Dual Citizenship

[tamisguy]

I've lived in chicago for a long time now. However, I was born and grew up in the phils. In fact, I even went to college for 2 yrs over there before getting my petition. I envy the mexican-americans coz they can have dual citizenships, while filipinos lose their phil citizenship when they become american citizens. Some say if ur a true filipino that u'll never turn ur back on ur country by becoming an american citizen. It's not a choice but a necessity, especially nowadays to get ur american citizenship. Although there are alot of perks into becoming an american citizen, there's also the drawbacks. In the phils, they have to hire the filipino's first and american citizen's get discriminated. Most filipinos help the economy by sending in dollars to our country. Wouldn't it be some token of appreciation by giving them a dual citizebship? It's just my opinion. What do you guys think? :D

[sinfoolpunk™]

When you next go home just get a pinoy passport..Instant dual nationality!!

[latepinoy93]

This is one of those threads that I wished I had started! A very good question indeed. Now, I live in Hong Kong and I have the same siutation. But believe me, if I had to make a choice, I will still go for the Philippine passport. The reason being... Ownership of land in the Philippines. Correct me if I'm wrong here but Foreign passport holders are not allowed to own any majority stake in anything. That in itself is a major drawback if you want to move back to the Philippines and begin a business. The other thing is that I am more concerned about the well-being of the nation as a whole if dual nationality will be recognized! Here, the HK goverment couldn't give an *** if you had 5 nationalities. But what the phil. gov't is doing is acutally very normal of other SEA countries. Giving dual nationalities out can be an immigration, leagal and litigative problem.

Negatively, TAX. The Philippine government will lose much needed tax if they are to continue losing tax revenue. Another issue is that it is not personally that cool to have 2 passports as you have to pay the Philippine Government Tax either in the Manila airport (Travel Tax of pesos 1620 in NAIA) prior to you return to your port of origin or in the consulate/embassy when you request for a travel tax exemption for your upcoming trip to the philippines and your tax due to,say, the federal govt. of the USA (Income tax or something!) So you basically have to pay the US gov't and then a percentage calculated around what you paid the US government.

Positively, a passport from a very recognized country such as the USA, the UK, Germany, Canada, Australia and so on gives you a lot of visa-free access in many various countries. If in the event you need to get a visa, it usually is not a problem. I mean, I went to get a tourist visa and when they saw a Philipino passport, they made me wait in another line! In fact, that is another form of discrimination in the sense that although it didn't really mean to be a discriminatory act, the fact that 90% of that line was composed of Philipinos. (I told them that I couldn't wait and ask them so see my invitation letter from the USA and voila! Got myself a 10-year multiple instead!

This takes time to do and if you really wanted to get 2 passports, you may need to keep it very, very, very hush-hush!... It is a bit difficult if someone finds out!

Hope this helps! ;)

[tamisguy]

You can actually get a philippine passport even though ur an american citizen?

I agree that 1 of the major drawbacks of not having dual citizenship is the land ownership. When I'm old and gray, I really would like to settle back home. I am not sure who's name our house in the province is under since both my parents are also amrican citizen. I wanna buy a piece of property. Unfortunately, if ur not a filipino citizen, you can't.

Thanks for ur point of view guys. :)

[bleemme]

You can buy propety if you are former philippino citizen. It is subject LIMTS AND RESTRICTIONS though. Contact the embassy for more details......

[latepinoy93]

Tamisguy: You CAN buy the land, you just have restrictions depending on your status, just like what bleemee said! Another thing that I thought of this morning is that you could legally own 2 passports, but ideally, the foreign passport that you're holding shouldn't mind if you had Dual Citizenship (i.e. United Kingdom passports), however, you just don't let the Philippine government know that you have another passport. It's like everytime you enter the Philippines, you use the Philippine passport then while travelling to other places you use the other passports.

However, I don't think that the US government allows having 2 passports.

[bleemme]

You CAN have 2 passport according to US Law, but the Philipino Law says no to this though. Always identify your self as an American at a US Port of Entry.

[Cali4Nia]

I'm confused :( What if you inherit properties in the future in Pinas and you're not a Filipino citizen anymore? Does that mean that you can't become an owner of those properties? Hmmm...any immigration lawyers here :D

I don't know much about this issue but all I know is that if you're a US citizen you don't get taxed at NAIA. But keep your posts coming....I'd like to know more:D

[bleemme]

You can INHERITE property! even though you are a US Citizen or Canadian Citizen or Aussi Citizen or what ever citezship you may have in Philippines.

[latepinoy93]

Blemmee: Well, that's exactly my question right there! Now I'm the confused one here... I was told to retain my Pinoy passport for the ownership of land from inheritance. Does it mean now that I don't have to have a Pinoy passport to do so?

The catch then here is what if there was a person that is a beneficiary of a piece of land handed down from his/her grandfather but has never seen or been into the Philippines? I understand that one of the reasons that you MUST be a Pinoy passport holder is so that you have the right to claim. Also, depending on the land, is there any restriction as to what sort of land one can inherit as a foreign passport holder?

As reand reform is still kicking in, what I understand is that argircultural land is restricted and is only available to Pinoys!

Say, let's seek some legal advice form the working Filipino page!

[bleemme]

Go to Philippine Embassy or Consulate they can help you out with exact details. From what I under stand you must be a "Balikbayan" or Former-Phil Citizen to have restrictions. What you are doing is illegal under Phil Law by Having 2 citizenship and 2 passport. Under US Law it is ok, but Phil no! Go to http://www.embassyonline.com for more details.

[latepinoy93]

Bleemme: I've always wanted to find this out anyways. In any case, I will go to the site you recommeneded.

But going back to the main topic... I don't really like the dual citizenship thingy... but there are time that you think about it.

[tamisguy]

The replies has been very interesting. But are most filipino's in favor of a dual citizenship or not? I know how nationalistic we are as people that's why. :)

[anna_netrebko]

What are the pros and cons of having dual citizenship?

In my case this would be Filipino-EU nationality. Been living in a European country long enough as to have the option to become a naturalized citizen but I'm still hesitating.

To the Pinoys out there with dual citiz, how does the 'other' country's government accept your dual citizenship? Did you have to swear an oath at a Phil embassy or something? Can you still buy real estate in the Philippines as easily as when you had solely Phil citiz?

Which passports do you use when traveling? Can you show your Phil passport when you enter the Phil and use the other when you go to, say, Japan or another developed country?

Any other relevant info you could post would be much appreciated! Hope to hear from you soon! :)

[topnotch97]

i think this thread should be useful in helping Filipino-Americans (naturalized, etc.) on how to obtain dual citizenship, especially on how to get citizenship. Rather confuse people what to do and not do. it looks like we are turning away even our own people, rather than helping them. so it should be clear that this thread should at least give information rather than scrutinize.

[redman]

i was born in the philippines, but ive been an american citizen since birth because my father was at the time, a citizen of the united states.

my wife is a different story. she was born and raised in the phils. she now has her 'greencard' and in a few years will renounce her filipino citizenship to become a u.s. citizen.

correct me if im wrong, but from what i understand if a filipino becomes "naturalized," he can no longer be a dual citizen of the philippines and his new country. like, after he renounces his filipino citizenship, he can no longer get it back. am i right or am i wrong?

thanks.

[grumpybear]

from http://www.gov.ph/faqs/dualcitizenship.asp,

What is Republic Act No. 9225?

Republic Act No. 9225 is an Act making the citizenship of Filipinos who acquire foreign citizenship permanent, amendin for the purpose Commonwealth Act No. 63.

RA 9225, which took effect on 17 September 2003, declares that former natural-born Filipino citizens who acquired foreign citizenship through naturalisation are deemed not to have lost their Philippine citizenship under conditions provided in the Act.

There former Filipinos can re-acquire/retain their Philippine citizenship by taking the oath of allegiance to the Republic of the Philippines.

[Krakista]

Check this out-->Dual Citizenship FAQs (http://www.immigration.gov.ph/dual_citizenship_info.php).

[seoulman]

Check this out-->Dual Citizenship FAQs (http://www.immigration.gov.ph/dual_citizenship_info.php).
The above link has been updated:

http://www.gov.ph/faqs/dualcitizenship.asp

[rangerman79_91]

When you renew your Philippine passport after you have become a US citizen, would the Philippine authorities know that you have already acquired a US or another country's citizenship?
What would make it impossible or difficult for a former FIlipino citizen from maintaining his Philippine passport after naturalization in another country?
As far as I know nobody reports the naturalization act to the Philippine authorities when a Filipino becomes a citizen of another country.

In the US, the government does not care if you are a citizen of another country as long as you abide by the laws of the US as a US citizen. If you have a US passport you are a US citizen regardless of what other nationalities you may have.

Any Philippine Department of Foreign Affairs or Bureau of Immigrations and Deportations experts here to shed some light on this?

[Hornsby]

What are the pros and cons of having dual citizenship?

In my case this would be Filipino-EU nationality. Been living in a European country long enough as to have the option to become a naturalized citizen but I'm still hesitating.

To the Pinoys out there with dual citiz, how does the 'other' country's government accept your dual citizenship? Did you have to swear an oath at a Phil embassy or something? Can you still buy real estate in the Philippines as easily as when you had solely Phil citiz?

Which passports do you use when traveling? Can you show your Phil passport when you enter the Phil and use the other when you go to, say, Japan or another developed country?

Any other relevant info you could post would be much appreciated! Hope to hear from you soon! :)

Hello. I have recently retained (or should I say re-acquired) my Filipino citizenship. I am legally a Fil-Oz.

The answer to your question will be - depends upon the country. In my case, Australia tolerates Dual Citizenship. Automatically, if I will have children they will be considered dual nationals. About the passport, I can either use my Filipino or OZ passport when returning to the Philippines. BUT I must use my OZ passport when returning to Australia. I can purchase a land in the Philippines BUT the contract of sale must stipulate that I am a Filipino citizen. About the tax, the Philippines and Australia signed an agreement in the 1970s-80s stating that if their citizens reside in one country, double taxation should be avoided.

Though may limitation ang dual citizenship - specifically if you're planning to run for a government office in the Philippines.

About the Oath taking - opo! Nanumpa ako sa harap ni Jose Rizal sa Philippine Consulate here in Sydney. It's taking the Oath of Allegiance.

Hope this helps. :D

[obiwan]

now here is a tricky one...

my children were born in the US so they are US citizens with passports, with the new dual citizenship thing, i also got them philippine passports....

now we are planning to migrate to australia which will allow us to get Australian passports in 2 years....

i have done some research and i cant find anything that says you can or cant have 3 passports/citizenships.....anyone have any info?

thanks

[homsik]

Dual citizens are cowards.

No balls.

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Attention Filipinos who carry dual citizenships.

Well according to Altair Dual Citizens are just that...

I tend to disagree.

I think we have a choice to make and we have to do it for the sake of our Family and love ones. I am proud of being a Filipino that is why a kept my citizenship and my culture whilst living in a Foreign Land.

If you have any comments on the Dual Citizenship please speak out otherwise the only loud opinions are those of the unwanted kind like Altair's.

[obiwan]

After reading all the migration threads and seeing comments from those who have left and those who want to leave the Phil. Majority of the time, the reason is for a better future for your KIDS.

I would like to ask:

Assuming your children were already naturalized DUAL-CITIZENS (US, Australia, Canada, NZ, UK etc.) would you still choose to live abroad or would you move back to the Philippines, since your children still have the opportunity now to work in their second country if they choose to when they are older?


looking forward to hearing your replies. thanks!

[ski_JeRZe]

I'm currently 33 weeks pregnant, and I've been living in the US for almost 8 years. My hubby was Polish immigrant, but now a US citizen. My citizenship is under process ( I've been eligible to apply for 4 yrs already, but I was damn too lazy to fill up those forms).

Anyway, my hubby and I would not move back to the Philippines, nor to Poland to raise our child (or children in the future). We are very comfortable here and very well adjusted. My parents, my brother and my mom's family are here. My hubby's 2 siblings are here. Hubby's parents just went back to Poland for early retirement.

[Dunedain]

If my kid (or when me and my wife decides to make more), I would encourage them to visit Pinas to see family members but not to live in Pinas.

Simply ask yourself: Is career opportunity as well as equal opportunity available or protected by law in Pinas? Never was, never has been, never will be. It's always been kamag-anak system.

[Timmy777]

My kids would definitely have a "say" on this. I would let them choose as to what preference they have and what reasons would they have.

Kasi for now, it's basically me and my wife calling the shots. So going back to the question......the answer will depend on how my kids will cope.

As for me, if things are better there, I would rather not go back.

Like what Dunedain stated.....only to VISIT, not to LIVE......again. :)

[trukr]

I have dual citizenship for the kids and me. We'll be living in pinas by July. We're just waiting for their school year to end here in vancouver.

[bucks 'n bogut]

Like what Dunedain stated.....only to VISIT, not to LIVE......again. :)

totoo.. although nakaka miss dating mga kaibigan, relatives and a certain happiness nowhere to be found but only sa pinas

[Timmy777]

totoo.. although nakaka miss dating mga kaibigan, relatives and a certain happiness nowhere to be found but only sa pinas

I have to agree with you on that Bucks.....there are times indeed when you pass by places which you somehow feel, played a "big" part in your life. Places such as that of our school days, places where you dated your lifetime partner, etc. But then again, I told myself......hindi ako aasenso sa memories....masakit man bitawan pero kelangan. Grabe noh......who ever came up with the word "reminiscing".....tsk.

And then of course, there is your family, most especially our parents. Kung nandun na sila at kasama mo, then "case-closed" kung baga, pero if they decide to stick it our here since retired na sila, then that's the only tie that will keep you coming back.

[Dunedain]

totoo.. although nakaka miss dating mga kaibigan, relatives and a certain happiness nowhere to be found but only sa pinas

True. I miss some of my old buddies back in Pinas. But I also dreamed of being independent. To become self-reliant. I'm pretty sure our parents did the same thing. With that idea, wouldn't any parent be proud what their own child will do to make the life of their own child (or children) better? I'm pretty sure as well that any parent will.

Besides, everyone still keeps in touch once in a while. There's e-mail, messengers, etc.

[MissDaisy]

I'm a US citizen and I'm thinking of applying for dual citizenship. However, I'm having second thoughts.

I know that the main advantages, among others, are: the right to vote and run for public office, and the right to own property (eg land without size restriction).

The reason why I'm having second thoughts is the political risk in the Philippines -- i.e., the ability of the politicians and the lawmakers to change the law(s). I realize that the rules of the game can be altered easily, and we all know what politicians are like in the Philippines.

How about you? What are your thoughts? What would you do if you had the choice of pursuing dual citizenship? Will you go for it? If yes, why? If not, why not?

[trukr]

Did not hesitate...got it for the kids and I. Your right, we all know what the politicians in the philippines are like...how can you help to change that if your not a citizen?

[Zardoz]

I'm considering dual citizenship but I haven't decided yet. I know land ownership is not an advantage for me since I prefer owning a condo over a house and lot. As for the right to vote, I'm not sure that's a real benefit since Philippine politics is very dirty. I don't think they really count the votes there. For some reason, I feel unsafe becoming a citizen of the Philippines and I feel more secure being a 100% US citizen. But who knows....... Bottom line, I'm undecided.

[Clover_Gurrll]

How will this work if one is a naturalized American (which means one has renounced citizenship of his/her birth country)? What about taxes? As a citizen of the Philippines, does this mean that I am also required to file and pay taxes?

[Zardoz]

^ You'll only pay Philippine taxes on Philippine-sourced income. There's no double taxation.

Here's a link to "Frequently Asked Questions" on dual citizenship.


http://www.philippineconsulate-sf.org/dualcitizenship_faq.htm

[Clover_Gurrll]

Thanks Zardoz. Its interesting that as a dual citizen; one cannot hold or run for a public office unless one renounces the foreign citizenship that he/she acquired:

"Run for public office, provided that at the time of filing of his/her certificate of candidacy, the person shall make a personal and sworn renunciation of foreign citizenship, and meet the residency requirement for holding elective position.

Be appointed to a public office, provided that the person renounces his allegiance to other country.

This really is a waste of time.

[Victoro]

I've talked to some Fil-Ams who were reluctant in getting their dual citizenships. They said Philippines politics flip flops a lot. What if they decide to tax you in the future? During Marcos era, they taxed nurses who went abroad to work. Their tax wasn't a flat tax, they were percentage-based tax.

If you're planning to be an active part of the filipino community such as setting up a business, owning land, or voting then get one.

[Fortes in Fide]

I know my children would definitely choose to stay in the US. I can't blame them. They grew up in the US and it is the one they've learned to love. If I have to decide for them, I would still come up with the same decision. We have to remember why we left the Philippines in the first place. Do we really want to subject our children to relative danger, lack of job opportunities and unequal application of basic human rights, lack of freedom and respect of the law, age and social class discrimination and suffer a similar life we used to have while in the Philippines?
For myself, I would go back to the Philippines- not because it is a better place, but because I can do a lot better over there to help my fellow Filipinos with all the skills and experience I have gained in 28 years living and working in the US.

I can always go back to the US if I want to.

[rave81]

I'm a US citizen and I'm thinking of applying for dual citizenship. However, I'm having second thoughts.

I know that the main advantages, among others, are: the right to vote and run for public office, and the right to own property (eg land without size restriction).

The reason why I'm having second thoughts is the political risk in the Philippines -- i.e., the ability of the politicians and the lawmakers to change the law(s). I realize that the rules of the game can be altered easily, and we all know what politicians are like in the Philippines.

How about you? What are your thoughts? What would you do if you had the choice of pursuing dual citizenship? Will you go for it? If yes, why? If not, why not?

Don't bother getting a Filipino Citizen, because in my point of view its useless. Its not good Idea to buy properties or invest in Philippines, since the political status of its country is not stable. Be glad with your American Citizen, like me I'm an Australian I have more benefits having this one compare to filipino citizenship that is why i renounce my filo citizenship. I can travel anywhere without any hassle and if anything happens to me in a particular country, my government will give me an instant help. Not like if you are a filo citizenship well you need to wait for a long time or most probably they will just ignore you.

[rave81]

I'm just wondering if im going to visit Philippines, much fee do I need to pay for tourist visa?

[SuPeR_MaN]

I'm just wondering if im going to visit Philippines, much fee do I need to pay for tourist visa?

rave81,

You don't have to pay any visa fee if you're going to visit for 21 days. You will be issued a visa on arrival. You only have to pay if you plan to extend your stay later on.

[bucks 'n bogut]

okay na sa akin ang magbalikbayan lang at maranasan uli ang buhay pinoy....reconnection.

but to vote and to run for a public office? no way! kay ano pa? para makipaglokohan uli sa sistemang nagtulak sa ating lahat para mangibang bayan?

kumakailan lang ay sinunog yung COMELEC office and look at the violence, kailangan pa bang pag-isipan yon?

buying properties is only worthwhile if for some reason there's a need to do it and not only to fulfill an old dream of owning a piece of room sa global city:D


importante is pinoy ka pa rin sa puso at patuloy kang nakakatutulong sa mga dapat mong tulungan

[Attila]

I'm also thinking about getting dual citizenship status but I need more time before I'll make a decision. I'll just wait and see for now.

I am still distrustful of the Philippine government and it's ability to change the rules of the game on a whim. Right now, they're trying to entice former Philippine citizens to come back home. But who knows what will happen after these people have become captives in their former homeland. For some reason, it brings up images of being "kidnapped for ransom."

I guess it's better to be late (in making a decision) than be sorry forever.

[red_track]

***** for retirement nalang.

[ozcity]

in the end uuwi at uuwi pa rin kayo sa pinas... having a dual citizenship is definitely a must..wag na lang tayo mag-pa apekto or umasa sa gobyerno ng pinas dahil in our lifetime wala na talaga pag-asa yung gobyerno natin..

still have 21 months to go para sa dual citizenship namin..then after that uwi na kami ng pinas..*okay*

masarap pa din manirahan sa sariling bayan..*okay*


ayoko yatang tumanda sa home for the aged..:lol: :lol:

[lechon x]

I've talked to some Fil-Ams who were reluctant in getting their dual citizenships. They said Philippines politics flip flops a lot. What if they decide to tax you in the future? During Marcos era, they taxed nurses who went abroad to work. Their tax wasn't a flat tax, they were percentage-based tax.

If you're planning to be an active part of the filipino community such as setting up a business, owning land, or voting then get one.

if you're a filipino citizen and working abroad, of course may tax yon. Pag nagpa renew ka ng passport, doon ka yata hihingian ng tax based on your income.

that's the same thing sa US. If you're a US cit. tapos nag wo-work ka overseas, the income is taxable, May rules yan eh but Im not sure kung papaano.

Pwede bang bomoto pag dual ka?

[Neroli]

Keep this up! interesting thread!!...

[rave81]

if you're a filipino citizen and working abroad, of course may tax yon. Pag nagpa renew ka ng passport, doon ka yata hihingian ng tax based on your income.

that's the same thing sa US. If you're a US cit. tapos nag wo-work ka overseas, the income is taxable, May rules yan eh but Im not sure kung papaano.

Pwede bang bomoto pag dual ka?

Get a tax credit so that you don't pay any tax to the other country. Let say I'm an Aussie and worked in Canada or UK; all I need to do is ask for tax credit from Canada or UK and then give it to Tax office in Australia so that I don't need to pay tax to them.

[rave81]

I'm also thinking about getting dual citizenship status but I need more time before I'll make a decision. I'll just wait and see for now.

I am still distrustful of the Philippine government and it's ability to change the rules of the game on a whim. Right now, they're trying to entice former Philippine citizens to come back home. But who knows what will happen after these people have become captives in their former homeland. For some reason, it brings up images of being "kidnapped for ransom."

I guess it's better to be late (in making a decision) than be sorry forever.

There are disadvantages when you have dual citizenship with Philippines. If you went to Philippines and something happen to you; your western country won't help you or won't responsible to you.

I remembered when my mum was planning to apply for Philippine citizenship and the Australia immigration told her that "if you went to Philippines and bad things happened to you or you get sick, Australia will not help you since you hold Philippines citizenship; Philippines will be responsible to you not Australia".

Its better if you have dual western citizenship not one western citizenship and the other is philippine citizenship.

If you teach you're children to respect and show them how to take care and not to abandon your parents that will be good, but in reality living in western country cost you everything. Its okay to me if I am old already and live in a nursing home; atleast they will look after you and your health and you won't be a burden to your sons or daugther.

[Yska]

mayroon po bang privilege para sa mga former Filipino citizens? ex: "No visa required when traveling to the Philippines" (i mean, when you wish to stay longer than they'll give at the port?)

[rave81]

much how is the visa if you exceed the 27 days visit?

[knn]

I migrated to Australia during my teen years and I hated the first year of my life there because I was lonely..I miss the Philippines (the fun, gimmicks and friends).

But eventually and unconsciously, I was missing Australia during my vacay in the Philippines and wanted to hurry back "home" to Australia.

I have now settled back here in Pinas because my hubby is a Pinoy business owner.

We will eventually resettle back in Australia for my children's sake.....and yes I still call Australia home. Philippines will always be my home too!

[darkshark]

knn...do i know you? :)

[the7devil7]

Dual citizenship ( example : US and Pilipino ) is risky business.

When you take the Oath of US citizenship to the USA, you automatically by US law renounced your pilipino citizenship. You swear that you will be faithful & serve one country only which is the USA . Remember how hard it is to apply & wait to come to America ? Becaming a naturalized us citizen is what all immigrant pilipinos dream to achieve in the most free, democratic & rich country in the world.

Why take the risk of becoming a Pilipino citizen again ? There could be some complicated matters involving dual citizenship that Philippine government has not fully explained . It could jeorpadize your US Citizenship. US citizenship is more important than having a Philippine passport again specially when you are still young and working in America. I advise everyone just to have one citizenship at a time, that is US Citizenship. ( or whatever country you are located )
I also advise everyone that the best time to reconsider becoming a pilipino citizen again is when you are nearing close to your retirement age. When you have enough money save to bring back with your in the Philippines. When you bring all the dollars with you, you will live like King or Queen because the value of the dollar is greater than the pesos.

Remember as a natural born Pilipino, you can always return home on your retirement years or old age, renounced your current citzenship , become a Pilipino again & finally live there until your death.

[the7devil7]

Don't bother getting a Filipino Citizen, because in my point of view its useless. Its not good Idea to buy properties or invest in Philippines, since the political status of its country is not stable. Be glad with your American Citizen, like me I'm an Australian I have more benefits having this one compare to filipino citizenship that is why i renounce my filo citizenship. I can travel anywhere without any hassle and if anything happens to me in a particular country, my government will give me an instant help. Not like if you are a filo citizenship well you need to wait for a long time or most probably they will just ignore you.

Well said......I totally agree with you......*okay*

[SuPeR_MaN]

Dual citizenship ( example : US and Pilipino ) is risky business.

When you take the Oath of US citizenship to the USA, you automatically by US law renounced your pilipino citizenship. You swear that you will be faithful & serve one country only which is the USA . Remember how hard it is to apply & wait to come to America ? Becaming a naturalized us citizen is what all immigrant pilipinos dream to achieve in the most free, democratic & rich country in the world.

Why take the risk of becoming a Pilipino citizen again ? There could be some complicated matters involving dual citizenship that Philippine government has not fully explained . It could jeorpadize your US Citizenship. US citizenship is more important than having a Philippine passport again specially when you are still young and working in America. I advise everyone just to have one citizenship at a time, that is US Citizenship. ( or whatever country you are located )
I also advise everyone that the best time to reconsider becoming a pilipino citizen again is when you are nearing close to your retirement age. When you have enough money save to bring back with your in the Philippines. When you bring all the dollars with you, you will live like King or Queen because the value of the dollar is greater than the pesos.

Remember as a natural born Pilipino, you can always return home on your retirement years or old age, renounced your current citzenship , become a Pilipino again & finally live there until your death.


dude, both the Philippines and the US have dual-citizenships. US citizenship won't contradict with another citizenship as long as you don't serve as a combatant for a country classified by the US government as an enemy state (Ex. Cuba, North Korea, Sudan, etc.) If that's the case, I'll agree with you to stick with one's US citizenship.

for my case, even if I get a US citizenship soon, I would probably reclaim my Filipino citizenship immediately as it is a heritage for me, and I am proud of my brown roots. Well, maybe it's just me. And it's good to visit a place where you know that you are protected by two embassies.

[Dunedain]

if you're a filipino citizen and working abroad, of course may tax yon. Pag nagpa renew ka ng passport, doon ka yata hihingian ng tax based on your income.

Nope. Renewed my passport back in 2004 and Pinas consul didn't tell me to file for Pinas tax. Why should I pay Pinas taxes when I am not to benefit from it? Ang lumalabas n'yan ay nakikinabang lang ang Pinas.

[neneodin]

Very interesting ang usapan dito!!!

German citizen ako kaya nagbabalak din akong magdual citizenship pero hindi ko alam pa ang adavantage and disad nito.Sige post pa kayo para makalakap ako ng info.

[the7devil7]

dude, both the Philippines and the US have dual-citizenships. US citizenship won't contradict with another citizenship as long as you don't serve as a combatant for a country classified by the US government as an enemy state (Ex. Cuba, North Korea, Sudan, etc.) If that's the case, I'll agree with you to stick with one's US citizenship.

for my case, even if I get a US citizenship soon, I would probably reclaim my Filipino citizenship immediately as it is a heritage for me, and I am proud of my brown roots. Well, maybe it's just me. And it's good to visit a place where you know that you are protected by two embassies.

Why bother applying for US citizenship if you want to reclaim your Filipino citizenship immediately ?

Here's the big advantage of having a US passport VS Filipino passport. If you enter any US international airport or US border and you carry a US passport, they let you pass without any question ask. This is one big advantage of being a US citizen. BUT if you carry a Philippine passport, they will check all your documentations & ask you many questions before they let you in.

You came to America to have a better life, good job, earn good money and this become your new home. This opportunities you are now enjoying is not available to you in the Philippines.

On the other hand, Philippines is still your home country, it is normal to feel homesick & loyal to your roots. You can always go back for vacation & visit your relatives. Just like I said in my other post, you can still go back permanently when you retired working in USA.

But you know what ? Most pilipinos who lived for so many years in USA have already adopted the American culture & way of life, many of them are staying for good in America. They dont want to uproot their American born children mostly 2nd & 3rd & 4th generations filipino americans .

[SuPeR_MaN]

Why bother applying for US citizenship if you want to reclaim your Filipino citizenship immediately ?


Why not? Like I said, maybe it's just me, we have different views and opinions on different things. It's just my way of being grateful to the country where I was born. Yes, living in the Philippines is difficult these days that I, myself is working overseas. But I guess I haven't forgotten my ties where most of my friends and my family are right now.

[the7devil7]

Why not? Like I said, maybe it's just me, we have different views and opinions on different things. It's just my way of being grateful to the country where I was born. Yes, living in the Philippines is difficult these days that I, myself is working overseas. But I guess I haven't forgotten my ties where most of my friends and my family are right now.

There is nothing wrong with having dual citizenship. It is strictly a personal choice. I understood what you wrote & I respect your point of view . Good exchange of dialog here. Good luck to you .