San Beda Red Lions VS Jose Rizal Bombers

[ZzzzzzzZZZ0909]

San Beda will win by 15+ pts.

[stone collector]

San Beda will win by 15+ pts.


all filipino team JRU against SBC team with foreign player puwede matalo? kasi nakakahiya kapag natalo kayo ng JRU sayang ang foreign player nyo :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

advantage pa rin kami kahit saang angle*okay*

[ZzzzzzzZZZ0909]

all filipino team JRU against SBC team with foreign player puwede matalo? kasi nakakahiya kapag natalo kayo ng JRU sayang ang foreign player nyo

advantage pa rin kami kahit saang angle*okay*


Si Bulangis saang planeta ba galing yun?:rotflmao: :rotflmao:

[stone collector]

Si Bulangis saang planeta ba galing yun?:rotflmao: :rotflmao:


ikaw saang planeta ka galing!!! profile name mo lang ALIEN na ang dating eh!!

saka foul iyan sinabi mo kung SBC ka nga??? kung magsalita ako ng
di maganda sa star player nyo (ekwe) ok ka sa iyo:grrr:

[stone collector]

Si Bulangis saang planeta ba galing yun?:rotflmao: :rotflmao:


ikaw saang planeta ka galing!!! profile name mo lang ALIEN na ang dating eh!!

saka foul iyan sinabi mo kung SBC ka nga??? kung magsalita ako ng
di maganda sa star player nyo (ekwe) ok kaya sa iyo:grrr:

[pgma]

San Beda will win by 15+ pts.


naku, maraming mag r react dito.

[mabuhayrizal]

alam nyo, grabe talaga ang crab mentality sa bansa natin kaya di tyo umuunlad eh! Ekwe kayo ng Ekwe eh hindi naman yan PINOY. magisip isip nga kyo.

Social problem na to eh! kahit sa ibang liga, UAAP..halabira ayan na nag"iimport" narin sila ng mga players. Paano na yung mga kababayan natin na yun iba inaasahan din basketball sila uunlad?!

Kaya para sakin, mas gugustuhin ko pa magchampion (shempre andun na JRU) kung hindi kami, kahit sino team jan except un may import tulad ng san beda at perpetual.

Tignan nyo, JRU..palakas ng palakas kahit WALANG IMPORT..o LETRAN, nagsimula sa wala pero malakas kahit WLANG IMPORT.. baste..big line up pero WALA IMPORT..

FOR ONCE MAG-ISIP ISIP NAMAN KAYO.. PINOY KA BA?!

[DonLabaro]

^I dont think San Beda can win by 15pts.. JRU is a strong team... but just to be fair with the red lion's, malakas naman ang team namin kahit wala si Ekwe... nangaling na mismo yan kay Louie Alas yan.. Nanalo narin kame even with out Sam Ekwe in our game against Mapua... Siguro nga malaking tulong si Ekwe sa amin but lets give justice to Pong Escobal, Yousif Aljamal, and Ogie Menor... Mga Filipino rin yan... konting respeto naman sa kanila...tinging niyo ba magchachampion kame last year kung wala isa sa tatlong Pinoy na player na sinabi ko?

Too much "idealsim" can kill you.. and its better to be "realistic" at times.. and to emphasize being realistic, even with Ekwe in the team the mighty Red Lion's wont stand a chance w/out Pong Escobal or Yousif Aljamal...

Mananalo pa kame sa inyo kahit wala si Ekwe.. pero pag tinangal mo si Pong Escobal or Yousif Aljamal, bk tambakan niyo kame.

If San Beda does win please refrain from thinking dahil may import lang kame... when the Letran Knights defeated us, they came into the game with one thing in mind and that is to win.. it didnt matter to them if we have Sam Ekwek or even if Shaq was playing for us.. It was a game they wanted to win despite the odds of having an opponent with a strong all Filipino line up and an import to back em up.. (according to Alas once again)

Tignan niyo sa UAAP.. Ateneo and DLSU have two imports but have you heard UE complain that these two teams have foreign players? Hindi... they come to every game with the purpose of winning no matter what odds they face.. and look where UE is standing and where DLSU and ADMU are?

JRU, I respect your school and i admire your basketball team... I also think your head coach is far better compared to our coach...
We Bedans may be rowdy or arrogant at times, but most of us respect and recognize the talent of the JRU Bombers this season.

PAX

[mongol2]

all filipino team JRU against SBC team with foreign player puwede matalo? kasi nakakahiya kapag natalo kayo ng JRU sayang ang foreign player nyo :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

advantage pa rin kami kahit saang angle*okay*

mabuhayrizal, the first peson, who you should ask "PINOY KA BA?!" is your fellow rizalian.

san beda winning by 15 points.? i don't think so. it'll be a close fight.


ANIMO SAN BEDA!

[PulangBedista]

alam nyo, grabe talaga ang crab mentality sa bansa natin kaya di tyo umuunlad eh! Ekwe kayo ng Ekwe eh hindi naman yan PINOY. magisip isip nga kyo.

Social problem na to eh! kahit sa ibang liga, UAAP..halabira ayan na nag"iimport" narin sila ng mga players. Paano na yung mga kababayan natin na yun iba inaasahan din basketball sila uunlad?!

Kaya para sakin, mas gugustuhin ko pa magchampion (shempre andun na JRU) kung hindi kami, kahit sino team jan except un may import tulad ng san beda at perpetual.

Tignan nyo, JRU..palakas ng palakas kahit WALANG IMPORT..o LETRAN, nagsimula sa wala pero malakas kahit WLANG IMPORT.. baste..big line up pero WALA IMPORT..

FOR ONCE MAG-ISIP ISIP NAMAN KAYO.. PINOY KA BA?!


hay naku...tsk tsk. eto talaga pinoy..nag-backfire na sa kanya *** "crab mentality" quote nya.

tama c donlabaro brad..malakas ang team namen kahit ibangko pa c ekwe.

peace tayo, gusto ko rin team mo lalo ng natalo nila ang letran. underdog na malakas. *okay*

______________
STAND ALONE
ANIMO SAN BEDA

[stone collector]

^I dont think San Beda can win by 15pts.. JRU is a strong team... but just to be fair with the red lion's, malakas naman ang team namin kahit wala si Ekwe... nangaling na mismo yan kay Louie Alas yan.. Nanalo narin kame even with out Sam Ekwe in our game against Mapua... Siguro nga malaking tulong si Ekwe sa amin but lets give justice to Pong Escobal, Yousif Aljamal, and Ogie Menor... Mga Filipino rin yan... konting respeto naman sa kanila...tinging niyo ba magchachampion kame last year kung wala isa sa tatlong Pinoy na player na sinabi ko?

Too much "idealsim" can kill you.. and its better to be "realistic" at times.. and to emphasize being realistic, even with Ekwe in the team the mighty Red Lion's wont stand a chance w/out Pong Escobal or Yousif Aljamal...

Mananalo pa kame sa inyo kahit wala si Ekwe.. pero pag tinangal mo si Pong Escobal or Yousif Aljamal, bk tambakan niyo kame.

If San Beda does win please refrain from thinking dahil may import lang kame... when the Letran Knights defeated us, they came into the game with one thing in mind and that is to win.. it didnt matter to them if we have Sam Ekwek or even if Shaq was playing for us.. It was a game they wanted to win despite the odds of having an opponent with a strong all Filipino line up and an import to back em up.. (according to Alas once again)

Tignan niyo sa UAAP.. Ateneo and DLSU have two imports but have you heard UE complain that these two teams have foreign players? Hindi... they come to every game with the purpose of winning no matter what odds they face.. and look where UE is standing and where DLSU and ADMU are?

JRU, I respect your school and i admire your basketball team... I also think your head coach is far better compared to our coach...
We Bedans may be rowdy or arrogant at times, but most of us respect and recognize the talent of the JRU Bombers this season.

PAX


Don Labaro you got my respect!!!*okay*

pero kawawa talaga ang mga pinoy player na dreaming
to be in your team pero di nila maipakita ang galing nila
at di nakuha kasi nasapawan na ng foreign player:rotflmao:

sayang talaga slot na para sa pinoy na napunta pa
sa iba.:mecry:

malakas talaga ang team nyo.. aljamal,escobal,marcelo,menor
i really admire this guys siyempre special si aljamal he..he...
love ko iyan:love:

sana lang magkaroon ng "REINFORCE NCAA"
para doon maglaro ang mga foreign player na iyan.

basta yung ALL FILIPINO NCAA iba!!! :rotflmao:

[DonLabaro]

ako man, bedista... sa tutuo lang natuwa ako na hindi pwede mag MVP sj Sam this year kasi free for all na sa mga pinoy players... which i think is being battled out by Marvin Hayes, RJ Jazul, and Yousif Aljamal...

last year dissapointed ako... na kahit nag mvp si sam
gusto ko mag MVP nun si Aljamal
and I think majority if not most Bedans wanted him to win..

yeah.. I think atleast the NCAA should reserve the MVP award to a local player... tingin ko lang iyon ha..

[mabuhayrizal]

To DonLabaro & PulangBedista : ako rin, you got not only my respect pero paghanga. I'm glad you guys are open minded about this issue. My only concern is yung mga kababayan natin na kawawa naman.. Kahit sa anong field napansin ko lately basta pag foreigner, hala... eto tayong mga pinoy nagpapakatanga! Kahit nga pag artista dba what more ngayon sa mga players natin.

Yun lang talaga concern ko..and i'm sure that there are a LOT of pinoys out there who share the same sentiments... ako nga hindi player ganito na naffeel ko, what more yung mga student athletes natin dito sa pinas?

[abcdboy]

To DonLabaro & PulangBedista : ako rin, you got not only my respect pero paghanga. I'm glad you guys are open minded about this issue. My only concern is yung mga kababayan natin na kawawa naman.. Kahit sa anong field napansin ko lately basta pag foreigner, hala... eto tayong mga pinoy nagpapakatanga! Kahit nga pag artista dba what more ngayon sa mga players natin.

Yun lang talaga concern ko..and i'm sure that there are a LOT of pinoys out there who share the same sentiments... ako nga hindi player ganito na naffeel ko, what more yung mga student athletes natin dito sa pinas?

Mas kawawa pinoy kung ganyan logic mo. Pano tayo magiging competitive, kapag nakakita tayo ng 7 footer galing ibang bansa sasabihin mo na lang... "AY FOREIGNER KAWAWA NAMAN PINOY NASASAPAWAN":bop: :bop:

Dami talagang immature na pinoy. Pero ok lang tingin ko naman yung coaching staff niyo di ganyan pagiisip lam ko once they face the red lions gusto lang nila manalo.

Nako dalawang taon na tong issue na to ah, kailan kaya matatapos toh.

[pancham]

Oca's explanation is a very good way of how globalization works. It increases the level of competitiveness.

Tama si Oca when ekwe came to play for san beda, the mis-match is very obvious. Matangkad, malaki ang bulas so hirap ang iba. Nabigla kasi eh. Pero after a year hindi na ganoon kalaki ang gap. People like Sena, De Leon and others can match up quite well. We look into the problem and find a solution to that problem.

It is the same in the professional league and the international scene. Kailangan maintindihan natin saan ba nanggagaling ang mga nagiging professional level? Di ba sa collegiate ranks. Sa madaling salita if we are raising the bar on the local scene this early and exposing our players to a higher degree of competition we are preparing them when they jump into the professional level. Eventually sila din ang lalaro for the national team.

Law of opportunity cost. We have to give up some to gain some. In this case we gave up a seat for a local player but in the long run it's not only san beda who benefited but the entire league as a whole. In this case the benefit of the whole can be counted. Dito na papasok ang galing ng mga coaches kung papaano nila ituturo sa kanilang mga players kung papaano lulusot sa problema.

Kudos all. Animo San beda

[ZzzzzzzZZZ0909]

^but they will never understand that considering that they are from JRU.

[pancham]

well at least i tried

[stone collector]

siyempre wala ng magagawa pa nandito na sila sa pinas!!
at wala pa ring rule tungkol sa foreign player.
sorry na lang si pinoy player na dreaming maging basketball star
na di nabigyan ng break dahil sa import.

ikaw matatawag mo bang "FAIR" iyong

ALL FILIPINO TEAM vs. TEAM w/ IMPORT:grrr:

[validus]

siyempre wala ng magagawa pa nandito na sila sa pinas!!
at wala pa ring rule tungkol sa foreign player.
sorry na lang si pinoy player na dreaming maging basketball star
na di nabigyan ng break dahil sa import.

ikaw matatawag mo bang "FAIR" iyong

ALL FILIPINO TEAM vs. TEAM w/ IMPORT:grrr:


huwag naman sana tayong maging hipokrito. kung sa inyo naman napunta si ekwe baka mabalisawsaw kayo sa tuwa. ilan bang slot ang naubos ni ekwe sa koponan ng san beda at parang andaming pinoy ang nakawawa?

isipin nyo nalang na pagsubok si ekwe sa mga pinoy para tumaas ang antas at kalidad ng laro nila. sa tingin ko naman natsetsek nila si ekwe.

sana yung hinanakit nyo eh hindi yung tinatawag na "sour-graping". kasi yun ang tunay na "crab mentality". mahirap ang ganyan. iba ang nationalism sa pagiging huwad.

[ZzzzzzzZZZ0909]

siyempre wala ng magagawa pa nandito na sila sa pinas!!
at wala pa ring rule tungkol sa foreign player.
sorry na lang si pinoy player na dreaming maging basketball star
na di nabigyan ng break dahil sa import.

ikaw matatawag mo bang "FAIR" iyong

ALL FILIPINO TEAM vs. TEAM w/ IMPORT:grrr:

Alam niyo naman I.Q. niyan. Jru nga siya eh. Wag niyo na i-explain.

[stone collector]

huwag naman sana tayong maging hipokrito. kung sa inyo naman napunta si ekwe baka mabalisawsaw kayo sa tuwa. ilan bang slot ang naubos ni ekwe sa koponan ng san beda at parang andaming pinoy ang nakawawa?

isipin nyo nalang na pagsubok si ekwe sa mga pinoy para tumaas ang antas at kalidad ng laro nila. sa tingin ko naman natsetsek nila si ekwe.

sana yung hinanakit nyo eh hindi yung tinatawag na "sour-graping". kasi yun ang tunay na "crab mentality". mahirap ang ganyan. iba ang nationalism sa pagiging huwad.


hindi sa pagiging hipokrito yun!! fairness ang pinaguusapan!!!
kawawa talaga ang ibang trying hard pinoy basketball player na gusto din umasenso at basketball lang ang alam nilang gawin.:confused:

though may point ka na tumaas nga ang antas at kalidad ng laro ng pinoy dahil sa foreign player na dapat lang kasi mas lumalakas ang pinoy spirit lalo na kung may gustong umalipin he..he.. (tama ba yun??) . *okay*

[motuphils]

Bedan brothers and sisters, leave the critics be. opinyon nila yan. Kung ang gusto nilang thinking is "kawawa naman kami kasi me import ang kabila", then that will be to their disadvantage. hindi na sila uunlad. Isipin mo, me kinkaharap kang malaking paghamon sa kakayahan mo, tapos ang gagawin mo lang eh mag-cocomplain at kakaawaan ang sarili?

Letran, also an all-Filipino team defeated us by a point. Hindi ba kayo nanood ng laban na yan? Yung malalaking mama nila dun, tinirahan lang sa labas si Sam. Kaya naman di ba?

Napakasarap basahin ng poste ni oca1 sa kabilang thread about how globalization works. If you don't shape up, yari ka kasi mapag-iiwanan ka ng panahon.

Alam ko kaya hindi umaasenso ang Pinoy kasi hindi tayo marunong mag-adjust sa mga pagbabago.

Magandang laban ang SBC vs JRU. JRU has peaked at the right time this Season. They have big men who can match our biggies, even Sam Ekwe. Despite the arguments between Bedans and Bchemist, I have become awed with the big improvement of the JRU team.

Tama na yang crab mentality at nakatutulig na bangayan. Hindi din naman magbabago ang rules ng NCAA. Allowed pa rin ang isang foreign player na maglaro para sa team provided estudyante sya talaga.

Kung totoong nationalist kayo, hindi nyo babayaang mahuli ang bansa sa pag-usad by adopting crab mentality.

ANIMO SAN BEDA!!!

[motuphils]

[QUOTE=stone collector;21056451]
at underdog ng ibang tryhard pinoy na gusto din umasenso
at basketball lang ang alam nilang gawin.:confused:

QUOTE]

yun ang problema ms. stone collector. Basketball lang ang alam nilang gawin sa buhay nila. Kung napanood mo ang Coach Carter sa HBO, malalaman mo ang napakagandang konsepto ng isang STUDENT ATHLETE.

You cant play basketball forever, so it pays to do well with your studies. Ang daming magagaling na players dyan at walang katiyakan ang future mo sa pagbabasketball. So dapat hinahasa mo din ang utak mo para makasabay ka sa mga pagbabagong dadating sa buhay mo (tulad ng hinfi pagkakaron ng PBA career).

Now, if a team/player cannot accept challenges that come their way (like Ekwe or Buenafe sa jrs) and be able to adjust to it, sayang.

[deltoid]

Kung ano ang wala ka, yun ang kaiinggitan mo. Palibhasa kasi walang gustong mag-aral na foreigners sa eskwelahan ninyo. Siyempre, kung ano yung wala ka, maiinggit ka kasi nga wala ka nun. :lol:

Ang usapan dito is college basketball. Hindi mo masasabi na unfair kung ganito ang labanan - Team with Import vs Team w/out Import. The important thing is kung ang players na nasa roster ng eskwelahan ninyo ay eligible students at hindi "ineligible."
Eto talaga ang unfair - Team with "ineligible students" vs Team with eligible students.

Kung may resources ang school or team namin dba, why not put it to good use? Wala naman din kaming magagawa kung wala kayong eligible students from another country. That's not our problem kung wala kayo nun.

A good example would be Japeth Aguilar. I believe he is now in the States playing college basketball. Gusto nyo ba na hindi siya makapaglaro or i-discriminate siya dahil hindi siya "Kano?" Hindi naman yata tama yun.

As I've said, huwag na kasi pag-initan or kainggitan ang wala ka. Make do with what you have. Kung wala kayo nun, problema nyo na yun. :naughty:

[mighty_lion]

Student-athlete. The word student comes first before athlete. sabi nga ni coach carter. Obserbahan nyo na lang yong mga iniinterviewing players sa tv. The way sila magsalita at sumagot sa tanong represents the school they have. Aanhin mo ang basketball dynasty kung ang player mo na man basketball lang ang alam sa buhay.

We do value the meaning of student-athlete. Kahit ala Shaq or KG caliber pa na foreign player yan kung hindi naman interesado mag-aral, for sure goodbye ka sa RL. This is the very reason kung bakit hindi namin tinitingnan ang player as foreigner, fil-for or pure pinoy. Me naging kaklase akong chinise citizen at ilang fil-for sa San Beda. Marami kang matutunan sa kultura nila and at the same thing sila saming mga pinoy. Same thing kung probinsyano man or laking manila.

Anyway back to the topic.

Animo San Beda
Boom! Boom! Boom! JRU

[stone collector]

siyempre wala ng magagawa pa nandito na sila sa pinas!!
at wala pa ring rule tungkol sa foreign player.
sorry na lang si pinoy player na dreaming maging basketball star
na di nabigyan ng break dahil sa import.

ikaw matatawag mo bang "FAIR" iyong

ALL FILIPINO TEAM vs. TEAM w/ IMPORT:grrr:


kung fair sa tingin nyo ito wala akong magagawa!!!

basta ang alam ko mas lumalakas ang pinoy spirit
kapag nasasaling!!!:grrr:

TOUCH ME NOT!!!!*okay*

Mabuhay RIZAL*okay*
BOOM!!!BOOM!!!BOOM!!! Bombers*okay*

[FerdinandMarcos]

alam nyo, grabe talaga ang crab mentality sa bansa natin kaya di tyo umuunlad eh! Ekwe kayo ng Ekwe eh hindi naman yan PINOY. magisip isip nga kyo.

Social problem na to eh! kahit sa ibang liga, UAAP..halabira ayan na nag"iimport" narin sila ng mga players. Paano na yung mga kababayan natin na yun iba inaasahan din basketball sila uunlad?!

Kaya para sakin, mas gugustuhin ko pa magchampion (shempre andun na JRU) kung hindi kami, kahit sino team jan except un may import tulad ng san beda at perpetual.

Tignan nyo, JRU..palakas ng palakas kahit WALANG IMPORT..o LETRAN, nagsimula sa wala pero malakas kahit WLANG IMPORT.. baste..big line up pero WALA IMPORT..

FOR ONCE MAG-ISIP ISIP NAMAN KAYO.. PINOY KA BA?!



Alam mo ba ibig sabihin ng Crab Mentality? It has nothing to do with nationality. no doubt taga JRU ka nga. kung merong crab mentality dito e ikaw un!

Crab mentality describes a way of thinking best described by the phrase "if I can't have it, neither can you." The metaphor refers to a pot of crabs in which one tries to escape over the side, but is relentlessly pulled down by the others in the pot. -wikipedia

FOR ONCE MAG-ISIP ISIP KA NAMAN!

[mighty_lion]

Minsan ang pinakamahirap gawin sa lahat ay kung paano kumbinsihin ang isang saging na kelan man ay hindi sya mamumunga ng mangga. Hay.

Bedans, lets all move on. Wala na tayong magagawa sa pananaw ni stone collector. Lets respect her view. Back to the topic. Id rather suggest we discuss anticipated match-ups and game related discussions on this thread.

[stone collector]

Minsan ang pinakamahirap gawin sa lahat ay kung paano kumbinsihin ang isang saging na kelan man ay hindi sya mamumunga ng mangga. Hay.

Bedans, lets all move on. Wala na tayong magagawa sa pananaw ni stone collector. Lets respect her view. Back to the topic. Id rather suggest we discuss anticipated match-ups and game related discussions on this thread.


sige na nga back to topic na nga!!!

JRU will WIN by 5 pts!!!*okay*

BOOM!!BOOM!!BOOM!! BOMBERS

[DonLabaro]

If San Beda defeats CSB by over 10 pts
I'd go for San Beda by 8pts
Moral building ang victory ng San Beda over Mapua, Baste and hopefully CSB...

Aside from establishing a winning streak, San Beda has also ended San Sebastian's winning streak...

[DonLabaro]

............

[DonLabaro]

You know what's more exciting...
JRU vs CSJL Aug 17

If JRU wins, their momentum will definitely carry over
pag harap ng bombers and Red Lions on Aug 22

wow.. exciting NCAA ngayon... just like last season
San Beda, PCU, and Letran battling for supremacy...
this time, JRU takes PCU's position..

Mabuhay Rizal
Arriba Letran
ANIMO SAN BEDA

[stone collector]

You know what's more exciting...
JRU vs CSJL Aug 17

If JRU wins, their momentum will definitely carry over
pag harap ng bombers and Red Lions on Aug 22

wow.. exciting NCAA ngayon... just like last season
San Beda, PCU, and Letran battling for supremacy...
this time, JRU takes PCU's position..

Mabuhay Rizal
Arriba Letran
ANIMO SAN BEDA


puro mabibigat ang last 3 opponent ng JRU.
Letran, San Beda at San Sebastian!
itong huling 3 opponents parang preview ng Final 4.
kapag na sweep ito with God's blessing super laki ng chance-
siyempre pati na rin confidence ng buong team
to get their target...

NCAA Season 83 Champion!!!

Long Live NCAA!!!!*okay*

[shaqmonster]

siyempre wala ng magagawa pa nandito na sila sa pinas!!
at wala pa ring rule tungkol sa foreign player.
sorry na lang si pinoy player na dreaming maging basketball star
na di nabigyan ng break dahil sa import.

ikaw matatawag mo bang "FAIR" iyong

ALL FILIPINO TEAM vs. TEAM w/ IMPORT:grrr:



Last month, sa Arena may mga 5 JRU students na humiram ng ball pen (Montblanc) sa akin dahil nagpa autograph sila kay Sam Ekwe hyuk hyuk hyuk. Talk about school pride.

Binantayan kong mabuti kasi baka itakbo yung ball pen ko hehehe.

At kahit late na si Sam papunta sa dug out at halatang nagmamadali, he really was very patient with these JRU students at pinagbigyan niya ang kanyang mga fans. :rotflmao:

[red_saint09]

kung fair sa tingin nyo ito wala akong magagawa!!!

basta ang alam ko mas lumalakas ang pinoy spirit
kapag nasasaling!!!:grrr:

TOUCH ME NOT!!!!*okay*

Mabuhay RIZAL*okay*
BOOM!!!BOOM!!!BOOM!!! Bombers*okay*

may FOREIGN player ** naman *** e...

mag boom tarat tarat ka na lang...sisikat ka pa pati JRU

[charmbedista]

may FOREIGN player ** naman *** e...

mag boom tarat tarat ka na lang...sisikat ka pa pati JRU

ang kulit mo red saint! sinabi na nga na "move on" haha! :lol:
joke lang.

[toti mendiola]

If the issue being raised is all about fairness then i do not understand what the fuss is all about. It is rather pitiful for some to construe that fairness in this particular issue is "Having a foreign free NCAA" when in fact, it is being unfair to these particular students who are not filipino passport holders. Because once we still insist on not allowing these foreigners play then you could just throw away the principle of fairness and make it your personal garbage.

[ken_cichla]

alam nyo, grabe talaga ang crab mentality sa bansa natin kaya di tyo umuunlad eh! Ekwe kayo ng Ekwe eh hindi naman yan PINOY. magisip isip nga kyo.

Social problem na to eh! kahit sa ibang liga, UAAP..halabira ayan na nag"iimport" narin sila ng mga players. Paano na yung mga kababayan natin na yun iba inaasahan din basketball sila uunlad?!

Kaya para sakin, mas gugustuhin ko pa magchampion (shempre andun na JRU) kung hindi kami, kahit sino team jan except un may import tulad ng san beda at perpetual.

Tignan nyo, JRU..palakas ng palakas kahit WALANG IMPORT..o LETRAN, nagsimula sa wala pero malakas kahit WLANG IMPORT.. baste..big line up pero WALA IMPORT..

FOR ONCE MAG-ISIP ISIP NAMAN KAYO.. PINOY KA BA?!
pano si Japeth. e di dapat di rin sya pwede maglaro sa WKU kasi pinoy sya?

[algem]

alam nyo, grabe talaga ang crab mentality sa bansa natin kaya di tyo umuunlad eh! Ekwe kayo ng Ekwe eh hindi naman yan PINOY. magisip isip nga kyo.

Social problem na to eh! kahit sa ibang liga, UAAP..halabira ayan na nag"iimport" narin sila ng mga players. Paano na yung mga kababayan natin na yun iba inaasahan din basketball sila uunlad?!

Kaya para sakin, mas gugustuhin ko pa magchampion (shempre andun na JRU) kung hindi kami, kahit sino team jan except un may import tulad ng san beda at perpetual.

Tignan nyo, JRU..palakas ng palakas kahit WALANG IMPORT..o LETRAN, nagsimula sa wala pero malakas kahit WLANG IMPORT.. baste..big line up pero WALA IMPORT..

FOR ONCE MAG-ISIP ISIP NAMAN KAYO.. PINOY KA BA?!

Inggit ka lang hindi "preferred" ng mga foreign students ang school nyo! ZERO ENROLLMENT kayo sa foreign students.Umikot ka sa campus nyo.

Saka huwag kang magagalit ha,ikaw ang crab mentality! lam mo pag maraming foreign students dollar earner yan kasi nagpapadala ng dollars ang mga parents nyan o sponsor kaya for their expenses.
Ikaw ang magisip isip.Dapat magimg compliment sa yo ang pagdagsa ng mga foreign students,meaning they have confidence in our educational system>being in collegiate athletics is just incidental
and besides transfer of technology yan.Tingnan mo si Faundo at Guevarra ng Letran,last year bulabog tumira pag nakaharap na si EKWE.Tingnan mo ngayon alam na nila kung paano ma check yung depensa ni Ekwe o hindi ba nag improve sila? They now know how to play against the like of SAM EKWE.

Maligo ka init lang yan.At ang pinakamasamang crabmentality e ang INGGIT.

[algem]

puro mabibigat ang last 3 opponent ng JRU.
Letran, San Beda at San Sebastian!
itong huling 3 opponents parang preview ng Final 4.
kapag na sweep ito with God's blessing super laki ng chance-
siyempre pati na rin confidence ng buong team
to get their target...

NCAA Season 83 Champion!!!

Long Live NCAA!!!!*okay*

ANONG TARGET?

SAN BEDA VS. LETRAN YAN
2007 NCAA BASKETBALL FINALS

[stone collector]

Inggit ka lang hindi "preferred" ng mga foreign students ang school nyo! ZERO ENROLLMENT kayo sa foreign students.Umikot ka sa campus nyo.


talaga lang ha! "preferred" ang school nyo ha!

SCOUTED yan eh!!:rotflmao:
bukod sa scholar dahil sa varsity . may sahod pa?
libre pa pamasahe noong magbakasyon? dahil kumuha pa ng
isa pang player?

sorry na lang si pinoy player allowance lang ang nakukuha ha..ha..
sige lokohin mo pa si SISA kung maloloko mo pa ha..ha:rotflmao:

pinagyabang pa! tamaan sana ng kidlat ang mga sinugaling!!!!

JRU to win by 5pts
BOOM BOOM BOOM BOMBERS

[clark lopez]

Let's bring the bacon this season


MABUHAY RIZAL

[ZzzzzzzZZZ0909]

Let's bring the bacon this season


MABUHAY RIZAL

Anong Let's bring the bacon pinagsasabi mo jan?:rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Sige na nga. Please bring the bacon to mendiola dis season.:rotflmao: :rotflmao:

[CAV]

bago mag JRU vs SBC, JRU vs CSJL muna.... critical games ahead...

[clark lopez]

Let's bring home the bacon

[DonLabaro]

^hoy chip... clark lopez ang mo'fo!!!

[clark lopez]

I'm satisfied with my motto coz I know that our school is going from success to success.We're on the crest of a wave right now."

GO BOMBERS....

[balbas]

SAN BEDA by at least 15 pts.... ilan ba lamang namin nung opening? malamang maulit yun hehehe

[liontamer]

Last month, sa Arena may mga 5 JRU students na humiram ng ball pen (Montblanc) sa akin dahil nagpa autograph sila kay Sam Ekwe hyuk hyuk hyuk. Talk about school pride.

Binantayan kong mabuti kasi baka itakbo yung ball pen ko hehehe.

At kahit late na si Sam papunta sa dug out at halatang nagmamadali, he really was very patient with these JRU students at pinagbigyan niya ang kanyang mga fans. :rotflmao:

Big time! Pare, baka naman they aren't familiar with the brand. Buti na lang hindi humiram ng digicam o camera phone sa iyo, baka mag pa picture pa!

[nash_bedista]

Big Time AH, naiingit siguro si Hayes, sana may magpa autograph din sa kanya :lol:

[mabuhayrizal]

liontamer, shaqmonster : a huge HAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAH to you fools. this just goes to show how pathetic and trying hard you animals can be. ano ngayon kung mont blanc ballpen mo?mapa-parker pa yan o moore, namiki or conway stewart (tsktsk i can just imagine napapa "ano yun?" na kayo.. tsktsk.,.hahaha) , you have no right to under estimate them.. lokohin nyo lolo nyo bakt kyo magdadala ng mont blanc sa arena! hahahahahahahaha..........!!!

at ikaw nash bedista.. anong inggit si hayes? baka ikaw ang inggit sakanya kasi hindi mo sha kayang tapatan! baka apakan ka pa non sa liit mo eh! ahahahahhahahahaha

[jerin]

sna parang nung opening game. :D


Go San Beda Fight!
ViVa Mapua!

[poging_bagsik]

talaga lang ha! "preferred" ang school nyo ha!

SCOUTED yan eh!!:rotflmao:
bukod sa scholar dahil sa varsity . may sahod pa?
libre pa pamasahe noong magbakasyon? dahil kumuha pa ng
isa pang player?

sorry na lang si pinoy player allowance lang ang nakukuha ha..ha..
sige lokohin mo pa si SISA kung maloloko mo pa ha..ha:rotflmao:

pinagyabang pa! tamaan sana ng kidlat ang mga sinugaling!!!!

JRU to win by 5pts
BOOM BOOM BOOM BOMBERS


bakit hndi mo ilibre ng pamasahe eh pinagchampion **** ang team mo!at hindi lang pamasahe at alowance ang free,pinag training pa nmin sa US...ingit lang kayong mga tga dyiaryu!:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: e2 pa nga picture ni sam ksama nya sa training c joakim noah ng florida ***** bulls nahttp://photos.friendster.com/photos/34/65/24595643/207861365l.jpg

[poging_bagsik]

^^^kaya hindi malabong mapunta sa bulls c sam...naging bestfrnd nya dun c joakim noah.;)

[stone collector]

bakit hndi mo ilibre ng pamasahe eh pinagchampion **** ang team mo!at hindi lang pamasahe at alowance ang free,pinag training pa nmin sa US...ingit lang kayong mga tga dyiaryu!:rotflmao: e2 pa nga picture ni sam ksama nya sa training c joakim noah ng florida ***** bulls nahttp://photos.friendster.com/photos/34/65/24595643/207861365l.jpg


at least umamin diba*okay* wala ng tatamaan ng kidlat hehe:lol:

sana may maglagay din ng picture noong bagong import.
di na rin kasi maitatago iyan kasi nandito na:rotflmao:
saka ang laking tao niyan para di makita.:bop: :bop:

[mighty_lion]

guys paalala lang, this thread is supposed to be game related discussions between SBC and JRU.

[stone collector]

SAN BEDA by at least 15 pts.... ilan ba lamang namin nung opening? malamang maulit yun hehehe

ASA KA PA!!!! :D

nagulat lang ang JRU noon hehe.
mas malakas na ngayo ang confidence ng team
kasi natalo na kayo ng LETRAN!!! by one point!!!

so 5pts for WIN JRU. safe na safe yun
walang halong YABANG he..he...*okay*

[excusemyfrench]

@ topic: mid-high60's/mid-high70's.

SBC will lead as much as 20-/+ in the early quarters,. F.Lim will be his confident fat self again and put bench players in place of the top guns. JRU will catch up and manipulate the RL offense with their stifling defense at the final salvo of the game, reducing the RL lead significantly , the demoralized squad will now showcase their lack of ability to finish a game despite an established big lead early on. then again, some player from RL squad will spark a mini run at the most unexpected time and ruin the JRU HB's momentum.

Fearless Forecast: SBC wins by 4-12.

[clark lopez]

I like JRU at 6-3, I think they've got a good shot at having a championship type team this season and 6-3 is pretty good value.

San beda is going to find life a little bit harder for this game

I believe JRU will definitely be back in this season, and should finish in the top. Again, I think the key is getting this team to play with some defensive intensity - they have to get their defensive per-possession average down at least 5 or 6 points.

GO RIZALIANS..

[ZzzzzzzZZZ0909]

ASA Rizal!!!!!

[excusemyfrench]

^ True. JRU's trapping defense is a pain in the neck but im wondering if they can be consistent with their pesky defense for 40 minutes against a team that could rotate the entire roster.

cagoco,hayes,senna,wilson and even nocom and lithuania must play at 100% condition to be able to utilize JRU's strategies and strategem vs the RL.

[boredtoday]

Let's bring the bacon this season


MABUHAY RIZAL

ok! bedans, let's bring the eggs!!! :rotflmao: :lol:

todo breakfast na to!!!!! LOL!!!

[toti mendiola]

ok! bedans, let's bring the eggs!!! :rotflmao: :lol:

todo breakfast na to!!!!! LOL!!!

Tol buti na lang nilinaw mo, ang nasa isip kong iuuwi nilang bacon eh yung brief.

[clark lopez]

The most selfish one letter word..........."I" -- Avoid it.
The most poisonous three-letter word......."EGO" -- Kill it.
The fastest spreading six-letter word......"RUMOUR" -- Ignore it.
The most enviable eight-letter word......."JEALOUSY" -- Distance it.
The most powerful nine-letter word......."KNOWLEDGE" -- Acquire it.
The most essential ten-letter word......"CONFIDENCE" -- Trust it
The hardest working seven-letter word....."SUCCESS" -- Achieve it.

REMEMBER RIZALIANS WHATEVER HAPPENS, HAPPENS FOR A REASON

GO BOMBERS....

[balbas]

ASA KA PA!!!! :D

nagulat lang ang JRU noon hehe.
mas malakas na ngayo ang confidence ng team
kasi natalo na kayo ng LETRAN!!! by one point!!!

so 5pts for WIN JRU. safe na safe yun
walang halong YABANG he..he...*okay*

JRU by 5 pts???? ASA KA PA!!!! *** lang ang aasa... kung nabigla kayo nung opening mas mabigla kayo ngayon dahil mas natuto na ang Red Lions after matalo sa Letran

[poging_bagsik]

[QUOTE=toti mendiola;21089449]Tol buti na lang nilinaw mo, ang nasa isip kong iuuwi nilang bacon eh yung brief.[/QUOTE
hahaha!malamang bacon nga ang mga brief nila!:lol: :lol: :lol:

[stone collector]

ok! bedans, let's bring the eggs!!! :rotflmao: :lol:

todo breakfast na to!!!!! LOL!!!



sige ITLOG na lang uwi nyo!!! ha..ha...

yung ayaw ng 5pts WIN ng JRU.... sige yabangan na lang!!!
sobra dami ng mayabang dito eh lalo na itong si BALBAS!!!
bunutin ko yan balbas mo eh...

ok sige JRU will WIN by 6pts *okay*

(wala di ko na maitaas eh may "ekwe" kasi SBC ha..ha...
JRU puro 2nd term at rookie pa lang karamihan ha..ha..)

[try_0]

Let's bring the bacon this season


MABUHAY RIZAL


Ok bring your bacon. Hahaha! Do you even understand why you are bringing the bacon? or it should be bring home the bacon. Hahahaha!

[nash_bedista]

bacon? baka wala kang lutuan dyan, miski mantikan man lang. Pahiramin nyo naman ng lutuan yan, para makatikim daw ng Bacon o:lol:

[balbas]

sige ITLOG na lang uwi nyo!!! ha..ha...

yung ayaw ng 5pts WIN ng JRU.... sige yabangan na lang!!!
sobra dami ng mayabang dito eh lalo na itong si BALBAS!!!
bunutin ko yan balbas mo eh...

ok sige JRU will WIN by 6pts *okay*

(wala di ko na maitaas eh may "ekwe" kasi SBC ha..ha...
JRU puro 2nd term at rookie pa lang karamihan ha..ha..)

may pa bacon bacon pa kayong nalalaman dyan eh hopia lang naman dadalin nyo eh...

gusto mo yabangan? yan na lang kasi kaya nyong gawin eh... dahil sa totoo lang hanggang dito lang yang yabang mo... sa game tignan natin kung maka-asta ka pa...

tska tigilan na yang excuses na yan... eh ano kung may Ekwe kami? may nilabag ba kaming rules ng NCAA? diba wala naman? kung matatalo kayo tanggapin nyo, hindi yung puro palusot... hindi pa nagsisimula laro may palusot ka agad eh

[clark lopez]

Don't look down at others when you can't stand straight yourself!

But I must say that this match is getting much better time consuming but fun...

Our team will have to be more innovative if we are to stay ahead of the pack.So let's bring the house down our team is on course for a victory in this season..

WE DO ORDINARY THINGS WITH EXTRA-ORDINARY RESULTS!!! Mabuhay RIZAL!!!

[billbordzz]

kulit ng thread na toh ahh... nyway sana nga maganda ipakita ng JRU para naman hindi lang Letran ang maging exciting na kalabang ng San Beda red lions.. though im guessing that San Beda will win by 12+ points... palitan ang coach ng JRU kung gusto nila magchampion, kasi maganda line-up nila and yet 3rd or 4th lang ata sila sa standings...

[SLiCK08]

not to dish on Bedans, but how can you allow your "fellow" brothers speak this way. I mean I know educated Bedans and hindi sila pumapatol sa mga ganitong bashing...just take a look at the regstrd date... Aug sumali? haaay....please true-blooded Lions, save this one from being a bashers' thread...ginagamit kasi name nyo eh...

[shaqmonster]

liontamer, shaqmonster : a huge HAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAH to you fools. this just goes to show how pathetic and trying hard you animals can be. ano ngayon kung mont blanc ballpen mo?mapa-parker pa yan o moore, namiki or conway stewart (tsktsk i can just imagine napapa "ano yun?" na kayo.. tsktsk.,.hahaha) , you have no right to under estimate them.. lokohin nyo lolo nyo bakt kyo magdadala ng mont blanc sa arena! hahahahahahahaha..........!!!
at ikaw nash bedista.. anong inggit si hayes? baka ikaw ang inggit sakanya kasi hindi mo sha kayang tapatan! baka apakan ka pa non sa liit mo eh! ahahahahhahahahaha

Ay sus, bakit daw kami magdadala ng montblanc sa arena? hahaha. mababang level nga talaga kayo.

Sige ipapaliwanag ko sa iyo ha? Yang montbanc namin e naka sabit yan sa mga polo barong namin na gusot mayaman. For everyday use namin yan sa opisina. At pag nanonood kami sa arena e galing kami sa aming mga opisina sa ortigas at makati, Kuha mo?

Naiintindihan kita kasi sa car wash na pinatatrabahuan mo e di kailangan at walang ganun. :rotflmao: Hayaan mo para kumita ka e ipapalinis ko sa yo ang sasakyan ko pag medyo madumi na. :lol:

[shaqmonster]

at least umamin diba*okay* wala ng tatamaan ng kidlat hehe:lol:

sana may maglagay din ng picture noong bagong import.
di na rin kasi maitatago iyan kasi nandito na:rotflmao:
saka ang laking tao niyan para di makita.:bop: :bop:

Bayaan mo, ang ipo post namin ay yung group picture ng lahat ng mga recruits namin from the US, Argentina, Nigeria, Brazil at
China.

[dawnsaint_03]

mga pare peace nmn jan..m rooting for san beda to win by 10pts..bsyds even without sam, san beda can beat jru anytime..

[ken_cichla]

mismatch and San Beda sa lahat ng NCAA teams this year. masyadong malakas talaga. I hope next year may mahanap na malalaking players na magalaing *** ibang team para naman maganda laban

[attyatlast]

Pabayaan nyo ng lumigaya nag Hopia sa Basketball, kasi hanggang doon lang naman sila magaling...Pagbigyan nyo na....Dito lang sila may significance....Sa iba pa, meron ba?

[pulASUL]

mga rizalians..

stop arguin' with bedan people..

hindi kayo mananalo jan.
kahit ateneo or lasalle sa ibang mga forum ko..
binabangga nila..

no say na lang tayo..

let them be what they want themselves to be..

peace men!

hoping for a nice match this august 31st..

_________________
ARRIBA LETRAN!

[pulASUL]

mga rizalians..

stop arguin' with bedan people..

hindi kayo mananalo jan.
kahit ateneo or lasalle sa ibang mga forum na nabasa ko..
binabangga nila..

no say na lang tayo..

let them be what they want themselves to be..

peace men!

hoping for a nice match this august 31st..

_________________
ARRIBA LETRAN!

[toti mendiola]

not to dish on Bedans, but how can you allow your "fellow" brothers speak this way. I mean I know educated Bedans and hindi sila pumapatol sa mga ganitong bashing...just take a look at the regstrd date... Aug sumali? haaay....please true-blooded Lions, save this one from being a bashers' thread...ginagamit kasi name nyo eh...


Erap efforts have been made even before this thread. Y(ounger) gens have their own way. Besides this Bedans are old enough to know the consequences of what they do. Magsasawa at magsasawa din ang mga ito. besides there are moderators here who have that authority. If this were happening in our house(b.com) necessary sanction would be immediately made but this is not our house where we could effectively take appropriate actions.
Besides, all members here are requested to strictly and diligently follow the rules posted in the fora prior to posting.
A wishful thinking since this is cyberspace. Where,for some or many,posters could be anyone and everything but themselves.

[stone collector]

Bayaan mo, ang ipo post namin ay yung group picture ng lahat ng mga recruits namin from the US, Argentina, Nigeria, Brazil at
China.


WOW!!! coming from the monkeys mouth
ay mali... monster pala he..he...!!!:D

RECRUITER na pala ang SBC ngayon!!!! he..he...*okay*

ok i dare you! i-post mo lahat!!!:rotflmao:


JRU win by 6pts!!!

BOOM!BOOM! BOMBERS!! FIGHT!!!

[shaqmonster]

double post.

[shaqmonster]

Sus, nagpatawa ang amoeba bwahahahaha. At least monkeys have brains. Amoeba? Nah, you wouldn't even probably know how to spell it right. :naughty:

Uuuuyyyyy i-post ko daw lahat. Excited, hahahahahaha. :lol:

Sang car wash ka ba nagta trabaho at magpapalinis ako ng kotse ko? Bigyan kita ng P50 na tip para makapanood ka na sa arena for the first time dun ka nga lang sa bleachers, ok na ba yun. *okay*

[stone collector]

Sus, nagpatawa ang amoeba bwahahahaha. At least monkeys have brains. Amoeba? Nah, you wouldn't even probably know how to spell it right. :naughty:

Uuuuyyyyy i-post ko daw lahat. Excited, hahahahahaha. :lol:

Sang car wash ka ba nagta trabaho at magpapalinis ako ng kotse ko? Bigyan kita ng P50 na tip para makapanood ka na sa arena for the first time dun ka nga lang sa bleachers, ok na ba yun. *okay*


kawawa naman pati CAR WASH pinasok na.. post ka naman ng may laman... nahahalata na walang laman ang UTAK MO.

this thread is for San Beda Lions vs. Jose Rizal Bombers...
hindi po ito THREAD KO:D

HAYAAN MO GAGAWA AKO NG THREAD KO DITO para doon mo ako alipustahin.

may pera nga WALA NAMAN UTAK!!:D


BOMBERS BY 6PTS

HUWAG MABAHALA SA BAGONG IMPORT NA KAPALIT DAW
NI EKWE DAHIL NEXT SEASON NA YUN LALABAS:rotflmao:

[eklavu]

siyempre wala ng magagawa pa nandito na sila sa pinas!!
at wala pa ring rule tungkol sa foreign player.
sorry na lang si pinoy player na dreaming maging basketball star
na di nabigyan ng break dahil sa import.

ikaw matatawag mo bang "FAIR" iyong

ALL FILIPINO TEAM vs. TEAM w/ IMPORT:grrr:


STONE COLLECTOR,

GANUN LANG TALAGA UN. TANGGAPIN NG MALUWAG. MALAY MO NEXT TIME, SA INYO NAMAN ANG EKSENA. U SHOULD NOT BE SORRY FOR THE PINOY PLAYERS THAT UR REFERRING TO. U SHOULD BE SORRY FOR YOUR SELF. LAST YEAR PA YANG ISSUE NG EKWE EKWE NA YAN. TIGILAN.

THE BEST THING THAT YOU CAN DO NOW IS SUPPORT YOUR TEAM DEDMA NA SA BASHING.

AND 1 MORE THING, DO URSELF A FAVOR? WAG KANG BITTER. TAKE A BATH. INIT LANG ***** NG WANKATA YAN.

STAND ALONE
GO SAN BEDA FIGHT

[simplow]

tama na muna ang debate kay ekwe...

any analysis on this matchup on wednesday?!?!

ano ba specific strengths ng san beda? jru?

[nets]

haaaay sana ireveal na para malaman nila *** kung sinu tinutukoy nating import wahahahah:D anu kaya intsura nila pg nalaman nila *** import na un lalo na si mini ginobili whahaha at si bon bon james naku po!!! nba sa ncaa yare na!:lol: isipin mo lahat import starting players ng SAN BEDA nxt yr wow...expect more trolls whahaha

[ZzzzzzzZZZ0909]

Wala na luto na tong laban na to. NCAA mancom nga mismo niluluto na San Beda mga refree pa kaya.

[skopy]

NCAA: Lion Aljamal’s fate hangs


By Marc Anthony Reyes, Roy Luarca
Inquirer
Last updated 02:51am (Mla time) 08/22/2007


MANILA, Philippines -- The thunderous roar of the San Beda Red Lions in the NCAA men’s basketball tournament may yet be reduced to a whimper.

This developed Tuesday after the league’s management committee (Mancom) disqualified a key player -- Yousif Aljamal -- from playing in the Lions’ remaining games, including San Beda’s 2 p.m. tussle against resurgent Jose Rizal University at 2 p.m. Wednesday at The Arena in San Juan City.

The 6-foot-4 Aljamal was penalized for allegedly failing to notify the Mancom of his inclusion in the Philippine Basketball Association’s Rookie Draft held last Sunday, where he was chosen as the 8th pick by Air21 but shipped to Talk ‘N Text.

San Beda College rector-president Rev. Fr. Mateo de Jesus strongly protested the Mancom decision and appealed to the NCAA policy board to nullify Aljamal’s disqualification.

The policy board, made up of representatives from the member schools, is set to act on Aljamal’s case before Wednesday’s triple-bill capped by the Mapua-St. Benilde clash at 4 p.m.

“There is no clear-cut policy or any written ruling that an NCAA player who wishes to be part of the PBA needs to secure the permission of the NCAA’s Mancom,” said De Jesus in a press statement. “This decision of the Mancom is clearly unfair and one-sided, and quite contrary to the spirit of collegiality that the NCAA seeks to foster.

“This episode could create the misperception that the NCAA is, in fact, not supportive of its players seeking to move up to the professional ranks.”

The defending champion Lions have won their last three games en route to a pacesetting 8-win, 1-loss record and a berth in the Final Four. They advanced ahead of the idle Letran College Knights, who are assured of a playoff for a semifinal slot at 7-2.

The third-running JRU Heavy Bombers (6-3) are looking to put a foot inside the Final Four when they tackle the Lions.

Even JRU coach Ariel Vanguardia is surprised by his wards’ five-game winning run.

“We have discovered the fire within us and that showed in how we played in the past five games,” said Vanguardia after his wards disposed of the University of Perpetual Help Altas, 65-62, last Aug. 8. “Things are going well for us right now.”

A lone juniors game pitting the Lighties against the Red Cubs at 11:30 a.m. completes the day’s schedule.

The Cardinals (5-6) try to close out their elimination schedule with a victory that would give Mapua at least a rubber match for the last Final Four slot.

A loss will jeopardize Mapua’s chances because it could no longer get a sixth win which idle San Sebastian College (4-5) can still achieve.

[cobalt]

siyempre wala ng magagawa pa nandito na sila sa pinas!!
at wala pa ring rule tungkol sa foreign player.
sorry na lang si pinoy player na dreaming maging basketball star
na di nabigyan ng break dahil sa import.

ikaw matatawag mo bang "FAIR" iyong

ALL FILIPINO TEAM vs. TEAM w/ IMPORT:grrr:

Instead of crab mentality, Filipinos should have the "can-do" attitude. If there is an import on the other side, then one should try and practice harder to be at par with the "better players". If you resort to crab mentality and making excuses, then you'll always be mired in mediocrity (unless that's what you want).

[rhk111]

I think that the refs, & organizers of this tournament should REALLY keep a close watch of the games this afternoon. There's a lot of bad blood & emotion that have been generated off the court by JRU's low-blow, so expect the participants in this afternoon's game to have hair-trigger tempers.

'Pag nagka sagian dyan, o kaya nagka pikunan sa loob ng court, naku ....'

I hope I'm wrong, & that cooler heads will prevail inside the court this afternoon, because if not, then you have been warned .....

[ilmer]

JRU feeling talaga ang kapal ng mukha as in.

[rhk111]

'Nag start na ang game, a. 2:00 pm start daw ng game dapat?' What happened? Any updates out there?

[excusemyfrench]

HALFTIME UPDATE:

SBCRL vs. JRUHB

SCORE IS 36-28 IN FAVOR OF JRU.

Effective defense and quality shots gave jru the lead. they have also made a number of killer treys. The SBC squad, on the other hand seems to be in a frantic state and is unable to deliver crushing plays as of the moment.

[stone collector]

JRU feeling talaga ang kapal ng mukha as in.



IKAW LANG ANG MAKAPAL ANG MUKHA

huwag pasinin ito. KSP!!!:D


half time

JRU-36
beda-28

BOOM! BOOM! BOMBERS! FIGHT!

[rhk111]

'Yung mga nang iisa, para lang manalo KUNO, yun ang mga makakapal ang mukha.'

[fibz007]

San Beda won.

[excusemyfrench]

SAN BEDA RED LIONS VICTORIOUS OVER THE JRU SQUAD

82-74. looks like my prediction was right.

it was an exciting game. jru went on an all-out assault(literally) on the sbc players while the red squad showed composure and experience oncourt. btw, madrama ang laban.. hope uve seen it! daming off court actions!

good show!

[pgma]

bwahahahahahaha ahihihihi hahahahahaha ahihihi bwahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha grabe! yahoooooo!

one lesson. playing barbaric wont win games.
natakot si coach ariel? :)

[excusemyfrench]

^maybe shaking in the legs... nagtago sa likod ng mga players nya eh.. haha... cant he even be a man for his boys?

[rhk111]

Is it true, that SBC filed a TRO thru ACCRA, that's why Aljamal was able to play in this game?

Beda reportedly won by 8 pts.

'Karma. Nandaya na, di pa rin umubra.'

[boredtoday]

jru bench should be suspended for at least a game for clearing. vanguardia should join them as well for condoning or maybe even instructing his players to give very hard fouls.

masahol pa sa larong kanto! at least sa kanto may libreng sarsi yung nanalo, eh tong mga ogres na to ni shake hands wala!

these dogs deserve every bit of coach frankie's slurs.

[bedan_chiq21]

ayun..nakakatawa yung game! sumusugod pa sa bench ng beda ang players ng JRU? ano yun? sang kanto ba *** naglalaro? wahahah! *peace* nyahaha ang gulo kasi! nakakatawa!!

galing galing ni #9 ng san beda hahaha! GO ALJAMAL!

nanalo beda bhelat..hahaha!!!

[fibz007]

nakita nyo ba yung dala ng mga alumni na hopia? talagang na focus pa sa tv.. haha

I feel sorry for jru. Dumi ng laro nila eh.. i wonder whether it's just mere desperation or inborn tactics nila yun.

Animo San Beda!

[rhk111]

I wonder what's driving this desperation by JRU to win. Maybe all that money they've spent on conditioning training has emptied their coffers, that's why they now want to win as if their lives depended on it (maybe it does).

As for Vanguardia, 'saang butas sa lupa ba pinulot iyan?'

(Shakes head). I can only sigh at seeing what is happening to the NCAA. We now have teams which have no sense of shame whatsoever to cheat & take advantage of other people just to try to win games. 'Lantaran, at harap-harapan pa kung manlamang.'

[pgma]

^maybe shaking in the legs... nagtago sa likod ng mga players nya eh.. haha... cant he even be a man for his boys?


some said that the fat guy urinate in his pants? is it true?

nagtago sa likod ng mga players? really? bwahahahahahaha

not bec. u r in a winning streak, u can be arrogant.

natawa ako sa time out ni coach Frankie...sabi ni Butch.."its something personal".

[_eyeofthelion_]

Nice game!!!

Congrats once again to the San Beda Red Lions for

winning the dramatic and controversial game against the...

ehem... JRU Heavy Bombers... heavy sa effort, lahat gagawin para

lang manalo!!! hehehe

GO FIGHT, RED AND WHITE!!!

ANIMO SAN BEDA

[bedan_chiq21]

"walang magagawang mabuti ang panlalamang sa kapwa"

tama dba?? nakita yan sa game kanina!

pati c aljamal **** po alisin! wtf!

wag gnn..hahaha!

[antoine666]

^how lovely, better bring some pampers next time.
skwating plays, nice one jru. mukhang kapit kayo sa patalim kanina ah. hard foul after hard foul - your plays are full of rubbish. now take it easy and have some crackers for a change.

they even tried to provoke sam to a fight so that he'll be kicked out of the court, how's that for sportsmanship?

[pgma]

^^
pampers for who? :D

stone collector:
where r u? sali ka naman sa usapan namin. ok lang un. don't feel sad...panalo naman kayo nung first half dba? cheer up :D

[bedan_chiq21]

uu nga..parang nawala c stone collector! dba sabi mo mananalo kayo by 6pts..hehe nanalo naman kayo eh by 8pts un nga lang nung 2nd half lang!

[fibz007]

uy baka nagtatampo si stone collector.. wag kayo ganyan hehehe

[moksdelight]

coach ng jru nagtago sa players... bigong bumalik sa kalentong!!... wheheheh... :mecry: :p


eniweys!... saludo akuh sa RED LIONS!!... thats what we call PUSO NG KAMPEON!!!.... "great basketball brought by the GREAT SAN BEDA RED LION!!.... " lets give credit nmn to coach frankie!!... he had proven himself to the bedan community na he can stand for his boys!!... CONGRATS RED LIONS!!!....

ANIMO BEDISTA!!!...*okay* *okay*

[motuphils]

I can understand why Coach Frankie lost his cool awhile ago. The fouls that the JRU boys were giving our boys were career-ending. Sahod, alanganing tulak...buti na lang nobody got seriously injured.

Anyways, nice game Red Lions!! Jamal! WOOOOHOOO!!!! What a three during the dying seconds of the game. That was the final nail on JRU's coffin. Nice set-up plays by Pong. Ogie got his groove during the 2nd half.

I didn't see Dave MArcelo sa bench kanina. What happened to him?

And the classic "pang-asar" timeout by coach Frankie during the last 13 seconds of the game, he was rubbing it in.

After all the commotion, and its time for JRU to sing their Alma Mater hymn, at least the Bedan crowd just watched in silence and waited patiently for their turn to sing their song. No need to kick an opponent when he's already down.

I have to give credit to JRU for taking advantage of the "rusty" playing of the Red Lions. For a moment, it made us think they had our number. But the Red Lions regrouped in the 2nd half and never looked back since.

Great game guys! See you sa Final 4 JRU Heavy Bombers!

FOR SAN BEDA, OUR COUNTRY AND GOD!!!

[boozer]

Ayos sa fouls ang JRU ah? First play palang ni Pong kala ko nanonood ako ng UFC.

Dito pala binuhos yung strength conditioning training nila.

Win at all cost narin ba kayo?

[fibz007]

Ayos sa fouls ang JRU ah? First play palang ni Pong kala ko nanonood ako ng UFC.

Dito pala binuhos yung strength conditioning training nila.

Win at all cost narin ba kayo?

Wrestler ata ytung mga taga JRU eh hehe kawawa si pong.. kala ko maiinjure.

Animo San Beda!

[mighty_lion]

Dave had a sprain. Di na sya pinaglaro.

[nash_bedista]

asan yung Stone Collector? na mimiss ko na siya, tsk3x umuwi sa Kalentong umiiyak :lol: kasama ni vanguardia. tsk3x

[pgma]

bumili ng pampers sa kalentong? ahihihihi

[attyatlast]

Is it true, that SBC filed a TRO thru ACCRA, that's why Aljamal was able to play in this game?

Beda reportedly won by 8 pts.

'Karma. Nandaya na, di pa rin umubra.'

Malas sila dahil dinala ng JRU ang laro sa usapan legal, alam naman nilang mala LEON ang mga abugado na galing sa San Beda..Malamang tawagan ni BCHEMIST yung pinsan nyang lawyer sa Arizona hehehehehehehehehehehehe...
Madami rin taga JRU sa ACCRA.......... Taga walis, map at timpla ng kape ng mga associates ng ACCRA..

[whitedblued]

Tsktsk.. i'm not a supporter of San Beda nor JRU but these are the days that i'd prefer KOY Banal to take over the red lions.

1.) Frankie needs education in terms of fashion. :lol: Sino ba namang O.A. na coach ang pupunta sa games naka skinny jeans at patusok na shoes???? ano yan boy abunda??!???? He reminds me of a medicine commercial (for headache ata :lol: i forgot the brand) na ulo lang tapos puro nails yung ulo.. no seriously, ka-o-oyan na yang "fashion statement" ng coach na yan. Remember, this IS BASKETBALL not a fashion show. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

2.) I just watched the replay of JRU-Beda matchup where the 2 coaches were in a near fight on court. In all honesty, i don't see the logic on why San Beda's coach suddenly bashed on JRU's Coach. True enough, JRU's player may hit on a very physical foul which got into frankie's head BUT the question is... anong kinalaman nung JRU Coach don??? It's acceptable pa sana kung yung JRU player nalang sinugod nya or yung ref...pero yung coach ng jru?? what's the logic on that??

It's just too disappointing to see that kind of situation where KOY BANAL never EVER did such stupidity on court.

One more thing, calling two useless timeouts in the end canto just to annoy the opponent... WHAT THE...WTF! nakakatawang isipin na inooverpower nyo ang JRU, "bakit ka pumapatol sa level nila"?

ohwell... hope to see koy back next season.

[boredtoday]

^

1.) make up your mind. you said that it is a basketball game and not a fashion show. THEN WHY THE HELL DO YOU CARE SO MUCH about what coach frankie was wearing? did the mormon getup of the other coaching staff win them the game?

2.) different strokes for different folks. ;) coach koy had been wonderful but we're with coach frankie now and he's got our support ALL THE WAY.

[oisinoid]

galing naman ng mga bombers... :o :o :o

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i63/luranski/wmphoto.aspx.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i63/luranski/wmphoto.aspx2.jpg

[MakaveliLives]

haha naunahan ako ni BT..anyway to answer your 2nd question..do u really think the players will keep doing that without the blessing of the coach? kung ayaw ng coach yung pinaggagagawa ng players nya pinull out na nya yan..

ayos yung 2nd picture ah..sakal ang a knee to the groin..

[whitedblued]

MakaveliLives: huh?? nanuod ka ba ng laro?? pinull out nga!

ganda ng sapatos ni se

[algem]

all filipino team JRU against SBC team with foreign player puwede matalo? kasi nakakahiya kapag natalo kayo ng JRU sayang ang foreign player nyo :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

advantage pa rin kami kahit saang angle*okay*

I have practically read all the posts here and i can safely say who among here are level headed and who are not..and i find you very amusing.Kakatawa ka.
You are a pityful heckler.Hindi na nga sana ako popost kaya lang kapikon ang utak mo e.
Walang gaaanyan sa STATES !!

[algem]

MakaveliLives: huh?? nanuod ka ba ng laro?? pinull out nga!

ganda ng sapatos ni se

Sapatos lang? e yung MUKHA ?

[balbas]

napanood nyo ba yung hardball? ayos yung interview kay coach frankie hehehe... syempre mainit pa rin ang ulo, wala daw class yung coach ng JRU, at kung gusto daw manalo ng JRU dun daw sa court at hindi dinadaan sa mga boardroom meeting (di ko masyadong narinig tong part na to kaya hindi po ako sigurado)... yung last part ng sinabi nya ang nakakatawa... "kabaklaan yang p*t@ng in@ng yan" hahaha:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

[Ace_Kn|ghT_9]

^

respect earned!*okay*

[ilmer]

Haha buti nga mga hopia. Talunin nyo ang SBC sa court... basketball court. Nice one Coach Frankie, they deserve that.

[ken_cichla]

napanood nyo ba yung hardball? ayos yung interview kay coach frankie hehehe... syempre mainit pa rin ang ulo, wala daw class yung coach ng JRU, at kung gusto daw manalo ng JRU dun daw sa court at hindi dinadaan sa mga boardroom meeting (di ko masyadong narinig tong part na to kaya hindi po ako sigurado)... yung last part ng sinabi nya ang nakakatawa... "kabaklaan yang p*t@ng in@ng yan" hahaha:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
sapul na sapul nga pre... grabe talagang wa class...

[SLiCK08]

tapos kakahiya pa, la man lang hiya na ginagamit pa din ang letter cheer ng LETRAN...

mga cheerer ng JRU, buti nakakatulog kayo ng maayos!

[poging_bagsik]

napanood nyo ba yung hardball? ayos yung interview kay coach frankie hehehe... syempre mainit pa rin ang ulo, wala daw class yung coach ng JRU, at kung gusto daw manalo ng JRU dun daw sa court at hindi dinadaan sa mga boardroom meeting (di ko masyadong narinig tong part na to kaya hindi po ako sigurado)... yung last part ng sinabi nya ang nakakatawa... "kabaklaan yang p*t@ng in@ng yan" hahaha:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

bro my replay ba *** hardball today?*** time...tnx

[pgma]

napanood nyo ba yung hardball? ayos yung interview kay coach frankie hehehe... syempre mainit pa rin ang ulo, wala daw class yung coach ng JRU, at kung gusto daw manalo ng JRU dun daw sa court at hindi dinadaan sa mga boardroom meeting (di ko masyadong narinig tong part na to kaya hindi po ako sigurado)... yung last part ng sinabi nya ang nakakatawa... "kabaklaan yang p*t@ng in@ng yan" hahaha:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:


is he referring to coach fattie? bading? :D
stone collector can u confirm this?

nagtatago kasi sa likod ng mga players niya.... kuwitis lang pala :D

[red_track]

yung katulong ko, graduate ng JRU. naglalaba ngayon.. mamaya magsasampay.. =)

[bonzieknight45]

Red Lions win on and off the court



By Waylon Galvez

SAN BEDA won twice over yesterday. First, it succeeded in getting a Temporary Restraining Order that allowed its star player Yousif Aljamal to play against host Jose Rizal University.


Then in a highly-emotional and physical game, the defending champions Red Lions downed the Heavy Bombers, 82-74, a win that consolidated their lead in the NCAA basketball tournament at The Arena in San Juan.

Aljamal, earlier banned by the NCAA Management Committee for the rest of the season for applying in the PBA Rookie Draft last Sunday without permission, scored 23 points, grabbed nine rebounds, issued two assists and made two steals in 34 minutes, a clear indication of just how important he is to his team.

The win was the 9th for the Red Lions in 10 games, while the loss was JRU’s fourth that snapped a five-game winning run. The Bombers are now 6-4.

The win did not assuage San Beda mentor Frankie Lim. After the game, lambasted the MANCOM, chaired by Jose Supan of JRU, for its decision to disqualify Aljamal.

"It was an emotional game. Hindi dapat nila ginawa kay Yousif ‘yun. It’s unfair for him, and it was baseless. The games should be won on the court and not in the boardroom," Lim said.

Lim also assailed the way JRU played, claiming its players were apparently instructed to hurt the Red Lions.

"I don’t mind playing physical, pero kung ganun ang gusto nila, suntukan na lang pwede din kami dun," said Lim. "It just showed that they don’t have class."

The situation almost escalated into a brawl when Lim deliberately bumped JRU coach Ariel Vanguardia as the two walked towards the exit after the game.

The two were separated by cooler heads.

"Binangga n’ya ako. So ngayon, sino ang walang class?," said Vanguardia, who served as assistant Talk ‘N Text coach when Lim was the Phone Pals’ team manager.

The MANCOM refused to discuss the incident, but according to a league insider, the officials will determine if Lim should be slapped a penalty.
Mapua, on the other hand, finished its elimination round campaign with an 84-71 win over College of Saint Benilde.

Kelvin dela Pena collected 26 points, 10 rebounds, eight assists and five steals as the Cardinals ended the eliminations with a five-game winning run for a 6-6 record.

In juniors action, guard Bon Jovi Cipriano dropped 42 points as the JRU Light Bombers averted a twin kill by San Beda with a 109-103 win over the Red Cubs.

The scores:

First Game (Juniors)

JRU 109 – Cipriano 42, Agovida 35, Madlangbayan 16, Vigil 10, Camar 4, Regis 2, Vital 0, Matias 0, Villegas 0, Villasper 0.

SBC 103 – Salva 29, Revilla 18, Bernas 13, Lobaton 12, dela Cruz 10, Babilonia 9, Panaligan 4, Monteclaro 3, Ayala 3, Asinas 2, Altamirano 0.

Quarters: 20-23, 44-53, 77-83, 109-103.

JRU 20 24 33 32 – 109

SBC 23 30 30 20 – 103

Second Game (Seniors)

SBC 82 – Aljamal 23, Menor 16, Escobal 15, Ekwe 14, Hermida 5, Lanete 5, Gamalinda 2, Tirona 2, Taganas 0, Maggay 0.

JRU 74 – Sena 18, Wilson 13, Hayes 13, Nocom 8, Pradas 7, Cagoco 5, Cunanan 3, Agas 3, Bulangis 2, Se 2, Lituania 0.

Quarters: 12-14, 28-36, 59-51, 82-74.

SBC 12 16 31 23 – 82

JRU 14 22 15 23 – 74

Third Game (Seniors)

MIT 84 – Dela Peña 26, Del Rosario 22, Co 14, Acosta 8, Banal 6, Pascual 5, Sumalinog 3, Guillermo 0.

CSB 71 – Robles 20, Johnston 10, Sevilla 10, Layug 8, Porras 8, Cabatu 4, Cadiz 4, Manlapaz 3, David 2, Montecastro 2.

Quarters: 28-20, 44-35, 59-55, 84-71.

MIT 28 16 15 25 – 84

CSB 20 15 20 16 – 71






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so nagkaroon pa pala ng konting away sila coach ariel and coach frankie sa labas... pinost ko lang ito pero it doesn't mean na may kakampihan ako sa kanila. hinaylayt ko lang yung di nakita sa tv hehehe.

[pgma]

"Binangga n’ya ako. So ngayon, sino ang walang class?," said Vanguardia, who served as assistant Talk ‘N Text coach when Lim was the Phone Pals’ team manager.

ngeeeee... nabangga lang waaaaaaaaaa! kawawa **** si baby fattie.

[fibz007]

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n140/bokbok1/SBCJRU001.jpg

natawa ako dito sa pics na to. haha

[red_saint09]

ui *** building dw ng JRU dating factory ng hopia... =)

[fely_fajardo]

Let's all be level-headed about these. Lim makes an allegation that the players were instructed by the coach. Does he have proof of this? Does he have a tape of Vanguardia instructing his players to play dirty against San Beda? Bumping the JRU coach in the hallway is unprofessional whether the coach instructed the players or not. Using words like "suntukan na lang", "kabaklaan" on national TV shows lack of maturity as a coach. Perhaps if he had more experience in coaching he may have shown a more mature disposition . He totally lost his poise. Let's call a spade a spade. On the other hand, if Vanguardia indeed instructed his players to rough-house the beda players shame on him. If he did, hopefully it can be proven and that he be suspended. This should be the penalty and not to be bumped and challenged to a fistfight. That's just immature.

[red_track]

pare, dating asst coach ng talk and text si vanguardia at si frankie lim ang team manager. kilala nya mga galaw at tactics ni HOGuardia este vanguardia.. kaya naman mag rereact si c.frankie sa ganun..

[DonLabaro]

Let's all be level-headed about these. Lim makes an allegation that the players were instructed by the coach. Does he have proof of this? Does he have a tape of Vanguardia instructing his players to play dirty against San Beda? Bumping the JRU coach in the hallway is unprofessional whether the coach instructed the players or not. Using words like "suntukan na lang", "kabaklaan" on national TV shows lack of maturity as a coach. Perhaps if he had more experience in coaching he may have shown a more mature disposition . He totally lost his poise. Let's call a spade a spade. On the other hand, if Vanguardia indeed instructed his players to rough-house the beda players shame on him. If he did, hopefully it can be proven and that he be suspended. This should be the penalty and not to be bumped and challenged to a fistfight. That's just immature.

I see your point
Frankie cant accuse Vanguardia
but why all bombs on our coach?
Why don't you guys criticize the players of JRU

Tamak kayo, Frankie can't make those kind of allegations
but
HOW CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE ACTIONS OF THE JRU PLAYERS?
Tama ba yung ginawa nila...
3 UNSPORTSMAN LIKE FOULS???
One of which included a JRU player choking and kneeing Ogie Menor?

If the other NCAA students dont share the sympathy of San Beda
then there is defintiely something WRONG in the NCAA...
eto nalang masasabi ko...
If they can do that to San Beda
they can do this to you!!!

BEDAN arrgogance??? Maybe not this time....

ANIMO SAN BEDA!!!

[rpp18]

grabe jru. desperado masyado manalo kahit makasakit na ng kapwa players nila. basketbrawl ang alam. basketball is a physical sport pero it does not justify the flagrant foul against menor. 3 flagrant fouls in one game!!!! grabe naman kayo! mag inter-barangay nalang kayo next year. in all angels you cannot compare sbc from jru. jru is jru lang!!!!!


animo san beda!
arriba letran!
viva mapua!
animo benilde!
bravo baste!

[whitedblued]

fely fajardo : You have my respect!!!!!!! i'm just like you, i dont really side anyone...kung mali, mali talaga. just like Frankie Lim's get up sa games... yun, MALI YON! hahaha... kidding aside, i'm just being practical.

There's not proof that JRU's Coach was in favor of that foul nor did he really instruct his player to play like that literally.

Just like what i've said and i'll say it again. FRANKIE LIM needs to learn more in terms of coaching.

You were talking about "Class" wTF! hindi ba, yun ang kabaklaan... haha!! and maaan, i thought beda's 'more educated' than JRU... eh bakit ang dumi ng bibig ng San beda coach na yan!!!! he should be the role model of his players. Some of his players like Menor has my respect as they went to jru's side after the game...yung iba, mga ewan! Mashado nang mayabang ang san beda... makakarma din kayo.

As for JRU's coach, if he really did instruct his boys to foul like that, which has yet to be proven in a tape if there is, then shame on him!

that's it. case closed.

[whitedblued]

* There's NO proof...

[liontamer]

Let's all be level-headed about these. Lim makes an allegation that the players were instructed by the coach. Does he have proof of this? Does he have a tape of Vanguardia instructing his players to play dirty against San Beda? Bumping the JRU coach in the hallway is unprofessional whether the coach instructed the players or not. Using words like "suntukan na lang", "kabaklaan" on national TV shows lack of maturity as a coach. Perhaps if he had more experience in coaching he may have shown a more mature disposition . He totally lost his poise. Let's call a spade a spade. On the other hand, if Vanguardia indeed instructed his players to rough-house the beda players shame on him. If he did, hopefully it can be proven and that he be suspended. This should be the penalty and not to be bumped and challenged to a fistfight. That's just immature.

How can you be level headed when you are being maligned and done wrong? Frankie Lim is not only standing up for his players but for San Beda also. Maybe you won't get it but that's the big difference between him and Hoguardia. Frankie is one of our own, Bedista iyan, but Hoguardia is just a JRU employee and if not for having a job I bet he won't even dream of associating himself with the institution.

Level headedness is ideal, yes, but there are limits as to what malice and scheming people can take.

[ill_behaviour]

ako rin wala akong class kaya suntukan na lang tayo whitedblued. pm mo sakin address mo at suntukan na lang tayo.

[whitedblued]

tsk...you bedan peole.. why don't you just accept kung may mali sa side nyo!??!?!?! mashado kayong mayabang! may nakita pa akong nakacorporate attire sa beda side...hindi pumasok sa trabaho para manuod lang ng game...haha o.a. naman nun...

on the other haaand, people lilke me or faye fajardo is just in between of this issue... parehong may mali pero mas mabigat kay frankie dahil aside from his annoying get up na shang talagang "KABAKLAAN" (Remember: You are WHAT YOU SAY!!! hahahaha), eh ang dumi ng bunganga parang walang pinagaralan!

[whitedblued]

ill_behaviour: ano tara! kalevel mo pala si frankie lim sa kabaklaan eh!!! "class" diba halos babae lang gumagamit ng salita na yon..... haha

[ill_behaviour]

blah blah bblah.abadi abadi.

[boredtoday]

class" diba halos babae lang gumagamit ng salita na yon..... haha
WTF? :rotflmao:

[RedLion2001]

fely fajardo : You have my respect!!!!!!! i'm just like you, i dont really side anyone...kung mali, mali talaga. just like Frankie Lim's get up sa games... yun, MALI YON! hahaha... kidding aside, i'm just being practical.

There's not proof that JRU's Coach was in favor of that foul nor did he really instruct his player to play like that literally.

Just like what i've said and i'll say it again. FRANKIE LIM needs to learn more in terms of coaching.

You were talking about "Class" wTF! hindi ba, yun ang kabaklaan... haha!! and maaan, i thought beda's 'more educated' than JRU... eh bakit ang dumi ng bibig ng San beda coach na yan!!!! he should be the role model of his players. Some of his players like Menor has my respect as they went to jru's side after the game...yung iba, mga ewan! Mashado nang mayabang ang san beda... makakarma din kayo.

As for JRU's coach, if he really did instruct his boys to foul like that, which has yet to be proven in a tape if there is, then shame on him!

that's it. case closed.

May tanong lang ako sa iyo, may mga JRU players ba na pumunta sa SBC side to shake hands? Bago ka mag-post, mag-isip ka muna and look on both sides of the story. Buti nga e may nagpunta na Bedista sa side ng JRU. Ngayon, kung mayabang ang San Beda, ano ang tawag mo sa mga JRU players?

[excusemyfrench]

^talagang type na type mo suot ni frankie lim ah..

[tsinamanph]

Baduy.....cheap = Jru

[rhk111]

ako rin wala akong class kaya suntukan na lang tayo whitedblued. pm mo sakin address mo at suntukan na lang tayo.

'DUWAG iyan. Di yan pumapatol sa suntukan. Hanggang salita lang i-yan.'

[tsinamanph]

hahaha- di yan duwag

sabi nga ni coach =
"kabaklaan lang yang put@ang in@ng yan!"

[boozer]

tsk...you bedan peole.. why don't you just accept kung may mali sa side nyo!??!?!?! mashado kayong mayabang! may nakita pa akong nakacorporate attire sa beda side...hindi pumasok sa trabaho para manuod lang ng game...haha o.a. naman nun...

on the other haaand, people lilke me or faye fajardo is just in between of this issue... parehong may mali pero mas mabigat kay frankie dahil aside from his annoying get up na shang talagang "KABAKLAAN" (Remember: You are WHAT YOU SAY!!! hahahaha), eh ang dumi ng bunganga parang walang pinagaralan!


No need to respond about that corporate attire wearing san beda crowd. "You are what you post" is indeed an understatement for people like you.

Don't you think that if your school did not instigate that complaint against Aljamal together with your players acting like thugs on the court, will the so-called "mali" from our side would be present?

Learn to read from the previous posts so trolls like you won't be taking up webspace. You're not contributing a tiny bit of sense in this discussion.

How I wish you are still in high school so I can firmly understand what you are trying to address.

[Sky_GOD]

Here's my two cents on the JRU and SBC game. What JRU did was wrong period! Sure this is a physical game but the physicality of it has limits and as players JRU cannot make excuses for they are well aware that they went overboard.. I suggest JRU to learn the sport and try not to get confuse with basketball and AMATEUR WRESTLING

As for the coach of San Beda.. I can understand the reaction.. A parent would react the same way if he's kid is getting pounded. But may I remind you sir that you are a coach.. Your players look up to you.. And students look up to your players... you do not want to give the message that what you did was OK coz its not. It is true that your players showed class but I could not say the same for you sir. Your words and end game antics showed why you lost your "class" that day.

GLORY!!! for the RED and GOLD...

[pgma]

Let's all be level-headed about these. Lim makes an allegation that the players were instructed by the coach. Does he have proof of this? Does he have a tape of Vanguardia instructing his players to play dirty against San Beda? Bumping the JRU coach in the hallway is unprofessional whether the coach instructed the players or not. Using words like "suntukan na lang", "kabaklaan" on national TV shows lack of maturity as a coach. Perhaps if he had more experience in coaching he may have shown a more mature disposition . He totally lost his poise. Let's call a spade a spade. On the other hand, if Vanguardia indeed instructed his players to rough-house the beda players shame on him. If he did, hopefully it can be proven and that he be suspended. This should be the penalty and not to be bumped and challenged to a fistfight. That's just immature.


does coach frankie accused jru coach in the first place? of what? did u hear him said that "coach ariel instructed his boys to play rough?" do u know the reason why coach frankie suddenly gone mad?


coach frankie said that he don't mind jru play physical. that's clear.

my take:
at the very least. coach fattie should have reprimanded his players who did the deliberate fouls. 3 of them.

since that didn't happen.... you can see the kind of character (if he has any) that this mentor is imparting to his players and the viewing public. If I have a son playing for him...I'll pull him out.

all basketbraul ... no values... baboy sobra!

[dirtbmx]

may pagka - brutal nga ang depensa ng JRU! Napanuod ko sa tv!
4 unsportmanlike fouls in a game? That's something!

Pero di natin dapat sisihin the whole JRU community, siguro yung basketball team lang nila, coach and the training staff and dapat lang sisihin!

[rhk111]

In a way, I pity the JRU students & faculty who have had to suffer for what their school & basketball team officials did. I think that we should not condemn all of JRU, just those few who insisted on facilitating this scandalous incident involving Aljamal. I think the main villains in this issue are:
- JRU President Chupan ... eheste, Supan;
- JRU's School Officials
- JRU's Basketball Coaching Staff
- JRU fans who know what their Basketball & School Officials did, & instead of condemning it, condone it instead.

Let's leave out those JRU fans who are ashamed of their officials for this incident.

[poloRL222]

Coach frankie did what a father would do for his son physically abused by some lifeless, self-centered players like those of JRU. Imagine 3 UNSPORTSMANLIKE FOUL in 1 Game????? Y’all haters/critics out there!! Try to find out the real score bout what happened before you pitch out all your anger on San Beda! Animo San BEDA!!!

[yvesdrop]

I'm not a bedan but i used to like Beda as a team. I used to cheer for them too. But since the arrogant Frankie Lim took over I stayed away.

First, Frankie is not even a good coach. With a team like Beda, even the lausiest coach could bring it to final four or even to the finals.

Frankie's kanto boy behavior in the court was shameful. What arrogance! Is it because he has the backing of MVP? So what if the game has become physical? Talk to the refs if you think they are not calling the flagrant fouls. But they did, and JRU suffered heavily on the penalty. And the fouls, flagrant they may be but I don't believe those were really meant to hurt. The coach must know how to make adjustments. Fact is Frankie doesn't know how to coach. He'd rather start a fight. He could have started a real messy situation.

It was never like this under Koy. Sorry. You can be humble without losing your pride.

[algem]

uy baka nagtatampo si stone collector.. wag kayo ganyan hehehe
:rotflmao: wag kayo maingay, naihi sa kahihiyan. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

[rfmafia]

^^^ Come on Kanto-boy, Coach Frankie is not arrogant, maangas lang kasi BEDISTA eh. There is a thin line that separates these two adjectives. Kung ikaw eh magsusumbong sa kung sino mang pontio pilato pag binugbog ang mga anak mo, si Coach Frankie hindi. Ibahin mo ang angas ng isang Bedista brad.. Kung may problema ka pa, kausapin mo na lang mga abugado namin. Nyahaha!

[Sky_GOD]

^ This is exactly what I meant.. coach Lim in a way gave the Bedan community or at least this guy the right to think that what he did was correct. c'mon... I can understand that you will side with Lim in this issue but as an individual who's watching just for the love of the game you have got to admit that you cannot justify what he did.. I'm not against Beda I even admire them for they have a strong and powerful basketball team. But this is basketball and not San Beda ball.. a coach should not act the way Lim acted..

[attyatlast]

^^How about Vanguardia, is he acting the way a good coach should be? He allowed his players to play dirty the whole time.In fact Vanguardia tolerated this tactics...How is that for a good coach?.Whereas Coach lim....He just reacted from a very bad foul.Kita mo ba yung pictures dito.?

[rfmafia]

Sky: ^^^ Who do you think you are? One piece of advice bro, better get out from the veils of your righteous projections and be proud to be a JRU alumni. Besides, hopia business is a profitable one. Nyahaha. Nagmamagaling amp.. *okay*

[liontamer]

The problem with some people here is that they see coach Frankie's sincere "parental" actions as an opportunity to justify their San Beda hating ways. Kunwari pang observer lang. If they really were observers they would have also discussed the root cause of all of this... the MALICIOUS protest sponsored by JRU.

These so called "observers" deliberately disregard that episode and instead single out Frankie Lim.

I wonder what these people would do if they would see one of their kids, their siblings or a family member being bullied or physically abused by another individual? The world is so full of hypocrites.

[Sky_GOD]

^ again I do not agree with the way JRU played yesterdays game... flagrant fouls were called and JRU paid for their nasty doings... they lost because they played vicious basketball.. coach and players deserves all the blame..

but what I am trying to point out is Lim made a mistake "also". he said they showed class.. I can see that from his players but not from him.. thats all I'm trying to point out..

[Sky_GOD]

Sky: ^^^ Who do you think you are? One piece of advice bro, better get out from the veils of your righteous projections and be proud to be a JRU alumni. Besides, hopia business is a profitable one. Nyahaha. Nagmamagaling amp.. *okay*

see here.. I'm not from JRU I'm an Alumni of the soon to be final four opponent of your mighty lion... I'm not trying to single out coach Lim for this one.. I did watch the game and even watched the replay and to me for a coach to act like the way he acted is way out of line... if coach leo will do the same and you guys speak ur mind about it then well and good... in the end.. be you be a cardinal or a lion were just watching the same basketball game...

[liontamer]

^ again I do not agree with the way JRU played yesterdays game... flagrant fouls were called and JRU paid for their nasty doings... they lost because they played vicious basketball.. coach and players deserves all the blame..

but what I am trying to point out is Lim made a mistake "also". he said they showed class.. I can see that from his players but not from him.. thats all I'm trying to point out..

Noted. But the problem is you're singling out Frankie's actions as if it were totally independent and not an offshoot of what JRU did not only during the game but, and more importantly, before the game.

You do not understand, let alone acknowledge, the circumstances that led to Frankie's reaction. The flagrant fouls of JRU are just frills in this issue. The real issue here is JRU is maligning the Bedan community by maliciously sabotaging the team's campaign. And that is what made Frankie fuming mad.

Honestly, if I were in Lim's shoes and seeing my players getting hit left and right I would've have done the same so called "mistake" as you claim it to be. Moreover, if standing up for something right is wrong then I'd gladly take it just to prove a point. At the end of the day its the respect of his players that immediately matters to Lim and I'm sure given how he defended them yesterday there's no question that he suceeded there.

[ill_behaviour]

maraming hindi makaintindi kasil di naman sila bedista. maraming nakiki epal! suntukan na lang!

[pgma]

^ again I do not agree with the way JRU played yesterdays game... flagrant fouls were called and JRU paid for their nasty doings... they lost because they played vicious basketball.. coach and players deserves all the blame..

but what I am trying to point out is Lim made a mistake "also". he said they showed class.. I can see that from his players but not from him.. thats all I'm trying to point out..



if you r in the shoes of coach frankie, what will u do? c'mon tell us..

papa cute?

we have a different definition of "class". :)

[ai#3]

Nakatikim ng angas ng Bedista si hopia baboy.haha! tama lang sa kanya yun! nagmukang UIol tuloy ang mokong sa timeout na tinawag ni Lim nung last 13 seconds habang si Lim kumaen nalang ng candy. Di mo kasi basta bastang magaganon ang defending champions. talunin nyo dapat ng patas. ayan, naangasan pa tuloy si hopia baboy.

[thepacifier]

pmga: If i'm in frankie lim's shoes? as in literal? i heard he wears exagerrated pointed shoes at games? kabaklaan ba yan!

[ai#3]

^ balita ko muntik daw katayin ni Lim si hopia baboy gamit ang sapatos nya. hihihi!

[pgma]

@thepacifier
haay naku! another pa cute :D
oh...a newbie...*** si stone collector noh?
i understand where u came from...ok lang yan. release your anger.
mahirap **** ang asar talo :D hindi naman sayo naka address *** tanong eh. from jru ka nga :D

bwahahahahaha.

hey, can u confirm...coach fattie urinate in his pants daw? is it true?

[rfmafia]

see here.. I'm not from JRU I'm an Alumni of the soon to be final four opponent of your mighty lion... I'm not trying to single out coach Lim for this one.. I did watch the game and even watched the replay and to me for a coach to act like the way he acted is way out of line... if coach leo will do the same and you guys speak ur mind about it then well and good... in the end.. be you be a cardinal or a lion were just watching the same basketball game...

So what's your point then? You keep on yapping and yapping but your aguments are non-sense and without substance. Coach Frankie's act is just an example of a diligence of a good father of a family. He just tried to protect his players, plain and simple. It may be rude to some extent, the way you see it, but still the guy got balls. Bedista eh. *okay*

[attyatlast]

^^ parang Oblicon pala itong si coach frankie....hehehe

Panalo tayo, talo sila......ang saya saya.

[Sky_GOD]

Noted. But the problem is you're singling out Frankie's actions as if it were totally independent and not an offshoot of what JRU did not only during the game but, and more importantly, before the game.

You do not understand, let alone acknowledge, the circumstances that led to Frankie's reaction. The flagrant fouls of JRU are just frills in this issue. The real issue here is JRU is maligning the Bedan community by maliciously sabotaging the team's campaign. And that is what made Frankie fuming mad.

Honestly, if I were in Lim's shoes and seeing my players getting hit left and right I would've have done the same so called "mistake" as you claim it to be. Moreover, if standing up for something right is wrong then I'd gladly take it just to prove a point. At the end of the day its the respect of his players that immediately matters to Lim and I'm sure given how he defended them yesterday there's no question that he suceeded there.

just for the record... I am well aware of the Aljamal being suspended for the rest of the season.. I side with the bedan community and condone such black propaganda by JRU... as for MANCOMM there is really no need for such foolish actions being done during this late stage in the tournament.

with the coach Lim Issue... I'm going to quote you on this one "if I were in Lim's shoes and seeing my players getting hit left and right I would've have done the same so called "mistake" as you claim it to be." <--This is exactly what i was trying to get across... coach Lim did what he thought was right.. he acted like how a father would react... I'm sure that he earned the respect of some like you say he did.. but he also raised some eyebrows...


So what's your point then? You keep on yapping and yapping but your aguments are non-sense and without substance. Coach Frankie's act is just an example of a diligence of a good father of a family. He just tried to protect his players, plain and simple. It may be rude to some extent, the way you see it, but still the guy got balls. Bedista eh. *okay*

NCAA is not compose of San Beda alone...you cannot stop us in giving our two cents with had happened... I'm not trying to instigate something with what I said about how coach Lim acted... all I'm trying to say is he is "also" made a mistake.. I can understand if you would not see things the way I see them.. school pride is something that will forever burn in our hearts..

GLORY!!! for the RED and GOLD.

[DonLabaro]

mga rizalians..

stop arguin' with bedan people..

hindi kayo mananalo jan.
kahit ateneo or lasalle sa ibang mga forum na nabasa ko..
binabangga nila..

no say na lang tayo..

let them be what they want themselves to be..

peace men!

hoping for a nice match this august 31st..

_________________
ARRIBA LETRAN!

wow.. so much for the San Beda - Letran brotherhood
among all schools who I thought would understand our side
so much for us defending each other
and complementing each other
in our 1st round encounter

what would you feel if this happened to LETRAN???

anyway, let the Lawyers do the talking
yet let me give you a thought

IF THEY CAN DO THIS TO US
THEY CAN DO IT TO YOU

[DonLabaro]

...................................

[DonLabaro]

just for the record... I am well aware of the Aljamal being suspended for the rest of the season.. I side with the bedan community and condone such black propaganda by JRU... as for MANCOMM there is really no need for such foolish actions being done during this late stage in the tournament.

with the coach Lim Issue... I'm going to quote you on this one "if I were in Lim's shoes and seeing my players getting hit left and right I would've have done the same so called "mistake" as you claim it to be." <--This is exactly what i was trying to get across... coach Lim did what he thought was right.. he acted like how a father would react... I'm sure that he earned the respect of some like you say he did.. but he also raised some eyebrows...




NCAA is not compose of San Beda alone...you cannot stop us in giving our two cents with had happened... I'm not trying to instigate something with what I said about how coach Lim acted... all I'm trying to say is he is "also" made a mistake.. I can understand if you would not see things the way I see them.. school pride is something that will forever burn in our hearts..

GLORY!!! for the RED and GOLD.

thanks for the support pare
I know, coach Frankie Lim may have went over board

but the main issue here
is the tactics of JRU
What would you feel if MANCOM decides
to suspend Kelvin just because he played in the PBA rookie camp
and you'd see players like Najorda and Espinas in the PBA

To the other NCAA schools
please hear our side of the story
some of you may have been carried away by the reaction
of our coach, but the main issue here is what they have done to
our team's captian...

yes, the NCAA is not composed of San Beda alone
but San Beda is not composed of Frankie Lim either...

what would the Letran community feel if MANCOM
decides to suspend RJ Jazul
or for you guys Delapena

FOUL.. sobrang FOUL ginawa nila...

[billbordzz]

on the lighter side of things...

*** ginawa daw ng mga players ng JRU ay practice lang ng kanilang choreography para sa movie na gagawin ni coach vanguardia para sa isang filmfest...

title "V for Vanguardia!" :P

[DonLabaro]

Let justice prevail over the unjust, immoral and discriminatory.

ANIMO SAN BEDA

[thepacifier]

I'm not a bedan but i used to like Beda as a team. I used to cheer for them too. But since the arrogant Frankie Lim took over I stayed away.

First, Frankie is not even a good coach. With a team like Beda, even the lausiest coach could bring it to final four or even to the finals.

Frankie's kanto boy behavior in the court was shameful. What arrogance! Is it because he has the backing of MVP? So what if the game has become physical? Talk to the refs if you think they are not calling the flagrant fouls. But they did, and JRU suffered heavily on the penalty. And the fouls, flagrant they may be but I don't believe those were really meant to hurt. The coach must know how to make adjustments. Fact is Frankie doesn't know how to coach. He'd rather start a fight. He could have started a real messy situation.

It was never like this under Koy. Sorry. You can be humble without losing your pride.


TRUE. I DEFINITELY AGREE ON THIS.

[thepacifier]

I'm not a bedan but i used to like Beda as a team. I used to cheer for them too. But since the arrogant Frankie Lim took over I stayed away.

First, Frankie is not even a good coach. With a team like Beda, even the lausiest coach could bring it to final four or even to the finals.

Frankie's kanto boy behavior in the court was shameful. What arrogance! Is it because he has the backing of MVP? So what if the game has become physical? Talk to the refs if you think they are not calling the flagrant fouls. But they did, and JRU suffered heavily on the penalty. And the fouls, flagrant they may be but I don't believe those were really meant to hurt. The coach must know how to make adjustments. Fact is Frankie doesn't know how to coach. He'd rather start a fight. He could have started a real messy situation.

It was never like this under Koy. Sorry. You can be humble without losing your pride.


TRUE. I DEFINITELY AGREE ON THIS.

[DonLabaro]

^AGAIN

FRANKIE LIM DOES NOT COMPRISE SAN BEDA
Franki's behaviour may be uncalled for
BUT IF YOU'D COMPARE HIS ACTIONS
TO THE ACTIONS OF
MANCOM AND THE JRU PLAYERS IN THE JRU-BEDA GAME
Frankie Lim's faults wont even come close....


BOTTOM LINE
MANCOM AND THE JRU PLAYERS STARTED THE DIRTY TACTICS

YAN ANG PAG-ISIPAN NIYO AND DONT DEVIATE THE ISSUE TO LIM...
Dame niyo sinasabi kay Frankie Lim ni hinid niyo ma scrutinize ang MANCOM.. mga TUTA

FACE THE FACTS
FACE REALITY

[ggow_miles]

JRU's moved was self-interest, hindi ba aware ang Mancom na si Aljamal is graduating and supposedly going in the PBA, it was very public, what i dont understand is the timing of the suspension issue, im thinking that if the original sked between JRU-Letran game happened which supposed to be last wednesday, would you think this issue will come out? Even the Policy Board overruled the Mancom's decision of suspending Aljamal, baseless.

Lim was right when he said kung gusto niyo kaming talunin, gawin nila sa court at hindi sa board meetings. There's nothing wrong with Lim's action, maybe he is so mad, he wants to explode, just like what happened to coach Alas last season.
_____________________________


win Letran beat Baste

[fibz007]

Playing fair

By Ronnie Nathanielsz
ManilaStandardToday.com
24 August 2007

WHEN we switched to Studio 23 to watch the San Beda-Jose Rizal University game last Tuesday, we were pleasantly surprised to see Red Lion’s hotshot Yousif Aljamal in action since the league’s so-called management committee had banned him for the rest of the season.

The reasons cited was Aljamal’s failure to inform the Mancom of his entry into the Philippine Basketball Association Annual Draft and apparently for his participation in games, which were part of the Rookie Camp activities.

For a moment, we thought that good sense had prevailed and the National Collegiate Athletic Association realized its mistake and let the young man play. Instead, it turned out that San Beda obtained a Temporary Restraining Order, which enabled Aljamal to play in what was a crucial game to Jose Rizal University in its bid to earn a place in the Final Four.

To begin with, the attempt by management committees or boards of governors to interfere in the operations of any leagues goes against the grain of ensuring fairness and integrity, since team owners or their representatives obviously have partisan and selfish interests to protect. This is true of the PBA, PBL, UAAP, NCAA or any other league for that matter. That is why the leagues appoint commissioners, who are presumably fair-minded individuals, who don’t favor any team and have no particular interests other than the good of the league as a whole.

“Think League” was the cry of the late, well-loved PBA commissioner Jun Bernardino, who followed the path of independence and fairness, which were espoused by his eminent predecessors and mentors Leo Prieto and Rudy Salud.

The fact that JRU, the host of this year’s NCAA, was playing San Beda in a game that meant so much to them and stood to benefit from the ban on Aljamal made a mockery of the concept of fairness and sportsmanship that we presume is inculcated in the youth by our educational institutions. Whether JRU influenced the Mancom or not is immaterial, because whether they like it not, it looked in very poor taste. Besides, it didn’t speak well of the NCAA itself especially since Aljamal was a key player and proved it beyond doubt in Tuesday’s (sic) game.

The resort to the courts as a means of obtaining justice in a sporting environment runs counter to the very essence of the philosophy that games should be won or lost on the hardcourt or the playing field and never in board rooms, where personal interests override the good of the league. Beyond that, it sets a disturbing trend that all genuine lovers of sport should guard against.

Of course, San Beda was left with no choice but to seek redress in the courts for what seemed like a terrible injustice both to the team and the player by the NCAA management committee, which should, in the first place, merely set the goals and the guidelines and allow its commissioner to run the league and decide on issues of eligibility, violation of rules, etc.

Aljamal had an inherent right to join the PBA Draft and there is no earthly reason why he should have been severely penalized for not informing the NCAA other than it being an act of courtesy. That he played in the Rookie Camp games as a basis for the disqualification rings hollow. The games were not part of a sanctioned tournament and was merely an attempt to size up the skills of the amateur players in the draft.

In the end, Aljamal played, San Beda won as expected despite a pathetic effort of JRU to play dirty at times, which incurred the ire of coach Frankie Lim, and JRU was embarrassed, not so much because they lost but how they tried to win.

http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=sports8_aug24_2007

[oisinoid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVZXsAkLeFs by pk

[stone collector]

for you info!!!

hindi luluhod ang MANCOM sa player!! di nyo ba alam
ang salitang RESPETO!!

sorry na lang kayo!!!JRU ang nakaupo ngayon

na di kayang bilhin ng PERA!!!:naughty:


iyan ang RIZAL spirit!!!

JRU-BOMBERS chin-up!! be proud!!!

[antoine666]

LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVZXsAkLeFs


CREDITS TO THE FF:

1. Coach Hopiang Baboy HOGuardia - for calling the shots and masterminding the plays. for hiding behind his hopia robots and soiling his pants from the verbal abuse he received. Also for the free hopiang baboy after each practice wherein the ingredients used is derived from his gut. eeeww!

2. Bchemist - for strength conditioning, agility, endurance, some backdoor action, shot of steroids.. etc. of the players, none of these deadly accurate maneuvers would have been possible to execute without the necessary upper body strength or so she says.. only the cream of the crap can make that possible in weeks! (would you believe that crap?)

3. none other than the stars: Hopia Bummers - for being sooo dumb to not know what is the right thing to do and blindly follows their coaches evil deeds.

4. Paul Supsupan (who else!?) - the greatest sixth man of them all, who would search heaven and hell, move mountains, swim oceans, slew lions, make up false rules and by-laws, scheme evil plans, bake hopia, look despicable, be arrogant, get hysterical over an impending defeat, look pathetic, cry :mecry:, troop to the red army gallery to intimidate some kids but only to cower in fear in the end. all sacrifices for the love of the game, goodwill, sportsmanship, transparency, for his beloved hopias and to line his pocket.

care to include more?

[boozer]

Don't you think that the reason for the possible scrapping of the 83rd season was done on purpose to overshadow what happened yesterday?

I have yet to read on paper the suspension slapped against JRU for bench clearing and the UFC-style fouls made by their players. The only thing I've been seeing on the net and on paper is about the TRO filed by San Beda.

Assured na yata kayo sa 3rd spot unless Letran would lose their remaining games. Nasa Final Four na kayo diba? O sinadya nyo lang talagang manakit nang ibang manlalaro para lang makalamang?

Iwan na iwan na nga ang NCAA sa UAAP, lalo nyo pa ibabaon.

I think the battle cry relive 72@2kt should be LET'S WIN AT ALL COST @ 83.

Galing talaga ng JRU.

[tsinamanph]

Playing fair
By Ronnie Nathanielsz ( Manila Standard)

WHEN we switched to Studio 23 to watch the San Beda-Jose Rizal University game last Tuesday, we were pleasantly surprised to see Red Lion’s hotshot Yousif Aljamal in action since the league’s so-called management committee had banned him for the rest of the season.

The reasons cited was Aljamal’s failure to inform the Mancom of his entry into the Philippine Basketball Association Annual Draft and apparently for his participation in games, which were part of the Rookie Camp activities.

For a moment, we thought that good sense had prevailed and the National Collegiate Athletic Association realized its mistake and let the young man play. Instead, it turned out that San Beda obtained a Temporary Restraining Order, which enabled Aljamal to play in what was a crucial game to Jose Rizal University in its bid to earn a place in the Final Four.

To begin with, the attempt by management committees or boards of governors to interfere in the operations of any leagues goes against the grain of ensuring fairness and integrity, since team owners or their representatives obviously have partisan and selfish interests to protect. This is true of the PBA, PBL, UAAP, NCAA or any other league for that matter. That is why the leagues appoint commissioners, who are presumably fair-minded individuals, who don’t favor any team and have no particular interests other than the good of the league as a whole.

“Think League” was the cry of the late, well-loved PBA commissioner Jun Bernardino, who followed the path of independence and fairness, which were espoused by his eminent predecessors and mentors Leo Prieto and Rudy Salud.

The fact that JRU, the host of this year’s NCAA, was playing San Beda in a game that meant so much to them and stood to benefit from the ban on Aljamal made a mockery of the concept of fairness and sportsmanship that we presume is inculcated in the youth by our educational institutions. Whether JRU influenced the Mancom or not is immaterial, because whether they like it not, it looked in very poor taste. Besides, it didn’t speak well of the NCAA itself especially since Aljamal was a key player and proved it beyond doubt in Tuesday’s game.

The resort to the courts as a means of obtaining justice in a sporting environment runs counter to the very essence of the philosophy that games should be won or lost on the hardcourt or the playing field and never in board rooms, where personal interests override the good of the league. Beyond that, it sets a disturbing trend that all genuine lovers of sport should guard against.

Of course, San Beda was left with no choice but to seek redress in the courts for what seemed like a terrible injustice both to the team and the player by the NCAA management committee, which should, in the first place, merely set the goals and the guidelines and allow its commissioner to run the league and decide on issues of eligibility, violation of rules, etc.

Aljamal had an inherent right to join the PBA Draft and there is no earthly reason why he should have been severely penalized for not informing the NCAA other than it being an act of courtesy. That he played in the Rookie Camp games as a basis for the disqualification rings hollow. The games were not part of a sanctioned tournament and was merely an attempt to size up the skills of the amateur players in the draft.

In the end, Aljamal played, San Beda won as expected despite a pathetic effort of JRU to play dirty at times, which incurred the ire of coach Frankie Lim, and JRU was embarrassed, not so much because they lost but how they tried to win.

[tsinamanph]

^^ posted again...:):):)

[motuphils]

for you info!!!

hindi luluhod ang MANCOM sa player!! di nyo ba alam
ang salitang RESPETO!!

sorry na lang kayo!!!JRU ang nakaupo ngayon

na di kayang bilhin ng PERA!!!:naughty:


iyan ang RIZAL spirit!!!

JRU-BOMBERS chin-up!! be proud!!!

stone collector,

1. We know what respect means. And we know that MANCOM didn't give us due respect when they barred Aljamal from playing the rest of the remaining games this season, due to baseless reasons.

2. Hindi talaga luluhod ang MANCOM sa player. Sa mga lawyers, buong San Beda community at iba pang kasapi ng NCAA sila mananagot kung saka-sakali.

3. Do you honestly believe what you've just said? "sorry na lang kayo at JRU ang nakaupo". Can you explain what you meant by that?

I thought you said in your previous posts that the decision to ban Aljamal isn't JRU's decision alone? So now, you are acknowledging that all these can be traced back to JRU?

Thanks for pointing that out. Now we know. *okay*

4. Bedans are good businessmen. They know where to invest their money and certainly we won't even pay a single cent to win a case over MANCOM or JRU. We play fair and square.

So much for "Rizal Spirit". He might be turning in his grave right now.

Choose your words stone collector. I still believe you have some sense left in you. Kinukuyog ka na nga dito, sige ka pa din. Have pity on yourself.

Sige ka, baka masabihan ka ni Ate Ada.*okay*

[red_eagle]

LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVZXsAkLeFs


CREDITS TO THE FF:

1. Coach Hopiang Baboy HOGuardia - for calling the shots and masterminding the plays. for hiding behind his hopia robots and soiling his pants from the verbal abuse he received. Also for the free hopiang baboy after each practice wherein the ingredients used is derived from his gut. eeeww!

2. Bchemist - for strength conditioning, agility, endurance, some backdoor action, shot of steroids.. etc. of the players, none of these deadly accurate maneuvers would have been possible to execute without the necessary upper body strength or so she says.. only the cream of the crap can make that possible in weeks! (would you believe that crap?)

3. none other than the stars: Hopia Bummers - for being sooo dumb to not know what is the right thing to do and blindly follows their coaches evil deeds.

4. Paul Supsupan (who else!?) - the greatest sixth man of them all, who would search heaven and hell, move mountains, swim oceans, slew lions, make up false rules and by-laws, scheme evil plans, bake hopia, look despicable, be arrogant, get hysterical over an impending defeat, look pathetic, cry :mecry:, troop to the red army gallery to intimidate some kids but only to cower in fear in the end. all sacrifices for the love of the game, goodwill, sportsmanship, transparency, for his beloved hopias and to line his pocket.

care to include more?


I'd give more credits to Bchemist. After all, according to him his services are free. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

[billbordzz]

want to add one more thing... wala palang karapatan ang MANCOMM to issue suspensions... dapat *** NCAA commissioner ang gumawa non... tsktsk...

so ang talagang nagviolate ng rules ay ang MANCOMM mismo for overriding its own rules and for being so unfair to Aljamal...

obligations lang pala ng mancomm ay mag-set ng rules and guidelines and not to sanction penalties...hay... sinira ng todo ng JRU ang pangalan ng NCAA...

[stone collector]

stone collector,

1. We know what respect means. And we know that MANCOM didn't give us due respect when they barred Aljamal from playing the rest of the remaining games this season, due to baseless reasons.

2. Hindi talaga luluhod ang MANCOM sa player. Sa mga lawyers, buong San Beda community at iba pang kasapi ng NCAA sila mananagot kung saka-sakali.

3. Do you honestly believe what you've just said? "sorry na lang kayo at JRU ang nakaupo". Can you explain what you meant by that?

I thought you said in your previous posts that the decision to ban Aljamal isn't JRU's decision alone? So now, you are acknowledging that all these can be traced back to JRU?

Thanks for pointing that out. Now we know. *okay*

4. Bedans are good businessmen. They know where to invest their money and certainly we won't even pay a single cent to win a case over MANCOM or JRU. We play fair and square.

So much for "Rizal Spirit". He might be turning in his grave right now.

Choose your words stone collector. I still believe you have some sense left in you. Kinukuyog ka na nga dito, sige ka pa din. Have pity on yourself.

Sige ka, baka masabihan ka ni Ate Ada.*okay*



KATAKOT NAMAN ANG REPLY MO ANG DAMI :lol:

. Do you honestly believe what you've just said? "sorry na lang kayo at JRU ang nakaupo". Can you explain what you meant by that?


oo sorry na lang kayo at JRU ang nakaupo NA HEAD NG MANCOM!! dahil kung iba yun baka walang nangyari sa petition namin!!

pero i doubt pa rin maski sino siguro nakaupo sa MANCON huwag lang beda ganoon pa rin ang mangyayari.

nagsasalita ako dahil yun ang opinion ko!
kung unguyan ang gusto ng iba dito! di unguyan na lang!! nakakawala rin kasi ng stress yun!! :lol:
pero di sa point na i will violate pex's rule

[fely_fajardo]

Bedans I'll try to play devil's advocate here because I'm a little confused. I understand the passion and emotion of the beda community especially when they think one of their top players is being targeted.
Now, is there really no rule? I think MANCOM is claiming that there is a rule or requirement that if any NCAA player of a sport will play (in the same sport) a tournament, contest, league, OR GAME, the permission of MANCOM is required. Ito ang sinasabi ng MANCOM. Clearly Aljamal played in a GAME I guess sponsored by the PBA. Even Advani admits to it when he said exhibition GAME lang iyon. Also it looks like all the previous similar situations involving CSB, Letran, Baste, PCU players and representatives sought the permission of MANCOM. The apparent overlooking of this requirement is difficult to justify because there is no precedence. Lahat humingi ng permisison - Aban, Bautista, Salvacion, Espinas, etc.
Then ang usual recourse pag hindi agree sa MANCOM's desisyon dapat sa policy board mag-a-appeal. In fact it looks like the policy board was in disagreement with the MANCOM decision. Instead of this bakit naman sa korte pumunta hindi sa policy board? I am not on JRU's side. In fact if they conspired this whole thing shame on them but we can't objectively prove this. I'm just looking at the MANCOM side and it looks like their claims has some legitimacy and should not just be dismissed.
Ngayon (bedans huwag kayong magalit sa akin), hindi ba all these could have been avoided if only Aljamal and his reps went to MANCOM or called MANCOM and advised them that ALjamal will play in this exhibition game just like previous players in his situation did? Napakahirap ba itong gawin? I'm scratching my head.
Anyway, I'll stop now I know the bedans are emotional. I just wish Aljamal will play come August 31 and just like the first contest let's hope it will be as exciting.

Animo San Beda!
Arriba Letran !

[toti mendiola]

Mang_Roger's post in gameface

Re: Yousif Aljamal
« Reply #147 on: Today at 08:24:15 AM »

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Quote from: 5FootCarrot on August 23, 2007, 02:46:06 PM
Quote from: datu_pula on August 23, 2007, 11:56:09 AM
1. No permission from NCAA Mancom prior to draft application.
2. He participated in other basketball games while NCAA basketball tournament is on-going.
#1, is there anything in the league rules about needing to ask permission? If (before the ManCom brought it up out of the blue) the league allowed PBA draftees to continue competing in the NCAA after they applied for the draft, why should they require that they be notified when in principle, they don't care?

None. Nowhere in the rule books of the NCAA wherein you can find that a player must secure a permission from the league before he joins a PBA draft. In fine, Aljamal was penalized based on a non-existing rule.

Even assuming that there is a rule, disqualifying a player for the rest of the season is just plain harsh and totally disproportionate to the infraction.



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#2, I thought league rules didn't cover the PBA draft camp stuff. I'm not sure about that, and honestly, I'm scared about this one because the NCAA has some flexibility to define this however they please because not much has been set in writing.

Now this really made things really confusing. Based on the letter of the mancom, Aljamal allegedly "participated in other basketball games while NCAA basketball tournament is on-going". Other basketball games? Does that mean if Aljamal played basketball with his cousins inside their garage, he can also be disqualified from further playing in the NCAA?

Ok let's give the mancom the benefit of the doubt and assume that they refer to "organized" games. However, can we consider the PBA Rookie Camp an "organized" basketball? No. The games played there were merely skirmishes aimed at allowing the draftees to showcase their talents for the agents, scouts and PBA team managements present thereat. Heck! Eddie Soriano even made the most number of push-ups. To quote Mr. Ronnie Nathanielsz:

"That he played in the Rookie Camp games as a basis for the disqualification rings hollow. The games were not part of a sanctioned tournament and was merely an attempt to size up the skills of the amateur players in the draft."


More importantly, there is no written definition as to what is "organized" or a basketball tournament, competition, etc. wherein every school may refer to in order to determine if a certain basketball game is the one refered to by the rule. It practically gave the Mancom the absolute freedom to make the determination after a certain player had already participated therein. Totally absurd!


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I share oca's concerns about San Beda whipping out the lawyers so early in the game (especially, again, when there are no written league rules on which arguments may be based), but I can understand the utility of the TRO as a stopgap measure while the official decision is still pending. I just hope the decision is made soon, and with a minimum of outside arbitration. (Of course, if the league wants to pour income into our legal services sector, I have no problem with that.)

Now I guess I'd better go before someone accuses me, as one of the "taga-Katipunan" despite my Benedictine roots, of meddling in other people's business I think I've said all I want to say here, and saved the rest of it for my blog. But before I go, I do want to say that I hope the league lets Aljamal off without any punishment. I really don't think he should be penalized for anything!

Personally, I'm not in favor of resorting to legal actions in securing redress against any actions of a collegiate league.

However, I find the circumstances sorrounding the case of San Beda so unique that it changed my mind.

As I have mentioned above, Aljamal was penalized based on a non-existing rule (first infraction) and for merely playing a basketball game outside the league. Only a school who has no self respect or dignity would follow such totally groundless and preposterous ruling. It is not only a bitter pill to swallow but it is a pill so big that you cannot even shove it inside an elephant's a$$.

If the other schools are really keen on doing whatever means necessary to prevent San Beda from winning the title, they should have at least thought of a valid, sound and clear basis for such ploy. In case their action will be questioned, they can properly defend their position. Ang problema --WALA!

When Letran secured a TRO in the case of Rodriguez in 2004 to prevent a ruling of the mancom from being implemented, the controversy just died down and the mancom just relented on its effort. How come in the case of San Beda the mancom is really keen on getting back at the former and even threatened to adopt drastic measures such as scrapping the season to counter the actions of San Beda? Bakit sobra ang galit?

Just by reading the letter of the mancom, one can easily observe that it was poorly written. Not only that it failed to mention what specific rule Aljamal violated, it even failed to spell the first name of Aljamal correctly. I presume each of the six members were able to read it before signing the same. Geesh!

One more thing, it is quite suspicious why was it dated on the 8th of August? Typo error? I don't think one may inadvertently type a single number instead of a double digit.

to add:

kung permiso lang pala eh di dapat nung malayo pa lang ang draft eh mano ba namang sinabihan lang nila sa yousif ng "hoy bata di ka pa nagpapaalam sa amin hah". Yousif is ncaa's own, the league is a nominal figure that helps in values formation of its athletes thru sports. Ang lumalabas eh wala silang malasakit sa mga miyembro o atleta ng NCAA.

Ito pa isa kaya talagang sinister ang dating sa akin ng suspension na iyan eh.

If the letter was dated aug. 8 and distributed to the committee members for them to sign eh di dapat nalaman ni fr. paul yang bagay na iyan at siguradong i a advise niya si yousif tungkol sa supposed violation or infraction niya.

A sin of omission and not of commission.
Pinarusahan siya ng dahil wala siyang ginawang permiso..

[mighty_lion]

Fely - Just look at this timeline:

August 8, 2007 - Letter of Mancom suspending Aljamal

August 15-17, 2007 - PBA Training Camp

August 19, 2007 - PBA Draft

August 21, 2007 - SBC received the Memo suspending Aljamal in the afternoon. (Take note that the memo is dated Aug 8)

August 22, 2007 - SBC got a TRO to allow Aljamal to play. The Red Lions defeated JRU.

August 24, 2007 - News about the possible scrapping of the 83rd NCAA season.

August 25, 2007 - The news of possible scrapping the otherday was negated. There was no such statement from Mancom. Sinungaling na pala mga sportswriters natin ngayon. Take note "sportwriters."

They played hide and seek game here. Parang police sa me kabilang stop light na magtatago at ttyempuhan ka para hulihin. They should have done preventive measures nung August 8 palang and not wait for Rookie Camp and PBA Draft. I would have to agree that it should have been an appeal to the board and due process which San Beda have opted to. But this is a case of "time is of the essence" thats why RL management opted for TRO and legal remedies for such action. Why let Alajamal suffer a suspension while Supan and his cohorts can even explain and give concrete/conclusive statements that would support thier suspension memo in the court. If they cant explain it well on fair grounds inside the court room, what more in the face of the public.

They even came out of an idea of scrapping Season 83 as one of their graceful exit measures. Funny to hear ABS-CBN, immediately acted and threaten sue them for disregarding their 5 year contract. ManCom is creating a way to tag them as the worst NCAA scandal in history.

[nash_bedista]

Malinaw pa lang sa Timeline, planado **** nila, hindi man lang sila nagbigay ng warning or notice sa San Beda. Intentional **** ... tsk3x lumalabas na ang utak Hopia tsk3x :bop:

[CHE_GUEVARRA]

"kabaklaan yang pu$%#@n@## n yan!!! hahahaha

[fely_fajardo]

The letter was written in August 8? tsk tsk tsk. On the surface this looks premeditated. Maari ding typo and it makes sense kung typo-when the intended date was Aug 18 (not Aug 8), the day after the end of the PBA camp.

[boredtoday]

^ and nobody among the 6 signatories demanded that the date be corrected before they signed? these are school presidents, priests and rectors, mind you.

i think it's fair enough to say na ANLALAKI NILANG MGA TANGÄ, at sabay sabay pa silang nagkamali no?

come on, what are the chances?

[mighty_lion]

Here is a copy of suspension memo from ManCom

NATIONAL COLLEGIATE ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION
Host School: Jose Rizal University

For: Fr. Paul de Vera
San Beda College Sports Director

FROM: EFREN JOSE Y. SUPAN
83rd NCAA Chairman

Date: August 8, 2007
_________________________________________

Greetings from the Mancom!

After presentation of facts and deliberations, Mancom arrived unanimously at a decision that the following infractions have been committed by Mr. Youseff (sic) Aljamal:

1. No permission from NCAA Mancom prior to draft application.
2. He participated in other basketball games while NCAA basketball tournament is on-going.

Hence, Mr. Youseff (sic) Aljamal will no longer be allowed to play in NCAA for the remainder of the 83rd NCAA Basketball Season.


For your information and guidance.

Signed:

Fr. Victor C. Calvo, OP
CSJL Mancom

Francisco Gusi
SSC-R Mancom

Michael del Mundo
UPHSD Mancom

Fernando Lozano
MIT Mancom

Henry Atayde
CSB Mancom

Efren Jose Y. Supan
Chairman Mancom

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typo error on the date? maybe.. but just look at how poorly the memo was written. mali pa nga first name ni Aljamal. Take note this was signed and approved by 6 others, di ba nila napansin yong error sa date. The memo did not even bother to indicate what specific NCAA ruling was violated and just jumped over the conclusion.

[nash_bedista]

to Fely,

sa tingin ko hindi mo pwedeng masabing typographical error,

unang una, mesalan yung issue. Ang daming macoconfuse sa Tao espicially yung NCAA fans and fanatics

[pgma]

^^
what do u expect from mr. supan?

mr. supan, c'mon don't make it obvious that ur from jru...u r giving jru a bad name :D

[stone collector]

"kabaklaan yang pu$%#@n@## n yan!!! hahahaha


BAGAY NA BAGAY ANG NAME MO SA IYO!!!!

CHE!!!! CHE!!!! CHE!!!! LECHE!!! (di ba gatas yun!!!) :D

[abcdboy]

Here is a copy of suspension memo from ManCom

NATIONAL COLLEGIATE ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION
Host School: Jose Rizal University

For: Fr. Paul de Vera
San Beda College Sports Director

FROM: EFREN JOSE Y. SUPAN
83rd NCAA Chairman

Date: August 8, 2007
_________________________________________

Greetings from the Mancom!

After presentation of facts and deliberations, Mancom arrived unanimously at a decision that the following infractions have been committed by Mr. Youseff (sic) Aljamal:

1. No permission from NCAA Mancom prior to draft application.
2. He participated in other basketball games while NCAA basketball tournament is on-going.

Hence, Mr. Youseff (sic) Aljamal will no longer be allowed to play in NCAA for the remainder of the 83rd NCAA Basketball Season.


For your information and guidance.

Signed:

Fr. Victor C. Calvo, OP
CSJL Mancom

Francisco Gusi
SSC-R Mancom

Michael del Mundo
UPHSD Mancom

Fernando Lozano
MIT Mancom

Henry Atayde
CSB Mancom

Efren Jose Y. Supan
Chairman Mancom

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typo error on the date? maybe.. but just look at how poorly the memo was written. mali pa nga first name ni Aljamal. Take note this was signed and approved by 6 others, di ba nila napansin yong error sa date. The memo did not even bother to indicate what specific NCAA ruling was violated and just jumped over the conclusion.

Look at the wording. unanimously.
I thought Fr. Paul de Vera was part of the MANCOM. I thought San Beda was part of the MANCOM.:)

[aeon_lure02]

grabe nga ang jru... napanood ko na yun video.. sobrang papangit ng ugali ng players nila... pikon na nanakit pa.. pati coach nila hindi rin maipaliwanag yun ugali... dapat sila parusahan...

for san beda naman ang mali *** nila bakit nila pinabayaan si aljamal na maglaro sa pba... wala naman ako sama ng loob sa san beda.. pero nagkamali sila sa paglabas ni aljamal sa pba...

[boozer]

grabe nga ang jru... napanood ko na yun video.. sobrang papangit ng ugali ng players nila... pikon na nanakit pa.. pati coach nila hindi rin maipaliwanag yun ugali... dapat sila parusahan...

for san beda naman ang mali *** nila bakit nila pinabayaan si aljamal na maglaro sa pba... wala naman ako sama ng loob sa san beda.. pero nagkamali sila sa paglabas ni aljamal sa pba...

is the pba draft camp (not sure if i got this right) considered a tournament?

parang pinalalabas mo na sa statement mo na dapat hindi na namin pinagapply si aljamal sa pba. eh lhalos lahat naman ng players ng ncaa and even the uaap dreams to be part of that league.

hindi pa nagsisimula ang pba. meron din tayong tinatawag na tryouts.

[clark lopez]

No man can think clearly when his fists are clenched.
So If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is a part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us.

RIZALIANS it is better to 'hate to lose' than to 'want to win'.

GO BOMBERS

[tsinamanph]

SAN BEDA EXEC SAYS


‘Bolting NCAA an option’


By Julius Manicad

08/26/2007



As if the troubles hounding the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) were not enough, a ranking San Beda College official yesterday bared the school’s possible withdrawal from the league if no solution is found to diffuse the ongoing case involving ace Red Lion Yousif Aljamal.

The official, however, said although “withdrawal is an option, San Beda will still pursue an amicable ending to the Aljamal case,” which started last week after the league’s Management Committee (Mancom) suspended Aljamal for the season for joining the Philippine Basketball Association’s rookie draft without seeking permission from the NCAA.

The NCAA Mancom decision, however, did not hold. First, it reconsidered the season-long suspension of Aljamal, shortening the sanction to three days which wasn’t served still as San Beda was able to secure a temporary restraining order (TRO) from a Manila court.

San Beda is now seeking a permanent injunction, an action which a ranking league official may drive the NCAA to scrap the ongoing basketball season. But ABS-CBN, the league’s television partner, warned against the cancellation of the season, saying the league may face a possible court case if it turns its back on its contractual obligations with the television firm and their sponsors.

While waiting for a permanent order, San Beda just received a 20-day extension of the TRO, allowing Aljamal to play for the Lions for at least three more weeks.

The league has been beset with numerous problems, including illegal gambling where the National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) had arrested a player and several other personalities for running an illegal gambling ring within the league. On and off-court fights are also a common sight in the NCAA. A player was also found to have falsified his records to be able to play.

For these, a San Beda source revealed school officials are not closing their thoughts on the possibility of transferring to another league.

The Tribune source stressed San Beda is willing to leave the NCAA “only after we teach them a lesson that injustice does not pay.” The school’s administrators will meet soon to make a “crucial decision,” but everything still depends on the outcome of their legal tussle against the country’s oldest collegiate league, the source further said.

For the meantime, San Beda is leaving its fate at the hands of the civil court and the seven-man NCAA Mancom headed by Jose Rizal University’s Paul Supan.

“Isn’t it pretty obvious that they will use all means, fair or foul, just to get ahead?” the source, a San Beda hardliner who begged off to be identified, said. “Leaving the NCAA is always an option but not a priority for now. And it will become an option only after teaching them a lesson that injustice does not pay. If they need the courts to do that, so be it.”

Bannered by Nigerian Sam Ekwe and Aljamal, who averages a team-high 15.2 points per game, the Red Lions enjoy a 9-1 mark entering the final week of the two-round elimination. With the way things go, San Beda is heavily tipped to proceed all the way to its second crown in 29 years. The source, however, said even if the resolution of the case would take long, they are willing to wait, before deciding whether they will stay or go.”

“Don’t they know that we’re willing to go (and wait) all the way even after the championship if needed to be?”

A top basketball official also testified on the veracity of San Beda’s possible action, saying leaving the NCAA has been an open-secret in and around San Beda’s Mendiola campus since the controversy started.

“I always hear about the possibility of bolting out of the NCAA, but I do not know where it came from. Maybe it’s true. Your guess is as good as mine.”

Along with Letran, Ateneo, La Salle , Mapua and JRU, San Beda is an original member of the NCAA when the league opened shop 83 years ago.

[Ferocious Lion]

SAN BEDA EXEC SAYS


‘Bolting NCAA an option’


IF WE ARE FORCED, we shall leave after we clean up the NCAA ranks by getting rid of the cheats, the goons, hoodlums, schemers and all other undesirables by kicking their @sses in court. This is our moral obligation as the only remaining founding member of the NCAA (MIT and JRU are not original members).

And, we shall leave as CHAMPIONS.

[tsinamanph]

^^ perfectly said...

[LeronLeronSinta]

sa mga kaibigan natin sa NCAA, pasensya na kung ang isang taga-UAAP na katulad ko ay manghihimasok sa usapan niyo dito.

naisip ko lang kasi na kung meron lang talagang rules sa NCAA that deal with players who declare that they will join the PBA rookie draft despite having a year or so in playing eligibility similar to what we have in the UAAP, hindi siguro magkakaroon ng ganitong problema. because there seems to be no rule on NCAA players who wish to join the PBA rookie draft, Aljamal did not commit an infraction and should not have been penalized by the NCAA Mancom. what seems to be happening right now is all but pure harassment of San Beda by several groups within the NCAA.

[pgma]

since the elims is almost over, SBC will not face jru until next year. Unless they fall to #4 slot in the F4 or if they are lucky enough...in the championship.

I want RL to face jru in the championship more than the other team.

[red_track]

Julius Manicad, please do your research muna bago ka magsulat ng kung anu-ano.. di naman founding member ang JRC (JRU) e. BASURA SILA!

[aeon_lure02]

is the pba draft camp (not sure if i got this right) considered a tournament?

parang pinalalabas mo na sa statement mo na dapat hindi na namin pinagapply si aljamal sa pba. eh lhalos lahat naman ng players ng ncaa and even the uaap dreams to be part of that league.

hindi pa nagsisimula ang pba. meron din tayong tinatawag na tryouts.

hindi naman ganun yun gusto kong palabasin... look at the title.. diba nakalagay "San Beda Red Lions VS Jose Rizal Bombers" nagcomment lang naman ako sa dalawang team.. hindi ko naman balak ibash ang sbc dun sa statement ko.. saka sinabi ko lang yun observation ko...

peace;)

[DonLabaro]

sa mga kaibigan natin sa NCAA, pasensya na kung ang isang taga-UAAP na katulad ko ay manghihimasok sa usapan niyo dito.

naisip ko lang kasi na kung meron lang talagang rules sa NCAA that deal with players who declare that they will join the PBA rookie draft despite having a year or so in playing eligibility similar to what we have in the UAAP, hindi siguro magkakaroon ng ganitong problema. because there seems to be no rule on NCAA players who wish to join the PBA rookie draft, Aljamal did not commit an infraction and should not have been penalized by the NCAA Mancom. what seems to be happening right now is all but pure harassment of San Beda by several groups within the NCAA.

No problems w/your post UAAP observer...
Apparently our league is being plagued w/controversies
and you are correct, there is no rule in the NCAA that forbids an NCAA player to join the Rookie draft nor be drafted in the PBA.. a "clear" rule that is.
If there is something I envy in your league, its the integrity of your member schools. The most recent controveries in the UAAP involved DLSU fielding ineligible players, which DLSU even amitted and reported to the UAAP Board, and UE suspending Bonifacio Custodio, wherein UE took the inititiative despite their crucial disposition in final four last season.
College Basketball isnt just about winning or losing, its a time for brotherhood and camaraderie. Game fixing and pulling strings to win is something intolerable and defeats the purpose of having intercollegiate games.
Winning isn't Everything!

[antoine666]

for your viewing pleasure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxP_GohsgWE

[stone collector]

IF WE ARE FORCED, we shall leave after we clean up the NCAA ranks by getting rid of the cheats, the goons, hoodlums, schemers and all other undesirables by kicking their @sses in court. This is our moral obligation as the only remaining founding member of the NCAA (MIT and JRU are not original members).

And, we shall leave as CHAMPIONS.


CHAMPIONS? in a very cheap way!!!:D

beda will always be a LOSER in NCAA!!!

hala LAYAS!!!


ganyan talaga ang ginagawa ng magulang sa walang
utang na loob na anak!! lapastangan!! :grrr:

[Ferocious Lion]

^ Can we get someone else from JRU who can talk sense and exchange opinions in a civilized manner?


CHAMPIONS? in a very cheap way!!!:D

beda will always be a LOSER in NCAA!!!

hala LAYAS!!!


ganyan talaga ang ginagawa ng magulang sa walang
utang na loob na anak!! lapastangan!! :grrr:

We understand where your coming from. You want to end your 35 years title drought oh so badly and the Red Lions stand in your way.

One advise - try to win in a dignified and honorable way. A championship won with dignity and honor will be much more gratifying.

*okay*

[excusemyfrench]

JRU doesnt care if they win via killing every player in the league. basta manalo, ayos na. thugs.

[pgma]

CHAMPIONS? in a very cheap way!!!:D

beda will always be a LOSER in NCAA!!!

hala LAYAS!!!


ganyan talaga ang ginagawa ng magulang sa walang
utang na loob na anak!! lapastangan!! :grrr:


o stone collector...galit ka pa rin? naku its not good for your health :D

btw, pls. tell coach ariel to make it good ha. sana naman manalo kayo. otherwise next year na naman magkikita team natin. with all due respect to other team, sana RL vs jru sa finals. ang saya *****.

tell ur coach to bring pampers ha :D

[heavvy_gear_XII]

Marvin Hayes turns me on!!!

[stone collector]

o stone collector...galit ka pa rin? naku its not good for your health :D

btw, pls. tell coach ariel to make it good ha. sana naman manalo kayo. otherwise next year na naman magkikita team natin. with all due respect to other team, sana RL vs jru sa finals. ang saya *****.

tell ur coach to bring pampers ha :D



he..he.. hindi naman, pangtanggal ko lang ito ng stress:lol:

DONT WORRY i will inform coach ariel sa sinabi mo.
and i will pray hard na beda vs jru nga sa finals:D
PARA LALONG MASAYA!!!!

may news bago.. mag-ready na daw kayo humingi ng sorry
sa MANCOM kasi matatalo kayo sa kaso*okay*


BOOM BOOM BOMBERS!!! FIGHT!!!

[boozer]

No need to answer the "stoned" person above. I just pity those level-headed rizalians in this forum.

Why can’t just MANCOM present the rule that was violated? Plain and simple. This could’ve been over if they have proof that we indeed violated a rule. Nakasulat ba sa NCAA rulebook? Wala naman diba? Mr. Atayde of MANCOM has been bragging on the Hardball episode about Yousif joining a tournament. Is the PBA draft camp considered a tournament? Asking permission? Ano yun papaalam kang gumimik?

What has happened to MANCOM? I even thought that the NCAA has better board members as compared the UAAP. I was proved so wrong.

For those level-headed folks who are reading this, kindly read the series of events that transpired before Aljamal’s suspesion/disbarment from the NCAA. Then watch the replay of the San Beda - JRU game. Don’t you think that it’s so one sided?

So much for fair play.

[antoine666]

Marvin Hayes turns me on!!!
dapat lang! di mapagkakailang kamukha ni espinas.

[eklavu]

CHAMPIONS? in a very cheap way!!!:D

beda will always be a LOSER in NCAA!!!

hala LAYAS!!!


ganyan talaga ang ginagawa ng magulang sa walang
utang na loob na anak!! lapastangan!! :grrr:

<<<<<<TALUNAN KA KASE>>>>>>>

naku i i wonder kung lalayas kame nc... e d wala ng glamour sa ncaa?

aminin mo yan.:bop: :bop: :bop:


LOSER daw ohhh??? hahahahahha

[eklavu]

he..he.. hindi naman, pangtanggal ko lang ito ng stress:lol:

DONT WORRY i will inform coach ariel sa sinabi mo.
and i will pray hard na beda vs jru nga sa finals:D
PARA LALONG MASAYA!!!!

may news bago.. mag-ready na daw kayo humingi ng sorry
sa MANCOM kasi matatalo kayo sa kaso*okay*


BOOM BOOM BOMBERS!!! FIGHT!!!

may pangbayad kami ng attorney's fee. sorry ka.

sbc will not let that happen.

bulok kase.

bulok na host....

bulok na sistema

bulok na paaralan

basura JRU!

[stone collector]

may pangbayad kami ng attorney's fee. sorry ka.

sbc will not let that happen.

bulok kase.

bulok na host....

bulok na sistema

bulok na paaralan

basura JRU!



KAWAWA NAMAN!!!!
PUSO MO BAKA ATAKIHIN KA RIN!!!


at ang student hindi bulok!!!
kayo buong san beda bulok!!!

hintayin natin ang result ng kaso!!! yun lang

[ilmer]

hintay ka dyan. panalo na obvious naman e. mag-ingat ka sa mga sinasabi mo baka bigla na lang may kumalabit sayo.

[eklavu]

KAWAWA NAMAN!!!!
PUSO MO BAKA ATAKIHIN KA RIN!!!


at ang student hindi bulok!!!
kayo buong san beda bulok!!!

hintayin natin ang result ng kaso!!! yun lang


hahahahaha

at sinong maniniwala na bulok san beda?

bulok pala ha???? e kayong mga JRU -BASURANG BULOK. (sorry ah)lolz:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

pathetic....

[abbot]

parang twin brother ni hayes si espinas! uncanny resemblance!

[BEESHOP]

he..he.. hindi naman, pangtanggal ko lang ito ng stress:lol:

DONT WORRY i will inform coach ariel sa sinabi mo.
and i will pray hard na beda vs jru nga sa finals:D
PARA LALONG MASAYA!!!!

may news bago.. mag-ready na daw kayo humingi ng sorry
sa MANCOM kasi matatalo kayo sa kaso*okay*


BOOM BOOM BOMBERS!!! FIGHT!!!

huh? eh panong magiging beda jru sa finals...eh hindi naman kayo mananalo sa letran...hahahaha!!! pinapatawa mo kong balasubas ka....

[tsinamanph]

tama na mga tsong - the collector is already banned.

[antoine666]

parang twin brother ni hayes si espinas! uncanny resemblance!

No doubt about that! :)

[pulang leon]

No man can think clearly when his fists are clenched.
So If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is a part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us.

RIZALIANS it is better to 'hate to lose' than to 'want to win'.

GO BOMBERS

Maybe you should fire your coach. Is he a JRU alumni? Obvious naman na inutos ng coach nyo yung unsportsmanlike fouls eh... What he probably told his players is that "they are allowed to have commit one unsportsmanlike foul during the game without being ejected", kaya iyon, sinimulan kaagad ni Cunanan, at sinundan kaagad ng ibat-ibang JRU players... Kung hindi pa minura ni Coach Lim yung Lasalistang coach ninyo, eh hindi pa titigil iyong JRU players. Tignan mo nangyari, naging behave ang JRU players and they all started playing clean like the Red Lions as soon as after Coach Lim got the JRU bench's attention. Ano ba tawag sa La Salle nun? Neknektikano? or "right to rule"? mapa-NCAA o mapa-UAAP, even before up to now, La Salle had always lived up to that rule... "winning at all cost" by doing the batok-sabay-takbo, kidnapping star players who doesn't really want to be a part of their team, to cheating on the eligibility of their green archer players, and the most recent one done by their coach alumni, comitting unsportsmanlike fouls on opponents and inciting a fight with them (like what Nocom did to Ekwe, eh alam naman niya hindi siya papatulan ni Ekwe, and as if naman kaya niya si Ekwe, kaya niya kaya niya iyon kay Taupa? hehehe) lasallians do it just to win at all cost, and believing that they have the right to rule... but they couldn't do it against us... evil rules when la salle rules... and San Beda is always going to be here to take them down where they belong...

Aljamal will not play against Letran and there is a chance that Letran can win again, if they do, San Beda will be second and JRU third, and they will battle each other in the playoffs.. is this what JRU really wanted or have planned? BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR.

[MrLogica]

i think lets just enjoy the remaining games this season..may the best team win..kung sno man ang manalo congratulations...at kung sno man team ang di pinalad..galingan n *** din s susunod n season but still be proud of your school kc they'd still do their best...and besides this is still a game may panalo may talo...and we should all accept that..