UA&P with scholarship or DLSU?

[mara_mallari]

The letter just came in today, UA&P has granted me a 100 percent scholarship. I didn't apply for it but they gave it to me. I don't have to pay the confirmation fee as well as the tuition fee per semester. Knowing that the approximate amount for the UAP's tuition and other fees is 65K per sem, I only have to pay 15K per sem because of this. I also like my program here.

At DLSU's, my course is also good in here. I also have somehow decided to study at DLSU with my first choice of ACM. I'm not bashing here or what, coz DLSU is the best private university in the phils.

Now, I'm having dilemmas.

Which is which? Please state your reasons. Thanks!

[KuyaDanny]

A full scholarship will have a significant impact on the family finances. Before you decide, make sure you consider your parents' views.

[kaningbrown]

If you have the capacity to pay for DLSU, I'd say go for DLSU.

Not to be a **** but I've havent seen too many companies that post "DLSU, UP, UST, ATENEO, and UA&P applicants preferred." It's usually the first four, without the latter.

To be fair though, I only glance at IT related job openings.

I'm not saying UA&P is a bad school. I'm saying it's not established enough to give you as good an advantage as DLSU. All this doesnt apply, however, if you happen to plan working abroad, since university bias doesn't really count for anything.

Also, if you give up that scholarship, some schmoe who might actually need it will be able to avail of the discount. (Though I can only imagine how hard it would be peer pressure-wise to be the only person in class without two cars in your garage)

[Kris_Aquinoo]

Mara mallari,

Tough choice you got there. A full scholarship is always hard to turn down. However, as you said, DLSU is considered as one of the top universities in the Philippines. And personally, I would choose DLSU over UA&P, even with that full scholarship. Why? It's simply because I'm not impressed with the education UA&P has to offer.

[mara_mallari]

A full scholarship will have a significant impact on the family finances. Before you decide, make sure you consider your parents' views.

My dad says go for UA&P because I think he's thinking about how much we can save as for the tuition fee and the course I'm in there but my mom says DLSU since she says it's more popular and its forte is really on business. Haha.

If you have the capacity to pay for DLSU, I'd say go for DLSU.

Not to be a **** but I've havent seen too many companies that post "DLSU, UP, UST, ATENEO, and UA&P applicants preferred." It's usually the first four, without the latter.

To be fair though, I only glance at IT related job openings.

I'm not saying UA&P is a bad school. I'm saying it's not established enough to give you as good an advantage as DLSU. All this doesnt apply, however, if you happen to plan working abroad, since university bias doesn't really count for anything.

Also, if you give up that scholarship, some schmoe who might actually need it will be able to avail of the discount. (Though I can only imagine how hard it would be peer pressure-wise to be the only person in class without two cars in your garage)

Nice. Thanks. I'll tell it to my parents. :)

[mara_mallari]

Mara mallari,

Tough choice you got there. A full scholarship is always hard to turn down. However, as you said, DLSU is considered as one of the top universities in the Philippines. And personally, I would choose DLSU over UA&P, even with that full scholarship. Why? It's simply because I'm not impressed with the education UA&P has to offer.

Haha. Thanks. I still have to convince my dad to let me be in DLSU knowing that UA&P serves that scholarship thing. :)

[christological]

DLSU no doubt... A scholarship would be nice but if you have the capability to pay for the tuition fee of DLSU then go for it because it is worth it. If you're criteria is prestige and employability then La salle is the shool for you. I'm from the Ateneo but my hats are off to the business courses in DLSU. But then again if you want to pursue law then go to the ateneo... LOL kidding. At the end of the day, always remember that the school is only there to guide and it's not everything. It's still you who makes your future. Good luck!

[mara_mallari]

^ aw. an atenean. thanks for the insight. :)

[Stag]

Your dilemma is really a no brainer -- go to UA&P.

Better formation, better environment, etc. Plus....... With the scholarship, UA&P is the clear choice here.

[cla_cbe_d_best]

^^ atenean troll.

listen to Kaningbrown... think of your future. iba pa ren pag alumni ka ng DLSU. ;)

pag sa la salle ka, you'll have UAAP, you meet people from different walks of lives, enjoy the State-in-the-arts facilities, cute boys (though marame den sa UA&P).

[Stag]

UAAP is not that relevant when it comes to one's future career unless one wants to pursue a career in sports.

UA&P with scholarship is clearly the better choice.

1) UA&P is an excellent school for business and economics;
2) UA&P has state-of-the-art facilities;
3) many of your classmates will come from prominent families just like in Ateneo; there are also many scholars in UA&P.
4) UA&P has a stronger liberal arts based core curriculum that's better than DLSU's; UA&P offers a more holistic education.
5) the Opus Dei as a group is better than the Christian Brothers when it comes to character formation, moral values, etc.; (note: the Opus Dei's are not known for cheating in sports or submitting fake data in international surveys unlike you know who):rotflmao:
6) the Ortigas area is clearly superior as an academic environment compared to the polluted, crime-prone Taft area;
7) more beautiful people in the UA&P;
8) semesters (versus trimesters) is more conducive to learning at the collegiate level (it will allow you to absorb what you're studying better instead of being treated like fast-paced "fast food" crap);
9) the academic standards are higher in UA&P (note: UA&P only admits legitimate high school graduates unlike you know who).:bop:

and many other reasons.

I'd say go for UA&P. Invest wisely! If you're on 100% scholarship, then your return is infinite.*okay*

[teriyaki_b0y]

Go to UA&P. It's a really good school. :)

[Attila]

If your course in the UA&P is related to management or economics and you're getting 100% scholarship, then you should choose UA&P. I agree with the reasons mentioned by Stag.

[kaningbrown]

UAAP is not that relevant when it comes to one's future career unless one wants to pursue a career in sports.

UA&P with scholarship is clearly the better choice.

1) UA&P is an excellent school for business and economics;
2) UA&P has state-of-the-art facilities;
3) many of your classmates will come from prominent families just like in Ateneo; there are also many scholars in UA&P.
4) UA&P has a stronger liberal arts based core curriculum that's better than DLSU's; UA&P offers a more holistic education.
5) the Opus Dei as a group is better than the Christian Brothers when it comes to character formation, moral values, etc.; (note: the Opus Dei's are not known for cheating in sports or submitting fake data in international surveys unlike you know who):rotflmao:
6) the Ortigas area is clearly superior as an academic environment compared to the polluted, crime-prone Taft area;
7) more beautiful people in the UA&P;
8) semesters (versus trimesters) is more conducive to learning at the collegiate level (it will allow you to absorb what you're studying better instead of being treated like fast-paced "fast food" crap);
9) the academic standards are higher in UA&P (note: UA&P only admits legitimate high school graduates unlike you know who).:bop:

and many other reasons.

I'd say go for UA&P. Invest wisely! If you're on 100% scholarship, then your return is infinite.*okay*

9 reasons, none of them seem to be directly beneficial or even provable using existing data. Next thing you know you'll be pulling something about "formation of leadership skills" and other tomfoolery I've seen in a lot of other college-comparison threads.


many of your classmates will come from prominent families just like in Ateneo

Best. reason. ever.

[flsfnoeraekadad]

Next thing we know, this will be another La Salle bashing thread with the 484 Mafia starring in the forefront. Go figure.

[soulontap]

mara_mallari: Take the scholarship and do well in school - both extracurricular and your studies. DLSU is admittedly a good school but there's nothing wrong with going to UA&P. And here's a big plus, as an employer I will always take a second look at a resume that indicates the applicant is a scholar.

[flsfnoeraekadad]

Being a scholar is a big plus but in both cases you have to do well to give your employer an impression that you are really worth hiring.

[kaningbrown]

mara_mallari: Take the scholarship and do well in school - both extracurricular and your studies. DLSU is admittedly a good school but there's nothing wrong with going to UA&P. And here's a big plus, as an employer I will always take a second look at a resume that indicates the applicant is a scholar.

Good point.

It's a double-edged sword though. Scholarships add more pressure to your studies. Less time for fun, more time for studying.

[mara_mallari]

With all of those replies, I'm getting confused. :(

My course at UA&P is Integrated Marketing Communication and my course at DLSU is Applied Corporate Management. Is UA&P the best for IMC? Is DLSU the best for ACM?

This is just a tough decision.

[mara_mallari]

And, Im still doubting of the scholarship coz what if I fail to maintain the grade? Then I would pay the tuition fee like a regular student at DLSU. What do you think?

[KuyaDanny]

Kung tatanggapin mo ang scholarship, malaking tulong yan sa mga magulang mong naghahanapbuhay. Pero hindi yan biyaya. Kailangan mo pa ring kitain. Konti lang ang madaling makamtan sa mundo.

Isipin mo: mararanasan mo ang maghirap para makadama ng ginhawa sa buhay. Kay gandang aral. Ano ang halaga non? Priceless.

[paralusi]

free lunch is truly elusive, eh?

[009460]

UA&P.. DLSU? no way..

[iRebirth]

Philippines universities are more or less at the same level.
For me, if you're taking a business / economics course, go to UA&P.

[rabbaddal]

The letter just came in today, UA&P has granted me a 100 percent scholarship. I didn't apply for it but they gave it to me. I don't have to pay the confirmation fee as well as the tuition fee per semester. Knowing that the approximate amount for the UAP's tuition and other fees is 65K per sem, I only have to pay 15K per sem because of this. I also like my program here.

At DLSU's, my course is also good in here. I also have somehow decided to study at DLSU with my first choice of ACM. I'm not bashing here or what, coz DLSU is the best private university in the phils.

Now, I'm having dilemmas.

Which is which? Please state your reasons. Thanks!

UA&P, in my opinion. If your parents feel positively about the scholarship, it’s because they are in the best position to understand your family’s financial situation. You’ll probably save at least half a million pesos throughout the entirety of your college education and your family will be very grateful for that. After they paid for your GS and HS schooling, it's one of the best gifts you can offer to them. And "applied corporate management" isn't a field that needs specialized training; you can be a corporate manager even with a marketing communications degree (if you had been admitted in DLSU into MFI or MEM, that would be a different matter). The concerns about finding jobs after you graduate shouldn’t be difficult to overcome if you strategize your job search properly.

[gobbledygook]

^^ atenean troll.

listen to Kaningbrown... think of your future. iba pa ren pag alumni ka ng DLSU. ;)

pag sa la salle ka, you'll have UAAP, you meet people from different walks of lives, enjoy the State-in-the-arts facilities, cute boys (though marame den sa UA&P).


It would be better if you'll refrain from posting. You're not even from De La Salle.

[Gospel of Judas]

Win-win situation here. The only time you lose is if you flunk subject/s. But even with a UA&P scholarship, I guess you need all that money = PAMORMA. But of course hindi naman mawawala yan sa isang university na walang uniform. Kaya lang mas marami kang perang ilalaan para sa La Salle dahil wala ka namang scholarship dun.

But if you either choose one over the other, you win. What matters now is how you perform on your chosen stage, regardless of the scholarship.

[SUX2BÜ]

Even if you like your course at dlsu, but can't afford it, go to ua&p.

It's as simple as that.

:)

[mara_mallari]

Well, I can afford to go to DLSU. But what bothers me also is the UA&P environment itself. I've seen so many people there and they are like the "elite" of the society. I'm not saying that DLSU is not but when I went to DLSU, I feel more comfortable and the students there are humble pa, different from the Lasallian that others describe.

[sheherazade]

Well, I can afford to go to DLSU. But what bothers me also is the UA&P environment itself. I've seen so many people there and they are like the "elite" of the society. I'm not saying that DLSU is not but when I went to DLSU, I feel more comfortable and the students there are humble pa, different from the Lasallian that others describe.

I don't know about the case with UA&P.

But you are right when you described the atmosphere in DLSU. I wasn't really much of a fashionista. So when I decided to go to La Salle, I started stocking up my closet. Also I don't go out much since I am not really into partying.

I felt that I will be an outcast in the school. So during my first week in DLSU last May, I was expecting to be looked up and down then snubbed but I was wrong. I met many down-to-earth but seriously rich people whom you'll usually dismissed as ordinary citizens if you happen to meet them out of the school.

Also during our first few months, my friends and I used to dress up. But now, we are comfortable with shirt and jeans, the norm in the school. Wala namang namumuna ng sinusuot mo doon eh. Walang pakialamanan doon :p

Most people there don't jugde your worth by the contents of your pocket or your appearance.


I expected the worst in DLSU, but it turned out to be far better than I imagined. :D

[cla_cbe_d_best]

free lunch is truly elusive, eh?

may free lunch sa UA&P??? :eek:

[cla_cbe_d_best]

I don't know about the case with UA&P.

But you are right when you described the atmosphere in DLSU. I wasn't really much of a fashionista. So when I decided to go to La Salle, I started stocking up my closet. Also I don't go out much since I am not really into partying.

I felt that I will be an outcast in the school. So during my first week in DLSU last May, I was expecting to be looked up and down then snubbed but I was wrong. I met many down-to-earth but seriously rich people whom you'll usually dismissed as ordinary citizens if you happen to meet them out of the school.

Also during our first few months, my friends and I used to dress up. But now, we are comfortable with shirt and jeans, the norm in the school. Wala namang namumuna ng sinusuot mo doon eh. Walang pakialamanan doon :p

Most people there don't jugde your worth by the contents of your pocket or your appearance.


I expected the worst in DLSU, but it turned out to be far better than I imagined. :D


haha! yeah, pag froshie ka you'll try to make porma talaga. :bop:
pero eventually when you see the higher batch na sometimes their wearing pambahay, you will realized na its okay to wear anything... thats life in la salle, simple lang. :D

[cla_cbe_d_best]

I don't know about the case with UA&P.

But you are right when you described the atmosphere in DLSU. I wasn't really much of a fashionista. So when I decided to go to La Salle, I started stocking up my closet. Also I don't go out much since I am not really into partying.

I felt that I will be an outcast in the school. So during my first week in DLSU last May, I was expecting to be looked up and down then snubbed but I was wrong. I met many down-to-earth but seriously rich people whom you'll usually dismissed as ordinary citizens if you happen to meet them out of the school.

Also during our first few months, my friends and I used to dress up. But now, we are comfortable with shirt and jeans, the norm in the school. Wala namang namumuna ng sinusuot mo doon eh. Walang pakialamanan doon :p

Most people there don't jugde your worth by the contents of your pocket or your appearance.


I expected the worst in DLSU, but it turned out to be far better than I imagined. :D


haha! yeah, pag froshie ka you'll try to make porma talaga. :bop:
pero eventually when you see the higher batch na sometimes their wearing pambahay, you will realized na its okay to wear anything... thats life in la salle, simple lang. :D

[SUX2BÜ]

Well, I can afford to go to DLSU. But what bothers me also is the UA&P environment itself. I've seen so many people there and they are like the "elite" of the society. I'm not saying that DLSU is not but when I went to DLSU, I feel more comfortable and the students there are humble pa, different from the Lasallian that others describe.

Go to la salle then and have a heart by giving the ua&p scholarship to the student who needs it more.

:)

[cla_cbe_d_best]

^^ hmmm yeah... in granting scholarship, universities should prioritize the "financially-challenged" applicants over those who can afford. that's assuming both are deserving.

[Kris_Aquinoo]

OMG. It's the first time ***_cbe_d_best made sense in the academe.

[mikki_pretty]

both are really good schools.. pero iniisip ko parang mas gusto ko ang environment sa dlsu.. oh well, manila is where he heart is.. hahahahaha!

good luck, my friend!

:chew:

[ANO PAKE MO?]

I don't know about the case with UA&P.

But you are right when you described the atmosphere in DLSU. I wasn't really much of a fashionista. So when I decided to go to La Salle, I started stocking up my closet. Also I don't go out much since I am not really into partying.

I felt that I will be an outcast in the school. So during my first week in DLSU last May, I was expecting to be looked up and down then snubbed but I was wrong. I met many down-to-earth but seriously rich people whom you'll usually dismissed as ordinary citizens if you happen to meet them out of the school.

Also during our first few months, my friends and I used to dress up. But now, we are comfortable with shirt and jeans, the norm in the school. Wala namang namumuna ng sinusuot mo doon eh. Walang pakialamanan doon :p

Most people there don't jugde your worth by the contents of your pocket or your appearance.


I expected the worst in DLSU, but it turned out to be far better than I imagined. :D

enough said! *okay*

yung first month ko sa DLSU, sobrang porma ng mga friends ko. pero eventually, it wouldnt matter at all if you're wearing GH(greenhills) clothes. you would even see some students wearing weathered clothes yet they came from an elite family.

yun nga lang, you would normally hear the prestigious acronym, "DL"! thats the most talk-about thing ever...:bop:

[mara_mallari]

Thank you for all the insights. I've decided to give the scholarship away for those who really need it and study at DLSU. Thanks!:)

[demented_guy]

^^

You cannot go wrong with La Salle. Enjoy your ride. It will be worth it. :D

[shnicky]

Go to La Salle, you can apply for scholarships din naman if you have good grades. :D

[flsfnoeraekadad]

You want scholarships? Apply at the SFA (LS 138) before enrollment or before your first year starts. They give I think from around 10-25 pct. Yung kaklase ko, meron eh. Tama lang naman kasi kwatro boy yun eh.

[RAINBOWSIX]

good choice. ACM in DLSU? that's one good course. why?

I'm from DLSU, and I'm a LIA-COM student (Liberal Arts + Commerce) and my majors are Psychology and Business Management - Entrepreneurship Thrust. ACM people are the "elite" of the Business Management course because they are geared towards corporate management than starting up a new business. Sila yung cream of the crop and pinagaagawan ng mga corporations after they graduate. That course already opens up the corporate door for you since you'll be spending time within a corporation in your senior years and that's not an OJT - you'll learn from those inside like how you learn inside a classroom. Think of it more as an apprenticeship mode of learning which is a way lot better than what most people experience in an OJT. got it?

DLSU is a center for excellence in business... tapos ACM pa course mo. hehe, wow, swerte ka. I won't elaborate much coz you'll learn from our school naman na the good ACM graduates are already junior executives here and abroad - so all you have to do is learn everything well especialy the values our school teaches. It's true na simple lang mga tao sa La Salle (except dun sa mga freaks na mahangin na talaga even before being accepted in DLSU). Dress norms are in the simple but clean mode, wala talagang pakialaman sa damit basta what matters is ok ka and magaling ka makisama.

Another good thing I noticed sa mga taga DLSU is that kahit saan ka dalhin kaya mo sarili mo - I mean hindi ka maiilang makisama sa mayaman or mahirap. Most people are very down-to-earth even if they're that rich. hehe. :)

God Speed sa ACM. I applied for transferee to that program pero hindi umabot credentials ko kasi hindi ako nakapag DL.

[cla_cbe_d_best]

welcome mara_mallari! Be Proud, Your a La Sallian. ;)

[mara_mallari]

^ thanks for all those encouragements. :) My dad still can't accept it but my mom helps me to persuade him. :lol:

[mara_mallari]

You want scholarships? Apply at the SFA (LS 138) before enrollment or before your first year starts. They give I think from around 10-25 pct. Yung kaklase ko, meron eh. Tama lang naman kasi kwatro boy yun eh.

Oh? Meron ding academic scholarship? Ma-try nga. Salamat. Ang UA&P kasi if vale or salu ka meron kaagad yata e. Unlike sa DLSU, yung vale and salu lang ng La Salle district schools

[awch]

it's still your decision kung saan ka mag-aaral...gud luck nalang!

[mara_mallari]

^Yup. Sa La Salle na ko mag-aaral. I asked for signs and this is it.

[gen_vive]

ACM is a very good course. Students taking up ACM have to go through 3 practicums (every other term if i remember it right) at a different company each time, so you'll really be used to the corporate world. If you have the time (and if you can afford it), try taking up Applied Economics and ACM, although 5 years ata yun or something :)

[Attila]

DLSU is not a bad option if you didn't make it to Ateneo and UP as you mentioned in your previous posts.

Good luck in Taft.

[flsfnoeraekadad]

DLSU is not a bad option if you didn't make it to Ateneo and UP as you mentioned in your previous posts. Talagang may pahabol ka pa na subtle and harsh comment para dun sa bata eh noh?

484 Mafia style talaga. :rolleyes:

[christological]

Go to la salle then and have a heart by giving the ua&p scholarship to the student who needs it more.

:)

By far the best reply. I'm going to have to agree with this! Brilliant indeed. Do the sacrifice! It's not only good for you because dlsu is one the most respected business schools it makes you help others too by giving the slot to people who are most likely financially challenged.

One big fight!

[christological]

Thank you for all the insights. I've decided to give the scholarship away for those who really need it and study at DLSU. Thanks!:)

Good choice! see you in UAAP games then.. Kidding! Good luck! DLSU is a good business school and it will certainly take you to the top.

[cla_cbe_d_best]

^^ its not just GOOD. its the BEST Business School in the Philippines. ;)

Animo!

[Attila]

Mara Mallari -

It's not a bad decision to choose DLSU since you didn't make it to Ateneo and UP as you admitted before. However, with a 100% scholarship in UA&P, in my opinion going to UA&P instead of DLSU is the better choice from a financial perspective. In terms of education (eg in business and economics), UA&P and DLSU are just about the same in terms of standards. It really depends on you as a student as to what you make of your education in either school. At the end of the day, it's wherever you'll be happier that really matters. Anyway, best of luck in Taft.

[rabbaddal]

I’m in agreement with attila on this one. A lot of times, it pays to take a hard-nosed look at the situation. Even if your family has money set aside to pay for your education in DLSU, half-a-million bucks is still half-a-million bucks. That’s a lot of money your parents wouldn’t have to spend that they can divert for other constructive purposes. Consider how your dad reacted positively when he learned that you got a scholarship. It means the amount saved is still worth something for him, even if he is willing to shell it out should you choose to go to DLSU. In terms of what you’ll learn in school, I don’t see a compelling value-added difference between “applied corporate management” (DLSU) and “marketing communications” (UA&P) enough to justify spending more than P500K in additional tuition on the former. Might as well put the money in a money market account and earn profit on the investment gains.

And if ever you decide to choose DLSU so “somebody who needs the scholarship more” can go to UA&P, the appropriate thing to do is to run the reason for your decision by your parents. Since it’s their earned money that’s at stake, the scholarship is really something that is for them to give away.

[cla_cbe_d_best]

^^ ewan ko lang ha, pero Attila sound like an Atenean to me. :lol:

Animo La salle! Welcome mara_mallari, masaya sa La Salle, na mahirap, but still the experience is worth it!

[mara_mallari]

DLSU is not a bad option if you didn't make it to Ateneo and UP as you mentioned in your previous posts.

Good luck in Taft.

Yeah. Thanks, though.


By far the best reply. I'm going to have to agree with this! Brilliant indeed. Do the sacrifice! It's not only good for you because dlsu is one the most respected business schools it makes you help others too by giving the slot to people who are most likely financially challenged.

One big fight!

Actually, it's one of the eye-opening posts.

Good choice! see you in UAAP games then.. Kidding! Good luck! DLSU is a good business school and it will certainly take you to the top.

Yep, thanks. UAAP is one reason. :P joke lang! :lol:

Mara Mallari -

It's not a bad decision to choose DLSU since you didn't make it to Ateneo and UP as you admitted before. However, with a 100% scholarship in UA&P, in my opinion going to UA&P instead of DLSU is the better choice from a financial perspective. In terms of education (eg in business and economics), UA&P and DLSU are just about the same in terms of standards. It really depends on you as a student as to what you make of your education in either school. At the end of the day, it's wherever you'll be happier that really matters. Anyway, best of luck in Taft.

I’m in agreement with attila on this one. A lot of times, it pays to take a hard-nosed look at the situation. Even if your family has money set aside to pay for your education in DLSU, half-a-million bucks is still half-a-million bucks. That’s a lot of money your parents wouldn’t have to spend that they can divert for other constructive purposes. Consider how your dad reacted positively when he learned that you got a scholarship. It means the amount saved is still worth something for him, even if he is willing to shell it out should you choose to go to DLSU. In terms of what you’ll learn in school, I don’t see a compelling value-added difference between “applied corporate management” (DLSU) and “marketing communications” (UA&P) enough to justify spending more than P500K in additional tuition on the former. Might as well put the money in a money market account and earn profit on the investment gains.

And if ever you decide to choose DLSU so “somebody who needs the scholarship more” can go to UA&P, the appropriate thing to do is to run the reason for your decision by your parents. Since it’s their earned money that’s at stake, the scholarship is really something that is for them to give away.

Yeah, but my dad said, it's still up to my decision. :)

[rabbaddal]

^^ ewan ko lang ha, pero Attila sound like an Atenean to me. :lol:

Animo La salle! Welcome mara_mallari, masaya sa La Salle, na mahirap, but still the experience is worth it!

/\/\

Well, even if attila is an Atenean, it still makes more financial sense to go for the scholarship. And no, given the choices available to mara, I don’t think the DLSU experience is worth shelling out more than half a million for. If DLSU offered a scholarship as well, then maybe (I still don’t see enough difference in economic value between DLSU’s applied corp mgt and UA&P’s IMC to justify the extra P500K) the “experience” will break the tie. But if not, it’s pretty irresponsible to let one’s parents spend their hard-earned wealth on something they really didn’t have to and would prefer not to (by mara’s own admission) in the first place.

[rabbaddal]

Yeah, but my dad said, it's still up to my decision. :)

Yes, it’s your decision and your parents will probably let you have it your way. But children have a responsibility for the well-being (emotional, financial, etc.) of their parents just as much as parents have the responsibility to provide for their kids. As someone who has been working for a living for about a decade, I can assure you that P500K (it could be more in DLSU since they have a trimestral system) is no joke to earn. Your dad has a reason for being sad – he feels the loss. He could have done something with that money he worked for, maybe buy something to reward himself after giving so much for his children for so many years. Or set it aside to augment his retirement nest egg. To put it in a way:

What do you lose by going for the scholarship?
- You don’t like the crowd in UA&P
- “Applied corporate management” seems more interesting to you than “marketing communications”

What does your dad lose?
- P500,000 ++

I’m not saying one school is better than the other. But UA&P is not a mediocre school in terms of quality of learning so your education is not compromised by going to UA&P from a purely academic standpoint. Your dad, on the other hand, will be compromised by more than half a million; that's for sure.

Here’s a two-cent suggestion before you assert your right to make your own decision. Why not go over to the Parenting 101 forum, post your dilemma and ask the parents there how they would feel if they were in your parents’ shoes? What could they do with P500K? Here's the forum:

http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=51

[mara_mallari]

Why am I feeling like this? Haha. Parang wala yatang tamang desisyon. Ang hirap naman nito o.

[rabbaddal]

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I think it’s clear that UA&P is offering a better deal for your family who will be paying for your college education (tuition, baon, pamasahe, etc.). You don’t lose anything tangible by going to UA&P; you still get a good education even if you’re not agreeable with the crowd there. Your parents, on the other hand, stand to lose loads of money if you go to DLSU. I know your family can probably afford it, but they’d be very happy just to keep that money in their own pockets (and making it grow by investing it in the money market). Sorry to point out the obvious but I think it’s irresponsible to set your parents back by so much money because you “don’t like the crowd” or find a program “a little less interesting” in the school that’s offering you the scholarship. Just my honest opinion.

[mara_mallari]

^^ Yeah, yeah. But I already got their conscientious and we have agreed that I'll go to DLSU. :)

How can I delete this thread?

[rabbaddal]

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Well, just so you have a complete picture of the decision you're making. You asked for opinions and you got frank, honest answers. Maybe when you have dependents of your own someday, you'll understand your parents' loss. Maybe they don't want you to feel that they're holding you back for some reason, but it's still a significant and un-necessary loss for them. And for what? Just because their kid doesn't like the crowd in the equally competent school that's offering to save them the amount. Personally, I'd go to great lengths to keep half a million in my parents' pockets (and grow it by investing) if it wouldn't hurt me anyway. I wouldn't "yeah yeah" that amount. And if I decide to effectively give it away, I'd do it only if I'm sure it's wholeheartedly fine with them since they're the ones who'll really be giving away the money, not me. Hindi ko gagawin iyon kung masakit sa loob nila o dismayado sila.

I know they consented to your decision but the truth is that deep inside, it's against their wishes. They're just being forced to accept it because it's what their kid wants.

[qazwsxedcrfvtgb]

shux, this is a no-brainer question. ofcourse, ua&p is the better school. the scholarship is already offered to you. why else would you reject it? sus. ano ba to.

[mara_mallari]

^Pasensya na ha!

[iRebirth]

mara, i think the reasons u mentioned about the environment of UA&P and about the scholarship better off going to someone who needs it more are just random excuses.

you want to go to DLSU because of its reputation and because it's the more popular institution of the two. you don't really know what marketing communications is or what applied corporate management is for that matter.

you really have no idea of what u want except that you want to make it big as a corporate executive (whatever that is) in the future. and what u know doesn't go deeper than that.

but i don't blame you. if i were in your position, i would choose DLSU as well.

[rabbaddal]

The thing is, there's no such undergrad course / curriculum that would teach one to become a corp executive someday. That's something that hasn't been framed in a curriculum yet. And the reputation factor doesn't have that much of an impact in today's white collar job market where there is a shortage of qualified workers. Companies will hire someone who can demonstrate qualifications.

There are some courses that teach deep job skills like financial analysis, data mining / advanced statistics and new media that could potentially lead to better-paying jobs. But these are not within the consideration of the threadstarter.

But between marketing communications and "corporate management", the differences are vague and don't justify throwing away so much money that could have been used by the family for their own purposes. One might even say that a well-taught marketing communications program could instill the student certain skills that would give him a (slight) advantage in landing a job in an ad/media company.

[bluethehero]

^speaking of differences...

to the threadstarter, did you even research or try to find out what's the difference between the two courses? I mean, choose because of the course and your career goals and objectives, the choice of school should just be secondary.

[Ashlars]

^^ Yeah, yeah. But I already got their conscientious and we have agreed that I'll go to DLSU. :)


You mean consensus.

If it were me in your shoes, I'd choose the full scholarship. Money's hard to come by these days and a scholarship means a lot to anyone's finances.

Basing your decision just because the other school is more popular is somewhat shallow.

[Gospel of Judas]

Some points:

1. Don't base your decision based on popularity. Go with the practical choice. Hindi naman masamang kunin yung La Salle choice pero diba mas practical kung kukunin mo yung UA&P scholarship. Maswerte ka. Ayaw mo bang matawag na isang scholar?

2. Sayang din iyong 150K na maibubulsa mo o pambili ng gadgets + pamorma + baon + pang-MRT. But if you have decided to go in La Salle, then I think you have a great reason for it. Sana lang wag dahil sa popularidad. Magaling ang La Salle as empirical evidence shows but kung ako iyon kukunin ko na iyong scholarship. Maayos din naman sa UA&P eh. You should understand na mahirap na ang buhay ngayon at dapat mo nang kunin yung golden opportunities to study in good universities. GISING, SCHOLARSHIP YUN!

3. Don't listen to Ateneans. Seeing the word La Salle there makes it uberly biased against DLSU. Believe me. And don't listen too much to people you don't know. Pick which advices that you would intake for your decision making.

4. I believe Mark Comm is far different from App Corp Mgmt because I have a cousin who takes Economics and App Corp Mgmt in DLSU.

5. If you decide to go to La Salle, may mga nakikita ako diyan na post sa itaas na scholarship grants. You try your best avail of them. Remember, a scholarship is very elusive in these rough economic times.

[cla_cbe_d_best]

well, well, mara_mallari.... regarding sa option ng course mo..

san mo ba plan mag work after? alam mo ba sabi ng cousin ko who is a grad of UA&P na nasa US na ngayon, dito sa pilipinas hindi important yung course majors mo... basta business related courses kahit san pwede kang ilagay... it's like kahet graduates ng MFI, ACM, Marktng Mgmt pwedeng magkasama sama sa isang department sa isang company.... yun lang

[flsfnoeraekadad]

ACM is a very good course. Students taking up ACM have to go through 3 practicums (every other term if i remember it right) at a different company each time, so you'll really be used to the corporate world. If you have the time (and if you can afford it), try taking up Applied Economics and ACM, although 5 years ata yun or something :)

AE-ACM is five years, ECM-ACM is five years and one term but the practical choice is AE-ACM because the thrust of BS-AEC is more business-oriented but make no mistake about it. AE-ACM and ECM-ACM are degrees with much quantitative areas. If you ever take one of these two double degrees, you will have your hands full for five years.

[SUX2BÜ]

It seems that mara_mallari really wants to go to la salle because of school environment, culture, reputation, type of students, the right course, sense of belongingness, and giving the scholarship to those who need it most, which, I believe, are more important and compelling reasons than spending 500K, the amount that her parents can afford and do not have objections to shelling out.

Oh, please, don't confuse the kid further. mara_mallari , go to the school which you believe will make you happy. There are practical reasons but, trust me, you can never go wrong with your heart.

:)


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[iRebirth]

bubuhayin ko lang yung thread na 'to for a similar dilemma my friend has:

full scholarship at Ateneo vs. UP (mga 60-70k na ata ngayon per annum)

pakiramdam ko dapat nya kunin *** ateneo scholarship pero mas **** nya magUP. Hindi ko nga lang alam if for the right reasons kasi hnd siya *** type na nag-iisip ng long term.

[cla_cbe_d_best]

Ateneo vs UP? UP na noh! :D

[bluethehero]

iRebirth if that's the case, he should go for the ateneo, unless again, gusto talaga niya at hindi burden sa parents ang pag-aaral nya sa UP. walang problema kung UP sya basta ba gusto niya ang kukunin nya sa UP at hindi lang dahil sa "feeling nya e cool maging iskolar ng bayan".

[KuyaDanny]

pakiramdam ko dapat nya kunin *** ateneo scholarship pero mas **** nya magUP. Hindi ko nga lang alam if for the right reasons kasi hnd siya *** type na nag-iisip ng long term.

Pakiramdam ko dapat siya ang magpost dito ng mga dahilan niya para buo ang kaalaman natin para makilatis ang kanyang pag-iisip.

Otherwise we will all be assuming things with little basis and making generalizations which may be inappropriate.

[SUX2BÜ]

...at para na rin maiwasan ang walang humpay na "pangungunsensiya."

:)

[KuyaDanny]

SUX,

Don't go there, man.

[SUX2BÜ]

Oops, pasensiya na po.

Nagsasabi lang.

:)

[KuyaDanny]

OK, no problem.

[leverage17]

La Sallian education is unparallel. Obviously, you should choose La Salle.

You might as well want to know that educators in UAnP come from La Salle and Ateneo.

[ilovenikolai]

UA&P IMC is really the perfect choice if you want to pursue advertising and work in ad. agencies or client base marketing..if you don't want this..then go to lasalle

[Caloy_O]

DLSU is generally a more prestigious school than UA&P. In fact, there are more people who believe that DLSU is more prestigious than AdMU. But if a full-ride scholarship means so much to you and to your family, and you are pursuing a course related to business, management, IT or economics, I don't think the added reputation of a lasal education would give a significant advantage in issues relating to employability and future career prospects. Most recruiters today, or those people who know anything about anything pertaining to recruitment, are now aware that an UA&P education is as good as any education acquired from the BIG 3 (UP, DLSU & AdMU).

[rabbaddal]

But if a full-ride scholarship means so much to you and to your family, and you are pursuing a course related to business, management, IT or economics, I don't think the added reputation of a lasal education would give a significant advantage in issues relating to employability and future career prospects. Most recruiters today, or those people who know anything about anything pertaining to recruitment, are now aware that an UA&P education is as good as any education acquired from the BIG 3 (UP, DLSU & AdMU).

I agree with this. By choosing DLSU over the UA&P scholarship, the parents will be paying P500K++ mainly to satisfy the applicant’s desire to be with the kind of crowd that he/she likes (ie. “culture”), which is something that has no academic value from the point of the applicant. A good quality education and decent career prospects are already free as far as the applicant is concerned.

[ach_soo]

You can interchange Ateneo or UST or UP, or any other school with Lasalle in this case and it won't matter. There IS value in the school one chooses, regardless of the financial advantages offered by an alternative.

[SUX2BÜ]

Tapos na 'to, 'di ba?

:lol:

[Nickrbine]

UA&P Hands down.
In my Opinion DLSU is way Overrated.
no offense guys

[gox_guy]

ewww.. UA&P is for the BOBO students...

pero i must admit na mraming cute dyan... though mostly mga brainless....

if i am the thread starter. mag La Salle sya... its the country's best university there is..


Animo La Salle!

[erap_arroyo99]

..mag La Salle sya... its the country's best university there is..

hasnt this been refuted already?:bop: