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sheherazade
Feb 19, 2007, 07:28 PM
My cousin is confused. She just passed UP's BSBAA or BS in Business Administration and Accountancy Program and DLSU's AB major in Economics and BS in Accountancy. She can't decide which school offers the better program in Accountancy. She is also wondering which is more renowned in the corporate world since she is also planning to enter the business sector when she graduates...

What do you think?

cla_cbe_d_best
Feb 19, 2007, 10:53 PM
BOTH are the best! UP Diliman's dominance is during October. DLSU is during May exams. ;)

Animo La salle!

rainmaker5821
Feb 19, 2007, 11:08 PM
I'm BAA so i might be biased when i say go for UP. But i guess wag ka na pumunta ng BAA if hindi ka desidido magkaroon ng Accountancy title. I'm telling you, it is far from easy and you might end up regretting it if you don't have the heart for it.

Gising
Feb 20, 2007, 06:36 AM
You can't go wrong with either UP or La Salle.

UST, San Beda, UE and FEU are also good Accountancy schools.

mac_bolan00
Feb 20, 2007, 07:44 AM
I'm BAA so i might be biased when i say go for UP. But i guess wag ka na pumunta ng BAA if hindi ka desidido magkaroon ng Accountancy title. I'm telling you, it is far from easy and you might end up regretting it if you don't have the heart for it.
i had one professor at UP MBA who took BAA and found it devilishly hard that this professor had to shift. but this person bounced back, took MBA, then DBA, and eventually made dean of the UP college of business admn. revenge of some sorts.

Ashlars
Feb 20, 2007, 09:28 AM
Choose UP BAA.

springplum
Feb 20, 2007, 12:06 PM
Hi, I'm from BAA also. I'd say it's a really good program. There will be a wide range of opportunities for you afterwards.

But the course is not easy. Hindi lahat ng nakakapasok, nakakagraduate ng BAA. It's challenging, because they don't train you just to pass the CPA boards exams. They train you to think critically, something which you can apply when you work. And iba parin talaga yung dating sa tao pag sinabi mong BAA ka. :)


rainmaker: from what batch ka? :)

ice n friez
Feb 20, 2007, 07:27 PM
kung ayaw niya ng fast-paced na turo, then mag-UP siya kasi sa dlsu 10 days lang, as compared sa 1 sem or 5 months sa ibang schools, kinukuha ang isang subject tapos finals na.

so kung tingin niya di niya kaya yung ganung environment & system, malungkot mang sabihin pero dlsu bsa may not be for her.

cla_cbe_d_best
Feb 20, 2007, 10:48 PM
^^ agree.. sobrang hirap ng accountancy sa dlsu.. as in yung dormmate ko date, hinde na sya natutulog... though bumagsak sya sa board exam. :(

flsfnoeraekadad
Feb 20, 2007, 11:35 PM
One requirement for accounting in DLSU is you have to make the 83 percent passing mark in ALL of the accounting and law-related subjects during your stay as an BSA major in DLSU. Go 80 percent, and you repeat the course. Maybe ice n friez can explain that further to you, threadstarter.

rabbaddal
Feb 21, 2007, 05:56 AM
My cousin is confused. She just passed UP's BSBAA or BS in Business Administration and Accountancy Program and DLSU's AB major in Economics and BS in Accountancy. She can't decide which school offers the better program in Accountancy. She is also wondering which is more renowned in the corporate world since she is also planning to enter the business sector when she graduates...

What do you think?

My question is a bit on the left field.

Anyway, is she seriously considering being an accountant? If not, why not DLSU's MFI instead of becoming an accounting major? You said that "she is planning to enter the business sector when she graduates". Majoring in accounting might mean spending too much time in a field that she has no plans of entering. The time might be better spent learning other skills that are more directly sought after in the corporate world.

cla_cbe_d_best
Feb 21, 2007, 06:49 AM
^^ tama! go MFI!

student_01
Feb 21, 2007, 07:05 AM
MFI- is Management of financial institutions diba?

wala lang, naalala ko, yan yung napasa ko sa DLSU :)

hehe, mahirap ba? ano pinagkaiba niya sa accounting?

jayvee?

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ice n friez
Feb 21, 2007, 07:22 AM
ayon sa mga prof namin, mas broad ang accounting, meaning kaya ng mga accountants gawin yung work ng mga mfi/finance people but not the other way around.

at chaka i think mas madali makakuha ng trabaho pag accountant ka kaysa finance. diba usually sa mga job requirements mas prefered nila yung BSA graduates & may CPA degree. & lahat ng mga organizations, whether corporation man yan, hospital, or simbahan eh kailangan ng accountant, so mas marami talagang opportunities pag BSA ang kinuha.

opinion ko lang naman yan.

rabbaddal
Feb 21, 2007, 08:01 AM
MFI- is Management of financial hehe, mahirap ba? ano pinagkaiba niya sa accounting?


Check out the MFI curriculum at the DLSU website:

http://www.dlsu.edu.ph/academics/programs/undergraduate/cbe/mfi.asp

The focus of the MFI curriculum is more on products and services offered by financial institutions such as banks, securities and insurance companies, so it is not the same as an accounting major. Accounting doesn't cover topics such as banking operations, lending and securities analysis, which provide skills that can be applied to a wide range of industries (almost all medium-sized and large companies deal with financial institutions). There's a lot of difference between the two majors.

And while it is true that someone who took MFI can't just work as a CPA, while CPAs can be trained for work in financial companies, the value proposition is not compelling enough if one isn't really determined to be an accountant. There are plenty of non-CPA finance job descriptions in the market such that one doesn't really have to worry about whether he / she can work as an accountant. He / she can just channel his / her energies to becoming a more competitive financial analyst using strategies such as taking a good practicum or preparing for the CFA exams.

flsfnoeraekadad
Feb 21, 2007, 01:43 PM
MFI- is Management of financial institutions diba?

wala lang, naalala ko, yan yung napasa ko sa DLSU :)

hehe, mahirap ba? ano pinagkaiba niya sa accounting?

jayvee?

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************* mo naman kami eh. Noong isang beses kang tinanong, MMG ang pinasa mo sa DLSUCET. Nung isang beses, ACM. Nung isang beses, BMG. Tapos ngayon naman, MFI. Lalahatin mo ba ang pagpapanggap ng mga kunyaring naipasa mong courses sa CBE bago kami makahalata sayo? Baka sa susunod madinig ko dyan eh pumasa ka na din sa ECM-BSA as first choice.

Ayaw kitang kausapin. Sinungaling.

KuyaDanny
Feb 21, 2007, 02:08 PM
Hala. Galit na si flsf. Takot ako.

Kopibun
Feb 21, 2007, 02:26 PM
oo nga, bobo talaga yang si student_01 na atenista. Dati sabi BMG, tapos naging ACM. ***** MFI na na ang napasa niya sa lasalle. 3 times ata nagtake e.

flsfnoeraekadad
Feb 21, 2007, 03:52 PM
Hala. Galit na si flsf. Takot ako.
Hindi naman ako galit, hindi ko lang ma-take ang mga kapalpakan at pambabarbero nya. Parang wala sa bokabularyo nya ang salitang pagbabago eh. Palagi na lang ganun ang nakikita ko sa kanya, and sometime, somewhere maiirita ka din eh. The way he posts will just make you smirk. Hindi naman ako galit sa iba kaya walang dapat ikabahala.

My cousin is confused. She just passed UP's BSBAA or BS in Business Administration and Accountancy Program and DLSU's AB major in Economics and BS in Accountancy. She can't decide which school offers the better program in Accountancy. She is also wondering which is more renowned in the corporate world since she is also planning to enter the business sector when she graduates...

What do you think?
Tell your cousin to take ECM-BSA. She's in good hands with the Economics and Accountancy department. And she can be a member of JPES and JPIA at the same time and be an active member. Basically your cousin gets the best of the best in CBE.

Masaya din iyon, kasi marami ding double major sa DLSU. Hindi siya masyado mahihirapan for advices and tips.

Ventada Manila
Feb 21, 2007, 04:19 PM
La Salle is better I think but if I were you State U ka na, mura na wala ka pang kaaway na Ateneo. hehe.

By the way, one of the top directors of Ayala Corporation is a UP BAA graduate. She's a lawyer too. Not bad. =)

student_01
Feb 21, 2007, 10:15 PM
eh, kase naman no, kaya nga may first, second and third choice diba?

ano kaba? sino kaya Obobs?

math_techie
Feb 21, 2007, 11:31 PM
************* mo naman kami eh. Noong isang beses kang tinanong, MMG ang pinasa mo sa DLSUCET. Nung isang beses, ACM. Nung isang beses, BMG. Tapos ngayon naman, MFI. Lalahatin mo ba ang pagpapanggap ng mga kunyaring naipasa mong courses sa CBE bago kami makahalata sayo? Baka sa susunod madinig ko dyan eh pumasa ka na din sa ECM-BSA as first choice.

Ayaw kitang kausapin. Sinungaling.

cool lang dude. Hayaan mo na yang batang yan.

SUX2BÜ
Feb 22, 2007, 12:26 AM
Based on my experience, and if the ends justify the means, dlsu accountants are happier and more compassionate people.

:)

flsfnoeraekadad
Feb 22, 2007, 12:30 AM
eh, kase naman no, kaya nga may first, second and third choice diba?
Pero ikaw lang ang examinee na either pumasa ng DLSUCET four times or pumasa sa apat na choices. Sobrang talino mo nga pero sobrang istirero mo din.

ano kaba? sino kaya Obobs?
Tinatanong pa ba yan? IKAW!!!

cool lang dude. Hayaan mo na yang batang yan.
Sorry.

cla_cbe_d_best
Feb 22, 2007, 03:33 AM
hay nako, nangugulo na naman *** si student_01. akala ko ba na-banned na sya? nasan na ba ang banning machine ng mods..

atenista daw yan na nagpapanggap na thomasian. style ng mga taga ateneo yun dito sa pex. :glee:

student_01
Feb 22, 2007, 07:55 AM
^^ nababaliw ka na ba?

hay, ewan i rest my case


jayvee, wag ka na magalit.!

Feodore_Knox
Feb 22, 2007, 01:15 PM
My cousin is confused. She just passed UP's BSBAA or BS in Business Administration and Accountancy Program and DLSU's AB major in Economics and BS in Accountancy. She can't decide which school offers the better program in Accountancy. She is also wondering which is more renowned in the corporate world since she is also planning to enter the business sector when she graduates...

What do you think?
Your cousin's really lucky to have gotten a slot among the select few for the UP BAA program. This is a chance of a lifetime. :)

sheherazade
Feb 22, 2007, 07:27 PM
right...but as of now...talagang 50-50 pa rin *** sa kanyang decision.. but then she still has a month to make up her mind...

In terms of CPA Board Exam, both school are at par with each other, aren't they?

But isn't the atmosphere in UP somewhat similar to Darwin's adage of Survival of the Fittest? You are really on your own.

On the other hand, DLSU is nurturing and very supportive to their students?

So aside from the degrees offered, I told her that the environment of the school she would be entering is very crucial...

flsfnoeraekadad
Feb 22, 2007, 07:36 PM
right...but as of now...talagang 50-50 pa rin *** sa kanyang decision.. but then she still has a month to make up her mind...

In terms of CPA Board Exam, both school are at par with each other, aren't they?

Yeah. Sa La Salle palagi ang May CPA Exams and sa UP ang October CPA Exams.

farkas
Feb 22, 2007, 08:19 PM
The way he posts will just make you smirk. Hindi naman ako galit sa iba kaya walang dapat ikabahala

relax ka lang tsong! pinapansin mo pa kasi eh! :bop:

*** ba si jayvee? :naughty:

commoner
Feb 22, 2007, 08:30 PM
same as my sister's dilemma ang pinagiba lang, she only passed UP-Diliman and not specifically BAA. ECM-BSA din siya sa DLSU.

she chose to enroll in economics/business ad, whichever she gets into, tapos shift nalang sa BAA.

Feodore_Knox
Feb 22, 2007, 08:39 PM
But isn't the atmosphere in UP somewhat similar to Darwin's adage of Survival of the Fittest? You are really on your own.

In UP, Survival of the Fittest applies only when the professor and the students cannot really connect...pag hindi mo maintindihan yung prof, pag hindi sya marunong magturo, pag hindi mo ma-grasp ang ideas nya...
In that situation, yes, you are on your own. Find other ways to learn. UP students are known for being resourceful, that's why they survive the worst to become the best.

But hey, most UP teachers are excellent ones. And you got excellent classmates too. You learn from your superiors, you learn from your peers. You don't have to be the fittest to survive. :)

fmontserrat
Feb 22, 2007, 10:44 PM
Like Gising said, it already is a win-win scenario, so all you have to do now is just choose the university that your instint dictates as the best. While both schools have very different discipline and oriention in student development, in the end, it depends on the student so the burden (and subsequent guilt) lies on her able shoulders. Other factors such as motivation, mentorship, class cohesion, student resource, and training and internship come to play.

Just a word of caution, the choice will not benefit the faint-hearted. It's a difficult climb to the top, and that while still on the slope, you might have been discouraged to continue with the program, with reasons varying from lack of passion, disillusionment and fatigue, to scholastic and peer pressure, etc.

I have had students (not from both schools) who did not intend to take up B.Sc.A. in the first place. So it was a waste of time teaching them the rudiments of debit and credit when all they could think about was simply getting passing remarks and obtaining a degree. And I have known some students from both schools that didn't make it in the licensure exam, having been surpass by students from 'small players' like Mariano Marcos State University or Silliman Univesity. (Case in point, in the October 2006 exam, an examinee from UPD, took the hot seat for having been the only alumni at that time to flunk the board exam. Poor fellow, think of the mockery and disgrace that the circumstances offered him.)

So tell your cousin to think about her decision to take up Accountancy a thousand times. Or maybe a million, up to her. Besides, accounting is one, if not the most, boring field. Hell, in the US, we CPAs have been made one of the butt of jokes, owning to our 'social skills' and the seriousness of our work. (That's why I ended up teaching, am trying to escape a monotonous deskjob at the Big Four.)

Anyway, should you still insist on my opinion, I'd probably go for UP. My sister's from UP.

Off-topic: Is Roberto Manabat of KPMG/Manabat Sanagustin & Co. (formerly Laya Mananghaya) in anyway related to the other Manabat of Deloite/CL Manabat?

demented_guy
Feb 22, 2007, 11:01 PM
As much as I hate the modular program devised by DLSU's Accountancy Department, I still think that the program instilled to me the more important aspects of life --- hardwork, discipline and perseverance. Never mind the deficiencies in the learning part... we are college students so we can't expect our professors to spoon-feed us with everything we have to know. We have to do the substantial portion of gaining knowledge.

DLSU's Accountancy program is geared primarily towards attaining the sought-after CPA license (passing the board exams) --- the 100% drive attests to that fact. Everything outside that is only a by-product of the rigorous training being implemented. The qualifying exam, the 83-percent (base zero) grade threshold, the fast-paced academic calendar of DLSU/Modular program all contribute to the harshness of the program.

But if your cousin is looking for topnotch professors, then I'm NOT sure if the DLSU Accountancy program can give her that as I have reservations myself about the caliber and technical know-how of my professors during college.

I can't speak for UP's BAA program as I never experienced it.

Ventada Manila
Feb 23, 2007, 01:41 PM
right...but as of now...talagang 50-50 pa rin *** sa kanyang decision.. but then she still has a month to make up her mind...

In terms of CPA Board Exam, both school are at par with each other, aren't they?

But isn't the atmosphere in UP somewhat similar to Darwin's adage of Survival of the Fittest? You are really on your own.

On the other hand, DLSU is nurturing and very supportive to their students?

So aside from the degrees offered, I told her that the environment of the school she would be entering is very crucial...


I don't think so. Quite a lot drop out of the course due to difficulty. DLSU Accounting has a high mortality rate. But then again, there's nothing to fear but fear itself. State U na lang! Hirap sa La Salle kapag Atenista yung HR may bias na. At least UP walang kaaway.

Gising
Feb 24, 2007, 06:19 AM
************* mo naman kami eh. Noong isang beses kang tinanong, MMG ang pinasa mo sa DLSUCET. Nung isang beses, ACM. Nung isang beses, BMG. Tapos ngayon naman, MFI. Lalahatin mo ba ang pagpapanggap ng mga kunyaring naipasa mong courses sa CBE bago kami makahalata sayo? Baka sa susunod madinig ko dyan eh pumasa ka na din sa ECM-BSA as first choice.

Ayaw kitang kausapin. Sinungaling.

Makulit talaga yang si student01. UST ka tsong. Ang pinaguuspan dito UP at La Salle. Huwag ka nang sisingit uli. Singit ka ng singit kung nasaan ang UP, Ateneo at La Salle.:rotflmao:


No not MFI. Masydong hilaw ang kurso dahil hilaw naman ang financial market natin.

If the person chooses La Salle, take the Accountancy program. Hindi ka magsisisi.

Gising
Feb 24, 2007, 06:25 AM
Si student01 ay hindi Atenista. Walang Atenista, kahit gaano pa ka-sira ang ulo na magsasabing Satenista ang Atenista. tsk tsk. Satenista. Yan ang bukang bibig ni student01. Magpaumanhin ka muna tsong. Hinahanap ka sa Atenista.net. Kapal mukha mong isiksisk sarili mo dun tapos titirahin mo Atenista dito sa Pex.

Ooops.. Off Topic.

Gising
Feb 24, 2007, 06:28 AM
Basta UP o La Salle Accoutancy, hindi ka talo. Siguraduhin lang na gusto talaga ang Accounting.

student_01
Feb 24, 2007, 07:11 AM
sorry, gising, hinde ako kasing Gag0 tulad mo, sorry for the word Mods

diba nga sinabe ko na yung dahilan, nababaliw ka na ba?

atsaka hinde ako inaaway ng mga atenista doon, actually kinakaibigan ko na nga eh! tsk tsk tsk

baket ka ba nakikialam, kausapin mo nalang kaya yang sarili mo

Gising
Feb 24, 2007, 07:26 AM
sorry, gising, hinde ako kasing Gag0 tulad mo, sorry for the word Mods

diba nga sinabe ko na yung dahilan, nababaliw ka na ba?

atsaka hinde ako inaaway ng mga atenista doon, actually kinakaibigan ko na nga eh! tsk tsk tsk

baket ka ba nakikialam, kausapin mo nalang kaya yang sarili mo

Kasi makapal mukha mong magsimula pa ng thread duon pero dito tinatawag mong Satenista ang Atenista dito. Kapal muks mo pre.....kaya pala dito sa PEX, pinagtatawanan ang UST dahil sa mga kabulastugan ng mga taong tulad mo.

Napansin ko nga mayroong thread na pinagtatawanan ang UST dito. Buit naisara..kaya naman siguro on the offensive naman kayo...harhar...nakisakay kayo sa mga Atenista nung inaaway ang La Salista dahil sa suspension, ngayon naman sumasakay ka sa mg La Salistang asar sa Atenista. :lol:

Tumigil ka na sampu ng mga kasama mong taga-UST. Singit singit. Pilit pilit.:rotflmao:

Gising
Feb 24, 2007, 07:29 AM
Sorry people.

My final word, either UP or DLSU, still win-win situation.

But the idea of entering UPs program is really tempting. Once in lifetime opportunity din yan. Hirap ng problema. Nice.*okay*

n3X
Feb 27, 2007, 03:28 AM
UP CBA victories in the four major intercollegiate competitions in the philippines: PANA (Integrated Marketing Communications), Stratmark (Strategic marketing), FINEX (Finance), ACPACI (Accounting). Research mo na lang. Go with the best.

2002-17545
Feb 28, 2007, 10:56 AM
BS BAA course ko. I can't say anything about DLSU's course kasi malay ko naman dun. Pero masasabi ko sa course ko, hindi sya joke. If sure kang matalino ka at love mo accounting at kaya mong ibalanse ang Accounting with other subjects, go mag-BAA ka. Isa sa mahirap sa BAA ay double major siya, so hindi talaga sya biro. Pag-isipan mong mabuti if mag-BAA ka kasi kami, nagstart kami na 100 plus kami, ngayon ay 32 na lang kami sa batch. Mahirap kasi, aside from Accounting ay ang dami pang other subjects na kailangan mong intindihin pero fun naman. Pero isa talaga sya sa maituturing mong bad-side ng course namin, hindi porket nagstart ka na BAA ka, hindi porket matalino ka, hindi porket masipag ka ay gagraduate ka na BAA. Ang dami ko na nakilala, super sipag and super talino pero hindi kinaya ang curriculum ng BAA.

Well, definitely magagaling teachers namin. Siguro isa sila sa best sa indutriya. Drawback, sobrang galing din nila gumawa ng exam. Just last Monday, we had a quiz <take note, quiz ha not exam> for more than 4 hours tapos kulang pa kami sa time. Quiz pa lang yan, nakaranas na ako ng almost 7 hours ata na isang long exam from 9am to 4pm <kung tama alala ko>.

Also, if tamad ka and sanay ka sa spoon-feeding, wag ka mag-BAA. Sa amin, expected na pag pasok mo sa room ay nabasa mo na ang mga libro. Tapos required and expected din kami na alam ang mga nakasulat sa IFRS. Hindi lahat ihahatag sa iyo, which is really a good thing kasi mas matututo kang maging resourceful and masipag.

In terms of passing rate, isa ang UP sa mga may 90% parati or more every year. Actually, kung 95% pababa nga, masama na loob ng admin eh.

Tama yung commennt nung isang nagpost kanina, na hindi CPA board-based ang pagututuro sa amin. Parang ang target kasi is not to pass the board exams eh, but to be great business leaders in the future kaya mas pinipiga talaga kami.

And yes, tama si N3x. Nanalo kami sa 4 major intercollegiate compets sa larangan ng business <pero hindi yun puro BAA ha, may mga taga-BA din>.

=)

tantararantaran
Feb 28, 2007, 07:07 PM
^tama! yung mga several hours-long exams namin, minsan isang long problem lang. definitely dapat marunong kang magtiis ng gutom especially kung my long exam ka kasi walang time kumain, makakatulong ang kendi, at ganito kababaw ang concerns ko, pero i made it through, one of the 32 students mentioned above.

at tama, hindi pang-boards ang training kasi di naman ganon sa boards. kaya nga one time, sa advance accounting namin, tinanong namin kung hanggang saan ang business combi sa boards, sabi ni prof, hanggang PPE lang daw, pero tinake-up namin ang leases at investments dun. tinanong namin kung bakit, eh hindi naman daw boards ang katapusan ng BAA.

pero everything's worth it, lalo na at sobrang daming opportunities na mag-oopen sa 'yo once you graduate as BAA from UP, siguradong may mapapasukan ka nang audit firm of your choice kung wala ka pang trabaho come after the boards. haha!

dredd0
Feb 28, 2007, 08:56 PM
OT:
to the threadstarter:
yung name ba ng pinsan mo starts with letter c? meron kasi akong classmate na ganyan yung situation niya..

sheherazade
Feb 28, 2007, 09:12 PM
OT:
to the threadstarter:
yung name ba ng pinsan mo starts with letter c? meron kasi akong classmate na ganyan yung situation niya..

nope....hehe :D meron rin palang may situation ngayon katulad ng sa cousin ko

Gising
Mar 2, 2007, 07:56 AM
If job prospect is your sole consideration, you can't go wrong on either of the two.

bleep01
Mar 2, 2007, 01:17 PM
UP BAA. Be with the BEST! :lol:

dredd0
Mar 2, 2007, 10:06 PM
nope....hehe :D meron rin palang may situation ngayon katulad ng sa cousin ko

nwei..my classmate opt for UP BAA..ano pala name niya? baka maging bockmates sila sa up..:)

cutiebears
Mar 3, 2007, 10:10 AM
Hello! I'm a BSA major from DLSU-M.

Maganda ang turo ng BSA sa DLSU. Though, medyo mahirap lang. It is really hard to have an 83% grade. And the modular program...

Regarding MFI, I heard na yan ata ang bagsakan ng mga bumabagsak ng BSA. :)

Anyway, UP isn't so bad too.

Whatever school you enroll in, its not a loss.

Caloy_O
Mar 5, 2007, 10:24 PM
Personally, I am a UP-D-ophile and that’s because UP is the best school in the country. However, in these decisions, I think fit is most important. Have you been to both campuses? Have you talked to a lot of students or graduates at both schools? What do you want to study?

I think UP is a more intense learning atmosphere, and therefore in general will be a better education (except for the particularly self-motivated). If you are driven from within and could keep your focus anywhere, this won't matter. Then it really is totally a question of two things: how much you care about the extra prestige of UP Diliman, and in which milieu you feel more comfortable.

If it comes down to a trade-off or either/or, I would personally choose comfort/fit over prestige, assuming you are really self-motivated.

Just a thought.

2002-17545
Mar 7, 2007, 12:21 AM
I agree with Sir Caloy. =)

--@nonymou$--
Mar 11, 2007, 04:32 PM
ECO-BSA....i think yan ang pinaka deadly na combination ng mga double majors....and i've heard a lot about the modular system...i think its like 1 modular subject runs for 2-3 weeks yata...correct me if im wrong..tpos 5 hours everyday!!! tpos yun lang ang subject mo for those weeks....so it is really fast paced....considering pa yung trimestral system ng dlsu...once na nagfinals na kayo for that subject...that's the time na magmove on sa next modular course...

bsta ganun...pero like sabi nila...whichever school you choose...walang talo kasi both schools are renowned for their accountancy program! *okay*

tantararantaran
Mar 11, 2007, 08:44 PM
I'm just wondering how effective the modular program of DLSU is. I went to DLSU one time to observe a class, auditing theory in particular, and they told us all about the modular system. i really waS skeptic kasi for a class like auditing theory, i spent a whole weekend reading the code of ethics, a month to absorb it, and its just a fraction of the whole aud theory. how can students appreciate it in two weeks or so?

more, when we took up the 6-unit intermediate accounting in UP, i must admit i had a hard time coping with it because it was so fast paced albeit taking it for one whole semester. i dont even remember now half of what we took up in that course. im thankful for our aud prob class that i get to relearn everything again.

although yes, for two weeks, the students only have 1 subject to take, the marginal utility of focusing on the same subject for two weeks declines rapidly, i believe. so how are the students coping? what are their feedbacks?

Lasallian_2005
Mar 11, 2007, 08:53 PM
I took the modular class last last term. particularly financial and cost accounting. I think the problem with the program is the retention thing. Yung ibang mga lesson di ko na masyadong natatandaan. For me, I think it's more effective having the traditional class.

ice n friez
Mar 12, 2007, 12:38 PM
I'm just wondering how effective the modular program of DLSU is. I went to DLSU one time to observe a class, auditing theory in particular, and they told us all about the modular system. i really waS skeptic kasi for a class like auditing theory, i spent a whole weekend reading the code of ethics, a month to absorb it, and its just a fraction of the whole aud theory. how can students appreciate it in two weeks or so?

more, when we took up the 6-unit intermediate accounting in UP, i must admit i had a hard time coping with it because it was so fast paced albeit taking it for one whole semester. i dont even remember now half of what we took up in that course. im thankful for our aud prob class that i get to relearn everything again.

although yes, for two weeks, the students only have 1 subject to take, the marginal utility of focusing on the same subject for two weeks declines rapidly, i believe. so how are the students coping? what are their feedbacks?

uy sa the exchange yun diba ;)

anyway, gaya ng sabi nila, wala ka talagang matatandaan after kasi sa sobrang bilis inabsorb ng sapilitan ng mga estudyante yung mga lessons. pero good thing lang na sa last term eh review term, so basically helpful yun para matandaan ng mga students yung mga pinag-aralan nila. pero kung wala yung review na yun, patay-patay na talaga, lalo na sa board.

babavoom
Mar 12, 2007, 10:03 PM
I took the modular class last last term. particularly financial and cost accounting. I think the problem with the program is the retention thing. Yung ibang mga lesson di ko na masyadong natatandaan. For me, I think it's more effective having the traditional class.

anong year ka? my buddy from accountancy said that the admin is thinking kung effective daw yung Modular sa board exam. kasi mababa ang passing rates natin before sa CPA... sabi pa nga daw nila... ayaw nila matulad sa engineering ng mapua, where everything is done so fast. kaya naman super bagsak ang passing rates nila sa board exams.

anyways on topic, i think both has the same, equally good programs.
campus environment na lang ang pag isipan mo. :)

Lasallian_2005
Mar 13, 2007, 07:42 PM
105 dear..

Kris_Aquinoo
Mar 13, 2007, 07:54 PM
Wag po magpaloko kay babavoom. Alternick lang po yan ni student_01 at ***_cbe_d_best.


Hi girlaloo and boylaloos, accounting is also one of my options for college. However, some people told me that accounting is an extremely boring job since you sit all day long and do accounting stuff. And they told me na magsasawa o mabobore rin ako sa accounting.

Is this true? Any violent reactions? :)

babavoom
Mar 13, 2007, 10:58 PM
^^ you must have confused me with ***_cbe_d Best... sya yung alternick dito... :rolleyes:

cla_cbe_d_best
Mar 13, 2007, 10:59 PM
hahaha!!! okay kung ako si babavoom.

I heard na super sexy ka daw sabe ng mga pexers na nakakita na sayo.

Anyway, I am a bisexual. maybe we can try? send me a Private Message. ;)

babavoom
Mar 13, 2007, 11:05 PM
hahaha!!! okay kung ako si babavoom.

I heard na super sexy ka daw sabe ng mga pexers na nakakita na sayo.

Anyway, I am a bisexual. maybe we can try? send me a Private Message. ;)


hindi ako nakikipag meet sa mga alternick at may sakit sa utak like you... your not even my type...

your NOT even a LA SALLIAN. :rolleyes:

bliss15
Mar 14, 2007, 11:54 AM
@threadstarter
hmm i tink depnde un s learning style kng san k mas makakaaral
kasi pag UP ata research based

im from dlsu
modular kami ngyon pero ours is hell
*** social lyf kac 7-10 days per course kami....
every other day exams...

pero for their batch improve n curiculum
I tink its 3 hours a day tpos every saturday may unit test then before d mod start may retreat dw

if dlsu more on spoon fed kami lht ibibigay u onli nid to study^^

@tantararantaran

hmm we took auditing principles in 2 wix
sumtyms i feel n d nmin mastered yng mga binabsa nmin
coz we had 2 read ol those buks in jst 10 days
meron p mga paper submissions n tym consuming>.<
and ryt nw nasa 3rd module n ako and i dnt tink i still remember
much from d previous modules

keener
Mar 14, 2007, 12:28 PM
Remember... may quali rin ang MFI ha. Mahirap din sha.

I have friends na lumipat sa ibang courses like MMG dahil di makapasa ng quali ng MFI.

Ang eco-accounting ng DLSU, mahirap talaga. Like the other people from UP say, kailangan desidido ka. Why not go for other com-com (double business degrees) in DLSU? Unless trip mo talaga ang accounting.

Basta masasabi ko lang, if you're considering the environment, masarap talaga sa DLSU. Masaya. Kahit accounting ka, you will get the oportunity to stop and "smell the flowers". Meron pang "Modular Cup". Haha. Sportsfest ng mga accounting majors. My point is, the community will make sure that you will not lose your mind completely. Masasaya at mababait kami. :D (Not that di mabait ang mga taga UPD. Pero very homey environment talaga ang DLSU).

Oh and since I read something about the Manabats... There are 2 daughters of one of the Manabats in DLSU's accounting program right now. One's a friend of mine. Her younger sister just recently shifted from accounting to marketing (though she really had good grades to continue with accounting). I guess it just wasn't her thing.

jslider
Mar 14, 2007, 05:03 PM
Wag po magpaloko kay babavoom. Alternick lang po yan ni student_01 at ***_cbe_d_best.


Hi girlaloo and boylaloos, accounting is also one of my options for college. However, some people told me that accounting is an extremely boring job since you sit all day long and do accounting stuff. And they told me na magsasawa o mabobore rin ako sa accounting.

Is this true? Any violent reactions? :)

If you do bookkeeping, yes boring talaga.
Talagang magsasawa ka kung sa accounting firm ka papasok (balagoong ka na liit pa sweldo), and worst baka hindi ka na makapag asawa...
eh ano ang maganda... kapag decision maker ka ng kompanya using accounting skills (managerial accounting) and ituloy mo ng Law or magturo ka sa undergrad/review

leverage17
Mar 23, 2007, 12:43 PM
Dlsu And Up- The Best

n3X
Mar 25, 2007, 05:35 PM
Okay, if you want to be the BEST, i mean really the BEST, as in pinakamagaling ka sa country sa Management, Finance, Acctg, Marketing, then go to UP BAA. Because nag-aalis talaga sa program, matira matibay. And its no joke being with the best students in the country. Even within the UP system, a large percentage of the most competitive students go to BA (most competitive not necessarily most intelligent). Marami nang lumubog mga pangarap dahil diyan.

But if you really, really want to be an accountant na good naman, go to La Salle. At least, less frustration.

Kung bumagsak ka sa BAA naman, you could go anywhere. Parang MBB and ECE sa Diliman din. I know two persons umalis ng BAA pero grumadweyt ng BA sa UP, tapos nag-accountancy sa La Salle and PSBA. 2nd course effek.

So going back ulet, which is better?
Facilities > DLSU
Intellectual Capital (Teaching, research, etc) > UP
Student Selectivity > UP
Program (Content, flexibility, etc) > UP

Overall > UP
Pero dapat kasama din dito yung recruiter's grades to be fair talaga in practice. And I'm not talking about rich people being on (instead of getting to) the top because they OWN the business.

In any case, I iterate here that UP has won the ACPACI for like, I dont know 8 years now), FINEX, for 3 years? Isama mo na rin PANA and Stratmark, and other compets.

mcgirl04
Mar 25, 2007, 10:20 PM
Both schools have excellent Accounting programs.

Nickrbine
Apr 17, 2007, 09:07 PM
Duh.
Take UP.
DLSU is way Overated.
I think UP is more Effective. a lot more effective
and remember. It's up to you if you'll learn from a program or not

lifeline20
Apr 17, 2007, 10:14 PM
offtopic:

nako matatalino ang BAA ng UP. madami akong classmate sa econ na mga taga BA hehe...

lalo na *** isa kong classmate sa econ 190.2... lagi ko nakikita legs nya... :-) hehe joke lang...

though they have their own statement... laging may nasasagot ang BA people compared with the Pol Sc peeps hehe... pero di kami papatalo sa Pol Sc!! :-))

Gordonblue86
Apr 19, 2007, 11:26 AM
2ND CHOICE for college was DLSU- BS. ACCOUNTANCY
3RD CHOICE- UP-D -B.S. ACCOUNTANCY

I'll pick DLSU