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Gising
Feb 17, 2007, 03:13 AM
Nauna ang ang Shanghai rankings nung 2003. Nainis ang mga Ingles kaya inilabas naman ang THES. Syempre gustong sumama ng mga Itlayano sa pamamagitan ng Webtronics.
Shangahi Rankings vs. THES. Sino nga ba sa dalawa?
Magbasa muna tayo ng magkaintindihan.
Challenges in Ranking Universities
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:jPz7ZsSorvIJ:www.cwts.nl/cwts/AvR-ShanghaiConf.pdf+Shanghai+Rankings+vs.+THES&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5
Gising
Feb 17, 2007, 03:18 AM
To quote from the paper:
"Clearly, the basic question is: How can we identify the best universities in the world? From this basic question, we derive several research questions that have to be answered in the context of ranking procedures. First, to which activities are the leagues related?
In the case universities, to teaching or to research? Or to both of these main academic tasks? Second, how do we measure the performance with respect to the chosen activity in an international context? Third, is it possible to conduct these performance measurements for, in fact, all universities in the world in a relatively easy but still reliable and valid way? Fourth, is it possible to express this performance in just one numerical value? If this is the case, then, in principle, a ranking can be made.
This, however, immediately implies a next, fifth, question: what is the statistical significance of the difference in, for instance, ranking position 10 and 15. The sixth question is, like in a football (soccer) league: how many members can or should be covered by a specific league? In other words, at what position of the ranking should the league be ‘closed’?"
Gising
Feb 17, 2007, 03:41 AM
Sa totoo lang, matagal na ding usapan ang THES vs. Shangai Rankings. Kung hindi umabot sa Pex, hindi ako nagtataka. Baka hindi nakayanan ng mga bashers mula sa iba't ibang paaralan.
Mga isinulat ng mga Akademiko... mga bashers kaya niyo to. Basa na.
Bibiliometric Rankings of World Universities
(Shanghai's bibliometric vs. THES's survey approach)
Leiden University, Netherlands
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:HaKmPUm9Xv8J:www.cwts.nl/hm/bibl_rnk_wrld_univ_full.pdf+Shanghai+Rankings+vs.+THES&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=13
Center of Architectural Sociology
http://www.archsoc.com/kcas/bestunis.html
A World of Difference
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:nvHjbHkRsywJ:www.educationalpolicy.org/pdf/World-of-Difference-200602162.pdf+Shanghai+Rankings+vs.+THES&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=34
Broadening the Criteria: Lessons from the Australian Rankings
Melbourne Institute
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:IUMpwK0TrngJ:melbourneinstitute.com/research/micro/downloads/Educ%2520Page/ShanghaiWCU-1.pdf+Shanghai+Rankings+vs.+THES&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=14
O ayan. Pinagusapn sa mga iyan ang Shanghai Rankings at THES. Magbasa tayo ha.
Gising
Feb 17, 2007, 05:29 AM
Basa lang muna.
mac_bolan00
Feb 17, 2007, 08:20 AM
choose between snotty, condescending limeys and slopeheaded, bucktoothed, anti-environement, anti-freedom drug smugglers?
what do you think?
Kopibun
Feb 17, 2007, 04:23 PM
Sira ulo ata itong si Gising e.
student_01
Feb 17, 2007, 06:38 PM
akala ka ba "enough na with this stupid ranking?"
cla_cbe_d_best
Feb 17, 2007, 11:32 PM
tama.. sira ulo talaga yan.. asan na ang mods. :bash:
Frank H
Feb 19, 2007, 10:27 PM
choose between snotty, condescending limeys and slopeheaded, bucktoothed, anti-environement, anti-freedom drug smugglers?
what do you think?
As a British person of Chinese "ethnicity", I find this sort of "Humour" totally out of order - and I hope the Moderators will think likewise.
And, incidentally, I am neither snotty (except when I have a cold:mecry:), nor slope-headed (a racist slur from American racists towards all East Asians, including Filipinos). My teeth are probably no more prominent than mac_bolan's:D . (I also deplore drugs, loathe the Chinese Communist government, and am a committed "green" environmentalist).
On the other hand - I admit to perhaps being "condescending", especially when faced with posts/posters such as this.
Frank
(London, England)
Gising
Feb 20, 2007, 03:57 AM
As a British person of Chinese "ethnicity", I find this sort of "Humour" totally out of order - and I hope the Moderators will think likewise.
And, incidentally, I am neither snotty (except when I have a cold:mecry:), nor slope-headed (a racist slur from American racists towards all East Asians, including Filipinos). My teeth are probably no more prominent than mac_bolan's:D . (I also deplore drugs, loathe the Chinese Communist government, and am a committed "green" environmentalist).
On the other hand - I admit to perhaps being "condescending", especially when faced with posts/posters such as this.
Frank
(London, England)
Don't mind the racist, brown Americans.:rotflmao:
The fact is, no Filipino University made it to the "Shanghai Rankings".
I guess the Chinese ranking have more faith in the Nobel Prize Winners and Fields Medalist. They even factored in the Social Sciences citations in the ranking game unlike THES. .:rotflmao:
Look at the noypis, now every one's had enough of the rankings game. Typical Filipino mentality. Pinoyness unplugged. :lol:
mac_bolan00
Feb 20, 2007, 11:15 AM
As a British person of Chinese "ethnicity", I find this sort of "Humour" totally out of order - and I hope the Moderators will think likewise.
And, incidentally, I am neither snotty (except when I have a cold:mecry:), nor slope-headed (a racist slur from American racists towards all East Asians, including Filipinos). My teeth are probably no more prominent than mac_bolan's:D . (I also deplore drugs, loathe the Chinese Communist government, and am a committed "green" environmentalist).
On the other hand - I admit to perhaps being "condescending", especially when faced with posts/posters such as this.
Frank
(London, England)
in my best mon tulfo reply:
alright, mr. frank H. maybe you're not a snotty bucktoothed slopehead. but i stand by my earlier statement.
cutieplx16
Feb 20, 2007, 12:34 PM
^ wag nyo na lang pansinin yang si gising. Hindi kasi graduate yan ng alin man sa 4 na university na nilalait nyan kaya yan nagkakaganyan...:lol:
Frank H
Feb 20, 2007, 09:34 PM
in my best mon tulfo reply:
alright, mr. frank H. maybe you're not a snotty bucktoothed slopehead. but i stand by my earlier statement.
What a pity. I find it sad that so many people are unnecessarily insulting to others - even in jest.
Hatred and prejudice are all too prevalent aspects of human nature. In fact, all the conflicts in the world show that it's much easier to stir up hatred - and much, much harder to turn it down.
Gising
Feb 24, 2007, 05:39 AM
Hatred is the hallmark of the Academe, NCAA and UAAP sections.
When presented by a methodology that could not accommodate the Pinoy ego, many resort to name calling.
No wonder Pinoys around the world would rather brag among themselves in their own little enclaves that our race is the best. Brag among OURSELVES that we are the best is the mantra that keeps the Pinoys going. If the Jews have the Torah during the Babylonian captivity, we have our delusions of grandeur despite the overwhelming evidence of deficiency.
Gising
Feb 24, 2007, 05:48 AM
^ wag nyo na lang pansinin yang si gising. Hindi kasi graduate yan ng alin man sa 4 na university na nilalait nyan kaya yan nagkakaganyan...:lol:
Nice analysis of the difference in methodology of the THES and the Shanghai rankings. Keep it up.
Gising
Feb 24, 2007, 05:55 AM
Sira ulo ata itong si Gising e.
When confronted with a methodology that is not accomadating towards us Pinoys, you guys call the messenger a fool. Noypi talaga.:rotflmao:
Gising
Feb 24, 2007, 07:48 AM
No takers because the truth is hard to face.
Shoot the messenger. Ban the messenger if you will.
THES and Shanghai ranking will come out again this year. Next time, the Philippine press will notice the discrepancy in the rankings.
Even if the bashers cum police officers are able to convince the Moderators to ban Gising, the Shanghai rankings will not be suppressed...
drama...hehehe..
GR8_GUY
Feb 24, 2007, 12:13 PM
No takers because the truth is hard to face.
Shoot the messenger. Ban the messenger if you will.
THES and Shanghai ranking will come out again this year. Next time, the Philippine press will notice the discrepancy in the rankings.
Even if the bashers cum police officers are able to convince the Moderators to ban Gising, the Shanghai rankings will not be suppressed...
drama...hehehe..
:lol:
Is this a wake-up (no pun intended) call for all of us? It's impossible to miss your knack for the dramatic. I can almost hear you profess "the prophet has no honor in his country, gets persecuted and crucified". That would be truly going over-the-top. But, hey, that's your style. Keep it up, pal. It ruffles feathers but catches the attention.
My name is A. S. Leep.
Gising
Mar 30, 2007, 04:28 AM
Any takers?
Gising
Mar 30, 2007, 04:34 AM
^ wag nyo na lang pansinin yang si gising. Hindi kasi graduate yan ng alin man sa 4 na university na nilalait nyan kaya yan nagkakaganyan...:lol:
:rotflmao:
Basta kasama sa ranking school ko.. ikaw ano? Huwag ka na.:D
cla_cbe_d_best
Mar 30, 2007, 04:45 AM
hindi ba si bisaya yang si Gising??? ewan ko lang ha, pero i have this strong feeling na si Warwick guy den yan... hmmm
Gising
Mar 30, 2007, 04:57 AM
hindi ba si bisaya yang si Gising??? ewan ko lang ha, pero i have this strong feeling na si Warwick guy den yan... hmmm
Hindi ka naman La Salista.:rotflmao:
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