View Full Version : Xando, Xenical and Such: Are they effective?
delphic_oracle
Nov 6, 2006, 12:56 AM
And are they even safe? Testimonials? Complaints? Anyone?
PS: I was milling around here, wondering if this should be posted here. Mods, please just transfer this if it shouldn't be here. Thanks.
Bchemist
Nov 6, 2006, 01:53 AM
You might lose 5lbs using those alone...but unless you do strength training and intense cardio like HIIT 3 times per week, your body will adapt and rendenr them ineffective.
stepehenyan@12
Nov 6, 2006, 05:44 PM
there's no such thing as a quick fix!!!
Fairly Odd
Nov 6, 2006, 09:03 PM
The problem with these medications is they inhibit fat absorption including essential fats coming from your diet.
Do you believe that there is no side effect???
Fat :) is good only in moderation.*okay*
theExchangeStud
Nov 6, 2006, 09:29 PM
feeling ko mas ok fitrum tpos sabayan mo ng boxing parang si juday hahahaha
Leo_Wyatt
Nov 8, 2006, 06:06 PM
I tried Hydroxycut and I lost 10 pounds in 2 months. One of the best fat burning pills I have tried so far. Medyo risky coz the fat burning method is it makes you palpitate even when your body is idle. That's why soda, coffee, tea, and other drinks with caffeine are a BIG NO NO!
My rating: 8/10
stepehenyan@12
Nov 8, 2006, 08:38 PM
ginagamit ko din dati yan kaso pinagsabihan na wag ko na gamitin kasi di ka makakatulog sa gabi kasama na pulpitation mag strength training ka na lang without the supplements it works for me. all you need is food and water and a good nights sleep and rest after workout. siguro maganda mag multivitamins ka na lang. wag na hydroxycut.
stepehenyan@12
Nov 10, 2006, 08:52 PM
nakita ko kanina commercial ng xenical yung sino ang balyena ngayon ang ginagawa ksi ng xenical pinapauuka like having a diarrhea. honestly you may have lose the extra pounds but if you have the beer belly you really need to do a lot of sit ups so you will have a flat tummy. kala mo naman xenical user halatang commercial model. me na admit na ganyan sa ospital kasi nagtatae sya yun pala umiinom ng xenical di nya alam yun pala ginagawa ng gamot pinauu sya eng! eng! iinom ng fatloss di pala alam kung ano epekto. people will do just to have a quick fix so much for commercials.
massmonster
Nov 11, 2006, 09:10 PM
nakita ko kanina commercial ng xenical yung sino ang balyena ngayon ang ginagawa ksi ng xenical pinapauuka like having a diarrhea. honestly you may have lose the extra pounds but if you have the beer belly you really need to do a lot of sit ups so you will have a flat tummy. kala mo naman xenical user halatang commercial model. me na admit na ganyan sa ospital kasi nagtatae sya yun pala umiinom ng xenical di nya alam yun pala ginagawa ng gamot pinauu sya eng! eng! iinom ng fatloss di pala alam kung ano epekto. people will do just to have a quick fix so much for commercials.
There's no such thing as spot reduction so you can't have a flat tummy by simply doing situps. It's all about proper nutrition and training...
ferkhite
Nov 12, 2006, 11:29 AM
ako grabe daming box na ng xenical nainom ko maniwala kayo sakin importante pa din exercise ...strenght training ang kailangan talaga...with a bit of diet...surely it will work
blakedaddy
Nov 13, 2006, 01:45 PM
ako grabe daming box na ng xenical nainom ko maniwala kayo sakin importante pa din exercise ...strenght training ang kailangan talaga...with a bit of diet...surely it will work
Magpakita ka lang lagi I'll assure you you'll lose more pounds than drinking a truckload of xenical
princessdiane30
Nov 15, 2006, 04:09 PM
I've tried using hydroxicut. true, nakakapayat siya tapos sabayan mo pa exercise. i lost a few pounds. kaso i got scared kase lakas ng pulpitation ko, la ako appetite for food & di ako makatulog. so i stopped! i still believe na dapat pagpaguran mo ang pagpapayat. it doesnt happen overnight. mas fulfilling pa siya talaga....
aiden
Nov 21, 2006, 04:29 PM
I'm all for exercising pero i'm open sa weight loss supplements. Especially for obese people or those who need lower triglycerides. Some doctors actually recommend Xenical to those who need to lose weight but can't go to the gym. (CAN'T is not equal to WON'T) A concrete example for that is my mom who is wearing a back and neck brace.
Xenical is non systemic. It won't curb your appetite. I works in the gut where it absorbs about 1/3 of your fat consumption. If you're already on a low fat diet, I think there's no need for Xenical.
stepehenyan@12
Nov 21, 2006, 07:06 PM
if you keep making excuses for everyone that using weight supplements will make them loose weight your just like those infomercials that i see on tv. so your mom is wearing a neck brace for obvious reasons. So did your mom's doctor prescribed xenical to her? and why? and for how long. this is the same thing that happened to rosanna roces when she starts biachin to dr. vicky bello about her post liposuction as to why she started to bloat again the doctor said that she still needs to excercise to maintain her figure meaning there's no quick fix. and it cost her career boohoo!!!
sorry to be rude but that is not a word of encouragement for people who would like to loose the extra pounds by saying take the weight supplements to loose weight. same thing with working out you don't need amino acids or whey or creatine or steroids to have a ripped body.
if people are obese they need to control there cravings or instill discipline then go to the gym. One of the problems of obese people is that they are trying to outwit themselves by taking pills or those infomercials quick fix to loose weight whatever and by avoiding the gym. somebody or someone must encourage or motivate these people to go to the gym oneway or the other.
cookiepao
Nov 26, 2006, 09:02 PM
any feedback on Xando?
lilsweetcotton
Nov 28, 2006, 10:15 AM
I think xando is effective otherwise it wont be endorsed by Kris Aquino...we know how sensitive kris is when it comes to trust-endorsements...and my friends have tried it and it surely is effective...BUT remember, you dont have to rely on slimming pills or diet supplements alone...you also need to do exercises daily...its very important otherwise you will be very dependent of the slimming/diet pills that if you stopped it, you'll have this yoyo effect, tataba ka ulit..so while taking the pills, go on with the exercise habitually then after the pills, continue and maintain your body through exercise, its the most effective way than slimming/diet pills...
With regards to Xenical - yes, it is somehow effective also...you'll lose excess fats once you go to the toilet...BUT again, if you stopped taking this, and you begin to eat and eat again, chances are, you'll be a lot bulkier than your previous weight... so advice again, if you take pills, do exercises, if you stop, maintain the exercise habit...(DAILY)... if youre determined, do exercises and not take diet pills coz you dont want to take diet pills for the rest of your life just to lose weight...
cassio
Nov 28, 2006, 04:58 PM
Di ako naniniwala sa paggamit ng slimming pills.
Gumagamit niyan dati kaibigan ko. Pumayat siya pero itinigil niya nung himatayin yung anak ni Jeoy Marquez na gumagamit din.
Xando? Just because endorsed by Kris, ok na siya? Tingnan nyo kaya hitsura ni Kris sa Deal or No Deal.. ang taba niya dun hanggang ngayon! Gumagana nga ba talaga ang pills sa kaniya? Kayo na ang humusga.
E di ba, alaga din ni Vicky Belo si Kris?
prettyglam_04
Nov 28, 2006, 11:14 PM
sis messy ang xenicaL e...poopoo mo yung oiL na kinain mo.
green tea na Lang ako
chellebuena
Nov 30, 2006, 09:50 AM
hindi b kaya naman mataba c kris ngayon is bec she's preggy? hehe... kunsabagay c boy abunda parang di naman nagbago built ng katawan e....
ezra is better
Dec 2, 2006, 12:41 PM
what's the difference between xenical, xando and fitrum? pati sa price, ano prices nito?
vAleR
Dec 8, 2006, 03:17 PM
hey how about L-Carnitine? any one knows about this?
Bchemist
Dec 8, 2006, 03:34 PM
hey how about L-Carnitine? any one knows about this?
There's a version of it called Acetyl L-Carnitine aka ALCAR, but it's outrageously expensive here, since you need to take 3 GRAMS per day to see dramatic weight loss. If you know someone who can buy it for you in the States, do so. Check out http://www.beyond-a-century.com
For example, a 30 day supply is about $9: http://www.easycart.net/BeyondACenturyInc./Amino_Acids_Single_A-L.html
Here I think it's about $50.
vAleR
Dec 8, 2006, 11:49 PM
There's a version of it called Acetyl L-Carnitine aka ALCAR, but it's outrageously expensive here, since you need to take 3 GRAMS per day to see dramatic weight loss. If you know someone who can buy it for you in the States, do so. Check out http://www.beyond-a-century.com
For example, a 30 day supply is about $9: http://www.easycart.net/BeyondACenturyInc./Amino_Acids_Single_A-L.html
Here I think it's about $50.
thanks man... pero diba meron naman dito sa pinas nyan?
Ichecheck ko pa nga sa GNC eh... hehehehe!!! meron ako nakita sa website nila 500mg...
Bchemist
Dec 9, 2006, 05:09 AM
thanks man... pero diba meron naman dito sa pinas nyan?
Ichecheck ko pa nga sa GNC eh... hehehehe!!! meron ako nakita sa website nila 500mg...
PX goods stores often have it...but it's still 4-5 times more expensive than the States. You really need to take 3 GRAMS per day if you expect a significant result. This is the feedback of many individuals I've known over the years. I can't wait to try it myself.
dannybe
Dec 9, 2006, 07:51 AM
does ALCAR really effective? Any testimonials?
Bchemist
Dec 9, 2006, 10:00 AM
does ALCAR really effective? Any testimonials?
You can read this writeup (and no, I don't endorse that website, but it's good writeup nonetheless) for more info.
The testimonials are word of mouth from many talented athletes in the States and Canada that swear by it...saying you GOTTA try it....it makes your fat just fall off if you are strength training normally (of course). I've known many of these individuals for years and they are cynical about supplements just like I am. I believe them since they would not make up stuff like this....with so many saying the same thing. It's worth a shot. Megadosing certain amino acids has been known to do dramatic things.
Here's my own list of supplemements and ergogenic natural aids that can increase performance, one way or another:
http://www.eclipsegym.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=45
lytblu
Dec 27, 2006, 11:21 PM
yung fitrum ba pag ininum mo, will it make you want to poopoo din?
metropolitan
Jan 1, 2007, 09:50 AM
i am taking Xenical this Xmas season to help block fat. i believe it works because i am seeing and feeling the effects.
lytblu
Jan 2, 2007, 10:20 PM
^anong mga naramdaman mong side effects?
mykerz_19
Jan 3, 2007, 08:16 PM
yeah how about Fitrum?
sspidey
Mar 9, 2007, 02:59 AM
bump up
any other feedback
The_Grey_Matter
Mar 9, 2007, 06:41 AM
Magpakita ka lang lagi I'll assure you you'll lose more pounds than drinking a truckload of xenical
haha maaannn..!!! "truckload":lol: :bop:
grabe natawa **** ako hehehe :lol:
The_Grey_Matter
Mar 9, 2007, 08:53 AM
thanks man... pero diba meron naman dito sa pinas nyan?
Ichecheck ko pa nga sa GNC eh... hehehehe!!! meron ako nakita sa website nila 500mg...
i checked out gnc website and there are a couple of l carnitine jars there, there's l- carnitine alpha lipoic acid, l-carnitine 500, pro performance l-carnitine. l-carnitine 250.
so what you should drink among these L- carnitines? hehe
Monny
Sep 14, 2007, 03:58 PM
i was very worried about my weight because i was unable to loss my weight then my doctor suggest me to go with effective diet pills and he offered me to take Xenial i.e approved by FDA . so i suggest you to take only that diet pills which are approved by FDA because FDA approves few weight loss pills (http://www.total-diet.com/92-fda-approved-weight-loss-pills/)
adlp1ph
Jan 9, 2008, 01:49 AM
meron locally made na L carnitine
by pascual laboratories
http://www.pascuallab.com/products/pharmacare/carnicor.html
its carnicor
pero its not for weight loss
its somewhat prescribed for patients with heart problems or some sort...
ok din ba yun hehehe
floreno
Jan 12, 2008, 02:19 AM
Fitrum is like a mild version of Hydroxycut...kaya ako...I take Fitrum kapag may Gym sessions after.
faolafini
Jan 12, 2008, 03:49 PM
eh yun sa Fit and Right ?? may L carnitine din yun diba .... ?
ano ba ang mas marami ??? Fitrum or ito ???
faolafini
Jan 14, 2008, 11:26 AM
There's a version of it called Acetyl L-Carnitine aka ALCAR, but it's outrageously expensive here, since you need to take 3 GRAMS per day to see dramatic weight loss. If you know someone who can buy it for you in the States, do so. Check out http://www.beyond-a-century.com
For example, a 30 day supply is about $9: http://www.easycart.net/BeyondACenturyInc./Amino_Acids_Single_A-L.html
Here I think it's about $50.
grabe you need to drink 10 Fit and Right to achieve a 3 gram Lcarnitine!! (330 mg per serving/bottle)
marlo_kalbo
Mar 15, 2008, 12:32 PM
You don't need to ingest L-carnitine... you get high amounts of that if you have adequate vitamin c. there is a stanford univ research regarding vitamin c and l-carnitine.
xenical doesn't work by making you pupu... It works by stopping fat absorption from diet. diarrhea is the side effect.
xando? never heard... will have to read on that...
a123
May 11, 2008, 10:41 PM
any feedback on xando? parang gusto ko syang i-try...
Bchemist
May 12, 2008, 01:10 AM
You don't need to ingest L-carnitine... you get high amounts of that if you have adequate vitamin c. there is a stanford univ research regarding vitamin c and l-carnitine.
xenical doesn't work by making you pupu... It works by stopping fat absorption from diet. diarrhea is the side effect.
xando? never heard... will have to read on that...
L-Carnitine and Vitamin C are completely different.
Besides...the effective metabolic enhancing amino acid is ACETYL-L-Carnitine
L-Carnitine pales in comparison to the acetylated version.
a123
May 13, 2008, 10:24 PM
xando? anyone?
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