Monitors: whats the diff. between LCD and flat screen?

[amoundici]

I want to buy a LCD/flat screen to reduce the space the monitor takes up, for better quality and it just looks better. :redsmile:

ive checked out PC express and im wondering if this is a good buy..

LG 15" L1530S silver black LCD (http://www.pcx.com.ph/showcase/profile.asp?id=1022)

i can't seem to find any reviews on this certain model but it's LG.. and it's an LCD i think..

i play games.. and use high-graphic programs so the color definition is impt to me.. would you recommend this? it's right smack within my budget and im just hoping to find a second or third (or 12198631th) opinion..


thanks!

[loc0]

Color is better on a good quality CRT, LCDs just lose out on that aspect. If it's for colors in games, that's probably just fine. But for work such as web, graphic and print design you should go for a CRT.

[amoundici]

oooh.. i guess i just always thought that LCD's give better quality. :s

[loc0]

CRTs have better color and wider viewing angle but take up a lot of space and tend to heat up. LCDs take up less space and look nicer on a desk :p

[amoundici]

waah.. decisions decisions..

and you'd think by now they'd come up with LCDs that have better color definition than CRTs..

[rhk111]

Don't forget the fact that LCDs consume a lot less electricity than CRT displays.

For similar sized screens, say, 15", an LCD will consume about 2/3 LESS power than a CRT.

[kelunji]

viewable size is also different. when a CRT is stated to be 17", viewable area is actually smaller than a similarly rated 17" LCD. sa LCD kapag sinabing 17", 17" talaga ang viewable area.

[DeepZer0]

hmm i not sure whether that claim about CRTs having better color because I find that false. I develop web designs AND play games. CRT's just seem to cheat a little on a slight blurred effect so every output seems to be smooth (that's why it also hurts our eyes). While LCDs give precise output pixel per pixel (anti-aliasing helps to why edges on curves still look smooth -- thank god!). When I design websites, I get color consistencies between all LCDs and some properly configured CRTs. But, whenever I make designs from CRT, there's ALWAYS this problem with inconsistent output from all CRTs and LCDs. You'll mostly get comments from site visitors that this color is "too bright" or "this color is too dark I can't see it" The reason for these inconsistencies is because CRTs have different color output when your literally on the North or South part of the globe (one part of the world have reddish shade, and the other blueish. Just like when you flush toilets, some countries have the water spin on a different direction). LCDs are all consistent on this, unless of course that LCD is busted. That's why I design and view webpages on LCDs. I got 0 comments on colors so far. Capiche?

[rhk111]

Well, I just changed my monitor from CRT to LCD, & I did observe, that there does seem to some loss in terms of the "brightness" of the colors when comparing LCD to CRT screens.

For me, the shift is worth it, though. I get a lot of savings in terms of power consumption, & the loss in color brightness is still tolerable, the unit is still functional.

[ein]

Mas deep yung contrast ng CRT kaysa LCD.

@DeepZer0, baka hindi lang naka-calibrate ng maayos yung CRT mo.

[you101]

mga magkano b power consumption ng isang crt monitor? meron b figures para mavisualize *** savings s kuryente

[parvus1202]

Ang pagbili ng LCD monitor ay hindi lang basta bili. Iba pag pang games o pang workstation at iba rin ang pang office. Bakit? Dahil iba-iba ang Contrast Ratio at iba-iba din ang Response Time not to mention syempre ang sizes Aspect Ratio at resolutions. Pag may Contrast Ratio na 500:1 ibig sabihin mas malinaw ang white sa black ng 500 times. Umaabot yan ng hanggang 10,000:1. Ang response time naman ay kung gaano kabilis magpalit ng kulay, meron 8ms, 12ms, 6ms. Mas maliit mas mabilis at mas mahal. Sa resolution, may 1280 x 768, 1280 x 800 at 1280x720. Although kahit na anong size ng monitor ay parepareho lang din ang resolution. Ang Aspect Ration naman ay kung widescreen ( 16:9 ) o normal tv screen (4:9). 16:9 mahal din.

[amoundici]

hmmm.. i also thought that you can view the LCD from more angles over the CRT. But a website said that you can view the CRT from a wider angle.. but yes, when you say 17".. its flat out 17"..

[loc0]

This should help you decide

CRT vs. LCD - The Pros and Cons of Each

Resolution & Viewing Quality
Resolution on a CRT is flexible and a newer model will provide you with viewing resolutions of up to 1600 by 1200 and higher, whereas on an LCD the resolution is fixed within each monitor (called a native resolution). The resolution on an LCD can be changed, but if you're running it at a resolution other than its native resolution you will notice a drop in performance or quality.

Both types of monitors (newer models) provide bright and vibrant color display. However, LCDs cannot display the maximum color range that a CRT can. In terms of image sharpness, when an LCD is running at its native resolution the picture quality is perfectly sharp. On a CRT the sharpness of the picture can be blemished by soft edges or a flawed focus.

A CRT monitor can be viewed from almost any angle, but with an LCD this is often a problem. When you use an LCD, your view changes as you move different angles and distances away from the monitor. At some odd angles, you may notice the picture fade, and possibly look as if it will disappear from view.

Refresh Rate
Some users of a CRT may notice a bit of an annoying flicker, which is an inherent trait based on a CRTs physical components. Today's graphics cards, however, can provide a high refresh rate signal to the CRT to get rid of this otherwise annoying problem. LCDs are flicker-free and as such the refresh rate isn't an important issue with LCDs.

Dot Pitch
Dot pitch refers to the space between the pixels that make up the images on your screen, and is measured in millimeters. The less space between pixels, the better the image quality. On either type of monitor, smaller dot pitch is better and you're going to want to look at something in the 0.26 mm dot pitch or smaller range.

Screen (viewable) Size
Most people today tend to look at a 17-inch CRT or bigger monitor. When you purchase a 17-inch CRT monitor, you usually get 16.1 inches or a bit more of actual viewing area, depending on the brand and manufacturer of a specific CRT. The difference between the "monitor size" and the "view area" is due to the large bulky frame of a CRT. If you purchase a 17" LCD monitor, you actually get a full 17" viewable area, or very close to a 17".

Physical Size
There is no denying that an LCD wins in terms of its physical size and the space it needs. CRT monitors are big, bulky and heavy. They are not a good choice if you're working with limited desk space, or need to move the monitor around (for some odd reason) between computers. An LCD on the other hand is small, compact and lightweight. LCDs are thin, take up far less space and are easy to move around. An average 17-inch CRT monitor could be upwards of 40 pounds, while a 17&-inch LCD would weigh in at around 15 pounds.

Price
As an individual one-time purchase an LCD monitor is going to be more expensive. Throughout a lifetime, however, LCDs are cheaper as they are known to have a longer lifespan and also a lower power consumption. The cost of both technologies have come down over the past few years, and LCDs are reaching a point where smaller monitors are within many consumers' price range. You will pay more for a 17" LCD compared to a 17" CRT, but since the CRT's actual viewing size is smaller, it does bring the question of price back into proportion.

http://www.webopedia.com/DidYouKnow/Hardware_Software/2005/all_about_monitors.asp

Personally I use both CRTs at the office and at home for games and design. 19" 1600x1200 75Hz at home, 17" 1280x1024 60Hz at the office. Yeah, my home monitor's heaps better.

[parvus1202]

Kaya iba ang size ng 17" na CRT at 17" LCD ay dahil sa CRT ay may plastic covering sa sides ng tube. Bale ang kinuhang sukat ng CRT ay iyung entire front ng tube without the plastic cover. Whereas sa LCD may cover itong glass na extended sa size ng LCD plate, kaya iyun ang may plastic cover at hindi iyung LCD.

[rhk111]

mga magkano b power consumption ng isang crt monitor? meron b figures para mavisualize *** savings s kuryente

My 15" AOC was consuming around 90 watts. My LCD consumes only 28 watts, more than 66% LESS power consumption.

[amoundici]

Just a summary i made to help others out..


This should help you decide


Resolution & Viewing Quality


CRT=
flexible and high range viewing resolutions (up to 1600 x 1200 new models)
can be viewed from almost any angle
the sharpness of the picture can be blemished by soft edges or a flawed focus

LCD=
fixed resolution (usually 2 options, high and low)
cannot display the maximum color range that a CRT can
picture quality is perfectly sharp at native resolution
odd angles

Refresh Rate


CRT=
annoying flicker
today's graphics cards, however, can provide a high refresh rate

LCD=
flicker-free
refresh rate isn't an important issue

Dot Pitch

Dot pitch refers to the space between the pixels that make up the images on your screen, and is measured in millimeters. The less space between pixels, the better the image quality. On either type of monitor, smaller dot pitch is better and you're going to want to look at something in the 0.26 mm dot pitch or smaller range.


CRT=
depends on dot pitch

LCD=
depends on dot pitch


Screen (viewable) Size

CRT=
purchase a 17-inch CRT monitor, you usually get 16.1 inches

LCD=
purchase a 17" LCD monitor, you actually get a full 17" viewable area, or very close to a 17"


Physical Size

CRT=
monitors are big, bulky and heavy
average 17-inch CRT monitor could be upwards of 40 pounds

LCD=
small, compact and lightweight
17&-inch LCD would weigh in at around 15 pounds


Price

CRT=
cheaper
Throughout lifetime, CRT have more power consumption
LCD=
more expensive
Throughout a lifetime, however, LCDs are cheaper as they are known to have a longer lifespan and also a lower power consumption

[kaeyishere]

Can you post the cheapest price of LCD monitors? Where can I find it?

[lytblu]

what does crt stand for?

[rhk111]

Can you post the cheapest price of LCD monitors? Where can I find it?

P5-6k, 2nd hand. Bought one at www.tipidpc.com for P5.5k, NEC brand, been using it for about 3 months now. Okay naman ang pic quality, & so far, ala naman problema.

'Medyo naninilaw lang yung plastic'. My advise, is get those being disposed from offices. At least, you will be able to look at the unit before buying it.

[zerglings]

what does crt stand for?

Cathode-Ray Tube

[blue_tracer]

in my honest opinion, crt monitor still produces the best quality picture.

na-miss ko rin yung 17" hitachi crt monitor dati. 17" sony lcd monitor (at home) naman sa akin kaya lang 2002 old model pa. hirap palitan, mahal.. hk kasi. 80% na ng offices puro flat screens na sila dito.

yung thread setter na balak bumili ng LG ----> ok yan lalu na sa price range. not bad. eksakto yan.

nasabi na ni amoundici at parvus1202 halus lahat ng important points sa pagbili at pagpili ng LCD monitor (flickers, contrast ratio, resolution, etc..)

isa na lang:

before buying your LCD monitor, have it tested first for dead pixels. though it is usually covered under the warranty, mabuti na yung iwas abala. meron naman yatang pang testing na video.

pag all-black ang screen, look for any possible presence of white dots.. tapos reverse color naman.. may iba pa yatang combination ng color na pang testing.. tinamad ako nun nang bumili ako. isang beses ko lang tiningnan kung may dead pixels.

space saver pa rin ang flat screen monitor, siyempre.

peace. :)

[disturbed_erick]

I would consider LCDs only for a dual-triple monitor setup.
I have 2 17" CRTS side by side and its taking up too much space. :D

Wala pakong money,.