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crispypata
Oct 12, 2000, 08:31 AM
Ayon kay Cardinal Sin nawalan na siya ng moral authority para mamuno sa bansa natin.

Ano sa palagay ninyo? Dapat na bang mag-resign si ERAP sa pagka-Presidente ng Pilipinas?

Sumagot tayo Kabataan.

qwerty78
Oct 12, 2000, 11:52 AM
hindi ako aktibista. hindi ako magrarally sa mga kalye at hind ako sisigaw ng "Erap, ibagsak!"

pero sana mapalayas na siya... sa panahon ni ramos, kahit papano hindi ganito kababa ang tingin ng ibang tao sa atin. kahit papano eh nailagay tayo sa mga magazine dahil sa mga positive feedback tungkol sa pinas. ngayon, nakatingin ang buong mundo sa atin dahil sa jueteng, sa asg...

eto, bagsak na ang piso. tumaas ng isang piso ang pamasahe. ahh, ewan ko. sakit sa ulo ang nangyayari ngayon dito!!!

sana naman may matinong presidente na pumalit kay erap balang araw!!!!

Light&Easy
Oct 12, 2000, 02:14 PM
OPO! Si erap buko na lulusot pa! this guy need a lot of guidance for he know not what he is doing!...the truth hurts pero kung sa kagaya nyang walang konsensya palagay ko di nya ito mararamdaman!...

ERAP SHOULD GO!....

mark08
Oct 12, 2000, 02:27 PM
sa akin pananaw ay hindi dapat mag-resign si erap! ang tanging ginagawa nya ay ang kanyang nalalaman an mabuti sa baot ng kanyang nalalaman. ang dapat na lamang gawin ng mag tao ay suportahan sya dahil ibinoto sya ng nakararami na nabulag sa kanyang slogan at mga panagako at papel sa pelikula bilang bida at tagapagtanggol ng api. kung mayroon mang dapat sisihin, yun ay ang mga tao na bumoto. dahil bumoto sila hindi dahil sa isyu, bumoto sila dahil sa kasikatan ng isang tao. bow.

qwerty78
Oct 12, 2000, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by mark08
sa akin pananaw ay hindi dapat mag-resign si erap! ang tanging ginagawa nya ay ang kanyang nalalaman an mabuti sa baot ng kanyang nalalaman. ang dapat na lamang gawin ng mag tao ay suportahan sya dahil ibinoto sya ng nakararami na nabulag sa kanyang slogan at mga panagako at papel sa pelikula bilang bida at tagapagtanggol ng api. kung mayroon mang dapat sisihin, yun ay ang mga tao na bumoto. dahil bumoto sila hindi dahil sa isyu, bumoto sila dahil sa kasikatan ng isang tao. bow.


naks, you're so noble and all; so forgiving.

pero sa tingin ko, isang malaking responsibilidad ang pagiging pangulo. hindi ito training ground para sa mga aspiring leaders. if you want to serve, you better know what you're doing. kung hindi ka pa handa, you better find a way to practice on your leadership skills first.

*******-***** din kasi minsan ang mga botante. nakakainis. and now, EVERYBODY has to suffer, all because the majority chose erap. how nice...

MsJoelle
Oct 12, 2000, 07:20 PM
i'm not really harsh on people... but to erap, napipilitan ako!!! actually, not everything naman is erap's fault... he's actually doing what he promised the poor people of this country... ERAP PARA SA MAHIRAP... that's probably the reason why he wants all of us to become mahirap...

to all lasallians out there, erap is not a lasallian... let's all be proud of it! animo la salle!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

kyla109
Oct 12, 2000, 09:06 PM
definitely. he's turning our country into shambles...

ben cabigas
Oct 12, 2000, 09:12 PM
YES!!!

i don't understand why he still has the guts to remain in office when he knows(or i hope so) that his countrymen do not support or even trust him anymore. sayang talaga ang pilipinas. we could be way, way, way, way, better than most countries if corruption wasn't present in the government. o well . . . that's life.

p0m@
Oct 12, 2000, 11:28 PM
well, a lot has happened and a lot has been said.

its time he should clean all the mess up.

he's got a limited time to prove something and do so.

wish him all the best and all the luck.

thats all.

:)

TaasKamao
Oct 14, 2000, 10:42 PM
tama lang siguro na pakinggan na ng ating pangulo ang dumaraming mula sa sambayanan na sumisigaw na siya ay magbitiw na sa tungkulin.

wika nga ng mga nagpupuntang mendiola: "Sobra nang pahirap! Patalsikin si Erap!"

Mabuti na siguong ganun ang isigaw ng bayan kaysa sa nung panahon ni Marcos na "Sigaw ng Bayan, HIMAGSIKAN!"

tingin niyo?

Blue Knight
Oct 15, 2000, 05:24 AM
Opinyon ko jan eh kung papalitan si erap dapat eh complete revamp din ang mga gabinete. Sa mga ugat ng nakaupo nakakapit ang linta ng mga ganid at sakim. Crony na nagpapahirap sa taong-bayan na mga may sariling interes ang inatupag.
Isa pang nakaka-panggigil ay under the table na jueteng na tumatagal sa kamay ng mga ganid bago dumating sa PAGCOR.

Sana pag dumating ang takdang panahon sa pagbaba ni Erap magising sana ang mga tao na hindi lang pangulo ang may komitment sa pag papa-unlad ng bansa kundi tayong mamamayan din. Tanggapin natin na ang Pinas ay mahihirapan umunlad kung walang pagkakaisa (read : In The Lense of the Filipino People).

I guess Erap should step down but we should do our own part in helping this country to get out from the tag of " THE SICKMAN of ASIA" or if not ---> REBOLUSYON ANG SAGOT SA KAHIRAPAN.

~kahit baliktarin ang tatsulok at sila pa rin ang nasa tuktok walan paring tigil ang gulo~

crispypata
Oct 15, 2000, 11:02 AM
Maraming salamat sa mga inilagay ninyong opinyon.

Sa isang klase ko, napag-usapan namin ang isyung yan. Sabi ng isa, nakupo tatlong taon pa ang titiisin natin. Pag natapos ang termino ni ERAP, P65=$1 na daw.

Sabi ng isa kong kaklase, napaka-positibo naman daw ng pananaw na 65 to $1. Masyado daw positive dios ko!

a mahaginan tayo ng swerte sa Yugoslavia...

LiLJj
Oct 15, 2000, 11:25 AM
i think he should resign. things are getting worse!


to MsJoelle: :lol::lol::lol:

originally posted by MsJoelle
...to all lasallians out there, erap is not a lasallian... let's all be proud of it! animo la salle!!!:lol::lol::lol:

crispypata
Oct 15, 2000, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by MsJoelle
to all lasallians out there, erap is not a lasallian... let's all be proud of it! animo la salle!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

:lol:

sabotahe
Oct 15, 2000, 12:50 PM
actually, sana ma-assasinate na lang siya. hehe. no, he should resign.

fishball
Oct 16, 2000, 12:07 AM
...the smartest move ERAP will do is to RESIGN!!!...
puhleeeez...spare the children!

bloody_man
Oct 17, 2000, 08:20 PM
about the reaction of Cardinal Sin about the situation, i don't think he has the right to do that because for the reason of seperation of state and church in the constitution. it is clearly stated. Erap to resign or not? we should follow the constitional procedure of impeaching the president! we should also think what will be the outcome of this impeachment. are we going to benifit on it or it will only worsen the problem in all sector of our country? so, we should think deeper. hindi basta sa SALITA lang! :boom:

sabotahe
Oct 17, 2000, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by bloody_man
about the reaction of Cardinal Sin about the situation, i don't think he has the right to do that because for the reason of seperation of state and church in the constitution. it is clearly stated. Erap to resign or not? we should follow the constitional procedure of impeaching the president! we should also think what will be the outcome of this impeachment. are we going to benifit on it or it will only worsen the problem in all sector of our country? so, we should think deeper. hindi basta sa SALITA lang! :boom:

the cardinal is entitled to what he believes in. he uses his influence on the people to advocate his cause for a better government. i think he is one of those that people should emulate since hindi lang siys puro salita.

:angel:

skirT
Oct 17, 2000, 10:04 PM
they should hire someone who's already on death row to shoot erap. diba, he has nothing to lose, hero pa sya.
no seriously, he should definitely resign. di malayong aabot ng P60 - P70 ang exchange rate to dollar. tsk tsk tsk.

sabotahe
Oct 17, 2000, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by skirT
they should hire someone who's already on death row to shoot erap. diba, he has nothing to lose, hero pa sya.
no seriously, he should definitely resign. di malayong aabot ng P60 - P70 ang exchange rate to dollar. tsk tsk tsk.


parang pinaraphrase mo yung pi-nost ko ha?

marie_17
Oct 17, 2000, 10:46 PM
i think he should definitely resign... kc naman kcing laki ng tummy nya *** ego nya! neway, he should step down kc parang sinayang lang nya *** mga ginawang progress (kung meron, well meron naman *****) ng mga predecessors nya. i know that it's not entirely he's fault because most of the ppl put him in his position. Binoto ng masa e. Pero he should also be sensitive na ppl doesn't want him to lead anymore, lalo na ngayon.

He's not doing any better naman amid all of those criticisms. Even the church (well most of them neway)wants him down. So step down for the nth time!(haven't I stressed that already?)If he wants to be a good leader, he should be a good follower. Follow the ppl's will! Resign na bago ka ma-impeach! mas nakakahiya! :)

Pokloy
Oct 18, 2000, 11:48 AM
i think no because if he does para nyang sinayang *** vote ng mga bumoto sa kanya specially the trust of the poor who beleives that he is their only hope. we should give him full suppport for the better of all filipinos and give him a chance to prove that he is worth the presidency...

Lek-Lek
Oct 18, 2000, 12:48 PM
First and foremost, I would like to say that I was never for President Estrada, even during the campaign, I really hated him. But he won, he won overwhelmingly, and everyone that he didn't cheat during the elections. And anyone who is voted as President is entitled to a 6-year term, that is what the Constitution provides. Nobody, has the right to ask such an elected official to step down from office. Yet, if Gov. Singson's allegations are true, there is a way to strip Estrada off the presidency, even if he doesn't want to. The Constitution is very clear that an impeachment is possible. Now, assuming that Gov. Singson is telling the truth, certain steps will still have to be followed because this is what DUE PROCESS requires. Due process has two faces: substantial and procedural, such that if any of the required steps by law is not strictly followed, then, by all means, we do not respect the Constitution. Philippine jurisprudence further dictates that an accused is presumed to be innocent, unless proven otherwise. But in this case, by what title do we have to render judgment to the President? No one! Not even the Supreme Court Chief Justice.
Secondly, so many of us believe Gov. Singson for the reason that he's a former friend of the President; that he's not a partof the opposition. But take note that when President Estrada was sworn in to office, he promised something. He said "walang kumpare, walang kaibigan, walang kamag-anak.." He was applauded for that. Now, President Estrada proved that with Gov. Singson, and because of that, Gov. Singson retaliated with his expose'. Now, where do we really stand? The President has proven and fulfilled his promise. But, do we appreciate it?
Third, why don't we think of the long-term implications of these resignation calls? Don't you think that if the President resigns, everyone will squabble for power?? Leftwing secessionists will take advantage of that opportunity.
Our parents fought for the democracy that we are enjoying in 1986. It was so hard to enshrine the Philippine Constitution that we have right now. Why don't we just let the rule of law unfold? Why don't we follow strict legal proceedings if indeed, we want to kick President Estrada out of his position? Why is it that all of us, think of Ramos as a hero? Have we forgotten what he did in the Expo Filipino scam?? The millions of money that he spent on his foreign trips? And yet, was he able to appease the poor? Well, I think, President Estrada was able to reach out to the poor. He gave land titles to so many homeless, our GNP is up (unlike in Ramos' time when it was a negative), he was the first President ever to visit the smallest towns in Mindanao, he started so many agricultural programs. Indeed, President Estrada's accomplishments were lacking in the diplomatic luster that Ramos had. Let's reflect on it...the President was not yet convicted, let's trust the rule of law..let's respect the Filipino masses in the provinces for after all, we, students, we who belong to the upper strata of society, we who claim to know better; we only comprise a very small fraction of the Philippine population.

Lek-Lek
Oct 18, 2000, 12:51 PM
To add to my previous post:
Let's listen to the silent majority in the poor provinces. It doesn't mean that what we want, that what we adhere is the voice of the majority of the Filipinos. We are just but a speck of a big nation of 70 million Filipinos.

chloe15
Oct 19, 2000, 01:34 AM
personally, i think they should leave pres. estrada alone. :angry:

alam na nga natin na may problem ang president tapos puro negative pa iniisip natin about him. :(

WE SHOULD HELP HIM NA LANG! :~(

hindi nya naman nya kasalanan na na- elect sya sa time kung kelan naghihirap ang phils. at dumadami ang problems eh.

hindi naman uunlad ang bansa natin kung puro panlalait at negative ang iniisip natin about our pres. :grrr:

i don't think may right si cardinal sin to say that. i mean tigilan nya na kaya ang page- ekstra sa government at wala din sya sa position para magma- linis dba? he's always using former pres. cory to do what he wants kasi alam nya na magagamit nya si pres. cory dahil super religious yun unlike erap. :rolleyes:

sorry sa mao- offend ko kaso opinion ko lang po.
:girl: :shy: :girl: :shy: :girl:

shayla_kylie
Oct 19, 2000, 11:16 AM
hay naku kuna ang mga gang lords nga eh hindi mahulihuli eh si erap pa?

at naiinis ako sa mga people...eh kayo ang nagluklok kay erap sa kinalalagyan nya in the first place! ang presidente ay hindi parang sapoatos na pagpinagsawaan mo na lang itatapon mo na lang!!!


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wild_pidgey
Oct 21, 2000, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by Lek-Lek
First and foremost, I would like to say that I was never for President Estrada, even during the campaign, I really hated him. But he won, he won overwhelmingly, and everyone that he didn't cheat during the elections. And anyone who is voted as President is entitled to a 6-year term, that is what the Constitution provides. Nobody, has the right to ask such an elected official to step down from office. Yet, if Gov. Singson's allegations are true, there is a way to strip Estrada off the presidency, even if he doesn't want to. The Constitution is very clear that an impeachment is possible. Now, assuming that Gov. Singson is telling the truth, certain steps will still have to be followed because this is what DUE PROCESS requires. Due process has two faces: substantial and procedural, such that if any of the required steps by law is not strictly followed, then, by all means, we do not respect the Constitution. Philippine jurisprudence further dictates that an accused is presumed to be innocent, unless proven otherwise. But in this case, by what title do we have to render judgment to the President? No one! Not even the Supreme Court Chief Justice.
Secondly, so many of us believe Gov. Singson for the reason that he's a former friend of the President; that he's not a partof the opposition. But take note that when President Estrada was sworn in to office, he promised something. He said "walang kumpare, walang kaibigan, walang kamag-anak.." He was applauded for that. Now, President Estrada proved that with Gov. Singson, and because of that, Gov. Singson retaliated with his expose'. Now, where do we really stand? The President has proven and fulfilled his promise. But, do we appreciate it?
Third, why don't we think of the long-term implications of these resignation calls? Don't you think that if the President resigns, everyone will squabble for power?? Leftwing secessionists will take advantage of that opportunity.
Our parents fought for the democracy that we are enjoying in 1986. It was so hard to enshrine the Philippine Constitution that we have right now. Why don't we just let the rule of law unfold? Why don't we follow strict legal proceedings if indeed, we want to kick President Estrada out of his position? Why is it that all of us, think of Ramos as a hero? Have we forgotten what he did in the Expo Filipino scam?? The millions of money that he spent on his foreign trips? And yet, was he able to appease the poor? Well, I think, President Estrada was able to reach out to the poor. He gave land titles to so many homeless, our GNP is up (unlike in Ramos' time when it was a negative), he was the first President ever to visit the smallest towns in Mindanao, he started so many agricultural programs. Indeed, President Estrada's accomplishments were lacking in the diplomatic luster that Ramos had. Let's reflect on it...the President was not yet convicted, let's trust the rule of law..let's respect the Filipino masses in the provinces for after all, we, students, we who belong to the upper strata of society, we who claim to know better; we only comprise a very small fraction of the Philippine population.

The Marcoses are not convicted either. Pero alam nating guilty sila. Cut the crap. Grabe ka bumisita lang sya sa mahihirap saka sa maliliit na bayan ay mabuti na sya. Bilangin mo nga ang mga babae ni Erap at kung ano ang mga negosyo ng mga babae niya.

Respect the Filipino masses? Nakita mo ba yung mga magsasaka sa Quezon Circle na nag-rally? Anti - Erap yon. Nakita mo rin ba yung mga pro-Erap rally sa mendiola na may portable toilet? Halatang hakot. At yung mga binigyan ng mga lupa sa Tala. Pati ba naman ketong aagawan pa nya ng lupa. Anong klaseng presidente yan.

Huwag sundan ng isang pagkakamali ang isang pagkakamali.

ANONG KLASENG PILIPINO KA!!!!!

Lek-Lek
Oct 21, 2000, 04:06 PM
To Wild_pidgey: As I have said in my post and I would like to emphasize it; THE MASSES ELECTED ERAP INTO OFFICE OVERWHELMINGLY! And all of us have to respect that mandate given to him by the Filipino masses. Even I myself, I do not have the right to call for his resignation because I never liked him, and I am not part of the masses to whom Erap is appealing. I do not like Erap, but seeing the support he gets from the masses, especially here in the provinces, I cannot do anything but conceed. We students do not have the right to call for Erap's resignation because probably, no one like us ever voted for him in the first place! But since we, who claims to know better than the peasants in far-flung provinces, we just cannot do anything about that. That is what democracy states. The MAJORITY wins. And I personally believe that, based on what I usually hear among the masses here in the province, Erap is still very popular among them. We already have an impeachment case filed in Congress, let us just wait and respect whatever the outcome is.

Blue Knight
Oct 21, 2000, 07:39 PM
Oo nga naman tama si Lek-Lek.

Ako i don't want erap..sabi ko nga sa previous message ko eh " I think Erap should step down" pero hindi ko sinabi na let's force him to step down...anlaki ng pagkakaiba nun ah.

Let's see what will happens kung may katuturan nga ba o wala.

daeva
Oct 22, 2000, 01:39 PM
Maybe 90% of the Filipinos believe that he shouldn't resign. Sana matauhan na ang tao. Hindi natin kailangan ng action hero para mapaahon tayo sa hirap. Hindi natin kailangan ng magaling sumuntok, or yung nakakapatay ng kalaban. Kailangan natin ng MABUTI at MARUNONG na tao para mamuno sa ating bayan. Maybe a 100% good and knowing person doesn't exist. But I'm sure na kahit 70% man lang .. meron. Si ERAP ba ang taong ito? DEFINITELY NOT! Kahit siguro 30% .. hindi parin eh ... (sa pagiging MARUNONG palang ..). He IS an IMMORAL person. Ilang asawa at anak pa ba ang kailangan nyang patirahin sa malalaking mansyon para mapatunayan ito? Not to mention the gambling issues (yung mga dati pa .. hindi pa kasama yung jueteng).

I really think he should step down. We don't need an action hero. We need a leader. A Good and Responsible one. Sana matauhan na ang mga Pilipino.

true_steppers
Oct 22, 2000, 09:39 PM
Erap should step down!!!!

pranZ
Oct 23, 2000, 05:18 PM
AGREE!!!erap should step down...i think with the present on-going activism, rallies, demonstraions..it's pretty obvious the people doesn't want erap in office anymore..
oh yah..there a petition here in la salle 'bout erap...
if you want him to resign..sign in...
he's also all over our bulletin boards here in campus...

sabotahe
Oct 23, 2000, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by chloe15
personally, i think they should leave pres. estrada alone. :angry:

alam na nga natin na may problem ang president tapos puro negative pa iniisip natin about him. :(

WE SHOULD HELP HIM NA LANG! :~(


the fact that we ask him to resign is an indication that we want to help him since we are asking him to do the most honorable thing to do.

we cannot leave this thing alone because the apathy of the people will only fill in the bowls of corruption.

helping a good president is always the best thing to do. helping a president who has lost the support from a large part of his constituents is another thing. the word "help" in this case is re-defined.

bubsy
Oct 24, 2000, 10:47 AM
i don't think erap should resign. if he should, then so must the other politicians who are involved in the scam...and i don't want to think how much of them will be left in office. erap is doing his best, the only problem is that the filipinos had this impression of him as a worthless, stupid actor because it was the image he built with his erap jokes. if we really care for our country, then we should trust our government, our president. besides, if he resigns, who will be the president? cory? pleeease! she was after all the main reason why the philippines is now a third world country...she was even worse than marcos! how dare her talk like that to the current president as if she's done our country a lot of good! you see, what we need now is unity and cooperation...don't be carried away by what the power hungry, i-can't-wait-to-be-president politicians are saying. i'm sure the upcoming elections have a lot to do with whose side they're on!

qwerty78
Oct 24, 2000, 02:16 PM
to bubsy

kung nagkaproblema man tayo sa panahon ni Cory, yun ay dahil sa transition state ito. so understandable na naging rocky yung gov't natin noon.

please don't compare cory to marcos. in case you've forgotten, a lot of people died for stupid reasons during marcos' time. ewan ko kung naabutan mo si marcos. ako hinde, at masaya akong hindi ko siya naabutan dahil sa wala akong balak mabuhay sa panahon na limited ang pagkilos ko.

as for erap, ang dami niyang dapat i-explain sa mga Pilipino. sana, totoo ang mga sinasabi niya, at sana wala nga siyang ginagawang kagaguhan, kundi, dapat lang na mapatalsik na siya.

gummi
Oct 27, 2000, 09:05 PM
Erap should resign....The strong clamor for his resignation is very much evident........he has lost the trust and confidence of a majority of the Filipino people!!!!!!!!!

Let's support the Erap resign movement by visiting http://www.elagda.com and let our collective efforts do the works!

wild_pidgey
Oct 27, 2000, 10:49 PM
Lek-lek:

If the majority said that 1+1=3 would you not correct them. You have to do the right thing always. The reason that many are still pro-Erap because they are mis-informed. We have the right to have good governance. And we have the right to clamor for resignation.

p0m@
Oct 29, 2000, 08:36 PM
anyway, im gonna write a bunch of words and i hope sum1 would have the time to read my piece:

anyway, personally, i dont know what to do for the betterment of the country. economically, we are way down and so are the other asian countries. the dollar has plummeth and we cant do anything about it but stare at the newspapers and wait till tomorows big dollar news. if you get to update ur dollar count w all other asian countries, they too are suffering.

on jueteng, many other or should i say 99.9% of politicians are participating themselves of the said game. gloria macapagal, on the other hand, is also one of the biggest gambling lords among the political arena (sources say). she's got a person (just like Atong ang of erap) on her hand and making her president of our country, well. . . . she will just campaign.

on the brighter side, erap gets money from other gambling lords (MILLIONS), not directly to the people. while before, ramos got his money from the pinoyexpo scam, getting BILLIONS from the people, galing magtago.

when erap resigns, i dont know what remedy we could get. we should not just think of erap resigning. we should have our plan so that when erap decides (if he!!) to resign, we have a plan, an action to take, a path that would lead our way to progress.

and to the erap supporters, they have a point. instead of pushing through with all the brouhahas and rallies, we should help one another, together build up a nation that would be of progress in all aspects. we just puncture our nation everytime we take time rallying, protesting, and meddling with these stuff. it makes it easier when we construct rather that destruct.

but the thing is, we are a democracy. erap should listen to the people. he should be listening to the cry of the filipinos. and as a deomcracy, we have the power, we have the right, and we have the voice to make things happen.

the question is. .
is the servant listening to his masters?
i dont think so.

Vic Sotto & the Poponuts
Oct 30, 2000, 11:02 PM
Y dont we ask our dear friends from ateneo, same skul where our BELOVED president came from... o cge, may mambabara, reaction na *** :p :bleh:

uptowngirl
Oct 31, 2000, 12:54 AM
He should. Its the kindest thing to do for the Filipino people. Our economy can never recuperate, if he doesn't step down. Despite his claims that the recent scandal has nothing to do with the economic performance of our country, it is obvious that we are hurt pretty badly. The scandal has scared our investors away. If we have a jueteng lord and thief for a President, the investors are probably thinking the rest of his constituents are thieves too.

Whatever!!!
Nov 2, 2000, 09:52 PM
hindi dapat sya mag-resign kasi *** papalit sa kanya? c arroyo?!?! u don't solve a problem by putting in another problem! what erap should do is face all the charges against him, apologize and admit that he's wrong and turn things around by leaving his stupid cronies behind! they're the main reason that's why these things are happening to us! do u think there are still plenty of HONEST government officials around?!? most of them are after their own interests and not their country's! karamihan naman nangongorakot eh! it's just a matter of marami ba o kunti? yung tipong nahahalata na ba ng iba o garapalan na talaga! tayo mga kawawa... i just hope these people, people who voted for these politicians will think twice next time at hindi porket he's a good actor or ***, maganda ang kanyang kampanya... etc. sya na bobotohin agad! what made erap won was that he was "maka-MASA" erap daw para sa mahihirap... eh karamihan ng pilipino nasa lower class so they voted him, thinking he'll give them or rather us a better future! hay!
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crispypata
Nov 2, 2000, 10:11 PM
Gloria is not the issue here. Its ERAP! He should resign.

crispypata
Nov 2, 2000, 10:19 PM
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keiji
Nov 2, 2000, 11:20 PM
ever since erap became president i knew it would be quite a task to do something about both his negative image to certain sectors and to cushion the effects of the asian economic crisis.

and i thought that since he already won, we cannot do anything else but help him. wala na tayong magagawa. alangan namang magtulakan tayo pababa. madadamay lang ang ekonomiya.

pero with the recent developments sa political crisis na ito, mukhang wala ng choice for erap but to resign--guilty or not.

the fact na he's losing the confidence of a growing number of sectors is alarming enough. i got to talk with a DOF section chief about three weeks ago and he said na although the department has yet to conduct simulations (nung panahon na yon), hindi maikakailang may negative impact ang apparent loss of confidence na ito. for one, political stability is critical to investor confidence.

maaaring skeptic ang ilan sa papalit na administrasyon pero i don't think na magiging as "trapo" sila ng papalitan nilang administrasyon.

back then, people thought that the aquino administration would be the savior of the nation. pero hindi rin. wala ngang diktador pero hindi rin naman umunlad gaya ng inaasahan ang kabuhayan ng ilan.

sa ngayon, wala man tayong reassurance na matino (on all aspects) ang papalit sa erap admin, we can at least be reassured of an improved political scenario (that is, kung walang untoward incident na mangyayari).

we have learned from edsa. we surely will have learned something about good governance from this "juetenggate."

again, erap shld step down.

uptowngirl
Nov 5, 2000, 03:36 AM
I wanna quote KAMATAYAN,

"Better to be led by an incompetent leader than an incompetent and corrupt leader."

:lol:

Lesser of two evils.

crispypata
Nov 5, 2000, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by uptowngirl
I wanna quote KAMATAYAN,

"Better to be led by an incompetent leader than an incompetent and corrupt leader."

:lol:

Lesser of two evils.

tsaka huwag lasenggero....

pHaTaSS
Dec 10, 2000, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by p0m@
anyway, im gonna write a bunch of words and i hope sum1 would have the time to read my piece:

anyway, personally, i dont know what to do for the betterment of the country. economically, we are way down and so are the other asian countries. the dollar has plummeth and we cant do anything about it but stare at the newspapers and wait till tomorows big dollar news. if you get to update ur dollar count w all other asian countries, they too are suffering.

on jueteng, many other or should i say 99.9% of politicians are participating themselves of the said game. gloria macapagal, on the other hand, is also one of the biggest gambling lords among the political arena (sources say). she's got a person (just like Atong ang of erap) on her hand and making her president of our country, well. . . . she will just campaign.

on the brighter side, erap gets money from other gambling lords (MILLIONS), not directly to the people. while before, ramos got his money from the pinoyexpo scam, getting BILLIONS from the people, galing magtago.

when erap resigns, i dont know what remedy we could get. we should not just think of erap resigning. we should have our plan so that when erap decides (if he!!) to resign, we have a plan, an action to take, a path that would lead our way to progress.

and to the erap supporters, they have a point. instead of pushing through with all the brouhahas and rallies, we should help one another, together build up a nation that would be of progress in all aspects. we just puncture our nation everytime we take time rallying, protesting, and meddling with these stuff. it makes it easier when we construct rather that destruct.

but the thing is, we are a democracy. erap should listen to the people. he should be listening to the cry of the filipinos. and as a deomcracy, we have the power, we have the right, and we have the voice to make things happen.

the question is. .
is the servant listening to his masters?
i dont think so.

crispypata
Dec 11, 2000, 11:38 AM
Enap na!!!

****** nang mga prosecutors yan! Galingan sana nila. Galing ni Preng Etelitto Mendoza. Napapaisip tuloy ako!!!!

:lol: