Why buy authentic?

[leporidae]

Hey everyone,

I really don't see the rationale behind purchasing authentic designer items (in the philippines).

If people know you're rich, they'd assume a fake bag you're wearing is authentic.

If people know you're just middle class, they'd assume an authentic bag you're wearing is fake.

If you're middle class and you're buying authentic items to make people think you're rich, then that's just pathetic. Besides, people wouldn't think you're cool to have those expensive things, they'd think you're an idiot to spend that much money.

Leporidae

[drquack]

To each his own, I guess. Some people splurge on their cars, on food, stuff for their house, and some splurge on their clothes. How come you had to qualify "(in the philippines)"? So your premise isn't valid in other countries?

[leporidae]

With other things, there really is a difference between the real and the fake.

I don't mind people paying for expensive cars, food, houses or holidays, because there really is that added value from paying more (tangible).

But the extra amount of money spent on designer clothes goes to purchasing the brand name (intangible).

That "philippines" remark is due to the fact of the abundance of counterfeit goods on the market. Also due to the low wages in this country which makes it all the more ridiculous to splurge on designer items. (I know, I know, this applies to many other asian countries. But this is besides the fact)

[chrisboy]

Because sometimes authentic really translates to better quality. Now wouldn't we all want that?

Clothes can be hugely overpriced these days. Most especially shoes. It's up to you to find the right compromise. If you're an intelligent consumer, this should be easy. There are still a lot of good deals out there.

[leporidae]

I highly doubt the average consumer would be able to properly assess the quality of some products. Besides, those A class counterfeit goods are just as good (or even better) as the authentic ones.

[TravelBug]

I also don't see why someone would manufacture fake items. If the manufacturers of these items claim that the quality of their counterfeit goods is even better than the real thing, then why don't they just create their own line instead of riding on the popularity of the well-established brands? This is stealing.

[leporidae]

Because people don't buy goods for their quality, but for the brand name.

[TravelBug]

But do you agree that buying fake items should be considered stealing? Intellectual Property Rights?

[leporidae]

I can say it is probably immoral. But I haven't studied copyrights yet so I can't give an authoritative answer concerning the extend of its illegality.

[TravelBug]

I can say it is probably immoral. But I haven't studied copyrights yet so I can't give an authoritative answer concerning the extend of its illegality.
There you go. It is immoral and at the same time illegal to sell and purchase fake items.

For me, one simple rule applies. I'm not wearing it if I cannot afford it.

[1718]

well first of all, all logos are (suppose to be) copyrighted. so if ever theres a fake lacoste shirt with its logo then thats already stealing.

[Nerfy]

first of all... fake stuff is illegal. why cant they make their own original stuff and not use someone elses identity/idea?

aha... and thats why people buy authentic. not because of the brand but because of the style.

of course, there are those people who will buy a brand simply because of the name... but not all people are like that.

[leporidae]

first of all... fake stuff is illegal. why cant they make their own original stuff and not use someone elses identity/idea?

aha... and thats why people buy authentic. not because of the brand but because of the style.


That is not true at all. Would you pay as much money for something that looks like a lacoste polo shirt without that crocodile?

Btw, my intentions in this thread is not to encourage people to buy fakes, but to point out that one shouldn't buy designer clothes if they can't easily afford it.

[escadasport]

For me, I will (since I'm not earning my own money yet) buy authentic stuff only if that brand has that kind of design that other brands don't have, or because of the quality. And I don't like shopping sa mga tiangge kasi sa crowd, where you usually find the fake stuff. In the case of the clothes, if it's really plain, I wouldn't buy authentic stuff, I'll just buy those plain shirts sa SM.

another, I think it's useless if you're gonna buy authentic stuff here in the philippines unless
1) you always go to parties (where famous & big ppl meet, since "authentic
branded" stuff are "in")
2) you always go to places like malls where rich people also hang out
3) you always travel especially to Europe where you can get arrested for
carrying fake high-end brand stuff

But then again, maybe some people buy authentic stuff because they have the money and they just want to. Out of fun. It's their money, they worked hard for it, let them spend it the way they want to. They don't really care what other people think about them. Enjoy life.

[mcgirl04]

I buy fake jewelry but not purses. I'm not into designer purses, anyway. I buy nice inexpensive ones. It's just a purse for me. As long as I can put my stuff in there and wear it around my shoulder and doesn't break after a few uses, I'm okay. And as long as the earrings look nice on me, I'm okay. Although I wouldn't mind spending more on a car. And even on a car, I wouldn't go in over my head.

[laarni]

People buy so-called authentic or name brands because:

1. Para pogi :D
2. Para sabihin na can afford sya! :rotflmao:
3. Para sosi
4. Para sikat
5. Para ma-impress everyone

Aminin! *okay*

Sa totoo lang, pagtabihin nyo yung dalawang items, pareho materials, pareho workmanship, pareho, pareho quality, pareho lahat except yung isa me tatak na Gucci. Syempre mas preferred pa rin ng mga show-offs ang Gucci. Me mga kilala ako na kahit na magkautang-utang, makabili lang ng Gucci.

Yes, I am also not advocating buying fakes. But let’s get real and not fake. :lol: People buy things because of the names attached to it, not the so-called quality. While it is true that many authentic or name brand items are quality-made, so are many fake items so camouflage lang yung sabihing buy it for quality.

[slowjamz21]

For me, one simple rule applies. I'm not wearing it if I cannot afford it.

Precisely.

People are buying fake brands in order to "show off". That is a lie to themselves.:bop:

[peeyaa79]

for me, buying authentic means 3 things: quality, excellent after-sales service and prestige

[clawed_out]

I buy the real deal because I like it with all the reasons that have already been stated.

Why would you buy a Kia & replace the emblem with a Benz?

People who wear fakes & all the BS like that aren't fooling anyone but themselves. Sad.

[aeneas]

for me, buying authentic means 3 things: quality, excellent after-sales service and prestige

I buy authehtic/branded stuffs because of its prestige...

and because ... I'm such a show-off....

and more importantly ... because I can afford it!

[Verbl Kint]

People buy so-called authentic or name brands because:

1. Para pogi :D
2. Para sabihin na can afford sya! :rotflmao:
3. Para sosi
4. Para sikat
5. Para ma-impress everyone

Aminin! *okay*


Nasa pagtingin mo yan. Kung iniisip mo na sinusuot niya yon para magpa-impress eh baka ganon ang iniisip mo pag bumili ka ng brand names. Yung iba ay bumibili ng brand names kasi suki na sa kanila ito at alam nila na tumatagal nga ang ganitong mga damit/gamit.


Sa totoo lang, pagtabihin nyo yung dalawang items, pareho materials, pareho workmanship, pareho, pareho quality, pareho lahat except yung isa me tatak na Gucci. Syempre mas preferred pa rin ng mga show-offs ang Gucci. Me mga kilala ako na kahit na magkautang-utang, makabili lang ng Gucci.

I have yet to see a product similar to anything that Gucci makes that is cmoparable to Gucci but does not have a "sosi" brand name. In fact, show me two items that are "pareho materials, pareho workmanship, pareho, pareho quality, pareho lahat except yung isa me tatak." Malamang yung tatak nung isa eh sikat din.


Yes, I am also not advocating buying fakes. But let’s get real and not fake. :lol: People buy things because of the names attached to it, not the so-called quality. While it is true that many authentic or name brand items are quality-made, so are many fake items so camouflage lang yung sabihing buy it for quality.

You judge consumers so harshly, my dear. In fact, good quality does indeed exist. A good example is that most of the clothes that I bought in the 90's (designer names withheld) are still in good condition until today. Unlike the fake items that I got as gifts, which did not last as long.

[TravelBug]

People buy so-called authentic or name brands because:

1. Para pogi :D
2. Para sabihin na can afford sya! :rotflmao:
3. Para sosi
4. Para sikat
5. Para ma-impress everyone

Aminin! *okay*

Sa totoo lang, pagtabihin nyo yung dalawang items, pareho materials, pareho workmanship, pareho, pareho quality, pareho lahat except yung isa me tatak na Gucci. Syempre mas preferred pa rin ng mga show-offs ang Gucci. Me mga kilala ako na kahit na magkautang-utang, makabili lang ng Gucci.

Yes, I am also not advocating buying fakes. But let’s get real and not fake. :lol: People buy things because of the names attached to it, not the so-called quality. While it is true that many authentic or name brand items are quality-made, so are many fake items so camouflage lang yung sabihing buy it for quality.
Do you sense any bitterness in this post? What you said may be true; that some people buy it because of the brand name and not because of quality but who cares IF they can afford it. It's their money they're spending so what's the big deal?

[cashwriters]

Do you sense any bitterness in this post? What you said may be true; that some people buy it because of the brand name and not because of quality but who cares IF they can afford it. It's their money they're spending so what's the big deal?

People like that are what some Americans call "PLAYER HATERS".

I take your commentary one step further, if people CANNOT afford something and they still buy it... WHO CARES? It's an individual choice. Let them suffer or enjoy the consequences of their actions. By playing "moral supercop" to these people, busybodies are just exposing their own mental/attitudinal issues. Live and let live.

If someone wants to blow all their income on liabilities or consumption, let them.

[Nerfy]

That is not true at all. Would you pay as much money for something that looks like a lacoste polo shirt without that crocodile?

Btw, my intentions in this thread is not to encourage people to buy fakes, but to point out that one shouldn't buy designer clothes if they can't easily afford it.

i liked the style of the shirt and if i thought it was worth my money, of course i would, no matter what the label is. but i wouldnt buy a shirt with a fake crocodile on it either. if lacoste is too expensive, i would look for a cheaper polo shirt similar style but with its own identity.

[ayane]

Live and let live.

If someone wants to blow all their income on liabilities or consumption, let them.

hear! hear!

it's what i don't understand about people. if the person is using your money to buy those things, complain all you want, but if it is his money he is "throwing" away, you have no right to tell him how to spend it.

think of it this way:

if a person wants to use his 500 bucks as toilet paper, who are you to stop him?

[loveinparis]

i like buying authentic stuff because of quality & style! well, it's just me!!!

[laarni]

Do you sense any bitterness in this post? What you said may be true; that some people buy it because of the brand name and not because of quality but who cares IF they can afford it. It's their money they're spending so what's the big deal?

I am not saying it is not okay to buy authentic or branded merchandise. Sure, it's their money, they can splurge it all they want. There is something about my post that you are not getting. There are many people who would buy these goods just to show off. What is wrong with showing off? Well, nothing, except this mentality that only people who buy authentic goods have the right to show off and they would look down on people who can afford only fake goods. They think they are better than people who cannot afford expensive goods. What is wrong with that mentality? I am very, very sorry but if I have to explain, then there really is something wrong. But then again, it is your mentality so maybe there is no big deal.

[tsokolat]

if i can afford it, why not.

:sunnysmile:

[PinkMammal]

The people who produce and sells these rip-offs are not just violating intellectual property rights, they are violating a host of other laws as well- underpaid workers, child-labor, undeclared/undervalued declarations, unregulated killing of animals for their skins, and God only knows what else. How else would they be able to sell so cheaply if they were following the law?

[leporidae]

I can wear fake stuff and people think it's authentic. And don't give me a lecture on morals, I'm sure every one of you have pirated music.

What is more immoral is spending half your month's income on some signature clothes, thus decreasing the amount of money for your family to spend. Take note that I'm not attacking those who *really* can afford it.

[clawed_out]

That is your prerogative.

The issue has been solved in respect with their priorities, fantasies & whatnot.

To each his own.

I don't buy items to pretend I can afford it. That's beyond pathetic. :glee:

[TravelBug]

...There are many people who would buy these goods just to show off. What is wrong with showing off? Well, nothing, except this mentality that only people who buy authentic goods have the right to show off and they would look down on people who can afford only fake goods. They think they are better than people who cannot afford expensive goods.
To be honest with you, I never thought people would go to this extent. I must agree with clawed_out. It is pathetic.

[GoshDarnIt]

I also don't see why someone would manufacture fake items. If the manufacturers of these items claim that the quality of their counterfeit goods is even better than the real thing, then why don't they just create their own line instead of riding on the popularity of the well-established brands? This is stealing.

Yeah, I've been thinking about exactly the same thing!

[GoshDarnIt]

I can wear fake stuff and people think it's authentic. And don't give me a lecture on morals, I'm sure every one of you have pirated music.

What is more immoral is spending half your month's income on some signature clothes, thus decreasing the amount of money for your family to spend. Take note that I'm not attacking those who *really* can afford it.

No, I don't own pirated music. I'm a law-abiding citizen. Hehe. :)

[sophiegray]

it's true that people can buy anything they want, it's their freedom. ako naman, i buy branded items because i like the design and not because it has a logo to impress people, because i don't need to impress people. will smith once said, "people try to impress people that they don't even like." it's so true.

in my opinion, some of the really expensive branded stuffs don't really have an exceptional quality.

[charmedPrue]

^^ true. I once bought a top from a boutique in makati. i really liked the design so even if it's almost 1k, I bought it. But after a few uses and washes, the thread on the details (sequins) broke! Nasayangan talaga ako. I can buy clothes with better quality in a tiangge or SM

[pampi1010]

im planning to buy an authentic Nike World Cup Shirt of Brazil.. It costs 2995.. expensive for a shirt. Astig yun pag sinuot mo! hehe

[pampi1010]

in my opinion, some of the really expensive branded stuffs don't really have an exceptional quality.

mmmm.. bench?*peace*

[mcgirl04]

My thing is, people are different. Some spend their hard-earned money on ridiculously expensive things and some spend it on necessary things. We all have our own preference. I will have a problem if somebody has a financial obligation with me (like a roommate or husband) and he can't pay his share because he blew his entire paycheck on a Bose sound system. You can buy whatever you want, spend your money on Louis Vuitton or Manolo Blahnik but don't come to me and tell me you can't make the rent this month because you couldn't resist the sale.

[drquack]

With other things, there really is a difference between the real and the fake.

I don't mind people paying for expensive cars, food, houses or holidays, because there really is that added value from paying more (tangible).

But the extra amount of money spent on designer clothes goes to purchasing the brand name (intangible).

That "philippines" remark is due to the fact of the abundance of counterfeit goods on the market. Also due to the low wages in this country which makes it all the more ridiculous to splurge on designer items. (I know, I know, this applies to many other asian countries. But this is besides the fact)

With that line of thinking, I guess you don't own a single original piece of software because there's no difference in the real one and the fake one, they're in fact digital copies. But one is more expensive and would be ridiculous for you to buy. :)

[leporidae]

With that line of thinking, I guess you don't own a single original piece of software because there's no difference in the real one and the fake one, they're in fact digital copies. But one is more expensive and would be ridiculous for you to buy. :)


Sadly, with a budget of a student, I'd have to say that's almost true. Being in the phils, original software is relatively very expensive for us, which brings me back to my original premise.

If I had a lot of money, I wouldn't mind paying for original software/ designer clothes.

[drquack]

Sadly, with a budget of a student, I'd have to say that's almost true. Being in the phils, original software is relatively very expensive for us, which brings me back to my original premise.

If I had a lot of money, I wouldn't mind paying for original software/ designer clothes.

Aha. There you go. Then you do see the rationale in purchasing authentic designer items. It's just a matter of affordability :)

[ExtremeRide69]

i buy authentic boardshorts because imitation sucks! dont cheat yourself...

[beauté]

the quality of the fake brands suck big time... just go to the mall when there is a sale .. love the shorts at ripcurl.. bought 2 half the price



:flower: Charity (http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=228770) :flower:

[sp!t_k!cker]

i buy original stuff as a respect to fellow businessmen. i dont want my products to be pirated. just remember the golden rule

[escadasport]

We bought fake Lacoste polo shirt before around P500 each, and the quality isn't the same like the real one. the shirt is much shorter, and parang magaspang yun tela, so if pinagpapawisan ka sa init, parang itchy yun shirt. when I wear the real lacoste, mainit or malamig, comfy parin kasi soft yun tela. Why didn't I buy other brand of polo shirt? Because I haven't seen any shirt that's almost as good as the one from Lacoste (if you've seen such a shirt, pls tell me). either manipis yun tela kaya para kita na yun outline ng bra mo, or there's too much design on the polo, or I totally hate the design of that one.
My mom also bought authentic branded bags in hongkong before, until now, the bag is still alive, strong, and useable.

[mcgirl04]

We bought fake Lacoste polo shirt before around P500 each, and the quality isn't the same like the real one. the shirt is much shorter, and parang magaspang yun tela, so if pinagpapawisan ka sa init, parang itchy yun shirt. when I wear the real lacoste, mainit or malamig, comfy parin kasi soft yun tela. Why didn't I buy other brand of polo shirt? Because I haven't seen any shirt that's almost as good as the one from Lacoste (if you've seen such a shirt, pls tell me). either manipis yun tela kaya para kita na yun outline ng bra mo, or there's too much design on the polo, or I totally hate the design of that one.
My mom also bought authentic branded bags in hongkong before, until now, the bag is still alive, strong, and useable.
This is understandable. If you're buying the shirt because of good quality, that's fine. But if you're buying it so people think you're all that and a bag of chips, it's time to rethink things.

[bistagrl]

personally, i think what irks me are people who are "feeling" when they are sporting all these branded stuff- may it be fake or authentic. just pretentious.

if a person really can afford only the "fake" stuff 'coz simply that's all he can afford and really not to show off then i don't have a problem with that.

[mcgirl04]

personally, i think what irks me are people who are "feeling" when they are sporting all these branded stuff- may it be fake or authentic. just pretentious.

if a person really can afford only the "fake" stuff 'coz simply that's all he can afford and really not to show off then i don't have a problem with that.

I think it's immature to flaunt that you have money or make people believe that you do by blowing your savings on a Louis Vuitton purse.

[ExtremeRide69]

buy authentic for comfy and quality not for being showy!

[sd amboy]

Always buy for quality and value. This means buy authentic but NEVER pay full price. Thats just stupid...It doesnt matter wether you can afford to pay full price.....It just doesnt make financial sense.

The only reason anyone would buy fake or copies of branded goods is for the name. Posers are losers.

[clawed_out]

^ amen.

Besides, they are not fooling anyone but themselves.

Poor posers. Poor losers.

[wazdog]

Always buy for quality and value. This means buy authentic but NEVER pay full price. Thats just stupid...It doesnt matter wether you can afford to pay full price.....It just doesnt make financial sense.

The only reason anyone would buy fake or copies of branded goods is for the name. Posers are losers.

What does make financial sense is buying fake. Admit it fashionistas, you don't care that the shirt you're wearing has a mark-up of 1000%. But we're not all fashionistas.

Also, I buy fakes regardless of the logo. It just so happens that the nicer fitting clothes at greenhills do have branded logos.

[wazdog]

Besides, they are not fooling anyone but themselves.


Thats quite ironic considering that you're one of those people who have been fooled by advertising into thinking buying authentic signature clothes will make you more appealing.

[sd amboy]

What does make financial sense is buying fake. Admit it fashionistas, you don't care that the shirt you're wearing has a mark-up of 1000%. But we're not all fashionistas.

Also, I buy fakes regardless of the logo. It just so happens that the nicer fitting clothes at greenhills do have branded logos.

Don't you read? Quality + Value is the motto. NOBODY should ever pay full price. As for fake merchandise, it has lesser quality. That cannot be disputed. Face it, if you could afford the real thing (even on sale) why would you buy fake? Becuase you just care about the brand/logo. Why don't you just buy less expensive genuine merchandise instead?

[wazdog]

^ Cause fake stuff is even cheaper than genuine merchandise. And with the "Quality + Value" motto, the value of authentic goods is so low, that by that test, no one should be buying authentic.

I have as much fake lacoste polos as I do originals, and I have to say the difference in quality is marginal. Casual observers would definitely think they're all authentic. Even if the quality was a bit better, it's not worth paying 10 times more.

[sd amboy]

^ Cause fake stuff is even cheaper than genuine merchandise. And with the "Quality + Value" motto, the value of authentic goods is so low, that by that test, no one should be buying authentic.

I have as much fake lacoste polos as I do originals, and I have to say the difference in quality is marginal. Casual observers would definitely think they're all authentic. Even if the quality was a bit better, it's not worth paying 10 times more.

Based on your logic, don't even buy brand names period. Just buy generics. If you truly believe the quality difference is marginal, then just buy as cheap as possible. That would make financial sense based on your assumptions.

I see you take the observers opinion into consideration when making purchases....

[clawed_out]

Thats quite ironic considering that you're one of those people who have been fooled by advertising into thinking buying authentic signature clothes will make you more appealing.

Uhmm. wrong. There's no irony in it.

I do have an appeal (if running around with your birthday suit is not a social taboo then I'd be glad to conform to that). & I don't need Versace/ D&G/ etc. to make me look better.

It so happens that I like some brands and have remained loyal to it due to its classic looks.

I don't care about the logo which most of the kids subconsciously do. Most of my clothes doesn't have logos on them. That is juvenile.

[wazdog]

I see you take the observers opinion into consideration when making purchases....

Don't be so naive and hypocritical.

[clawed_out]

^ what happened to your old nick?

[wazdog]

Uhmm. wrong. There's no irony in it.

I do have an appeal (if running around with your birthday suit is not a social taboo then I'd be glad to conform to that). & I don't need Versace/ D&G/ etc. to make me look better.

It so happens that I like some brands and have remained loyal to it due to its classic looks.

I don't care about the logo which most of the kids subconsciously do. Most of my clothes doesn't have logos on them. That is juvenile.

I actually don't disagree with you on this one.

I do want to say though that I really don't know much people who would buy fakes and really try to pass it off as real. **** those people.

But there still are people who buy gh clothes regardless of the "branding" because its actually cheaper (and better imo) than bench (although I wear bench as well). And I think it seems logical to do so even if only to add variety to your wardrobe.

[total_ricall]

I actually don't disagree with you on this one.

I do want to say though that I really don't know much people who would buy fakes and really try to pass it off as real. **** those people.

But there still are people who buy gh clothes regardless of the "branding" because its actually cheaper (and better imo) than bench (although I wear bench as well). And I think it seems logical to do so even if only to add variety to your wardrobe.

You can definitely score some good finds that are actually cheaper than those fake products, or bench for that matter.... But if you can't afford bench, try to look for a cheaper brand that carries their own identity... It should be easy. Better yet, shop when the SALE sign is up.

We all agree that counterfeiting is illegal, and buying them makes you an accessory to the crime. So just stop buying fakes, REGARDLESS of whatever your reason maybe for doing so... After all, Im pretty sure you wouldn't appreciate to see a pathetic immitation of your bench shirt being sold in the market... If you cant afford bench, dont buy bench... If you really like it, then save for it.

Be stylish, practical, and resonable all at the same time. Do yourself and the legal businesses a favor.

[homegerl]

this is my personal opinion okay, me, i buy authentic because i see my stuff as investments. there are things for me worth paying the price for and there are stuff for me that are not worth paying the price for.

for example, i choose to own SOME authentic designer bags because of the quality and as i said, its an investment. i want to be able to pass them to my children one day and hope their values by that time would have gone up. just like jewelry, you know... you buy it because its nice and its an investment. two, i think of the quality. true while there are some "branded and authentic" items that really has not that much difference of a quality, i can tell. there's a certain confidence in me that i know i get after sales service for what i bought.

but as i said, there are only some things that i think should be paid for that much money. like, i dont believe in spending half a million pesos on a bag, even if you can afford it, because I would have problems with that, preferential option for the poor and stuff.

also for example, i dont really care much for the lacoste shirts. i also do not understand why they are priced so high and i do not see anything special with them. i see them in greenhills and my husband bought some, and as some said, the quality between the original ones and fakes one are so marginal. i have more of a robin hood take on this, steal from the rich... its just a shirt!

i guess its really more of what you value and what values you have towards things. to each his own, right? problems usually occur when things are taken in excesses eh and extremes. like buying above your means, etc.

[wazdog]

^ Let me just correct you on your skewed view on what an investment is. It may be an investment if by buying the product, you will uphold your image which might improve job prospects for example. Be sensible, the bag you bought will never appreciate. Jewelry may appreciate because of the scarcity in the market. They are totally different.

[wazdog]

You can definitely score some good finds that are actually cheaper than those fake products, or bench for that matter.... But if you can't afford bench, try to look for a cheaper brand that carries their own identity... It should be easy. Better yet, shop when the SALE sign is up.

We all agree that counterfeiting is illegal, and buying them makes you an accessory to the crime. So just stop buying fakes, REGARDLESS of whatever your reason maybe for doing so... After all, Im pretty sure you wouldn't appreciate to see a pathetic immitation of your bench shirt being sold in the market... If you cant afford bench, dont buy bench... If you really like it, then save for it.

Be stylish, practical, and resonable all at the same time. Do yourself and the legal businesses a favor.

I really think you cannot find cheaper products than fake ones. Where in SM have you seen a p150 "branded" polo shirt? Don't get me wrong, I can afford to buy stuff like A/X (albeit not regularly), but I just don't see the point.

The rich get away with wearing counterfeit. The poor look silly wearing authentic.

And you shouldn't have even started on that morality issue.

[homegerl]

^^as i said, this is my opinion okay, so whether skewed or not, it is mine to suffer the consequence. and for your information, SOME bags do appreciate. just go look at any vintage store in NYC.

[TravelBug]

^^^Rich or poor, wearing counterfeit is silly.

[total_ricall]

I really think you cannot find cheaper products than fake ones. Where in SM have you seen a p150 "branded" polo shirt? Don't get me wrong, I can afford to buy stuff like A/X (albeit not regularly), but I just don't see the point.

The rich get away with wearing counterfeit. The poor look silly wearing authentic.

And you shouldn't have even started on that morality issue.

The points of buying authentic products are laid down on the previous posts. go ahead and read... And btw, have you forgetten your own post, leporidae?.... " If I had a lot of money, I wouldn't mind paying for original software/ designer clothes."

About the rich people getting away with fakes... not unless they travel abroad especially europe/US and some airport officials spotted them carrying a fake bag; not unless someone is really knowledgeable in spotting the difference between the fake and the original ones.

I didn't start that moratilty issue, leporidae. go ahead and read the previous posts...

[lilsweetcotton]

quality matters....

[wazdog]

The points of buying authentic products are laid down on the previous posts. go ahead and read... And btw, have you forgetten your own post, leporidae?.... " If I had a lot of money, I wouldn't mind paying for original software/ designer clothes."

About the rich people getting away with fakes... not unless they travel abroad especially europe/US and some airport officials spotted them carrying a fake bag; not unless someone is really knowledgeable in spotting the difference between the fake and the original ones.

I didn't start that moratilty issue, leporidae. go ahead and read the previous posts...

My fault for not reading the previous posts. But why bring it up when it doesn't have much weight in an internet forum discussion anyway?

If I had heaps of money, I would buy authentic clothes cause I wouldn't care about value for money. And I have to admit, I can be sucker for excellent marketing.

What I'd like to hear from all the authentic buying people, is that you buy it because it is original. Not because of moral issues, better quality, chance of appreciation, etc. Not saying it isn't true, but just admit that you just like owning some things special.

[ericrio]

whoever started this thread must have this idea in mind: fake stuffs are as good as authentic stuffs... so why buy authentic stuffs when you can have fake stuffs that cost a fraction of the original?

the problem with this thinking is that these people dont know whats good and whats not...they keep on saying that fake stuffs are as good as the original which is totally wrong!!!! if your the type who buys orig stuffs you can tell the difference...

how can these people appreciate authentic items when they havent been exposed to the real stuffs? how can these people say na good quality ang fake when hindi nga sila nagmamay-ari ng orig items, well yeah maybe they have 1 or 2 pieces na orig but the rest are fakes..

[inutel]

Somebody might recognize it's fake and s/he might think FAKE lahat ng things ko :)

so.... BUY AUTHENTIC!!! :)

[ericrio]

but mind you pipol, i know some fashionistas who mix and match orig with fake ones... these pipol can get away with this because the pipol around them are sooooo used to seeing them wearing authentic items...that the next time they wear something fake nobody would notice it...

[glenchuy]

in my opinion, some of the really expensive branded stuffs don't really have an exceptional quality.

there is a hint of fact in your statement. while i am a self-admitted shopaholic and profess my eternal undying love for branded stuff, i only buy GOOD branded stuff.

there are some branded stuff that are just riding the bandwagon. in the case of premium jeans, (which cost around $200 for a pair here in manila), it's really a lot of money for average income earners.

they're called premium because of the style, fit, and very importantly, the brand. however, there are a lot of jeans label manufacturers why ride the premium denim bandwagon and jack up their prices, slap the "premium" in the label, and sell them to people at ridiculous prices.

quality DOES come with it's own price. however, how much money you are willing to pay for the quality you can afford will vary from person to person.

i pride myself in my branded designer outfit because spending for them is how i can reward myself and how i can guage how good i'm doing - money wise. i never judge people by the brand they wear- what's dumb however, is to go broke trying to purchase your $250 true religion jeans while you spend half the month starving because you've spent all your lunch money.

[glenchuy]

I have as much fake lacoste polos as I do originals, and I have to say the difference in quality is marginal. Casual observers would definitely think they're all authentic. Even if the quality was a bit better, it's not worth paying 10 times more.

to each his own. i'll gladly pay 10x better for something that fits better, feels better. this can be extremely noticable in shoes.

because i'm in project management, my job entails me to be either standing or walking around more than- or at least 80% of the time.

try buying fake lacoste shoes and real lacoste shoes. after a week, of wearing fake lacoste shoes i've never looked back. i dumped the damn shoe and swore never again to buy fake shoes.

it all boils down to value for money. however, just because somebody values something better than you gauge it does not make them retarded or dumb- it just makes them different.

[clawed_out]

but mind you pipol, i know some fashionistas who mix and match orig with fake ones... these pipol can get away with this because the pipol around them are sooooo used to seeing them wearing authentic items...that the next time they wear something fake nobody would notice it...

Then they are wearing it for the crowd (for show which is so KSP) not for themselves.

In the end, they are making a fool out of themselves.

& it is often said as stuff not stuffs.

[clawed_out]

^^ true. I once bought a top from a boutique in makati. i really liked the design so even if it's almost 1k, I bought it. But after a few uses and washes, the thread on the details (sequins) broke! Nasayangan talaga ako. I can buy clothes with better quality in a tiangge or SM

1,000Php is not considered expensive.

Plus, you must know how to read instructions when washing your clothes.

[DJQuimby]

i buy original stuff as a respect to fellow businessmen. i dont want my products to be pirated. just remember the golden rule

He who has the gold...makes the rule!

*peace*

[de_veelish]

I buy authentic cause i like it, it just so happens that they are designers. Although lately, i've been buying Gap and H&M as the fit and quality are very good. Also A&F and Hollister when they're deeply discounted.

[de_veelish]

There are definitely good design copy out there and is cheap'er, but aren't fakes. You can find designer looking bags in Banana Republic for much cheaper cost. In turn, you can find similar quality coats at H&M but at half the cost of Banana Republic's.

[kookoorookookoo]

Nasa itsura naman ng tao yan eh. Pag mukha talagang mahirap, kahit na lahat ng suot nya at gamit nya original at mahal, mukha pa ring fake!

Meron naman mukhang mayaman, pero kahit fake ang suot, nagmumukhang original.

[clawed_out]

^ you're basing it on who's wearing it. Granted your issue, there is double standards against the not so good looking ones.

The real debate is why buy authentics or fakes?

[ericrio]

there is a hint of fact in your statement. while i am a self-admitted shopaholic and profess my eternal undying love for branded stuff, i only buy GOOD branded stuff.

there are some branded stuff that are just riding the bandwagon. in the case of premium jeans, (which cost around $200 for a pair here in manila), it's really a lot of money for average income earners.

they're called premium because of the style, fit, and very importantly, the brand. however, there are a lot of jeans label manufacturers why ride the premium denim bandwagon and jack up their prices, slap the "premium" in the label, and sell them to people at ridiculous prices.

quality DOES come with it's own price. however, how much money you are willing to pay for the quality you can afford will vary from person to person.

i pride myself in my branded designer outfit because spending for them is how i can reward myself and how i can guage how good i'm doing - money wise. i never judge people by the brand they wear- what's dumb however, is to go broke trying to purchase your $250 true religion jeans while you spend half the month starving because you've spent all your lunch money.

are you referring to DIESEL jeans when you said that there are jeans that are overpriced

[ericrio]

Then they are wearing it for the crowd (for show which is so KSP) not for themselves.

In the end, they are making a fool out of themselves.

& it is often said as stuff not stuffs.

are you telling me that its wrong to say stuffs coz the word that you used is "often"...if i'm wrong then you could have said "wrong grammar please"!!!:) :) :)

[ericrio]

Then they are wearing it for the crowd (for show which is so KSP) not for themselves.

In the end, they are making a fool out of themselves.



not necessarily...i dont knw what goes on in their minds when they mix and match fakes with orig...

yeah it could be that they are doing it to show off but it is also possible that they are doing it just because they are comfortable with it.

[parkingboy]

People buy authentic because they can afford to buy authentic.
People buy fake because they can't afford to buy authentic.

[sd amboy]

People buy authentic because they can afford to buy authentic.
People buy fake because they can't afford to buy authentic.

That should about sum it up.

[clawed_out]

^ that sir, is the bottom line.

not necessarily...i dont knw what goes on in their minds when they mix and match fakes with orig...

yeah it could be that they are doing it to show off but it is also possible that they are doing it just because they are comfortable with it.

as the cliche goes, to each his own.

we all have different values in life. i don't believe in buying a fake prada jacket just to make myself feel good. knowing its a fake is already a downer for me.

& then there are intellectual property laws.

[ExtremeRide69]

for people who buy fake branded stuff... i think it will be better if you just buy non-popular brands but still authentic.

if your buying cheap fake stuff just to show off, you're cheating yourself...

[sd amboy]

Good points everyone.

Like I said, I believe in quality and value for myself. Will I buy any of my original stuff at full price? No. Why? Because I believe many items are overpriced. Besides, there are deals to be had....you just need to look. Will I buy it on sale? Absolutely. Now you have the same high quality original item bought at good value. Will I buy copies or fakes of it? Absolutely not. Why? Because there is no point to doing that.

[SUX2BÜ]

What about fake people buying authentic stuff?

Daming ganyan.

:laugh:

[blue_tooth]

i buy authentic items because i'm after the after sale service.
Well, some items are of high prices because those businesses have a different target market. Example: luxury items= target market is those from upper class. sometimes, some people from lower classes are able to buy luxurious items from their hard work or savings.

[sd amboy]

What about fake people buying authentic stuff?

Daming ganyan.

:laugh:

:lol: :lol:

[blue_tooth]

kaya lang minsan pinagpipilitan kahit hindi afford. :lol:

[sd amboy]

kaya lang minsan pinagpipilitan kahit hindi afford. :lol:

Yun ba yung mga may suot na designer t shirt sabay naka tsinelas?

[TravelBug]

Yun ba yung mga may suot na designer t shirt sabay naka tsinelas?
Umm, Havaianas naman tsinelas nila eh. Pwede na daw yun. :naughty:

[homegerl]

also, as much as someone would like to buy authentic stuff but not at full price, they can't. like louis vuitton just never goes on sale. i think chanel also doesnt go on sale. :)

ang hirap naman kasi, pag mag authentic items ka na mahal, sa sweldo ng average pinoy, parang mali. unlike naman sa other countries, kaya okay lang mag authentic kasi compensated ng sweldo nila. like if you buy an LV bag sa pinas, on an average sweldo, say 15-25K, ilang months mo pagiipunan. unlike in other countries, you can afford that in a month, may matitira pa.

kaya nga may mga local products at hindi "kailangan" bumili ng signatured stuff or magfake coz yun talaga yung bagay sa sweldo ng ave pinoy.

[clawed_out]

What about fake people buying authentic stuff?

Daming ganyan.

:laugh:

Oh, here! here! :glee:

Present!

[ExtremeRide69]

bumibili ako ng FAKE na PS2 games, sino dito bumibili ng AUTHENTIC?;)

basta pag clothing lang, no offense pero panget tignan pag jafakes...

[sd amboy]

also, as much as someone would like to buy authentic stuff but not at full price, they can't. like louis vuitton just never goes on sale. i think chanel also doesnt go on sale. :)

ang hirap naman kasi, pag mag authentic items ka na mahal, sa sweldo ng average pinoy, parang mali. unlike naman sa other countries, kaya okay lang mag authentic kasi compensated ng sweldo nila. like if you buy an LV bag sa pinas, on an average sweldo, say 15-25K, ilang months mo pagiipunan. unlike in other countries, you can afford that in a month, may matitira pa.

kaya nga may mga local products at hindi "kailangan" bumili ng signatured stuff or magfake coz yun talaga yung bagay sa sweldo ng ave pinoy.

Ano ang tingin mo sa mga bumibili ng mamahalin na gamit ngunit hindi naman pera nila ang ginagastos? Halimbawa mga anak ng mayaman? Para sa akin, bilin mo ang kaya mo.......ang kaya ng sahod mo. Iba talaga kapag sarili mong pera ang ginagastos at masasabi mo na kaya mo talaga tumayo sa sarili mong paa. :)

[PearlM]

^ibig mong sabihin walang karapatang bumili ng designer item ang isang maybahay na katulad ko? Hu hu hu

[sd amboy]

^ibig mong sabihin walang karapatang bumili ng designer item ang isang maybahay na katulad ko? Hu hu hu

Hindi naman. Sabi ko lang sa tingin ko mas satisfying bumili ng mamahalin na gamit kapag financially independent ang isang tao. :)

[homegerl]

yeah i guess iba satisfaction if own money gamit mo. im still waiting for that time though, housewife din ako as of now eh. :)

anyway, kanyang kanyang trip din yan eh. coz for me, i just dont like most fake stuff (with a few exceptions nga), but my dad he doesn't like buying authentic stuff even though he can afford them, unlike me. feeling niya good deal lagi pag nakakamura siya. feeling niya naiisahan siya pag mahal niya nabili eh meron naman mas murang version daw he'd rather spend on other stuff like sound systems, etc.

i see it talaga on how you think what your peso deserves and what it buys you.

[sd amboy]

This excerpt pertains more to high end and luxury watches but is also applicable to other items:

Why do people buy fakes and what does it say about them?
Through years of studing fakes and talking with people about them, we have never heard any good justification for buying or wearing them... only excuses why some people believe they deserve the perception of owning 'luxury' products without having to go to the effort and expense to buy the real things.

Curiously, people who buy fakes seem to have a contradicting thought process. They act like it is 'only a name' when they choose a counterfeit product with a premium brand name on it. Counterfeit buyers seem to be ignorant of or ignore the real merits that make the genuine item far more valuable than the fakes--they just consider one watch to be about the same as any other.

But they obviously consider the luxury name brand important enough that they are willing to accept items of highly dubious quality and origin just to get that brand name on them. So we have yet to find how to interpret people's willingness to pay for counterfeit versions of 'the name'--especially when they have contempt for or ignorance of why the name is valuable--as anything other than wanting to cheaply impress themself and others.

Here's what buying and wearing fake/counterfeit watches really says about the wearer:

Poor Grasp of Value - Replicas are made to sell by looking like something far more valuable than they are. They are seldom made for quality, carry no warranty, are made from cheap parts and are usually not worth repairing. They are basically overpriced disposable products, so are a poor value for your money.
Lack of Integrity - Those that choose cheap replicas to try to impress others that they have a real luxury watch are using falsehoods to represent themselves. So that makes people wonder what else about how you represent yourself is false.
Weak Ethics - Choosing replica watches shows the world that you are willing to support unethical and illegal businesses--not giving a care about the ethics and legalities involved if they get in the way of getting something that you want cheaply.
Gullible - Especially where someone unknowingly buys a fake, they show themselves to be easily deceived and someone that throws caution to the winds trying to get a super deal on an expensive item.
Isolated - Certainly there are no clubs for owners of fakes. No comraderie among fellow owners. No sharing of tips, tricks and performance issues. No assistance with operation, warranty or repair issues. Fake buyers are on their own with nobody to care, nobody to help and nobody to compliment or encourage them--except for the occasional person you might encounter that doesn't know enough about watches to realize you are trying to 'impress' them with a cheap counterfeit.
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[clawed_out]

Counterfeit buyers seem to be ignorant


OH my. :glee:

[sd amboy]

Counterfeit buyers seem to be ignorant


OH my. :glee:

How about having "lack of integrity"? :D

[faaip_de_oiad]

not necessarily...i dont knw what goes on in their minds when they mix and match fakes with orig...

yeah it could be that they are doing it to show off but it is also possible that they are doing it just because they are comfortable with it.

To parrot clawed_out, it's about people wanting to pretend they can afford things that they actually can't.;)

[haberdasher]

to each his own...
..if you can afford to buy branded ones, then why settle for imitations?

[sd amboy]

To parrot clawed_out, it's about people wanting to pretend they can afford things that they actually can't.;)

Its always better to buy originals of items you can afford than to buy fakes of items you cant afford. Giving false impressions and lying to yourself makes you a questionable individual.

My co-workers and I were talking about high end swiss watches the other day. We were all showing each other what we were wearing. One guy had a fake rolex that he tried to pass off as real. Needless to say he was embarrassed when he got called out on it. I asked him:

"How much did you pay and where did you get it?"

"Mexico....$300."

"So why not spend that $300 on an original Tissot, Hamilton, or ESQ instead? They are not high end swiss brands but they are good quality swiss watches."

"Its not a Rolex."

"Well neither is that thing you bought." :rolleyes:

[caryatid_kitten]

If I can afford to buy an authentic Louis Vuitton, I definitely would.
If I can afford to buy an authentic Gucci, I most certainly would.

But to buy a knock off and pretend it's the real deal, forget it.

I'd rather stick to Secosana or some SM brand.

[SUX2BÜ]

I bought a Diesel retro shoulder bag for only 150 pesos at 168 in Divisoria last December. The bag looks nice and can actually pass for an authentic Diesel bag. Last week my officemate saw it and started playing with the metal Diesel tag buttoned up onto the front pocket of the bag. While playing with it, my officemate commented how nice it was and asked me where I got it from, and added how rich I was that I could afford such an expensive bag. Since I was really busy doing stuff and couldn't directly have a conversation with him, I was just mumbling "yeah", "hmm, not really", "ok", etc. to whatever comments he had about the bag. Suddenly, only after 3 minutes or so, he sounded like yelping "oh no!" and "aaaahhh" or something. So I turned to him and saw him stunned while flapping the detached metal Diesel tag. I squawked, "Jesus, man, that's effing Diesel and you trashed it!!!" Of course, I was only joking and told him about the fake bag. I got him for about 5 minutes there.

:lol:

[clawed_out]

To parrot clawed_out, it's about people wanting to pretend they can afford things that they actually can't.;)

With all due respect, that has been implied way back in the first page.

Must we revive it in every post we make just to make sure every poster is on the same frequency?

That will be too much spoon feeding imo.

[wazdog]

Poor Grasp of Value - Replicas are made to sell by looking like something far more valuable than they are. They are seldom made for quality, carry no warranty, are made from cheap parts and are usually not worth repairing. They are basically overpriced disposable products, so are a poor value for your money.


You kidding me?

[wazdog]

I'd rather stick to Secosana or some SM brand.

Like I said, fake stuff is cheaper than cheap brands.

[wazdog]

Let me ask a question:
If there were two identical items of clothing except one has the Gucci brand and the other is a knock-off, which would you buy? (Assume the original is 20 times the price)

I'll see what the response is then I'll make my point.

[clawed_out]

If I have the money to splurge, then I'll get Gucci.

If not, I'd rather not get anything.

[wazdog]

-- I'll wait for responses first --

[sd amboy]

You kidding me?

Nope.

Let me ask a question:
If there were two identical items of clothing except one has the Gucci brand and the other is a knock-off, which would you buy? (Assume the original is 20 times the price)

I'll see what the response is then I'll make my point.

How can it be identical if one is a knock off? :rolleyes: If I can afford the Gucci I'd buy it. If not, then I'd buy a less expensive original brand. Buying the knock off is out off the question.

[faaip_de_oiad]

With all due respect, that has been implied way back in the first page.

Must we revive it in every post we make just to make sure every poster is on the same frequency?

That will be too much spoon feeding imo.

In PEX, yes. :lol: some people love to be spoon fed.

[wazdog]

How can it be identical if one is a knock off? :rolleyes: .

Are you a retard? I said except.

Anyway my point is, based on the responses, that people are willing to pay a premium just to get it original even without anything else different.

So why don't we all just be honest and admit you like owning original things because it make you feel special that you own something few people have.

That is all I'm asking from the die-hard authentic buying people.

[fnh]

i think what they are trying to say is that the brand is not the only difference between an original and a knock-off. they differ in quality as well. hence, they definitely are not identical.

[bigfoot14]

Like I said, fake stuff is cheaper than cheap brands.

Huh?! She said she'd rather stick to Secosana or some other SM brand. Why do you insist that she buy a knock off than a more affordable brand? So what if it's cheaper? It's still a knock off!


Are you a retard? I said except.

Anyway my point is, based on the responses, that people are willing to pay a premium just to get it original even without anything else different.

So why don't we all just be honest and admit you like owning original things because it make you feel special that you own something few people have.

That is all I'm asking from the die-hard authentic buying people.

Oh believe me, he understood you perfectly so don't be calling him names!

It seems that you're the one who is hard of understanding. If they can afford it, most people would rather buy an original period. It doesn't matter what brand it is so long as it is an original. Also, authentic items are backed by the name in terms of quality, you won't get that with knock offs. So it would never be identical no matter how you look at it.

If "you like owning original things because it makes you feel special for having something few people have," don't assume that other people feel the same way. We really don't care that you think the way you do, just don't go forcing your beliefs on us! We don't have anything to admit like you do.

[faaip_de_oiad]

Are you a retard? I said except.

Anyway my point is, based on the responses, that people are willing to pay a premium just to get it original even without anything else different.

So why don't we all just be honest and admit you like owning original things because it make you feel special that you own something few people have.

That is all I'm asking from the die-hard authentic buying people.

what the hell is this?

A PEX-edition of the internet forum game - FIND THE CONTRADICTION? :bop:

[sd amboy]

i think what they are trying to say is that the brand is not the only difference between an original and a knock-off. they differ in quality as well. hence, they definitely are not identical.

Exactly. :)

Huh?! She said she'd rather stick to Secosana or some other SM brand. Why do you insist that she buy a knock off than a more affordable brand? So what if it's cheaper? It's still a knock off!

Oh believe me, he understood you perfectly so don't be calling him names!

It seems that you're the one who is hard of understanding. If they can afford it, most people would rather buy an original period. It doesn't matter what brand it is so long as it is an original. Also, authentic items are backed by the name in terms of quality, you won't get that with knock offs. So it would never be identical no matter how you look at it.
If "you like owning original things because it makes you feel special for having something few people have," don't assume that other people feel the same way. We really don't care that you think the way you do, just don't go forcing your beliefs on us! We don't have anything to admit like you do.

WAZDOG, I bolded a passage from BIGFOOT's excellent reply so you can re-read it and try to understand the point a lot of us here are trying to make. :D

[homegerl]

cannot ever be the identical... the price of the fake could not sustain the cost of the material to be used, like silk, cashmere, etc... add to that the labor and the whatever else in between. unlike fake stuffs, the labor, materials etc are cheap, hence the difference in quality.

what makes sense is buying a different brand with a cheaper price with almost the same quality. can't afford a gucci cashmere sweater? then why buy fake gucci, when you can buy a much cheaper cashmere zara sweater.

[sd amboy]

cannot ever be the identical... the price of the fake could not sustain the cost of the material to be used, like silk, cashmere, etc... add to that the labor and the whatever else in between. unlike fake stuffs, the labor, materials etc are cheap, hence the difference in quality.

what makes sense is buying a different brand with a cheaper price with almost the same quality. can't afford a gucci cashmere sweater? then why buy fake gucci, when you can buy a much cheaper cashmere zara sweater.

That's what we've been trying to tell Mr. WAZDOG. :D

[faaip_de_oiad]

That gives me an idea... Let's all buy fake Marks and Spencer apparel! :lol: No one will ever figure it out. Hopefully, buying fakes will give us the same feeling we get when we buy authentic clothes (of course, its the only reason why we choose to buy authentic).

:lol:

[necr0]

That gives me an idea... Let's all buy fake Marks and Spencer apparel! :lol: No one will ever figure it out. Hopefully, buying fakes will give us the same feeling we get when we buy authentic clothes (of course, its the only reason why we choose to buy authentic).

:lol:

make sure they say marks & spencer all over... :D

[wazdog]

Do people not understand what hypothetical means? hmn..

[sd amboy]

Do people not understand what hypothetical means? hmn..

Do you buy fake or original?

[faaip_de_oiad]

If a non-existent imaginary company does come up with a total replica of an expensive brand with all the high quality materials also present in their knock off product, then.... I... would be bent to say that that non-existent imaginary company better raise their prices to make a better profit and make a name for themselves.

The hypothesis just contradicts itself.

If you can do better/ as good as what others do, why copy and take crumbs for profit? Why not do your own thing?

Jeez.

[boy_scout]

i have read ones that people who buy fakes/replicas are people who aspire to live a lifestyle they cannot afford.

so you'd be better off buying cheap stuff with original designs. and besides aren't fakes a crime to the company who actually marketed, researched and developed the product.

[sd amboy]

i have read ones that people who buy fakes/replicas are people who aspire to live a lifestyle they cannot afford.

so you'd be better off buying cheap stuff with original designs. and besides aren't fakes a crime to the company who actually marketed, researched and developed the product.

Thats what we've all been saying. :)

[mcgirl04]

People buy authentic items because they can afford it or they're willing to pay that much for it. Some of us say it's stupid to pay $2K for a Louis Vuitton when you can get a knock-off for $50. People are different. People who buy knock-offs may like the product's style but they don't feel the price is justified.

[sd amboy]

People buy authentic items because they can afford it or they're willing to pay that much for it. Some of us say it's stupid to pay $2K for a Louis Vuitton when you can get a knock-off for $50. People are different. People who buy knock-offs may like the product's style but they don't feel the price is justified.

Then buy the authentic product on sale. There are ALWAYS deals out there for authentic merchandise. You just have to look for them. :)

[clawed_out]

You have to be smart and savvy when looking for good deals.

Good deals are not fakes or class a or aaa or whatever similarities it has with the original. You ain't foolin nobody but your sorry @ss.

[sd amboy]

You have to be smart and savvy when looking for good deals.

Good deals are not fakes or class a or aaa or whatever similarities it has with the original. You ain't foolin nobody but your sorry @ss.

There you have it. :)

[preetywow]

i go for quallity.. and authentic ones have better quality than fake.. one sample.. i bought an original louis vuitton before then when nag-vacation ako sa phils, i went to greenhills and looked for a fake lv, just to try kung ano ang difference ng original and fake.. gamit ko yun orig sa greenhills while shopping.. ang mga tindero alam agad na orig ang bitbit ko, kasi kino-compare ko yun fake (like texture, yun pagkatahi, etc)... sabi nila orig daw yun sa akin.. pero bumili pa din ako ng isang fake na lv.. ma-try lang ba yun quality.. ginamit ko yun fake lv pagbyahe ko pabalik from pinas.. my god.. nasira ang zipper nasa airport pa lang ako... it's my first time to use it ha... so pinamigay ko na lang yun fake.. hehehe...

kung afford mo din lang ang orig and may brand.. dun ka na.. kasi iba talaga ang quality, gamit mo yun hanggang pagsawaan mo na lang.. pero maayos pa din..

[mcgirl04]

i go for quallity.. and authentic ones have better quality than fake..
kung afford mo din lang ang orig and may brand.. dun ka na.. kasi iba talaga ang quality, gamit mo yun hanggang pagsawaan mo na lang.. pero maayos pa din..

There's a lot of good quality products out there that do not cost an arm and a leg. I bought a $20 purse six years ago. It's still in good shape. No rips or tears. I use it everyday.

I don't think I can ever stomach buying a Louis Vuitton even if I had the money. I'd rather spend the money on travelling. But then, travelling is much more fun to me than carrying a $2K purse.

[glenchuy]

Then buy the authentic product on sale. There are ALWAYS deals out there for authentic merchandise. You just have to look for them. :)

if by good deals, you mean those on sale, some hi-end designers never go on sale. however, if you don't mind buying second hand items, that's a different story.

[clawed_out]

I don't think I can ever stomach buying a Louis Vuitton even if I had the money. I'd rather spend the money on travelling. But then, travelling is much more fun to me than carrying a $2K purse.


Don't you think it's even better to travel or "roll" in style?

Bottom line, if you can have both of what you like, why not?

[preetywow]

Don't you think it's even better to travel or "roll" in style?

Bottom line, if you can have both of what you like, why not?

agree :bashful:

if you have both and you can afford.. then go for it..

[preetywow]

There's a lot of good quality products out there that do not cost an arm and a leg. I bought a $20 purse six years ago. It's still in good shape. No rips or tears. I use it everyday.

I don't think I can ever stomach buying a Louis Vuitton even if I had the money. I'd rather spend the money on travelling. But then, travelling is much more fun to me than carrying a $2K purse.

i also travel and still can afford to buy authentic items.. so if kaya mo din lang.. then go for it.. kanya kanya lang na trip yan..

kung hindi branded but in good quality, okey lang.. ang mahirap lang is yun bumibili ng branded na fake..masyado lang prentesyosa... kung di mo din lang kaya bumili ng orig... wag ka na lang bumili.. and look for unbranded ones na good quality...

[de_veelish]

Paikot ikot lang ang topic na ito....

Pretentious is not limited to buying fakes, yung iba ay bumibili ng totoo para lang masabi na they own a certain brand. Ginagawa nila ito kahit mabutas ang bulsa at tipid sa ibang kailangan. Kung ako ang tatanungin, mas sangayon ako sa taong bibili ng fake dahil importante sa kanila ang ibang bagay, kaysa sa bumibili ng totoo pero wala naman sa ibang bagay, lalong lalo na sa pagiipon ng pera. Pretentious pero mas practical.

Sa tanong, bumili ka ng totoo kung gusto mo ang product at afford mo at hindi dahil sa pangalan. O, kung gusto mo yung particular style at konti ang budget, mag-hanap ka ng similar looking (design copy) ng lesser brand. From Luois Vuitton, Prada, Chanel, Gucci to Coach, DB. At kung matiyaga ka, makakahanap ka ng mga mamahalin on sale na ang presyo ay comparable sa regularly priced Coach, yun nga lang ang sale ng mga coach ay mas dihamak na mura kaysa highend brand.

[babygurl_archer]

if by good deals, you mean those on sale, some hi-end designers never go on sale. however, if you don't mind buying second hand items, that's a different story.

high end designers go on sale. i think only LV don't do sales.

even chanel, gucci, hermes *i think*, prada and all others go on sale. just have to be patient and have luck in finding good deals with these designers.

[glenchuy]

high end designers go on sale. i think only LV don't do sales.

even chanel, gucci, hermes *i think*, prada and all others go on sale. just have to be patient and have luck in finding good deals with these designers.

chanel bags goes on sale, but usually it's for vip guests and usually by sending out invites, so unless it was sold to you by a friend (who bought it at a higher price) or unless you're a celeb- in which case you'd be getting it for free- you'd be paying it at full price. also, the sale is at the end of the season, when they're sure that they're not putting up that particular design back the next season. ditto with gucci. LV don't have sales. ever. (unless of course you're a celeb, in which case...) :D

[de_veelish]

chanel bags goes on sale, but usually it's for vip guests and usually by sending out invites, so unless it was sold to you by a friend (who bought it at a higher price) or unless you're a celeb- in which case you'd be getting it for free- you'd be paying it at full price. also, the sale is at the end of the season, when they're sure that they're not putting up that particular design back the next season. ditto with gucci. LV don't have sales. ever. (unless of course you're a celeb, in which case...) :D

Chanel bags seldomly goes on-sale even without invites, seldom but is still discounted. Anything that Neiman Marcus carries will eventually find its way to their outlet store, they carry chanel. I agree with LV never on-sale. Gucci is much easier to find at cheaper prices.

[glenchuy]

Gucci is much easier to find at cheaper prices.

i think the next logical question to ask would be... where? i'm addicted to designer shoes and gucci is just... so damn expensive. a 40% markdown would be great as shoes never really go out of style :D

[de_veelish]

i think the next logical question to ask would be... where? i'm addicted to designer shoes and gucci is just... so damn expensive. a 40% markdown would be great as shoes never really go out of style :D

On many occasions Saks fifth's outlet store Off 5th and Neiman marcus's Last Call.

[sd amboy]

Chanel bags seldomly goes on-sale even without invites, seldom but is still discounted. Anything that Neiman Marcus carries will eventually find its way to their outlet store, they carry chanel. I agree with LV never on-sale. Gucci is much easier to find at cheaper prices.

Well, if what you like goes on sale then great, if not and you still want it and can afford it, then by all means indulge. :D

[babygurl_archer]

Well, if what you like goes on sale then great, if not and you still want it and can afford it, then by all means indulge. :D

i agree with this. :)

[de_veelish]

Well, if what you like goes on sale then great, if not and you still want it and can afford it, then by all means indulge. :D

Ay nako tigilan niyo ako ni babygurl... :D

Itong nakaraang taon ang dali kong mabugnot mag-shopping. Ayoko na!!!! Isinusumpa ko na ang bargain hunting!!!! Mahirap na kasi akong ma-satisfy pag-dating sa mga presyo, kailangan talaga murang mura.

[babygurl_archer]

^^ haha. di ka naman namin pinag tutulungan eh.

nag agree lang ako dun sa statement ni SD. :bungi:

ok naman mag bargain hunting.. pero wag naman yung sobrang kelangan eh murang mura :D pag sinipag ako mag hanap ako ng good deals online. post ko dun sa isang thread dito sa style and fashion. :)

[sd amboy]

Ay nako tigilan niyo ako ni babygurl... :D

Itong nakaraang taon ang dali kong mabugnot mag-shopping. Ayoko na!!!! Isinusumpa ko na ang bargain hunting!!!! Mahirap na kasi akong ma-satisfy pag-dating sa mga presyo, kailangan talaga murang mura.

Relaks lang pare! Dapat masayang karanasan ang mag-shopping! :)

[kian_rast]

easy...because fake stuff is a big no-no!

[clawed_out]

easy...because fake stuff is a big no-no!

That's easy for us to say.

Try telling that to the others who buy (& even sell) those items just to feel that they "belong", "can afford", "it".

From page 1- they are not fooling anyone but themselves. :glee:

[sd amboy]

That's easy for us to say.

Try telling that to the others who buy (& even sell) those items just to feel that they "belong", "can afford", "it".

From page 1- they are not fooling anyone but themselves. :glee:

Well, they can afford the knock offs. :lol:

[jisc]

my take on the topic, i buy original stuff because of their quality, i like giordano shirts because they are cool in the skin (natru-dri), i once or twice bought fake or cheap shirt and they are hot on the skin, its like im wearing a leather jacket on a sunny day :angry:

[kian_rast]

i agree with you clawed_out...

oh, and i think that buying fake stuff is like suicide.

[melloncollie]

Why buy authentic? As some have already posted, because of the quality. But as with everything, there is no absolute answer. Just because it is authentic, doesn't mean it always has good quality. And just because it is cheaper, doesn't always mean it has inferior quality. As a consumer, you should be intelligent enough to know how to practically spend your money, be it on designer clothes or not.

To each his own.

Live and let live.

If people are always bothered with how other people are spending their money, get a life. Mind your own business. Buy what you want, and be happy.

[harsh]

because the world revolves in a funny way. most of the richest people i know do not own a single authentic designer item. they think buying these things are ridiculous, when in fact they have the power to buy out these designers themselves if they want to. hehe. however, those from the middle class, owns a lot. weird, but hey, that's most commonly the case.