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garahe
Oct 10, 2000, 05:09 PM
Your opinion counts...

*cammie
Oct 10, 2000, 05:16 PM
I honestly don't know who to believe anymore. Hirap na mag-comment. But when you think about it, majority of the people in the governement are corrupt. It's actually sad. Pero bilib ako kay Bro. Andrew. When he was the DLSU president, he really did well.

garahe
Oct 10, 2000, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by *cammie
I honestly don't know who to believe anymore. Hirap na mag-comment. But when you think about it, majority of the people in the governement are corrupt. It's actually sad. Pero bilib ako kay Bro. Andrew. When he was the DLSU president, he really did well.

ako rin sa totoo lang parang wala ng magandang paniwalaan...
one thing for sure, lam ko may plano si Bro. Andrew *** nangyari ang mga bagay na yan... gaya ng plinano nya ang miliones na football field na beneficial naman ngayon sa mga players/students ng lasal.

fReAk
Oct 10, 2000, 07:11 PM
check the other posts sa issues...

cHaSeR
Oct 10, 2000, 07:16 PM
You know what...kahit hindi naging DECS Secretary si Brother Andrew, makakabili pa rin yun ng Expedition.

WICKEDQUEEN
Oct 10, 2000, 07:23 PM
I don't know how I'll be interpreted with this one but, [i]there are huge sums of money in DLSU as compared to the government y'know. Ayan. Bahala na kayo mag-isip. :smokin:

qwerty78
Oct 12, 2000, 08:13 AM
walang malisya sa ginawa ni Bro. Andrew... ang mga tao sa paligid niya ang madumi ang utak. yun nga lang, sana ginamit na lang niya sa ibang bagay.

at least di siya tulad ng ibang tao diyan na basta basta na lang mambabalato pag nananalo ng mahjong o kaya eh dahil sa malaki ang kita sa hueteng! hehehe...

thanks to crispypata for correcting me...



[Edited by qwerty78 on 10-12-2000 at 11:33 AM]

crispypata
Oct 12, 2000, 08:26 AM
Originally posted by qwerty78
walang malisya sa ginawa ni Bro. Rolly... ang mga tao sa paligid niya ang madumi ang utak. yun nga lang, sana ginamit na lang niya sa ibang bagay.

at least di siya tulad ng ibang tao diyan na basta basta na lang mambabalato pag nananalo ng mahjong o kaya eh dahil sa malaki ang kita sa hueteng! hehehe...



Ah we're talking of Bro. Andrew not Bro. Roly.

Pero I just want to say regarding this issue....

Natambakan na siya ng CHAVIT-ERAP issue!

qwerty78
Oct 12, 2000, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by crispypata
Ah we're talking of Bro. Andrew not Bro. Roly.

Pero I just want to say regarding this issue....

Natambakan na siya ng CHAVIT-ERAP issue!
i was also talking about Bro. Andrew. sorry at mali ang natype kong name. hehehe...

oo nga eh. bakit, mas dapat lang namang pagtuunan ng pansin yang erap na iyan. presidente ng pilipinas eh.

tapos eto na naman tayo, bagsak na naman ang piso. ok din tayo ano? magbibeat na nga lang tayo ng record, record pa ng lowest peso value natin! mwahahaha! not something we should be proud of.

Cronides
Oct 13, 2000, 11:09 AM
If one person starts to say something undesirable about some personality, several others immediately find the courage to do the same, mindless of the shallowness of their opinions. While the emotion is still there, we would always admit that our allegations are justified but after some time and the issue has cooled down, we begin to realize our lack of grace and tact. I should know, from experience. Brother Andrew is one of the misunderstood. After reading the recent issue of TLS I felt more guilty of believing all the rumors, and again falling prey to the abovementioned predicament. But then, at least I wasn't among the flock of La Sallites who indiscriminately wrote their petty emotional outbursts on the freedom walls all over the campus. On one hand, the freedom walls served their purpose of getting those thoughts out of the shell but on the other hand, they reveal a poignant truth about the studentry. I hope the next time we could all be more critical and less judgemental. One thing is for sure though, Brother Andrew should be around to stay because he still remains the most qualified person to do the job.

Peace!

lilldude26
Oct 13, 2000, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by garahe
Your opinion counts...

First of all the DECS service vehicles purchased by DECS are the property of DECS and NOT the personal property of Education Secretary Brother Andrew and his undersecretaries.
If they wanted to steal these service vehicles they would have placed these vehicles under their personal names. Therefore even if Brother Andrew is GONE from DECS or his present undersecretaries, the said service vehicles would still be the property of DECS.

Secondly, Brother Andrew did NOT get the money to purchase these service vehicles from the DECS annual BUDGET give by Congress. Therefore it is WRONG for the public school teachers (upon the instigation of Enrile?) to blame their LOW SALARIES on the purchase of these vehicles since their salaries come from the annual DECS Budget given by Congress.
Brother Andrew precisely asked for a DONATION from LandBank which was later approved by the LandBank officials and the Commission of Audit - for DECS to purchase the badly needed service vehicles.

When Brother Andrew took over DECS in June 1998, he found out that DECS had no decent official vehicles nor did they have any budget to purchase these service vehicles for the daily official travelling needs of the TOP Education officials.

Why is Juan Ponce Enrile trying his BEST to remove Brother Andrew from DECS and why is he only zering in on Brother Andrew's P 1.7 million Ford Expedition Official Service Vehicle? Why doesn't Enrile also zero in on the official service vehicles of President Estrada - a Mercedes 600 vehicle and Vice President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo's official service vehicle which are worth a LOT MORE than Brother Andrew's Official vehicle?

Is it because Brother Andrew did NOT approve his request to facilitate the release of P 400 million worth of DECS supplies to Enrile's favored supplier? We have to remember that in late 1998, Brother Andrew blew the whistle on ERAP's own 2nd cousin Celia Ejercito when she tried to facilitate a TEXTBOOK deal which Brother Andrew disapproved.

One thing we are SURE of, if Enrile and his crooks succeed in removing Education Secretary Brother Andrew from DECS
then the crooks in DECS would be extremely happy since there would be no more HONEST person in the person of Brother Andrew to block their shady deals.

Lets not be fooled by a known crook like Juan Ponce Enrile.

lilldude26
Oct 13, 2000, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by garahe
Your opinion counts...

First of all the DECS service vehicles purchased by DECS are the property of DECS and NOT the personal property of Education Secretary Brother Andrew and his undersecretaries.
If they wanted to steal these service vehicles they would have placed these vehicles under their personal names. Therefore even if Brother Andrew is GONE from DECS or his present undersecretaries, the said service vehicles would still be the property of DECS.

Secondly, Brother Andrew did NOT get the money to purchase these service vehicles from the DECS annual BUDGET give by Congress. Therefore it is WRONG for the public school teachers (upon the instigation of Enrile?) to blame their LOW SALARIES on the purchase of these vehicles since their salaries come from the annual DECS Budget given by Congress.
Brother Andrew precisely asked for a DONATION from LandBank which was later approved by the LandBank officials and the Commission of Audit - for DECS to purchase the badly needed service vehicles.

When Brother Andrew took over DECS in June 1998, he found out that DECS had no decent official vehicles nor did they have any budget to purchase these service vehicles for the daily official travelling needs of the TOP Education officials.

Why is Juan Ponce Enrile trying his BEST to remove Brother Andrew from DECS and why is he only zering in on Brother Andrew's P 1.7 million Ford Expedition Official Service Vehicle? Why doesn't Enrile also zero in on the official service vehicles of President Estrada - a Mercedes 600 vehicle and Vice President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo's official service vehicle which are worth a LOT MORE than Brother Andrew's Official vehicle?

Is it because Brother Andrew did NOT approve his request to facilitate the release of P 400 million worth of DECS supplies to Enrile's favored supplier? We have to remember that in late 1998, Brother Andrew blew the whistle on ERAP's own 2nd cousin Celia Ejercito when she tried to facilitate a TEXTBOOK deal which Brother Andrew disapproved even at the risk of incurring ERAP's ire.

One thing we are SURE of, if Enrile and his crooks succeed in removing Education Secretary Brother Andrew from DECS
then the crooks in DECS would be extremely happy since there would be no more HONEST/UPRIGHT person in the person of Education Secretary Brother Andrew to block their shady deals.

Lets not be fooled by a known crook like Juan Ponce Enrile.

Ice Burn
Oct 13, 2000, 02:06 PM
Baka naman nung nasa LaSalle pa yun, nambubulsa na yun ng tuition ng mga students. Well, you never know. Afterall, how much does a student pay per sem? P30,000? Multiply it by the number of students? Tsk, tsk...Who knows how much really goes back to the students.

frankie
Oct 13, 2000, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by Ice Burn
Baka naman nung nasa LaSalle pa yun, nambubulsa na yun ng tuition ng mga students. Well, you never know. Afterall, how much does a student pay per sem? P30,000? Multiply it by the number of students? Tsk, tsk...Who knows how much really goes back to the students.

Ice Burn:

We true La Sallians know Brother Andrew a lot BETTER than Ateneans like you. So don't jump into hasty conclusions that most Ateneans like you WOULD LIKE TO BELIEVE. Brother Andrew would NEVER steal anything like what you insinuate not only because he is a RELIGIOUS BROTHER but also because of his known morally upright personality. Even if he is a Christian Brother, Brother Andrew comes from one of the richest families in the Philippines and has in fact donated to De La Salle a lot more than the P24 million Landbank donation he used to purchase the badly needed DECS vehicles.

For your info Brother Andrew is a member of the Institute of the Brothers of the Christian Schools (De La Salle Brothers)
whose main mission is to provide and offer quality education. That is why there are also La Salle Schools in the poorer areas of Luzon, the Visayas and Mindanao - to enable the Christian Brothers to ALSO provide
the same high quality of education to the provincial La Sallians like those offered to La Sallians in Metro Manila.

Even in DLSU-Manila, more than 10% of the poorer but deserving students are given totally free academic scholarships by La Salle.

Why do the La Sallians pay an extremely high Tuition Fee per Trimester? Because these are necessary for DLSU-Manila to provide its college students the BEST POSSIBLE COLLEGE EDUCATION in the Philippines. Quality College Education costs a lot of money.

Unlike UP-Diliman which is subsidized by the National Government to the tune of P 6 Billion per year which enable UP to charge very low Tuition Fees to its students - PRIVATE Philippine universities like DLSU-Manila has to rely only on the Tuition Fees it charges its students.

Sure La Salle can charge FAR LOWER Tuition Fees like those of UST, FEU, UE, Adamson and the like but the La Salle standard of college education would deteriorate to the level of these universities.

That is why DLSU-Manila is considered as the BEST PRIVATE UNIVERSITY in the PHILIPPINES due to its superior standard of College Education offered and its superior facilities. Even unbiased foreign entities like Asiaweek, Microsoft, etc. attest to this fact.

La Salle tries to be the BEST in anything it does be it in academics, research or sports. That is why La Salle produces the BEST people in fields it specializes in.

Education Secretary Brother Andrew Gonzalez FSC is one of them. That is why even ERAP chose him to be the Education Secretary in June 1998 because he is the BEST qualified person in the Philippines to handle the DECS job.

Peace.

[Edited by frankie on 10-13-2000 at 09:04 PM]

alcuazas
Oct 13, 2000, 04:27 PM
Enrile clearly has an axe to grind against DECS Secretary Brother Andrew since he failed to influence Bro. Andrew in approving his recommended P 400 million textbook deal to Enrile's favored supplier.

We all know Enrile's HIDDEN AGENDA.

Cronides
Oct 13, 2000, 05:55 PM
lilldude26: thanks so much for clearing things up. I hope now people would think twice before doing any senseless bashing.

Peace!

TheOrdinaryMan
Oct 13, 2000, 06:10 PM
Andrew Gonzales is not a brother he is a conyo pig in all terms (physically,religiously,mentally, and the way he acts!)

PIGS LIKE HIM SHOULD BE KILLED! LECHONIN!

And do u believe the statement released by DLSU that he is a man of total honesty and integrity? talaga lang ha? di ipako na sya sa krus para pala syang si Jesus. If a man like that exist today then can someone throw some testicles to me!

Kill the Filth PIG!

garrygrey
Oct 13, 2000, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by TheOrdinaryMan
Andrew Gonzales is not a brother he is a conyo pig in all terms (physically,religiously,mentally, and the way he acts!)

PIGS LIKE HIM SHOULD BE KILLED! LECHONIN!

And do u believe the statement released by DLSU that he is a man of total honesty and integrity? talaga lang ha? di ipako na sya sa krus para pala syang si Jesus. If a man like that exist today then can someone throw some testicles to me!

Kill the Filth PIG!

"TheOrdinaryMan":

SHUT UP!

It is pathetic and dumb people like you who are JUDGEMENTAL WITHOUT THINKING who deserve ENRILE and his kind. Maybe you are one of Enrile's bagmen in DECS who since Brother Andrew took over - totally lost your loot in DECS.

You are like the unthinking public school teachers (who were misled by Enrile) who vent their ire on Brother Andrew & his Undersecretaries thinking WRONGLY that the money used for the purchase of the said DEC service vehicles came from the DECS Budget at the expense of increasing their salaries NOT KNOWING that
the money used did NOT come at all from the DECS Annual Budget. They should be reminded that their salaries can only sourced from the DECS Budget.

The Philippines can be a BETTER place to live without STUPID people like you.

Ice Burn
Oct 13, 2000, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by frankie
Ice Burn:

We true La Sallians know Brother Andrew a lot BETTER than Ateneans like you. So don't jump into hasty conclusions that most Ateneans like you WOULD LIKE TO BELIEVE. Brother Andrew would NEVER steal anything like what you insinuate not only because he is a RELIGIOUS BROTHER but also because of his known morally upright personality. Even if he is a Christian Brother, Brother Andrew comes from one of the richest families in the Philippines and has in fact donated to De La Salle a lot more than the P24 million Landbank donation he used to purchase the badly needed DECS vehicles.

Peace.



Frankie:

Just because I happen to mention that Bro. Andrew might have pocketed some funds doesn't mean I am jumping into hasty conclusions. I may insinuate but I am not conclusive hence the word baka. And please don't drag Ateneo into this fray. What if I wasn't an Atenean by the way? Furthermore, just because he is a member of a religious order, that doesn't mean that he isn't subjected to the falls of humanity. Are you saying that since he is a Brother, he isn't vulnerable to temptation, to corruption? You need to change your views. Not all the relgious are saints you know. Do you know that I also believe some of our enlightened Jesuits in Ateneo pocket some money too? The Jesuits are very rich mind you and they are supposed to have a vow of poverty. So, this isn't just about your precious Bro. Andrew, you know...

You're so quick to defend Bro. Andrew when what he did was clearly wrong. So, fine he donated tons of money to LaSalle. So, why did he allow such purcheses to occur when he of all the people should know the standings of the millions of teachers out there. You just said that Bro. Andrew came from a very wealthy family. Then, pray, why did he used the money donated by LandBank for his Ford Expedition? Couldn't he have used money from his own pocket?

You know, I just finished my work regarding Teacher's Ameleoration for Optimum Well-Being. This survey checks to see if Public school teachers are happy or not. Obviously, the fugures weren't surprising. There were 400,000 respndents. And most of them did not even get adeqaute lighting, chairs or any of the basic needs that a teacher must have in order to teach his/her students. Tell me, is that justice? Does Bro. Andrew and his officials need more cars? Or do these teachers need more chalk, chairs, tables and so forth. Tell me which is more important then? Cars or teachers' basic necessities to provide quality education?

How close are you to Bro. Andrew that you actually know his character inside out? Correct me if I am wrong but I bet you've never even spoken to him.

And I seriously think that you are a hypocrite. How could you end your reply with peace when you're bashing my school and the integrity of other Ateneans? You're also violating my right to speak my mind.

NeoTemplar
Oct 13, 2000, 11:36 PM
I've been reading this thread and do my eyes deceive me? Erap appointed Bro. Andrew Gonzales! Whoop-dee-do!!! It figures, Birds of a Feather...Tsk, tsk :rolleyes:

Anybody here want to hit me?

uptowngirl
Oct 13, 2000, 11:53 PM
Continue your discussion in
Bro. Andrew Gonzalez (http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php3?threadid=16818).