Letran and Ateneo's Historical Benedictine Connection.

[alvin_cabal2000]

:D

This should be a good start for the coming NCAA season.

Letranites, do you know that the founder of Letran was a Member of the Knights of Malta. An order which was founded by the Benedictines in 600 AD under the order of Pope Gregory the Great? Yes the Benedictines who also run San Beda College.:D

http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Knights_Hospitaller

The Ateneans may know this one already.

St. Ignatius de Loyola wanted to become a Benedictine monk but later on founded his own order. In a statue found inside Ateneo, St. Ingatius de Loyola was offering his sword to Our Lady of Montserrat, the patronness of the Benedictines. The Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius was also roughly based on the Rule of St. Benedict.:D

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14224b.htm


For all its worth, I think there is a historical basis for your schools to be civil with each other. Ateneo-San Beda seems OK now. San Beda-Letran should hopefully be the next step.....:D

*okay*

[herdz]

I am a proud son of San Beda, and I now teach at Letran, where I find students to be respectful.

No need to amplify the rift, really.

No institution has a monopoly of virtues... and school spirit.


ANIMO SAN BEDA!*okay*
ARRIBA LETRAN!*okay*

[herdz]

I am a proud son of San Beda, and I now teach at Letran, where I find students to be respectful.

No need to amplify the rift, really.

No institution has a monopoly of virtues... and school spirit.


ANIMO SAN BEDA!*okay*
ARRIBA LETRAN!*okay*

[onthebluecorner]

^^Cool Alvin Cabal, at least let's mend our glitches...no more bashing between Beda and Letran.

Arriba Letran!

[alvin_cabal2000]

^^Cool Alvin Cabal, at least let's mend our glitches...no more bashing between Beda and Letran.

Arriba Letran!

onthebluecorner,

I do not represent the Bedans for I am no Bedan. But I do support San Beda, Ateneo and La Salle (before the controversy). Between La Salle and Letran, I go for your school.

If you have noticed, the Bedans out here in pex have no appetite for bashing Letran on the first place. Surely you have noticed the respect the Bedans have extended to Letran in gameface.ph.*okay*

I know that well meaning Letranites also have no reason to bash any other school. The few Letran poster in gameface is enough proof.*okay*

You guys can police your ranks. All the other schools in the NCAA will have to police their ranks also.

Otherwise, I am going to trash and bash those damn posters from whatever school they come from.:D

Good luck to the NCAA!

[atenean_blooded]

To be precise, Ignatius wanted to emulate St. Francis of Assisi and other saints, particularly those of the monastic sort. He visited Monserrat and Manresa because these were popular centers of religion in Spain. There, he would have dealt with many Benedictines, and this was consistent with his desire to be like a hermit, to follow in the footsteps of the great monastic leaders. But the text cited and most accepted biographies of Ignatius are silent about Ignatius wanting to become a Benedictine monk. What is clear is that he dealt with Benedictines.

[comsite_boy]

Letran, Ateneo and San Beda are schools which are rich in history. If you watch any NCAA or UAAP game, you can feel the class of these schools.

im a letranite by heart and soul, and ive watch games of the said teams. Letran-beda wars inside the court will still remain inside the court. outside the court, you can see different products of Letran and Beda in the corporate world which are close friends.

ive watched Ateneo games most especially against lasalle and they showed what is really Ateneo Education is all about. Whatever field they are in to, they showed to the people that they are the Ateneans.

ARRIBA LETRAN!
ONE BIG FIGHT!
ANIMO SAN BEDA!

[atenean_blooded]

Isn't Letran a Dominican school?

[bluerthanblu]

To Herdz - ikaw ba si Herdy Yumul?

Arriba Letran!

[alvin_cabal2000]

Isn't Letran a Dominican school?


Yes it is. Founded by a member of the Knights of Malta and eventually became a Dominican school.

The Knights of Malta was originally a Benedictine Hospitaller Order.

True there was no explicit reference to Ignatius's Benedictine aspirations. Probalby he won't be able to become one for he was a soldier by profession. However, based on the link, it was clear that he emulated the Benedictines and the Spritual Exercises which he wrote was rooted in the Benedictine tradition. Loyola's own reformulation is of course original. But that's just from that single link.


No more bashing among NCAA schools. Let the trashings be done in the basketball courts... *peace*

[red_track]

oo nga. sa court (basketball) lang tayo mag giyera pero sa labas. wala na dapat.

[pulang leon]

Yes it is. Founded by a member of the Knights of Malta and eventually became a Dominican school.

The Knights of Malta was originally a Benedictine Hospitaller Order.

True there was no explicit reference to Ignatius's Benedictine aspirations. Probalby he won't be able to become one for he was a soldier by profession. However, based on the link, it was clear that he emulated the Benedictines and the Spritual Exercises which he wrote was rooted in the Benedictine tradition. Loyola's own reformulation is of course original. But that's just from that single link.


No more bashing among NCAA schools. Let the trashings be done in the basketball courts... *peace*

Kulet eh noh? Anyway, what about on other links? Have they been questioned on their originality? I read one but I didn't find it on any other link, it's also on the same link that you've already provided.

Also new, the Opus Dei, that was falsely depicted in the movie Da Vinci Code, was also also given a hard time by the Jesuits when they first started. The Jesuits tried stopping the Opus Dei from growing.

[ungga]

letran was founded by don juan geronimo guerero a knight of the order of Malta and a Dominican priest nakalimutan ko pangalan para pag-aralin yung mga mahihirap na bata noon sa Intramuros pero kabaligtaran na yung nangyari ngayon...

[alvin_cabal2000]

letran was founded by don juan geronimo guerero a knight of the order of Malta and a Dominican priest nakalimutan ko pangalan para pag-aralin yung mga mahihirap na bata noon sa Intramuros pero kabaligtaran na yung nangyari ngayon...

Yeah.. Ateneo, San Beda, La Salle and Letran were all originally intended to be schools for the poor. I guess all the founders of all these schools failed on this one.:D

Nevermind the Opus Dei. The Jesuits will take care of them.:D

[alvin_cabal2000]

Kulet eh noh? Anyway, what about on other links? Have they been questioned on their originality? I read one but I didn't find it on any other link, it's also on the same link that you've already provided.

Also new, the Opus Dei, that was falsely depicted in the movie Da Vinci Code, was also also given a hard time by the Jesuits when they first started. The Jesuits tried stopping the Opus Dei from growing.


The dispute between a Benedicitne monk (not sanctioned by the Benedictine monastery) and the Jesuits regarding the originality the Spirutal exercises was settled amicably.

According to the reference provided:

"Benedictines and Jesuits agree to acknowledge that if St. Ignatius owes anything to Montserrat, he has retained his entire originality. Whatever may be said about the works he read and what he borrowed, his book is truly his own. A writer is never blamed for having previously searched and studied, if his own work is impressed with his personality, and treats the subject from a new point of view."


Oh..I forgot to mention, when St. Ignatius' wanted to emulate the hermits of Christendom, he may actually be interested in following the Rules of St. Benedict. All forms of Western monasticism are rooted in the Benedicitine tradition.

But Loyola was not to be a monk. He was to become the soldier of Chirst, the founder of the Society of Jesus. It is a well know fact the the Jesuit Order was fashioned along militaristic lines with their leaders being called Generals, Superior Generals.

[atenean_blooded]

Kulet eh noh? Anyway, what about on other links? Have they been questioned on their originality? I read one but I didn't find it on any other link, it's also on the same link that you've already provided.

Also new, the Opus Dei, that was falsely depicted in the movie Da Vinci Code, was also also given a hard time by the Jesuits when they first started. The Jesuits tried stopping the Opus Dei from growing.

The Opus Dei's ideas, in my opinion, are cute, but are nothing new.

All Catholics have piety and sanctification of life demanded of them.

And the ideas that the Opus Dei try to spin as phenomenal, that of being contemplatives in daily life, of sanctification of work and daily life, because God is in all things? Those are things the Jesuits have been talking about even when Ignatius was alive.

And it's not as if the corporal punishment's anything impressive. Even recently, some Jesuits at the Ateneo de Manila were doing that.

[dagitab24]

The Jesuit-Opus Dei rivalry also became more pronounced in the tumultuous 1970's, right after Vatican II, when various Church reforms were introduced.

Remember that after the Latin American Dominicans (Gustavo Gutierrez et al), the Filipino Jesuits were the foremost exponents of the so-called liberation theology, which would've been the dominant train of thought if not for JPII and then-Cardinal Ratzinger's condemnation of the said school.

This was around the time that the Opus Dei became a personal <whatchamacallit? prelature?> of the pope, and Josemaria Escriva was beatified. The "Black Pope" (colloquial term for the Jesuit superior-general) lost his influence in the papacy, and along with it, the OD's influence grew.

As for the Benedictines, they're still content with making fine wine in California's Napa Valley. And prayer, work, and peace.

[atenean_blooded]

dagitab24:

There's a little joke about the Jesuit influence on the papacy diminishing.

The reason? Why influence the papacy, when the Jesuits can just dominate the universe?

:p

Besides, one of the strongest candidates for next papacy, even if it may be a bit premature to think about it now, is a Jesuit.