Civil Engineer

[omeng]

Guys, what school do you suggest to take this course? How many years or units to take since am an aero grad since nineteen kupong kupong pa. I want to pursue my childhood dream, of course beside piloting a plane. :D

Only night schooling will only do because I have to work in daylight. Thanks.

[tophe_17]

Mapua Institute of Technology

*well coincidentally, most of the major courses in this program are scheduled nighttime.

http://www.mapua.edu.ph

[omeng]

Thanks. Funny, kung saan saan pinag papasa ang call ko. Admission, costumer service, college, registrar, admission.. nahihilo sa tanong ko. :lol:

[tophe_17]

in MIT? Haha... I suggest you inquire personally.

With regards to your first post, I am not familiar with the curriculum of the program you finished so I cannot check if some of the courses you took could be credited - perhaps SLHS courses (e.g. ENGLSH111/112 etc.).

http://ce-ense.mapua.edu.ph/

[tophe_17]

omeng: By the way, what area of CE would you like to specialize in?

[makulitz]

:lol: weird natin omeng...

ako Civil engineering stud na gusto pa maging pilot.. *** pilot na gusto pa mag-CE...ewan..hehe

ok naman sa mapua:rolleyes: hehe pero i suggest to take the upcat... mas ok syempre UP, IMHO...;)

btw, same process din ba kahit tapos ka na ng uindergrad at gusto mo kumuha ng course sa ibang school? you should also take UPCAT o ibang exam?

[omeng]

@ tophe 17

they asked me to go there personally and present my transcript. i told them that can i just scan and email it to them with the letter of intent. but still, they insist of going me there in flesh. funny, kaya pala sabi ng ginebra san miguel, bilog ang mundo and according to bill gates, the world is flat. why do i need to go there when i can easily give my transcript on line in just few minutes? Grrrrrr.


@ makulitz

thanks for infos. btw, i'm not a pilot.. baka maraming mabighani dito dahil akalain nila i have this big fat bank account.. he he.. am an aero grad with few flying hours in a mini tiny small cessna 150. and now undertaker. that's all. :D

[omeng]

omeng: By the way, what area of CE would you like to specialize in?

No idea yet. What do you suggest? I plan to put up my own construction firm late next year. Resedential first then commercial.

[blue_tracer]

No idea yet. What do you suggest? I plan to put up my own construction firm late next year. Resedential first then commercial.

suggestion lang capt. omeng (he he he).. buti ka pa nakapagpalipad, kami pangarap lang.. saka na lang ako kuwento about airplanes.. suggestion ko lang, and i think many would agree: construction project management.. may ce sa mit ngayon (parang kay tophe_17) na puwede ideretso sa masters ng const. project management.. eksakto sa plano mong magtayo ng firm.. saktong sakto yan at patok. *okay*

pero kahit hindi sa mapua, madami rin namang choices eh. up, ust, de la salle, adamson. yun nga lang medyo maganda yata mga facilities ng mit ngayon.

[tophe_17]

^ I don't think there is a Construction Engineering program in UP or in La Salle. Even UST doesn't offer the program. I am in the process of researching some potential MS Thesis topics and my professors suggest I research on PLM or in AdU. Using that as basis, perhaps they offer the program.

So far, CN (Construction Eng'g) is more on managerial aspects rather than technical. Grabe, puro presentations. But its great coz you get to learn more on how construction operation works and how to apply business management in the industry.

[tophe_17]

No idea yet. What do you suggest? I plan to put up my own construction firm late next year. Resedential first then commercial.

I suggest you pursue Construction Engineering as your major in CE.

[tophe_17]

@ tophe 17

they asked me to go there personally and present my transcript. i told them that can i just scan and email it to them with the letter of intent. but still, they insist of going me there in flesh. funny, kaya pala sabi ng ginebra san miguel, bilog ang mundo and according to bill gates, the world is flat. why do i need to go there when i can easily give my transcript on line in just few minutes? Grrrrrr.

In Mapua they want everything to be official and they do not treat cyberspace as a means of making transaction.

They don't even treat the grades posted online as official documents/basis.

[omeng]

Construction Engineering.. hmmm.. sound very interesting. Thanks.

I do my transaction online even long term binding contracts and of course it will be official, too. Anyway it's their prerogative, but it seems so strange to me that the well known MAPUA is still structured type of doing transactions. What's the point of putting their informations online as shown in their website? Nakakatabang lang ng gana or maybe those employees are the structured type persons and not the system.

By the way, my older brother graduated in that school. Got his degree in Computer Engineering. A disqualified cum laude because of his ROTC failure grade.

[tophe_17]

^ Oh... sayang.
Perhaps. There are many old folks there. :glee:
I think I was quite wrong when I said (generalized) that everything online is unofficial. I was only referring to the online posting of grades. The grades there cannot be used as official papers.

Well, there are some that can be claimed official like the Generated Schedule and Assessment Forms (online enrolment system), online payment of fees and other admission forms (for people abroad).

Sorry again for that... I stand corrected.

Well, of course before you choose a specialty, you have to learn everything in Civil Engineering.

[omeng]

The other day, I was with my belgian business friend at the airport. He's a civil engineer, too. We talked about the posibilities of bringing this technology in building residential house here in the philippines. They started already in Thailand and he asked me if I can handle the responsibilities as "project manager or equivalent" if they decided to invest in Manila. What do you think, guys? Here's the link, www.matisco.be. (Sorry no english) :D

[tophe_17]

^ Interesting. I relied on the pictures... I assume that the construction methodology is a "pre-fabricated house" and assembled directly on the site (?).
Not so sure about that, if only somebody could translate the foreign language in English, then we can have good discussion concerning this technology of house building. Quite near to my (possible) thesis topic, because I am pursuing a paper in housing projects in the Philippines.

Anyway, since you are to manage a project, I recommend that you take up Construction Engineering. Its more on project management and leadership.

[tophe_17]

If ever that will be applied here in the Phils., with those style of houses, its fitting if its to be built in Tagaytay or in Baguio.

Manila? Nah... Montgomery Place in E. Rod. (QC) is nice though.

[omeng]

tophe 17, he left a cd and some magazines for me to see how they build houses. It's really interesting. If only I can send to your email but the files are big. He asked me a sample blue print of what we do in manila so they can have estimate and can compare the price if applicable here. It doesn't necessary the same model like in their website, you know. So it's no issue whether in Manila, Tagaytay or Baguio.

I am familiar with Montgomery. I visited the area trice and Ayala is making a lot of money with 1 unit. Prices are too high. Well, its good business for them. :D

Try to visit this another style of building residential house, http://www.getit.at/sws, you might get something from it for your thesis. I have pending transaction with them and if materialize, I don't know if I can still find time for schooling of that construction management.

[makulitz]

Not so sure about that, if only somebody could translate the foreign language in English, then we can have good discussion concerning this technology of house building. Quite near to my (possible) thesis topic, because I am pursuing a paper in housing projects in the Philippines.



visit this site:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/

type the url and choose DUTCH TO ENGLISH
sana nakatulong. :D

interesting site.. unlike sa modular houses ng GK and H4H na sa site pa ginagawa ang fabrication, dito *** buong bahay mismo ay ginagawa sa workshop tapos install na agad.. ayos. *okay*

[one-shot]

Civil Eng'g? Anu-ano ba maaaring maging trabaho ko kung sakaling kumuha ako nun? Curious lang ako...ang dami kasing gustong kumuha ng course na'to.

[tophe_17]

^ CE is a very broad profession. You can engage in works like Structural Design, Construction Engineering (a very broad field too - you can engage in land development, engineering management, real estate, etc.), Transportation Eng'g (most of them are in TEC), Water Resources (mind you, CE can be an accredited Environmental engineer), Geotechnical Eng'g (people working in mining firms and other soil-related stuffs).

omeng and makulitz: Thanx for that. Check that out later. I must agree... Montgomery Place is a very nice and elegant place for a living. Its location is strategic and ideal.

[omeng]

Good morning, guys.

Now, I'm in trouble. The construction management in Thailand wants to come down here by September. Deym! I should work my @ss double time now.

[makulitz]

^pressure yan ah... :lol:
considering na wala ka pa masyadong background sa construction management.
so what's your next plan? enroll na...hehe

omeng,hire mo na lang kami ni tophe...hehe

kaunti lang pala CE sa pex... wala masyado tao dito eh..

[blue_tracer]

hhm.. pre-fab house.. bilis ikabit.. tingnan mo nga naman concept ng belgians 'no.. medyo malayo na sila sa atin.

[tophe_17]

Are there any school offering Construction Management aside from Mapua?

[arigatu]

hhm.. pre-fab house.. bilis ikabit.. tingnan mo nga naman concept ng belgians 'no.. medyo malayo na sila sa atin.


Naunahan na sila ng mga professional squatters natin...mura pa...:D

[omeng]

^ He he. :D

Makulitz, he knew that i'm not yet experienced in that field but he said the most important is to find trusted people. Anyway, I can easily learn that stuff.. eh kung yung Jumbo 747 series 400 na eroplano pinaglalaruan ko lang.. mwehehe.. toink*

[tophe_17]

Are you aware guys that a Civil Engineer can act as an Environmental Engineer without completing (taking) the said program (ESE)?

[tophe_17]

Isn't it that PICE is the organization that regulates Structural Engineers and other specialty fields for civil engineers?

Its a good thing that CEs take the board once unlike other engineering professions. What do you think if aside from CE Board, there's gonna be 5 more exams corresponding with the 5 areas of CE? :D

[omeng]

Good morning, guys.

Been busy for almost a month. The construction business was incorporated sooner than I planned.

I created a new topic with this regard in "working filipino" section. Please join m, rocking the boat. Thanks.

Here's the link.. http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266497

[faux_ph]

^^bump

taas lang natin ito

[faux_ph]

Isn't it that PICE is the organization that regulates Structural Engineers and other specialty fields for civil engineers?

Its a good thing that CEs take the board once unlike other engineering professions. What do you think if aside from CE Board, there's gonna be 5 more exams corresponding with the 5 areas of CE? :D

There's a move already that Structural Engineering Practice will have an exam prior to being accredited as a practicing structural Engineer. Next year yata ma-fo-formalize.:hmm:

[tophe_17]

Oh, so it's more than just joining ASEP, right?

[stepehenyan@12]

try mo manuel l quezon university, TIP, TUP, PUP. national university. san po location nyo.

[tophe_17]

With regard to "specialty" exam:

PICE Manual Section 1, Item 1.5 says:

Within the practice of civil engineering, the PICE recognizes the initial five areas of specialization. A Civil Engineer who has demonstrated his knowledge, experience, education, and training in accordance with the requirements of the concerned Specialty Committee of the PICE is awarded a certificate of specialization by PICE. Those awarded with the certificates are considered qualified for positions in the respective areas of specialization.

The PICE recognizes specializations in the fields of structural engineering, geotechnical engineering, water engineering, transportation engineering, and construction management and engineering. A Civil Engineer who has specialized in any area of civil engineering may be considered as a specialist in the appropriate field as enumerated.

Are this specialty certificates not enough to practice specialized civil engineering works?

[faux_ph]

^^The clause you mentioned means that thru the specialty board you may be recognized as specialist on the field of specialization you chose ( as some of the few people I worked with are PICE recognized "Specialist"). But to be accredited as such (particularly to the young ones ) is a different matter.

[stepehenyan@12]

marami MANUEL L QUEZON UNIVERSITY http://www.mlqu.edu.ph/engg.html
UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES
TUP http://www.tup.edu.ph/PAGE/coesite/ce.htm
TIP www.tip.edu.ph
UST http://www.ust.edu.ph/
NU http://www.nu.edu.ph/sub-frmnu4.html
MAPUA
ADAMSON http://www.adamson.edu.ph/colleges/engineering/main.shtml
UE www.ue.edu.ph
UP http://www.upd.edu.ph/

bahala ka na mamimili *** sa pangalan ng school nasa kung maipapasa mo board. yung mga kakilala ko nag engineer di na tinapos course yung iba nabagot sa kakaaral imagine 5 yrs nagiging magnanineyears.

[tophe_17]

MAPUA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY (http://www.mapua.edu.ph)

OR go directly at

MIT School of Civil Engineering and Environmental & Sanitary Engineering (http://ce-ense.mapua.edu.ph/)


faux_ph: ok. So one has to be a PICE-recognized specialist before he takes the "Structural Engineering Board"? Or Vice Versa? Or both aren't dependent with each other?
To be an ASEP member, you also have to take a test, right? So it's another "test"?

[faux_ph]

So one has to be a PICE-recognized specialist before he takes the "Structural Engineering Board"? Or Vice Versa? Or both aren't dependent with each other?

The specialty board (struc'l.geotech'l,water,transport,CM)are the authority that gives recognition to CE as "specialist", by virtue of the power vested by the Civil Engineering Board of PRC. The specialty board are formed and organized by PICE. Thus, once recognized by the specialty board, you are also recognized specialist of PICE.

To be an ASEP member, you also have to take a test, right? So it's another "test"?
Not really. You just have to furnish 3 recommendation letters from ASEP regular members and satisfy the requirements as stipulated in the application letter ( i.e. number of years of experience,academic ahievements,etc) depending on the what type of membership (associate or regular ).

[faux_ph]

^^bumping this thread up

[makulitz]

new Civil Engineer in the house. ;)

[Ashlars]

new Civil Engineer in the house. ;)

Congratulations. :)

[tophe_17]

Anybody here who knows anything on the recent International Conference on Alkali-Aggregate Reaction held in Beijing (2004)?

Damn, I can hardly find any local source about the latest talks on this important concrete deterioration mechanism.

Do you think ASEP, PICE or any local civil engineering organization has this info? I cannot access ASEP's for they require only members to use their resources. :(

[tophe_17]

faux_ph: Thanks for info, by the way. :)

[clawed_out]

new Civil Engineer in the house. ;)

Congratulations makulitz!

[faux_ph]

Anybody here who knows anything on the recent International Conference on Alkali-Aggregate Reaction held in Beijing (2004)?

Damn, I can hardly find any local source about the latest talks on this important concrete deterioration mechanism.

Do you think ASEP, PICE or any local civil engineering organization has this info? I cannot access ASEP's for they require only members to use their resources. :(
If you're trying to access technical papers, you can hardly get them for free. Such technical papers don't come without a price. Try mo mag subscribe. If you're into research you'll get your money's worth. Some subscription to tech'l papers only cost less than $50 for 1 year where you can even access the back issues. Some universities in US such as UC Berkeley allow access to their technical library for a year for one time fee. If you're trying to access ASCE papers, then mahal nga yun.*okay*

[faux_ph]

faux_ph: Thanks for info, by the way. :)

Don't mention it.*okay*

Attend some ASEP or PICE sponsored conferences every now and then so you can familiarize and be aware more about what's going on in our profession. Its one way of improving the the skills and quality of profession;)

[tophe_17]

If you're trying to access technical papers, you can hardly get them for free. Such technical papers don't come without a price. Try mo mag subscribe. If you're into research you'll get your money's worth. Some subscription to tech'l papers only cost less than $50 for 1 year where you can even access the back issues. Some universities in US such as UC Berkeley allow access to their technical library for a year for one time fee. If you're trying to access ASCE papers, then mahal nga yun.*okay*

True. But we have those ASCE technical papers in school, so no problem accessing foreign technical publications like ASCE's.

What I need is ASEP's. :)

[faux_ph]

^^Pa-member ka na lang ng ASEP.;)

[tophe_17]

^ Perhaps 2 years from now.
I'm still a student. :)

[faux_ph]

Meron namang student-level membership ang ASEP, i think.

[tophe_17]

^ Ah ok. I'll check that out. Thanks. :)

I've checked the website of ASEP, especially their forums and... damn!
It's unexpectably disgusting!

[tophe_17]

^ Ah ok. I'll check that out. Thanks. :)

I've checked the website of ASEP, especially their forums and... damn!
It's unexpectably disgusting!

[omeng]

been a while, guys. musta ang mga guardia civil? :D

congrats sa iyo makulitz!

[tophe_17]

It's surprising to know that there's totally no reported case of Alkali-Aggregate Reaction (AAR) in the Philippines. Other countries have already researched a lot on cases of such in their respective countries after almost half a century... and here we are... doing nothing.

Then it's also disappointing to see most people in the DPWH for not being courteous enough to accomodate researchers... what more in doing research themselves?! My golly...

Anyway,
Any information, guys, on the listed "vulnerable" buildings of the DPWH?
According to a PDI report (dated May 31, 2006), cracks were seen in the structure, mostly school buildings, that when a strong earthquake strikes, it will possibly bring down these buildings.
I want to know the description of these "cracks" they were talking about - be it structural or non-structural.

[faux_ph]

You should take a look of the JICA-MMDA report on MMEIRS (Metro Manila Earthquake Impact Reduction Study). Andun yung mga ine-evaluate na mga buildings and yung statistics nun. Part din yata ng MMEIRS Report yung ginawa nina Dr. Pacheco on building vulnerability study. Also, take a look on the proceedings of the 1st and 2nd Asia Conferenference on Earthquake Engineering, ( which was held here in Manila for two consecutive events), nabanggit din dun yung ginawa nina Dr. Pacheco.

[makulitz]

thanks Ashlars,clawed_out & omeng. ;)
the only problem left is finding a job.hehe

tophe: try to go to UP. there are several research centers in their campus where you can browse their library and ask some engineers there.
pumunta kami before dun sa isang research center for transpo(i forgot the name) nung thesis namin and approachable naman ang mga tao dun. medyo hindi nga lang kami nakahanap ng sufficient data for our research kasi wala silang manuals about our topic (lane rental) kasi ilang states pa lang sa US ang gumagamit nun. ;)

[poetspeak]

CONGRATS TO UE CE Dept!
coz our bets landed 1st, 4th and 10th... dig that

[tophe_17]

faux_ph: I'm not into Earthquake Engineering.


tophe: try to go to UP.

They don't have the data I need.
The only study related to AAR (what I researched so far) is in Mapua - School of Earth and Material Science Engineering.

It's all about the application of ASTM-C295 in aggregates used by Philex Mining in Northern Luzon.

[faux_ph]

faux_ph: I'm not into Earthquake Engineering.



They don't have the data I need.
The only study related to AAR (what I researched so far) is in Mapua - School of Earth and Material Science Engineering.

It's all about the application of ASTM-C295 in aggregates used by Philex Mining in Northern Luzon.

okay, my bad. i thought you were into building vulnerability studies since you mentioned about evaluating damages (structural or non-structural). i have a little experience on this kind of studies but in a more commercial standpoint and not an academic one.

if you're primarily concerned on aggregate behavior, try to search on ACI Materials Journals. I MAY be able to help you since I have SOME access to some ACI journals.*okay*

[tophe_17]

^ Oh ACI... sure sure. That'd be a big help. :)

I was in Makati surveying for some concrete buildings that could be manifesting some cracks but then I thought of starting on instead with those reported by the DPWH as "vulnerable", as was reported in May '06 in the PDI. Usec. Pleyto mentioned of "cracks" found on some buildings (mostly school buildings) in the Metro. That way, it'll be easier to look for one.

Why (then) am I looking for buildings with cracks?

It's actually the starting point of my study... check for a building with cracks. Study such cracks (I need a help from a petrographer for this one). If it matches the description of cracks of an AAR-deteriorated building, we'll get core samples. Then proceed with Petrographic Examination (ASTM-C685), backed by Chemical Test (ASTMc-289).


Okay, I'm gonna say all that I need...

> I need a help from an organization (preferrably DPWH-BRS or DOST) to aid me in this study for this, if proven, could be the very first reported AAR case in the Philippines.

> I also need help from CE organizations in developing research on this subject. I am also required to have this published... otherwise, I won't graduate. :(

> Latest issue as discussed in the recent ICAAR in Beijing 2004. My only hope for this one is Dr. Ian Sims (co-author of Concrete Petrography Handbook).

[tophe_17]

And one more thing...

With regard to core test, any idea of a good testing company?
How much would it cost?
My professor and adviser said, it's really expensive...

And that's another problem - financing the thesis.

[blue_tracer]

faux_ph: I'm not into Earthquake Engineering.



They don't have the data I need.
The only study related to AAR (what I researched so far) is in Mapua - School of Earth and Material Science Engineering.

It's all about the application of ASTM-C295 in aggregates used by Philex Mining in Northern Luzon.

hhmm.. C295. 'ala yata ako kopya niyan ah.

tophe, check your e-mail. meron ako specific digest, assessing the aggressive chem. environment under the main topic of concrete in aggressive ground. yun nga lang, british na digest ito. i dunno kung may makuha ka useful diyan.

also, that alkali-aggregate reaction (aar) is briefly discussed under the topic of diagnosis, prevention and repair of deterioration in concrete.

check it out.

[blue_tracer]

engineer-rocker, faux_ph:

engineer na heavy metal hah.. ha ha ha.. :) this is a nice website. lots of lectures and infos. check it out.

http://www.vulcanhammer.net

[faux_ph]

^ Oh ACI... sure sure. That'd be a big help. :)

I was in Makati surveying for some concrete buildings that could be manifesting some cracks but then I thought of starting on instead with those reported by the DPWH as "vulnerable", as was reported in May '06 in the PDI. Usec. Pleyto mentioned of "cracks" found on some buildings (mostly school buildings) in the Metro. That way, it'll be easier to look for one.

Why (then) am I looking for buildings with cracks?

It's actually the starting point of my study... check for a building with cracks. Study such cracks (I need a help from a petrographer for this one). If it matches the description of cracks of an AAR-deteriorated building, we'll get core samples. Then proceed with Petrographic Examination (ASTM-C685), backed by Chemical Test (ASTMc-289).
That report from PDI, I believe, is just a recycled report. That study was done by the group of Dr. Pacheco (Vibrametrics) as part of the MMEIRS. If you want the details of that report, there's a separate report prepared by Vibrametrics, stating the demography of the structures evaluated. And yes, most of the evaluated were school buildings since these school buildings were envisaged as emergency facilities in the post-disasters operations.





> I need a help from an organization (preferrably DPWH-BRS or DOST) to aid me in this study for this, if proven, could be the very first reported AAR case in the Philippines.
DOST, I believe, grants financial aid for doing research works. Perhaps you can inquire on that to DOST.


> I also need help from CE organizations in developing research on this subject. I am also required to have this published... otherwise, I won't graduate. :( .
The best organization, I think, that would help you in developing research would be the local cement manufacturers ( i.e. Northern Cement Corp, Holcim, etc) if you could convince their R&D ( if any) to assist you. As for the publishing of your manuscripts, get in touch with ASEP and PICE for a new call for technical papers for technical symposiums/conferences so as to accomodate your technical paper.

> Latest issue as discussed in the recent ICAAR in Beijing 2004. My only hope for this one is Dr. Ian Sims (co-author of Concrete Petrography Handbook)..
Sorry, can't help you with this one...


With regard to core test, any idea of a good testing company?
How much would it cost?
My professor and adviser said, it's really expensive...

And that's another problem - financing the thesis.


Experience-wise, Philippine GeoAnalytics is good but they are quite expensive. ASTEC is relatively new player, maybe you should inquire about them. And yes, core testing is quite expensive. If my memory does not fail me, P20K per coring sample.

[faux_ph]

engineer-rocker, faux_ph:

engineer na heavy metal hah.. ha ha ha.. :) this is a nice website. lots of lectures and infos. check it out.

http://www.vulcanhammer.net

pareng blue_tracer, napadaan ka,ah!
baka pwede mo ring ibigay sa akin yung ibinigay mo kay tophe_17, baka may paggagamitan ko nun.:D

tophe_17:
try to search for the SMiRT (Structural Mechanics in Reactor Tecnology)Conference papers, there were good papers that tackles the issue of concrete on aggresive environment and degradation particularly on the Division of Concrete and Concrete Structures.*okay*

[blue_tracer]

pareng blue_tracer, napadaan ka,ah!
baka pwede mo ring ibigay sa akin yung ibinigay mo kay tophe_17, baka may paggagamitan ko nun.:D

tophe_17:
try to search for the SMiRT (Structural Mechanics in Reactor Tecnology)Conference papers, there were good papers that tackles the issue of concrete on aggresive environment and degradation particularly on the Division of Concrete and Concrete Structures.*okay*

oo bah.

ewan ko kung nakatawid yung e-mail kay tophe :)

sa heavy construction, ka di ba?

i have lots of tech. ref. diyan (around 2,000+ pages of infos like manuals, digest, etc. lalu na sa foundations or geotechnics, earth and excavations, complete ref. on steel and concrete bridges, tunnels, submerged tunnels, etc.).. ayaw ko nah.. di na kasya sa utak ko... ha ha ha.. pero di na puwede sa e-mail kc over 1.0 gigabyte na yata aabutin eh.

ah eh.. idaan na lang natin sa maboteng usapan yan... bwa ha ha ha ha... :lol:

sa quezon ave. di ba maraming bote doon.. na may alak sa loob.?

tapos magaganda ang nag-se serve?

send me your e-mail add via pm. i'll forward the info i gave to tophe to you.

[faux_ph]

oo bah.

ewan ko kung nakatawid yung e-mail kay tophe :)

sa heavy construction, ka di ba?

i have lots of tech. ref. diyan (around 2,000+ pages of infos like manuals, digest, etc. lalu na sa foundations or geotechnics, earth and excavations, complete ref. on steel and concrete bridges, tunnels, submerged tunnels, etc.).. ayaw ko nah.. di na kasya sa utak ko... ha ha ha.. pero di na puwede sa e-mail kc over 1.0 gigabyte na yata aabutin eh.

ah eh.. idaan na lang natin sa maboteng usapan yan... bwa ha ha ha ha... :lol:

sa quezon ave. di ba maraming bote doon.. na may alak sa loob.?

tapos magaganda ang nag-se serve?

send me your e-mail add via pm. i'll forward the info i gave to tophe to you.

sa engineering consultancy ako pero nagtrabaho din ako dati sa construction.:)

mahal yung mga lugar na sinasabi mo eh, pang kanto-kanto lang ako.:D

isinend ko na yung email add ko sa yo. unti-untihin mo na lang na isend, 1 gig naman yahoo eh. baka marami akong magamit sa mga tech'l papers a yun.*okay*

[blue_tracer]

sa engineering consultancy ako pero nagtrabaho din ako dati sa construction.:)

mahal yung mga lugar na sinasabi mo eh, pang kanto-kanto lang ako.:D

isinend ko na yung email add ko sa yo. unti-untihin mo na lang na isend, 1 gig naman yahoo eh. baka marami akong magamit sa mga tech'l papers a yun.*okay*

ha ha ha... abah, sa haba ng quezon ave. maraming kanto dun.. :)

yeah. already sent some to your e-mail. ang hirap tandaan ng e-mail mo :)

yung mga 1.5 mb puwede send. pero karamihan sa files, over 20 mb. may 120 mb pa nga. baka makulong ako nito.. ha ha ha..

[faux_ph]

ha ha ha... abah, sa haba ng quezon ave. maraming kanto dun.. :)

yeah. already sent some to your e-mail. ang hirap tandaan ng e-mail mo :)

yung mga 1.5 mb puwede send. pero karamihan sa files, over 20 mb. may 120 mb pa nga. baka makulong ako nito.. ha ha ha..

mahirap sa quezon ave. mahal talaga dun! mas maganda sa may university belt. para makatulong naman tayo kahit papano sa mga "working student".:naughty:

hirap talaga tandaan email add ko no?.:D

mas madali siguro kung ftp site kung pamilyar ka sa ganitong sistema ng file sharing.:hmm:
codes and standards na yata ng opis nyo yung ibinibigay mo eh. di ko tatanggihan yan!:lol:

[tophe_17]

hhmm.. C295. 'ala yata ako kopya niyan ah.

tophe, check your e-mail. meron ako specific digest, assessing the aggressive chem. environment under the main topic of concrete in aggressive ground. yun nga lang, british na digest ito. i dunno kung may makuha ka useful diyan.

also, that alkali-aggregate reaction (aar) is briefly discussed under the topic of diagnosis, prevention and repair of deterioration in concrete.

check it out.

Yeah. Salamat pare!
I've just downloaded it. Read it after. :)

[tophe_17]

i have lots of tech. ref. diyan (around 2,000+ pages of infos like manuals, digest, etc. lalu na sa foundations or geotechnics, earth and excavations, complete ref. on steel and concrete bridges, tunnels, submerged tunnels, etc.).. ayaw ko nah.. di na kasya sa utak ko... ha ha ha.. pero di na puwede sa e-mail kc over 1.0 gigabyte na yata aabutin eh.

Interesting! We've just finished tunnel construction last night.
Pasend din. :D

DOST, I believe, grants financial aid for doing research works. Perhaps you can inquire on that to DOST.

try to search for the SMiRT (Structural Mechanics in Reactor Tecnology)Conference papers, there were good papers that tackles the issue of concrete on aggresive environment and degradation particularly on the Division of Concrete and Concrete Structures.

Nice. I'll contact some people there about this. :) Thanks!
I'll also check out SMIRT. Thanks a lot! :)

Experience-wise, Philippine GeoAnalytics is good but they are quite expensive. ASTEC is relatively new player, maybe you should inquire about them. And yes, core testing is quite expensive. If my memory does not fail me, P20K per coring sample.

Oh my god! :eek: :eek: :eek:

[blue_tracer]

Interesting! We've just finished tunnel construction last night.
Pasend din. :D

already sent. 2 parts yun. ayus, di ba..

[blue_tracer]

mahirap sa quezon ave. mahal talaga dun! mas maganda sa may university belt. para makatulong naman tayo kahit papano sa mga "working student".:naughty:

hirap talaga tandaan email add ko no?.:D

mas madali siguro kung ftp site kung pamilyar ka sa ganitong sistema ng file sharing.:hmm:
codes and standards na yata ng opis nyo yung ibinibigay mo eh. di ko tatanggihan yan!:lol:

working students.. he he he.. kawanggawa. :)

paminsan-minsan gumagamit kami ng ftp. yung binibigay yung site tapos may password.. ha ha ha... baka masesante ako nyan.. :)

ang lalaki na ng mga file. kaya dapat talaga i-save na lang sa u.s.b. tapos doon ko na i-handover sa 'yo sa kung saan maraming working students.. bwa ha ha ha.. :naughty:

mamya, baka mag send ako sa e-mail.

[faux_ph]

working students.. he he he.. kawanggawa. :)

paminsan-minsan gumagamit kami ng ftp. yung binibigay yung site tapos may password.. ha ha ha... baka masesante ako nyan.. :)

ang lalaki na ng mga file. kaya dapat talaga i-save na lang sa u.s.b. tapos doon ko na i-handover sa 'yo sa kung saan maraming working students.. bwa ha ha ha.. :naughty:

mamya, baka mag send ako sa e-mail.
oo nga, kelan ba uwi mo ng 'pinas? Jamming nga tayo minsan, he he he.:) Basta sagot mo ko pag "gumagawa" tayo ng "charity works" sa mga "working students"?:naughty:

[tophe_17]

^ ingat. 'pag "charity" kasi, quality is uncertain. :glee:

already sent. 2 parts yun. ayus, di ba..

Thanks! I'm currently downloading it. Just browsed some of the files and the presentation of my classmate last night wasn't as complete as with the contents of these files are.

Anyway, I'll read everything after the finals. Finals na kasi next week.
Meron akong mababasa this term break (x'mas break). hehe...
Thanks ulit!
:)

[blue_tracer]

oo nga, kelan ba uwi mo ng 'pinas? Jamming nga tayo minsan, he he he.:) Basta sagot mo ko pag "gumagawa" tayo ng "charity works" sa mga "working students"?:naughty:

bahala na kailan.. dami pa ginagawa.. busy pa. naka 3 posts nga lang ako ngayong araw sa pex.. he he he.. :)

ha ha ha.. 'charity works' walang problema.. :naughty:

[faux_ph]

pareng blue_tracer maiba ako, di ba involved ka sa engineering consultancy works din? matanong lang sana kita kung ano yung areas of expertise mo? kasi yung mga pinadala mo sa akin na tech'l papers more on geotechnical engineering eh. not that ayoko yun, gusto ko nga ang mga yun kasi medyo pinalalawak ko yung skills ko by involving myself to geotechnical engineering aspects of some projects that I've done.

[blue_tracer]

pareng blue_tracer maiba ako, di ba involved ka sa engineering consultancy works din? matanong lang sana kita kung ano yung areas of expertise mo? kasi yung mga pinadala mo sa akin na tech'l papers more on geotechnical engineering eh. not that ayoko yun, gusto ko nga ang mga yun kasi medyo pinalalawak ko yung skills ko by involving myself to geotechnical engineering aspects of some projects that I've done.

area of expertise.. nakup.. sa 'cabinet making' lang ako :) he he he..

multi-discipline company napasukan ko. hindi ako sa 'heavy' construction. yun nga lang may access ako sa info nila (geotechnics). mas madami akong steel design ref. di ko lang ma-send kc naka british standards. medyo iba ng kaunti ang british sa american standards (aci, aisc, etc.)..dami na files. nagtapon na nga ako ng files last month.

sa consultancy, dapat may m.s. eh.. mga office mates ko (chinese, australian, british, etc) halus lahat may m.s. sayang, wala akong m.s. degree. minsan kinakapos ako. lalu na, lately, may bagong trend na parating (hkg). yung non-linear analysis (well, this is not new pero bihira pa) at tsaka 'second order' analysis. yan, sa m.s. lang yan pinag-uusapan.

[omeng]

ayus, dumadami ang post but not the CE.. he he

oi, galingan niyo, para pag nasa mga building development na ko, hire ko kayo ha.. 30 years from now. ha ha :D

[blue_tracer]

ayus, dumadami ang post but not the CE.. he he

oi, galingan niyo, para pag nasa mga building development na ko, hire ko kayo ha.. 30 years from now. ha ha :D

capt. omeng, kasi why give up your flying..? hirap sa engineering.. di ba mas masaya sa flying..? halus lahat pangarap yan. maging pilot.

[faux_ph]

area of expertise.. nakup.. sa 'cabinet making' lang ako :) he he he..

multi-discipline company napasukan ko. hindi ako sa 'heavy' construction. yun nga lang may access ako sa info nila (geotechnics). mas madami akong steel design ref. di ko lang ma-send kc naka british standards. medyo iba ng kaunti ang british sa american standards (aci, aisc, etc.)..dami na files. nagtapon na nga ako ng files last month.

sa consultancy, dapat may m.s. eh.. mga office mates ko (chinese, australian, british, etc) halus lahat may m.s. sayang, wala akong m.s. degree. minsan kinakapos ako. lalu na, lately, may bagong trend na parating (hkg). yung non-linear analysis (well, this is not new pero bihira pa) at tsaka 'second order' analysis. yan, sa m.s. lang yan pinag-uusapan.

british standards (BSI) kasi nakabase ang HK standards eh. Itapon mo sa akin ang mga yan baka meron ka na wala ako. :) Gumagamit din kasi kami paminsan-minsan ng BSI tsaka Eurocode (EC) kung nakakakuha ng project somewhere in Europe. Kahit papano may konting experience sa BSI at EC.;)
well, not necessarily na pre-requisite yung may masteral ka para maintindihan naman yung sinasabi nilang "non-linear analysis(NLA)" tsaka "second-order analysis" ( parang ako, he he he:D ). basta basa lang ng related literature at. kahit dito sa pinas, there's a growing interest sa NLA (btw, second-order analysis = P-delta analysis) as part of performance-based design approach. Medyo pinipilit nila akong matuto kasi yung demand ng ganung skill ay very cost-effective lalo na sa client's point of view.*okay*

[faux_ph]

ayus, dumadami ang post but not the CE.. he he

oi, galingan niyo, para pag nasa mga building development na ko, hire ko kayo ha.. 30 years from now. ha ha :D
andito lang ako sa 'pinas pakalat-kalat, pag kelangan mo ng "pirma", he he he:D

[blue_tracer]

^^ yeah, you're right. lalu na sa all-tensile cables, non-linear na yan.. hhmm.. dami yatang peke na sap2000 (non-linear version) software diyan sa atin. puwede magamit sa non-linear.. :naughty:

ang mabigat diyan kung involved na yung mga time spectra, viscous dampers, etc. yan di ko pa gets yan masyado.. parang tinatamad pa utak ko para pag-aralan pa mga yan.

second order (p-delta), actually, matagal na nilang subject yan sa hk univ. of science and tech. at tsaka sa hk polytechnic. halus isang dekada na yata nila subject yan sa eng. courses nila. nag develop pa nga ilang professors nila ng software diyan..

eurocodes (ec)..? hindi pa ako nag-aaral niyan. pero nakikita ko na mga publications. hindi pa fully implemented. bs-5950 pa rin sila sa steel. i bought a steel manual (aisc) para lang ma-refresh ako sa american standards dahil halus limot ko na. hirap ako maghanap niya sa pinas, yun pala marami ang 'copy' version doon sa taiwan. doon ako nagpabili ng lumang edition (9th).. mga 1,200 php yata.

[faux_ph]

^^ yeah, you're right. lalu na sa all-tensile cables, non-linear na yan.. hhmm.. dami yatang peke na sap2000 (non-linear version) software diyan sa atin. puwede magamit sa non-linear.. :naughty:

ang mabigat diyan kung involved na yung mga time spectra, viscous dampers, etc. yan di ko pa gets yan masyado.. parang tinatamad pa utak ko para pag-aralan pa mga yan.

second order (p-delta), actually, matagal na nilang subject yan sa hk univ. of science and tech. at tsaka sa hk polytechnic. halus isang dekada na yata nila subject yan sa eng. courses nila. nag develop pa nga ilang professors nila ng software diyan..

eurocodes (ec)..? hindi pa ako nag-aaral niyan. pero nakikita ko na mga publications. hindi pa fully implemented. bs-5950 pa rin sila sa steel. i bought a steel manual (aisc) para lang ma-refresh ako sa american standards dahil halus limot ko na. hirap ako maghanap niya sa pinas, yun pala marami ang 'copy' version doon sa taiwan. doon ako nagpabili ng lumang edition (9th).. mga 1,200 php yata.

ano'ng AISC yan? LRFD?

[blue_tracer]

ano'ng AISC yan? LRFD?

yung dark green.. working stress design pa rin yan (9th edition 1989).. yung 10th edition, yun na yata ang load resistance factor design (lrfd).. 'limit state' naman tawag nila dito.. nag lfrd na ba ang pinas..?

[faux_ph]

yung dark green.. working stress design pa rin yan (9th edition 1989).. yung 10th edition, yun na yata ang load resistance factor design (lrfd).. 'limit state' naman tawag nila dito.. nag lfrd na ba ang pinas..?
sa mga buildings and vertical structures, na-introduced na sa NSCP ang LRFD (load resistance factored design)pero hesitant pa rin ang mga building owners and engineers na yun ang gamiting approach although meron na mangilan-ilan akong na-involve na gumamit na nun, mostly sa mga seismic retrofit pa. Sa bridges, most likely next year phased-out na yung ASD sa steel section ng code at fully LRFD na kasi matagal nang na-introduce sa bridge design code yung LFD ( load-factored design = intermediate sya ng ASD at LRFD) at balita ko bago na yung bridge code next year.
yung ASD na AISC na sinasabi mo actually ay kalat na sa mga major bookstores kasi may nakakuha na local publisher ng printing rights. Last time I checked, P700 yata ang price:)
gusto ko sana bumili ng kopya ko ng AISC LRFD (kulay silver)kaso ala locally available. Mahal kasi ng isang set ( 3 volumes yata yun) pag i-oorder pa from states.

[tophe_17]

yung dark green.. working stress design pa rin yan (9th edition 1989).. yung 10th edition, yun na yata ang load resistance factor design (lrfd).. 'limit state' naman tawag nila dito.. nag lfrd na ba ang pinas..?


Sa Academe we're still using AISC-ASD. Hirap hanapin ng dark green na libro na yan ah?! hehe... Even the publisher (Cardinals) no longer re-prints it. :confused: Dunno why... probably they're gonna release a new edition.


british standards (BSI) kasi nakabase ang HK standards eh. Itapon mo sa akin ang mga yan baka meron ka na wala ako. :) Gumagamit din kasi kami paminsan-minsan ng BSI tsaka Eurocode (EC) kung nakakakuha ng project somewhere in Europe. Kahit papano may konting experience sa BSI at EC.;)
well, not necessarily na pre-requisite yung may masteral ka para maintindihan naman yung sinasabi nilang "non-linear analysis(NLA)" tsaka "second-order analysis" ( parang ako, he he he:D ). basta basa lang ng related literature at. kahit dito sa pinas, there's a growing interest sa NLA (btw, second-order analysis = P-delta analysis) as part of performance-based design approach. Medyo pinipilit nila akong matuto kasi yung demand ng ganung skill ay very cost-effective lalo na sa client's point of view.*okay*


Sa MSSE siguro yan. Wala kasi sa MS Construction Eng'g yung "p-delta analysis" and "NLA"... puro managerial principles. :lol:

LRFD? I think I ran across a book about it in the library. Gonna check that out.
In our correlation course, our professor classified Steel design into two - Allowable Stress Design and Plastic Design. But for that course, we focused on ASD. LRFD... we didn't focus on that.

[blue_tracer]

faux_ph:

so, meron na rin pala lfrd diyan. maganda yan.. dito patapos na ang transition period nila sa pag phase out ng working stress.. almost 90% ng mga submissions nila sa 'buildings department' puro limit state na.

ang hirap hanapin ng manual na yan aisc-wsd dati. gumwardwet ako ng wala niyan.. he he he.. i-ilang pages lang na mga photo copied pa. importante. pagwala niyan, sus, panu mo matatapos ginagawa mong steel..?

i have seen that silver-colored lrfd manual already. makapal. sus, magkano kaya yan. ka-mahal siguro. wala bang xerox sa recto..? :naughty:

[blue_tracer]

Sa Academe we're still using AISC-ASD. Hirap hanapin ng dark green na libro na yan ah?! hehe... Even the publisher (Cardinals) no longer re-prints it. :confused: Dunno why... probably they're gonna release a new edition.

Sa MSSE siguro yan. Wala kasi sa MS Construction Eng'g yung "p-delta analysis" and "NLA"... puro managerial principles. :lol:

LRFD? I think I ran across a book about it in the library. Gonna check that out.
In our correlation course, our professor classified Steel design into two - Allowable Stress Design and Plastic Design. But for that course, we focused
on ASD. LRFD... we didn't focus on that.

wala nang re-print.. tsk tsk.

siguro, sa m.s. lang ng structural eng. diyan sa pinas tinuturo ang n.l.a. at 2nd order analysis.

ok lang yan. laganap pa rin naman ang working stress sa pinas.

yan hirap sa eng. ang daming libro! di ba, may ubc (uniform blgd. code) sa u.s. ? mayroon na ring ibc (international blgd. code).. sus ginoo!

good luck sa final exams, dude!

[omeng]

capt. omeng, kasi why give up your flying..? hirap sa engineering.. di ba mas masaya sa flying..? halus lahat pangarap yan. maging pilot.

Hehe ex-capt frustrated kamo. :lol:

Well maybe, 40 years from now, i will have my gulfstream. :D


andito lang ako sa 'pinas pakalat-kalat, pag kelangan mo ng "pirma", he he he :D

Ayus yan. Pero alam mo naman sa city hall, nagkalat din sila. :rotflmao:

[faux_ph]

^^pag medyo maliit na projects, okay lang ang mga yun sa city hall pero pag medyo malaking projects na, nagde-demand na yung mga clients ng technical capabilities na wala sa mga uma-aligid sa city hall.;)

[faux_ph]

faux_ph:

so, meron na rin pala lfrd diyan. maganda yan.. dito patapos na ang transition period nila sa pag phase out ng working stress.. almost 90% ng mga submissions nila sa 'buildings department' puro limit state na.

ang hirap hanapin ng manual na yan aisc-wsd dati. gumwardwet ako ng wala niyan.. he he he.. i-ilang pages lang na mga photo copied pa. importante. pagwala niyan, sus, panu mo matatapos ginagawa mong steel..?

i have seen that silver-colored lrfd manual already. makapal. sus, magkano kaya yan. ka-mahal siguro. wala bang xerox sa recto..? :naughty:
i doubt kung meron na "recto university" bookstores.:hmm: 3 volumes kasi yun eh (Spec's, Steel Member Design, Connection Design) na hiwa-hiwalay. Dalawang makapal (Steel Member Design, Connection Design) na kasing kapal ng ASD Manual tapos yung specs ay 1/2 ng kapal ng ASD Manual.:(

[omeng]

^^pag medyo maliit na projects, okay lang ang mga yun sa city hall pero pag medyo malaking projects na, nagde-demand na yung mga clients ng technical capabilities na wala sa mga uma-aligid sa city hall.;)

sabagay. yaan mo, what is three decades? :D

[tophe_17]

^^pag medyo maliit na projects, okay lang ang mga yun sa city hall pero pag medyo malaking projects na, nagde-demand na yung mga clients ng technical capabilities na wala sa mga uma-aligid sa city hall.;)

Agree. One of my classmates works in an international company. They engage in road construction as well as irrigation projects and they no longer talk with city hall people.
Diretso kaagad sa 'taas'. :)

[faux_ph]

^^not to mention that there's a code of practice that is already enforced wherein a peer review is required for the design of structures exceeding the minimum requirements as stated in PICE-approved Guidance in Peer Review. (Not sure yung exact requirements, di ko mahanap yung booklet na kopya ko nito:( )*okay*

[tophe_17]

Guys, member kayo ng ASCE?


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[tophe_17]

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On ASEP website, I wonder why they don't 'clean' their forum there. It's really disgusting.

[faux_ph]

^^walang pondo para makagawa ng maayos-ayos na website.

[tophe_17]

^ So they better disable the forum then.

[stepehenyan@12]

since civil engineer is all about construction. buhay pa ba yung construction firm na AG&P during the 80's they use to get involve in constructing high rise bldg. what happened to that company are they still alive.

[faux_ph]

since civil engineer is all about construction. buhay pa ba yung construction firm na AG&P during the 80's they use to get involve in constructing high rise bldg. what happened to that company are they still alive.

AG&P's construction business is dead. Last time I heard, naging manpower sourcing sila.

[stepehenyan@12]

kailan pa?! dati kasi nung 80's lakas nila sa construction.

[edmonton]

AG&P's construction business is dead. Last time I heard, naging manpower sourcing sila.

How about EEI?:bop:

[faux_ph]

kailan pa?! dati kasi nung 80's lakas nila sa construction.
Mid-80's and early 90's is the golden era of AG&P and many other construction firms. When Asian crisis hit us, most of them folded evident during the late 90's the discontinued high-rise buildings on the Metro Manila skyline.

[faux_ph]

How about EEI?:bop:
I think they are doing fine. Dami nila on-going projects kasi we are experiencing another boom in the construction industry due to office space constraint brought by the booming outsourcing industry ( i.e. call centers, etc). Kahit naman ala silang local projects, may overseas naman sila, mostly sa mid-east.

[mac_bolan00]

faux,

if i was to ask you to start a mega-project with an open budget, what would you start? here are the assumptions:

1. it will be a private undetaking. unlimited budget.
2. time to finish, within 10 years
3. usage - multi-purpose (resd'l, offci, etc) ---or nothing; just monumental.
4. land area at your disposal, > 50 hectares. the land is stable enough to support any structure yu can think of
5. your client (me) wants to both shock and astound the world for the next 2,000 years.

[tophe_17]

You've provided a very ideal situation - perfect to be exact.

The project will be a Complex of "Complexes".
And I call it... "The Labyrinthian"

Composed of:

> Sports Complex composed of 5 concrete buildings (these will house the participants of any sporting event the complex will host and each having a height of 100m) spanning near the perimeter of a stadium with the most modern stadium design (similar with the one proposed to be the *design to house the Opening of the Beijing 2008 Games... but failed) situated at the right side of a complex of

> A 330m-high (77-storey) oval-shaped office building at the center of
> A series of 7 buildings (steel-framed), each with a height of 200 meters (50-storey) forming a circular path. These buildings will function as residential buildings that will accomodate those working in the commercial building adjacent to these structures.

^ That one is the Business Complex.

> At the left side of this business complex is the Commercial Complex composed mainly of a 4-storey C-shaped mall - double the land area occupied by SM Mall of Asia - with its opening facing the business complex. The mall can accomodate nearly a thousand establishments, 17 cinemas and 7 IMAX theaters.


* this is the perspective (the one I mentioned above) of the proposed design (that didn't win) to house the Beijing 2008 Opening/Closing Ceremonies (courtesy of SkyScraperCity site):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/Proposal12x1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/cityq/Projects%20and%20developments/Proposal12x2.jpg

[mac_bolan00]

nice massing. is that a blimp hovering above the stadium or a UFO?

for a single structure, i was thinking of a confluentia: something that can gather 100,000 or so people, comfortably, safely, for any reason. it can be a sports spectacle gathering (like the colliseum), or politcal rally/marching area (ala nuremberg), or a universal church (like the hopton stoddard temple in "the fountainhead").

so a combination sports facility, rally center, church, field activity center is what i was thinking of. what structure would this look like? the closest i could think of is the beijing forbidden city complex ---but in a far bigger scale.

[tophe_17]

mac:

nice massing. is that a blimp hovering above the stadium or a UFO?

It's a floating structure. Helium's behind the floating, and cables bring it to equilibrium so as to remain steady in the air.
When it's brought down, it will form a covered stadium.

[faux_ph]

tophe17, the Bird's Nest Concept won for the Beijing Stadium that will be used for the BEijing Olympics. Our British colleagues did the engineering design.

mac:
my ideal project that suits your description is a privately funded tollway system that connects Luzon to Mindanao. It's a series of megabridges and megatunnels that carries not only the transport utilities such as railways and vehicular transport system but other infrastructure utilities such as communication network, power and water networks. That project would make a killing not just for the toll fees but also for the rent on the usage of the infrastructure by utility companies.

[mac_bolan00]

but a single (two-way) line is too vulnerable to an accident or even just a stall. better make it a token ring. :D

[stepehenyan@12]

di ba ganyan yung mga mega bridges sa miami connecting sa key largo. so mangyayari magrereclaim ka ng land sa dagat para maitayo mo yung foundation at poste para maitayo ang yung megabridges that would connect to mindanao parang san juanico bridge?! ganon ba?>>>>faux_ph

[faux_ph]

but a single (two-way) line is too vulnerable to an accident or even just a stall. better make it a token ring. :D
most tollways are designed as multiple lane even for unidirectional traffic flow so it's not really much of a problem.*okay*

[faux_ph]

di ba ganyan yung mga mega bridges sa miami connecting sa key largo. so mangyayari magrereclaim ka ng land sa dagat para maitayo mo yung foundation at poste para maitayo ang yung megabridges that would connect to mindanao parang san juanico bridge?! ganon ba?>>>>faux_ph
no need to reclaim land if you want to build the foundation. there are several ways to build a foundation for offshore. One method is by using a floating caisson to be sunk later as its foundation. Another is to use a floating platform as its formwork while being poured on site by special type of concrete that is waterproof and does not need external application of vibration for compaction (self-consolidating concrete or SCC's)*okay*

[mac_bolan00]

a sea train. no longer a civil engineering topic. a powerful tug boat that can tow several closed barges (whether cargo or passenger).

lots of marine engineering isuues there, i think. when traversing a wave front, the whole thing will look like an undulating sea serpent. if the waves hit the train from the side, it'll look like a vibratring guitar string.

and if one compartment sinks, it might pull the others with it. :lol:

[faux_ph]

^^designing the structural integrity of the boats are actually still part of civil engineering. There are concrete cargo ships (pulled by tugboats)used to transport grains. But the idea of train of ships would be a maritime safety & navigation nightmare.:eek:
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capt. omeng, nawala na kami sa topic:D

[omeng]

No problemo, amigo. Healty naman at Basta walang bashing.. he he. Yung ngang isang thread sa kabila na "All about construction" nilalangaw...

I just heard today from a reliable source that EEI are looking for more sub-contractors on civil works since parang mga kabute ang projects nila. I am still thinking and planning kahit siguro pa-tiles-tiles lang sa mga T&B of every Room. Progress billing everyweek but the thing is, higpit ng Quality Control nila. Me pangkape lang sana sa umaga at syempre additional pogi points of my litol construction company profile.

What do you think, guys?

[faux_ph]

No problemo, amigo. Healty naman at Basta walang bashing.. he he. Yung ngang isang thread sa kabila na "All about construction" nilalangaw...

I just heard today from a reliable source that EEI are looking for more sub-contractors on civil works since parang mga kabute ang projects nila. I am still thinking and planning kahit siguro pa-tiles-tiles lang sa mga T&B of every Room. Progress billing everyweek but the thing is, higpit ng Quality Control nila. Me pangkape lang sana sa umaga at syempre additional pogi points of my litol construction company profile.

What do you think, guys?
EEI strict sa quality control?!:eek: Palpak nga sila sa isang project na currently on-going! Puro ampaw yung mga poste kaya di makapag-proceed. Di pa natatapos yung building may retrofit na kaagad!:angry:

[tophe_17]

I've searched for a building in service that shows AAR manifestations. This is what I've seen so far (at the architrave and above it). It's just that not too visible to see clearly the cracks.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/tophe_17/tophe1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/tophe_17/tophe2.jpg

Any comments?
That's taken in St. Peter's Parish, Commonwealth Avenue, Quezon City
Of course everything remains to be speculations until tested.

I just noticed the cracks on the surface with those white elements that seemed to me to be dried, swelled silica gel. Weathering elements must have turned it from colorless property to white. The building was built in 1993.

Experience-wise, Philippine GeoAnalytics is good but they are quite expensive. ASTEC is relatively new player, maybe you should inquire about them. And yes, core testing is quite expensive. If my memory does not fail me, P20K per coring sample.

It depends on the size of the concrete core, doesn't it?

[tophe_17]

I just need a single concrete core sample with a diameter of 6 in. and a height of 12 in.

Does that cost 20k already?

[faux_ph]

I just need a single concrete core sample with a diameter of 6 in. and a height of 12 in.

Does that cost 20k already?

It depends on the size of the concrete core, doesn't it?

6" x 12" seems to me is the size for compression test which usually costs around PhP 200 way back in 2005. Sample for coring test usually are 2" x 6". And no, the price is not dependent on size but rather on type of test and the quantity. Try mo magpa-test sa MIRDC ( nakalimutan ko meaning ng acronym but it has to do with materials industry research and development). It's a government company under BRS (Bureau of Research and Standards). Mura lang dun. Problema mo lang yung extraction ng coring sample. Btw, may procedure in extracting sample for type of testing. Refer to relevant ASTM procedures.*okay*

[tophe_17]

^ Well, regarding laboratory procedures, I'm gonna do it on MIT-EMSE lab.

No, I was referring to the extraction cost not the test - and I'm not gonna do compressive strength test, but a petrographic examination.

[tophe_17]

Guys, have you tried going to International Conference of ASCE and ACI? Share naman your experiences. :)

They have International Conference on Forensic Engineering this December in Mumbai, India, sponsored by ACI-India Chapter. :)

[faux_ph]

Not ASCE or ACI sponsored but organized by ASEP in partnership with other orgs. Next week, March 15-17,2007 is 12th ASEP International Convention to be held in Manila Pavilion Hotel. One of the topics is structural diagnosis. Try to attend that one. Hope to see you there.

[tophe_17]

^ Info please...

How much? Are non-members, e.g. students, allowed to join?

:)

[tophe_17]

These ones are also interesting:

http://www.icaci.com/Forens5.jpg


http://www.icaci.com/Forens7.jpg


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http://www.icaci.com/Sustai1.jpg

http://www.icaci.com/Sustai3.jpg

[faux_ph]

^ Info please...

How much? Are non-members, e.g. students, allowed to join?

:)

Students are encouraged to join. P2500 is the registration fee for student ( w/ food; P2000 w/o food) Special discount for group registration. Contact the ASEP secretariat for more info about the discount.
:)

[tophe_17]

I received the Programme and the fees are not indicated there. Thanks for the info. :)

[tophe_17]

Hello guys.

Any idea of how can we quantify durability of concrete with regard to its service life?

[tophe_17]

Hello guys.

Any idea of how can we quantify durability of concrete with regard to its service life?

:rolleyes:
My input was quite broad. I wasn't able to put in some factors that affect service life (SL):

1. Performance requirements
2. Environmental conditions
3. Deterioration mechanisms
4. Prediction methods


I am quite confused as to how SL would be quantified considering these parameters.

Any inputs?

[faux_ph]

^^Still very broad. Even for just one of the parameters mentioned is already a complex issue. You have to set a specific boundary condition for your question.

[tophe_17]

Yeah, it was broad. :D

Based on literature survey, permeability is one of the parameters where durability of concrete can be quantified.
Experimental method of determining such property includes the use of RCPT or the Rapid Chloride Ion Penetration Test. Only that we do not have such equipment here to do it. :( Only hope is the DOST-ITDI.

[faux_ph]

kelan yung date ng board exam ng May 2007?

[tophe_17]

Last Wednesday (May 9) and yesterday (May 10). Tapos na. Hehe... :)

[faux_ph]

para mabuhay naman ang thread na 'to....

sustainability is a hot topic nowadays. sustainability in civil engineering comes in different forms such as use of recycled materials, structures designed for flexible occupancy, energy-efficient construction methodologies,etc.

is the concept of sustainability already introduced in the civil engineering curriculum?