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AltarBoy^_^
May 20, 2006, 03:21 PM
A lot has changed since Studio 23 brought the NCAA to their fold. Some of the issues we talked about here in PEX were answered and some are still waiting for answers. And to tell you honestly, I'm nervous for my alma mater, CSB since this is the first time that they are hosting the oldest collegiate league in the nation. Every year, we expect a better coverage, management committee, venue, and more importantly, better players to join our fold and not just jump to the more commercialized UAAP. Let's gaze a little at our crystal ball and see what the future lies for this league.

The appointment of Jun Bernardino is a testament to the league's goal of improving management for the league. And we can all thank Studio 23 for helping us achieve other dreams like a showdown with the UAAP selection teams and of course, the Nestle Non-Stop Cheerdancing Competition.

And like our discussions in the past, we will try to formulate ideas on how to improve our beloved NCAA. On how we can contribute to better understanding between schools and attract more viewers.

I hope that one day we will have a unified collegiate league for the entire archipelago. FMC and the Champions Cup are just one of the start-up leagues in gauging the strengths of each champion school of every league mentionable. So it's not gonna hurt if we FANTASIZE, soon we will REALIZE what the NCAA can achieved. We all have our school pride, and its time we develop our pride for our own league by helping it grow stronger.

May we all be One and True at 82!

LONG LIVE THE NCAA!!!

c0okie_m0nster
May 20, 2006, 04:57 PM
^question is will CSB students show enough support for their team this season? because this past season even if their team is doing good there is no support coming from the student even in special events such as opnening, cheerdance competition etc... school administration of CSB as a host school this season must do something bout this. its been a dillema not only to the school(CSB) but the NCAA itself. as an NCAA member school they should do they're part to encourage their student to watch games. first things first. fix the present before thinking the future.

ungga
May 20, 2006, 05:58 PM
i agree cookie monster!!! pero fantasy nga lang eh kaya hayaan mo na siyang magpantasya, hehehe.... tska meron namang konti na nanonoood ng games yung mga kaibigan at kamag-anak siguro nung mga players...
joke lang!

Colegio de San Juan de Letran
151 Muralla St. cor. Anda Intramuros, Manila
1620

AltarBoy^_^
May 22, 2006, 12:03 PM
^question is will CSB students show enough support for their team this season? because this past season even if their team is doing good there is no support coming from the student even in special events such as opnening, cheerdance competition etc... school administration of CSB as a host school this season must do something bout this. its been a dillema not only to the school(CSB) but the NCAA itself. as an NCAA member school they should do they're part to encourage their student to watch games. first things first. fix the present before thinking the future.

I understand your concern for Benildean support but CSB is a young institution and a young member of the oldest league. Alumni support is not as strong as DLSU or the other older leagues like SBC or Letran but we will get there. You can't force everyone in school to watch. ;)

Hindi pa nga tayo nakakagawa ng basketball dynasty sa liga so don't blame the school for the lack of support, I know they are doing their best to provide quality athletes and it bore fruit through our first NCAA General Championship last season. For me, that is a sincere sign of this school to be a great institution for higher learning and sports. Long-term yan so pag naririnig na tayong nananalo eh darating din ang suporta. Ganyan din nangyari nuon after natin makuha ang crown nung 2000. Dumami talaga ang nanunuod sa RMC pero kumonti nung natatalo na. Babalik din yan at magiging matatag pa. Hindi araw-araw eh pasko. :D

I hear that there are great additions to the Blazers this season, mga fil-foreigners na na-meet na ang residency requirements and I guess we will have to make do with what we have right now. And the CSB Pep Squad is in a rebuilding process in preparation for the opening and the competition. The best thing we can do is rally enough alumni to watch the games, kaso most of us are busy working our @sses of in Makati, call centers, abroad and wherever. Last year, I went to the game with an alumni pep member and we watched with glee sa Cuneta kaso natalo pa rin but its ok. Naniniwala pa rin karamihan na babalik ang korona satin but we're digressing na. Our topic here is how to achieve better coverage, numbers in the audience (lahat po, hindi lang sa benilde), quality coaches & players, venue, updating rules or modifying existing ones, and to FANTASIZE. :D

AltarBoy^_^
May 24, 2006, 03:19 PM
So how can we attract more sponsors? roadwarrior just gave us a clue with what he said in the Jun Bernardino thread. How can we get better coverage if we can't bring in the sponsors that can provide sufficient funds?

ill_behaviour
May 24, 2006, 05:00 PM
So how can we attract more sponsors? roadwarrior just gave us a clue with what he said in the Jun Bernardino thread. How can we get better coverage if we can't bring in the sponsors that can provide sufficient funds?

first the respective schools should muster alumni support during the games especially those that are distinguished. If they would be in attendance during games,serves as marketing appeal that would eventually attract sponsors for the league.Rise in actual attendance would go parallel with alumni tv viewership in the household. Ad placements should soon follow.

Clarkent
May 24, 2006, 08:57 PM
* sana i-adjust ang sked, instead of 1400H to 1800H, gawin na lang 1500H to 1700H, so that makaabot sa venue yung ibang alumni who will be coming from work.. or how about gabi na lang, but, i doubt papayag ang ABS-CBN/Studio23 na ilagay sa primetime ang isang basketball game..

alvin_cabal2000
May 25, 2006, 04:01 AM
^question is will CSB students show enough support for their team this season? because this past season even if their team is doing good there is no support coming from the student even in special events such as opnening, cheerdance competition etc... school administration of CSB as a host school this season must do something bout this. its been a dillema not only to the school(CSB) but the NCAA itself. as an NCAA member school they should do they're part to encourage their student to watch games. first things first. fix the present before thinking the future.

Benildeans have not appetite for the NCAA. Period.

Too crappy and pedestrian for their taste. I don't blame them, really.

alvin_cabal2000
May 25, 2006, 04:04 AM
first the respective schools should muster alumni support during the games especially those that are distinguished. If they would be in attendance during games,serves as marketing appeal that would eventually attract sponsors for the league.Rise in actual attendance would go parallel with alumni tv viewership in the household. Ad placements should soon follow.


Why should Benideans watch a crappy NCAA game when they have the Ateneo-La Salle games in the UAAP.

Benildeans are also proud of their school. It's just that the NCAA is not their taste. Why rub elbows with most of the hohum schools.....

AltarBoy^_^
May 25, 2006, 12:24 PM
Alvincabal, you can't speak for everyone in CSB when you say that! Of course we watch games and they are not hohum schools. Flamebaiting ka na pare! :glee:

And this season, walang Ateneo-Lasalle games na mangyayari, unless mahilig sila manuod ng Flying V Homegrown Cup at Golf Classic eh mahirap naman ma-conclude na dun lang sila nanunuod. :lol:

ill_behaviour - I agree, alumni support must be established. I really don't know what the Alumni Association in school has been doing for the past 4 years but the last time that I was still performing for the Pep Squad, they were the ones who contributed drums and equipment for the drummers. If only there was an active alumni association officer in this forum then maybe, just maybe we can shed light on this matter with regards to alumni support. Or maybe they are focused on other varsity players to support them. And distinguished alumni must step up to rally graduates and attract contacts/sponsors.

Clarkent - maybe it can happen but what about Studio 23's sked after the games? Primetime viewership is important for them and they can't risk it for the sake of satisfying a small number of viewers for the NCAA. Do we have the numbers to satisfy sponsorship for the coverage? WE MUST INCREASE OUR NUMBERS. I'm also depending on Mapuans to help create noise in Makati when they watch games in malls and restaurants since they are in the thick of the commercial business district. ;)

The NCAA MANCOM should create a marketing committee to bring in Studio 23's coverage to different establishments. If the NBA, PBA, and UAAP (Lasalle-Ateneo) games are shown in establishments like Tequila Joes or National Sports Grill, why not show the NCAA too? That can happen if alumni or students can frequent that place and show them that WE EXIST to cheer for the games. :D

nash_bedista
May 26, 2006, 01:56 PM
sir altar-boy,

sa tingin ko po, many student,supporters,alumni will watch CSB games,
malaking factor dun as you said, winning the GENERAL CHAMP...
and of course the suspension of DLSU this year sa UAAP....

Malapit na rin yung coliseum, so ok yun for the CSB Students....

I also felt yung Cheedance Competition... wala supporters and CSB ***** meon kaso d gaanun kadami... We bedans support na *** and cheer and CSB para magkaroon ng confidence pagdating sa gitna....

Clarkent
May 26, 2006, 02:54 PM
^parang ang kawawa naman ng CSB.. i-checheer pa ng bedans para lang magkaroon ng confidence.

ill_behaviour
May 26, 2006, 03:43 PM
^parang ang kawawa naman ng CSB.. i-checheer pa ng bedans para lang magkaroon ng confidence.

I can see nothing wrong with that, is this kind of support new to you, by the way your school enlisted a red cub to reinforce your team Cardinals this season, how about that!

J.B.
May 27, 2006, 12:29 AM
^yup...swerte niyo...si TG Guillermo

alvin_cabal2000
May 27, 2006, 07:26 AM
^parang ang kawawa naman ng CSB.. i-checheer pa ng bedans para lang magkaroon ng confidence.


I believe that Bedans' affinity with Benilde has somtheing to do with historical circumstance that once during the old NCAA San Beda and La Salle were the sworn enemies of haughty Ateneo.

I guess some of this godwill between the two schoolsl are still around. I don't know.

An Mapua enlisted a Bedan in its roster. Yeah, a Bedan.....:rotflmao:

alvin_cabal2000
May 27, 2006, 07:31 AM
i agree cookie monster!!! pero fantasy nga lang eh kaya hayaan mo na siyang magpantasya, hehehe.... tska meron namang konti na nanonoood ng games yung mga kaibigan at kamag-anak siguro nung mga players...
joke lang!

Colegio de San Juan de Letran
151 Muralla St. cor. Anda Intramuros, Manila
1620

Errrr.... Altar Boy I think it's not me you are referring to..:naughty:

jancarlo
May 27, 2006, 11:58 AM
I believe that Bedans' affinity with Benilde has somtheing to do with historical circumstance that once during the old NCAA San Beda and La Salle were the sworn enemies of haughty Ateneo.

I guess some of this godwill between the two schoolsl are still around. I don't know.

An Mapua enlisted a Bedan in its roster. Yeah, a Bedan.....:rotflmao:

Mapua will have I think 3 or 4 Blue Eaglets in their roster this year too. :)

AltarBoy^_^
May 27, 2006, 04:43 PM
Errrr.... Altar Boy I think it's not me you are referring to..:naughty:

Forgive me but when I see remarks similar to yours (and maybe ungga's) it kinda reminds me that we should stay on-topic again dahil ayoko maging flame thread ito. :glee:

nash-bedista - Salamat sa support ng Bedans last season sa Cheerdance competition. Mahirap talaga mag-hatak ng crowd dahil hindi naman obligated ang students. Pero sana this year they could drum up support from students to watch the competition para hindi na kami mag-rely sa inyo. :D

As for the rest of the schools, nakaka-inggit talaga ang support na pinapakita ng students and alumni niyo. Hopefully, CSB can bring in the numbers this season dahil host kami. ;)

So may official line-up na ba ang respective teams niyo? Less than a month na lang eh opening na! :up:

Clarkent
May 27, 2006, 10:17 PM
I believe that Bedans' affinity with Benilde has somtheing to do with historical circumstance that once during the old NCAA San Beda and La Salle were the sworn enemies of haughty Ateneo.

I guess some of this godwill between the two schoolsl are still around. I don't know.

An Mapua enlisted a Bedan in its roster. Yeah, a Bedan.....:rotflmao:

So its the Ateneo-La Salle rivarly that bonds DLSU-Saint Benilde and Sn.Beda

Wow.. I'm excited to see other LaSalistas from DLSU-Manila (AKA DLSU-Main) cheering for Red Lions too starting next month in the name of "GOODWILL". *peace*

VIVA MAPUA! ANIMO LA SALLE!
ANIMO DE LA SALLE - SAINT BENILDE!

renestrauss2004
May 28, 2006, 11:35 AM
Forgive me but when I see remarks similar to yours (and maybe ungga's) it kinda reminds me that we should stay on-topic again dahil ayoko maging flame thread ito. :glee:

nash-bedista - Salamat sa support ng Bedans last season sa Cheerdance competition. Mahirap talaga mag-hatak ng crowd dahil hindi naman obligated ang students. Pero sana this year they could drum up support from students to watch the competition para hindi na kami mag-rely sa inyo. :D

As for the rest of the schools, nakaka-inggit talaga ang support na pinapakita ng students and alumni niyo. Hopefully, CSB can bring in the numbers this season dahil host kami. ;)

So may official line-up na ba ang respective teams niyo? Less than a month na lang eh opening na! :up:
Support will naturally come in when the team is winning. I don't think the Blazers line-up this year is mediocre, you have an able point guard, a couple of big men from DLSU_Main and an experienced coach. Another thing is being the host school, siguradong maraming susuporta, from the school admi., students and alumni. Maybe you've forgotten about the 2000 finals when you won the Ncaa crown, halos mapuno ang RMC pati sa side ng baste halos beildeans nag-occupy. So i think hindi naman kayo madedehado sa paramihan ng tao lalo na the Blazers are the 2005 NCAA Seniors General Champion.;) ;)

lion_red
May 28, 2006, 09:33 PM
^it's maybe because of Coach Yturri's lame performance that shooes the supporters away.

Imagine a 1-13 card.

oscar3
May 29, 2006, 07:52 AM
^it's maybe because of Coach Yturri's lame performance that shooes the supporters away.

Imagine a 1-13 card.

If I were a CSB supporter, more than the win-loss stats, it is Yturri's demeanor and behavior on court and more importantly towards his players that makes their games not worth watching.

Pag may mali ang player parang alila kung pagalitan niya.

I am certain he'll never get another head coaching job in the college ranks.

comsite_boy
May 29, 2006, 10:40 AM
kahit im going on my post studies ngayon, pag may time ill still support Letran!!win or lose!

Arriba Letran!

AltarBoy^_^
May 29, 2006, 01:27 PM
Support will naturally come in when the team is winning. I don't think the Blazers line-up this year is mediocre, you have an able point guard, a couple of big men from DLSU_Main and an experienced coach. Another thing is being the host school, siguradong maraming susuporta, from the school admi., students and alumni. Maybe you've forgotten about the 2000 finals when you won the Ncaa crown, halos mapuno ang RMC pati sa side ng baste halos beildeans nag-occupy. So i think hindi naman kayo madedehado sa paramihan ng tao lalo na the Blazers are the 2005 NCAA Seniors General Champion.;) ;)

Mag-dilang anghel ka sana! For reasons unknown to a lot of pexers here, I think I will just have to wait for the announcement of the Blazers final line-up. :D

lion_red & oscar3 - Yturri's stint with the Blazers was no easy task and his behaviour is no longer an issue since he is, and will always be, a disciplinarian more than a coach. :D

boredtoday
May 29, 2006, 01:43 PM
^parang ang kawawa naman ng CSB.. i-checheer pa ng bedans para lang magkaroon ng confidence.

So its the Ateneo-La Salle rivarly that bonds DLSU-Saint Benilde and Sn.Beda

Wow.. I'm excited to see other LaSalistas from DLSU-Manila (AKA DLSU-Main) cheering for Red Lions too starting next month in the name of "GOODWILL".

talangka, gusto mo?

ill_behaviour
May 29, 2006, 05:41 PM
The fat of the crab will just slow his mind more in data processing causing the logical part of the lobe to malfunction making us readers/posters here suffer more on his posts.
So i say give him peanuts instead, good for the brain, yun nga lang baka tinitigyawat siya sa mani.

alvin_cabal2000
May 31, 2006, 02:08 AM
So its the Ateneo-La Salle rivarly that bonds DLSU-Saint Benilde and Sn.Beda

Wow.. I'm excited to see other LaSalistas from DLSU-Manila (AKA DLSU-Main) cheering for Red Lions too starting next month in the name of "GOODWILL". *peace*

VIVA MAPUA! ANIMO LA SALLE!
ANIMO DE LA SALLE - SAINT BENILDE!


:rotflmao: Ahhh..so you can't read english, Malayanian err Mapuan.

I said there might still be this good will that Bedans have extended to the La Salistas during the old NCAA wars. Some old Bedans might have this good vibe towards Benilde which is a La Salle school. DLSU and San Beda where close because of a sworn enemy, Ateneo. This was the time when this triad lorded over the once glamorous NCAA. Now its different. The Bedans have extended their goodwill to Ateneo.:rotflmao:


Now back to waht you said. Benildeans' needed the Bedans' help to feel confident?

hahaha... Actually, a Bedan will be helping you fight for the crown, Malayanian...errr Mapuan. Your team needed a Bedan. How about that? ..:hmm:

alvin_cabal2000
May 31, 2006, 02:22 AM
Clarkent, are you the Malayanian who studed post grad in La Salle and considered himself already a La Salista? A wannabe La Salista? Just curious.:love:

AltarBoy^_^
May 31, 2006, 11:39 AM
Stay on-topic alvin, ayoko ng mga ganyang flame-bait remarks sa thread ko. ;)

boredtoday
May 31, 2006, 01:25 PM
Clarkent, are you the Malayanian who studed post grad in La Salle and considered himself already a La Salista? A wannabe La Salista? Just curious.:love:
woah! let's not get too cruel here, he has feelings too you know... besides, mr. threadstarter wants a productive, bash free and flame free thread in the ncaa forum and we ought to respect that-- even if that spells OXYMORON in bold.

AltarBoy^_^
May 31, 2006, 01:43 PM
All I ever wanted was to fantasize, not attack another pexer's character. :laugh:

Anyway, oxymoronic as it is, let's keep the discussion healthy in terms of support for one another and do share your ideas with what we can do to make this league better. ;)

Clarkent
May 31, 2006, 06:09 PM
hahaha... Actually, a Bedan will be helping you fight for the crown, Malayanian...errr Mapuan. Your team needed a Bedan. How about that? ..

Another cub fled?
What's new?!

So Mr. Alvin Cabal, now that we have a former bedan in our roster?
What do you want us to do? to Thank You?!
Would that be enough for you to stop from doing that BADINGly effort of hitting below the belt.

So its the Ateneo-La Salle rivarly that bonds DLSU-Saint Benilde and Sn.Beda

Wow.. I'm excited to see other LaSalistas from DLSU-Manila (AKA DLSU-Main) cheering for Red Lions too starting next month in the name of "GOODWILL".

VIVA MAPUA! ANIMO LA SALLE!
ANIMO DE LA SALLE - SAINT BENILDE!

Funny! He found this post very offensive!
He was talking about "GOODWILL" that should go both ways
and all I did is to put it "the other way"..

Clarkent, are you the Malayanian who studed post grad in La Salle and considered himself already a La Salista? A wannabe La Salista? Just curious.

SShhh... That's supposed to be a secret.. :glee:

letranense1620
May 31, 2006, 06:20 PM
ssh tama na away. :)

The Royal College of Letran
Aim High!!!

celtics
Jun 12, 2006, 08:44 PM
^yup...swerte niyo...si TG Guillermo
actually dapat sa JRU ang punta ni TG. His uncle is the Assistant Athletic Director of Jose Rizal and his brother once played for JRU in the early 90's. Kaya lang medyo hindi siya kampante sa style ni coach Calilan. That's why he ended with Mapua, still he had offers from other UAAP school. But he choose the NCAA.

celtics
Jun 12, 2006, 08:51 PM
^yup...swerte niyo...si TG Guillermo
actually dapat sa JRU ang punta ni TG. His uncle is the Assistant Athletic Director of Jose Rizal and his brother once played for JRU in the early 90's. Kaya lang medyo hindi siya kampante sa style ni coach Calilan. That's why he ended with Mapua, still he had offers from other UAAP school. Still he choose the NCAA.

AltarBoy^_^
Jun 13, 2006, 02:54 PM
What SBC did for the CSB Pep squad was a sincere sign of support. They did not wait for anyone from CSB to ask them for help, they gave it wholeheartedly. Unless someone can prove otherwise na nagmakaawa na kami! Hehehehe! :glee:

And besides the fact that a lot of players are transferring to other schools, what else can we think about that can help the league?

If every establishment can watch a PPV show like the World Cup or televise the NBA finals, why can't they show the NCAA finals too?! If you're working for the NCAA marketing committee, you should learn from your predecessor's mistakes by taking initiative for developing the league's success through increased viewership. What SBC did for CSB at the last Cheering Competition was also initiative. Because no one else can do the same for CSB except their own students. And that's one virtue we must all develop. ;)

ja_mapuan
Jun 19, 2006, 05:01 AM
Guillermo will be given a big break sa cardinals basketball program... onti nlang point guards ng mapua eh.. meron ding mga 6'6 players. pantapat kay ekwe.. may franciscan pa, kkampi ni jofferson nung hi skul..


viva!

Rocker09
Jun 22, 2006, 12:50 AM
I'll be one of the few who will continuously support CSB....I'll watch the opening live...I'll also try to watch some live games....pag hindi ako makakanood, I'll watch at home...about the cheerdance competition, la salle schools are not really that interested when it comes to this...sa UAAP ganun din eh...I have no idea what the reason is...