Jun Bernardino named NCAA commissioner

[KobeWanKenobi]

Jun Bernardino named NCAA commissioner

Integrity, professionalism and experience are what Emilio "Jun" Bernardino Jr. will bring to the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA), as he assumes the position of basketball commissioner of the country’s oldest league.

The former Philippine Basketball Association (PBA) chief officially received his new post during a joint meeting by the NCAA Policy Board and Management Committee (Mancom) Wednesday at the Saint Benilde Hotel in Manila.

Bernardino is no doubt the right man for the job, as the NCAA celebrates its 82nd season with his vast experience and knowledge in basketball, highlighted with his stint in Asia’s first play-for-pay loop.

The former University of the Philippines stalwart was named PBA commissioner in 1994. However, he stepped down after the 2002 season due to a heart ailment.

"It is my pleasure to serve the NCAA for the 82nd season. Considering what basketball has given me, in terms of where I am now, I think it is [but] natural that I give back what I have received all throughout the years," Bernardino said.

The NCAA men’s basketball tournament starts June 24 at the Araneta Coliseum, with the Letran Knights shooting for back-to-back titles.

After playing for the Fighting Maroons, Bernardino joined Tefillin in 1979 as an assistant coach to Fely Fajardo for two PBA seasons. When the club disbanded in 1981, he turned to broadcasting.

He gained fame when he became a courtside reporter of the PBA, earning the name "Man on the Ball" in 1982.

In July that year, Bernardino joined the league as executive secretary. He went on to become executive director, then deputy commissioner and finally, commissioner—then the youngest to be appointed at the age of 46.

"We assure Commissioner Bernardino all our support. It is our privilege to have him in the NCAA," said NCAA Policy Board president Bro. Edmund Fernandez, FSC, of 2006 host school College of Saint Benilde.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=39072

Excellent news for NCAA fans.

[DarkMatrix01]

Great news!

[AltarBoy^_^]

Wow, parang professional league na ang NCAA. :laugh:

[KobeWanKenobi]

The appointment of Jun Bernardino is a huge boost to the NCAA. First, it gives added credibility to the league. Second, his previous experience with the PBA will help the NCAA, be it through marketing or the day by day affairs of the league. While the NCAA may not reach the appeal of the UAAP, it will become stronger under Commissioner Bernardino.

[ArtAttack]

sana mabigyan nya ng weekend games ang ncaa

[souljah_boy]

Rumor has it that the UAAP and the NCAA will both have weekend games, that the NCAA will get the Saturday slot, along with games on Tuesday and Friday, while the UAAP will have its games on Wednesday, Thursday, and Sunday. Too good to be true right? Again, it's just a rumor and I saw it here in PEx quite a month or two ago. Can't remember where.

[AltarBoy^_^]

Sana ganun ang mangyari para may share ng viewers pag weekends. Tutal established na ang UAAP, it wouldn't hurt to give a weekend slot just for the NCAA. :)

Pero mas ok sakin kung back-to-back games ng NCAA at UAAP ang gawin nila. For example, on a saturday, they would broadcast a game of Letran vs San Beda, tapos Ateneo vs UP. Diba mas win-win situation yun? :D

Kasi nasimulan na nila ang tradition ng UAAP vs NCAA for Bantay Bata, dapat may coordination na rin sa schedule ng games. :up:

[souljah_boy]

Nice one A-Boy *thumbsup* Maganda nga 'yun for both the UAAP and the NCAA. That will be Blockbuster Saturday. Tapos pareho pa sa Araneta gaganapin 'di ba? It's gonna be one wild day for the UAAP and the NCAA. As usual, sasabihin ng mga taga kabila na nakikisabay tayo sa kanila para tumaas ratings ng NC. Bunch of bull, they are saying. :lol:

[AltarBoy^_^]

Kasi wala nako maisip na mas ok na paraan para i-manage ang schedule ng games ng 2 liga na nasa isang tv network. They should try to experiment with the schedules para win-win situation sa dalawang liga tutal pinaglalaban na nila ang 2 after their respective seasons. I don't think ganun ka-shallow ang mga taga-UAAP para sabihin na nakiki-extra pa tayo sa timeslot nila.

Kunwari ganito, Tue-Thur (NCAA) Wed-Fri(UAAP) tapos Saturday (1 NC, 1 UA game) and Sunday optional pa (pwedeng UAAP games lang or combination din tulad ng saturday). One thing that stands in the way of these schedules is the sponsorship airtime. Pero halos parehas na ang sponsors yun nga lang lamang ang UAAP ng ibang sponsors. Pare-parehas lang naman mga target market, the college kids and alumni from each school participating in the 2 leagues. Mas tricky pa nga ang ginagawa nila sa PBL compared sa NC at UAAP dahil combination ng players ng 2 liga (plus fil-foreigners and draftees from media-deprived leagues like NCR, UCAA, SCUAA, Mindanao and Visayas college leagues) ang mina-market nila.

Kulang na nga lang eh makuha na rin nila ang FMC at Champions League sa fold ng ABS-CBN Sports kaso mauubos na ang timeslots nila for the other shows. I predict that they are going to create another channel that can rival Solar Sports and put all collegiate leagues in all regions in one channel. That is kung feasible and attractive ito sa mga sponsors in the long run dahil seasonal nga lang ang college basketball pero they could experiment with the Shakey's V-Ball, football, beach volleyball and who knows, maybe even grassroots basketball in HS.

Whew! Sarap mag-pantasya! :smoker: :rotflmao:

[ill_behaviour]

Sana ganun ang mangyari para may share ng viewers pag weekends. Tutal established na ang UAAP, it wouldn't hurt to give a weekend slot just for the NCAA. :)

Pero mas ok sakin kung back-to-back games ng NCAA at UAAP ang gawin nila. For example, on a saturday, they would broadcast a game of Letran vs San Beda, tapos Ateneo vs UP. Diba mas win-win situation yun? :D

Kasi nasimulan na nila ang tradition ng UAAP vs NCAA for Bantay Bata, dapat may coordination na rin sa schedule ng games. :up:


One problem is NCAA and UAAP have their own Legal Identity, how would the two league seperate its distinction in a one banner of activity like ticket sales, ad placements, rents and any other gain or profit that the activity will incur. The counsels for these two leagues will have their hands full in drafting a M.O.A. for this one.

[AltarBoy^_^]

That my friend is one M.O.A. that we should look forward to since it will pave the way for a better future for collegiate basketball in the Philippines. Imagine if all leagues and not just the NCAA or UAAP are competing with each other?

Since they provide tickets to each school in each league, they can allot logistics and manpower in selling tickets for each league game that coincides within the day. Ticketnet can handle sales and each school can handle distribution. I'm sure it's a win-win situation if they can create one great MOA for the two leagues. But like I said, mas masarap mag-pantasya muna. :glee:

[renestrauss2004]

^Pero eto ang mas magandang pagpantasyahan... na pag-isahin na lang ang college basketball. We can start with the merging of the Uaap and Ncaa just like NBA's East and West. Champions of both leagues will meet in a winner take all...best of 3. Winner will be declared The National Collegiate Champion!!! Sarap managinip noh!...

[souljah_boy]

Hanggang dun na lang tayo pag dating sa basketball, pagpantasyahan. :lol:

[ungga]

i think the NCAA is better off alone, why do you guys always want to attach the NCAA to the UAAP? lam ko talo tlaga NC sa ratings at sponsors pero ano to if we can't beat them just join them instead na lang ba? that's ********! NCAA has something the UAAP doesn't have and that is the true spirit of basketball! talent wise mas magaling tayo and we have to stick to that! the UAAP is just a show but the NCAA it's a game a true basketball game and i love this game!

[AltarBoy^_^]

Hindi sa ina-attach natin ang NCAA sa UAAP but you have to take a management point of view pagdating sa paghawak ng 2 liga sa iisang channel not to mention the PBL. Malaki na ang improvements ng coverage ng Studio 23 and I think it's time we move to unifying all collegiate leagues to complement watching habits of fans, alumni, and students from member schools. :D

Anyway, off-topic na tayo dito. Gawa na lang ako bagong thread na puro PANTASYA! :evil_lol:

[oscar3]

I think it is almost certain, for Season 82, the NCAA will have a weekend game.

With just 7 schools participating this coming season the UAAP cannot play on 2 consecutive days of Sat and Sun. Unless they change their scheduling, where one juniors or womens game will get live coverage on a weekend game.

When that weekend spot is given to the NCAA, I firmly believe, it will catapult the league to levels of popularity it hasn't experienced since the 70s.

[oscar3]

Let the two premier school leagues operate separately.

If the desire is to have a nationally recognized champion for the different events ( not just basketball ), let us put credibility to the National Students C'ship.

Give this National C'ship decent tv coverage. Make the qtrs/ semis/ finals live on tv. Give it space on the broadsheets.

No school would embarass itself to a national audience. Therefore, they'll stop the practice of fielding "diluted or incomplete lineups".

[oscar3]

^Pero eto ang mas magandang pagpantasyahan... na pag-isahin na lang ang college basketball. We can start with the merging of the Uaap and Ncaa just like NBA's East and West. Champions of both leagues will meet in a winner take all...best of 3. Winner will be declared The National Collegiate Champion!!! Sarap managinip noh!...

Hindi na kailangan managinip.

Last February, the POC recognized basketball body held its first National C'ship. Sa College division, nagtagpo ang FEU at Letran. Nanalo and FEU. Sa juniors San Beda ang champion, at FEU naman sa womens.

Unfortunately, it didn't merit the publicity befitting a National C'ship.

If organizers can hire "professional people" to market the event and promote it, then all this "wanting" for a big league will be satisfied.

[nets]

sana lahat yan magawan ng paraan ni comish..hehehe kung mgagawan ng paraan ng CSB yan eh sa tingin ko yan ang pinaka mlaking maambag nila sa season 82 as a host school db..so mkipagtulungan n kyo kay comish...

ilang days nlng huhoooo!!!!

[roadwarrior]

sorry to burst people's bubbles but i just saw the uaap sked and they have 2 seniors games on thurs, 1 seniors game on sat and 2 seniors games on sundays for their tv sked...

would've been nice if ncaa did get one of the weekend slots but it's not gonna happen this year...

[AltarBoy^_^]

Kaya nga mas masarap mangarap for next season! :glee: :evil_lol:

Don't worry guys, it will happen soon. Basta todo lang ang suporta muna sa NCAA! :D

[pulang leon]

Well if that's the case, I think we should bolt out of Studio 23 and move to GMA or another TV station... if they can't afford to market us now, specially that DLSU is out this season, I don't see any reason why they would give us those slots in the future, specially when DLSU would be around... I understand their reason, and that reason is simple... UAAP have more students than the NCAA... ratio i think is at least 5:1... their alumni and supporters are also about the same... even I, as a Bedan, would decide what's best for the Studio 23 company.. financially... which is to show games that would attract the most viewers... sure, our NCAA could attract fans that never went to any NCAA schools, but so could the UAAP schools... but they already have the numbers... unless the NCAA's population jumps up by 500% anytime soon, don't expect Studion 23 or ABS-CBN to give the NCAA equal share on air-time with their UAAP... the only way that would be possible is if NCAA moves to another TV-station where they can get equal share of air-time with the UAAP... or even more.... in another station, we can have as many games on weekends as we want... even if it conflicts with the UAAP schedule... which is a lot better, rather than not being shown at all because of the more favorable UAAP games... at least in another station, we can directly compete with the UAAP games... if we stay with Studio-23, we will not have a chance to grow as big as we want to... and we might even end up being forgotten or being set aside because UAAP are always given more exposure... by the time we get set aside, it'd be more difficult to ask another TV station to take us....

Now would've been the best time to consider moving to another TV station because DLSU is out, and we would have more interesting games to watch... there is a new born rivalry between Letran and PCU.. both met in the last 2 NCAA Finals i believe.... both remain strong up to know... they would have attracted a lot of non-NCAA fans if they given more exposure about them, made more stories about them, where members came from.. that probably would attract more fans nationwide.... and we're not having problems as big as the UAAP ineligibility problems... their fight or crowd rumbling problems, etc.. and i think i've said this before... if the NCAA wants to move out of the shadows of the UAAP... we should not share the same TV station.

[AltarBoy^_^]

That would be suicide pulang leon. We rely heavily on Studio 23's KABARKADA audience, which are high school and college students, yuppies and the other viewers. Sponsors trickled in when Studio 23 gave us that extra timeslot because they believed in ABS-CBN Sports' marketing, not the UAAP. We even had our dream match-up with the UAAP teams in the Bantay Bata showdown so pulling out is not the best option.

And we are not in their shadows, we are merely beside them. The UAAP selections last year got their @sses whipped courtesy of our NCAA selections. Timeslots can be changed, but we can't change viewers. :D

[letranense1620]

^ very true.

[nets]

both of you guyz have a point but with pulang leon's suggestion mukhang kulang na sa oras bro with less than 40 days nlng b4 season 82..

in my opinion d b MWF ang games ng NCAA sana u monday games naman should be televised for those who cant make it sa live game atleast mpapanood sa tv db,kahit un nlng mgawan ng paraan ng CSB officials and our new COMISS..ksi lyk the UAAP *** thursday games nila *** 2nd game televised tyo ** *** sa pinoyexchange ng aabang ng results minsan sa BULOK na NCAA.ORG ba un??sana kahit ganun man lang mgwa ng benilde this season ***** naman in less than 4days kaya p un hehehe

[r a z o r]

Last season yun Monday games walang TV coverage.

Better if they just move the Monday games to Saturday or Sunday with or without TV coverage.

[tulo_laway]

[QUOTE=roadwarrior]sorry to burst people's bubbles but i just saw the uaap sked and they have 2 seniors games on thurs, 1 seniors game on sat and 2 seniors games on sundays for their tv sked...

That's what you call greediness.

[AltarBoy^_^]

both of you guyz have a point but with pulang leon's suggestion mukhang kulang na sa oras bro with less than 40 days nlng b4 season 82..

in my opinion d b MWF ang games ng NCAA sana u monday games naman should be televised for those who cant make it sa live game atleast mpapanood sa tv db,kahit un nlng mgawan ng paraan ng CSB officials and our new COMISS..ksi lyk the UAAP *** thursday games nila *** 2nd game televised tyo ** *** sa pinoyexchange ng aabang ng results minsan sa BULOK na NCAA.ORG ba un??sana kahit ganun man lang mgwa ng benilde this season ***** naman in less than 4days kaya p un hehehe


I don't think CSB can make Studio 23 cover monday games, not when they have other problems to solve. Unless a new deal was struck between the MANCOM and the network. Or maybe sponsors came in to provide financial support for a complete coverage of the basketball games.

Dasal ko pa nga eh may aircon sa RMC dahil kung wala eh talagang disappointed nako sa CSB. Opening lang yata ang pinaghandaan nila kung ganun ang kaso. :(

[ungga]

kung sakaling aalis man tayo sa studio 23 i think the best alternative station we have is ABC5 sila lang kc yung may sports, maganda sana sa GMA dahil pwede nating samantalahin *** competition nila ng ABS-CBN pero malabo ata yon mukhang walang timeslot ang GMA di **** pwede sa QTV11 dahil hindi naman students ang target market non kundi mga babae lalo namang imposible ang star sports at ESPN kaya ABC5 **** ang pinakaposible pero sabi niyo nga medyo late na tska alam ko may kontrata sila sa Studio23 na i-cover *** games for a certain number of years

[roadwarrior]

well, i think the ncaa contract will be up for renewal after this season, so we will see if ncaa can get a rival bidder...

it was only a few short years ago (2002) when the ncaa on tv was just the opening and the finals, tape-delayed pa...

[AltarBoy^_^]

So far, wala pako nakikilalang nagco-cover ng college basketball like ABS CBN Sports. And the only outfit I can think of is Solar Sports. But they're too busy covering the NBA and other sports. ;)

[redboy]

Fingers should be pointed to the NCAA Board. No La Salle and yet we failed to grab one day during weekends. They should be aggressive and make a strong push for a Saturday game in Araneta.

Pag hindi pa aircon and Rizal, pathetic na talaga and NCAA.

[souljah_boy]

The thing is, once the NC season starts, NBA won't be available on Solar and NBA is only shown in the mornings. Then the NCAA can take a crack on Solar

[AltarBoy^_^]

Somebody should send a shout-out to Solar Sports to help the NCAA. :D

[ill_behaviour]

Be that as it may for the sake of discussion, ABC 5 should be the most likely to ably handle the NCAA marketing and coverage if the league would extinguish the contract with studio 23 now.

1. Due to time constraints they can tap the PBA production and staff including the courtsie reporters and game commentators for the time being. Replacements for a bona fide student reporter could take place after auditions.
2. ABC 5 is considerable aggressive in its program expansion to cover some air time.
3. And lastly i am a fan of Gretchen Baretto. Kahit na kasal pa siya kay tonyboy.

[souljah_boy]

I guess it's better if Solar gets the NCAA coverage because it's a SPORTS CHANNEL. ABC 5 lacks the marketing to the teens of today, although Ariel and Maverick makes us laugh.

[ill_behaviour]

I guess it's better if Solar gets the NCAA coverage because it's a SPORTS CHANNEL. ABC 5 lacks the marketing to the teens of today, although Ariel and Maverick makes us laugh.

Solar Channel has no present talent in their pool to handle courtside reporting and actual game analyses. Quinito is a PBA baby, most likely Solar will employ PBA people.
solar doesnt cover them live, in terms of actual coverage, let me remind you that they air NBA or other sport events via satellite feed. I'd go for ABC 5 PBA for manpower and resources.

[AltarBoy^_^]

FYI, Cheska Litton of Solar Sports was once a courtside reporter for San Sebastian in the NCAA until she rose from the ranks and got her own spot in Solar Sports. :D

I think ABC 5 lacks the charisma of Solar Sports in terms of coverage but I do agree that they need to recruit more people to cover the games. If Say Yutadco's contract with ABS-CBN expires, I would recommend her to help support Cheska with the job of reporting for the NCAA again. And I think Solar Sports will grow stronger as they bring in other events like local/international boxing, mixed martial arts, and of course, Texas Holdem Poker. ;)

[Mr. Brownstone]

the NCAA has already had talks with Solar. However, it doesn't look like it will happen soon. maybe in a year or two it will. but by then, the NCAA might have a contract elsewhere or stay with ABS.

see it's like this, the NCAA has been hard-pressed to find advertisers to support the league. the UAAP has had no problem in getting sponsors. here you have to give credit to ABS. they told advertisers that if they want to get into the UAAP then they have to put in spots in the NCAA coverage. a couple of years ago, the NC was losing money. about two years ago, they broke even for the first time. last year i am not so sure. but the league officials are trying to find ways to get more funding.

the WNCAA by the way has also talked to Solar.

as far as Solar covering basketball. it has the capability. it just has to add some people though. remember, a lot of the people in Solar came from Vintage. So hoops is no stranger to them. Their coverage of the Bad Boy Tour showed just that.

They have a stable of talents that is looking to grow. In fact, a friend inside Solar told me that they are about to snag two awesome talents.

the PBA will stay with ABC5 after al, they have done a masterful job.

si quinito Henson naman .. nampotcha naman o, pwede ba pati yan loko na iyan i-suspend na rin. OA masyado.

[ungga]

remember guys solar sports is a cable channel pano naman yung mga walang cable o kung may cable man eh destiny lang as far as i know sky cable lang ang may solar sports... di pa rin marereach ang target market. tska naririnig ba tayo ng MANCOM? sana naman para di mabalewala tong pinag-uusapan natin...

[Joy P. Mercado]

mabalik kay jun b., di ba na-stroke na yun? baka matuluyan yun sa mga rumble ng NC

[roadwarrior]

the NCAA has already had talks with Solar. However, it doesn't look like it will happen soon. maybe in a year or two it will. but by then, the NCAA might have a contract elsewhere or stay with ABS.

see it's like this, the NCAA has been hard-pressed to find advertisers to support the league. the UAAP has had no problem in getting sponsors. here you have to give credit to ABS. they told advertisers that if they want to get into the UAAP then they have to put in spots in the NCAA coverage. a couple of years ago, the NC was losing money. about two years ago, they broke even for the first time. last year i am not so sure. but the league officials are trying to find ways to get more funding.

the WNCAA by the way has also talked to Solar.

as far as Solar covering basketball. it has the capability. it just has to add some people though. remember, a lot of the people in Solar came from Vintage. So hoops is no stranger to them. Their coverage of the Bad Boy Tour showed just that.

They have a stable of talents that is looking to grow. In fact, a friend inside Solar told me that they are about to snag two awesome talents.

the PBA will stay with ABC5 after al, they have done a masterful job.

si quinito Henson naman .. nampotcha naman o, pwede ba pati yan loko na iyan i-suspend na rin. OA masyado.

QFT

"quoted for truthery" :rotflmao:

this guy knows what he speaks of...i didn't wanna say it before but in terms of tv adspend, the UAAP drew at least eight times the money compared to NCAA in the last three years...but the NCAA is now on the right track...

i remember back in 1997 when i handled the NCAA coverage for Vintage, we had trouble covering our meager costs...barely breaking even (which was roughly P3-M for the entire season not counting the sunk cost of airtime).

[AltarBoy^_^]

And that is why the NCAA owes ABS-CBN bigtime in terms of coverage and sponsorships. We should wait for the time when we don't have to rely on ABS-CBN's marketing to attract the sponsors. Kaya nga masarap na mangarap na lang muna. :laugh:

And back to the topic, na-stroke na si Commish Jun B.? Yari tayo diyan! Pag may gulo eh baka siya ang unang isugod ng ambulansya sa pinaka-malapit na ospital. :(

[tulo_laway]

In my own view, i'll stick it out with Studio 23. The NCAA is lucky to have respectable sportcasters covering the games in particular Mr. Bill Belasco and Mr. Butch Maniego. Without a sprinkle of doubt, these announcers are so much better compare to PBA commentators. It's only Ed Picson and Mico Halili who gives substance as for the others, PURO WALANG BINATBAT.

[ill_behaviour]

the NCAA has already had talks with Solar. However, it doesn't look like it will happen soon. maybe in a year or two it will. but by then, the NCAA might have a contract elsewhere or stay with ABS.

see it's like this, the NCAA has been hard-pressed to find advertisers to support the league. the UAAP has had no problem in getting sponsors. here you have to give credit to ABS. they told advertisers that if they want to get into the UAAP then they have to put in spots in the NCAA coverage. a couple of years ago, the NC was losing money. about two years ago, they broke even for the first time. last year i am not so sure. but the league officials are trying to find ways to get more funding.

the WNCAA by the way has also talked to Solar.

as far as Solar covering basketball. it has the capability. it just has to add some people though. remember, a lot of the people in Solar came from Vintage. So hoops is no stranger to them. Their coverage of the Bad Boy Tour showed just that.

They have a stable of talents that is looking to grow. In fact, a friend inside Solar told me that they are about to snag two awesome talents.

the PBA will stay with ABC5 after al, they have done a masterful job.

si quinito Henson naman .. nampotcha naman o, pwede ba pati yan loko na iyan i-suspend na rin. OA masyado.

Solar Sports could be the ideal media partner for the NCAA but i'd like to note that i preferred ABC 5 in the context of "if the NCAA will extinguish the contract with ABS this season 82". I leaned on ABC 5 for the urgency of having a media partner who could put the necessary resources and manpower immediately so as provide the NCAA games of live coverage and airtime.

[oscar3]

And that is why the NCAA owes ABS-CBN bigtime in terms of coverage and sponsorships. We should wait for the time when we don't have to rely on ABS-CBN's marketing to attract the sponsors. Kaya nga masarap na mangarap na lang muna. :laugh:

And back to the topic, na-stroke na si Commish Jun B.? Yari tayo diyan! Pag may gulo eh baka siya ang unang isugod ng ambulansya sa pinaka-malapit na ospital. :(

Hindi pwedeng utang na loob na lang at makontento bilang segunda.

For as long as the UAAP is "publicly perceived" to be a better league, it will top the polls, hence, ABS-CBN will see no need to market NCAA as a co-equal.

What is needed by the NCAA is a marketing push that will promote the league as a co-equal or better league. This, ABS-CBN will never do.

At the end of the current contract with ABS-CBN, the NCAA should shop for 1) A good marketing group, 2) another carrying station.

[Mr. Brownstone]

What makes you think that the NCAA is a better league than the UAAP? Just because they beat the UAAP in an All-Star Game? So when the UAAP beat the NCAA in previous years, they were the better league?

It should be noted that by the time Ateneo transferred to the NCAA in 1978, the UAAP was a stronger league (Adamson with Hector Calma was the champion then).

Give credit to ABS naman for what they've done for the NCAA. If you hear the NCAA people speak about how ABS maltreats them akala mo wala nang mas kawawa. ABS helped them a lot.

Yes, they probably need another station. Maybe the need a better marketing group. At the end of the day, it all revolves around how good the product is.
Ratings alone aren't a factor. You also have the purchase power of target audience.

And Solar will not get the NCAA unless they're able to fix their free TV ties (whether its acquiring RPN 9 on a full time basis or working with IBC and/or NBN). But

[oscar3]

^
I see no point in pursuing that line of discussion as to who is the better league. Matagal ng pinag-usapan yan at umikot at nagpaulit-ulit lang ang usapan.

I do give credit to ABS-CBN for bringing the NCAA to that level of awareness among the basketball public.

But my point is - "Hanggang duon na lang ba?"

ABS-CBN will not market both leagues on equal footing when infact the UAAP has an iron clad hold on the weekend broadcast. You can't market another when one has the coveted timeslot.

The only way the NCAA will have a weekend broadcast is for it to get another carrying station.

I firmly believe, if given a regular weekend schedule with the usual TV coverage, the NCAA will re-establish itself, in the eyes of the general public, as at least a co-equal of the UAAP.

[AltarBoy^_^]

Siyempre hindi naman makukuntento tayo diyan. Kaya nga nakipag-usap na sila sa Solar Sports. At hindi pa tayo hinog para mapahiwalay sa marketing ng ABS. Basta patience lang pards! ;)

[ill_behaviour]

^
I see no point in pursuing that line of discussion as to who is the better league. Matagal ng pinag-usapan yan at umikot at nagpaulit-ulit lang ang usapan.

I do give credit to ABS-CBN for bringing the NCAA to that level of awareness among the basketball public.

But my point is - "Hanggang duon na lang ba?"

ABS-CBN will not market both leagues on equal footing when infact the UAAP has an iron clad hold on the weekend broadcast. You can't market another when one has the coveted timeslot.

The only way the NCAA will have a weekend broadcast is for it to get another carrying station.

I firmly believe, if given a regular weekend schedule with the usual TV coverage, the NCAA will re-establish itself, in the eyes of the general public, as at least a co-equal of the UAAP.

Precisely.

Our sentiments are to see and to protect the future of the NCAA same as how you, from the UAAP, wants to see and protect the future of your league.

^It should be noted that by the time Ateneo transferred to the NCAA in 1978, the UAAP was a stronger league (Adamson with Hector Calma was the champion then).

Subject to debate and because of the line up of the RL at that time that includes chito Loyzaga. MonL could probably give us his point of view on this particular hoop year.

NCAA fans' sentiments are clear,we need a media outfit who has an all out support to the league, and who would actually accomodate the weekend games for airing.

[renestrauss2004]

With a new commisioner in the person of Mr. JUN BERNARDINO, we can attain that status and re-establish the NCAA as the premiere collegiate league. With his stature as former PBA commish, he can pull some strings and attract even more sponsors to be at par with the other league...connections di ba...

The departure of ATENEO AND LASALLE has contributed immensely to the emergence of Uaap as the premier or shall we say the "better" league.
Take this 2 glam schools away and what would you have...Defintely, these 2 schools can make a lot of difference.

But then again, how i wish they would rather merge to make everybody happy. Kelan kaya yon?

[ungga]

numbers count especially for sponsors and that is one thing we don't have, students pa lang ng UST baka apat na schools na sa NCAA combined. Ang liit kasi ng population ng mga NCAA schools karamihan kasi ng schools natin eh alternative schools lang or second choice masakit pero totoo yan tapos halos lahat ng first choice schools ay nasa UAAP. Expansion of the league should be considered para makabawi naman tayo sa numbers kahit papaano. May mga nag-aaply naman for membership di ba? Sa tingin ko panahon na para i-approve yon.

[bchoter]

I don't think the Commissioner will dabble with marketing the league.

As for the marketability of NCAA, they really hold the shorter end in terms of captured market. The UAAP schools, being universities, provide a wider fan base having more students and produces more alumni. It also doesn't help that two of the main attractions from the NC days of yore have moved to the UAAP. And these two former all boys school are as rabid as one school can get in terms of hoops competition. In the NCAA, only the Red Lions could rival these two schools in terms of fierce loyalty to the squad.

On the talent level, the NCAA may stand up or even beat the UAAP in a competion between select players from both squads, but I think the UAAP is still ahead in terms of talent accross all teams. Although, I think the gap is slowly closing. When that happens, the NCAA still has to contend with perception. Casual viewers not only perceive the NC as inferior to the UAAP talent-wise but the plays are far too "bara-bara" for them.

Having said that, I don't think ABS-CBN is inclined towards giving equal exposure to both leagues with UAAP having a lion's share of primetime exposure.

[ill_behaviour]

numbers count especially for sponsors and that is one thing we don't have, students pa lang ng UST baka apat na schools na sa NCAA combined. Ang liit kasi ng population ng mga NCAA schools karamihan kasi ng schools natin eh alternative schools lang or second choice masakit pero totoo yan tapos halos lahat ng first choice schools ay nasa UAAP. Expansion of the league should be considered para makabawi naman tayo sa numbers kahit papaano. May mga nag-aaply naman for membership di ba? Sa tingin ko panahon na para i-approve yon.

Quality not quantity.

the 8 member schools are enough in this metro manila based league. Proximity to the games venue speaks enough of the attendance.
I wouldnt go contemplating in accepting an applicant for mere mustering of numbers. It is more logical to drum support from all the alumni of all member schools in support of the leagues existence rather than add another applicant who would bring the same problems.
as i have said before, work on the alumni support. Let them be attendees, actual viewers, those 8 member schools are enough to nessecitate the leagues existence and progress.

[pulang leon]

What makes you think that the NCAA is a better league than the UAAP? Just because they beat the UAAP in an All-Star Game? So when the UAAP beat the NCAA in previous years, they were the better league?

It should be noted that by the time Ateneo transferred to the NCAA in 1978, the UAAP was a stronger league (Adamson with Hector Calma was the champion then).

Give credit to ABS naman for what they've done for the NCAA. If you hear the NCAA people speak about how ABS maltreats them akala mo wala nang mas kawawa. ABS helped them a lot.

Yes, they probably need another station. Maybe the need a better marketing group. At the end of the day, it all revolves around how good the product is.
Ratings alone aren't a factor. You also have the purchase power of target audience.

And Solar will not get the NCAA unless they're able to fix their free TV ties (whether its acquiring RPN 9 on a full time basis or working with IBC and/or NBN). But

I don't want to say UAAP students in general, because not all UAAP students are from Ateneo, but I think I can say Ateneans in general, tend to make such idiotic remarks like what Mr. Brownstone just did, the one quoted above.

Do I have to explain how stupid their excuses or reasons are for them to always "try" to have the NCAA under them?

Hear this: "What makes you think that the NCAA is a better league than the UAAP? Just because they beat the UAAP in an All-Star Game? So when the UAAP beat the NCAA in previous years, they were the better league?"

I'm not saying that we are better than the NBA right now, but if we have a match between our own PBA All-Star against the NBA All-Star someday, and our PBA version beats the NBA version, are you saying that PBA won't still be considered better than the NBA... even if we beat them?? Then what the heck are basketball matches are for??!? Eh bakit naglaro pa sila? Or would think they are still better and believe them more kasi mas hanga ka sa bansa nila? What if it was an All-Star in a different nation? Like in Taiwan? Or what about in Iran?

Again, another stupid opinion: "It should be noted that by the time Ateneo transferred to the NCAA in 1978, the UAAP was a stronger league (Adamson with Hector Calma was the champion then). "

I know Adamson as a very good team that year, obviously they won the UAAP championship that year led by a very good player in Hector Calma. Not to take anything away from Adamson, but I don't why you have to mention the obvious on who was the champion that yaer.... but that was Adamson's first and only championship in the UAAP history... I think. Is the fact that Adamson's only championship trophy ever support your claim that UAAP was a better league? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I'm not laughing at Adamson's only but excellent year in the UAAP, but on the Atenean's use of Adamson's championship year as support to his claim that UAAP was a better league in 1978. And I don't how UAAP suddenly became a stronger league when Ateneo joined the league... I don't think the fact has changed that Ateneo Blue Eagles were the losers in the NCAA when they left our league, against our very own or NCAA's San Beda Red Lions. The winner stayed in the NCAA and the loser couldn't take the heat and moved to the UAAP. So how can you say that "by the time" Ateneo moved to UAAP, it became a stronger league? It's true that the UAAP had strong teams like Adamson, FEU, and UE during those times... but how do you figure Ateneo contributed and tipped the balance to the UAAP "by the time" they moved to the UAAP? Ateneo didn't even win their first championship game in the UAAP until about a decade after.

An alternick?: "Give credit to ABS naman for what they've done for the NCAA. If you hear the NCAA people speak about how ABS maltreats them akala mo wala nang mas kawawa. ABS helped them a lot."

Either some of the Ateneans here in pex uses alternicks or Ateneans just sound alike no matter where they are. I think the NCAA people here in general understands the disadvantage that they have sharing the same tv station with the UAAP. Even I said that even if I was ABS-CBN, I would do what they are doing right now, which is to expose more UAAP games because they are more in demand because of their population in students, alumni, supporters, etc. We don't feel maltreated, it's just the way it is. We fully understand that. NCAA people are just smart people in general that we understand and we are constantly in pursuit in improving ourselves, even though we are a smaller populated league in students, alumni, and supporters, etc. ABS helped us, but we helped them too. It's all business. ABS wouldn't have earned income from sponsors from the NCAA games if it weren't of course for NCAA itself. You think ABS-CBN are showing NCAA games without making any money out of it? You mean ABS is willingly giving away its money for the NCAA, just for the sake of helping NCAA a lot? OWWWWSS??? Talaga???? But they're not willing to lose money for the sake of UAAP??? Sa NCAA lang sila may awa??? Sino nanaman inu-uto nyong mga Atenista? Eh pinag-aaralan pa lang ng UAAP Board yung suspension ng La Salle eh nagthre-threaten na kaagad yung ABS-CBN na i-cancel yung contract nila sa UAAP eh or bumawi ng pera dahil malulugi daw! Maybe your fellow Ateneans would believe that, but you can't sell that reason/opinion in here... I don't claim our NCAA people to be the smartest in the world, but I can guarantee you that we don't buy such ideas that your fellow ateneans would...

If we know that our growth is limited with ABS-CBN because we have to share it with a more popular UAAP... any normal and decent person's mind (normal and decent mind.. not atenean's mind..) would think of looking growing elsewhere... so why do you care if the NCAA go look somewhere else to grow and be more competitive?? sinusubukan nyo ba kami lokohin? as if naman kaya nyo.. you want us to stay with ABS-CBN and share that tv station with UAAP so we naturally have 2nd priority and stay under UAAP in exposure because both are in the same station and can't directly compete with them? ANO KA?? HILO?

atenista nga pala.

[Mr. Brownstone]

hahaha.

Anyway, according to NCAA officials, they choose not to have games during weekends because they fear that they will not get the crowds. It's only San Bed and Letran with that kind of rabid following.

They're trying to re-up with ABS and decision time is August of this year. Then they start shopping for a new network. What are they looking for also? More money.