What is the best High School in the Philippines?

[la_flash]

What is the best high school in the Philippines?

Ayan... mas lalong magiging hati-hati ang mga forumers... hehehe...

Para sa akin ito ang mga best high schools...

1. Manila Science HIgh School
2. Philippine Science High School
3. Ramon Magsaysay High School (Manila)

I am not from any of the above-mentioned schools...

[Dacs]

Nakow, paktay tayo dito. Bashing galore ito :D

[la_flash]

Nakow, paktay tayo dito. Bashing galore ito :D

hahahaha... di naman siguro... :rotflmao:

[Dacs]

I graduated from Manila Science, but even I admit that Philippine Science HS is the best.

:)

[xybert_22]

Malayan HS of Science. joke

[flsfnoeraekadad]

Xybert_22, yun bang Mapua sa may D. Jose pre-engineering HS ba ng Mapua yun?

[xybert_22]

Xybert_22, yun bang Mapua sa may D. Jose pre-engineering HS ba ng Mapua yun?


yeah, un *** HS ng MAPUA dati. Pero ngayon MALAYAN HS of Science na located sa PANDACAN.

[flsfnoeraekadad]

yeah, un *** HS ng MAPUA dati. Pero ngayon MALAYAN HS of Science na located sa PANDACAN.
Ano yun nasunog o nademolish o pinatanggal? Seems combination ng 3 *** bldg na un.

[baby_phat18]

for me...
1. Regional Science H.S cagayan valley syempers! *okay*
2. PSHS diliman
3. Manila Science H.S
4. Quezon City Science H.S

thats ol.. :)

[kyupayb]

ive heard of that Regional Science High School, one of their 3rd year students in 2001 (far as my memory's right) defeated the best student of Philippine Science High during the Digital LG quiz.

My mom said, the first teachers of Phil Sci and Manila Sci were pirated from Quezon City Science high.

walang binatbat ang mga Ateneo & Lasalle greenhills sa mga ito.

Philippine High School for the Arts at Mt. Makiling Los Banos is the best in terms of arts.

[tophe_17]

flsfnoeraekadad: di sya nasunog. I think it was demolished.
Wala na yung Mapua HS sa Doroteo Jose.
The HS of Mapua now is the MALAYAN SCIENCE HIGH SCHOOL that will be opened this coming June.

How does the building in Pandacan look like?

[COMIX]

ive heard of that Regional Science High School, one of their 3rd year students in 2001 (far as my memory's right) defeated the best student of Philippine Science High during the Digital LG quiz.

My mom said, the first teachers of Phil Sci and Manila Sci were pirated from Quezon City Science high.

walang binatbat ang mga Ateneo & Lasalle greenhills sa mga ito.


ewan ko lang sa ateneo, pero ang la salle greenhills hindi mahilig magpadala ng participants sa mga quizzical contests kaya walang gaanong nananalo. Wala din gaagong mahilig mag participate. But I'm not saying this is a good thing for La Salle's image.
The last person i know who represented LSGH in LG Quiz was Benjo delarmente??, an UPSILONian guy :) who is now a 2nd-year medical student at UP Manila. If memory serves me right, he did place well in the contest even almost bagging the top prize.

Base on my personal observation, magagaling din ang graduates ng UPIS. I can always compare them to those graduates of science high schools.

[zacharaiolsen]

Hey Baby_paht18, anung batch ka?

My sister graduated from UPIS, filipino raw ang math and some sa physics nila. astig.

I bro was from Que Sci. Me and my Sis from Regional Science High, region 2.

da best kase sobrang galing at saya. yung bully ng batch ang pinaka unang umiyak nung graduation, hidni pa nga nagstart yung ceremonies.

sabi pa nung iba, sana di na lang kame nagka kilala kung magkakahiwa hiwalay rin naman pala after 4 years.. ganun kalupet ang ligaya sa RSHS, hayskul life was the best part of my talambuhay!

balita ko ganito rin daw sa ibang Regional Science High sa ibang Regions..
meron sa San Fernando La Union, sa Munoz Nueva Ecija, sa Olonggapo, Zamboanga City, etc.

"... sa ilalim ng bilog na buwan, mga tyan nati'y walang laman
ngunit kahit na walang pera, ang bawat gabi'y anong saya..."

[flsfnoeraekadad]

ewan ko lang sa ateneo, pero ang la salle greenhills hindi mahilig magpadala ng participants sa mga quizzical contests kaya walang gaanong nananalo. Wala din gaagong mahilig mag participate. But I'm not saying this is a good thing for La Salle's image.
The last person i know who represented LSGH in LG Quiz was Benjo delarmente??, an UPSILONian guy :) who is now a 2nd-year medical student at UP Manila. If memory serves me right, he did place well in the contest even almost bagging the top prize.

Base on my personal observation, magagaling din ang graduates ng UPIS. I can always compare them to those graduates of science high schools.
Comix, info lang po :)

The last guy who won the LG Quiz [GMA 7] was from LSGH. I dunno his name na pero after the win, he was granted Star Scholarship at DLSU-Manila. I always believed in UP and La Salle people.

[xybert_22]

Ano yun nasunog o nademolish o pinatanggal? Seems combination ng 3 *** bldg na un.

Pinatanggal kasi masyadong pangit yung site. Nasa pandacan na ngyon *** HS ng MAPUA (MALAYAN HS of SCIENCE).

[baby_phat18]

Hey Baby_paht18, anung batch ka?


batch 2003 po..

huhu miss ko na nga mga clasm8s ko nunh H.S!!! :mecry:

oh oh...alam nyo ba *** Albert Einstein* H.S sa iloilo yata?
and chiang kai shek H.S
i gues magagaling din ang mga students dun? :eek:

[baby_phat18]

Pinatanggal kasi masyadong pangit yung site. Nasa pandacan na ngyon *** HS ng MAPUA (MALAYAN HS of SCIENCE).

Yup! pag-nagagawi nga ako sa bambang para bumili ng mga chemicals, nadadaanan ko un.

madilim kasi sa ilalim ng LRT yata?
dami pang adik. scarry.. :lol:

[Kolmogorov]

My mom said, the first teachers of Phil Sci and Manila Sci were pirated from Quezon City Science high.



This is not true simply because Manila Science and Pisay were founded before QueSci (Masci-1963, Pisay 1964).

And since Masci started as a pilot section of Manila High School, most probably the first teachers are from Manila High.

I'm from Masci but I believe too that Pisay is the best high school in the country.

[blue_tooth]

1. Manila Science
2. Pisay
3. Makati Science
4. Quesci

Makati Science medyo bago pero promising...madami na ding local and int'l contests na nasalihan at awards, citations na natanggap...

[badabing]

ive heard of that Regional Science High School, one of their 3rd year students in 2001 (far as my memory's right) defeated the best student of Philippine Science High during the Digital LG quiz.

My mom said, the first teachers of Phil Sci and Manila Sci were pirated from Quezon City Science high.

walang binatbat ang mga Ateneo & Lasalle greenhills sa mga ito.

Philippine High School for the Arts at Mt. Makiling Los Banos is the best in terms of arts.


caloocan high school (or something like that) beat the best seniors of Pisay 86 in Kilometrico Quiz Date. funny no one's mentioning caloocan high as the best. :D

[Dacs]

This is not true simply because Manila Science and Pisay were founded before QueSci (Masci-1963, Pisay 1964).

And since Masci started as a pilot section of Manila High School, most probably the first teachers are from Manila High.

I'm from Masci but I believe too that Pisay is the best high school in the country.

See? Dalawa na kami nyan ha?

I (or baka ikaw rin Kolmogorov) was led to believe that Masci was the best HS in the Philippines by no other than our principal back then, but when I reached college, wala na :D Iba talaga galing sa Pisay. Don't get me wrong though, Masci is one of the best here in Pinas. After all, I wouldn't be able to enter UP if not for my HS :)

[Kolmogorov]

^ha ha. I remember ang mga sermon niya tuwing flag ceremonies and it was really annoying sometimes pero she was just doing her job to instill school pride kahit isa tayo sa pinaka-poor na school sa Manila. She never failed to recognize the teachers and students who won or placed in several competitions (outperforming exclusive high schools though mahirap talaga kalabanin ang mga Chinese schools he he), some of them even international ones, even if we didn't have all those expensive facilities. Paano ka naman di magiging proud nyan he he

Gaya mo, I also give credit to Masci for giving me good preparation to enter UP. Ewan ko, kahit yung mga hindi magagaling na teachers ay naging challenge pa rin sa akin in one way or another. Siguro, Mascians felt so deprived during our high school years kaya feel natin " the grass is greener on the other side" he he.

[la_flash]

^^ But I still believe that MaSci is the best... I am not from Masci,
but I have classmates from different schools (MaSci, PiSay included).
MaSci studes stand out (even the pasaway ones... hahaha).

[Dacs]

Ahehehe "grass is greener on the other side" hehehe

Anyhow, it's a shame that Masci is not a science HS anymore. Can you guys believe that? And we're talking about way back late 1980s pa! I must give credit to Ms. Daisy H. Banta (arguably the most popular figure in Masci's history) since looking back at hindsight, parang ang odds against sa atin, and yet at least she kept our morals high, and made us believe that we're better than Pisay.

Pero ang sungit nun! HAHAHAHA :D

[la_flash]

^^ actually kahit sa ibang school sikat yang si Ms. Banta...
ewan ko ba kung bakit...

what do you mean na di na science high school ang MaSci?

[Kolmogorov]

^ It was discussed in several masci alumni mailing lists na Masci was really not a science high since the 80s. Medyo naguluhan ako dun pero it doesn’t matter to me. The curriculum is still science and technology oriented and still way different from other schools. And kahit naman officially science high yan hindi rin naman sila magbibigay ng additional funds but we survived.

Ang hindi maganda is if the new admin will lower its admission standards and run the school just like an ordinary public high school

[la_flash]

^ It was discussed in several masci alumni mailing lists na Masci was really not a science high since the 80s. Medyo naguluhan ako dun pero it doesn’t matter to me. The curriculum is still science and technology oriented and still way different from other schools. And kahit naman officially science high yan hindi rin naman sila magbibigay ng additional funds but we survived.

Ang hindi maganda is if the new admin will lower its admission standards and run the school just like an ordinary public high school

ang labo naman niyan... wala bang confirmation tungkol dito?

kasi kung di na science high school ang MaSci, eh di dapat di na siya
MaSci...? ay ewan...

Bakit nga pala lahat ng department heads nasa MaSci... hehhehee...

[Dacs]

Kolmogorov: Nu batch mo grad dun? :D

I believe dati may allowance pa ang Masci, just like Pisay. Tapos after nga nung late '80s, nawala na.

[flsfnoeraekadad]

Pinatanggal kasi masyadong pangit yung site. Nasa pandacan na ngyon *** HS ng MAPUA (MALAYAN HS of SCIENCE).
Kelan pa? Saan banda sa Pandacan *** Malayan HS?

[xybert_22]

Kelan pa? Saan banda sa Pandacan *** Malayan HS?

I dont know what is the exact place, ang alam ko lang don sya nilipat. MAgsstart na *** this coming june.

[flsfnoeraekadad]

I dont know what is the exact place, ang alam ko lang don sya nilipat. MAgsstart na *** this coming june.
Quartermester din? Ano sya, yun na yung pre-eng school? Siguro all math na lang ituturo dun :lol:

[xybert_22]

Regular na HS. DI na ata *** pre-eng SCIENCE HS na ata.

[bluethehero]

no pun intended, and biased, but the best high school for me is definitely

San Beda High School

and that is not limited to the academics :)

[Dacs]

ang labo naman niyan... wala bang confirmation tungkol dito?

kasi kung di na science high school ang MaSci, eh di dapat di na siya
MaSci...? ay ewan...

Bakit nga pala lahat ng department heads nasa MaSci... hehhehee...

Sa name na lang ata yung Masci, before it was axed as a "science HS", parang Pisay din ang Masci. But after that, isa na lang glorified public HS yun :)

Someone correct me if I'm wrong tho.

Sa 2nd question mo, ano ibig mong sabihin?

[zacharaiolsen]

Quezon City Science High School
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

The Quezon City Science High School (QCSHS or Quesci) is a secondary level school located at Misamis Street, Bago Bantay, Quezon City, Philippines. Founded in 1967, it is the regional science high school for the National Capital Region. QCSHS is one of the most prestigious secondary level schools in the Philippines and has consistently been ranked within the top ten of the annual National Secondary Achievement Test. It holds the distinction as among the national leaders in the field of Mathematics competitions being among the country's most consistent schools in terms of its performance in the DepEd-sponsored MTAP contests the past 10 years. It is also recognized as a powerhouse in the field of Campus Journalism with its student publications ranked in the Top 10 of DepEd and National Press Club-sponsored contests on a yearly basis and its performance in the student press competitions. In 2004, it shot to international acclaim when a group of its student-researchers bagged the fourth Grand Award in the Intel International Science and Engineering fair held in Portland, Oregon.


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16 DepEd administered regional
science schools listed
Tony Pe Rimando, Manila Bulletin

The Department of Education (DepEd) has listed its own administered and managed regional science high schools (RSHS) which it has established for the past three years.

Education Undersecretary for Regional Operations Ramon C. Bacani said the DepEd-operated RSHS, one for its 16 regions, receive their budget and maintenance and other operating expenses (MOOE) directly from the DepEd which also pays the salaries and allowances of their principals and teachers.

The establishment by DepEd of a RSHS in each of its regions is designed to promote and strengthen science secondary education throughout the country.

The RSHS, which is different from government science secondary institutions directly funded by the General Appropriations Act, offers science-oriented curriculum different from that of ordinary national high schools.

Their students are admitted through an entrance test to ensure that only talented elementary school graduates can enter the RSHS.

In a memorandum Bacani issued recently to the field, the DepEd-operated RSHS are as follows:

Luzon-Ilocos Regional Science High School (RSHS) in Bangar town, La Union; Cagayan Valley RSHS in Tumauini, Isabela; Central Luzon RSHS in East Kalayaan, Olongapo City; Southern Tagalog RSHS in Carlita, Maragondon, Cavite; Bicol RSHS in Ligao, Albay; Cordillera RSHS in La Trinidad, Benguet, and Quezon City Science High School for National Capital Region.

Visayas-West Visayas RSHS in Old Buswang, Kalibo, Aklan; Ramon Tavera Pastor Memorial SHS for Central Visayas in Daco, Dumaguete City; Cabiga National High School for Eastern Visayas.

Mindanao-Zamboanga Peninsula RSHS in San Roque, Zamboanga City; Gusa National High School for Northern Mindanao in Cagayan de Oro City; Gov. Leopoldo Lopez Memorial Science High School for Southern Mindanao in Mati, Davao Oriental; Alabel National Science High School for Central Mindanao in Alabel, Sarangani; San Juan National High Schoolfor Caraga in San Juan, Surigao City, and Amir Bara Lindasan National High School for Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao in Parang, Maguindanao.

*okay*

[la_flash]

Sa name na lang ata yung Masci, before it was axed as a "science HS", parang Pisay din ang Masci. But after that, isa na lang glorified public HS yun :)

Someone correct me if I'm wrong tho.

Sa 2nd question mo, ano ibig mong sabihin?

AY SORRY... di department heads kundi supervisors ang mga tinutukoy
ko... hehehe.

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ano naman ang pinagkaiba ng mga science high schools sa MaSci?

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so may reklamo din pala ang mga estudyante ng MaSci sa school nila.
akala ko kami lang may mga reklamo sa school namin... hehehe

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ano ang mas magaling Ramon Magsaysay High School (Manila) or
Ramon Magsaysay High School (Cubao) ? hehehe... no bashing po
sana... ano po ba ang mas nauna... kasi masyadong identified ang
RMSHS sa Manila eh.

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Sa NCEE, ano'ng school ang mga namayagpag. Totoo ba iyong mga
tsismis na halos lahat ng mga taga MaSci ay naka-99+? at mayroon
ba talagang 99++?

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Wala na palang NCEE at NSAT... ano na nga ba ang pumalit ngayon?

[Kolmogorov]

^puwede ko bang sagutin yung iba mong tanong? he he

Masci is a science high school but it is funded by the Division of City Schools Manila where other public high schools in Manila get their budget, unlike Pisay na under DOST. Actually, it is considered a "promotion" if a department head sa Masci ay lumipat sa ibang public high school sa Manila simply because mas malaki ang ibang public schools. SO just like any public school, talagang marami kaming reklamo.

About the NCEE scores? siguro nung unang panahon ganyan ang mga scores nila. Nung time namin (NSAT na) hindi naman lahat ay ganyan kataas. In my case, pinahamak ako ng Filipino where I only got 92 kaya ayun, bumababa ang NSAT average ko he he...

About Ramon Magsaysay Manila, hmm, minsan sumasali rin sila sa mga Math and Science contests saka I think dun nag high school si Roselle Ambubuyog, the visually-impaired student who graduated summa cum laude in ateneo

[student_01]

consider la salle high schools in the philippines

>>> De La Salle - College antipolo
>>> La Salle Greenhills
>>> De La Salle- Zobel
>>> La Salle- Iligan
>>> De La Salle UniVersity- Araneta

[flsfnoeraekadad]

and chiang kai shek H.S
i gues magagaling din ang mga students dun? :eek:
Super. Lalo na sa math. Most Chiang Kai people I know in La Salle are 4.0 pagdating sa math or math-related subjects.

[QUOTE=student_01]consider la salle high schools in the philippines

>>> De La Salle - College antipolo
>>> La Salle Greenhills
>>> De La Salle- Zobel
>>> La Salle- Iligan
>>> De La Salle UniVersity- Araneta[QUOTE]
Please stop, you're not doing any good.

[student_01]

huh? youre so weird. shinare ko lang ang thought ko, ang weir mo dude, youre thinking it the other way around.... god!

[flsfnoeraekadad]

huh? youre so weird. shinare ko lang ang thought ko, ang weir mo dude, youre thinking it the other way around.... god!
There's a lot of thread-mongers here. Extra care, please?

[guinevere_79]

I don't want to start a bashing brigade here, but isn't it useless to compare the Science High Schools to the private schools like Xavier, Ateneo, La Salle etc? Take Pisay, for example. Their students represent the best of the best from various grade schools in the country (and a good number for the private schools above-mentioned). So can we really conclude that Philippine Science is a better high school when it's student population is already above par in the first place?

For me, in the case of Philippine Science particularly, it's really the students who "make" the school, and not the other way around.

[Kolmogorov]

^You can always “avoid” the comparison but do you believe that the exclusive schools are not expected to catch-up by default?

[atenean_blooded]

There has neither been discussion nor qualification of "best" in this thread.

[badabing]

I don't want to start a bashing brigade here, but isn't it useless to compare the Science High Schools to the private schools like Xavier, Ateneo, La Salle etc? Take Pisay, for example. Their students represent the best of the best from various grade schools in the country (and a good number for the private schools above-mentioned). So can we really conclude that Philippine Science is a better high school when it's student population is already above par in the first place?

For me, in the case of Philippine Science particularly, it's really the students who "make" the school, and not the other way around.

why are the students of pisay, as you said, "best of the best"?
simple, they passed a vey selective screening process. some who passed the exam opted not attend but a majority did.
now other schools, private or otherwise, employ tests to select only those candidates they deem desirable. is right to say then, that it is "useless" to compare them to schools not giving entrance tests, because their students are of better caliber? or even to test-giving schools because test selectivity and difficulty vary from school to school.

for argument's sake let us say that Pisay abolished its screening exams and allowed every pedro, juan and maria to enroll. what do you think will happen? budget per student will plummet. so will grades. pisay won't dominate the math and physics olympiad. a lot will fail UPCAT, ACET, DLSUCET...etc, etc.
in due course pisay will be relegated to an ordinary high school and eventually lose the best and brightest grade schoolers to private schools with their lure of high academic standard and a rich intellectual environment. in short it's not the best high school or even one of the best anymore.

a whole lot of things define the quality of a school. facilities, curriculum, budget, teachers, STUDENTS and yes, alumni.
the best teachers and curriculum will be for nothing if the average IQ of the students is no higher than room temperature. surely a school like this will not be the ideal "best school". conversely brainy people who are not exposed to an intellectual environment will still be smart but would not fully develop their potential and the mental discipline needed to excel in the difficult fields they'd likely take up. not a "best school" either.
i included the alumni just because a school's reputation rise and fall to some degree with the success of its products. a browsing of the "best graduate of your school" threads and their ilk proves this point. moreso the success of the alumni transcends to the job market where certain schools are preferred over others adding to the perception of being the "best school".

US News publishes annually its best universities listing and the criteria i described above among others are adopted. it is interesting to note that schools notorious for their student selectivity(Caltech, MIT, Harvard) rank near the top.
Locally UP, Ateneo, DLSU are usually considered the "Top Three", "Big Three", "Elite" universities. again these three are relatively more selective than say UST. but UST boosters assert "we don't get the best but mold them to be the best" or something to that effect. going back to your point, is it fair to comare UST to UP, Ateneo, La Salle? and further, does this make UST the better school?

[flsfnoeraekadad]

Elite school is only a word for those in the top 500.

[la_flash]

There has neither been discussion nor qualification of "best" in this thread.

It is up to the poster to decide what is his criteria in determining the
best school in terms of academics...

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Why did I chose MaSci as the best school... ?

1. Based on my experience in high school when I was still active in joining
several quiz shows. MaSci is one of the best.
2. Based on my experiece with my classmates in college. I have classmates
that came from MaSci and PiSay. They were only ordinary students.
MaSci studes fare better. I don't know as I ddn't take other factors in
such as "baka tinamad na yung taga-PiSay"... hehehe.

Neck to neck ang laban ng PiSay at MaSci...

Re St. Stephens and Chang Kai Sheik... ano ba ang mga kinakain ng mga
bata dito at ang gagaling sa Math... hehehe...

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Do students made the school or the school made the students?

I think it is both... we can't take one over the other as the absolute
answer.

[Dacs]

All here are speculation at best, just like with other threads about "the best University in the Philippines"

Anyhow, I was able to mingle with Pisay grads back in college, and although may mga bulakbol ding Pisay (like me hahaha), some of them are really good. I'm not saying na wala kaming mga taga Masci, but I must give credit to their school and training. *okay*

[atenean_blooded]

why are the students of pisay, as you said, "best of the best"?
simple, they passed a vey selective screening process. some who passed the exam opted not attend but a majority did.

What are the other components of this "very selective" screening process? A test? That's it?

now other schools, private or otherwise, employ tests to select only those candidates they deem desirable.

And your proof for this is?

And doesn't Pisay employ tests to select candidates with an aptitude and preference for the sciences (their "desirable" criterion)?


is right to say then, that it is "useless" to compare them to schools not giving entrance tests, because their students are of better caliber? or even to test-giving schools because test selectivity and difficulty vary from school to school.

Is the better caliber necessarily and definitely above par in all aspects?


for argument's sake let us say that Pisay abolished its screening exams and allowed every pedro, juan and maria to enroll. what do you think will happen? budget per student will plummet. so will grades. pisay won't dominate the math and physics olympiad. a lot will fail UPCAT, ACET, DLSUCET...etc, etc.
in due course pisay will be relegated to an ordinary high school and eventually lose the best and brightest grade schoolers to private schools with their lure of high academic standard and a rich intellectual environment. in short it's not the best high school or even one of the best anymore.

Note that the top private schools also charge exorbitant tuition, and in hard times, this is a necessary factor in deciding where to have a child matriculate.


a whole lot of things define the quality of a school. facilities, curriculum, budget, teachers, STUDENTS and yes, alumni.
the best teachers and curriculum will be for nothing if the average IQ of the students is no higher than room temperature. surely a school like this will not be the ideal "best school". conversely brainy people who are not exposed to an intellectual environment will still be smart but would not fully develop their potential and the mental discipline needed to excel in the difficult fields they'd likely take up. not a "best school" either.
i included the alumni just because a school's reputation rise and fall to some degree with the success of its products. a browsing of the "best graduate of your school" threads and their ilk proves this point. moreso the success of the alumni transcends to the job market where certain schools are preferred over others adding to the perception of being the "best school".

Agreed.


US News publishes annually its best universities listing and the criteria i described above among others are adopted. it is interesting to note that schools notorious for their student selectivity(Caltech, MIT, Harvard) rank near the top.

Of course, schools like Harvard don't just consider the SAT when deciding on admissions.

And top schools like those you mentioned, especially those in the Ivy League, are notorious for admitting the "desirable."

Check this link out:

http://www.newyorker.com/critics/atlarge/articles/051010crat_atlarge

[caryatid_kitten]

I think the Science Schools (Pisay, Masci) are altogehter a different league. Hands down, they have brilliant students. I should also say that for Philippine High School of the Arts.

If I were to choose from the private schools, I'm very much biased for Ateneo, La Salle, Assumption, Poveda, Woodrose, St. Scho, Southridge, CSA, I.S, Brent,St.Paul (Pasig), DBTi (Makati),OBMC Why? It's the overall personality of their alumni - self confidence, assertiveness and well-roundedness. I've met people from other schools in my university (believe me...there's a very diverse mix of people there), and yes there is a stark difference from the students coming from these high schools. The academic performance of these students could actually be equal to those people coming from other high schools, BUT, their social skills and assertiveness is another story. Plus, the WAY they think and the way they grasp knowledge. Add to that their interests are more diverse. Yes, there are a few bad apples who are "mata-pobre" and "mayabang", but generally, these people are more adept to adjusting to their surroundings.

I could be wrong to most of you. I'm speaking from experience :)

[grim_reaper1814]

yung school ko, hindi Science high school pero yung curriculum namin ay science oriented. 2 pa nga entrance exams namin para makapasok sa science class. may stipend din kami. siguro BCNHS ang best national high school sa buong pilipinas.

[la_flash]

^^ ang suwerte mo naman... *okay*

ang MaSci yata wala stipend... kaya nga siguro di na siya
science high school... ano kaya ang nangyari? ang ganda
naman ng performance ng MaSci ah.

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we can't also take those from private schools for granted...

[Kolmogorov]

^yeah, matagal nang walang stipend ang Mascian students, long before I entered and I think never nagka-stipend ang mga students at all...

On the brighter side, we are not required to take courses related to science and technology in college so kung gusto mo mag theater arts after Masci, suportahan ta ka! he he

[Dacs]

Sa Pisay ba kelangan ganun?

[luckygohappy]

kahit na colegio san agustin ako,

WALANG AANGAL:ang mga pinakamatatalinong tao sa pilipinas nasa philippine science highschool. they have an 'IQ cut' there of 120(?)-->somewhere there.

kapag lower than 120(somewhere there) ang IQ mo, di ka makakapasok kahit anong gawin mo.

[Dacs]

I didn't know na may IQ test sa Pisay

[la_flash]

IQ test sa PiSay... never heard of that either...

[luckygohappy]

meron. masteral thesis yun ng mom ko... about giftedness thing... basta yun.

[paparagon]

wala atang nag-li-list ng mga UP high schools. di ba sila maganda?

[la_flash]

^^ mas hinahangaan kasi ang PiSay and MaSci... hehehe...

[flsfnoeraekadad]

Gusto ko pumasok dun nung HS. Pero alang nangyari.

[gox]

I do not know if there is a "best high school" in the Philippines. there are a lot of good ones.

My biased opinion:

For science high schools: PSHS. Almost everyone I met from this school is almost borderline genius. They send their graduates to the best schools both here and abroad.

For private schools: I.S. Nothing beats raising your kids in a multinational environment (especially in this very interdependent world), being taught by teachers with Phds's and a liberal/novel approach to teaching. it is a well known secret that they are a feeder school for Ivey leagues...problem is they are damn expensive and pretty much unaffordable to people below the A-class.

[dirty_angel]

ako, upis..:D

[melquiades]

Pasig Catholic College

--- First School To Win The Battles Of The Brains

[la_flash]

^^ Really? I thought it was MaSci.. oh wait... I think MaSci
never won Battle of the Brains... or I could be wrong...

[paparagon]

ako uprhs!

[kyupayb]

Manila Science High School is the best..... I was batch 2003 then pero kahit na wala kaming stipend and bulok ang mga facilities ay talaga namang inilalampaso namin ang Pisay.... We were even the top school in NSAT during our time. Talagang neck to neck ang labanan... And we do not have fundings ah! But still, students shine best when they are taken into the rough. Kung baga among the science high schools, Pisay lang talaga ang Kalevel namin. We were the first and those other science high schools are just copycats. And Quesci being the regional science high school? It is because we virtually DISSED it. Tinanggihan namin dahil during the Banta Years, we are preserving our curicullum kaya we do not want to be under the DOST. Kaya if they are bragging about it, sinalo lang nila ang inayawan namin. Still, Manila Science High School is the Best High School in the Philippines... Even without a strong funding from the government, we still outshone them all. :-)

[jeune_fille]

@la_flash Masci won the grand prize of Battle of the Brains during the batch of Patrick de Guzman

[la_flash]

^^ what batch?

[carloud]

hmm para sakin NCBA

dun sa malapit sa fairview center mall


da best ^_^


astig facilities!!!!!

at naka aircon












ang fairview center mall



ang ncba







astig!




may malapit na kainan ng hamburger ^_^

[predo]

for me the best high school in the Philippines is
"PHILIPINE HIGH SCHOOL FOR THE ARTS" (PHSA)
this is the counterpart of pisay, only,..yeah, more on arts..
pupils from the entire archipelago converge in the slopes of Mt. Makiling in UPLB, Laguna, and spend the rest of their 4 years living in one of the "cottage"
dormitories sprawled along the forest trees. The place is comonly known as the National Arts Center, desgined by the late National Artist for Architecture Leandro Locsin. Boasting of the magnificent view of the Laguna Bay, the school teaches you not the your usual high school curicculum, but more appropriately I say, about life. I thought of Hogwarts School of Magic & Wizardry as the more or less in similar picture - minus the formal uniforms and castle of course.
and like PSHS,everything is provided for by the goverment. Allowances, food, transportation, tuition/fees and housing.
yet, despite engaging in national search for new pupils, every year, the school's student body rarely exceeds 150, so chances are, you get tired of the same faces everyday for the next four years - if they don't get kicked out.

[jeune_fille]

@ la flash
He is batch 1999! his colleague Neil Tristan won the Battle of The Brains twice in a row

[grapes_of_]

these elite highschools you talk about, do any of their top graduates choose ust for college?

why?

[predo]

these elite highschools you talk about, do any of their top graduates choose ust for college?

why?

my HS is not elitist, but elite in some sense (kasi mga rich *** tlaga ang can afford to enrol their children in an art classes,pro the school prioritizes poor kids), and I say its top-notch..
In my case, (grad of Phil. High School for Arts (PHSA) major in Visual Arts)I chose UST because of their excellent architecture program..I could've entered UP Architecture if I liked (the late Dean Hondrado Hernandez was member of our school's Advicosry Council - and PHSA's Dean prior to his passing - plus I'm waitlisted in Architecture) No regrets, I'm enjoying the prime of my career as Design Architect here in Hongkong..
my other classmates, they chose either Ateneo or UP...in 2001, the
Nationwide UP System's Valedictorian was my classmate in HS..her course, though, is music, major in piano....
btw, there were only 23 of us in our H.S. batch :)

[mikki_pretty]

hehe.. puro science high schools ah... *** bang nde? i mean, exclude na naten yung mga science schools.. galing naman **** nila e..

[HARE]

I think it has to be not only good in acads but has strong sports program too...and of course diversified population, yun ang pinaka importante

[attyatlast]

Siyempre ang highschool na pinagaralan ni NINOY Aquino ang isa sa magaling na highschool sa Pilipinas.saan nga ba yun???????Go Red cubs!!!!!!:rotflmao:

[alex010101]

City of Mandaluyong Science High School

pamention lang. : )

[la_flash]

@ la flash
He is batch 1999! his colleague Neil Tristan won the Battle of The Brains twice in a row


Oh I see... di na ako mag-cocomment kung nakalaban ko na siya
o hindi sa mga quiz shows dati... mapaghahalata ang edad ko... :rotflmao;

[-=+cZaRiNa+=-]

yung school ko, hindi Science high school pero yung curriculum namin ay science oriented. 2 pa nga entrance exams namin para makapasok sa science class. may stipend din kami. siguro BCNHS ang best national high school sa buong pilipinas.

What school?

-----

You are the Way the Truth and the Life
We live by faith and not by sight for You
We're living all for You

[-=+cZaRiNa+=-]

kahit na colegio san agustin ako,

WALANG AANGAL:ang mga pinakamatatalinong tao sa pilipinas nasa philippine science highschool. they have an 'IQ cut' there of 120(?)-->somewhere there.

kapag lower than 120(somewhere there) ang IQ mo, di ka makakapasok kahit anong gawin mo.
Ganun? Sa school namin, normal lang ang nakakakuha ng 120-130. And I think, hindi pa sila ganun katalino.:glee: Ako naman, 110 lang.:mecry::mecry:

-----

You are the Way the Truth and the Life
We live by faith and not by sight for You
We're living all for You

[-=+cZaRiNa+=-]

Science High School rocks!:rocker:

:glee:

-----

You are the Way the Truth and the Life
We live by faith and not by sight for You
We're living all for You

[starczamora]

St. Jude School (which is near Malacanang). It consistently tops nationwide assessment exams among private schools.

My school back in high school, meanwhile, was satisfied in its top 20 finish among private schools back in our time (ewan ko lang ngayon).

[bankereconomist]

PUBLIC
?

SCIENCE HS
Philippine Science HS
Manila Science HS
Regional Science HS

PRIVATE
Ateneo Highschool
La Salle Greenhills
Letran Highschool

International
?

[clawed_out]

Where is Regional Science High?

I'd pick Xavier High over Letran, in fact I'd pick Lourdes School of Mandaluyong over Letran High. even UST high.

Just my preference.

Then there's Brent & ISM.

[bankereconomist]

Regional Science Highschool OLONGAPO City
School of the first Digital LG Quiz champion.
Brian Lagason won over Manila Science and La Salle Greenhills

[ccass]

Ano na ba ang nai-contribute ng mga graduates ng sinasabi ninyong school na yan sa bansa natin? Oh, by the way, Phil. Science HS as far as I know, while enjoying the tag of being the best high school in the Phils. is notoriously known to be a breeding ground for future "badings". So kung lalaki ang anak mo and super talino, think twice before sending your kid there. Just let him pass the screening process so he'll have some bragging rights but...sending your son there....nooooo!!!

[janno_nievera]

MSHS is relatively new pero maayos din diyan! Na-share ko lang. ;)

http://www.makatiscience.edu.ph/index.html

[Dacs]

Ang daming MSHS ah. May Manila, Muntinlupa at Makati!

[d00mednow]

Regional Science Highschool OLONGAPO City
School of the first Digital LG Quiz champion.
Brian Lagason won over Manila Science and La Salle Greenhills

Brian won because of luck. That was a tight race until the end.

Nevertheless, I still believe that MaSci is still the best school in the Philippines... :lol:

[bankereconomist]

yes he won over manila science because of luck.

[LeoNell_Mercado]

No biases:


1. International School Manila
2. Brent International School
3. Philippine Science High school

4. La Salle Greenhills/De La Salle-Zobel/UP-Integrated School/Xavier School/ICA/Ateneo/Poveda/Woodrose/Southville/Manila Science/Assumption/CSA/St.Scho/Miriam/Southville

[bankereconomist]

^ THES ka ba? hehehe joke lang!!!

Ilan ba ang brent sa Philippines?

[commoner]

Malayo ang Brent sa ISM, ang ISM tumatanggap ng mga sipa ng xavier.

The new intriguing international school is the British School of Manila (BSM) which has sky high tuition fees like Brent.

1. Brent
2. Philippine Science
3. Xavier, ICA, Ateneo, UPIS, LSGH, DLSZ, Assumption, ISM
4. Other science high schools
5. Others

[d00mednow]

Malayo ang Brent sa ISM, ang ISM tumatanggap ng mga sipa ng xavier.

The new intriguing international school is the British School of Manila (BSM) which has sky high tuition fees like Brent.

1. Brent
2. Philippine Science
3. Xavier, ICA, Ateneo, UPIS, LSGH, DLSZ, Assumption, ISM
4. Other science high schools
5. Others


Talaga lang ah? :lol:

[janno_nievera]

Ang daming MSHS ah. May Manila, Muntinlupa at Makati!

Oo nga eh. :lol:
May marikina pa!

[LeoNell_Mercado]

Malayo ang Brent sa ISM, ang ISM tumatanggap ng mga sipa ng xavier.

The new intriguing international school is the British School of Manila (BSM) which has sky high tuition fees like Brent.

1. Brent
2. Philippine Science
3. Xavier, ICA, Ateneo, UPIS, LSGH, DLSZ, Assumption, ISM
4. Other science high schools
5. Others

What a funny anecdotal experience... ISM serving like a trush bin for Xavier rejects....... well, given your reputation in pex, i'm not amazed anymore that you can afford to post such a comment. the thing is, would the parents guyfeel comfortable for that decisin given ISM's high tuition........

[2002-17545]

for me, ranking ko is:

1. Manila Science HS
2. Philippine Science HS
3. Other Science HS
Tapos *** mga sikat na private na like Poveda, ICA, Ateneo, Xavier, etc.

=)

[commoner]

What a funny anecdotal experience... ISM serving like a trush bin for Xavier rejects....... well, given your reputation in pex, i'm not amazed anymore that you can afford to post such a comment. the thing is, would the parents guyfeel comfortable for that decisin given ISM's high tuition........

im not the school admin who accepted my batchmates who were kicked out. don't ask me. if you doubt me, no problem.

if i can afford to pay ISM's tuition, id rather go to Brent.

For the love of god, CSA is not on the same level as Ateneo, LSGH, DLSZ, AC, ICA and Xavier. i'd place them a notch lower together with don bosco, st. paul, st. scho, miriam, etc.

my suggestion is for you to go around and survey how much (in percentage) of each 'top' private school annual graduating class actually pass ADMU, DLSU, UP and top schools abroad.


PS: i have a reputation already? i've been just pexing for a few months. how amazing. :rotflmao:

[LeoNell_Mercado]

^ trust me, a two month old nick with 945 posts would be enough to build a "reputation". :lol:


my suggestion is for you to go around and survey how much (in percentage) of each 'top' private school annual graduating class actually pass ADMU, DLSU, UP and top schools abroad.

All those private schools i listed have good representation at UP, which i think is the only thing that matters here given it's reputation as the most selective university. ADMU is not that selective. It only has 11k applicants and it accepts about 1/3 of them. The yield is a poor 46%.

[fret18]

Whatever you guys say, one fact remains the same: a Filipino high school diploma (mapa-Pisay or Ateneo pa man yan) won't get you into any university in Europe. You have to have more than that.

[LeoNell_Mercado]

That's why I ranked all international schools on top of the top echelons because of that reason.

but amazingly, the vale of Pisay a couple of years ago got into MIT (the one in the US ha). I have not heard someone from ateneo high got accepted in US or UK schools.

[fret18]

The US recognizes the Philippine high school system. I got accepted by New York University but chose to study in an American university in Europe instead.

[la_flash]

It is irrelevant to talk about "getting into a reputable university abroad" in this thread.

Moving on... MaSci is still the best high school in the Philippines... :lol:

[pumpysworld]

If by "best" you mean staff pay, benefits, and credentials, ratio of staff to students, average class size, type and quality of instructional materials (including textbooks, expensive video and audio materials, etc.), library size and quality of volumes, existence of expensive evaluation tools and curricula (like AP and CK programs), and so on, then I'd say one of the international schools.

If you are referring to student selectivity, average student scores in national or international exams, etc., then one can't tell because that changes from SY to SY.

[ethereal_blue]

Philippine Science Highschool na yan. pugad ng mga halimaw sa math chem at physics. *** mga classmates ko sa UPD basta phisci galing 1 take lang *** mga subj na to..

[followyoudown]

That's why I ranked all international schools on top of the top echelons because of that reason.

but amazingly, the vale of Pisay a couple of years ago got into MIT (the one in the US ha). I have not heard someone from ateneo high got accepted in US or UK schools.

Look up Paco Caparas. He was from AHS, he went to Harvard.

Heck, let's look beyond AHS. Look up Eric John Paredes and Steven Camiña. Both are from Southridge. EJ is in Yale, Steven is in MIT.

Marco Villacorta is also from AHS. Casey Lim from XS. They're both at UPenn. Not to mention that Casey was also accepted by MIT.

Roxanne Paredes graduated from Woodrose. She's at Brown University.

Well, anyway. I think I've proved my point. Moral of the story? Do your research before making sweeping statements.

And oh, btw, there's more than one PSHS alum who's at MIT.

[Ace_Kn|ghT_9]

PSHS pa din.. No doubt.. ;)

[Bazooka_Joe]

LSGH is one of the best. agree, LeoNell_Mercado? :D

[la_flash]

PSHS pa din.. No doubt.. ;)

Ako, may doubt... joke :lol:

[mac04]

Any Science HS and CKSC.. :)

Other choices:

La Salle Greenhills..
De La Salle- Zobel..
Ateneo High..
UPIS..
Southville..

[dfntlyme]

im not the school admin who accepted my batchmates who were kicked out. don't ask me. if you doubt me, no problem.

if i can afford to pay ISM's tuition, id rather go to Brent.

For the love of god, CSA is not on the same level as Ateneo, LSGH, DLSZ, AC, ICA and Xavier. i'd place them a notch lower together with don bosco, st. paul, st. scho, miriam, etc.

my suggestion is for you to go around and survey how much (in percentage) of each 'top' private school annual graduating class actually pass ADMU, DLSU, UP and top schools abroad.


PS: i have a reputation already? i've been just pexing for a few months. how amazing. :rotflmao:


CSA not in the level of Ateneo, LSGH and the like??? Who are you trying to kid? CSA is known to be one of the best high schools in the country, year in and year out, they actually have to turn down a number of prospective students simply because its population is booming...you think all these parents (including ambassadors, the elite and government officials) are wasting their time placing their kids in a school that can't go mano y mano with your aforementioned schools? Give me a break...

Hater much? I sense an Augustinian Kick-out in the air....

[icedvanilla]

syempre Pisay...hehehe proud Pisay '01 here! :rotflmao:

Magaling din anG Masci (lalo na sa mga contests)...

Bilib ako sa Chiang Kai pag math...

Sa mga provinces, wala ako masyado alam eh....

Go Pisay!

[la_flash]

syempre Pisay...hehehe proud Pisay '01 here! :rotflmao:

Magaling din anG Masci (lalo na sa mga contests)...

Bilib ako sa Chiang Kai pag math...

Sa mga provinces, wala ako masyado alam eh....

Go Pisay!

Have you met any MaScians? Magagaling talaga sila... :lol:

[la_flash]

Teka lang, bakit na-ban si LeoNell ? :glee:

[followyoudown]

CSA not in the level of Ateneo, LSGH and the like??? Who are you trying to kid? CSA is known to be one of the best high schools in the country, year in and year out, they actually have to turn down a number of prospective students simply because its population is booming...you think all these parents (including ambassadors, the elite and government officials) are wasting their time placing their kids in a school that can't go mano y mano with your aforementioned schools? Give me a break...

Hater much? I sense an Augustinian Kick-out in the air....

I graduated from CSA. And I was definitely never at risk of being kicked out.

And I want to clarify something: CSA used to be one of the best high schools in the country, academically speaking, at least.

What happened? Many of their best teachers left to teach in the US.

Not to mention that the curriculum is sorely lacking. CSA Sciences are way behind DLSZ's. The English curriculum is way behind AC's. The Math curriculum is behind Ateneo's.

Fine, call me a hater. I do sort of honestly wish that I was able to go to a better high school. But know this, my opinions do have sound, reasonable basis.

[followyoudown]

And oh, just to clarify, even if I don't think CSA is a very good school, I wouldn't put it in the same league as Don Bosco. Maybe above.

I mean, even some of Don Bosco's top students didn't pass the ACET, for crying out loud.

[icedvanilla]

Have you met any MaScians? Magagaling talaga sila... :lol:

Yep, i have met many Mascians...and they are Good... though iba ang programming sa kanila eh... mdyo competitive, especially yung mga pang contest na students...

And coming from Masci Alumni themselves, the quality of the education and the students are declining now...

[la_flash]

Yep, i have met many Mascians...and they are Good... though iba ang programming sa kanila eh... mdyo competitive, especially yung mga pang contest na students...

And coming from Masci Alumni themselves, the quality of the education and the students are declining now...

Really? MaSci is on the decline? :eek: Kailan pa?

Well, if we are going to base MaSci's performance in the previous manila-wide competitions, maybe, just maybe, there's truth to that. MaSci was not able to dominate competition as it used to do (i.e. MTAP and Science Quiz).

[green_phlegm]

I have not heard someone from ateneo high got accepted in US or UK schools.


John Nye- ADMU HS Valedictorian, Caltech, Majors: Physics and Lit, Graduated with honors - Ito alam ko dahil ang kapatid niya yung ogag na si David Nye.

Now you've heard of at least one. There are others. Just look at the valedictorian/salutatorian list of ADMU HS and there are sure to be many. Meron ding mga Peyups na profs galing ADMU HS at nag-aral sa USA/UK. Of course marami ring ganyan sa ibang schools, di lang Pisay.

[dagitab24]

Really? MaSci is on the decline? :eek: Kailan pa?

Well, if we are going to base MaSci's performance in the previous manila-wide competitions, maybe, just maybe, there's truth to that. MaSci was not able to dominate competition as it used to do (i.e. MTAP and Science Quiz).


I've heard that MaSci has gone down ever since Banta retired. A colorful fellow (literally), that Banta. My friends from MaSci used to call her "Rodman", after her ever-changing hair color. But she had this competitive spirit -- "Matalo na kayo sa iba, 'wag lang sa Pisay!". The year I took the NSAT (1998), we placed 2nd to them. The only other time we were not on top was when Xavier took first place in (forgot which year... 1994?).

Same with PSHS under Dr. Miranda. I've heard not a few reports of corruption under his administration, not to mention the quality of students accepted. A former classmate of mine (PSHS-Diliman '99) who taught Math there lamented that she had 3rd-year students who didn't know how to add fractions. Sad.

Still, I have faith in these two schools. Our vale, as mentioned in another thread, went to MIT. Others went to NUS, West Point, UCLA, etc. And Pisay's facilities are among the best in the country. The labs are well-stocked, and athletic facilities (a field, a gymnasium, a pool, and bowling lanes) are top-notch. Just don't go anywhere near the creek. :D

MaSci, on the other hand, is going through an extensive rebuilding program. Since it is under the Division of City Schools, it has to depend on DepEd and City of Manila funds, plus the occasional donation by a politico. For example, a "Maceda Hall" has been built on the old, pockmarked basketball court where Alvin Patrimonio developed his game.

[la_flash]

I've heard that MaSci has gone down ever since Banta retired. A colorful fellow (literally), that Banta. My friends from MaSci used to call her "Rodman", after her ever-changing hair color. But she had this competitive spirit -- "Matalo na kayo sa iba, 'wag lang sa Pisay!". The year I took the NSAT (1998), we placed 2nd to them. The only other time we were not on top was when Xavier took first place in (forgot which year... 1994?).

Same with PSHS under Dr. Miranda. I've heard not a few reports of corruption under his administration, not to mention the quality of students accepted. A former classmate of mine (PSHS-Diliman '99) who taught Math there lamented that she had 3rd-year students who didn't know how to add fractions. Sad.

Still, I have faith in these two schools. Our vale, as mentioned in another thread, went to MIT. Others went to NUS, West Point, UCLA, etc. And Pisay's facilities are among the best in the country. The labs are well-stocked, and athletic facilities (a field, a gymnasium, a pool, and bowling lanes) are top-notch. Just don't go anywhere near the creek. :D

MaSci, on the other hand, is going through an extensive rebuilding program. Since it is under the Division of City Schools, it has to depend on DepEd and City of Manila funds, plus the occasional donation by a politico. For example, a "Maceda Hall" has been built on the old, pockmarked basketball court where Alvin Patrimonio developed his game.

I remember Banta. Di ko sasabihin kung bakit ko siya remember... :lol:

You are right... MaSci was very competitive under Banta. Kudos to her.

[11th_Karma]

buti pa ibang science high schools may stipend... ako nung time ko, all those 4 yeas of my high school life, wala. ***** ba meron nang stipend ang quesci?

[redshirt23]

PACO CATHOLIC SCHOOL

[baboyako]

no doubt about it:
Xavier school
Southridge
Woodrose

[DJQuimby]

Mataas na paaralan ng San Andres Bukid...

[Baller_Boi]

Philippine Science
Ateneo
UPIS
LSGH
DLSZ
San Beda
Xavier

[pumpysworld]

To rank Philippine secondary schools, go to the thread "Rank UAAP Schools" and follow the advice that I posted there.

[KatBlueGurl]

Ateneo High School
Philippine Science High School
San Beda High School
La Salle Greenhills
De La Salle Zobel
Xavier High

[razzp]

I just don't understand why some think that MaSci is better than PhiSci. Can someone explain this to me?

[Dacs]

I graduated from Manila Science, and I have to admit that overall, PSHS is the best (at least in science HS, well... who are we kidding?) HS in the Pinas.

But I do understand where they're getting at. Masci, eventhough technically is NOT a science HS anymore, has a very good reputation and can really produce quality graduates.

Baka may mga naging kaibigan sila na graduates ng Masci, or baka mga nakalaban nila sa mga contests (Masci is very much guilty of sending contestants in every contests imaginable hehe) kaya ganun.

[mj09]

i'll go for Manila Science Highschool*okay*

[la_flash]

I graduated from Manila Science, and I have to admit that overall, PSHS is the best (at least in science HS, well... who are we kidding?) HS in the Pinas.

But I do understand where they're getting at. Masci, eventhough technically is NOT a science HS anymore, has a very good reputation and can really produce quality graduates.

Baka may mga naging kaibigan sila na graduates ng Masci, or baka mga nakalaban nila sa mga contests (Masci is very much guilty of sending contestants in every contests imaginable hehe) kaya ganun.

I have friends who came from MaSci and Pisay, and I think my MaSci friends are better than those in Pisay.

MaSci has a reputation of dominating the competition in every quiz show.

One thing more, MaSci students are diverse... I have competed in different quiz shows and I have seen different faces of MaScian... :bop:

MaSci for me is still the best... :lol:

[GR8_GUY]

Sacred Heart School. :) The best little secret, nice campus too.

http://www.shs-j.net.ph/

[pumpysworld]

Here's one measure for determining quality in high schools:

1. average class size should be 25 (preferably 12 to 15, at least for language classes);

2. there should be at least 80,000 volumes in the library (least for a student population of, say, a thousand), and most volumes should be updated;

3. teacher's should have master's degrees or at least specialized training that is internationally recognized (e.g., they have a high band for IELTS or passed international exams);

4. instructional materials should be recent and of the best quality (e.g., preferably imported textbooks instead of reprints);

5. enough AV and computer learning tools in each classroom or for each class;

6. at least twelve years of education (preferably K-12) with options for Core Knowledge, International Baccalaureate, or Advanced Placement;

7. testing similar to GCSE (A- and O-levels) or the equivalent of SAT, ACT, etc.; testing between school years; and

8. lab equipment, facilities, etc., roughly equivalent to that of an international school.

[razzp]

Here's one measure for determining quality in high schools:

1. average class size should be 25 (preferably 12 to 15, at least for language classes);

2. there should be at least 80,000 volumes in the library (least for a student population of, say, a thousand), and most volumes should be updated;

3. teacher's should have master's degrees or at least specialized training that is internationally recognized (e.g., they have a high band for IELTS or passed international exams);

4. instructional materials should be recent and of the best quality (e.g., preferably imported textbooks instead of reprints);

5. enough AV and computer learning tools in each classroom or for each class;

6. at least twelve years of education (preferably K-12) with options for Core Knowledge, International Baccalaureate, or Advanced Placement;

7. testing similar to GCSE (A- and O-levels) or the equivalent of SAT, ACT, etc.; testing between school years; and

8. lab equipment, facilities, etc., roughly equivalent to that of an international school.


Do you think MaSci outranks PhiSci if we use these indicators?:D

Thanks Dacs for answering my question. ;)

[Dacs]

I don't think so (as far as resources are concerned). Masci is under DepED while Pisay is under DOST. So goodluck with Masci in that regard :D Heck, as far as the above criteria are concerned, Masci won't fare well with most private schools!

That having said, my teachers back in HS are topnotch. I believe some of them have MA/MS degrees as well, and most of them aren't BEED/BSED majors. For instance, my teacher in Chemistry and Physics are BSChem and BSPhysics majors respectively.

To add, the student pool in Masci is good to begin with. Reputation factors in. Parents want their children to enroll in Science HS. And given Masci's history, the choice is not hard to make.

With respect to NSAT ranking, I believe Pisay doesn't always get the top rank, I believe Masci sometimes has it (my batch I believe outranked Pisay) at one point as well.

Is Pisay better than Masci? We'll never know for sure. It all boils down to the students and how they fare in college and in their chosen careers. All I know is that Masci doesn't restrict its students to take up courses outside of S&T, while it's the other way around for Pisay.

One thing is for sure though, UPD Engg is teeming with Pisay and Masci (and other science HS) graduates :rotflmao:

My opinion still stands though, Pisay is better than Masci in my opinion :)

[la_flash]

^^ good analysis... MaScian ka nga... :D

[FerdinandMarcos]

Philippine Science High School
Manila Science High School
San Beda High School
Ateneo High School
Xavier High School
La Salle Greenhills
De La Salle Zobel

[jeune_fille]

Here's one measure for determining quality in high schools:

1. average class size should be 25 (preferably 12 to 15, at least for language classes);

2. there should be at least 80,000 volumes in the library (least for a student population of, say, a thousand), and most volumes should be updated;

3. teacher's should have master's degrees or at least specialized training that is internationally recognized (e.g., they have a high band for IELTS or passed international exams);

4. instructional materials should be recent and of the best quality (e.g., preferably imported textbooks instead of reprints);

5. enough AV and computer learning tools in each classroom or for each class;

6. at least twelve years of education (preferably K-12) with options for Core Knowledge, International Baccalaureate, or Advanced Placement;

7. testing similar to GCSE (A- and O-levels) or the equivalent of SAT, ACT, etc.; testing between school years; and

8. lab equipment, facilities, etc., roughly equivalent to that of an international school.

This criteria reduces subjectivity as much as possible and if I am going to use this to compare PSHS and MSHS, PSHS would score way higher than Masci. Numbers 1,2,4,8 would surely go to PSHS. And the remaining numbers I cannot say who fared better. Hence, PSHS is way better than MSHS, although. Student-wise more or less equal in my opinion.

Hi Dacs anong batch po kayo? :D

[wiremold]

Phil Science HS lang po !
*okay*

[Dacs]

I graduated from Masci more or less 10 years ago :)

[la_flash]

@DACS, I guess batch 95 ka... :glee:

[The MODERATOR.]

Sacred Heart School. :) The best little secret, nice campus too.

http://www.shs-j.net.ph/

Sacred Heart school for boys in Cebu is absolutely a top high school. the vale of class 2000 (Anthony) was a classmate of mine at UP bio. He's now a 2nd yr med proper at UP Manila. The salu, the 2nd honorable mention and the top 8 guys all majored BAA @ UPD. 8 of the top 10 in their class went to UP. One majored PT @ UPM. The top 9 majored Physics with com eng'g @ Ateneo.

[Dacs]

96 po hihi :)

[The MODERATOR.]

Top High Schools in the Philippines


Tier 1:
All international schools ( IS-Manila, IS-Cebu, Brent International Schools, British School Manila)

Tier 2:
Pisay
UP High Schools (IS, Rural-LB and the one is Visayas)
La Salle High schools (Greenhills, Zobel and Antipolo)
Science High Schools (Masay, Qusay, all those in the province)
Chinese Schools (Xavier, Uno, Grace, St. Stephens, ICA, St. Jude)
Elite all Girl's (Woodrose, Poveda, St. Scho antipolo & Manila, St. paul's pasig & QC)


3rd Tier:
Ateneo
Claret
San Beda Manila & Alabang
Southridge
Southville

[poetspeak]

Yeah! Saint Stephen's High School rock!
bow.

[narutrix]

went to paco catholic school, it was good, but i think schools mentioned above are better

[poetspeak]

assessment for chinese schools... since dito ako naka categorize..
English-xavier, st. jude, Makati Hope and MGC New Life
Math- Chiang Kai Shek College and UNO
Science- Xavier and St. Stephen
Computer- St. Stephen
Chinese Subjects..- UNO, St. JUde

Pero i suggest na sa Christian school kayo magpunta... para mas maganda ang training sa faith.. here are the list:
St. Stephen
Hope Christian HS (manila)
Makati Hope Christian
Grace Christian
MGC New Life

[la_flash]

96 po hihi :)

aba, matanong nga kita sa kilala ko from batch 96... :lol:

Gold medalist ka DACS?

[pumpysworld]

Given the fact that the factors that you indicate involve a lot of money, if PSHS charges tuition as high as that of international schools, then you are probably right.

This criteria reduces subjectivity as much as possible and if I am going to use this to compare PSHS and MSHS, PSHS would score way higher than Masci. Numbers 1,2,4,8 would surely go to PSHS. And the remaining numbers I cannot say who fared better. Hence, PSHS is way better than MSHS, although. Student-wise more or less equal in my opinion.

Hi Dacs anong batch po kayo? :D

[Bri'sAnna]

Brian won because of luck. That was a tight race until the end.

Nevertheless, I still believe that MaSci is still the best school in the Philippines... :lol:

I beg to disagree. Brian did not win just because of luck. It is because he is good. The race was tight because they are all good. But Brian Lagason is better.=)

[la_flash]

I beg to disagree. Brian did not win just because of luck. It is because he is good. The race was tight because they are all good. But Brian Lagason is better.=)

Nope, it was just a matter of pressing that button faster than the others :D... so it may not only be luck, but reflex action as well :D

[Kolmogorov]

I'm a Masci alumnus and I agree that in most ways, Pisay is better than Masci especially in terms of facilities and funding. The only advantage of studying in Masci is you can get a free quality education pero hindi ka required kumuha ng science and technology courses in college. So kung gusto mo mag Fine Arts after high school, suportahan ta ka!:rotflmao:

But still, marami rin namang Mascians and Pisay grads na napariwara nung college or nagshift out (just like my Pisay blockmates) and even failed the Basic College Algebra course (Math 17). Some attribute it to overconfidence since we did have advanced math courses in high school at feel namin panis na lang ang math sa college


On a lighter side, pag pinag-aral mo ang anak mo sa Masci/Pisay tapos nagbulakbol nung college, at least di ka lugi masyado, unlike pag pinagaral mo sa Ateneo/LSGH/Woodrose/Assumption etc tapos nagbulakbol rin.:bop:

[Bri'sAnna]

Nope, it was just a matter of pressing that button faster than the others :D... so it may not only be luck, but reflex action as well :D

It's not just a matter of pressing the button faster. Kahit na pindot ka ng pindot kung hindi mo naman alam yung sagot, wala rin.:rotflmao: Magaling lang talaga siya. Mabilis pang pumindot! Saan ka pa!:bop:

[la_flash]

It's not just a matter of pressing the button faster. Kahit na pindot ka ng pindot kung hindi mo naman alam yung sagot, wala rin.:rotflmao: Magaling lang talaga siya. Mabilis pang pumindot! Saan ka pa!:bop:

Nakita mo ba si Brian at the end of the contest. He was just so relieved that he was able to answer the question ahead of MaSci. Pinagpawisan nga ang manok mo eh. Iyong MaSci medyo nanghinayang nang kaunti dahil naunahan siya.

I dare them both to take a battery of tests para magkaalaman na. :D

[angelface49]

can anyone post the results of NSAT (top 10) for the last 5 or 10 years?

[dagitab24]

Nakita mo ba si Brian at the end of the contest. He was just so relieved that he was able to answer the question ahead of MaSci. Pinagpawisan nga ang manok mo eh. Iyong MaSci medyo nanghinayang nang kaunti dahil naunahan siya.

I dare them both to take a battery of tests para magkaalaman na. :D

I know that Brian Lagason guy personally. He was in Pisay until 3rd year, then transferred to Regional Science. Laging tambay sa dorm room namin 'yan noong 4th year ako ('98-99), because we had a roommate who was of the same batch as his ('01). Papetix-petix lang siya dati. Pero matalino.

[dagitab24]

Given the fact that the factors that you indicate involve a lot of money, if PSHS charges tuition as high as that of international schools, then you are probably right.



Actually, it's all subsidized by the DOST budget. However, the PTA during my time estimated the cost of a year's tuition and fees in Pisay. In 1999 terms, it would amount to PhP 45,000, more or less. Hindi pa kasama ang stipends doon.

[Bri'sAnna]

I know that Brian Lagason guy personally. He was in Pisay until 3rd year, then transferred to Regional Science. Laging tambay sa dorm room namin 'yan noong 4th year ako ('98-99), because we had a roommate who was of the same batch as his ('01). Papetix-petix lang siya dati. Pero matalino.

TRUE! Petix-petix mode pero talagang magaling at maraming alam. I should know.:bashful: He's is really good. I think, wala naman duda yun. Forte niya kasi yun. General Information.;)

[la_flash]

I know that Brian Lagason guy personally. He was in Pisay until 3rd year, then transferred to Regional Science. Laging tambay sa dorm room namin 'yan noong 4th year ako ('98-99), because we had a roommate who was of the same batch as his ('01). Papetix-petix lang siya dati. Pero matalino.

Mukha naman siyang papetix-petix lang eh... sa unang tingin ko pa lang.
The one from MaSci is also cool, and very tranquil... parang lumindol na at lahat pero cool pa rin...

Actually, both guys are good. That's one of the best finals in a quiz show that i've seen so far. :D

[-=+cZaRiNa+=-]

TRUE! Petix-petix mode pero talagang magaling at maraming alam. I should know.:bashful: He's is really good. I think, wala naman duda yun. Forte niya kasi yun. General Information.;)

Girlfriend ka ba niya? Wala lang.:)

[Jeffreyw]

Science highs and State-owned Highs i think are the best High Schools in the country.

[Bri'sAnna]

Girlfriend ka ba niya? Wala lang.:)

May bias ba?Hehe!:bashful: He is really good.*okay**okay* *okay*

[bankereconomist]

Mukha naman siyang papetix-petix lang eh... sa unang tingin ko pa lang.
The one from MaSci is also cool, and very tranquil... parang lumindol na at lahat pero cool pa rin...

Actually, both guys are good. That's one of the best finals in a quiz show that i've seen so far. :D

Ano ang degree ni Brian Lagason?

[razzer_infinity]

gosh MPPA gosh

[la_flash]

Ano ang degree ni Brian Lagason?

I actually don't know... :D

[jeune_fille]

According to my batchmates, Brian wasn't able to finish his course in UP. He was a wait-lister in UP Manila and was accepted as a BioChemistry student. :)

[Boo1607]

I think it's San Beda College (HS). Hehe.

[bankereconomist]

According to my batchmates, Brian wasn't able to finish his course in UP. He was a wait-lister in UP Manila and was accepted as a BioChemistry student. :)

my friend told me that he is woking in a call center so i wonder why?.

[BrianLagason]

Brian won because of luck. That was a tight race until the end.

Nevertheless, I still believe that MaSci is still the best school in the Philippines... :lol:

I respect your opinion. In fact I agree that luck had something to do with it. After all, out of how many possible questions they could ask, they chose questions that I could answer quite a few of. However, to ascribe it to just luck is wrong. Give a guy his props, will you? It was a tight race till the end, yes. Mark Lim was good. But to imbue causality to luck is just bad form. As they say, chance favors the prepared mind.

[BrianLagason]

Nope, it was just a matter of pressing that button faster than the others :D... so it may not only be luck, but reflex action as well :D

Luck played a factor, and so did reflexes. But like I said, there is more to it than timing and luck. Slightly more to it than that.

[BrianLagason]

Nakita mo ba si Brian at the end of the contest. He was just so relieved that he was able to answer the question ahead of MaSci. Pinagpawisan nga ang manok mo eh. Iyong MaSci medyo nanghinayang nang kaunti dahil naunahan siya.

I dare them both to take a battery of tests para magkaalaman na. :D

Yes I was relieved at the end of the contest, la_flash. Who wouldn't be, if they were in my shoes? It was for me, after all, the culmination of years of dreaming. It was vindication for me, after all the times people told me I just couldn't. It was a wonderful feeling to overcome adversity. I was elated and relieved. And it was a relief to have been done with it. Pagod na pagod din ako nun. Imagine, wala pang 9 AM nandun na kami, tapos gabi na natapos. Galing pa nga ako from a bout with chickenpox. Hindi ka ba mapapagod nun? May point nga na napapaupo na ako sa sahig sa pagod. As for being relieved na I was able to answer the question ahead of MaSci's Mark Lim, I think it would be more proper to say na I was relieved to be able to answer the question. If memory serves me correctly, the last question I answered was a Digital Edge question. And back then, Digital Edge questions were answerable only by those who 'uncovered' them. Mark would not be able to answer. That was the second to the last question. The last question, nobody was able to answer. Pinagpawisan ba ang manok niya? Yeah, you bet. I'll agree that Mark was good. Which is more than what some people think of me. Imagine someone saying that *cough cough* I won because I 'needed the money more.' Whether I needed it or not is beside the point. If it all boiled down to need, wouldn't some urchin on the street have been better served winning the Digital LG Quiz? :)
In addition, why not give a girlfriend space to be proud of her man? I believe she's not stepping on anyone else's toes here. ;) ;)

[BrianLagason]

I know that Brian Lagason guy personally. He was in Pisay until 3rd year, then transferred to Regional Science. Laging tambay sa dorm room namin 'yan noong 4th year ako ('98-99), because we had a roommate who was of the same batch as his ('01). Papetix-petix lang siya dati. Pero matalino.

Gamis? Gary? Tulod? Urk? Hmmm, sino ka kaya? Hmm, yeah, tambay-tambay ako sa rooms ng juniors and seniors nun. Miss dorm life... :D

[BrianLagason]

Girlfriend ka ba niya? Wala lang.:)

Yes, she is. :)

[BrianLagason]

Ano ang degree ni Brian Lagason?

Wala pa akong degree.

[BrianLagason]

According to my batchmates, Brian wasn't able to finish his course in UP. He was a wait-lister in UP Manila and was accepted as a BioChemistry student. :)

Your batchmates are correct. For now. Hope that doesn't make me a lesser mortal in some peoples' eyes. Wait-lister? Hmm, I take it that's the state where you didn't pass the requirements for your chosen course at UP? If that is true, then, yes, I was a wait-lister. It wouldn't be too far-fetched, given my high school grades. However, I did not have to 'wait'. But that's another story. And no, my saying that high school had something to do with it is no excuse. Was merely adding details. Yes I was accepted as a Biochemistry student. You have good sources. Any other Brian Lagason stories? ;)

[BrianLagason]

my friend told me that he is woking in a call center so i wonder why?.

Your friend is correct. I am in a call center. For now. Why? Because being a DJ on radio pays less. Hahaha. Kidding. Was pulling your leg there. Hmmm, there's a grain of truth to the 'pay' part. Call centers, on average, do pay better than most other entry-level jobs in other industries. And in addition to that, working in a call center often gives more benefits and grants the employee greater flexibility over his time. Is it a dream job? No. But I've learned quite a few things I wouldn't have learned elsewhere. In addition to that, I went to the call centers because the call centers offer anonymity. To most people, I am just a voice over the phone. And I like it that way. Far better than having people tell stories or speculate about me. Hindi ako isda sa fishbowl. Tao ako. Would you like it if people speculated why you chose a job you did? How would you feel if people you barely know from Adam discussed why you hadn't finished school? Would you be happy if people denigrated your achievements or your character? I know my posts are way off topic. To steer it back, let me just say that Philippine Science High gets my vote.

[-=+cZaRiNa+=-]

Yes, she is. :)

So Anna [the PExer I asked] is your girlfriend? :)

[BrianLagason]

So Anna [the PExer I asked] is your girlfriend? :)

Yes. She is.:)

[-=+cZaRiNa+=-]

Yes. She is.:)

I see. Thanks for answering my questions.
:)

[londelmonte]

PAREF Southridge!

spiritual formation at its finest! and i think it is the most important factor! maybe you won't appreciate what im saying, but for those who studied in any PAREF school will surely agree! *okay*

in honor of Saint Josemaria Escriva! :)

[dagitab24]

:D Gamis? Gary? Tulod? Urk? Hmmm, sino ka kaya? Hmm, yeah, tambay-tambay ako sa rooms ng juniors and seniors nun. Miss dorm life... :D

Clue: 1) Kilala sa pangalang J*pis. 2) Roommate ko si Ilagan. 3) Tsaka si Lord Raptor. :D

Hep, hep. Don't say (type?) my name out loud here. PM mo na lang ako if you know who I am.

[PlutotDinugoan]

ATENEO HIGH SCHOOL - THE School where BEAUTY AND BRIGHTNESS CONVERGED. :)

[bluethehero]

I think it's San Beda College (HS). Hehe.

i second the motion :D

[la_flash]

Luck played a factor, and so did reflexes. But like I said, there is more to it than timing and luck. Slightly more to it than that.

Yikes, ikaw ba talaga si Brian?

Ows?

Really?

Sige nga... ano iyong last question? :lol:

2nd question, ano ang name ni dagitab? :naughty:

[BrianLagason]

Yikes, ikaw ba talaga si Brian?

Ows?

Really?

Sige nga... ano iyong last question? :lol:

2nd question, ano ang name ni dagitab? :naughty:

Yikes ba? Di ako si Godzilla. Wala ren naman akong ketong, AFAIK.

The question? If memory serves me correctly, it would be...
Q: The woodcut of which highly revered Spanish saint appeared on the cover of the Doctrina Cristiana?
A: St. Dominic or Santo Domingo
Palagay ko naman tama yan, di ko pa naman kailangan ng Enervon Prime. :lol:

Kahit ibang tao na napanuod yung episode na yun masasagot tanong mo, la_flash.

As for dagitab's name, I believe he wouldn't want it posted here. See post # 183*okay*

[keymaker]

When it comes to math I think the chinese schools are better than pisay and MaSci. Here's an excerpt from an article I found here http://www.math.ecnu.edu.cn/earcome3/RL/5%20Nebres_Leechua_RL().doc

" Why? Dr. Marasigan reports that many of the IMO winners come from Chinese- Filipino schools, and indeed, in most universities, they disproportionately perform better. A recent spate of cross-cultural comparisons attests to the predominance of East Asians (notably Stevenson & Stigler, 1992). We stress here that such performance is not so much genetic or hereditary, but instead can be attributed to certain beliefs, traditions, and practices, such as the following:

More learning time. The amount of time spent learning math in Chinese-Filipino schools is practically double. Why? In Chiang Kai Shek Grade School and High School, Grace Christian High School, and other prominent institutions, students have two math classes per day: one conducted in English, the other in Chinese. They are presented with the same concepts, but taught in different ways and different languages, which can only augment learning. Moreover, in math, practice makes perfect, and it does not take a math whiz to figure out the comparative advantage when these extra hours are multiplied by at least ten years (elementary and high school combined). Not surprisingly, Stevenson and Herbert find that the school year in Japan and Taiwan is longer than that of the US, with more time devoted to academics (1999).

Pattern recognition. These may exist similarities in pattern recognition of Chinese characters and math symbols. Both seem abstract to the English-bred reader, and forced memorization of Chinese figures at a young age may predispose the child to recognize and retain other symbols later on. (In fact, an interesting reason cited by some US researchers concerning the superior performance of Indochinese and Korean immigrants in US math courses is that math symbols do not depend on prior knowledge of English.) Some Chinese-Filipino students in our problem-solving class admit that they reframe and address certain questions in “ways taught in Chinese math class.”

Peer influence. Peers who are good in math and science are admired as scholastic role models (“math wizards,” in the language of the young). It is no accident that many IMO participants are culled from the same high schools, and younger aspirants cite alumni as inspirations. Those who do well not only are featured in school papers, but in national dailies as well, and with scholarship offers from abroad, they are looked up to by their peers. MTG reports that some schools consistently produce winners year after year, with friendly rivalry at times, thus establishing a tradition of excellence in these institutions. In non-Chinese schools, the campus idols are usually sports heroes.

Confucian tradition. The Confucian tradition of learning, though not as strong in the Philippines as in many parts of Asia, is still adhered to by older-generation Chinese immigrants, who believe that hard work and discipline are the key to success in a new world. There are popular anecdotes about Chinese-Filipino business tycoons who have sacrificed and suffered a lot to achieve success. Education is valued highly by parents, who often supervise their own children’s learning at home (compared to Filipino middle-class parents, who hire professional tutors). Instead of spending time on extracurricular activities such as sports or arts, Chinese-Filipino students traditionally concentrate on math, science and business. (There are of course exceptions, and times have changed today, with more options for the Chinese-Filipinos.) "

[razzer_infinity]

^gosh in fairness nung panahon ko sa MPPA gosh nanalo kami over sa PCHS, Chia kai shek whatever the spelling school, grace christian chuva etc. yun nga lang reserve lang ako, gosh, of course di ko naman forte ang math muse lang nila ako sa competition para gosh, mabaliw ang ibang contestant sa pagtitig over sa akin, well i guess that's the secret why we won over the tsinoys, gosh QED :lol:

[la_flash]

Yikes ba? Di ako si Godzilla. Wala ren naman akong ketong, AFAIK.

The question? If memory serves me correctly, it would be...
Q: The woodcut of which highly revered Spanish saint appeared on the cover of the Doctrina Cristiana?
A: St. Dominic or Santo Domingo
Palagay ko naman tama yan, di ko pa naman kailangan ng Enervon Prime. :lol:

Kahit ibang tao na napanuod yung episode na yun masasagot tanong mo, la_flash.

As for dagitab's name, I believe he wouldn't want it posted here. See post # 183*okay*

Wow... galing-galing... but i have my doubts pa rin. :lol:

Alternick mo lang ba yan? How did you know about PEX...

Hahaha... OT na ako. :glee:

[la_flash]

When it comes to math I think the chinese schools are better than pisay and MaSci. Here's an excerpt from an article I found here http://www.math.ecnu.edu.cn/earcome3/RL/5%20Nebres_Leechua_RL().doc

" Why? Dr. Marasigan reports that many of the IMO winners come from Chinese- Filipino schools, and indeed, in most universities, they disproportionately perform better. A recent spate of cross-cultural comparisons attests to the predominance of East Asians (notably Stevenson & Stigler, 1992). We stress here that such performance is not so much genetic or hereditary, but instead can be attributed to certain beliefs, traditions, and practices, such as the following:

More learning time. The amount of time spent learning math in Chinese-Filipino schools is practically double. Why? In Chiang Kai Shek Grade School and High School, Grace Christian High School, and other prominent institutions, students have two math classes per day: one conducted in English, the other in Chinese. They are presented with the same concepts, but taught in different ways and different languages, which can only augment learning. Moreover, in math, practice makes perfect, and it does not take a math whiz to figure out the comparative advantage when these extra hours are multiplied by at least ten years (elementary and high school combined). Not surprisingly, Stevenson and Herbert find that the school year in Japan and Taiwan is longer than that of the US, with more time devoted to academics (1999).

Pattern recognition. These may exist similarities in pattern recognition of Chinese characters and math symbols. Both seem abstract to the English-bred reader, and forced memorization of Chinese figures at a young age may predispose the child to recognize and retain other symbols later on. (In fact, an interesting reason cited by some US researchers concerning the superior performance of Indochinese and Korean immigrants in US math courses is that math symbols do not depend on prior knowledge of English.) Some Chinese-Filipino students in our problem-solving class admit that they reframe and address certain questions in “ways taught in Chinese math class.”

Peer influence. Peers who are good in math and science are admired as scholastic role models (“math wizards,” in the language of the young). It is no accident that many IMO participants are culled from the same high schools, and younger aspirants cite alumni as inspirations. Those who do well not only are featured in school papers, but in national dailies as well, and with scholarship offers from abroad, they are looked up to by their peers. MTG reports that some schools consistently produce winners year after year, with friendly rivalry at times, thus establishing a tradition of excellence in these institutions. In non-Chinese schools, the campus idols are usually sports heroes.

Confucian tradition. The Confucian tradition of learning, though not as strong in the Philippines as in many parts of Asia, is still adhered to by older-generation Chinese immigrants, who believe that hard work and discipline are the key to success in a new world. There are popular anecdotes about Chinese-Filipino business tycoons who have sacrificed and suffered a lot to achieve success. Education is valued highly by parents, who often supervise their own children’s learning at home (compared to Filipino middle-class parents, who hire professional tutors). Instead of spending time on extracurricular activities such as sports or arts, Chinese-Filipino students traditionally concentrate on math, science and business. (There are of course exceptions, and times have changed today, with more options for the Chinese-Filipinos.) "

In general, yes I agree. I hope someone here has a link on the past winners of MTAP competition (regional).

[dagitab24]

Wow... galing-galing... but i have my doubts pa rin. :lol:

Alternick mo lang ba yan? How did you know about PEX...

Hahaha... OT na ako. :glee:

Actually, I somewhat revealed my identity in another forum here in PEx. But I don't guess it's a big deal. So let's keep our anonymity intact here. Except for you, Brian -- I already know who you are :rotflmao:

[dagitab24]

^gosh in fairness nung panahon ko sa MPPA gosh nanalo kami over sa PCHS, Chia kai shek whatever the spelling school, grace christian chuva etc. yun nga lang reserve lang ako, gosh, of course di ko naman forte ang math muse lang nila ako sa competition para gosh, mabaliw ang ibang contestant sa pagtitig over sa akin, well i guess that's the secret why we won over the tsinoys, gosh QED :lol:

Huwaw. Staffer ka ba ng Lagablab dati? Ang naaalala ko kasi, mga taga-Lagablab lang ang gumagamit ng acronym na MPPA. That is, noong panahon namin.

[la_flash]

Actually, I somewhat revealed my identity in another forum here in PEx. But I don't guess it's a big deal. So let's keep our anonymity intact here. Except for you, Brian -- I already know who you are :rotflmao:

Reading between the lines,

Brian is not Brian Lagason?

[dagitab24]

I believe that BrianLagason IS Brian Lagason himself. Ikaw talaga. Too much reading between the lines. I just said "I already know who you are" because I knew him personally from PSHS, or MPPA as some Pisay people put it.

[la_flash]

I believe that BrianLagason IS Brian Lagason himself. Ikaw talaga. Too much reading between the lines. I just said "I already know who you are" because I knew him personally from PSHS, or MPPA as some Pisay people put it.

Haha... fishing expedition lang po :glee:

[razzer_infinity]

Huwaw. Staffer ka ba ng Lagablab dati? Ang naaalala ko kasi, mga taga-Lagablab lang ang gumagamit ng acronym na MPPA. That is, noong panahon namin.

gosh, ayoko na masyado ng marereveal ang aking self here, gosh
gosh, gone are those days, gosh, even people not affiliated with lagablab use mppa nowadays, gosh

gosh, you know i find it cool to say mppa rather than normal abbreviation of my school kasi only few people outside my school know what the hell mppa means, gosh.

gosh

[dagitab24]

MPPA. Mataas na Paaralan ng Pilipinas sa Agham.
And I thought parami na nang parami ang coñotic peeps sa Pisay.

Gosh.

[razzer_infinity]

gosh, cono can either be negative or positive, gosh pero gosh if you're in UP-dil at least during my time just few years ago, cono is more of a negative term , gosh :lol:

gosh, by the way, im not so proud of MPPA now, gosh what's happening with my alma mater, murderers and poison makers, gosh

kakatakot, gosh :lol:

[bluethehero]

what's MPPA?

[gerald_pirea]

Philippine Science Highschool?

OT:
Pakitranslate nga po ito sa tagalog
- College of Liberal Arts
- Faculty of Arts and Letters - (sa UST ganito diba?)
- College of Computer Science
- College of Business and Economics
- Accountancy

[razzer_infinity]

what's MPPA?

gosh, exactly my point, gosh :lol:

gosh, im proud to say im from mppa and few people outside mppa knows the best high school ever on philippine soil, gosh :lol:

[bluethehero]

gosh, exactly my point, gosh :lol:

gosh, im proud to say im from mppa and few people outside mppa knows the best high school ever on philippine soil, gosh :lol:

hahaha. i guess you are the best testimony of that, haha. seriously, ano yan? :D

[dagitab24]

Biglang nagdurugo ang tenga ko. Ouch.

Again, that's Mataas na Paaralan ng Pilipinas sa Agham for you, peeps.

[drew_1111]

Nueva Ecija University of Science and Technology...Laboratory High School...pag di2 nag-high school...di ka na mahihirapan sa college...promise....

[hyper_arik27]

err... isn't it always an advantage kapag graduate ka ng schools in manila compared to the provincial ones? i came from batangas but, gawd... kamusta naman ang mga blockmates ko from makati sci, phisci, etc... halimaw... :P

[la_flash]

err... isn't it always an advantage kapag graduate ka ng schools in manila compared to the provincial ones? i came from batangas but, gawd... kamusta naman ang mga blockmates ko from makati sci, phisci, etc... halimaw... :P

halimaw ba? hahaha... :lol:

[razzer_infinity]

hahaha. i guess you are the best testimony of that, haha. seriously, ano yan? :D

gosh, naawa naman ako gosh

MPPA is the tagalized PSHS gosh

i just so happens people from my batch and few from lagablab chuva use MPPA, gosh coz we think its cooler, gosh

few people know it, then it's cool, gosh :lol:

[the 1]

TIER I
IS-Manila
Brent International Schools
Brittish School Manila
Philippine Science High School

Tier II
La Salle Greenhills
La Salle Zobel
Xavier School
UP Integrated School
Poveda
Ateneo de Manila HS
ICA
Grace Christian HS
CKHS
Uno
st. Stephen's
St. Jude
CSA
Woodrose
Suthville

[alyssafox]

i think PhySci

sciences: PhySci, MaSci, QueSci
math: Grace Christrian, Chiang Kai Shek, St Stephen
english, grammar: Ateneo,DeLasalle...

[pumpysworld]

Given the expensive facilities of international schools, I'd put all local schools in the second tier.

TIER I
IS-Manila
Brent International Schools
Brittish School Manila
Philippine Science High School

Tier II
La Salle Greenhills
La Salle Zobel
Xavier School
UP Integrated School
Poveda
Ateneo de Manila HS
ICA
Grace Christian HS
CKHS
Uno
st. Stephen's
St. Jude
CSA
Woodrose
Suthville

[la_flash]

so expensive facilities = best high schools ?

[mcgirl04]

so expensive facilities = best high schools ?

I don't think international schools are any better than schools like Ateneo or La Salle. International schools cater to students who are not in the Philippines permanently. Usually mga anak ng ambassadors. When they go back to their country, they can get full credit for the classes.

[keymaker]

I don't think international schools are any better than schools like Ateneo or La Salle. International schools cater to students who are not in the Philippines permanently. Usually mga anak ng ambassadors. When they go back to their country, they can get full credit for the classes.

With a bigger budget you can afford better facilities plus a more diverse faculty. A lot of prominent filipinos send their children to international schools, it's not just the education, they also want their children to hang out with other children who come from the upper crust of society as this would be an advantage for them later in life.

[the 1]

Given the expensive facilities of international schools, I'd put all local schools in the second tier.

What do mean by expensive facilities? Have you seen the labs at Pisay? Do you have any idea how much would it costs to maintain them? Can IS/Brent even afford to have such labs like those in Pisay?

We're talking of THE Philippine Science High School here, dude. You must be crazy to ignore its superior teaching standard.

[keymaker]

What do mean by expensive facilities? Have you seen the labs at Pisay? Do you have any idea how much would it costs to maintain them? Can IS/Brent even afford to have such labs like those in Pisay?

We're talking of THE Philippine Science High School here, dude. You must be crazy to ignore its superior teaching standard.

I think given the very high tuition IS can afford such labs but I think the poster was referring to the entire facility http://www.ismanila.org/portal/alias__/lang__en/tabID__894/DesktopDefault.aspx. I don't really understand the obsession with science education here, most parents would prefer a more well-rounded education for their children. Not every kid wants to be a scientist. Out of curiousity how many pisay graduates end up being scientists anyway?

[dagitab24]

I started out as a Chem major, but practicality got in the way. I now work in human resources. :D

But the majority (80%) end up working in laboratories, with a significant number taking graduate studies abroad as well.

[la_flash]

I think given the very high tuition IS can afford such labs but I think the poster was referring to the entire facility http://www.ismanila.org/portal/alias__/lang__en/tabID__894/DesktopDefault.aspx. I don't really understand the obsession with science education here, most parents would prefer a more well-rounded education for their children. Not every kid wants to be a scientist. Out of curiousity how many pisay graduates end up being scientists anyway?

It's not about the obsession with science education. It is just that mathematics and the sciences are on top of their priorities, but not to the point that they are neglecting the other disciplines or areas of learning.

Are you trying to imply that the students in science high schools (and former science high school such as MaSci) are not given well-rounded education?

[keymaker]

It's not about the obsession with science education. It is just that mathematics and the sciences are on top of their priorities, but not to the point that they are neglecting the other disciplines or areas of learning.

Are you trying to imply that the students in science high schools (and former science high school such as MaSci) are not given well-rounded education?


Well yes, if you focus a lot on math and science, other areas will not be given as much attention. For example I've noticed that pisay doesn't participate a lot in athletic competitions if at all.

[dagitab24]

During my time, we used to send players to division meets. I was even a member of the Passerelle team when I was a sophomore.

But Pisay was better-known for its soccer team, the Labuyo. Our team was the only HS team that is invited to the Latagaw Cup. Puro college-based teams ang kalaban nila. And have you seen our facilities? We have an Olympic-sized pool, bowling lanes, a 7-a-side-sized soccer field, and a gymnasium. Lack of funds, have delayed the completion of the gym's outer shell. But the facilities inside have been in use for years now.

But lately, under Dr. Alcid's and Dr. Miranda's administrations, Pisay ceased sending varsity teams to competitions. Which is quite a pity, since there were a lot of players who could've made it to UAAP rosters, kahit Team B man lang.

By the way, Pisay has produced quite a number of writers (Read: Butch Dalisay, Jessica Zafra), and many Palanca awardees have been on the faculty as well, which says a lot about the well-roundedness of the education it provides.

[la_flash]

Well yes, if you focus a lot on math and science, other areas will not be given as much attention. For example I've noticed that pisay doesn't participate a lot in athletic competitions if at all.

I think dagitab has already refuted the points you have raised.

Of course, if you give more attention to math and science, then others will be given less attention, but not to the point that it will affect the well-roundedness of the students.

If we're going to follow your argument then other public schools (and private schools) are at fault too. Math and Science are given more importance than Social Studies, PE, and others.

[keymaker]

Is it true that pisay graduates are bound by law to major in the pure & applied sciences, mathematics, or engineering upon entering college?

[la_flash]

Is it true that pisay graduates are bound by law to major in the pure & applied sciences, mathematics, or engineering upon entering college?

Then what's that got to do with being well-rounded?

Can't doctors, engineers, mathematicians, biologists, et. al, be well-rounded too?

But, I would like Pisay graduate such as dagitab answer your question.

May i ask, why concentrate on Pisay? How about other notable science high schools such as MaSci?

[Dacs]

Is it true that pisay graduates are bound by law to major in the pure & applied sciences, mathematics, or engineering upon entering college?
I think this is the purpose of Pisay, to produce HS graduates bound for S&T courses. But it doesn't imply that they're deficient in other fields. Pretty much what la_flash has said.


Well yes, if you focus a lot on math and science, other areas will not be given as much attention. For example I've noticed that pisay doesn't participate a lot in athletic competitions if at all.
Can't say much about Pisay, but there's one person noteworthy of mention. Alvin Patrimonio

[mcgirl04]

With a bigger budget you can afford better facilities plus a more diverse faculty. A lot of prominent filipinos send their children to international schools, it's not just the education, they also want their children to hang out with other children who come from the upper crust of society as this would be an advantage for them later in life.

Not all the time. Most expensive school does not always equal best education. Pepperdine University is one of the most expensive schools in Southern CA but it is not better than UC Berkeley. Students of Ateneo or La Salle definitely are not less competitive than those of international schools. Besides, kids from Ateneo or La Salle also come from affluent families.

[rabbaddal]

The main reason why UC Berkeley is cheaper than Pepperdine is because it is subsidized by the state for Californial residents. In effect, Berkeley students get the same, if not better, facilities than Pepperdine because taxpayers pay for a significant part of the costs of running it. And Pepperdine might even be better than Berkeley in terms of quality of undergrad education (graduate studies, which involve a lot of scientific research, are a different matter) in some specific aspects, even if smarter students tend to self-select in Berkeley because of lower tuition balanced with good education.

[dagitab24]

Is it true that pisay graduates are bound by law to major in the pure & applied sciences, mathematics, or engineering upon entering college?

Yes, we are required to sign a contract upon entering Pisay. Most people comply, not because there is a contract, but because they really want to major in sci-tech in the first place and they felt that Pisay will be good preparation for those courses.

[dagitab24]

Then what's that got to do with being well-rounded?

Can't doctors, engineers, mathematicians, biologists, et. al, be well-rounded too?

But, I would like Pisay graduate such as dagitab answer your question.

May i ask, why concentrate on Pisay? How about other notable science high schools such as MaSci?

My best bud from college was from MaSci. We didn't like each other that much during our first days in AdMU, but we found a common denominator -- activism -- and I'm helping him out with his MA History thesis now as payback for him helping me out with Quantitative Analysis II.

Why not MaSci? I've noticed, too, that people haven't given attention to MaSci. For years all I've known about them was that their principal changed hair color like a female Rodman (:D), and that it was OK for them to get beaten in competitions as long as it's not Pisay who wins.

Later on, my friend took me to their alumni homecoming. MaSci has a smaller campus and a gravelly basketball court, but the teachers were good and had excellent rapport with students. I was not able to go up and check their laboratories, though. The upper floors were closed as it was a Saturday.

BTW, Alvin Patrimonio was from MaSci. The only athletes I know who came from Pisay are RP archery team member Clint Sayo and triathlete Sandra Araullo (:bashful:) .

[Dacs]

^You got it right, aside from the basketball court part. There's this 4-storey building on top of where the basketball was right now.

Facility-wise, you can rank Masci with other public schools. That's how bad the state of facilities of Masci.

It doesn't stop Masci from churning out competitive HS graduates and being regarded as one of the premier science HS in the Pinas.

[dagitab24]

^You got it right, aside from the basketball court part. There's this 4-storey building on top of where the basketball was right now.

Facility-wise, you can rank Masci with other public schools. That's how bad the state of facilities of Masci.

It doesn't stop Masci from churning out competitive HS graduates and being regarded as one of the premier science HS in the Pinas.

You were referring to the Maceda Building, right? The basketball court was to the left of the main gate. Sabi nga ng kaibigan ko, "Kapag kaya mong maglaro diyan, kaya mo nang maglaro kahit saan."

[Dacs]

You were referring to the Maceda Building, right? The basketball court was to the left of the main gate. Sabi nga ng kaibigan ko, "Kapag kaya mong maglaro diyan, kaya mo nang maglaro kahit saan."
It has been eons since I last stepped inside Masci, but I guess that's the building I was talking about.

Ano hitsura ngayon ng Masci? Sana naman mas maganda na siya kaysa dati. I miss my HS :blush:

[Kolmogorov]

There are also Mascians in the comedy field notably Tuesday Vargas and Michael V:lol:

Anyway, multiple din ang English subjects namin. From what I remember:

1st Year - English I and SPeech and Drama
2nd Year - English II and Communication Through Arts (parang Art appreciation course pero under siya ng English department)
3rd Year - English III can't remember kung may isa pa since this is the most loaded year in Masci
4th year - English IV and Technical English


jeez, I remember the 1 reaction paper/week nung 4th year! Sobrang pressure talaga yun!

And you should watch the Yearly sabayang pagbigkas during Linggo ng Wika and yung CHoric Interpretation. Napakaviolent ng mga choreography lalo na ng mga upper class! :bop:

[la_flash]

@Dacs, marami na ngang bagong building sa loob ng MaSci na parang ngayon ko lang nakita... di naman katagalan noong huli akong tumapak sa MaSci eh. :lol:

Ang gusto kong malaman, saan kayo nagfa-flag cermony doon eh ang liit ng space sa ground... o quadrangle kung tawagin ng iba?

Ang gusto ko sa MaSci, mga estudyanteng nakasalampak sa corridors :lol:

[Kolmogorov]

^dun sa loob, sa quadrangle (or Quad A), di siya kita sa LRT he he. Kasya naman kami run

[-=+cZaRiNa+=-]

Nueva Ecija University of Science and Technology...Laboratory High School...pag di2 nag-high school...di ka na mahihirapan sa college...promise....

Ah? That's so assuming. Kayo lang ba ang hindi nahihirapan pag-nag-college na? STI AMA.:rolleyes:

[-=+cZaRiNa+=-]

Saan ba ang mas mahal, Poveda o Assumption?

[keymaker]

Then what's that got to do with being well-rounded?

Can't doctors, engineers, mathematicians, biologists, et. al, be well-rounded too?

But, I would like Pisay graduate such as dagitab answer your question.

May i ask, why concentrate on Pisay? How about other notable science high schools such as MaSci?

I didn't say they weren't well-rounded, I said other schools would offer a more well-rounded type of education which isn't as science-centric.

Well to be honest outside of this thread I've never heard much about MaSci, pisay seems to be the one with the better reputation.

[Dacs]

Well, if anything, majority of science HS do their job on producing graduates heading for S&T fields.

Kolmogorov: Tuesday Vargas? Talaga? Ano batch nun?

la_flash: Sa quad A nga yun. Kasya naman kami (estimate ko 600-1000 students) yun. Everyday pa nga yung flag ceremony eh. Tapos nung time pa ni Banta (yung Rodman Principal namin), everyday checkup ng getup, from the hair to the socks and undershirt! Tapos pag sablay, goodluck sa sermon!

[Dacs]

Well, if anything, majority of science HS do their job on producing graduates heading for S&T fields.

Kolmogorov: Tuesday Vargas? Talaga? Ano batch nun?

la_flash: Sa quad A nga yun. Kasya naman kami (estimate ko 600-1000 students) yun. Everyday pa nga yung flag ceremony eh. Tapos nung time pa ni Banta (yung Rodman Principal namin), everyday checkup ng getup, from the hair to the socks and undershirt! Tapos pag sablay, goodluck sa sermon!

[Dacs]

Well, if anything, majority of science HS do their job on producing graduates heading for S&T fields.

Kolmogorov: Tuesday Vargas? Talaga? Ano batch nun?

la_flash: Sa quad A nga yun. Kasya naman kami (estimate ko 600-1000 students) yun. Everyday pa nga yung flag ceremony eh. Tapos nung time pa ni Banta (yung Rodman Principal namin), everyday checkup ng getup, from the hair to the socks and undershirt! Tapos pag sablay, goodluck sa sermon!

[the 1]

I don't really understand the obsession with science education here, most parents would prefer a more well-rounded education for their children. Not every kid wants to be a scientist. Out of curiousity how many pisay graduates end up being scientists anyway?

Science and Engineering are universal fields. For example, an engineer can opt to go into journalism but a journalist cannot go into engineering jobs. A great majority of science grads don’t even go into science-related jobs or don’t work in labs. They go either into management/business. Some people never seem to understand this. My best friend was a Biology major and is now a venture capitalist, do you think that his major mattered? I don’t know. Too many people major in the arts and social sciences and get stuck in those programs when their science and engineering counterparts can go into anything and then do anything after earning their degree. Some people just don’t get this but we I can’t blame them.

[la_flash]

I didn't say they weren't well-rounded, I said other schools would offer a more well-rounded type of education which isn't as science-centric.

Well to be honest outside of this thread I've never heard much about MaSci, pisay seems to be the one with the better reputation.

Execuse me, but my original question was this:


Are you trying to imply that the students in science high schools (and former science high school such as MaSci) are not given well-rounded education?


(emphasis added)

Then, you answered with this:



Well yes, if you focus a lot on math and science, other areas will not be given as much attention. For example I've noticed that pisay doesn't participate a lot in athletic competitions if at all.


But now you're saying that you didn't say that "they" are not well-rounded?

Granted that other schools give a "more" well-rounded education, what difference does that make?

and when you say "more" well-rounded education, what do you mea by that? Please qualify "more".

Also, if you haven't heard of MaSci, then probably you're not from Manila. :lol: Geesh, they are almost everywhere... and you haven't heard about them? Let me guess, you're not from the Philippines? :D

[keymaker]

Execuse me, but my original question was this:



(emphasis added)

Then, you answered with this:




But now you're saying that you didn't say that "they" are not well-rounded?

Granted that other schools give a "more" well-rounded education, what difference does that make?

and when you say "more" well-rounded education, what do you mea by that? Please qualify "more".

Also, if you haven't heard of MaSci, then probably you're not from Manila. :lol: Geesh, they are almost everywhere... and you haven't heard about them? Let me guess, you're not from the Philippines? :D

I don't really see your point. I said Well yes, if you focus a lot on math and science, other areas will not be given as much attention. For example I've noticed that pisay doesn't participate a lot in athletic competitions if at all.

By saying that other areas are not given as much attention, that would imply the education would be less well-rounded as opposed to other schools, if I had said that other areas were not given attention, then that would imply the lack of a well-rounded education.

[la_flash]

^^ Exactly... then you refuted yourself in your own answer...

The question was "are you trying to imply that... are not given well-rounded education"...

then you answered with "Well, yes...". Do I have to say that you answered vaguely?

That's why we refuted your answer by pointing out that even these science high schools prioritized math and science over other subjects, that doesn't mean that they don't produce well-rounded students.

Besides, by saying that "other areas will not be given much attention", that doesn't mean that they are "less well-rounded"... it simply doesn't go that way.

Moreover, you still haven't qualified what do you mean by "well-rounded" and by "more" well-rounded...

Care to give a better explanation?

[erap_arroyo99]

^^ Exactly... then you refuted yourself in your own answer...

The question was "are you trying to imply that... are not given well-rounded education"...

then you answered with "Well, yes...". Do I have to say that you answered vaguely?

That's why we refuted your answer by pointing out that even these science high schools prioritized math and science over other subjects, that doesn't mean that they don't produce well-rounded students.

Besides, by saying that "other areas will not be given much attention", that doesn't mean that they are "less well-rounded"... it simply doesn't go that way.

Moreover, you still haven't qualified what do you mean by "well-rounded" and by "more" well-rounded...

Care to give a better explanation?

my money's on la_flash. gogogo!

[dagitab24]

Just my .02's worth:

1) Just because science is given emphasis in PSHS doesn't mean other subjects are neglected. For example, we do have the requisite English and Filipino subjects every year. There's nothing much that sets us apart from the better-known private schools in that aspect, and I'd like to believe that we produce graduates who are good writers too, not to mention good economists (e.g., Cielito Habito), etc.

2) What sets us apart, however, is the number of science subjects we take. In first year, we had IPS (integrated physical science) and earth science. In second year, we had physics and biology. And so on.

3) In order to provide well-rounded education, we also have non-science electives. For example, I took visual communication. Some of my other friends signed up for English journalism, which implies that Pisay students take the initiative to expand their horizons, and that Pisay gives them the means to do so.

If that's not well-rounded, what is?

[gox]

International School Manila:

School for the elite (helps out with networking later on because some of your classmates are heirs to major Philippine corporations or end up becoming partners in law firms and investment banks abroad). Great facilities which surpass even the facilities of some US universities. Great faculty (many with MAs and Phds in their field). Multinational, multicultural environment. School seems to value the development of each student's unique identity. Very liberal compared to local schools. Plethora of extracurricular activities-on campus magazine, newpaper, tv station, sports...etc. Known feeder to top schools abroad...is well known with Ivey League admission commitees. Every year, IS will send a handful of students to MIT, Yale, Princeton, and Harvard. Some well known local schools will make a big deal out of one student who gets into those schools, IS sends a handful kids to such prestigious institutions every year. Great college preparatory program: IB Diploma and the US's Advance Placement.

Weakness of ISM: can be too liberal. Since its main focus is sending kids to top foreign schools, it is pretty weak in Tagalog and Philippine history courses (many IS kids who opt to go to local school have difficulty in Filipino related subjects). Kids grow up in a bubble filled with expats and the upper crust of Philippine society...lack of exposure to regular Philippine society, although IS is trying to expose their students to things like Gawad Kalinga.
15,000 dollars a year for High School....that is almost as much as state college tuition in the states. If I can easily pay the tuition, then yes, I will send my kids to IS. Otherwise, a good local school would do.

Overall, I think ISM is a great school, and is probably one of the best high schools in the country. The tuition is quite prohibitive, but I think it offers a great well rounded education.

[keymaker]

^^ Exactly... then you refuted yourself in your own answer...

The question was "are you trying to imply that... are not given well-rounded education"...

then you answered with "Well, yes...". Do I have to say that you answered vaguely?

That's why we refuted your answer by pointing out that even these science high schools prioritized math and science over other subjects, that doesn't mean that they don't produce well-rounded students.

Besides, by saying that "other areas will not be given much attention", that doesn't mean that they are "less well-rounded"... it simply doesn't go that way.

Moreover, you still haven't qualified what do you mean by "well-rounded" and by "more" well-rounded...

Care to give a better explanation?

I see you're taking this quite personally, first of all let me re post my original statement:
I think given the very high tuition IS can afford such labs but I think the poster was referring to the entire facility http://www.ismanila.org/portal/alias...opDefault.aspx. I don't really understand the obsession with science education here, most parents would prefer a more well-rounded education for their children. Not every kid wants to be a scientist. Out of curiousity how many pisay graduates end up being scientists anyway?

I answered "well yes ..." because I simply browsed your question, not seeing that you posted not well-rounded as opposed to less. I seem to have hit a nerve when I said that I've never heard much about masci, from then on you proceeded to attack me by saying I said that pisay graduates are not well-rounded by seizing on a simple error, ignoring the original statement.

As to what the adjectives more and less mean, you can easily google them if you have trouble understanding the concepts.

[la_flash]

^^ Haha. Am I taking it personally, keymaker? Sorry to burst your bubble, sir... but I am not from MaSci or any science high schools for that matter. I am only taking on the topic as objectively as possible.

And no, I didn't attack you... where did you get that idea?

If that was an error in your part, you should have corrected it right away to avoid the misunderstanding on your stand.

google what's the meaning of more or less? ows, can we do it as easy as that? do i have to count the number of extra-curricular activities of the students? do i have to count the number of units per subjects and if it was distributed evenly? do i have to research how many sports fests the schools participated into?

if the schools prioritized math and science over other subjects or activities, does it follow that they are less well-rounded? Definitely not.

[la_flash]

@ la flash
He is batch 1999! his colleague Neil Tristan won the Battle of The Brains twice in a row

Ey jeune, i've sent a pm... please advise.

i only need some confirmation about this :D