driving females...what do you think?

[sea sprite]

ok! to all guys out there...i've seen your lips curl up and the words "babae kasi" form whenever a girl driver cuts in front of you or whenever an accident happens and a girl just happens to be there. what's up with that sort of thinking? i don't suppose there's a driving gene on the y chromosome that makes you guys wonderful drivers from birth...so, spill.

to all the girls, naman, you can moan and groan, come up with explanations, even side with the guys if you want to. let's go!

[byby]

for me there's nothing wrong w/ girl drivers.. the "babae kasi.." attitude really sucks.. those who say it are just full of crap. there are girls that i know who drive are even better driver than me :D

mas ok pa nga yung ibang girl drivers kasi hinde masyadong aggressive drivers.. more of defensive driving sila. pero i have to admit, sometimes, natataranta rin ang mga babae mag drive especially on tough situations.. pero even us guys do, so its normal.

i support girl drivers.. so girls, don't just seat on the passenger seat and let your boyfriends do the driving.. get yourself on the wheel too! :)

[This message has been edited by byby (edited 09-21-2000).]

[tr|n|ty]

HOY I DRIVE! (yes, long hair ever girlash ako) i may suck at it..but no major accidents so far(crossing my fingers and knocks on wood). I admit, i tend to be very chicken with certain situations..pero i would like to think of it as being very cautious. Pero weird thing is, nagiging kaskasera na ako..especially when some idiots are just so annoying...example: i was driving in front of Saint Ignatius village..there was this BMW right in front of me who was just so annoying...there was a small accident..eh wala namang namatay o nasaktan..he suddenly slows down to a virtual stop..nagka traffic na there...nang uzi kasi. I honked my horn because there was no sense for him to cause such a jam, di ba? so i overtook him and he suddenly makes harurot his car and challenges me to a damn race...ah i was pissed ha and late na ako for my lunch date...eh 96 corolla lang car ko ha and sya of course, 500 series na BMW pero medyo luma na..mga late 80's http://www.pinoyexchange.com/lol.gif so anyways, i was trying to avoid him, he still keeps on following me. Buti nalang he was going to marikina and i was heading towards ateneo..oh yah, i beat him to the flyover BWAHAHAHA natakot na ako baka labasan ako ng baril, so i sped off na.

anyways, back to the topic of girl drivers. I dont think big traffic mistakes are caused solely by female motorists. Male motorists are capable of doing the same thing or even worse kasi nagyayabangan.

[This message has been edited by tr|n|ty (edited 09-22-2000).]

[Ira]

Actually, I find that there are as many male drivers as females who are too slow and unskilled on the roads. Humility aside, I am a very skilled driver (I drive like a ambulance driver, or so my mom and some of my friends say), so it is insulting for me to hear that "babae kasi" phrase. Excuse me, I'm much better than male drivers. I have been challenged to countless races, and I've won 99% of the time, so to guy drivers who like saying this, I say, "lalaki kasi kaya ambagal at di marunong", complete with rolling of eyeballs. Eat my dust! ;)

[onehitboy]

driving skill really depends on a number of factors. these include, but are not limited to the following:

<OL TYPE=1>
<LI> seat time – experience is the biggest factor, as with any skill
<LI> hand-eye coordination – driving is a visual event, and objects on the road must be correctly translated into steering and pedal input to perform successful evasive maneuvers, in the event that these maneuvers are called for
<LI> presence of mind/cognitive awareness of road conditions – good drivers are conscious of the position and speed of objects relative to their vehicles. these include other vehicles, pedestrians on the street, surface conditions (wet, dry, slippery, off-road, narrow, wide), and the like
<LI> familiarity with car being driven – even a good driver goes through a “learning curve” when stepping behind the wheel of an unfamiliar car. conditions such as pedal take, steering levels, position of controls and vehicle capabilities must be taken into account. skill increases as the driver becomes more familiar with car reaction and feedback.
<LI> adaptability – follows from factor 4. different types of cars must be driven in different types of ways. numerous factors affect driving style. engine location, center of gravity, driving wheels (front, rear, or all wheel drive) are parts of this factor. obviously, driving an f-150 truck will be different from driving a honda civic. good drivers will be able to adapt quickly to the vehicle being used.
<LI> confidence – a good driver must have the belief that obstacles on the road will be avoided with reasonable and minimal input and that practical yet safe speed will be achieved for the duration of the drive. drivers who lack this confidence will be afraid to take higher speeds and will constantly be on guard and back down against other vehicles on the road.
</OL>

from experience, and in general (and i stress this), men, (by virtue of culture) are forced or drawn into the driver seat. therefore, there are ,on the road, more male drivers than female drivers. when an incident/altercation happens, female drivers get more attention because it seems more “out of the ordinary” (term used loosely, of course).

gender does not preclude any of the factors enumerated above. female drivers could have as high hand-eye coordination as a male driver. she could have just as much, if not more confidence than an equivalent male driver. being female, she might even have more road awareness than a male driver. both men and women have equal driving skill level. it really just is a matter of developing factors 1-6.

women just get singled out more often because there are less of them on the road.

true.

[yuri]

some women are ambitiuos and tough as men,but
c'mmon driving it's a man world.

affirmative

[virgo14]

i agree that women drivers get singled out more often because there are less of us around but i wouldn't say we are more likely to get into an accident. in fact, i may be going out on a limb here, but i think women are probably safer drivers because we're more prudent and cautious. women don't deserve the bad reputation.

as far as racing goes...as long as the car comes with an airbag, i'm in! :)

[landiday]

Driving is not about being tough and ambitious!! its about knowing your highway code, stopping distance, quick thinking in case of an accident and being sensible. Don`t drink and drive. etc.

Women are difinitely better drivers than men, Why? because women have more sense than men. Originally posted by yuri:
some women are ambitiuos and tough as men,but
c'mmon driving it's a man world.

affirmative

[clone]

Here, in a nutshell, is what I think about this:

It's the nut that holds the wheel which causes most accidents.

The driver's gender is not synonymous with ones driving abilities.

[Ice Burn]

Tsk, tsk, I guess they haven't seen me driving yet :rolleyes: ...that'll change the stereotype of female drivers... http://www.pinoyexchange.com/lol.gif

All I can say is, beware of my dark regatta isuzu pickup. I love to speed, cut and I will not hesitate to chase after any idiot out there who hits my car and tries to escape. Like in the case of those punk *** ateneo highschoolers who broke my side mirror and took off like chickens...I must've gone around 120kph along Katipunan in the familiy hi-ace just to cut those punks! Can yo believe the nerve when the first thing they told me was they're from Ateneo. I screamed at them that I was from Ateneo as well! Like what's the connection? Will I forgive them for being Ateneans???

Back to the topic, No one ever says babae kasi to me. Ride with me and hang on to your dear life! http://www.pinoyexchange.com/lol.gif

[zimdude]

:cool: well ako baliktad. I'm not a good driver, I'm afraid to drive fast because I have slow reflexes :D

[sea sprite]

i'm glad that there are some guys who don't conform whole-heartedly to the idea that girl drivers are bad drivers just because they're girls. in this country dominated by macho men, it's so easy to lose confidence in yourself when everyone tells you from the start pa lang na wala kang kwentang mag-drive dahil babae ka.

when i first started driving, i had this apologetic attitude whenever i cut in front of anyone (oi! nagsi-signal naman ako at legit yung cut ko) but since some girl in the passenger's seat (feeling ko bf nya yung nag-dr-drive) looked at me disdainfully 'cause i insisted on my right of way, i'm not apologetic anymore. basta tama ang ginagawa ko ok na, naiinis lang talaga kasi ako sa chauvinistic pinoy males e--and the women who support them vs. their fellow females.

[ChiQui]

I feel insulted when I hear that "babae kasi" phrase. A lot of my girl na friends are really really good drivers. I consider myself a good driver as well. And if you look at the statistics, there are more accidents with male-driven cars than there are of female ones. ;)

[daggerlooks]

Originally posted by yuri:
some women are ambitiuos and tough as men,but
c'mmon driving it's a man world.

affirmative

Geez. Do you live in a cave?

Why do you think this way? Give me proof.


Anyway, It's not a question of which gender can drive better. Some men suck as drivers and some women suck too.

But I guess the "babae kase" comes from the fact women's lib came only recently. So seeing a woman drive makes chauvinists think, "She's new at driving and she sucks at it...babae kasi.."

[MIP13]

ok lang basta may license http://www.pinoyexchange.com/bop.gif.mas maingat nga sila kaysa sa guys e.

[chikitita]

to those with 'babae kasi' mentalities, kala siguro nila nasa panahon sila ni maria clara..expecting women to be faint-hearted with conservative driving habits...NOT...

ako nga mahilig din makipagkarera at singitan when provoked. defensive driving to the max!

i find it weird though...my mom always utters "aaah..babae kasi!"..labo..babae din siya e...

[kirei041179]

----
Warning to Lady Drivers

About a month ago there was a woman standing by the mall entrance passing out flyers to all the women going in. The woman had written the flyer herself to tell about an experience she had so that she might warn other women.

The previous day, this woman had finished shopping went out to her car and discovered that she had a flat. She got the jack out of the trunk and began to change the flat. A nice man dressed in business suitand carrying a briefcase walked up to her and said, "I noticed you're changing a flat tire. Would you like me to take care of it for you?"

The woman was grateful for his offer and accepted his help. They chatted amiably while the man changed the flat, and then put the flat tire and the jack in the trunk, shut it and dusted his hands off.

The woman thanked him profusely, and as she was about to get in hercar, the man told her that he left his car around on the other side of the mall, and asked if she would mind giving him a lift his car. She was a little surprised and she asked him why his car was on other side.

He explained that he had seen an old friend in the mall that he hadn't seen for some time and they had a bite to eat and visited for a while; he got turned around in the mall and left through the wrong exit, and now he was running late and his car was clear around on the other side of the mall.

The woman hated to tell him "no" because he had just rescued her from having to change her flat tire all by herself, but she felt uneasy. Then she remembered seeing the man put his briefcase in her trunk before shutting it and before he asked her for a ride to his car.

She told him that she'd be happy to drive him around to his car, but she just remembered one last thing she needed to buy. She said she would only be a few minutes; he could sit down in her car and wait for her; she would be as quick as she could be. She hurried into the mall, and told a security guard what had happened; the guard came out to her car with her, but the man had left. They opened the trunk, took out his locked briefcase and took it down to the police station.

The police opened it (ostensibly to look for ID so they could return it to the man). What they found was rope, duct tape, and knives. When the police checked her "flat" tire, there was nothing wrong with it; the air had simply been let out. It was obvious what the man's intention was, and obvious that he had carefully thought it out in advance. The woman was blessed to have escaped harm. How much worse it would have been if she had children with her and had them wait in the car while the man fixed the tire, or if she had a baby strapped into a car seat. Or if she'd gone against her judgement and given him a lift.

This woman told this experience on the flyer she was passing out so that other women could be warned. Please remember this, and if you ever need roadside or parking lot help, wait on the outside of the car and have any children wait outside with you, or maybe wait inside with the doors
locked, or call somebody. I'd like you to forward this to all the women you know.

It may save a life.




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[DiaperRash]

BASTA Ako one thing is sure sa mga female drivers......MAGALING SILANG KUMAMBYO! :D

[singollo]

ako, aaminin ko, mas magaling mag-drive sa aking yung gf ko. siguro nasa experience lang yan e.

[sea sprite]

talaga singollo? makakarating... ;)
check out the time of your post!

[:Þ]

Ewan ko pero sa Pilipinas lang ako nakakita ng mga lalakeng nagsasabi ng "Babae Kasi eh".. geez, how stupid could they get? Some truckers here in States are women who lives in their trucks and that's their life - riding through states with their giant 18-wheeler rigs..those women have bigger biceps than Hulk Hogan and hey.. they haul ***!!!

Yuri:

You don't need to be "tough" to drive properly.
(Read: Riceboys) My fiance drives a slightly modded
Eclipse GSX and oh well.. for what I see, every RiceBoy in L.A. wants to race her with their RiceRocket Civics with spoilers as big as a picnic table but they would end up losing and eating dust :D *partida na preggy pa asawa ko ha :D hehe

So the point is - don't underestimate FEMALES because you just don't know who you're messing with.. ;)
wanna race my girl.. ? :cool:

[chikitita]

:Þ, may asawa ka na pala ah! ;) that i wanna see.. a preggy woman making harurot da car! :lol:

[gumacanian]

Stick to washing the dishes and leave the driving to the men!! <promotes road saftey>

[ck_rei]

IMHO most female drives faster than men do, I take myself as an example, I really hate slow drivers especially when they're in a one-lane street, sometimes they are the cause of traffic.
Most of my female friends drives like hell, and I'm sure a lot of girls would agree with me, even my brother says "ang babae ayaw ng nasisingitan, pag nasingitan nang-o-overtake na".

[Tonette E.B.]

"babae kasi"????
Gimme a break!
It's all in the mind! and practise!
You don't have to be a man to be able to drive.
Unfortunately... it's not only in Pinas where they say that.

[gumacanian]

My ex said I'm a bad *** woman driver. And I take that as a compliment. Not that I'm irresponsible -- I follow the rules and drive defensively if I'm not in a hurry.

I drive a box type Lancer and much to my friend's chagrin, his Eclipse has never won against my humble little car.

Defensive women driver eh!! Go back to washing the dishes,and help make the roads a safer place.
C`mon,let the man take the wheel....You know it makes sence!

[chang]

Originally posted by gumacanian
Stick to washing the dishes and leave the driving to the men!! <promotes road saftey>

i'll start washing the dishes the day you start plowing the field.

i don't know if you're deliberately baiting the women posting in this thread. i sincerely hope you're not as stupid as you sound.

[bluviolet]

driving is an acquired skill, just like walking and talking. it's something you have to learn and develop. i don't think that God specifically made one gender good drivers, because in the first place God didn't create cars.... so i don't believe that one gender is genetically predisposed to become better drivers. i am a girl and i admit i suck at driving, but it has nothing to do with the fact that i'm a girl, i just have poor coordination. i think the difference bet. the genders is their attitude towards driving, men tend to take more risks and thus get to where they are going faster. while females tend to be more conscious of the things going on around them like pedestrians etc...so they become less aggressive than their male counterparts.

[Ice Burn]

Yup, he's baiting us girls alright. He's either exhibiting a typical behavior of an insecure, chauvinistic mental case. :rolleyes: or he was just showed up by a girl on the road. His poor ego couldn't hack it. Pity the loser...


And remember...

It only took one loose nut to cause the accident and that loose nut was sitting behind the wheel.

[imogen]

Originally posted by PePs
My ex said I'm a bad *** woman driver. And I take that as a compliment. Not that I'm irresponsible -- I follow the rules and drive defensively if I'm not in a hurry.

I drive a box type Lancer and much to my friend's chagrin, his Eclipse has never won against my humble little car.

:D

aba at bagay talaga kayo ni jenson. :D

[gumacanian]

What's worse than a Male Chauvinist Pig?
A woman that won't do what she's told. hehe

[JUSTIN19]

Anyway, gumacanian's right...Let us boys take the wheel...

Ladies, dont force yourself to drive ---
1. For the sake of Showing to men that you can do what we do. Now if you really have to drive because in your family there is no male to drive for you, hire a male driver.We are already naturally gauged in the drivers' seat. Let us do it.I dont understand why women tend to reject what we men always do for them...There's the service and I can't believe that they reject it.
2. Don't compare yourself to unexperienced male drivers and shout out loud that: "Hey, I've beaten a male driver" : What a superficial remark.

I am joining a choir,girls do drive there.
Sometimes,When I deliberately said I left my car, i would request them to give me a ride...and u know what...I fell asleep. *Note: I would rather enjoy a fellow buddy of mine driving.{mind you both of them are experienced drivers}

Hmmm...being 'natataranta'...not me.

When i was in ojt last summer, and my boss has a company driver(male), Since it is already 5:15pm but we have already made a deal to deliver the computer goods to a client, he drove above what i expected...He told me to buckle my seatbelt and i said i dont care because I like his way of driving.

Yeah right...unexperienced driving cause accidents though...

For those females who have those biceps bigger than Hulk Hogan's, Please refer to my reply in thread 'what men can do women can't and vice versa' under buhay pinoy section.

Well, For those women who drive 120kph...ohhh...i pity you so much...well...not satisfied...ehehehe

Hmmm...if overtaking cause accidents...then isnt it that someone mentioned in his/her reply to this thread that women overtake because they dont want to be slowed down? They're the cause!? what conflicting replies!!!! Its not the men who cause accidents...can u please clarify!grrrrrr

For me, i dont want to be slowed down, i do overtake, but
FASTER and MORE alerted so that no one is going to bump me or whatever.Im not that patient.

Driving --- generally a male dominated skill. Look, i said generally, When u females drive out there, dont do all those remark stuffs that u are faster than us, that u can beat us...I pity all those loud-mouthed ladies.Let us boys do all those remarks with each other, and believe me, we really enjoy it.

[gumacanian]

Cars are traditionally, mechanical "boys toys"
and when a man sits behind the wheel he almost "becomes the car".Most men have a general understanding about whats under the hood.Why its there and what it does. Some men take this passion a step further and become the best at what they do,an example would of course be the F1 wizards like Alesi,Hill,Coultard etc. Where are the women in F1??
Not even in the pits!!
Im not saying that a women that genuinely loves driving cannot become a competent driver,Im just saying that most are more worried about the cars interior aroma,the pretty seats or where to hang their hand bag.
How many times have you seen a woman using the rear view mirror! I did,just yesterday.She was powdering her face and applying lipstick, While driving!!
A car mechanic once told me of a woman complaining that her car that was only 6 months old was sounding "Rather rough"
After further inspection he found that the lady had been using the cold start(choke) which had been pulled out and was being used as a makeup bag hanger!! She genuinely thought that was what it was for!! The engine was wrecked.

Look girls,if you only need a car to get from A to B then save your money and take a male driven cab!! 6 months from now,Youll be thanking me.........


Check this out http://www.angelfire.com/pa2/antiwomendrivers/think.html

[Edited by gumacanian on 10-27-2000 at 10:57 PM]

[Ice Burn]

Oh, so now are saying that the requirement for a good driver is having a ****?

Tsk, tsk. Where are your brains? Controlled by your second head? :lol:

[sea sprite]

I am so appalled at the way this thread has turned out. The guys posting here have really degenerated from the enlightened males to petty, narrow-minded chauvinists. Sheesh!

[gravedigger]

Gumacanian!!!! I think you hurt their feelings.
Still. The truth can somtimes be hurtful. Dont worry,They`l get over it!!

[vigilauntie]

It is sad that this thread has led this name calling.

But what can be done, one itchy finger leads to another's...

so do this board a favor, and shut up. Now.

[gumacanian]

Originally posted by vigilauntie
It is sad that this thread has led this name calling.

But what can be done, one itchy finger leads to another's...

so do this board a favor, and shut up. Now.


vigilauntie. Of course your right.
How dare they call me a Chauvinist !! I have never been so insulted...He he

[:Þ]

What?? The engine got wrecked just because of the choke??
Oh c'mon dude gimme a break. I've worked with literally TONS of engine swaps and modifications among friend's rides and I'm very familiar with the cold start. When you say 'engine', it includes the entire block - camshafts, pistons, exhaust manifold, headers, etc - they are ALL part of an engine and I honestly doubt that a choke could cause them all to fail. Choke is just a simple valve like the throttle and its function is to restrict air intake in order to pick up more fuel and enrich the fuel/air mixture in carbs during cold weather. You can easily replace the choke for a measly $5 on junkyards. :D


JUSTIN19: FYI, here's the fact:

• Men are two and one-half times more likely than women to die from accidental deaths. For males aged 1 to 44 years, accidents are the number one cause of death. Two and one-half times more men as women die in motor-vehicle accidents, the leading cause of accidental death. Five times more males die by drowning.

• How many girl RiceRocketeer have you seen? Probably none in your entire life. On the contrary, MALE Ricers are EVERYWHERE with their Honda Lawnmowers with spoilers as big as picnic tables - most of them race with each other on pulic streets and highways, not minding us poor innocent motorists. I think women drive more cautiously than men and driving isn't about how 'macho' you can shift to gears and slam the pedals - it's all about safe transportation from point A to B.


Kids, let's not generalize women as weaklings in terms of driving. Everybody makes mistakes - even schumacher. So, I think it's better to just consider driving as a safe transportation, not a competition.

Uh, BTW, I know an 18 year old girl who drives his dad's M3 like a bat out of hell.. I'm pretty sure she could give you a run for pinks, blow the doors off your poor car and enjoy watching her taillights as it fades away...


To each his own kids..to each his own.. :D

[onehitboy]

Originally posted by :Þ

• How many girl RiceRocketeer have you seen? Probably none in your entire life...

one too many, unfortunately. nothing is as dangerous as a ricegirl. more so than the atypical riceboy, for some reason, these "girlie-girl racers" risk more than life and limb in the pursuit of male attention.


any rice is bad rice, imo.

[gumacanian]

Cmon :Þ ,Im not disputing your knowledge here but think about it! A new car and engine running on full choke for 6 months!! Apparantly The exhaust,carb,jets were Thick black with coke! Now I dont know about the U.S but with labour charges as high as they are in the U.K,its probably more viable to go with a recon engine then pay to have one completley decoked. So I suppose it depends how you define wrecked.
Anyway could you imagine a guy doing that? Not in my lifetime.

[:Þ]

gumacanian... you mean a guy hanging his makeup kit in the choke? :D Didn't Eric Quizon used to do it?? hehehehehe

onehitboy: Those teenybopper girl RiceRocketeers are the exception, yes, they suck - if you ever see one. They're kinda rare these days. haha :D

[Dogberto]

I think its not so much a problem of bad female drivers. Its got more to do with the AGE of the driver, regardless of gender. I've been slowed down more times by old people driving slowly in the middle of road.

[bLaCk]

i'm a driver and i'm a woman.
i've raced a couple of men- or should i say boys?-and won
i drive a black SiR customized na parang pang lalaki...

and when they see who's behind the wheel, they'd just
stare off in space... "babae pala?!"

darn... i hate it when boys do that..

we're equals, baby.

[p-a-m-m-y]

i just learned how to drive last summer... and i don't think i'm that terrible at it... when i drive though, my mom screams all the way home... or wherever it is that we're going......

she just has this tendency to go hysterical often... :lol:

but my mom's been driving since she was 13.. and she's a pro....

[gumacanian]

Could you leave your mothers personal life out of this please:lol:

[cherub_08]

c'mon! why restrict women from driving when they want to? i'm a woman and i can drive. why burden my dad or my brother to drive for me when i can drive for myself? it's not a gender thing. this is not on who drives faster than who. the important thing is you arrive to your destination safe.

[zuii]

Women are no longer treated as mere appendages to the masculine of the species they are out to show they could be just as assertive like yuri said ambitiuos and tough as men.

powerpuff girls

[gumacanian]

. why burden my dad or my brother to drive for me when i can drive for myself?

It would not be a burden! They would probably be relieved!!

[purple_madness]

wala lang, kita ko kasi na this thread had 49 posts so ako na lang yung 50th para may flames na yung folder :lol: hahahahaha

umm, para may silbi naman tong post ko, meron akong singasaan na paa ng barkada ko na after i brought him home, sabi sa kin, "you drive like a girl." double whammy yung hirit nya na yun kasi unang-una, i am a GIRL :girl: thank you very much, and i know i'm not that good a driver, pero hindi naman ako nag c-cause ng traffic or accidents... well aside from this one time na may nagbanggaan kasi namangha sa kagandahan ko...:lol: J/K!!!

although aaminin ko na minsan (well, ok most of the time) na whenever pumapalpak ako sa daan, i take advantage of the stereotype.

3 S lang yan:
1. smile
2. say sorry
3. SPEED OFF!!!


:smokin:

[cherub_08]

Originally posted by gumacanian
It would not be a burden! They would probably be relieved!!

my dad's pretty content that all of us girls in the family can drive . . .

[:Þ]

bLack: So... wanna race? ;)

[FineST]

ok lang naman sila kaya nga lang minsan takot na sila. yung iba nga ayaw bumusina.

i salute you girl drivers!