TAGALOG pocketbooks ... baduy ba?

[BabyFATS]

Baduy daw, but I've read some of those TAGALOG pocketbooks. And I still do... :o

I've been reading those by Josie Aventurado and I was surprised to find out that even Tagalog pocketbooks can be engaging...

Anyway... so, have you? Kwento naman o!

[This message has been edited by BabyFATS (edited 04-17-2000).]

[uptowngirl]

ey cutie BabyFats, hindi pa ko nakakabasa ng mga Tagalog pocetbooks na romance kasi naiilang ako minsan sa mga words. But if you say Josie Aventurado is good, I'll check it out! :)

[tRiStAn]

i don't consider them baduy. but then, i don't recommend reading them either. if you have to read tagalog books, don't read the pulp fiction type.

[BabyFATS]

ey uptowngirl! I started reading Josie Aventurado's works after I found out na mom pala sya ng chat-friend ko.

She writes well, but I'm not saying she's the best, since I honestly don't have anyone else to compare to.

Kung gusto mo, I'll lend you one sa EB tapos you try and check her out for yourself. :)

[uptowngirl]

sure BabyFats! thanks! :D

[Gilbey]

I read those tagalog pocket books in an hour or two. Baduy talaga ako, aminado ako - ergo, baduy ang pagbabasa ng pocket books.

[manoksapugad]

"Baduy" is a term we attach to things which we consider to be of lower value, culturally speaking. Like it or not, it has something to do with class dynamics and power relations. The dominant class labels as "baduy" those cultural items which are associated with the lower classes. Baduy does not necessarily mean inferior, it only indicates that the people who value them are powerless.

So, are Pinoy pocketbooks baduy? Yes. Are they bad? Not necessarily.

An activist friend of mine once told me that she wanted to write Pinoy romance novels. Why? Because they are widely read by the Filipino masses, perhaps the most popular text-only reading materials for them. Thus, these books have the potential to be used as tools for educating the masses on important social issues.

[sadirmata]

depende sa sumulat... maraming romance pocketbooks writers ang nagtatago lang sa penname na babae at marami diyan ay mga serious writers o masasabing committed na writer ... required kasi na pangalang babae ang gagamitin ng author sa romance pocketbooks... mahahalata mo naman na mahusay yung obra at gawa ng magaling talagang writer at pag mahusay na writer talaga ang bumanat maski pa baduy kaya yung tema eh nagagawa niyang maganda yung estorya na literary talaga... sina Benjamin Pascual, Levy Balgos dela Cruz, Lualhati Bautista, Reynaldo Duque at iba pa ay nagsusulat ng romance pocketbooks gumagamit lang ng penname ang mga yan

[Jei]

Originally posted by BabyFATS:
Baduy daw, but I've read some of those TAGALOG pocketbooks. And I still do... :o

I've been reading those by Josie Aventurado and I was surprised to find out that even Tagalog pocketbooks can be engaging...

Anyway... so, have you? Kwento naman o!

[This message has been edited by BabyFATS (edited 04-17-2000).]

if it is by Martha Cecilia i read it..
her Kristine Series are interesting..

[trish1201]

weeelll...i hafta be honest, nababaduyan ako sa tagalog pocketbooks!pero minsan they CAN be pretty good. isa pa lang ang nabasa ko na i can consider good enough...pero sa sobrang tagal na nabasa ko yon, i cant even remember the title or the author of that thing!

[BabyFATS]

Ayan... at least, nde pala ako nag-iisa! :D

[Ira]

I honestly find it baduy too, but then, I find most pulp romance books baduy, anyway, whether written by Filipinos or Caucasians. I personally don't like it, but I wouldn't say it's totally trash--if it gets people to read, improve their comprehension skills, and start them on a road to better appreciation of the written language, then it has more than served its purpose.

[tart]

i'm a collector of tagalog pocketbooks, and i don't find it baduy. actually more than a hundred na nga yun and marami na rin ang nawala sa dami ng nanghihiram sa kin na di nagsosoli. fave ko sina martha cecilia and the late helen meriz. meron pa ko with authograph of helen (i met her before she died) and gilda olvidado.

[rains_delight]

miss you marielle :wave: hello lyra :wave: hello taks :wave:

yeah, don't get offended ha, kasi ang mga nakikita ko lang na nagbabasa ng tagalog pocketbooks yung mga katulong.

One time nakabasa ako, kasi ang baduy, ang babaw ng story. Tipo bang wala kang matutunan sa story. :)

[BabyFATS]

Hello Rodney! :wave:

No prob po. Actually, I only read Josie Aventurado kasi mommy sya ng friend ko. :D

[^PoloBOY]

baduy!

[tart]

Originally posted by rains_delight

yeah, don't get offended ha, kasi ang mga nakikita ko lang na nagbabasa ng tagalog pocketbooks yung mga katulong.



hindi lang naman mga katulong nagbabasa nun. father ko nga pag walang magawa nanghihiram sakin ng pocketbook. maybe kanya-kanyang hilig yan but please don't look down to people like that.

Originally posted by rains_delight

One time nakabasa ako, kasi ang baduy, ang babaw ng story. Tipo bang wala kang matutunan sa story. :)

try to read those written by helen meriz or martha cecilia...

[Eterna]

i have been meaning to read one however my schedule has never really allowed me to browse for one. Just for curiousity's sake i'd really like to know how skilled filipino writers are at making their own pulp romance books in the vernacular.

[jetlander]

may isang writer na parang itinagalog/ginaya niya yong sands of time ni sidney sheldon nakakaasar. magmula noon 2 tagalog author na lang ang binabasa ko Gilda Olivado at martha cecilia

[BabyFATS]

Dati naman meron akong nabasa sa horror komiks na
tinagalog yung isang episode ng Twilight Zone. Kaasar noh? :angry:

Meron talagang mga palpak na writer.
Meron ding mga palpak na kwento.
Meron namang mga palpak na naaappreciate ng ibang mga tao. :)

[tofi]

its not baduy...

kahit papano pinaghirapan din gawin ang mga istorya. my mom usually buy pinoy pocket books written by gilda olvidado and helen meriz, kaya kng may chance ako nagbabasa rin ako.

:D

[Mickey2000]

http://www.mousescripts.com/clipart/images725/Characters/Mickey_Mouse/mickey08a.gif :wave: Mariel...
Pag Love Story,talagang nababaduyan ako,kahit english pa,hindi talaga ako nagbabasa,pero kapag documentary, binabasa ko,so far isa pa lang kasi yung Tagalog Pocketbook Doc na nabasa ko eh,I think it is about Olongapo.The rest,puro english na..

[sadirmata]

Originally posted by Mickey2000
Pag Love Story,talagang nababaduyan ako,kahit english pa,hindi talaga ako nagbabasa,pero kapag documentary, binabasa ko,so far isa pa lang kasi yung Tagalog Pocketbook Doc na nabasa ko eh,I think it is about Olongapo.The rest,puro english na..

baka yung "'gapo" ni lualhati bautista ang nabasa mo? maganda nga yun. actually hindi love story. pero may story ng love doon siyempre. basahin mo rin ang iba pang nobela ni bautista kagaya ng "dekada '70" at "bata, bata, paano ka ginawa"...

[CaselynFrncisco]

well i read tagalog pocketbooks whenever i can get hold of one usually sa parlor, sa bus station and sa kapitbahay na tsimosa =)

They're not that bad parang extended version ng Wakasan or Hiwaga komiks (sans the smelly pulp) i'm pertaining to the Valentine Romances and Sweethearts type (not the literary ones though bilib ako kay Lualhati, she can easily shift to the romance and cornball stuff with much flair) Tagalog pocketbooks though run in the same vein as tagalog movies such as those written by Ricky Lee (melodramas). Minsan nakakatuwa dahil over the top din ang mga characters ng tagalog pocketbooks, minsan exaggerated ang mga kinikilos, marami din loopholes, maraming pampakilig (it never falls short on that). I would recommend those written by Gilda Olvidado and the late Helen Meriz (they're the best i've read so far) hindi linear ang story, intense and character driven ang works nila. dapat mabilib din tayo sa mga writers natin (kahit cheesy) they're trying to promote reading sa masa kahit paano this is a good start. It would be okay sana if publishers market our literary classics with appealing book covers for the masses. at least, it would somehow open doors pa.

anyway here are some common/worst storylines sa mga pocketbook i've encountered:

1. girl gets raped at the talahiban, tricycle driver hottie befriends
her, she falls in love and discovers her real rapist, the hot tricycle driver, she fantasizes about him and she ends up at the talahiban again with him. The two get married.

2. Amo and katulong fall for each other. (ala Shawie and Gabby)
3. Tibo and bading end up having kids
4. Foreign RockStar falls for pinay fan (ala John lennon and Yoko Ono)
5. Girl gets amnesia and falls for hubby all over again.

well honestly i wouldn't want to be caught dead reading one pero guilty pleasure ko na 'yan. ka-homesick e =)

[Mickey2000]

http://www.mousescripts.com/clipart/images725/Characters/Mickey_Mouse/mickey08a.gif Originally posted by sadirmata baka yung "'gapo" ni lualhati bautista ang nabasa mo? maganda nga yun. actually hindi love story. pero may story ng love doon siyempre. basahin mo rin ang iba pang nobela ni bautista kagaya ng "dekada '70" at "bata, bata, paano ka ginawa"... Iyon nga yata iyon eh, yung dekada 70,nakabasa ako,pero hindi ko natapos,yeah yung "gapo",it is about the life of some GI baby,specially mga anak ng Black American,if I'm not mistaken yung dekada 70,it is about naman sa mga aktibista sa school,or something related to that.

[indigo24]

I remember I once read our maid's tagalog romance.I saw it lying around and, for lack of anything to do,I read it.I was a kid back then so i was pretty surprised esp when I got to the "good" parts.It was a really weird experience.

[bemused]

way back in the early 90s, my mother would love to rent tagalog pocketbooks, i was still in gradeschool then. i was able to sneak in and read some of them until i reached high school. i read them side by side with other foreign lit., classic and what-not.

i must say, tagalog romance novels then were really written well. with writers such as nerissa cabral, gilda olvidado, a certain marcelino, i forgot the first name, helen meriz (she's dead now, caused by accident), and lualhati bautista (whom by the way is a she.) sum1 mentioned kase in one of the threads that most writers some of whom are men use women pen names.

but since it really created a readership among Filipinos, the quality of most romance pocketbooks has deteriorated. very commercialized.

it's a sad fact that here is a very good medium to uplift the readership of the masses but then it's also being exploited, bringing them (the masses) down to the standards elite-thinking people think they should belong...tsk...tsk.

it may sound baduy but for others who could read it without prejudice, you'll appreciate it one way or another.

back then, the themes (though really are romance) were written well.

[hannah17smb]

hindi naman lahat...yung mga nabasa ay okay naman sila... :lol:

yung iba naman eh iba ang cover pero pareho ng storia...ano kaya yun??? :shrug:

:wave:

[netski522]

Originally posted by uptowngirl
ey cutie BabyFats, hindi pa ko nakakabasa ng mga Tagalog pocetbooks na romance kasi naiilang ako minsan sa mga words. But if you say Josie Aventurado is good, I'll check it out! :)

i don't think so...kse i also read tagalog pocketbooks, ok naman sila pero ***** it depends upon the author and publisher. I like most of the pocketbooks distributed by precious heart.

[frenchkisser]

questioning the "decency" of tagalog pocketbooks is only one way of showing how doubtful we are in trusting the capabilities of our filipino authors. this is so sad ...but true.
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[noinertaus]

yep.. tagalog pocket books are baduy.. i agree to that... i do not like the words used... (although I haven't read one.. i just scrolled down my eyes) I am not really degradating the Filipino talent.. I know na you are refering to the pocketbooks na basta korni na manipis na may picture of two lovers sa harap and minsan taglish pa title... As what I have said I am not doubting Filipino talent in writing... I guess that we are good writers... like Jose Villa.. (am I right?).. there are lots of good pieces out there EXCEPT yung mga Tagalog pocketbooks lang.

Try reading Canal dela Reina by Liwayway Arceo.. it is a book that opens our eyes to the Phil. society... it is symbolical.. magnificent.. take my advice!

I think that we should be reading books that will help us open our eyes to the truth... to everything around us... not those corni pocketbooks

[rollingover]

Baduy is a very relative term. What may be baduy for some may not be for others. Bottomline, it really depends on the author and the publisher. I've read a number and found some to be a disappointment, the rest engaging and nakakaaliw. I esp. like books written by Rose Tan and Vanessa. *okay*

[mikki_pretty]

hindi pa ako nakakabasa maski isa.. though, i'm really a bookworm.. gusto ko kase makabasa ng tagalog na super ganda.. para lang nde masira saken ang mga pinoy novels.. :D

[ftwcp955]

Hindi pa ako nakakakita o nakabasa ng novels , plays ect. that I don't consider as an art, even if it is written by american,european, chinese and most specially my fellow Filipino.

[pro_tempore]

i got hold of a romance novel once, just out of curiosity. there's too much english going on in those "tagalog" pocketbooks.

be skeptical. it's not that i don't have faith in the talent of our local novelists, but it's also possible that they copy whole scenes and ideas from foreign romance novels.

[faux_ph]

--if it gets people to read, improve their comprehension skills, and start them on a road to better appreciation of the written language, then it has more than served its purpose.

Totally, agree. I used to abhor tagalog because it's not my native tongue. A classmate during my HS days introduced me to a tagalog pocketbook ( Valentine Romances ) because of the sex scenes, I got hooked into it for the rest of my HS days ( pervert !).As a side, I started to appreciate the language. Tumaas pa ang mga grades ko noon sa Filipino subject! That's decades ago.

But a lot of "literary material" tagalog pocketbooks are now on shelves of bookstores. If you are referring to these, then to answer the question, I think not.

I particularly liked the tagalog pocketbooks of Bob Ong.

[babygurl_archer]

wow this thread is 6years old.

anyhoo, i've read more than my fair share of tagalog pocketbooks. most of them were romance novels. HS days was the peak. as far as i can remember, most of us girls in the class read them. even gays. lol. we even collected them, shared them with other girls.

and i agree, baduy is a relative term. on my part, it wasn't.

[pumpysworld]

Much of what we enjoy from American pop culture is in many ways as "baduy" as Philippine pop culture, but we often value the former and ridicule the latter.

[praytostars]

yeah i tried reading one of those when i was back home cus my friend got one from their maid. i couldnt read it. couldnt bare to.

[jookeulae]

ah basta ako nagbabasa ako ng tagalog pocketbooks. yung romance ha. yun ang breather ko kapag saturated na ang utak ko sa mga nginangawa nila plato, hobbes, descartes etc etc.

[stepehenyan@12]

tagalog pocketbooks is similar to reading XEREX in abante. puro romance lang nakikita na binebenta.

[AutumnLeaves]

di baduy ... ok pa nga minsan magbasa nito .... :wave:

[heygurl]

favorite ko si marites madrid-armero

nakabasa na kayo ng sinulat nya?

[Saikee]

An activist friend of mine once told me that she wanted to write Pinoy romance novels. Why? Because they are widely read by the Filipino masses, perhaps the most popular text-only reading materials for them. Thus, these books have the potential to be used as tools for educating the masses on important social issues.

Amen. It's all about communicating messages. Who cares kung "baduy" whatever ek na yan. If the readers take something of value away from the literature (a lesson, a thought, or even just plain entertainment), then the writer has already done her part.

[budsbunny]

there are women i've talked with and they honestly told me that they buy them (tagalog pocketbooks) for the bed "scenes" hehe... well, there are also women who buy jude deveraux and julie garwood for the same reasons... it's funny but at least they were honest.

but anyway, i've been fortunate enough to read about 5 to 10 helen meriz years ago and they were great written works. i just think i graduated from romance novels now (yeah, i switched to harry potter LOL). i write tagalog poems and read tagalog poems and i think if you're literary fan, you have to give everybody a chance. even tagalog erotic literature specially by manuel calma can be a good read even if they are xerex material.

just like if you're a music lover, you must appreciate (or at least try) everything from classic, new age, rock, metal, alternative and yes, even pop and novelty.

[chigusa]

An activist friend of mine once told me that she wanted to write Pinoy romance novels. Why? Because they are widely read by the Filipino masses, perhaps the most popular text-only reading materials for them. Thus, these books have the potential to be used as tools for educating the masses on important social issues.

That's a great idea, I've never thought of that before...

But my mom has a Tagalog romance pocketbook she keeps in our apartment in Japan, which I've read out of sheer boredom it was very funny and irritating at the same time when the author shifts carelessly from Tagalog to English.

[dagitab24]

OK lang. Kumbaga, a little junk food is good for you.

[dagitab24]

well i read tagalog pocketbooks whenever i can get hold of one usually sa parlor, sa bus station and sa kapitbahay na tsimosa =)


5. Girl gets amnesia and falls for hubby all over again.

well honestly i wouldn't want to be caught dead reading one pero guilty pleasure ko na 'yan. ka-homesick e =)


May potential ang #5. Mala-Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. *okay*

[enkei_711]

I dont really think its "baduy", what's important is that you dont stop from growing, i mean after reading tagalog you should move to english then something literary. then mix it up. Siguro kung puro tagalog ka na lang, yun yung medyo di maganda. But to say na wala kang makukuha, i dont think so, first pwede tong stepping stone para masanay ka magbasa nang up to 1 hour without stop then after this try reading something longer, until masanay ka sa mga todo habang novels. Anyway, i still read tagalogs from time to time. I like Martha Cecilia a lot

[darkchild2]

At first, I find it baduy but my friends were reading it so I eventually read it as well. I guess the first quarter release of the tagalog pocketbooks were the great ones to read until it became mass produced product that'll will have to cater to all masang people.

I really admired helen meriz's works.

[julienne_moi]

depende kung sino ang author. there are tagalog pocket books that i will not say baduy but the flow of the story is under developed. the ones that i read lately are like that di maayos ang kwento.

[pringlez]

grabe na tooohhhh...hehe tagal na thread na to ah:lol: hayyzzz... di nmn baduy tagalog pocketbooks, sa iba ***** kanyakanyang hilig *** yan eh... try nyo novels nina rose tan n martha cecilia da best!*okay*

[kiane]

^^ Yes, agree ako dyan. Di lahat ng tagalog pocketbooks ay baduy. As for me, ang binabasa ko lang na pocketbook na tagalog ay yung mga gawa ng Precious Hearts Romances. At pinakagusto kong author sa tagalog ay si Martha Cecilia.

[yojan17]

Books ni Martha Cecilia and the late Helen Meriz are quite good! Sa Kristine Series, matututo ka pa ngang mag-Spanish eh... hehe! :D

[buboybibo]

Lalake po ako (promise hindi ako gay. LOL) at nagbabasa din ako nito since nung matuto akong magbasa at maraming ganito sa bahay namin, kinakagalitan pa nga ako ng nanay ko dati pag nagbabasa ako kasi merong mga sex scenes talaga.

May mga times na baduy yung dating nung storya pero may mga nabasa ako na maganda. malaki din ang naitulong nito sa reading skills ko, when i was younger it would took me about a week to finish just 1 pocket book. tapos nung nagtagal-tagal kaya ko ng bumasa ng 1 pocket book in 2-3 days (paputol-putol po yon.. hehehe...). Tapos ngayon give me 1 hour tapos ko ng basahin yon at kaya ko pang i-kwento yung storya. Oh diba meron naman siyang educational value (in terms of practice reading po) kaya pwede na rin.

Hanggang ngayon nagbabasa pa rin ako nito pag wala ako magawa. Medyo nakakairita na lang ngayon yung ibang storya na taglish yung pagkakasulat. Para kasing ang sagwa pagbabasahin mo.

[rollingover]

hi guys!
share ko lang para sa mga tagahanga ng genre at ni vanessa ng PHR
here's the teaser for her latest series
got it from her friendster site

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oops... seems like the embed function isnt working right
here's the link instead - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVyJHIEaHHw

[tetris]

...these books have the potential to be used as tools for educating the masses on important social issues.

they CAN be used as a tool for educating masses but would the masses buy into the whole 'let me re-educate you' bit. i kinda see it more as an escape for them, just as much as crappy cheesy predictable pinoy movies are. in that moment, no matter how short it may be, they are able to escape into a world where they don't have to worry about the usual stuff (bills, money, bills, money, bills...). if these books somehow morphs into an education tool, they probably wouldn't be as popular as they are now.

just a thought.

[emerald23]

I Like MC, Vanessa & Rose Tan

here's the link of Rose Tan (http://www.rosetanonline.proboards53.com/i) Forum

punta kayo mga Rose Tan Fans!!

[Donasyl]

ah basta ako i like martha cecilia's novel specially kristine series.you won't call it baduy pagnabasa mo na maadict ka my gosh!i love fortalejo men,navarro men,basta i love all ng mga tauhan doon sa kristine series.pagnabasa mo yun hihilingin mo na sana totoo na lang lahat ng nabasa mo.ganon ang effect.hindi katulad ng ibang pocketbook sobrang oa na tapos ang ikli ikli pa walang kwenta.dapat yung mga ganon di na nilalathala eh.the best ang precious heart romances!!

[forg]

walang masama, libangan ito eh. at least nagbabasa sila kahit papaano

[wonder_chaser]

di naman baduy, eh ako nga kahit ngayon nagbabasa ng Tagalog pocketbooks pag meron akong nakikita. di talaga maiiwasan na may mga kwentong mababaw meron namang magaganda talaga *okay*

[dinagcp]

Hindi naman baduy ang tagalog pocketbooks. I'm reading yung mga books ni Vanessa, Rose Tan, Sonia Francesca as well as Martha Cecilia.

[MONTO GAWE]

No, mas baduy ang hindi marunong magbasa o di kaya marunong magbasa, pero di nagbabasa.

Literacy has nothing to do with language. As long as Filipinos read, Filipino, English or whatever, that's still better than nothing.

So, do I read Filipino pocketbooks? No but I'm not against it. And I might try one of these days. As a child, I read komiks - Wakasan, Hiwaga, Funny Comics et al.

Feed your mind . . .

[Donasyl]

Glad to know na maraming maka MC(Martha Cecilia). You can visit her site.http://geocities.com/eirycat/..then click niyo po dun yung messages board.

[dAyDeTTe]

i dont read tagalog pocketbooks BUT personally i dont think its baduy.

[jeany]

baduy nga...but infairness, they are fun to read sometimes, pag wala ka talagang magawa sa buhay mo...para silang mga mini teleseryes...hehe...

[maylunasy]

Admit it, baduy man o hindi, you read it for the "good parts". hehehe...

[#1 critic]

Tagalog pocketbooks are just like regular "sosyal" fiction. Some good, some bad. When it's bad, it's really cheesy. But when it's good, it's a masterpiece.

Sakin the difference is how you perceive it.

[kebean]

Of course not! Well, we have to admit that it's what the lower third of our country reads, isn't it? It's affordable(a better term for cheap), it's literature(a suitable word for madaling basahin kasi tagalog), and it gives some spice in our romantic lives. It's just the same as the pocketbooks that Americans create, only that they have this certain quota, I think. Kasi, have you ever seen a pocket book na mataba? Diba, wala?:naughty: Basta, try reading it. I read it when I'm in the province and I'm far away from my collection of good reads, and it does comfort me, even if the characters call each other Peanuts or Sweetpeas. :> We just stereotype it as for poor people only. My mom's intelligent and we can afford novels, and she does buy a lot of novels, pero we also have a large stack of pocketbooks that she reads from. It isn't baduy, it's just a choice of genre a person picks. :> Filipinos, I think, just don't like heavy literature. Like me! :> Chick lits forever!:bop:

[kebean]

nagbabasa ako kasi merong mga sex scenes talaga.

Admit it, baduy man o hindi, you read it for the "good parts". hehehe...

true. :> :rotflmao:

[java_girl]

i read those written by gilda olvidado, helen meriz and ang favorite ko-- martha cecilia :)

[charinggola]

i like danielle, martha cecilia and rose tan... sila lang po hehehe...

[durmstrang]

Hindi pa ako nakakapagbasa ng tagalog pocketbook. Pero gusto kong i-try.

I agree with kebean. Dahil masa yung target audience nila, tingin ng tao e baduy na yung libro. Kahit ako tingin ko din baduy kaya ayoko din magbasa. But then I grew up. Libro pa din yan, pinaghirapan ng writer.

[tokeneng]

Honestly, I find it baduy. Baduy, not in the sense that it is for masa but baduy because of the uncreative use of language(Tagalog or English..but usually it's a bad combination of both) and napansin ko, bibihira yung original na kuwento, halos puro tinagalog lang na foreign novels. That's IPR theft and sadly,they get away with it.

How can they educate the masses when in the first place they don't use proper Tagalog nor English? Magbasa nalang kayo ng local magazines like Bannawag(for Ilocanos) because they promote the proper use of Ilocano unlike yung mga Tagalog pocketbooks, they butcher the Tagalog and English language and put the 'masa' into a disadvantage - they cannot write/read in their own language properly at the same time, they don't have a good grasp of the English grammar nor can they comprehend the language well. "Illiteracy" at its finest. Illiterate na nga sa local language, illiterate pa sa international lingua franca.

Maraming local writers na masmagaling and write with more sense. Charleson Ong - fiction with a touch of local Chinese culture(and Filipino-Chinese relationships and history- not necessarily romantic). Okay rin sa Jessica Zafra if you like sarcasm. Go to national bookstore, maraming okay na local literature other than those Tagalog pocketbooks.

[belledandy mae]

i've never read pinoy pocketbooks
but from what i hear from my sister i could tell it's not baduy since she actually prefer it (sometimes)than mills and boons.

[TMjanjalani]

para sa akin, di naman kabaduyan na magbasa nun eh, dahil ba sa tagalog kaya nababaduyan yung iba.. eh ano sariling wika nga kaya dapat tangkilikin.. naks! yan ang teroristang makabayan..:D peace! di ako tunay na terorista ha..jowk lang yun baka mamaya ma-NBI pa ako..natakot bigla ahaha..
seriously, kasi di ba me english romance novels kung iisipin mo same plot lang naman ng tagalog pocketbooks, kaibahan lang eh language na ginamit..tapos siyempre pangalan ng characters..ako nga kalalake kong tao nagbabasa ako nun para napepenetrate ko kung pano mag-isip mga babae para alam niyo na alam ko kung papano cila aamuin kung me giyera..*okay*

[metropolitan]

para sa akin hindi baduy ang Tagalog/Filipino literature ang pangit lang sa mga pocket books na iyan ay pare-pareho lang ang istorya. sana maging creative pa ang mga authors.

[cut3wolf]

It's true that it helps improve your reading comprehension skills. This is where I started. Naaalala ko nung elementary ako, I used to steal my aunt's collection tsaka nagkukulong ako sa kwarto. Meron nga akong nabasa na super ganda ng pagkakasulat. I kinda forgot the title and the author but the story spanned for two generations. I eventually moved on to English pop-culture books such as Sidney Sheldon, Nancy Drew, Hardy Boys in highschool. And these past 5 years, I'm hooked with elitist literature like the works of Cormac McCarthy, Toni Morrison, Thomas Pynchon, Philip Roth, Marquez, etc.

Pero nagsimula talaga ako sa tagalog pocketbooks. :D

[soulrockiv]

Read my book:

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[mE&dE]

ako naman i don't find it baduy...nagbabasa ako noon eh...

i read the KRISTINE SERIES-pinaka fave ko talaga...

i love martha cecilia...*** kristine kasi its like a real life..although cheesy..it felt good eh once you read it...

nakakawala ng problema...

like ko na mga author:

gilda olvidado
helen meriz
martha cecilia
sonia francesca
cora clemente
elizabeth mcbride
jasmine esperanza


i also read english pocketbooks....

my fave are...

danielle steel
jude deveraux
fern michaels

[ahriac]

Being a huge fan of the late Helen Meriz and Martha Cecile, reading tagalog pocketbook is not baduy. Although ngayon hindi na ako masyadong interested sa mga romance novel both english and tagalog, hindi ko pa din kayang ipamigay ang mga ito para lang mabigyan ng space ang mga new books ko. I just have to buy another Orogan Cabinet para sa mga bagong libro.hehehe

[mama-amy]

I dont really think of it as baduy.It just depends on the preference of an individual,but to call it baduy is a total absurdity.Its a work of art.Maybe they differ in quality bec. really there are writers better than the others but there is always a common ingredient in tagalog pocketbooks that makes in interesting.More often than not it upholds values.And reading is always good.I would really recommend
martha cecilia,such a talented writer.Shell bring you to world of fantasy yet with a very tight grip of the reality:):)

[pretenred1]

i love martha cecilia
super fave ko siya nung HS then nung nagtry na ako ng basahin ulit pero iba na yung feeling hindi ko na masyado gusto
pero like ko pa rin si martha cecilia

[thingsnthongs]

Me too! I love Martha Cecilia and her series. I forgot na, yung about kay Don Leon hehe. Nagpapatayan pa kami nung high school for her novels. Rose Tan din. Funny!

[ohlyee13]

meron ba kayo alam na site kung san pwede mag download ng mga novels nila martha cecilia?

[bronzer1234]

may baduy na pocketbook talaga as in minsan magulo ang flow ng story, sablay ang grammar. it all boils down sa pagpili ng mga pocketbook. ako ive been reading since high school i had a fair share of pocketbooks na sana pinangkain ko na lang meron naman na sobrang ganda na tipong mugto ang mata mo sa kakaiyak or minsan naman mapapagkamalan kang baliw dahil tawa ka ng tawa. yung precious hearts pocketbooks magagaling ang author nila like

martha cecilia
vanessa
camilla
rose tan

[Hanap]

correct.. lahat naman ng bagay may jologs at may astig. May ipagmamalaki at may panira...

siguro lamang lang ang pagiging predictable ng pocketbook stories kaya sinasabing baduy.

[g0th_princess]

i dunno.. havent found a tagalog pocket book which is really.. uhhmm.. engrossing.. pero sabagay pano mo nga naman lalaliman ang plot kung ilang pages lang naman..

anyway, its not baduy.. i actually like to read it sometimes.. and i am familiar with rose tan and martha cecille.. okay sila.. di mashadong trying hard.. ang problema nga kasi sa ibang tagalog pocket books eh sablay na nga ang grammar in filipino, mali mali pa ang subject verb agreement pag iniingles.. but still meron namang mga disente..

NAIINIS LANG AKO SA MGA TAONG NAGPUPUNTA SA MGA BOOKSTORE TAPOS MAGBABASA SILA DUN NGA SA TAGALOG POCKETBOOKS, AND THATS ALL THEY'LL DO, HINDI NILA BIBILHIN *** BOOK AFTER NILANG LAMUTAKIN FOR HOW MANY DAYS..

nakakawalang gana tuloy bumili..

[katiescarlett]

if it is by Martha Cecilia i read it..
her Kristine Series are interesting..

amen to that!

[m-c]

i used to read pocketbooks when i was in high school
huminto na ako!

[flypaper]

pinoy pocketboks... shoot. napareminisce ako sa kabataan ko a. i used to read romance pocketbooks, *** phr. started reading those in gradeschool. tinatakas ko pa *** sa pinsan ko. bakit naman baduy? kasi tagalog? kasi sa presyo? pero kapag janet dailey o danielle steel sosyal na? aw. hindi rin.

ayus lang magsimulang magbasa sa kung anong pinaka available na material na mahahawakan mo. pero in the long run, habang bumibihasa at nahahasa tayo sa pagbabasa ng iba't-ibang klaseng reading materials, mas namumulat tayo sa ibat-ibang aspeto; technique at content; na magtataas sa antas natin bilang mambabasa. so ang gusto ko lang talagang sabihin, basa lang ng basa. kasi dapat muna madevelop *** natural na pagmamahal sa written form and everything follows sabi nga ng commercial.

[ender_1111]

di naman baduy.... I used to read piniy horror pocket books... that you could buy for 5 pesos....

[ushuaia_ph]

NAIINIS LANG AKO SA MGA TAONG NAGPUPUNTA SA MGA BOOKSTORE TAPOS MAGBABASA SILA DUN NGA SA TAGALOG POCKETBOOKS, AND THATS ALL THEY'LL DO, HINDI NILA BIBILHIN *** BOOK AFTER NILANG LAMUTAKIN FOR HOW MANY DAYS..
nakakawalang gana tuloy bumili..

have you been to bookstores in u.s.? barnes? or borders? or stores in singapore like kinokuniya? ganun din sila, nakakatapos ng book ng hindi binibili. hindi lang pinoy ang gumagawa nyan.

[kachich]

getting back on the topic,

it's cheap cause the books are actually cheap.

err. i like precious hearts romances. pero pili lang. i like rose tan's and some reader's choice. yung iba kasi, so-so talaga. maasar ka lang na binili mo yun. :bashful:

for me, baduy yung mga books na mali mali ang grammar-yung trying hard mag english. parang walang editor, publisher lang ang meron. hindi ko matake nung one time na nakabasa ako, first page palang ata, gusto ko na sunugin. :grrr:

[anthea08]

nope its not baduy nakaka enhance pa nga ng filipino language eh kasi marami kang matututunan na deep filipino words and thats very good kasi pilipino tayo. i used to read pocketbooks, precious hearts to be exact and my favorite is martha cecilia. gawang pinoy to at dapat rin nating tangkilikin :D

[hrdnox_12]

oo.... baduy !!! hahaha... mga pangbobo lang *** mga ganito... haha... sorry pero yun ang totoo... pis... ;)

[ipai_0213]

ok lang.. kanya kanyang kabaduyan lang yan eh =) hehe

[:::cRy:::]

i love to read. kahit ano lang binabasa ko.komiks.flyers.brochures.magazines.books.pocketbooks.tagalog pocketbooks.


that makes me bobo?hmm :rolleyes::confused::eek:

[japspt]

no idea kasi di ako nagbabasa eh but based on your suggestions, sige nga makabili nga ng martha cecilia.

[Camaraderie]

ito nagturo sa akin magsulat sa Filipino. grabe ang imahinasyon ng mga writer ng pocketbook, at magaling mangiliti ng mga mambabasa talaga.

[zaimu]

"Baduy" is a term we attach to things which we consider to be of lower value, culturally speaking. Like it or not, it has something to do with class dynamics and power relations. The dominant class labels as "baduy" those cultural items which are associated with the lower classes. Baduy does not necessarily mean inferior, it only indicates that the people who value them are powerless.

So, are Pinoy pocketbooks baduy? Yes. Are they bad? Not necessarily.

An activist friend of mine once told me that she wanted to write Pinoy romance novels. Why? Because they are widely read by the Filipino masses, perhaps the most popular text-only reading materials for them. Thus, these books have the potential to be used as tools for educating the masses on important social issues.


I agree with you..everything is subjective and not all Pinoy romance writers are baduy, some of them are serious writers and pinoy romance is another avenue for them to express themselves, and lets face it, i think in terms of monetary compensation, the earnings here are much faster if you already have a loyal following & the promotion of the book is much easier & faster. I read & collects all kinds of books from business to self-help, new age to religion, and part of my library collection is Pinoy pocketbooks, mostly from Rose Tan (im a fan of hers). If that categorizes me as baduy, thats ok with me...after all, to each his/her own...hehehe..:bop:

Though, i invite you to try Rose Tan's work, really, you'll have fun with her works (not at all cheesy but humorous). Her works is one of the fastest to move in NBS, Im actually vigilant in checking NBS everyday before I go home, so I'll be the first to buy and not have to wait for the next delivery... ;)

[bLack_jeweL11]

One of my guilty pleasures.

Martha Cecilia's Kristine Series is my fave...

[#1 critic]

Hindi ah!! Some of the best writers came from this genre.

[spacesamba]

the thing is..what is "low" art or "high" art? andy warhol's genius was questioned because he depicted things like the campbell soup etc. are comics or in this case tagalog pocketbooks less "literary"' than plays by shakespeare? i dunno. art just like beauty is relative to its audience.

[NeoXGarde]

Honestly, i dont read Tagalog (Romance) pocket book's...pero hindi kailangang sabihang baduy ang mga to'...at hindi rin ako naniniwalang baduy ang mga laman nito. para sa akin, wala naman'g kabaduyan sa kahit anung genre ang basahin mo hindi ba? porke hindi natin type, baduy na, huwag naman'g ganun...^_^
Oo', hindi gusto nang iba ang field na ito, pero hindi baduy...

astig ka kapag nagbabasa ka nang kahit ano...lalo na yung gawa sa atin, ;)

[Ruthay]

Honestly, i dont read Tagalog (Romance) pocket book's...pero hindi kailangang sabihang baduy ang mga to'...at hindi rin ako naniniwalang baduy ang mga laman nito. para sa akin, wala naman'g kabaduyan sa kahit anung genre ang basahin mo hindi ba? porke hindi natin type, baduy na, huwag naman'g ganun...^_^
Oo', hindi gusto nang iba ang field na ito, pero hindi baduy...

astig ka kapag nagbabasa ka nang kahit ano...lalo na yung gawa sa atin, ;)


Base on my experience..

Mostly, baduy.

Kristine series.. I've read one, yeah, somehow I liked it. Just that it's being too fast paced left a lot of possibilities for the story to develop.

May iba, carry'ng carry lang.

Ang di ko kasi gusto sa ibang pinoy pocketbooks, pare-parehas ng idea sa plot, iba iba lang ang construction ng story. Yung iba,basta makabenta lang hala sige, sulat ng kahit ano, sobrang babaw.

IMO lang po.

[Ruthay]

Honestly, i dont read Tagalog (Romance) pocket book's...pero hindi kailangang sabihang baduy ang mga to'...at hindi rin ako naniniwalang baduy ang mga laman nito. para sa akin, wala naman'g kabaduyan sa kahit anung genre ang basahin mo hindi ba? porke hindi natin type, baduy na, huwag naman'g ganun...^_^
Oo', hindi gusto nang iba ang field na ito, pero hindi baduy...

astig ka kapag nagbabasa ka nang kahit ano...lalo na yung gawa sa atin, ;)

That's true. Gawang pinoy, maganda talaga..

For now, I am so fond of Pugad baboy. Oops kinda off topic, just citing an example. hehe.

[mourning myrtle]

NO! :glee: but i only read/collect PBs from few writers...

Hello Helen Meriz, Gilda Olvidado and now, Martha Cecilia (Kristine Series esp. Book 1 and 2) and Arielle (my most fave for her character-driven love adventure stories - Brotherhood of Wings, Crisis Management Team, Phoenix, Fantastic TV, Femme Fatale (4 trained geisha's with the ability to lure men and kill them), Dragon's Legacy (7 foster brothers fighting for their BEnefactor's Legacy), Nemesis (3 men who thought they are each other's enemy :glee: ) and her latest Craville (Azure's inspirations in the creation of her famous perfumes))!!!!! most of Arielles' "bidas/kontrabidas" are unpredictable, unconventional, unglamorous, scheming and "sira-ulo" but i really really adore them all :lol:

Im waiting for her next work "Club 59" (?), a dark comedy series. ;)

[sarkastik_ako]

reading tagalog pocketbooks is my guilty pleasure. i love Rose Tan, Sofia, Sonia Francesca, anything funny hehe.

[sarkastik_ako]

er, ok. i just read the entire thread. i thought you're only referring to Tagalog Romance pocketbooks.

anyway, aside from the Precious Hearts Romances/My Valentine pocketbooks, I also read Bob Ong's, Jessica Zafra, Arnold Arre and some local writers. kanya kanyang genre lang yan. Yung mga tagalog pocketbooks parang Mills and Book or Harlequin. yung kay Bob Ong/Jessica Zafra, I'm sure meron silang foreign counterparts. I don't care if you call me baduy. It's your call. Sana lang walang taong nagsasabi na bobo mga nagbabasa ng Tagalog Pocketbooks. baka pag nag-IQ test tayo matalo ka. *peace*

[thirstquencher]

...adik ako sa KRISTINE SERIES ni martha cecilia...

[bitwise]

I used to read pocket books, yeah the romance kind, when I was a kid. Ako kasi ang taga bantay ng sari-sari store ng tita ko at linggo-linggo ay umaarkila sya ng pocket books. What I used to do was, I scan the first few paragraphs first and see if it suits my taste. Hindi naman po sa pagmamayabang ngunit bata pa lang ako ay marunong na akong kumilatis ng isang akda, kung ito man ay tamang pag aksayahan ng panahon o hindi. But as a boy with raging hormones, I tend to forget the "literary" aspect when I see juicy parts embedded all throughout the writing. Hehehe. Pero sa totoo lang, madami na rin akong nabasa na may magandang daloy ng istorya at may makukulay na karakter.

Having said that, it's been ages since I've read a tagalog pocket book. Balak ko po kasing magbigay ng regalo sa isang kaibigang babae na mahilig magbasa. But based from what I know, she only reads English novels. Kaya po, sana, para maiba lang, ay gusto ko syang bigyan ng Tagalog romance pocketbook na may "laman" at hindi patapon. But I can't also submit myself to actually reviewing the Tagalog pocketbooks in book stores since, ehem, that's really an uncomfortable place to be seen when you're a man. Parang pag pinabibili ako dati ng Nanay ko noon ng tinging Whisper. Hehehe.

So what current titles do you suggest? Salamat po sa mga tutugon sa aking tanong.

[emzzz]

haha.. i used to read them nung high school kasi parang term-paper sa school.. summarize the book.. :D..

i ended up reading two and that was it..

wel.. baduy if.. nakikita ka in public while reading it..

pero.. if nasa room ka lang..who would call you "baduy right?.. haha..s arili mu lang siguro.. :D.. :lol:

[sarkastik_ako]

bitwise, mukhang popular yung Kristine Series by Martha Cecila, try mo yun. Although mahihirapan ka na sigurong maghanap nung mga first batch nun.. :D

[bitwise]

Ah ok po. Nasa ibang bansa kasi ako at susunod ko na uwi ay sa Mayo pa siguro. Sana may makita pa ako. Ayaw din kasi nun nang hindi kumpleto lalo na pag series. Salamat po sa suggestion.

[sarkastik_ako]

^well I suggest pumunta ka sa PHR main office, I know it's somewhere in QC hehe. and please, wala nang po, 24 lang ako. :D

[bitwise]

^ okie dokie. im also 24. same age pala tayo.

i dont know if i can visit the phr office though. ill try to look for it na lang sa book stores

baka pwede na rin kita idate if ur a girl? hehehehe

:lol:

[amabluigel]

OROSA-NAKPIL, MALATE

> the best Filipino novel I have read. :)

[sarkastik_ako]

^ okie dokie. im also 24. same age pala tayo.

i dont know if i can visit the phr office though. ill try to look for it na lang sa book stores

baka pwede na rin kita idate if ur a girl? hehehehe

:lol:

:rotflmao::rotflmao:

what do you think? :naughty:

[ayanamirei]

oh my god. naalaala ko yung mga days na dinedekwat ko yung mga pocketbooks sa kwarto ng kasambahay namin. :lol: pero isa-isa lang para hindi halata na may nawawalang isang libro. :bashful:

naintriga naman ako sa mga libro na binanggit dito. makabili nga. :D

[ayanamirei]

@bitwise: kung gusto mo yung kristine series ni martha cecilia pwede kang pumunta sa website na 'to: http://tagalogromancepocketbooks.blogspot.com/2008/11/martha-cecilia-kristine-series.html. sabi dun sa profile niya, pwede niyang ipadala kahit saan yung pocketbooks. email mo na lang siya. :D

[bitwise]

thanks @ayanamirei.

I've also been browsing the net for possible books to give. Pero iba pa rin syempre kung Tagalog pocketbook yung matanggap n'ya sa akin.

I would like to see her reaction! Hehe.

@the girl(?) I was flirting with(haha joke lang)
ehem... I think you should tell me if you're really a girl. :P

[ioeides]

she's a girl! haha. nakialam?

teka ot ako.
isa pa lang ang nababasa kong tagalog romance na pocketbook and that was ages ago. cant even remember the title. pero I will not say it's baduy. katulad nga nung sabi nung iba, relative term yun e. what might be baduy for you will not be baduy for me.

at isa pa maraming magagaling na filipino writers. who hasn't heard of bob ong?

one of these days I'll try to read yung mga sinasabi niyo. (kung may makita ako) :)

[bLack_jeweL11]

bitwise, mukhang popular yung Kristine Series by Martha Cecila, try mo yun. Although mahihirapan ka na sigurong maghanap nung mga first batch nun.. :D

You can find the whole series at the Precious Hearts bookstore. There's one in SM Manila (4th floor) and I think there's one at SM North,too. :bonkself::bop:

[bLack_jeweL11]

bitwise, mukhang popular yung Kristine Series by Martha Cecila, try mo yun. Although mahihirapan ka na sigurong maghanap nung mga first batch nun.. :D

double post

[sarkastik_ako]

black_jewel, why are you bopping yourself? :lol:

and can I just say that I really really really really :love: your avatar. :D

On topic: Meron din yata sa MoA nung PHR bookstore. *okay*

[bLack_jeweL11]

black_jewel, why are you bopping yourself? :lol:

and can I just say that I really really really really :love: your avatar. :D

On topic: Meron din yata sa MoA nung PHR bookstore. *okay*

Napapaghalataan kasi na adik ako sa Kristine Series eh. :bop::bop:

[sarkastik_ako]

para kay B by Ricky Lee looks like a nice read. will probably buy it later :D

[ohlyee13]

sana gawin din nilang e-book yung kristine series... like ko din yung sweetheart series nya parang sarap balikan ang high school life hehehe

[charisma_11]

Ang PRECIOUS HEARTS ROMANCES gagawing program ng ABS.

Starting the BUD Brothers series, and so on and so forth...

[NeoXGarde]

^
i've seen it also on commercial...^_^

[sarkastik_ako]

Ang PRECIOUS HEARTS ROMANCES gagawing program ng ABS.

Starting the BUD Brothers series, and so on and so forth...

o talaga?

i loveD the BUD BROTHERS... batch 1 and 2 :naughty:

[ozumaki34]

Is reading pocketbooks baduy? for me and in my opinion, I really find it boring and baduy in the near fact that all the stories published thier are all fictitious, and moral lessons? I don't think so!

http://www.myyearbook.com/jonathansankey
http://www.bebo.com/JonathanS7355
http://jonathansankey.hi5.com

[rhina21]

curious ako pero kse lahat ng nakikitaan ko ng mga librong ito mga tindera at yaya...at least they are reading di ba. parang sweet dreams or mills and boon nila ito. i'd never had the courage to pick up one. sama no?

[lark_2007]

i wouldnt say its baduy but all of them are crappy and ******.....no one has ever dared to break the stereotypes of the pocketbooks...the contents and story are just the same, pinalitan lang yung name....

[JeungSung]

ok lang pero mas ok pag English books kasi gagaling ka rin a English.

[grin_grin]

i wouldnt say its baduy but all of them are crappy and ******.....no one has ever dared to break the stereotypes of the pocketbooks...the contents and story are just the same, pinalitan lang yung name....

such a sweeping statement. "no one" you say? lahat ba ng tagalog pocketbook na na-publish nabasa mo na?

[weetzie_bat]

oo baduy!!!

[wirehead]

what i find baduy are people who read (or watch movies for that matter) and think that a story is good only if it has a moral lesson. ang ganyang paniniwala ay dapat iniiwan sa elementary.

i would agree that most tagalog pocketbooks (hindi yung filipiniana na literature a, iba yun) are crappy. but they are entertaining, charming even, in their own ways.

if these are what gets the uneducated, 'baduy' crowd to read and promote literacy in whatever form, then these are some of the best things that ever happened to philippine literature. at least nagbabasa sila ate at kuya.

[eyren]

You can find the whole series at the Precious Hearts bookstore. There's one in SM Manila (4th floor) and I think there's one at SM North,too. :bonkself::bop:


wala pong phr outlet sa sm north..

[sarkastik_ako]

if these are what gets the uneducated, 'baduy' crowd to read and promote literacy in whatever form, then these are some of the best things that ever happened to philippine literature. at least nagbabasa sila ate at kuya.

oo nga. at least nagbabasa kami!!!!

[holydevil]

eto yung mga binabasa namin ng mga kaklase ko nung high school... naghihiraman pa kami... sabay bulong na "nasa page 25 ang love scene..." wahahaha :lol:


but seriously, i find nothing baduy in reading or writing tagalog romance novels. nasa plot at pagsusulat ng writer yan. ang alam ko, a lot of credible writers are into writing romance novels. ilan pa nga sa kanila ay palanca-award winning pa. yun nga lang eh, isang disadvantage is when writing them, a writer is constrained to shape it to the idea of what makes a romance novel, i.e. the happy ending. so sa start pa lang may restrictions na.

[lark_2007]

such a sweeping statement. "no one" you say? lahat ba ng tagalog pocketbook na na-publish nabasa mo na?

like as if i have to read all of them to find what i meant....and were talking about pocketbooks, right?

[grin_grin]

^ Your reply proves my point. You are generalizing.

It is not my intent to argue, I was merely pointing out that to claim that “NO ONE has ever dared to break the stereotypes of the pocketbooks” is wrong unless you’ve read EVERY Tagalog romance pocketbook ever published. You should have used the term MOST instead of “NO ONE”

Quite a number of Ariel’s and Rose Tan’s work and some of Vanessa’s are none stereotypical. Here's an example, SAMO SA LANGIT by Vanessa. The story revolves around a pastor and a married woman. Stereotypical? Not.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/december23/vanessa/samo.jpg (http://www.freewebs.com/vanessa_sample/gems.html)

Isang mapanganib na laro ng pag-ibig.

Pastor Silvio Cardona at Mrs. Adriana Castro.

Dalawang taong magkaiba ang direksiyong tinahak ngunit minsa'y pinagbuklod ng abot-langit na kasalanan...

[SaNdiE]

what i find baduy are people who read (or watch movies for that matter) and think that a story is good only if it has a moral lesson. ang ganyang paniniwala ay dapat iniiwan sa elementary.

i would agree that most tagalog pocketbooks (hindi yung filipiniana na literature a, iba yun) are crappy. but they are entertaining, charming even, in their own ways.

if these are what gets the uneducated, 'baduy' crowd to read and promote literacy in whatever form, then these are some of the best things that ever happened to philippine literature. at least nagbabasa sila ate at kuya.

i agree with this.. dati i find it really baduy.. pero i've tried reading some of those tagalog pocketbooks, and to be honest i also found them interesting and entertaining.. :D

[lark_2007]

^ Your reply proves my point. You are generalizing.

It is not my intent to argue, I was merely pointing out that to claim that “NO ONE has ever dared to break the stereotypes of the pocketbooks” is wrong unless you’ve read EVERY Tagalog romance pocketbook ever published. You should have used the term MOST instead of “NO ONE”

Quite a number of Ariel’s and Rose Tan’s work and some of Vanessa’s are none stereotypical. Here's an example, SAMO SA LANGIT by Vanessa. The story revolves around a pastor and a married woman. Stereotypical? Not.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/december23/vanessa/samo.jpg (http://www.freewebs.com/vanessa_sample/gems.html)

Isang mapanganib na laro ng pag-ibig.

Pastor Silvio Cardona at Mrs. Adriana Castro.

Dalawang taong magkaiba ang direksiyong tinahak ngunit minsa'y pinagbuklod ng abot-langit na kasalanan...

Point taken. And yes I am generalizing.

But my argument was why is it always have to do with love triangles or love affairs of some sort?

[grin_grin]

^ falls under the romance genre that's why

[freelancer07]

Many Filipinos especially those elitists find reading Tagalog pocketbooks cheap. Mas gusto nila yung mga English pocketbooks na sa tingin nila ay mas sosyal tignan.
I don't have anything against reading Tagalog pocketbooks and I don't find it baduy. Actually it's better because you'll really be drawn into it for it's written in our own native tongue. I think it's just that most romantic Tagalog pocketbooks have the same plot. Iba-iba lang yung setting, characters at takbo ng istorya pero ganun pa din yung katapusan-happy ending. Walang masyadong twist.

[TheKoreanDoll]

I have read a Tagalog pocketbook that's really good. I don't think it's baduy 'cause it has an interesting plot. Try reading it. It's a Trilogy, though.

Twilight Rage by Arielle (Book 1 of Steel Hearts Trilogy)

[kathy31]

i'm not saying that pinoy pocketbooks suck (because i read them)... but they are kind of "baduy"... a lot of pinoy pocketbooks story lines are so predictable and unrealistic... some characters do something that normal people don't do in real life...

but admittedly, i get hooked with pinoy pocketbooks when i start reading one... maybe because of the fact that i want to get something done when i already started it...

and... does anyone of you know josie aventurado's DIAMANTE SERIES?? the series includes the characters: AUGUST NICOLAS DIAMOND, GEMMA AVELINO, LA SILVERIO, & DIAMANTE AVELINO...
it's about a billionaire and his heiresses...
was josie aventurado able to finish this series??? because i really like it but i don't have all the series...

please tell me what happened to every heiresses' love story... especially luis alphonso silverio & di avelino's love story...

i am so so so "bitin" and curious.. because the series is very interesting....

please please please inform me if anyone of you has this series...

SALAMAT PO! :-)

[caffeine_kittie]

depende sa taste siguro ng nagbabasa...
i don't think its baduy, kasi my bestfriend is a published writer in My Special Valentine, nakaka 5 books na sya..although hindi pa released yung iba...

and im also crossing my fingers for my novels to be published.

sarap basahin ng tagalog pocketbooks. lalo na pag emote mode ka :)

[OPN]

This is my first post on this thread.

I think the negative connotation of the Tagalog romance novels/stories as "baduy" is not so much about the story or the plot lines but more of the language use and the target market (masa) its aimed for.

I am actually glad that they've become popular because it entices people to read and when you have readers it allows writers a venue for their creativity. I also love romance novels. I grow up reading them. I have fond memories of grandmas contemporaries and my mom, aunties reading the komiks and following the series religiously and same as thru the stories in Liwayway, Bisaya. And by reading you let your imagination run away and brings you to places and brings the characters to life. I actually feel this is more intellectually stimulating than just watching tele-novelas.

I've seen a lot of Tagalog pocket books in the bookstore but I haven't had the chance of reading one. Maybe I'll give it a try one of these days.

I think para maiba one of these prolific writers will attempt to do some historical romance books. O baka meron na nag-attempt? I think if Western writers can sell Regency romance novels, then maybe there is a market for romance set in 18th century Philippines. :)

[haveevee13]

..hmm..well..nag-eenjoy ako pag nagbabasa ako ng tagalog pocket books..saka dun ko nakikita yung creativity of every Filipino..and we should be really proud of that..kasi those pocket books make every Filipino happy...kaya yun..pero sometimes i found other tagalog pocket books baduy..kasi minsan OA na..hehe...yun..pero nakakatuwa:)

[arielle_xchange]

try reading VANESSA and CAMILLA novels and the word baduy will have a new meaning

[Larry S.]

All romance novelists deserve to go to a special hell for literary dropouts.

[chimei]

kabilang siguro ako sa mga baduy but I actually like Kristine Series by Martha Cecilia good story really entertaining

[wirehead]

All romance novelists deserve to go to a special hell for literary dropouts.

grabe naman this!

romance is an entirely different genre of literature in itself. marami rin akong natututunan dito, lalo na kung maganda ang pagkakasulat. some romance novels are far better than dan brown's or paulo coelho's books.

for those who like reading only 'serious' literature, sabihin na lang nating parang fast food ang romance novels while the former is fine dining. syempre mas masarap at mas maganda ang fine dining but fast food has its own take on the palate. not to mention na mas mura sya syempre at walang kaartehang involved sa pagkain sa kanya. walang sustansya masyado pero walang sangkatutak na kubyertos na nakalaan para sa bawat putahe na ihahain.

refreshing magbasa ng romance novels pag kakatapos mo lang magbasa ng mabigat na libro at kailangan mo munang ipahinga ang utak mo.

at the very least, we can call it girl porn. di kasi masyado visual ang mga babae so pics wont do the trick :D kailangang ma-stimulate ang imagination, use really nice words to describe the deed at ma-involve ang feelings. i read romance novels (english man o tagalog) when i want to touch myself. oops, off topic na.

[Agent Kusinero]

Baduy ba??
Palagay ko hindi..
Maraming magagaling tayong mga Manunulat na talagang maipagmamalaki mo ang mga gawa.
sa Ganang akin kanya kanya lang namang pananaw yan. Nasasabi lang nating badoy kasi masyado a
tayong mababalutan ng idelohiyang dayuhan. Kung kabaduyan ituring ang gawang pinoy. Sino pa ang tatangkilik sa gawang pilipino...

Para sa akin hindi kabaduyan yun.. Ang aking anak ay manunulat din.. ito ang kanyang mga Gawa.

http://kwentongpagibig-joanne.blogspot.com/

Pasensya na po akoy baguhan lamang.. ito ang aking kauna-unahang post

[marky_83]

i don't like Tagalog pocketbooks, and I don't plan on reading one.. not because its baduy but because i can't stand romantic novels in general. Sparks? oh please. hahaha :lol:

stimulation ba kamo? try reading "Bulaklak ng Maynila." if this baby doesn't turn u on, i don't know what will :bop: even our househelp liked it :naughty:

[sochaux]

sorry. pero oo, baduy.

[dahlgren28]

reading your comment leads me to one shamful conclusion.

you don't read tagalog pocketbooks, alright. BUT you NEITHER read english books because of these concrete evidences:

1. IN THE NEAR FACT? i suppose you mean, FOR THE MERE FACT.
2. THIER? ok, typo error. but hey IT'S STILL A WRONG GRAMMAR! English 101 for you: you should omit that crap word and just say "all the stories published *thier* are all fictitious blah blah blah
3. , AND MORAL LESSONS? I DONT THINK SO ----> WHHHAAATTT?!?!?!

you don't read tagalog nor english pocketbooks and you are too ambitious to even write a very simple opinion in a correct english grammar. having said this, i CATEGORICALLY say that YOU DON'T READ AT ALL! A lot more shameful than reading tagalog pocketbooks right?!

and to those who says these writings are BADUY, i just have simple questions for you guys, WHY ARE YOU IN THIS THREAD? what did you ask Mr. Google to search? If in case you've googled "julie garwood" and if in an impossible way this thread was included as one of the search results, WHY DID YOU BOTHER TO OPEN AND POST A REPLY?

hahaha....

[dahlgren28]

Is reading pocketbooks baduy? for me and in my opinion, I really find it boring and baduy in the near fact that all the stories published thier are all fictitious, and moral lessons? I don't think so!

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reading your comment leads me to one shamfule conclusion.

you don't read tagalog pocketbooks, alright. BUT you NEITHER read english books because of these concrete evidences:

1. IN THE NEAR FACT? i suppose you mean, FOR THE MERE FACT.
2. THIER? ok, typo error. but hey IT'S STILL A WRONG GRAMMAR! English 101 for you: you should omit that crap word and just say "all the stories published *thier* are all fictitious blah blah blah
3. , AND MORAL LESSONS? I DONT THINK SO ----> WHHHAAATTT?!?!?!

you don't read tagalog nor english pocketbooks and you are too ambitious to even write a very simple opinion in a correct english grammar. having said this, i CATEGORICALLY say that YOU DON'T READ AT ALL! A lot more shameful than reading tagalog pocketbooks right?!

and to those who says these writings are BADUY, i just have simple questions for you guys, WHY ARE YOU IN THIS THREAD? what did you ask Mr. Google to search? If in case you've googled "julie garwood" and if in an impossible way this thread was included as one of the search results, WHY DID YOU BOTHER TO OPEN AND POST A REPLY?

hahaha.... endless boo for you!!!!

[DarkSwan_xiv]

i haven't tried reading Tagalog pocketbooks, but not because they are Tagalog. i'm not fond of romance novels, and i prefer reading sci-fi novels. but, if there is an opportunity to read a Tagalog pocketbook, why not.

tangkilikin ang sariling atin.

[emerald23]

naku naman, hindi naman baduy ang tagalog pocketbooks.

sa mga mahilig magbasa ng tagalog pocketbooks. mabuhay kayo!

ang dami kayang magagaling na writers ng Pinoy Pocketbooks.

Martha Cecilia
http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv251/pinoypocketbooks/martha260x176.jpg

Rose Tan
http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv251/pinoypocketbooks/bud260x176.jpg (http://pinoypocketbooks.com)

Vanessa.. Arielle. at maraming marami pang iba.


visit nyo ang www.pinoypocketbooks.com para malaman nyo.

:)

[ender_1111]

I read pinoy pocketbooks in my teenage years. Mostly the horror pocketbooks that I would buy for less than 10 pesos... And I can say that it is definitely not "baduy"

[xinammon]

I've been reading them since HS-- and haven't found them baduy, not now-not ever. :) My favorites are Rose Tan, Jasmine Esperanza, and Vanessa. Love the Kristine Series too, can't wait for its tv adaptation! Hmmm, sino kaya si Bernard? :P

Nyway, the stories may be outlandish sometimes and there are some plots that are overused, but that's romantic lit for you-- if it's not the stuff dreams are made of, then it's not worth reading.

[baby_scorpius]

Tagalog pocketbook are baduy?! Naku hindi naman.....

There are many tagalog stories to choose from,depende sa type mong basahin. I like adventure and mystery series (B1 gang especially). Later in my years I read romance pocketbooks and I admit may ilang novel writers na medyo nasobrahan na ng imagination thus hindi na kapani-paniwala *** story..OA na kumbaga.Hehehe...

[twinkyboy]

depende sa style ng pagsulat. sa english din naman me mga baduy, tulad ng Twilight series, mababaw naman ang style nung author, mas ok pa ang style ni jk rowling.

[pnay808]

i don't think it's baduy.i used to read tagalog pocketbooks too noong teenager pa ako.enjoy naman magbasa ng pocketbooks.depende lang talaga sa trip ng tao.meron ibang tao nababaduyan talaga pag romance novel na ang pinaguusapan..ako din naman,d ako mahilig sa mga sci-fi..so iba iba lang talaga ang taste ng tao pagdating sa books.

[musings1981]

Sino sa inyo may books pa ng Valentine Romances. Gusto ko sanang bumili ng marami. PM me naman kung meron kayo.thanks!

[sarkastik_ako]

I've been reading them since HS-- and haven't found them baduy, not now-not ever. :) My favorites are Rose Tan, Jasmine Esperanza, and Vanessa. Love the Kristine Series too, can't wait for its tv adaptation! Hmmm, sino kaya si Bernard? :P


LOL, kung ia-adapt yun ng channel 2, baka maubusan na sila ng Leading men. o kaya 10 years na yung show hindi pa rin tapos :rotflmao::rotflmao:

[Uber Doog]

Sa palagay ko hindi baduy yan. Iba talaga ang abilidad na ginagamit sa pagbabasa at panonood ng tv o cine. Mahirap maging passive reader at kahit papaano, gumagana ang abilidad mo sa pag-intindi at pag-buo ng situasyon sa iyong isip. Ang daloy ng kuwento naman, ibang katangian naman iyan.

Kaya hindi baduy, 'pre *okay*

[paddylast]

maybe 'am baduy --but since my sister lent me this tagalog pocketbook entitled "For Keeps" by Rose Tan, I started reading all her PB's.

[czeree_cherry]

hello! mern po ba dito nagbebenta ng mga preowned phr pocjetbooks? gusto ko sana bumili.

:)

[roje_fernandez]

For those who loves pinoy pocketbooks, try reading my stories on my site. Im offering different stories (drama, romance, comedy, fantasy, sex-horror and adult stories). I upload one chapter almost everyday. I also put some tv series trivia and polls to put some spices on your readings. Check it now guys and enjoy reading. http://internetserye.wordpress.com/

[roje_fernandez]

For those who loves pinoy pocketbooks, try reading my stories on my site. Im offering different stories (drama, romance, comedy, fantasy, sex-horror and adult stories). I upload one chapter almost everyday. I also put some tv series trivia and polls to put some spices on your readings. Check it now guys and enjoy reading. http://internetserye.wordpress.com/

[roje_fernandez]

for those who like reading tagalog stories, try to check my site. Im offering different genre na kaaaliwan nyo.

http://internetserye.wordpress.com/

[roje_fernandez]

http://internetserye.wordpress.com/

For those who loves pinoy pocketbooks, try reading my stories on my site. Im offering different stories (drama, romance, comedy, fantasy, sex-horror and adult stories). I upload one chapter almost everyday. I also put some tv series trivia and polls to put some spices on your readings. Check it now guys and enjoy reading. http://internetserye.wordpress.com/

HALINA SA DILIM - Kuwento ng isang babaeng may misyon na kumain ng maselang parte ng labintatlong lalaking hayok sa laman at patayin ito upang mabura ang sumpa sa kanilang lahi.

IKAPITONG BF - Nahulaan si Cindy na ang ikapito niyang magiging boyfriend ang kanyang "soulmate" at makakasama habambuhay. Hudyat kaya ito upang ma-manipulate niya ang kanyang lovelife at mapili ang gustong mapangasawa?

Patikim pa lang iyan sa mga magpapasabik sa inyong pagbabasa. Kaya go and read na!!!

http://internetserye.wordpress.com/

http://internetserye.wordpress.com/

http://internetserye.wordpress.com/

http://internetserye.wordpress.com/

For those who loves pinoy pocketbooks, try reading my stories on my site. Im offering different stories (drama, romance, comedy, fantasy, sex-horror and adult stories). I upload one chapter almost everyday. I also put some tv series trivia and polls to put some spices on your readings. Check it now guys and enjoy reading. http://internetserye.wordpress.com/

HALINA SA DILIM - Kuwento ng isang babaeng may misyon na kumain ng maselang parte ng labintatlong lalaking hayok sa laman at patayin ito upang mabura ang sumpa sa kanilang lahi.

IKAPITONG BF - Nahulaan si Cindy na ang ikapito niyang magiging boyfriend ang kanyang "soulmate" at makakasama habambuhay. Hudyat kaya ito upang ma-manipulate niya ang kanyang lovelife at mapili ang gustong mapangasawa?

Patikim pa lang iyan sa mga magpapasabik sa inyong pagbabasa. Kaya go and read na!!!

http://internetserye.wordpress.com/

http://internetserye.wordpress.com/

http://internetserye.wordpress.com/

[roje_fernandez]

http://internetserye.wordpress.com/

May mga original tagalog stories ako sa site na ito like drama, romance, fantasy, horror and adult story (pero hindi bastos)


http://frtim.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/crying.jpg

ALMA

Kuwento ng isang babaeng may suicide history ang pamilya. Nagpatulong sa kanyang bestfriend na si Albert (na matagal nang may pagtingin sa kanya upang hanapin ang nawawalang asawa. Hanggang saan sila dadalhin ng kanilang paghahanap?

http://www.gravenimagetattoo.net/new/images/Paintings/SpiderLady.jpg

Halina sa Dilim

Isinumpa ang buong angkan ni Halina at naging mga taong gagamba, dahil sa kanilang ninuno na nanggahasa sa isang batang babaeng anak ng isang satanista. Isang paraan lamang ang kailangang gawin upang mabura ang sumpa – ang ikalabintatlong babae sa pamilya, kailangang kumain ng maselang parte g katawan ng labingtatlong lalakeng hayok sa laman na makakanaig at papatayin niya. Magagawa ba ni Halina ang tungkulin iniatang sa kanya?

http://internetserye.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/b-spring_g.jpg

Mariposa

Dumating ang isang mahiwagang sanggol sa buhay ni Gina. Sa bawat araw na nagdaan ay unti-unti itong lumaki. Ilang araw pa at naging isa itong babaeng mariposa. Ano ang magiging papel nito sa buhay niya?


Tatlo lamang ito sa mga kuwentong tampok.

http://internetserye.wordpress.com/

http://internetserye.wordpress.com/

[...wakaranai]

i haven't read Tagalog pocketbooks, but i have read Trese. it's a Filipino-made comicbook about supernatural phenomenon.
hindi kasi ako mahilig sa mga romance novels.

[roje_fernandez]

For those who really love to read. Check out my blogsite. I offer different stories like drama, romance, fantasy, horror, comedy and adult stories. It's like a pocketbook or novel, pero chapter by chapter and almost everyday ay nag-a-upload ako ng mga chapters. Check it out at garantisadong mahu-hook kayo

http://internetserye.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/cropped-internetserye-logo-2.jpg

http://internetserye.wordpress.com/

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http://internetserye.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/b-spring_g.jpg

MARIPOSA
Dumating ang isang mahiwagang sanggol sa buhay ni Gina. Ilang araw lang at naging isa itong babaeng mariposa. Ano ang magiging papel nito sa buhay niya?

http://internetserye.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/kagat-sa-apoy1.jpg

KAGAT SA APOY
Payapa ang pagsasama ng mag-asawang Jenny at Yano. Ngunt sa pakiramadam ni Jenny ay may kulang. Mayroon siyang hinahanap na hindi na maramdaman sa asawa. Dadating sa kanilang buhay si Emily. Ano ang magiging kaugnayan nito sa mag-asawa?

Dalawa pa lang iyan sa tampok na kuwento sa Internet Serye na halos araw-araw ang labas ng mga kabanata. Read and Enjoy!!!
:)

[franz_cutieboy]

For me, tagalog pocketbooks are not "baduy". Wala namang pinag-iba ito sa mga english romance novels. Wala namang pinag-iba ang tagalog pocketbooks sa mga fiction novels nina J.K. Rowling, Nora Roberts, at iba pang mga authors sa english contemporaty literature. Iba lang ng lengguwaheng ginamit at bilang ng mga salita dahil sa pocketbook, limitado lang ang pwedeng ilimbag ng mga publisher. Kung tatangkilikin lang nating mga pinoy ang mga Filipino novelist natin, magiging mataas ang tingin natin sa pocketbooks. Mura lang ang pocketbook kaya sinasabi ng iba na jologs ito, baduy at kung anu-ano pa.

Maraming mga sikat na pinoy writers ang nagsimula lamang sa pocketbook. ang iba ay nagsimula sa komiks.

Nakakalungkot isipin na marami sana tayong magagaling na nobelista ngunit dahil na rin sa kawalan ng market ay nagkakasya na lamang sa pocketbook. Pero kung bibigyan lamang ng pansin, kayang-kaya nating makipag-tagisan sa mga banyagang authors.

[roje_fernandez]

http://internetserye.wordpress.com/

http://internetserye.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/cropped-internetserye-logo-2.jpg

For those who loves pinoy pocketbooks, try reading my stories on my site. Im offering different stories (drama, romance, comedy, fantasy, sex-horror and adult stories). I upload one chapter almost everyday. I also put some tv series trivia and polls to put some spices on your readings. Check it now guys and enjoy reading. http://internetserye.wordpress.com/

http://internetserye.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/spiderlady1.jpg
HALINA SA DILIM - Kuwento ng isang babaeng may misyon na kumain ng maselang parte ng labintatlong lalaking hayok sa laman at patayin ito upang mabura ang sumpa sa kanilang lahi.

http://internetserye.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/boyfriend_and_girlfriend1.jpg
IKAPITONG BF - Nahulaan si Cindy na ang ikapito niyang magiging boyfriend ang kanyang "soulmate" at makakasama habambuhay. Hudyat kaya ito upang ma-manipulate niya ang kanyang lovelife at mapili ang gustong mapangasawa?

Patikim pa lang iyan sa mga magpapasabik sa inyong pagbabasa. Kaya go and read na!!!

http://internetserye.wordpress.com/

http://internetserye.wordpress.com/