MVP: How does the NCAA pick the best?

[AltarBoy^_^]

A couple of pexers complained that Jay Sagad didn't deserve the MVP award this season simply because the Blazers never made it to the final four. And they say the league sucks because other leagues voted for their MVPs like the PBA, PBL, and the UAAP.

I ask other pexers here to enlighten us with their knowledge as to how a player becomes an MVP in the NCAA.

How do we choose?

Do they vote in the NCAA MANCOM?

Do we need the votes of fans and students to determine the MVP for a season?

Should we throw away the statistics at the end of the season?

If so, then should we change the Valuable in MVP into Voted since some pexers think that it's unfair?

MVP = Popularity?

[Rocker09]

the MVP award is based on statistics alone, I think it would be better if they make it 70-30...70% coming from statistics and 30% coming from the voted of qualified persons

[boredtoday]

maganda siguro kung

60% stats
30% votes
10% team w/l percentage for games where player started

o e di may weight na lahat ng factors ( stats, popular vote, player impact )

[spongklong]

^^i'd rather have a small percentage on the votes.. kasi lugi yun less popular players.. 60%stats, 30%win-loss card and 10% on votes

[boredtoday]

^ pwede rin... pero oks lang naman yun kasi syempre, the voting group would be composed of 8 team coaches, trusted sports journalists who cover the games, and other unbiased people who knows basketball...

[SLiCK08]

^ see...now you know what I was talking about...The problem with you is you criticize and never think critically...Did I ever said na statistics don't matter? NAh, I said na there should be also voting...

dude...may percentage ang stats and voting, hindi pure voting lang...ok?

[marylandknight]

okay, may voting, may statistical basis. pero ang bottom line is. how far did you take your team ? the numbers of sagad, najorda, espinas and aban were almost the same. pero nasan ang csb, at nasan ang pcu, letran and ssc-r after the eliminations ? kawawa naman kasi yung mga players who worked hard and succeded in making their team winners. specially in the case of najorda, on paper csb looked stronger than ssc-r pero look at how ssc performed this year. i say lets reward and recognize excellence. and pardon me altar boy, but csb's performance this year was no where near the level of how the "elite" teams played this year. malay niyo maybe next year ? huwag niyo lang gayahin yung ginawa nung school sa tapat niyo ha, illegal yun.

[spongklong]

^ don't worry! di gawain ng CSB yun since iba ang recruitment process namin.. either galing province yun mga players or transferees from other schools ang mga players namin.

as for najorda, he was a shoo in for some of the awards kaya lang talaga nagkaroon sya ng suspension kaya nawala ang award niya.. he could have been the MVP for me.

for years already, medyo di naman talaga nagkaroon ng magandang selection process ang NCAA (even the UAAP perhaps) in choosing the awards.. perhaps this is the time to make a change.

[AltarBoy^_^]

^ see...now you know what I was talking about...The problem with you is you criticize and never think critically...Did I ever said na statistics don't matter? NAh, I said na there should be also voting...

dude...may percentage ang stats and voting, hindi pure voting lang...ok?

Did I say that stats didnt matter to you? I simply asked kung balewala na ba ang stats? Rockero09 answered our question. Stats alone determine who's the MVP for the whole season. I criticize but never think critically? Now that's new. I was trying to be objective, not subjective. :glee:

May percentage ang stats and voting? Is this a researched data? Nag-suggest lang ang ibang pexers dito na dapat may percentage ang popularity votes maliban sa stats. Are you saying we should change or are you saying its already changed? Enlighten me please! :D

marylandknight - Like Rocker09 said, stats alone determines the MVP. Sayang nga si Najorda dahil may suspension siya. Pero unfair naman kay Jay Sagad na gumawa para sa Blazers kahit di nakapasok sila sa final four. Kaya nga may ginagawang Finals MVP diba? Para may konsuelo sa gumawa till the championship series.

Second, you don't have to worry about eligibilities in our side. I think the NCAA MANCOM will be doing a similar review of member schools for next season. Tingnan na lang natin kung sino ang mahuhuli. ;)

Lastly, I do think that they should change the percentages para naman hindi kawawa ang mga masisipag sa ibang team, kahit alam natin na kinulang sila sa stats. Kawawa naman ang hindi popular player diba? :down:

[marylandknight]

spongklong,

your right, najorda was suspended for 1 game, so that pretty much disqualified him.

and its nice to hear that csb's recruiting process is different from that of la salle. we have to keep our league clean right.

good luck to all of us next season

[marylandknight]

okay here are the numbers of some key players from last seasons ncaa games

aban - 13.4 pts sagad - 11.9 pts
7.1 rebs 10.4 rebs
1.3 assists 1.7 assts
0.2 blks 1.9 blks
2.0 stls 1.3 stls
474 % fg percentage 355 % fg percentage
2.3 - turn overs 2.1 - turn overs

espinas - 13.1 pts vicente - 17.3 pts
11.4 rebs 5.9 rebs
1.1 assts 2.9 assts
1.4 blks 1.6 blks
1.3 stls 1.6 stls
496 % fg percentage 553% fg percentage
2.12 turn overs 4.5 turn overs

gonzales - 14.0 pts
4.8 rebs
2.0 assts
0.3 blks
1.6 stls
463 % fg percentage
3.3 turn overs

so if you analyze the stats, all of the players mentioned above are pretty close to each other, based on numbers.

the only difference is aban, vicente, espinas and gonzales led their team to the dance. while sagad didnt.

[SLiCK08]

ah ok...hehe sorry for the misunderstanding

*** sinusuggest ko is stats and voting may percentage...

pero...sana wag mo na nga sabihin *** dapat VOTED na lang *** V sa MVP...geez...sobra ka naman magisip...eh samantalang other leagues are doing voting...

ganito kasi yun...

The selection of MVP candidates will be made upon the basis of the statistics assessment, the number of victories obtained and their importance...

Then the votes will take place like, for the 1st choice=10 pts. 2nd=8 pts...etc...just a sample...

[AltarBoy^_^]

ah ok...hehe sorry for the misunderstanding

*** sinusuggest ko is stats and voting may percentage...

pero...sana wag mo na nga sabihin *** dapat VOTED na lang *** V sa MVP...geez...sobra ka naman magisip...eh samantalang other leagues are doing voting...

ganito kasi yun...

The selection of MVP candidates will be made upon the basis of the statistics assessment, the number of victories obtained and their importance...

Then the votes will take place like, for the 1st choice=10 pts. 2nd=8 pts...etc...just a sample...

Ok so the VOTED in V was a sarcastic question, I apologize. :)

I do believe we are making progress with our discussion. And I do believe that there should be an overhaul in qualifications for the MVP plum. Sayang lang talaga si Najorda. ;)

By the way, can anyone tell us who came out as the finals mvp? :D

[SLiCK08]

^ Bautista....

[Rocker09]

^yup, and I believe he truly deserved it....I like the 60-30-10 suggestion where 30% comes from votes from qualified persons