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cj_lo
Sep 25, 2005, 02:02 AM
Apat ang mawawala sa Letran ngunit may isang magbabalik

Ang Pilipino STAR Ngayon 09/25/2005

Sa pagdiriwang ng Letran Knights para sa kanilang ika-16 overall championship, isang player ang kanilang inalala.

Ayon kay head coach Louie Alas, nagbabalak si 6-foot-1 Ronjay Enrile na bumalik sa koponan sa 82nd season ng National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) sa susunod na taon.

"Pero siyempre, he has to start all over again. Dapat sumunod siya kung ano ang gusto naming ipagawa sa kanya in terms of playing for the team," wika ni Alas. "Pero I’m hoping na makabalik nga siya next year."

Si Enrile ang siyang naging sandata ng Knights sa kanilang huling kampeonato noong 2003 bago nagkaroon ng problema sa kanyang academics.

"Actually, gusto ko si Ronjay sa team namin. Mabait siyang bata. Wala ring problema sa mga teammates niya. Siguro kung naglaro siya ngayon baka na-sweep pa namin ‘yung championship series namin ng PCU," ani Alas.

Sa kanyang pagkawala sa NCAA, naglaro si Enrile sa National Basketball Conference (NBC).

Natikman ng 42-anyos na si Alas ang kanyang ikatlong NCAA crown para sa Knights nang igiya ang Intramu-ros-based cagers sa 2-1 tagumpay sa Dolphins sa kanilang best-of-three championship series.

Sa susunod na taon, wala nang masasandalang Eric Rodriguez, JP Alcaraz, Billy Ray Anabo at 6-foot-7 Mark Andaya ang Letran.

"Pero may mga players na akong maglalaro sa mga spot nila, kaya parang wala ring malaking problema sa team next year," sabi ni Alas.

Inihandog ni Alas kina Rodriguez, Alcaraz, Anabo at Andaya ang korona bukod pa sa pagtatakda ng isang special event sa Oktubre para parangalan ang apat na Knights.

staunch
Sep 26, 2005, 05:41 PM
Kung magkakatotoo man, *****, si Ronjay ang ilalagay sa spot ni JP Alcaraz. Medyo pareho sila ng galaw eh.

Blue Knight
Sep 26, 2005, 06:18 PM
i had a dream the night before the Game 2...babalik si RonJay. I dunno kung magiging totoo.

spongklong
Sep 26, 2005, 06:37 PM
honestly, mas maganda ang nilaro ng letran this season without ronjay compared to last year.. dumami ang options at lumabas ang tunay na laro nila aldave, alcaraz and especially aban.

and i also doubt if he can still comeback since ronjay is already playing in the NBC.. i think that league is not considred an amateur league..

souljah_boy
Sep 26, 2005, 08:46 PM
^^I agree. Letran became more explosive without Ronjay. Then again, with four vital cogs vacated next year, the return of Ronjay might come in handy for the Knights. Though I know that Letran won't have much options compared to this year with the departure of Anabo, Andaya, Alcaraz, and Rodriguez, Ronjay will definitely be needed and will lessen coach Louie's problems with the four players out for next year.

Who knows? Coach Louie has always something up his sleeves.

SLiCK08
Sep 26, 2005, 09:54 PM
I'm still wondering who's the player Alas will go for in the 4 and 5 spots...***** may mga bagong recruit na ** for next year...hehe

Aban,Aldave and Bautista will surely be in the starting line=up...

Note Guys napansin nyo ba na si Azul eh binigyan ng more playing time nung finals. Aside from defending Castro, maybe Alas honed his skills for the next season, as he can play the 2 spot, medyo di ko kasi nagustuhan nung nag PG **, medyo kulang pa sa playmaking and dribbling skills, kabado lang siguro kaya madalas naagawan or naiintercept mga passes nya.

I sure hope na may solid center and PF tau, so Aban can play the 3 spot para makagalaw ** ng mabuti.

Yohei_Mito
Sep 27, 2005, 08:38 AM
wag na lang siya bumalik...yun *** maitutulong nya sa letran next year...mas maganda ang rotation ng players and ng mga plays....

spongklong
Sep 27, 2005, 08:45 AM
i heard there is a player already for the 4or5 spot for letran..

anyways the spots vacated by alcaraz (is this true na 2 years lang sya maglaro sa letran?) rodriguez and anabo are not the playing positions of ronjay.. rodriguez may be replaced by mondragon. i saw this guy play and he's got those big man skills! kaya malakas pa din front line niyo next year! and yes jazul was the surprise package of coach alas in the finals. he was like aban during his rookie year. who knows jazul might end up playing the lead role for letran in the next years to come..

iskulbukol
Sep 27, 2005, 09:28 AM
I heard may pupunta na center rookie from sbc juniors, yousif ata name nya.

Big Ticket
Sep 27, 2005, 10:28 AM
si ezer rosopa di ba nasa letran rin? yun dating center ng letran juniors?

lyndon_24
Sep 27, 2005, 10:39 AM
pwede yung ganyan sa NCAA rules??? tsk.,

J.B.
Sep 27, 2005, 10:43 AM
si Saleh Yousif yun...dati siyang team b ng beda...mabait tong taong 2 kaso may academic defficiency...

spongklong
Sep 27, 2005, 10:53 AM
^^tsaka i doubt kung pwede pa sya maglaro.. tagal na niya naglaro sa SBC di ba?

spanish^guitar
Sep 27, 2005, 12:05 PM
no way! banned sya among the players of letran...

di na sya needed sa team!

spongklong
Sep 27, 2005, 05:13 PM
^^di naman siguro.. eh di ba kakampi pa nila si ronjay nun nakaraang PBL conference?

dacs_514
Sep 27, 2005, 10:05 PM
hindi na siguro makakabalik si ronjay sa letran. kasi alam ko ang nbc commercial league na yan at bawal ang ncaa players maglaro sa commercial leagues... gudluck na lang sa kanya... magcheer na lang sya uli gaya ng ginawa niya this year.

SLiCK08
Sep 27, 2005, 10:58 PM
^ hehe, what about PBL? eh di dapat lahat *** di na naglalaro naun...I think bawal lang yung simultaneous na naglalaro kayo for both leagues, like what happened dun sa Letran squire...I'm sorry kung mali yung iniisip ko na rule ah, paki correct na lang ako kung mali.

spongklong
Sep 28, 2005, 07:44 AM
^^i may be wrong also but the PBL is categorized as an amateur league wjile the NBC is a "pro" league. anthony s can clear this things to us..

SLiCK08
Sep 29, 2005, 01:18 AM
NBC is an "amateur regional league"....only the PBA is the professional league, I think...please correct me again poh if I'm wrong...hehe

SLiCK08
Sep 29, 2005, 01:36 AM
"NCAA rules dictate that a player must not see action in outside leagues as long as the NCAA is going on."

So i guess that answer our debate...and I was correct, dapat hindi magsasabay yung paglaro sa 2 league...

And to answer why Alacaraz will play for only 2 years... I think its a matter of age eligibility, pati si Andaya, either that or graduating na sila this year. Si E-rod 5 years na sa NCAA

supafly
Sep 29, 2005, 07:55 AM
nbc is like pbl, and as long as the player doesn't play for both ncaa and nbc at the same time then it's fine.

if u guys didn't know erwin st maria played for taguig during his 1 year layoff. he came back last year stronger then ever and helped mapua to a playoff with sbc for the last f4 seat.

Myst
Sep 29, 2005, 08:09 AM
i'll just post this UAAP and NCAA rule to end all discussions...

A player can seek eligibility to play in the collegiate basketball of the UAAP or in the NCAA for only 5 years after he has graduated from high school.

Take Andaya for example, he was a recruit from another school, stayed in Letran for 1yr for residency requirement before he can play in the NCAA and now he has finished playing his two years in Letran.


actually, madaya nga yung age ni Ronjay, dinoktor yung tunay na age nya ng 2yrs para humaba playing career nya sa NCAA at hindi pa nga nakakagraduate ng highschool pa yan. Magtanong tanong lang kayo sa kabatch ni Ronjay nung 3rd yr highschool nya sa Letran. Ronjay repeated his 3rd yr highschool but the next year, 1st yr college na siya! Gulat nga yung mga letran highschool mates nya na nagcollege din sa Letran na kaparehas nila si Ronjay na 1st yr college din. Pano nangyari yun?????!!!!!!! Actually matagal ng alam itong info nito sa Letran community pero deadma mga tao sa campus. Hindi ka naman nadraft sa PBA Ronjay nor had the chance, kaya ok lang :) Karma lang yan

spongklong
Sep 29, 2005, 08:24 AM
^^easy lang dude.. madami naman nang nakakaalam niyan eh

CaRL JoHnSoN
Sep 29, 2005, 08:53 AM
^^^ ang alam ko nag take sya ng exam ng DECS. pag napasa mo yun pwede ka na mag college.

Big Ticket
Sep 29, 2005, 10:12 AM
i'll just post this UAAP and NCAA rule to end all discussions...

A player can seek eligibility to play in the collegiate basketball of the UAAP or in the NCAA for only 5 years after he has graduated from high school.



mali dude....a player can play up to 5 years in college....but he can play those 5 playing years in 8 years....its called the "5 out of 8" rule...

ang kaso kase ni alcaraz is that he played a couple of years for las pinas college so naubos na rin ang eligibility nya....ganun rin siguro si andaya...

spongklong
Sep 29, 2005, 01:19 PM
^^is it eight? parang seven lang di ba?

andaya also came from lpc.. di ko lam na si alcaraz eh dun din pala galing.

bonzieknight45
Sep 29, 2005, 08:00 PM
^^is it eight? parang seven lang di ba?

andaya also came from lpc.. di ko lam na si alcaraz eh dun din pala galing.



andaya came from mlqu and alcaraz is from lpc.

SLiCK08
Sep 30, 2005, 02:32 AM
^ pare i think age eligibility *** kay alcaraz and andaya, kasi diba 1981 *** parehas...correct me please ah...

Shemale_Lover
Sep 30, 2005, 04:40 AM
QUESTION:

bakit ba di naglaro si Ronjay Enrile for Letran this past season?????

SLiCK08
Sep 30, 2005, 01:10 PM
^a number of reasons came up

1) academic problems

2) not so academic problems, he told others na he wanted to concentrate sa studies nya (ows?)

3) attitude problem with his teammates (particularly Bautista)...

4) PBA draft ( which he didn't actually applied for)

whatever the real reason is, i bet we'll never know

souljah_boy
Sep 30, 2005, 09:22 PM
I thought he applied for the PBA draft this year? I never thought na meron siyang problem with his teammates, at all. Medyo nakakagulat ata ah. Can the Letranites attest to this?

Blue Knight
Sep 30, 2005, 09:27 PM
ayaw sya paglaruin ng alumni for one year.

Myst
Sep 30, 2005, 10:30 PM
I thought he applied for the PBA draft this year? I never thought na meron siyang problem with his teammates, at all. Medyo nakakagulat ata ah. Can the Letranites attest to this?


you should hear the jokes around campus from the students and from the players....here's my favorite...

i'll exclude the name of the player, who said this joke, "wow, ganito pala makahawak ng bola, bilog at may hangin, ang sarap pang idribble.." :rotflmao:

marylandknight
Oct 2, 2005, 02:39 AM
Thats Great News If Ronjay Is Really Going To Play Out His Last Season Next Year. Although The Boy Was Involved In A Lot Of Controversies During Season 80 That May Have Indirectly Caused Our Slide From The Top I Still Give Love To The Boy. You Know Why ?

1.cause He Almost Led The Squires To The 2000 Juniors Title.
2. Cause Despite The Pressure To Transfer To Other "high Profile" Schools, He Chose To Stay With Us. And That In Itself Speaks A Whole Lot About The Boys' Loyalty.
3. And Of Course He Did Lead Us To Title No. 15 Right ?

So Whats Done Is Done, If The Boy Is Willing To Work Hard To Earn His Old Spot Back, Then Let Him Work For It. Cause More Than Anyone, It Is He Who Deserves Another Chance.

Ronjay Pare, Good Luck Sa Pag Balik Mo Sa Letran, Bad Trip Lang Kinuha Kasi Nung Pamangkin Ko Yung Enrile Jersey Ko ( 2003 ) At Dinala Sa New York ! Anyway Good Luck Ulit. Arriba

Myst
Oct 2, 2005, 08:44 AM
have you heard what enrile was shouting in pier1 buendia after letran lost in game 1? Although lasing na siya nito when he said it.. "(*censored*), kita nyo? Hindi kaya manalo ng Letran kung wala ako!" <--this coming from a guy who spits in people's face *sigh*

marylandknight, I don't quite agree with what you wrote in your #2, cos if you knew the facts well, Ronjay already left Letran for Ateneo, he was already in the try outs..back then, Ateneo was deciding kung sino yung kukuhanin nilang player, LA Tenorio of San Beda, Ronjay Enrile of Letran and the player of Mapua(sorry, I forgot the name), but when Ateneo decided to pick Tenorio, saka lang bumalik si Enrile sa letran..sa bagay, may academic problems na nga si Enrile dito sa Letran, pano pa pag nag Ateneo siya? Maybe they found out, Tenorio is a bit smarter than Ronjay(although hindi nagkakalayo) and could survive longer in Ateneo, bakit naman magrerecruit ang Ateneo ng player kung makikickout naman


p.s. nakakaaliw ang mga "multiple usernames" dito sa pex...

jamie pagan
Oct 3, 2005, 06:29 AM
ronjay is keeping his options open and has many plans. part of the plan is to speak to alas privately this month because he is going back to school, which has always been his priority anyway. and go frm there.

to those spewing venom about the guy, think hard about what this guy has sacrificed for his family and letran. he doesn't deserve the bashing he's been getting since he led the pack high school pa lang siya. most of you who are denigrating him know **** about the guy. ganyan naman ang karamihan sa letranista eh, bash your own varsity players when they are humanly unable to deliver. di tulad ng san beda that they support their players no matter what happens.

his teamates do not hate his guts. i should know because i am close friends with every one. i am privy to all the stuff that went on leading up to his and his parents' decision (his mom had a mild stroke, if you guys must know, and needed a small fortune for treatment, and the enriles, not being rich, had to get it from somewhere, kaya nagt-decide sila na magpa-draft siya, for economic reasons) to make himself available for drafting. if you were in his shoes, wouldn't you move mountains to help your family?

he wanted to explain his position to his teamates and to the alumni, pero nagkalat na ang chismis na traidor siya before he could even say his piece, so wht did you expect the guy to do? he was there for the team. if only on the sidelines. the guy cares about letran kaya kahit na he was being pirated, he stuck it out with the school.

jeez, guys, give the man a break! lalo na ang letranistas, they eat their own young. just read your posts. nakakahiya kayo. defend to death daw kayo sa school nyo, but you inflict so much venom on your own schoolmate. whwre's the pide in that?

oscar3
Oct 3, 2005, 08:11 AM
From a basketball junkie's point of view, Enrile's absence in season 81 made Letran a much, much better team. There was better ball movement. Many players stepped up and became legitimate scoring threats. You became more harder to defend against.

If Enrile returns, and return with his style play as we all know from season 80, I am sure coaches from other teams will take it as a factor against Letran. Enrile tends to hold on that ball a little too much. From what Letran demonstrated in season 81, it may give up a lot with Enrile's old playing habits.

Of course, with the departure of 4 key players, Letran may just need a player of Ronjay's caliber even more.

I just hope that whatever be the outcome of this one, those who showed promise and improvement @81 will continue to have their share of the spotlight in season 82.

Sattelite_kid
Oct 3, 2005, 10:13 AM
I've heard a rumor na he bet P10,000 for PCU. pero di ako sure ha. just a rumor. if he really did *** siyang kwenta

jamie pagan
Oct 3, 2005, 11:38 AM
here's another unfortunate example of bashing without solid proof.

comsite_boy
Oct 3, 2005, 11:53 AM
ronjay is keeping his options open and has many plans. part of the plan is to speak to alas privately this month because he is going back to school, which has always been his priority anyway. and go frm there.

to those spewing venom about the guy, think hard about what this guy has sacrificed for his family and letran. he doesn't deserve the bashing he's been getting since he led the pack high school pa lang siya. most of you who are denigrating him know **** about the guy. ganyan naman ang karamihan sa letranista eh, bash your own varsity players when they are humanly unable to deliver. di tulad ng san beda that they support their players no matter what happens.

his teamates do not hate his guts. i should know because i am close friends with every one. i am privy to all the stuff that went on leading up to his and his parents' decision (his mom had a mild stroke, if you guys must know, and needed a small fortune for treatment, and the enriles, not being rich, had to get it from somewhere, kaya nagt-decide sila na magpa-draft siya, for economic reasons) to make himself available for drafting. if you were in his shoes, wouldn't you move mountains to help your family?

he wanted to explain his position to his teamates and to the alumni, pero nagkalat na ang chismis na traidor siya before he could even say his piece, so wht did you expect the guy to do? he was there for the team. if only on the sidelines. the guy cares about letran kaya kahit na he was being pirated, he stuck it out with the school.

jeez, guys, give the man a break! lalo na ang letranistas, they eat their own young. just read your posts. nakakahiya kayo. defend to death daw kayo sa school nyo, but you inflict so much venom on your own schoolmate. whwre's the pide in that?


wag mo naman lahatin ang mga letranista...di naman ***** lahat e puro bashing ang ginagawa kay enrile.

in personal opinion, i dont like enrile to play anymore for letran next season:

1. improvement ng team
2. camaraderie of the players
3. attitude problem

since high school kilala ko na tong tao to. i agree on what he say in pier1 buendia. ***** he done his best for Letran since nung high school pa lang, he is the one who takes charges. pero nung iniwan nya *** team at the peak before the start of the season, (Thanks naman at maganda ang resulta), mabilis nakapag adjust ang team without him. sa tingin nyo, ano ba nasa isip nya..para mahirapan ang letran at para isipin ng mga tao na di kakayanin manalo ng letran kung wala ***?well, Mr. Enrile, ganun talaga buhay...minsan kelangan mo mamili....u chose to be out of the team...well, we respected your decision, and now, you have plans of going back in Letran, Well, please respect the decisions of some Letranites especially *** mga ibang tao dyan.

Admist all the Test!
Knights do their best!

LETRAN KNIGHTS! 81 SEASON CHAMPIONS!

Yohei_Mito
Oct 3, 2005, 12:26 PM
Wag Na Lang Sya Bumalik!!!!

Sattelite_kid
Oct 3, 2005, 04:28 PM
here's another unfortunate example of bashing without solid proof.

kaya nga i'm not sure e, pero kanina nalaman ko na pumusta pala talaga ang ogag sa PCu ng ten thousand. kaya bye, bye na. nanalo naman siya first game. bye,bye toyota bye,bye knights na siya.

bluemax
Oct 4, 2005, 10:09 AM
From a basketball junkie's point of view, Enrile's absence in season 81 made Letran a much, much better team. There was better ball movement. Many players stepped up and became legitimate scoring threats. You became more harder to defend against.

If Enrile returns, and return with his style play as we all know from season 80, I am sure coaches from other teams will take it as a factor against Letran. Enrile tends to hold on that ball a little too much. From what Letran demonstrated in season 81, it may give up a lot with Enrile's old playing habits.

Of course, with the departure of 4 key players, Letran may just need a player of Ronjay's caliber even more.

I just hope that whatever be the outcome of this one, those who showed promise and improvement @81 will continue to have their share of the spotlight in season 82.

i agree with these observations. i have nothing against enrile; in fact, i was one of those who felt that he made the wrong decision in not playing for the knights in ncaa 81. however, as jamie pagan clarified, he did have his own reasons so we must respect that.

however, enrile's absence did challenge the rest of the knights to do much better this past season. and they ended up with a championship title that nobody thought they would be capable of getting.

i hope that, if and when enrile does suit up again for the knights, he will realize that this is a very different team from the one that he left in 2004. and that he will do well to adjust, rather than forcing other people to do the adjusting. if he does that, i'm sure he will be a very welcome addition to the team.

libed
Oct 4, 2005, 10:57 AM
Nice point bluemax. But personally, Enrile must not return for the sake of the team. The Knights are much better team without him.

travy
Oct 4, 2005, 11:02 AM
ronjay returning next year?!?

Who cares?

jamie pagan
Oct 4, 2005, 02:36 PM
i agree with these observations. i have nothing against enrile; in fact, i was one of those who felt that he made the wrong decision in not playing for the knights in ncaa 81. however, as jamie pagan clarified, he did have his own reasons so we must respect that.

however, enrile's absence did challenge the rest of the knights to do much better this past season. and they ended up with a championship title that nobody thought they would be capable of getting.

i hope that, if and when enrile does suit up again for the knights, he will realize that this is a very different team from the one that he left in 2004. and that he will do well to adjust, rather than forcing other people to do the adjusting. if he does that, i'm sure he will be a very welcome addition to the team.


thanks for the sobering thought, bluemax.

if the guy refuses to learn from his experience of the past year, it's his loss, and he is very aware of that. he knows that if he doesn't mend his ways, he is off the court and out the door. he realized, rudely i think, that he is not indispensable.

marylandknight
Oct 6, 2005, 10:16 PM
ah ganon ba he tried out for ateneo ? pero past na yun di ba ? and i feel that if he is still eligible, he could do a lot for us next year. we need him because of the graduation of alcaraz. Lets all give the guy a chance di ba ? siguro naman after all that happened eh natuto na siya. By the way any news tungkol sa replacement nila anday and rodriguez ? Napaka vital kasi ng roles nila sa championship run natin this year. yung mga junior players ba natin na pirate na ? Sana they play for the seniors, particularly. GREEN, TAGARDA, LATONIO and DEL ROSARIO. Again thanks for the info. ARRIBA

Taurus.45
Oct 8, 2005, 02:42 AM
HINDI na puwedeng bumalik si Ronjay. Ang National Basketball Conference o NBC ay professional league. Ano 'to, lokohan?

SLiCK08
Oct 8, 2005, 02:57 PM
^nyak...ok ka lang? amateur regional league ang NBC...

Enrile is playing for Harbour/Bacchus-Manila, lam ko may kasama din sya isa pang former knight...nasa Finals sila ng North Division,against Cavite ata...

Enrile can still play for 1 more year sa NCAA...

bonzieknight45
Oct 8, 2005, 04:30 PM
kaya nga i'm not sure e, pero kanina nalaman ko na pumusta pala talaga ang ogag sa PCu ng ten thousand. kaya bye, bye na. nanalo naman siya first game. bye,bye toyota bye,bye knights na siya.


totoo 'to...

EcKo_01
Oct 9, 2005, 03:50 AM
i'll just post this UAAP and NCAA rule to end all discussions...

A player can seek eligibility to play in the collegiate basketball of the UAAP or in the NCAA for only 5 years after he has graduated from high school.

Take Andaya for example, he was a recruit from another school, stayed in Letran for 1yr for residency requirement before he can play in the NCAA and now he has finished playing his two years in Letran.


actually, madaya nga yung age ni Ronjay, dinoktor yung tunay na age nya ng 2yrs para humaba playing career nya sa NCAA at hindi pa nga nakakagraduate ng highschool pa yan. Magtanong tanong lang kayo sa kabatch ni Ronjay nung 3rd yr highschool nya sa Letran. Ronjay repeated his 3rd yr highschool but the next year, 1st yr college na siya! Gulat nga yung mga letran highschool mates nya na nagcollege din sa Letran na kaparehas nila si Ronjay na 1st yr college din. Pano nangyari yun?????!!!!!!! Actually matagal ng alam itong info nito sa Letran community pero deadma mga tao sa campus. Hindi ka naman nadraft sa PBA Ronjay nor had the chance, kaya ok lang :) Karma lang yan


you can take the PEP test administered by DepEd. pasa mo lang yun pwede ka mag college. he never entered the draft kasi he opted next year na lang to be in that list. *okay*

frankeesl
Oct 12, 2005, 06:44 PM
ibalik na si ronjay! may chance na mag back to back champion

marylandknight
Oct 13, 2005, 01:36 AM
frankees,

tama ka bro, if ronjay wants to return and if he is willing to work within the system of louie alas, let him play. if he gets out of line, coach louie can always send him back to the bench. siguro naman he has learned his lesson. and he deserves another chance. and lastly kahit wala si ronjay, back to back tayo next year !!! arriba

spongklong
Oct 13, 2005, 08:27 AM
if letran wants to keep their 2003 championship then let go of ronjay. i think we all know here that he also had dubious high school documents!

iTcAnTbEdOnE
Oct 21, 2005, 12:16 AM
why does most letranites give Ronjay no love? come on guys, hate him or love him, he's still one of your own... and of course, he gave the knights a ring on 2003.. dlsu has Joseph yeo and they give him so much affection, why not Ronjay? he's far far better than joseph... well, that's ur school and he's your player so i guess you know better... just an outsider's point of view... peace...

SLiCK08
Oct 21, 2005, 12:26 AM
mga dudes PEP test lang...kahit si Green ng squires baka mag-ganun, sabi sakin ng ex nya...

jamie pagan
Oct 21, 2005, 03:17 AM
why does most letranites give Ronjay no love? come on guys, hate him or love him, he's still one of your own... and of course, he gave the knights a ring on 2003.. dlsu has Joseph yeo and they give him so much affection, why not Ronjay? he's far far better than joseph... well, that's ur school and he's your player so i guess you know better... just an outsider's point of view... peace...

i know i will touch some raw nerves with this post, but.....

once in a while, ronjay talks about this and he just ends up shrugging his shoulders. tama siya. if he starts listening to all these denigrations, he won't have time to play ball. lahat may opinion. you help give letran a ring, they mob you, when you can't deliver, they lynch you.

i have a cousin whose boyfriend plays for one of the ncaa ivy league schools dito sa states and i used to chill with them. students here are more rabid and fanatical than diyan sa pilipinas. but after a brutal beating, it's very heartwarming to see students and their parents buoy the players' spirits up, nakakaiyak minsan to witness it, like the san beda supporters (the true meaning of the word) when they lose, the whole beda crowd rallies around their players regardless of the game' s outcome. lalo na pag talo sila, they're even more supportive. you want to root for these guys because they have guts and their supporters see and feel that. even i feel it every single time.

i have met letranites who genuinely support their team but sadly, they are in the minority. i've been rooting for the knights since the early 90's when i first saw them play while i was on vacation from the states, but i always have a soft spot for bedans. they have class and they have it in spades.


the whole ncaa contingency can learn from them.

spanish^guitar
Oct 21, 2005, 07:21 AM
and then what jamie pagan....?

jamie pagan
Oct 21, 2005, 08:20 AM
and then what jamie pagan....?



thanks. you just proved my point.

i rest my case.

spongklong
Oct 21, 2005, 08:27 AM
why does most letranites give Ronjay no love? come on guys, hate him or love him, he's still one of your own... and of course, he gave the knights a ring on 2003.. dlsu has Joseph yeo and they give him so much affection, why not Ronjay? he's far far better than joseph... well, that's ur school and he's your player so i guess you know better... just an outsider's point of view... peace...

somehow i agree with you.. yun iba nga eh kahit alam mo nang mali ang ginagawa ng players mo, suporta ka pa din kasi nga isang school lang kayo.. but then again you raised a point wherein he's far far better than yeo? i don't think so.. but that's your opinion and i respect that! peace bro! ;)

Beka Lat
Oct 21, 2005, 09:42 PM
why does most letranites give Ronjay no love? come on guys, hate him or love him, he's still one of your own... and of course, he gave the knights a ring on 2003.. dlsu has Joseph yeo and they give him so much affection, why not Ronjay? he's far far better than joseph... well, that's ur school and he's your player so i guess you know better... just an outsider's point of view... peace...


I agree! When you think of Letran knights, you think of Ronjay. True, he may have done some stupid and unsportsly things in the past, but that doesn't mean he's a bad person. He's a good basketball player who happens to have a bad playing attitude. Let's give this guy a chance. Besides he's a cutie :rotflmao:

bluemax
Oct 21, 2005, 11:03 PM
i know i will touch some raw nerves with this post, but.....

once in a while, ronjay talks about this and he just ends up shrugging his shoulders. tama siya. if he starts listening to all these denigrations, he won't have time to play ball. lahat may opinion. you help give letran a ring, they mob you, when you can't deliver, they lynch you.

i have a cousin whose boyfriend plays for one of the ncaa ivy league schools dito sa states and i used to chill with them. students here are more rabid and fanatical than diyan sa pilipinas. but after a brutal beating, it's very heartwarming to see students and their parents buoy the players' spirits up, nakakaiyak minsan to witness it, like the san beda supporters (the true meaning of the word) when they lose, the whole beda crowd rallies around their players regardless of the game' s outcome. lalo na pag talo sila, they're even more supportive. you want to root for these guys because they have guts and their supporters see and feel that. even i feel it every single time.

i have met letranites who genuinely support their team but sadly, they are in the minority. i've been rooting for the knights since the early 90's when i first saw them play while i was on vacation from the states, but i always have a soft spot for bedans. they have class and they have it in spades.


the whole ncaa contingency can learn from them.

IMO, the reason why ronjay does not get much love from the letran crowd is because of the perception that he feels that he's above the team. i think he was roundly criticized because of his crazy antics in ncaa 80 (i.e., the najorda strangling, for one) and for his ill-advised shots that may have cost letran the game against pcu. i'll not even get into the baseless rumors that persistently hound him. anyone, of course, is free to contest this, but i hasten to remind you that these are just my opinions and my observations.

it's not true that enrile was "mobbed" (in the negative sense that i understand the term) in 2003, when he led the knights to their 15th title. in fact, i was part of the silver jubilarian hs class that honored him and the team during our homecoming that year.

i agree that enrile is a very good player who has excellent passing skills in addition to impeccable shooting. but i hope that now he has realized that, no matter how good a player he is, he is part of a team and must conform to its standards. the whole should always be greater than the sum of its parts.

i personally do not remember any other letran player who has had this same love-hate relationship with the fans and the alumni, so i don't think it's an attitude that's endemic to the school and its fans. maybe ronjay should also think about this and realize how it came about. maybe he ought to work on his pr skills. or maybe he ought to show that he really cares about playing for the school -- and that he is not just using it for some future personal goal.

if he is able to do that, i think that even the most cynical letranite will have a change of heart.

renestrauss2004
Oct 22, 2005, 04:38 PM
Lets give this guy Ronjay a chance if ever he intends to play one last time for the Knights. Anyway, he's proven before he can carry the team, so why not.

With the Knights winning this years NCAA without him, hopefully he has learned, much to his dismay, a bitter lesson... that he is not indispensable.

L. Alas is one gem of a coach and he knows what's best for the team. I'm not privy on why he is not in this years roster...might be a coach-player issue, a school admi. decision or his own personal choice, but with him around next year would be most welcome.

As bluemax has mentioned, he must also conform to the teams standard, and not the other way around.

Winning the 2003 crown must have gone to his head kaya di maganda ang naging attitude niya last year... then adding all the negative issues hurled against him from ball-hogging, being mayabang, istar etc...etc...

Like the famous air jordan, if only he learns how to become a team player, that of complimenting his already sharp shooting skills with superb passing which he already possess and not be too self-concious on making the winning shots, then we might be looking at a back-to back campaign next season. *okay*

marylandknight
Oct 23, 2005, 09:59 AM
Ronjay has the ability to make his teamates better, there was a game in 03 against jru when he had 3 straight assists. i hope that kind of ronjay surfaces if he is indeed going to play out his last year of eligibility next season. jamie pagan, how true are your observations. dont get me wrong fellow letranites, i'm definentely dugong arriba. but when it comes to fan loyalty to their players, i think beda is tops. by the way mr. pagan saan ka sa states ?

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