PDA

View Full Version : Tuning cars as a hobby. . .what do you think?


Ronald_Lawrence
Aug 26, 2000, 05:57 PM
I spend most of my time & money in buying aftermarket parts for my car. I find this as my hobby. How about you people? Do you dress up cars as a hobby, or do you just want to be one with the crowd? Speak up. . .

The Mighty Archer
Aug 26, 2000, 09:37 PM
Ako I just want a good pumping car audio system. How about you do you have a stereo system? Anong car mo and what did you put in it?

Ronald_Lawrence
Aug 27, 2000, 05:12 PM
I drive a Civic VTEC. I'm still starting to plan for my audio system upgrade. For starters, I have an Alpine head-unit, a 12-disc CD changer and 2 15-inch subs mounted on the back seat. I need some help with regards to car audio. Maybe you could help me set up a good sound system for my ride, Mighty Archer... =)

Engine wise, I have Splitfire sparkplugs, High tension wires, a Remus exhaust system & headers, K & N air filter. I also changed the ROM chip in my car to boost my car's horsepower by up to + 15hp. Strut bars on the front, and Eibach springs to stiffen the suspension of my ride.

Hey Mighty Archer, what's your ride?

The Mighty Archer
Aug 27, 2000, 08:49 PM
Well I currently use a '91 Corolla XL. The equipment includes the ff.

1) Sportec dual tip exhaust pipe.(yun lang, no engine enhancements etc. due to lack of funds and the car is a 1300 cc engine so no point in upgrading the car)
2) Pioneer KEH P-7450 tape deck
3)Pioneer CDX 620 6 CD changer
4)MB Quart midrange separates powered by a Power Logic Amp.
5)Pyle 12 inch subwoofer
6)Ryan Audio 12 inch subwoofer
(both subs are free-air)
7) Ultra Sound Acoustics Amp (for the subs)
8) Tekline crossover
Anyways anong brand ng subs mo? Are they in a box? How about your amplifier?
Separates?

The Mighty Archer
Aug 28, 2000, 12:03 AM
Ronald
So your subs are on a free-air configuration para tipid sa space. What is your amplifier? As for me I had my stereo installed in this shop called Carland. This shop is right in front of the Pamantasan ng Makati on Malugay St. As for lowering or engine enhancements baka hindi na 'coz baka by next year the Corolla will be sold na and I will use another car.

onehitboy
Aug 28, 2000, 03:43 AM
dressing cars up can not only be seen as recreation, but as a form of expression in itself.

imo, personlizing cars is an art form. expensive, time consuming but ultimately satisfying.

personally though, the farthest i'd go is changing wheels and tires. for the money i'd sink into getting fancy aftermarket parts, i could've saved enough to put cash down on something newer and faster.

but that's just me. if everyone were like me though, we wouln't have rolling works of art.

true!

Ronald_Lawrence
Aug 28, 2000, 11:21 AM
Mighty Archer,

I'm just about to have my sound system upgrade this September. So far, I only carry Rockford Fosgate subwoofers. No, they're not in a box, they're mounted on the back seat's back rest so whenever it's on, rear passengers can "feel the bang"!

Anyway, ikaw lang ang nag-ayos ng sound system mo or nagpatulong ka sa isang shop. Do you know any shops that offer GREAT sound system upgrades? Patulong naman o!

Thanx, Mighty Archer. . .see you 'round.

Ronald_Lawrence
Aug 28, 2000, 11:27 AM
Onehitboy,

So, what's your ride? C'mon, don't be shy. Who knows, maybe we could help one another dressing up our cars. . . ;)

Archer,

Pwede kang magbihis ng 1.3 na XL! For starters, lagyan mo sha ng Air Filter para di malakas ang consumption ng gasolina ng Corolla mo (carburador ba XL?). It works. Kung gusto mo ng pang-arangkada, palitan mo ng Twin Spark na plugs + some high tension wires. It worked for my car. . .

Kung gusto mo ng mababang ride-height para sa XL mo, try using some KYB shocks. Friendly tip: kung magpapa-lower ka, pa-adjust mo yung shocks at huwag mong putulin ang springs. This setting makes the car's ride more supple at hindi matagtag. Hope I did you some help...

[L]es
Aug 28, 2000, 05:20 PM
basta ako.. everyone says my sounds are superb.

maximus_gluteus
Aug 28, 2000, 09:50 PM
mind if i join?

anyway, i have a '95 Lancer. i'm plain interested in a good audio system. i just installed the ff this month:

1. Pioneer KEH-6005W head unit
2. Pioneer CDXP1250 12disc
3. Kicker Impulse i6.2 separates (front)
4. Kicker Impulse i600 coax (rear)

by end of Sep or mid OCt, i'm planning on adding the amps, crossover & subwoofer (probably capacitor na rin). i already have an MTX Blue Thunder power amp for my subs (i've previously sold my past sound set-up, ito na lang natira plus the head unit). now for my greatest dilemma:

1. should i go for one 15" sub or a pair of 12" (bandpass enclosed)? i'm thinking of either buying an MTX Black Gold or a JL Audio brand. i'd be getting basically the same thump from both sources.

2. should i just sell the MTX Power amp and opt for a Class D 5-channel amp? that way, mas simple ang set-up & the lesser distortion/noise.

3. btw, i'm also thinking of adding those 'little things' that do big wonders: like an FMOD crossover that blocks out highs/lows to and from your speaker, buying rolls of dynamat for the door panels (very costly here though), and buying that 'waterproof' material(parang foam)that you place on the inside of the front speaker. i've seen these materials used in the US, pero i'm not sure if all of them are available here.

any suggestions?

The Mighty Archer
Aug 28, 2000, 11:35 PM
Well it mainly depends on your budget. Either MTX or JL will do. I'm just curious available na ba yung mga AlpineCVA 1005 na monitor which has an AM/FM tuner, a CD changer controller and a navigational system. Kasi these monitors are the hottest things sa States especially sa mga sound-off. There was an IASCA show here once I wonder bakit wala nang mga sound-off dito.

The Mighty Archer
Aug 29, 2000, 12:04 AM
Say onehitboy what is your sound system? Other equipment?

Agent Smith
Aug 29, 2000, 12:57 AM
it's a pretty expensive hobby lalo na if i have to juggle it with other expenses. Here's what i've done to mine. Tanabe sport springs (2inch drop), stock look just dropped, no stickers except for the scream logo sa likod. No front plate ( i lost it last year in an accident ). It's got a K&N racing filter, Hurricane 9.5 tension wires, it's been using Mobil 1 since the first 5t KM tune up. Sounds ? Just a Seville RDM168 na head unit. Kappa separates, a Rockford 160.4 amp, and 2 Punch 12" na DVC na 8ohm.
Anyone who's ridden in the car say it's either really loud or "solid ng sounds mo dude, SOLID"


[This message has been edited by Agent Smith (edited 08-30-2000).]

onehitboy
Aug 29, 2000, 03:40 AM
ronald: let's just say i drive a german car. :)

archer: i believe that alpine multimedia consoles like the CVA-1005 should be availabe, but costs very much dinero. i know someone with a complete set (dvd nav, tv tuner, 12 disc changer and IVA-C800 monitor, and replacement speakers) and he bought his set for close to $4k US(holy $h1T!).

too much for my tastes, but its his money, and he ended up with a hella tyte ride.

you can always try to get alpine to sponsor the equimpent in your car, but doesnt everyone? :)

Agent Smith
Aug 30, 2000, 02:58 AM
i would like to see more replies in this topic. Bumping this to the top.

onehitboy
Aug 30, 2000, 03:28 AM
Originally posted by The Mighty Archer:
Say onehitboy what is your sound system? Other equipment?

archer: as i stated in my first post, i'd much rather leave my car in stock form and save the money on mods to put more cash down on another car. with that said, my sound systems remains stock, although i do have premium sound from the factory. if im not mistaken, the head unit is blaupunkt, and the speakers are all harman kardon.

im not exactly an audiophile, so this set up pretty much works for me. the sound is decent, but is NOT up to par with anything aftermarket. most, if not all, aftermarket sound systems (especially ones put together well) sound much better than stock.

aftermarket systems simply put the smackdown on factory units.

The Mighty Archer
Aug 30, 2000, 11:38 PM
Anybody else who has a good system?

Agent Smith
Aug 31, 2000, 12:31 AM
Mighty Archer, don't you think my system looks great aside from the sound you can imagine streaming from my system ?

scarab
Aug 31, 2000, 03:24 AM
can any of you guys qoute me a good sound set-up? clarity lang deyns boom boom.

though priority ko ngayon performance eh.

Aug 31, 2000, 03:28 AM
hey! It's about time all of us car enthusiasts met to discuss car mods! :)


Presently, I have a 92 3rd gen Toyota Camry
V6 DOHC sleeper. ("sleepers" are cars who doesn't show much of external mods but ARE heavily modded inside, ie: engine-swapped) The only visible Mods include Greddy exhaust, 17" AR rims, clear altezza corners and tails, and that's about it. The "inside" is heavily modified - Akimoto Intake, K&N filter, TRD Pulley, TRD camshaft, TRD struts and coilovers (1.5" drop) upgraded computer chip(controller) Matrix strut bars (rear, front) TRD turbocharger (Yup, available from www.trdnw.com) (http://www.trdnw.com)) and a rarely-used 150shot Nitrous. It's dynoe'd at 310hp@redline. (enough to waste those VTEC sticker riceboys) :D hehe just kidding


Sound system only has 2 15" MTX subs and 1000watts MTX amp + xOver.


P.S. may taga-SoCal ba dito?

scarab
Aug 31, 2000, 04:28 AM
hey belat i assume taga SoCal ka. so been to any hot import nights lately?

onehitboy
Aug 31, 2000, 04:50 AM
:Þ - are you covered by toyota trd warranty considering the tons of trd parts on your car?

also, how much to get a car dynoed?

The Mighty Archer
Aug 31, 2000, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by Agent Smith:
Mighty Archer, don't you think my system looks great aside from the sound you can imagine streaming from my system ?

Ok siya. Anyways what type of box did you use for your subs? And anong exhaust pipe mo?

Agent Smith
Aug 31, 2000, 11:25 AM
i do not use any tuned muffler (it's a matic and it wouldn't sound right). why would I want to try and be like those slow slow people with really noisy exhaust pipes. and i'm using a sealed enclosure, my system is for SQ.

[This message has been edited by Agent Smith (edited 08-31-2000).]

Agent Smith
Aug 31, 2000, 11:55 AM
do you still drive around with your loud sounds pumping ?

Aug 31, 2000, 02:12 PM
scarab: yup. Lagi kami sa Pomona dragstrip. Minsan lang sa SD. Saan ka sa SoCal?

onehitboy - TRD parts aint that expensive. The reason I use TRD parts is because they're the only ones that supplies aftermarket upgrades for a Camry/Solara. the rest - like Weapon R, etc mostly provides upgrades for Hondas/Acuras only and that's it. I don't know the exact cost of Dyno'ing since my friend did that for me (he has a shop) but I'll ask him next week how much he charges for customers. Are you from SoCal too?

Anyways, I want to share a really cool site about SpeedTales..it's www.speedmagazine.com (http://www.speedmagazine.com)
check it out! (Has tons of girl ricers' pics as well :))

[This message has been edited by :Þ (edited 08-31-2000).]

scarab
Aug 31, 2000, 11:12 PM
belat: actually its my brother who lives there and i visit him from time to time. bale taga eagle rock siya. he also works in an auto paint/performance shop.

we used to go to silmar for the races kaso lately delikado na eh. but i'm more fascinated with mangas (old skool racers).

my ride right now is a '95 corolla GLi (AE94, i think). i'm saving money for an engine swap.

onehitboy
Sep 1, 2000, 01:17 AM
:Þ - i am not from socal.

sounds like you've got one tyte car.

that 310hp: is that at the wheels, or at the crank? with or without nos?

how fast 1/4 mile?


scarab: nice. what engine you swapping to?

scarab
Sep 1, 2000, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by onehitboy:
:Þ -

scarab: nice. what engine you swapping to?

4AGE 20 valve quad-throttle. kaso ang baba na lang ng trade in value ng 4AFE (stock) ngayon eh, damn!

Sep 1, 2000, 11:21 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by onehitboy:
[B]:Þ - i am not from socal.

sounds like you've got one tyte car.

Not that tyte at all unless you look under the hood. It looks stock outside without much cosmetics, kahit body kit & spoiler wala. By the way, thanks.

that 310hp: is that at the wheels, or at the crank? with or without nos?

That's at the wheels. Of course without NOS.

how fast 1/4 mile?

High 11's @ about 105mph. That's without NOS, I'm kinda reluctant to use nitrous kasi last time I used it, one of the pistons got damaged (i guess the gasket blew) I'm planning to just sell the nitrous system and run "all-motor" that's without NOS. I'm starting to hate it.

onehitboy
Sep 2, 2000, 04:18 AM
:Þ - damn, that's one fast camry. is this a daily driver?

do you just drag, or auto-x too?

scarab - specs for the 4AGE?

The Mighty Archer
Sep 9, 2000, 12:03 AM
Originally posted by yuri:
I'm using explorer sport loaded nung
na-lease ko maybe in near future i have to
up-grade sayang kasi eh..

Anong set-up mo? Sounds?

scarab
Sep 9, 2000, 12:59 AM
Originally posted by onehitboy:
:Þ - damn, that's one fast camry. is this a daily driver?

do you just drag, or auto-x too?

scarab - specs for the 4AGE?

1.6l I-4 twin cam w/ individual throttle bodies rated at 165bhp @6500rpm

yuri
Sep 9, 2000, 02:57 AM
I'm using explorer sport loaded nung
na-lease ko maybe in near future i have to
up-grade sayang kasi eh..

Gandalf
Sep 10, 2000, 07:31 PM
scarab, ever thing of getting the 4AGE-Z?

it's the supercharged 4A.

i belive that it's not too expensive and bolts up nicely into the AE101(?) body.

i don't go for audio setups, just a personal preference. i spend all my money on go-fast parts. i'm still waiting for the greddy turbo kit for the B16. should be out in the US by oct this year!

hey belat, sleepers are the way to go!

gr8 thread! it's about time us tuners communicate!

^^^kaz^^^

Sep 11, 2000, 04:05 AM
I'm planning to get a Ford Pinto, Geo Metro or a Yugo and make it a project car. You can buy one (beat-up second hand) for very cheap under $300 then I'll modify it - slap in a Turbocharger, header, intake, SupraTT engine swap, and I got a sleeper YUGO! But I'll leave the stock rusty paint and sh1tty tires so that it'll look stock.

..then I will cruise down at Pomona dragstrip with the sleeper YUGO and rev on RiceBoys' Civics and 'vettes and some domestic POS.. I will run for pinks - that's YUGO vs. Corvette.. little did the 'vette guy know that this is a heavily modded sleeper YUGO. Flag drops and we're off. My YUGO jumped about 3 car lengths at the vette and finished 1/4 mile in 9.534@135mph w/ NOS. I grab the pink slip and his vette. Watch out for my modded YUGO...

In case you guys want to see some YUGO pics, here's one:

http://media5.motorcities.com/99LLA353326770B.jpg

http://media5.motorcities.com/99LLA353326770C.jpg

scarab
Sep 11, 2000, 11:52 PM
belat,
was the camry u posted on some other thread also ur "sleeper"? doesn't look much of a sleeper considering u got 17" rims, exhaust, lowered ride and some stickers. don't get me wrong dude it's one dope ride u got there. it's just that sleepers here are really stock outside except for the lowered ride but still using stock rims but with wider tires. and as much as possible, downpipes. stock exhaust would hold too much back pressure.

onehitboy
Sep 12, 2000, 05:53 AM
Originally posted by scarab:
belat,
was the camry u posted on some other thread also ur "sleeper...

dude, is this the car from one of belat's posts?

http://camryman.org/galleries/camgen3/cam30080.jpg

certainly looks like the correct gen camry.

i'm with scarab on this one. sleepers are hella cool, but lose the stickers though. it makes the car look too tacky, especially the mountain dew one on the front right quarter panel.

w0rd.

The Mighty Archer
Sep 30, 2000, 09:49 PM
Hey Ronald how's your sound system doing? Lakas ba? Anyways I just transferred my stereo system to a'95 Lancer GLXi. The best part about it is the backseats can be folded down to see the subs, unlike the Corolla na tatanggalin pa yung upuan. The Corolla will be up for sale in a few days. As for mga performance parts baka hindi muna as of this point.

Ronald_Lawrence
Oct 1, 2000, 02:46 AM
Mighty Archer,

Hey man! What's up? Sorry if it took me awhile to get back to you kase I've been real busy in school. Anyways, my sound system hasn't changed yet. Concentrate ako ngayon sa pagbili ng goma para sa Civic ko eh. Kase I drove from Manila to Siniloan, Laguna eh biglang pumutok yung Pirelli Vizzola ko sa front-right! Buti nalang matigas yung sidewall nung mga Pirelli kaya I was able to limp the car back home in Paranaque. What a hassle. . .

Archer, I need your help. Anong goma ang ma-rerecommend mo sakin? Yung mags ko are 17-inch Rota Aztecs, and can accomodate widths of 195-205. Kung 215, eh masyadong nakalabas na yung gulong ko.

My mechanic told me na Pirelli tires have very stiff sidewalls that are not suitable for long-distance driving. I should consider switching to Falken, Dunlop, or Bridgetone. What do you think?

As for the drag racer in SoCal with the kick-*** Camry, my uncle owns a '99 Subaru Impreza WRX dressed with Subaru Technica parts & dyno-tested with 328-bhp. Corvettes aren't much of a threat 'coz they're heavy & they're not aggressive tire-burners like the Viper. Maybe you should square off against Vipers & see who truly is the king of the quarter-mile.

There's a Road & Track issue that ran a test on high-performance cars to see how well they could perform on the 'strip. Guess what? The Viper easily outran a Diablo SV by nearly 2 seconds in the sprint. . .I wonder how fast your Camry performs in the 1/4 mile. . .

scarab
Oct 1, 2000, 09:52 PM
go for dunlop le mans. its relatively cheap, durable, at di maingay.

onehitboy
Oct 3, 2000, 05:52 AM
Originally posted by Ronald_Lawrence

Archer, I need your help. Anong goma ang ma-rerecommend mo sakin? Yung mags ko are 17-inch Rota Aztecs, and can accomodate widths of 195-205. Kung 215, eh masyadong nakalabas na yung gulong ko.

My mechanic told me na Pirelli tires have very stiff sidewalls that are not suitable for long-distance driving. I should consider switching to Falken, Dunlop, or Bridgetone. What do you think?


ronald,

it actually depends on the type of tires (vs. brand of tires) you plan to get.

i have Pirelli P7000 Supersports (ultra high performance, all season). they have great dry and wet traction. there's also very low road noise at higher speeds.

another big plus is the price versus other ultra high performance all season tires.

the sidewalls are not stiff as, say, Bridgestone S-02's (max performance). but pirellis not only handle great under hard cornering, but offer greater tire/tread life and are reasonably quiet at "highway" speeds.

they're also cheaper than bridgestones.

i would go with the pirelli's

Ronald_Lawrence
Oct 3, 2000, 11:31 PM
Onehit,

Gano ba katagal ang treadlife ng S-02's mo? (By the way, original equipment yan sa 911 turbo ah!) Kase yung mga Vizzola ko before, 3 years na nakakabit eh wala pang 1/2 inch ang nababawas sa tread eh! I'm just wondering.

And besides, I'm on a 2-inch drop. Baka affected na yung ride quality ng kotse ko kase naka-Eibach spring ako. Coupled with some low-profile tires, baka lalong maging matagtag ang ride ko. :)

One last question. Lahat ba ng mga Bridgestones eh run-flat? Para hindi hassle kung may madaanan kang pothole o debris na pwedeng makapunit ng sidewall?

Thanks, Onehitboy!

onehitboy
Oct 4, 2000, 02:59 AM
ronald,

not too sure if you understood me correctly, but i don't have S-02's on. i'm running Pirelli's right now.

to answer your question, not all Bridgestones are run flats. only certain brands carry run flats. the ones i know off are the Dunlop SP Sport 9000's and the Uniroyal Tiger Paw's. i'm sure there are some others out there, but you'd probably have to do some a little more research.

they are more expensive than standard tires, but the benefits are obvious - no need for a spare. certainly helpful when you are trying to achieve reduced vehicle weight while maintaining piece of mind.

in my mind though, they're not worth it. maybe in a few years, when technology makes them cheaper.

OTEP R
Jan 13, 2001, 08:40 AM
Before anything else, I would just like to know: ARE THERE ANY RICE BOYS HERE? Fellas brandishing Type R stickers on a Camry or wild body kits on 72 horsepower econocars or basically anyone who tries to look fast with no muscle to back it up. I really hate those kind of motorists. In UST where I study, lowered rice rockets take soooooooo long just to clamber up a stupid speed bump. And most of 'em only slammed their cars to get the right 'look' without even tuning the dampers or getting the camber right.

scarab
Jan 13, 2001, 02:24 PM
no riceboys dude. only sleepers.

OTEP R
Jan 13, 2001, 09:38 PM
Sleepers are much better than ricers. From where I study, there's so much rice running around one begins to wonder if they all took a course in how to rice up cars.

Ronald_Lawrence
Jan 14, 2001, 05:58 PM
OTEP: Classmate ko yung pinsan mo, pare. . .kilala kita:)

Hmmmm, those rice boys think they're sooooo cool with their cars full fo stickers on the fenders. It's so pathetic. I'd rather have a 'sleeper' that can outperform all those 'posers'. . .and maintain a very-low profile while I'm at it. . .mufflers/headers na ang nakakabit eh feeling mo matulin na. They even rev their engines so high to emphasize that these people are driving 'toy cars'. . .pathetic:evil:

Later, people:evil:

OTEP R
Jan 15, 2001, 04:23 AM
RONALD: Kilala na rin kita! Rocker!!! :)

curlytop010100
Oct 13, 2001, 05:22 AM
hi. parekoy im driving a mitshubishi spacewagon 97 model. pina-trade-in ko yung original mags sa stock mag wheel ng VR. after several months na bakbak yung pintura ng mags? anu pwede kong gawin dito? anu ba ginagawa pag pina buff yung gulong? thanks in advance

gorio8
Oct 13, 2001, 11:14 PM
ako e,gawain ko talagang mag-tune ng car.pero i really do clean my car especially for 1 whole day during weekends.but it doesn't mean na i want my car to be well dressed unlike other cars.gusto nila e parang pang-racing type.basta ako e ok lang kung purely OEM o pure stock ang sasakyan ko walang pagbabago simula nung pagkabili.:cool:

flick10
Oct 14, 2001, 07:50 AM
hey guys, i own a car but im a newbie in dressing it up. I felt it was just a waste of cash. but now i kinda like the idea of having my car souped up..tama ba?:D

my car is the same one as master archer's. so any suggestions would be fine. im kinda low on cash now, coz i just recently graduated and nakakhiya humingi na pera sa parents ko now. hehe.

my friend suggested i shud have my bumpers extended, or if i dont want it extended i shud have the springs cut in the front (coz the back is kinda low already). but i read a post from ronald lawrence about not cutting ur springs.

how much would the above things mentioned cost?

im thinkin of lowering my car, then after that, get a good sound system. how much do u guys think i shud save up?


pls help a n00b here:(

HoYaSaXa
Oct 14, 2001, 11:10 AM
Came late to this thread but still want to join :D

I too, am afflicted with this sickness, este addiction, este hobby pala. :D Good to see some fellow modders here...

Flick, I'm against cutting springs. Springs' compression rates are meant to take full advantage of their full travel. If you cut them, you will bottom out your suspension constantly, ruin your ride, and eventually, your suspension. Think of a guy bungee jumping from a bridge - the bungee is designed to stretch but not long enough for the guy to hit the ground. Now cut the pillars of the bridge in half....:D

A good lowering spring has a stiffer compression rate designed to work with the shortened travel of the lower spring. The good ones cost from $200 - 250 here in the US. Good luck!

flick10
Oct 14, 2001, 08:53 PM
hey thanks for the info...so ur saying i shud get a lowering spring? i really dont know **** about cars..lol:D

raysantos
Oct 16, 2001, 11:56 AM
hey people, had to give my insight on this!!!! :)

on pex, i've been called a ricer, but am I?

this is my daily driver car:

-2000 honda civic lx, metallic green
-pi sir tailights, side mirrors, spoon lip
-15 inch spoon rims, yoko advan tires
-tein ha ni suspension
-fiberglass hood, stock color
that's it for exteriors

under the hood:
-b18c5 integra type-r powerplant
-mikuni individual carbs
-crower cams
-spoon tranny

so, is my car rice or nice? it's a sleeper all go, no looks.
people look at my car and think that my car is just a lowered 4 door because i have no stickers and body kits and spoilers.
i fell in love with the sir when i lived in the pi, so i converted my 4 door......

so rice?

btw, we already did a set up on the 4ag individual throttles and turbo charged it, it did 12.3 1/4 mile stock internals and 10 lbs. boost!!!!1!

hat_tr1ck
Oct 19, 2001, 04:28 AM
Wow! Never did notice this thread before...

Anyway, let me share with you my ambition of sorts. I've always been interested in cars and read about aftermarket tuners like Saleen and Callaway that are recognized by Ford and GM respectively. And I've always wanted to know how to blueprint an engine and modify one from the ground up, not just by installing a new chip or polishing and boreing the ports and stuff, but to actually modify an existing one and being able to blueprint it.

And my ambition, given enough financial support? To be an engine tuner a-la Steve Saleen specilaizing in Toyotas and Hondas, and have my cars duly recognized by the manufacturers. :)

kalikarter
Nov 11, 2001, 10:22 PM
i used to work on cars as a hobby in manila,now in california i work on hondas!
(service dept.-honda dealer)

my one true love is old toyotas, i have an '83 4 door corolla as a daily driver(for sale)and an '81 starlet presently being built with a 4a-ge from an'87 gt-s i bought for $200.(wrecked)my neighbor Theo has a '74 mangga with 3TG-TE,my co worker(car salesman)K has an '80's liftback-worked 3T/mikunis,Joey,one of our f&i managers has an '86 gt-s,my buddy James has 3 starlets,a corolla wagon 3T,the local drift/autocross gt-s group's another bunch of good friends-
Battleswing!

sleepers! more sleepers! rice is good to eat but not good for the street!

my friends here in the bay area are all into old toys since everyone and their grandmother drives a honda!

Don't get me wrong,hondas are good cars (i own 2 v-6's)it's just that so many of them get 'riced out', upgrades are good as long as they're kept in good taste,big wings-cut coils-negative camber(excessive)6-inch exhaust tips
are DISTASTEFUL!

just my 2 centavos! -johnny

tadeus
Jun 22, 2002, 09:50 AM
*bump*
:)

urbanchick
Jun 22, 2002, 11:22 AM
i was suppose to enroll in a mechanic-something in FTI before, but hindi natuloy kasi nawalan ako ng time. i love making-kalikot machines kasi. sana matuloy na ako next time.. my aunt also told me that the tuition fee there is cheap lang..:)

atleast it's a good habby instead of joining pot sessions, or bastos sessions, di ba?:)

Lord_Boom
Jun 22, 2002, 01:19 PM
otep r...nandito karin pala...

harhahrahrahr(now you know me....)

meleagant8
Jun 22, 2002, 03:56 PM
uy meron palang ganitong thread!

sana buhay pa *** mga nagpopost dito dati...

si otep i think di na nagpopost dito eh..

sayang....

neways...

guys

meron ba kayong idea how to set up my 1.3 lancer el piza?

kasi ayaw ibenta ng mom ko...since un *** 1st car namin...ako rin ayaw ko since un *** 1st car ko...so papagandahin at maintain ko na lang....

OTEP R
Jun 23, 2002, 04:11 PM
Wow, mahigit isang taon na pala since I last posted on this thread. Hehehe.

Lord_Boom sino ka? (as if hindi ko alam). :lol:

Lord_Boom
Jun 24, 2002, 04:33 AM
harhahrah

onga noh?!?!?!more than a year na...ako rin yata eh...different handle ko dati dito...anyway...

pormado ba kotse mo sir otep!?!?!?:p :rolleyes:

meleagant8
Jun 24, 2002, 05:08 AM
oi pansinin nyo naman ako mga kotse.com peeps....hehe

OTEP R
Jun 24, 2002, 09:33 AM
meleagant8,

Anong set up ba? Sounds? Naku mas mas marami ka pang alam kaysa sakin pagdating diyan.

For me, set up mo na lang suspension. Hindi naman kailangan humalik ng lupa. Just get a great set of tires (ano ba rims mo ngayon?), strut bars, tapos some great shocks. Bahala ka na kung papalitan mo rin ang springs mo. :)

Sarap sa winding roads niyan.

Yung engine medyo mahirap na atang i-build up pa. Maintain mo na lang in tip-top shape.

meleagant8
Jun 24, 2002, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by OTEP R
meleagant8,

Anong set up ba? Sounds? Naku mas mas marami ka pang alam kaysa sakin pagdating diyan.

For me, set up mo na lang suspension. Hindi naman kailangan humalik ng lupa. Just get a great set of tires (ano ba rims mo ngayon?), strut bars, tapos some great shocks. Bahala ka na kung papalitan mo rin ang springs mo. :)

Sarap sa winding roads niyan.

Yung engine medyo mahirap na atang i-build up pa. Maintain mo na lang in tip-top shape.

sa sounds?konti lang po...hehe...

suspensions?stock pa rin po akin, tires?195/55/15 series...rims?kc racing mags....

ano po *** windings roads?Alam ko po kasi you really know a lot sa suspensions...

OTEP R
Jun 24, 2002, 06:12 PM
Winding roads = zig zag roads. :) Ibig ko sabihin, masarap mag-drive ng sasakyang maganda ang suspension set up sa mga winding roads (i.e. Tagaytay, etc.).

Ang alam ko kasi sa suspension is yung biased sa off-road ang set up. Nakow, ang sama ng handling ng mga ganung set-up kapag nasa kalye. hehehe

tadeus
Jun 25, 2002, 03:58 AM
Bakit mabilis masira yung mga after market na Shocks tulad ng KYB?

:(

meleagant8
Jun 25, 2002, 04:41 AM
sir otep

may marerecommend ba kayo na sus. set up para sa car ko?di naman ako sa off road...sa kalye lang mostly..

circle10
Jun 25, 2002, 05:06 AM
Hello everyone!!!

I wanted to ask this to everyone. Your suggestions would be very appreciated.

With regards to car and buying parts, I'm not really into it yet. I'm not the type that modifies my car to improve engine performance. What is important for me is beauty and a good and smooth ride. I drive a Nissan Sentra LEC PS. Could anybody suggest improvements I can do to my car to improve its beauty and the ride itself. If you could also provide a budget, it would be very helpful. thanks.

OTEP R
Jun 26, 2002, 03:08 AM
Tadeus,

I'm not sure about KYB shocks for cars but KYB's for trucks (like my Pajero) are very tough. Right now I'm riding on KYB Super Series nitrogen shocks. For Php 750.00, they're the best shocks you can buy.

Teka, baka fake na KYB ang nakuha mo? Talamak ang fake na KYB ngayon, eh.

meleagant8

Siguro basics lang po. Front and rear strut tower bars to stiffen up the structure. Tapos gas shocks. Yung springs bahala na po kayo if you want to replace. From what I know, you already have a great set of tires so OK na iyon.

If budget allows, go for polyurethane bushings. Less play, tighter handling.

circle10

Simulan mo sa paint. Kahit hindi siguro repaint. Meguiar's three-step or similar paint process para balik kintab with added protection. Getting your bumpers painted body-color would be a good idea too. Huwag na masyadong maporma. Importante is malinis.

Detail the interior din tapos put a great set of tints all around to protect the cabin from the sun and prying eyes.

Alloy wheels would also be a good idea. Kahit hindi exotic ones. Even pre-owned alloy wheels from top-of-the-line Sentras would look nice.

meleagant8
Jun 26, 2002, 03:42 PM
sir otep

di naman po kaya maging matagtag un?
okei na po ba *** tires ko na TOYO 195/55/15 series?

tadeus
Jun 27, 2002, 02:17 AM
Originally posted by OTEP R
Tadeus,

I'm not sure about KYB shocks for cars but KYB's for trucks (like my Pajero) are very tough. Right now I'm riding on KYB Super Series nitrogen shocks. For Php 750.00, they're the best shocks you can buy.

Teka, baka fake na KYB ang nakuha mo? Talamak ang fake na KYB ngayon, eh.



Thanks man!

BTW

Where did you bought those KYB Super Series nitrogen shocks?

Do they have a model for Civic ESi?

Kumakabog na kasi yung nabili kong KYB, one year pa lang.

:)

OTEP R
Jun 27, 2002, 02:57 PM
mel8,

Aling model ba ng Toyo iyan? If you stay with your stock springs, hindi naman siguro magiging matagtag. Firmer lang but not harsher.

tadeus,

Galing po sa Mit-Parts sa may Banawe. Wala po siguro silang piyesa for Hondas there. :)

Try contacting zildjian of Kotse.com. May parts business siya ang he might be able to help you. :)

LeeYahGrl
Jun 27, 2002, 05:28 PM
hi guys! i know this isn't the classified ads section but I think my post would be of interest to some people so here it is!

for sale the flagship engine of Toyota...

3SGTE, 2.0 Twincam Turbo, complete, fully working, estimated power of 210+HP!!! currently installed in a Corona, I can take you for a test ride...this is bolt on for Toyota Corona models 94up, but can also be installed on Corollas, with a little modification...pero talagang ibabatato lang yung kaha sa lakas...this is a bolt on 200+HP engine...please email (a.lopez@pacific.net.ph) or call or text 09178490734 for details...

tadeus
Jun 28, 2002, 05:32 AM
Originally posted by OTEP R
tadeus,

Galing po sa Mit-Parts sa may Banawe. Wala po siguro silang
piyesa for Hondas there. :)

Try contacting zildjian of Kotse.com. May parts business siya ang he might be able to help you. :)

Thanks again!
:)

meleagant8
Jun 28, 2002, 09:57 AM
sir otep

pano ko po malalaman kung anong model?kasi kararating lang nung tires nung binnili namin...

CLY
Jun 28, 2002, 01:44 PM
which is better in terms of quality and sound? a simota air filter or a K&N drop in? are cone types advisable?

meleagant8
Jun 29, 2002, 01:52 AM
cly

i think kung performance...pwede un k&n..un *** iniisip ko eh...cone type for my lancer el..

CLY
Jun 29, 2002, 11:42 AM
parang di kasi matibay cone types eh. pag-long distance drives parang matatanggal. i think k&n drop ins could be better. but im not sure.

OTEP R
Jun 29, 2002, 12:27 PM
mel,

Nakasulat naman sa sidewall iyon. Example: Goma ko ngayon ay Michelin. Ang model niya ay LTX A/T. Just check your sidewall, ok. :)

cly,

A drop in K&N filter does not sound any differently from a stock paper filter because the stock intake silencers and resonators are still there.

Drop-in filters also do not make any additional power (at least on small displacement engines ~ 1.6-2.0). But you do get the benefits of better filtration and reusability.

K&N cone type filters are pretty tough. Pero ang Simota hindi gaano. We have one installed on my brother's Sentra B14. Siguro papalitan din ng K&N kalaunan. But it sounds great!

Nerfy
Jun 29, 2002, 01:03 PM
Hi,

I was thinking of acquiring an old Mazda RX-7 (1988, FC3s), fixing it up, and tuning it for drift purposes. However, i think looking for parts may be too expensive since its too old.

What other old cars that are RWD that are reasonably priced and easy to fix up and tune? Im thinking of a mid-nineties Toyota MR2 (SW20) or Nissan 240SX (S14). Any other ideas?

BTW, Im based in the US...

meleagant8
Jun 29, 2002, 04:23 PM
sir otep

sige po il look at it tom am....post ko na *** dito!

OTEP R
Jun 29, 2002, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by Nerfy
Hi,

I was thinking of acquiring an old Mazda RX-7 (1988, FC3s), fixing it up, and tuning it for drift purposes. However, i think looking for parts may be too expensive since its too old.

What other old cars that are RWD that are reasonably priced and easy to fix up and tune? Im thinking of a mid-nineties Toyota MR2 (SW20) or Nissan 240SX (S14). Any other ideas?

BTW, Im based in the US...

How about an old Corolla? The Levins were notoriously popular as drift cars in Japan.

Yun nga lang hindi ako Toyota guru kaya hindi ko kabisado ang model codes. :)

CLY
Jul 1, 2002, 12:40 AM
otep r,

i have personally taken out the air silencers in my honda some time ago and it sounds great. parang naka-cone type na rin.

i think hondas respond well to better air intake. the car's performance seemed to increase a bit w/o the air silencers. i was just thinking maybe k&n drop-ins would enhance it.

CLY
Jul 1, 2002, 12:48 AM
nerfy,

why not try honda civics? civics are so easy to upgrade. i'm sure there are a lot of parts there in the U.S.

Aside from that i think they would be cheaper than your mazdas and MR2s.

i dnt know what model your civics are but here in the philippines, hondas in mid-90's would be the civic esi or honda civic vtec engine. the esi would pack around 125 hp and the vtec would have around 128 hp. can be easily upgraded to 160hp by changing your computer chip to mugen racing chip, mugen air intake and exhaust systems and racing cam gears.

Hyperion
Jul 1, 2002, 02:49 AM
Ah I still my remember my dressed up souped up Honda Civic hatchback from not so long ago ...

a few things that I will always remember:

1. lowered chassis and skirts/chins make cars look cool but less fun to drive ... you have to plan your route, making sure that there are no humps in the way. Incline parking? fawget it ... and dont even use your car when it rains hehehe.

2. big wheels and low profile tires look cool but with the kinda roads we have ... prepare for a really bumpy ride. You get really intimate with the road hehe

3. very dark tints on the windshield look great, until you drive at night

4. ultra noisy big mufflers (or lackof) were cool to me at that time, but not to my neigbors who can hear my car coming from three blocks away hehehe VROOOM ... Now that I am older, I want silent cars, not noisy ones anymore haha

5. the weber twin carbs that we put into that little sucker needed to be balanced/fine tuned every 2 weeks, that sucked. It also turned the car into a cute little gas guzzler ... ahhh but the sheer acceleration when you put the pedal to the metal ... I kinda miss that excitement ...

meleagant8
Jul 1, 2002, 03:05 AM
haha...iba **** pag tumatanda na no sir hyperion!hehe....hmm...im only 17 pero ayoko rin ng sobrang porma sa kotse...well it helped that as i developed my driving mentality na 1.3 lang car namin at EL lang na mistu so di aako masyadao nasany ssa mabilis etc that higer models feature....hehe

kalikarter
Jul 1, 2002, 04:49 AM
Nerfy ,try 1985-1987 corolla GT-S chassis code AE86,112 net hp,near balanced handling,1600 16 valve 4A-GE!-autocrosser/drifter favorite!

BTW my '81 starlet/4A-GE/efi swap has been running for a while now,just have to get it to pass Ca.State smog referee inspection,then i get a b.a.r. label which makes my swap a LEGAL engine change in Cali.not like too many starlet/4A-G swaps running twin side draft carbs and requiring illegal smog checks every two years!

CLY
Jul 1, 2002, 12:56 PM
sobrang porma sa auto is not good. baka mapahiya ka lang with all that noise in your muffler. thats why i want my car to be a sleeper. stock lahat sa labas, tahimik tumakbo pero kung bumirit iwan ang mga maiingay na auto.

meleagant8
Jul 1, 2002, 02:07 PM
cly

pare ano ba car mo?yep....malupit *** mga sleeper ang dating....pahiya **** *** mga rice boys..

Nerfy
Jul 2, 2002, 09:32 PM
Cly,

Civics are nice to tune for drag (esp in phil), but im looking specifically for a rear-wheel drive car (to fully drift). Besides, if ever I would buy a car for tuning specifically (parts, etc) I think I would get a Subaru Impreza WRX. Something to separate me from the crowd of Civics.

BTW, we (me and my bro) used to have a civic Esi in Philippines (drag tuned, not drift), and it was a work in progress... unfortunately, it got totaled. :(

Kalikarter and Otep,

A vintage corolla would be my first choice as well (AE86... definitely my no. 1 choice!), but unfortunately, I cant find any for sale! :(

Its kinda hard to find a cheap car which will be virtually tossed around... crap. :(

kalikarter
Jul 2, 2002, 11:43 PM
Nerfy, maraming AE86 corollas for sale! kaso,mahal ang asking price,lalo na at
nalalaman ng may-ari na 'collectable' at popular ang lumang auto.
another choice is mangga,'72-'73 corolla,'74's are super-pogi pero hindi exempt sa smog sa California! also -dimes!-datsun 510's iwas ka nga lang sa kalawang

i convinced my wife that i too,want an impreza wrx -sedan or wagon,doesn't matter,basta 5-speed! ang ganda ng crash test rating ng wrx-so that's a plus
on top of the 227 turbocharged-intercooled hp,the full time awd,front and rear disc brakes,4 wheel ind.suspension,momo steering wheel...etc...etc...etc...!
so for $25,000. only,how can you go wrong?street legal rallye car!

CLY
Jul 3, 2002, 12:14 AM
meleagant,

honda civic vtec yung sa akin. gusto ko nga SIR eh. tsaka na siguro pag-may pera. mahal pa rin 2nd hand SIR eh. nasa 480 thousand pa yng mga nagbebenta.

nerfy,

the subaru impreza wrx would be great. the new model is out here in the Philippines. i think it looks better than the EVO. if you have the money then why not get one. if not your choice for AE86 corollas are ok.

meleagant8
Jul 3, 2002, 02:35 PM
cly

aba malupit naman pala car mo...hehe...unlike mine na lancer el lang...hehe

CLY
Jul 4, 2002, 12:13 AM
meleagant,

buti nga ikaw may car ka na sa edad mong yan. e ako, dati nung kasing edad mo ko, jeep lang sinasakyan ko. :D

meleagant8
Jul 4, 2002, 01:26 AM
cly

hmm...actually pwede naman akong di magdala ng car...pero the problem is rainy season....tapos iba naman ginagamit na car ng erpat ko...so sayang pag na stock sa bahay...actually di naman bigay sa kin un....un *** 1st car namin...

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/groups/g_7231030/__tn_KPlus-fire-logo-(BIG).jpg?bcbN6I9AXfWdxMS5

meleagant8
Jul 8, 2002, 08:22 AM
nyak...nawala na naman *** mga nagpopost dito..

VinCristobal
Aug 6, 2002, 01:27 AM
Originally posted by CLY

i dnt know what model your civics are but here in the philippines, hondas in mid-90's would be the civic esi or honda civic vtec engine. the esi would pack around 125 hp and the vtec would have around 128 hp. can be easily upgraded to 160hp by changing your computer chip to mugen racing chip, mugen air intake and exhaust systems and racing cam gears.

160 hp from chip, intake, exhaust and cam gears??? really? I'm here in the US and there's no way we can make our 125 SOHC vtec engines make 160 just from those. Do you know what engine model it is? the 93-95 engine from a civic with the sohc vtec came with 125 hp. the 96-97 obdII came with around 127. these engine models are D16z6 and d16y6. Becuase if 160 hp is possible on my engine, i will definetly do your upgrades especially the chip. Our 160 hp engine here is called B16. Maybe your 128hp engine is a detuned B16 and you can free up those horsepower with those chips, intake, header, exhaust. Then again, maybe your engines there are totally different and emission laws from here in the US. you are also talking about Mugen who does crazy expensive stuff:) i would realy like to get more info about this.

Do you guys have momo or sparco steering wheels there and how much? Also, fuel pressure regulators $$$? I'm a car enthuisiat too here in the US and this is way before that stupid Fast and Furious movie came out which gave us a bad reputation. I installed those nitrous kit, etc because it got so popular from that stupid fast and furious movie. Fun stuff!!