7th FINEX Inter-Collegiate Finance Competition

[cHaSeR]

It's that time of the year again for the FINEX Inter-Collegiate Finance Competition. Any updates from your respective schools? What preparations did your school make for this year's competition? Who are your players and what are their courses? Will University of the Philippines-Diliman successfully defend its title and win the title the fourth time around? Will the emerging dark horses such as M.S. Enverga University and University of San Carlos give De La Salle University, Ateneo, and University of Santo Tomas a run for their money?

By the way, when is the elimination round and where will it be held?

[atenean_blooded]

It's that time of the year again for the FINEX Inter-Collegiate Finance Competition. Any updates from your respective schools? What preparations did your school make for this year's competition? Who are your players and what are their courses? Will University of the Philippines-Diliman successfully defend its title and win the title the fourth time around? Will the emerging dark horses such as M.S. Enverga University and University of San Carlos give De La Salle University, Ateneo, and University of Santo Tomas a run for their money?

By the way, when is the elimination round and where will it be held?

I don't mean to sound bad or anything, but what is M.S. Enverga University?

[agentmori]

I don't mean to sound bad or anything, but what is M.S. Enverga University?


M.S. Enverga University, a school in Lucena City in Quezon Province, was fourth in the FINEX last year. It almost defeated ADMU, shying just a few points away from grabbing the third spot.

[Hulk]

The elimination schedule is on September 15, Thursday (yep same day as DLSU vs. ADMU sa UAAP!).

Venue sites are Manila (Univ. of Makati), Bacolod (Univ. of St. La Salle), Cebu (UP Visayas) and Davao.

Hehe! Remember past trends indicate that DLSU's performance sa ICFC is directly inverse sa performance ng kanilang UAAP Men's Basketball team! :lol:

Interesting to note that DLSU-Manila is not seeded this year because they landed 5th last year. Since all Manila schools not seeded in the top 4 will use a lottery system to determine their groupings, DLSU-Manila could be in the same group as UP-Diliman or Ateneo sa eliminations.


:frank:

[mac_bolan00]

they should ask questions about jose rizal, existentialism, and God, just to even the playing field. ;)

[Fortune]

hey HULK

whats the format from elims to finals

on another matter, you working in treasury of a bank?
what are you trading?

thanks

[Hulk]

Format is almost the same last year. Questions based on CFA Level 1 and all questions are still multiple choice.

Elims will have three levels of questions:
Easy - 20 questions/5 pts. each
Average - 15 questions/10 pts. each
Difficult - 15 questions/20 pts. each

4 venues mentioned above. Sa Manila, schools will be divided into 4 groups. 1 team will qualify for every 5 schools (kapag 11 schools in a group, 3 papasok).

Only difference is the wild card rule. Eto yung new rule:
"In cases where the cumulative score of a team(s) is/are equal to or greater than any FINALS QUALIFIER from any Group (nationwide) during the elimination round, the former team shall be subject to Sudden Death Elimination. The number of "wild card" qualifiers for the FINALS will be announced prior to the start of the Elimination Round."

Sa finals 50 difficult questions. Highest score wins bragging rights and other prizes. :D

Yep I am one of the treasurers in the market.


:frank:

[camerlengo]

on the wildcard rule
if there are 10 wild card entrants say fighting for 5 slots
then they eliminate each other in sudden death?

and this sudden death does not include the lowest scorers previously qualified for the finals?

is it fair though
that the wild card entrants who obviously had higher elimination scores than some automatic qualifiers go head to head
so that what comes out as the final field are the best of the best

allow me to share the format used in the philippine math olympiad
when i was still in high school way back in 1989
there were divisionals then regionals
in the regionals, since there are 13 regions then nationwide
all regional champs qualify
but all schools who competed in the 13 regionals that scored higher than the lowest scoring regional champion also qualify for the national finals as wild cards

in the national finals, there was a pre-final stage or the national semi finals to reduce the final field

i know its too late to change format
you can even ignore this
its just a thought

thanks

[Hulk]

I am not part of the Rules Committee of the ICFC so I cannot recommend changes. However, you guys should understand that the objective of the contest is not really to find out who the best school is. Its objective is to strive to set a high benchmark for financial education among schools. That is why they have adopted the CFA Program, the world-recognized designation for investment professionals as "the standard."

It is the organization's wish that schools should start adopting the CFA program and start revising their curriculums to make our finance graduates at par with the best in the world. Actually more and more schools are revising their curriculum each year.

Now why the rule? I am not really sure, but I think it's to encourage the provincial schools to participate more. By having this rule, you are assuring Finals slots to the Visayas and Mindanao schools. If you talk to these schools in the Visayas and Mindanao, it's already a big honor for them to qualify for the Finals. Ngayon lang kasi dumadami yung participants sa provinces, and you want to give them a good shot at the Finals. Perhaps, in the near future when almost everybody has adopted the CFA standard in their curriculum, then we can have a more competitive format for the ICFC.


:frank:

[hotryder]

Enough with the technicalities...

Anyway, balita ko, malulupit daw ang contestants ng Ateneo. I know someone who knew someone who will represent them. :D Matinik daw. Kaya sa ibang schools, humanda na tayo. Basta, I pledge allegiance to my school. Kitakits na lang. Taga-cheer lang kami e. :D

[Dennis21]

Enough with the technicalities...

Anyway, balita ko, malulupit daw ang contestants ng Ateneo. I know someone who knew someone who will represent them. :D Matinik daw. Kaya sa ibang schools, humanda na tayo. Basta, I pledge allegiance to my school. Kitakits na lang. Taga-cheer lang kami e. :D
palagi naman ganyan ang balita pag ateneo. but they were always the bridesmaid, never the bride. :lol: :rotflmao:



ewan ko...meron pa bang masmalupit pa kesa UP???

[mildseven]

lets not forget success on a competition like this depends on the contestants themselves rather than the school they represent. the winning contestants may not necessarily come from the best business schools.

[Hulk]

lets not forget success on a competition like this depends on the contestants themselves rather than the school they represent. the winning contestants may not necessarily come from the best business schools.

Very true! All it takes is one super-mutant nerd to carry the whole team! :lol:


:frank:

[Fortune]

past winners pls
thanks

[asd]

Very true! All it takes is one super-mutant nerd to carry the whole team! :lol:


:frank:
Are you referring to a certain someone from a certain school who placed last year? :D Well, in fairness to the other members, they were also good.

Dennis21: ang yabang naman. pag ang UP, natalo, :grrr: FLAME ON! :rotflmao:

[silent yet...]

Last year:

1st - University of the Philippines Diliman
2nd - University of Santo Tomas
3rd - Ateneo de Manila University
4th - M. S. Enverga University
5th - De La Salle University

[HARE]

UST Accountancy is at high right now. I heard they have a very competent and inspired faculty that's why their breaking their records...

I think, our team will post a big threat!

[twerpy_craphead]

Hmm..I dunno. We still are not sure which school would pose the biggest threat.

Guys, who are your bets to win the top 5?

[mildseven]

would be more interesting if someone could post the profile of each contestants.

[kapusod]

benefit of the doubt should be given to each school, even the dark horses, and even the not so good schools may turn out to be the best this time

anyway, i hope the complaints last year will no longer arise. i hope finex will no longer formulate questions that are invalid.

[arkero_ako]

Animo La Salle!

I'm sure pag nananalo ang Ateneo they'll say:

KAHIT WALANG ACCOUNTANCY COUrse sa ARNEOW, blah blah...

pag natalo:
WALA KASING ACCOUNTANCY SA ARNEOW eh. :lol:

[Fortune]

yearly winners pls
thanks

[twerpy_craphead]

La Salle topped the competition for 2 consecutive years prior to last year's competition.

[mandennis]

Animo La Salle!

I'm sure pag nananalo ang Ateneo they'll say:

KAHIT WALANG ACCOUNTANCY COUrse sa ARNEOW, blah blah...

pag natalo:
WALA KASING ACCOUNTANCY SA ARNEOW eh. :lol:

mas nakakahiya naman na may accountancy course ang la salle pero talo naman ng M. S. Enverga University gaya ng last year. at least may palusot ang ateneo pag natalo. eh ang la salle ano ano naman ang excuse? siguro ang sagot (ng la salle) din: blah blah blah...

[mandennis]

M.S. Enverga University, a school in Lucena City in Quezon Province, was fourth in the FINEX last year. It almost defeated ADMU, shying just a few points away from grabbing the third spot.

well, "it" defeated dlsu.

[bluethehero]

hay... naman!

malakas ang hangin dito, parang ang hangin galing sa katipunan, philcoa, at taft!

i agree with Hulk, bagamat nakakainis *** rules ng contest at hindi nila magawang nationwide based and not by category ang eliminations, maaaring tama nga, siguro the giant schools lang ang may kakayanan palakasin ang cfa program *** sa mga mag-aaral. dapat **** lahat ng schools may cfa program.

mind you, a lot of schools have good accountancy students even from the provinces.

pero in fairness, natawa ako dun sa nagpost ng "arneow", :rotflmao: parang "arneyow"

[twerpy_craphead]

There's something that we should all remember here.

It's not the school that determines who would win the competition, rather, the contestants themselves are the ones who are responsible for their victory or demise.

I suggest that you guys should just wait for the results of the competition rather than bicker with the "whose-school-is-better" argument.

[alikishi]

M.S. Enverga University, a school in Lucena City in Quezon Province, was fourth in the FINEX last year. It almost defeated ADMU, shying just a few points away from grabbing the third spot.

how sure are you that the fight was between ateneo and M.S. Enverga?

[alikishi]

I am not part of the Rules Committee of the ICFC so I cannot recommend changes. However, you guys should understand that the objective of the contest is not really to find out who the best school is. Its objective is to strive to set a high benchmark for financial education among schools. That is why they have adopted the CFA Program, the world-recognized designation for investment professionals as "the standard."

It is the organization's wish that schools should start adopting the CFA program and start revising their curriculums to make our finance graduates at par with the best in the world. Actually more and more schools are revising their curriculum each year.

Now why the rule? I am not really sure, but I think it's to encourage the provincial schools to participate more. By having this rule, you are assuring Finals slots to the Visayas and Mindanao schools. If you talk to these schools in the Visayas and Mindanao, it's already a big honor for them to qualify for the Finals. Ngayon lang kasi dumadami yung participants sa provinces, and you want to give them a good shot at the Finals. Perhaps, in the near future when almost everybody has adopted the CFA standard in their curriculum, then we can have a more competitive format for the ICFC.


:frank:

I don't think that the ICFC actually helps in improving the finance curriculum of the schools in the Philippines... ang nangyayari lang kasi is that the students who will be fielded into the competition will undergo rigorous training just to compete against the students from other schools. Yung ibang mga students sa school eh ganon pa rin

[bluethehero]

I don't think that the ICFC actually helps in improving the finance curriculum of the schools in the Philippines... ang nangyayari lang kasi is that the students who will be fielded into the competition will undergo rigorous training just to compete against the students from other schools. Yung ibang mga students sa school eh ganon pa rin

mismo! if they have such purpose, e di dapat they should just scrutinize the curriculum of each school o kaya they help by providing or donating cfa materials to each school and provide academic fora.

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ICFC eliminations will start later today, what will be the composition of the finalists? oh well, i hope the deserving schools will win

[cHaSeR]

Guys, any updates on the eliminations today?

Who were the top three scorers per Group? I heard La Salle was grouped with UP-Diliman.

[cHaSeR]

Any updates on the eliminations round held today?

Which schools were the highest scorers per Group? I heard DLSU-Manila was grouped with UP-Diliman.

[alikishi]

UST topped the eliminations with 370 points. Next is DLSU-dasmarinas with 340 (i think). Then UP diliman came in next with 335 points and ADMU came in fourth with 335 (ata) tapos DLSU manila sa fifth with 330...

[NU_som!]

wow, the scores of the 1st and second is quite in a large margin huh! good luck to all the teams. go dlsu...go UP and go ust.sayang walang NU ! hehe

[bluethehero]

Eto naman po ang scores per group [meaning lahat na sila finalists]
correct me if im wrong

Group 1 [3 were chosen coz there were 11 schools in their group]
UP - 335
DLSU - 325
City College - 255

Group 2
UST - 370
DLSU-D - 340

Group 3
ADMU - 330
Central Luzon SU - 310

Group 4
New Era - 230
Pasig - 220

I failed to finish the competition so I was not able to note which schools made it to the sudden death, nonetheless, only 4 schools were allowed to join the finalists from those who were chosen for the sudden death

[gobbledygook]

Did all participants, regardless of which group they belong, had to answer the same set of questions? Or were the questions different for each group?

If each group had different set of questions then I don't think the ranking is justifiable, most especially if it posts an effect on who's going to challenge who.

I'm not famliar with the contest rules. Do all finalists go head to head or do they do it by groups as well. Like each group will have their Top placer who then will battle it out against each other.

[mac_bolan00]

ang galing non group 2, tipong nagkopyahan! joke-joke....

[kapusod]

yes, all the groups answered the same questions

mas malala ang group 4, especially *** Pasig Catholic school, nangongopya ****.

nakakainis pa, may isang school na sinulatan *** likod ng plakard ng ibang letter, kaya pag binigay *** tamang answer, kahit iba **** *** answer na naraise nila, babaligtarin lang. tsk tsk.

*** UP tlgang conscious sa scores, may nagreklamo about score overstatement :laugh:

[mba_guy]

Interesting how UST emerged on top of the preliminary round beating teams from La Salle, Ateneo, and the perennial, UP-Diliman.

Let’s see if UST can sustain their lead all the way through the finals with UP-Diliman and La Salle around.

[arkero_ako]

ANimo La Salle! both dasma and manila campus made it to the finals!!!

iba talaga!

[popwinter]

Interesting how UST emerged on top of the preliminary round beating teams from La Salle, Ateneo, and the perennial, UP-Diliman.

considering la salle and ateneo are both business schools..

[Fortune]

when finals

[asd]

September 27. UMak pa rin. Good luck sa lahat ng participants!

UP Fight! Go Mak, Jill, Ana, Lynne, Jaemi!

[cHaSeR]

How were the questions? Were they really patterned out of the CFA Level I Exam? Was it more of an accounting contest or a finance one?

[arkero_ako]

animo la salle pa din... win or lose we're still the best!
and never kaming magdadahilan tulad ng taga katipunan.. pag olats.. :glee: prrting may dahilan pag natalo. :glee:

[HARE]

Told you! UST Accountancy is at high time...

i dunno how they improved that much, sobra parang nag propel talaga mula nung 2002

[da_macker]

in fairness, ang galing nga ng UST. ang exciting nu'ng group 1 lalo na nu'ng difficult round na... i think there were about five or seven lead changes in the last round alone. god bless to all the finalists! :)

[gobbledygook]

in fairness, ang galing nga ng UST. ang exciting nu'ng group 1 lalo na nu'ng difficult round na... i think there were about five or seven lead changes in the last round alone. god bless to all the finalists! :)

If you'd look at the scores, the two top scorers for each group differ by one difficult question. Did UAnP and USLS join?

[asd]

in fairness, ang galing nga ng UST. ang exciting nu'ng group 1 lalo na nu'ng difficult round na... i think there were about five or seven lead changes in the last round alone. god bless to all the finalists! :)

Mak, galingan mo sa Finals ha! Wag patalo sa Uste, natalo na tayo sa cheering e, wag naman sana sa Finex. *okay* We support you! God bless!

[da_macker]

Mak, galingan mo sa Finals ha! Wag patalo sa Uste, natalo na tayo sa cheering e, wag naman sana sa Finex. *okay* We support you! God bless!

Haha! Nice one... So much for anonymity. Hindi ko pa rin alam kung sino ka... Ehehehehe. :D

[mandennis]

animo la salle pa din... win or lose we're still the best!
and never kaming magdadahilan tulad ng taga katipunan.. pag olats.. :glee: prrting may dahilan pag natalo. :glee:

no need to explain kasi alam naman ng lahat kung bakit pag na-olats kayo. 'yung pinagmamalaki na accountancy course na mula sa overrated na school mo (CHED Level IV kuno) ay 'di pala ubra sa ibang less CHED rated schools gaya ng MS Enverga University.

[Hulk]

I don't think that the ICFC actually helps in improving the finance curriculum of the schools in the Philippines... ang nangyayari lang kasi is that the students who will be fielded into the competition will undergo rigorous training just to compete against the students from other schools. Yung ibang mga students sa school eh ganon pa rin


It will take a long time but some schools have already adopted changes to their curriculum to align it with the CFA program. Eventually mapipilitan rin sila if they want to be competitive. Remember it's a vision and visions have ong gestation periods before they are realized.


:frank:

[Hulk]

How were the questions? Were they really patterned out of the CFA Level I Exam? Was it more of an accounting contest or a finance one?

Except for the easy round, yes lahat ng questions are patterned after the CFA Level 1 Exam. Accounting or finance contest? Well, only about 22% of the eliminations question pool was based on Financial Statements and Analysis (FSA) from about 33% last year. About 30% was based sa Asset Valuation this year. Remember that the weightings of the questions are likewised based sa weightings ng CFA Level 1 Exam.

Hehe! Di na pwedeng gamitin ng Ateneo na reason na wala silang Accounting program, because I've asked my Atenean associates (I have 6 of them - 2 ME, LM, BM, ECO & MECO) and they've confirmed that they've collectively taken up all the FSA topics asked.

For the other qualifiers: MSU-Iligan, Xavier University, University of St. La Salle and UP-Visayas. Di ko na maalala yung iba but there will be 20 schools competing sa finals.


:frank:

[kapusod]

oo nga e, tapos natatawa ako parang supplement lang ang economics and statistics [quantitative analysis],

puro asset valuation [na not necessarily accounting] ang questions, higher finance talaga. indeed, patterned sa CFA level 1.

[Hulk]

Actually 4 of the 15 questions na nabunot para sa difficult round were on Economics!


:frank:

[hersheys85]

Goodluck sa UST sa FINALS! isa yata dun ang classmate ko! she's an economics major! :)

[Lek-Lek]

Except for the easy round, yes lahat ng questions are patterned after the CFA Level 1 Exam. Accounting or finance contest? Well, only about 22% of the eliminations question pool was based on Financial Statements and Analysis (FSA) from about 33% last year. About 30% was based sa Asset Valuation this year. Remember that the weightings of the questions are likewised based sa weightings ng CFA Level 1 Exam.

Hehe! Di na pwedeng gamitin ng Ateneo na reason na wala silang Accounting program, because I've asked my Atenean associates (I have 6 of them - 2 ME, LM, BM, ECO & MECO) and they've confirmed that they've collectively taken up all the FSA topics asked.

:frank:

Actually, FSA in Ateneo ends with the statement of cash flows. I am 100% sure that topics such as earnings per share (which is one chapter in books such as Skousen, Stice & Stice), accounting for leases, taxes, and advanced topics on inventory are no longer covered. Hindi na talaga kakayanin.

As for revision of the curricula to match the CFA Level I requirements, I am not sure if that is doable. There are at least three major constraints to that end. First, each of the six JGSOM programs (MGT-H, MGT-S, LM, ME, CTM and MAC) will stick to a general management orientation. I think all that we can do is rely on students doing their minor in finance and are willing to go the extra mile by self reading on topics that are never discussed inside the classroom, i.e., fixed income and equity securities, portfolio theory, alternative investments, etc. This may even run counter to the special focus on entrepreneurship that the JGSOM is quite emphatic about. Second, the issue of which JGSOM programs will have their finance curricula revised must be addressed. Will it be selective? Or will programs such as Communications Technology Management and Management of Applied Chemistry also be required to take courses on derivatives and international finance? Third, any proposed change in the curriculum will mean going through an arduous process at the AdMU curriculum committee, and things like the required units on Philo and Theo are considered non-negotiables. After all the discussions, we will still be given and will have to work at a maximum of 6 units for accounting and 3 units for finance in the core management curriculum.

So why do we continue to join the ICFC? Because FINEX is still FINEX. At the end of the day, best efforts basis na lang talaga. We're just fortunate that so far, we have managed to consistently place in the top 3 of each ICFC Finals since 2000.

alikishi is quite right - we end up sending students who are just interested in finance and the results of the competition, for a lot of the schools, do not necessarily reflect the relative competence of their respective finance curricula - and I doubt if that will change in the next 10 to 20 years.

Nevertheless, goodluck to all those who made it to the finals! Seems like it's anybody's game at this point. Exciting ang laban.

[Lek-Lek]

It will take a long time but some schools have already adopted changes to their curriculum to align it with the CFA program. Eventually mapipilitan rin sila if they want to be competitive. Remember it's a vision and visions have ong gestation periods before they are realized.


:frank:

Hmmm, how shall we define being "competitive" here? Competitive saan? Sa ICFC? Or competitive with our counterparts in Asia?

Will universities here see the need to use the CFA curriculum because institutions like Beijing University, National University of Singapore, or Hong Kong University of Science and Technology are doing so and we have to catch up with Asian standards? Or is it just FINEX hoping that all schools joining the ICFC adopt the CFA curriculum because they're "napipilitan" to be competitive in the contest each year? I am not sure if the latter one is a good motivation, though. Just some thoughts.

[mba_guy]

Lek-Lek:bop:

please lang, tama na yang bulok na palusot mo. you have been doing that since 2000!

tsk...tsk...tsk...

[Lek-Lek]

mba_guy,

Kaya nga ngayon pa lang sinasabi ko na - kasi kung after the finals pa, sasabihin na namang palusot. Puro na lang palusot ang tingin ninyo. Eh totoo naman eh, Ateneo ends up sending just the best finance students, and even if we do win, I am not about to go around saying that our finance curriculum is excellent relative to the CFA requirements, because it's not. Our consistent placing in the Top 3 each year is more attributable to the tenacity and perseverance of the contestants we send each year in self studying the various textbooks specified in the CFA Level I exam.

I have laid out each of the points fairly and squarely. Now, you may want to consider each of them in the same manner too. Tama na yang mga blanket cum shotgun approach na personalan. These are real concerns I am bringing out.

[mba_guy]

Lek-Lek,


My concern is your behavior. That -- you never run out of reasons attitude -- makes us all sick... Why do you need to keep on extenuating simple events like -- your team lost, or your team sucks -- is not fascinating at all. And even the manner at which you justify things is even exasperating.

If you wish to comment about this competition, say something positive, like how your teams have prepared so much for this big event, or say something about the new methods your teams have adapted to advance themselves and eventually grab the top spot. What you're doing instead is – playing safe – as if you're expecting to lose the millionth-time.


tsk...tsk..tsk... :bop:

[Lek-Lek]

Lek-Lek,


My concern is your behavior. That -- you never run out of reasons attitude -- makes us all sick... Why do you need to keep on extenuating simple events like -- your team lost, or your team sucks -- is not fascinating at all. And even the manner at which you justify things is even exasperating.

If you wish to comment about this competition, say something positive, like how your teams have prepared so much for this big event, or say something about the new methods your teams have adapted to advance themselves and eventually grab the top spot. What you're doing instead is – playing safe – as if you're expecting to lose the millionth-time.


tsk...tsk..tsk... :bop:


But I was addressing the point made by Hulk re: schools na mapipilitan to adopt the CFA curriculum to be competitive. :) Remember? So, I am saying these things to a FINEX insider to let them know that their vision to have each school adopt the CFA curriculum because the ICFC competition is enough motivation to do so, is not quite correct.

It's not as if we're not doing anything. Why do we go through a process of selection each year? And painstakingly prepare mock quiz bowls to prepare for the contest? What I'm saying is, we can only do so much and there might be mismatches between what FINEX wants and what each institution may indeed be doing. You really think each school is following the CFA curriculum? Why, how many CFAs do we really have in this country? And which univerisities/institutions are they affiliated with? And is the CFA curriculum the only and best way to improve finance education in the country? Kung ganoon, bakit may mga schools nung elimination na naghihintay muna sumagot yung ibang schools bago itaas yung answer cards nila? Yan ba ang dapat na mangyari to spell out "competitiveness"?

And yes, I am proud of what the students have achieved all these years. There are only two institutions that managed to consistently place in the Top 3 each year, mind you: UP-D and AdMU. :)

[Hulk]

Clarification lang dude. Kasi I just talked to my associate, a 2005 ME grad. I showed him your post and he did confirm that they took up leases, EPS, etc. sa program niya. Does this mean that you've recently changed your program to exclude these topics this year? :mconfused:


:frank:

[Lek-Lek]

Oo nga pala, Hulk. Will you be sitting as a judge? Maybe you could point that out - schools na naghihintay na magtaas muna ng sagot yung iba bago itaas yung answer cards nila.

I have watched the ICFC for the past five years and while there has been a significant improvement in the quality of questions, the contest has also evolved into something analogous to the grade-school-spelling-quizbee type where you see all sorts of coaches cum stage mothers waiting to discredit other schools. :)

[Hulk]

Oo nga pala, Hulk. Will you be sitting as a judge? Maybe you could point that out - schools na naghihintay na magtaas muna ng sagot yung iba bago itaas yung answer cards nila.

I have watched the ICFC for the past five years and while there has been a significant improvement in the quality of questions, the contest has also evolved into something analogous to the grade-school-spelling-quizbee type where you see all sorts of coaches cum stage mothers waiting to discredit other schools. :)

Yes, I am. Thank you, I actually crafted a lot of the questions sa elims.

Actually, that's true. We have cited a lot of schools for that, at least in the area where I am assigned to, but I guess we will have to be tougher come the Finals. Raise ko later sa meeting.

Are you talking about the overstatement case sa Manila? Hehe! Masakit talaga ulo sa Manila, pero sa provinces hindi naman ganun.

As to international competitions, FINEX has tried but the problem is that FINEX organizations in other Asian countries are not as organized here. They are considering the local CFA Institute affiliates as possible alternative organizations to organize the competition.


:frank:

[Lek-Lek]

Clarification lang dude. Kasi I just talked to my associate, a 2005 ME grad. I showed him your post and he did confirm that they took up leases, EPS, etc. sa program niya. Does this mean that you've recently changed your program to exclude these topics this year? :mconfused:


:frank:

I am quite sure the ME program (your associate took a 3-unit Acc 20 Financial Accounting course) will not have enough time to discuss a full-range of topics from basic debit-credit to accounting for leases in a period of just one semester. They might have discussed basic EPS, but I doubt if they reached the more advanced issues on diluted EPS. If your associate's statement is accurate, then why would you have asked our contestants last year why they tend to "specialize" on certain topics? :D

That being said, I am very much sure that even basic EPS and a discussion of basic topics on leases aren't covered in Acc 30 (taken by MGT, MGT-H, MAC, LM and MECO) or in Acc 15 (taken by ECO and CTM).

[Hulk]

Kasi that's how I saw them do it. One of the team members tend to get dominant in the dicussions, depending sa topic. Unlike most other teams meron talagang go-to-guy person. I like looking at how the team dynamics progress through the competition. It helps me spot the real talent in the group.

Pero kung ganun nga, maybe it's the ME student on your team that becomes the specialist when the FSA questions comes in, since they seem to have the most coverage of the topics in the FSA body of knowledge. Kaya nga yung assertion ko initially, that collectively your team (composed of representatives from different courses) would have covered the topics sa FSA.


:frank:

[Lek-Lek]

Actually, naco-cover na lang during the training itself. So once a team is formed, the topics are assigned and then it's up to them to read and learn the covered topics as per the CFA Level I requirements. Pero iba pa rin kapag na-cover sa loob mismo ng classroom and then review na lang during FINEX season.

[Hulk]

Did you guys discuss EVA? We inserted a question sa elims. Tinanong siya sa wildcard round.


:frank:

[Lek-Lek]

Did you guys discuss EVA? We inserted a question sa elims. Tinanong siya sa wildcard round.


:frank:

Unfortunately, they did not. :D

Pati nga yung enterprise value hindi nakuha ng team namin eh.

[mba_guy]

Then I wonder why ateneans keep on participating in this contest only to bewail at the end that their curriculum is inadequate.

If the team from Ateneo would accidentally win this year’s contest, what would that signify?

[zacharaiolsen]

Goodluck to all the Thomasians participating the 7th FINEX Inter-Collegiate Finance Competition !

Nag-top kayo sa Accountancy boards, sana ipanalo niyo rin to!!!

[Lek-Lek]

Then I wonder why ateneans keep on participating in this contest only to bewail at the end that their curriculum is inadequate.

If the team from Ateneo would accidentally win this year’s contest, what would that signify?

Simple. It's a marketing issue - we have to let industry know, including professional organizations such as FINEX, that the John Gokongwei School of Management exists. Part of the efforts in building the brand name of an undergraduate management school is forging partnerships with external stakeholders.

If we do accidentally win this year's contest, then that means the students we included in this year's team were relatively more hardworking and persevering than their counterparts. Winning this contest is not so much an achievement by the Ateneo as it is by the students themselves! I believe that should be the case for each participating institution, right? Students solely deserve all the recognition for winning these contests - not the schools/universities or even the coaches.

[mac_bolan00]

"if we accidentally win... credit should go to the persevering and hardworking students of the team." :rotflmao:

[SÜX2BU]

Students solely deserve all the recognition for winning these contests - not the schools/universities or even the coaches.

So why represent a school then? Branding?

WE ARE THE ROYAL AND PONTIFICAL UNIVERSITY OF SANTO TOMAS!

:)

[mac_bolan00]

GASP! my long-lost salieri is back! oh, [huh-hug-hug-hug...kiss-kiss-kiss-kiss-kiss].

[asd]

Congrats UP! Ang galing talaga! Kahit 3rd lang sa elims at 2nd lang after first round ng finals, panalo pa rin! Sa contestants, Mak, Ana, Jill, Jaemi, Lynne, saludo ako sa inyo. Sa mga passionate na coaches, sila Sir Peds, Sir Jude, Mam Dani, Mam Trinidad, etc. congrats!

[cHaSeR]

Can someone please post the results (scores and ranks)?

Thanks.

[alikishi]

1st - UP Diliman
2nd - UST
3rd - DLSU - Manila
4th - AdMU

[asd]

UP - 740
UST - 660
DLSU - 620
ADMU - 580
DLSU-Dasma - 460

Congrats to all the winners!
GO UP! *okay*

[KuyaDanny]

Cheering muna tayo:

We're number FOUR! *okay*
We're number FOUR! *okay*
We're number FOUR! *okay*
We're number FOUR! *okay*

Pwede kayang mag-protest? Ano ba magandang reason? Ineligible player? Invalid timeout? Biased judges? :lol:

[alikishi]

kuya danny, im not sure kung seseryosohin ko yung post mo eh

[Fortune]

UP na naman
pang ilan na ba ng UP ito

[twerpy_craphead]

if my memory serves me right, this is the fourth time UP grabbed the title.

Anyway, congrats to both DLSU-Manila and DLSU-Dasma for their improved rankings.

ANIMO LA SALLE!

[archerguy]

Yeah..Animo La Salle!

[twerpy_craphead]

Cheering muna tayo:

We're number FOUR! *okay*
We're number FOUR! *okay*


Pwede kayang mag-protest? Ano ba magandang reason? Ineligible player? Invalid timeout? Biased judges? :lol:



Magandang reason : "Kasi walang accountancy sa AdMU." *okay*

[mac_bolan00]

forget the excuse for not making top-1. ateneo missed the top-3 this year.

[cHaSeR]

Congratulations DLSU-Dasma for placing in the Top 5 this year. As for DLSU-Manila, let's try again next year.

[twerpy_craphead]

forget the excuse for not making top-1. ateneo missed the top-3 this year.


:rotflmao: nice one.. :rotflmao:

[arkero_ako]

UP - 740
UST - 660
DLSU - 620
ADMU - 580
DLSU-Dasma - 460

Congrats to all the winners!
GO UP! *okay*

*okay* to DE ATENEO for placing fourth... kahit walang accountancy sanyo natalo nyo ang LA salle Dasma. :glee:
asan si teacher lek lek? :D

[KuyaDanny]

kuya danny, im not sure kung seseryosohin ko yung post mo eh

Don't mind me. Nauulol na yata ako dahil sa UAAP Forum. Pati nakasulat sa t-shirt pinag-aawayan. :grrr:

[apo]

Congrats sa UP! Woohoo!
Congrats kay Ana S., Gillianne, Jaemi, Lynne, at lalo na kay Mak. Galing niyo talaga! :handsdown:
Congrats din sa coaches. (Malamang magpopost sila dito :) )

Hehehe...ang "fun" nung second round. (Go leases! hehehe)

asd: o nga, sino ka?

Congrats ulit!
*peace* (giveaway na 'to kung sino ko :D )

[twerpy_craphead]

Don't mind me. Nauulol na yata ako dahil sa UAAP Forum. Pati nakasulat sa t-shirt pinag-aawayan. :grrr:


hehe...okay lang yan KuyaDanny...kewl ka lang...lam mo naman mga tao dito...hehe *okay*

[JJM]

Congrats to UP! You guys did it again!!! *okay*

To the representatives - you guys are great! Truly a marvelous record you've set in every competition... and for UP as the only consistent school in the top 3 finishers since the foundation year sends a strong statement that it is the KING in BUSINESS, ACCOUNTING and FINANCE in the country. The second placers -- as usual -- is a highly contested seat among La Salle, UST and Ateneo.



Pero, nakakaawa naman ang Ateneo this year. tsk..tsk..tsk.. ang yayabang kasi. :D

[bleep01]

Congrats UP! nothing beats the BEST!

[Mr_Whel]

Congrats UP.

UP na naman. hehehehe

[JJM]

Congrats UP! Ang galing talaga! Kahit 3rd lang sa elims at 2nd lang after first round ng finals, panalo pa rin! Sa contestants, Mak, Ana, Jill, Jaemi, Lynne, saludo ako sa inyo. Sa mga passionate na coaches, sila Sir Peds, Sir Jude, Mam Dani, Mam Trinidad, etc. congrats!
Please provide info about them like 1. course, 2. year standing, 3. High School attended, 4. honors received, etc........... thanks.

Congrats UP! Always ahead and above the rest.

[Hisbenz]

Congrats UP and UST.. a picture of consistency. haha ! (1st and second)

[apo]

Please provide info about them like 1. course, 2. year standing, 3. High School attended, 4. honors received, etc........... thanks.

Congrats UP! Always ahead and above the rest.


All are 5th year BS BAA majors. *okay*

[ronirows]

congratulations to the UP Finex TEAM for placing no. 1 in the finals!!!

gillianne, ana, lynne, jaemi, ang galeeeeng!!! :)

mak, sobrang cool and friendly (pwede ka na manalo ng mr. congeniality!) ;)

and of course, magaleng lalo!! :P

i'm super proud of you!! haha!! :bashful:


congrats to the coaches, consistent!!! yaaay!! :)

asd: hmmm... I THINK kilala na kta...

[asd]

mak, sobrang cool and friendly (pwede ka na manalo ng mr. congeniality!) ;)

i'm super proud of you!! haha!! :bashful:

Yihee! :love:


asd: hmmm... I THINK kilala na kta...
Sige nga, initials? :naughty:

Once again, congrats UP! Keep up the good work. Hopefully next year uli kahit medyo malabo pa ang pool this year.

[huntfan]

Hehe! Remember past trends indicate that DLSU's performance sa ICFC is directly inverse sa performance ng kanilang UAAP Men's Basketball team! :lol:


So with the results of FINEX yesterday, it follows that La Salle will be the 2005 UAAP Men's Basketball Champion !! Go La Salle !! Animo La Salle !! :rotflmao:

Congrats to my other alma matter.. UP Diliman for winning the FINEX competition twice in a row.. Go for 3-peat next year !! :)

[dnx90]

Congrats uli to Mak, Ana, Jill, Jaemi, Lynne! Galing ninyo talaga! Enjoy your win and the citibank stay!

Congrats also to the coaches Jude, Pedro, Dave, Dani, Cleo, Mikoy and Joel. Go for the 3Peat next year!

[huntfan]

UP na naman
pang ilan na ba ng UP ito

This win is UP's fourth..

Eto yung yearly winners:

1999 : UP Diliman
2000 : Ateneo de Manila
2001 : UP Diliman
2002 : La Salle Manila
2003 : La Salle Manila
2004 : UP Diliman
2005 : UP Diliman

[paralusi]

i heard that up and ateneo had a little bit of fun with the judges yesterday.

[Hulk]

Yep we had an interesting exchange with UP and Ateneo yesterday on leases. That's good actually, especially if students could assert themselves in a diplomatic manner. :D

According to FINEX, yun daw yung most animated discussion in the 7-year history of the competition.

Congratulations to UP! Husay talaga ng BSBAA program (syempre alumnus ko)! *okay*

I'm also glad that the two Mindanao schools that I've judged sa elims (Xavier University and MSU-Iligan) placed 7th and 8th respectively. Swerte ng Xavier, may slots sila sa Citibank Junior Congress.


:frank:

[Hulk]

So with the results of FINEX yesterday, it follows that La Salle will be the 2005 UAAP Men's Basketball Champion !! Go La Salle !! Animo La Salle !! :rotflmao:


Hehe! Pumusta na nga ako sa DLSU, got 2-to-1 odds. Piso ko panalo dalawang piso kapag champion La Salle. :D


:frank:

[pox]

Yep we had an interesting exchange with UP and Ateneo yesterday on leases. That's good actually, especially if students could assert themselves in a diplomatic manner. :D

According to FINEX, yun daw yung most animated discussion in the 7-year history of the competition.

Congratulations to UP! Husay talaga ng BSBAA program (syempre alumnus ko)! *okay*

I'm also glad that the two Mindanao schools that I've judged sa elims (Xavier University and MSU-Iligan) placed 7th and 8th respectively. Swerte ng Xavier, may slots sila sa Citibank Junior Congress.


:frank:

please post naman the complete rankings, i wanna know how UP Cebu fared :confused:

[n3X]

Congrats to UP! You guys did it again!!! *okay*

To the representatives - you guys are great! Truly a marvelous record you've set in every competition... and for UP as the only consistent school in the top 3 finishers since the foundation year sends a strong statement that it is the KING in BUSINESS, ACCOUNTING and FINANCE in the country. The second placers -- as usual -- is a highly contested seat among La Salle, UST and Ateneo.


Pano Marketing? Sino ba nanalo ng PMA Stratmark, PANA, and Agora? Or 4 out of 5 teams sa Toyota Vios IMC. Guys naman. UP na to.

Go BA!!! Congrats sa Terminals! Go Whattabatch!

[mac_bolan00]

Don't mind me. Nauulol na yata ako dahil sa UAAP Forum. Pati nakasulat sa t-shirt pinag-aawayan. :grrr:
creeping mid-life crisis. i think i'm starting to feel it too. before long, you'll be making feminine alternicks and picking fights with girls. :lol:

[JJM]

Pano Marketing? Sino ba nanalo ng PMA Stratmark, PANA, and Agora? Or 4 out of 5 teams sa Toyota Vios IMC. Guys naman. UP na to.

Go BA!!! Congrats sa Terminals! Go Whattabatch!
Number ONE din pala sa Marketing ang UP. hehe.. *okay*
Pero ano yung PMA Stratmark, PANA, and Agora? Parang first time ko pa narinig to.
Please provide detail about the Toyota Vios IMC?

San nga palang high school galing yung UP team. I just want to find out if meron sa kanila grad ng science high school or provincial high school. Kung sino po yung may alam, paki sagot lang po. Thank you. :)

[ROYALblood04]

Yep we had an interesting exchange with UP and Ateneo yesterday on leases. That's good actually, especially if students could assert themselves in a diplomatic manner. :D

According to FINEX, yun daw yung most animated discussion in the 7-year history of the competition.

Congratulations to UP! Husay talaga ng BSBAA program (syempre alumnus ko)! *okay*

I'm also glad that the two Mindanao schools that I've judged sa elims (Xavier University and MSU-Iligan) placed 7th and 8th respectively. Swerte ng Xavier, may slots sila sa Citibank Junior Congress.


:frank:

I was just wondering why the judges stuck with their decision on the 2nd to the last question of the 2nd round considering the fact that one of the judges (who I believe is a BS ME graduate of the Ateneo and I think is one of the few Level 3 CFA's in the Philippines) admitted that there is a numerical proof...

[hotryder]

^ sa tingin ko, masyadong mayabang sumagot yung taga-Ateneo kaya di na cinonsider ng judge yung answer. mukha kasing walang respeto sa judges e. kung si mak (from UP) lang sana nag-explain, pumayag siguro yun. swabe e! :lol:

Congrats!
U-nibersidad ng Pilipinas! Go UP!
http://tinypic.com/e17vop.gif

[ROYALblood04]

I doubt mayabang yung Atenistang sumagot... ganon lang talaga yung taong yun... siguro may tinamaan na pride kaya ayaw tanggapin...

[ROYALblood04]

and all mak can say is: "I agree"

[SUX2BÜ]

There are only two institutions that managed to consistently place in the Top 3 each year, mind you: UP-D and AdMU. :)

I'm afraid you have to update this soon.

WE ARE THE ROYAL AND PONTIFICAL UNIVERSITY OF SANTO TOMAS!

:)

[ronirows]

i doubt mak said "i agree" just 'coz wala na cyang masabi. malamang may basis 'yun.

besides, ganun lang talaga sumagot yung taong 'yun... witty! :)

and if you were the judge, i doubt if you'd still acquiesce to the contestant if it were done to you... saying someone is wrong in a respectful manner has an entirely different effect from saying he is wrong habang sumisigaw at sumasabat sa sinasabi niya... :) and to top it all off, hindi pa sure yung contestant sa basis niya... "i've read it somewhere... basta... parang..." hindi siguro siya mayabang, at nadala lang ng kanyang mga emosyon.. still, wrong move lang talaga 'yun on his part. :)

it doesn't mean though that i agree with the judges' decision. basic accounting for leases would tell you about the income effect of operating and capital leases. besides, 'yung reason na you should consider short-term effects only is not entirely valid. and may i ask, anong management book nga po pala ang may turo nun?

in any case, astig talaga ni mak for going through all that without losing his cool, so respectful pa the whole time!! :)

[ROYALblood04]

siyempre they were in the middle of a game and I don't think you can expect the contestants to memorize everything. When the contestant from AdMU calmed a bit, he got the book and presented it to the judges...

[Hulk]

Here are the final rankings:

1. University of the Philippines - Diliman 740
2. University of Santo Tomas 660
3. De La Salle University - Manila 620
4. Ateneo de Manila University 580
5. De La Salle Univesity - Dasmarinas 460
6. Pasig Catholic College 440
7. Xavier University 400
8. Mindanao State University - Iligan 380
9. University of the Philippines - Cebu 360
10. Central Philippine University 360
11. City College of Manila 340
12. Ceby Institute of Technology 340
13. Central Luzon State University 320
14. University of St. La Salle - Bacolod 320
15. College of the Holy Spirit 320
16. Ateneo de Naga University 300
17. New Era University 280
18. Foundation University 260
19. University of San Jose - Recolletos 260
20. Tarlac State University 220


:frank:

[da_macker]

and all mak can say is: "I agree"

I went up front at the request of Mark, my good friend from Ateneo ('mon, hindi naman s'ya mayabang... emosyonal lang. :) ) To be perfectly honest, I came there not with the intention of further defending our argument on leases, since Mark had already given an excellent explanation. Further belaboring his point would have been redundant and non-value-adding. And in that light, yes, all I could say was, "I agree with what he said."

The real reason why I came up front was to calm down Mark, because he was starting to get emotional and a tad disrespectful. However strong his argument may be, I knew he could not win by lashing out like he did, so I tried to lighten up the mood para hindi masyadong offensive sa judges 'tsaka para hindi ma-badshot ang Ateneo. Kung gumana man 'yun, hindi ko alam.

Wala lang. I still have a soft spot for Ateneo... Life-changing ang high school days ko du'n eh.

[mba_guy]

I went up front at the request of Mark, my good friend from Ateneo ('mon, hindi naman s'ya mayabang... emosyonal lang. :) ) To be perfectly honest, I came there not with the intention of further defending our argument on leases, since Mark had already given an excellent explanation. Further belaboring his point would have been redundant and non-value-adding. And in that light, yes, all I could say was, "I agree with what he said."

The real reason why I came up front was to calm down Mark, because he was starting to get emotional and a tad disrespectful. However strong his argument may be, I knew he could not win by lashing out like he did, so I tried to lighten up the mood para hindi masyadong offensive sa judges 'tsaka para hindi ma-badshot ang Ateneo. Kung gumana man 'yun, hindi ko alam.

Wala lang. I still have a soft spot for Ateneo... Life-changing ang high school days ko du'n eh.
Ba't ka nag UP? Siguro hindi ka pumasa sa the Ateneo kaya nag UP ka nalang... :D

[SUX2BÜ]

Arghh, did I miss ateneo's excuse this time?

WE ARE THE ROYAL AND PONTIFICAL UNIVERSITY OF SANTO TOMAS!

:)

[ach_soo]

Yeah, you did, El Denso!

[da_macker]

Ba't ka nag UP? Siguro hindi ka pumasa sa the Ateneo kaya nag UP ka nalang... :D

Pumasa 'ko sa Ateneo. Pero mas mura sa UP eh. Hehe. :D

[Prof. Umbridge]

hey mak! Congrats!!!

To asd: Hulaan mo kung sino ako? hehe...

Go UP!

[Fortune]

ikaw mba_guy

pumasa ka ba sa UP?

[mac_bolan00]

the academe forum turns dry everytime UP takes most of the year's pissing contests: bar exams, finex, marketing, etc.

[da_macker]

tenk yu prof. umbridge... sana kilala kita...

... at si asd, hindi ko pa rin kilala...

sino ba kase kayo...? hehe. :confused:

[mba_guy]

ikaw mba_guy

pumasa ka ba sa UP?
sa hirap ba naman pumasa sa UPCAT...
about 15 to 20 lang yata ang pumapasa sa UP galing ateneo high school.........
but i passed ateneo's entrance exams, but i opted to study at FEU kasi di hamak mas maganda ang FEU compared to Ateneo at mas cheaper pa.

ikaw pumasa ka?


congrats nga pala sa UP!
The best talaga ang UP. Kung si Mak nanatili sa -- the Ateneo, sigurado mapabilang na siya sa talonan na team.
so, Mak, have you realized now what an affordable school like -- UP -- can do for you that other second-tier school like --the ateneo - cannot?

[2002-17545]

Go Mak!!!

VP ko yan sa UP JPIA!!!!!!!
Idol... Elibs!!!!

Ngyahahaha!!!

Matalino na, pogi pa, mabait pa...

un nga lang.. mataba... :) =p

yay, 2nd post ko toh!
hehehe

Congrats UP!
Congrats sa mga coaches!!! dabest!!!

[Fortune2]

yup mba_guy

took it in 88
pasado ako sa up, admu (fms) and dlsu
pero sa up ako pumasok
bs math
kasi libre dahil sa dost scholarship ko

hinayang ko lang
sana nag business course na lang ako
pero ok na rin

[sue_mo!]

yup mba_guy

took it in 88
pasado ako sa up, admu (fms) and dlsu
pero sa up ako pumasok
bs math
kasi libre dahil sa dost scholarship ko



if you are as smart as you advertise yourself to be, why did you not even consider ust?

:lol:

[Hisbenz]

^^welcome back rat boy

[sue_mo!]

who the hell are you?

[Fortune2]

ust, last resort...

[sue_mo!]

^^ i agree.

suicide muna.

[br0m0thymoLbLuE]

^^^it is interesting to know how the high school honor students in our class <pharmacy> chose UST... the school that the others regard as "their last resort" :glee:

Congratulations UP!
Congratulations UST! :D

[sue_mo!]

i don't believe top graduates of the country's elite highschools are looking at pharmacy at all.

with all due respect to pharmacists.

[mac_bolan00]

i suppose science high schools aren't elite. ;)

[Skye8]

Oy Mak! Congrats!! (kelan libre mo?)

ito nga pala si "pinsan" :bashful:

si Prof Umbridge, JPIA EO yan from my batch (kung nagbabasa ka ng Harry Potter, madali nang maisip kung sino siya)

<Peace tayo Prof *okay* >

[mba_guy]

Oy Mak! Congrats!! (kelan libre mo?)

ito nga pala si "pinsan" :bashful:

si Prof Umbridge, JPIA EO yan from my batch (kung nagbabasa ka ng Harry Potter, madali nang maisip kung sino siya)

<Peace tayo Prof *okay* >
kindly update the UP JPIA website. sagwa ni mak dun. pig na pig. :lol:

[ronirows]

ang sama naman ni mba guy. bitter yata nde pumasa ng up. haha!! :P

[br0m0thymoLbLuE]

i don't believe top graduates of the country's elite highschools are looking at pharmacy at all.

with all due respect to pharmacists.

oh well, it's only you, why should anyone care? Kasi nga naman, pharmacy, baka di kayanin ng mga bobong elitista na nasa honor roll :glee:

[sue_mo!]

name me one vale or a salu from pshs, ahs, is, dlsz, lsgh, mshs, upis, xavier, ica, brent, poveda, ac, or mc taking up pharmacy at ust, and i will let you in on ten arnold clavio redeeming virtues.

[Hisbenz]

ang galing mo rat boy! official basher sa pex! ahihihi

[iceflavah]

name me one vale or a salu from pshs, ahs, is, dlsz, lsgh, mshs, upis, xavier, ica, brent, poveda, ac, or mc taking up pharmacy at ust, and i will let you in on ten arnold clavio redeeming virtues.


angyabang.. haha.. peace! anyway, i was from mc and im takin up medtech sa uste. d ako nag-iisa. mga kada ko galing din exclusive. baba ka nmn ng konte, please? bka mahulog ka. taas kasi d ko ma-reach.. hehe.. peace ult! oops d *** ko vale or salu. sori a.:D mdming matalino late lang sinipag mag-aral. pero d ako un a. mdmi lang ako kilala. meron din mga DL and vale pero pag practical na e d nmn gnun kgaling. d nmmeasure ng grades or school kung mag-ssucceed ka later on in life. kelngan lang mging humble ka. matalino=right na magyabang(gnun b un)? sa mga insecure siguro. :) if you're really good, let other people tell that. kung proud ka **** de sige broadcast mo pero wag mo judge *** mga taong d mo nmn personally kilala. haha.. antok na siguro ko. sensha na ha. d ko lang mpigil mgsalita. ;) ;)

[iceflavah]

ay d *** dpat kta pinatulan... professional basher kb? hehe. sayang na-type ko.

[chineseMALAY]

now, it's safe to agree that UP is the best of the best.

[sue_mo!]

ay d *** dpat kta pinatulan... professional basher kb? hehe. sayang na-type ko.

i'm no basher and i respect your opinion.

[da_macker]

mba_guy, kung inupdate yang website, mas mataba pa labas ko d'yan. wala pa rin.

[mba_guy]

^ walang problema basta palagi bang champion. *okay*

[Bluer_Knight]

Pumasa 'ko sa Ateneo. Pero mas mura sa UP eh. Hehe. :D

i always hear that. "mura sa UP, kaya ako nag UP"
magkano ba ang tuition sa public school na yan? :)

[Bluer_Knight]

ang sama naman ni mba guy. bitter yata nde pumasa ng up. haha!! :P

i think mba_guy is a bisaya.

BREEEEEEZEEE yourself. :lol:

[br0m0thymoLbLuE]

name me one vale or a salu from pshs, ahs, is, dlsz, lsgh, mshs, upis, xavier, ica, brent, poveda, ac, or mc taking up pharmacy at ust, and i will let you in on ten arnold clavio redeeming virtues.

uhmmm pshs, upis, elite? hindi ko makuha :glee: if that's what you want.

I can name studes from LSGH, Xavier, POVEDA, and MC :D

And add to your list, a number of dumb students from AHS as a bonus. It's a whole package ratboy :rotflmao:

[Fortune2]

6-8k tuition sa up each sem

[Green_bean]

so when is the 8th FINEX contest?

[bluethehero]

so when is the 8th FINEX contest?

it will be announced in the regular orientation of FINEX/JFINEX, normally between June-July.

and normally, the actual finance competition is held September-October.

[Fortune2]

UP is team to beat
DLSU should make sure they field eligible entries

[LeoNell_Mercado]

UP is team to beat
DLSU should make sure they field eligible entries
UP has always been THE team to beat not just in finance and accountancy but practically in ALL academic fields. *okay*

[patrickrosende]

ano ba ibig sabihin ng finex? para saan ba yan? nagtatanong lang po

[LeoNell_Mercado]

ano ba ibig sabihin ng finex? para saan ba yan? nagtatanong lang po
hindi ko rin alam pero ang alam ko the best ang UP dito.

[mandennis]

hindi ko rin alam pero ang alam ko the best ang UP dito.

ALIN? SA WALANG ALAM?

[mac_bolan00]

^
mis-identified subject. :rotflmao:

[jason_708]

ALIN? SA WALANG ALAM?

Mr., FINEX stands for Financial Executives (of the Philippines), the organizer of ICFC.:)

[academeniac]

is this televised?

[jason_708]

is this televised?

No, it's not. But you can watch it through the internet kasi may live webcast ito.

(The complete name pala of FINEX is Financial Executives Institute of the Philippines.)

[confusedmapuan]

^saan........?search engine nalang?hehe

[theyogurtboy]

hi. i'm interested in joining finex in the future. im a freshie in dlsu who's taking up applied economics and financial management. can i join finex with my course?

[bluethehero]

clarification: FINEX is a name of an association of Financial Executives.

if you guys are pertaining to the contest of FINEX, call it ICFC :D

theyogurtboy if you are pertaining to the Finance competition, yes, FINEX does not give restrictions on the degree of the participants in the ICFC, and it is the school that endorses the contestants. find out who from dlsu is the coach of your ICFC team, then try to undergo trainings or whatever.

[2002-17545]

UP won sa 3rd Stratmark this year! Kalaban nila ay Ateneo, LA Salle, UST at Southville!
Woohoooo!
Go UP!
Go Finex Team ng UP! :)
Asteeeeeeg!

[tantararantaran]

god bless sa finex team ng UP!!! Sayang baka di kami makapunta, pero in any case, kaya nila yan!!! kaya yung batchrep namin sa 5th BAA, kausapin niyo na ang mga profs para full support tayo!!! hehehe.

Go UP