My First Choice was UST.

[samantha_jones]

I was reading a couple of old posts/threads here in PEX and nabasa ko sa isang closed thread na 4th choice ang UST amongst the schools. Well as for me...UST was tops. I didnt even care about the UPCAT, nauna ko lang siya i-take and I almost didnt bother reading the questions because I didn't intend to study at UP even if my mom wanted me to. I'm a thomasian through and through. And I didn't even bother submitting applications to Ateneo or La Salle. It was UST or nothing.

End of Sharing. *okay*

Schools have their own fortes and this is why students choose these schools as a stepping stone into building their careers...

[paralusi]

congratulations. good for you.

[mac_bolan00]

my first choice was FEU.

[sweet_ryan]

nowhere to go but UP!

[swimbod21]

it was not even in my choice.

[br0m0thymoLbLuE]

UST was my second choice next to UP.

[DanDaLion]

My first choice - UP. One semester only because my parents moved to LA. Got my second choice at CALTECH (non stop yata ang studying and research even for undergrad). Missed my friends at UP.

[ach_soo]

Care to tell us what the barricade competition at Caltech is all about?

[sandiegan]

No offense to UST, but it was not even on my choice of schools.

[DanDaLion]

Care to tell us what the barricade competition at Caltech is all about?
PASADENA, Calif.-Ditch Day, the annual end-of-school day of highly telegenic and photogenic pranks and games at the California Institute of Technology .
On one day each spring, kept secret until the last minute, Caltech seniors ditch their classes and vanish from campus. Any senior discovered on campus after 8 a.m. is subject to the lamentable fate of being captured by vigilant underclass students and summarily duct-taped to the nearest tree.
Because the rooms of absent seniors are today vulnerable to all sorts of mischievous goings-on, the seniors have spent considerable time prior to Ditch Day devising ingenious and elaborate locks and obstacles for their rooms. Underclass students will spend the day trying to get through these "stacks"-named for the stacks of books and furniture that were used in decades past to barricade the doors-and into the seniors' rooms.
Modern-day stacks can be far more elaborate than just a physical barricade, and often take the underclass students far away from the room itself on scavenger hunts, quests, adventures, red-herring searches, and the like.
Many of the Ditch Day activities have photographic potential for print and broadcast journalists, and for this reason Caltech invites the media each year to come to campus and cover the happenings. In recent years, in fact, a crew from The Tonight Show has shown up a couple of times for Ditch Day.
Media wishing to report on Ditch Day are usually at an advantage by arriving as early as possible, though events will continue throughout the day. The Caltech Media Relations staff at 315 S. Hill Ave. will be available to conduct film crews to student activities that have good potential for news coverage.

[DanDaLion]

^

Since 1921, Ditch Day has been a fixture of spring term at Caltech. From its relatively simple beginnings as a day off for seniors, it has grown into an occasion for students to indulge in the most elaborate, inventive pranking imaginable.
Central to Ditch Day are "stacks." Originally piles of blocks or lumber used to barricade "vacationing" seniors' rooms against the incursions of underclassmen, stacks have evolved into complex puzzles that seniors devise for the underclassmen's entertainment. Stacks typically have themes inspired by favorite books, computer games, TV shows, or movies. On Ditch Day (the date each year is a dark secret until the morning of the day), underclassmen survey the various stacks and form themselves into teams; each team then picks a stack to solve. If they can successfully follow a trail of fiendishly difficult clues and perform the requisite feats of skill and daring, the way into a senior's room will be revealed, and a reward (usually food) will be theirs. As all this unfolds, the stack designers are conspicuously absent--in fact, any senior found on campus after 8 a.m. may be duct-taped to a tree for the day!

[Bazooka_Joe]

^

Since 1921, Ditch Day has been a fixture of spring term at Caltech. From its relatively simple beginnings as a day off for seniors, it has grown into an occasion for students to indulge in the most elaborate, inventive pranking imaginable.
Central to Ditch Day are "stacks." Originally piles of blocks or lumber used to barricade "vacationing" seniors' rooms against the incursions of underclassmen, stacks have evolved into complex puzzles that seniors devise for the underclassmen's entertainment. Stacks typically have themes inspired by favorite books, computer games, TV shows, or movies. On Ditch Day (the date each year is a dark secret until the morning of the day), underclassmen survey the various stacks and form themselves into teams; each team then picks a stack to solve. If they can successfully follow a trail of fiendishly difficult clues and perform the requisite feats of skill and daring, the way into a senior's room will be revealed, and a reward (usually food) will be theirs. As all this unfolds, the stack designers are conspicuously absent--in fact, any senior found on campus after 8 a.m. may be duct-taped to a tree for the day!

.. from CALTECH's website (http://today.caltech.edu/today/story-display.tcl?story%5fid=303)

:blowsmoke:

[samantha_jones]

You know I think my uncle went to Caltech. Do they have post graduate studies programs for Architecture? And is it any good?

[dagaaaaa]

i'm sure those who chose ust first deserve what they're getting now :lol:

[samantha_jones]

Of course daga and I for one cant be happier! :D

[medokhil4]

^ask ko lang samantha, pumasa ka ba sa UPCAT coz if yes, I'm sure dun ka mag-aaral, heloooo, UP po kaya 'yon, ano naman laban ng UST ?

[shiftbackspace]

^ask ko lang samantha, pumasa ka ba sa UPCAT coz if yes, I'm sure dun ka mag-aaral, heloooo, UP po kaya 'yon, ano naman laban ng UST ?i hope this won't become a generalization.

[Hisbenz]

^ask ko lang samantha, pumasa ka ba sa UPCAT coz if yes, I'm sure dun ka mag-aaral, heloooo, UP po kaya 'yon, ano naman laban ng UST ?


it does not mean na kung sa Ust siya nag-aral bagsak siya sa upcat. helooo ka rin. e what if ayaw naman niya ang environment sa UP o kung nao mang reason.

[Shemale_Lover]

UST? hmmmmmm......

its..................

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Great school =)

[sixmiles]

^^ take that from a she-male lover ;)

[samantha_jones]

medo: Maybe you should read my post once again. I NEVER intended to study at UP. Gusto ko talaga sa UST e. Hellooo!!! Ano naman kung UP yun? Maybe if I was gunning for a different course like...math or something. And just for your info...I passed. Pero ngayong Masters, I'm considering UP because they're the only school with an Urban Planning program.

[medokhil4]

medo: Maybe you should read my post once again. I NEVER intended to study at UP. Gusto ko talaga sa UST e. Hellooo!!! Ano naman kung UP yun? Maybe if I was gunning for a different course like...math or something. And just for your info...I passed. Pero ngayong Masters, I'm considering UP because they're the only school with an Urban Planning program.



Heloooo again UP po kaya yon, lahat ng matatalinong H.S. students dun gustong mag-aral, it's the best university po kaya sa Pinas, ok ka lang

d mas lalo ka dapat sa UP kung math ang gusto mo, ano ba 'yan, parang ilusyon mo lang yata na nakapasa ka sa UP, alam mo ang UST eh isa sa bagsakan ng UP, Ateneo at La Salle kaya pwede magkape ka muna

[medokhil4]

it does not mean na kung sa Ust siya nag-aral bagsak siya sa upcat. helooo ka rin. e what if ayaw naman niya ang environment sa UP o kung nao mang reason.


opo, kung sa UST choice mo, siguradong bagsak ka sa UPCAT, wag na po tayong maglokohan

UST is a good school pero ka-liga po niya ang San Beda, FEU, Mapua, UE, San Sebastian, MIriam, St. Scho at Assumption *okay*

[ako si..]

UST.. my dream school and my alma mater.. this is the only school for me.

medokhil4: watch your manners.. san school ka ba galing?

[clawed_out]

opo, kung sa UST choice mo, siguradong bagsak ka sa UPCAT, wag na po tayong maglokohan

UST is a good school pero ka-liga po niya ang San Beda, FEU, Mapua, UE, San Sebastian, MIriam, St. Scho at Assumption *okay*

I feel sorry that you have a very narrow view about everything.

[br0m0thymoLbLuE]

^ask ko lang samantha, pumasa ka ba sa UPCAT coz if yes, I'm sure dun ka mag-aaral, heloooo, UP po kaya 'yon, ano naman laban ng UST ?
Hahaha :rotflmao: as if naman lahat ng nasa UP pasado ng pinakamamahal nilang UPCAT :bop:

[br0m0thymoLbLuE]

Heloooo again UP po kaya yon, lahat ng matatalinong H.S. students dun gustong mag-aral, it's the best university po kaya sa Pinas, ok ka lang

d mas lalo ka dapat sa UP kung math ang gusto mo, ano ba 'yan, parang ilusyon mo lang yata na nakapasa ka sa UP, alam mo ang UST eh isa sa bagsakan ng UP, Ateneo at La Salle kaya pwede magkape ka muna
:rotflmao: another stupid post... How are you sure na lahat ng mga bagsak ng sinasabi mong schools ay sa UST nag-aral? :lol: Stats pls :rotflmao: Come on... :bop:

[br0m0thymoLbLuE]

opo, kung sa UST choice mo, siguradong bagsak ka sa UPCAT, wag na po tayong maglokohan
sows... :rolleyes: May bumabagsak pala sa UPCAT? Ang alam ko kasi walang "failed" na nakasulat sa pichuchuging mail letter kapag hindi ka nakaabot sa cut off... Hmmm... matanong nga sa UP Admin yan :rotflmao:

[dagaaaaa]

opo, kung sa UST choice mo, siguradong bagsak ka sa UPCAT, wag na po tayong maglokohan

UST is a good school pero ka-liga po niya ang San Beda, FEU, Mapua, UE, San Sebastian, MIriam, St. Scho at Assumption *okay*

salbahe talaga to.

wag mo naman siraan ang San Beda, FEU, Mapua, UE, San Sebastian, MIriam, St. Scho at Assumption.

please.

[caryatid_kitten]

opo, kung sa UST choice mo, siguradong bagsak ka sa UPCAT, wag na po tayong maglokohan

UST is a good school pero ka-liga po niya ang San Beda, FEU, Mapua, UE, San Sebastian, MIriam, St. Scho at Assumption *okay*

yes, indeed, another WANNABE with a narrow mind. :D

[br0m0thymoLbLuE]

^^^Oh well... newbies syndrome:lol:

[samantha_jones]

Heloooo again UP po kaya yon, lahat ng matatalinong H.S. students dun gustong mag-aral, it's the best university po kaya sa Pinas, ok ka lang

d mas lalo ka dapat sa UP kung math ang gusto mo, ano ba 'yan, parang ilusyon mo lang yata na nakapasa ka sa UP, alam mo ang UST eh isa sa bagsakan ng UP, Ateneo at La Salle kaya pwede magkape ka muna

Hello din!!! Wala akong pakialam sa UPCAT kasi ayoko sa UP! AND HINDI MATH ANG COURSE KO. Hello ulit, people make choices and I made mine. First yr highschool palang ako I already decided that I want to study in UST. Studying in UP doesn't mean you're all that and clearly studying in UP doesn't earn you any breeding.

[Altwegg]

Eh ano ba kasing pakialam nyo kung first choice nya ang UST?

[peksser]

i don't know if this is the right thread to go to. Anyway, i took up eng'g in UST way back in the 80's. The thing is, most of our profs (i was majoring in CE) are those who took their profession (as our teachers) as mere sideline. you see, late sila always for class then they will hurrily take off for their "real jobs" (karamihan sa kanila were working for DPWH)!! Wala kang matutunan. PUro kopya sa blackboard and/or konting explanations. Dapat alisin na ng UST ang ganitong sistema sa eng'g nila most especially sa Civil Eng'g Dept. Wow!! Madalas nga newly graduate pa lang kukunin na agad nilang teacher lalo na yung top students. Kaya if you are lagging behind, gulat ka na lang, yung kaklase mo teacher na. I don't know w/ other majors of eng'g.... So if this is still true w/ them i suggest don't major in Civil in UST. HOpe this will be an eye opener to them kung di pa sila nagbabago ng gawi nila.

[enteng.00]

====> wotevah!

[HARE]

I used to have these kinds of sentiments when I was younger, I mean in my earlier years in college. But as I grow older, now that I'm in my 5th year-6th year stay in UST- I realized that it depends upon you after all.

I have this conclusion, the measure of the quality of the faculty/school is the best students they produce. So if you feel na mahina ka because of your professors, I think ikaw ang problema. Kung may grumaduate ng SUMMA CUMLAUDE at nag top sa board na ka batch mo, bakit ikaw hindi mo nagawa?

Kasi ikaw ang mahina, hindi ang school...

Its hard to explain, I hope you guys are getting my point!

[medokhil4]

oh well, ganyan talaga ang mga taga-UST, feeling sa lahat ng bagay, I feel sorry for all of you

pero sana wag ninyong i-level ang sarili nyo sa mga taga-UP, please lang, talunin niyo muna ang Ateneo at DLSU bago UP, OK !!!

[clawed_out]

you mean to say ganyan talaga lahat ng tao. iba iba ang gusto sa buhay.

ikaw, alam mo ba ang gusto mo sa buhay? more importantly, kilala mo ba sarili mo? you're all pootak.

did she claim that she went to UST just to beat the hell out of UP?

grow up.

[medokhil4]

you mean to say ganyan talaga lahat ng tao. iba iba ang gusto sa buhay.

ikaw, alam mo ba ang gusto mo sa buhay? more importantly, kilala mo ba sarili mo? you're all pootak.

did she claim that she went to UST just to beat the hell out of UP?

grow up.


she claimed ba naman na hindi niya care ang UPCAT, hello, out of 60,000 applicants only 3,000 lang ang nakakapasa sa UPCAT, piliin ba naman ang UST, oh well, siguro poor lang si samantha coz if not kukuha rin siya sa Ateneo at DLSU, alam naman po nating lahat na bagsakan ang UST ng flunkers ng UP, ADMU at DLSU, wag idenay at baka tamaan ng kidlat :mecry:

[peksser]

you mean to say ganyan talaga lahat ng tao. iba iba ang gusto sa buhay.

ikaw, alam mo ba ang gusto mo sa buhay? more importantly, kilala mo ba sarili mo? you're all pootak.

did she claim that she went to UST just to beat the hell out of UP?

grow up.


you hit it right clawed! As for HARE's comment/reply (be it meant for me or not), every school has its own right to have a SUMMA or whatever. UST may be good or is really good when it comes to other majors and i'm just saying my piece/observation during my college days there particularly in civil eng'g dept. And yung mga tao/estudyante, di naman nag aral sa UST para i-beat nga naman ang UP or other schools for that matter. UP minsan nagiging puntahan na rin dahil pag don ka nag=study, matalino ka. May perception na ganon. Ewan ko, pero it's just a state university,no big deal. You see, what i know is that before you could be fully granted to study there, you've to show them that your family's income fall before the poverty line(?). Now,look, kahit mayayaman pumapasok dyan. Well, kung alam ko lang na marami palang mas magagandang course na madaling tapusin, yeah ,why not, Kahit saang skul pinasok ko na sana. Iba na kc ngayon. Di na masyadong pinag iintindi kung saan ka grumaduate as long as you can live w/ your course and you can beat the hell out of Ateneo, De la Salle, UST, UP graduates. May kilala nga akong di naman graduate ng kahit anong mentioned schools, but she's really a good talker at matalino. The bottom line, still, it's not the school that counts, it's you. Well, i partly agree w/ HARE na rin. Pero, i beg to disagree not because a school could produce a set of good students (siguro owe it to perseverance na rin ng students and being resourceful,swerte ng mga students ngayon,may internet na...) or a SUMMA, you got to owe it all na/give full credit to the professors and the university..Let's say it should be a 50-50 share of both studes and professors but the things is, once you set foot in your major, it's the critical stage..professors should at least "care."
I just knew it and felt it, 3 of my professors in Soil eng'g, Hi-way eng'g, construction(?) did not give their best shot. Always nagmamadali and short cut. If only i could mention their names here..hmmm....

[medokhil4]

you hit it right clawed! As for HARE's comment/reply (be it meant for me or not), every school has its own right to have a SUMMA or whatever. UST may be good or is really good when it comes to other majors and i'm just saying my piece/observation during my college days there particularly in civil eng'g dept. And yung mga tao/estudyante, di naman nag aral sa UST para i-beat nga naman ang UP or other schools for that matter. UP minsan nagiging puntahan na rin dahil pag don ka nag=study, matalino ka. May perception na ganon. Ewan ko, pero it's just a state university,no big deal. You see, what i know is that before you could be fully granted to study there, you've to show them that your family's income fall before the poverty line(?). Talagang mahihirap pero may utak (since mataas ang score na dapat mong pasahan in their entrance exam?). Now,look, kahit mayayaman pumapasok dyan.


isa pa tong pasaway, halatang-halata na hindi kayo pumasa sa UPCAT, yun lang !!!!! :rotflmao:

[peksser]

isa pa tong pasaway, halatang-halata na hindi kayo pumasa sa UPCAT, yun lang !!!!! :rotflmao:

nyways,i did not take up UPDog..i mean UPCAT :D kidding lang po...
peace!

[Hisbenz]

opo, kung sa UST choice mo, siguradong bagsak ka sa UPCAT, wag na po tayong maglokohan

UST is a good school pero ka-liga po niya ang San Beda, FEU, Mapua, UE, San Sebastian, MIriam, St. Scho at Assumption *okay*


just shut up, mediocre! daga na namn to! huh

[medokhil4]

just shut up, mediocre! daga na namn to! huh


dapat po sa mga taga-UST niyo po sabihin yan kasi po hindi sila pumasa sa UPCAT, tsk...tsk.... :mecry:

[reyna_lauryn]

dapat po sa mga taga-UST niyo po sabihin yan kasi po hindi sila pumasa sa UPCAT, tsk...tsk.... :mecry:

poor, bitter soul, you! i can sense that you're one of those many, and i mean many (and i could attest to this) USTET flunkers who enrolled (or just pretending to be enrolled) in whatever non-quota course at UP. your apparent bitterness or jealousy towards UST clouds your (obviously insensible) judgment... reality check, please!

[medokhil4]

poor, bitter soul, you! i can sense that you're one of those many, and i mean many (and i could attest to this) USTET flunkers who enrolled (or just pretending to be enrolled) in whatever non-quota course at UP. your apparent bitterness or jealousy towards UST clouds your (obviously insensible) judgment... reality check, please!


bwahahahahahaha, me, UST flunker, bakit mahirap ba entrance exams niyo eh kahit elementary student kayang ipasa ang USTET niyo, EH !!!!

reality check, dapat ang thread na ito ay: my LAST choice was UST

:rotflmao:

[Tomasaiyan]

bwahahahahahaha, me, UST flunker, bakit mahirap ba entrance exams niyo eh kahit elementary student kayang ipasa ang USTET niyo, EH !!!!

reality check, dapat ang thread na ito ay: my LAST choice was UST

:rotflmao:
hello, schoolmate! bakit mo naman inaasar ang schoolmates natin?

:turncat:

[Tomasaiyan]

good for you.good for us... myself and medokphil...

Manalo't matalo, walang iwanan!
VIVA SANTO TOMAS!!!

:turncat:

[Dacs]

Daming naglilipana na alternicks ah ahehehe :D

[br0m0thymoLbLuE]

:rotflmao: Sows!... :lol: She's like kimberly4tams of FEU :rotflmao: :D

[-oka_atsilasal-]

kahit anong skul ka pa... be proud of it...

[medokhil4]

bwahahahahahaha, me, UST flunker, bakit mahirap ba entrance exams niyo eh kahit elementary student kayang ipasa ang USTET niyo, EH !!!!

reality check, dapat ang thread na ito ay: my LAST choice was UST

:rotflmao:


correction: ang thread po pala ay dapat - I HAVE NO CHOICE BUT UST *peace*

[br0m0thymoLbLuE]

Oh well... Sa mga taong first choice ang UST, good for you. Sa mga taong naniniwalang ang wala sa UP bagsak ng UPCAT, sows... for you :lol: Welcome freshmen!!! :rotflmao:

[Cyberspace_law]

dapat po sa mga taga-UST niyo po sabihin yan kasi po hindi sila pumasa sa UPCAT, tsk...tsk.... :mecry:


sabihin mo yan sa mga taga UP, kung tga UP ka man, which i really doubt.

yung bagong member ng UP pep ngayon, debarred siya sa UST, ibig sabihin kick out sa ust, sinalo ng mga taga UP. :rotflmao:

[popwinter]

yung bagong member ng UP pep ngayon, debarred siya sa UST, ibig sabihin kick out sa ust, sinalo ng mga taga UP. :rotflmao:


talaga? kick out ng UST sinalo ng UP? :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

[tintable]

^^^ it's UST's loss. hehe. at least she's in the right place now.

[clawed_out]

ANO KICK OUT NG USTe NAKAPASOK SA UP?! :p NAKU EH DI LAST CHOICE NIYA ANG UP?! Tapos UPCAT reject pa siya?!


People, we need to move on & leave this silly things behind.

[tintable]

^last choice sha ng UP...hehe, joke joke joke!

[clawed_out]

make that UP Pep. madami ang magaaluburuto dito! :glee:

[enteng.00]

bwahahaha!

[Hisbenz]

sabihin mo yan sa mga taga UP, kung tga UP ka man, which i really doubt.

yung bagong member ng UP pep ngayon, debarred siya sa UST, ibig sabihin kick out sa ust, sinalo ng mga taga UP. :rotflmao:


this is true at confirmed na. but then lets leave that as it is. i also have a debarred classmate before na lumipat sa UP, and this is not a rare case. so sa mga nagsasabing upcat rejects ang ust, better think twice. okay?

[Hisbenz]

^^^ it's UST's loss. hehe. at least she's in the right place now.


how can that be? in ust's term, "debarred" means more than 9 units ang binagsak mo, and it's a general policy in ust. so hindi siya capable sa ust's academic requirements. then good for him he's in UP, kanya kanyang impression na lang yan.

[swimbod21]

^ eh baka com arts o music lang ang course nya kaya sya nakapasok sa up.

[medokhil4]

sabihin mo yan sa mga taga UP, kung tga UP ka man, which i really doubt.

yung bagong member ng UP pep ngayon, debarred siya sa UST, ibig sabihin kick out sa ust, sinalo ng mga taga UP. :rotflmao:


debarred from UST, ows talaga, galing mong mag-imbento :rotflmao:

[tintable]

^^^eh baka naman kse wrong choice of course...malay naten nasa sports science na pala sha sa UP eh tas BS math pala sha sa UST...or tinamad lang talaga sha or whatever...we'll see kung uubra sha sa UP...or baka naman trip nyang mag school-hopping..

[enteng.00]

tintable, gaano ka ba kagaling at 'umubra' ka sa up?

[tintable]

^if i said yes you wouldn't shut up. if i said no, you wouldn't either. so what's the point?

[Hisbenz]

debarred from UST, ows talaga, galing mong mag-imbento :rotflmao:


this is true, fyi! but ill just shut up w/ the details. :)

[Hisbenz]

^^^eh baka naman kse wrong choice of course...malay naten nasa sports science na pala sha sa UP eh tas BS math pala sha sa UST...or tinamad lang talaga sha or whatever...we'll see kung uubra sha sa UP...or baka naman trip nyang mag school-hopping..


he belongs to a not so hard college.( i mean not that hard to maintain) well, from the arts and letters to that matter. pero let the story end there.

[enteng.00]

^if i said yes you wouldn't shut up. if i said no, you wouldn't either. so what's the point?

the point is bakit ka pikon?

bwahaha...haay, newbie syndrome. tsk tsk tsk.

[tintable]

he belongs to a not so hard college.( i mean not that hard to maintain) well, from the arts and letters to that matter. pero let the story end there.

as, so it's his fault. attitudinal. bka naman fine arts na sha ngayon...easier i guess, basta may talent ka.

[tintable]

the point is bakit ka pikon?

bwahaha...haay, newbie syndrome. tsk tsk tsk.

hehe. look who's talking :bop:

argue with substance.

picking on newbies...

[enteng.00]

i dont usually pick on any newbies, im particularly pickin' on you 'cause u seem so pikon. Ubra girl! bwahaha!

[Hisbenz]

as, so it's his fault. attitudinal. bka naman fine arts na sha ngayon...easier i guess, basta may talent ka.

not in the arts, but i think a reputable course in UP (well, of course majority in UP are). again let's just end there

the point i just want to imply is that, do not generalize that all ust students are upcat rejects. at some instances, they have to impart the credibility of the course offered between the two institutions. or lets say there are instances na hindi naman nila gusto sa UP (for some reasons, i don't know). simple naman di ba.

people here engages in a whirlwind of thoughts and offers only one idea that ust are upcat rejects. and that's stupid.

[tintable]

i dont usually pick on any newbies, im particularly pickin' on you 'cause u seem so pikon. Ubra girl! bwahaha!

oh really, review your past posts.

not in the arts, but i think a reputable course in UP (well, of course majority in UP are). again let's just end there

the point i just want to imply is that, do not generalize that all ust students are upcat rejects. at some instances, they have to impart the credibility of the course offered between the two institutions. or lets say there are instances na hindi naman nila gusto sa UP (for some reasons, i don't know). simple naman di ba.

people here engages in a whirlwind of thoughts and offers only one idea that ust are upcat rejects. and that's stupid.

I can't really blame those people who bash at times. you know, everyone's out to defend and protect their alma matter.

[Hisbenz]

I can't really blame those people who bash at time. you know, everyone's out to defend and protect their alma matter.


let them,(mga newbie man or dati na) di nila alam ang tunay na UP at UST. nobody can take the fact that both are good academic institutions.


The problem is that many here in Pex esp. to the newbies are carried away with using generalizations, motherhood statements and witticisms to support their arguments. and that resorts to rehashing old one-liners, na kesyo, ust ay jologs, ust ay upcat rejects. again that's stupid. they just can't deny ust's excellence in academe. peace.

[tintable]

^I know, not unless you've been in both institutions.

Nah, UP people may be doing that because Thomasians have also given their share of criticism and pun and Ateaneans are doing the same because of the remarks unwittingly posted by Lasallians. The cycle goes on forever as long as there are opportunities to brag about how well their own schools are performing.

[Hisbenz]

^I know, not unless you've been in both institutions.

Nah, UP people may be doing that because Thomasians have also given their share of criticism and pun and Ateaneans are doing the same because of the remarks unwittingly posted by Lasallians. The cycle goes on forever as long as there are opportunities to brag about how well their own schools are performing.


that's filipino character. really endemic. :rotflmao:

[tintable]

it's hard to admit, though I must say that majority are enjoying it like some kind of entertainment...

[samantha_jones]

Question? Paano naman masusukat ang financial status by the school? Hello...yung ginastos ko sa UST mas higit pa sa gagastusin ko sa 4 year course ko sa Ateneo or DLSU. No offense to ADMU and DLSU...I know you're very expensive schools. I can very well afford to send myself to ADMU or DLSU.

pekser: Actually I noticed that too. Pero I think they're trying to do something about profs who are always busy with their "real jobs". Like in my college, the profs who have "real jobs" still go to class. If they really can't make it they assign a homework or something. Pero hindi na pwede yung absent lagi prof. Sometimes may substitute na din. I don't know how it is for eng'g students though.

Hisbenz and Tinatable:
Opinion thread lang naman ito. Actually I was hoping the replies would be...my first choice was ADMU or DLSU or UE or UAP or UCLA or Taliesin or NYU naman because they're the best in...blah blah.

[enteng.00]

^I know, not unless you've been in both institutions.

Nah, UP people may be doing that because Thomasians have also given their share of criticism and pun and Ateaneans are doing the same because of the remarks unwittingly posted by Lasallians. The cycle goes on forever as long as there are opportunities to brag about how well their own schools are performing.

and you belong to those 'UP People' who are doing that!? Now, aside from being rigtheous, you are generalizing 'UP People' same as, you generalize 'UST People'.



I wonder how my UP Medicine friends would react to your post.

And I personally wonder how would you fare if you are to be with them....

[shadow jedi]

my first choice was UP.

I wanted it so much that when I didn't get in it came as a shock. I was so disappointed that when I did get into UST I didn't take it quite seriously. Until now I wonder why I got into BS Math when that is my weakest and most hated subject. (Com Sci was a part of BS Math then).

I guess my hatred and dislike spelled my undoing that although I had high grades on my other subjects I was failing my math subjects. Just like in high school. Just like in grade school.

Needless to say I didn't graduate at UST. In my academic life I can say that I've been to the best schools, the small town schools and those diploma franchises that keep sprouting up on cities and on headlines too.

****

Ultimately, it works both ways. It is not entirely up to an institution to mold a student and all the best teachers will not help when someone just doesn't want to learn.

In the same way that I've seen students that really flourish despite poor instruction (its ironic that these teachers are so proud of them when in reality these students haven't learned anything from them). Then there are those whose entire life turned around because they got into a good school. Their horizons were broadened and that flame of knowledge led them to seek the zenith of their potential.

[samantha_jones]

shadow: Wow too bad for you. But pwede ka naman magtransfer after your first yr diba? Actually I know someone who wanted to get into UP so bad when she didn't reach the cut-off grade she cried! Pero all is well she got into Ateneo and enjoyed naman there. I think its better to make most of the situation. :D And I agree to the last part of your message. :D

[Hisbenz]

Hisbenz and Tinatable:
Opinion thread lang naman ito. Actually I was hoping the replies would be...my first choice was ADMU or DLSU or UE or UAP or UCLA or Taliesin or NYU naman because they're the best in...blah blah.

i understand, but others will eventually make it as a bashing thread. well, what's new, daming junks and trolls. :rotflmao:

[tintable]

and you belong to those 'UP People' who are doing that!? Now, aside from being rigtheous, you are generalizing 'UP People' same as, you generalize 'UST People'.



I wonder how my UP Medicine friends would react to your post.

And I personally wonder how would you fare if you are to be with them....

The truth may hurt but it is still the truth.

I have friends and orgmates from UPCM and we're doing very well.

Starfish.

[Altwegg]

Inuulit ko. Eh ano bang pakialam natin kung first choice nya ang UST? Bakit ang daming tse-tse buretse pa?

[blackdragon]

sows... :rolleyes: May bumabagsak pala sa UPCAT? Ang alam ko kasi walang "failed" na nakasulat sa pichuchuging mail letter kapag hindi ka nakaabot sa cut off... Hmmm... matanong nga sa UP Admin yan :rotflmao:

partially correct

[blackdragon]

Hahaha :rotflmao: as if naman lahat ng nasa UP pasado ng pinakamamahal nilang UPCAT :bop:

definitely true

[samantha_jones]

Altwegg: Obviously people have a lot of opinion. It's fun reading them especially the stupid ones. :D

[Argyle]

Took UPCAT and ACET only. I passed UPCAT with my first course choice (chem eng). Chose ADMU coz my first choice there was more exotic, go figure.

[samantha_jones]

Exotic? I didn't know you can describe a course such. Lalang.

Took upcat, ustet and mapua exam: passed all three chose UST because they're the best in the course I chose.

Hey question Argyle: Do you have a sociology program at ADMU?

[Argyle]

Just look at the course roster of Ateneo, you'll find lots of exotic courses (BS ganito with ganyan, BS Applied ganyan with ganito, etc) :p Exotic sounding, ayan :)

As for sociology, I'm not very familiar with the program. You might want to look here (http://www.ateneo.edu/office.php?office_id=355)instead

[stepehenyan@12]

first choice ko rin UST kaya lang minalas. sa UP di ko tinuloy kumuha ng UPCAT.

[mark_christian]

My first choice was definitely UP Dilliman (Civil Engineering or Accountancy)...

[mark_christian]

My first choice was definitely UP Dilliman (Civil Engineering or Accountancy).

It cannot be denied that UP is the premier educational institution in the Philippines.

But given the financial resources, Ateneo de Manila is the best for me.

Unfortunately, masyadong mahal ang cost of living sa Manila. So, i tried USC sa Cebu. No regrets, I got the best value for my parents' money.

USC is the oldest existing university in Asia (established in 1595 and granted a university status in 1948)!

USC excels in almost all fields (though not necessarily # 1): Law, Architecture, Pharmacy, Accountancy, Engineering, etc. as evidenced by its performance in licensure exams, among others!

University of San Carlos, the academic institution of quality and excellence, is a leading university in the south!

[mykel14]

share ko lang po

4th year high school student po ako

ndi po ako naniniwala na ang UST ay bagsakan ng mga bumagsak sa UP, Ateneo, DLSU

i have a classmate..and ndi cia kumuha ng UPCAT kasi desidido na **** cia na sa UST pumasok...

[enteng.00]

USC is the oldest existing university in Asia (established in 1595 and granted a university status in 1948)!




there's something wrong with this post.

[samantha_jones]

^Kala ko UST is the oldest? Is history wrong?

[Argyle]

*You did not see this post*
Sorry, made a mistake :D

[enteng.00]

^Kala ko UST is the oldest? Is history wrong?


no samantha_jones, there's nothing wrong with the history, it is the information that is wrong, that some people carelessly teach or taught others.

this issuse has been debated, re-debated, solved and resolved herein and out of Pex.

as far as I know, both schools (UST and USC) resolved the issue. it is UST that is the oldest existing university and USC is the oldest school.

maybe some other people just dont get the difference.....

[daaaaaga]

for me and my whole family, ust is never a choice.

come to think of it, even my friends never considered ust.

[voltaire_mad]

Lapit na ulit ma ban.

[atenean2king]

UST is a fair school tulad ng UE,FEU, PLM,Adamson.
In reality UST is way behind the big 3 school ( UP, Ateneo and DLSU ) . UP is the choice of the best students in most high school.
Sayang 400 years of existence tinalo pa ng ibang school. Kailangang mag improve kung gustong humanay sa magagaling.Even the college of medicine is just as good as UE and FEU - it is not way superior pero pwede na rin.
Even in Engineering and Architecture the choice ng karamihan ay UP, Mapua, DLSU. Sorry to say for you.


UST is my last choice and a fair choice but not the best choice. PEACE.

[samantha_jones]

^To each his own atenean...

enteng: okay baka kasi maya royal and pontifical nalang...haha

daaaga: whatever you say.

I'm still proud and happy to be a Thomasian.

[br0m0thymoLbLuE]

Come on... these are just perceptions of SOME people... And by the way, welcome to the world of PEX where trolls brush the hills, alternicks swift the skies, schools haters flock the oceans, and rats resurrect like there's no tomorrow:lol:

So what if their first choice of campus is UST? Buti sana kung yung iba dito ang nagpapaaral sa kanila. I am not a pro nor anti UST first choice highschool seniors. This is just to enlighten some people here that whatever your first choice of campus is, be sure na hindi mo yun pagsisisihan.:) And by the way, one cant say that DLSU nor ADMU is way way way ahead of UST. Mag offer muna sila ng courses na parehong pareho na inoofer ng UST. Then we'll talk again.:)

Natawa lang ako nang ang isang Atenista ay nagsalita patungkol sa Medicine at Architecture course ng UST, buti sana kung meron din sila non, pero wala eh! Sows... :lol:

[samantha_jones]

^You're absolutely right.

[popwinter]

Natawa lang ako nang ang isang Atenista ay nagsalita patungkol sa Medicine at Architecture course ng UST, buti sana kung meron din sila non, pero wala eh! Sows... :lol:

e what does that atenean know? inggit lang. :rotflmao:

[queen_elvira]

UST is a fair school tulad ng UE,FEU, PLM,Adamson.
In reality UST is way behind the big 3 school ( UP, Ateneo and DLSU ) . UP is the choice of the best students in most high school.
Sayang 400 years of existence tinalo pa ng ibang school. Kailangang mag improve kung gustong humanay sa magagaling.Even the college of medicine is just as good as UE and FEU - it is not way superior pero pwede na rin.
Even in Engineering and Architecture the choice ng karamihan ay UP, Mapua, DLSU. Sorry to say for you.


UST is my last choice and a fair choice but not the best choice. PEACE.

Please don't insult ateneo with your stupidity and wrong grammar... Peace.

[atenean2king]

Ang Pamantasan Ni Mang Thomas (UST) is as good as the lechon sauce but is not as good as the meat. Most of our teachers and guidance counsellor doesnt even mention your school for the entrance exam - UPCAT,ACET,DLSU and Others are the choice. Lets be real- You are not in their league.
It is a fair choice if you dont make to this better school than yours- until there is an improvement which can be achieved later -baka in another 10,20, or 500 years. :rotflmao: For now you are not in the first choice of the best students in the land.That is a fact. Lets be real. Kaya nga fair fallback.Fair-Average school si Mang Thomas. :lol:

[queen_elvira]

Ang Pamantasan Ni Mang Thomas (UST) is as good as the lechon sauce but is not as good as the meat. :lol:

Excuse me, let me tell you that that is the dumbest analogy I've ever read... Clearly you're not from the Ateneo. I feel so sorry for whichever school you came from...

[atenean2king]

^^ Ang puso mo--- You are excuse- The truth hurts but it will set you free.
Ang Pamantasan ni Mang Thomas ( UST ) is the first choice of royalty to appease you. :lol: *okay*

[br0m0thymoLbLuE]

Number one, hindi sinisingit ng UST ang sarili nito sa mga school na pinagbabanggit mo.:) Ewan ko nga ba kung bakit pinagpipilitan mong idikit ang Ateneo sa UP eh...:lol: Number two, weno ngayon if UST doesnt get your so called best senior students? Atleast UST produces graduates that can go toe to toe with your self proclaimed finest graduates. Third, wag kang mag english. :lol:

[br0m0thymoLbLuE]

Nirerespeto ko si St. Ignatius de Loyola. Hindi ako magsasabi ng blasphemy by insulting the names of saints.:)

[samantha_jones]

^^I agree. Wag ka na magenglish napapahiya ang mga better speakers sa school na nirerepresent mo by using it in your nick.

Anyway I'm pretty sure that you did not pass the english portion of the USTET. Past or present tense lang you can't even use it properly.

You are so simple minded, atenean2king.

[br0m0thymoLbLuE]

Dont worry Ateneans, i wont believe atenean2king is from ateneo. :)
If he really is... well... I guess this could be a great convo to laugh at. :lol:

[samantha_jones]

^^ In every school there should at least be one laughing stock.

[YellowArcher333]

yikes.. dont bothered that guy.. sure si me HINDI sya ateneans...

well for me.. Second choice ko lang pow ang USTe... kasi mas magaling po la salle eh.. state in the arts facilities, great faculty members... nag dami pa pong matatalino! rich and intelligents pa po...
tska medyo pangmahirap ang uste eh... para pong mga taga UP ang looks ng students sa inyo.. hindi po me bagay...
no offense meant po...

GO La Salle! luvs me to..
luvs me din ang USte pow..

[atenean2king]

Ang dami namang war freak dito. Pati Ingles ko ay pinupuna. ;)
Ang Pamantasan ni Mang Thomas (UST) was never a choice for our graduating class- Everyone is taking the UPCAT,ACET, DLSU and some specialized school (Mapua and UAP) but not UST. BAKIT ? We don’t know. UST doesn’t ring a bell if we say we will try Mang Thomas as the school of choice. Bakit ?- That is the question that your own school has to address to. Good quality ba ang school- average and fair is the logical answer. SUPERIOR- maybe later and there is always a room for excellence (di yan ketsup). Peace :rotflmao: *okay*

[atenean2king]

^^I agree. Wag ka na magenglish napapahiya ang mga better speakers sa school na nirerepresent mo by using it in your nick.

Anyway I'm pretty sure that you did not pass the english portion of the USTET. Past or present tense lang you can't even use it properly.

You are so simple minded, atenean2king.
Ang yabang mo naman Samatha. Sa totoo lang - lagapak ka or rejected ka sa UPCAT, ACET at DLSU kaya si Mang Thomas (UST) ang first choice mo. Paawa ka pa. Mangarap ka at magising. Lets be real.
Here is the testimony of one of your alumni
Testimony from MangThomas Alumni- Peksser

i don't know if this is the right thread to go to. Anyway, i took up eng'g in UST way back in the 80's. The thing is, most of our profs (i was majoring in CE) are those who took their profession (as our teachers) as mere sideline. you see, late sila always for class then they will hurrily take off for their "real jobs" (karamihan sa kanila were working for DPWH)!! Wala kang matutunan. PUro kopya sa blackboard and/or konting explanations. Dapat alisin na ng UST ang ganitong sistema sa eng'g nila most especially sa Civil Eng'g Dept. Wow!! Madalas nga newly graduate pa lang kukunin na agad nilang teacher lalo na yung top students. Kaya if you are lagging behind, gulat ka na lang, yung kaklase mo teacher na. I don't know w/ other majors of eng'g.... So if this is still true w/ them i suggest don't major in Civil in UST. HOpe this will be an eye opener to them kung di pa sila nagbabago ng gawi nila.
:rotflmao:

[voltaire_mad]

Oh well, the University of Santo Tomas is named after one of the Dominican saints, St. Thomas Aquinas. By replacing the name of the saint with another name with disrespect, this pexer puts the name of St. Thomas Aquinas in a bad light. It just goes to show what kind of education, or lack thereof, this pexer has. Its obvious that this pexer is just here to create trouble. Just don't mind him/her.

[atenean2king]

Oh well, the University of Santo Tomas is named after one of the Dominican saints, St. Thomas Aquinas. By replacing the name of the saint with another name with disrespect, this pexer puts the name of St. Thomas Aquinas in a bad light. It just goes to show what kind of education, or lack thereof, this pexer has. Its obvious that this pexer is just here to create trouble. Just don't mind him/her.
Si Mang thomas is a sinner just like you and me and dont put a premium on it. That kind of religion has victimized generations of Pinoys. Even Rizal ay isinusuka
ang mga prayle ni mang Thomas during his time. Peace ;)

[samantha_jones]

Ang yabang mo naman Samatha. Sa totoo lang - lagapak ka or rejected ka sa UPCAT, ACET at DLSU kaya si Mang Thomas (UST) ang first choice mo. Paawa ka pa. Mangarap ka at magising. Lets be real.
Here is the testimony of one of your alumni
Testimony from MangThomas Alumni- Peksser

i don't know if this is the right thread to go to. Anyway, i took up eng'g in UST way back in the 80's. The thing is, most of our profs (i was majoring in CE) are those who took their profession (as our teachers) as mere sideline. you see, late sila always for class then they will hurrily take off for their "real jobs" (karamihan sa kanila were working for DPWH)!! Wala kang matutunan. PUro kopya sa blackboard and/or konting explanations. Dapat alisin na ng UST ang ganitong sistema sa eng'g nila most especially sa Civil Eng'g Dept. Wow!! Madalas nga newly graduate pa lang kukunin na agad nilang teacher lalo na yung top students. Kaya if you are lagging behind, gulat ka na lang, yung kaklase mo teacher na. I don't know w/ other majors of eng'g.... So if this is still true w/ them i suggest don't major in Civil in UST. HOpe this will be an eye opener to them kung di pa sila nagbabago ng gawi nila.
:rotflmao:

Bakit naman ako magpapaawa effect? For your information I passed UPCAT and I didn't take ACET or the exam at DLSU because they didn't offer the course I wanted to take. I am also not from the engg department. And come on most collegiate teachers have real jobs, most teachers dont earn their keep from teaching, besides sayang naman ang brillance nila. You're so mediocre. :rotflmao: And that was in the 80's if you didn't notice we're already on a different centurym you probably just didn't evolve like the rest of us did.

voltaire: Its easy to see his small brain didn't understand a word you're saying. :rotflmao:

[atenean2king]

Bakit naman ako magpapaawa effect? For your information I passed UPCAT and I didn't take ACET or the exam at DLSU because they didn't offer the course I wanted to take. I am also not from the engg department. And come on most collegiate teachers have real jobs, most teachers dont earn their keep from teaching, besides sayang naman ang brillance nila. You're so mediocre. :rotflmao: And that was in the 80's if you didn't notice we're already on a different centurym you probably just didn't evolve like the rest of us did.

voltaire: Its easy to see his small brain didn't understand a word you're saying. :rotflmao:
Samatha passed the UPCAT and chosed UST (Ang Pamantasan ni mang Thomas).- Bolahin mo ang ........mong panot . Your ant brain will believe this. :rotflmao:
Ang Pamantasan ni Mang Thomas (UST) is the first choice of the best incoming freshman in the country. After 400 years has evolve as a mediocre or the best na nga university in the country. Wala yatang bibili niyan.You are behind the big three UP, Ateneo and DLSU. Masakit pero that is the fact for now. Humabol kayo if you want recognition. For now Mang Thomas is still the
fallback choice. :D

[DavidAames]

^ask ko lang samantha, pumasa ka ba sa UPCAT coz if yes, I'm sure dun ka mag-aaral, heloooo, UP po kaya 'yon, ano naman laban ng UST ?

hayy...stop the bashing....there are more Thomasians in the real world than any other school...

[samantha_jones]

DavidAames: I think we're (thomasians) are everywhere.

Some people just don't follow...geez.

[angrymapletree]

for atenean2king:

UST is a PONTIFICAL and ROYAL University..if you even know what that means. There are only 29 of these in the world so you can't just say that it's just like any other school in the Philippines, because it's not. The people who study here are not only seekers of education that would make them globally competitive, but also of the social teachings of the church and moral guidance. When they venture out into the real world, they apply what they have learned with dignity and compassion for the glory and love of God.

If you still think that the people here are rejects of other schools, think again my friend. Perhaps you should be after the kind of education UST provides.

[-oka_atsilasal-]

what?!?! pinalampas mo ang UPCAT!!!
oh my...

[-oka_atsilasal-]

what?!?! pinalampas mo ang UPCAT!!!
oh my...

animo la salle

[br0m0thymoLbLuE]

sows... lalo lang sumasaya si atenista wannabe kasi pinapatulan nyo :lol:

Thomasians know UST better so dont get easily intimidated by the posts of lower forms here in PEX. :rotflmao:

Just be proud, UST is a very good school. *okay*

[atenean2king]

for atenean2king:

UST is a PONTIFICAL and ROYAL University..if you even know what that means. There are only 29 of these in the world so you can't just say that it's just like any other school in the Philippines, because it's not. The people who study here are not only seekers of education that would make them globally competitive, but also of the social teachings of the church and moral guidance. When they venture out into the real world, they apply what they have learned with dignity and compassion for the glory and love of God.

If you still think that the people here are rejects of other schools, think again my friend. Perhaps you should be after the kind of education UST provides.
I am not bashing your beloved school (UST- Ang Pamantasan ni Mang Thomas). You are now in 400 years of existence with the flowery boast of Royal and Pontifical university.Can you support it with hard facts that you will really glorified God. Say of the 5000 students you have how many are offered scholarships to the poor and deserving pinoy students or do you educate only the rich elite (100 years ago) just like before.What have done to your surroundings? You are claiming that you are clean among the dirty surrounding-where is your community involvement there?
Rizal’s book Noli and Fili portrays the bigoted friars with the veil of religion were part of the abusive Spanish Colonial rule in the Philippines.What have you done to correct this?
Your Theology- Blasphemy is never applied to a mere man (worshipping –Mang Thomas-a sinner just like you and me). You can blaspheme our God but not Mang Thomas .
On topic- Kaya ang perception naming sa inyo ay parang UE, FEU and Adamson kayo dahil walang makitang kaibahan na hahanga ka at baka tularan pa.Take this a challenge at huwag magalit. Peace.
*okay* :rotflmao:

[Bazooka_Joe]

Thomasians, just ignore this obvious troll.

atenean2king
Member

Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 10 <<< 8 were posted in this thread. kahanga hanga. devaaahhh! :D

nababaliw ampotah kakaisip sa The Royal and Pontifical UST . haha!


:blowsmoke:

[atomic7bomber]

Samatha passed the UPCAT and chosed UST (Ang Pamantasan ni mang Thomas).- Bolahin mo ang ........mong panot . Your ant brain will believe this. :rotflmao:
Ang Pamantasan ni Mang Thomas (UST) is the first choice of the best incoming freshman in the country. After 400 years has evolve as a mediocre or the best na nga university in the country. Wala yatang bibili niyan.You are behind the big three UP, Ateneo and DLSU. Masakit pero that is the fact for now. Humabol kayo if you want recognition. For now Mang Thomas is still the
fallback choice. :D
Atenean mabuti nga may UST kung hindi wala sana akong school na papasukan after I failed the UPCAT. I had good memories at USTE pero talagang hinde de kalidad ang teachers sa Engineering. Kahit bata pa at new graduate e teacher na. My other classmate failed the ACET too and UST was a good alternate.
Baka mabaliw si Samantha if UST is not here. ;) Viva UST *okay*

[angrymapletree]

I am not bashing your beloved school (UST- Ang Pamantasan ni Mang Thomas). You are now in 400 years of existence with the flowery boast of Royal and Pontifical university.Can you support it with hard facts that you will really glorified God. Say of the 5000 students you have how many are offered scholarships to the poor and deserving pinoy students or do you educate only the rich elite (100 years ago) just like before.What have done to your surroundings? You are claiming that you are clean among the dirty surrounding-where is your community involvement there?
Rizal’s book Noli and Fili portrays the bigoted friars with the veil of religion were part of the abusive Spanish Colonial rule in the Philippines.What have you done to correct this?
Your Theology- Blasphemy is never applied to a mere man (worshipping –Mang Thomas-a sinner just like you and me). You can blaspheme our God but not Mang Thomas .
On topic- Kaya ang perception naming sa inyo ay parang UE, FEU and Adamson kayo dahil walang makitang kaibahan na hahanga ka at baka tularan pa.Take this a challenge at huwag magalit. Peace.
*okay* :rotflmao:


***yawn***

[samantha_jones]

Atenean mabuti nga may UST kung hindi wala sana akong school na papasukan after I failed the UPCAT. I had good memories at USTE pero talagang hinde de kalidad ang teachers sa Engineering. Kahit bata pa at new graduate e teacher na. My other classmate failed the ACET too and UST was a good alternate.
Baka mabaliw si Samantha if UST is not here. ;) Viva UST *okay*

Mababaliw talaga ako!!! Buti nalang time palang ni Rizal naestablish na siya. Haha! Bata (1st yr HS) pa lang ako I sinabi ko na sa sarili ko na I'm going to UST whether my mom likes it or not! If you can only give your spot to UP away sana binigay ko na. :D

[Countez]

I am not bashing your beloved school (UST- Ang Pamantasan ni Mang Thomas). You are now in 400 years of existence with the flowery boast of Royal and Pontifical university.Can you support it with hard facts that you will really glorified God. Say of the 5000 students you have how many are offered scholarships to the poor and deserving pinoy students or do you educate only the rich elite (100 years ago) just like before.What have done to your surroundings? You are claiming that you are clean among the dirty surrounding-where is your community involvement there?
Rizal’s book Noli and Fili portrays the bigoted friars with the veil of religion were part of the abusive Spanish Colonial rule in the Philippines.What have you done to correct this?
Your Theology- Blasphemy is never applied to a mere man (worshipping –Mang Thomas-a sinner just like you and me). You can blaspheme our God but not Mang Thomas .
On topic- Kaya ang perception naming sa inyo ay parang UE, FEU and Adamson kayo dahil walang makitang kaibahan na hahanga ka at baka tularan pa.Take this a challenge at huwag magalit. Peace.
*okay* :rotflmao:

it's pretty obvious you don't pray to St. Thomas Aquinas... cause of the way you talk, wala ka talagang pinag-aralan.

sana naman kung gusto mo tirahin yung thomasians, kami na lang. wag mo idamay yung taong walang ginawa sayo, by calling him names.

btw, we don't worship St. Thomas, you moron, he's our patron saint. we only worship God.

Please use your brain in the future. take that AS a challenge at huwag magalit. :lol:

[Hisbenz]

i just don' get why these trolls are fond of creating alternicks just to malign ust or dlsu.

let's be vigilant, and a call for all THOMASIANS

WAG ng Patulan

[swimbod21]

it's pretty obvious you don't pray to St. Thomas Aquinas... cause of the way you talk, wala ka talagang pinag-aralan.

sana naman kung gusto mo tirahin yung thomasians, kami na lang. wag mo idamay yung taong walang ginawa sayo, by calling him names.

btw, we don't worship St. Thomas, you moron, he's our patron saint. we only worship God.

Please use your brain in the future. take that AS a challenge at huwag magalit. :lol:

and yet nakaluhod kayo sa santo pag-nagdadasal.

[bearly_legal]

pero sige na nga reply sa thread na ito --- :rotflmao:

just wanna share a funny experience i had the other night at starbucks in west ave. --- i was in a verbal brawl with some Pontifical and Royal law students --- as in ang yabang --- hehehehehehe - ouch my pride kasi di ko masyado pinatulan --- :rotflmao:

la lang just wanna share - that we had a figuring over the best law school in the Philippines - after me and my precious editor and some friends from "the" UP --- over the issue of none other than the Hon. Raul gonzales - a graduate of the royal and pontifical UST --- tirahin ba ang pagiging liberal ng UP saying di daw kami tinuturuan ng values sa UP --- hay no comment na nga at baka mapahiya pa ang mga nagmamagaling na taga- royal and pontifical UST Law sa buong west avenue --- :rotflmao:

share ko lang po - kasi natatawa ako sa kadidiin ng royal and pontifical na ito :bop:

no offense meant UST peeps - :)

peace!

[Countez]

and yet nakaluhod kayo sa santo pag-nagdadasal.

If gusto mo tirahin ang mga katoliko, huwag ka dito...

[Hisbenz]

pero sige na nga reply sa thread na ito --- :rotflmao:

just wanna share a funny experience i had the other night at starbucks in west ave. --- i was in a verbal brawl with some Pontifical and Royal law students --- as in ang yabang --- hehehehehehe - ouch my pride kasi di ko masyado pinatulan --- :rotflmao:

la lang just wanna share - that we had a figuring over the best law school in the Philippines - after me and my precious editor and some friends from "the" UP --- over the issue of none other than the Hon. Raul gonzales - a graduate of the royal and pontifical UST --- tirahin ba ang pagiging liberal ng UP saying di daw kami tinuturuan ng values sa UP --- hay no comment na nga at baka mapahiya pa ang mga nagmamagaling na taga- royal and pontifical UST Law sa buong west avenue --- :

share ko lang po - kasi natatawa ako sa kadidiin ng royal and pontifical na ito

no offense meant UST peeps - :)

peace!

in defense to ust for being the pontifical. only 29(correct me if im wrong) universities that were granted as pontifical in the whole world. and the only one in the philippines.

and why do people stereotype UP as walang values? syempre this is not true, likewise do not judge these thomasians as nagmamagaling.

and as i was saying in the other thread, we experienced a perilous decline in our economic and MORAL, might. and who has the biggest share of people in our political brouhaha? "iskolar ng bayan" daw. :D

[Countez]

Di pa pala ko nagpost tungkol sa topic, so here:

my first choice was UP kasi malapit lang sa bahay namin and super mura ng tuition fee...
i went to UST instead kasi ndi ako nakapasok sa UP. and my dad's friends say UST is the best in Architecture... so buti na lang. :D

[samantha_jones]

Countez: I have a slight perception we were classmates...its your nick kasi so familliar. AR 5-2 2004.

[ustigas2005]

I was reading a couple of old posts/threads here in PEX and nabasa ko sa isang closed thread na 4th choice ang UST amongst the schools. Well as for me...UST was tops. I didnt even care about the UPCAT, nauna ko lang siya i-take and I almost didnt bother reading the questions because I didn't intend to study at UP even if my mom wanted me to. I'm a thomasian through and through. And I didn't even bother submitting applications to Ateneo or La Salle. It was UST or nothing.

End of Sharing. *okay*

Schools have their own fortes and this is why students choose these schools as a stepping stone into building their careers...
Good for you Samantha but why missed the UP if you passed it –sayang naman.If you are telling the truth .

I studied at UST in the 1990 ‘s because my uncle graduated there as an architect in the 50’s. I failed in the usual good schools-UP,Ateneo,Mapua and La Salle. I will not recommend UST even to my kids. Amoy amag ang mga rooms at binabaha pa. Ang baho ng paligid at maraming muggers. Sa quality ng teachers-regretable- parang Iskul Bukol ang ibang faculty members. May paisaisang magaling but most are mediocre- saying ang bayad mo and time.Even the lab equipments are old at minsan ay di gumagana. Mas advance pa yata yung high school lab equipment naming. May mukhang pera pang faculty- pa terror kuno pero gustong lagay. I have to take my MS to another school to compensate my poor undergraduate studies at UST- nakakahiya pero they need to improve.

[voltaire_mad]

Hmmm..., how early it is to be banned.

[voltaire_mad]

and yet nakaluhod kayo sa santo pag-nagdadasal.

Hmmm..., question lang, pag nakaluhod ba sa harap ng isang istatwa ibig sabihin sinasamba yung istatwa? Papano kung lumuhod ako sa harap ng picture ng yumao kong kamaganak, ibig sabihin ba sinasamba ko yung picture?

[voltaire_mad]

Si Mang thomas is a sinner just like you and me and dont put a premium on it. That kind of religion has victimized generations of Pinoys. Even Rizal ay isinusuka
ang mga prayle ni mang Thomas during his time. Peace ;)

Yes, sinners like you and me, and yet you continue to disrespect a name. I just hope you get the respect in the afterlife just like how you respect others right now. Peace na lang din.

[atenean2king]

Yes, sinners like you and me, and yet you continue to disrespect a name. I just hope you get the respect in the afterlife just like how you respect others right now. Peace na lang din.
Disrespect for what? Your own group ang dami ng nagmumura- a good catholic education indeed. I said Ang Pamantasan ni Mang Thomas (UST).
Mang-means Mister or Sir - Is that disrespectful. Common.
You are right I don’t believe in praying to your saints because I pray only to Jesus.How is that disrespectful to my belief in reverse?Peace.
:(

[samantha_jones]

USTIGAS: You failed MAPUA? OMG! I dont think anyone fails the Mapua Entrance Exams! Lalang sorry. Peace tayo. Anyway...why did I choose UST? A couple of reasons...

1. UST's reputation in the field of Architecture and Fine Arts.

2. My aunt graduated from Interior Design at UST and she has always said that if not for the kind of education she got at UST she wouldn't have been as good as she is now. Plus idol ko aunt ko.

3. A couple of names...Nationals Artists - Leandro Locsin, Pablo Antonio, Juan Nakpil. Plus some of the most brillant architects in the country today were from UST, Manosa Brothers, Felino Palafox, Carlos Arguelles...to name a few, even the first dean of UP College of Architecture was a UST Alumnus.

4. Facilities? The facilities have improved (thanks to the ballooning tuition fee) especially on the CFAD/CA department. Actually kahit sana ka magpunta sa Manila mabaho talaga at maraming muggers. Plus kahit ano improvement sa drainage ng UST which is ininprove talaga nila (Hindi na nagbabaha sa loob ng campus) e talagang hindi maganda ang geographical location ng lugar. May bago na kaming building. I guess masuwerte ako dahil when I went to UST they were in the process of modernizing their facilities and upgrading. If icocompare mo naman ang environment sa UST and UP (dahil nanghihinayang ka na mas pinili ko UST kasi sa UP), mas gusto ko sa UST, sa UP may mga dilapidated buildings, sayang di ginagamit tapos nagrereklamo sila kulang kasi kami sa facilities, kulang kami sa laboratories kasi wala daw budget pero umikot ka sa UP may mga buildings na nabubulok na lang...sayang...sana ni-utilize nila ang available faciltites nila. Plus top choice ko talaga UST kasi sa UP and I never regretted it. I am not trying bashing UP or anything its just that some people make that decision that other's think is a bit weird or minsan talagang whaaat? (that's what my mom said when I said I was going to UST) Kung pwede lang na pati master's ko sa UST why not!!! :D Siguro if I wanted to take up math or something else...I would've gone for UP.

[samantha_jones]

Deans Duet:
Yolly Reyes and Honny Fernandez
Interview by Julie Cabatit-Alegre
Reprinted from the Modern Living Section of the Philippine Star


Rivalry is common among schools. We see it wildly demonstrated during sports competitions or fiercely exhibited during intercollegiate debates. At times, it can revert into something dark and nasty, extending its tentacles beyond the campus and deep into the lives of the graduates as professionals.

But that is not the kind we’d like to dwell on here. There is competition of the enlightened kind. It challenges. It nurtures. It pushes forward, but it never pulls down. Some might even call it healthy. This is the kind that could bring two deans, of the two top schools of architecture in the country, together. After a recent CHED evaluation, the College of Architecture of the University of Santo Tomas and the University of the Philippines were recognized as centers of excellence. Their deans sat together for this duet interview, to bounce their thoughts, to and fro, to see where they intersect, to watch where they differ. The final score is simply the sum total of their separate passions for one and the same holy grail.

Dean Honrado “Honny” Fernandez is the Dean of the College of Architecture of the University of the Philippines. He holds a Ph.D. in the science of Art and Design from the University of Tsukuba (1988), a Master of Engineering in Architectural Design form the Tokyo Institute of Technology (1975), and a B.S. in Architecture from the University of the Philippines (1971).

This is his ninth year as the third dean of the UP College of Architecture. If he had his way, he’d like to have more time for creative work, he says, writing, painting, sculpting. Dean Fernandez also finds self-expression in his interior, landscape, and urban designs. He has an active architectural and environmental planning practice. Still, the greater chunk of his workday is dedicated to his academic and administrative functions. Outside of academe, he serves in different capacities as officer, director, or member of various groups such as the Council of Deans and Heads of Architecture Schools in the Philippines (CODHASP); the United Architects of the Philippines’ (UAP) Commission on Education as well as its Center for Philippine Architecture; the Advisory Council of the Philippine High School for the Arts (PHSA); the Philippine Institute of Environmental Planners (PIEP); and the Cultural Center of the Philippines (CCP). He is currently head of the Committee on Architecture of the National Commission of Culture and the Arts (NCCA). His projects include the Gallery Genesis, the interior of the Chinese-Filipino Museum in Intramuros, and the AFP Museum Exhibit Design. An ongoing project is the Aurora State College of Technology buildings and campus in Baler, which he is working on together with Architect Cristopher Espina and wife Ann.

Dean Fernandez is married to the former Josephine Evangelista. They have two sons, Honrado Jr., and Nicholas Jose. He came to the interview and pictorial, held at the Chocolate Kiss Cafe which he designed, at the Bahay ng Alumni in UP, wearing a playful Winnie the Pooh necktie, which nonetheless failed to detract from the breadth and depth of his thoughts and ideas. Dean Fernandez is a staunch advocate of the development of Filipino architecture, defining the task in these terms: “to produce architectural solutions that will bring out the best in ourselves as a people.”

Dean Yolanda “Yolly” David Reyes is the Dean of the College of Architecture and Fine Arts of the University of Sto. Tomas. She became Dean in 1991 and this is her third term. She received her education from UST from elementary to high school, to college and graduate school. She got her degree in B.S. Architecture in 1975, and M.S. Architecture in 1986. She is a candidate for a Ph.D. and a dean’s lister at the UP School of Urban and Regional Planning.

Dean Reyes is the first lady national president of the United Architects of the Philippines with close to 10,000 members and 78 chapters all over the country. She is active in various professional, civic, and religious organizations. She is the lone representative for Architecture in the Commission on Higher Education and Technical Panel for Engineering, Architecture and Maritime Education, and three-term president of the Council of Deans and Heads of Architecture Schools in the Philippines. She is a member of Continuing Professional Education for Architecture, and a council member in the Eastern Regional Organization for Planning and Housing (EAROPH) and the Architects Regional Council for Asia (ARCAsia).

Dean Reyes comes from a family of architects and engineers, starting with her father, Architect Norberto David Sr., from San Fernando, Pampanga. Two of her brothers, Norberto Jr. And Joel, are architects while two others, Justino II and Roberto, are civil engineers. She is married to Architect Romulo Reyes. They have three children, Rubirose, Roanna and Rommel.

Her various projects include the Communication Arts Building and Dormitory and Athletes Center both of Letran in Intramuros, Bahay Dominicano in Sto. Domingo and the Aquinas Convent in Legaspi, plus the Taal Lake Development Plan, the Conversion Plans for the US Bases in the Philippines, and the Master Development Plan for Military Camps.

Dean Reyes is particularly proud of the Caleruega Dominican Retreat House in Taal, Batangas, for which she was awarded the 1996 Design Award for Architecture by UAP. According to the citation, she “achieved a graceful blending of the natural environment and the built environment.” Dean Reyes believes that architecture is something that one should love and like doing because it entails a lot of hard work. She speaks strongly about the important role which the architect plays in shaping the environment and in influencing the lives of the people who live in that built environment.

She was awarded Most Outstanding Kapangpangan in Architecture in 1993 in her home province of Pampanga, and the Dangal Award from the UST Faculty in 1997. She is the recipient of the First Diamond Award from the UST Graduate School.

In the Landmark Novel The Fountainhead by renowned author Ayn Rand, her main character, Howard Roark, an extraordinary gifted architect speaks: “A building is alive, like a man. Its integrity is to follow its own truth, its one single theme, and to serve its own single purpose... Its maker gives it the soul and every wall, window and stairway to express it.” This is the architect. The task of his teacher must be nobler still. We went to this interview not quite sure to expect. We left fully enlightened.

Excerpts:

Philippine Star: How would you describe your curriculum? How is one different from or the same as the other?

DEAN YOLANDA REYES: All the architectural schools in the Philippines are supposed to follow the same curriculum, which is approved by the CHED. The CHED, though the Council of Deans and Heads of Architectural Schools, has revised the curriculum which is geared toward fields of specialization in preparation for globalization. For UST, we are focusing on conceptual designs in terms of functional planning in humanistic approach and architectural design or design character of buildings. That’s the strength of UST.

DEAN HONRADO FERNANDEZ: Traditionally, UP came to be strong in the sciences, perhaps because our first dean, Aurelio Juguilon, was not only an architect, he was also a civil engineer. He was followed by Geronimo “Ronnie” Manahan whose specialty was planning. As the third dean, I try very hard for the Filipino component in the development of architectural design.

We are also trying very hard to strengthen the R&D component, especially for the coming globalization, as Dean Yolly said. The importance of globalization is there, and there is a challenge to attend to R&D especially if we want to industrialize. Somehow the architectural practice here in the Philippines and the construction industry have been rather weak in terms of making industrialized building components that can simplify construction methods, maybe even bring down costs.

How intense is the competition between your two schools - or are we seeing more of cooperation between UP and UST?

FERNANDEZ: Hopefully, we have an exchange of bodies of knowledge and know-how. Now we see that cooperation is more important than competition. Before, they were pitting the two schools against each other, as to which one is better. Perhaps there was basis in the early years since UST had been there for a long time and UP was just starting. Even our teachers at that time were from UST.

REYES: Their first dean was a UST alumnus…

FERNANDEZ:… in architecture, although he finished civil engineering at UP. He established the College of Architecture at UP. So they’d say, “Parang anak lang naman kayo ng UST.” They’d rather pit us against each other.

REYES: But it’s nice also because it brings out challenges for the students. When we look around at the buildings, I for one, and most of us, would know immediately what school the architect came from. There is a certain characteristic. So a structure that is designed by a UST graduate is not only something very ordinary. He or she will always come out with something new, something innovative inn design. This is something we are very proud of. And we should also know what buildings are designed by the UP engineers. (Laughter).

FERNANDEZ:… because UP is strong in the sciences…

Is architecture a science or an art?

FERNANDEZ: It is both an art and a science. To some extent, it’s something that is related to the social sciences, because we deal with behavior, with perception, with psychology of space.

REYES: It’s both an art and a science that deals with functional planning and then inputting the aesthetics and the utilities. Those are the three important elements of design – beauty, function, and strength.

FERNANDEZ: UST is known for aesthetics, yung looks, maganda daw…

REYES: … but not to disappoint them with the functional planning. We always say that form follows function…

FERNANDEZ: If UST is known for aesthetics, those who defend UP would say that the orientation of UP would be in terms of problem solving because of the emphasis on the sciences. Sometimes people equate this with the rigidly functional works of the engineers, especially since the emphasis is on structure and planning. But of course in the end, both schools give importance to the three elements.

Let’s talk about your graduates, the big names you have produced.

FERNANDEZ: If you look at billboards, actually there are more names of those who come from UST than UP. Why? Because UP started only in 1956. Our oldest graduates would just be in their mid-50s.

REYES: UST is 200 years older than UP.

FERNANDEZ: Of course, they have produced three National Artists…

REYES: … Pablo Antonio, Leandro Locsin and Juan Nakpil…

FERNANDEZ: Ibigay naman ninyo sa amin yung isa, si Lindy Locsin. He also identifies with UP, the UP Chapel having been his very first project. And there are several buildings, not only in Diliman but in UP Los Banos that he has built. Does he have a building inside UST?

REYES: Well you see, UST transferred from Intramuros in 1924, so these buildings were coming up during that time when he was not an architect yet. And then, the other buildings came up very much later.

FERNANDEZ: In a few years, watch out for our graduates like Nestor David, the younger brother of Randy. He’s been doing some good projects like the nice resorts in Palawan, and the nice PNB buildings. Emmanuel Minana did some of the houses in Subic for the APEC meeting, as well as the renovation of the Ayala Museum.

REYES: Aside from the National Artists, we also have the Manosa brothers: Bobby, who is known for the Coconut Palace, and Manny who is a city planner; Carlos Arguelles who designed the Philam building; the late Gabriel Formoso, who did the PLDT building in Makati and the MWSS building in Balara; Engracio Mariano, who did the Bank of PI in Makati; and Cesar Canchela, who is known for the Canchela housing projects along Roxas Boulevard. Among the younger generation of architects who have already made names in the profession, there’s Nestor Mangio, who has done several buildings in Clark and Metro Manila, Ramon Licup and Jose Siao Ling, who designed many of the residential and mixed-use condominiums in Metro Manila, just to name a few. There’s Ramon Orlina, who is better known as a glass sculptor; and Jun Palafox, who is more of an urban planner.

FERNANDEZ: He did the big shopping malls like the SM Megamall, big developments like the one in Mandaluyong, and Splendido in Taal. There are other good architects who come from other schools like Cesar Cancio and Felipe Mendoza who are both from Mapua; Dr. Josie Ramos of Mapua is a planner and educator. Mapua was the very first to have a school of architecture.

What are the issues facing architecture schools today? Do we have enough teachers? How updated are teachers on trends? Are they practicing professionals or are they full time in the academe?

FERNANDEZ: The problem in architecture education is deeply rooted in the problem of the nation, on the economy. The compensation for teachers is not very good, so you have to rely on people who have commitment. I always say that teaching is a luxury. Either you are very rich, you don’t need the salary, or maybe, as in my case, I have toned down my needs and my wants so I don’t need much money to keep on teaching.

REYES: That’s very true. You have to be very committed. One criterion that I am very particular with before I admit new faculty members is their academic background. They must have at least, units on a Masters Degree Program. Of course, they must also be practicing their profession. They have to know the trends in architectural practice in order for them to impart relevant issues to the students. For those who are not in professional practice, we encourage them to do researches in order to contribute to architectural knowledge academically.

What is your faculty profile? What is the ratio of professors who are practicing architects versus those who are full time in academe?

REYES: In UST CAFA, we maintain a very high percentage of faculty members who are practicing their profession compared to those who are not, that is about 90 percent. Projects come and go and do not require the whole of your time, so it’s something that you can do while teaching at the same time. It is fact advisable to be practicing and teaching at the same time because it keeps you updated on the trends and design technology.

FERNANDEZ: In UP, we have more than 30 teachers in architecture, and if I am not mistaken, only two are not practicing, and only two don’t have a Masters Degree but are Masters students. And again, if I am not mistaken, four have Ph.Ds. It’s very strict, and you really have to make a strong justification if they do not have the academic qualifications. Although we realize that there are some very good potential teachers without Masters Degrees.

As far as the problems with the institutions, we have limited facilities. Our laboratories are not enough.

REYES: At UST, we have a very strong support from the administration, so we are able to upgrade our facilities. We have a computer center exclusive for architecture students, the classrooms have been air-conditioned to regulate the noise and high pollution index coming from the busy streets of Gov. Forbes and Espana. We have a building, the Beato Angelico, which houses two galleries, studios and workshops. It also serves as the location for the Research Office, the International Linkages Office and the Instructional Materials Workshops.

FERNANDEZ: Doon naman kami natalo ng UST, sa mga facilities. They got their dream earlier. We are just getting it now. The first building of the architecture complex is being constructed at the foot of the Executive House. Because we are strengthening our R&D, it will house our research laboratories and design studios.

REYES: WE run practically the same program.

FERNANDEZ: The most important thing is dedication.

REYES: First, they must have the academic background. They must be in the active practice of architecture. And they must have the dedication…

FERNANDEZ: … and commitment…

REYES: … and time.

FERNANDEZ: … time and love for…

REYES: …because teaching, as you know, is more of a vocation…

FERNANDEZ: I liken teaching to the sex act. I don’t know if I should say this…

REYES: Sige, para alam nilang mga bastos ang mga taga-UP. (Laughter).

FERNANDEZ: There is excitement and pleasure in stimulating the minds of students. You even have more pleasure and excitement in impregnating their minds with ideas. And then the climax is in the anticipation of what this will give birth to.

What is your school’s mission and vision?

REYES: The mission of the University is to “impart and promote to its community knowledge of the arts and sciences both sacred and civil…” Its vision is “to be a truly educative and evangelizing Christian community, dedicated to teaching, research, and community service.” The University has been active in community outreach programs – a concrete example of this is our involvement in the Mt. Pinatubo victims who are relocated in Tarlac. The administration is also keen on strengthening the research program of the University through the construction of the Research Complex, which was originally planned by the former Rector Rolando V. de la Rosa, OP. In our quest for academic excellence, we are in the process of implementing a comprehensive Faculty Development Program. It includes free graduate school studies for the faculty members, subsidized attendance and participation in local and international conferences, for a, lectures, seminars and workshops. We also organize in-house training and seminars by inviting foreign speakers. These promote healthy interaction between our faculty members and the foreign guests, which in turn facilitate the transfer of new knowledge to the College. We also promote exposures of our faculty members to our culture, especially in places with architectural and historical significance. We are pursuing all these because we’d like to develop a world-class architectural school. To complement the efforts I enumerated, we also developed international linkages with different schools and universities such as the Greenwich University in London, the Centenary College in New Jersey, the University of Western Australia in Perth, the Nippon Institute in Tokyo, and the National University in Singapore. We started developing linkages since the early 1990s in anticipation of the globalization trend. We send students and faculty members abroad, so that they can create contacts and bring with them the expertise of architectural schools abroad when they come back to the college, especially the new trends in arts and designs.

FERNANDEZ: UP is a government institution and our existence is rooted on the need to serve. We are mandated to serve. We exist primarily to uplift architectural education, to bring about improvements in the profession and in the practice. We exist even for the other schools, to work with the other schools in achieving excellence in architecture education. If they are excellent in certain aspects, we celebrate it. We speak about it; we promote it, even as we also try to achieve excellence in our own fields. We keep up with developments in technology. We work for economic equity and social harmony. And we have the guiding principle to work towards a nationalistic culture, not only in the production of an architecture that is more responsive to the Filipino people and expressive of ourselves, but also, through our students, to have a feeling of being one with the rest of society.

REYES: I think the difference between UP and UST is the approach to education. UST, as a Catholic University, must integrate the teachings of the Church in providing our students quality education. Our focus is not limited to the intellectual formation of the students but also their moral formation, which is clearly stated in the mission of the University.

FERNANDEZ: Pero ako, I promote stronger spirituality among my students. Siguro dito tayo magkakaiba. I tell my students, don’t let religion bring you away from God. You have to sharpen and develop your spirituality.

If President Erap were to name you as one of his advisers, what would you tell him? What about the urban landscape would you change?

FERNANDEZ: What I would tell him is, no thank you. E kasi naman, ang gulu-gulo.

REYES: If my opinion will be solicited, I would like to focus on the implementation of a very comprehensive redevelopment of land use and the planning of the metropolis. There are plans that can be implemented to improve the worsening situation; however, due to political reasons, they are not implemented. We badly need an urban renewal program. Open spaces must be enhanced due to the scarcity and our need for good visual image. We also have to restore the ecological soundness of the metropolis which will eventually mean decongesting Metro Manila. Decongesting Metro Manila entails relocation of squatter colonies which is slowly but effectively being undertaken by the present administration. New towns and communities must then be developed, where the relocated people need not leave their new communities to get a job, medical attention, education, etc. Of course it is easier said than done. I think there are existing feasible proposals that need strong political will to implement it to the stage of implementation. To complement the political will, there must be a budget. If the present administration is really pro-poor, I believe it must take a good look at this issue because it directly affects the living conditions of the poor – the people living in the squatter area and those who are homeless.

FERNANDEZ: I believe the problem cannot be solved by one person or by one administration. We have to have a change of heart, a change of orientation. We should truly and honestly be pro-people, not only the poor but the general population. If we were more concerned with the public, then our environment will be handled to benefit the majority, rather than just a few. Our streets, for example, benefit only those who have private cars. We have no concern for mass transportation. The MRT stations that are being built, it seems, are situated in places that will be very inconvenient for the users, the masses. They are not integrated so that it is easy to transfer from one stop to the next.

With the LRT, you have to walk a long distance form the bus stop to the station, tapos baku-bako ang sidewalk at maraming tubig ng pusali. It is so dehumanizing. The bus stops are in the wrong places. They do not have the right things that will respond to the needs of the people. There is not a single toilet in any of the LRT stations because although it was in the design, the decision-makers had them removed because they said the public will not use them properly and they will not be maintained, as if the need to go to the toilet will just go away. Our environment is reflective of a system that does not care to bring out the best in us.

If you were to point out to your students an example of good and bad architecture, what would these be?

FERNANDEZ: One of my favorites is the Philam Building at UN Avenue. The lines are so clean. It has louvers that prevent direct sunlight from entering, and yet you are not deprived of the beautiful view outside. It has beautiful spaces, like the lobby and the garden, the whole complex, including the auditorium. You feel good being in that place. The architect is Carlos D. Arguelles, from UST.

The old buildings here at UP are good. I like the high ceilings of Melchor Hall and the fact you have rooms and corridors that overlook the big trees. The architect is Cesar Cancio of Mapua. Ang ganda-ganda nung Quezon Hall, the administration building. Of course, they put a mezzanine, sinira nila. But the whole concept was done by Juan Nakpil, the National Artist, from UST.

And what is an example of a bad building?

FERNANDEZ: The Quezon City Hall. You feel bad. The corridors are small. Pupunta ka sa toilet, hindi kayo puwedeng magsalubong nung lumalabas. The toilets are very bad, the facilities, low ceilings, para kang pine-press.

REYES: I will be parochial in answering this part. I would say the main building of the University of Sto. Tomas is one of the best. It’s a very old building, dating back to the early 1920s, designed by a Dominican priest, Fr. Ruano. It has an architectural character to start with and very flexible planning. Like now, we are changing some of its functions from its former uses.

Then there is the Metropolitan Theater, an Art Deco design by Juan Arellano.

For bad structures, there are many. I a disgusted and sad because in most cases, there are no architects involved. Owners think that they are saving money by omitting the service of an architect because of professional fees, not realizing that there are other aspects that make a structure expensive, which can be addressed by an architect.

What are the buildings that are worth saving and that we really have to make an effort to preserve?

FERNANDEZ: Structures that have been meaningful in our lives. The Metropolitan Theater. The Manila City Hall.

REYES: Those that depict a certain period in time, buildings where important historical events happened, those designed by our National Artists, and those that offer different styles of architectural character. Some examples of these would be, as I mentioned, the Metropolitan Theater, the Manila City Hall, the Post Office and PICC because it was able to convey a feeling of lightness as expressed in the floating concrete.

FERNANDEZ: … but also because of what it has done to us. For all the negative things we say about Mrs. Marcos, meron namang magandang nagawa sa atin yung CCP.

REYES: Then we have old churches like San Agustin, the Manila Cathedral, San Sebastian Church…

FERNANDEZ: But not only historical places, because there are some buildings without historical value but have architectural value.

REYES: The difficulty, I think, is mostly on the owners of these structures. Sometimes, they do not want to cooperate.

FERNANDEZ: Ay naku, I saw a beautiful old church, but it was modernized. Sabi ko, para yung Lola ko, pina face-lift at pinag mini-skirt. E lola siya. Hindi bagay sa kanya.

Can you give an example of something that was actually demolished without regard for its value?

FERNANDEZ: The ice plant across the Metropolitan Theater, at the foot of Quezon Bridge, because of the LRT. You know that was a beautiful structure that could have been made into something else, a museum, a gallery…

Are there now laws that would protect buildings of a certain age? And what is the penalty?

FERNANDEZ: Kung anu-ano, pero walang sumusunod. Implementation is weak. Tutuban almost got demolished. But because of protests from the cultural community, the architect was forced not to demolish it. We have such beautiful laws but there are other laws that negate those beautiful laws. For example, we have zoning. We're not supposed to build within a certain vicinity structures taller than the Quezon Memorial. But look, the City Hall is the first one to be built higher. Because our local government officials are allowed spot zoning.

REYES: That's why in that comprehensive master plan, you can dictate the heights o buildings in certain zones. The density can also be controlled because it is also important. You have utilities, such as electricity, water supply, and transportation that are in place to serve only a certain number.

How about landscape architecture? Is this a related field or is it part of your discipline?

FERNANDEZ: In our college, we also offer a landscape architecture program. But perhaps, more important than landscape architecture, it's urban design that is more of the issue here, because you see, in the Philippines, there was a time when we were mixed up with environmental planners and urban designers. Planning deals more with two-dimensional (aspects), like policies, land use, socio-economic plans, institutional plans.

REYES: At UST, we don't have a landscape architecture course and environmental planning. But in the masteral program that we offer in the University, we have architecture and planning which includes urban design.

What do you have to say about new developments like Fort Bonifacio? How would you develop it if you were involved?

FERNANDEZ: We are not involved. But the other year, the theses of our students focused on the projects in Fort Bonifacio, so they had studies. Maganda naman yung mga ginagawa nila. It's just that parang iba yung mga nasa plano. In their plans, there are many wooded areas and open spaces. Tapos biglang puputulin yung mga puno. Yun lang, parang hindi mo mai-reconcile. Tapos mayroon mga foreign architects na doon, sina I.M. Pei…

REYES: I think they commissioned foreign architects for that particular project, which is a big loss for Filipino architects. It's a lost opportunity to showcase the talent of local architects and bring out the best in them. Cases such as these are a good reason for us to ponder and ask, "How are we going to make a name, both local and international, if the government itself or the Filipinos themselves do not patronize local architects? Where do we start?" Maybe we can begin with the saying "Charity begins at home." However, there is a reason for this, some of which are the market forces. For example, the sales of a high-rise condominium is greatly influenced when a known foreign architect is identified with it. In fact it is included in the marketing plan of the building.

FERNANDEZ: Perhaps it's part of globalization. Singaporean architects complain that foreign architects have the bigger, more substantial projects in Singapore. It's just that they cannot really complain because they are not really lacking in projects. They also get many other projects na hind pang landmark talaga, pero hindi sila ginugutom.

REYES: I understand, although I'm not very sure, even Lee Kwan Yew has mentioned that the best architects are Filipinos.

FERNANDEZ: I have also heard that it is really more expensive to get Filipino architects than to get foreign architects, because their way of doing things has been simplified. They need less documents to provide service to their clients. They already have a lot of industrialized building components. You no longer have to reinvent the door or each and every window. Our architects who go abroad can adopt it, but we still do not have those standardized building components in the Philippines.

REYES: Going to design, those techniques can also be done by local architects, especially if you go into the details of building construction and the process of utilizing the modular system of construction. But more than this, the issue, I think, is more on the leadership of the project - on who takes the lead role in the local projects. The role of foreign architects must be limited to consultancy. Their local counterpart must take the starring role, which means the local architects must get the credit for the project. Unlike what is happening today, wherein we get the dirty work - the contract documents, the working drawings, o even the design, aware that we know our culture better than them or more or less know what the Filipino clients want, how they want it done and be placed. But when everything is done, they put their names on it and get the credit. Much more, they get the big chunk of the deal through professional fees. Now, the real problem is that the local architects, when these foreign consultants are gone with their share, shoulder the burden of the accountability and liability of the project for 15 years.

What are the global trends? What's new in terms of design and building materials?

FERNANDEZ: Yung Post-Modernism. With modern architecture, you do away with non-essentials. No embellishments, no decorations. But some people, especially in the west, found this dehumanizing. So post-modernism brings back these elements which people can identify with, but not necessarily the essence. For example, an arch is a whole system where you put one block of stone over one block of stone and then you have the keystone. But this time, the arch is made of stainless steel.

Is there such a thing as post-modern Filipino architecture?

FERNANDEZ: There should be. I told Bobby Manosa, who for sometime was criticizing post-modernism, that what he was doing was actually following post-modernism principles. He would have a bangera inside the house, for example, ut it is made of stainless steel.

REYES: Contextualism and Biotecture are other trends where new designs on structure blend with the existing buildings … and with the environment. In Japan this is called Narchitecture which means designing with nature.

How is architecture affected by changes in demographics and lifestyle where, for example, you have younger successful people as clients, whose tastes would be different from clients in the past who had their money when they were a bit older? And how about future trends, as we approach the next millenium, like cocooning, people staying home, and so on?

REYES: Talking about lifestyle, we have more working wives and mothers today. With them staying at home in a limited time, we have smaller kitchens, which used to e their working area. This, however, is supplemented by kitchens for the househelp. With this and other changes related to demographics and lifestyle, we now focus on functional planing. People now are always on the move, so we check on how space can be best utilized and how spaces are interrelated to achieve maximum efficiency.

FERNANDEZ: Kailangan, more efficient. Noong araw, everybody wanted a piece of land. Ngayon gusto pa rin, pero hindi na puwede.

REYES: Also, maintenance. Some couples, even if they can afford their own single-detached structure, opt to stay in condominiums, because of the maintenance, and the security aspect, and proximity to work.

What can you say about the growing popularity of feng shui?

FERNANDEZ: I tell my students to study it very carefully, kasi hindi naman masamang sumunod. Ang masama kung hindi ka sumunod, hindi ka magkaka-project. Ibibigay sa iba. Kaya kahit hindi ka naniniwala, study it and apply it if the client asks for it. In my case, yung superstition, we have an aunt, lahat binibilangan niya ng oro, plata, mata. Hindi ka titigilan. Sabi ko, avoid mo na lang na magkaroon ka ng mata, kasi pagka umakyat ang bisita mo na tulad ng tiya ko, eh baka makapatay ka ng tao, malas talaga.

REYES: considering feng shui, some of its rules are I harmony with the basic rules of planning and architecture, but not all. For example, the arrangement of fixtures in the toilet, wherein the shower must be in the same piping wall with the lavatory and the water closet. Sometimes feng shui would dictate that the water closet should be facing the other two. Or some say that the doors should not directly face each other. Considering these, you would be needing additional space or you have to add more lines, which means additional cost to the project.

Can we pinpoint what exactly is Filipino architecture?

FERNANDEZ: I think I can, but there are people who refuse to see that it is Filipino. Architecture is Filipino if it addresses the physical, social and cultural realities, plus the aesthetic sense of the Filipino. Physical, if he considers that we are in the tropics and meron siyang provisions for shades, yung mga ganoon. Social, if he is very respectful of our traditions and ways as a people. If he is respectful of our cultural values, and our aesthetic sense, our sense of proportion, of scale, of drama, of color. Which I think again Lindy Locsin was very sensitive to. So here is Lindy Locsin using modern architectural language but al the way producing Filipino architecture because he was sensitive to all of these things.

REYES: It's so Asian. So if you are talking of the Filipino architecture, the structure itself, then I don't think we can really claim sole proprietorship. Although as Dean Fernandez has mentioned, there is a continuous evolution, and hopefully in the future, we can come up with something that is truly Filipino. Things that are presently intangible could be placed into more visually defined characteristics.

FERNANDEZ: Perhaps it's the root word. Most people look for the visual message. But why can we tell that a car or a camera is Japanese and not American or German? We only need the eyes to see and to accept what is Filipino in the things that we do. Let us be sensitive to this so that we can start saying na Pilipinong-Pilipino ang dating.

If there were just one important lesson that you wish your student would walk away with when he leaves school, what would that be?

FERNANDEZ: For me, the most important is perceptual sensitivity. Kasi, if the student is sensitive, his aesthetic sense would also be in place. He would be sensitive to the needs of people, to the way they think, and his sensitivity will allow him to respond. I think that is the basic given in an artist. Sensitivity.

REYES: I think in their practice of architecture, they should be able to be humanely responsive to the times and sustainable for future generations. It is also important that they adhere to the general code of ethics for architects.

[Countez]

Countez: I have a slight perception we were classmates...its your nick kasi so familliar. AR 5-2 2004.

Yup, we were classmates... hehehe! wag mo na lang sabihin real name ko.. ;)
what're your initials? para may idea ko kung sino ka sa 5-2... dami nating girls dun e, diba? San ka nagwork? Design or Construction firm? Construction ako... :)

[samantha_jones]

Developer firm ako. T.A ang initials ko. Some classmates call me by my nick starts with an R. I'm close to Abu (clue). I hope that gives you an idea...ay clue...I threw a party tapos sa group niyo si 1 lang punta.

[samantha_jones]

Developer firm ako. T.A ang initials ko. Some classmates call me by my nick starts with an R. I'm close to Abu (clue). I hope that gives you an idea...ay clue pa...I threw a party tapos sa group niyo si 1 lang punta. Diko masabi name niyo pero she's a fruit.

[Countez]

Developer firm ako. T.A ang initials ko. Some classmates call me by my nick starts with an R. I'm close to Abu (clue). I hope that gives you an idea...ay clue pa...I threw a party tapos sa group niyo si 1 lang punta. Diko masabi name niyo pero she's a fruit.

hahaha! I remember you... galing... i had a feeling kilala kita when i first saw your thread... :)

[zacharaiolsen]

I chose This University cuz it has the best Music School in South East Asia and one of the best in the Asia Pacific !!
The University of Santo Tomas Music Conservatory !!!

hello sa inyong lahat??? may ganyan ba sa Lasalle at Taenyo??

nakaka-awa yung mga nambabash sa uste, litaw na litaw ang paguugale at kokoteng pormado ng pinapasukan nilang unibersidad. lalo na yung mga taga peyups, state U pa naman kayo.. i pitty u guys, honestly.. pathetic.

[samantha_jones]

Countez: Galing mo naman! :D When are you taking the exam? As of now alam ko we have 2 classmates na architect na parehong naging president ng class yung isa nagresign siya. Kung meron pa diko na alam yun. Ei btw nabalitaan mo rin ba about our classmate who died? RIP sa kanya. Yun lang.

E kasi ba naman sabihin ba naman ng mga peeps na UST is fall back school. Well ofcourse hindi naman maalis na may mga students na fall back ang UST. Pero di naman lahat. Just pointing out na there are people who chose UST and hindi lang fall back or last resort. Oh well...people are entitled to their opinions, can you believe what trolls lurk in these forums. Low life talaga. :D Wala lang nakakaaliw. Well anyway...

On topic:
zach: uhmm pity is single t lang po ang oh yeah this thread is not for bashing (pero may nang babash parin). SO sana maiwasan natin and we can start by calling Ateneo, Ateneo and not Taenyo pero shempre kanya kanyang thing parin yan...

[Hisbenz]

Good for you Samantha but why missed the UP if you passed it –sayang naman.If you are telling the truth .

I studied at UST in the 1990 ‘s because my uncle graduated there as an architect in the 50’s. I failed in the usual good schools-UP,Ateneo,Mapua and La Salle. I will not recommend UST even to my kids. Amoy amag ang mga rooms at binabaha pa. Ang baho ng paligid at maraming muggers. Sa quality ng teachers-regretable- parang Iskul Bukol ang ibang faculty members. May paisaisang magaling but most are mediocre- saying ang bayad mo and time.Even the lab equipments are old at minsan ay di gumagana. Mas advance pa yata yung high school lab equipment naming. May mukhang pera pang faculty- pa terror kuno pero gustong lagay. I have to take my MS to another school to compensate my poor undergraduate studies at UST- nakakahiya pero they need to improve.

yawn again! when will you ever learn "atenean" :lol: ?

[Countez]

samantha_jones: January 2006 ako mag take... yeah i know about yung 2 architects sa class natin... punta na nga si president#1 sa states after his oath-taking on aug.20... wait... sino yung classmate natin na namatay? hindi ko ata alam yan ah... i saw a couple of our classmates 2 weeks ago, wala naman sila nasabi...

[Countez]

Hisbenz: i just found out "atenean" is not even in college yet... he just took the UPCAT last weekend... check out UPCAT2005 thread... poor kid... hindi sya mabubuhay sa college kung ganyan ugali nya...

[angrymapletree]

ngek. totoy pa pala yun.

Viva Santo Tomas!

[calvinpf]

buking? di na tuloy nag-post uli.. hahaha..

[calvinpf]

Bedans are silent in their achievement! Kudos to Bedan great Raul Roco! May your soul still haunt the halls of Law Library! Hahaha!

[bjep]

me here!

one of priorities then was UST... i didn't took the UPCAT.. mainly because tnamad ako...

but unfortunately i didn't end up studying at UST... ewan ko ba!

i'm in pLm now.. and having the best performance of my coLLege life!

[samantha_jones]

samantha_jones: January 2006 ako mag take... yeah i know about yung 2 architects sa class natin... punta na nga si president#1 sa states after his oath-taking on aug.20... wait... sino yung classmate natin na namatay? hindi ko ata alam yan ah... i saw a couple of our classmates 2 weeks ago, wala naman sila nasabi...

Uhmm...Carmel Cadiao ring a bell? (RIP) She died Black Saturday this year. Yung house nila nasunog and nakulong sila sa loob (her parents and her sis) They were survived by her older sis and bro and two younger bros.

[mark_mark]

Go UST and my co-Thomasian, make our school pride!!

[angrymapletree]

Make our school PROUD. ano ba.. :bop:

[mykel14]

:rotflmao:

[br0m0thymoLbLuE]

Thomasians, be proud. You are in a very good school

UP Fight!
Go USTe!

[samantha_jones]

:D Kakatawa!

[daaaaaga]

i voted for erap!
i voted for fpj!
mabuhay ang masang pilipino!

parang gaunun ang dating sakin nung thread :)

[boredtoday]

Go UST and my co-Thomasian, make our school pride!!
:mecry: :bop:

[kinda_nice_girl]

pasali lang..hehe ust is my only choice! i nver even bother to apply to any other school *okay*

[voltaire_mad]

Hisbenz: i just found out "atenean" is not even in college yet... he just took the UPCAT last weekend... check out UPCAT2005 thread... poor kid... hindi sya mabubuhay sa college kung ganyan ugali nya...

If this is true, well it makes sense on why his statements look immature. Imagine taking a swipe at Catholics in general in this forum. Geez, so young and yet so prejudiced. Or is it because he is still very young. I don't really know.

[jason_18]

me too. ust was my first choice because i believe that it offers the best pre med program in the country. and i think that it depends on the program that you are gonna take up in choosing a school.

[samantha_jones]

voltaire: Baka hes just really naive and ignorant hindi lang sa thread na to siya nagbabash ng catholics...sabi nga sa beatitudes...TEACH THE IGNORANT.

[hiber]

Go UST and my co-Thomasian, make our school pride!!


Haha.. You pathetic Thomasian. Your sentence structure is wrong.

[Tomasaiyan]

Haha.. You pathetic Thomasian. Your sentence structure is wrong.didn't you read that his account was hacked and he's not really a Thomasian?

:turncat:

[ANO PAKE MO?]

im a senior student right now... tomorrow(sept.18) is my examination day for UST. its my first choice... pero gusto ko ren makapasa sa UP para makatipid. pero UST lang **** last hope ko.. sana maka pasa ako. kasi UPCAT at USTET pa lang ako kumuha ng form eh... pag hindi ako nakapasa sa UST magpapakamatay ako... joke..


pero dipende kasi sa tao yan eh... meron **** ayaw sa UST... depende sa course pati yung location..

[samantha_jones]

Goodluck dude!!!

[principalia]

No offense but UST was never my choice. It was Ateneo or La Salle for me. Maybe it's because my interests don't lean towards Archi/Fine Arts/Med--courses wherein UST is really famous for. If I wanted to take up a pre med course, then UST would also be a top choice for me. I wanted a business/AB course kasi eh.

[ekonomista]

it was either UP or i would study abroad...
i took the ACET, and the exams in DLSU and UST, but that's just to prove that i would pass all of them..haha :rotflmao:

[cheesecakequeen]

Samatha passed the UPCAT and chosed UST (Ang Pamantasan ni mang Thomas).- Bolahin mo ang ........mong panot . Your ant brain will believe this. :rotflmao:
Ang Pamantasan ni Mang Thomas (UST) is the first choice of the best incoming freshman in the country. After 400 years has evolve as a mediocre or the best na nga university in the country. Wala yatang bibili niyan.You are behind the big three UP, Ateneo and DLSU. Masakit pero that is the fact for now. Humabol kayo if you want recognition. For now Mang Thomas is still the
fallback choice. :D


chosed? WTF. yabang yabang, basic grammar lang di pa marungong :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

ON TOPIC:
depende naman kung anong course ang balak mong kunin. di naman sa lahat ng course nage-excel ang 1 university

[crusader1]

Samatha passed the UPCAT and chosed UST (Ang Pamantasan ni mang Thomas).- Bolahin mo ang ........mong panot . Your ant brain will believe this. :rotflmao:
Ang Pamantasan ni Mang Thomas (UST) is the first choice of the best incoming freshman in the country. After 400 years has evolve as a mediocre or the best na nga university in the country. Wala yatang bibili niyan.You are behind the big three UP, Ateneo and DLSU. Masakit pero that is the fact for now. Humabol kayo if you want recognition. For now Mang Thomas is still the
fallback choice. :D

Really? Let's see where these supposedly "big three" would be in a hundred years? UST has seen and weathered many storms in its almost 400 years of history. That is a testimony to its resiliency and stability.

Intelligent people do not necessarily choose to go to UP and UP cannot lay claim that is has a monopoly of the brilliant minds in our nation. Board exam results will prove this.

Different people make individual choices regarding which school to go to according to their perception of things, peer or family pressure, human respect, public opinion, economic realities etc. I come from a family of Thomasians who value Catholic formation and education so I chose to go to UST and never regretted it.

[samantha_jones]

^^Amen to that.

It's a choice, you cant judge a person by choosing to go to UST when most people who passed UP would go to UP.

And it also depends which course you plan to take.

[MonkeyOnTheLoos]

Jeez. Its all about what course to take. I think UST is good in arts,etc. No offense nalang pero La Salle right now is like a mediocre, in the middle, pa porma school. At least UST is well known for something. Dont get me wrong ha, I have a lot of friends from La Salle but Ive never been impressed. Unlike the guys Ive met in UST, theyr humble but man, theyr talented. esp archi.

[gobbledygook]

^^^trying to make his/her school look good by bashing others..Nice try...but it aint gonna work..

[limeshaded]

SAbi ng mga taga UP : "im sure kung nagtake ka ng UPCAT at pumasa ka, cgurado UP ka"...

hindi naman ***** lahat, i did not study in UP dahil ayaw ng parents ko, i did not even take UPCAT kasi its just a waste of time.
La Salle, i haven't thought of lasalle becuz i wanted to take up engineering that time, kala ko sa business lang *** magaling, but then if i knew that their ChE was the only CoE in P.I., ***** naglasalle ako..
Ateneo, i din't consider this school also....i never heard na magaling sila sa mga Sciences at Engineering.

[banannarama]

if a person has the capability of insulting other schools just to lift their school pride, i call that shameful and degrading.

good luck to them. i hope this realization hits them one day.



btw, this is for the earlier posts with those narrow minded posters. *peace*

[samantha_jones]

Monkey: Yey, arki grad here! :D

[caryatid_kitten]

samantha, anong section at batch ka? :)

[NCPAGer]

UST was my first choice but my parents' choice prevailed--Unibersidad. At first I was so down kasi most of my friends took their first year in UST pero nang tumagal, i realized that my parents were right after all. It's so cool to be a UPian. My friends eventually transferred to either u.p. or ateneo

[sue_mo!]

^^ what weird friends you have there.

[iceflavah]

^^ what weird friends you have there.


onga. bihira na mga taong gnun ngayon. true and humble. simple lang.:D
walang hangin sa ulo. importante may nalalaman at nkatuntong parn sa lupa paggrad.
hehe.. peace. :D

[samantha_jones]

caryatid: AR 5-2 Batch 1999 Class of 2004. :D pero I graduated with 2005 kasi kasi basta...wrong decisions made...blech. Anyway considering culinary arts right now...after 5 longs years astig diba? :D

[caryatid_kitten]

samantha: classmate mo sina Steph (UST singers) and that tiny girl with the great voice (forgot her name :P) :P

nakadisillution talaga architecture dito sa pilipinas. Grabe. I want to teach sa UST-Arki though, at least that's a venue for me to remain idealistic in spite of the sad state of the architecture profession :P bwahahah

while you're young, try everything! :D

[meg_gurl]

It really depends on the program that you'd want to take. UST was also my first choice. I took the UPCAT, ACET and the entrance exams at DLSU and passed all of them. Now I am a Third Year Biology student in UST. No regrets. :)

[arki_16]

ako naman.. incoming freshman...

First choice ko talaga UP... Second is Mapua...

UST... ok naman...

[HARE]

me too UST..absolutely no regrets...


Napakalawak ng mundong ipinakita sakin ng UST. Dahil dito naging malawak ang aking pag-iisip...

Sa aking palagay, kung ako'y nag-aral sa iba pang mas "prestihiyosong" pamantasan, lalo lang akong naging...

"Ambitious-conceited-pig" hehe, yan kasi tawag sakin ng kuya ko pag naglolokohan kami!hehe

The student body..wow!
Promise! I'm never gonna be this good person if not for my UST education...

Proud to be Thomasian here!

[survivor_]

my first choice is UST. (archi)
and then, UP (archi).

i took the USTET yesterday. akala ko may talent test ang archi! tapos nalungkot ako, wala. CFAD courses lang nagdrawing. wah, in lieu of the archi talent test, we had the space relations/spatial reasoning (?) test na medyo may shinot-gut ako.

hay. :( i wanna go to USTe.

[tristful]

In high school, I only took two exams:

UP
UST

I did not pass UP.
Can't take it at first. But eventually, it wasn't a big deal.

I passed UST - Communication Arts.
I was pleased by the results. I thought to myself - I will enroll in UST for the coming school year.

Then, my father gained full access to my life and wanted me to take more exams. He wanted me to take DLSU and Ateneo. I just took DLSU, hindi na Ateneo (sayang sa pera kung maraming entrance exam). Luckily(?), I took the test and was one of the last batches who took the exam (a "pahabol" DLSU entrance exam).

I passed DLSU - Business Management.

My first choice was UST because I wanted to shift eventually to a music course and take basics from Communication Arts. However, my father influenced (actually, persuaded) me to take DLSU. Since I'm the eldest child and I was not so much in control of my fate, I took my father's suggestion. It was an intense juggle between UST and DLSU - but I opted to follow my father because I always thought he wants everything for my own good.

Here I am, a DLSU alumnus. Well, I was happy with my experience in college - I even think mas naging happy ako in college than in high school. I always look back - ano kaya kung nag-UST ako? Well, really can't tell. But I think it would be a totally different experience. And I think I'd be more passionate about music right now.

[amoundici]

In high school, I only took two exams:

UP
UST

I did not pass UP.
Can't take it at first. But eventually, it wasn't a big deal.

I passed UST - Communication Arts.
I was pleased by the results. I thought to myself - I will enroll in UST for the coming school year.

Then, my father gained full access to my life and wanted me to take more exams. He wanted me to take DLSU and Ateneo. I just took DLSU, hindi na Ateneo (sayang sa pera kung maraming entrance exam). Luckily(?), I took the test and was one of the last batches who took the exam (a "pahabol" DLSU entrance exam).

I passed DLSU - Business Management.

My first choice was UST because I wanted to shift eventually to a music course and take basics from Communication Arts. However, my father influenced (actually, persuaded) me to take DLSU. Since I'm the eldest child and I was not so much in control of my fate, I took my father's suggestion. It was an intense juggle between UST and DLSU - but I opted to follow my father because I always thought he wants everything for my own good.

Here I am, a DLSU alumnus. Well, I was happy with my experience in college - I even think mas naging happy ako in college than in high school. I always look back - ano kaya kung nag-UST ako? Well, really can't tell. But I think it would be a totally different experience. And I think I'd be more passionate about music right now.

you know this thread just made me realize something..

UST is for people with passion.

:redsmile:

[tristful]

In high school, I only took two exams:

UP
UST

I did not pass UP.
Can't take it at first. But eventually, it wasn't a big deal.

I passed UST - Communication Arts.
I was pleased by the results. I thought to myself - I will enroll in UST for the coming school year.

Then, my father gained full access to my life and wanted me to take more exams. He wanted me to take DLSU and Ateneo. I just took DLSU, hindi na Ateneo (sayang sa pera kung maraming entrance exam). Luckily(?), I took the test and was one of the last batches who took the exam (a "pahabol" DLSU entrance exam).

I passed DLSU - Business Management.

My first choice was UST because I wanted to shift eventually to a music course and take basics from Communication Arts. However, my father influenced (actually, persuaded) me to take DLSU. Since I'm the eldest child and I was not so much in control of my fate, I took my father's suggestion. It was an intense juggle between UST and DLSU - but I opted to follow my father because I always thought he wants everything for my own good.

Here I am, a DLSU alumnus. Well, I was happy with my experience in college - I even think mas naging happy ako in college than in high school. I always look back - ano kaya kung nag-UST ako? Well, really can't tell. But I think it would be a totally different experience. And I think I'd be more passionate about music right now.
you know this thread just made me realize something..

UST is for people with passion.

:redsmile:

I guess you might be right. I know someone from AA (a theater org in the College of Arts and Letters). Their motto is "AA. Passion Abbreviated." Just shows that being passionate about what you do is recognized as an important and meaningful value in UST.

[reality_STRUCKS]

you know this thread just made me realize something..

UST is for people with passion.

:redsmile:

Not only passion...

We, Thomasians, make our school pride!

[sue_mo!]

ahihihihihihi

[encanto]

I guess you might be right. I know someone from AA (a theater org in the College of Arts and Letters). Their motto is "AA. Passion Abbreviated." Just shows that being passionate about what you do is recognized as an important and meaningful value in UST.

Hehe... Nag-AA ako. Yeah! Tama ka doon! PUSO! Laking pasasalamat ko at nag-aral ako sa USTe at nakilala ko ang mga taong nag-uumapaw sa passion sa ginagawa nila. It's almost something spiritual. Basta, ang hirap i-explain. Ibang klase. And mind you, ang mga taong tinutukoy ko ay marunong lumingon sa pinanggalingan nila kahit sobrang successful na sila. Nakatapak pa rin sa lupa ang paa. Definitely, DEFINITELY NO REGRETS. Pakshet, naiiyak na ako...

[encanto]

By the way, tristful, it's not "college" but "faculty of arts and letters."

[reality_STRUCKS]

UST was my first choice for two reasons: it is not only the best, it is also the oldest!

love ko USTe

[tristful]

By the way, tristful, it's not "college" but "faculty of arts and letters."

Forgive my unawareness - will take note next time.

[encanto]

^^^ It's okay. No problem. =)

[donnerwetter]

i only took two college entrance tests: the acet and the upcat. i thankfully passed both. i ended up studying in ateneo because my parents (especially my dad) wanted me to study there and also cuz i've been there most of my life and, well, it has a more sheltered atmosphere compared to up. ust or la salle weren't really in my choices, not that they're not good schools, but simply because of proximity: i live east of manila and going to school in manila would have involved daily traffic struggles.

looking back, i would have wanted to study in up because of the greater sense of independence it might have given me (for one thing, the school's student population is very much mixed, not at all as homogenous as compared to ateneo's). i guess i would have also wanted to try out ust, especially their visual arts courses, and might have even found studying there appealing, more so as it would have involved me coping with a very different environment (both within the school and outside [manila]). (plus, i just love old buildings)

oh well, no point in regretting, really. mysteries will always be mysteries and dwelling on them won't really get you anywhere. besides, i ended up being happy with my stay in ateneo anyway. still, i guess i'd just like to stress that when people state their top choices for schools, a lot of things factor in like proximity, parental influence (especially if most of the family's from a different school), and is not just their perception of the school's acedemic standards, etc.

[Lawin_123000]

kung hindi ka makapasa sa FEU, DLSU, NU, TUP, CEU o Adamson, ust ang first choice mo. for real. :)

[br0m0thymoLbLuE]

^^^ and kung hindi pa rin, the liberal arts school in katipunan is the best choice ;)

[samantha_jones]

samantha: classmate mo sina Steph (UST singers) and that tiny girl with the great voice (forgot her name :P) :P

nakadisillution talaga architecture dito sa pilipinas. Grabe. I want to teach sa UST-Arki though, at least that's a venue for me to remain idealistic in spite of the sad state of the architecture profession :P bwahahah

while you're young, try everything! :D

Yes...steph was my classmate and tiny girl with great voice ala karen carpenter is my best friend. Haha. :D She into jewelry designing now.

I know I'm breaking out and having sleepless nights over it. Culinary or Architecture. :D

[samantha_jones]

I like the post about UST is a school for people with passion.

Maybe someday I can be one of them.

[Lawin_123000]

ask the students of FEATI, DLSU, Matute, TIP, Benilde and Enverga. Their usual first choice is ust. :)

[reality_STRUCKS]

I like the post about UST is a school for people with passion.

Maybe someday I can be one of them.

we are not only known for our passionateness. Thomasians also always make our school pride.

[samantha_jones]

^^Thomasians also always make our school PROUD. Ano ba yan. Mind your tenses.

And my word ba na passionateness? Check Mr. Webster.

I'm from UST too so you didn't have to rub it in. Thanks! :D

[caryatid_kitten]

Yes...steph was my classmate and tiny girl with great voice ala karen carpenter is my best friend. Haha. :D She into jewelry designing now.

I know I'm breaking out and having sleepless nights over it. Culinary or Architecture. :D


I think we were classmates around once or twice :D Hahahah.

Anyway, try culinary while you haven't taken the boards yet :P Hahaha. Since you have a BS Archi diploma, I guess it's pretty easy to go back into the field once it's better (when oh when...300 years?!)

[samantha_jones]

^^Yeah am enrolling na nga on Monday. :D Actually I wont abandon archi altogether I have several projects under my belt and one I was actually already paid half for. Hehe. :D Excited ako bumalik sa school.

By the way how did you know of tiny girl with great voice? I know steph got delayed for a year. Anyway aling batch ka? Do you know Poco? He here at ALI. :D

[caryatid_kitten]

^the tiny girl with the great voice sang once for humanities class (if I remember correctly)...so slow pa nga ata eh. :D I'm just a batch ahead of you.

You're with ALI?! Galing ha. Wala akong ka-batch diyan sa ALI mismo. LPHI, meron. :P

[samantha_jones]

Aha!!! Kayo yung 5-2 nuon!!! Grrrr. Hehe

Water under the bridge now...

[caryatid_kitten]

^singit lang ako dun :) Irreg ako! :P LOL!

bakit ano ginawa nila sa iyo?! :) hehehe.

[encanto]

^^Thomasians also always make our school PROUD. Ano ba yan. Mind your tenses.

And my word ba na passionateness? Check Mr. Webster.

I'm from UST too so you didn't have to rub it in. Thanks! :D

Just don't mind the poster, samantha_jones. I think he's just playing around.

Sagutin ko lang 'yung tanong mo. Walang magawa, eh.

As far as I know, technically you can add "-ness" to any adjective to make it a noun except for those that have established noun forms. Timpla-timpla lang. Minsan kahit tama technically 'di naman maganda sa pandinig, kaya you need to look for a better word na lang.

'Ayun lang! =) :smoke:

[reality_STRUCKS]

Just don't mind the poster, samantha_jones. I think he's just playing around.

Sagutin ko lang 'yung tanong mo. Walang magawa, eh.

As far as I know, technically you can add "-ness" to any adjective to make it a noun except for those that have established noun forms. Timpla-timpla lang. Minsan kahit tama technically 'di naman maganda sa pandinig, kaya you need to look for a better word na lang.

'Ayun lang! =) :smoke:

correct! like cuteness, tallness, politeness, honestness, loyalness, simpleness and many many more.

viva UST.

[samantha_jones]

cary: Naku wag na baka ka-group pa kita nun hehe. Anyway I will never forget that class dahil na din sa nude photography talk with nude models! Hehe first time ko makakita ng mga hubad sa harap ko! :D

encanto: Actually habit ko lang talaga. Kahit sa mga sulat sakin ng exes ko or friends pag may wrong grammar sinusulat ko talaga siya in red pen tapo binabalik ko. Hehe

[paenggoy]

Is it true that UST has an average class size of forty for gen. ed. classes and that the teaching load is ten classes a term?

[meanmachine]

^nope. it isnt. when i was in first year, there's just 42 of us in class and by the time that we were already in fourth year, we were only 35. the same goes w/ the other sections in my college.

[zacharaiolsen]

Hehe... Nag-AA ako. Yeah! Tama ka doon! PUSO! Laking pasasalamat ko at nag-aral ako sa USTe at nakilala ko ang mga taong nag-uumapaw sa passion sa ginagawa nila. It's almost something spiritual. Basta, ang hirap i-explain. Ibang klase. And mind you, ang mga taong tinutukoy ko ay marunong lumingon sa pinanggalingan nila kahit sobrang successful na sila. Nakatapak pa rin sa lupa ang paa. Definitely, DEFINITELY NO REGRETS. Pakshet, naiiyak na ako...


lalo na ko! sobrang sarap maging thomasian!! pano pa kaya kaming mga music majors, passion + talent = sarap mag-aral !... hindi yung "yun ang course mo dahil yun ang ipinasa mo.." at pag graduate mo ok nga ang school di ka naman determinado magwork, malungkot pa ang buhay!

dito mga tunay na tao makakasalamuha mo, hindi plastik ! lahat astig makisama, walang kaek-ekan sa katawan .. pati mga prof malufet pero sobrang cool kahit yung iba mga lola na. hindi lang utak ang hinuhulma, pati puso at personalidad .

haayy... ang buhay tomasino ay kay saya !!! --> studying here is one of the best decisions i have ever made .... you wont feel it if you havent experienced to be one! *okay*

[Hisbenz]

^^ i feel the same, siguro like other people studying other univ naman. they'll say,no regrets of studying in their school. But for me its a different feeling, i don't know, sobrang passionate kasi ng mga tao dun, lahat may sense kausap, lahat ng tao may ibubuga. not to sell hard my school but its just me. im sure other schools feel the same.

[samantha_jones]

Nako wala akong alam sa passion na yan...hehe sorry! Basta alam ko lang nuon magaling UST sa archi...kaya dapat dun ako makapagaral! Hehe. Pero ngayon naghahanap nako ng passion sana magkita na kami hehe.

[sunpower]

"passion in what you're doing"...yeah this is what keeps us going in whatever endevour we are in...a very praise-worthy virtue.

[samantha_jones]

Wow this thread is alive!!!

Sorry nagdecide si Mr Passion na mas gusto kong magluto. :D

I am now in ISCAHM. :D

[Coke-aholic]

student_01's first choice isn't UST. but he's in UST. weird. ahihihi

[flsfnoeraekadad]

I was also supposed to go to UST -- the way my mom and dad wanted me back then. But I really wanted to go to La Salle. An embattled me debated with my mom and dad just for them to turn tables around. And now I'm happier than ever. It's just bad that I can't get to taste that buhay Tomasino -- just because I wanted another life in college -- the one that bears the color of green and white.

[samantha_jones]

Hey thats okay. I'm wearing blue and white and it's not because I'm studying at Ateneo. Nyahahaha. It's just our colors are also blue and white. :D But still a thomasian here...somewhere.

Still proud of having finished Architecture at UST.

[[JZ] Nightmare]

ah, i miss the good old college days

walking around lovers lane and eating at almer's ^_^

[samantha_jones]

^I miss almers too...

Wala di na ako nakakain ng ganun food ngayon..gourmet sh*t. Culinary Arts kasi hehe. Masaya lang pag asian menu.

[babavoom]

like ko din ang uste, though third chose ko lang s'ya.

UP
DLSU
UST

i failed the UPCAT, passed my second choice in UST, pero i passed my first choice in LA SALLE. I'm happy were i am now.

AnImO!

[cutieplx16]

Ows.. sure ka?? eh bat yung classmate ko nung high school?? He took both DLSUCET and USTET at iisa ang choice nya hah.. Unfortunately, he didn't pass UST pero pumasa siya sa La Salle!!! PURO NASA LINE OF 7 PA ANG GRADE NYA HA!!!

she claimed ba naman na hindi niya care ang UPCAT, hello, out of 60,000 applicants only 3,000 lang ang nakakapasa sa UPCAT, piliin ba naman ang UST, oh well, siguro poor lang si samantha coz if not kukuha rin siya sa Ateneo at DLSU, alam naman po nating lahat na bagsakan ang UST ng flunkers ng UP, ADMU at DLSU, wag idenay at baka tamaan ng kidlat :mecry:

[Coke-aholic]

galet ata.. na offend ang kanyang school ahihihihi.student_01 the pride of UST ... viva ust!

[rx_Tomasino]

di nga nya ma prove na thomasian sya eh. :glee:

I love my school, I love UST;)

[Coke-aholic]

ah basta... thomasian siya.

[grapes_of_]

when i was little, my parents always threatened to send me to ust if i did not finish my food.

kaya ako medyo tumaba e.

[Cyberspace_law]

^your mom is so creepy. like daughter like mother? or should i say like son slash daughter, like mother.:lol:

[alex010101]

UST was my choice before, pero buti na lang hindi.not that im underestimating USt. Actually, its the other way around, UST is too good for me. I mean, UST na yata ang may pinakatight na sked at kailangang magsipag talaga. E, di ko kaya un. Hehe..

UST is a good school, compared to UP, DLSU and Ateneo, bihira lang ang criticisms sa UST.

UP was my choice, first choice actually. Kaya lang, di kinaya, UP baguio lang ako pumasa. E, di ako handang mamundok, hehe..kaya ibang school na lang. 2nd yr na ko and im planning to transfer to DLSU next term, prob. by September. Kaya i'm preparing my credentials na.

Di kasi ako nakapagtake ng La Salle dati, pati sa Ateneo. Though di ko gusto Ateneo, masyadong academic. Hehe..

[samantha_jones]

:lol: Ahh so ayan pala ang bagsakan ng mga hindi daw nakapasa sa DLSU, UP at ADMU. Nakapasa sa DLSU pero, second choice passer lang sa UST?

Okay lang.

[rx_Tomasino]

So as they say... yaan na natin sila. Basta ako masaya ako nasa USTe ako. ;)

[grapes_of_]

^your mom is so creepy.

in a way, yes.

you see, being a thomasian is a fate i will never wish upon even my fiercest enemies.

[Fortune2]

di ako nag entrance exam sa UST

[grapes_of_]

^^ why naman?

[Coke-aholic]

2 lang naman ang major possible reasons e

1. alam na babagsak siya.
2. ayaw talaga UST.

so siguro lahat ng mga tao, yung 2nd reason ang pinipili. ahihihiih