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rain_10127

Jun 27, 2005, 12:51 PM

Ok, guys, I need help…I’ll buy a laptop in a week or so…I’ll be using AutoCAD (at photoshop na ein )software most of the time since I’m an architecture student…I need a budget-friendly laptop…at least P60000 (P70k is a bit tolerable)…questions… 1) enough na ba ang 40Gb? 1.6 Ghz? 256Mb? Medyo nalilito na ako sa pagpili…they say pentium m is really good when it comes to performance...all I need is a laptop that’ll meet all my needs (should at least have a wi-fi, dvd combo drive/combo drive, 6/8cell li-ion++)…I’m not into gaming…screen doesn’t matter that much, although I’d prefer a wide screen like 15"4…so there…I need urgent answers…btw, I’ll buy a laptop dito sa Pinas (which sucks, btw)…HELP!

rain_10127

Jun 27, 2005, 12:53 PM

http://www.pccorner.com.ph/controller.forward?action=sonoma

how about this? reviews anyone?

topnotch97

Jun 27, 2005, 12:59 PM

looks fine. processor is intel or amd? you might wanna consider add memory from 256 mb to either 512mb or better yet 1 gig. trust me. when you run CAD or even engineering softwares, they eat a lot of RAM and processor power.

all of the specs is okay as for as i can see. base from your needs of course.

so you're mobile? meaning on the go? masyadong mabigat ata yan. :D

0110|1001

Jun 27, 2005, 01:04 PM

rain_10127

Jun 27, 2005, 02:54 PM

i dunno...not sure tho..di ba maganda ang amd?wait...so you guys mean na dapat ram na lang ang malaki?di ba makakatulong kung malaki din ang Gb ng laptop?i saw a notebook sa pc corner na 1gig ang ram pero 40Gb.ok lang ba yung ganun?yeah.mabigat nga.medyo on the go ako kasi weekends umuuwi ako sa amin..but if you recommend a better alternative (say ok na specs pero mas magaan), then please do...what shall be my specs talaga?is it really ok kung 40Gb lang as long as 512 or more ang ram??

thanx in advance!

0110|1001

Jun 27, 2005, 04:53 PM

yup ok lang kung 40Gb lang ang HD mo.. less than 250Mb ata ang Autocad and photoshop combined. Ang AMD kasi mataas ang heatloast nya. madaling uminit kung baga... kaya as much as possible kapag laptop/notebook dapa Intel Centrino ang processor mo. Isa pa halos lahat ng Peripherals/IO devices nya ay built-in.. kaya mahirap i upgrade ang laptop. Ok lang 40GB basta mataas ang RAM mo... ask mo rin kung ang HD mo ay 7200rpm.. yan kasi ang speed ng ikot ng harddisk. wag kang kumuha ng 5400rpm. ang specs mo dapat na iprioritize ay:

Processor: 1.6 Ghz or higher (Intel Centrino)
Memory Module: DDR 256 or higher
Hard Disk - 40GB basta 7200rpm

0110|1001

Jun 27, 2005, 04:57 PM

isipin mo pre. pang matagalan na gamit... at hindi pumapalya kasi mahirap i-upgrade ang laptop. as much as possible talaga Centrino gamitin mo para mababa lang ang heatloss(kindly correct my other post here.. mali spelling, dapat heatloss) :D ;) isipin mo na lang madaling umiinit din ang hardisk kapag laging nagbabasa or nagsusulat, taz dadag-dagan mo pa ng heatloss ng processor. pangit naman mag worry ka na mainit notebook mo unless na lang nasa aircon ka palagi. hehehe. precautionary measures lang.

topnotch97

Jun 27, 2005, 05:01 PM

yeah, i've always have problems with memory. i've had it upgrade it because hindi kaya ng laptop ko ang multi-tasking.

is it just me? or is that dumarami na ata ang mga laptop users?!?

kasi napapansin ko dumarami ang threads na tungkol sa laptops. this is like the 10nth thread regarding laptops. atsaka ang daming thread diyaan na hindi na sine-search ng mga pex users.

i think we need to merge the threads. those threads have more tips on how to buy a laptop.

word of advice.... think of a laptop as a Tool...not something for pogi points. sige ka, baka dumami ang mga scratches, gaya nung sabi ng isang thread.

0110|1001

Jun 27, 2005, 05:08 PM

heeh ako i had a laptop once.... kaso nasira and d ko na mapaayos.. mobile kasi ang laptop. and u can chat while you're inside a cr... pooping. lol

shiftbackspace

Jun 27, 2005, 07:00 PM

i haven't seen a laptop (at least sa comp shops dito sa pinas) na may AMD proc. saan meron? kung meron man.

the model you have posted (link) looks fine. but if you could add more RAM, it would be better. i'm just not sure sa after-sales support ng model.

bludwid

Jun 27, 2005, 07:28 PM

For autoCAD and PhotoShop/DTP apps, always prioritize RAM. I don't think there will be much of a difference with processor brand, although get a higher-end one. AMD or Intel? Frankly, I don't think there's going to be much of a performance difference. 40Gb should be enough. If it's mainly for application purposes, you don't really need too much HD space.

I'd recommend 512 Mb, though. Trust me, you'll get away with a 60k laptop... I've seen guys run 3D Studio and Autocad on 512Mb and 1.x Celerons, and they're fine...

1.6Ghz? That's fine. That era when 486xx - pentium processors struggled with AutoCAD rendering is long gone. In fact, you'll even get away with Celeron nowadays, as long as you don't run resource-hungry progs simultaneously....

rain_10127

Jun 27, 2005, 07:42 PM

whoa!thanks a lot...at least natama na yung perception ko na bigger hard disk=better,di rin pala...yeah...i'll focus on the ram. i actually found a notebook na 1gb tapos 40..salamat talaga.yeah,dapat i-merge ang mga thread..i've found some pero di rin nasagot yung iba kong tanong.pero kung meh oras kayo,then please do merge...and no, it's not for porma...i don't live in our house anymore..di naman makatarungan na dalhin ko ang buong computer ko kung bagong titirhan ko dahil nakikitira lang ako (isa pa,idadagdag pa nila sa bayad ko sa kuryente)...salamat talaga...

keep it coming =)

eto yung nakita ko na may 1gb..ok na ba yan?

rain_10127

Jun 27, 2005, 07:46 PM

rain_10127

Jun 27, 2005, 07:50 PM

ay mali ako...ang ibig kong sabihin, di naman makatarungan na dalhin ko yung buong pc ko sa bago kong titirhan...makikitira lang kasi ako..sisikip kasi kuwarto ko dahil sa pc

shiftbackspace

Jun 27, 2005, 08:00 PM

eto pala yung link...
http://www.pccorner.com.ph/products.do?action=showproductdetail&categoryid=106&productid=2405

nga pala,importante pa ba ngayon ang brand?

eh kung sakaling 256 or 512 lang ang ram ng bibilhin kong notebook, di ba pwedeng ipa-upgrade na lang?bakit nagiging mahirap?IMO, it's still wise to consider the brand of the item, lalo na sa gadgets. because it will give you an idea of the quality of the item. also, sa branded ones, you will have a better after-sales support, as opposed to the generic ones. if you feel confident sa two factors na yun sa model na kukunin mo, then go :)

hindi ko sure kung bakit naging mahirap yung pagpapa-upgrade ng RAM ng laptop. for instance, sa case ko, since nag-short ako sa budget when i bought my laptop, ipon na lang muna ako then bili ng 512 for the other available slot.

bludwid

Jun 27, 2005, 08:23 PM

Know what? My sentiments exactly... Perfect example is the HP laptop I have...

A couple of weeks back, I spilled coffee on my laptop keyboard. Normally this wouldn't be covered by warranty. I posted it to HP anyway, and guess what? They replaced the keyboard-no questions asked. I guess, since they're a big company, they'd end up losing more money trying to investigate why the keyboard broke down ie they'll have to have somebody chasing me up, etc... I doubt any smaller company would have just let that go. They'll find ways to get out of the warranty...

that's just one of the perks. Of course you'll be paying extra cash by buying a branded laptop. But trust me, and I've been through dozens of laptops, it's well worth the price difference, man... Especially when we're talking about laptops. Kung PC, parts are easily replaceable... Laptops are another thing... One power surge and that's it...

rain_10127

Jun 27, 2005, 08:31 PM

salamat..on a tight budget kasi kaya nagkakaganito ako hehe

dogi

Jun 27, 2005, 08:46 PM

Note: Memory and harddrives are easy to upgrade (as long as you have additional slot for the memory)

So If I were to choose now, I will get a laptop with higher processor. Maybe a 2Ghz or more and better videocard.

Dothan based pentium m have 2MB L2 cache, Banias have 1mb L2 cache. If you want performance, get a DTR processor (AMD or Intel) and an aluminum laptop cooler.

bludwid

Jun 27, 2005, 08:50 PM

dogi

Jun 27, 2005, 08:50 PM

well kung autocad lang at photshop.... i think you should increase its memory kasi medyo matagal kapag mag rerender ka ng complex object sa autocad. buy a laptop with pentium Centrino processor. kasi halatang matagal ang trabaho mo nyan. Centrino provides a minimal heatlost kaya d gaano mag iinit laptop mo kapag matagal mo ginagamit.

You mean a pentium m processor? Intel centrino is a technology, a combination of pentium m, intel wireless card, etc. Because you can get a pentium m with other brand of wireless card (cheaper) and that is not centrino.

bludwid

Jun 27, 2005, 08:52 PM

Yep, he meant Pentium M...:)

dogi

Jun 27, 2005, 08:55 PM

I understand. I'm just asking you to look at what the small print says in terms of after-sales support. Do they have a website where you can easily download drivers? Do they have a good tech support site/ easily accessed contact number? Is it an on-site warranty, or do you have to pay to send the laptop to them should anything happen? As they say, warranty is half the price of the machine already...

The machine itself is good spec for the price, but it's always best to be sure. 60k is still a lot of money.

bludwid is right, waranty is important. Most retailer offer 1 year limited warranty for parts and labor. You can buy extended warranty later. With branded laptops, sometime if you're lucky you can ask for replacement after the warranty expires :)

rain_10127

Jun 27, 2005, 09:28 PM

hmm..ok medyo naliliwanagan na ako...maraming salamat...since ala akong time masyado na magti-tingin sa mga comp shops, sa mga website ako naghahanap like sa pccorner,pcmadness,pcexpress,complink...meron pa ba?

shiftbackspace

Jun 27, 2005, 09:40 PM

rain_10127

Jun 27, 2005, 10:50 PM

ok ba prestigio? eh ang amd sempron na processor?

dogi

Jun 27, 2005, 11:07 PM

0110|1001

Jun 28, 2005, 09:38 AM

You mean a pentium m processor? Intel centrino is a technology, a combination of pentium m, intel wireless card, etc. Because you can get a pentium m with other brand of wireless card (cheaper) and that is not centrino.

hehehe sorry about that... i should have said Intel Centrino technology.... medyo mahaba i-type. Pentium is very much common to use especially for some newbies... and Centrino lang mostly nakalagay na label sa laptop.. i just said those para if ever makita nila yung label na yung pentium/ centrino... alam kaagad nila na yun na yun. ciao. tnx na lang sa comments... hehehe :D

rain_10127

Jun 28, 2005, 11:08 AM

dogi

Jun 28, 2005, 12:18 PM

hehehe sorry about that... i should have said Intel Centrino technology.... medyo mahaba i-type. Pentium is very much common to use especially for some newbies... and Centrino lang mostly nakalagay na label sa laptop.. i just said those para if ever makita nila yung label na yung pentium/ centrino... alam kaagad nila na yun na yun. ciao. tnx na lang sa comments... hehehe :D
no problem :)

dogi

Jun 28, 2005, 12:23 PM

maraming salamat sa mga response nyo..pwede bang magtanong pa...alam nyo ba yung brand na phoenix?at saka pano di ba di naman ibig sabihin na may centrino eh ibig sabihin may wi-fi na?eh pano nga ba malalaman kung may wi-fi ang laptop na bibilhin ko
pag centrino technology may built-in intel wireless card na yun. Isang requirement yun para matawag na centrino technology. Pano mo malalaman kung may wireless card? Simply check the specs. Katulad dun sa 2nd post. Yung specs merong Wireless: Intel® PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Network Connection

topnotch97

Jun 28, 2005, 02:07 PM

majority of laptops nowadays have built-in wifi port.

just like dogi said, just check the specs if it says anything about WiFi. If not, ask the dealer if the laptop you're purchasing comes with the built-in wifi.

and by the way, since you'll be working on .dwg (cad files) files, you might need to transfer your files to other systems. so it is a good idea to have a thumb drive. why? CAD files tend to be big, especially the amount of work later on. besides, most laptops don't have floppy drives, so you might wanna try to get thumb drives. thumb drives are convenient for people who do a lot of work just like CAD users. that's my typical advice to people that ask me whenever there's a laptop sale from Fry's or CompUSA, and their requirements are for like power hungry cad users. :D

rain_10127

Jun 28, 2005, 03:16 PM

Ok ba ang twinhead? Yun na lang ang naiisip kong tagapagligtas ko…

Ang processor kasi nila ay amd mobile athlon xp 1900+ at amd mobile sempron 1900+…alin sa 2 ang maganda?

Meron silang efio p22t-g2b worth P62k…

ang specs ay:
amd mobile athlon xp 1900+
(with wifi na at free na hp 450 cbi portable printer)
128 mb ddram exp. to 640mb (pano ko na gagawing 1gb? Di ba pwedeng solusyon ang thumb drive?)
12.1”
Internal dvd-cdrw combo drive
3xusb, 1 type II PCMIA, 1 ext. vga
Roxio, power dvd/win xp home

>>maraming salamat mga pre…thumb drive nga ang naiisip kong solusyon…kumbaga dun ko ilalagay ang mga cad files ko…so pano? Yan na lang kaya bilhin ko? Bili na lang ako ng cooler para di initin, noh sa tingin nyo?

Maraming salamat talaga sa mga kasagutan nyo…ang laking tulong…na-save nyo sa pagkawaldas sana ang P60k ng nanay ko…nagkakaron na ako ng ideya tungkol sa mga laptop, salamat!

rain_10127

Jun 28, 2005, 08:29 PM

guys..isa pang tanong...alam nyo ba ang phoenix na brand?ok ba iyun?

bludwid

Jun 28, 2005, 09:21 PM

Only the BIOS... as a PC? dunno... send us a link.

Dunedain

Jun 29, 2005, 04:06 AM

Ok, guys, I need help…I’ll buy a laptop in a week or so…I’ll be using AutoCAD (at photoshop na ein )software most of the time since I’m an architecture student…

Egads! My batch were hauling t-squares or straight-edges, triangles, and all the drawing implements needed, not to mention a carrying case for them 20x30 tracing papers and illustration boards (sometimes even haul airbrushes, compressors, and a "leeroy" set). How time flies. :hmm:

0110|1001

Jun 29, 2005, 10:05 AM

Egads! My batch were hauling t-squares or straight-edges, triangles, and all the drawing implements needed, not to mention a carrying case for them 20x30 tracing papers and illustration boards (sometimes even haul airbrushes, compressors, and a "leeroy" set). How time flies. :hmm:

it only means na matanda ka na... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: joke lang pre!

rain_10127

Jun 29, 2005, 10:18 AM

man...tapos na ba kayo ng archi?

may website ba ang ecs elitegroup?para san nga uli ang online support?

frankies

Jul 2, 2005, 07:22 AM

any recommendation when buying a laptop in the U.S.? Planning to buy a laptop in the U.S.? Ok ba umorder thru website.... mas mura ba? For online orders, please recommend a site that you could buy online?

topnotch97

Jul 2, 2005, 11:52 AM

are you in the states right now? coz July 4th weekend is typically a time for price drop and SALE..... so if you know anyone, as them to grab it for you since madaming nag-aabang ng murang laptop...

whether buying it online or on-site, it doesn't really matter.

if you are a first time buyer, consider it buying in stores. it is more appropriate since you can see the laptop right in front of you and get a feel if it's the right one for you. whether or not you are getting it here in the Philippines, Hong Kong, Singapore, even in the US.

if you are planning to buy a laptop, make sure you make plans like a couple of months before hand. you need to watch out for Sale and the release of the latest model on stores. I suggest you visit some local shops, and see what would be best for your needs. then take note of prices, among the first, second, and third choices of laptops. now the next part would be to wait for the right time for the right price. just like here in the states, people usually wait for a good time when buying laptops. they wait for typical holiday sale, and when the current product line of laptops would be replaced by the next line. typically they change models like every three to six months. and best of all, the Black Friday sale. if you know anyone in the states who has been to the Black Friday sale rush, then that this the most anticipated time of the year where prices are really really really the lowest. so if you've been eyeing that $1,200 laptop to go down like $1,000. it will probably go as low as like $800 when Black Friday hits. Black Friday sale is usually the day after Thanksgiving which is around November. So what happens at Black Friday? well, it is the time of the year where you wait like 4 AM to get in line before stores like CompUSA or Fry's to open like 7 AM. you'll see people in waiting like a mile long. then when that clock strike's 7 AM, all hell breaks loose. it's a freakin stampede.

been there, done that.

same thing applies when buying online. try to wait for the right time to see those prices go down. I suggest looking at sites like Fatwallet.com for more. you'll see why.

topnotch97

Jul 2, 2005, 01:29 PM

for starters, here's Dell notebooks and current price offer

check out Dell4me.com or this link

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/odg_special49?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

jimboy

Jul 2, 2005, 11:19 PM

CoolTOYZph

Jul 2, 2005, 11:46 PM

I’ll be using AutoCAD (at photoshop na ein )software most of the time since I’m an architecture student…I need a budget-friendly laptop…at least P60000 (P70k is a bit tolerable)…questions… 1) enough na ba ang 40Gb? 1.6 Ghz? 256Mb? Medyo nalilito na ako sa pagpili…they say pentium m is really good when it comes to performance...

For Autocad more important than processor speed is the Video Card as Autocad is graphic intensive. If you will get a laptop with a shared video this will be the limiting factor. Even if you have the fastest processor your speed actual speed will be the speed of the RAM which is either 266Mhz or 333Mhz.

Try to find a laptop with atleast 64mb Video Card... the higher the better.
Hope this helps.

Little Wolf

Jul 3, 2005, 01:17 AM

O/T
@CoolTOYZph: wow! nice to see you here boss. :D eh? i'm just a lurker in tipidpc. hihihi..

topnotch97

Jul 3, 2005, 02:51 AM

makasabat lang po... ingat lang kayo sa dell, almost every year kailangan atang palitan yung hard disk nito. ewan ko kung bakit ganoon. just speaking from experience.

@frankies, kung may kakilala ka sa oregon, then go ahead and buy it online and let them deliver it to oregon. otherwise, most of the states have varying degree of sales tax. ang pinakamalaki na yata is california at 8.5%. i am quite a mobile person kaya i prefer the smaller 12inch laptops rather than the 15 inch ones. as for brands, nakatuwa yung sony, samsung. while the standard fare for me (office issue) are ibm and toshiba.

i beleive the prices here in singapore is quite competitive when it comes to internationally branded laptops.

i've had a Dell notebook before, and never encountered those HD problems. Sony Vaio was a piece of crap for me, that's the reason I switched to Dell.

oh and one more thing, those who are buying laptops in the future. If you guys know anyone who is studying at some university, or college here in the US, you can ask them to purchase those laptops for you guys. because universities here sell Laptops, PC, and Mac at student discounted price. just head down to campus bookstores and you'll see discounted prices on laptops. they usually give out like $300 retail discount.
I asked a friend to get me Mac OS X Tiger which retails for $129 at stores, but at the university it sells for like $80. Mura ano? then since the school was SJSU, they give out rebate for OS X Tger for $70. So I got that OS X for only $10!!! woot!

dogi

Jul 3, 2005, 03:05 AM

If you're planning to buy a laptop/notebook or other gadgets in the US. Always visit these sites.
www.slickdeals.net
www.dealtobuy.com
www.edealinfo.com
www.fatwallet.com
www.ableshoppers.com
www.ecoupons.com

good luck hunting.

OT: topnotch97 from where are you?

topnotch97

Jul 3, 2005, 09:40 AM

OT: dogi

San Jose, CA

bludwid

Jul 3, 2005, 07:15 PM

makasabat lang po... ingat lang kayo sa dell, almost every year kailangan atang palitan yung hard disk nito. ewan ko kung bakit ganoon. just speaking from experience.

@frankies, kung may kakilala ka sa oregon, then go ahead and buy it online and let them deliver it to oregon. otherwise, most of the states have varying degree of sales tax. ang pinakamalaki na yata is california at 8.5%. i am quite a mobile person kaya i prefer the smaller 12inch laptops rather than the 15 inch ones. as for brands, nakatuwa yung sony, samsung. while the standard fare for me (office issue) are ibm and toshiba.

i beleive the prices here in singapore is quite competitive when it comes to internationally branded laptops.

Dunno about this either. I worked as an IT Net Engineer for a while and never experienced this with Dell. I've worked with Dell for at least 3 years, supporting servers, laptops, and desktop clients - no such thing as a hard disk upgrade issue... that's illegal in the first place. a manufacturer cannot make it compulsory to upgrade... that's a breach of Fair Trade laws...

CoolTOYZph

Jul 3, 2005, 07:56 PM

makasabat lang po... ingat lang kayo sa dell, almost every year kailangan atang palitan yung hard disk nito. ewan ko kung bakit ganoon. just speaking from experience...
What model did you have a bad expereince?

topnotch97

Jul 4, 2005, 03:42 AM

unless there's a recall on Dell laptops and/or any of its accessories. Apple recently recalled some of its powerbook and ibook batteries because of fire hazard and safety issues. there's a legitimate reason but the recall move made sure that the customer is notified and was given a replacement.

which is why warranties are supposed to work in favor of customers, just like Apple, if you've experience problem you could return it to the company.

bludwid

Jul 4, 2005, 05:58 AM

Yes. if it's a product recall, then the manufacturer replaces the part/s with a new one, all expenses paid...

frankies

Jul 4, 2005, 07:41 AM

how good are AMD based laptops compared to centrino/ sonoma laptops? malakas pa rin po ba sa battery ang AMD laptops. ok po ba yung mga turion (similar ba ito sa Intel Celeron?) based laptops.

CoolTOYZph

Jul 4, 2005, 09:55 AM

We tested 2 AMD Based laptops. Both tested great and were free of the overheating problems normally associated with AMD processors.
Tested were the Compaq R3000 with AMD athlon 64 3200+ (2.0) and
Compaq R4000 with AMD Spempron 3200+(1.8).
Both laptops posed high value for money compared to their Pentium-4 counterparts. Very High Super Pi scores as well.
Note: But these are big laptops and not ultra portable.
We have yet to test ultra portable laptops(1/2" thick) with sufficient cooling system for the AMD system.

CoolTOYZph

Jul 4, 2005, 09:56 AM

note: I think the intel Turion is marketed to compete with the Intel Pentium-M with Centrino Platform Technology and not with the Intel Celeron...

frankies

Jul 4, 2005, 09:44 PM

cooltoyzph, thanks for the info. does AMD offer a similar solution similar to sonoma or centrino? I am also considering of getting an AMD based laptop but I am worried about the battery life as compared to a centrino or sonoma solution. thanks to everybody for any inputs that they have.

Guys, ok ba yung newegg.com na site to order a laptop online? Somebody recommended it but not sure if it is a good site to order?

CoolTOYZph

Jul 4, 2005, 10:34 PM

@frankies, AMD Battery power is now comparable to Intel.
It really depends on how cells are present in the battery. More Cells the longer battery life. Some Intel Based Laptop maximize the Speedstep-3 feature by using less cells to make the laptops thinner and lighter. As a cosequence the battery life is shortened despite an efficient energy consumption.

noteL this is only as far as the newer AMD processors are concerned.
for more information about AMD processors:
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_11600_11613,00.html

rain_10127

Jul 4, 2005, 10:34 PM

hey guys...maraming salamat uli sa mga responses nyo...di ako makakabili ng online ayaw ng parents ko...anyway, i've come to settle to ecs g600l notebook...yun na talaga...you can find it at www.ecs.com.tw check it out...quite good for me.it'll cost you around P60k or more...

nga pala, ilang oras nga uli and 8-cell?

CoolTOYZph

Jul 4, 2005, 10:37 PM

@rain, hope you consulted an existing owner of the ECS laptop before making the decision final. An existing user is always the best resource.

Battery Life:
Approximately 1.5 hours by 4 cell Li-Ion battery pack
Approximately 2.5 hours by 6 cell Li-Ion battery pack
More than 3 hours by 8 cell Li-Ion battery pack
http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?MenuID=18&LanID=0&DetailID=513&DetailName=Specification

BTW, it comes with shared video memory which may not be most suitable for Autocad...

dogi

Jul 4, 2005, 10:50 PM

topnotch97

Jul 5, 2005, 07:30 AM

ECS does oem for Dell?

mark_17

Jul 5, 2005, 10:38 AM

imo, it's better to buy laptops from "known" manufacturers or "branded" like IBM, Toshiba, Dell, etc. because these companies invest research and development and has a long history with these kind of products.. in short you get quality from their products, aside from product support.

unlike if you get laptops from "new players" like MSI and etc, you're not sure on the quality of their products kse hindi naman nila forte ang notebooks. why risk it?

ECS is a known motherboard manufacturer yet they still build crappy boards. But if you're adventurous type, then be the guinea pig for benefit of everybody. hehehe!

jimboy

Jul 5, 2005, 07:11 PM

tumpak ka mark. isipin niyo, hindi maliit ang 60K, pagnasira iyan lagot na. btw, upon checking the dell site, i noticed na mas mura ang presyo ng dell sa US kesa dito sa asya.

rain_10127

Jul 5, 2005, 08:47 PM

guys..eto na talaga..toshiba ang bibilhin namin tom...napagisip-isipan kong tama kayo...salamat uli..isa pang tanong..magkano ang paupgrade mula xp home to prof?

bludwid

Jul 5, 2005, 09:05 PM

big difference in price. i suggest getting a pirated copy... oops....

jimboy

Jul 5, 2005, 09:48 PM

rain, i might be able to give you a better price. why don't you tell me the model and the price in the phil. and i will try and see if i can give you a lower price.

rain_10127

Jul 5, 2005, 10:14 PM

http://www.pccorner.com.ph/products.do?action=showproductdetail&categoryid=54&productid=2166

how about this?ny reviews?aaah nape-pressure na ako...pine-pressure na kasi ako ng tatay ko na bumili.ok na ba iyang notebook na yan?urgent answers needed...

jimboy:
no thanks..much as i want to *sighs*...i dont think my dad will agree on that kind of setup =(

CoolTOYZph

Jul 5, 2005, 10:45 PM

Prestigio is a Generic Laptop.
No website support for the latest bios and drivers. Hope this link will clarify the statement.
http://cooltoyzph.com/viewarticle.php?aid=4

dogi

Jul 5, 2005, 11:28 PM

http://www.pccorner.com.ph/products.do?action=showproductdetail&categoryid=54&productid=2166

how about this?ny reviews?aaah nape-pressure na ako...pine-pressure na kasi ako ng tatay ko na bumili.ok na ba iyang notebook na yan?urgent answers needed...

http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/hardware/notebooks/0,39001743,39079941p,00.htm

topnotch97

Jul 6, 2005, 06:33 AM

guys..eto na talaga..toshiba ang bibilhin namin tom...napagisip-isipan kong tama kayo...salamat uli..isa pang tanong..magkano ang paupgrade mula xp home to prof?

actually mas maganda kung i-reformat mo yung laptop after getting it, kasi madami siyang third party programs atsaka kung anu ano pa na baka hindi mo kakailangan nin. ganyan ang ginawa ko dati sa laptop ko eh, puro walang kwentang program, kaya ni reformat ko. tapos i-update mo na lang ang mga drivers, etc.

a clean install like XP Pro would be a good idea
unless gusto mo rin yung advice ni bludwid..... ooppssss..... :bashful:

rain_10127

Jul 6, 2005, 06:51 AM

waaah!ayoko ng pirated!!!

rain_10127

Jul 6, 2005, 06:56 AM

aah no wonder...i couldnt find one sa prestigio.com...galeeng!final na...yung toshiba na...talaga bang medyo mabigat ang toshiba?pero cge ok lang...di naman ako on the go...maraming salamat...ang laking tulong nyo sa pagdedesisyon ko...kahit mukhang promising ang prestigio, sige wag na lang...salamat talaga...salamat!utang na loob ko to sa inyon (pambihira ang drama ko)

jimboy

Jul 6, 2005, 11:04 AM

toshiba has a wide range of notebooks. if you prefer the light one, IMO toshiba has one of the best ultralight notebooks in the market. the portege. yung nga lang, i think we're talking about the 90K range...

CoolTOYZph

Jul 6, 2005, 11:35 AM

@jimboy, the M50 is an ideal traveller's laptop
http://cooltoyzph.com/viewitem.php?iid=63

rain_10127

Jul 6, 2005, 03:13 PM

oh well...P90k..pambihira kasing maka-taga ng presyo dito sa pinas..salamat...pagdating ng panahon makakabili rin ako ng gusto ko talaga na laptop nang hindi na tinitingnan ang presyo hehehehe nagdrama pa..ge salamat

topnotch97

Jul 6, 2005, 03:36 PM

3rd quarter na ah.... may bagong labas na ba ng mga brand new model of laptops? maka-daan nga sa compusa. maka-urirat na rin. kailangan kong bumili para sa Mac ko.

Jul 6, 2005, 07:43 PM

are the x-mobile of pcx and the viper notebooks of villman any good? how about the averatecs?

CoolTOYZph

Jul 7, 2005, 09:26 AM

@u2, X-mobile and viper same Generic Laptop as Neonote
No website support for the latest bios and drivers.
Hope this link will clarify the statement.
http://cooltoyzph.com/viewarticle.php?aid=4

Avaratech has website support and is actually the US brand of Twinhead. Given than twinhead has local warranty and local distro maybe twinhead is a better option if no-other options exists. At the least you will have 1 year warranty on the laptop bought compared to Avaratech.

Best resource is a current user of the twinhead laptop. If he recommends the brand then it is a plus point. Then again the HP NX6120 with Celeron-M 350(1.3Ghz 1Mb L2 cache) 915Alviso Chipset / 512mb / 60gb / Cdrw-Dvd / Wifi / 15"XGA-910GMA is coming out this Friday and costs only 42K. It is a model we feel will rock the generic laptop market.

GOwin

Jul 7, 2005, 09:35 AM

Is that a typo or is it Averatec?

Averatec had been getting some mixed reviews on the net. Mostly nice though.

@cooltoyz
do you carry msi's megabook s270? if so, how's the customer feedback on this one?

CoolTOYZph

Jul 7, 2005, 10:04 AM

Typo erro. It is an Averatec
http://www.averatec.com/archives/index.htm

MSI is an branded laptop with complete updated on-line websupport for the latest bios and drivers. Their models look very similar to Dell designs. Unfortunately it is priced same as the big 4 - Dell, HP-Compaq, IBM, Toshiba. Given the price points we opted to offer to customers the better know brands.

The MSI S270+ is an AMD Turion which is intended to compete with the Intel Pentium-M (Sonoma). Priced at around 83K if not mistaken. Honestly we have not tried any Turion64 based Laptops at this time.

topnotch97

Jul 7, 2005, 05:21 PM

Averatec has improved a lot I must say..... they've been like competing against the laptop market and they've manage to grab a fair market share...

Gateway notebooks, i dunno what's going on....
Sony Vaio....losing the market share i guess...

Jul 8, 2005, 04:13 PM

double post

Jul 8, 2005, 04:21 PM

cooltoyzph, is the HP NX6120 the same one as villman's current HP Compaq NX6120 at php39950? if not, how is it better?

what's the unit's battery life? what's 'hp mobile data protection system'?

do you have the php42k HP NX6120 at your store already? can you send me the detailed specs pls? is the 512mb ram 1x512 or 2x256? max ram also at 2gig?

also, which do you think is better: nx6120 or Acer Aspire 3502WLCi (also at villman for php49900)? i'm trying to see if the incremental additions to the acer (ram, printer, software) is worth the additional 10k. only problem is see now (compared to the nx6120) is the max64mb shared video memory for the acer

thanks

CoolTOYZph

Jul 8, 2005, 11:01 PM

@U2, same model but from diffirent distro.(Lamco vs. MSI)
The model we carry we feel is more end-user friendly.

A 256mb is a minimum requirement for efficient use of the Win Xp users. But since the NX6120 has shared video (via Intel 900GM Extreme) then only 192mb will be left for Win-Xp which we feel is insufficient.
Ram installed on the model we chose is 256mb x 2, also the HDD is 60Gb vs. 40Gb
We feel at the end of the day the end user will eventually purchase the upgrades for efficient use...

The Acer 3502WLCi if not mistaken uses the SiS chipset for video which was the found in P3 laptops. Please correct if we are wrong.

rain_10127

Jul 8, 2005, 11:12 PM

bludwid

Jul 8, 2005, 11:16 PM

i think the battery you have now is ok. I won't recommend you to often work on it while it's unplugged anyway, because you will be pushing your system if you're using AutoCAD and other applications... whenever possible plug it in...

LCD cleaner? You should be able to get any old cleaner from PC shops. get the cheapest... i just use a damp cloth while it's off...seems to work...

Jul 8, 2005, 11:24 PM

rain_10127

Jul 10, 2005, 09:31 AM

thanks a lot bludwid...i think il buy a cooler na lang muna...hmm...tama mape-pwersa nga ang battery...halos araw-araw ko kasing ginagamit ang notebook ko...pero sa tingin nyo magkano?i need an extra battery pack...

another question...how much pa-upgrade to 1gig?256 lang mb ko eh...

topnotch97

Jul 10, 2005, 09:39 AM

i'm not sure about the cost of extra batteries. malakas kasing ma-drain kapag nagmu-multi-task ka eh. i try to limit my work on the battery or whenever unplugged.

the only time i use the laptop when unplugged when i need to use it really really important. at hindi pang matagalan.

typically for laptop buyers, RAM, HD, bags, and Softwares ang kadalasang binibili. yung iba accessories na gaya ng lock, at iba pa.

kasi parang pang-dagdag lang sa bitbit ko.

but i think there are like external battery pack available. they're not that many, becuase most batteries last longer nowadays. but it would also compromise a lot whenever there is a speed bump or newer models coming out.

rain_10127

Jul 10, 2005, 09:51 AM

rain_10127

Jul 10, 2005, 10:29 AM

tanong uli...ano at para saan ang pc card?

dogi

Jul 10, 2005, 12:48 PM

good thing i asked you guys...been using it unplugged most of the time...now i know...atlis naagapan ang pag-abuso ko sana...hehe thanks topnotch97...ang nasa listahan na nga ng bibilhin ko eh backpack,cooler,ram upgrade, software...may iba pa bang store na gaya ng data blitz(tama ba?)?
Hi rain_10127. I have 2 x 256MB laptop memory (2x256MB) pulled out from a working laptops since I upgraded our laptops with additional 1GB. I also have a vantec laptop cooler. If you're interested, PM me and make your offer. I'll be home next week.

1 used Samsung 256MB DDR PC2700 333MHz CL2.5 - Pulled out from working eMachines m6809

1 used Hynix 256MB DDR PC2700 333Mhz CL2.5 - Pulled out from a working Dell Inspiron 600m

1 used VANTEC LapCool2 Notebook Cooler Model LPC-301
http://www.vantecusa.com/p_lpc301.html

dogi

Jul 10, 2005, 12:55 PM

another question...how much pa-upgrade to 1gig?256 lang mb ko eh...

I purchased (2x1GB) last week for $100 each.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820155111
KINGMAX 1GB 200-Pin DDR SO-DIMM DDR 333 (PC 2700) Notebook Memory - OEM

dogi

Jul 10, 2005, 01:11 PM

tanong...magkano isang battery pack ng toshiba?at saan ako makakabili?ayos lang ba na 12cell ang bilhin ko kahit na ang nauna'y 6cell?kulit ng tanong ko...bagito kasi sa laptop...ano nga palang panlinis ng lcd?is it safer kung gamitin ko yung laptop na nakasaksak ang ac adapter (tama ba) habang ginagamit ko?makakabuti ba iyon sa battery ko?bigay naman kayo ng mga tips (la na akong oras para basahin ang manual)...jus give me the basic know-how...salamat...
Panlinis ng LCD - You can use a room temperature clean water and a soft cloth. Moisten the cloth and wipe carefully the lcd in one direction then wipe with a dry soft cloth. Others use a mixture of water and isophrophyl alcohol. Do not use ammonia based cleaner.

AC Adapter - It is safe to use the AC adapter while the laptop is on. Just calibrate the battery once in awhile (maybe every month) by draining it.

Tips:
If you want your laptop to boot faster use hybernation.
Use a good anti-virus and anti-spyware
Create a restore disk if you don't have
Download and burn www.ultimatebootcd.com

CoolTOYZph

Jul 10, 2005, 01:42 PM

CoolTOYZph

Jul 10, 2005, 01:45 PM

@dogi, we are interested in the RAM and hoping to meet up with you when you are in Manila :=)

dogi

Jul 10, 2005, 02:15 PM

^ which RAM? The ram I posted above or the one in your PM?

topnotch97

Jul 10, 2005, 04:16 PM

Laptop Coolers powered through the USB ports actually make the laptop produce more internal heat because the power is supplied by the internal power supply.

Our take is that to have efficient cooling you need to have external power supply or use the speedball common to MAC users.

http://www.postworx.com/addictbook.jpg

napapansin ko lang, buti pa ang mga macs gaya ng ibook atsaka powerbook magaganda ang mga accessories. pero pipitsugin sa mga pc laptops. ba't ganun.... may inarte siguro..... ehehehehe :lol:

CoolTOYZph

Jul 10, 2005, 10:49 PM

The laptop cooler is both for PC and Mac :=)

smilewarrior

Jul 11, 2005, 02:04 AM

Just my 2 cents for the laptop hunters:

1. As far as Graphics cards are concerned, graphics rendering by Intel Extreme graphics 2 or even Intel Graphics Media accelerator 900 is at best, uhmm, average.

You have to do a lot of tweaking to get the color right. The screen gets dim unless you disable the ambient light sensor, which dims the screen on purpose to prolong battery life.

If you want images to be sharp and details to at least be noticeable go for Ati Radeon equipped laptops. Nvidia is a good alternative, though Ati is better. Believe me, you'll appreciate the difference once you compare the images between different laptops.

2. If you have the money and need to use your laptop for multi-tasking (opening several programs at once) then don't get a Celeron based laptop. Even at 2 ghz it's just too slow. Productivity will be hampered.

If all you do is word processing, it's somewhat acceptable. If you edit images, make publications, presentations, spreadsheets and the like, it's a bit abysmal at best.

Increasing the ram will help a lot. Get at least something with 512 mb ddr ram.

If you're on a very tight budget, then I guess a Celeron will do. I'm not saying you won't be able to use your laptop, all I'm saying is you'll find yourself repeating over and over again:

"Patience is a virtue...Patience is a virtue...Patience is a virtue...."

CoolTOYZph

Jul 11, 2005, 12:57 PM

@smilewarrior, to add I guess a distinction must be made between the Older Celeron(256mb L2 Cache) against the Celeron-M(1Mb L2 Cache). The Celeron-M 345 and above have very good performance.

smilewarrior

Jul 11, 2005, 07:34 PM

^^
@CoolTOYZph:
Really? If I may add, won't a pentium III or even a Pentium IV perform faster than a Celeron M?

I'll admit I've only used a Celeron before and am currently using a Pentium M. Without firsthand experience, I rely on reviews on the net for impressions on the Celeron M.

From the few reviews I've read, I gather that it's possible that the celeron M is faster the older celeron, but Multi-tasking is still a problem.

If you've had experience in using the Celeron M while running several programs at once , like Microsoft Powerpoint, Microsoft Excel and Microsoft Publisher, please share them. I'm very intrigued as to how good a Celeron M could possibly perform.

CoolTOYZph

Jul 11, 2005, 10:16 PM

Are you using the Pentium-M Banias(1mb L2 Cache) Core or Pentium-M Dothan Core(2mb L2 cache)?

The Celeron-M family beginning with the 345 series has the same 1Mb L2 Cache of the Pentium-M Banias Core. The Celeron-M shares the same architecture as the Pentium-M family except that the Intel Speedstep-3 technology has been turned-off, so the Processor is always at full speed. The net effect is that the battery life becomes shorter vs a Pentium-M laptop.

Without the Enhance Intel SpeedStep technology, the Celeron-M will always run at its full clock speed at all time, causing a drain on battery power. Battery power, as we know it is as important to a notebook as fuel is to an automobile. Fortunately, the Celeron-M isn't a total wipeout in power conservation. It features one important power saving technology called Deep Sleep. With Deep Sleep, processor voltage will be lowered beyond the minimum operating voltage needed while ensuring the processor stays powered on.

In terms of speed
Pentium-3 only had 256kb L2 cache and 100Mhz FSB plus uses the slower PC100 memory.
Celeron only has 256kb L2 Cache
Pentium-4 only has 512kb L2 Cache
The Celeron-M 345 up has 1Mb L2 Cache and 400Mhz Fsb.

I like how one article explained the relationship of cache to performance: ...Pausing here for a moment, if you had understood the performance impact the size of an L2 cache have on a processor, you would by now be able to figure out that the overall performance level of a Celeron-M processor is going to be the same as its full fledged Pentium-M twin. Cache is actually the pillars of a processor's memory subsystem. The fastest system RAM you can find on the market today are not even close in terms of latencies and bandwidth to feed your high-speed processor with data and instructions fast enough for efficient processing. Without these caches, your high-end processor would spend most of its processing time idling and waiting for the comparatively slower RAM for data and instructions for processing.

Our own testing using Super Pi tests as a measure the Celeron-M 370 (1.5Ghz) and Pentium-M 705(1.5Ghz) had the same results.
http://intel.com/products/processor_number/info.htm#cm

rave81

Jul 11, 2005, 10:41 PM

buy apple ibook 12" 1.2ghz, it is a best notebook pc you could buy this for about $800 at www.amazon.com, or check the website of apple www.apple.com, its better than intel and microsoft

CoolTOYZph

Jul 11, 2005, 10:50 PM

@rave81, did you hear that MAC is shifting to the intel platform?

Jul 11, 2005, 11:16 PM

smilewarrior, look at it this way:

order of importance:
1 clockspeed
2 L2 cache
3 RAM

basic assumption: the bigger, the better, the faster. of course, there are some other factors to worry about (fsb, video memory, etc) but these are the items which you should normally consider. in the end, depende naman `yan lahat sa needs mo; sayang lang if you buy a high performance notebook kung puro office apps lang pala pinapaandar mo =)

in my case, i just need a decent processor with a lot of ram since i run multiple instances of sap and office apps at the same time. cooltoyzph, still waiting for your comments on my questions. or maybe i'll pass by your store one of these days (lapit lang naman)

smilewarrior

Jul 12, 2005, 01:10 PM

^^
Ok then. Good luck laptop hunting.

jimboy

Jul 12, 2005, 11:17 PM

my 2cents...

if your budget is tight, buy a desktop.

CoolTOYZph

Jul 13, 2005, 12:20 AM

cooltoyzph: yes, your 42k nx6120 looks more promising than the 39k version. will it perform better if video is maxed to 128mb (or will change be unnoticable)? how much will be added to the cost if i upgrade 1 of the 256mb modules to 512mb? am i correct to say that ram runs at 333mhz?

again, what's the unit's battery life (how many cells)? what's 'hp mobile data protection system'?

just in case, do you accept deferred payments (0% installments perhaps) for equitable or citibank visa? also, do you accept trade-ins?

Sorry for the late reply.
1. When RAM is 512mb the Allocated memory to Video is adjusted to 128mb
2. RAM runs at DDR333
3. Battery life was tested at 1.5Hours on DVD-Movie and 2.25Hour on HDD-Movie.
4. Deferred Payment by BPI Mastercard Only
5. Trade-in subject to unit specs and evaluation. (Branded Laptops Only)

Hope reply will be sufficient to your querry.

Agapito

Jul 13, 2005, 03:31 AM

if your budget is tight, buy a desktop.

Ang hirap bitbitin niyan. Dapat maskulado ka. :glee:

rave81

Jul 13, 2005, 12:24 PM

@rave81, did you hear that MAC is shifting to the intel platform?
no kidding?, what are the reasons of apple to shift at intel based?

Jul 13, 2005, 01:25 PM

cooltoyz, sent you a pm. i hope we can do some business.

rave81, i think mostly because of heat issues (dein kaya `yung g5). so expect the current g4 notebooks to drop prices soon. also, the intel-based macs of the future should be cheaper (yehey)

topnotch97

Jul 13, 2005, 04:17 PM

the news of apple switching from ibm to intel was all over the news. it made headlines, so i don't think you could have missed it out.

laptopboy2005

Jul 13, 2005, 04:44 PM

is there anything i can do to remove the scratches on my laptop?

topnotch97

Jul 13, 2005, 07:10 PM

how to remove scratches on laptops:

http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216158&highlight=laptop+scratches

exar

Jul 14, 2005, 09:40 AM

laptop related question*

ok b *** laptop cooler na unpowered?? *** *** ng usb connection or battery.. san pedeng mag-upgrade ng memory??

topnotch97

Jul 14, 2005, 09:53 AM

dapat katabi mo electric fan.... :D
unless may liquid cooling system ka. but on the serious side, i think building a cooling system, ie build-your-own, would be a good idea.

frankies

Jul 14, 2005, 10:13 PM

guys, tanong lang po.... if you order online sa HP in the U.S., nakalagay lang sa site 1 year standard warranty.... is it safe to assume 1 year international warranty yon?

CoolTOYZph

Jul 15, 2005, 01:47 AM

@rave81, below is the link to Apple possibly switching to Intel.

Apple to ditch IBM, switch to Intel chips
http://news.com.com/Apple+to+ditch+IBM,+switch+to+Intel+chips/2100-1006_3-5731398.html?tag=nefd.lede

exar

Jul 15, 2005, 08:23 AM

dapat katabi mo electric fan.... :D
unless may liquid cooling system ka. but on the serious side, i think building a cooling system, ie build-your-own, would be a good idea.

thanks.. yun nga ang ginagawa ko.. pag patay *** aircon.. nkatapat sa electricfan *** laptop ko.. i'm thinking of buying a cooler or a memory upgrade..

may alam ka ba ng magandang png linis ng LCD??

topnotch97

Jul 15, 2005, 09:03 AM

soft cotton shirt sa akin.....

unless kung may dumi, alcohol.

smilewarrior

Jul 15, 2005, 05:46 PM

^^
Just to add, I use a non-scratching cleaning cloth.

The brand 3M manufactures a "Len's cleaning cloth" which you can buy from hardware shops like Shopwise. I use it to clean the lcd screen of my camera and my laptop screen.

SHEsurgeon

Jul 17, 2005, 09:38 PM

The HP Compaq Nx6120 in VillMan can also be upgraded to 512mb and 60gb HD depending on the customer's preference. Try checking their website at www.villman.com for any of your computer/laptop needs and online support

codylee23

Jul 18, 2005, 11:06 AM

i checked with their website, add 2500 to upgrade to 512mb ram, but no option indicated for upgrade of HD.

topnotch97

Jul 18, 2005, 11:58 AM

hard drives are standard, meaning they come along with as they came out of the assembly. the RAM is just something as an accessory. the ram can be easily added just by popping out the port.
as for the HD, they need to open it and replace it, and install a fresh operating system. so the cost would be higher. something they new, as retailers, that it is not marketable. they consider it as an option someting down the line.
but if they have that option available, you need to ask them and they will give you an estimate.

CoolTOYZph

Jul 18, 2005, 04:40 PM

CoolTOYZph

Jul 18, 2005, 04:50 PM

tanong uli...ano at para saan ang pc card?

@rain, the PCMCIA port is like the expansion slot of a Laptop.
example, if your laptop does not have an internal Wifi Slot you can purchase a PCMCIA Wifi card. Whereas a USB is external the PCMCIA is internal(sort of) and is actually faster than USB.

These days the PCMCIA is mostly used for additional ports.
You can get a PCMCIA - USB Port / Firewire Port / 6-in-1 Card reader / and the like. Some Enthusiasts synch their 5Gb PCMCIA Hard drive installed on their handhelds.

for more information about PCMCIA/pC Card use:
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/P/PCMCIA.html

topnotch97

Jul 18, 2005, 05:50 PM

If you order on-line like in the US you may customize the laptop to fit your requirement. But in Manila, most of the time you get the laptop as it was configured by the ditributor.

One reason is because what will the shop do with all the replaced harddrive? Second is because the distributor will provide the warranty based on the original specs. Any upgrade may cause an issue during Warranty/RMA scenario.

Even as a store, we can not request the distributor to configure the laptop to our specs because they are more of traders - they sell the units as they were imported, the less they do the better. We actually receive the units from from the distributors with all the warranty stickers attached to prevent us from tampering with the internals.

One option is to wait until the warranty expires then you may upgrade the unit to your liking. Nevertheless, the NX6120 is a highly recommended buy... while supplies last.

just to add on CoolToyzph's post, companies like Dell outsource the assembly to another third party in which handles the assembling and customization of units. if let say you wanted something on the unit, let's say different video card, additional storage, etc., then Dell collects the information and routes that to the assembly line. this is how Dell works, which is why you don't see their products "off-the-shelf." Dell's market revolves around mail-order or online-order purchases, because this is were the market is. if anyone would notice, Dell has "physical" distributors around, but the actual units they have are already pre-installed.
goind back to the question, it will depend on the brand name of the unit but this seldom. unless units are generic, they can be modified. given that they are allowed to do so.

dogi

Jul 19, 2005, 08:37 AM

As far as I know. Laptop hard drive and memory are user upgradable components. You can upgrade it by yourself without voiding the manufacturer warranty.

CoolTOYZph

Jul 19, 2005, 09:54 AM

You can upgrade it by yourself without voiding the manufacturer warranty. - IMO, if there are warranty stickers on the access screws and the stickers are tampered then it may be an issue with the vendor. Reason vendors placed warranty sticker is to avoid the user from replacing the parts.

dogi

Jul 19, 2005, 09:09 PM

I forgot that most warranties in the Philippines are through the vendor not through manufacturer.

codylee23

Jul 20, 2005, 01:31 AM

speaking of hp nx6120, does anyone know what's the difference between the nx6120 and the nx6110?

topnotch97

Jul 20, 2005, 01:47 AM

^^ it's all in the specs. check the specs if there's a difference between the processor speed, memory, or the HD. one higher than the other could be the processor, so check the spec sheets.

CoolTOYZph

Jul 20, 2005, 12:39 PM

speaking of hp nx6120, does anyone know what's the difference between the nx6120 and the nx6110

@CodyLee

The difference is in the ports:
* 6120 models -
o (4) USB 2.0
o VGA
o Mic In
o Line Out
o 1394
o Power
o RJ-11
o RJ-45; Lock
o S-Video
o Parallel
o Serial
o FIR
o Docking
o Two (2) Type I/II PCMCIA slots or One (1) Type III PCMCIA slot

* 6110 models -
o (2) USB 2.0
o VGA
o Mic In
o Line Out
o 1394
o Power
o RJ-11
o RJ-45
o Lock
o (1) Type I/II PCMCIA slot

Hope this helps.

topnotch97

Jul 20, 2005, 12:46 PM

@CodyLee

The difference is in the ports:

Hope this helps.

doesn't come with wireless?

codylee23

Jul 20, 2005, 01:02 PM

thanks for the info cooltoyzph

CoolTOYZph

Jul 20, 2005, 02:49 PM

doesn't come with wireless?
Wireless is classified under communication. Both models have mini-Pci Wireless slots.
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c00287804

frankies

Jul 20, 2005, 09:37 PM

has anyone here tried ordering online and ship it in the U.S. ? pwede ba yung local na credit cards natin? Napansin ko kasi tulad ng HP nakalagay US based credit cards when I tried to order online.

topnotch97

Jul 21, 2005, 03:18 AM

^^ if you know anyone in the US, he or she can purchase it for you. Shipping address would be different of course.

codylee23

Jul 21, 2005, 11:56 PM

which would be a better buy? given the ports differences nx6110 pentium-m 730 256mb 30gig at 50k or nx6120 celeron-m 350 512mb 60gig at 42k?

mark_17

Jul 22, 2005, 06:26 PM

i think the nx6120 celeron-m 350 512mb 60gig at 42k doesn't include the licensed OS... does the nx6110 includes a licensed OS?

codylee23

Jul 23, 2005, 12:13 AM

nope, it doesn't come with licensed OS

topnotch97

Jul 23, 2005, 03:28 AM

figures.... :D

Pao|o

Jul 23, 2005, 04:29 AM

It comes with a licensed copy of DOS. DOS is an operating system! For some odd reason OEMs charge more for Windows than a shrink wrap copy you get off the shelf.

CoolTOYZph

Jul 23, 2005, 10:21 AM

Based on the information released to stores by HP-Compaq all Pentium-M variants sold by HP come with Windows XP. If it does not have Licensed Software then it must be one of the locally upgraded models... try to bring directly to Compaq and you will find out the warranty will be void.

The Celeron-M variant was allowed to be released with only DOS as it is suppose to be the people's laptop program. IMHO, some people trying to pull a fast one...

coyote_ugly

Jul 23, 2005, 11:09 AM

Pao|o

Jul 23, 2005, 02:22 PM

Pull a fast one? Most people dont want to pay a licensed copy of Windows. ;)

On Mac laptops.

If you're willing to wait for 7 more days Apple is rumored to release an update to the iBook by next week. Within 30 days they're also expected to release an update to the new Powerbook.

What this means is you do not want to buy a soon to be outdated model at current prices. If you were to wait until the new models come out you could avail of the discount of the newly phased out units or buy the newely updated iBook or Powerbook at current prices.

http://thinksecret.com/news/0507ibook2.html
http://thinksecret.com/news/0507ibook.html

Macs are OK so long as it can be used in your classes. Most people would say NO because they dont know what Macs can do these days. Then again their are some apps (ie: AUTOCAD) that doesnt have a Mac OS X port. So do some legwork and find out what apps you're expected to use at your MIS course and see if their are ports on it for Mac OS X (OS X is the UNIX-based operating system of Macs). Buying a Mac is pretty much based on what you're willing to spend. The most humble of ₱58,500 iBook G4s can handle pretty much anything you throw at it. Windows is only better in regards to finding someone to help when (not if) problems arise such as virus, spyware, adware, malware, worms, crashes, etc. Windows is also better when it comes to games. Windows is only better if you have a fetish for upgrading to the cutting edge of videocards.

Everything you need to know about being a dual user (user of both Windows & Mac) and a switcher (someone who primarily use Macs) can be read at http://www.apple.com/switch/

Apple is the only personal computer (in the most general sense of the term) that offers really inexpensive (never cheap) 12" laptops. They generally weigh under 5lbs. If you want something smaller & ligher (weighs 2.7-3.2lbs) and dont mind not having an optical drive I'd recommend Lenovo/IBM's Thinkpad X Series. Learn more about it at http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/thinkpad/xseries/index.html

If you do decide on going with an iBook or Powerbook keep an eye out on Technology Today. I (or someone else) will post a thread if new iBooks & Powerbooks are already available for sale.

After you used a Mac your expectation in computers in general will rise.

coyote_ugly

Jul 23, 2005, 03:12 PM

topnotch97

Jul 23, 2005, 03:33 PM

my advice, don't rush to get a laptop. take your time. do some research. learn from what people have to say and what they said about such and such. start by reading this thread from the first post at the first page. try to absorb as much as information as you can. people like yourself already asked the same questions that you mentioned.

and like what pao|o said you might want to wait for another week, they might release that rumored ibook.

i give it a month before you decided what to buy.

coyote_ugly

Jul 23, 2005, 04:11 PM

that's what i said to my grandparents but they want me to decide 'today' which laptop should i buy. they said it would be cheaper in the US and my brother will be coming home soon. im browsing sites since 8am this morning. cant decide. :( my choices are down to 2. it's between the ibook and the one which i posted the link above.

CoolTOYZph

Jul 23, 2005, 05:43 PM

Im a 1st year college student taking up management information systems
- I do not think a lot of systems/programs work with Mac system... is that correct?

If you are thinking long term, Sempron is out.
I would reccomend you get an AMD Turion64 System as
this would be ready for the 64-bit world. ;)
http://cooltoyzph.com/viewitem.php?iid=72

CoolTOYZph

Jul 23, 2005, 05:49 PM

Pull a fast one? Most people dont want to pay a licensed copy of Windows
- I meant selling a Brand New Laptop with the warranty void because of the upgrade of processor...

Jul 23, 2005, 10:03 PM

good thing i found this thread! can you guys also help me pick which laptop should i buy? my grandparents are planning to buy me one. im a 1st year college student taking up management information systems so that's why they decided to buy me a laptop. (thanks to their friend's daughter for telling them that students taking up MIS really are in need of laptops) :D
actually im planning to buy an ibook. i think powerbook is too powerful. isn't it? is MAC ok? some friends are telling me kasi na windows are way better than MAC. im not after the gaming really. can you guys recommend some laptops which might be better than ibook? oh and btw, im a girl so it would be better if it's light and i want the LCD to be around 12"-14". dont like big screens. :)

i graduated mis from you know where. good for you since you're getting a notebook, kailangan talaga. i don't think though that the mac will be good for you in the long run. ok siya for the media electives but once you get to the database courses, walang magagawa `yung ibook/powerbook mo. i suggest though that you get a notebook with the following:

- magaan
- wifi
- long battery life
- pentium processor (for your multimedia classes)
- 1 gig ram
- widescreen display (for opennign multiple excel instances - this will definitely happen)
- at least 60gb hd for your multimedia / database projects (and endless philo and theo papers)

i think cooltoyz's units are good for this (salestalk na to ha). the hp nx6120 (sonoma model) should be good for you kasi may possible expansion pa `nung ram tsaka maganda na `yung chipset (tatagal `to for your purposes). mura pa kung titingnan. i'm not sure though about the turion, not really updated with amd technologies. maybe cooltoyz can help is with the comparisons (pentium, celeron, turion, sempron, athlon xp, athlon 64, etc).

good luck. welcome to the wonderful world of mis.

Pao|o

Jul 23, 2005, 10:50 PM

thanks Pao|o for the reply! my brother is in los angeles right now. unfortunately, he will be going home this friday. so i guess waiting for another week for an updated ibook will not be possible. sa kanya kasi ako papabili. laptops are way cheaper in the us.
he recommended me this one http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/HP-Pavilion-Notebook-PC-ZE2113US-/sem/rpsm/oid/126345/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
it's $200 cheaper than ibook. which should i buy? anyone? thanks! :)
The current iBook retails at $999 + local US taxes. While the same $999 laptop sold here in the Philippines sells for P58,500. US$1 = PhP56.00. There's this supplier who ships from HK who has a good track record. If you want I can reffer you to a thread with people praising his track record in terms of customer service. I personally bought computer equipment and it was hassle free. Took 24 hrs after payment before I received the package in good order. He mails items anywhere in the country.

As for the HP Pavillion Notebook check if it has international warranty. If it doesnt it means you cannot have it fixed in the Philippines for free in the event it breaks down. You will have to pay for repairs. It costs alot to fix out of warranty laptops. That's is why it is so cheap.

Also consider how heavy the HP Pavillion Notebook will be. Anything beyond 6lbs is plain barbaric. Back in 1999 I used to use a 7.7lbs 14" IBM Thinkpad 390E (man I'm such a nerd for remembering the model) and damn thing's heavy. I'm a big guy that works out and I find it a drag to carry. The 7.7lbs weight of the laptop doesnt factor in the charger, cable, mouse, bag and other things that come within the bag.

Apple laptops on the other hand all have international warranty.

If I were to choose between the HP Compaq or the IBM, I would go with IBM. Why because IBM Thinkpads are the gold standard in terms of Windows/Linux laptops. Not to mention IBM support is miles better than HP Compaq. Recently I tried fixing the office's Compaq Evo D320 Minitower personal computer and the support website is pretty much useless. The IBM on the other hand (I've used a fair number of Thinkpads at work and school) are so well supported and pretty much standard.

I would only recommand the HP Pavillion your bro's proposing if you really need the extras.

Before you decide remember that you will be using that laptop until the day you graduate. The last thing you want is a heavy burden for the next 4 years.

Pao|o

Jul 23, 2005, 10:52 PM

- I meant selling a Brand New Laptop with the warranty void because of the upgrade of processor...
Almost all laptops (excluding the ECS ones) do not allow for processor upgrades.

Pao|o

Jul 23, 2005, 11:12 PM

- IMO, if there are warranty stickers on the access screws and the stickers are tampered then it may be an issue with the vendor. Reason vendors placed warranty sticker is to avoid the user from replacing the parts.
The Acer Travelmate has that. I think it stupid that they do this locally. In the US anyone can upgrade their branded laptop, desktop or server. Only in the Philippines will you see these stupid warranty sticker.

This is just me but if the customer themselves damages the innards of their property it is out of warranty. Warranty is only there if and only if the defects are caused by the manufacturer.

CoolTOYZph

Jul 24, 2005, 01:46 AM

@cayote, if your "financers" are determined that you will source the laptop from your brother in the US; my recommendation will be the HP Limited Edition LiveStrong http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_series.do?storeName=computer_store&category=notebooks/livestrong&series_name=L2000_series&catLevel=2&tab_switch=true&tab=specs
1. It has a 14.Wide Screen as recommended by U2
2. It uses the AMD Turion64bit which is ready for the 64bit world
3. Weight: 5.38 lbs as recommended by Paolo
4. A definite Head-turner :rotflmao:

Recommended specs for your needs:
AMD Turion(TM) 64 ML-34 (1.8GHz/1MB L2 Cache)
14.0 WXGA BrightView Widescreen (1280x768)
- display quality just like a Wega TV
1 x 512mb
80gb 5400RPM
DVD+/-RW/R & CD-RW Combo w/Double Layer Support
54g(TM) Integ. Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN & Bluetooth
12 Cell Lithium Ion Battery - for long battery life
Website price is $1,168.00 + Free Shipping (Php66,000)

Hope this helps.

note: Seriously, please ask your brother to get me one also and I will pay when he arrives... ;)

Pao|o

Jul 24, 2005, 02:31 AM

Turn to Warranty page and alas no mention of international warranty
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_series.do?storeName=computer_store&category=notebooks/livestrong&series_name=L2000_series&catLevel=2&tab_switch=true&tab=warranty

64 bit processors are nice and all but WinXP 64 bit is limited in availability and isnt packaged with the laptop. There arent, as of yet, 64 bit apps. There probably wont be 64 bit only apps or OS in the next 5 years.

What makes this laptop funny is that it is based on a campaign of testicular cancer. I'd hate to be the brother to buy this laptop. ;)

All I can say is I'm glad Apple's ditching PPC. :D

the_BuGs

Jul 24, 2005, 02:39 AM

experience.. da best ang HP NC6120... applications installed sa laptop

- AutoCAD
- Intools 6.0
- Oracle Client 9.2
- Microsoft Visual Studio 6.0
- Lotus Notes 6.5
- Acrobat Distiller Prof. 7.0
- Windows 2000K Prof OS
- Office 2003
- Microsoft Visio

+ ibang ek ek na application

Ok pa rin ang performance... hindi mabagal at mahaba a yung battery life nya.. 2.+ KG lang kaya magaang dalhin. ang pinaka ok pa dito eh me serial port which is important din sa field ko para at least ma-te-test ko yung mga hardwares sa remote area.

CoolTOYZph

Jul 24, 2005, 09:38 AM

What makes this laptop funny is that it is based on a campaign of testicular cancer. I'd hate to be the brother to buy this laptop. ha ha ha! That made this morning good! Thanks Paolo! :lol:

elgee

Sep 11, 2005, 11:38 PM

hi guys, planninhg to buy laptop at the US (papabili from a friend) budget is around $900-$1100. Saw ads at net...Dell Inspiron 700M or the Inspiron 6000 which do u think is more worth-it? and the HP Pavilion d1000? cant really recall the product code.

guys and gals need advise (i prefer HP or DELL)
here's my spec...
Pentium 4, Pentium M or the Centrino (either of the 3)
at least 512MB
combo drive
with modem, Ethernet port...etc...
60 to 80GB

do u think i cud get a laptop worth 900-1000?

pls advise thanks...
btw, my friend will be bak this december pa naman....*** month *** sale?

thanks ng marami

topnotch97

Sep 12, 2005, 02:24 AM

@ elgee
my first question is, how often are you going to use it? meaning are you that mobile or always on the go? the reason is that you need to consider the size of the laptop. if you're always going places and you need your system asap, you need to consider the versatility of the laptop. a small laptop fits that purpose, if not you need a big and heavy laptop. that is the difference between 700m and 6000, the 700m is the smallest Dell laptop, which has always been praised by college students for being light and portable. most people that i know have 700m since you can stash it in your backpack and it's not heavy on the shoulders. so regardless of brand, HP or Dell, consider the hardware and profile. both HP and Dell are good when it comes to performance, i don't see why you need to worry about which brand to get since the hardware tells it all.

now, most laptops from Dell or HP have Pentium M or Centrinos, so it is just a matter at a quick glance. Pentium M is pretty much standard and common to most laptops.

same with Wi-Fi and Ethernet. majority of laptops have built-in wi-fi, as they are also common. again, just the check before buying, and no need to worry about the extra add-ons.

and for HD, common HD is around 30 to 40. if you want a bigger HD space, just spend an extra Benjamins and it's all good.

i hope that answers most of your questions.

right now, since it is back to school here in the states, you can take advantage of the sales (CompUSA, BestBuy, Fry's etc.)
or if you know anyone who is studying in college, the college bookstores give out good student discounts on pc and laptops. like here in SJSU, the Apple iBooks are discounted around $300 off of the MSRP.

so keep looking around. and just ask anyone in here.

and "what month yung sale?" unless you're refering to the Black Friday Sale, which happens every year around the day after Thanksgving.

gUy^

Sep 13, 2005, 01:59 AM

hi just bought a laptop from circuit city. its a toshiba m55-s165
got ds for $749 + 6%tax then bumili ako ng 512mb memory as an add on for $50.. ako nalng nagkabit coz mahal labor nila hehe.. is it a good price for a celeron laptop? btw here is the specs:

Processor Brand Intel® Celeron® M
Processor Speed 1.5GHz
Display Type WXGA widescreen with TruBrite technology (1280 x 768)Screen Size 14"
System Bus 400MHz
Cache Memory 1MB on die Level 2
System Memory (RAM) 512MB
System Memory (RAM) Expandable To 1.5GB
Type of Memory (RAM) PC2700 DDR SDRAM
Hard Drive Type EIDE (5400 rpm)
Hard Drive Size 80GB
Optical Drive Double-layer DVD±RW/CD-RW
Optical Drive Speeds 2.4x DVD+R DL; 8x4x8 DVD-RW; 8x4x8 DVD+RW; 5x DVD-RAM; 24x10x24 CD-RW
Graphics Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 900
Video Memory Up to 128MB (shared)
Modem 56 Kbps* ITU V.92 *Capable of receiving 56 Kbps downloads. However, current regulations limit download speed to 53 Kbps.
Networking Marvell 10/100Base-TX Ethernet LAN (RJ-45 connector)
Wireless Networking Built-in Atheros wireless LAN (802.11b/g)
S-Video Outputs 1
Audio Realtek ALC250 software sound; AC '97-compatible; DirectSound, Direct 3D Sound, Direct Music, MIDI (playback) support; 16-bit stereo
Speakers Built-in stereo
PCMCIA Slots 1 Type II
USB 2.0 Ports 4
Notebook Weight Thin and light (4.5 to 6 lbs.)
Battery Type Lithium-ion
Pointing Device Touchpad
Operating System Windows XP Home SP2
Included Software Microsoft Works, Office OneNote; InterVideo WinDVD 5; Sonic RecordNow! Basic, Drive Letter Access and more

topnotch97

Sep 13, 2005, 02:45 AM

fairly decent price for a laptop. not bad.

but for 4.5 to 6 lbs? OUCH!!!!! my back hurts!!!

i was at CompUSA yesterday and they have an Avaratech laptop. and the size is nice.

gUy^

Sep 13, 2005, 07:30 AM

yeah, pero nsa 5lbs lang sya.. maganda ** avaratech pero nong nabasa ko reviews nagdalawang isip ako. ganda sana..

iceph36

Sep 18, 2005, 08:14 PM

Is the ECS brand of notebooks good? i'm planning to buy one.

and i heard that there are customized laptops now available in g1lm@re, id it true and are they advisable?

topnotch97

Sep 20, 2005, 03:15 AM

i dunno why they call it customized.... when they are really swaping hardware. :lol: after all, they're all OEMs.. :lol:

tem0618

Sep 21, 2005, 07:30 AM

good day,

i have a question. If i order a laptop computer from the states and have it shipped here by letsay dhl, ups or fedex. will i be taxed?

thanks for any suggestio

topnotch97

Sep 21, 2005, 12:46 PM

^^ you might as well buy it in the Philippines. kahit sabihin natin na mas "cheaper," it's not worth it. so my suggestion is to purchase it in the Philippines.

if you know anyone in the states, i suggest you ask them to send it to you via "hand carried." or just head to the states and buy it from there.

just take note that the laptops that are being on "sale" are usually those that are needed to remove it from stocks.... so that new and updated models would come it. that's the truth behind those "Sale" in the US. :D

tennister

Sep 21, 2005, 02:02 PM

Thanks to topnotch97 for pointing the way here...

I hope somebody can help me out. I'm planning to buy a Toshiba A80-C431 with the following specs:

Intel Celeron M 370 (1.5 GHz, 1MB L2 Cache, 400 MHz FSB)
256 MB DDR SDRAM (will upgrade to 512 MB)
40 GD HDD
CDRW/DVD Combo Drive
15.0" XGA TFT Display
Integrated Wireless 802.11b/g
ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 with up to 128 MB shared VRAM
SRS TruSurround XT sound technology with internal stereo speakers

I'll be using my laptop mostly for internet and word/spreadsheet processing. However I would also like to option of using it for some games. I'm not a hardcore 3D gamer, mostly I play games (on a desktop) like Sim City 4, Civ3, Neverwinter Nights, Diablo 2 etc... But will a laptop with the above video card be enough for my gaming needs? I don't know where the latest crop of games that fit my taste are going in terms of graphics needs, so I'm hoping somebody can help me out. Will this kind of system merely frustrate me if I do some gaming? How much worse off will I be if have a video card using shared memory instead of one with on-chip VRAM?

Thanks in advance to anyone who will give inputs.

palingenesis

Sep 22, 2005, 12:38 AM

hey guys! the compaq laptop that i got from the US 2 or 3 years ago broke down last month..the motherboard is damaged! so i have to buy another laptop..but the situation is, i couldn't buy an expensive one this time coz medyo bad shot na me **** sa parents ko, andami ko na nasisira & nananakaw na gamit kc..parang mga p60,000 below na lang ang pede kong bilhin..i don't care about the design or the weight, all i care about is the features.. here's what i've found so far na ok *****.. pls give your comments..& pls recommend other models as well (*** p60,000 below sana na intel centrino ha)..I NEED A NEW LAPTOP ASAP! as in now! i'm starting my thesis na computer-aided instruction this term..i need lotsa ram & memory i guess..

i know this (APEX DL71) doesn't have a "trusted" brand name, but i'm really short in budget..is this one ok? also, meron pa me iba nahanap (andami nila)..please check them out..which one should i buy (yung iba kc may licensed Windows XP na agad, *** iba naman ***, *** iba ren may freebies, *** iba wala)? or do you have other laptops to recommend? thanks! (sorry if this post is long ok..my apologies..i have to buy a new laptop now!!!) - don't tell me to have someone to buy me nlng from the US coz i really need it urgently...thanks! i need a laptop that's FAST (even with lotsa engineering & programming software installed & run at the same time), has lotsa STORAGE SPACE & RELIABLE...and less than P60,000..

11) APEX DL71 - SONOMA CORE
Specifications:
• Intel® Centrino™ Mobile Technology
- Intel® Pentium® M Processor 740 (1.73GHz / 2Mb /533MHz)
- Intel® PRO/Wireless Network 802.11b/g
- Intel® 915GM Express Chipset
• 1Gb DDR333 SODIMM Memory
• 15.4in. WXGA+ TFT LCD Monitor
• Intel® GMA 900 (shares up to 128Mb VRAM!!!)
• 100Gb Hard Disk Drive
• DVD+CDRW Combo Drive
• 56Kb Modem
• 10/100/1000Mbps Gigabit LAN
• SD/MMC/MS Card Reader
• (3) USB 2.0 ports
• Firewire port
• VGA-Out
• S-Video TV-Out
• Built-In TV Tuner with Remote Control (optional)
• Li-Ion Battery
• Carrying Case
• Weight: 2.87 Kgs.
PRICE: Php 59,588.00

2) COMPAQ PRESARIO V1003 CENTRINO NOTEBOOK
FREE: Samsonite carrying bag
Specifications: Demo unit. . .
• Intel® Centrino™ Mobile Technology
• Intel® Pentium® M Processor 1.4GHz
• Intel® Pro/Wireless 2100 (802.11b) wireless networking
• 256Mb Memory
• 15in. XGA TFT Active Matrix Display
• 40Gb Hard Disk Drive
• Intel® Extreme Graphics 2
• Slot for SD/MMC Memory Card
• USB 2.0 ports available
• JBL Pro Speakers and 16-bit Sound Card
• 10/100Mbps LAN Controller
• 56Kbps V.90 Fax Modem
• DVD / CD Writer Combo Multibay Drive (Hot Swappable)
• Li-ION battery pack
• Samsonite Notebook Case
• Optical Mini Mouse
• Licensed Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
Price: Php 54,888.00

3)ASUS A3000 VALUE NOTEBOOK
Asus A3000 Value Notebook
“cheapest Asus A3000 ”
Asus A3000 Dothan Core
Intel® Pentium® M 725
Intel® 855GME chipset
shared 64Mb Video setup
1.6GHz / 400MHz / 2Mb L2 cache
512Mb DDR-SDRAM
40Gb Mobile HDD
Wi-Fi G embedded - 54Mbps
14in. TFT Screen
DVD+CDRW Combo Drive
56Kb Modem + 10-100Mbps LAN
Microsoft® Windows® XP Home (30D)
Free Access Point. . . .Asus WL330
Price: Php 59,888.00

4) ASUS A3000N DOTHAN NOTEBOOK (No Web-Cam)
Asus A3000N Notebook (No Web-Cam)
Specifications:
• Intel® Centrino™ Mobile Technology
• Intel® Pentium® M processor 715
- 1.50GHz, 2Mb L2 Cache
• 256Mb DDR266 SODIMM
• 14.1in. XGA Active Matrix Color TFT LCD
• Intel® 855GM Embedded Graphics
• 40Gb Hard Disk Drive
• CD-RW/DVD-ROM Combo Drive
• 802.11b/g Wireless LAN (54Mbps)
• 56Kbps V.90 Data/Fax Modem
• 10/100Mbps LAN
• 4 x USB 2.0 Ports
• IEEE 1394 port (Firewire)
• Built-In WebCam - optional Model . . .
• Multiple Card Reader: SD/MMC/MS/MS PRO
• Audio DJ
• Li-ION Battery Pack
• Weight: 2.47Kgs.
• Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
• FREE:
- Lexmark Z515 Printer
- Carrying Case
- Trend PC-Cillin Anti-Virus
Price: Php 59,888.00

5) ECS G220 DOTHAN NOTEBOOK
ECS G220 Dothan Notebook
Specifications:
Intel® Centrino™ Mobile Technology
Intel® Pentium® M 725 - 1.6GHz / 2Mb / Dothan
40Gb HDD
256Mb DDR SODIMM
COMBO(DVD/CDR-W)
12.1in. XGA TFT
32Mb SMA shared up to 64mb
AC97 2.2, 2 Built-in Stereo Speakers
MDC Fax/Modem V.90/V.92 + 802.11b on board
10/100Mbps Base-T LAN on board
3 USB 2.0, 1 Type II PCMCIA Slot,
4 in 1 Card Reader, VGA Port, Mic-In
Touch Pad Synaptics w/Scrolling Button(4-way)
3-Cell Li-Ion Battery, 2kgs.
E-Mail, Internet by Hot Keys
Price: Php 54,588.00

6) ECS G553 DOTHAN NOTEBOOK
Cheapest and fastest Dothan powered Mobile PC in town. . .
Specifications:
Technology: Intel® Centrino™ Mobile Technology
Processor: Intel® Pentium® M 735 - 1.7GHz / 2Mb L2 cache / Dothan
Chipset: Intel® 855GM (Centrino technology)
Memory: 512Mb DDR (SODIMM)
Display: 14.1in. XGA TFT LCD
Video: Built-in 3D graphics (Intel)
Harddisk: 40Gb 2.5in. mobile harddisks
Optical drive: DVD+CDRW Combo Drive !
Sound: Built-in stereo speakers (5.1 channel support)
Communications: Built-in Modem, Built-in LAN
PC Card slot: Type II PCMCIA slot, supports CardBus
Ports: 2 USB 2.0, 1 VGA out, 1 S-Video out, 1 FIR, 1 Parallel, 1 Firewire
Pointing Device: TouchPad with 4-way scroll button
AC Adapter: 65 Watts
Battery: Li-ion Battery
imensions (L x W x H): 326mm. x 258mm. x 25.3mm.
Weight: Around 2.3kgs.
Optional: External USB Floppy drive
Price: Php 49,888.00

7) ECS G558 SONOMA NOTEBOOK
ECS G558 Sonoma Notebook
ECS G558 Sonoma Notebook
Intel® Centrino™ Mobile Technology
Intel® Pentium® M Processor 730
1.60GHz / 2Mb / Sonoma
Intel® 2915ABG
256Mb Memory DDR-SDRAM
15in. XGA / TFT Active Matrix Display
40Gb Hard Disk Drive
Intel® GMA900 up to 128Mb
DVD+CDRW Combo Drive
USB 2.0 Ports
10/100Mbps LAN Controller
Built-in speakers/16-bit Sound Card
56Kbps V.90 Fax Modem
Li-ION battery pack
Price: Php 49,488.00

8) MSI MEGABOOK M520 (MS-1016 V1.0) - SONOMA CORE
MSI Megabook M520 (MS-1016 version 1.0) - Sonoma Grade
MSI Megabook M520 Value (MS-1016 version 1.0) - Sonoma Grade
Intel® Centrino™ Mobile Technology
Intel® Pentium® M 730 (Sonoma 1.60GHz / 2Mb L2 Cache / 533MHz FSB)
Intel® 915GM + ICH6-M
Intel® PRO Wireless 802.11BG
512Mb (Max: 2Gb)
15in. TFT XGA Widescreen
Intel 915GM, support Direct X9 (Integrated Graphics) 1280 x 800
40Gb Mobile Hard Drive
DVD+/-RW Dual / Double Layer - WOW Factor !!!!
3 x USB 2.0
VGA Out x 1
3in1 Card Reader
1x TypeII PCMCIA
56Kb modem
10/100Mbps LAN
Headphone jack; Microphone jack
Li-ION battery up to 2.0 hours
Mega Targus
Microsoft® Windows® XP Home - 30D Trial Version
Price: Php 53,888.00

9) PRESTIGIO INFINITY A1556 CENTRINO NOTEBOOK
Best Valued Centrino NoteBook !!!
Specifications:
PM-FC2SA1556GLCB-M15
• Intel® Centrino™ Mobile Technology
• Intel® Pentium® M 1.5GHz with 1Mb L2 Cache
• 256Mb DDR SODIMM Memory
• 15in. TFT LCD Display
• 40Gb Hard Disk
• Intel® 855-GM Graphics 4x AGP Video with Intel® DVMT (8~64Mb shared memory)
• CD-RW/DVD-ROM Combo Drive
• 10/100Mbps LAN
• 802.11b Wireless LAN
• 56Kbps V.90 Fax Modem
• PCMCIA Slot
• Memory Card Reader
Infrared port
• 2 x USB 2.0 ports
• Li-ION battery pack
• Weight: 2.5Kgs.
Php 49,888.00

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Prestigio AU1223 is a bright new addition to the series of latest Prestigio high-performance notebooks. The new elegant model can boast of an enhanced resolution of WXGA 1200x800, and is targeted to frequent travelers who need a light but functional.
Specifications:
PM-FC2SAU1223WCB-M17
• Intel® Centrino™ Mobile Technology
• Intel® Pentium® M 735 (1.7GHz with 2Mb L2 Cache / Dothan)
• 512Mb DDR SODIMM Memory - - - - Super WOW !
• 12.1in. WXGA LCD Display
• 40Gb Hard Disk
• Intel® 855-GM Graphics 4x AGP Video with Intel® DVMT (8~64Mb shared memory)
• DVD-Recorder
• 10/100Mbps LAN
• 802.11bg Wireless LAN
• 56Kbps V.90 Fax Modem
• PCMCIA Slot
• Li-ION battery pack (5hrs.)
• Weight: 1.8Kgs. - - - - Super WOW !
Php 58,888.00

11) PRESTIGIO LITE M120C DOTHAN NOTEBOOK
Prestigio M120C is a bright new addition to the series of latest Prestigio high-performance notebooks. The new elegant model can boast of an enhanced resolution of WXGA 1200x800, and is targeted to frequent travelers who need a light but functional.
Specifications:
PM-FC2SM120CCB-M17
• Intel® Centrino™ Mobile Technology
Intel® Pentium® M 735 (1.7GHz with 2Mb L2 Cache / Dothan)
• 256Mb DDR SODIMM Memory
• 12.1in. WXGA LCD Display
• 40Gb Hard Disk
• Intel® 855-GM Graphics 4x AGP Video with Intel® DVMT (8~64Mb shared memory)
• CD-RW/DVD-ROM Combo Drive
• 10/100 Mbps LAN
• 802.11bg Wireless LAN
• 56Kbps V.90 Fax Modem
• PCMCIA Slot
• Built-in Web Camera
• Li-ION battery pack (5hrs.)
• Weight: 1.8Kgs. - - - - Super WOW !
Php 49,888.00

12) AOPEN M1551AG DOTHAN NOTEBOOK
AOpen M1551AG Dothan Notebook
Specifications:
• Intel® Centrino™ Mobile Technology
• Intel® Pentium® M Processor 725 (1.6GHz / 2Mb / Dothan)
• Intel® Pro/Wireless 2200 (802.11bg) wireless networking
• 256Mb DDR333 / PC2700 SO-DIMM Memory
• 12.1in. WXGA TFT Active Matrix Display
• 40Gb Hard Disk Drive
• Intel® Extreme Graphics 2
• USB 2.0 ports available
• Built-in speakers and 16-bit Sound Card
• 10/100Mbps LAN Controller
• 56Kbps V.90 Fax Modem
• DVD+CDRW Combo Drive
• Li-Ion battery pack
• Notebook Case
• Optical Mini Mouse
Php 55,888.00

13) TWINHEAD EFIO! E12B-624 CENTRINO NOTEBOOK
The lightest featherweight Twinhead available. . . .
Specifications:
Processor - Intel® Centrino™ Mobile Technology / Intel® Pentium® M 725 (1.6GHz / 2Mb / Dothan)
O.S. - Microsoft® Windows® XP Home
Memory - 256Mb DDR SDRAM
Video - on board
Audio system - on board
Display - 12.1in. XGA TFT LCD (WOW !!!)
Harddrive - 40Gb Harddrive
Optical Drive - DVD Combo installed
Modem - 56Kb Modem
Mouse Device - Touch Pad
Weight - Extra Light Weight
Battery - Extended Life
Thermal - New 3D Thermal Dissipation
Wi-Fi - 802.11bg Wireless LAN
Optional - Bluetooth and GPRS
Software - Nero V6.0 / PowerDVD
Optional - Floppy Drive External
Php 58,888.00

14) Apex CL5115 – VALUE CENTRINO™
Intel® Centrino™ Mobile Technology
Intel® Pentium® M 725 (1.6GHz, 400MHz, 2Mb L2)
Intel® 855GME chipset
Intel PRO/Wireless LAN 2200BG - 54Mbps
shared 64Mb Video setup
256Mb DDR-SDRAM
40Gb Mobile HDD
Wi-Fi G embedded - 54Mbps
15in. TFT Screen
DVD+CDRW Combo Drive
56Kb Modem + 10-100Mbps LAN
NO - Microsoft® Windows® XP Home
Php 42,388.00

15) APEX FL31 - SONOMA CORE
Intel® Centrino™ Mobile Technology
Intel® Pentium® M Processor 740
1.73GHz / 2Mb / 533MHz / Sonoma
Intel® 915GM chipset
Internal Intel 802.11 a/b/g Wireless LAN (Intel 2915ABG)
512Mb Memory DDR1
14in. WXGA / TFT Active Matrix Display
40Gb Hard Disk Drive
----------------*****----------------
Intel® GMA900 up to 128Mb VRAM
----------------*****----------------
DVD+CDRW Combo Drive
USB 2.0 Ports
10/100Mbps LAN Controller
Built-in speakers/16-bit Sound Card
56Kbps V.90 Fax Modem
Li-ION battery / Web-Camera
Microsoft® Windows® XP Home (30D)
Php 59,888.00

16) APEX M120 - VALUE CENTRINO™
New Dothan Upgraded !!!. . . .
Apex Notes / M120 chassis
Intel® Centrino™ Mobile Technology
Intel® Pentium® M Processor 725
(1.6GHz, 2Mb L2 cache, 400MHz FSB)
Intel® 855GM Chipset
Intel® PRO/Wireless 2200BG LAN 3B Mini PCI Adapter
512Mb DDR RAM
40Gb Harddrive
DVD-Recorder
56Kb modem
10/100 Ethernet LAN
2xUSB 2.0
12in. WXGA TFT Screen (1280x1024)
Built-in Webcam
Infra-red / Bluetooth
Approx. 2.00Kgs.
8-cell battery installed (5.5hrs.)
Carry case
Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition - optional
Php 59,888.00

17) IBM THINKPAD R40 (AA3) CENTRINO NOTEBOOK
The IBM ThinkPad R40 notebooks deliver exceptional processing power at affordable prices.
Specifications: repriced. . . .
Processor -
Intel® Centrino™ Mobile Technology , Intel® Pentium® M 1.4GHz
O.S. - Microsoft® Windows® XP Home
Memory - 256Mb PC2100 DDR SDRAM
Video - ATI Mobility™ RADEON® 16Mb DDR
Audio System - on board
Display - 15in. XGA TFT LCD
Harddrive - 40Gb Harddrive
Optical Drive - DVD Combo Drive
Modem / LAN - 56Kb Modem / 10-100Mbps
Mouse Device - TrackPoint and UltraNav
Weight - 2.8kgs.
Battery - Li-ION battery pack / 6hrs.
Warranty - One year parts and labor limited warranty
FREE: (While Stock Last) IBM Carrying Case / IBM Optical Mouse
6 Months Thinkpad Insurance
Php 59,888.00

18) BLUE ARGON
Blue Argon - 14in. Wide Sonoma + DDR2 !!!
Blue Argon - 14in. Wide Sonoma + DDR-II !!!
Intel® Centrino™ Mobile Technology
Intel® Pentium® M 740 (1.73GHz)- Sonoma Core !
Intel® 915GM and ICH6M chipset
533MHz FSB (Front Side Bus)
Intel® Pro/Wireless 2915ABG Wi-Fi
14.1in. Wide XGA LCD display (1280x1024)
Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator - up to 128Mb shared
512Mb DDR-II SODIMM memory - Worth Noting !!!
Intel® Azalia 7.1ch audio
Combo drive (DVD-ROM / CD-RW)
60Gb mobile harddisk
4-in-1 card reader (MMC/ SD/ MS/ MS Pro)
3 USB 2.0 ports, Firewire, TV-out, Mic-in
PCMCIA Type II card slot, VGA port
56Kb modem V.92 and Gigabit LAN
6-cell lithium-ion battery (3.5 hours)
Dimensions (WxDxH): 335 x 240 x 33.1mm.
Weight: 2.3Kgs. (thin and light weight design)
Includes carrying bag
Php 59,888.00

19) BLUE HELIUM
Blue Helium - Super Lightweight !!!
Intel® Centrino™ Mobile Technology
Intel® Pentium® M 725(1.6GHz)
Intel® 855GME and ICH4M chipset
Intel® Pro/Wireless 2200BG Wi-Fi
12.1in. XGA LCD display (1024x768 resolution)
Intel® Extreme Graphics 2
256Mb DDR SODIMM memory
Combo drive (DVD-ROM / CD-RW)
40Gb mobile harddisk
3 USB 2.0 ports, Firewire, TV-out, Mic-in
PCMCIA Type II card slot, VGA port
56Kb modem V.92 and 10/100MBps LAN
6-cell lithium-ion battery (4.0 hours)
Dimensions (WxDxH): 283 x 238 x 34.3mm.
Weight: 2.2Kgs. (thin and light weight design)
Includes carrying bag
Php 53,888.00

20) BLUE NOVICE (Pentium® M - DIY)
Blue Novice - Intel® Pentium® M Config !
New Dothan Upgraded !!!. . . .
Blue Novice (Pentium® M - DIY)
Intel® Centrino™ Mobile Technology
Intel® Pentium® M Processor 725
(1.6GHz, 2Mb L2 cache, 400MHz FSB)
Intel® 855GM Chipset
Intel® Extreme GFX
Intel® PRO/Wireless 2200 LAN 3B Mini PCI Adapter
256Mb DDR RAM
40Gb Harddrive
DVD+Combo Drive
56Kb modem, 10/100Mbps LAN
3xUSB 2.0, 1x1394 Firewire
4-in-1 Memory Card Reader
15.4in. TFT WXGA Display
Approx. 2.85Kgs.
Carry case
Php 47,388.00

21) X-Mobile
X-Mobile DL7100 Sonoma System
Current Price: P 58,295.00
Intel Centrino Mobile Technology [DOTHAN],
Intel Pentium M Processor 730
(1.60GHz Processor, 2MB L2 Cache, 533mhz FSB),
Intel® 915GM Chipset
Intel PRO 2200BG (802.11b/g) MiniPCI Wireless LAN Module,
Intel GMA900 Display with 128mb memory (shared),
15.4" WXGA TFT LCD (1280 x 800), 80GB Hard Disk Drive,
512mb DDR333 SO-DIMM Memory (Expandable up to 2GB)
Combo Drive DVD-ROM/CDRW
10/100LAN, 56K Modem, 3xUSB, PCMCIA II, 1394, VGA, S-Video, SPDIF
4 in 1 Card Reader, 8 Cell Lithium-Ion Battery
360 (W)x 265 (D) x 32.2 (H) mm, 2.87Kg

THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE!

(P.S. My previous laptop was compaq presario 900..can i still re-use some of its parts? such as the ram perhaps? the hard drive (but the compaq center said that the hard drive has a bad sector)? video card? etc? and if ever, can i use these parts in other laptop brands? thanks a lot for the help!)

hunnyces

Sep 22, 2005, 10:53 AM

Can someone help me on this. I'll buy a laptop which I'll be using at school. Mostly I'l use MS application esp powerpoint presentation on my reports which will last up to 3 hrs. I also be working on some graphics editing using photoshop and internet most of the time; blutooth transfer.

Since i'm on a tight budget, i'm considering this:

http://www.openpinoy.com/shop/step1.php?number=96

Your comment is most appreciated.

topnotch97

Sep 22, 2005, 03:05 PM

^^ looking at the specs...

6gig HD?!!?!?! and with that price?!?!

forget it!

palingenesis

Sep 22, 2005, 09:17 PM

please reply naman to my post (#169) oh... i need to find a new laptop na ****!!! thanks!

topnotch97

Sep 23, 2005, 08:44 AM

palingenesis,
they're all decent laptops. the specs look alright, fit for "entry-level" laptop user.

typically the advice that i give to potential laptop buyers is to take advantage of specs that are affordable, fits your requirements, and light and portable!
why? you don't wanna carry something as heavy as PC. sometimes the PC weighs lighter in some sense. :lol:

my suggestion also, read the previous posts, from page 1. it will help you as much as you can decide what is decent and fits for you.

palingenesis

Sep 24, 2005, 08:55 AM

ok thanks.. topnotch.. other users, what are your suggestions?

CoolTOYZph

Sep 28, 2005, 12:39 AM

mostly I play games (on a desktop) like Sim City 4
- We have tested Sims on ATI9000 and was not happy with the performance. Sims requires dedicated Video based on previous experience.
Have not tried it on Intel900 graphic though which is rated higher than the ATI9000

@palingenesis,
8) MSI MEGABOOK M520 (MS-1016 V1.0) - SONOMA CORE
seems to be the best buy because of the Sonome Core and wide screen.
MSi based on experience has better support and RMA than Aopen
Next in line would be the IBM

@hunnyces,
Mostly I'l use MS application esp powerpoint presentation on my reports which will last up to 3 hrs. I also be working on some graphics editing using photoshop and internet most of the time; blutooth transfer.
- the Celeron 466 would be extremely slow for Powerpoint specially if you will be using a lot of graphics. Also not suitable for photoshop. The model does not have a bluetooth but of course you can use an external dongle. Lastly, do not expect to get 1.5hours on the laptop. for your requirement my opinion is this laptop will not suffice.

Hope this helps.

sum_gurl

Sep 28, 2005, 01:34 PM

hi! is this AMD Turion 64 bit processor all good? i read in some forums that it gets hot quickly, as compared to the Intel Pentium Centrino processor. Im asking this because im choosing between the Acer Ferrari 4005 model and the Fujitsu Lifebook S6240M. The acer runs using the AMD Turion processor. The ferrari also weighs a bit more (2.86kg). Pero sayang, ang ganda kasi ng specs compared to the lifebook. But the lifebook weighs so much less than the ferrari. What do you suggest? Which one is worth the price?

Acer Ferrari 4005WLMi
- Microsoft windows XP home
-AMD Turion 64ML-37 (2.0 GHz/1MB L2 Cache/400 MHz FSB)
-1 GB DDR RAM/100GB Hard Disk drive
-15.4" WSXGA + 185-nit color TFT LCD
-ATI Radeon X700 128MB Full Video Memory
-Integrated wireless LAN (802.11 b/g)
-10/100/1000 Mbps LAN
-Integrated Slot Load 8x Super-multi DVD Double layer drive
-Integrated bluetooth
-wireless bluetooth optical mouse
-with SVideo, firewire
-carbon filter coating
-8-Cell Li Ion battery pack
-weight: 2.86 Kgs
-price:P138,000

Fujitsu Lifebook S6240M
-Intel pentium M processor 740
(2MB L2 Cache, 1.73GHz,533Mhz FSB)
-Intel 915 GM Express Chipset
-1GB DDR2 533MHz Memory
-13.3" Superfine XGA TFT LCD Monitor
-80 GB HDD
-Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900
-56k Modem + 10/100 Mbps LAN
-802.11 a/b/g wireless LAN
-Double layer DVDRW multi drive
-3 USB ports 2.0, Firewire, svideo
-sd/ms pro card reader
-fingerprint recognition technology
-Windows XP home
-weight: 1.65 KGs
-price: P129900

CoolTOYZph

Sep 28, 2005, 08:23 PM

@sum_gurl,
there are two types of Turion Processors
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/Additional/33227A-1_Mobility_Performance_chart.gif
The 35W apparently overheats.
The 25W has been tested to be cool running and is found in the ultra portable models.
it maybe best to check what model Acer uses for the Ferrari.

You are choosing from two different laptops catergories.
The Acer is a Gaming Laptop
The Fujitsu is a Portable Business Laptop.

What will suit you better depends on the intended use of the Laptop? Are you a gamer or will be it be used for office/school works?

note: Neither is worth the Price indicated :rotflmao:

sum_gurl

Sep 29, 2005, 12:12 AM

Hi thanks cooltoyzph. i researched about the acer ferrari, and it turns out to be 35W...it overheats. hmm... :( actually, im torn between having a gaming laptop or just a portable one for school. because, the price difference is less than 10k, and i get all the gaming plus that ferrari offers.

hehehe, yeah, both are a bit pricey.

topnotch97

Sep 29, 2005, 12:58 AM

@sum_gurl

i think you're better off with a laptop just for your school needs. i think having a pc for gaming is best. besides don't mix pleasure with business, sige ka baka mahuli ka ng prof mo na naglalaro sa laptop mo. :D

jembo

Sep 29, 2005, 11:41 AM

ok ba *** msi m520? wala akong makita sa site ng msi mismo e. nang isearch ko sa google, barebone sya... sariling setup ng pccorner yata yang specs... pero ok ba *** brand? service, warranty?

how about the twinhead efios? ok ba *** form nya na maliit? magaganda kasi puro dvd writers ang kasama... matibay kaya?

and the neo brands? meron kasi silang affordable (not really... 80k)na may geforce go 6600 with ddr2 rams?

GOwin

Sep 29, 2005, 11:58 AM

re msi megabook m520
at 53,888.00, this sonoma lappie looks good. how do you intend to use it ba?

brandwise, i like msi. they have a popular following as a mainboard manufacturer and as an oem.

caveats for this model:

1. did you notice that the xp home os that's bundled with is a 30-day trial version? should be a concern for you.
2. 2 hour battery life is kinda short for a notebook.

jembo

Sep 29, 2005, 12:11 PM

*** mga xp home bundles... majority sa mga binebentang laptops ngayon are 30 day trials diba?

gusto ko rin *** msi m520. battery life... hmm.. parang kadalasan yata nakaplug ako paggagamitin ko sya. home - office kumbaga... siguro *** outdoors medyo bihira... so mukhang ok na siguro *** 2hrs.

san ba available to? pccorner lang ba?

GOwin

Sep 29, 2005, 12:16 PM

check mo rin online sa villman.com or cooltoyzph.com.

jembo

Sep 29, 2005, 12:43 PM

tumingin ako sa villman.. tumawag na rin ako.. wala sila nung m520

anyway... may mga nakita akong vpc notebooks... villman products un diba? ok kaya sila? better than neo brands kaya?

topnotch97

Sep 29, 2005, 12:59 PM

kung ako sa iyo, kunin mo lang yung notebooks na babagay sa pag-gagamitan mo. if you can do away with a DVD+RW then stick to a regular drive. just remember the concept of notebooks is mobility. mahirap ata yan kung parang buong PC mo ay karga mo.

palingenesis

Sep 29, 2005, 05:26 PM

as you might have read in my other post, my previous laptop's system board broke down & its hard drive has a bad sector, according to the HP Center in ayala.. i removed the hard drive from the unit & tried to retrieve my files using the USB External hard drive case.. all of the files were retrieved except for my documents (the ones in "My Documents")..when i tried to access them via the user account folder, there was a window that told me i could not access the files.. some1 told me to use the quota management feature (w/c u can find when u click the properties of the hard drive), but i cudn't still access the files... do you know just how to retrieve the files? all i know is that i cud not access the files becoz my past laptop is password-protected.. thanks!

CoolTOYZph

Sep 29, 2005, 06:03 PM

RE: msi megabook m520
I checked with the distro and the model is NOT sold locally.
Must be a direct import...

jembo

Sep 29, 2005, 06:15 PM

re: msi megabook m520

is that a bad sign? pagnasira... dadalin sa taiwan.. wait for months for replacement..

jembo

Sep 29, 2005, 07:30 PM

heto from villman

Acer TravelMate 2413NLCi Notebook PC
P 39,900

Specifications:

• Intel Celeron M Processor 370

- 1MB L2 Cache, 1.50 GHz, 400MHz FSB

• Intel 910GML Express Chipset

• 256MB DDR2 533MHz Memory

• 15" XGA TFT LCD Monitor

• Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900 with DVMT

• 40GB Hard Disk Drive

• CD-RW/DVD-ROM Combo Drive

• 802.11b/g Wireless LAN (54 Mbps)

• 10/100 Mbps LAN

• 56Kbps Fax Modem

• Ergonomic Keypad

• Li-Ion battery pack

• Linux Operating System

• Weight: 2.9 Kgs.

• FREE: Acer Scroll Mouse

mabigat ba 2.9 kg?

CoolTOYZph

Sep 29, 2005, 09:32 PM

Jembo, given the DDR2 + 910GML chipset that appears to be a very good buy at the Price point. Things to watch out for would be the clarify of the display(Acer is notorius for Dead pixels) and the feel of the keyboard. I do not know why Acer Keyboards have a funny "cheap" feel...

Currently the entry level champ is the NX6120 Celeron-M 1.3Ghz but it does not use DDR2 and goes for 42.5K. The plus for the NX6120 is 6-in-1 card reader and the serial port!

Looks like Acer will be putting up a good fight with this unit.
Hope you can give us your actual review of this model.

jembo

Sep 30, 2005, 02:27 AM

mauutilize ba ng system *** pagiging ddr2 nya with the shared video memory and the celeron m processor?

anyway sige check ko if ever ok *** acer.

how about those villman branded vpc notebooks? good ba sila?

palingenesis

Sep 30, 2005, 08:24 PM

i'm so frustrated when i've learned that the msi m520 sonoma core is not yet available in the philippines (as what cooltoyz posted).. i called 2 pc corner shops & they told me that they have it..and yet, after calling them again, they said it was all but false alarm!

palingenesis

Sep 30, 2005, 08:37 PM

hey guys, i'll be buying an acer travelmate 2mrw... it's OS is Linux.. how do i convert to windows xp professional? do i simply insert the cd & reboot?

CoolTOYZph

Oct 1, 2005, 02:20 AM

@palingenesis, just got updated info.
1. before buying that Acer - ask what is the battery capacity. If it is 4-cells expect only 1.5hour battery life. Best to ask if your vendor can customize to 6cell/8cell battery to get at least 3 hours...

2. Visit the Acer website and verify if the model has Win Xp driver support. You will need this if reinstalling another OS from what is originally supplied.

hope the new info is not too late...

palingenesis

Oct 4, 2005, 01:09 PM

thanks cooltoyz..well yeah iv already bought the acer travelmate before i got to read your post..anyway thanks for the help..i have no problem w/ the laptop now..the only thing that worries me is that if it overheats... what's the best thing to do kaya? laptop cooler? stand? where do i buy those? hopefully *** cheap lang...

int_21

Oct 4, 2005, 03:15 PM

if you will use application such as autocad and photoshop, you need 1 gig of ram SINCE YOU BUDGET is 60000 try the asus laptops. ok na *** 40GB 1.6GHZ processor, basta intel chipset ha. ang autocad 2006 ay nangangailangan ng 512 MB of RAM, kaya *** 256 pero mahihirpan sa pagamit nun. dpaat malaki ang RAM mo..

topnotch97

Oct 4, 2005, 03:26 PM

max out the RAM as much as you can. who knows later on, you might need the juice. :D

CoolTOYZph

Oct 4, 2005, 07:38 PM

i have no problem w/ the laptop now..the only thing that worries me is that if it overheats...
- it should not overheat as the processor is a Celeron-M.

Worse case get the speedballs.
http://www.postworx.com/addictbook.jpg
Based on testing the cooler fans actually produce more heat than cool the laptop because the power source is from the Laptop USB port which takes power from the Laptop power source.

Please post your review of the unit. Thank You.

laptopboy2005

Oct 4, 2005, 10:43 PM

i just wanna ask. i have this laptop LG LM50 which i bought in canada. the battery life before used to last up to 8 hours but not it's only 1 hour. i don't know what happen. if ever i have it repacked, will i get the same 8 hours life i used to before...?

topnotch97

Oct 5, 2005, 03:10 AM

@CoolTOYZph
meron ba kayo niyan? the speedball, i mean.

frankies

Oct 5, 2005, 06:26 AM

cooltoyz, mastercard lang ba pwede sa inyo o pwede rin ibang cresir card like visa or american express?

palingenesis

Oct 5, 2005, 02:40 PM

Hey cooltoyz, here are the specs of the laptop.. i already upgraded the RAM to 512 MB and converted my OS to windows xp, w/ all the drivers included. yeah i think those speedballs are great..but aren't those for apple laptops only ? would they be ok for other laptop brands? how much are the speedballs? do we have a cheaper alternative to speedballs? thanks

Model: Travelmate TM2319NLCi
Operating System: Linux Operating System
Processor: Intel Pentium M Processor 725 - 1.6Ghz, 400MHz FSB

Processor Type: Dothan Processor
L2 Cache: 2 MB L2 Cache
Chipset: SiS M661MX chipset
Memory: DDR 256MB (1 pc. 256 MB memory for 1 slot)
Memory Slots : 2 slots, Upgradable to 1GB
Memory Type: DDR 333
Display Video: 15.0" XGA TFT LCD, 1024x768, 16.7M colours
Video Type: SiS M661MX integrated 3D graphics
Video Memory: Up to 64MB Shared Memory
Hard Disk Drive: 40GB HDD
Floppy Drive: No Floppy Drive ( *Optional External USB Floppy Drive )
Optical Drive: Integrated 8x DVD + 24x CDRW Combo Drive
Optical Drive Speed: Read: 24X CD-ROM, 24X CD-R, 24X CD-RW, 8X DVD-ROM, 8X DVD-R,
4X DVD-RW, 8X DVD+R, 4X DVD+RW Write: 24X CD-R, 24X CD-RW
Weight: 2.76 kg ( 6.08lbs )
Dimension: 364 x 279 x 33.9/38.9 mm
Network Interface: Built-in 10/100 LAN, Built in 56k Modem
Wireless LAN: Integrated Wireless LAN 802.11b/g
Power Subsystem: 4 Cell Battery, 29W Li-Ion
2.0 hour Battery Life, 2.5 hours recharge time (power off)

Other Hardware:

I/O Ports:

* 3 USB 2.0 ports
* 1 Modem ( RJ-11 ) port
* 1 LAN ( RJ-45 ) port
* 1 Microphone/line-in jack
* 1 Headphones/external speakers/line-out port
* 1 VGA port
* 1 Type II PCMCIA Card slot
* 1 AC Adaptor port
* 1 slot for Kensington Lock

Special Features

* * Acer eManager Software ( eSettings, ePresentation, eRecovery )
* * Signal-Up Technology
( * Above Features mentioned are available once upgraded to Windows XP OS)

Inclusive Items

* Acer Carrying Bag
* Acer Resource CD (this CD includes Windows XP Drivers )

palingenesis

Oct 5, 2005, 02:41 PM

Hey cooltoyz, here are the specs of the laptop.. i already upgraded the RAM to 512 MB and converted my OS to windows xp, w/ all the drivers included..what i've noticed is that the keyboard & touchpad surface area gets quite hot when i'm using the unit..
yeah i think those speedballs are great..but aren't those for apple laptops only ? would they be ok for other laptop brands? how much are the speedballs? do we have a cheaper alternative to speedballs? thanks

Model: Travelmate TM2319NLCi
Operating System: Linux Operating System
Processor: Intel Pentium M Processor 725 - 1.6Ghz, 400MHz FSB

Processor Type: Dothan Processor
L2 Cache: 2 MB L2 Cache
Chipset: SiS M661MX chipset
Memory: DDR 256MB (1 pc. 256 MB memory for 1 slot)
Memory Slots : 2 slots, Upgradable to 1GB
Memory Type: DDR 333
Display Video: 15.0" XGA TFT LCD, 1024x768, 16.7M colours
Video Type: SiS M661MX integrated 3D graphics
Video Memory: Up to 64MB Shared Memory
Hard Disk Drive: 40GB HDD
Floppy Drive: No Floppy Drive ( *Optional External USB Floppy Drive )
Optical Drive: Integrated 8x DVD + 24x CDRW Combo Drive
Optical Drive Speed: Read: 24X CD-ROM, 24X CD-R, 24X CD-RW, 8X DVD-ROM, 8X DVD-R,
4X DVD-RW, 8X DVD+R, 4X DVD+RW Write: 24X CD-R, 24X CD-RW
Weight: 2.76 kg ( 6.08lbs )
Dimension: 364 x 279 x 33.9/38.9 mm
Network Interface: Built-in 10/100 LAN, Built in 56k Modem
Wireless LAN: Integrated Wireless LAN 802.11b/g
Power Subsystem: 4 Cell Battery, 29W Li-Ion
2.0 hour Battery Life, 2.5 hours recharge time (power off)

Other Hardware:

I/O Ports:

* 3 USB 2.0 ports
* 1 Modem ( RJ-11 ) port
* 1 LAN ( RJ-45 ) port
* 1 Microphone/line-in jack
* 1 Headphones/external speakers/line-out port
* 1 VGA port
* 1 Type II PCMCIA Card slot
* 1 AC Adaptor port
* 1 slot for Kensington Lock

Special Features

* * Acer eManager Software ( eSettings, ePresentation, eRecovery )
* * Signal-Up Technology
( * Above Features mentioned are available once upgraded to Windows XP OS)

Inclusive Items

* Acer Carrying Bag
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CoolTOYZph

Oct 5, 2005, 08:11 PM

CoolTOYZph

Oct 5, 2005, 08:13 PM

@CoolTOYZph
meron ba kayo niyan? the speedball, i mean.

Sir topnotch, we have sold out. But they sell these in Gilmore for around 800.00

CoolTOYZph

Oct 16, 2005, 10:41 AM

topnotch97

Oct 16, 2005, 02:01 PM

good thing my model was purchased before that duration. :D

topnotch97

Nov 9, 2005, 06:41 AM

okay laptop users! Black Friday Sale is just around the corner!

but you can visit the site here: http://www.bf2005.net/

some of the highlights:

Vaio Notebook (Pentium M 1.73ghz, DVD/CDRW, 512mb, 80gb)
Presario Notebook Computer (DVD/CDRW, 256mb DDR, 40gb) (AR)
iBook G4 Notebook
:eek: :bop:

.+ moks_mart +.

Nov 12, 2005, 03:07 AM

wow!

nice thread!

i've been looking for these thread for like 1 hour and thank god, finally found it! hehe! :glee:

daming infos! *okay*
but i need to read from page 1 para maka-relate.. hehe!

marco_1

Nov 12, 2005, 06:13 PM

mga pards, oks ba toshiba satellite, a80-4311?

topnotch97

Nov 13, 2005, 01:54 PM

mga pards, oks ba toshiba satellite, a80-4311?
it would be nice if you could just write down the specs here. then we'll see if it's good or not.

laptops are not cellphones, you know.

jisc

Nov 14, 2005, 10:07 AM

have guys seen these acer aspire 5502 wxmi? the price is below 75k but the specs are almost complete, 1.73 ghz (option to upgrade to 18, still below 75k), wifi, BT, infrared, 5 in 1 card reader, 64mb ATI Radeon x700. with all these specs other brands would easily price over 100k, but this acer is only below 75k, i mean there must be a catch to it, quality maybe? this is really tempting.

jisc

Nov 15, 2005, 03:26 PM

is acer or asus notebooks any good?

CoolTOYZph

Nov 15, 2005, 08:44 PM

Acer is good
Asus is expensive and good

Helmut

Nov 16, 2005, 02:03 PM

Cool thread.

I'm eyeing a laptop in Canada. My good friend will buy it for me and handcarry it when he comes home for the holidays.I have a week to decide and I still haven't researched about it. My good friend may need to order.I greatly appreciate your reviews, comments and opinions about the model.
I' going 64 bit with Acer and Turion. Well, here it is :

Acer Aspire 5002WLCi AMD Turion 64 ML-30 1.6GHz, Windows XP Home, 512MB SDRAM, 60GB HDD, CD-RW/DVD-ROM Combo Drive, 15.4" WXGA, SiSM760GX, 802.11b/g WLAN, 10/100 LAN, V.92 Modem

The complete Product Specifications:

Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition; AMD Turion™ 64 Mobile Technology ML-30 (1MB L2 cache, 1.60GHz, up to 1600MHz system bus); 512MB (256/256) DDR333 SDRAM; 60GB hard drive; integrated CD-RW/DVD-ROM combo drive); 15.4" WXGA (1280 x 800) TFT display with Acer® CrystalBrite Technology; SiSM760GX chipset with integrated Mirage™2 graphics; 802.11b/g WLAN, 10/100 LAN, V.92 modem

My good friend will buy it for me through this store:

http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=007690&cid=896

It's priced at CAD 888. Add 15% tax to that and it's CAD 1021.2.
The current exchange rate is around 1 CAD = 46.20 Php.
So it's priced at around Php 47,200.

Tell me what you think. The need's pretty urgent.
Reviews, comments, suggestions and opinions are highly appreciated.

CoolTOYZph

Nov 20, 2005, 10:41 AM

Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition; AMD Turion™ 64 Mobile Technology ML-30 (1MB L2 cache, 1.60GHz, up to 1600MHz system bus); 512MB (256/256) DDR333 SDRAM; 60GB hard drive; integrated CD-RW/DVD-ROM combo drive); 15.4" WXGA (1280 x 800) TFT display with Acer® CrystalBrite Technology; SiSM760GX chipset with integrated Mirage™2 graphics; 802.11b/g WLAN, 10/100 LAN, V.92 modem

You may want to research about the processor and video chipset.

A Turion MT is advised over the ML to avoid overheating.
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/Additional/33227A-1_Mobility_Performance_chart.gif

Re: Video Graphics. You may want to re-consider the SiS as this get hot quickly and does not have good reviews.

You may want to customize a Toshiba Satellite M40x with Centrino 730/740 + DDR2 should you need a 15.4"wide screen with TrueBrite technology

chedie

Nov 25, 2005, 03:45 PM

Hi! I would like to ask you guys for help. Could you please answer this survey I did online for a study I'm doing? This concerns laptop in the Philippines. I will truly appreciate it and be forever in your debt. *bows*

P.S. This survey is only for Filipinos in the Philippines. 

~ Chedie

http://www.geocities.com/alithea_a/laptop_survey.html

chedie

Nov 25, 2005, 03:50 PM

Helmut

Nov 25, 2005, 06:58 PM

Have given the go signal.Made some research.Processor temp is a concern, but it's really good value for money.

Final price is around CAD 1050 = PhP 48K+

Will keep you posted about the laptop.

darksyde

Nov 27, 2005, 01:04 PM

Is it still advisable to buy celeron M and pentium M based laptops? or should i wait for 64-bit laptops?

GOwin

Nov 27, 2005, 01:57 PM

go for 64-bit laptops if you want to future-proof your purchase.

otherwise celeron-m or pentium-m will do in most cases.

how do you intend to use it?

darksyde

Nov 27, 2005, 02:43 PM

go for 64-bit laptops if you want to future-proof your purchase.

otherwise celeron-m or pentium-m will do in most cases.

how do you intend to use it?

i was planning on using it for internet surfing, web design and development (photoshop, dreamweaver, flash) as well as some 3d games.

sum_gurl

Nov 30, 2005, 12:58 PM

regarding a laptop's battery, what is the best way to maintain it? i have asked several computer shops and repair centers and they give me conflicting answers. others say to completely drain the battery, and fully charge it once its empty. another said its advisable to keep it plugged in and not use the battery. right now, im following the latter advice. i just remove the battery and keep it plugged in when i have the chance. this is a Li-Ion battery btw.

mr. yotsuya

Nov 30, 2005, 02:41 PM

just bought mine. Acer Travelmate 4061WLMi
Its the only one that could fit my budget (around 50t pesos)

Pentium M 1.6 Ghz, 533 Mhz FSB, 2MB L2 cache
15.4" WXGA
Intel Graphics Accelerator 900. 128 MB shared
60 GB HDD
DVD-Dual double Layer
256 MB DDR2 upgraded to 512 MB
802.11 b/g,LAN Port,Modem, 3 USB ports

No bluetooth and card readers.

Couldn't find any reviews about this though before i bought it. Any other users out there? Any problems encountered?

CoolTOYZph

Dec 1, 2005, 11:48 PM

@sum_gurl, you are probably getting different feedbacks because of the different needs of different batteries.

Some good reading materials about laptop maintaining laptop batteries.
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-21.htm
and
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-23.htm

Hope this helps.

ShowMeTheMoney

Dec 4, 2005, 01:11 PM

Just wanted to pass on an information shared by another laptop user.

HP and the battery pack cell manufacturer have identified a defect in assembled battery packs manufactured between March 2004 and September 2004. HP considers the defect to pose a potential safety hazard to end users.

Yep. So those looking for a notebook this Xmas, take note. You might see a couple of these with seemingly good prices. And while you can contact HP and get a replacement, sometimes it's not worth the trouble.

Dear Customer,

Hewlett- Packard Company (HP) of Palo Alto, CA, in cooperation with the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC), announced the worldwide recall and replacement program for battery packs sold with certain HP laptop computers. HP and the battery cell manufacturer identified a defect in assembled packs manufactured between March 2004 and September 2004 for use with various HP and Compaq brand notebook computers. The recalled battery pack can overheat and create a hazard to consumers. The company has received 16 reports of the batteries’ overheating; four cases occurred in the U.S. The notebook computer is not affected by this recall.

The recalled lithium ion rechargeable battery packs are used in HP Pavilion, Compaq Presario, HP Compaq and Compaq Evo laptop computers. The recalled battery packs have a barcode label starting with GC, IA, L0, or L1

gUy^

Dec 4, 2005, 02:56 PM

mark_17

Dec 4, 2005, 04:10 PM

about acer, i have prob wd d processor speed. it keeps on changing, i dont know y but everytime i look at the system properties lagi sya nagbabago. dba dapat fixed *** yun. i called the technical support, pero amputa sagot sa akin is natural daw yun. ang bobo. ginawa pa akong *****. hehe kaya nag switch nalng ako sa toshiba:)

if your acer have a intel mobile processor, natural lang talaga yun na magbago yung processor speed... it's intel speed-step technology. it's purpose is to conserve battery when cpu is idle... you can set it to always max speed either in the bios or software utility.

iRebirth

Dec 4, 2005, 09:33 PM

MAC or Windows?

shnicky

Dec 12, 2005, 02:46 PM

Hi guys! I read all your posts today. It is a great help... really.
I would like to ask for your help regarding the specs of the laptop below if it is worth buying. I am considering Toshiba as my brand. Kindly post your comments or suggestions regarding the specs. Thank you very much!

Toshiba Satellite A80-P430
(PSA80L-05N003)
Intel Centrino Mobile Technology
Intel Pentium M Processor 739 (Sonoma)
(1.6Ghz, 2MB L2 Cache, 533Mhz FSB)
Intel 915GM Express Chipset
Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG 802.11
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Microsoft Office OneNote 2003
256MB DDR SODIMM
40GB Mobile Harddrive with shock absorber
CDRW + DVD-ROM (Combo Drive)
15" XGA TFT LCD w/ Clear SuperView Technology
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900
SRS TruSurround XT Sound Technology
3 x USB2.0, I-Link(IEEE 1394),
1 x S-Video out, 1 x TV-Out port

topnotch97

Dec 12, 2005, 09:37 PM

i'm just curious, are you a power user? like you use a lot of cpu and memory intensive programs and software. or are a you light user where the laptop is primarily used for office apps and all?

Hi guys! I read all your posts today. It is a great help... really.
I would like to ask for your help regarding the specs of the laptop below if it is worth buying. I am considering Toshiba as my brand. Kindly post your comments or suggestions regarding the specs. Thank you very much!

Toshiba Satellite A80-P430
(PSA80L-05N003)
Intel Centrino Mobile Technology
Intel Pentium M Processor 739 (Sonoma)
(1.6Ghz, 2MB L2 Cache, 533Mhz FSB)
Intel 915GM Express Chipset
Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG 802.11
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Microsoft Office OneNote 2003
256MB DDR SODIMM
40GB Mobile Harddrive with shock absorber
CDRW + DVD-ROM (Combo Drive)
15" XGA TFT LCD w/ Clear SuperView Technology
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900
SRS TruSurround XT Sound Technology
3 x USB2.0, I-Link(IEEE 1394),
1 x S-Video out, 1 x TV-Out port

shnicky

Dec 13, 2005, 06:54 AM

topnotch97: I usually use the computer for desktop publshing, image editing, and CAI developer. :) i think im using it in a medium scale. do you think it is okay? or i can go less? thanks a lot!

gUy^

Dec 13, 2005, 08:09 AM

ey guys how much ko pwede benta to dto sa pinas to? more than 2month old palang sariwang sariwa pa..

Toshiba M55-S135 Satellite
Celeron® M processor 30 (1.50GHz),
1gb of DDR SDRAM pc2700,
80GB 5400RPM hard drive.
14.0" WXGA display features TruBrite™ and TFT active matrix technologies
S-video
PC-card slot
DVD SuperMulti drive DVD+/-R/RW/CD-RW capability
ATI Mobility™ Radeon® Express 900 graphics card and built-in stereo Integrated 802.11g/b wireless technology
Four USB 2.0 ports

@mark_17, yung acer ng aunti ko is amd sempron 3000+, ganon pala yun sa intel, paano namn sa amd?

chedie

Dec 15, 2005, 03:19 PM

Hypothetically, paano pag may nakita kayong laptop with these following specs, tapos ang price niya ay around 60,000.00 pesos, kakagat ka ba? ^^ Bibilhin mo ba? Would you even consider buying it regardless of the other laptop brands in the market if you had the money? ^^

SPECS:

~ Intel Centrino Mobile Technology
(Intel Pentium M Processor 740)
(2MB L2 cache, 1.73 Ghz, 533MHz FSB)
(Intel 915GM chipset)
(Intel ProWireless b/g)
~ Microsoft Windoes XP Home Edition
~ 256MB DDR2 Memory
~ 40GB Hard Drive
~ 14" Widescreen WXGA TFT Display
~ CD Burner / DVD-ROM Combo Drive
~ Integrated Web Camera
~ LAN
~ Integrated 56K Modem
~ USB
~ 4 in 1 Memory Card Reader
~ 6 cell Lithium Ion Battery (up to 4 hours battery life)
~ Weighs approx 2.2Kgs.
~ Carry case

How about this for 70,000.00???
~ Intel Centrino Mobile Technology
(Intel Pentium M Processor 740)
(2MB L2 cache, 1.73 Ghz, 533MHz FSB)
(Intel 915GM chipset)
(Intel ProWireless b/g)
~ Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
~ 256MB DDR2 Memory
~ 40GB Hard Drive
~ 12.1" Widescreen WXGA TFT Display
~ CD / DVD Burner
~ Integrated Web Camera (1.3 Megapixels)
~ LAN
~ Integrated 56K Modem
~ USB
~ 4 in 1 Memory Card Reader
~ 4 cell Lithium Ion Battery (up to 3 hours battery life)
~ Weighs approx 1.8 Kgs
~ Carry case

maxelyjr

Dec 21, 2005, 10:04 AM

benta mo sa kin pre ng mura bibilhin ko. :p kunin ko ng 20k

ey guys how much ko pwede benta to dto sa pinas to? more than 2month old palang sariwang sariwa pa..

Toshiba M55-S135 Satellite
Celeron® M processor 30 (1.50GHz),
1gb of DDR SDRAM pc2700,
80GB 5400RPM hard drive.
14.0" WXGA display features TruBrite™ and TFT active matrix technologies
S-video
PC-card slot
DVD SuperMulti drive DVD+/-R/RW/CD-RW capability
ATI Mobility™ Radeon® Express 900 graphics card and built-in stereo Integrated 802.11g/b wireless technology
Four USB 2.0 ports

@mark_17, yung acer ng aunti ko is amd sempron 3000+, ganon pala yun sa intel, paano namn sa amd?

gUy^

Dec 21, 2005, 12:35 PM

maxelyjr, thanx for ur offer pero tatago ko nalng to sa baol hehe

tykemeister

Dec 21, 2005, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by shnicky
Help!

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Hi guys! I read all your posts today. It is a great help... really.
I would like to ask for your help regarding the specs of the laptop below if it is worth buying. I am considering Toshiba as my brand. Kindly post your comments or suggestions regarding the specs. Thank you very much!

Toshiba Satellite A80-P430
(PSA80L-05N003)
Intel Centrino Mobile Technology
Intel Pentium M Processor 739 (Sonoma)
(1.6Ghz, 2MB L2 Cache, 533Mhz FSB)
Intel 915GM Express Chipset
Intel PRO Wireless 2200BG 802.11
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Microsoft Office OneNote 2003
256MB DDR SODIMM
40GB Mobile Harddrive with shock absorber
CDRW + DVD-ROM (Combo Drive)
15" XGA TFT LCD w/ Clear SuperView Technology
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900
SRS TruSurround XT Sound Technology
3 x USB2.0, I-Link(IEEE 1394),
1 x S-Video out, 1 x TV-Out port

You might want to:
1. Increase the ram to at least 512 mb or even higher. Image and video editing software take-up a lot of ram, so with more ram you’ll be more productive
2. Xga screen resolution? Wxga would be better but at least the laptop has superview. Get something with wideview. 17 inch would be good if you have a car. If you commute a lot then stick with the 15 inch
3. Intel GMA 900 - delivers very average image rendering, not good for games, pictures or movies. Get something with Nvidia or Ati. If your budget can accomodate it, you might want to get something with an Ati x700 128 mb graphics card

4. How many rpm's does the hard drive have? 5400 rpm would be good.
5. You might want to increase the hard drive capacity to 60 gb or more so you can store more pictures, videos and other files

You can get a very good laptop in the States. Right now prices are slightly lower due to the holiday season. Ang sarap bumili ng laptop ngayon, for roughly P60,000 to P70,000 ang ganda na ng specs ng makukuha mong laptop from HP, Dell or other stores. Try Compusa, PC Connection, Circuit City or Best Buy.

shnicky

Dec 21, 2005, 07:58 PM

Noted. Thanks Tyke! :D

Hakaider

Dec 22, 2005, 04:07 PM

You can get a very good laptop in the States. Right now prices are slightly lower due to the holiday season. Ang sarap bumili ng laptop ngayon, for roughly P60,000 to P70,000 ang ganda na ng specs ng makukuha mong laptop from HP, Dell or other stores. Try Compusa, PC Connection, Circuit City or Best Buy.

Yeah, it's really cheap right now. Just picked up an HP laptop myself:

- HP Pavilion dv8000z CTO NB
- Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition with SP2
- AMD Turion™ 64 ML-32 (1.8GHz/512KB L2 Cache)
- 17.0" WSXGA+ BrightView Wide Viewing (1680x1050)
- 128MB ATI RADEON® XPRESS 200M w/Hypermemory™
- 1.0GB DDR SDRAM (2x512MB)
- 80 GB 5400 RPM Hard Drive
- DVD+/-RW/R & CD-RW Combo w/Double Layer Support
- 54g™ 802.11a/b/g WLAN & Bluetooth
- 8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
- Microsoft® Works/Money
- HP Mobile Remote Control

pathosmelody

Jan 21, 2006, 02:19 AM

yay! help me quick. I'm going to buy my first ever laptop approx. 7 hours from now. I've decided on a Toshiba. Problem is, which model? My budget is 1.5k dollars equiv. (BTW, I'm in S. Korea, and I 'll buy the laptop in Yongsan, S. Korea's Electronic town coz its cheaper there). Initially, I was set on getting a lower end Portege Model, but now I see that with the budget I can go with the mid-range Satellite, or the high end Tecra(although the Tecra's architecture is a little too boxy for me). help me decide please:

I won't really be needing a graphics intensive laptop since I do the graphics intensive work in the office. I want a laptop that has a wide screen, can burn CDs (although I wish I could afford one with a DVD burner), with a nifty graphics card(hopefully NVIDIA or better) for an occasional on the road movie, a stable and expandable RAM chipset and a slim case. I'm not so particular about the weight since basically, I'll leave the laptop at home and use it for after office surfing and some side jobs using MS Office programs.I just need the convenience of laptop so that when I go home to Pinas I'd be able to surf painlessly by wifi.

So what do you think would be the best for me? I still want the Portege, but when I compare it with the mid-range Satellite that I can buy with the same amount of money, I get confused. See, I feel that the Portege is designed better, and since Satellites are a little cheaper, I'm afraid that it would not be as stable as the Portege. Though I've had good experience using my Dad's Satellite laptop.
And the Tecra naman, I don't really know about this model, para kasing ang pangit ng graphics card ng Tecra, parang pang business lang talaga sya..

Help me naman guys! I want the best value for my money! thanks in advance for your help...

P.S. Compaq/HP seems to have lower pricepoints of laptop models comparable to Toshiba's kaya lang may kilala akong nangigigil sa CompaQ laptop nya dahil medyo sirain daw. He recommended IBM naman, kaso ayoko ng keyboard and overall design(physically speaking) ng IBM laptops eh. so unless meron talagang sobrang good boints yung ibang brands like these. Let's stick to Toshiba models. thanks!

smilewarrior

Jan 21, 2006, 07:49 AM

@pathosmelody
For compaq, try the HP dv4000 or the Compaq v4000t. From experience, I can tell you na di naman sirain ang Compaq, wag mo lang mababagsak kasi medyo malambot ang exterior ng Compaq.

For toshiba, you can configure a Satellite M60 (17 inch) or a Satellite M40 (15 inch) or a Tecra A4 (15 inch).

Before buying a computer, look at the screen's resolution. You basically want to get something with a resolution higher than XGA (1024 x 768). WXGA would be nice.

Get something with a glossy screen (Tru-brite, Clearbrite, etc) and a Non-intel graphics card (I prefer Ati-radeon, but Nvidia is ok).

Increase the ram if you can and see to it that the hard drive has rotational speed of 5,400 rpm or better.

2 mb level 2 cache would be nice.

Get something with a Pentium M or Athlon /Turion 64.

You can easily get all of these for $1,500, particularly if you buy the laptop from the States. I'm not so sure how it is in Korea.

william28

Jan 23, 2006, 07:03 PM

dogi,
pre, may malkaing difference ba sa pagupgrade mo sa 1G??....

I purchased (2x1GB) last week for $100 each.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16820155111
KINGMAX 1GB 200-Pin DDR SO-DIMM DDR 333 (PC 2700) Notebook Memory - OEM

Chimera101

Jan 23, 2006, 11:09 PM

di ba mas malakas ang desknote? *** parang desktop ang specs pero laptop form factor nya?

jellybeans21

Feb 13, 2006, 10:55 PM

guys ok ba to???

http://pccorner.com.ph/products.do?action=showproductdetail&typeid=23&categoryid=56&productid=1321

BENZ_ESTRADA

Feb 13, 2006, 11:51 PM

now ko lang nadiscover ang thread na ito so i guess medyo late na. anyways just want your opinion/assessment of the laptop I recently bought.heres the specs:

Apex FL31 - Sonoma Core

Intel® Centrino™ Mobile Technology
*Intel® Pentium® M Processor 740
1.73GHz / 2Mb / 533MHz / Sonoma
Intel® 915GM chipset
Internal Intel 802.11 a/b/g Wireless LAN (Intel 2915ABG)
512Mb Memory DDR1
14in. WXGA / TFT Active Matrix Display
40Gb Hard Disk Drive

----------------shared Video RAM ----------------
Intel® GMA900 up to 128Mb VRAM
----------------shared Video RAM ----------------

DVD+CDRW Combo Drive
USB 2.0 Ports
10/100Mbps LAN Controller
Built-in speakers/16-bit Sound Card
56Kbps V.90 Fax Modem
Li-ION battery / Web-Camera
Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional
60,000.00

Ok ba yung specs. My only complain is yung audio mahina sya (1 W lang yung built in speaker nya) pero nabili ko na sya at nauwi na ng may ari sa province)
I know indi sya branded. oks na ba ito. thanks.

jellybeans21

Feb 14, 2006, 02:42 PM

guys ano mas ok???

eto

http://laptopking.com.ph/laptopking/controller.do?action=singleproduct&productid=1321

or

http://laptopking.com.ph/laptopking/controller.do?action=singleproduct&productid=1585

tnx!!!

BENZ_ESTRADA

Feb 14, 2006, 07:54 PM

guys ano comments nyo about the laptop..ok na ba yun. salamat

Hakaider

Feb 14, 2006, 08:55 PM

guys ano comments nyo about the laptop..ok na ba yun. salamat

You have a decent laptop. As long as you're not gaming with it, it should serve you doing regular applications like word processing, internet surfing, email, etc. Remember, you only have 512MB of RAM, of which 128MB is shared with the video card. That leaves only 384MB free for Windows XP. That slows down performance a lot. So don't expect to be able to play some of the more recent games. That's why I made sure I bought a laptop with 1GB of RAM and a dedicated video card, one that doesn't have to steal memory from my RAM.

speeka

Feb 14, 2006, 10:59 PM

ask ko lang din kung talagang sandali lang ba ang battery life ng laptop? saken kasi more or less 2 hrs lang. averatec laptop ko. lithium ion battery. amd athlon xp-m 2000+

smilewarrior

Feb 15, 2006, 02:39 PM

originally posted by jellybeans21

guys ano mas ok???

eto

http://laptopking.com.ph/laptopking...&productid=1321

or

http://laptopking.com.ph/laptopking...&productid=1585

tnx!!!

Personally I would get the compaq. I've used a 2500 series before and it's a very good laptop. My only problem with it is the ram is only 256 mb and only a dvd-rom drive.

Is there a way to increase the ram to 512 md or even 1 gb? Also, do they offer a model with at least a cd writer combo drive?

The IBM has 512 mb ram and has a cd combo writer which is good. The trade off is the hard drive only has a 30 gb capacity. Can the capacity be increased to atleast 60 gb?

The laptops are cheap, are they brand new or second hand? Mahirap ang 2nd hand pag di mo kilala ang may-ari. Mahal magpaayos ng laptop sa Pilipinas.

You can always get a cheaper laptop with better specifications from the United States.

You can get a brand new Compaq v2000z for only $900 from the US. 100 gb na ang hard drive niyan.