University Chorale Groups [Archive]

archerguy

Feb 17, 2000, 08:24 PM

NO DOUBT THE PHILIPPINE MADRIGAL SINGERS!!!!!

They were declared the National Choir of the Philippines by the Philippine government and by the NCAA. OK lang kayong mga taga-USTE???
In terms of international recognition wala nang makakatalo pa sa Madz. Yung "Choir of the World" title ninyo matagal nang na-achieve ng MADZ. In fact, The Madrigal Singers represented the WESTERN part of the world after beating 3 major international choral fests that covers the whole European, American and Latin-American regions. They were eventually able to beat the Eastern region thereby regarded as "THE CHAMPION OF CHAMPION CHOIRS IN THE WORLD!" Last year's International Choral Fest sa CCP, UST was NOT even invited by the National Commission for Culture and the Arts (NCAA). The Philippines Madrigal Singers and the De La Salle University Chorale were the only two Philippine choral groups that were given the honor and prestige to grace the ocassion. In fairness to La Salle, hwag niyo silang mamaliitin kasi they were able to take Europe by storm last 1995 where they bagged gold medals and first prizes in the 8 or 10 international choir competitions that they joined. These were in Germany, Finland, Latvia, Slovenia, France, Austria, etc. Last year alone, they were champions in two international choral competition, including the prestigious Mendelssohn-Bartholdy Competition in Pontheim, Germany where they won gold medal for the Folkloric Category, Mixed Group Category, and the Public choice award for best choral group. They perform regularly at Paco Park in Manila and at Concert at the Park in Luneta.
BUT THERE IS NO DOUBT TO THE SUPERIORITY OF THE MADZ OVER ALL PHILIPPINE CHOIRS!!!

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badtz

Feb 17, 2000, 08:57 PM

archerguy: Tama-tama-tama! :)

§ínned™

Feb 17, 2000, 11:39 PM

archerguy wrote:
"Last year's International Choral Fest sa CCP, UST was NOT even invited by the National Commission for Culture and the Arts (NCAA)."

The UST Singers was not there BECAUSE the group was in Europe competing in the Welsh Eisteddfod; they also went to the Gran Premio “Citta di Gorizia” at the 37th Concorso Internazionale di Canto Corale “C.A. Seghizzi” held in Gorizia, Italy where they bested 21 international entries; they were also competing in Lindenholzhausen, Germany; and they were also invited as a special guest in the 100th year anniversary celebration of the “MGV Arion Nombron” conducted by famous German musician, Hubertus Weimer and at the 25th anniversary concert of the Bayer Leverkeusen Choir last year.

"kaya po wala po sila dun. ang Madz naman po ay tumulak papuntang Europa sa isa pang pagtatanghal pagkatapos ng NCAA Fest habang ang grupong koral naman ng La Salle nung mga panahong yun ay nagpapatawing-tawing at naghihintay ng mga imbitasyong matumal."

pahabol...

"The Madrigal Singers represented the WESTERN part of the world after beating 3 major..."

"ano po ito??? kasi naman, ang dada."

§inned™

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Yoshi

Feb 17, 2000, 11:49 PM

crispypata: I also believe the DLSU Chorale is better than the Ateneo Chorale ha.

I'd really appreciate it if you'd not start comparing both choral groups. Fact is, no one even asserted that the Ateneo College Glee Club was better than the DLSU Chorale. Besides, the ACGC rarely participates in international competitions—they focus mainly on their international tours every break. Therefore, there really is no solid basis to compare the two.

Is this another one of those sneaky tactics to spite the other school? :)

Braveheart

Feb 18, 2000, 12:21 AM

Siempre UST SINGERS!!!

clawed_out:
'yung friend ko naman taga Business Administration. magaling yun kasi member din ng Coro Tomasino. kasi maraming madada rito na hindi naman alam at walang basehan yung mga inilalagay dito, di ba calwed_out? ;)

krayola:
hahaha! baka taga-assumption college? ;)

§inned™:
matumal ba??? LOL!!!!!!!!!

Yoshi:
hahaha! sinabi mo ;)

kiray

Feb 18, 2000, 01:41 AM

Agree ako with crispypata...

DLSU Chorale is simply the best!!!!!

A N I M O L A S A L L E ! ! !

krayola

Feb 18, 2000, 09:43 AM

archerguy & §inned™ : clarification lang po. I work for the National Commission for Culture and the Arts and the acronym is not NCAA, its NCCA. Ang main word ay Culture at hindi And.
(§inned™: hndi ako nagmamaldita, ha. Tomasino ako, Peace!)

§inned™: Bilib talaga ako sa pagka-Tomasino ever! mo. Pati 'yon eh nasubaybayan mo pa. ;)

Braveheart: Malamang!LOL

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archangel

Feb 18, 2000, 10:19 AM

To add to what clawed said, the UST Singers is University wide kaya students of different colleges can join. There are even members from the College of Nursing and the Institute of Physical Therapy.

VIVA UST SINGERS!!!!!

elijah

Feb 18, 2000, 10:58 AM

crispypata,
FOR YOUR TOTAL INFO. ang UST Singers ay binubuo ng mga estudyante ng LAHAT ng COLLEGE and FACULTY ng USTe. And hindi lang pagkanta ang KABUHAYAN nila O.K.?

and

Kailan pa gumaling ang DLSU Chorale? pwede akong mag-comment dyan coz naging former president ang cousin ko ng choir na yan.She was then the president nung lumaban sila overseas and inamin nya sakin na yung mga sinalihan nilang competition eh yung mga competition na hindi mo na kailangang mag practice para manalo, in short, hindi kilala ang mga competition na sinalihan nila, kung sumali siguro dun ang UST Singers eh SUPER-GRANDSLAM na sila.

pero,

Tama ka na Basta Pilipino MAGALING!!!

Ikaw naman Archerguy,

Tama ka,na magaling ang U.P. Madrigal...noon. And FYI, hindi puro U.P. ang members nila noon 'no, 1/4 ng members nila noon eh from UST din...at hindi U.P. Madz ang dala nilang pangalan 'no nung lumaban sila...PHILIPPINE MADRIGAL SINGERS ang flagship name nila.Unlike in UST Singers, purely Thomasians ang members 'no...hindi nag-pi-pirate.And nung lumaban sila noon, ang dala nilang pangalan ay UNIVERSITY OF SANTO TOMAS-MANILA SINGERS,and LUCIANO PAVAROTTI said that "...the singers from MANILA that are from the Santo Tomas University are the best voices that i have heard" (the very word that came out from Pavarotti's mouth).

and

Kaya po wala ang UST SINGERS sa International Chorale Competititon that was held last year sa dito eh kasi po nasa EUROPEAN TOURS AND COMPETITIONS sila, actually, BEFORE pa sila umalis eh NCCA (NCCA, hindi po NCAA-diba league to ng the colles ng manila?) na mismo ang nag-invite sa kanila, but kailangan nilang lumaban para patunayan yung title nila overseas,as usual, they have defended their title.

FYI, hindi DLSU Chorale ang inimbitahan to be with Madrigal kundi FIRST choice nila eh UST SINGERS...my cousin told me (by the way she's a former DLSU Chorale prexy) na yun mismong conductor nila (DLSU) ang nagprisinta sa NCCA,para naman mag-karoon naman ng EXPOSURE ang Choir ninyo...as a part of your TOTAL packaging sa public.Kasi daw, U.P. merong Madz, UST may A.S.(Action Singers) and Ateneo merong ACGC.Ang La Salle wala, kaya sila na mismo ang nagprisinta, sayang nga naman ang binubuo ninyong advertisement sa public na "the Best" kayo sa laht ng bagay.HELLOOOOOOOOOOOO!?, ang mga sinalihan nilang competition (DLSU Chorale), hindi kilala,pa'no ang kalaban nila JAPAN, MALAYSIA and others, mostly from asian countries ang kalaban nila, in short, madadaling kalaban...ang UST Singers 'di na lumaban don kasi mag-aaksaya lang daw sila ng
panahon cause they will surely win there.hehehehe...walang asaran...sinasabi ko lang ang totoo...based from my cousin's statements.

badtz

Feb 18, 2000, 03:24 PM

Sara na 'tong thread na 'to. Basta ganitong klase ng thread nag-aaway away na naman UST - La Salle. Why don't we have a common insight. Filipinos are the best, or one of the best when it comes to Chorale Groups. Puro naman away dito sa PEx. Di na tumigil. Hanginan ng hanginan. Malamig na dito hoy!

elijah...tsk tsk tsk. Dati ka pa eh. You can't eat your way up being a 'MEMBER' by making such threads na puro away ang kalalabasan! Sama kayo ni isangUSTedyante! Respect the opinions of others.
La naman akong galit sa UST kasi doon nga nag-graduate ng medicine sister ko. Kung di dahil sa La Salle and sa UST sya nag-graduate ate ko la sya ngayon sa Makati Med!
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Ira

Feb 18, 2000, 11:32 PM

I don't understand this. You open a thread asking who the best university chorale group is, and when someone replies that the best chorale group is non-UST, you insult him or her. This is a matter of taste, I believe. Why bother opening a thread at all, elijah/IsangUSTedyante? If you are attempting to make UST a better school in the eyes of other non-UST people here in PEx, this is not the way to do it.

Yoshi

Feb 19, 2000, 01:02 AM

Ira: I completely understand your point, but I think the real problem is not about "making one school look good to other schools". I think the problem lies in the fact that other people use baseless, undocumented, and unreliable information in defending their replies.

Several of the Thomasians have just expressed clarificatory statements to correct what had been posted. I still believe it is everybody's right to correct grave errors, especially when it is borne out of hearsay and personal opinion. To correct errors is just a human way of defending one's own dignity and pride in front of others.

Now, when other people don't seem to appreciate what has been corrected, it's simply a case of how one handles criticism. But then again, there is but a fine line between intense defending and destructive insulting. And I think that when we try to traverse this fine line, many people still would not know how to take it.

Sometimes people do get emotional. It's part of a defense mechanism. What we can try to do, however, is to try to defend ourselves while keeping in mind the respect that is due to others. What keeps this BB alive is this thrust to really express what we feel, and that is what I find most incredible about PEx.

Besides, I don't think UST started this whole mess. ;)

green grin

Feb 19, 2000, 01:10 AM

guys! guys! there's a great topic on circumcision in another forum!!!

§ínned™

Feb 19, 2000, 01:25 AM

I wholeheartedly agree with Yoshi. I just noticed that whenever the Thomasians say something good about UST, it seems that it is the end of the world for the La Sallians/La Sallites (will never be cut and dried, eh?). They would rather start posting hogwash, baseless, untenable and scheming posts.

If you are going to check the UAAP forum (where it seems to me that it's the balwarte of DLSU people after seeing all the threads about DLSU has the cutest guys and girls, crush ng bayan whatever or that DLSU's good tambayans etc. etc.), did we, in any way, interfere with them telling them that what they are claiming are not true? Why are these La Sallians/La Sallites (La Sallians/La Sallites (will never be cut and dried, eh?) are so threatened whenever a Thomasian or an Atenean say something good about their schools? They just love discrediting other people's claims using their groundless wherefores.

§inned™

archangel

Feb 19, 2000, 08:42 AM

Yoshi: well said!

*brings out anti-hypertensive drugs for sinned*

Rach

Feb 19, 2000, 08:43 AM

First time ko yatang gagawin 'to sa buong pag-pex ko dito...

Bwaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!! Bwaaahahahahaaaaahahahaahhahahahahaaaa!

Nandito na naman ang La Salle dahil nakikiagaw ng prestige sa UST

Bwaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha talaga...

Haay.. kapagod...

Pag-na-close 'tong thread na 'to, magkakaroon ito ng part II or III, etc.

Bwaaaahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

Natatawa lang talaga ako sa La Salle. How pity..

Di ba gaya ng sinabi ko sa thread na "The Best School is not DLSU", facts!

Rach

Feb 19, 2000, 08:51 AM

Sinned (also to elijah, clawed_out, krayola, braveheart, archangel)-

sorry ha, medyo naiba ko tuloy ang pattern dito. pagkatapos ko kasing mabasa yung mga na-post nila at na post ng mga taga- UST, lalo lang akong natawa sa mga "pity". sorry, anyway.

seryoso na. sige kayo diyan na gusto ng realidad. give us facts to suuport what you're defending here. :)

§ínned™

Feb 20, 2000, 06:43 AM

'yung lang naman ang punto eh, kung wala kang alam sa isang bagay ay isara ang bunganga at itali ang mga kamay nang hindi mapahiya.

§inned™

ChiQui

Feb 20, 2000, 11:47 AM

Yes please... stick to the facts and to respecting each other''s opinions. :)

Rach

Feb 23, 2000, 03:46 PM

Ira-

I think there's a difference between:

"Sino ang pinakamagaling na University Chorale Group ng Pilipinas?"

and

"Sino sa palagay nyo ang pinakamagaling na University Chorale Group ng Pilipinas?"

Kaya nga sabi ni Chiqui, "stick to the facts"

FnoxpixF

Feb 23, 2000, 06:09 PM

ATENEO GLEE CLUB, OF COURSE!!! ;) ;)

Rach

Mar 1, 2000, 12:32 AM

FnoxpixF-

Tell us why you said that it's the best Chorale Group ng Pilipinas :)

snoc

Mar 3, 2000, 07:58 AM

Being a member of the De La Salle Chorale Id say we are considered one of the best but we still need more exposure to be considered the best.

Rach

Mar 3, 2000, 08:45 AM

snoc-

what's the latest with your choir?

snoc

Mar 3, 2000, 04:35 PM

Well we have a lot of concerts..but not that big...we cant really afford to hold a new concert since after the Europe tour that we had last summer some memebers left na coz they graduated already thats why we are having a very hard time to bring back the old sound of the DLSU Chorale. DLSU Chorale is very small compared to other choir groups. Well right now we're less than 20 kaya its really hard to stage a new concert. Pero we will have a national and provincial tour by summer.

Rach

Mar 6, 2000, 12:28 AM

snoc-

Thanks for the info. Since most of your members are already graduates, did they still join your last summer tour? It's good that you still have concert tours. PLs update us about your group for anything. :)
Good luck!

YoBaKs

Mar 6, 2000, 08:44 PM

UST SINGERS........GO USTEEEE!!!
lasalle chorale sinasalihan lang nilang competition is not that prestige eh...in short Low prof contest...unlike UST BIG TIME DUDES!!! GO USTEEEEE!!!! CAFA RULES!!!!
nuff said...hehehehe

Rach

Mar 7, 2000, 08:37 AM

Yobaks-

UST Singers will again have their European and US Tour this summer, right?

FnoxpixF-

So?

obelisk

Mar 7, 2000, 11:58 AM

Who really is the best?

Para sa akin mga PINOY. Bakit ba natin pagtatalunan kung sinong ensemble ang da best.

Bakit ba sa mga Pilipino eeh may time pang pag-awayan ang mga ganitong bagay eh kung tutuusin eh pare-pareho rin namang nagbibigay ng karangalan para sa ating bansa.

Ako nga, taga-UP ako pero hindi ko kinampihan ang Madrigal. Hindi rin ako kumampi sa ibang ensemble.

Puwede, next time, mag-postt tayo ng topic dito na hindi mag-reresult sa awayan o conflict ng mga members.

Ogie

Jun 23, 2000, 02:21 AM

Well , honestly ..and without any bias , I have always thought that the UST Singers are the best in the country , and even in the world. The Madz have already proven their worth , kung baga they're already an institution .. but let's face it , they don't sound as good as they did b4. But for this year ( 2000 ) , I think the Ateneo College Glee Club are making themselves known again. They may be the best for this year ..and maybe in the ones to come.

Taga UP ako ah....Walang bias talaga!

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FarOutFreak

Jun 23, 2000, 07:13 AM

I actually thought that this was a loaded question considering that the Ateneo Glee Club won that competition recently. Guess I was wrong.

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agila

Jun 23, 2000, 01:40 PM

The Ateneo de Manila College Glee Club are world choral champions this year having swept almost all the grad prize sa europe. actually all are good naman...basta kung pinoy ang mananalo dapat maging proud tayong lahat di ba?

Jopaul

Jun 23, 2000, 01:46 PM

Ateneo Glee Club. Period.

Nuno

Jun 23, 2000, 11:59 PM

The beauty of music will always belong to those who listen to it, same goes for choosing certain groups(chorals). You cannot expect people to fall for your particular group just because of so many distinctions.Therefore What's best for you is not neccesarily the same for others. Always hold what you feel is best in your heart, and do not insult others for thinking differently from you.
Personaly, I have heard La Salle, UST and Ateneo and have friends in all three choirs. I would have to admit that they are all very good, being human though they all have their weakneses. (1.UST-then a tie between Ateneo and DLSU)----->;note: tiga La Salle ako..... http://www.pinoyexchange.com/bop.gif

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BadGiRL

Jun 25, 2000, 02:15 AM

check ka dyan, Nuno!

Personally, I'm not a music fan. So it doesn't really matter to me who can carry a tune and who can't. So long as it sounds nice, ok na sa akin yun.

I know that all of the above mentioned chorale groups have bagged titles abroad, then, I would conclude that they are all world class. They are all magnificent.

Why fight over a chorale group guys? I think whenever they compete abroad they are representing the PHilippines and not some University. May that university be in taft, espana, diliman, katipunan or wherever. It ceases to be representing one particular school. Instead, it is representing the Filipino people.

ReTiCeNt

Jun 25, 2000, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by elijah:

before...U.P. Madrigal.

ngayon...UNIVERSITY OF SANTO TOMAS SINGERS na! Having won the almost all of the grandest titles in the Best and the Hardest Musical Chorale Competitions in Europe and Germany and recently have gained the title of being the BEST choir in the world (the CHOIR OF THE WORLD TITLE) in Spain.

kung aayusin natin ang pagkakasunod-sunod:

1.UST Singers (being the CHOIR OF THE WORLD)
2.UP Madrigal (won titles in int'l compt'ns)
3.ATENEO COLLEGE GLEE CLUB (being the oldest)
4.others...(including DLSU Chorale...having won some titles in some competition somewhere overseas.)

Kayo...sino sa palagay n'**?

FYI:
The Ateneo College Glee Club has just been tagged as the 2000 World's Chorale Champion.

crispypata

Jun 27, 2000, 05:47 PM

Yoshi, nang-aaway ka ha.. moderator ka pa naman..

Be moderate please! http://www.pinoyexchange.com/lol.gif

Tama ka Nuno. Nasa listener yan

Basta Pilipino nga MAGALING EH! Kulit!

kmunster

Jun 27, 2000, 06:44 PM

i think UST, UP and Ateneo are all the best chorale groups in the country...they've won a lot of competitions outside the country beating chorale groups from around the world!!! what i love most about all these groups is that they showcase one of our country's greatest asset, that is filipinos can sing really really really well. it makes one proud to be pinoy :D

i have a friend from ACGC and he told me that the different chorale groups in the country give way to each other when it comes to international competitions (i.e. ateneo competes this year, ust the next, up the other year) this is so they don't have to compete with one another in world competitions. gandang sistema no? ayan tuloy laging panalo ang pinoy sa mga labanan :)

roosevelt69

Jun 28, 2000, 04:20 AM

lahat sila magaling at world class siguro pero never ko pa ata sila napanood abroad, kahit isang contest w'la pa 'kong napanood o nabalitaan man lang sa news... pati ba naman sa kantahan yabangan pa rin ang marami...

kurashige

Jun 28, 2000, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by ReTiCeNt:
FYI:
The Ateneo College Glee Club has just been tagged as the 2000 World's Chorale Champion.

And for your total information that Championship has been with UST and UP na circa 1990's pa!

And take note! Two memebers of the Ateneo Glee Club are from UST- John Pamintuan(Asst.-Conductor-ACGC;Conductor-AHSGC;a graduate of B.S.Medtech from UST-former UST-Pharmacy Glee Club(PGC) Conductor;music student of Conservatory of Music of UST) and Daphine {i forgot her new surname}(Alto of ACGC-B.S.Biochemistry graduate of UST;Former UST-PGC choirmaster)-purely Thomasians!(they are considered as section leaders for basses and alto's,respectively at ACGC)-And take note of the fact that THEY are niether a graduate nor a faculty member of Ateneo.They've been pirated from UST-'cause of thier singing ability! So if Ateneo Glee Club won the World Championship- it's not a 100% effort of ateneans only- also from 2 Thomasians.

UST Singers parin!

Fernando Sarmenta

Jun 28, 2000, 05:05 PM

What more can I say!
Keep that Fighting Spirit mga Kapwa kong Tomasino!

UST Singers dami daw cute, so oks na rin!

Michael_Corderi

Jun 28, 2000, 06:02 PM

The best chorale group ba.... I've got a list here....

1. UP Madrigal Singers
2. UP Concert Chorus
3. Ateneo Glee Club
4. ....the one from DLSU

to these groups, puwede bang magpaturong kumanta? :p

Michael_Corderi

Jun 28, 2000, 06:03 PM

The best chorale group ba.... I've got a list here....

1. UP Madrigal Singers
2. UP Concert Chorus
3. Ateneo Glee Club
4. ....the one from DLSU

to these groups, puwede bang magpaturong kumanta? :p

yves

Jun 28, 2000, 06:29 PM

i think UST na nga. ang galing talaga ng pinoy!

elijah

Jun 28, 2000, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by Michael_Corderi:
The best chorale group ba.... I've got a list here....

1. UP Madrigal Singers
2. UP Concert Chorus
3. Ateneo Glee Club
4. ....the one from DLSU

to these groups, puwede bang magpaturong kumanta? :p

For your no.1-magaling sila noon...wayback 1980's.
For your no.2-pwede ba!?Mr.Robert del Gado(a UP-madrigal alumnus-famous composer/arranger)said 'this choir has no future'.(accdg. to the music-man himself).
For your no.3-sorry,hindi talo' eh-pagbigyan ko na-nanalo naman sila for the 1st time ng grand-internat'l prize.
For your no.4-'sus,pwede ba!-may nag-eexist bang ganun?baka magalit insan ko-prexy sya nun eh.
anyway-dapat may patunayan muna sila-siguro stick on retaining nalang thier spot in Asiaweek...

inaantok na talaga ako...

[INSIDER]

Jun 29, 2000, 12:00 AM

Originally posted by elijah:
For your no.1-magaling sila noon...wayback 1980's.
For your no.2-pwede ba!?Mr.Robert del Gado(a UP-madrigal alumnus-famous composer/arranger)said 'this choir has no future'.(accdg. to the music-man himself).
For your no.3-sorry,hindi talo' eh-pagbigyan ko na-nanalo naman sila for the 1st time ng grand-internat'l prize.
For your no.4-'sus,pwede ba!-may nag-eexist bang ganun?baka magalit insan ko-prexy sya nun eh.
anyway-dapat may patunayan muna sila-siguro stick on retaining nalang thier spot in Asiaweek...

inaantok na talaga ako...

Hello? Bakit masyado kayong conceited. Basta tayong lahat magaling. Magaganda ang boses. Kristyano ba kayong mga taga Uste? Nakakahiya kayo kat St. Thomas Aquinas. Siguro kung alam niyang sobra kayo kung manlait ng tao siguro naitapon na niya sa inyo ang manuscripts ng Summa Theologia ng di oras.

Please, show us that you are Thomasians and not Hooligans.

crispypata

Jul 3, 2000, 09:01 AM

nang-away na naman si [INSIDER]!

crimsonjaguar

Jul 8, 2000, 09:51 PM

Ateneo Glee Club d best!

kami ang nag-world champion noh!
ano pang ihihirit nyo?

jean!e

Jul 8, 2000, 10:07 PM

http://www.pinoyexchange.com/thinker.gif http://www.pinoyexchange.com/thinker.gif ATENEO COLLEGE GLEE CLUB siyempre, World Chorale Champions.
http://www.pinoyexchange.com/blush.gifCONGRATS!laung-lalo na kay Eunice...hehe

PolOshOsh

Jul 11, 2000, 01:02 PM

of course, no can possibly take away the crown of the MADZ!!! i heard MADZ so many times and i believe they're one of the best!!! UST...oh well...i last heard them sing last October (sa u.p abelardo hall)...well i wasnt that impressed!!! grabe nga eh yung isa nilang soprano soloist bumigay!!! as in super halata ang mali!!! talk about consistent?!? fidel calalang...made a good arrangement of "PATER NOSTER (OUR FATHER)!!!" but they werent able to interpret the song with so much passion as what JOEL NAVARRO (the ateneo college glee club) did!!! even eudi palaruan gave his thumbs up with the PATER NOSTER interpretation of the ACGC!!! MADZ naman eh...well...ms veneracion is kinda weird!!! i personnally like Jojo Velasco to take the baton of OA!!! DLSU chorale....eh...okay lang!!! pero puro sila POP!!! but i was also to get a copy of dlsu chorale's performance last October!!! well...!!! satisfactory!!!

MADZ is really the best!!!
UST, all i know is that they were able to do something that the MADZ has done in a shorter span of time (like ten years!!!) but i really find them very inconsistent!!!

Ateneo is probably for me the rising star!!! being the oldest!!! and having the best conductor the philippines could possibly have (Joel Navarro!!!) i find them to be the future number one!!! and of course currently, we are the WORLD CHORALE CHAMPIONS!!! and no one cant take that away from us!!! maybe this dispute can only be solved if ever UST, DLSU and ATENEO meet at an international contest (probably in Europe) and see whatever happens!!! there!!!

GO GO ACGC!!! :p

Rach

Jul 11, 2000, 02:26 PM

Correct. Napanalunan na ng UST, noon pa, and CHOIR OF THE WORLD!

Aside from that they won most of the International awards recently.

As of the moment they are touring Europe and the USA to do concerts and compete in some International Competitions, again!

UST SINGERS.

elijah

Jul 11, 2000, 04:35 PM

F.Y.I.

the Choir of the World title has been with the UST-Singers since 1995,and as far as i remember,that title has also been with the MADZ in the early 80's or 70's.

UST-Singers is in it's 7th World Concert Tour right now.They have decided not to join any competition during this time for 60% of their members are new.So they're only conducting concerts and tv- guestings in Europe and the Americas.They don't have anything to prove pa kasi eh.

In fairness to ACGC- yes they are good- but there are still some inconsistencies on the way they perform-but i should say they are good.(baka magalit si John and Daphine sakin{by the way members sila ng ACGC but they're 100%from UST}).

MADZ-they have had their time.They experienced being on the 'pedestal', but frankly,they are not that good anymore.

But i should say that these three choirs that i've mentioned deserves to be acknowledge.They make their respective school proud as well as the whole country.

Imagine, three Filipino-Choirs have won the much coveted Choir of the World title,and these are university-choirs.

Kudos sa ACGC lalo na kay John and Daphine!!!

mark_mark

Jul 11, 2000, 06:36 PM

i am personnaly impressed with the ATENEO GLEE CLUB. i know that they practice very often that oftentimes they stay for several hours in the university practising. they are so diligent and committed in sacrificing very important hours which they should have spent studying. i cannot believe how they manage to balance their studies and their other commitments.

ollagram_12

Jul 14, 2000, 10:06 AM

And take note! Two memebers of the Ateneo Glee Club are from UST- John Pamintuan(Asst.-Conductor-ACGC;Conductor-AHSGC;a graduate of B.S.Medtech from UST-former UST-Pharmacy Glee Club(PGC) Conductor;music student of Conservatory of Music of UST) and Daphine {i forgot her new surname}(Alto of ACGC-B.S.Biochemistry graduate of UST;Former UST-PGC choirmaster)-purely Thomasians!(they are considered as section leaders for basses and alto's,respectively at ACGC)-And take note of the fact that THEY are niether a graduate nor a faculty member of Ateneo.They've been pirated from UST-'cause of thier singing ability! So if Ateneo Glee Club won the World Championship- it's not a 100% effort of ateneans only- also from 2 Thomasians.

UST Singers parin!
THE QUESTION IS, why did they choose to stay and grow with the ACGC? arent you disturbed with that?

ollagram_12

Jul 14, 2000, 10:06 AM

ollagram_12

Jul 14, 2000, 10:09 AM

and do you have any proof that they are pirated? you know that "pirated" connotes a negative impression. i think that they are not pirated at all. being pirated is one thing, staying ang growing with the choir is another thing. thanks for pointing out that some are thomasians. it reall makes us proud that they preferred to be with the ACGC.

ollagram_12

Jul 14, 2000, 10:10 AM

PolOshOsh

Jul 14, 2000, 01:08 PM

tama ka diyan...ollgram_12!!!! and by the way...kurashige...sorry ah...pero kasi i believe i am in the position to react!!! the ACGC did not pirate them!!! never-ever did we pirate any member!!! its upon the person's free will to join and not to join!!! besides dont you know that JOHN P was a member of the MADZ before...around 94 ba?!? bat how come hindi siya nagstay?!? so would you consider the MADZ pirating thomasians?!? i dont think so?!? these organizations...eh...open to all!!! we have to remove the idea that the UP MADZ, ACGC et.c eh open lang to the respective school!!! lahat naman pwedeng sumali!!! even i...if i want to...i can join the MADZ!!! oh by the way...kurashige...hindi section head si daphne and si john p...!!! section head of alto is i think date eh...si Ayie Oppus (a Scholastican, Marikina) but she loa-ed (leave!!!) and she was replaced by Mimi Agbay!!! basses naman eh...Chris Ong!!! kaya...mali...ang conclusion niyo!!!

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PolOshOsh

Jul 14, 2000, 01:16 PM

ACGC hasnt been travelling much...unlike UST and UP who travels almost every year!!! ACGC last year...1999 went to GUAM just to stage concerts!!! but it was...1988 or 89...i think na huling pumunta sa EUROPE!!! they also bagged a lot of prizes there!!! i guess...we werent really given the chance to travel to EUROPE to compete...because of (can you believe...financial problems)!!! yah...as of the moment...eh may utang pa rin ang ACGC to some glee club parents...para lang matuloy ang TOUR nung summer!!! hopefully the attention that we are getting...of course can be profitable (in terms of raising funds). para makabalik ulit!!! i think the ACGC is going to SPAIN this november for another competition!!! and next year...balik ulit ng europe to compete on the EUROPEAN GRAND PRIX!!! and go on a US-TOUR!!! so i just hope guys that you get the idea that...we werent really given the chance to showcase our talents before...kaya siguro nalamangan kami ng ibang choirs!!! hayaan niyo!!! i know were far better!!! wait and see!!! we still have a mountain to climb!!!

seiguchi

Jul 14, 2000, 02:04 PM

the ateneo glee club just came home from a european tour where they won almost all the grand prize titles in the competitions they entered.

magagaling naman ang iba. siyempre - pinoy e :)

ollagram_12

Jul 14, 2000, 02:11 PM

si chris ong magaling na baso! toast ako riyan! hs pa lang, bilib na ako sa kanya.

ollagram_12

Jul 14, 2000, 02:11 PM

si chris ong magaling na baso! toast ako riyan! hs pa lang, bilib na ako sa kanya.

PolOshOsh

Jul 14, 2000, 07:55 PM

teka nga pala...bat ka nga pala sinasabi ni kurashige na si john pamintuan and si daphine eh hindi FACULTY NG ADMU!!! eh...sinabi nga niya na si JOHN PAMINUTAN is the CONDUCTOR of the ATENEO HIGH SCHOOL GLEE CLUB so...faculty nga siya?!? shish...talk about weird!!! shish...eh kasama ko pa nga si john paminutang pumunta sa high school faculty noong ah..teka...kelan ba yon?!? hmmm...september...yah...may kanta kami sa HIGH SCHOOL dahil sa ALAY KAY MARIA program!!! shish!!! kurashige...ang WEIRD MO!!! as in ang weird mo!!! http://www.pinoyexchange.com/grrr.gif

PolOshOsh

Jul 14, 2000, 07:57 PM

yah...chris ong...is really good!!! pero hindi baso!!! its baho!!! as bad as it may sound eh...yan ang filipino term for bass!!! :)

dominicus

Jul 14, 2000, 11:45 PM

Is Anthony Alcantara a member of the Ateneo Glee Club? I heard he joined the world tour recently.

Tonton is a colleague in the industry. He writes for the PDI. Grabe ang tagal niyang nawala. He's very quiet at mabait.

[alco]

Jul 15, 2000, 12:10 AM

i'd have to say na three groups can claim to be the best...not only in the Phils, but the world.
1) The Phil Madrigals
2) UST Chorale
3) ACGC
No need to compare the three.

:) ;) :) ;) :)

elijah

Aug 17, 2000, 12:12 AM

just to ressurect this ropic...

please read what Mr. Joel Navarro want to his ACGC...he wants them to sound like the UST Singers... http://www.inquirer.net/issues/jul2000/jul23/features/fea_6.htm

Zack

Aug 17, 2000, 12:54 AM

NO DOUBT: THE PHILIPPINE MADRIGAL SINGERS

i compare ba ang UST Singers sa Madz... naguumpisa pa lang ang UST Singers and besides, lahat ng styles ng choral singing, they (THE OTHER CHOIRS) get it from the Madrigal Singers. Institution na yan. ang ibang choirs mga bago palang.

pero at least palagi ang PILIPINAS ang nasa top five pag may mga international choral competitions.

MABUHAY ANG PILIPINAS!!!!

doubtful

Aug 17, 2000, 12:55 AM

siyempre DLSU Chorale!!!!

Zack

Aug 17, 2000, 01:02 PM

THE PHILIPPINE MADRIGAL SINGERS WON THE 1997 EUROPEAN GRAND PRIX AND NO PHILIPPINE CHOIR HAS EVER DONE IT. SILA LANG ANG FIRST ASIAN CHOIR NA NANALO. ANG UST SINGERS I THINK KASAMA SA FINALIST THE FOLLOWING YEAR 1998. NO DOUBT NA ANG PHILIPPINE MADRIGAL SINGERS ANG THE BEST CHOIR.
BEING THE RESIDENT CHOIR OF THE CCP, THEY HAVE GARNERED ALMOST ALL THE MAJOR AWARD ON INTERNATIONAL COMPETITIONS ABROAD.
PERO ALAM NIYO, MGA PEXERS, MAS KILALA NGA DAW ANG MADRIGAL SA EUROPE KESA DITO EH.
HAY NAKU.. BASTA MABUHAY PA RIN ANG PILIPINAS!!!!

Zack

Aug 17, 2000, 01:05 PM

I'm from UST pero the best talaga ang PHILIPPINE MADRIGAL SINGERS.

I NEED NOT TO SAY MORE.

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elijah

Aug 17, 2000, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by Zack:
I'm from UST pero the best talaga ang PHILIPPINE MADRIGAL SINGERS.

I NEED NOT TO SAY MORE.

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uy,taga-Uste ka din pala?

pwedeng pakisagot ang tanong ko...anong college ka? sino dean n'**?

mark_mark

Aug 17, 2000, 03:24 PM

the ateneo glee club is okay din yata. :)

Moon Goddess

Aug 17, 2000, 03:55 PM

UST singers?
Di ko pa sila naririnig ever. Anyway, actually, if not for the Espana students' sita, puna, lait, reaksyon, dagdag, bawas to any information regarding this topic, i would never know how "good" the Espana singers are. My friend whom i regard as a very knowledgeable person regarding music, member of the blue glee club, and our former glee club moderator who was a member of the madz, really think that the singers from Espana were and are really not that good. My friend even said that their soprano singer went mad as in she went off the notes and it was very very obvious during a fest held at a UP building. And that's what you call one of the best.

Yoshi:
You are biassed. How unbecoming of a moderator.

jimi hendrix

Aug 17, 2000, 04:13 PM

syempre Ateneo Glee Club!!!! They're already the World Champions. Who else have achieved that???!!!

Zack

Aug 17, 2000, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by elijah:
Originally posted by Zack:
I'm from UST pero the best talaga ang PHILIPPINE MADRIGAL SINGERS.

I NEED NOT TO SAY MORE.

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uy,taga-Uste ka din pala?

pwedeng pakisagot ang tanong ko...anong college ka? sino dean n'**?

i'm from science... Dr. Gloria Bernas dean namin

ikaw?

walangdila

Aug 17, 2000, 07:09 PM

syempre choir ko....

UPSA (UP Singing Ambassadors)
-the only choir i've heard that sings from the heart.

-love u jean-

indiegirl

Aug 18, 2000, 02:25 PM

um hello, kurashige or whatever your name is. the glee club has never pirated any member. each member who joins has done so of his or her own volition. and john is the very capable ASSISTANT CONDUCTOR. john and daphine are NOT the section leaders for bass and alto. please work out the kinks in your head. http://www.pinoyexchange.com/grrr.gif

most of the choirs mentioned have very good relationships with each other, both professionally and personally. and pretty much everyone sees a victory abroad as a plus for the philippines in general.

also something for you guys to think about: there's a general thought that a choir is pretty much as good as its current batch. pana-panahon lang yan. i think it's great that each choir works really hard to earn its place in the sun, no matter how long ago it was, or how far into the future it will be.

elijah

Aug 18, 2000, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by walangdila:
syempre choir ko....

UPSA (UP Singing Ambassadors)
-the only choir i've heard that sings from the heart.

-love u jean-

Uy, kilala mo si Alvin Hernandez?

I've watched ur concert a week ago, ok s'ya ha...i like the ANAK...

...pero i suggest, sing as one...you have the heart and the voice but sing like a united group...and train you soprano more than the way they should be...

...good luck sa incoming performances.

elijah

Aug 18, 2000, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by indiegirl:
um hello, kurashige or whatever your name is. the glee club has never pirated any member. each member who joins has done so of his or her own volition. and john is the very capable ASSISTANT CONDUCTOR. john and daphine are NOT the section leaders for bass and alto. please work out the kinks in your head. http://www.pinoyexchange.com/grrr.gif

most of the choirs mentioned have very good relationships with each other, both professionally and personally. and pretty much everyone sees a victory abroad as a plus for the philippines in general.

also something for you guys to think about: there's a general thought that a choir is pretty much as good as its current batch. pana-panahon lang yan. i think it's great that each choir works really hard to earn its place in the sun, no matter how long ago it was, or how far into the future it will be.

i agree with you girl...these choir have a good relationship with eachother...

...for all we know - they might merge and be the best of the best of the best choir in the land... 'kinda good idea isn't it?

...Ateneo de Madrigal Action Singers...nothing more, nothing less...

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irrationalLady

Aug 18, 2000, 07:52 PM

DE LA SALLE UNIVERSITY CHORALE!!!!!!!!

............need i say more?????????

elijah

Aug 19, 2000, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by irrationalLady:
DE LA SALLE UNIVERSITY CHORALE!!!!!!!!

............need i say more?????????

...please win the Choir of the World title first to be at par with that of the Ateneo's,UP's and UST's singing group for you to say more!

-tanungin mo pa kay Delijoe Bago at kay Boy Delarmente.

-magagalit si Joel Navarro, Andrea Veneracion at Fidel Calalang n'yan!

Zack

Aug 19, 2000, 10:10 PM

TAMA NA ANG AWAY.....

dagobert

Aug 20, 2000, 03:53 AM

the dlsu chorale does not wish to involve itself in this kind of comparison . . . ust, up, admu and dlsu choirs have their own respective world-class achievements already . . . please note that these groups participate in competitions and festivals in a friendly atmosphere with the main purpose of sharing philippine music abroad and not to prove that they are the best or whatever . . . they are only trying to achieve a certain level of perfection in their craft as it is their passion and, at the same, learn more from other choirs . . .

i was a member of the dlsu chorale and we had good relationship with these other choirs . . . we recognize their achievements and they recognize ours . . . in fact, the well-known philippine choirs avoid each other in competitions and festivals not for the fear of being second but just a gesture of support for each other's participation . . .

as for the dlsu chorale, i respect your opinion . . . but please consider these facts before you try to put us down:

1. artistic achievements abroad:
a. grand prix winner (with the highest award ever given in the event's history) - tampere international music competition (finland)
b. 1st prize winner - oskarshamn, sweden
c. 1st prize winner - spittal an der drau, austria
d. grand slam champion - arnhem, netherlands
e. 1st prize winner - cantonigros, spain
f. gold awards (musica mundi) - pohlheim, germany
g. gold awards (musica mundi) - wernigerode, germany
f. philippine representative - world symposium on choral music (rotterdam, netherlands)
g. best choir - pescara, italy
h. best choir - nancy, france
i. best choir - ljubljana, slovenia

if you think these events are nothing, then it is tantamount to saying that the others' achievements in arezzo, gorizia, tours, debrecen, riva del garda, varna, etc. are nothing as well . . . you'll be surprised: the jury and organizers of all these competitions/festivals are usually involved in each other's event . . .

let's not make a big fuss of who's the country's best . . . it is enough to know that philippine choirs excel abroad and prove to the world that filipinos are indeed a special breed in music . . .

to all the choirs out there, more power!

JohnnyBBad

Aug 20, 2000, 04:31 AM

being a long-time chorale concert addict (and a long-time member of the Ateneo College Glee Club as well), I really find the talk about figuring out who's the best choir a triffle bit silly. It seems so very pinoy to pit each choir against each other, when in fact, one only has to see beyond the competition to appreciate each choirs' strentghs: the Madz for their unique brand of artistry and musicality, the UST Singers for their eveness of sound and sheer brilliance of singing, the UPCC for their sprightly showmanship, the La Salle Chorale for their "clean" sound, the UPSA for their georgeous and hefty hefty, the PCC (Philippine Chamber Choir) for their adventurous and exciting repertoire, and so on and so forth. Sure, none of these choirs are perfect; all of them have their own weaknesses, too (lalo na kami sa ateneo college glee club - kung saan-saan pumupunta ang intonation! heheheheheh :P). But why the strange fixation with the faults? Constructive and informed criticism is fundamental for the improvement of any choir, but being anal-retentive about missed notes, shaky intonation, etc., of another choir does not make good business. It merely bespeaks of petty jealousies and/or insecurites that eventually comes back to the originator in a viscious cycle that is hard to get out of.

Well, yun lang po, and good luck to the UST Singers in their forray into the competition at Arezzo next week. May they win there too as the Madz did way back in '81. Ay, come to think of it, if they win, makakasama namin sila sa Grand Prix competion (which the Madz won in '97), sila as representatives of Arezzo, at kami as representative ng Tours. Wouldn't that be waaay too kewl? :)

p.s. John Pamintuan and Daphine Magdangal were indeed from UST but were never part of the UST Singers. The ACGC is not in the habit of pirating people from other choirs, and of the 35 singing members that went on tour last summer, only four of them were not connected to the Ateneo at all. The rest of the members were either college students themselves, faculty members of the college/high school, or people who studied at the college or high school at one point or the other.

dagobert

Aug 20, 2000, 01:41 PM

JohnnyBBad:

good luck to acgc and ust singers next year . . . i hope you guys share the grand prix :)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JohnnyBBad:

Well, yun lang po, and good luck to the UST Singers in their forray into the competition at Arezzo next week. May they win there too as the Madz did way back in '81. Ay, come to think of it, if they win, makakasama namin sila sa Grand Prix competion (which the Madz won in '97), sila as representatives of Arezzo, at kami as representative ng Tours. Wouldn't that be waaay too kewl? :)

doomsr16

Aug 20, 2000, 02:17 PM

i haven't heard the other chorale groups yet, but i think ACGC is great!

Zack

Aug 20, 2000, 03:23 PM

KAINIS... IMAGINE, PHILIPPINES CHOIRS REPRESENTING A DIFFERENT COUNTRY..... HAAAYYY.......
ANG GALING TALAGA NG MGA PINOY!!!

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Ian_langpo

Aug 20, 2000, 08:51 PM

U.P. MADRIGAL ofcourse.

Magaling rin ang DLSU Chorale, (AND i FORGOT, UST SINGERS) kaya lang mas familiar and recognized kase ang UP Madrigal eh.

PERO KAHIT ANO PANG SABIHIN KO, MAGAGALING TALAGAH ANG PINOY!!!!!

GRABEH

Ian_langpo

Aug 20, 2000, 08:58 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by elijah:
[B]crispypata,
FOR YOUR TOTAL INFO. ang UST Singers ay binubuo ng mga estudyante ng LAHAT ng COLLEGE and FACULTY ng USTe. And hindi lang pagkanta ang KABUHAYAN nila O.K.?

and

Kailan pa gumaling ang DLSU Chorale? pwede akong mag-comment dyan coz naging former president ang cousin ko ng choir na yan.She was then the president nung lumaban sila overseas and inamin nya sakin na yung mga sinalihan nilang competition eh yung mga competition na hindi mo na kailangang mag practice para manalo, in short, hindi kilala ang mga competition na sinalihan nila, kung sumali siguro dun ang UST Singers eh SUPER-GRANDSLAM na sila.

SOBRA KA NAMAN!! Para mo na ring sinabi na ang DLSU Chorale ay para lang sa mga competitions na hindi recognized.

PERO Isipin mo na lang ha, nag-eemerged nga ang La Salle sa Music eh, PERO WALA KAMING CONSERVATORY OF MUSIC. Ang UST at UP meron. Naturaally!!! Meron kayong courses na pang-music eh.. PERO KAME.... hmmm.

Naiisip mo na ba ang naiisip ko?

ANIMO LA SALLE!!!!

Ian_langpo

Aug 20, 2000, 08:59 PM

Nuno

Aug 20, 2000, 10:49 PM

In a way this thread is ironic, since music should be one of the unifying forces in this world. Music, throughout the ages, has always had a mystical power that joins the meind and often hearts of a lot of people.

Stop the senseless arguements.UST, UP, Ateneo, De La Salle, Etc. all of these choirs are very good in their own right. And as someone has earlier posted, whenthey lave the country, they no longer represent their school, but thier country. which is why the whole nation should share in their glory whenever they win contests abroad.

Mabuhay tayong lahat......

JohnnyBBad

Aug 21, 2000, 12:30 AM

Thanks Dagobert! :)

Elijah: UST is competing this year despite their turn-over of members. They already competed in Spittal, where they won 2nd in the folkloric division and 3rd in the mixed/polyphonic division (am not really sure what they call this category). FYI La Salle won there na rin (but am not sure what category, so La Salle Chorale members, speak up! :) This week, they're competing in Arezzo, one of the European Grand Prix Competitions (along with Varna, Debrecen, Gorizia, Tolosa, and Tours). Let's all pray for their success, and for the success of the success of the Filipino people as well! :)

P.S. amomng the European Grand Prix Competitions, only three Philippine choirs have made it into the European Grand Prix itself: the Philippine Madrigal Singers (that's their formal title when they go abroad) in '97 (for winning in Tolosa in '96), the UST Singers in '99 (for winning in Gorizia in '98), and the Ateneo College Glee Club in '01 (for winning in Tours this year - the 1st Asian choir to do so hehehehehe). The '80's batches of the Madz (specially the '81 and '89 batches) romped off with practically all the major awards in the almost all the "big six" competitions, but the European Grand Prix Competitions itself was not yet in existence then. I wonder how they would have fared? :)

JohnnyBBad

Aug 21, 2000, 12:32 AM

Genius101

Aug 21, 2000, 12:58 AM

Honestly, what this elijah person is doing is bringing his school (or choir) down instead of actually raising it up. Your posts are such a turn off. I am from La Salle, and I have always looked up to the UST Singers, but I certainly hope there are none other there who are like you. You bring your school and our country shame more than anything.

Besides... I thought the whole point of this thread was "Sino ang pinakamagaling na University Choir...?", and not "Sino ang pinaka-overrated/pinakapangit na choir...?". Didn't you start this thread yourself?

One word for you... PATHETIC.

frenzy

Aug 21, 2000, 05:29 AM

UP Madrigal Singers

lanasayana17

Aug 21, 2000, 08:46 AM

Well, as far as the Ateneo is concerned, we've just won (CHAMPION!) in a choral singing competition in Ireland.

What d'you think about that, huh?

Ian_langpo

Aug 21, 2000, 09:55 AM

basta, magaling talagah ang pinoy!!!!

i BELIEVE iN ALL POTENTIALS OF eVERY uNIVERSITY wHEN iT COMES TO mUSIC.

AND FOR THAT, i WOULD STILL CREDIT TO EVERYONE....

ANIMO LA SALLE!!!

rogue

Aug 21, 2000, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by agila:
The Ateneo de Manila College Glee Club are world choral champions this year having swept almost all the grad prize sa europe. actually all are good naman...basta kung pinoy ang mananalo dapat maging proud tayong lahat di ba?

i agree! Go ATENEO COLLEGE GLEE CLUB! ON EAGLE'S WINGS...

elijah

Aug 21, 2000, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by Genius101:
Honestly, what this elijah person is doing is bringing his school (or choir) down instead of actually raising it up. Your posts are such a turn off. I am from La Salle, and I have always looked up to the UST Singers, but I certainly hope there are none other there who are like you. You bring your school and our country shame more than anything.

Besides... I thought the whole point of this thread was "Sino ang pinakamagaling na University Choir...?", and not "Sino ang pinaka-overrated/pinakapangit na choir...?". Didn't you start this thread yourself?

One word for you... PATHETIC.

...your last word shouldn't be entitled to me...i tell you!!!...don't wanna waste my time sana to reply to your post and waste time writing your name eh...*** lang, i have too!

...Just tell Kuya Boy D.(pakisabi na rin na isosoli ko na sa kanya yung mga piyesang hiniram ko back in 1997) and Delijoe na pag-igihan n'** ang mga practices huh!...ok?!

"...when i went home before, no one talked of the war, what they knew from TV didn't have a thing to do with me..."

-Christopher Scott (by Cameron Mckintosh)

karen_c

Aug 21, 2000, 04:30 PM

one only has to see beyond the competition to appreciate each choirs' strentghs: the Madz for their unique brand of artistry and musicality, the UST Singers for their eveness of sound and sheer brilliance of singing, the UPCC for their sprightly showmanship, the La Salle Chorale for their "clean" sound, the UPSA for their georgeous and hefty hefty, the PCC (Philippine Chamber Choir) for their adventurous and exciting repertoire, and so on and so forth. Sure, none of these choirs are perfect; all of them have their own weaknesses, too

That's the BEST way to put it. Actually, talaga namang walang best choir for all time kasi the members change from time to time and kahit man hindi sila mag-palit ng members, puede pa rin silang mag-iba ng sound. Nothing is constant in this world. Sabi nga ng isang philosopher, you cannot step into the same river twice NA na-CONTRADICT pa ng isang philosopher who said na "You cannot even step into the same river once for the water is ever-flowing". As of now, puedeng ang the best na choir e ang EK-EK University Choir but what if mag-quit TONIGHT ang lead SOPRANO or lead ALTO nila, paano na bukas? Hindi natin talaga masasabi. Also, as JohnnyBBad said, each choir has its own low points and each one has his or her own opinion kaya sana let's respect other's thoughts.

karen_c

Aug 21, 2000, 04:33 PM

hi elijah! are you deli-JOE's cousin?

whoopie

Aug 21, 2000, 04:36 PM

In fairness to the DLSU Chorale, I've watched their several concerts and I can say that the choir is definitely WORLD CLASS! For those people who are trying to put this choir down, I suggest that you listen to them first. The Chorale was the only choir invited by the prestigious World Symposium on Choral Music last year and the organization did that because they believed that the DLSU Chorale is excellent. Being the only Philippine representative to the 5th World Symposium on Choral Music (held in the Netherlands) is something. To the DLSU Chorale, congratulations for doing an excellent job. Keep it up!

karen_c

Aug 21, 2000, 04:37 PM

elijah

Aug 21, 2000, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by whoopie:
In fairness to the DLSU Chorale, I've watched their several concerts and I can say that the choir is definitely WORLD CLASS! For those people who are trying to put this choir down, I suggest that you listen to them first. The Chorale was the only choir invited by the prestigious World Symposium on Choral Music last year and the organization did that because they believed that the DLSU Chorale is excellent. Being the only Philippine representative to the 5th World Symposium on Choral Music (held in the Netherlands) is something. To the DLSU Chorale, congratulations for doing an excellent job. Keep it up!

...i can agree now! (it's only whoopie that made up my mind and made me convinced that DLSU-Chorale is one of the best!)

...i'm just here to bring out some fire!

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winner!!

Aug 21, 2000, 07:41 PM

i think the best university choir ngayon is.. are, actually.. ust singers at madz. continuous kasi ang pag-rise ng ust singers e. hindi ko pa sila naririnig from pagiging magaling to hindi magaling tapos to magaling ulit! gets?! ever since narining ko sila, magaling na sila talaga. and madz naman, narining ko sila nung 1989 and sinubaybayan ko sila since then. they were not able to maintain their sound hanggang mga 1998. in fairness naman sa madz, bumabalik na ulit sa pagiging magaling!! nung 1998-99 kasi, parang medyo hindi ok yung madz siguro kasi, kakapalit lang nila ng members non. i have heard them sing ulit sa philam nung july.. galing na nila ulit! as for acgc and dlsu chorale, i guess they could also be counted as two of the best!! i have heard both choirs before they left and after they arrived from their respective trips. magaling din sila in their own way. ateneo for their expression (dynamics, etc.) and richness ng sound; i have just but one personal comment sa acgc... makapal ang sound nila pero i guess their sound is very ordinary. i love to hear acgc sing negro spirituals! galing, grabe! siguro kasi, medyo marami sila and i guess that's the reason kung bakit makapal and sound nila. ang dlsu chorale naman, may unique na sound-- kakaiba siya from other groups and i guess that is what makes dlsu chorale dlsu chorale. one more thing.. and linis nilang kumanta, grabe! talagang crystal clear! yun nga lang, sana magdagdag sila ng members lalo na sa lalaki.

dagobert

Aug 21, 2000, 10:18 PM

winner:

that's true . . . our sound is different (especially the sopranos) and all music critics in our international trips agree on that . . . weird nga e, but that's actually our winning point . . . as for the members, dlsu is not really the "arts" school . . . the biggest group that we ever had was composed of 26 members way back in 1995 (before the 95 tour) . . . well, good luck na lang sa amin!

Originally posted by winner!!:
ang dlsu chorale naman, may unique na sound-- kakaiba siya from other groups and i guess that is what makes dlsu chorale dlsu chorale. one more thing.. and linis nilang kumanta, grabe! talagang crystal clear! yun nga lang, sana magdagdag sila ng members lalo na sa lalaki.[/B]

Boccelli

Aug 22, 2000, 12:04 AM

Hi people,

I have read all your comments about all the good University choirs from the Philippines.
I would just like to share my thoughts on the topic. Before anything else I would just like to say that all of these choirs are absolutely world class...

I feel that the Madz should not be even part of the list because I feel that they already are the "official choir" of the Philippines for they have been in the choral scene for quite sometime and I'm not so sure if they did drop the University of the Philippines portion of their name.. coz sometimes I see their name as Philippine Madrigal Singers...

To be honest, I love the Madz especially the 89 batch... they for me are the best. Interpretation and intensity-wise, that batch was the best.

Ok seeing that I did put the Madz to a different level, I have three choirs on my mind when I think of the "Best University Choirs of the Philippines"...

1) DLSU Chorale - touted to be the youngest of the Choirs in the elite group of World Class Philippine Choirs, this young group has made a name for itself since the mid-90s where they have competed in various prestigous competitions in Europe: (i.e. Competitions in Tampere-Finland, Oskarshammn-Finland, Arnhem-the Netherlands, Spittal-Austria, Cantonigros-Spain) and because of these accolades, the choir was then invited to be the representative of South East Asia in the 5th WORLD SYMPOSIUM ON CHORAL MUSIC in Rotterdam, the Netherlands in 1999. The DLSU Chorale had the pressure of upholding the reputation of Filipino choirs abroad and that they did and even more. Coming after the very intense Inchun Choir of Korea, the group wowed the audience to unlimited standing ovations. Addind to this momentous event, the chorale also won Golden Diplomas from the 2nd Felix Mendelsohn-Bartholdy International Choral Competition in the A1 Category(where the group received a Special Prize for their astounding performance of the competition piece (if I'm not mistaken the judges ended up teary eyed after the group performed the competition piece filled with emotion and intensity). The 1st Johannes Brahms International Choral Competition will now continuously proclaim the DLSU Chorale as one of its memorable participants after captivating the audience during the folkloric competition where the choir received the highest score in the entire competition. The DLSU Chorale was also invited to the 1st International Choral Festival in Slovenija.

That previous paragraph was just to show that the DLSU Chorale, although young, has been constantly proving itself to be part of the elite choral groups of the Philippines.

2) UST Singers - I love them... They are very skilled in hitting those hard to reach notes. Interpretations of classical music would probably be their forte. I have been following them for the past three years and I heard that they will be coming out with a new CD which they recorded in Germany. Their past two cds (1998 & 1999) were both very pleasurable to listen to.. except they do admit that the 1999 one was a little bit off(sila nagsabi non)... but I heard the 2000 cd is awesome.. Guys good luck on your competitions... You have a better version of Psalm something (the one with Laudate Domino)

3) Ateneo College Glee Club - Since the last time I saw them was in 1995 and their ASEAN Tour I didn't really think they were such an astounding choir UNTIL, 1999 when they performed in DLSU whereby I thought they had it going. I am so proud of them when I heard that they won Tours, Cork, gold diplomas in Riva del Garda and others... I kinda expected they will win because they have a good batch now. I give my congratulations to their president Me-Ann...
You have done such a great job!... I love your Elijah Rock

Comments: (Please take them constructively)

DLSU Chorale - too many songs with obligatos, please try to balance your repertoire. Capitalize on your female section but don't leave the male section behind. More intensity with the altos, Sopranos are good. Needs more emotion with the pieces. Tenor section very good. Bass good but could only be improved with additional members.. But i would just like to say that you have done well in last years competitions being that you won with only 3 basses.

UST Singers - CD-wise, sometimes sopranos clash. Great tenor and bass section. Altos more intensity and inner sound.

Ateneo Glee Club - intensify tenor section and capitalize on the light quality of your soprano. Altos are good but need more inner sound. Bass... more intensity.

Fortes:

DLSU Chorale - Secular, Madrigals, Spirituals, Ethnic, Pop

UST Singers - Sacred, Pop, Spirituals, International Folk

Ateneo Glee Club - Sacred, Spirituals

So... I hope this was enlightening to someone!

arnhem

Aug 22, 2000, 12:43 AM

Sumasang-ayon ako sa iyo Boccelli. Sa abut ng aking nalalaman at base na rin sa aking karanasan, hindi nagaaway o nagsisiraan ang mga miyembro ng coro. Natatawa na lang ako doon sa taong laging puna na puna sa mga grupo... meron na bang naimbentong gamot para sa mga taong may "CRAB MENTALITY"? nakakaawa naman sila!

johhnybbad: Naging maayos naman ang pagtatanghal ng chorale noong Sabado, sayang nga at nagkasabay ang concert ninyo. Saan ba ako maaaring makabili ng inyong CD? Maaari ba akong makabili sa inyong pagtatatnghal sa Agosto 28?

elijah: you said na "magagalit si Mr. Joel Navarro, Mr. Fidel Calalang, Mrs. Veneracion"... malamang hindi kasi di sila magaaksaya ng kanilang oras sa ganitong klase ng usapan. Good luck sa iyo at sa pang-aalipusta mo... naging member ka na ba ng isa sa mga choir na sinasabi mo? DON'T BOTHER TO ANSWER, AS FAR AS I KNOW, WALANG MAY "CRAB MENTALITY SA KANILA!"

karen_c

Aug 22, 2000, 12:47 AM

2JohnnyBBad: I think the next concert of the DLSU Chorale will be held next year pa, mga first quarter.

karen_c

Aug 22, 2000, 12:53 AM

Good answer Arnhem!!!

Boccelli

Aug 22, 2000, 02:35 AM

By the way, Congratulations to the DLSU Chorale for their very successful 13th Year Anniversary Concert....

In reaction to people who seem to think The Chorale sings mostly pop, I would think that its because they would like to cater to their audience and what would please their audience would be pop music. They do perform sacred, madrigal, folk and spiritual music but because they don't wish to make the repertoire too heavy for the listeners they include more pop or fun music which the audience can relate to. I have seen a lot of Choral concerts in the US and Europe and I feel that that is the edge of Filipino choirs especially the DLSU Chorale. They have a good mix of songs for concerts or performances.

Actually, I know for a fact that because one of the Chorale's forte is pop, they have won competitions because of highly technical and artistic interpretations of pop music.

What people seem to see in the Chorale would be their slight similarity to the Madz...

1) The Chorale is usually composed of, more or less, 20 members (like the Madz)...

2) Intensity is a big thing for both choirs which is what they are both known for...

3) Interpretation is also an integral part of these two groups...

But of course, the Madz would definitely have the edge in terms of experience.

The Philippine International Choral Festival held in 1998 could not be considered as a testing ground for the the Chorale and the Madz..... it was held so that different choirs could interact and learn from each other. Both choirs got standing ovations and that just meant that the audience loved their performance.

I would also like to cite the PNU Chorale for their performances. They are a choir to look forward to in the coming years.

By the way, the UST Singers and DLSU Chorale have a very good relationship.... I won't be surprised if they have a concert together back-to-back or even combined... seeing that they are both Manila choirs (like UP and Ateneo is to QC)... they could come up with something like a "Himig Manila" kind of concert..

On a personal note.... are you DJ's cousin Nicole?... does she know you are writing all this stuff on this bulletin board?

JohnnyBBad

Aug 22, 2000, 04:09 AM

Hmmmm who's my favorite choir? I guess it has to be the UP Saring Himig/Camerata Singers. Sad to say they're now defunct :( They were active during the early to mid-80's and was led by the great George Hernandez. i personally never heard them live, but Joel Navarro lent me some recordings of them in Europe, and whoa!!! I was just blown of my seat listening to it. Think opera chorus minus the obtrusive vibrato. All the sections were so thick and rich! I don't think I've ever heard a Filipino choir sound that way. That's most probably where Fidel Calalang got his model sound for the UST Singers, and some of his interpretations as well (siyempre, galing sa sa choir na yon eh! heheheheh :)

Dagobert: when's your next concert? I wanted to watch yours last Saturday but we had a repeat homecomming concert of our own, so dehins ako nakanood :( How did it go? Hey, joint concert naman tayo! Sa Ateneo muna, tapos sa inyo, para maiba naman! We're having a joint concert ourselves with Madz on Aug. 28, Mon., at CCP. Hope you and your choir can watch :)

Bocelli: thanks for your honest assesment of our choir. I hope you can watch us sa CCP with the Madz to see how we've evolved since you saw us last year :) And needless to say, your inputs would be highly appreciated :)

JohnnyBBad

Aug 22, 2000, 03:54 PM

Thought for the day: Is it me, or when somebody says that this choir is good or, is he ususally refering to the sound of the choir per se? It seems that the posts here generally refer to a choir that's good only becuse "maganda ang tunog nila, etc." But if you ask me, it's not only the sound in itself that should be the sole consideration in the critical analysis of a choir. Style for me ranks even higer than the sound per se. A choir with a extraordinary sound eventually becomes extremely boring if they sound the same in a negro spirirtual as in a madrigal, or a Filipino folksong as in a french chanson. The repertoire factor should also be considered. I have high respect and awe for the choirs that dare tackle "difficult" repertoire, specially if they build their reputation on it (*wink, wink* at Philippine Chamber Choir hehehehhehe)

arnhem: congratulations (and tot he other PExers who are part of the La Salle Chorale as well :) ! I really wanted to watch you guys but....well, until your next concert then. Hmmmm, we have three new CD's right now: the one we recorded last year (An Offering), the one we recorded in Germany (self-titled album - but it kinda sucks if you ask me), and the CD with the boottleg recordings on MD that we did on various concerts in Europe. But I personally recomend the bootleg CD because it contains the "official" recordings of the Tour, Cork, and Slovenia competitions (those were from the copies they gave us). If you want to get a copy (and for those PExers who want na rin) just e-mail me personally and I'll get back to you :) As for the Madz/Glee Club thingie, it's the NCCA that's produsing it, and I heard there are only a limited number of tickets available. Contact them if you want, or then again, maybe it's out at the CCP box-office already

To the other PExers who are members of other choirs: kailana ang mga concerts nyo? Inform us naman so we can you. Let's support each other's efforts! MABUHAY ANG MGA PILIPINONG MANG-AAWIT!!!

Bocelli: are you a tenor?

arnhem

Aug 22, 2000, 05:15 PM

2 johnnybbad: so where can i buy that CD? and how much? you can e-mail me through this address- kikokalog@usa.net. thanks and hope to here from you soon. :)

hope you and the chorale can have a back to back concert, maybe next year... same concept as "An evening of european music." What do you think? is that possible? if ever, the proceeds will go to "tabang mindanao." it's a good idea to explore...

arnhem

Aug 22, 2000, 05:19 PM

dagobert

Aug 22, 2000, 11:36 PM

yeah, a back-to-back concert with acgc is a nice idea . . . para naman ma-neutralize and uaap rivalry natin . . . actually, way back in 1995 (january), ust, dlsu, upsa and acgc had a mega-grand concert at the ccp main . . . ganda siguro kung mauulit yon!!

btw, if you are interested to buy dlsu chorale 1995 cd, please post it here . . . actually, ubos na but we're thinking of having it reproduced due to demand . . .

ciao!

Genius101

Aug 23, 2000, 12:04 AM

Glad to hear at least some injustice mitigated on our part... Pero tama na nga ang away.

JohnnyBBad: Could you give some more details about your back-to-back concert with the Madz? I'm really interested in watching... Maybe I can find time kahit may pasok. =(

Dagobert: Sana nga magreproduce ng 95 cd... wala ako non e. Yun namang 99, paubos na pero di bale na lang. Ang pangit e! ;) Anyway pati 99 cd ko nawawala.

Elijah: Sorry about the hot words. Pero I can't really say they were uncalled for. Peace na lang.

elijah

Aug 23, 2000, 12:09 AM

Originally posted by Genius101:

Elijah: Sorry about the hot words. Pero I can't really say they were uncalled for. Peace na lang.

...apologies, accepted! sorry din sa mga harsh conclusions ko- galit na nga sakin si Nicole and DJ eh. hehehehehehe

...newei- what is the buzzing news about the competition for the GRAND PRIX? sabi-maglalaban daw ang AGC and UST-AS? for all we know...they might emerge as both champion!
kung totoo lang.

anyone here na nakapanood ng 10th Anniversary Concert ng VOICE OF MANILA ni Sir.Robert Delgado?

...sino rin ang may gustong magkaroon ng published book ng mga compilation of arrangements and compositions ni Sir.Robert's songs?pls. post here kung interested kayo.

Boccelli

Aug 23, 2000, 06:11 AM

I would just like to post some of the most memorable songs I have heard the different choirs from the Philippines sing:

Ateneo Glee Club
>; Elijah Rock
>; that Bahasa(Malay/Indonesia?) song I heard from a tape a friend of mine lent me of their ASEAN tour in 95

UST Singers
>; Duerme Negrito
>; O Vos Omnes
>; Ikaw Lamang (with that soloist that sounded like Rachel Alejandro)
>; Waway
>; Denn Herr hat Seinen Engel Befohlen

DLSU Chorale
>; My Heart Will Go On - when it was sung in Slovenia
>; Pater Noster - sung at the Felix Mendelshon-Bartholdy competition in Germany
>; Bahay
>; the back-to-back version of Dumbele and Ilay Gandangan
>; Psalmus
>; Singet Dem Herrn Ein Neus Lied
>; Fire, Fire
>; Che Se tu seil chor Mio
>; Mamayog Akun (95 Batch)
>; all the pop songs!!! hehehehehe

Madz
>; Che Se tu seil chor Mio ('89 batch)
>; Gloria (Cayabyab with Kuya Edward singing the solo
>; Pokpok Alimpakopok (89 Batch)

I agree with JohnnyBBad, its all about style and delivery!

The undeniable edge that top Filipino Choirs have over the other choirs from all over the world would be style.

The mere fact that we evoke emotion from singing pieces just totally captivate judges.
Expression and intensity is another factor to consider.

But lately, I have been noticing the emergence of choirs from the other parts of southeast asia like from Singapore, Indonesia and Malaysia. They too have been making waves abroad. I kinda feel that they probably have been observing us and get good pointers from us and end up using them come competition time! Oh well, I guess its ok.

What our mission should be now that these other choirs have gained on us is to keep on improving our craft.

I would love to see these songs sung by the following choirs:

Ateneo Glee Club
>; anything by Clement Jannequin
>; Ave Maria by Bruckner
>; Ilay Gandangan and Dumbele
>; get the Pater Noster piece from the Chorale .. that's a nice song!

UST Singers
>; probably same as above

DLSU Chorale
>; O Vos Omnes
>; Duerme Negrito
>; Clement Jannequin's Le Guerre

Golden Laurels for every one!!! KUDOS!!!!

I want to have CDs from ACGC and UST!!!!

P.S. Medyo di nga masyadong maganda yung 99 CD ng DLSU Chorale but there are some songs there worthy of praise...

Take care guys!!!

karen_c

Aug 23, 2000, 09:32 AM

[/B]DLSU Chorale
>; My Heart Will Go On - when it was sung in Slovenia
>; Pater Noster - sung at the Felix Mendelshon-Bartholdy competition in Germany
>; Bahay
>; the back-to-back version of Dumbele and Ilay Gandangan
>; Psalmus
>; Singet Dem Herrn Ein Neus Lied
>; Fire, Fire
>; Che Se tu seil chor Mio
>; Mamayog Akun (95 Batch)
>; all the pop songs!!! hehehehehe

[/B][/QUOTE]

Hi Bocelli!!! di ba double c ang spelling ng pangalan mo? anyway, you seem to know many songs sung by the DLSU Chorale? Are you a member or a former member? What's your favorite POP song? --->; HULING EL BIMBO? =)

karen_c

Aug 23, 2000, 09:36 AM

To Dagobert: That would really be a nice idea kung magkaron ng back to back concert ang DLSU Chorale at ang ACGC!!! Something I should watch (sana puede...). Maybe you could organize this joint concert para mag-push-through!!! =)

karen_c

Aug 23, 2000, 09:50 AM

BOCCELLI!!! Sorry kung nagkamali ako ng basa sa spelling ng pangalan mo ha... malabo na mata ko e. How are you?

whoopie

Aug 23, 2000, 10:52 AM

I am looking forward to that back to back concert of the DLSU Chorale and Ateneo College Glee Club! Sana nga magkaron. I won't miss it for the world!=)

Zack

Aug 23, 2000, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by Boccelli:
Hi people,

I feel that the Madz should not be even part of the list because I feel that they already are the "official choir" of the Philippines for they have been in the choral scene for quite sometime and I'm not so sure if they did drop the University of the Philippines portion of their name.. coz sometimes I see their name as Philippine Madrigal Singers...

YEAH!! TAMA KA ...PHILIPPINE MADRIGAL SINGERS IS THE OFFICIAL CHOIR OF THE PHILIPPINES.... THEY ARE NOT ANYMORE A UNIVERSITY CHOIR. THE CHOIR IS THE RESIDENT CHOIR OF THE CULTURAL CENTER OF THE PHILIPPINES SO HINDI NA KASALI ANG PHILIPPINE MADRIGAL SINGERS IN THIS KIND OF CATEGORY....

JohnnyBBad

Aug 23, 2000, 02:22 PM

Okay folks, the Maz and Glee Club concert at the CCP Little Theater is being held on Mon, Aug. 28, at 7 pm (I think - am not sure of the time thought). It's the ususal format of a joint concert, we sing 13 songs and they sing around the same number of songs, and then we have 4 joint numbers. Funny, I talked to Chris Borela during our repeat concert last Saturday, at pati siya, clueless kung anong mangyayari :) It was suppossed to be a strictly invitational concert but apparently, NCCA decided to release a limited number of tickets. As to where and when they're going to release it, I actually have no idea. Why don't you guys try contacting the CCP box-office. Baka meron na doon.

Arnhem: am sending you my contact numbers through the e-mail. Hope to hear from you, too - soon! :)

Boccelli: we've already sung Les chant des ouiseux by Janequin, and we were also suppose to attempt La guerre fro Tolosa, pero ang haba eh (in other words, tamad to memeorize! ahahahahhaha) Ilay Gandangan is also in our repertoire, staple ethnic namin for the past 5 million years (yawn...why don't arrangers/composers come out with new ethnic pieces? Puro recycled ethnic ang kinakanta na ng mga choirs, like ang mga walang kamatayang Chua-ay, Iddem-dem, Mamayug, Pokpok, etc. We need new ethnic repertoire!!!) Are you refering to the Pater Noster of Busto? Again, we were suppose to use that as a competition piece in Tour, France, we already studied it it and was in the process of polishing it when Joel decided to use the Pater Noster of Calalang instead - I guess for the added Filipino repertoire factor :)

Dagobert: yep, a joint concert would be great! Lemme float that idea to the GC. Would sometime early next year be amenable to you guys?

Karen C: ako rin, gusto kong panooring yun! hehehehehe That's the problem with performers - they never get tot watch their own performances! (labo..... :) )

Boss Elijah: UST will be competing next week pa pala sa Arezzo. If they win the Grand Prix there, we'll be meeting each other in Arezzo next year :)

MABUHAY ANG MGA FILIPINO CHOIRS!

P.S. Boss Elijah: Magkano yung compilation ng pieces ni Robert?

elijah

Aug 23, 2000, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by JohnnyBBad:
Boss Elijah: UST will be competing next week pa pala sa Arezzo. If they win the Grand Prix there, we'll be meeting each other in Arezzo next year :)

P.S. Boss Elijah: Magkano yung compilation ng pieces ni Robert?

...i'll give you nalang a copy, just email me nalang, i have 5 books eh-hindi ko nga alam kung papano kong ipapamigay yung mga yun, si Sir robert kasi ang kulit. Dapat kasi, ibibigay ko yung ibang copies sa former choir ko(UST-Pharmacy Glee Club -alam mo ba yun?) eh since wala pakong nakikita kahit isang member nila ngayon dahil sa sobrang bz ako eh ibibigay ko nalang sayo yung isang copy...i think it costs in the market not less than 300 bucks...basta i-email mo ako then ok na...i'll reply immediately.ok?

...natapos n'** nabang praktisin yung Gabaq-an?

elijah

Aug 23, 2000, 05:53 PM

Zack

Aug 23, 2000, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by elijah:

...i'll give you nalang a copy, just email me nalang, i have 5 books eh-hindi ko nga alam kung papano kong ipapamigay yung mga yun, si Sir robert kasi ang kulit. Dapat kasi, ibibigay ko yung ibang copies sa former choir ko(UST-Pharmacy Glee Club -alam mo ba yun?) eh since wala pakong nakikita kahit isang member nila ngayon dahil sa sobrang bz ako eh ibibigay ko nalang sayo yung isang copy...i think it costs in the market not less than 300 bucks...basta i-email mo ako then ok na...i'll reply immediately.ok?

...natapos n'** nabang praktisin yung Gabaq-an?

uy! uy! ako rin!! san kita pede makontak!!
pls pls pls!!!!
i'm a collector of choral pieces eh..plssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!

arnhem

Aug 23, 2000, 09:31 PM

Peace! So saan naman ang concert ng voice of Manila? I haven't heard them sing. where can I contact you Elijah? Saan ako puwedeng kumuha ng book na sinasabi mo? Please!!! Peace na naman tayo eh...

Elijah wrote:
...sino rin ang may gustong magkaroon ng published book ng mga compilation of arrangements and compositions ni Sir.Robert's songs?pls. post here kung interested kayo.

... ako VERY INTERESTED! Love to collect choir pieces kasi. collector's item kasi iyon. at saka isa pa i like his style very much. email me through kikokalog@usa.net.

Boccelli

Aug 24, 2000, 12:32 AM

Hey Guys... Wassup..

JohnnyBBad...
I feel so bad that I haven't really seen the ACGC in full action(performing on stage)... I wish I was there on the 28th. I would love to see you guys perform...
Question... i heard before that ACGC was supposed to be participating in the Choir Olympics... what happened?

Karen_C.. i have a feeling I know you... hehehehehe

I have been loving what I am seeing in this message board... they're very informative and they really help out the different groups in improving their craft....

Karen_C.. what made you think my favorite would be "Huling El Bimbo"...

Any news on the Spittal competition of UST?? I am sooooo praying that they win in Arezzo.

Damn.. I really wish the DLSU Chorale competed in Tours and Varna last year.. they could've seen UST and given them extra support!!!....

I want to raise a new question.. ACGC..did your Alumni Organization give you financial support during your recent tour?

What is up with Alumni Associations and UAAP i feel that Cultural groups like yours should be given more support because not only do you give and bring prestige to your universities but also the country.

elijah.... so does that mean you are the cousin of DJ??? hehehehehehehehe does she know what you did....??? that's ok...

Genius101... why 101.. does that mean you are just studying to be a genius..just kidding dude!!!..

People.... lets all push for a grand concert which will feature UST Singers, ACGC, and the DLSU Chorale..... with the special participation of The MADZ... then for the ending.. they can all do that "Iddem-dem Malida" by Cayabyab.... i heard that piece two years ago.. very intense.... a very avante garde arrangement. its just tough to perform in a competition..too many requirements...hehehehehehe...

I agree with you JohnnyBBad that there should be new ethnic songs... i have heard a lot of Ifugao songs coz I know the former Governor of Banawe...they would sound really kewl if they were arranged as a choral piece...

Wow, Johnny..i wish i heard you sing that Jannequin song... I have heard it sung by this French choir and it was just marvelous... very funky.... Le Guerre is quite long.... have you guys heard the Le Guerre of the Madz?... the one in their Grand Prix CD... what can you say about it?

Ok.. hear from you guys soon(literally)... Take care and have a great day.

KUDOS to Filipino Choirs!

JohnnyBBad

Aug 24, 2000, 02:32 AM

For all you choir-lovin' folks who want to watch the back to back concert of the Madz and the Glee Club at the CCP Little Theater, P200 and P100 tickets are already out at the CCP box-office. My friends a couple of them yesterday, and marami-rami pa daw! Nood kayo! :)

Boss Elijah: okay, I'll e-mail you po. You're from the UST Pharmacy Glee Club pala! Hahahahaha - no wonder kilala mo si Jon and Daph!

Bocelli: UST won 3rd place in the Mixed Choir/Polyphonic (whatever they call that category in Spittal) Division, and 2nd place in the Folkloric Division. No, I don't think the Ateneo Alumni Association provided any major monetary support. If they did, it must have been so minimal I didn't hear about. The Administration itself just placed a P10,000 or P20,000 ad (I forget) in our souvenir program. But in fairness, Fr. Nebres was really supportive of us (sigh, hindi nga lang sa pera.... :)He even watched us in our Brussels concert. And, yes I have the Grand Prix CD of the Madz which I bought in Tours. You won't be surprised why they won if you listen to it :) They also have a La Guerre track in their '96 or '97 disc (the one with the blue cover) which is also nice.

arnhem: were you the one who e-mailed me?

JohnnyBBad

Aug 24, 2000, 02:45 AM

mga pahabol:

boss elijah: yep, tapos na namin aralin ang Gabaq-an. We'll be using it as one of the competion pieces for the Folkloric division in Tolosa.

bocelli: we didn't push through the the Linz Choir Olympics because we had to go back for our classes :( I heard UST was suppose to join it but backed out din. I wonder why?

cashew

Aug 24, 2000, 06:58 AM

well, ang pinakamalinis pa ring kumanta for me ay ang UST SINGERS. when it comes to diction, ATENEO GLEE CLUB. dapat lang, no!? and they're improving, ha? pero for me, ang the best pa rin ay ang MADZ. kahit madumi sila kumanta, meron pa ring "magic". in the end, hindi importante kung malinis kayo kumanta o maganda ang diction niyo. what matters most is for the choir to be able to touch the audience's hearts. :confused:

Boccelli

Aug 24, 2000, 07:25 AM

JohnnyBBad... what section are you part of with ACGC? DAMN.. i really wish i was there to watch your concert..
I think the reason why UST didn't compete in Linz is because it was in conflict with their World Expo 2000 engagement.

Cashew....hi.. i hope you would also be able to catch the DLSU Chorale sometime.. They are off to Korea for a two week long thingy there... If i'm not mistaken they were invited by this Korean choir they met in the World Symposium last year.... I do hope they do well...

Just curious... how is the present batch of the MADZ now?... i heard there are only a few people from the 97 batch.
Pero you know what.. favorite ko pa rin the 89 batch of Madz.. i loved every section... soprano, alto, tenor and bass.. sobrang galing!!!.. and si Michelle from DV8 was there pa.. They were pretty kewl...!!!

Well... have a great day guys... i going home na... i need rest!!!.. grabe... its been so hot here lately!!

Take care!

KUDOS!!!

elijah

Aug 24, 2000, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by Boccelli:
elijah.... so does that mean you are the cousin of DJ??? hehehehehehehehe does she know what you did....??? that's ok...

...alam ni delijoe 'to, kaya nga madalas kaming mag-talo tungkol dyan eh...hehehehe,mga smart arguments lang!

...anyway, Mr. Delarmente gave my former choir(UST-Pharmecy Glee Club)a 95 grade for their competition last feb. here in UST (InterCollegiate Choral Competition).

I suggest, YOU guys should watch the INTERCOLLEGIATE CHORALE COMPETITION here in UST,it's the competition between the best choir of UST from its 13 Faculties and Colleges. i should say it's one of the hardest! I think kami lang ata ang school na may ganon no? yun talagang bongga and sobrang seryosohan. anyway, manuod kayo sa Feb. basta sasabihin ko nalang kung kelan at papaano.

JohnnyBBad,

Kaya nga alam ko ang lahat eh, anyway, alumnus na ako ng UST-PGC. Narinig mo ba yung rendition ng Pharmacy Glee Club ng Gabaq-an na pinanalo nila ng Intercoll. lat Feb.? Then, itanong mo kay kuya John kung ano yung sinuot nila (UST-PGC), da best talaga, talagang fit sa Gabaq-an.

Yung mga may gusto ng Book ni Sir.Robert, eh i-email nyo nalang ako ok? 5 lang yung nasa akin...reserved na yung dalawa ta's available pa yung tatalo.

"...magbabaya, magbabaya, tanaun ang kahimtan ni imong kalibutan. gibilin mo in taun sa kamot sa tampalsan."

Ferris

Aug 24, 2000, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by kiray:
Agree ako with crispypata...

DLSU Chorale is simply the best!!!!!

A N I M O L A S A L L E ! ! !

Yah! DLSU Chorale pa rin ang THE BEST! My friend is encouraging me to join coz he's already a member of the chorale kaya lang ayoko kasi CompSci ako eh. Sobrang hectic sa sched. I'll just cheer for them na lang. Pero kung kasama ako eh di no doubt na Panalo na Talaga ng DLSU coz of my PAVAROTTI VOICE! http://www.pinoyexchange.com/lol.gif http://www.pinoyexchange.com/lol.gif

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Ferris

Aug 24, 2000, 09:57 AM

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Well, galing talga ng LA SALLE. My friend is a member of that groups already. Ineencourage niya akong sumali pero ayoko kasi hirap ng CompSci life eh. Sobrang hectic ang sched. So, I'll cheer for them na lang. Pero mas lalong gaganda ang blending ng chorale kung kasama ako siyempre. Hahahaha!

GadoGado

Aug 24, 2000, 11:02 AM

Alam niyo ba, hindi masyadong napapansin ang mga non-university choirs na magaling. Marami diyan, hindi lang sila kilala, gaya ng mga nag participate sa Concurso Coral ng Ateneo HS Glee Club last year. Magagaling din ang mga choirs na iyon kahit hindi sila official representatives ng mga universities. Sana tangkilikin din naitn sila

karen_c

Aug 24, 2000, 11:07 AM

2Boccelli: sino pa ba naman ang malabong mata na miss ka na? haha!!!

2JohnnyBBad: I would really love to watch your back to back concert with MADZ... sana makakuha pa kami ng ticket. You mentioned na it was supposed to be invitational? Kung invitational, sino yung mga i-invite? Sana talaga nagbenta na lang sila ng tickets kasi I'm sure so many people (who would not be invited probably...) would love to watch this concert.

2Elijah: How's DJ?

2Whoopie: Manonood ka rin? Sabay tayo? May date ka?

GadoGado

Aug 24, 2000, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by Ferris:

Yah! DLSU Chorale pa rin ang THE BEST! My friend is encouraging me to join coz he's already a member of the chorale kaya lang ayoko kasi CompSci ako eh. Sobrang hectic sa sched. I'll just cheer for them na lang. Pero kung kasama ako eh di no doubt na Panalo na Talaga ng DLSU coz of my PAVAROTTI VOICE! http://www.pinoyexchange.com/lol.gif http://www.pinoyexchange.com/lol.gif

FYI. Hindi kailangan ng pavarotti voice para gumaling ang isang choir, in fact pag sumali ang isang taong may ganong boses, baka masira lang ang blending ng choir dahil magsti-stick out siya. Masisira lang ang choir dahil sa mga vibrato niya.

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karen_c

Aug 24, 2000, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by GadoGado:
Alam niyo ba, hindi masyadong napapansin ang mga non-university choirs na magaling. Marami diyan, hindi lang sila kilala, gaya ng mga nag participate sa Concurso Coral ng Ateneo HS Glee Club last year. Magagaling din ang mga choirs na iyon kahit hindi sila official representatives ng mga universities. Sana tangkilikin din naitn sila

Hi GadoGado! I'm sure the people know that there are also non-university choirs na magaling... siguro lang di nila na-me-mention because ang topic dito is ang pinakamagaling na university choral group. I got to watch the concert at the Ateneo and I can say na all the choirs were good... I would especially like to commend the St. Scho Marikina glee club... galing... =) Are you a member of any choir which participated dun sa concert?

karen_c

Aug 24, 2000, 11:23 AM

Tama yung sinabi ni GadoGado!!! Hindi mo kailangan ang ganong klase ng boses para makapagpaganda ng choral group. In fact, minsan nga di pa tinatanggap ng mga choral groups ang mga taong may ganong boses at excessive vibrato!!! Sus ko ha! Imagine mo na lang kung tenor ka at ang katabi mo ay may makabasag pinggan na boses... teps! Bingi ka na!!!

I think what most choirs look for sa members is yung magaling makakuha ng tono and yung makakasundo rin nila siyempre. Sometimes nga ang kinukuha pagdating ng auditions, yung may mga simpleng boses na walang habit pero madaling i-train.

TO FERRIS: Bakit di mo i-try mag-audition sa DLSU Chorale...

elijah

Aug 24, 2000, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by karen_c:

2Elijah: How's DJ?

tagal na naming di nag-kikita eh...siya parin ba prexy n'**? dapat nga punta ako dyan last year para manood ng mga practices nyo, eh kaya lang nag-2-loy siya sa masteral niya diba? 2-muloy ba siya?

aalis yata sila ni tita del(prof.Bago) eh, makakasama ba siya sa inyo?

elijah

Aug 24, 2000, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by karen_c:
I think what most choirs look for sa members is yung magaling makakuha ng tono and yung makakasundo rin nila siyempre. Sometimes nga ang kinukuha pagdating ng auditions, yung may mga simpleng boses na walang habit pero madaling i-train.

...idagdag mo pa ang dedication and the will to learn more, plus the value of respect, patience and perseverance. hindi rin naman kailangan ng sobrang gandang boses...as long as u can get the note quickly and rightly, i think ok na, plus yung mga sinabi ko sa taas...

yan ang mga kailangan para di ka ma-mura ng conductor mo....hehehehehe, kala nyo seryoso no?

arnhem

Aug 24, 2000, 02:01 PM

2 elijah: Hindi na president si DJ. kung nanood ka ng concert ng chorale last sat. yoong soloist ng "Pakiusap." Si Liaa. Galing niya no? What's you're e-mail address ba? I wanna have a copy of Mr. Delgado's compositions.

2johnnybbad: i'll be watching your concert on Monday. Anong repertoire niyo? Goodluck! yes, i was the one who e-mailed you.

Originally posted by elijah:
...idagdag mo pa ang dedication and the will to learn more, plus the value of respect, patience and perseverance. hindi rin naman kailangan ng sobrang gandang boses...as long as u can get the note quickly and rightly, i think ok na, plus yung mga sinabi ko sa taas...

... correct ka diyan elijah.

yan ang mga kailangan para di ka ma-mura ng conductor mo....hehehehehe, kala nyo seryoso no?[/QUOTE]

... pero minsan it helps, yoong minumura ka ng conductor mo.

elijah: please! yoong book ni sir robert...

Zack

Aug 24, 2000, 03:00 PM

SINO DITO PEDE MAHINGIAN NG CHORAL PIECES. MGA PASSE NA YUNG SA AKIN EH. PLS.... EMAIL NIYO AKO: simikelto@yahoo.com

Monteverdi

Aug 24, 2000, 06:47 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Boccelli:

Wow, Johnny..i wish i heard you sing that Jannequin song... I have heard it sung by this French choir and it was just marvelous... very funky.... Le Guerre is quite long.... have you guys heard the Le Guerre of the Madz?... the one in their Grand Prix CD... what can you say about it?
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Hi! What French choir are you writing about? Is it the one called Ensemble Jannequin? If it is, you're right...it is funky talaga! The bird effects will just blow's ones mind off.

I have 97 MADZ CD and their La Guerre is great. I have heard it being interpreted by no less than 8 ensembles from all over the world, and the MADZ version is no doubt the second best i've heard...the best would be by the King's Singers...their performance of this 6 minute madrigal is probably one of the best a cappella performances on record, regardless of genre.

The Madz version is unique in a sense that it was performed in a "romantic way". Nice clear lines. The tenors sound great!

I wish the DLSU chorale attempts this piece. Among the local choirs, they seem to have the most appropriate sound for madrigal singing, since ideally these pieces are for very small groups. Besides they have a very, very clean sound and outstanding tuning.

Goodluck to UST. Hope you win in Arrezzo! Imagine, two Filipino choirs at next year's European Grand Prix!

winner!!

Aug 24, 2000, 11:10 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by dagobert:
[B]winner:

that's true . . . our sound is different (especially the sopranos) and all music critics in our international trips agree on that . . . weird nga e, but that's actually our winning point . . . as for the members, dlsu is not really the "arts" school . . . the biggest group that we ever had was composed of 26 members way back in 1995 (before the 95 tour) . . . well, good luck na lang sa amin!

well, pansin ko nga! galing ng sound niyo kasi eh! pinong-pino! kelan ang alis niyo ulit?

winner!!

Aug 24, 2000, 11:33 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Boccelli:
[B]Hi people,

I have read all your comments about all the good University choirs from the Philippines.
I would just like to share my thoughts on the topic. Before anything else I would just like to say that all of these choirs are absolutely world class...

I feel that the Madz should not be even part of the list because I feel that they already are the "official choir" of the Philippines for they have been in the choral scene for quite sometime and I'm not so sure if they did drop the University of the Philippines portion of their name.. coz sometimes I see their name as Philippine Madrigal Singers...

To be honest, I love the Madz especially the 89 batch... they for me are the best. Interpretation and intensity-wise, that batch was the best.

tama ka diyan! sabi nga nila, madz is an institution already! alam mo, for me, the best din yung 89 batch ng madz. ang galing ni jenny v.! ringless yung obligato niya ng ili-ili! pero that was before. anyway, i've heard them nung choral fest sa ccp.. okay lang. pero when i heard them again this july, galing na nila ulit!! speaking of their concert nung july, i heard their duerme negrito and i guess mass m