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chOirbOy`
Nov 7, 2001, 05:09 AM
hi guys!

am the 'boy abunda' of this channel.

sorry markus_creed, di talaga ako yung pinaparatangan mo. we obviously know each other para masabi mo yang mga bagay na yan.

this reply is not intended to be in my defense, but sana naman eh you were not that 'touchy' and personal.

lahat ng groups ay may mga strong and weak points, and i hope that next time, if you feel that ang pinag uusapan dito eh yung grupo mo at medyo nega ang topic - please do take it constructively and not against your craft.

choral music is a very broad topic that most of the discussions here merely touches its surface. and in describing the sound of a particular group besides using personal tastes, we rely upon our musical knowledge- how profound or shallow man yun...

so i guess the comments here do reflect the writers' knowledge of the topic.

bato-bato sa langit, tamaan wag magagalit.

yun lang!!

twisted2
Nov 7, 2001, 05:54 AM
hay nako, kakaloka tong thead nato!

the morals of the story

dont start something or anything you can not stop nor defend when the situation is that it slips out of your hand.

never lie about your identity - if they happen to know you na - di mo na kailangan mag deny. diba montiverdi!?

at wag mag sourgrape kung di ka man nakapasa sa auditions.

you are the weakest link. goodbye!

markus_creed
Nov 7, 2001, 06:30 AM
choirboy


Whatever............

markus_creed
Nov 7, 2001, 06:33 AM
whatever.......

markus_creed
Nov 7, 2001, 06:39 AM
Hoy Jeckyll and Hyde. Nag-usap yata kayo e. Si Monteverdi nag post ng 7:40 pm, tapos si Choirboy 8:09pm, napaka ganda ng timing ninyong dalawa.

choirmaster
Nov 7, 2001, 09:13 AM
To everyone:

Heto na ang lola ninyo... papasok na naman sa usapan kasi hindi na matiis ang katigasan ng ulo ng isang sumusulat.

Markus Creed:

Kilala ko ang dalawang tao na nagngangalang Monteverdi at Choir Boy. Sila ay mabuting kaibigan. Hindi sila nagmamarunong at maayos ang kanilang mga sinusulat dito sa thread na ito. Hindi ko alam kung ano ang galit mo kay choir boy, na napagkamalan mong si Monteverdi, pero kung may lakas ng loob ka na mag-flame dito sa thread na ito, magkaroon ka rin ng lakas ng loob na magpakilala sa akin personally, para maayos ko ang misconceptions mo.

Huwag kayong magtatago sa ilalim ng mga peace peace ninyo diyan. Ang hirap sa iba sa ating mga tagasulat, titira ng titira, tapos magtatago sa ilalim ng peace, dahil ayaw nilang matira.

Ngayon, kung hindi ka naniniwala sa akin pag sinabi kong dalawang tao yang si choir boy at si monteverdi, wala na akong magagawa sa iyo kundi i-ignore ka and your comments.

Huwag pagalitin ang lola!

Choirmother

P.S. Hindi pala yun ang pakay ko kaya sumulat ako uli dito. Kakanta ang SAN MIGUEL MASTER CHORALE sa Carmelite Convent sa Gilmore (hindi sa Mt. Carmel Church sa Broadway) sa November 18, Sunday, during the 6 pm mass. Punta na habang wala pang bayad! Yun lang...

Pattie
Nov 7, 2001, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by Zack
... I think the most imperative thing for us is to be acquainted with what the choral group has something for us, what the piece expresses, and what the composer had in mind when he composed it...
... Kudos to ALL great Philippine choirs who have won and represented and who will be representing our country in any global competition. May you serve as stimulating groups to others to achieve their reverie.

I think this guy is right... Buti na lang may peacemaker tayo like Zack :)

Boccelli
Nov 7, 2001, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by choirmaster

P.S. Hindi pala yun ang pakay ko kaya sumulat ako uli dito. Kakanta ang SAN MIGUEL MASTER CHORALE sa Carmelite Convent sa Gilmore (hindi sa Mt. Carmel Church sa Broadway) sa November 18, Sunday, during the 6 pm mass. Punta na habang wala pang bayad! Yun lang...

Pasensya na sa kagagahan ko pero san ba ang Gilmore... you know naman medyo matagal akong nawala sa pinas.. (chengkeh!!)

Pero in all zinzerity... san po yun Carmelite Convent... gusto kong makanood.... este mag mass while the SMMC sings sa misa. Ano po ba ang kakantahin niyo? ito po ba ay surprise??? :)

Salamat nga pala sa pagintervene sa nakakalowkang bangayan at talakan dito.. :)

Na-finalize na po ba ang concert of 2002?

zion
Nov 7, 2001, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by choirmaster
To everyone:

Heto na ang lola ninyo... papasok na naman sa usapan kasi hindi na matiis ang katigasan ng ulo ng isang sumusulat.

Markus Creed:

Kilala ko ang dalawang tao na nagngangalang Monteverdi at Choir Boy. Sila ay mabuting kaibigan. Hindi sila nagmamarunong at maayos ang kanilang mga sinusulat dito sa thread na ito. Hindi ko alam kung ano ang galit mo kay choir boy, na napagkamalan mong si Monteverdi, pero kung may lakas ng loob ka na mag-flame dito sa thread na ito, magkaroon ka rin ng lakas ng loob na magpakilala sa akin personally, para maayos ko ang misconceptions mo.

Huwag kayong magtatago sa ilalim ng mga peace peace ninyo diyan. Ang hirap sa iba sa ating mga tagasulat, titira ng titira, tapos magtatago sa ilalim ng peace, dahil ayaw nilang matira.

Ngayon, kung hindi ka naniniwala sa akin pag sinabi kong dalawang tao yang si choir boy at si monteverdi, wala na akong magagawa sa iyo kundi i-ignore ka and your comments.

Huwag pagalitin ang lola!

Choirmother

P.S. Hindi pala yun ang pakay ko kaya sumulat ako uli dito. Kakanta ang SAN MIGUEL MASTER CHORALE sa Carmelite Convent sa Gilmore (hindi sa Mt. Carmel Church sa Broadway) sa November 18, Sunday, during the 6 pm mass. Punta na habang wala pang bayad! Yun lang...
I meant my "peace" well....
PEACE :D

choirmaster
Nov 7, 2001, 08:23 PM
Boccelli:

If you're coming from Ortigas going towards Quezon City and E. Rodriguez, Ortigas becomes Gilmore after N. Domingo. Bale, Ortigas muna siya, tapos tatawid ka ng Santolan, tapos tatawid ka ng N. Domingo. Pagkatawid mo ng N. Domingo, the Carmelite Convent is at your right, pagkatapos ng isang used car sales ekk sa kanto.

choirmother

Zack
Nov 7, 2001, 09:54 PM
ChinoR, Pattie - Thanks for the post :)

dagobert
Nov 8, 2001, 01:26 AM
Originally posted by chOirbOy`

lahat ng groups ay may mga strong and weak points, and i hope that next time, if you feel that ang pinag uusapan dito eh yung grupo mo at medyo nega ang topic - please do take it constructively and not against your craft.

choral music is a very broad topic that most of the discussions here merely touches its surface. and in describing the sound of a particular group besides using personal tastes, we rely upon our musical knowledge- how profound or shallow man yun...




pahabol: the violent reactions that stem from comments (with or without ill intention) are attributable to the fact that choir members who have joined local and/or overseas competition have invested so much time, energy and dedication to their craft. their achievements, whether recent or long-forgotten, stand as testament to what they had achieved with unbelievable commitment, determination and sacrifice. our craft is indeed a personal matter.

Monteverdi
Nov 8, 2001, 03:25 AM
Originally posted by twisted2
hay nako, kakaloka tong thead nato!

the morals of the story

dont start something or anything you can not stop nor defend when the situation is that it slips out of your hand.

never lie about your identity - if they happen to know you na - di mo na kailangan mag deny. diba montiverdi!?

at wag mag sourgrape kung di ka man nakapasa sa auditions.

you are the weakest link. goodbye!

to: twisted2
cc: Markus

Im not denying my identity! I dont understand what you mean....just to make it clear, I refuted his accusations and claims cuz he was evidently mixing his characters. I know he wants to flame me and my comments, but he got very personal in his below-the-belt comments with the wrong guy naman...sino ba talaga ang kagalit niya??

I called up choirboy and told him everything. And of course, he is entitled to his statements cuz pagkatao niya na ang pinaguusapan...which is way off line in these pages.

So just to clarify things again...i DONT deny my identity. A good number of people here know me personally, by face. I wont deny my own limitations as a music fan, but at the same time I stand by what I have written because...as the slogan of these web site says: speak your mind. I believe naman I try to put a basis to everything I write, I research them carefully. If ever people think what Ive, or somebody else has, written is wrong, then he or she is very much entitled to refute whatever is written....diba??
(not insult/hit/comment below-the-belt...which is really not good).

Well, let's just avoid being personal. It may be funny sometimes, but it is never nice in the long run.

Monteverdi
Nov 8, 2001, 04:00 AM
Originally posted by dagobert



pahabol: the violent reactions that stem from comments (with or without ill intention) are attributable to the fact that choir members who have joined local and/or overseas competition have invested so much time, energy and dedication to their craft. their achievements, whether recent or long-forgotten, stand as testament to what they had achieved with unbelievable commitment, determination and sacrifice. our craft is indeed a personal matter.

hello dagobert!

Ikaw kilala mo ako diba? :)

Of course we all know how hard it is to compete. The hours of rehearsal, the anxiety, the pressure to bring home the bacon. etc,etc...Indeed, it should be a personal matter because choristers invest A LOT into competition preparation. The SACRIFICES are great and the whole thing becomes an ORDEAL.

What choirboy meant siguro was that let our discussions be objective. Not personal and demeaning to anyone's person.

I never invalidated all your efforts, my idea is that competitions are not an end in itself that every choir/group should exist for. It is a yardstick, a measure of the choir's improvement and progress in its artistic endeavors.

Many excellent choirs do not need competitions to be called good. Our conductors who have understood the craft know competitions serve a purpose other than to back a claim to greatness/superiority over others.

RIAS Kammerchor is one fine choir that to my knowledge has not joined any competition. At least because in their dossier, they never mention that they have joined any. Yet I really consider them a really accomplished group. This is precisely my point. It doesnt mean dahil hindi ka nanalo sa isang contest di k na magaling, eh *** about the other choirs: Cambridge Singers, Tallis Scholars, Eric Ericson's choirs, PCC, Bukas Palad, etc...they are great and magaling in their own chosen niche. Kaya I said competitions are not the benchmark of good choirs....hmmm, maybe i should have said "competitions are not the only benchmark of a good choir"...ewan...malabo nga rin yung statement na yun in my opinion.

The thread's original title "Sino ang pinakamagaling...." is actually unanswerable. Since page one, competition winnings ang no. 1 basis. When I read someone hyping up one group kasi nanalo sa ganitong contest, I really cant help be really excited to watch the group live for myself. Kaya lang after hearing the group, and to my personal taste iba ang discernment ko....nakakapikon...napipikon ako sa competition kasi di nga siya ang only benchmark...

ok...again, dont take me out of context. usap na lang tayo minsan para ma explain ko ng maayos.

markus_creed
Nov 8, 2001, 01:31 PM
Tanong? Paano mo masasabi na tumitira nang tumitira ang isang nananahimik? Baka kayo yon, kung sino man kayo. It doesn’t mean that because you can speak your mind and have the freedom of expression, you can simply just say anything that you want to.

Remember, freedom has its own limitations. Besides, ”too much of everything is poisonous”! There’s freedom of the press, yeah, but responsible journalism isn’t just writing or saying anything you wanna say. Kungbaga, onting etiketa naman mga lola kong feeling.

Of course, any group can accept criticisms as long as it’s constructive at hindi kagaya ng ginagawa ninyo dito sa PEX na paninira and obviously, you pull each other down. Ke magpaka-profound kayo “kuno” or peacemaker(na biased) kayo “kuno” by the way you post your opinions and ideas in this thread about the PERFECT artistic discipline of choral music well, I don’t think it’s fair once you hit other groups below the belt. And I don’t think I have to explain why I reacted that way in my first post. Kaya nga sa media dito sa atin ay marami ang nasasampahan ng damages dahil hindi nila alam ang ibig sabihin ng responsible journalism.

Can’t we not like write a personal letter to the conductor or the choir of the criticisms, comments, praises and suggestions about the group’s particular song or performance if you’re having nightmares about what you’ve heard? I think it’s gonna be more appreciated. I know Prof. Navarro does that. His is very objective, tactful and balanced plus the fact na may K sya to start with hindi tulad ng iba dyan.

Monteverdi, siguro dapat sayo, Lily Monteverde dahil ikaw ang producer ng mess dito sa PEX. Kung gusto mo akong magpakilala, ikaw muna, sino ka ba?

choirmaster
Nov 8, 2001, 07:12 PM
Mga lowla,

May balita ba kayo tungkol kay Roberta Flack at ang PWU Chorale? Ang balita ko nasa Germany na daw sila pero wala akong balita tungkol sa Tolosa. Any news?

Monteverdi, Choirboy, Boccelli,

See you on Nov. 18! Pwede niyong i-disseminate kung gusto niyo. Hwag lang kayong masyadong maghakot at maliit lang ang simbahan.

We just finished a recording of Misa ni Ryan C. Also included are A questa me guiaba, Aba po, Santa Mariang Reyna and Anima Christi. We also did recordings of Ryan's more popular songs, including Tuwing umuulan at kapiling ka, Nais ko, Paraiso, Limang dipang tao, Kahit ika'y panaginip lamang, Iniibig kita, Paraisong Parisukat at marami pa, rearranged for choir and orchestra. A month ago we recorded Misa 2000 and Te Deum, both with choir and orchestra. Hindi ko alam kung kailan ang release; I guess sa inaugural na namin on January 19, CCP Main Theater. I just heard na invitational ang inaugural. Sorry mga lowla... tingnan natin, baka makalusot pa.

Yun lang...

P.S. Parang nag-skip ang thread dito sa computer ko ng isang message... baka may virus?;)

chOirbOy`
Nov 8, 2001, 08:50 PM
by invites lang? where do we get those invites?
i'd definitely kill for one.... guess nyo kung sino ang 'kill' ko! hehehe!

Calling Carmi Martin!!

Boccelli
Nov 8, 2001, 10:31 PM
Hi Choirmother...

Very naman ang concert.. sayang naman at invitational... sana makapuslit ako sa loob ng CCP.. hehehehehe
Susubukan kong hanapin ang Carmelites venue niyo... pag mawala ako luz valdez ang drama.. sorry na lang ako jan...

Danke sa updates tungkol sa fabulous career ng San Miguel. :)

Ingat at more power..

johnvianney... thanks again for the CD.. di ko pa nakukuha pero nakausap ko na yung friend ko at nasa kanya na.

Monteverdi
Nov 9, 2001, 01:10 AM
Originally posted by choirmaster

P.S. Parang nag-skip ang thread dito sa computer ko ng isang message... baka may virus?;)

Oo nga...bagong strain siguro :)

Mother, pag nanonood ako ng concert ninyo at may comments ako, good or bad/kung gusto ko man o hindi ang ginawa ninyo... sinusulatan pa ba kita? Diba hindi naman? Ako pa nga itong nagkakandarapang pumunta sa yo after the concert para sabihin ang lahat ng reactions ko...alam ko namang secure ka at confident sa artistry mo, and you're very approachable. Remember the Vespers concert?

We react as well as we learn. As an audience, we are growing in our ability to discern what we like and what we do not. I dont insult or go personal. My most biting post was about certain interpretations that are severly hacking a composer's work, which is plain DISRESPECT. I never mentioned disliking a particular choir, have I? I just state what I like and what I dont understand.... If other people here misunderstood it...sorry. I didnt mean to hurt their feelings :) I guess di pa sila ready for showbiz...chinky!

( Can someone please email Mr. John Rutter? Merong branch ng Oxford University Press dito eh... :) )

You remember the Tallis Scholars thing? Well, Peter Philips emailed me and said the fee for a single concert is around 8,000 pounds sterling. San naman kaya ako makakahanap ng ganung kayamang sponsor? They want nga sa Bamboo Organ Festival 2003. Si Mr. Salarza...he's very interested to help out. It seems he's also a fan of the choir. You have any suggestions?

See you on the 18th. :)

markus_creed
Nov 9, 2001, 06:33 AM
"Feeling Virus" na self destructive!!!!!

chOirbOy`
Nov 9, 2001, 08:40 AM
MONTEVERDIi:

before, di ko talaga ma-arok yang Tallis Scholars mo. but now, thanks to you, sobrang heaven everytime i listen to one of their discs from my "sang-tambak na cd kolekshen"...

another recording am currently engaged with is the Schutz op.1 italian madrigals (again!) that you gave me. each time i listen to it is just like the first: wistful, lusty, sensual at times;



FOR THE RECORD COLLECTOR:

a dozen or so pages ago, choir mama posted his views and preferences on recordings and live concerts. if your a new comer here, pakihanap mo na lang.

Unfortunately, live choral concerts here in the country are so limited and if ever there is one, the repertoire is the usual melange of styles and music from different periods and countries of origin which is supposed to showcase the choir's abilities (or INabilities most of the time). But thanks to the annual Bamboo Organ Festival, the occasional inclusion of choral works in the PPO concert series, and the different church music festivals in and out of the metro, those with a taste for big choral works with or without an orchestra (like me!) are in for some feasting.

yep, i do favor the live concert but most of the time, performances here of big choral works are either ill prepared, mis-informed, or a total disaster! (quoting a friend who went to the Bach-mass in B minor at the San agustin, early 2000)

i guess your asking now what this post is all about huh?

its about the use of the RECORDING.(oh see! nagagamit namin ang kolekshen, diba?!)

music primarily involves the sense of hearing. choral music involves SOUND. what's the use of reading those text books about music in college (if ur a music stude) if you cant relate that to any sound your hearing? and in a not so affluent country like us who really cant afford that many musical performances, what is left for us music lovers? (San Miguel is an exception, they spend millions on music now) or what if you want to hear a good interpretation of a work (unlike the one i mentioned above)?

i turn to recordings. they usually give you an insight on good performaces. If your a seasoned choralier in the country, sometimes they're a revelation. And oftentimes, you LEARN from them.

i should know. my appreciation for choral music stemmed from listening to DZFE back in my elementary days.

now with regards to the Mass in B minor performance i aforementioned - according to a "well-informed" friend of mine - the choral performance was exemplary the fact that it was really a difficult work, but they would could have done better IF they have had more rehearsals; overall textures was muddled due to the size of the choral and orchestral forces - the beauty of Bach's part writing was nowhere to be heard (maybe the conductor had Verdi in mind); orchestral playing is *ugh* ( have they heard of 'period playing' on modern instruments?) and sluggish, romanticised tempos. and that was the first time he heard it live. but because he have heard recordings of this work which may have been more 'period bound' (besides what he learned in music school), he had a point of comparison.

Lastly; please do always support our choral artists, for without them, there would be no live concerts (good or bad) to record for posterity's sake!

PS:
I was able to talk with Mr. Armando Salarza of the Bamboo Organ Foundation and I could sense his anticipation for choirmother's direction of the 'vesperae sollenes de confesore' by mozart in the next festival, knowing that choirmother is more 'aware' of stylistic concerns than one conductor they had before. And for 'period performance' buffs like me, that really is something to look forward to.

chOirbOy`
Nov 9, 2001, 08:45 AM
ei!

my next successive posts will include MY THOUGHTS on some large scale choral works I FEEL you shouldn't miss.

powerpuffghurl
Nov 9, 2001, 09:49 AM
kalowka ang the Irish raftery ng mga utash dito ha... :rotflmao:

anyway, rina, chirs, andrei, pat, papo:

musta na kayo?... i read the threads once more hoping to hear from you guys, but i guess mej tahimik kayo these days...

hmm... well, if any of you guys were ableto get this, pengeng info naman pano maka-getch ng new madz chidie (yung "life" chuvalesk)... paki-mail order na lang, at reimburse beauty na lang ako ala-Singapore DH, khekkheee!

Kaka-aliw lang.... ;)

Boccelli
Nov 9, 2001, 09:27 PM
To the Peoplettes..

RECITAL at the De La Salle University

TONIGHT! at 6PM (LS Main Chapel)

The performers are members of the De La Salle University Chorale with Montet and an all Female Choir from Korea.

rednails_210
Nov 9, 2001, 10:29 PM
i agree that all filipino chorale groups are good. wag nyo naman sanang apihin ang DLSU chorale. sobra sobrang time ang nasespend for rehearsals and they are really good.

johnvianney
Nov 10, 2001, 12:43 AM
Bocelli : hello...I just remembered, hindi ko pala na-lagyan ng mga selections list yung CD..due to time constraints ekk..Pls give me your email id..so I can email the list to you...Happy Listening
..JohnVianney..

Ardi : Hello Roberta Flak...Na-meet ko si Marcel ekk dito sa Bay Area..Bongga siya..at ni-re-recruit ko nga sa aming tsurts..

Monteverdi
Nov 10, 2001, 01:13 AM
choirboy...

i know...

when one hears that gardiner mass in bminor...sleepless, sleepless, sleepless...

chOirbOy`
Nov 10, 2001, 03:45 AM
hi guys!

im sure that for most of you out there, one of your very first taste of choral music would be of Handel's "hallelujah" chorus, which comes from an ORATORIO, the messiah.

Handel wrote this work in 1741 for a record 21 days owing much to the fact that most of the material is "parody" or borrowed music from his other earlier works.

Believe me or not, Handel's oratorios, though often with sacred text, is considered as mere "entertainment" in their time. remember "jesus christ superstar"? as expected, the most famous sacred oratorio of all time is this one - and christ is the superstar!

this work is in three parts; the first concerning the prophecy and fulfillment of the coming of the messiah; the second on Christ's passion; and the third is on the role of the messiah in life after death. This is also one of the two handel oratorios where most of the action is carried over by the choruses, and the only one where there are no named characters.

at first hearing, you may find the recitatives, ariosos and arias well.. boring - but dont discourage yourself from enjoying this work. The story of christ is as familiar to us as singing itself, so this wouldn't be much of a drag. You would even be amused at times with Handel's picturesque depiction into music of scenes of the life of christ. for example, the brightness of the strings in depicting the halos of the angels who greeted the shepherds (accompanagto: and suddenly there was with the angels - first part)

another thing is: it's in english! so you really wouldn't find it hard to relate to what your listening to.

The messiah would be a great start to discovering the wealth of large scale choral-vocal works in the repertory. if you wish to know more about this work, contact me or MONTEVERDI.

if you would be fortunate enough to get a recording conducted by John Eliot Gardiner, then good. but I suggest that you buy the Trevor Pinnock set (picture on inset), available in TOWER MAKATI, which is also played on period instruments but has a weightier, grandiose feel to it, so that you would not be readily alienated by the tone colors and textures of "period instruments" ( those instruments are authentic copies or originals from the time that Handel lived. the most obvious difference from modern instruments is that the strngs are lighter in tone.)

both these recordings are played and sung by forces which, according to musicological research, are the sizes used by Handel in most of his early performances of this work.

HAPPY LISTENING!

chOirbOy`
Nov 10, 2001, 03:58 AM
PS:

a friend told me that DLSU chorale is planning to perform the whole first part of the messiah in december. Tuloy ba 'to?

choirmama: may messiah ba ulit sa December ang PCC?

Z*E*U*S
Nov 10, 2001, 07:53 PM
MONTIVERDI or CHOIRBOY or anyone concerned.

Do you really know the meaning of a constructive criticism?

is this an example of such!?

Originally posted by Monteverdi
im not saying this with a particular group in mind...I heard a recording of certain "famous" filipino choir...much praised here in the pages of PEx...but i cant believe their competion performance in Europe just a few years back...they won several accolades in this particular competition...anyhow, if you had the chance to hear that disc, you'd be laughing out loud. German diction between sections were butchered...i.e. yung german ng soprano vastly different sa german ng basses...yup may puso ang kanta. pero ma heart attack naman yung listener kasi lahat ng piyesa ginawang sobrang bilis, especially yung ethnic set, para maging exciting...and that federizon tinig ng lupa...for crying out loud, the soprano at the end...what the hell was she doing? I swear walang ganun sa piyesa??? I felt they had to take her to the hospital after the performance...it was unbelievable!

I'm a fan of this choir and I listen well to all their concerts. I dont agree with all their interpretations as much as I applaud all the wonderful things they bring to their music making. But that CD was plain Friday the 13th!

I feel very much like a witch! Forgive me for my now! Ngayon lang araw na ito talaga! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

grabe, ganito na pala ang conception nyo ng isang constructive criticism!

Did you actually mean to laugh? Do you have to do it, if youre sincere?

I can not blame you for it...i dont know kung meron kayong inner galit/anger/envy with this group...i dont know kung plain paninira lang ito...but the only thing i know is that, this quote is not at a good taste so dont be surprised na ang daming nag-reply ng violente sa inyo.

Dumating pa yung point na nakilala kayo ng mga tao dito sa PEX at nalaman nila na wala naman pala kayong "k" (compared to the more reliable famous conductors) na magsalita ng ganun.

as for me, I know you.

about:

saying a comment directly to a conductor, is the most impossible thing you could do.

baka effective sa inyo yun kay Choirmaster dahil 'close' kayo (it shows naman eh), pero hindi nyo yan magagawa sa iba i bet.

Just think of the reality, dont rely on what is ideal but the real.

You must be misguided.

You must have a frustration.(I dont know what it is! har har har!)

I must be assuming.

But, you started it all.

choirmaster
Nov 10, 2001, 08:58 PM
To Monteverdi:

Alam mo, ang suggestion ko, mag-apply ka na sa Inquirer, Star at Bulletin for the post of choral concert critic. Doon ka lang titigilan ng mga tao dito tungkol sa iyong "k" or lack of it.

Zeus, I beg to disagree, and not because Monteverdi and choirboy are my friends. Come to think of it, lahat ng choirs dito ay friends ko. It's just that, sa palagay ko, you don't have to be a good singer or an excellent conductor para magkaroon ka ng "k" na sumulat dito, constructive man o destructive. Kung alam mo ang sinusulat mo, that's enough k.

If you are an amateur choir in New York, tapos pinanood ka ng critic ng new york times, i can tell you truly, mild pa yang sinasabi ni monteverdi. and the language would probably be much worse, kebs na ang constructive ekk. kung pangit talaga ang ginawa mo, they'll say it out straight. But then the critic of the new york times would in all probability be an out of tune singer, not a member of a choir, and not a conductor at all, o kundi chugi talaga siya sa ibang conductors! But that doesn't give him or her less "k"!

Lahat ng vitriol na nabasa ko after monteverdi's comments, lalong lalo na yung sinulat ni markus creed, were directed at monteverdi's k. Alam mo, sometimes kung nagpo-post siya, may natututunan pa ako, about periods and styles and different kinds of choirs. In some areas of this art, mas may alam pa siya kaysa sa akin.

Dito sa atin, nakakabit talaga ang k mo sa summa total ng buhay mo. Kung hindi ka member ng choir o hindi ka magaling na conductor, wa ka dapat spyuk ng ganoon tungkol sa mga naririnig mo, kasi wala kang k. Magiging malungkot ako kung ganon nga ang mangyayari.

Pero ito ang masasabi ko: bakit wala pang nagre-react tungkol sa sinabi ni monteverdi na criticisms? Out of period nga ba yung ibang songs? Chaka nga ba talaga ang German? Mabilis nga ba ang ibang tempo ng ethnic ekk? Inukray ba talaga ang Tinig ng Lupa? O natamaan ba kayo at ang naisip niyo lang na knee-jerk reaction ay ang k niya?

I myself would probably find out the same criticisms. Ang kaibahan lang ay hindi ko ipo-post dito sa PEx, at wala akong pagsasabihan hanggat hindi ako tinatanong ng kapwa ko conductor.

I would like to suggest to monteverdi also, to tone down sa mga ganung klaseng pagka-word ng kanyang mga opinion. Para naman hindi mapikon ang mga naghihirap mag-ensayo na choirmembers dito. Choirmembers naman, cool lang tayo. Itaas natin ang standards natin, para umakyat din ang quality ng nanonood sa atin. At tanggalin ang mga onion-skins!

Let's face it: tumatalas na (ulit!) ang tenga ng mga nakikinig sa atin. Hwag lang i-base sa tunog; marami na ngayon ang nakikinig sa interpretation. I said ulit, kasi mas mataas ang kanilang katarayan nung 70's.

Yun lang... my two cents' worth.

And with that, tatahimik na ulit ang lowla ninyo. Ayaw ko nang ma-involve (as if!) sa mga away ng mga apo ko. Pagmamasdan ko na lang kayo from my rocking chair. Baboo!

JohnnyBBad
Nov 11, 2001, 12:43 AM
Wow! All of a sudden this thread is alive and kicking!

Hello folks! I haven't read (and posted in) this thread in a while, and I was surprised to suddenly see the deluge of posts due to Monteverdi's posting. My thoughts on it? Interpretations will always vary from conductor to conductor. It's often the reflection of the conductor's knowledge about style and performance practice, intuition as an artist, and as well as his or her own personality. But whatever the outcome is, it should still be within bounds of good taste, and more importantly, faithful to what the composer had in mind, as what is written in the score in terms of tempo marking, dynamics, articulations, directions, etc. True, good taste may be a very subjective term, as it varies from one listener to another, but what is written out in the score is not. It is an absolute given, and should be followed faithfully if the composers' wishes are to be respected. However, the manner of execution is another topic all together. Is the forte to be done in the Poulenc the same as the forte in the Brahms or Mendelssohn? Are the accent markings to be taken literally, or are they simply instruments for agogics? Perhaps, this is where that all important aspect of artistry (another subjective term, mind you) comes in. An excellent conductor will always be able to do all of these markings, and yet be able to make it sound natural-sounding and not over-literal and mannered.

As for competitions, I've always put into head what Jojo said to us (the ACGC), that if one losses, it doesn't mean that the choir is lousy. It plainly means that the judges just found what the choir presented onstage quite wanting, whether of sound, interpretation, or whatever :)

As a final note, all choirs will always have off-nights and other stuff nightmares are made-off, but perhaps it's another thing they always in the off-night mode:p

p.s. Congats ulit for Sir Ed an the UPSA for winning in all those competitions. We are proud as Filipino choristers to have another choir bring honors for our country. Good luck with your bid next year in Arezzo for the EGP. As much as we and the UST Singers wanted to, may you bring home the bacon this time around :)

GadoGado
Nov 11, 2001, 02:54 AM
Originally posted by Monteverdi
Someone just commented a few postings back that choirs in the country are changing their sound...

Indeed! Well, not just here but in other places as well. Some famous choirs, like in their newer recordings, have gone a long way from their recordings just 20 years ago! (RIAS Kammerchor for example...comparing their Bach recordings...)

If you have heard that black Madz cd (A life shaped by music), you would also notice that their sound has evolved from the very rich, vibrato laden sound circa 1970s to the refined, "straighter," purer toned ensemble that won the EGP in 97. Albeit, the lines and unique phrasing/charisma hasn't really changed at all! (I like the Madz in Tolosa 1996, that was really special!)

UST 1995 sounds quite differerent from the UST of 2001, notwithstanding the change in members. It all reflects the new learnings, techniques, experiences of our conductors. Especially with UST. The performance of Chua-ay for the 1995 Tolosa competition was WAY KNOCK OUT as compared to when they recorded it back in 1993. So proud to hear all the applause...the audience must have been spell binded to hear that performance!

ACGC...ah! Now here's a choir that has really worked hard! All their efforts have really produced a special sound. I just wish that more of their competition cds be heard (Marktoberdorf, Tolosa, etc). I have to close my mouth whenever I listen to their competitions performances....

I guess, reading my postings from almost a year ago, I guess I know must say a true fan cannot pick a favorite choir, local or foreign. You can never know what a particular group will teach/show you...

To a budding choral fan, my unsolicited advice: Dont close your mind...just listen and listen and listen. No one will stop you from criticizing a certain choir, sound, interpretation, conductor or performance. Have favorites, but never ever let that prevent you from listening to new choirs or new repertoire! Be sure that you enjoy the music!

Hahaha...eto na naman ako nagruruminate...bored eh...and almost unemployed (again!).

Im gonna start naming my "must listen and get a copy list" of choral cd recordings...wala lang, this will be ongoing. para maiba rin atmosphere ng thread na ito...share din kayo...

1. MADZ 1989 CD...

This is a prized cd...rare among non madz members. Has the GLORIA of Cayabyab, TINIG NG LUPA by Federizon, PRAYER OF ST FRANCIS Not by Allan Pote, ELI! ELI! of Bardos, ITALIAN SALAD, and other Gems. The quissential Filipino choir at its best! The sheer virtuosity, force, heart...everything that is NOT FROM THE EUROPEAN SCHOOL of choral performance (well not entirely :) ). Basta! Im running out of superlatives...so just take my word for it. If you dont have it, borrow at all cost!

2. MADZ Christmas CD (circa 1987-89?)

Not the yellow cd released by BMG, this one is for me a lot better kasi very loose and "rustic" ang pagkanta. As in again, quissentially Filipino sound...lalo na yung PASKO NA NAMAN at NOCHE BUENA. Maraming carolers ang naimpluwensya ng guitarista sa cd na to... The ROMMEL PET is amazing, not perfect, but who cares? ITS AN AMAZING CD. Not commercially available na, but at all cost, try to listen to it.

3. RIAS Kammerchor Poulenc motets

THE EUROPEAN PROFESSIONAL CHOIR. Difficult repertoire but sung with much panache yet very tight and secured intonation and attacks. Choirmasters everywhere will indeed envy the dead on attacks of this choir's sopranos...those B flats! (I read that somewhere, sorry, pero totoo talaga). CDs are still available in tower...get this kahit di nyo pa dig yung songs...it's a great thing!

The Netherlands Chamber Choir under Eric Ericson is also fine. But its another story...I'l continue na lang in my next post...

Grabe, Cris...if you read all this im sure sabihin mo ang daldal ko talaga! Hehehehe :D

Goodluck to all!

you have yet to hear the new sound of the ateneo COLLEGE glee club, totally different with more than 70 % of its singers new, and with its new conductor, kakaiba talaga from the glee club sound just a few months ago. di nga ako makapaniwala sa bilis ng panahon.

chOirbOy`
Nov 11, 2001, 03:17 AM
hi al!!

what choirmama said is true, talagang mild pa lang yung mga comments ni monteverdi compared to OTHER good critics.

let's face it: the filipino choral audience has come a long way, thanks first and foremost to THE CHOIRS who continually raise the standards of this art form in our country. And who knows, baka kami lang ang malakas ang loob na magcomment about what we hear, but then what about the others na mas MAY ALAM sa amin? baka hindi lang nila alam ang thread na ito and that PEx exists! we DEMAND more for we know that the choirs can deliver.

monteverdi: maybe its about time that we tone down na sa criticisms natin. remember your infamous line about a choir who sang a Bach work - "sorry, pero hindi talaga sila pang Bach!"
hindi ko din matangap yun. really good critics would put it this way-"they could have done better with the bach!">constructive diba? and dapat nga lang na iwasan mo na yung mga tag-line mo (eg. hahahaha!) you will gain more friends if you put it that way, why? sa palagay mo ba eh maniniwala sa mga comments mo ang isang taong galit sa yo?

MOST conductors of parish choirs here in the land of jeepneys admire me not because they think im good(?), but because im a good friend. and when they ask for my comment about his/her work, they take it as a "friendly advice", not as a criticism.(o diba?!)

as with choirmama's suggestion about you taking up post as a regular choral music critic; pursue it! And why dont you try line-producing an hour-weekly show about choral music in FM? (i can imagine it now: " hoooy! alam nyo ba kung sinech ang choir na itech na chuk chak chenes ang bera sa nyech na pyesa?! hehe, just kiddin!)I believe, not as a friend but an admirer, that you are armed with the knowledge to do so. But it is not enough that you speak out: MAKE SURE YOU ARE HEARD.

yun lang! and sorry if i wuznt able to be with you this saturday AM. para sa mga interested, ang next post ko will be about Frank Martin's MASS FOR DOUBLE CHOIR.

lactoserum
Nov 11, 2001, 04:43 AM
pwede tigilan nato.

i used to love this thread kahit wala akong alam sa choral music. i love our school choir (UST Singers) because i know they are good, same with the Phil.Madrigal Singers and Ateneo Glee Club.

as i breeze through the latter pages of this thread, it seems that my school's choir is being put into scrutiny that they do not deserve. why did i say, they dont deserve it, it is because it seems that those who scrutinize them are bias and mean to them, and i dont know the reason why. We, Thomasians know how they work and how much effort they pour just to give our university and our country the respect it deserve. That is why we love them so much. To tell you, i know some of their members and i should say, they're one of the humblest i know.

was your criticism about them is really meant to criticize or for others to have a false perception about thier winnings? buti nalang, di nila pinapatulan to.

wala lang, gusto ko lang ilabas ang mga iniisip ko kasi feeling ko, napagkakaisahan sila dito eh. di naman namin sila papabayaan kasi mahal namin sila.

i may not have the k to talk here pero yun lang yung gusto kong sabihin.

kung pwede lang pong itigil natong pag-co-comment ng wala sa lugar.

chOirbOy`
Nov 11, 2001, 07:07 AM
lactoserum: thanks for posting here.

to everybody: di kailangan na may 'k' ka para mag-post dito.


SPEAK OUT YOUR MIND!~

zion
Nov 11, 2001, 09:26 AM
To Lactoserum:

Hi kafatid!

FYI, dito sa thread na to, there is no such thing as "pag-co-comment ng wala sa lugar." Everything's relative. And everyone has a point. Masakit magsalita minsan, pero most naman here mean well, I think. Sabi nga ng banner logo: SPEAK YOUR MIND.

I believe that DIVERSITY has a place here in PEx.

Yun lang po. Shalom! :)

shyna
Nov 12, 2001, 12:46 AM
i would like to invite you all to "The 2001 Lasallian Choral Festival" on Friday, Nov. 16 from 6-8:30pm at the LS Main Chapel of DLSU Taft. There will be 6 La Salle choirs who will be participating. Namely,
Coro San Benildo (La Salle Benilde)
Coro Lasalyano (La Salle Greenhills)
DLSS-Zobel Grade School Chorale (La Salle Zobel)
DLSU-Dasmariñas Chorale (La Salle Dasmariñas)
DLS-Lipa Voices (La Salle Lipa)
DLSU Chorale (La Salle Taft)


I hope you people could watch. :D

Boccelli
Nov 12, 2001, 04:45 PM
shyna... di ko ata alam na may choral fest pala sa la salle... kaka sing ko lang nung Friday tapos choral fest agad the next week. :)

hi all...

CHOIRBOY... di ko sure if they(DLSU Chorale) are going to perform messiah... pero they have have done it for a number of years na... tipong less than 20 lang pero sing-a-loo pa rin ng Messiah pieces... OA diba.. :) faboe ang mga zingers...
baka its this Nov 16 concert where they will be singing a few Messiah pieces... The Messiah concert we've done before hmmmm.. parang first part lang ata siya nung buong Oratorio(oratorio nga ba siya? just an innocent question)... basta mula Comfort Ye hanggang Glory to God ata yun or His Yoke... i forgot na grabeeeee... hehehehehehe

to ALL...
masaya naman yung first ever Recital ng mga Chorale members... yun na nga... suming ako.. filingesh magpakapavarotti at dinama ko ang Nessun Dorma... (alam kong di ko na extend yung note nung la diro na part pero kineri ko na lang.. heheheheh) pero ok naman daw sabi nung mga nanood. The other performers(who are from the choir's present batch) really hit their pieces at wala talaga akong masabi.. siguro pag may MP3 yung mga performances.. post ko sa briefcase ko... at husgahan niyo na lang... ang saya pala mag recital.. nakaka-kabog pero masaya.. kahit di kami voice majors kineri namin ang pag sing:) ang galing din nung All Female ng Korean choir.. forgot their name.. ang cute talaga ng Korean na national costume(for women) i forgot what its called though... tapos sining ng chorale ang kanilang latest piece d'resistance... ang "When You Believe" from Prince of Egypt. Sobrang ganda!!!! :)

yun lang po muna!

lactoserum
Nov 12, 2001, 05:39 PM
hello Choirboy and Zion,

im aware of that. i know the banner of this site. but don't you think those criticisms were in good taste? do you think we should all say 'whats on our mind' even if it will be a cost of someone's reputation or it will be a start of a gap/fight!?

i believe that pexers on this thread were educated enough to post comments and reviews, well-written and constructive. but i think, this is becoming a bashing thread also just like other threads in here. and the heck, the first victim is our school's choir. (sad for us)

can we let this thread be distinct from other bashing threads?
i know that people who post here are responsible and credible enough. isn't it? wasn't it? aren't they? weren't they?


off:

i only notice a thing, they don't post here, i wonder why. maybe they're just holding their temper. i know naman na they are educated and professional enough so as not to make 'patol' to some in here.

but if they happen to read this, we're still here to support you guys! we believe in your music!

gud day!

Boccelli
Nov 12, 2001, 08:44 PM
lactoserum:

hi.. i have read two of your posts from the past week... they are quite valid to me...

i have a few things to say though, i'm sure you are a huge fan of the UST Singers. I am too. I know people from the group since I got the chance to meet some of them when they were in Chicago last year. I am sure though that the comments made by a few people here were a bit harsh.. perhaps they forgot to bleep a few words.. :) pero siguro, the best thing to do would be to just get the main message of the comment/criticism(constructive or destructive) and see what to do from there, either to do something about it or just continue with what the group has been doing.

i also believe in speaking one's mind as long as... it is with in the bounds of ethical standards (i.e. lambasting is a total no no.. :))

hmmm... yun lang muna siguro.. later na lang uli .. :)

Monteverdi
Nov 13, 2001, 02:44 AM
Originally posted by Z*E*U*S
MONTIVERDI or CHOIRBOY or anyone concerned.

Do you really know the meaning of a constructive criticism?

is this an example of such!?



grabe, ganito na pala ang conception nyo ng isang constructive criticism!

Did you actually mean to laugh? Do you have to do it, if youre sincere?

I can not blame you for it...i dont know kung meron kayong inner galit/anger/envy with this group...i dont know kung plain paninira lang ito...but the only thing i know is that, this quote is not at a good taste so dont be surprised na ang daming nag-reply ng violente sa inyo.

Dumating pa yung point na nakilala kayo ng mga tao dito sa PEX at nalaman nila na wala naman pala kayong "k" (compared to the more reliable famous conductors) na magsalita ng ganun.

as for me, I know you.

about:

saying a comment directly to a conductor, is the most impossible thing you could do.

baka effective sa inyo yun kay Choirmaster dahil 'close' kayo (it shows naman eh), pero hindi nyo yan magagawa sa iba i bet.

Just think of the reality, dont rely on what is ideal but the real.

You must be misguided.

You must have a frustration.(I dont know what it is! har har har!)

I must be assuming.

But, you started it all.


Hello! :)

I guess that posting DID start it all...

I was reviewing it with a friend from ACGC and I realized medyo very bad ang pagka-state ng comment ko...that was just a very 'bad writing day' for me...so Im saying sorry to the members of this choir...

but to the members of this choir only!

as to the others who gave very skewed and off tangent statements...

1. I dont have grudges against this choir! Eh lagi nga akong nanonood ng concert nila. Pumunta pa ako sa kabilang dulo ng metro manila para lang mabili ang bago nilang cd.

2. Sinisiraan? Im commenting on a particular performance. Not on the group. Besides, what I wrote has basis. Have you heard that cd? No? Then ikaw ang walang K. And, did I name the choir? can you actually tell me sino ang choir na tinutukoy ko? No? Exactly!

3. Commenting to the choir conductor impossible? Of course not! Ginagawa ko yun sa lahat ng conductors na kilala ko. Sila pa nga ang natatawa sa sarili nilang performance at nag popoint out ng 'mistakes' nila...

4. Rely on the real not the ideal? What do you mean? Arent we supposed to be striving for our artistic ideals? Otherwise, we would be rewarded with mediocrity!

5. No, im not misguided. Neither have I any frustrations.

6. Yes, you must be assuming. :) a lot! considering you know me...then maybe you dont know me enough...

Well, what's 'K'? If in the first place wala akong K, bakit di nalang ignore ang sinulat ko??

But no, kasi what I wrote was true...what I said (thought Im now very apologetic bec of the way I said it) has basis...those who were hit knew it well...

Respond to criticism by explaining the other end of the argument. Simple philosophy lang...maraming fallacies ang nangyari kasi puro Ad Hominem ang arguments...

Ok I agree with you na not in good taste yung particular post ko. So dont worry, next time...talagang comments on the music and interpretation na lang.

I didnt mean to "bash" that choir...when I wrote that, di ko na nasabi ng maayos...so im sorry...

Jerusalem
Nov 13, 2001, 03:41 AM
I thought the title of this thread was "Sino ang pinakamagaling na university chorale group ng Pilipinas?" and not "Sino ang pinakanilalait na university choir ng Pilipinas?".

Just a thought.

P.S.
I heard from a reliable source that UPSA will be having a 2nd homecoming concert in UP Diliman. I hope more people could watch the next show since only a fraction of the choral community were able to catch their 1st at CCP. I also hope that UPSA would lower their ticket prices so more people could enjoy their own brand of singing (and dancing).

Z*E*U*S
Nov 13, 2001, 05:44 AM
lam mo montiverdi, hindi ako t**** at hindi ako bulag para hindi malaman kung sino ang choir na tinutukoy mo. wag mo kaming gawing t**** dito - it is very obvious that you're pertaining to the UST Singers.

you have done the damage to them, i dont know if they'll accept your "apology". but they're nice enough to forgive you, i know them - they're not as mean as you're. poor them, had they react to this, it would be fair to them.

yeah, i heard their cd - and i happened to watch them lang naman sa TOURS. kasi lumaban rin kami dun at nagkataon na andun ako that time.

and for your and others information, the cd that you have heard is not as bad as it sound, lalo na kung andun ka nung mga panahong iyon. maybe di mo lang na-appreciate yung acoustic kasi di ka pa nakakalaban dun. :(

so, talaga palang inamin mo na nakakalapit ka sa mga "conductors" na close mo - yeah, close pala kayo ni Tita OA? ni Joel? ni Fidel? Ed? Boy? ah oo, si Jojo.

a particular - bad taste comment could destroy someone's 'reputation'. look at you, you have ruined yours, bad for you.

as for me, eto, balik ako sa Pinas para isang plano sa dati kong grupo since may reformation.

la nga pala akong "K" mag salita sa mga di ako kilala. very relative ang drama ko diva?

chOirbOy`
Nov 13, 2001, 05:54 AM
MONTEVERDI - STOP NA!~~

chOirbOy`
Nov 13, 2001, 06:06 AM
boccelli:

in my own PERSONAL OPINION, bagay sa clean sound ng DLSU ang early music. yan nga ang lagi naming pinaguusapan ni AJ eh. Try mo borrow kay AJ yung recording nya ng messiah na si Ton Koopman ang conductor at ang choir ay THE SIXTEEN (an early music group from london) actually, they're singing yata dun with 20 singers (augmented ang soprano section) and a period orchestra of about 30 players.

in that recording, sobrang straight tone ang choir ( as most british choirs are ).

yun lang!

Zack
Nov 13, 2001, 06:25 PM
A TRIBUTE TO MAESTRO LUCIO SAN PEDRO
(Tanghalang Nicanor Abelardo)

The Philippine Ballet Theater, together with the Bayanihan Dance Company and the Philippine Madrigal Singers, will present works of National Artist in Music Lucio San Pedro to pay tribute to the works of the Maestro.

November 15-16 8:00 pm
November 17 3:00 pm, 8:00 pm
November 18 3:00 pm

fujitsu
Nov 13, 2001, 07:11 PM
hey lola zeus-mita sen, reply ka na pala ever. kagulat!

lumaban din pala ang beauty mo sa tours-o-han ha! di kesh alam na kasalidumay pala ang reyna nung mga panahong yaon.

musta nga pala ang alitalia and berlinda fule? ano naman ang plenesh mo sa gruppo-vocali mesh?

miss teysi tomas na kitash! tagal na din nating di nagdaufang palm pilot.

etos me labora every moment of my life-shaped by music ang drama. para naman may kadatungan.

maiba ako, close-open pala ang iba ditrels, nicht ko alam. danke nalang sa mga na-disseminate na information para tahimik nalang akesh.

wawa naman ang iba nating mga kafatid sa industriya, naka labas pala dito ang mga alagad ni lola Daniela Barenboim ditrels.

gooday!

Monteverdi
Nov 14, 2001, 02:19 AM
Originally posted by Z*E*U*S
lam mo montiverdi, hindi ako t**** at hindi ako bulag para hindi malaman kung sino ang choir na tinutukoy mo. wag mo kaming gawing t**** dito - it is very obvious that you're pertaining to the UST Singers.

you have done the damage to them, i dont know if they'll accept your "apology". but they're nice enough to forgive you, i know them - they're not as mean as you're. poor them, had they react to this, it would be fair to them.

yeah, i heard their cd - and i happened to watch them lang naman sa TOURS. kasi lumaban rin kami dun at nagkataon na andun ako that time.

and for your and others information, the cd that you have heard is not as bad as it sound, lalo na kung andun ka nung mga panahong iyon. maybe di mo lang na-appreciate yung acoustic kasi di ka pa nakakalaban dun. :(

so, talaga palang inamin mo na nakakalapit ka sa mga "conductors" na close mo - yeah, close pala kayo ni Tita OA? ni Joel? ni Fidel? Ed? Boy? ah oo, si Jojo.

a particular - bad taste comment could destroy someone's 'reputation'. look at you, you have ruined yours, bad for you.

as for me, eto, balik ako sa Pinas para isang plano sa dati kong grupo since may reformation.

la nga pala akong "K" mag salita sa mga di ako kilala. very relative ang drama ko diva?

As I said, im sorry for that particular post. That's really how I felt when I listened to that cd on that particular day/night. Anyway, im trying to get in touch with the owner of the cd...hope that's enough...

as for you...well, im not against you personally...just surprised that most of the arguments here nga are on a personal level...wherein the discussion should be on the music itself...

as I said, I have nothing against the group...just the performance...

well, z*e*u*s...we have different sides to the same coin...but you've definitely taught me the finer points of criticizing...thank's :)

Monteverdi
Nov 14, 2001, 03:01 AM
Originally posted by GadoGado


you have yet to hear the new sound of the ateneo COLLEGE glee club, totally different with more than 70 % of its singers new, and with its new conductor, kakaiba talaga from the glee club sound just a few months ago. di nga ako makapaniwala sa bilis ng panahon.

Yup. I've been hearing a lot of things about the new Ateneo College Glee Club. You have a very intelligent conductor, keen in the academics of vocal technique and pedagogy (I hope that doesn't sound limited). I'll be looking forward to your debut.

Also looking forward to the debut of the Ateneo Chamber Singers! :)

Choirboy...

Ang galing nung Diwa ng Pasko...parang ang haba ng linya, di ko sila napansing huminga! Ang galing! Prized talaga ang album (Madz Christmas, green) na to. Galit na galit si AJ kasi nasunog sa room ko yung ganito niya...I wonder, anong batch ng MADZ to...

chOirbOy`
Nov 14, 2001, 06:39 AM
ihaharap ko sa iyo ang aking magic mirror... ano ang sasabihin mo sa taong nasa harap mo now??~

THE BUZZ!!

fujitsu
Nov 14, 2001, 10:45 PM
hoolala! mustasa na ang mga utaw?

anyone here who can post informations about the PWU choir? im really interested about any informations about them.

fujitsu
Nov 14, 2001, 10:49 PM
off the topic.

we're having comments about Boy Abunda and The Buzz chenelin, im having a clue na tuloy kung sino dito yung mga nakikita ko sa mga affairs chuvalin.

choirboy? montiverdi? just my imagination.

basta nuod nalang kayo sa mga harang ng mga mahal ko sa buhay nitong dadating na disyembre.

mga mahal ko...musta recital nung oktubre?

Boccelli
Nov 15, 2001, 12:49 AM
Originally posted by fujitsu
hoolala! mustasa na ang mga utaw?

anyone here who can post informations about the PWU choir? im really interested about any informations about them.

Hey fujitsu...
the PWU Chorale scheduled their arrival in Manila Nov 15, 2001 (tomorrow)
We might be able to check the newspapers for any news of a Homecoming Concert pretty soon.

To all...
Is anyone watching the La Salle Choral Festival on Friday?

chOirbOy`
Nov 15, 2001, 02:22 AM
boccelli:

gusto ko sana watch coz of some friends sa DLSU-dasmarinas chorale. ty ko punta.

Monteverdi
Nov 15, 2001, 03:17 AM
Does anyone here know if nakalaban ng UPSA ang King's College Choir (from England) sa Arezzo this year? syempre, natalo nila yon...

I dont know if I got it right...kung eto nga yung famous Choir of King's College of Cambridge...the Arezzo site kasi listed them from London...eh the choir is from the city of Cambridge...

UPSA would have competed against them in both Polyphony and Special Competition categories...

sumali nga ba tong choir na 'to?

chOirbOy`
Nov 15, 2001, 06:27 AM
MONTEVERDI:

bothered ka?

chOirbOy`
Nov 15, 2001, 06:32 AM
FUJITSU:

kung watch ka ng mga concert ng PCC late 1999 - 2000 (except vespers) malamang nagkita tayo. watch ko lahat ng concerts nila nung period na yun, sobrang busy ko nga lang at di ko napanood yung vespers (rach) and yung 2001 bamboo organ nila. last na madz concert na watch ko is yung pag relenquish ng crown at scepter... hehe!

ayyy! watch ko pala yung all asian ekk ng PCC before they left for s'pore.

yun lang ( email mo ko kung type mo - ex_choirboy@yahoo.com )

Boccelli
Nov 15, 2001, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by Monteverdi
Does anyone here know if nakalaban ng UPSA ang King's College Choir (from England) sa Arezzo this year? syempre, natalo nila yon...

I dont know if I got it right...kung eto nga yung famous Choir of King's College of Cambridge...the Arezzo site kasi listed them from London...eh the choir is from the city of Cambridge...

UPSA would have competed against them in both Polyphony and Special Competition categories...

sumali nga ba tong choir na 'to?

Hi Monteverdi.. yes.. sumali yung Choir of King's College. I would think na nagkamali lang yung Arezzo. Narinig ko yung mga recordings ng British Choir na ito .. ok naman sila.

Boccelli
Nov 15, 2001, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by BusyChild
hay naku. Tama na muna yang paputian na yan. May chalk naman lahat yan eh.

Anyways, pahiram naman ako ng mga choir cds nyo. I will just have them burned (copied). Wala na kasi akong mapakinggan. kakasawa na UST Singers. Gusto ko ma-try yung iba naman.

Anyone?

Thanks.

Hi BusyChild...
if you want to get MP3s of Philippine Choirs.. there are tons of them on http://www.audiogalaxy.com
Just read thru the webpage to learn more about the tool. It's kinda like Napster but better(kasi mas maraming choral works sa audiogalaxy)

chOirbOy`
Nov 15, 2001, 07:31 PM
BOCCELLI:

nagkamali ang AREZZO? are you trying to be funny dear?!

hahahahahahahaha! (watch your words dude baka ma 'the buzz' ka din!)

BUSYCHILD: email mo ko - druid20_79@yahoo.com.

Boccelli
Nov 15, 2001, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by chOirbOy`
BOCCELLI:

nagkamali ang AREZZO? are you trying to be funny dear?!

hahahahahahahaha! (watch your words dude baka ma 'the buzz' ka din!)

BUSYCHILD: email mo ko - druid20_79@yahoo.com.

What I meant about "nagkamali yung Arezzo" is.. nagkamali sila sa pag lagay ng London instead of Cambridge... getch?

And besides, kahit ako masasabi kong mas magaling yung UPSA kaysa Choir of King's College kaya deserving ang UPSA na manalao against them. Third lang yung Choir of King's College(correct me if I'm wrong Monteverdi)

zion
Nov 16, 2001, 02:47 AM
Originally posted by Boccelli


What I meant about "nagkamali yung Arezzo" is.. nagkamali sila sa pag lagay ng London instead of Cambridge... getch?

And besides, kahit ako masasabi kong mas magaling yung UPSA kaysa Choir of King's College kaya deserving ang UPSA na manalao against them. Third lang yung Choir of King's College(correct me if I'm wrong Monteverdi)
Amen to that, brother.:p

Monteverdi
Nov 16, 2001, 03:43 AM
A choirister friend from UK confirmed...so maybe...

The Choir of King's College na sumali sa Arezzo na nakalaban ng UPSA is not the famous all male choir from Cambridge (famed for its Christmas/Festival of Nine Lessons and Carols), but rather the mixed choir from King's College of the University of London, which toured Italy this year...

I was rather surprised kasi in the 500+ year history of King's College Cambridge Choir, I have never heard it join any international choral competition...besides its a professional/commercial institution itself. Busy sila sa pagkanta sa kanilang daily services in their nice chapel...they rarely have time to tour outside UK...

Boccelli, as for the sound...syempre you cant compare King's to UPSA. Both choirs will have their own strenghts and their own forte in terms of repertoire. Besides, iba ang tunog kasi King's uses boy sopranos and male altos (countertenors).

Pero against that London choir, well di ko pa sila narinig...and
besides mas magaling UPSA dahil 1st place sila diba! ;)

chOirbOy`
Nov 16, 2001, 08:09 AM
BOCCELLI:

ok.

chOirbOy`
Nov 16, 2001, 10:44 AM
EVERYBODY PLEASE TAKE TIME TO READ THIS:

to start with, i'm not posting this to bash or offend anybody, and am not gonna refer to any local choir in particular. but if you feel na tinatamaan ka na... THINK! AND THEN THINK AGAIN!

after spending about 4 1/2 hours reading this thread from the top page to the last ang una kong NAPANSIN ay yung pagpalit nang PExrs na nag-popost or maybe hindi na sila nagpopost at read na lang dito.

second; yep, it has evolved from simpleng "bangayan" to pages that are more informative (most of the time) and thanks to this thread, ang daming na develop na friendships and 'connections' (hehe) MAYBE thats why mas naging-open na ang ang mga discussions and that sometimes some PExrs use 'offensive' words in posting his/her thoughts.(feeling close diba?) so to some 'new' PEXrs, this may look like a case of bashing and pang 'put-down' sa admired group nila. when you begin to trust someone as 'friend material' u dont have to use nice words to express what you feel di ba?somemtes you your friends, "grabe bakit ganyan ang gupit mo?" or "hey! haggard ka na ah.." so and so...ang MALI lang, his/her thoughts were posted in public instead of posting it as a private message(puede yun dito sa PEx) SO PLEASE REFRAIN FROM BRINGING UP THIS CASE AGAIN!

third; I FEEL that nagiging 'popularity' contest na lang ang ginagawa ng mga choir - the TOPIC of this thread implies it.
why is it that some choirs prefer to sing 'light' repertoire and avoid big choral works?-kasi takot sila na hindi ito ma-appreciate ng fans nila. why is it that they usually mount concerts na more than half ang popular music?- para sikat, kaya nga 'popular' diba?artistically, some choirs dont go a step further, why? because they cant challenge themselves at contented na sila sa applause na audience nila. how showbiz.

fourth, about the age-old debate on interpretation "...the very virtuosity of the vehicle (human mind) has allowed him to be provocative, to experiment, to THINK AND THEN THINK AGAIN. God save us from conductors and choirs that NEVER CHANGE THEIR WAYS. The most important thing is that he makes us think again. That probing quality, that zest for uncovering the spirit behind the notes, never fails to lift the heart and invigorate the mind..." (Richard Morrison on John Eliot Gardiner - this is why he's my favorite conductor)

after thinking what do you do?- either you shut up or ask questions. i ask; "bakit ganun yung ginawa ni 'conductor' sa 'pyesa'?" - alam ko sagot nyo: "eh yun interpretation nya eh". eh bakit ganun ang interpretation nya?- sagot ng iba sa inyo "eh yun ang alam nya eh"

yes interpretation is up to you, but dears, there are certain internationally accepted GUIDELINES with regards to this so if you're a conductor (singers please talk to your conductor about this) ASK yourself 'enough na ba yung alam ko?' or 'tama ba yung ginagawa ko?' then ask others on their opinion about your work (enough na with artistic PRIDE) for let's face it, pag minsan may natutunan ka din sa iba kahit sa rival mo. tanungin mo din yung sarili mo kung bakit may nagpost dito sa PEx ng hindi maganda tungkol sa art mo.

anong ini-isip mo now? na ang yabang ko. i'm not, ako'y simpleng taga-hanga na asking for more so the last thing would be about AUDIENCE DEVELOPMENT (my personal views of course)

besides the fact that development (from the word itself) is in stages, you have to make sure that you're singing your stuff the right way. the tradition for choirs in our country is to present a concert that usually starts with early music and ends up with pop music: and it might continue for some generations more because they are scared na walang manood sa kanila kapag 'specialzed yung concert nila (ie all madrigal, all romantic period or all poulenc etc.). now there's nothing wrong with this except for one thing - they sing the whole concert through in ONE style. very wrong. then how would your audience know the difference of a BACH motet to a PALESTRINA motet and a MENDELSSOHN motet? and how do you expect them develop interest in these stuff if they cant make sense of it all because you tend to degenerate these 'period' pieces into mere 'fill-ups' in your concert or just to make sure that you follow suit in presenting concerts here? at hindi lang sa classical works yan, pati sa pop, broadway at 20thC music. imagine yourself na kumakanta ng bukas-palad songs in mega operatic placement: kadiri!

now what about the culturati, literati and the well-versed choral fan?-they lose interest in your work. masyado daw kasi kayong showbiz. and trip nyo lang eh yung sisigaw at titili ng 'more, more!' yung fans nyo. yung tasteless at walang basis (bases) na interpretations ay maiikumpara mo sa pagbibigay ng COKE at CHOCOLATE sa isang DIABETIC. ganun kasama.

most of Johann sebastian Bach's keyboard works were not written to entertain but to teach techniques to his children. kaya nyo ba yun? "Your audience wants all of you" would you deny them their right?

so what do you think about this? kung nega yung reaction mo, sige isulat mo, pero mas ma-aapreciate ko yun kung hindi mo pe-personalin ang comment mo. sa mga positive naman ang reaction, sige share mo sa akin ang thoughts mo.

choirboy`

Boccelli
Nov 16, 2001, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by chOirbOy`
EVERYBODY PLEASE TAKE TIME TO READ THIS:

third; I FEEL that nagiging 'popularity' contest na lang ang ginagawa ng mga choir - the TOPIC of this thread implies it.
why is it that some choirs prefer to sing 'light' repertoire and avoid big choral works?-kasi takot sila na hindi ito ma-appreciate ng fans nila. why is it that they usually mount concerts na more than half ang popular music?- para sikat, kaya nga 'popular' diba?artistically, some choirs dont go a step further, why? because they cant challenge themselves at contented na sila sa applause na audience nila. how showbiz.

fourth, about the age-old debate on interpretation "...the very virtuosity of the vehicle (human mind) has allowed him to be provocative, to experiment, to THINK AND THEN THINK AGAIN. God save us from conductors and choirs that NEVER CHANGE THEIR WAYS. The most important thing is that he makes us think again. That probing quality, that zest for uncovering the spirit behind the notes, never fails to lift the heart and invigorate the mind..." (Richard Morrison on John Eliot Gardiner - this is why he's my favorite conductor)

after thinking what do you do?- either you shut up or ask questions. i ask; "bakit ganun yung ginawa ni 'conductor' sa 'pyesa'?" - alam ko sagot nyo: "eh yun interpretation nya eh". eh bakit ganun ang interpretation nya?- sagot ng iba sa inyo "eh yun ang alam nya eh"

yes interpretation is up to you, but dears, there are certain internationally accepted GUIDELINES with regards to this so if you're a conductor (singers please talk to your conductor about this) ASK yourself 'enough na ba yung alam ko?' or 'tama ba yung ginagawa ko?' then ask others on their opinion about your work (enough na with artistic PRIDE) for let's face it, pag minsan may natutunan ka din sa iba kahit sa rival mo. tanungin mo din yung sarili mo kung bakit may nagpost dito sa PEx ng hindi maganda tungkol sa art mo.

anong ini-isip mo now? na ang yabang ko. i'm not, ako'y simpleng taga-hanga na asking for more so the last thing would be about AUDIENCE DEVELOPMENT (my personal views of course)

besides the fact that development (from the word itself) is in stages, you have to make sure that you're singing your stuff the right way. the tradition for choirs in our country is to present a concert that usually starts with early music and ends up with pop music: and it might continue for some generations more because they are scared na walang manood sa kanila kapag 'specialzed yung concert nila (ie all madrigal, all romantic period or all poulenc etc.). now there's nothing wrong with this except for one thing - they sing the whole concert through in ONE style. very wrong. then how would your audience know the difference of a BACH motet to a PALESTRINA motet and a MENDELSSOHN motet? and how do you expect them develop interest in these stuff if they cant make sense of it all because you tend to degenerate these 'period' pieces into mere 'fill-ups' in your concert or just to make sure that you follow suit in presenting concerts here? at hindi lang sa classical works yan, pati sa pop, broadway at 20thC music. imagine yourself na kumakanta ng bukas-palad songs in mega operatic placement: kadiri!

"Your audience wants all of you"

choirboy`

Hello choirboy...

Good post(applause applause)

I agree on your second point: there are choirs who go for the age-old Filipino Choral Concert format (i.e. start with classical...end with pop). I guess people just need to do the change (the one you prescribed) gradually. I can say for a fact that the DLSU Chorale would be a choir who's used to the generic format. But thru the past year, I have seen them inculcate more and more period pieces and drastically improving their repertoire to which they incorporate heavier pieces. (Bihira yun sa Chorale). When I was part of the group we'd usually just include a few heavy pieces and go with the easier more relaxing ones until the end. The performances that would be exceptions to this from our part would be the Mabuhay Pilipinas concerts and the Messiah performances. So for our part, I could say we are gradually contributing to the development of our audience's musical education.(yung hindi enthusiast na audience)

On the point of interpretation: This has been a good issue to discuss... lately, I could say that interpretation(technical) has been really given more focus kasi tougher na ang pressure to give pure interpretations to pieces especially the classical ones. Motets by Poulenc and Mendelssohn are not taken for granted anymore. I admire the Ateneo Glee Club batch 2000-2001's performance and interpretation of Mendelssohn... wala akong masabi! I think lately, talagang inaaral na ng mga choirs ang tamang paginterpret. Minsan, I even collect multiple versions of a piece to get insights on how different local and foreign choirs interpret the song/arrangement/composition and debate the techniques being used by the groups. Tapos we come up with a good summary na dapat ganito ang gawin or whatever... tapos we'll try to incorporate it to the song(well hindi pala ako kasama kasi alumni na ako heheheheh.. sila na lang ang nagiincorporate)... sometimes, talagang babasahin ang piyesa ng note per note para lang ma markahan ang mga critical points.. nagiging obsessive compulsive na ang mga choristers with technical points of choral singing, they leave the aesthetics to their conductor.. :) minsan talagang sinasabihan na rin nila ang conductor pag medyo may na miss out na important technical detail(dahil na rin sa kalabuan ng piyesang ginagamit)...

I like the last quotation... sana ganun lahat... give na give... :)

Yun lang po.. shababay!...

pyket
Nov 20, 2001, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by lactoserum
hello Choirboy and Zion,

im aware of that. i know the banner of this site. but don't you think those criticisms were in good taste? do you think we should all say 'whats on our mind' even if it will be a cost of someone's reputation or it will be a start of a gap/fight!?

i believe that pexers on this thread were educated enough to post comments and reviews, well-written and constructive. but i think, this is becoming a bashing thread also just like other threads in here. and the heck, the first victim is our school's choir. (sad for us)

can we let this thread be distinct from other bashing threads?
i know that people who post here are responsible and credible enough. isn't it? wasn't it? aren't they? weren't they?


medyo 48 years old na yung post, but i can't help myself:

lactoserum: kung constructive versus destructive criticism ng choirs ang pinag-uusapan/pinag-de-debatehan, i think we should all stick to that issue. wag na tayong magsama ng ibang coloration/ibang reading ng issue. kasi, from what i get from your posts, you're not dwelling on the fact na UST Singers as a choir ang pinag-iintrigahan nila. you're dwelling on the fact na UST Singers as a choir OF UST ang may issue --- i.e. you're somehow (unconsciously) adding the school bashing color to the already inflamed argument.

in fairness to the people who were discussing the issue, i don't think they were hinged on the premise that the UST Singers were an ugly bunch of singers because they were from UST. i mean, hindi chinaka ang UST Singers dahil galing silang UST. it just so happened na umayaw yung isang tao sa ginawa ng UST. and it goes without saying that this is not an issue of which school is better. fine they're called the UST Singers, or the DLSU Choral, or the Ateneo College Glee Club, or UPSA, or the Philippine Madrigal Singers (originally "from" UP), but the point isn't really that they're from a particular school. the point is that they are a choral unit. they form a distinct choir who just happens to have a university's name attached to it. and it's the choir that's being criticized, if ever. kebs kung saan sila galing. kung winner rendition, edi winner. kung chaka, edi chaka. hanggang doon lang yun. wala nang school bashing ek involved.


personally, i'm just plain stumped. is this thread here just for chikahan, advertising, and plain praises? paano nga kunyari ayaw ko yung narinig ko at linagay ko dito? wrong venue ba? how can this be a place to speak your mind if i have to totally censor my thoughts to be more attuned to the sensibilities of other people? i believe in freedom and responsibility. i know that i can't always say anything i wish, but to not be able to criticize or vocally dislike something in fear of destroying a faux status quo? i think not...

yun yung mahirap sa mga pilipino eh. feel lagi na dahil umayaw o di sumang-ayon ang isang tao, may galit o inggit o malisyang kasama. pwede namang ayaw ko dahil ayoko lang talaga, di ba? kebs kung sino ako o kung saan ako nanggaling --- basta ayaw ko, ayaw ko, tapos! sino ba tayo na feel natin na dapat sasang-ayon ang lahat sa atin, o na dapat gusto tayo ng lahat ng tao?

nakaka-off lang talagang isipin, i swear!

chOirbOy`
Nov 20, 2001, 09:58 AM
PYKET:

nice outlook. really hope everybody is as open as you are.

seductive
Nov 20, 2001, 10:34 AM
y not check the other young UP choirs? like anyone heard of UP Vocal Ensemble=)

:)

Sung Empress
Nov 20, 2001, 09:33 PM
Hello, choral enthusiasts! Meron ba sa inyong may piyesa nung
"A Christmas Carol?" Not yung Charles Dickens na story but yung song that goes "Sing a song of gladness and cheer...For the time of Christmas is near..." I believe it was included in Jose Mari Chan's Christmas album.

Our small parish choir would like to sing it for Christmas eve, Dec. 24. Plus, it's our dream Christmas piece.

I appeal to your generosity (naks!). Sige na! If you have a copy, please email or send me a private message.

Thank you, thank you, thank you! :smile:

chOirbOy`
Nov 20, 2001, 10:47 PM
SUNG EMPRESS:
am in makati (ayala avenue) every T and TH, 11.30 am to 3.30 pm. email me sa druid20_79@yahoo.com for the details.

freebie
Nov 21, 2001, 04:30 AM
The DLSU chorale alumni will have a concert on December 15, 2001 (Saturday) at PhilAmLife Auditorium, UN Ave, Manila, 7PM. Ticket price @ P175 (seats first come first serve basis). This concert is for the benefit of Bantay Bata Foundation and ?(forgot). Hope to see you all contributing to this thread. :rolleyes: ;) :cool:

GadoGado
Nov 21, 2001, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by pyket


medyo 48 years old na yung post, but i can't help myself:

lactoserum: kung constructive versus destructive criticism ng choirs ang pinag-uusapan/pinag-de-debatehan, i think we should all stick to that issue. wag na tayong magsama ng ibang coloration/ibang reading ng issue. kasi, from what i get from your posts, you're not dwelling on the fact na UST Singers as a choir ang pinag-iintrigahan nila. you're dwelling on the fact na UST Singers as a choir OF UST ang may issue --- i.e. you're somehow (unconsciously) adding the school bashing color to the already inflamed argument.

in fairness to the people who were discussing the issue, i don't think they were hinged on the premise that the UST Singers were an ugly bunch of singers because they were from UST. i mean, hindi chinaka ang UST Singers dahil galing silang UST. it just so happened na umayaw yung isang tao sa ginawa ng UST. and it goes without saying that this is not an issue of which school is better. fine they're called the UST Singers, or the DLSU Choral, or the Ateneo College Glee Club, or UPSA, or the Philippine Madrigal Singers (originally "from" UP), but the point isn't really that they're from a particular school. the point is that they are a choral unit. they form a distinct choir who just happens to have a university's name attached to it. and it's the choir that's being criticized, if ever. kebs kung saan sila galing. kung winner rendition, edi winner. kung chaka, edi chaka. hanggang doon lang yun. wala nang school bashing ek involved.


personally, i'm just plain stumped. is this thread here just for chikahan, advertising, and plain praises? paano nga kunyari ayaw ko yung narinig ko at linagay ko dito? wrong venue ba? how can this be a place to speak your mind if i have to totally censor my thoughts to be more attuned to the sensibilities of other people? i believe in freedom and responsibility. i know that i can't always say anything i wish, but to not be able to criticize or vocally dislike something in fear of destroying a faux status quo? i think not...

yun yung mahirap sa mga pilipino eh. feel lagi na dahil umayaw o di sumang-ayon ang isang tao, may galit o inggit o malisyang kasama. pwede namang ayaw ko dahil ayoko lang talaga, di ba? kebs kung sino ako o kung saan ako nanggaling --- basta ayaw ko, ayaw ko, tapos! sino ba tayo na feel natin na dapat sasang-ayon ang lahat sa atin, o na dapat gusto tayo ng lahat ng tao?

nakaka-off lang talagang isipin, i swear!

totoo yan, kung anong gusto mong sabihin sana di naman chachakahin ng mga tao kasi minsan feel ko plastikan na lang ang nangyayari dito, yun bang congrats congrats sa concert tapos sasabihin napakaganda kahit di naman talaga nagustuhan.

Z*E*U*S
Nov 21, 2001, 10:11 PM
medyo plastikan? halos puro plastikan, ganun na nga ang nangyayari. :(

ang puno nga naman, pag maraming bunga, binabato...

tsk! tsk! tsk!

Monteverdi
Nov 22, 2001, 02:56 AM
Well, I guess we do have to accept the reality that this is a venue for us to speak out the truth...

I will agree that we have to say it properly...in a way na ***** hindi offensive to others (especially to the choir/conductor/artists or fans involved or the object of the criticism). But then again, kahit ano pang fair rhetoric ang gamitin...basta negative criticism, talagang will be met with a harsher backlash!

True yung sabi ni Pyket...so kung ayaw talaga natin ang isang bagay (walang personalan, just on artistic grounds) what VENUE shall we use...hindi ba dito?

GadoGado...kilala na ba kita???

zion
Nov 22, 2001, 03:06 AM
Ok already.

Basta ang main point is this (if i may summarize...):

PEX is a VENUE for FREEDOM of EXPRESSION. EVERYBODY has a RIGHT to post ANYTHING they want as long as it is done with UTMOST RESPECT FOR THE SENSIBILITIES OF OTHERS.

Gets mo? Gets Ko!

chOirbOy`
Nov 22, 2001, 05:41 AM
hehe, cge na... what do you guys think about my post?? (think and think again)

really wanna hear your views about it.

etnaydeTSU
Nov 23, 2001, 12:04 AM
Choirboy

i just wanna ask this question...did you pass the audition of that choir...?

just bumping with the possible situation.

Boccelli
Nov 23, 2001, 02:05 AM
Hi all..
Choirboy.. nagreply na ako dun sa post mo ha..:)

Has anyone heard of the Bringham Young University Singers (BYU University Singers)? I heard a couple of songs from their website.. They sound very good... Wala lang sharing.. kung sino man ang may CD nila sana makahiram ako..:)

chOirbOy`
Nov 23, 2001, 02:50 AM
etnaydeTSU:

if your referring to that choir in your school, nope, I DID NOT PASS THEIR AUDITIONS (circa 1996) when i was still an art stude there. hindi ko kinakahiya yun coz it was one of those stuff that changed me. it made me re assess my musical (vocal) incapacities so i strove to better myself ( even now, alam ko di magaling voice ko )

so what was your question all about? is it one of those posts intended to cause personal damage? does not being accepted in that group invalidate me to assess their musicality now? - i dont think so.

You gotta know me first (that's a threat!)


Boccell: salamat.

chOirbOy`
Nov 23, 2001, 07:45 AM
etnaydeTSU:

kilala ba kita? kasi yung mga nakakaalam nung bagay na yun eh either very close friends ko, or member nang grupo nung time na yun, at isang member nila na taga dito.

am just wondering kung bakit lahat na lang ng nagagalit sa kin dito eh masyadong personal and tira sa kin (remember markus_creed?) but if you would kindly read the previous pages, wala naman akong sinisiraang grupo.

wala naman personalan. dun sa mga taong sa hindi ko alam na dahilan ay nagagalit sa kin, PLEASE, tigilan nyo na ko. tahimik na nga lang ako dito sa cavite.

at dun naman sa mga friends ko dito, pede ba natin ibalik ang anonimity dito sa PEx, nang matigil na yang personalan na yan.

PLEASE... be more considerate. tirahin nyo na musicality ko, wag lang ang aking pagkatao.

Pattie
Nov 24, 2001, 04:47 PM
Paki update naman ng mga concerts this December. (kung meron)

zion
Nov 25, 2001, 09:55 AM
Wa bang pera ang mga top hotels ng bayan o talagang BARAT lang sila?

Heard from a reliable source (na naman!) na Shangri-La EDSA and Makati would be fielding their respective IN-HOUSE CHOIRS for their x-mas caroling (made up of employees). If this is the case:

1. Kawawa naman ang mga choirs at nabawasan sila ng pagkakakitaan ngayong pasko.

2. Maganda ba kaya ang tunog ng mga in-house choirs na yan at mapantayan ang mga magagaling? (obvious ba at sour-graping ako, hehehe.)

I'll have a BLUE Christmas without you...(piyok!) :(

Kayo mga kapatid, kumusta ang gigs ngayong Pasko?

cutie54
Nov 25, 2001, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by seductive
y not check the other young UP choirs? like anyone heard of UP Vocal Ensemble=)

:)

yup, the youngest to date. :)

are you a member? or have you been to one of their concerts/performances?

Boccelli
Nov 26, 2001, 04:19 PM
Pattie...
the concerts I know so far for the month of December are by

The De La Salle University Chorale
December 7, 2001
La Salle Main Chapel


The De La Salle University Chorale Alumni
December 15, 2001
Philamlife Auditorium


If you are interested in any of the concerts above I'll be happy to send you an email on who to contact. Or just go to the venue on the specified dates.

cutie54
Nov 26, 2001, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by seductive
y not check the other young UP choirs? like anyone heard of UP Vocal Ensemble=)

:)

link to UPVE...

UP Vocal Ensemble (http://www.peyups.com/article.khtml?sid=280&mode=&order=0)

;)

Pattie
Nov 27, 2001, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by Boccelli
Pattie...
the concerts I know so far for the month of December are by

The De La Salle University Chorale
December 7, 2001
La Salle Main Chapel


The De La Salle University Chorale Alumni
December 15, 2001
Philamlife Auditorium


If you are interested in any of the concerts above I'll be happy to send you an email on who to contact. Or just go to the venue on the specified dates.


Thanks for the info! :)

minette
Nov 27, 2001, 05:49 PM
De La Salle University Manila - Chorale will stage its Christmas concert on December 7, 7pm. Chapel of the Most Blessed Sacrament, DLSU Manila. Nood kayo. P100 lang ang ticket. For ticket inquiries, contact me (0917-5380901) or Ms. Janeth Salceda of the Cultural Arts Office (524-4611 loc 702/737). Thanks!

980042
Nov 27, 2001, 09:18 PM
Does anyone know something about UP Vocal Ensemble? Who's their conductor? What genres do they sing? I'm just curious about them:)

cutie54
Nov 28, 2001, 08:46 AM
Originally posted by 980042
Does anyone know something about UP Vocal Ensemble? Who's their conductor? What genres do they sing? I'm just curious about them:)

Yung choirmaster nila si Raul C. Navarro of UP Diliman, asst. prof sa College of Music, dept of conducting. here's a write-up from their debut concert souv prog...

"...Siya ay nagtapos ng Masterado sa Choral Conducting sa nabanggit na paaralan noong 1999, at kasalukuyang nagdo-Doktorado sa Pilosopiya sa Kolehiyo ng Arte at Literatura. Natamo niya ang degri sa Batsilyer sa kursong Choral Conducting (Magna cum Laude, UP Kolehiyo ng Musika, 1996), Music Education (cum Laude, Sta. Isabel College-Maynila, 1990) at Sertifiko sa Piano (SIC, 1989) "

As for the kind of music, their debut concert featured sacred music (prayer of st. francis, ama majesty and glory, etc), broadway, some popular english songs, and even a disney medley, and of course filipino kundimans and OPM.

Their last concert, Bayan Ko, was held Sept. 21 (Martial law) and featured an all-Filipino repertoire, from great composers/arrangers as Julian Balita, Jerry Dadap, Nhick Pacis, Ryan Cayabyab, and even Sir Raul Navarro himself. (their renditions of Ikaw , Dumbele , and Isa, Dalawa, Tatlo are his)

hope that helps! ;)

:D

heyderguy
Nov 28, 2001, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by cutie54



Their last concert, Bayan Ko, was held Sept. 21 (Martial law) and featured an all-Filipino repertoire, from great composers/arrangers as Julian Balita, Jerry Dadap, Nhick Pacis, Ryan Cayabyab, and even Sir Raul Navarro himself. (their renditions of Ikaw , Dumbele , and Isa, Dalawa, Tatlo are his)

hope that helps! ;)

:D

DUMBELE, arranged by another conductor?!?! i wanna hear their rendition..., actually, namisinterpret ko yung post ni miss cutie54. i thought mr. navarro composed his own version of dumbele...yun lang.

God bless!

Zack
Dec 1, 2001, 05:19 PM
May mga concerts ba?

Zack
Dec 6, 2001, 04:25 AM
Originally posted by koralkoralan
bakit wala ng nagpo-post sa thread na to? buhayin nyo naman mga tomasino. nasa The Academe sya. see you there mga koral peeps of UST, malapit na ang inter-collegiate competition natin. good luck sating lahat. hi zack and enteng.

hi koralkoralan!

kelan ang Inter-collegiate? update mo ko ha. Tumahimik na ang Enteng. :)

enteng.00
Dec 6, 2001, 06:41 AM
zack, tumpak ka dyan, tahimik nalang me kasi baka, alam mo na,
mahirap nang madaplisan at mandaplis.

maiba ako. koral koralan, the intercollegiate songfest will be on the 8 of february next year. it will be spearheaded and organized by the 3 year in-a row for 3 times ics champion for choral group the ust pharmacy glee club (publicity ba) and ust student coordinating council. the theme would be HIMIG TOMASINO. there will be 4 competitions, for solo, duet, pop-group (ala n'sync) and the highlight (would be), the choral competition. teka, kilala ba kita? taga sang faculty/college ka?

Zack
Dec 6, 2001, 09:14 PM
Enteng.00

"No comment" :D Ireserve mo ako for the Intercollegiate ok. CDs ko? :rolleyes:

koralkoralan

Do i know you too? :)

enteng.00
Dec 6, 2001, 10:59 PM
eash, yah, tamihik at no-comment nalang tayo. the release of the contest piece will be - ought-to-be- shoul-be next week. sir robert d. will be the over-all chair (punong-abala in short) together with the pgc and he'll arrange the contest piece for this incoming ics. may homecoming nga pala sila ng pwu choral later sa pwu. musta na? *****, la pa din ako pera magpapasko na. yung cd mo nga a pala puro amag na. joke. *** eh, di moko tinetext eh. pero sobrang busy talaga ko, lam mo naman. . . . .

Zack
Dec 7, 2001, 08:31 PM
Enteng.00

Oks lang ako pero mejo busy (kuno) sa trabaho :)
Basta update mo ako regarding sa ICS. BTW, don't forget my gift this Christmas ha :D

ardi
Dec 10, 2001, 11:47 AM
hi to choirlowla, boyong boccelli and enteng. sori sa iba ha -- sila lang ang kilala ko personally

yun nga! we're back. just to say hi to all! *** mga nagtatanong tungkol sa pwu -- ok lang sila. nagkaroon kami ng homecoming sa school last dec. 6 -- di ko na pina-announce dahil ang college of music ang nag-organize nito. yung mga gustong makarinig sa choir siguro sa feb 27 na lang -- me project ata ang ccp c/o menchie mantaring with different university choirs -- na-invite and pwu.

choirlowla -- meet ko and baklitang conductor ng esoterics. lolang lola siya talaga. ang hirap ng tolosa this year dahil yung grand prix winner ng 1999 (lunds vocalensemble) third sila -- folklore pa. tapos ang esoterics nga -- kinanta din nila ang magnificat ni swayne (ewan ko kung nakuha sa inyo yun) 9th lang sila overall.

boyong kumusta ka na. sino yung marcel na cnasabi mo? napagusapan din namin ikaw ni leonor dietz. namimiss ka na daw niya. o siya sa susunod na muli

Boccelli
Dec 11, 2001, 02:26 AM
Hi ardi...

Congratulations muli sa panalo niyo sa europe...
Nakakatuwa naman at nakauwi na rin kayo... ang tagal ever ng trip! Sana nga magconcert soon ang PWU at nami-mystify na ang mga tao dito:)

Hope you are doing ok. Nga pala...

may concert ang DLSU Chorale Alumni sa Saturday (December 15, 2001) sa may Philamlife Auditorium. Kung gusto niyo ng tickets i-PM niyo lang ako at ng mapa-reserve ko kayo (P 175 each).

Salamat!!!

enteng.00
Dec 11, 2001, 06:59 AM
i took an examination for my thesis-work kc last friday kaya di me nakapunta sa pwu, at tsaka di naman me invited diba? joke! basta, we'll be there on the 21st - sosyal, rcbc! nakanta na po pala ng glee club ang 'bituin' ng medyo ok, konting midas-robert's-touch nalang. dami na daw po naghihintay ng contest piece, di naman namin masabi kung kailan basti sabi namin before the year ends. dami ko pong ginagawa ngayon para siyempre maka-martsa sa march, di nga muna ako makaka2loy ng proper kc alam mo na. . . . tnext po kita nung last week di ka naman reply. anyway, dumadaan na po ako sa kanila after ng praktice para naman di ko sila mapabayaan hehehe.

zack, ako nga dapat regaluhan mo eh, yungcd bayaran mo pag binigay ko na sayo - hihihi! nuod ka sa binondo sa sat. tapos sa 24th panuorin mo sa tv yung sa glorietta namin. k?

Zack
Dec 11, 2001, 07:51 PM
Ako manunuod ng DLSU Chorale Alumni on Saturday. May kilala ata ako dun . . . :D

Enteng.00

So kelan mo sa akin maibibigay yung cd? Isama mo na rin yung gift ko ok? Anong channel ipapalabas yung concert niyo? Dami ko atang tanong. . .

enteng.00
Dec 11, 2001, 09:19 PM
hoy S, sobra ka naman, dami ko gift sayo ha! ikaw naman ang magbigay sakin. medyo madalas na akong nakaka gamit ng comp. dahil nagagamit ko na ang free-access ko dito sa comp lab namin, dahil may subject na ako! yehey! the glorietta thing was just a performance for penshopppe and ayala-mall events, it was not a full concert but just a simple show with a christmas theme. kasama namin yung CMM (mga ballet dancers) with ryan agoncillo na host. punta ka nalang sa binondo church sa sat k?

johnvianney
Dec 12, 2001, 12:52 AM
Ardi : Ay mabuhay ka lowla Roberta Flak....Na-miss kita nung mga events ni OA July celebration I was there...at siempre..big surprise para sa Lowla OA ang aking sfeyshal appearance or rather apparishen.. Si Maricel Tactay eh kilala mo yon at dapat kasama nga siya sa grupong niyong nag-tour pero dahil based na nga siya sa U.S.. eh she wasnt able to. Bongga yan..yang ang aking protege ekk..In fact may CD siyang ETERNAL LIFE at ka duet pa ang SAL MALAKI w/c was recorded in L.A..this year...Pero babalik siya dyan ng March to give a graduation recital ekk..and finish her other degrees...
Very smassing suckcess ba ang tour niyo ???

Zack
Dec 12, 2001, 02:22 AM
Enteng.00

Haayy. . Anong oras ba yang concert niyo sa Binondo Church? Supr traffik kaya pagpunta dun? What time? May DLSU concert pa akong pupuntahan eh. Tapos, makinig ka muna sa proff niyo ok. Puro surf kasi inaatupag mo eh. :D kidding. . .

enteng.00
Dec 12, 2001, 06:09 AM
S, di ko pa alam kung anong oras - kasama namin Manila Philharmonic. magaling ka namang magdrive eh diba? napagalitan nga ako kanina ng prof ko kasi nagdownload ako ng mga kanta ng Cambridge at kung sino sino paang grupo, tapos napuno files ko - nahuli ako sa comp center! haha!

Zack
Dec 12, 2001, 06:17 PM
Teng

Sabi ko na nga ba eh. mahuhuli ka rin ng proff mo. hahaha! kelangan malaman ko oras ng concert niyo ok pera makuha ko na gift ko.

Boccelli
Dec 12, 2001, 06:43 PM
Hi Zack...
I don't think we've met before... bakit ganun.. :(
It's kewl that you are watching the concert this Saturday... pero... wag mag-expect dahil mga alumni na kami ... pero we'll do our best at sana magustuhan ng audience ang show... :) We're not doing it for choral supremacy.. we're doing this concert because we miss performing and we miss entertaining the audience... so wag masyadong magexpect ng faboe technical stuff ok... ika nga... just relax and enjoy the show... :)

Shababay... :)

Zack
Dec 12, 2001, 09:46 PM
Bocelli:

Kasali ka pala sa Concert on Saturday so I'm sure kilala mo yung kilala ko. He told me, I think July pa lang ata or August, na magkakaroon ng concert ang DLSU Alumni this December for the benefit of something. Hanapin na lang kita sa stage on saturday. :D The best of luck kuya! :)

ardi
Dec 15, 2001, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by johnvianney
Ardi : Ay mabuhay ka lowla Roberta Flak....Na-miss kita nung mga events ni OA July celebration I was there...at siempre..big surprise para sa Lowla OA ang aking sfeyshal appearance or rather apparishen.. Si Maricel Tactay eh kilala mo yon at dapat kasama nga siya sa grupong niyong nag-tour pero dahil based na nga siya sa U.S.. eh she wasnt able to. Bongga yan..yang ang aking protege ekk..In fact may CD siyang ETERNAL LIFE at ka duet pa ang SAL MALAKI w/c was recorded in L.A..this year...Pero babalik siya dyan ng March to give a graduation recital ekk..and finish her other degrees...
Very smassing suckcess ba ang tour niyo ???

Lowla,
kumusta na. it was unfortunate that we had to leave before oa's celebration last july. si maricel pala yung sinasabi mo. NAMAN! effective and syrup (magaling) siya. Hindi SUCKcess ang tour namin dahil super behave ang lola ardi mo sa mga halamang dagat doon sa europa. pero otherwise, successful naman kami doon. kelan ka tayo magkikita uli? baka mag-US *** isa kong tnuturuang choir next year sana magkita tayo. O siya babu!

kender_kin
Dec 15, 2001, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by 980042
Does anyone know something about UP Vocal Ensemble? Who's their conductor? What genres do they sing? I'm just curious about them:)

merong Christmas concert ang UPVE later sa Luneta grandstand...don't know what time though. i think it's in the papers. ;)

teena
Dec 15, 2001, 09:26 PM
:) question
when yung performance ng chorale-main sa grnblt/(ba)?? tnx:):chef:

surfinpinoy
Dec 15, 2001, 09:44 PM
it's my first time here kaya medyo nahihilo pa ako sa pagbabasa ng mga posts dito sa thread na to pero mas nahilo ata ako don sa isang thread "Which is the best college choir in UST?". anyway, mukhang aliw dito sa thread na to. baka mapadalas ako sa pagbisita dito, aliw talaga. actually bago lang ako sa industriya kumbaga kaya nangangapa pa ako, ngayon pa lang ako medyo naho-hook sa choral music when i entered college kaya am really at a loss pero marami akong natututunan sa mga posts dito, may nakakatawa, nakakaawa at nakakatuwa naman.

toutlescabinets
Dec 16, 2001, 06:11 AM
dear choralmother,
good luck sa world youth choir this winter session. kasama mo pa si harangking. uy ingit ako sa inyo.
merry christmas sa inyong lahat.

Zack
Dec 16, 2001, 10:22 PM
Congrats sa DLSU Chorale Alumni :D

Boccelli
Dec 18, 2001, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by Zack
Congrats sa DLSU Chorale Alumni :D

Salamat sa pagnood.. :) nakita ka nga daw nung isa sa mga members namin.. Saya talagang mag concert ng wala masyadong pressure.. we just had fun... parang bale wala na sa amin kung may minor errors ... basta fun lang... :)

:) Thanks again to the rest of you who watched the show...

Please watch the present batch of the DLSU Chorale sa Greenbelt tomorrow ng gabi ata... :)

Zack
Dec 18, 2001, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by Boccelli


Salamat sa pagnood.. :) nakita ka nga daw nung isa sa mga members namin..


Shux! kilala niya ako? Sana kilala ko rin sha. :D

toutlescabinets
Dec 19, 2001, 11:41 PM
paki lang ng madz:
hear ye! hear ye!
madz will have a yearender concert @ CCP Main theater on the 23 of december. tickets available @ P 500, 400, 200, 150 and 100. text 0917-2720300 for reservations. group discount available. :)

cosmic_chick
Dec 19, 2001, 11:44 PM
hello...i just want to say that i enjoy listening to the Ateneo Glee Club and the Philippine Madrigal Singers...would anyone know when and where will their next performance be? i just watched the Madz a few weeks ago and they were sooo good...i also watched the ateneo glee club a few times and really enjoyed their music. would anyone know where i can download their songs (Madz and ateneo glee club)? thanks so much!

tuningfork
Dec 20, 2001, 07:49 PM
hi. concert ng MADZ sa CCP Main Theater on Dec. 23 Sunday, 8 pm. For tickets, just text or call 0917-8361875. Ticket price: P500, 400, 300, 200, 150, 100. May group discount available. See you.

Pattie
Dec 21, 2001, 01:45 AM
Watch tayo ng MADZ on Sunday!

Boccelli
Dec 26, 2001, 06:25 PM
Ganda ng MADZ concert last Sunday!! I'm soooo happy i watched :)

Ganda ng pagka-kanta ng O Nata Lux... napalutang ako .. (serious)... malinis at kuhang kuha ang thickness ng sound required for the song... parang 30++ ang kumanta.. galing!
:)

Zack
Dec 27, 2001, 05:01 PM
I totally agree! I watched the Madz twice (Sat & Sun). Ganda ng sound ngayon ng Madz. :)

pyket
Dec 27, 2001, 07:42 PM
sa mga nanood ng madz nung saturday/sunday:

kung nanonood kayo ng ACGC, mapapansin ninyong isa sa mga star basses ng ACGC ay nasa Madz na ngayon. he finally got his dream na naka-perform with the Madz, and no-less sa CCP Main pa po... wala lang. i'm just happy for my friend. :D

go papo!!!! :) :) :) :)

Pattie
Dec 28, 2001, 01:41 AM
I also watched the Madz last Sun. May crush ako sa kanila. Bass na Chubby and Cutee! Yummy! Shucks! :D

Boccelli
Dec 28, 2001, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by Pattie
I also watched the Madz last Sun. May crush ako sa kanila. Bass na Chubby and Cutee! Yummy! Shucks! :D

Hi Pattie...
Sinong Bass ito... san located?... medyo ilan ilan rin kasi silang chubby eh.. :) may solo ba siya or something?!?!?!?!?

veees
Dec 28, 2001, 07:49 PM
CORO SAN BENILDO !! shempre.....love your own.... :)

Pattie
Dec 28, 2001, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by Boccelli


Hi Pattie...
Sinong Bass ito... san located?... medyo ilan ilan rin kasi silang chubby eh.. :) may solo ba siya or something?!?!?!?!?

Nagdrums sha sa Circle of Life. Shucks!!! :D

Zack
Dec 28, 2001, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by Pattie


Nagdrums sha sa Circle of Life. Shucks!!! :D


Hmmm. . . mukhang bata yung crush mo Pattie ah. Baby Face! :D

Boccelli
Dec 28, 2001, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by Zack
Hmmm. . . mukhang bata yung crush mo Pattie ah. Baby Face! :D

Hmmmm... shucks.. nakalimutan ko tuloy kung sino yung nag drums... :( si tu-tut ata.. :)

FAVE KO FOREVER ANG O NATA LUX!!!! AS IN!!!!

Zack
Dec 29, 2001, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by Boccelli


Hmmmm... shucks.. nakalimutan ko tuloy kung sino yung nag drums... :( si tu-tut ata.. :)

FAVE KO FOREVER ANG O NATA LUX!!!! AS IN!!!!

Mejo maliit sha na chubby. Maputi tapos mukha shang bata. Tama ba ako Pattie? :)

Pattie
Dec 29, 2001, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by Zack


Mejo maliit sha na chubby. Maputi tapos mukha shang bata. Tama ba ako Pattie? :)

Yeah. Super crush ko sha. Parang ang sarap niyang yakapin. :)

chiquita
Dec 30, 2001, 10:47 AM
ang galeng ng Madz! they sang for my couson's wedding a few days ago and many people were just watching the choir instead of paying attention to what was happening in the mass...one of my cousins said she was getting goose-bumps when she heard them singing :D ...thanx for gracing us with you presence Madz...

fujitsu
Dec 31, 2001, 12:37 AM
gud day!

any info r.e. the showdown in feb at ccp?

Zack
Jan 1, 2002, 06:14 AM
Originally posted by fujitsu
gud day!

any info r.e. the showdown in feb at ccp?


Oo nga, kelan ba ang show?

CHELow
Jan 1, 2002, 11:12 AM
Maligayang pasko at manigong bagong taon sa inyong lahat!Maraming Salamat nga pala sa mga tumangkilik ng aming palabas. Sana po ay patuloy tayong sumuporta sa mga coro ng Pilipinas na nais mag dala ng dignidad at Onor sa ating bansa.


I tenk yu.

:D :D :D :D :D

Boccelli
Jan 2, 2002, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by Zack



Oo nga, kelan ba ang show?

Ano tong showdown na ito na pinost niyo!?!?!?!?!

Zack
Jan 2, 2002, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by Boccelli


Ano tong showdown na ito na pinost niyo!?!?!?!?!

It's a must see show because it’s a presentation of the best University Choirs in one concert at CCP. February 27, 2002. :D

fujitsu
Jan 2, 2002, 09:03 PM
thanks for the info.

sinech sinech ba mga grupis na kasalidumay?

storybook_lady
Jan 2, 2002, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by Pattie


Yeah. Super crush ko sha. Parang ang sarap niyang yakapin. :)

pattie: last concert i watched sa kanila (PCIB), nasa dulo ata siya. siya kaya yun? :)

uuyyy...merong may crush kay huggable bass ng MADZ :) sikat ka na ngayon. :)

Zack
Jan 3, 2002, 12:11 AM
Alam ko pwesto niya. If you are facing the Madz, nasa right side siya. :D

Boccelli
Jan 3, 2002, 12:29 AM
Sino ba ito.. yung nasa right side lang or yung dulong right???

dalawa yun eh..:)

Pattie
Jan 3, 2002, 06:39 PM
Basta sha yung nag drums sa circle of life. Huggable Bass ng MADZ. :D

Pattie
Jan 4, 2002, 09:43 PM
I've searched sa internet and here's what I got. :D

http://www.geocities.com/imaginero/mehan/veneracion.jpg

Zack
Jan 4, 2002, 10:41 PM
Originally posted by Pattie
I've searched sa internet and here's what I got. :D

http://www.geocities.com/imaginero/mehan/veneracion.jpg


Sabi ko na nga ba tama ako eh. :D

Boccelli
Jan 4, 2002, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by Pattie
I've searched sa internet and here's what I got. :D

http://www.geocities.com/imaginero/mehan/veneracion.jpg
Ah ok.. kilala ko na kung sino.. hehehehe.. tama.. yung nga yun.. :)

Wow.. magtatayo ka ba ng fan club for *** Pattie?

Pattie
Jan 5, 2002, 01:29 AM
Originally posted by Boccelli

Ah ok.. kilala ko na kung sino.. hehehehe.. tama.. yung nga yun.. :)

Wow.. magtatayo ka ba ng fan club for *** Pattie?

Hmm . . . pls don't give me ideas. :D
Crush na crush ko sha. :D

Zack
Jan 7, 2002, 11:44 PM
:D

Boccelli
Jan 8, 2002, 06:56 PM
Tama na ang kahibangan na ito.. hehehehehehehe

I wonder where everyone else is?... people have been quiet for the past month..

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!

Speak up!

When is the choral concert you guys have been talking about?

Tebaldi
Jan 9, 2002, 04:15 AM
Happy new year everyone!

Hi Boccelli. Since no one else seems to be answering your question, I think they're referring to the CCP concert in February involving Madz, ACGC, Lasalle, and UST. That's what I heard, at least. :)

Monteverdi
Jan 9, 2002, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by Tebaldi
Happy new year everyone!

Hi Boccelli. Since no one else seems to be answering your question, I think they're referring to the CCP concert in February involving Madz, ACGC, Lasalle, and UST. That's what I heard, at least. :)

Yup, that's gonna be on the 7th of Feb daw. Ticket price range from P1,500 to P3,600.... :) joke lang. Will wait for the ever infamous CCP box office to release details...sana naman efficient sila ngayon at matino sila magdistribute ng tickets!

Also heard that the debut of the San Miguel Master Chorale and Orchestra has been moved....when na kaya? Mother?

Zack
Jan 9, 2002, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by Monteverdi


Yup, that's gonna be on the 7th of Feb daw. Ticket price range from P1,500 to P3,600.... :) joke lang. Will wait for the ever infamous CCP box office to release details...sana naman efficient sila ngayon at matino sila magdistribute ng tickets!

Also heard that the debut of the San Miguel Master Chorale and Orchestra has been moved....when na kaya? Mother?

Reliable Sources said that the Festival of Choirs will be on the 27th of Feb. Sana Tama :D

zion
Jan 11, 2002, 02:49 AM
Originally posted by Tebaldi
Happy new year everyone!

Hi Boccelli. Since no one else seems to be answering your question, I think they're referring to the CCP concert in February involving Madz, ACGC, Lasalle, and UST. That's what I heard, at least. :)

Teka, san ang UPCC at ang Arezzo rep sa Grand Prix 2002 na UPSA?

Gusto ko rin silang marinig para kumpleto ang putahe. Imagine, ALL THE GRAND PRIX PARTICIPANTS IN ONE CONCERT?!? Bongga!

M_Lover
Jan 15, 2002, 07:20 PM
:D :D Kaaliw naman yung previous page. Sino crush ni Pattie? Si LEO yun. Cutie nga siya. Crush ko nga rin siya eh. :blush2: Law student daw siya sa UE ata. Siguro super smart niya...

toutlescabinets
Jan 15, 2002, 08:49 PM
c leo nga ata yon.
galing siyang UE at nag-aaral ng law ngayon sa arellano.
:bounce2: :bounce2:

bOnnie_piNk
Jan 15, 2002, 08:52 PM
Ang alam ko, hindi lang Madrigals, ACGC, UST Singers, at DLSU Chorale ang magkakaroon ng performance. Kasama rin ang Philippine Women's University (PWU) at Philippine Normal Univeristy (PNU) so choirs. According to Sir Montet (current ACGC conductor), magaling sila, and there will be other excellent chorales too

Pattie
Jan 15, 2002, 08:58 PM
:D :D :D

Pattie
Jan 15, 2002, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by toutlescabinets
c leo nga ata yon.
galing siyang UE at nag-aaral ng law ngayon sa arellano.
:bounce2: :bounce2:

Wow. Infos ha. Ilang taon na siya? :D

Basta gusto ko siyang yakapin. :lovealot:

zion
Jan 17, 2002, 03:07 AM
Originally posted by bOnnie_piNk
Ang alam ko, hindi lang Madrigals, ACGC, UST Singers, at DLSU Chorale ang magkakaroon ng performance. Kasama rin ang Philippine Women's University (PWU) at Philippine Normal Univeristy (PNU) so choirs. According to Sir Montet (current ACGC conductor), magaling sila, and there will be other excellent chorales too

Dont know much about PNU and PWU choirs. Basta kasama dapat ang mga Grand Prix reps--Madz, UPSA, ACGC, Ust. Sana finale ang apat na ito para cute! :D

fujitsu
Jan 17, 2002, 08:18 PM
kaloka ang mga press releases chinky! de super pressured ang mga participating choirs nyan? baket wala ang upcc!!??

980042
Jan 20, 2002, 11:03 AM
Wow talaga? May concert with all the Great Choirs of the Islands of the Philippines? COOL!:)

What about the new choir ng Ateneo - yung Ateneo Chamber? Kasali rin ba? Heard about that new group e! Wow, Mr. Montet is the new conductor ng ACGC? Looks like we have an old choir (but new batch) to watch out for, kasi nga puro bago din members ng ACGC.

It's gona be a nyt of different musical genres and there's really a lot of things to see with the amalgam of choirs participating. Parang festival of great Philippine choirs! Sana, ma-formalize ito into something like this every year... tapos mag-expand into an international thing... hehehe

It's gona be a wonderful night on the 27th! Kita-kits tayong lahat!

GadoGado
Jan 21, 2002, 07:19 AM
Originally posted by bOnnie_piNk
Ang alam ko, hindi lang Madrigals, ACGC, UST Singers, at DLSU Chorale ang magkakaroon ng performance. Kasama rin ang Philippine Women's University (PWU) at Philippine Normal Univeristy (PNU) so choirs. According to Sir Montet (current ACGC conductor), magaling sila, and there will be other excellent chorales too

this will be the first time, the new batch of acgc will be heard by the small choral community of the philippines

Z*E*U*S
Jan 22, 2002, 10:20 PM
hmmmmp! :shakehead:
ano to? 'silent-counter-strike' chinky show?

Boccelli
Jan 23, 2002, 03:57 AM
Im back... wala pa rin bang final word on the Festival of Choirs concert?????

JohnnyBBad
Jan 23, 2002, 07:50 AM
Well, no, unfortunately the Ateneo Chamber Singers weren't invited to the Best of the Best concert on February 27. It seems they just invisted the university-based choirs :redsmile:

More on the Ateneo Chamber singers:

The Ateneo Chamber Singers (ACS) is the official choir of the Church of the Gesu thats being built in the campus of the Ateneo de Manila University. It's plan is to eventually concentrate on sacred music of various period and styles. The group is being handled by Jonathan Velasco, and is composed of the alumni of the Ateneo College Glee Club, mainly from the batch that toured last year and in the year 2000. Watch out for the inagural concert sometime in July, in conjuction with the opening of the Church of the Gesu and St. Ignatius' feastday as well.

I was listening to the rehearsal recording of the most recent winter session of the World Youth Choir. As it was being handled by JoNathan Velasco, they naturally had a fair selection of Filipino pieces and arrangements:

A Questa Me (Ryan Caybyab)
Sanctus/Agnus Dei (Ryan Cayabyab)
Tinig ng Lupa (Ruben Federizon)
Ilay Gandangan (Rodolfo Delarmente)
Caturog na Nonoy (arr. George Hernandez)
Mmmbop (Madz arrangement - di ko alam kung sino e :mconfused:)
Circle of Life (arr. Anna Abeleda)
No Importa la Distancia (arr. John Pamintuan)
Paraiso (arr. JC Merino)

I think I missed out an item, but I can't remember :bonkself:
Well, listening to them sort weirded me out. I know it was suppose to sound like that, but somehow it , well, didn't sound quite "right" :blah: I guess the character and flavor just wasn't there. One can hear immediately the difference.

IBA TALAGA ANG PINOY CHOIR!!! :glee:

See you guys on the 27th of February at CCP!

Boccelli
Jan 23, 2002, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by JohnnyBBad
Well, no, unfortunately the Ateneo Chamber Singers weren't invited to the Best of the Best concert on February 27. It seems they just invisted the university-based choirs :redsmile:

More on the Ateneo Chamber singers:

The Ateneo Chamber Singers (ACS) is the official choir of the Church of the Gesu thats being built in the campus of the Ateneo de Manila University. It's plan is to eventually concentrate on sacred music of various period and styles. The group is being handled by Jonathan Velasco, and is composed of the alumni of the Ateneo College Glee Club, mainly from the batch that toured last year and in the year 2000. Watch out for the inagural concert sometime in July, in conjuction with the opening of the Church of the Gesu and St. Ignatius' feastday as well.

I was listening to the rehearsal recording of the most recent winter session of the World Youth Choir. As it was being handled by JoNathan Velasco, they naturally had a fair selection of Filipino pieces and arrangements:

A Questa Me (Ryan Caybyab)
Sanctus/Agnus Dei (Ryan Cayabyab)
Tinig ng Lupa (Ruben Federizon)
Ilay Gandangan (Rodolfo Delarmente)
Caturog na Nonoy (arr. George Hernandez)
Mmmbop (Madz arrangement - di ko alam kung sino e :mconfused:)
Circle of Life (arr. Anna Abeleda)
No Importa la Distancia (arr. John Pamintuan)
Paraiso (arr. JC Merino)

I think I missed out an item, but I can't remember :bonkself:
Well, listening to them sort weirded me out. I know it was suppose to sound like that, but somehow it , well, didn't sound quite "right" :blah: I guess the character and flavor just wasn't there. One can hear immediately the difference.

IBA TALAGA ANG PINOY CHOIR!!! :glee:

See you guys on the 27th of February at CCP!


KAKAINGGIT naman KAYO!!... wait.. im just guessing na kasama ka sa ACS.. shucks... buti pa kayo... kami... meron nga kaming group for the chorale alumni pero nakakamiss yung pagaral ng new pieces... yung mga challenging ones na you weren't able to go thru when you were still part of the group... I really wish you and the ACS all the best... do tell update us on performances by your group...

Another thing ... so tuloy na yung Feb 27 concert? ... holy cow... where do we get tickets?!?!?!?!?!?!

Monteverdi
Jan 23, 2002, 09:14 PM
JohnnyBBad:

Kamusta? I havent seen you yet since you came back...

Nasa akin pa pala yung One mo...i'll just give it to Cris when I come visit him...or when he comes and visits me...

Meron nga palang bagong album si Ryan...yung Another One.. it of course includes his a cappella arrangements of Paraiso, Coconut Nut, Kailan, and Nais ko among other....syempre sya lang ulit mag-isa kumanta...mura lang at ok naman

yun lang balita sa masa! kitakits!

chOirbOy`
Jan 24, 2002, 06:33 AM
MONTEVERDI:

i recently read your post sa amazon about the vivaldi album and i cant help but agree to your point that it was a "valedictory" recording for Gardiner and his forces, and that it was done in a more "monastic" fashion; a more spiritual approach, atypical for him especially in the Dixit Dominus. Remember me saying how much i did not 'like' his 1978 recording of the same work? The appeareance of this disc is much appreciated this time after his Bach Cantata Pilgrimage did not score well with critics and concert-goers alike, and this reinstates him as a true genius.

and this genius is one of the driving forces why i'm gonna get full time into music, starting with training in 'you-know-where'.



JohnnyBBad:

exclusive ba to ATENEO alumni ang ACS? anong mga scores ang ina aral nila(nyo) now?


RE: 3 countertenors in concert!

Mark Carpio, Eudy Palaruan and Chris Borela, three countertenors, will have a special CCP concert on March. Expect heavy vocal fireworks from these three great specialist singers. something you guys should not miss!!!

JohnnyBBad
Jan 24, 2002, 06:58 AM
Choirboy: Hmmmm, since the ACS decided to focus on sacred music, out lahat yung mga balak kantahing Shönberg, Lauridesen, etc. Hindi ko pa alam ang new proposed rep

Monteverdi: Oks lang po yon. Enjoy mo na lang muna in the meantime. Musta ka na?

Bocelli: Thanks for the good luck. As for the Best of the Best, malamang sa CCP box office yung tkts <---- meaning ewan kung kailan ilalabas :o

Monteverdi
Jan 25, 2002, 01:36 AM
Choirboy

Nasan ka ba? Bakit wala atang cellphone ang sim mo? :)

Been trying to call your house pero wala namang sumasagot... tuluyang nag missionary ka na ba??

Baka maging elf ka lola! Tawagan mo ko asap! hahahah :D

PolOshOsh
Jan 25, 2002, 02:17 AM
Originally posted by GadoGado


this will be the first time, the new batch of acgc will be heard by the small choral community of the philippines

nakakakaba naman ito, considering na the new ACGC will probably the underdog of the feb27 concert. actually, the new ACGC is of course totally different from the Grand Prix ACGC, rest assured, sir montet is doing the best to come up with a world-class glee club. different style sila ni sir joel (btw, bday ni sir joel ngayon) pero considering na roughly 75% of the current Glee Club's population eh puro freshmen (or trainees) maganda ang tunog and also take note that the ACGC started rehearsing with Sir Montet mga around September na (or probably last few weeks of August). and now, members are purely ateneans, antabayanan niyo na lang ang new batch of ACGC!!!

ingats to all...

chOirbOy`
Jan 25, 2002, 08:21 AM
MONTEVERDI:

nag punta ako ng isang remote part ng aking provence and kalokah!! wala signal ang aking mobile dunh. went home mga 8PM na kagabi, tama namang online din si mama johnnyBbad at nagka chat kami ulit sa IRC.

missionary?! wiz pa munah, training pa aketch sa u-knw-wer diba? as with that elf thingie, i finally resolved na sa pelikula at libro lang nabubuhay si Legolas Greenleaf (haay, lyf!) so niligpit ko na din yung altar for him that i put up dito sa room koh, pero cympre, *** pa rin ang wallpaper ng PC koh!

kelan ba punta mo dito dush? cinderella na naman ang papel ko dito sa aming balay at heto nga, kaka tapos ko lang gawin ang sang damukal na origami na school project ng bro ko. kainis nga eh, ang papel ba naman na binili eh yung medyo matigas na craft paper, so ito, namamaga na naman ang dulo ng aking 'dainty' fingers ekk...

btw, nakita mo na ba sa net *** CD ng latest komisyon ng academy of ancient music kay john tavener? eclipse yata ang theme, si patrizia rosario (the sop from the eternity's sunrise) ang songer ulit - 4got ko lang kung sinong choir.

tapos, pag punta mo dito, dont 4get the 1812 ha.


JOHNNYbBAD:

lohlah! buti na lang at na-amoy ko na nandun ka sa channel na yun. eh bakit naman di ka na bumalik after mo mag DC? wait pa naman me for u...
:(

kender_kin
Jan 31, 2002, 09:49 PM
yipee!...i'll be watching Dawani III tonight. :lovesigh:

Monteverdi
Feb 1, 2002, 12:31 AM
JOHNNYbBAD...

akala ko pa naman kakanta ka mamaya... :(

chOirbOy`
Feb 1, 2002, 09:43 PM
JOHNNYbBAD:

ei! finally, a face to go with the name... pero kailangan ba bang tumili ka nung nagpa kilala ako sa 'yo?!;) sana magkita ulit tayo soon lolah, and i hope by that time eh naka upo ka na on stage!! keep it up ha!! wag tumulad sa ibang nag train for awhile then biglang maglalaho...(sino kaya 'yun?! hehehe..)

MONTEVERDI:

tnx for being a strong shoulder to lean on.

Boccelli
Feb 7, 2002, 07:42 PM
Hi All..

Concert!!!...

The De La Salle University Chorale Alumni
DLSU Main Chapel
February 8, 2002 (TOMORROW)
7:30PM

Most Important of All.. its for FREE....

Just text ur names to this number so that you can be included in the guest list....

++63 917 538 1250

Thanks!!! Hope to see you there!!!

Monteverdi
Feb 12, 2002, 01:05 AM
hey boccelli...

congrats sa concert nyo...really you did well and for just nine people with so little opportunity to prepare, you guys sounded beautiful together...as i was saying to some friends, it's the best choral sound i've heard in many, many months!

nice work talaga with soon ah will be done and the madrigals!

again, congrats! kailan uli???

Boccelli
Feb 12, 2002, 02:09 AM
Monteverdi thanks again for the support... sa Feb 27 na ang susunod na magandang concert... sana maganda ang performances na lahat!... minor pa-istaran lang ang mangyayari pero friends pa rin.. :) it's understandable.. :) i hope we hear new pieces from the choirs... wala ba talagang kakanta ng Darthulas Grabesgesange ni Brahms... :( sana naaral ng UPSA and it would be great kung makaka kanta sila ng either Darthulas or Abendestandten(**** mali spelling ko).. to show everybody their "Brahms" side... di kasi kami nakapunta to watch them in Wernigrode eh.. :(

Again Good Luck sa Lahat... :) MALAPIT NA... YEHEY!!!!

Boccelli
Feb 12, 2002, 02:14 AM
Monteverdi thanks again for the support... sa Feb 27 na ang susunod na magandang concert... sana maganda ang performances na lahat!... minor pa-istaran lang ang mangyayari pero friends pa rin.. :) it's understandable.. :) i hope we hear new pieces from the choirs... wala ba talagang kakanta ng Darthulas Grabesgesange ni Brahms... :( sana naaral ng UPSA and it would be great kung makaka kanta sila ng either Darthulas or Abendestandten(**** mali spelling ko).. to show everybody their "Brahms" side... di kasi kami nakapunta to watch them in Wernigrode eh.. :(

Again Good Luck sa Lahat... :) MALAPIT NA... YEHEY!!!!

Jerusalem
Feb 13, 2002, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by Boccelli
Monteverdi thanks again for the support... sa Feb 27 na ang susunod na magandang concert... sana maganda ang performances na lahat!... minor pa-istaran lang ang mangyayari pero friends pa rin.. :) it's understandable.. :) i hope we hear new pieces from the choirs... wala ba talagang kakanta ng Darthulas Grabesgesange ni Brahms... :( sana naaral ng UPSA and it would be great kung makaka kanta sila ng either Darthulas or Abendestandten(**** mali spelling ko).. to show everybody their "Brahms" side... di kasi kami nakapunta to watch them in Wernigrode eh.. :(

Again Good Luck sa Lahat... :) MALAPIT NA... YEHEY!!!!

From a VERY RELIABLE source, I've heard that UPSA cannot sing new or rarely sung pieces that they want because some "organizers" are blocking their suggestions and instead, want them to sing the usual "oldies." Obviously, not all the participating choirs have the liberty of choosing their pieces. Worse, the "organizers" who call the shots seem to be allergic to new, exciting pieces but want to stick to the "usual stuff." Internal politics, perhaps?

Boccelli
Feb 13, 2002, 09:17 PM
Jerusalem
thanks for the info... i hope this is not true.. pero since reliable source.. malamang.. pero ang pag-asa na lang natin ay ang Madz... sana they sing new pieces... pati na siguro ang ACGC may mga bagong pieces na pinaaral ni Sir Montet. To the UST Singers... hi... pwede niyong kantahin yung O Magnum Mysterium ni Lauridsen... pretty please... please... please..... mamatay na ako pag hindi ko narinig na kinanta niyo siya... pa hi na rin kay Sir Fidel... Sa UE Chorale... sana kantahin niyo ulit yung Hodie Christus Natus Est ni Poulenc... i liked ur performance nung nag Tower One series kayo... nagulat ako ng lubusan sa repertoire niyo.. :) Gusto ko rin kasi yung Ave Maria Rachmaninov eh.. :)

Sana may kumanta na ng Arvo Part na Magnificat... ang tagal ko na kasing inaabangan na may kumanta(ulit?!) ng song na ito sa Pilipinas... bagay sana siya sa ACGC Batch 2000... anyhoo.. kita kits tayong lahat sa Feb 27 ha.... :) **** EXCITED NA TALAGA AKO!!!

Z*E*U*S
Feb 13, 2002, 10:11 PM
who will be the last to perform? may bunutan bang nangyari? sana maganda lang talaga ang mga kakantahin ha...

bOnnie_piNk
Feb 14, 2002, 07:38 AM
who will be the last to perform? may bunutan bang nangyari? sana maganda lang talaga ang mga kakantahin ha...

i think the concert will be organized in an alphabetical order. ang alam ko (pretty sure), the first performance will be from the ACGC

ticket price:
P200, P300 and P500

JohnnyBBad
Feb 14, 2002, 09:44 AM
Lots were drawn as to whom sings when. The Glee Club the the first, and the Madz last. I'm not too sure how the rest are ordered, though ':cool'

The Madz are singing the following pieces:

Our Father - Jing Pilapil arr. by Anna Abeleda
Daemon irrepit callidus - Gyorgi Orban
Water Night - Eric Whitacre
Paru-parong Bukid - arr. Robin Estrada

An interesting note for that night's concert: at least three choirs are singing an Eastern European piece. Talk about upgrading the repertoire! ':D'

See ya folks on the 27th!

JohnnyBBad
Feb 14, 2002, 09:45 AM
Lots were drawn as to whom sings when. The Glee Club the the first, and the Madz last. I'm not too sure how the rest are ordered, though ':cool'

The Madz are singing the following pieces:

Our Father - Jing Pilapil arr. by Anna Abeleda
Daemon irrepit callidus - Gyorgi Orban
Water Night - Eric Whitacre
Paru-parong Bukid - arr. Robin Estrada

An interesting note for that night's concert: at least three choirs are singing an Eastern European piece. Talk about upgrading the repertoire! ':D'

See ya folks on the 27th!

P.S. The Glee Club is selling tickets for the 27th at 50% off yata, Just ask them for the details

bOnnie_piNk
Feb 14, 2002, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by JohnnyBBad
Lots were drawn as to whom sings when. The Glee Club the first, and the Madz last. I'm not too sure how the rest are ordered, though ':cool:'

hmm... okei, thanks sa info, di ko alam na draw lots pala ang ginawa, sori :enlightened:

JohnnyBBad, may kilala ka bang Chris Ong? pansin ko lang, wala na siya sa ACGC. may rumour akong narinig na nasa Madrigals na siya. totoo ba yon?

Boccelli
Feb 14, 2002, 11:20 PM
Hi all..

Hey JohnnyBBad... i believe i have heard Octavio Paz/Eric Whitacre's "Water Night" ... its a very soulful piece... the group i heard this song from is the Bringham Young Singers from Wisconsin... they seem to be a very good group... good discipline and technical capabilities...

I forgot the order of choirs... all i know is ACGC comes first and then last two would be the DLSU Chorale then the Madz...

Interesting info you mentioned about choirs singing three Eastern European pieces... what about ACGC.. what are they performing?

Im sooo excited... are the choirs singing one common piece?

Monteverdi
Feb 14, 2002, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by bOnnie_piNk


hmm... okei, thanks sa info, di ko alam na draw lots pala ang ginawa, sori :enlightened:

JohnnyBBad, may kilala ka bang Chris Ong? pansin ko lang, wala na siya sa ACGC. may rumour akong narinig na nasa Madrigals na siya. totoo ba yon?

hELLO!

Chris is not with the ACGC anymore, though he is still very much with the Ateneo Chamber Singers...I know because he's a very good friend, at hindi siya nagsusulat dito...

ACGC, meanwhile, gets to be the first to sing sa festival kasi wala si Sir Montet nung nagbunutan ang mga choirmasters....eh nalagay sila sa simula! :) May nakabunot ng number 1, pero since wala si Sir Montet...

Oh...watch out for a new ethnic work from a composer whose two pieces are a staple in filipino choral repertoire...

bOnnie_piNk
Feb 15, 2002, 06:29 AM
Originally posted by Monteverdi
Chris is not with the ACGC anymore, though he is still very much with the Ateneo Chamber Singers...I know because he's a very good friend, at hindi siya nagsusulat dito...

ACGC, meanwhile, gets to be the first to sing sa festival kasi wala si Sir Montet nung nagbunutan ang mga choirmasters....eh nalagay sila sa simula! :) May nakabunot ng number 1, pero since wala si Sir Montet...


alam ba yon ng ACGC? :glee: masabihan nga ang choirmembers.

thanks for d update on Chris. nakakagulat kasi, bigla nalang siyang hindi pumupunta sa rehearsals. it's good to know that he's already a part of the ACS, though it's a bit sad, we won't see him more often. sobrang enjoy siyang kasama sa chorale

eeyan
Feb 15, 2002, 08:16 AM
i wonder what my three favorite choirs will sing on that show? ateneo, madz and ust? news naman.

North_Halsted
Feb 15, 2002, 08:25 PM
kamusta to all? its been a while since i posted. what's this i see about a grand choral concert? i wish i was there to watch. well, i wish all the choirs the best. i hope there won't be issues during the concert. just great performances. does anybody know what the UST Singers and the DLSU Choir are singing? I have been dying to watch these two groups for ages. I heard the DLSU group is going to the US... any info on where here? I know the UST Singers are bound for North America towards the end of the year so Im really looking forward to that. :)

By the way, that's a good program for the Madz, I'm just not sure how they will be interpreting Whitacre's piece. I agree with Boccelli on the beauty of the song.. its a la Lauridsen but less relaxing.. ;) i have heard the BYU Singers sing the song live so I know what you are talking about. I was in Milwaukee one time and they were there for a performance. :) They are a very good group.

I think i'm getting too overwhelmed with my post. i'll just shut up now!

p.s. if anyone has the Timor et tremor piece by Poulenc, i am in dire need of it.. :)

Monteverdi
Feb 16, 2002, 02:25 AM
p.s. if anyone has the Timor et tremor piece by Poulenc, i am in dire need of it.. :) [/QUOTE]

how do I send it to you? hmmm....just scan it and email it to you as an attachment?

JohnnyBBad
Feb 17, 2002, 08:20 AM
It seems that Whitacre's music a favorite concert/competition repertoire for American choirs. But I beg to disagree that it's like Lauridsen's music. Unlike Whitacre, Lauridsen only lightly uses dissonnances, while Whitacre seems to have a fondness for clusters all over his pieces....

Bonnie Pink: Asus, Chris Ong gave up his post as assistant conductor of the Glee Club after the Christmas season pa. He made a clean break with the Glee Club, and the execom accepted his resignation (by the way, most of the Glee Club execom are also in ACS). Chris has been a stalwart of the ACS na ever since it was convened last year, and is the assitant conductor of the group right now. Chris in the Madz? What do you think, Chris? :wow: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ACS: joke lang po! luv you guys! :yum:

I know Choirmaster will kill me for doing this, but I'd like to announce that may concert ang san miguel master chorale at AILM tomorrow, Sunday. No one should miss this stupendous choir!

North_Halsted
Feb 18, 2002, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by Monteverdi
p.s. if anyone has the Timor et tremor piece by Poulenc, i am in dire need of it.. :)

how do I send it to you? hmmm....just scan it and email it to you as an attachment? [/QUOTE]

i pasted my email address on my profile. just drop me the scanned pieces thru there. thanks. i really appreciate it!

JohnnyBBad
Feb 19, 2002, 01:17 AM
Got this info from a freind's email today regarding the proposed repertoire for the concert on the 27th:

Madz: Our Father (arr. Anna Abeleda), Daemon Irrepit Callidus (Orban), Water Night, Paru-parong Bukid (arr. Robin Estrada)

ACGC: Gloria Patri (Palestrina), Las! Je neus'se ja mais pense (Costeley), All Creatures Now (Bennet), Tarde Ultima y Serena (Karai), Aba Ginoong Maria (Reyes)

DLSU: Ave Maria (Biebl), Ama Namin (Delarmente), Ang Boyfriend Kong Bading (Delarmente), When You Believe

PNU: Kyrie (Cayabyab), Pamugun (Feliciano), Hanggang sa Muli (Ortiz, Gallardo, arr. Cayabyab)

PWU: O Jesu mi dulcissime (Donostia), Go Down Moses (arr. Delgado), And So It Goes (arr. Chilcott), Anak (arr. Delgado)

UE: The Lamb, Sanctus (Geonyong Lee), Galawgaw

UPSA: Eli, Eli (Bardos), Rosas Pandan, The Prayer (arr. Manguiat, de Guzman), Deu Vos Guard (R. Noguera)

UST: Stabat Mater (Barkauskas), Miniwanka (Schafer), Pilipinas Kong Mahal (arr. Calalang)

Common pieces for all the choirs to sing together: Gaudeamus igitur (yung totoo, hindi yung funny), Isang Dugo Isang Lahi Isang Musika, Prayer of St. Francis arr. Delgado

I finally watched the San Miguel Master Chorale at their concert for family and friends. The thing that struck me most was the chameleon-like ability to change vocal weight and color to suit the stylic requirements of each piece. Coupled with very musical shaping of phrases, this was a choral treat you don't get to see (and listen) often here in the Philippines. Congratulations to Choirmother and all the MC people lurking in these pages!

M_Lover
Feb 20, 2002, 06:01 AM
Yes I agree. It was fantastic. Malas lang yung mga nasa likod. The sound they were hearing was not even half as good as that heard by those near the front. It's the acoustics of the place I guess. Great! :D

makaTi_guY
Feb 21, 2002, 04:01 AM
hello to all!!

i've heard some "great" things about this choir that sanmiguel formed from an office mate. too bad i missed that concert.

when will they sing again?

choirmaster
Feb 22, 2002, 05:26 PM
Makati Guy:

Saan ba ang accent ng handle mo? hehehe...

The next appearance of the urban legend... este, the SMMC pala, is at the Las Pinas Bamboo Organ Festival. Repertoire consists of Mozart's Vesperae Solennes de Confessore K. 339, and Cayabyab's Misa 2000, together with the San Miguel Philharmonic Orchestra.The Misa will have its world premiere. Conductors for the 28th Feb are Velasco and Cayabyab, and for the March performance (same program) it will just be Velasco (for both works).

San Miguel Master Chorale and San Miguel Philharmonic Orchestra will also launch their first CD, The Sacred Works of Ryan Cayabyab, during their performance at the festival. The double CD features both groups. Repertoire includes Misa 2000, Te Deum, Misa (the 1983 a capella mass), Aquesta me guiaba, Aba po, Santa Mariang Reyna, and Anima Christi.

choirmaster
Feb 22, 2002, 05:29 PM
Sorry, the other performance date is March 1. Takbo na kayo, kasi paubos na ang tickets. The small church can only hold 250 persons.

Pattie
Feb 22, 2002, 09:42 PM
Magkano naman po ang CD? madami bang stocks kasi baka madami bumili.

zion
Feb 23, 2002, 01:17 AM
Bakit wala ang UP CONCERT CHORUS sa line up sa 27th? Nasa tour ba sila ngayon? Sayang naman at hindi makukumpleto ang recado. Kahit ano pang sabihin ng iba, institusyon pa rin yung choir ni late great Prof. Paguio! (Hinde ako taga-UPCC, ha! Feel ko lang na dapat kasama sila.)

Can anyone out there answer moi? Bakit wala ang UPCC? Vakeeeet?

:(

Pattie
Feb 23, 2002, 01:41 AM
Oo nga. Bakit wala ang UPCC?!?!?! :(

Z*E*U*S
Feb 26, 2002, 01:56 AM
VAHKKKKKKKEEEEEEET NGA BA?

zion
Feb 26, 2002, 08:34 AM
basta ako, sa 27th, ill judge a choir by the sound it produces and not whether it has a new repertoire or not. dapat naman talaga ganun di ba mga kapatid? see you all sa ccp! :D

johnvianney
Feb 26, 2002, 06:57 PM
To all my kababayan & Pinoy Music Lovers,
In case you have not heard yet...former Madz members, III OF A KIND bagged 2002 Bay Area's Harmony Sweepstakes Acappella Champions here in San Francisco last Feb 23. They bested the other nine groups whose size ranged from 4-7 singers. Sila lang ang tatlo..so of course..that was a hard feat to match..Sans mind- blowing vocal percussion and all the hip-hop funk and rap typical of contermporary Acappella.. III simply overcome these limitations by their sheer display of talent, vocal and emotional intensity w/c only Edward Grandadosin, Gelo Francisco and Annie Nepomuceno could skillfully muster...Congratulations to III OF A KIND... They will back to compete and represent as Bay Area Champions on the National Level Competition on May 04..So punta na kayo dito sa San Francisco...and witness how the PINOY talent is again creating waves in the Acappella scene here..

Boccelli
Feb 26, 2002, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by johnvianney
To all my kababayan & Pinoy Music Lovers,
In case you have not heard yet...former Madz members, III OF A KIND bagged 2002 Bay Area's Harmony Sweepstakes Acappella Champions here in San Francisco last Feb 23. They bested the other nine groups whose size ranged from 4-7 singers. Sila lang ang tatlo..so of course..that was a hard feat to match..Sans mind- blowing vocal percussion and all the hip-hop funk and rap typical of contermporary Acappella.. III simply overcome these limitations by their sheer display of talent, vocal and emotional intensity w/c only Edward Grandadosin, Gelo Francisco and Annie Nepomuceno could skillfully muster...Congratulations to III OF A KIND... They will back to compete and represent as Bay Area Champions on the National Level Competition on May 04..So punta na kayo dito sa San Francisco...and witness how the PINOY talent is again creating waves in the Acappella scene here..

Great news johnvianney... glad to hear a group of immense talent is also making waves abroad... hoping for their success come Nationals...

by the way... isang tulog na lang... isa nanamang gabi ng musika ang ating mararanasan...

sana yearly na ito.. para masaya.. :) tapos... next year, aral ang lahat ng bagong piece... tapos si choirmother ang magcoconduct.. :)

sino nga pala ang magcoconduct bukas ng choirs(for the joint performances)... si choirmother ba?

good luck sa mga choristers.. :) ingat kayong lahat..

JohnnyBBad
Feb 26, 2002, 09:22 PM
I would put STYLE and INTERPRETATION, and VARIED, WELL-BALANCED PROGRAMMING above it all. The top choirs here in the Philippines almost always produces a generally beautiful sound, so I feel that judging a choir solely based on its sound is redundant, don't you think?

Monteverdi
Feb 27, 2002, 12:20 AM
Bocelli,

Si Sir Mark Carpio ang dinig kong magiging Festival Choir Conductor...

Johnnybbad,

Correct...

sort of old debate ba?

Cheers to all tom! Got my ticket na din sa wakas!

Im worried lang dahil i dont think maganda acoustics ng CCP main theater...at least for choral music....

the last time I was there...di na ko bumalik sa second half ng performance nung choir na pinanonood ko...kasi ang labo ng tunog...

Monteverdi
Feb 27, 2002, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by JohnnyBBad
I would put STYLE and INTERPRETATION, and VARIED, WELL-BALANCED PROGRAMMING above it all. The top choirs here in the Philippines almost always produces a generally beautiful sound, so I feel that judging a choir solely based on its sound is redundant, don't you think?

Hey! I watched rehearsals at the CCP yesterday... you know I have got to get used to seeing you sit with the other guys! :)

Ganda nung waternight...I loved the bass sound that was conjured during the rehearsals...

Yung paru-parong bukid ang ganda ng effects na ginagawa ng s1...para syang, well, para kang nasa butterfly garden... hehehe.... pero yung S1 nyo... I noticed sir mark make a comment on this towards the end of rehearsals...

As I sat through rehearsals I really noticed that many choirs were having a difficult time with the acoustics of the place...it's dead! walang sufficient reverberation...

oh well, goodluck na lang sa lahat...

PolOshOsh
Feb 28, 2002, 09:50 AM
congrats to all choirs who participated sa CCP Festival!

kudos to la salle....and of course to my ACGC!!! hehehe...am so happy for ACGC!!! may isang choir na medyo na sea sick ako nung pinapanood ko sila!!! hay...hanggang ngayon pa...

congrats to all again...sana next year ulit...

Boccelli
Feb 28, 2002, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by Monteverdi


Hey! I watched rehearsals at the CCP yesterday... you know I have got to get used to seeing you sit with the other guys! :)

Ganda nung waternight...I loved the bass sound that was conjured during the rehearsals...

Yung paru-parong bukid ang ganda ng effects na ginagawa ng s1...para syang, well, para kang nasa butterfly garden... hehehe.... pero yung S1 nyo... I noticed sir mark make a comment on this towards the end of rehearsals...

As I sat through rehearsals I really noticed that many choirs were having a difficult time with the acoustics of the place...it's dead! walang sufficient reverberation...

oh well, goodluck na lang sa lahat...

Hey you.. pareho pala tayo ng na notice sa Water Night... galing nung base line no? nakakakilabot... bow ako sa kabit ng sound nang Madz for the song... galing galing...

I'll just wait for the posts regarding the concert last night ... :)
Congrats to all!

Monteverdi
Feb 28, 2002, 10:44 PM
Boccelli:

Yes, I guess kahit medyo pagod na ako when the MADZ appeared talagang matindi ang tama sa akin ng Water Night...

Johnnybbad...

Lola ang make up mo kakaiba! hahaha :) Talagang isa ako sa nag cheer when you came up the stage with the MADZ...


I wanted to write so many things, and "speak out your mind" kind of thing...kaya lang dibalenalang....usap usap na lang tayo mga peeps...

Pero grabe UST ha...nataob nila yung dryness ng main theater! Talaga sila ang pinaka vocally gifted group of singers we have! As in in you face and fortissimo nila na umikot yung sound, kahit walang reverb sa hall...na envelope ba ang audience? Cheers!

Sino yung nakaka "sea sick" na choir? PolOshOsh, tama ba yung interpretation ko sa sinabi mo kaya??

Genius101
Feb 28, 2002, 10:52 PM
I was very impressed with all the choirs that performed last night. I am so happy that there are so many really good choirs in the country right now that deserve our appreciation, pride and respect.

Nakakatawa lang, nakikita pala ako nung friends ko nung Prayer of St. Francis at nahuli nila na mali-mali ang actions ko.... hehehe... anyway, I would sure love to see the whole concert on video or listen to it on CD. Kung mag-issue sila ng CD I'm really going to buy it.

PNU was impressive, compared to the last time I heard them(which was a long time ago anyway, I guess). Ateneo was also good considering they had mostly new members and had barely 5 months to train. UST really brought the house down with their repertoire. Sabi ko nga they were like a grand choir by themselves. :) I didn't get to see much of the others, though.

One thing I noticed though... towards the end of the DLSU Chorale's performance someone dropped a tuning fork... was it by accident or on purpose? :winky:

twisted2
Mar 1, 2002, 12:54 AM
grabe lang!

all the participants last night were good, but i have my own list of favorites:

La Salle was good and humorous. Nakakatuwa yung kanta nila for the homo's, as in sobrang tawanan yung mga bading na nasa harapan ko kagabi. I was a bit uncomfy with the tune of Ama Namin, siguro di lang talaga ako sana'y na maging ganun ang isang prayer - pero the Song from the Prince of Egypt was good - pero medyo tabon nga lang yung Duet. galeng galeng!

PNU should be commended for their good showing last night - they proved that theyre worthy to be in that concert. Their rendition of pamugun was one of the cleanest and one of best intrepretation i heard.

And the star of the night - The UST Singers who brought the house down for their perfect selection of songs/repertiore. Hindi talaga ako na-bore dahil sobrang galing at interesting ng mga kinanta nila. Stabat Mater (with only-roughly 24 members singing) na parang gigibain ang CCP - and the "....water, water..." thing na kaloka talaga! what's the title of the song again? Kung di lang talaga nakakahiyang umiyak nung na-dala ako sa Nationalistic Medly nila eh ginawa ko na! very touching! Bow ako sa inyo!

Waterloos:

I was kind of disappointed with the performance of some choirs. :(
Pero its really much worth seeing. grabe lanG!

PolOshOsh
Mar 1, 2002, 01:10 AM
anyway...kudos to all filipino choirs...magtour na lang lahat...sabay-sabay...para isang engradeng choir...tignan natin kung hindi pa mapanalunan yung Grand Prix...

PNU is the one who rendered Pamugun right!?! galing nila...

ano pa ba ang reactions nyo?!? ... i guess magiging active na naman tong thread na to for the next few weeks...hehehe...i saw choirmaster pala last night...

"choirmaster" ano po ang mga reactions niyo...
thanks...ingat...

SiriusB
Mar 1, 2002, 02:29 AM
i wish they would make samu't sari an annual event..it's great to know that such a small country as ours can create several choral groups of international quality..and to think that those who performed last night were just the one's that are in manila and university based...hanep.

i've renewed my fanaticism with the UST Singers, they definitely shook the main theater and could burned it to the ground with their repertoire ..pansin ko lang medyo maindak ang ibang singers nila..pero ok lang.. ;) talk about intensity..

UPSA also tops my list..loved the way they blended..and the sound was distinctly homogenous..(tama ba?) their presence in this year's European Grand Prix will certainly be felt..

the PNU Chorale was an eye ( or ear ) opener for me..husay din nila..I wonder why i've never heard of them competing internationally..they rendered PAMUGUN exceptionally well..for my taste

kudos to ACGC also for coming up with a fine performance considering that more than half of the group ( as i've heard ) were newbies..

but actually, there is little space for comparison among the groups..each has it's own unique attack and performance style e..ang galing talaga lahat..

sayang di pwedeng encore kagabi..hehehe

Pattie
Mar 1, 2002, 02:44 AM
Hay grabe! as usual, napakaganda at napakagaling ng UST Singers! Winner talaga and Stabat Mater at Miniwanka! Sana kayo na lang ang pang closing ng first part. Basta ang galing talaga lahat ng choirs last nyt especialy the UST Singers! Kudos also to Madz na palaging maybagong gimik! Galing din ng Waternight! hayy. . sana may lumabas na cd. :)

pyket
Mar 1, 2002, 09:18 AM
tanong lang po:

BAKIT MADZ LANG AT ACGC YUNG NAGBENTA NG CDs??

shempre nag-hu-hunting ako kagabi, but no, mayroon na ako ng ACGC CDs so binili ko na lang yung A Life Shaped By Music ng Madz.

BAHKET SILA LANG???


ganda ni Ate Anna (double ba yon?)!!! Galing ng tunog ng UE considering isa sila sa pinakabatang university choir. Winner Galawgaw movements!!! BENTA!!! :D

hindi na lang ako mangcha-chaka... baka may magalit pa. :bungi:

choirmaster
Mar 1, 2002, 07:31 PM
No comment. hehehehe.... I still value my life. chinky...

But thanks to all the choirs who featured new songs in their repertoire. New as in bagong arranged, and new as in 20th century ekk. Medyo kailangan lang natin ng konti pang audience development... did you hear the murmurs rise at some point during Miniwanka? Na-windang siguro sila... parang, like, is that sound HUMANLY possible? hehehe...

Mga kapatid, tambakan natin sila ng ka-weirdohan sa mga susunod nating mga concerts, para masanay na ang mga tenga nila.

Konting advertisement:

Philippine Chamber Choir is having a concert on March 23 at the Philamlife. Tix available sa AILM, 7228577. Repertoire is Quatre Motets pour le temp de Penitence ni pareng Poulenc, Quatre Motets sur des theme Gregoriens ni pareng Durufle, Rose Complete at Dirait-on ni pareng Lauridsen, Pananambitan ni MARENG Roberta Flack, Ang aking Bayan ni pareng Ed Nep, at kung anetch-anetch pa. Goes kayo ha?

Sad news:

Hindi umabot ang production ng CD ng San Miguel Philharmonic at Master Chorale in time for Bamboo Organ performances dahil may chakang nangyari sa jacket, medyo na crop-off ang isang logo or something. Pero they are accepting advance orders pag nanood kayo today, March 1. See you there!

Z*E*U*S
Mar 1, 2002, 08:38 PM
poloshosh, ingat ka hiija baka magstart ng carnon monoxide dito yang mga statement of acounts mo. dalawang choir and kumanta tungkol sa tubig na pwede mong ika sea-sick, diva?

hija, depende talaga sa singer yan, kung feel nya yung ganun at yung ang paraan para makabwelo siya then go-cart ang choreography nya. ikaw nga nung pinapanood kita eh gumagalaw ka din ng di mo nalalaman eh, at ang super-Facial expression greeting cards mo, diyosa!

Z*E*U*S
Mar 1, 2002, 08:41 PM
..aatakihin talaga ako sa puso - o kaloka lang talaga yung kinanta ng ust na Miniwanka! at naging trend ang pagkanta ng mga kanta about waters - the waternight of madz and miniwanka of ust.
definitely, the voice prowess of the singers really masked the whole auditorium where the audience felt the eerie breeze that touched everybody's skin, ironically - mas malakas pa yata yung kanta nila kesa dun sa grand choir chinky. at ang effect na may-i-get the tuning forks- intimidated ang beauty ko dun! and with the stabat mater dorosalinda alicia betty lafea-i saw the head of some audience following the super bilis na rythm part ng song.
yung namang mga alagad ni madam modelo ay nagapakita din ng kakaibang galing, ba't kaya di sila lumalaban outside the pinas? patok ang beauty nila lalo na sa tours at arrezo pagnagkataon. malilinis at fresh ang mga bata, yoko lang ng wall-paper na costume ha! next time ibahin! biro lamang! the pamugun was really impressive - much better than a famous interpretation of some.
with all honesty - i like the sound of ateneo considering they're starting from ruins. siguro ay dinugo and lola ramona sevilla hano to come up with that fine sound. keep up the good work mga anak. the aba ginoo was the launching diva?
upsa did show how a competing choir for the egp should be like..... :)
nakakatawa yung prayer of st. francis - talaga may-i-invent-the-hand-signs and drama ng mga lola nyo sa riser. iba iba yata kayo ng mga choregraphy, pero di naman eye sore.

tama ang sabi ni choirmama na maging mature ang mga audience natin, nakaka-inis talaga yung mga reaksyens nung ibang mga utaw. salamat sa inyong mga grupo na nagbibigay ng bagong lasa sa senaryo ng korong-musiksa sa pinas! haaaaaaay - nadala ako sa pilipinas kong mahal medly - its corny but i have revived my patriotism and loyalty kahit papaano.

yun lang ang aking mala-montiverdi na comments! next time ulit mga grandmas!

Jerusalem
Mar 1, 2002, 08:55 PM
First of all, CONGRATULATIONS to ALL the choirs at the CCP two nights ago! Goes to show that we really are a nation of gifted performers.

Here is my two cents worth.

When it comes to showcasing vocal acrobatics, the UST Singers definitely had it that night. Judging by the mere selection of their songs and the way it was sung with so much gusto, these determined singers were out to prove that they have what it takes to grab the audience's attention. It's like, "Hey, watch us! We're great, aren't we?".

But the most moving songs came from UPSA's The Prayer, La Salle's When You Believe, and PNU's Hanggang sa Muli. PNU's Pamugun was exceptional.

La Salle and UPSA also had the most homogenous sound that night. In some European competitions, homogeneity in sound counts more than flamboyant interpretations (with the exception of Cantonigros, where "passionate singing" is valued). With continued practice, UPSA has a good chance at the EGP this year. And maybe it's time for De La Salle to compete again abroad.

UE Chorale is very promising. Their Galawgaw clearly broke the seriousness of UST's repertoire. A welcome breather I should say, and a delight as well.

PWU Chorale was also good. Their repertoire has appropriately showcased the separate strengths of its male and female singers.

The Madz, of course, were a class of their own--still the quintessential Filipino choir. Their Water Night was amazing, probably the best "non-mainstream" piece that night.

As for the Ateneo Glee Club, it should be commended for the courage and verve that it's members have shown on stage, considering that this is a new batch.

Again, PRAISES TO ALL.

PolOshOsh
Mar 1, 2002, 10:50 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by pyket
tanong lang po:

BAKIT MADZ LANG AT ACGC YUNG NAGBENTA NG CDs??

alam ko nagbenta ang UST? may nakita akong guy na may dala-dalang CD ng ust. basta yung may we are an offering na CD. probably this is their most recent one.

CHELow
Mar 2, 2002, 12:01 AM
EY.....hope next time therell be an interactionEKK session naman for all the participating choirs!:) I think that would be a great idea!In europe, their best choirs compete against each other but here in this country we support each other.....Dont you think that would be good for our country?It will show the world that Filipinos can unite! AS IN......MANGINIG KAYO PINOY KAMI!!!DAANG! that would be great!CONGRATULATIONS SA ATING LAHAT!!!!!!!!!!

Tebaldi
Mar 2, 2002, 01:35 AM
Congrats to all!
Funny lang sa write-up na PWU sa souvenir program.
"Robert Delgado, an alumna of the Philippine Madrigal Singers..."
Pero baka naman sinadya:)

spicnspan
Mar 2, 2002, 03:00 AM
i would like to congratulate all the choirs who performed during the festival. gaya ng ng nasabi ng lahat...ang galing talaga ng pinoy...

reactions lang...di ba ang ccp ang isa daw sa may pinakamagandang acoustics dito sa pilipinas?

ue will be worth watching. for me, very light lang ang kanilang repertoire at deserving sila na makasama sa listahan ng mga best.

nagulat ako at tila puro bago talaga ang members ng ateneo. ok din pero syempre hinanap ko yung tunog nila nung homecoming chuva nila last year (tama ba?). di ko kasi alam na talaga pa lang halos wala nang natira.

i agree when said that ust, among all the choirs, possesses the best vocal quality... eh talaga namang dumadagunggong ang ccp sa sobrang lakas ng tunog nila. tila lang parang walang katapusan ang awiting pilipinas kong mahal na parang ikamamatay ko na pag nadagdagan pa ng isa pang bara. nanood nga ako nung homecoming nila... dyusku po, pagkatapos ng intermission eh parang ok na po siguro yun...sulit na po ang bayad. sana lang they can learn how to control their volume, pwede naman yatang suwabe lang eh at di parang galit. kawawa naman ang nasa front row...winner ang nakaupo sa langit.

i specially like water night of the madz. although may madidinig kang ploks and all, iba pa rin ang experience at style nila na tila dumikit na sa tao kahit karamihan sa kanila ay bago. (lahat yata ng tours batch eh wala na...again, i may be wrong). i heard a short file from the original interpretation ng byu(tama ba?)...sa akin, walang pinagkaiba....Kudos to the arranger of paru paru and our father (simple yet...alam nyo na).

tama ang lahat sa pagsabi na sana hindi pa huli ito....thank you sa ccp for making this possible...

last...kahit sinong choir naman pwede yatang magbenta ng cd. hindi lang siguro ang madz lang at acgc ang pinayagan. show naman ito ng lahat ng choirs eh...

galing, puno ang ccp....

pyket
Mar 2, 2002, 09:36 AM
to reiterate my pet-peeve: bakit hindi nagbenta ng CDs and UPSA, UST Singers, DLSU Chorale, atbp? BAAAAAHKET???

at isang pakiusap: can any of the various Filipino choirs tell me where I could buy copies of their CDs? Pasabi na rin yung "worth buying" at hindi. I'm immigrating na to the States (sa NY po) at medyo feel ko choral drought po ako pagdating doon. Broadway fatale naman po kasi yung city. I need CDs to remind me of what I'm "leaving" (as if) back home... please lang talaga. a choral enthusiast's "last wish..." :D :bungi:

JohnnyBBad
Mar 2, 2002, 12:27 PM
Hiya folks!

To quote what Lowla Roberta Flack and I were talking about in the wings while we were listening to the choirs performing: "Saan ka ba makakakita ng WALONG world-class choirs na nakakumpol sa isang city (well, make that NCR!) at magjo-joint concert?!" It makes me proud to know that we Filipinos have raised the standards of the choral art to new levels, competitive, if not at par, with the best choirs in the world.

MABUHAY ANG MGA PILIPINONG CHORISTERS!!! (with matching raise and wave the Philippine flag ala UST Singers! :P)

My random impressions of some of the choirs while listening in the wings...I was really pleasantly surprised with what the new ACGC was able to deliver in the concert. I particularly loved the Karai piece - and very impressed that the "kiddies" were able to tackle fearlessly a piece like that considering the group has barely worked with the conductor for five months or so. With a warm and generous sound (relative to the number and age), this choir is one to look forward to in the future...

Having heard PNU for the first time, I was also delighted with their even and homegenous sound. I was also fascinated hearing another reading of "Pamugun", not having heard the Madz's own. I hope they'd have more high profile concerts in the future. It would be a shame to miss a performance of a high-caliber choir like theirs. :) ...

UST, as always, gave a roof-raising virtuosic performance! Having heard Stabat Mater in their home-comming concert last year, I already knew what to expect. However, their second piece (Miniwanka) almost made me fall off my chair! Stunningly fascinating doesn't even begin to describe what they did to the piece. Grabe lang naman!....

"And So It Goes" of PWU brought back good memories of the Glee Club's Tolosa competition. We also heard a Dutch all-female ensemble do the same song, and I remember how touched we were when they sang it. I love the way how the Sop 1 of the PWU handled the ending phrases in each stanza of that song - dmiminishing almost to nothingness. It made me want to sigh...

Hmmmm...naku, sige na nga, isasama ko na ang isa pang review with this post:

At long last, the San Miguel Orchestra and Chorale made their presence known to the public here in Manila. I caught their performance at the Bamboo Organ Festival just last night (Friday). What can I say? The Mozart Vespere had all the qualities of a very well-realized musical reading: an adherance to the performance practice of a reduced sound, an acute, yet subtle awareness to the agogic accents of the text, a very artistic tapering-off at the end of the phrases, and strict attention to the dynamic markings without calling attention as a feauture unto itself. Truly an examplary lesson in the Mozart style!

As it was the first time I ever heard Ryan Cayabyab's Missa 2000, it struck me as a clear reflection the milieu that Sir Ryan (Cayabyab) is currently immersed in. The composition is a juxtopositon of various styles - varied influences of pop and ethnic, and even reminicent of Strvinsky and Rutter, with the matching cinematic flourishes of the soaring scores of John Williams. In other words, it's a work that very audience-friendly, and easy to digest, effective and working very well in its own genre. The chorus undoubtedly gave a sterling performance of Sir Ryan's work. It was obvious that they had a firm grasp of the music, and the full glory of their sound became truly apparent in the glorious climaxes of the work.

Bravo to the SMC Master Chorale, and may you have more performances to come!

Pattie
Mar 2, 2002, 05:13 PM
kelan na magkakaroon ng Cd ng Misa 2000? update naman jan pls. . . . . :D

zion
Mar 3, 2002, 09:44 AM
Grabe! Ang galing ng mga choirs sa CCP last 27th! Congrats sa lahat!

Pero siyempre, may naka-aangat sa iba, at ito ang mga super cute sa akin, in no particular order, ha!

My faves are MADZ, UE, LA SALLE, UPSA, at PNU!!! Touched talaga ako sa kanta nila! May connect sa audience ang dating nila! These choirs really know how to put a warm and sincere smile on the faces of the listeners. But, of course, may kanya-kanyang forte ang bawat choir. So ok din yung iba.

Side comment lang: turn-off lang ako sa rowdiness ng mga ibang "fans." ok lang magpakita ng support but you dont have to act like you're in a basketball game in Araneta or in a fans club meeting with Juday! Tuloy, kaysa pumalakpak ang mga ka-center aisle ko, I SWEAR they just gave those rowdy fans the stare! Nag-mukhang hard sell tuloy. Remember, freedom of expression is NOT an excuse for inappropriate behavior. Parang kung sa sine, ok lang tumawa, pero iba na ang arteng KULANG SA PANSIN. I'm sure inis tayo sa mga OA mag-react (bato-bato sa langit...). :rolleyes:

Yun lang po.

P.S. I think I'm starting to hear grunts from the "fans" already. oh well... :p

M_Lover
Mar 3, 2002, 08:47 PM
Meron na CD Misa 2000. Double Cd pa nga ata di lang umabot sa Bamboo because of some production kachakahan. Hmm, u haven't been reading the previous posts ni choirmother ha. I heard kasama na pati *** first misa niya.

Super galing ng San Miguel Choir yun lang. :D

?thinker?
Mar 4, 2002, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by zion
Grabe! Ang galing ng mga choirs sa CCP last 27th! Congrats sa lahat!

Pero siyempre, may naka-aangat sa iba, at ito ang mga super cute sa akin, in no particular order, ha!

My faves are MADZ, UE, LA SALLE, UPSA, at PNU!!! Touched talaga ako sa kanta nila! May connect sa audience ang dating nila! These choirs really know how to put a warm and sincere smile on the faces of the listeners. But, of course, may kanya-kanyang forte ang bawat choir. So ok din yung iba.

Side comment lang: turn-off lang ako sa rowdiness ng mga ibang "fans." ok lang magpakita ng support but you dont have to act like you're in a basketball game in Araneta or in a fans club meeting with Juday! Tuloy, kaysa pumalakpak ang mga ka-center aisle ko, I SWEAR they just gave those rowdy fans the stare! Nag-mukhang hard sell tuloy. Remember, freedom of expression is NOT an excuse for inappropriate behavior. Parang kung sa sine, ok lang tumawa, pero iba na ang arteng KULANG SA PANSIN. I'm sure inis tayo sa mga OA mag-react (bato-bato sa langit...). :rolleyes:

Yun lang po.

P.S. I think I'm starting to hear grunts from the "fans" already. oh well... :p

zion,

ang asim ng sampalok 'no!?
wala lang :) funny, yet still sourgraping.

pyket
Mar 4, 2002, 01:01 AM
so saan po makakahu ng kopya ng SMMC CD???? :D :D

zion
Mar 4, 2002, 03:30 AM
Originally posted by ?thinker?


zion,

ang asim ng sampalok 'no!?
wala lang :) funny, yet still sourgraping.

like you know. :p

fujitsu
Mar 4, 2002, 09:06 PM
zion ist armer Mann sourgraping., er kippen Nehmen es daß sein ehemaliger Chordidntton guter letzter Mittwoch, der ist, warum er auf " Ventilatoren " anderen Chores auswählt (der lediglich sourgraping). wir am Mittelgangdidntbegriff die Stares unserer seatmates - zion liegt. die Sänger waren diese Nacht das hervorragendste, folgend waren sie die Sänger vom pnu und Lasalle und -upsa. ich war Art von dissappointed mit der Leistung von einer, die - der meiste mit Beifall begrüßte Chor hergestellt wurde, aber sein noch eine gute Leistung für sie.

Z*E*U*S
Mar 5, 2002, 12:07 AM
haaaaaaaaaaaay, ang mama, nag german na!

Pattie
Mar 5, 2002, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by M_Lover
Meron na CD Misa 2000. Double Cd pa nga ata di lang umabot sa Bamboo because of some production kachakahan. Hmm, u haven't been reading the previous posts ni choirmother ha. I heard kasama na pati *** first misa niya.

Super galing ng San Miguel Choir yun lang. :D

So available na sha sa mg record bars? wow! Tnx!

Aidan
Mar 5, 2002, 09:49 AM
So now that we have seen and heard most of the University Choirs during the CCP Concert, don't you think it's time that we go back to the original question? the question that started this discussion.

So, sino NA ang pinakamagaling na University Chorale Group?


:D

choirmaster
Mar 5, 2002, 10:14 AM
Pattie,

Sorry for not replying earlier. The CDs are not out yet. But as soon as they are released, I can imagine you can get them from us at the foundation. That's the San Miguel Foundation for the Performing Arts, at the basement of the Main Office of San Miguel Corporation (yung parang naka-squat na pyramid sa gitna ng Ortigas Business District). Sorry, wala pa siya sa mga commercial stores, but yon ang susunod. In the meantime, I'll inform you na lang, or write something on this thread as soon as it comes out. Maybe you can even get it from me directly, or from any orchestra or chorale member. Will see...

As for the original question of this discussion, kung sino NA ang pinakamagaling na University choral (PLEASE! WALANG letter E!) group, ang sagot ko ay... no comment. hehehehe...

Choirmuthrels

Boccelli
Mar 5, 2002, 05:42 PM
...akala ko ba't ibinaon na sa limot ang tanong na "Sino ang pinakamagaling na university choral group ng pilipinas?" (without the "E" :))

...choirmudrels... di ko na kayo nalapitan after the wednesday show kasi busy kayo with minggling... sa susunod na lang po... :)

danke sa lahat ng nagpost ng reactions nila... :)

have a good week.

choirmaster
Mar 5, 2002, 06:44 PM
Fujitsu:

Wo hast Du deine übersetzungssoftware bekommen? Ich konnte fast nicht lesen, was du geschrieben hast. Was heisst fast... Ich konnte überhaupt nicht lesen, was du geschrieben hast! Kannst du vielleicht noch ein anderen software benützen, oder vielleicht sprich doch mal in einen andere sprache. Russisch vielleicht? hehehehe...

choirmama

fujitsu
Mar 5, 2002, 09:33 PM
Choirmama, was Software? Sowieso okay, verspreche ich, mehr der Sprache zu studieren, damit ich nicht über meine Grammatik Haha gefragt werde! Gutes Glück für Ihren Chor dort. Hier in Österreich, hören wir viel guten Kommentar über Ihre Gruppe. Ich möchte Sie, zusammen mit Ihrer neuen Gruppe hier sehen. Gutes Glück!!!

nota
Mar 5, 2002, 11:00 PM
:bluefish: i hope you enjoyed the show at the ccp coz i, for one, did enjoy the show and it made me very proud of our choirs here. judging from their performances we can't really judge what choir is the finest in the country. but during the show the UST Singers really stood out from the crowd. you guys know why? coz it's pure filipino tradition. look you've got to admit filipinos admire those with high voices, they don't care whether it's sharp or flat, as long as it is high it's good for a typical filipino audience.:p hmmm. returning to the question, sino nga ba ang pinakamagaling na university choir sa pilipinas? as of now the UP Singing Ambassadors currently holds a number of titles that swiped out all the countries in europe at the least. and from what i've heard their bound to defend their title this year that's why they will be leaving this coming school year. of course we also know that the UST Singers are bound to leave for their own tour this April, if i'm not mistaken. so we'll just have to wait for the results of their respective tours and by that time we'll probably have a new perspective as to who really is the best among the great choirs in the philippines. as of now may i have the priveledge to say that the UP SInging Ambassadors (UPSA) holds the title. i'm sure you've heard how they did during their european tour last year. they have been popping out consistently in newspapers not only in the philippines but also in the countries where they've performed. and believe me, their "fans" are waiting for their next visit to God knows what country it is. so people the argument is closed, the upsa is currently the best sa pinas. :imu:

Jerusalem
Mar 6, 2002, 04:39 AM
Originally posted by nota
:bluefish: i hope you enjoyed the show at the ccp coz i, for one, did enjoy the show and it made me very proud of our choirs here. judging from their performances we can't really judge what choir is the finest in the country. but during the show the UST Singers really stood out from the crowd. you guys know why? coz it's pure filipino tradition. look you've got to admit filipinos admire those with high voices, they don't care whether it's sharp or flat, as long as it is high it's good for a typical filipino audience.:p hmmm. returning to the question, sino nga ba ang pinakamagaling na university choir sa pilipinas? as of now the UP Singing Ambassadors currently holds a number of titles that swiped out all the countries in europe at the least. and from what i've heard their bound to defend their title this year that's why they will be leaving this coming school year. of course we also know that the UST Singers are bound to leave for their own tour this April, if i'm not mistaken. so we'll just have to wait for the results of their respective tours and by that time we'll probably have a new perspective as to who really is the best among the great choirs in the philippines. as of now may i have the priveledge to say that the UP SInging Ambassadors (UPSA) holds the title. i'm sure you've heard how they did during their european tour last year. they have been popping out consistently in newspapers not only in the philippines but also in the countries where they've performed. and believe me, their "fans" are waiting for their next visit to God knows what country it is. so people the argument is closed, the upsa is currently the best sa pinas. :imu:

Based on what I've heard at the CCP, I have to agree with you that UPSA (with the exception of Madz, since they're a league of their own) was the best THAT NIGHT. I'm not a fan of any choir and I rarely speak my mind, but I try my best to be as objective as possible.

Nota, you were very perceptive when you said that most choirs that night would have been judged by the Filipino crowd based on the highness of the notes or maybe loudness or weirdness of their pieces and the way the songs were sung, much like the way Filipinos judge a recipe by its FLAVOR. The tastier the better. Our race has a bias to almost anything that is glaringly colorful, grandiose, and sensual. But in Europe, what is generally considered is the homogeneity of sound.

UPSA may have had sung "tired" pieces, and that was their waterloo that night. But nevertheless, they gave a sound that was more homogenous than most, and with sincerity. For some, their's might have been bland o nakakasawa, uninspired even. And this is what they should learn. Give the Filipino audience what they want IF you expect them to go crazy over you, like most of the choirs who had their respective "highlights." (One choir even had all of their songs as their "highlights")

UPSA did well for a choir who had nothing new or sensually interesting to offer that night. Their excellence at the CCP may have gone unnoticed, except by an observant few. But that is precisely why they won in Arezzo. Their sound much more appreciated by Europeans. And this sound, with determined practice, is what would see them through the EGP this year.

As for what university choral group is the ABSOLUTE BEST? Your guess is as good as mine.

GadoGado
Mar 6, 2002, 09:49 PM
I have to agggreeeeee, i also really enjoyyed upsa's performance at ccp. i had to admit that i heard not so good things about them about their homecoming, but now the same people who also noticed the excellence upsa showed at ccp.

I also noticed another choir with a superlative sense of irony, i am amazed at how they achieved a very difficult feat of making people laugh at a song of sorrow. Astonishing diba?!!!

zion
Mar 7, 2002, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by fujitsu
zion ist armer Mann sourgraping., er kippen Nehmen es daß sein ehemaliger Chordidntton guter letzter Mittwoch, der ist, warum er auf " Ventilatoren " anderen Chores auswählt (der lediglich sourgraping). wir am Mittelgangdidntbegriff die Stares unserer seatmates - zion liegt. die Sänger waren diese Nacht das hervorragendste, folgend waren sie die Sänger vom pnu und Lasalle und -upsa. ich war Art von dissappointed mit der Leistung von einer, die - der meiste mit Beifall begrüßte Chor hergestellt wurde, aber sein noch eine gute Leistung für sie.

ich bin nicht "sourgraping". stattdessen bin ich sehr froh dass alle Chore wahrend dieser Nacht sehr gute Arbeit geleistet haben. upsa, la salle und pnu verdienten den Applaus von den vielen Zuschauern. aber die madz waren immer noch die besten in dieser nacht. ich bin mit zwei Choren ziemlich enttauscht. das eine chor hatte nicht sehr viel gefuhl und das andere war ziemlich oede.

hab einen guten tag...
ich hoffe das ich dich eines tages in oesterreich einmanl treffen werde....
viel glueck mit deinem chor:p

rookie_business
Mar 7, 2002, 01:08 AM
I was also there at CCP and I was so I happy I was! I really saw for myself what a huge aspect of the choral world of the Philippines is and is becoming!

I was really impressed with UPSA's sound! UPSA has always been known to possess a homogenous sound, yet this batch has a unique warm, sensitive and dikit na sound. I guess this is really their time. Weather-weather lang talaga nila yan! I'm hoping for the success of UPSA in its upcoming competitions! Congrats, Mr. Manguiat!

I also liked PNU! Don't you think they sounded like an established choir whose touring batch recently got disbanded? That's a compliment! This is really a dark horse in the choral industry. Good luck, PNU in your future plans!

Ateneo also came up with a good show despite its handicap. I see a great deal of potential with the present batch directed by Mr. Acoymo. I wonder how Mr. Acoymo will define the identity of Ateneo in the future. Kelan kaya dadating ang panahon ng Ateneo uli? Abangan!

I congratulate all the other choirs who have likewise shown extraordinary performances: UST, PWU, DLSU, UE and of course the Madz! I hope that there will be more concerts like these! Sana, promoted internationally na and viewers natin ang IFCM at ibang sikat sa tabi-tabi!

PeterWarlock
Mar 7, 2002, 03:35 AM
Hi!

Saan Makakabili ng CD ng Misa 2000 by Ryan Cayaybyab anu-anu pang works ang nasa CD.
Pls Reply!!!:)

twitytwity25
Mar 7, 2002, 09:58 AM
hi guys!

pwede ba, most of the choirs that night were outstanding in their styles. the UST's Bayan ko was quite moving, the Madz's Water Music was executed with overwhelming effects, the DLSU's Ave Maria was rendered with much expressions and crystal effect, the UPSA's Eli, Eli was very well defined in its characteristics, the PNU's Pamugon was very interesting and justicely rendered, the PWU, UE, Ateneo Glee Club, although quite new in the arena gave a fantastic performance as well.

Each of them has their very own distinct strength. each one is unique and salamat at di pare-pareho ng style, otherwise, boring na ang mapapanood natin.

let us all give our support sa mga choral groups na ito coz they are all world renowned. itong mga ito lang ang maipagmamalaki natin. we have a rotten system of government, a corrupt politicians, money oriented law enforcers, internationally sub-standard atletes, unfair justice system at ano pa ba. ito lang mga ito ang nagsisikap kanya-kanya para sa ikararangal ng bansang Pilipinas.

we love you Philippine Choirs, God bless all of you.


twitytwity
(i'm sweet)

choirmaster
Mar 7, 2002, 05:08 PM
PeterWarlock,

Hi! Basahin mo na lang ang page 37 at 38 (current page) ng thread na ito. Nandoon lahat ng sagot na kailangan mo.

Thanks!