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pyket
Aug 31, 2000, 08:41 AM
question: can anybody please tell me where i could obtain cds of the up madz and ust? i only have the korean cd of the madz and yung 97 tour nila. where can i get the others pa kaya? kahit taped copy lang. basta mapakinggan. ay, dlsu rin pala if they have any???

acgc, winner kayo i swear. pero loser talaga ako dahil hindi ako nakapanood ng concert ninyo ng madz nung monday. kasi naman, sinabi sa akin that day (afternoon umaasa pa ako but noooooo) na wala nang tickets available. tapos the following day, may kuwento sa akin na marami raw space for walk-ins... <;sniff>; :(

nouveaux
Aug 31, 2000, 01:41 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by heyderguy:
[B] hmmm..., mr. elijah, medyo ang gulo mo ha! buti na lang bumait ka na rin kahit papaano.
you were stirring up a hornet's nest tapos di mo man lang alam na yung cousin mo eh isang soloista! di lang basta soloista pero classified DIVA rin siya in her own right! you should hear her sing classical songs din--and what makes her different from the others is that she hasn't had any formal voice lessons pa. what if she had 'em pa?! and she's young pa at that--she's what 19, 20?! well, sabihin mo na lang sa cousin mo, HAIL HELE-HELE QUEEN and she'll know kung sino ang nag-post nito. paki-sabi na rin na hanggang ngayon, she still ahunts me with her version of "Caturog Na, Nonoy"...

My sincere gratitude... :) :) :)

sopranina
Sep 1, 2000, 12:04 AM
thanks to everyone who watched the Madz-ACGC concert last Monday!!!

monteverdi: i agree!! kahit yung ibang friends namin hindi rin nakakuha ng tickets. pero it's like this kasi. it was the NCCA who thought of this project to thank the people who supported them through the years (or something like that). i think it was supposed to be invitational lang pero, yun nga, they opened it to the public kahit papano. they printed 200 tickets lang yata, eh.

Ogie
Sep 1, 2000, 03:06 AM
i didnt get 2 watch the ACGC-Madz concert kasi wala na daw tickets...that is so unfair....Sopranina , Sowee ha. R u well na?

Zack
Sep 1, 2000, 03:15 PM
Bocelli:

thanks dun sa magandang site ha. very inovative. sana damihan mo pa yung mga kanta. i really wanna hear pa those others songs from DLSU Chorale, UST Singers, Ateneo Glee Club and The Philipine Madrigal Singers... thanks talaga!

KUDOS!!!!


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[This message has been edited by Zack (edited 09-01-2000).]

ganda!
Sep 1, 2000, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by nouveaux:
2Elijah:
Who the **** are you?! Mind you, I am a very proud former member of the DLSU Chorale and I would never say anything which would degrade or hurt my own members, especially the reputation of the DLSU Chorale. I do not wish to fight with you; I think it's a very LAME thing to do. But I am pissed. Too bad I only heard about all this name-using (mine, at that) last Saturday. If you ask me, all the choirs mentioned are good, and they each have their own fortes. Answer me these questions: Have you even represented your native land abroad? Have you showed foreign choirs that the Filipinos are the best? Before you lambast other people's achievements, look at your own first. Good day.

P.S. If you know me so damn well, you should know how my nickname is spelled.

GGGOOO GGIIRRRLLL!!! miss ko na katarayan mo! sige magtaray ka! wag lang ako yung tarayan mo, ha?!?

sopranina
Sep 1, 2000, 10:24 PM
ogie, i'm mejo ok na. better kahit papano. how was the VEP concert? i was still sick then, eh, tapos it was raining pa. i just had a verrrry harassing day. remind me to tell you about it someday, 'k?

Boccelli
Sep 2, 2000, 02:01 AM
<;B>;
Hi Guys...

I posted new songs in my "Choral Performances" folder...

Check it out....

I'm glad you liked them Zack!
http://briefcase.yahoo.com/chiuman98
<;/B>; :)

Boccelli
Sep 2, 2000, 02:45 AM
Hi People..

I updated my folder "Choral Performances"

Check it out..i hope you would get to listen to all the songs there..

Please, after you've heard all the songs, make a critique of the choirs or the songs on this Message Board!

THanks..
http://briefcase.yahoo.com/chiuman98

Zack
Sep 2, 2000, 01:17 PM
uy! ang daming nagrereply ah... basta lahat ng pinoy choirs magagaling!!!

Bocelli:
ang galing mo talaga!! the best!!!!

heyderguy
Sep 2, 2000, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by nouveaux:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by heyderguy:
[B] hmmm..., mr. elijah, medyo ang gulo mo ha! buti na lang bumait ka na rin kahit papaano.
you were stirring up a hornet's nest tapos di mo man lang alam na yung cousin mo eh isang soloista! di lang basta soloista pero classified DIVA rin siya in her own right! you should hear her sing classical songs din--and what makes her different from the others is that she hasn't had any formal voice lessons pa. what if she had 'em pa?! and she's young pa at that--she's what 19, 20?! well, sabihin mo na lang sa cousin mo, HAIL HELE-HELE QUEEN and she'll know kung sino ang nag-post nito. paki-sabi na rin na hanggang ngayon, she still ahunts me with her version of "Caturog Na, Nonoy"...

My sincere gratitude... :) :) :)


madamoiselle nouveaux,

hey there! i don't know if you got any text messages from me pero just in case you do have me in your phone book, could you please give me your email addy?! have something for you sana... yun lang po! and i agree with GANDA...all the way! GO GIRL!!!!!!

2 the ACGC people (especially johnnybbad),

hindi ako naka-watch ng concert nyo noong Monday...huhuhuhuh!!!! kelan ang next performance niyo?! and where, i wanna watch...please tell me!!!!

2 everyone...,

i was able to watch the MADZ last friday sa pci makati and AHHHHHH! wala na akong masabi pa...., forgive me for my innocence (or ignorance), pero ngayon ko lang naintindihan ang BITUING WALANG NINGNING! hanggang ngayon, when i remember how they sang it, i still lose my breath..., ms. whoopie, wag kang mag-react!
their german sacred song was....GALING! tama ka mr. johnnybbad! and their CIRCLE OF LIFE was just cool! encore sila ng three songs.
yup, yanni's aria was a kilabot experience and their version of my heart will go on was fantastic.....mayroon bang PEXer na taga MADZ...kailan ang next concert and where....please, lahat ng PEXers na miyembro ng choirs...adverstise your concerts....yun lang!

to mr. boccelli,

i posted something sa AM U thread mo...follow up ko na rin here..., i have your disney cd, what do you want me to do with it?! di ka pa rin reply eh! wala ka naman na sinabi sa akin...kung anong dapat kung gawin...yun lang....

Zack
Sep 2, 2000, 04:53 PM
http://www.pinoyexchange.com/crying.gifNakakainis talaga di ko napanood yung concert!!!aarrrggghhh!!! http://www.pinoyexchange.com/crying.gif


We demand for a repeat concert pls!!!! (pero this time kumpleto lahat ng choirs para mas maganda!!!!! plssssssss!!!!!!!) http://www.pinoyexchange.com/bop.gif

Zack
Sep 3, 2000, 08:10 AM
Haay!!! Galing ng MADZ talaga last Friday dun sa concert na kasama sina Lea Salonga And Robert Sena. Well applauded sila lalo na yung kinanta nila yun CIRCLE OF LIFE ang galing!!! World Class talaga ang mga nagperform!!!!

Genius101
Sep 3, 2000, 10:56 PM
Medyo tumahimik ata ito a... Anyway I hope the other PEXer choir members here will announce any upcoming concerts of theirs, para naman we all get to listen to and appreciate each other.

I sure would love to watch a full length concert of the Madz soon. Medyo nabitin ako don sa back-to-back concert.

Khel
Sep 4, 2000, 04:35 AM
hey hey hey..it's definitely DLSU chorale!
every year may award sa european competition.
=)

Zack
Sep 4, 2000, 06:42 PM
Tumahimik ata ang mga nagpopost dito ah...

elijah
Sep 4, 2000, 06:48 PM
bocelli,

bat d ka na nag-reply sakin, same with zack?

saan mo nakuha yung mga yun, ok yung pseudoyoik ah! may piyesa ka non?

sopranina
Sep 4, 2000, 10:38 PM
Guyz, may concert ang MADZ sa September 28 (Thursday) 6-8 pm at the UP College of Music. It will be for the benefit of the Abelardo Hall Auditorium. Watch tayo, ha!!!

[This message has been edited by sopranina (edited 09-04-2000).]

sopranina
Sep 4, 2000, 10:44 PM
Guyz, may concert ang MADZ sa September 28 (Thursday) from 6-8pm at the UP College of Music. It will be for the benefit of the Abelardo Hall Auditorium. Watch tayo, ha!!!

powerpuffghurl
Sep 5, 2000, 12:04 AM
SOBRA NA ANG MADRIGAL!!!!!!!!!!

Watching them, hearing them, live is like is an experience like no other. When I watched their hmecoming concert, the first time again, in about 2 yrs. (since the Malaya ka na, Pilipino performance), i was rattled to the very cushions inside the seat i sat onto. I just remembered turning my head slowly to my friend at the right in amazed disbelief thinking, "My God, they are capable of THIS." Not that i was ignorant of the Philippine Madrigal Singers, i just wasnt expecting that beautiful a sound to come from them. Their sound, the quality or color of it, is reminiscent of the Madz'89 sound, which was a perfect blending of full-bodiness and rich brilliance. Only difference was that they sounded tamer, which is, in my opinion, more merituous; and wala silang ffff. That was only afterthe first passages of Richte mich gott. Tapos they went on with the rest of their classicals, bowing twice after each song.

They rendered their international folksongs, andthey were simply fantastic --- very original interpretations. It was evident, the way they changed color, to suit the specific flavor ofthe specific folksong. Especially when they sang L'amour de moi, p*t*ngina parang p*kp*k sa lambot ang mga linya!!!! (SORRY FOR THE FOUL LANGUAGE, hihi). Their Shenandoah was like no other, they experimented on expressing the longingness for the place in subtle depth, technically by making mf the loudest dynamic. The interweaving of the voices in the last part (the polyphony)clearly evoked the very essence beneath the repitition of the passages: that the return to Shenandoah is a thought as surreal as the place itself. Haay, ang bongga nila!And as if hindi pa sila nakuntento, they sangthis totally TOTALLY RIVETING JOSHUA ARRANGEMENT (jazzed up version of the orig).There was a pert there na para kang binubusinahan nina Adelfa Jane, et al..

Their Pamugun was very, very colorful. As in, kebs kahit questionable nga kung dapat i-vary ang color ng voices to semi-tribal sound (that wasn't the point), their characterization helped create the images needed to paint, to tell the cinematic episodesbetween the hunter and the birds. Even their chipipay songs (Makikiliti ka and Kahit na Magtiis) weren't repulsive at all. Then came Bituing Walang Ningning.... ahhhh, that song. Para kang fini-f*ng*r.(excuse again)Of course it was mainly because of that exquisite arrangement, but iba talaga sila. You just know that was the way tha piece was meant to be sung. Im sure everyone has experienced this from this group, the way they literally scallop you from your seat, through your skin, to pierce the innermost recesses of your soul. It was, in one word, orgasmic.

Then came Yanni's aria. Adelfa Jane Diaz and Katkat Oliver, HGRAAAAAH!!!!! nuff said. And the last two: Circle of Life, and The Prayer. The most original arrangements ive heard so far (of the songs), and most excellently sung. They brought Africa in this entertaining piece, making full use of a variety of sounds to create the obvious atmosphere, and to emphasize the escalating movement of the song. The Prayer was simply moving, hair-raising to ba exact.

Sorry, nagmukhang review/ adjudication to. It wasn't in the very subconscious of my efforts to make it look like that in writing this.

Kung meron mang Madrigal dito, please make records ofthat concert for sale in the country naman. (I will buy it even for a thousand pesos!) Dont deprive choral maniacs like me of the chance to hear them over and over again. Better yet, think of it as a documentary of some sort. This batch should be doing lots of documetaries then especially with the accessibility of finer and cheaper audio resources nowadays...

Jesus, i sound crazy already.

ShhhiNONG NANAY MO???? yung nakaupo.

sopranina
Sep 5, 2000, 12:29 AM
powerpuffguhrl!!!! finally, you posted your message!!! hey, watch tayo nung september 28 concert nila, ha? miss you na! wasn't able to talk to you all that much during the joint concert (pano nga ba naman?! grrr). tell me if you're going para sabay tayo, ha?

cultured pearls
Sep 5, 2000, 10:01 AM
yung up and ateneo...
yun pa lang kasi ang mag naririnig ko pa lang na kumanta. http://www.pinoyexchange.com/lol.gif

cultured pearls
Sep 5, 2000, 10:01 AM
yung up and ateneo...
yun pa lang kasi ang mag naririnig ko pa lang na kumanta. http://www.pinoyexchange.com/lol.gif

cultured pearls
Sep 5, 2000, 10:03 AM
yung up and ateneo...
yun pa lang kasi ang mag naririnig ko pa lang na kumanta. http://www.pinoyexchange.com/lol.gif

cultured pearls
Sep 5, 2000, 10:04 AM
yung up and ateneo...
yun pa lang kasi ang mag naririnig ko pa lang na kumanta. http://www.pinoyexchange.com/lol.gif

11# UST_guard'98
Sep 5, 2000, 10:15 AM
PONTIFICIA ET RE GALIS S. THOMAE AQQUINATIS UNIVERSITAS MANILANA........
in short UST.......hehehe
V-I-V-A SANTO TOMAS!!!!

karen_c
Sep 5, 2000, 10:24 AM
Grabe!!! After a long time, ngayon lang ulit ako nakapag-post!!! Congratulations sa MADZ at sa Ateneo for a WONDERFUL and ENCHANTING concert. Ang ganda ng tunog niyo... Ateneo, considering na hindi pa kayo in tip-top shape, that was a great show pa rin no!!! Ang galing ni Aui sa Caturog na Nonoy and I also loved Go the distance!!! MADZ, Haaaaayyyy... grabe!!! I loved Yanni's Aria and Circle of Life (galing ni kuya alfred!!!) Pati yung mataas na note dun sa Psalm ata sa first part... si kuya alfred ba yun? Galing din... Ate Jane... grabe... idol ka na ata ng lahat ng soprano!!! Parang lahat ng tirahin na notes, CHICKEN!!! NO PROBLEM!!! Galing talaga.

Para sa concert pala ng MADZ sa September 28, where can we get tickets? May pasok ako nun pero aabsent na lang ako... http://www.pinoyexchange.com/thinker.gif

karen_c
Sep 5, 2000, 10:54 AM
para pala sa mga nag-re-request ng chicka lang na topic... look for TAROOJ!!!

nouveaux
Sep 5, 2000, 02:06 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by heyderguy:
[B] madamoiselle nouveaux,

hey there! i don't know if you got any text messages from me pero just in case you do have me in your phone book, could you please give me your email addy?! have something for you sana... yun lang po! and i agree with GANDA...all the way! GO GIRL!!!!!!

I'll text you my e-mail address na lang. I got nga pala your messages. Ano ba 'to?! Parang DLSU Chorale chikahan na lang. :)

nouveaux
Sep 5, 2000, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by ganda!:
GGGOOO GGIIRRRLLL!!! miss ko na katarayan mo! sige magtaray ka! wag lang ako yung tarayan mo, ha?!?



It's the kilay...

nouveaux
Sep 5, 2000, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by elijah:
bocelli,

bat d ka na nag-reply sakin, same with zack?

saan mo nakuha yung mga yun, ok yung pseudoyoik ah! may piyesa ka non?


Are you trying to avoid me? You haven't answered any of my questions. http://www.pinoyexchange.com/evilgrin.gif http://www.pinoyexchange.com/evilgrin.gif http://www.pinoyexchange.com/evilgrin.gif

karen_c
Sep 5, 2000, 02:39 PM
nouveaux!!! on line ka ba right now?

ganda!
Sep 5, 2000, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by Boccelli:

Is this also because of that remarkable performance the DLSU Chorale made at the De Doeln in Rotterdam for the World Symposium on Choral Music last year? If I'm not mistaken, the group followed this Korean Choir that for some reason was just absolutely astounding... they sounded very good. I heard that that choir is the Madz of Korea. Almost all of them are taking music at a good Korean Conservatory. I heard that they sounded like a Ukranian or Hungarian choir! Grabe!!!

Well, I wish you luck DLSU CHORALE...

Miriam Q. ang projection ok!!!!


KUDOS....

JohnnyBBad: I hope 4th Place sa isang category yung totoon chismis... I really would love them to win in Arezzo tapos kita kayo sa Tolosa??? tama ba?

Did you check out kung sino ang representatives ng other competitions for the Euro Grand Prix?

by the way.. I made a new thread... In case anyone cares... its entitled!

Ang mga PINAKAMAGAGALING na University Choirs sa Pilipinas! (or something like that)



di yata tuloy and dlsu chorale sa sept! rumor lang yata yun e pero i'm not sure pa rin. i'll update you about this soon!

heyderguy
Sep 5, 2000, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by nouveaux:
Originally posted by elijah:
bocelli,

bat d ka na nag-reply sakin, same with zack?

saan mo nakuha yung mga yun, ok yung pseudoyoik ah! may piyesa ka non?


Are you trying to avoid me? You haven't answered any of my questions. http://www.pinoyexchange.com/evilgrin.gif http://www.pinoyexchange.com/evilgrin.gif http://www.pinoyexchange.com/evilgrin.gif

genius101,

sori pero pagamit ha...,
tan tanananan, tanananan, tanananan, tan...
eh, mali 'ata! basta---

nouveaux,

tininintinin!!!!! as in pag new top score sa nokia phone games...., and definitely, nasa kilay talaga...sobra...yup, please do text me your email na lang, i have an idea kung ano pero di ko sigurado kung yun pa nga...

PEOPLE...,

watch tayo ng MADZ...., as in everyone..., special invitation goes out to ELIJAH..., malay mo, your beloved cousin might just come with us and you can talk...PARA SA MGA MADZ PEOPLE..., YABADOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

powerpuffghurl
Sep 5, 2000, 09:08 PM
sopranina: SHURE!!!!! kunan mo ko ng tickets, when they come out, ha? tapos kain tayo sa labas after, tapos kuha tayo ng cholbaumz, chengkeh!

how are the rehearsals of the tolosa group? ingatan nyo mga katawan nyo, lalo na ngayon ulan ng ulan (ako nga sobrang lunod ang baga sa plema these days, ewww). when are you guys going anyway?

sopranina
Sep 6, 2000, 12:52 AM
tickets for the MADZ concert will be available on the concert day itself. dating kayo ng maaga, as in! pero i'll ask kung pwede magpareserve then i'll just post the info here nalang.

powerpuffguhrl: ok! but i don't think i can go out after (especially NOT to get a cholbaumz... alam mo naman... joke!). by the time matapos yung concert, i'm super sure na i'll be sooo tired na to even eat out. pero i'll see, ok? rehearsals are shaping up na. i don't know if we're leaving on the 24th or the 25th. ask johnnybbad. mas alam niya ito.

Boccelli
Sep 6, 2000, 06:12 AM
Originally posted by Zack:

uy! ang daming nagrereply ah... basta lahat ng pinoy choirs magagaling!!!

Bocelli:
ang galing mo talaga!! the best!!!!


Thanks ZACK..

So what are your comments regarding the songs?(individually and how the choirs interepreted the songs)

I would really appreciate them!!!

Thanks!!!

NOUVEAUX... I'm so sorry i couldn't give you a call..i've been swamped lately and besides I'll see you guys soon!!!! Miss all you you!!!

Boccelli
Sep 6, 2000, 06:15 AM
Originally posted by Genius101:
Medyo tumahimik ata ito a... Anyway I hope the other PEXer choir members here will announce any upcoming concerts of theirs, para naman we all get to listen to and appreciate each other.

I sure would love to watch a full length concert of the Madz soon. Medyo nabitin ako don sa back-to-back concert.

Genius101.. can you make MP3 files of Madz and ACGC songs.... please.... im sure you know how to.... well.. assuming you don't(ba't ka pa tinawag na genius101---just kidding =) ) ... Use MusicMatch Jukebox... go to http://www.musicmatch.com ... thanks!!!

nouveaux
Sep 6, 2000, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by karen_c:
nouveaux!!! on line ka ba right now?

Hey karen_c! How may I help you? :) :) :)

Genius101
Sep 6, 2000, 06:16 PM
2Boccelli: I know how to make MP3s, thank you very much... :) Kaya lang I have no materials to get them from. Kahit nga DLSU Chorale CDs ko nawawala na e.

Kala ko mamamatay na ang thread na to e. Sige ipagpatuloy natin! Siguro yung mga PEXers nagtataka why is this F*cking topic so hot anyway? :) Baka manood sila ng mga concert natin... hehehe! ;)

Paabutin nating 100 pages! Kahit chikahan na lang! (de joke lang!)

Boccelli
Sep 6, 2000, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by Genius101:
2Boccelli: I know how to make MP3s, thank you very much... :) Kaya lang I have no materials to get them from. Kahit nga DLSU Chorale CDs ko nawawala na e.

Kala ko mamamatay na ang thread na to e. Sige ipagpatuloy natin! Siguro yung mga PEXers nagtataka why is this F*cking topic so hot anyway? :) Baka manood sila ng mga concert natin... hehehe! ;)

Paabutin nating 100 pages! Kahit chikahan na lang! (de joke lang!)




Paki record yung Poulenc ko na CD... Yung Kyrie, Gloria, and the others... i want to have MP3 copies of those eh... pleeeeezzzzz..

Tapos try to find pieces of those songs....

SO hindi na tuloy yung Korea nyo?? Sayang naman!!!! Yung MADZ pala naperform/magpeperform sa Taiwan for some Int'l Choral Fest... kasama nila University of Port Elizabeth Choir and Tapiola Children's Choir.... and others..


Saya nun!!!

Boccelli
Sep 7, 2000, 02:33 AM
Originally posted by Genius101:
2Boccelli: I know how to make MP3s, thank you very much... :) Kaya lang I have no materials to get them from. Kahit nga DLSU Chorale CDs ko nawawala na e.

Kala ko mamamatay na ang thread na to e. Sige ipagpatuloy natin! Siguro yung mga PEXers nagtataka why is this F*cking topic so hot anyway? :) Baka manood sila ng mga concert natin... hehehe! ;)

Paabutin nating 100 pages! Kahit chikahan na lang! (de joke lang!)



Hey Genius101... I know naman that you know how to convert CD singles to MP3 eh.. heheheheh.. anyways.. what about that Poulenc CD ... can you convert the first few songs to MP3... i miss hearing them!!!!!

Thanks!!!

pyket
Sep 7, 2000, 07:48 PM
powerpuffghurl: ganda ng commentary mo sa madz. kakainggit dahil hindi ako nakapanood... darn. i have this impression na kilala kita. hehehehe...

AGCG people: kelan next concert ninyo??? may pre-tolosa concert naman siguro kayo, right? *fingers crossed*

madz people: i saw something posted na may concert kayo sa 28th? details!!! how much are the tickets at saan makakakuha?!? i HAVE to watch!!! can't forgive myself if i don't. puhleeez!

sopranina
Sep 8, 2000, 12:20 AM
pyket: ACGC naman hindi AGCG (sorry, couldn't resist. hehe). i saw your post in the DWTL thread. rectory batch 146? do you know jewel? that batch din, i think.

sopranina
Sep 8, 2000, 12:45 AM
PYKET! i think i know you na... hmmm... lagi kitang nakikita everytime papunta ako sa rehearsal, kasama namin kayo sa org room, AND "asawa" mo sa DWTL yung buddy ko nung tour (whose name begins with a P din). tama ba?!

Zack
Sep 8, 2000, 03:51 AM
hey Bocelli: ganda lahat! galing!!!

pakipost naman dito kung magkano yung tickets ng MADZ...plssss!!!!!!!!!

newel
Sep 9, 2000, 12:08 AM
bakit naging chat ito?

obserbasyon lang po.

Zack
Sep 9, 2000, 10:42 AM
mukhang natahimik tong thread na to ah.. pakipost naman yung prices ng tickets ng MADZ sa concert nila on Sept 28 o.... ;)

pyket
Sep 9, 2000, 08:46 PM
sopranina: oooops... uhm... would you believe Ateneo Glee Club Grabeh! yung AGCG ko? (sowee...) kilala rin 'ata kita. ikaw ba yung sinasamba ko, na nabalitaan kong nagka-laryngitis nung joint concert ninyo ng Madz? pero winner "pokpok" ka pa rin. :) when's ur next concert?

wala ba talagang taga-madz na sasagot sa How Much inquiry ng tickets ng concert nila? :(

weeeeell, to answer to forum topic... MADZ pa rin. pero love ko talaga ang ACGC. (partly alma mater, pero mostly dahil all heart sila :)

beverage
Sep 9, 2000, 11:50 PM
Hello everyone! I have been reading all the pages of this thread and I have observed that this is a choir buff's hang-out pala. Being a chorister and choral buff myself, na-tempt naman ako na sumulat rin dito. It's funny that it had to take the question/topic "ang pinakamagagaling na university choral groups sa Pilipinas" to get people of the same interest together (siyempre in rivalry pa). I'm a member of a prestigious university choir myself and even part of the delegation going to Tolosa in October (hi sopranina, powerpuffghurl, JohnnyBBad and pyket!). Alam naman nating siguro na magagaling ang mga university choir groups dito sa Pinas. Hindi siguro tayo lahat perfect pitch gaya ng mga choirs sa Hungary at Sweden, etc. pero marami tayong puso pag kumanta. Siguro hindi lahat tayo malinis kumanta, each choir has its own focus in musical perfection. The fact that we have gone across the globe to be among the best is a blessing already. The fact that many of us already sing, speak, work, play and think music is so wonderful. I hope we continue to show the enthusiasm that we have for our music.

Genius101
Sep 11, 2000, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by beverage:
Hello everyone! I have been reading all the pages of this thread and I have observed that this is a choir buff's hang-out pala. Being a chorister and choral buff myself, na-tempt naman ako na sumulat rin dito. It's funny that it had to take the question/topic "ang pinakamagagaling na university choral groups sa Pilipinas" to get people of the same interest together (siyempre in rivalry pa). I'm a member of a prestigious university choir myself and even part of the delegation going to Tolosa in October (hi sopranina, powerpuffghurl, JohnnyBBad and pyket!). Alam naman nating siguro na magagaling ang mga university choir groups dito sa Pinas. Hindi siguro tayo lahat perfect pitch gaya ng mga choirs sa Hungary at Sweden, etc. pero marami tayong puso pag kumanta. Siguro hindi lahat tayo malinis kumanta, each choir has its own focus in musical perfection. The fact that we have gone across the globe to be among the best is a blessing already. The fact that many of us already sing, speak, work, play and think music is so wonderful. I hope we continue to show the enthusiasm that we have for our music.



>;>;>;>;>; Here, here!!! (or is it Hear, Hear?) :) Anyway welcome! Sana di muna mamatay ang thread na to.

Genius101
Sep 11, 2000, 11:43 PM
2Boccelli: I could make copies from your Poulenc CD, kaya lang I wouldn't be able to send them. I'm only using edsamail at home and I don't think I can send any attachment greater than 1MB. So far I haven't been able to.

sopranina
Sep 12, 2000, 01:12 AM
HELLO TO ALL!!! Regarding the MADZ concert on the 28th, hindi na siya sa 28. I saw kanina na they changed the date to October 1. UP Music doesn't know kung magkano pa ang tickets pero I'm sure naman it won't exceed 100 pesos. I'll keep you updated.

pyket: I had pharyngitis po, not laryngitis. I really don't know kung kailan ang susunod na concert namin. Probably the next one will be the farewell concert for Tolosa. You watch, ha! Miss you na! I don't go na kasi to the Galian room kasi separate na ang rehearsal venues, eh. How's the favorite GC trainee of TA? Is he still hanging out in your side of the room???

gryffindor
Sep 12, 2000, 08:17 PM
well, 'wag nating pag-awayin ang mga schools... pero i guess, we're just voicing out our opinions here ...

for me, the DLSU Chorale is simply the best! ANIMO LA SALLE!Ü

Boccelli
Sep 12, 2000, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by Genius101:
2Boccelli: I could make copies from your Poulenc CD, kaya lang I wouldn't be able to send them. I'm only using edsamail at home and I don't think I can send any attachment greater than 1MB. So far I haven't been able to.


hmmm.... get a yahoo account and then post it sa Yahoo! Briefcase. =) ... Guys, I'll be back sooner than you think!!!!.... Hope to see and hear all of you when I'm over there!!

Take care!

JohnnyBBad
Sep 13, 2000, 02:57 PM
Hay, finally my work is almost done! Ouch, this thread is on the 2nd page na of the Campus part! Does it mean laso na 'tong thread? heheheheheh

For those who'd like to know what our rep for the Tolosa competition is eto na:

Mixed voices category (22 singers)

A. Basque song and folksong
Une vielle chanson* - Bello-Portu
Mendekoste phestetan* - Bello-Portu
Amodioa* - Busto
Rosas Pandan - arr. Hernandez
Gabq-an - Federizon

B. Polyphony
O vos omnes* - Casals
Ride la primavera - Schütz
Vineta - Brahms
Sanctus - Cayabyab
Agnus Dei - Cayabyab

Vocal groups category (16 sibgers)

A. Religious Music
O rex gloriæ - Palestrina
Denn er hat seinen Engeln - Mendelssohn
Awit ni Solomon - Estrada
Magnificat - Swayne
Salmo 150 - Aguiar

B. Profane Music
Si ch'io vorrei morrire - Monteverdi
Resignation - Wolf
Musicians Wrestle Everywhere - Carter
Ronde - Ravel
Pamúgun - Feliciano
Caturog na Nonoy - arr. Hernandez

May farewell kami siguro the weekend before we leave (Oct. 20/21). Will keep you guys posted :)

P.S. Bocelli: what's the Poulenc CD that you have?

pyket
Sep 13, 2000, 07:44 PM
sopranina: himala bigla siyang nawala parang bula... pero keri lang dahil nasa RMT na kami for now (next production namin eh). :) god, i have to watch (or is it more of listen to) your pre-tolosa concert. god, yung nakita kong repertoire na pinost ni JohnnyBBad!!! winner... Gabaq and awit ni solomon?!! sheeeeet... pag may CD ulit kayo (i'm assuming na mayroon ha!), ****... must have!!! (kasi naman yung dalawang bakla mong kaibigan na kaibigan ko rin - yung nasa Thames at yung bass solo sa pamugun - ininfect ako ng pagiging chorister nila. tuloy na-addict na ako) eniwey, oct. 1 na yung sa madz? must watch rin. sabay tayo ng dalawang yun! (that is kung wala kayong rehearsals.)

johnnybbad: winner repertoire. i swear. dying to hear it...

Boccelli
Sep 14, 2000, 12:16 AM
Hey JohnnyBBad..

Great Repertoire.... I would love to hear your versions of Denn Herr, O Vos Omnes and Salmo 150. By the way, the Poulenc CD i have which is with Genius101 is his Gloria cd...it has the Kyrie and all the other nice songs...

I heard the songs you guys have mentioned like Richte mich, Gott... that's a nice piece... has anyone of you performed or heard Exultate Deo by Poulenc... sobrang ganda but i heard its a very tough piece...

Good Luck to ACGC sa Tolosa...


Still no word from UST??

NEWS FLASH.... the DLSU Chorale is in the "Meet the Choral World" CD of the 5th World Symposium on Choral Music held in Rotterdam, the Netherlands.

Galing...

If any choir will be going to the Netherlands pabili naman nung CD...ang hirap kasing bilhin from the Internet eh...

JohnnyBBad...would you know who are the other representatives from the other competitions??

GUYS... if you want to hear nice songs(samples) go to www.towerrecords.com (http://www.towerrecords.com) and go to the Classical portion... then search for a song...daming magandang songs and good choirs....

TAKE CARE AND SEE YOU SOON!!!...

GadoGado
Sep 14, 2000, 08:22 AM
Sopranina, namimiss na kita. kilala mo ba ako. sana kinanta sa alay kay maria ang how do you solve a problem like maria

Pyket: pinaglihi ka talaga sa empleyado ng Buco Joe

Zack
Sep 14, 2000, 10:44 AM
Hay naku.. san ba pede makabilinung boook ni robert delgado?.. anyone pls email me: simikelto@yahoo.com

Monteverdi
Sep 14, 2000, 01:50 PM
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I heard the songs you guys have mentioned like Richte mich, Gott... that's a nice piece... has anyone of you performed or heard Exultate Deo by Poulenc... sobrang ganda but i heard its a very tough piece...
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yup...maganda yang exultate deo ni Poulenc. I heard this german choir, RIAS Kammerchor do it...sila pa lang yung choir na narinig ko na hindi nawala ang intonation...I listened to it with the piece in hand and grabe, the intervals are just plain wierd...para bang Poulenc has an unusual style...dissonant chords, hard, chromatic intervals, strange progressions...but his works are quite melodic...

Duh...i think it's in this area of the choral repertoire that filipino choirs need to improve...medyo di tayo magaling magpatunog ng Mendelssohn, Poulenc, Bach(?)...Rutter pwede na siguro...

Monteverdi
Sep 15, 2000, 12:38 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Boccelli:
[B]
I totally agree with you.. but i must say, Mendelssohn pieces are kind of close to filipino choirs.. i personally love them... gamay na natin yung mga songs ni Mendelssohn... when we competed at the Mendelssohn Bartholdy Choral Competition last year, we were very well commended for how we showed the Germans how to sing German music.....(intonation and accent pronunciation wise)... i felt really proud of that ...

Bach... definitely .. we need more exposure to Bach... hmm.. i forgot ... who did Am Bodense.... anyhoo...

Brahms is also a tricky composer... when we performed the required piece in the Johannes Brahms competition, there were so many different interpretations of this 6/8 portion of the piece that we had to finalize how to sing it...(5 mins before we go up the stage)... damn.. and its a tough but very nice piece... i wish the DLSU Chorale would sing it in the Philippines... its called Darthulas Grabesgesang....

Exultate by Poulenc.. DLSU Chorale used that as a required piece in there 95 tour daw eh... forgot which competition..

i wanna hear other choirs sing the Scarlatti Exultate Deo.... please!!!_____________________________________________


About singing Mendelssohn --- I said it relative to how I hear German/Continental European choirs do it...iba talaga ang TUNOG...I know our choirs are impressive din naman, dahil we bring a unique expression to these works...DLSU chorale, why don't you try Mendelssohn's Heilig...I can give you the piece...it's a short, very beautiful work...

The Chorale I think sang the Poulenc Exsultate Deo sa Spittal...(?)

Scarlatti's Exultate Deo? Eh di Canticle...

Alam mo Boccelli, I think I know you...I think we met sa tower one...watching AJ's choir...diba?

Boccelli
Sep 15, 2000, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by Monteverdi:
i think it's in this area of the choral repertoire that filipino choirs need to improve...medyo di tayo magaling magpatunog ng Mendelssohn, Poulenc, Bach(?)...Rutter pwede na siguro...


I totally agree with you.. but i must say, Mendelssohn pieces are kind of close to filipino choirs.. i personally love them... gamay na natin yung mga songs ni Mendelssohn... when we competed at the Mendelssohn Bartholdy Choral Competition last year, we were very well commended for how we showed the Germans how to sing German music.....(intonation and accent pronunciation wise)... i felt really proud of that ...

Bach... definitely .. we need more exposure to Bach... hmm.. i forgot ... who did Am Bodense.... anyhoo...

Brahms is also a tricky composer... when we performed the required piece in the Johannes Brahms competition, there were so many different interpretations of this 6/8 portion of the piece that we had to finalize how to sing it...(5 mins before we go up the stage)... damn.. and its a tough but very nice piece... i wish the DLSU Chorale would sing it in the Philippines... its called Darthulas Grabesgesang....

Exultate by Poulenc.. DLSU Chorale used that as a required piece in there 95 tour daw eh... forgot which competition..

i wanna hear other choirs sing the Scarlatti Exultate Deo.... please!!!

APO:(
Sep 15, 2000, 09:48 AM
UST SINGERS

nouveaux
Sep 15, 2000, 03:24 PM
NEWS FLASH.... the DLSU Chorale is in the "Meet the Choral World" CD of the 5th World Symposium on Choral Music held in Rotterdam, the Netherlands.

Where did you find this? What song is included? I want one too! :D :D :D

Boccelli
Sep 16, 2000, 03:38 AM
Originally posted by Monteverdi:

Alam mo Boccelli, I think I know you...I think we met sa tower one...watching AJ's choir...diba?

Hmmmm ikaw ba yung naka glasses? I'm sorry i forgot your name.... but i do know what you look like...

Ikaw pala eh.. so na witness mo pala yung concert namin sa UP last year.... hehehehehehehehe

Anyhoo....

I heard the RIAS Kammerchor sa Towerrecords.com ang galing ng choir na yun ha!!... nakakabilib!!..

I think the way Europeans sing Mendelssohn pieces blandly... (just my opinion)...

I like the way UST and the Chorale sing it.. i have yet to hear ACGC's interpretation of Denn Herr and Richte...

CHORALE, i hope you got the Richte piece already.... please aralin niyo naman at kantahin niyo for Valentine's heheheheh i don't know if that's relevant.... wala lang para makasama ko sa pagkanta non... =)

wipee... malapit na akong umuwi!!!!

North_Halsted
Sep 16, 2000, 04:13 AM
comments on the ACGC Madz concert:

parang iba daw yung tunog ng ateneo nung gabing iyon. nalaman ko na lang na nagcomment na pala si Antonio Hila about the sound of the Glee Club. Narinig ko na lang na parang totoo daw yung comment na yun. magaling ang alto, tenor and bass. mahina ang soprano.

nawawala daw yung intensity ng tunog atsaka kahit daw malakas hindi mo daw ma feel yung intensity ng kanta. kung climax na yung kinakanta, hindi daw ma feel na climax na.

ano pa ba.... hmm..... hindi ko alam kung dahil may sakit lang yung mga soprano or kung ano man.

oh well

insight: kahit may mga pilay na sections dapat maganda pa rin ang tunog at harmony ng group. dapat hindi nawawala ang identity ng choir. ang nabalitaan ko. sa Madz. may mga magkakasoar throat or pharyngitis pero ine-equalize nila ang sound. hindi na volume ang ginagamit kundi intensity. isa yun sa advantage ng Madz. isa pang napansin ko na magaling gumamit ng intensity sa pagkanta ay ang La Salle Chorale. kahit na kokonti sila magaling pa ring magtapon ng boses. nakakamangha lang kasi ang konti talaga nila. ang male section nila iilan lang pero humahataw pa rin. nakakabilib. gusto ko sanang malaman kung paano yun ginagawa ng conductor nila na balanse pa rin yung tunong ng mga members. narinig ko na baka magka concert ang la salle chorale at ang madrigal singers sa future.... sana nga matuloy... ng makita naman natin yung pagkakaiba ng dalawang choir.....

ano na ba ang balita sa UST?

Yun lang muna , hanggang sa muli.

damn_me
Sep 16, 2000, 10:56 AM
definitely the UP MADRIGALS!

pyket
Sep 16, 2000, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by North_Halsted:
comments on the ACGC Madz concert:

parang iba daw yung tunog ng ateneo nung gabing iyon. nalaman ko na lang na nagcomment na pala si Antonio Hila about the sound of the Glee Club. Narinig ko na lang na parang totoo daw yung comment na yun. magaling ang alto, tenor and bass. mahina ang soprano.

nawawala daw yung intensity ng tunog atsaka kahit daw malakas hindi mo daw ma feel yung intensity ng kanta. kung climax na yung kinakanta, hindi daw ma feel na climax na.

ano pa ba.... hmm..... hindi ko alam kung dahil may sakit lang yung mga soprano or kung ano man.


ewan ko lang ano. i'm not sure. i wasn't there myself. but i believe may sakit nga yung mga soprano nila. pharyngitis ata for two of them.

yun lang. :)

pyket
Sep 16, 2000, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by North_Halsted:
comments on the ACGC Madz concert:

parang iba daw yung tunog ng ateneo nung gabing iyon. nalaman ko na lang na nagcomment na pala si Antonio Hila about the sound of the Glee Club. Narinig ko na lang na parang totoo daw yung comment na yun. magaling ang alto, tenor and bass. mahina ang soprano.

nawawala daw yung intensity ng tunog atsaka kahit daw malakas hindi mo daw ma feel yung intensity ng kanta. kung climax na yung kinakanta, hindi daw ma feel na climax na.

ano pa ba.... hmm..... hindi ko alam kung dahil may sakit lang yung mga soprano or kung ano man.


ewan ko lang ano. i'm not sure. i wasn't there myself. but i believe may sakit nga yung mga soprano nila. pharyngitis ata for two of them.

yun lang. :)

Monteverdi
Sep 16, 2000, 11:46 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Boccelli:
[B] Hmmmm ikaw ba yung naka glasses? I'm sorry i forgot your name.... but i do know what you look like...

Ikaw pala eh.. so na witness mo pala yung concert namin sa UP last year.... hehehehehehehehe

Anyhoo....

I heard the RIAS Kammerchor sa Towerrecords.com ang galing ng choir na yun ha!!... nakakabilib!!..

I think the way Europeans sing Mendelssohn pieces blandly... (just my opinion)...
____________________________________________

Yup, baka ako yun =)! I think we met din nung christmas concert ng chorale...talking about Janequin diba?

I saw your performance sa Abelardo...ok lang naman yun ah...hehehe...iba lang ang atmosphere siguro pag nasa UP ka...alam mo na...

Favorite choir ko yang RIAS Kammerchor... tindi ng soprano, mga robot pag tumira ng high A to C...As in sobrang linis kahit marami sila (34-39 singers) If you want, I can make you MP3s of some of their songs...I have the Poulenc, Brahms, and Bach album (OK yun, if you find their recording of Bach's Motets, wag mo nang palampasin! sobrang galing! Both si Bach and yung choir)

May point ka dyan! Some European choirs are sort of bland. Pero pag renaissance na work, dapat medyo detached ang expression--- that i think is the right interpretation, especially sa mga sacred songs. Pero Mendelssohn is romantic period na, kaya tama may point ka nga!

I heard this professional British choir, yung Corydon singers. They're not bland. But when they sang Richte, mga first 25 measures nag flat silang lahat! As in, they settled a half step lower, until the rest of the song! Recording to ha! I was bemused! Pero ok naman ang tunog nila...

Siguro our choirs need to develop a sort of robust sound, pero yung hindi ma vibrato and medyo focused ang dating...

Alam ko na kung bakit ka tinutukso sa Huling El Bimbo...hahaha...

[This message has been edited by Monteverdi (edited 09-16-2000).]

heyderguy
Sep 16, 2000, 05:08 PM
i think you can buy sir robert delgado's book at the music department of saint's scholastica, manila. well, someone told me that you can get it there, haven't checked it out myself though! anyway, since we're talkin' about him..., anyone out there who has heard of his arrangement of ABA GINOONG MARIA..., personal opinion---GALING! as in MAJOR WINNER!!!! if someone has a copy, please naman contact me and give me one...kahit malabo pa ang kopya! BTW, anybody heard of the holy trinity college grand chorale from puerto princesa, palawan? they're good and they have lottsa untapped potential! yun lang! god bless everyone!

sopranina
Sep 16, 2000, 06:41 PM
MADZ Concert on October 1:
- 3pm and 7pm
- Abelardo Hall Auditorium, UP College of
Music
- ticket prices P200 (P100 for students)

* mas ni-rerecommend yung 7pm show. baka raw kasi shorter yung 3pm, eh.

manghuhula
Sep 16, 2000, 06:46 PM
ofcourse sa DLSU,they won lot of awards na rin!!!

beverage
Sep 16, 2000, 09:10 PM
Umm, North_Halstead, OK lang. (Assuming you gave "constructive" criticism.) That concert was presented by the NCCA to showcase the choirs they funded to join the Florilege Vocal de Tours in France. Definitely not for the choirs to compete against each other.


Remind me to listen to your choir in the future, K?

North_Halsted
Sep 18, 2000, 10:26 PM
Originally posted by beverage:
Umm, North_Halstead, OK lang. (Assuming you gave "constructive" criticism.) That concert was presented by the NCCA to showcase the choirs they funded to join the Florilege Vocal de Tours in France. Definitely not for the choirs to compete against each other.

Remind me to listen to your choir in the future, K?

All the comments i made were constructive in nature.... pero para ngang hindi no.. sorry kung hindi... nakulangan lang siguro ako ng words to explain myself. :)

Wala akong choir, pero pwede kong masabi na hmmmmm... mapangangatawanan ko yung mga critiques ko.. =)

Basta para sa akin... ACGC, DLSU Chorale and UST Singers pa rin ang tatlo sa pinakamagagaling na university choirs sa pilipinas.

Good luck nga pala sa Ateneo sa Tolosa... sana manalo kayo... serious ako!!!... please... manalo kayo!!!!! you can do it!!!!! =)

Boccelli
Sep 18, 2000, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by Monteverdi:
Yup, baka ako yun =)! I think we met din nung christmas concert ng chorale...talking about Janequin diba?

I saw your performance sa Abelardo...ok lang naman yun ah...hehehe...iba lang ang atmosphere siguro pag nasa UP ka...alam mo na...

Favorite choir ko yang RIAS Kammerchor... tindi ng soprano, mga robot pag tumira ng high A to C...As in sobrang linis kahit marami sila (34-39 singers) If you want, I can make you MP3s of some of their songs...I have the Poulenc, Brahms, and Bach album (OK yun, if you find their recording of Bach's Motets, wag mo nang palampasin! sobrang galing! Both si Bach and yung choir)

May point ka dyan! Some European choirs are sort of bland. Pero pag renaissance na work, dapat medyo detached ang expression--- that i think is the right interpretation, especially sa mga sacred songs. Pero Mendelssohn is romantic period na, kaya tama may point ka nga!

I heard this professional British choir, yung Corydon singers. They're not bland. But when they sang Richte, mga first 25 measures nag flat silang lahat! As in, they settled a half step lower, until the rest of the song! Recording to ha! I was bemused! Pero ok naman ang tunog nila...

Siguro our choirs need to develop a sort of robust sound, pero yung hindi ma vibrato and medyo focused ang dating...

Alam ko na kung bakit ka tinutukso sa Huling El Bimbo...hahaha...

[This message has been edited by Monteverdi (edited 09-16-2000).][/B]

I bough two CDs from Towerrecords.com and i hope to hear RIAS soon... basta wala akong masabi ... they're really good...

Before I was talking about this Ukranian Choir na we competed against sa Grand Prix ng Brahms sa Wernigrode... SOBRANG GALING!!!!.... sa sobrang galing nila.. naiinis ako!!!.. hehehehhehee... actually... they were just f*****g good!!!... ganon sila kagaling... and I really know they did deserve that award!... I forgot the songs they sang for the Grand Prix eh... but they were also good... I'm thinking... siguro Cayabyab's Gloria would be a good piece for a grand prix thing no.....

Anyhoo...I would like to be back sa group for the Feb concert!... nakakamiss tumira ng high notes!! hehehehehehehehe... and for some reason.. here in the US, I still try to sing... weird lang coz i sing along with the UST Singers' 1999 CD.. hehehehehhe....

yun lang po... See you all in October!

Boccelli
Sep 18, 2000, 10:46 PM
MONTEVERDI---

Please do send me a few songs of theirs... If you have the complete Exultate Deo Poulenc and do they have their version of La Guerre and Les Chant by Jannequin.... please please... =)

Thanks!!! =)

Monteverdi
Sep 19, 2000, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by Boccelli:
MONTEVERDI---

Please do send me a few songs of theirs... If you have the complete Exultate Deo Poulenc and do they have their version of La Guerre and Les Chant by Jannequin.... please please... =)

Thanks!!! =)


_____________________________________________

Sabi nung friend ko from UST singers (before they left for the tour) aralin daw nila yung Gloria ni Ryan para sa Arezzo...dunno kung natuloy...

Anyway, sige hintayin mo lang i'll send you. Pero i dont think kinanta nila yung mga sinasabing mong chansons ni Janequin... pero gusto mo, may live ako ng King's Singers ng La Guerre...ang galing!!! basta wait ka lang! Look also for the Monteverdi Choir...you must absolutely hear them sing Handel's Dixit Dominus and Messiah!

BTW, nandoon ka na ba when the Chorale performed Scarlatti's Dixit? Nakita ko kasi yung video...

Monteverdi
Sep 19, 2000, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by heyderguy:
i think you can buy sir robert delgado's book at the music department of saint's scholastica, manila. well, someone told me that you can get it there, haven't checked it out myself though! anyway, since we're talkin' about him..., anyone out there who has heard of his arrangement of ABA GINOONG MARIA..., personal opinion---GALING! as in MAJOR WINNER!!!! if someone has a copy, please naman contact me and give me one...kahit malabo pa ang kopya! BTW, anybody heard of the holy trinity college grand chorale from puerto princesa, palawan? they're good and they have lottsa untapped potential! yun lang! god bless everyone!
_____________________________________________

Do i know you? baka nga...

Anyway, are you sure si Robert Delgado gumawa nun? Baka si Annie Abeleda (MADZ soprano and choirmaster ng UE Chorale)...kasi meron ako nung piyesa nun...

Genius101
Sep 20, 2000, 12:11 AM
Salamat sa mga nagsabing strong point ng DLSU Chorale ang intensity at ang pag-cope with the fact na kulang talaga sa male members. Pero sobrang hirap na! Calling all Lasallians interested, wag na mahiya! Nahihirapan na ako... i mean... kami...

The genuine Kal-El
Sep 20, 2000, 08:27 AM
Edi Ateneo!

Boccelli
Sep 20, 2000, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by Monteverdi:
Originally posted by Boccelli:
MONTEVERDI---

Please do send me a few songs of theirs... If you have the complete Exultate Deo Poulenc and do they have their version of La Guerre and Les Chant by Jannequin.... please please... =)

Thanks!!! =)

_____________________________________________

Sabi nung friend ko from UST singers (before they left for the tour) aralin daw nila yung Gloria ni Ryan para sa Arezzo...dunno kung natuloy...

Anyway, sige hintayin mo lang i'll send you. Pero i dont think kinanta nila yung mga sinasabing mong chansons ni Janequin... pero gusto mo, may live ako ng King's Singers ng La Guerre...ang galing!!! basta wait ka lang! Look also for the Monteverdi Choir...you must absolutely hear them sing Handel's Dixit Dominus and Messiah!

BTW, nandoon ka na ba when the Chorale performed Scarlatti's Dixit? Nakita ko kasi yung video...

Yes...I was there well... ito ba yung Dixit nung 1998? basta yun ata yung nung kumpleto pa kaming Europe 99 batch... Gusto ko sana yung Soli nung Dixit eh(kahit yung Juravit man lang).... kaya lang nakuha nung isang member na talaga naman magaling... wala lang sana tig-isa kami nung solo....

I remember one of the rehearsals for Dixit...i did the alto/countertenor part!... heheheheh sabi nga nung conductor namin dapat daw yung tira nung alto solo katulad nung pagtira ko.... hahahahahaha... gusto ko talaga ang alto!!!

GENUIS101... ilan na lang ba kayo!?!?!?!?

pyket
Sep 21, 2000, 09:13 AM
question about the MADZ concert sa october 1. tuloy naman yon, i presume, di ba (3pm/7pm)? where can we get the tickets? :)

sopranina/powerpuffghurl/beverage/gadogado: nood tayo? :)

Monteverdi
Sep 22, 2000, 02:37 PM
Hello to the members of the Ateneo Glee Club...where can one buy your CD? please post naman here, pati if possible yung repertoire. Thanks.

karen_c
Sep 22, 2000, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by Genius101:
Salamat sa mga nagsabing strong point ng DLSU Chorale ang intensity at ang pag-cope with the fact na kulang talaga sa male members. Pero sobrang hirap na! Calling all Lasallians interested, wag na mahiya! Nahihirapan na ako... i mean... kami...




AYAW PA AMININ NA SIYA NGA ANG NAHIHIRAPAN!!! anyway, oo nga, sa lahat sana nang lasallians na makabasa nitong thread na to, please pass the word na the chorale is opening its doors for male singers. auditions any day, 6-9 pm. maawa na kayo sa male singers namin... AND IM SURE THERE ARE A LOT OF YOU OUT THERE WHO HAVE THE TALENT... wag nang sayangin... ;)

karen_c
Sep 22, 2000, 03:47 PM
medyo matagal na akong hindi nakapost a. anyway, i agree with heyderguy... magaling yung choir from palawan...

2nouveaux :(tama ba?) la lang naman... akala ko, you were on line nung on line ako... ;)

2bocceli: (nalilito pa rin ako, double l ba yun?) miss ka na talaga namin... pero it was nice hearing your voice... :) sana kinantahan mo na rin kami ng masterpiece mo... (matona mia na version 2... hehe)

TULOY NA BA TALAGA YUNG OCTOBER 1 NA CONCERT NG MADZ? WE WOULD LOVE TO WATCH SANA... ANONG DAY BA YUNG OCTOBER 1? SANA WALANG KANTA... ;)

karen_c
Sep 22, 2000, 04:41 PM
naisip ko lang... (alam niyo naman ako mapag-isip) na siguro kaya hindi mamatay-matay tong thread na to eh dahil common characteristic na siguro talaga ng mga singers ang madaldal (kahit sa computer) at yung hindi nagkakasawaan. kahit magkakasama na kayo everyday dahil sa klase at rehearsals, pagkatapos, wala pa ring katapusan ang chika!! wala lang... just a thought. :)

Monteverdi
Sep 22, 2000, 05:08 PM
Has anyone heard Samuel Barber's Agnus Dei? Sobrang Ganda!!!!!

I wonder how it would sound pag Filipino choir ang kumanta...it is one of the most utterly moving choral works of all time.

Avalanche
Sep 22, 2000, 05:12 PM
Basta ako sa sariling amin the De La Salle Choral

whoopie
Sep 22, 2000, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by Avalanche:
Basta ako sa sariling amin the De La Salle Choral

hello Avalanche! Thanks for loving your own. The De La Salle University ChoralE (correction lang, with an E a!=) anyway baka naman hindi mo lang napindot ang E. well, i'm from la salle and i think lang na it's better kung kung kami rin magco-correct sa yo kaysa taga ibang schools, right? baka kasi may manlait pa na iba dyan e. ;)) is really good. Have you watched any of their concerts? Kung hindi pa, manood ka. You'd be really proud na you're a La Sallian-World class talaga.=)

little bee
Sep 22, 2000, 05:49 PM
ey der peeps! finally nakapa-register na rin ako!!
ah basta!! sa mga members ng DLSU Chorale, keep up the GREAT work! :cool: :cool: :cool: your group is definitely composed of talented and good-looking young adults! (and, id just like to say na to ur "cute-boy-next-door" THE BEST KA TALAGA!! alam mo naman... http://www.pinoyexchange.com/blush.gif)
ingat pag-umuuwi, and paki-sabi sa tatay ko na mag-minor naman siya at seat-belt! ;)

little bee
Sep 22, 2000, 05:56 PM
anyway, wala naman akong balak talagang i-post dito na parang kakaiba, hehe, just wanted to say hi to my friends from the DLSU Chorale! Good Luck sa inyo!! (and i mean that in a good way, hehe)

Boccelli
Sep 23, 2000, 03:30 AM
Monteverdi... I just heard the Agnus Dei... maganda nga siya ..very intense.... i think kaya siyang i-deliver ng filipino choir.... would you have a piece of it?...I'm also looking for pieces for the poulenc mass in G. Gusto kong kantahin yung Gloria and Sanctus!!! waaaaaaa.....

karen_c .... ako..pwede ba akong sumali sa choir niyo?

hehehehehehehehehe


Monteverdi... i also heard a portion of this piece called Miserere Mei, Deus by Gregorio Allegri... interesting piece also!! ang dami kong naririnig na samples sa Tower Records!!! sarap bumili ng CDs

DLSU Chorale, bumili na ako nung World Symposium CD.... i'll let you hear it as soon as i get it!

chikitita
Sep 23, 2000, 04:50 AM
Originally posted by The genuine Kal-El:
Edi Ateneo!

yah, siyempre love your own. :D
besides, they go to europe and other countries once or twice a year...i don't even know how they manage to graduate...and they bring back lots of trophies. they've been around for 70something years and they're known worldwide. plus, they're a hot commodity in weddings and concerts too. :)

sopranina
Sep 23, 2000, 02:10 PM
Tuloy na tuloy po yung MADZ concert on October 1. Sunday yon.

sopranina
Sep 23, 2000, 02:37 PM
Monteverdi and Boccelli: Hi! Actually, 2 Filipino choirs have Barber's Agnus Dei in their Repertoire-- UPSA and UST Singers. I really haven't heard UPSA sing it but I've heard the UST version. They sang it during their concert at the Abelardo Hall Auditorium last year. It was nice naman pero sana they just did it a capella. That time kasi Sir Fidel accompanied them on the piano. My friend there told me why Sir had to accompany them, I forgot nga lang her answer. I'm sure if they sing it again, this time with more confidence and done a capella, winner ang tunog!

schizo_guy
Sep 23, 2000, 02:49 PM
hi peeps!.....it's my first time 2 post here....i believe na Filipinos are really talented when it comes to singing(pang world-class talaga!)....para sa akin, bawat choir ay may kanya-kanyang strengths and weaknesses kaya mahirap talagang magsabi kung sinong "pinakamagaling" na university choir dito sa Philippines....isa pa marami kang dapat i-take into considerations when determining who is the best.....***** magkakatalo na lang yan sa pagde-deliver ng 1 choir ng sound....for me kahit hindi perfect *** song technically, basta nakanta ng choir *** song na may "puso"(*** tumindig *** balahibo mo at ayaw mo ng matapos *** song)....para sa akin magaling *** choir!....syempre kailangan mas na-feel mo *** kanta more than napuna mo *** mga mali sa song......*** tipong makakalimutan mo *** mali sa tindi ng pagkakanta!.....and for me the following choirs are the best: ust singers, dlsu chorale, up madrigal singers, ateneo glee club.....hope to listen again to these choirs SOON!....yun lang po.

heyderguy
Sep 23, 2000, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by Monteverdi:
_____________________________________________

Do i know you? baka nga...

Anyway, are you sure si Robert Delgado gumawa nun? Baka si Annie Abeleda (MADZ soprano and choirmaster ng UE Chorale)...kasi meron ako nung piyesa nun...

[/B]

MR. Montiverdi...,

balik ko sa yo ang question..., do i know you too?! heheheh! sabi ng HTC Grand Chorale, Robert D. arranged it especially for them. yun lang! BTW, for the people inquiring about his book, it costs 300Php., sabi nila, worth it daw.

Monteverdi
Sep 23, 2000, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by Boccelli:
Monteverdi... I just heard the Agnus Dei... maganda nga siya ..very intense.... i think kaya siyang i-deliver ng filipino choir.... would you have a piece of it?...I'm also looking for pieces for the poulenc mass in G. Gusto kong kantahin yung Gloria and Sanctus!!! waaaaaaa.....

Monteverdi... i also heard a portion of this piece called Miserere Mei, Deus by Gregorio Allegri... interesting piece also!! ang dami kong naririnig na samples sa Tower Records!!! sarap bumili ng CDs


Bocelli...alam mo ba yung kwento sa Miserere na yan? It's was a tightly guarded piece by the pope way back in the 17th century. Yung Sistine Chapel choir lang ang may piyesa nun kaya lahat ng composers pumupunta dun sa Vatican para lang marinig tong kanta na to...damot sila sa score eh! (Meron na palang ganun dati pa! hehehe!)

Anyway it was a young, teenage Mozart who heard it once, went home, and transcribed all 10 minutes of the work from memory! He went back to check and discovered he had one or two mistakes! Grabe talaga! Well, dun na kumalat yang Miserere na yan...

Meron na daw kumanta n'yan dito sa Pilipinas. Sabi ng conductor n'yo (Si Sir), nung kabataan nila, kinanta daw nila yan sa Parish namin one holy week...ewan ko kung totoo at kung may gumawa nung high C na ornamentation. Pero yung Parish Priest kasi that time ay nakapag-aral ng music sa Germany...so baka nga totoo...

To everyone, look for this song Miserere Mei by Gregorio Allegri. It's a very famous work about 8-10 minutes long "where its mixture of plainsong (that is, single-line chanting in unison) and rich polyphony (that is, different voices singing different lines which weave in and out of each other)" is truly an inspiring work. (classiccd.co.uk)

So many versions abound but the best maybe by the Tallis Scholars and by the Choir of Trinity College, Cambridge.

Meron akong complete scores ng sacred works ni Poulenc EXCEPT yung mass in G =(

heyderguy
Sep 23, 2000, 03:00 PM
I AGREE WITH THE POSTS OF Genius101 and Karen_c---ahem, mag-sama ba daw?! HEHEHEH!
lagot na naman ako sa carpool nito! to all LA SALLIAN GUYS out there...., and you have the talent to sing and the willingness to learn and the heart to commit..., please come and audition...William Hall 210, MWF, 6-9 in the evening. PITO NA LANG KAMI na regular people sa male section. yun lang po!

Monteverdi
Sep 23, 2000, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by sopranina:
Monteverdi and Boccelli: Hi! Actually, 2 Filipino choirs have Barber's Agnus Dei in their Repertoire-- UPSA and UST Singers. I really haven't heard UPSA sing it but I've heard the UST version. They sang it during their concert at the Abelardo Hall Auditorium last year. It was nice naman pero sana they just did it a capella. That time kasi Sir Fidel accompanied them on the piano. My friend there told me why Sir had to accompany them, I forgot nga lang her answer. I'm sure if they sing it again, this time with more confidence and done a capella, winner ang tunog!


Hi! Actually, Samuel Barber's Agnus Dei was based on his own, incredibly famous Adagio for strings (heard to great effect in the movie Platoon and also used during the funeral of John F. Kennedy). The conductor Arturo Toscanini persuaded Barber to adapt it for choral use. So in 1967, Barber did write a choral adaptation with optional organ or piano accompaniment.

Mahaba kasi siya diba? The difficult parts kasi lie in the middle, so it's important na in tune pa rin ang choir pagdating sa "murderously" intense climactic part na 'to. Maybe why Sir Fidel had to do the piano(?). Pero agree ako mas matindi kung a cappella.

Actually I saw this nga in one our choir's repertoire...di lang ako sure kung sino (baka nga UPSA).

The Choir of Trinity College of Cambridge did the best version (check reviews sa net). May CD sila sa Landmark sale P187 lang! Titled "Voce", it includes Allegri's Miserere. Unbelievable!!! The Landmark people are giving this away!

Monteverdi
Sep 23, 2000, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by heyderguy:
MR. Montiverdi...,

balik ko sa yo ang question..., do i know you too?! heheheh! sabi ng HTC Grand Chorale, Robert D. arranged it especially for them. yun lang! BTW, for the people inquiring about his book, it costs 300Php., sabi nila, worth it daw.



Yung Consolacion maglalabas ba ng libro? Hahaha!

Kung meron kayo lang naman ang makakakanta! hehehe! patay ako dun!

sopranina
Sep 23, 2000, 03:25 PM
hi, Monteverdi! We have 2 CDs. Here are the info you requested:

I. Ateneo de Manila College Glee Club
(recorded in Germany)
price: P500

1. Kyrie -- Cayabyab
2. Cruxifixus -- Lotti
3. Magnificat -- Swayne
4. Aba Po, Santa Mariang Reyna -- Cayabyab
5. Denn er hat seinen Engeln befohlen -- Medelssohn
6. Ride la primavera -- Schütz
7. Dirait-on -- Lauridsen
8. Tous les droits -- Poulenc
9. Nonot Kamo Kanako -- arr. Palaruan
10. Caturog na Nonoy -- arr. Hernandez
11. Pamugun -- Feliciano
12. Hanggang Langit -- Navarro/Uy
13. No Importa la Distancia -- arr. Pamintuan
14. The Prayer -- arr. Nepomuceno

II. The Ateneo de Manila College Glee Club
Best of the best recordings
European Tour 2000
price: P1,000 (2 discs)*
* I don't know if it can be bought
separately

DISC 1
5th Mednarodno Zborovsko Tekmovanje
(Maribor, Slovenia)
1. Kadar Te Ni -- Sivic
2. Kyrie -- Cayabyab
3. Caturog na Nonoy -- arr. Hernandez
4. Nonot Kamokanako -- arr. Palaruan

Battenberg, Germany
5. Denn er hat seinen Engeln befohlen -- Mendelssohn
6. Crucifixus -- Lotti
7. Gloria -- Cayabyab
8. Pater Noster -- Calalang,Jr
9. The Lord is My Shepherd -- Navarro

47th Cork International Choral Festival
(Cork, Ireland)
10. Aba Po, Santa Mariang Reyna -- Cayabyab

Alagon, Spain
11. No Importa la Distancia -- arr. Pamintuan

DISC 2
29eme Florilège Vocal de Tours
(Tours, France)
12. El Grito -- Rautavaara
13. Magnificat -- Swayne
14. Dirait-on -- Lauridsen
15. Pokpok Alimpako -- Feliciano
16. Ronde -- Ravel
17. Malaguena -- Rautavaara
18. Tous les Droits -- Poulenc
19. Cantique de Jean Racine -- Faurè
20. Pamugún -- Feliciano

Brussels, Belgium
21. Rosas Pandan -- arr. Hernandez

Zaragoza, Spain
22. Anak -- arr. Pamintuan
23. Dahil Sa Iyo -- arr. Obispo

Berlin, Germany
24. Bayan Ko -- arr. Navarro

-- I recommend you buy the "Best of the best". Siyempre "untouched" siya kasi live performances plus yung actual competitions. You can buy this through any GC member. The other CD naman, the one we recorded in Germany, can be bought din yata sa Ateneo Alumni Office.

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UP:enigma
Sep 23, 2000, 03:36 PM
syempre, the best pa rin ang UP Madrigal Singers. pati na rin UP Singing Ambassadors

Monteverdi
Sep 23, 2000, 03:53 PM
Hello Sopranina!

Thanks for that LONG info...ang tiyaga mo ah! hehehe...

To be honest di ko pa kayo narinig lately. I have your 2 old cds (galing nung "Sa 'yo lamang!). Actually binili ko pa yun way back when I was just starting my choral cd collection.

Intrigued ako sa Crucifixus n'yo. I love kasi to hear Filipino choirs interpret works from the classic chorale repertoire...I love Lotti's Crucifixus alot.

Uy may magaling pa na Ateneo choir ah! Yung Hangad...kahit di sila classical sounding magaling sila mag a cappella! Contemporary sound!

Email you pag bili na ako...ok?

Monteverdi
Sep 23, 2000, 04:52 PM
Hello to everyone!!!

Well, totoo ngang 4rth overall ang UST singers sa Arezzo. 1st) Lithuania 2nd) Sweden 3rd) Great Britain. Pero kahit na...Arezzo is widely regarded as the most prestigious choral competition in the world. So a 4rth place finish is not bad at all...

So then...we hope the AGC can win the Grand Prix...

Monteverdi
Sep 23, 2000, 04:53 PM
Is there anyone out there who has a score of Stravinsky's Credo?

If our country is really one with a respected choral tradition, why wont well known choral groups tour here? Imagine the Choir of King's College going to Macau and Taiwan(?) during their 2000 Asian tour, pero no Philippines in their itinerary! Bakit di sila dumaan dito? takot ba sila? Baka makidnap? Hehehe!

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sopranina
Sep 24, 2000, 02:08 AM
Hi, Monteverdi! Thanks nga pala dun sa info about Agnus Dei. Hmm, pwede ngang ganun yung reason kaya tumugtog nalang si Sir Fidel. Pero parang di yun ang sinabi sa akin nung friend ko. Hay, dedma!

Oo na, mahaba na nga po kung sa mahaba! hehe. Shempre para pag bumili ka, or yung iba na interesado for that matter (hint, hint!), alam mo yung mga kantang kasama dun, diba?

Ay, tagal na nung CDs na yun! Most of us nasa high school pa yata nun, eh. Padalhan kita ng Crucifixus namin, you like? It's included in the Best of the best-- yung during a concert in Battenberg, Germany.

We've had around 1 or 2 concerts, I think, with Hangad. I hear some of their songs being sung in our church. They did a concert in the AdMU college chapel a month ago. I wasn't able to watch since we had rehearsals. When I went down, di pa sila tapos. Dami tao, puno yung chapel! When did you hear them ba?

Sige, e-mail mo ko if you want to buy a CD (or CDssss) BTW, are you from UST? Where did you get the info about the UST Singers? I knew about the results before pa pero I wouldn't want to be the one to post it here. Tinext lang kasi sa akin yung result nung Arezzo competition.

dagobert
Sep 24, 2000, 06:01 PM
Poulenc's Exultate Deo is a killer . . . grabe yang song na yan!


[QUOTE]Originally posted by Monteverdi:
[B] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Boccelli:
[b]MONTEVERDI---

Please do send me a few songs of theirs... If you have the complete Exultate Deo Poulenc and do they have their version of La Guerre and Les Chant by Jannequin.... please please... =)

CK
Sep 24, 2000, 07:16 PM
Syempre La Salle Chorale...world class :)

red_door8
Sep 24, 2000, 08:05 PM
Syempre para sa 'kin La Salle!

Monteverdi
Sep 25, 2000, 10:19 AM
Hello Sopranina! I first heard Hangad sa net...may soundclip kasi nung song nila na Pagbabasbas. I was really impressed kasi we sing that song sa simbahan, tapos Hangad did it a cappella with a really fantastic arrangement. So I bought a tape. I first heard them live nung ni-launch nila yung CD nila...sa UP theater eh...that was I think sometime around March or April(?)...I forgot na...pero grabe! The place was so jampacked! Kaya nga nag concert sila uli sa Ateneo Chapel. Mabait it yung pianist/arranger nila, si Paulo Tirol. He has his own unique style in arranging.

Im not from UST (hehe tinalo namin sila sa UAAP kahapon! sorry, alam ko this doesn't belong here =)) NOR am I from any chorale group. Meron akong good friend from the UST singers...s'ya nag-email sa akin. Anyway, as I said a 4rth is not bad considering the nature of the competition. Baka siguro dahil their sound is on the vibrato school...eh i feel na this is not en vogue in Europe na...ewan, most professional European choirs are straight tone, tulad ng Cambridge Singers ni Rutter. I dunno, just an observation lang, kasi impressed talaga ako sa UST Singers and I felt they deserved to win as much as anyone else.

Anyway, baka sa payday i'll get ur CD na...yung live compilation...




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Monteverdi
Sep 25, 2000, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by dagobert:
Poulenc's Exultate Deo is a killer . . . grabe yang song na yan!


Alam mo, you should hear this boys choir from Westminster Cathedral sing that Poulenc song...hehehe, effortless...to think kids like that are taught to sing murderous intervals! They never lose their tuning!

I know it's a real killer! Kasi maraming nuances kailangan sa performance. Competition piece s'ya sa Spittal nung '95 diba? Kasi the song will reveal a choir's virtuousity, tone shading skills, stamina, dynamics, etc...

Basta mahirap talaga sya...

Have you heard Poulenc's Figure Humaine (secular works)? If Exultate Deo was a killer, ewan ko kung ano 'to...

Monteverdi
Sep 25, 2000, 10:50 AM
Bocelli, I have pala the score of Poulenc's Mass in G...including that Gloria and Sanctus that you're probably talking about...

Paano ko kaya padala sa 'yo?

I thought kasi you were looking for Poulenc's other Gloria...the one with orchestral/string accompaniment, and with different movements...

Boccelli
Sep 25, 2000, 11:22 PM
sopranina... I want to get the Double CD... can I possibly get it from Me-Ann by November or will you guys be off to Tolosa by then?

Monteverdi... I'll get it from you when I get back from Chicago...I'll be in Manila for the Miss Saigon staging. Perhaps during that time I would be able to get the copies from you. Actually pwedeng bigay mo na lang kay Sir or kay AJ para naman i-refer niya kay sir at ng ma-aral na namin.... excited na akong kumanta ng isang Poulenc piece.. sana yung Agnus Dei...bagay kasi yun kay Liaa eh.... lutang na lutang ang boses niya dun!

As soon as I get the CDs i bought i will try to post links to their MP3s okler......

GUSTO KO NANG BUMALIK AT KUMANTA..... WAAAAAAAAA

sopranina
Sep 26, 2000, 12:37 AM
Monteverdi: Ah, so dun mo pala sila narinig!

Sorry, ha, di ko kasi sinusubaybayan ang UAAP kaya wala akong alam. What school ka kamo? Bongga mo naman kasi kahit you're not from any choral group ang dami mong alam sa mga history ek-ek ng mga songs. Sino yung friend mo sa AS (UST Singers)? I'm pretty close to a number of people there myself. Did you see their webpage (the updated one) by jbmusic? Namiss ko sila bigla nung nakita ko yun. Hmm, pwede ngang dahil sa reason na sinabi mo kaya they placed 4th. Pwede rin sigurong reason yung repertoire. What songs did they sing ba? And di naman natin malalaman unless sila mismo yung magsabi, diba? I wanted them to win! Imagine, nagkita na kami doon ng mga kaibigan namin, we could've watched each other's performances and given our observations about the performances, tapos kung yung isa yung nanalo, wagi pa rin kasi parehong galing sa Pinas! Yung tinext sa akin before sabi Vilnius choir daw yung first. If I'm not mistaken, twice nang nag European Grand Prix yung choir na yun. Argh!!! Makakalaban namin sila next year!!! Prayers po, please!

Yehey, bibili ka ng CD! Sige, hintayin ko e-mail mo. :)

sopranina
Sep 26, 2000, 12:50 AM
To Boccelli:

Yehey, another buyer!! hehe. Me-Ann? You must mean May Ann, our president. :) Do you two know each other ba? What day in November will you be here? We'll be back from Tolosa by the 6th. Hey, you know what Mr. Boccelli, I've seen you na before. I was there when the GC sang in your chapel last December 1999. I saw you din before before pa in Glorietta kaya lang I was too dyahe to say hi. You don't know me naman, eh, plus I only know you by face. You're one of the soloists of the Chorale, right?

Boccelli
Sep 26, 2000, 07:15 AM
Yup, i was one of the soloists for the Chorale.... i loved your performance last year when you came over... too bad wala tayo masyadong interaction nung night na yon.... some sort of tension or friction ... i don't think so.. Nagkakahiyaan lang siguro... well at least because of this forum we could interact na!!!

PEOPLE.... i posted the Exultate Deo by Poulenc as interepreted by RIAS-Kammerchor... as soon as i receive the World Symposium CD i'll let you guys hear more songs!!


Here's the website again.....

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/chiuman98

its under the Choral Performances folder!!!

Monteverdi
Sep 26, 2000, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by sopranina
Monteverdi: Ah, so dun mo pala sila narinig!

Sorry, ha, di ko kasi sinusubaybayan ang UAAP kaya wala akong alam. What school ka kamo? Bongga mo naman kasi kahit you're not from any choral group ang dami mong alam sa mga history ek-ek ng mga songs. Sino yung friend mo sa AS (UST Singers)? I'm pretty close to a number of people there myself. Did you see their webpage (the updated one) by jbmusic? Namiss ko sila bigla nung nakita ko yun. Hmm, pwede ngang dahil sa reason na sinabi mo kaya they placed 4th. Pwede rin sigurong reason yung repertoire. What songs did they sing ba? And di naman natin malalaman unless sila mismo yung magsabi, diba? I wanted them to win! Imagine, nagkita na kami doon ng mga kaibigan namin, we could've watched each other's performances and given our observations about the performances, tapos kung yung isa yung nanalo, wagi pa rin kasi parehong galing sa Pinas! Yung tinext sa akin before sabi Vilnius choir daw yung first. If I'm not mistaken, twice nang nag European Grand Prix yung choir na yun. Argh!!! Makakalaban namin sila next year!!! Prayers po, please!

Yehey, bibili ka ng CD! Sige, hintayin ko e-mail mo. :)



I graduated from DLSU (1997).

Im a big fan of choral music and anything a cappella in general...kahit Take 6 trip ko. Im looking for jazz choirs nowadays kasi mas gusto kong pag-aralan yung chords na ginagamit nila. I do arrange religious songs for our parish choir...ek ek! Kaya yung mga recessional songs namin usually may "shooby-doo-wap!"...hehehe!

Si Peter yung friend ko sa UST. Before they left, he told me aaralin nila yung Gloria ni Ryan Cayabyab for Arezzo. I dunno kung natuloy yon. Their folk/ethnic is Mamayog, Pokpok, Tirindingding, Tinig ng lupa (at least yun sa Spittal). I saw their webpage too...grabe! gusto ko ring bumili ng CD nila! Malapit na nga raw silang umuwi eh...

Lithuanian choir nga yung first sa Arezzo...Vilnius Municipal Chamber Choir. 1993 European Grand Prix winner as well as first prize winners in Gorizia, Cork, Spittal, Debrechen, Neuchatel, Varna, Cantonigros, etc...

I heard somewhere na state funded pa nga yung mga choirs ng Balkan states (I think that includes Lithuania), so semi-professional malamang ang Vilnius Choir...

Di ko kayo tinatakot ha! Kaya n'yo yan! It's all about looking for that EDGE that will make your choir different. GOODLUCK AGC!

Now where did i keep that novena to St. James...

Monteverdi
Sep 26, 2000, 02:00 PM
TO BOCCELLI:

You know, if you like RIAS Kammerchor, get their Bach Motets CD. Galing talaga nun. I bought that CD here for P250 lang sa Tower. Ewan, siguro sale ng label (Harmonia Mundi) because it's Bach year (250th death anniv. ng orig na big hair artist). Pero kahit mura lang yung CD, I treat it like it is a treasure kasi sobrang galing!!!

Im looking forward to the release of their Mendelssohn album sometime this October. Ano kaya tunog nun?

Yung Monteverdi Choir ni Sir John Eliot Gardiner virtuoso rin! Look for their Messiah (listen to "Let us break their bonds" sobrang bilis!) and Dixit Dominus (both works by Handel).

Poulenc's Mass in G was actually performed by the Philippine Chamber Choir last Feb. sa Bamboo Organ Festival, though I wasn't able to watch it.

I agree with you bagay kay Liaa yung soprano solo ng Agnus Dei from Poulenc's Mass in G.

Pwede bang magpabili ng CD sa 'yo? hehehe...biro lang! I want to complete my Cambridge Singers collection kasi eh...esp. their William Byrd and Poulenc recordings...hay!!! kailan pa kaya magkakaroon ng Collegium Records dito?

Basta, tell me when you're here para we can meet uli ok?

juravit
Sep 26, 2000, 08:10 PM
sopranina: i want to buy your 1k worth CD also. collectors item naman eh. kaya lang where can i get it? sayang bibili sana ako after ng concert n'yo sa CCP kaya lang wala akong dalang money.

bochelli: (tama ba spelling?) hope you could join the chorale's Feb concert. BTW, they have a pre x-mas concert. Same venue... repertoire?... malamang same pa din.... ang walang kamatayang 12 days, first noel, etc.

monteverdi: when can i get the pieces (mass songs)?... sama mo na yoong mga arrangements mo and that of AJ's.

PEOPLE: have you heard "AGEGIS"? Sana the chorale would sing yoong ibang songs nila.

Boccelli
Sep 27, 2000, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by Monteverdi
TO BOCCELLI:

You know, if you like RIAS Kammerchor, get their Bach Motets CD. Galing talaga nun. I bought that CD here for P250 lang sa Tower. Ewan, siguro sale ng label (Harmonia Mundi) because it's Bach year (250th death anniv. ng orig na big hair artist). Pero kahit mura lang yung CD, I treat it like it is a treasure kasi sobrang galing!!!

Im looking forward to the release of their Mendelssohn album sometime this October. Ano kaya tunog nun?

Yung Monteverdi Choir ni Sir John Eliot Gardiner virtuoso rin! Look for their Messiah (listen to "Let us break their bonds" sobrang bilis!) and Dixit Dominus (both works by Handel).

Poulenc's Mass in G was actually performed by the Philippine Chamber Choir last Feb. sa Bamboo Organ Festival, though I wasn't able to watch it.

I agree with you bagay kay Liaa yung soprano solo ng Agnus Dei from Poulenc's Mass in G.

Pwede bang magpabili ng CD sa 'yo? hehehe...biro lang! I want to complete my Cambridge Singers collection kasi eh...esp. their William Byrd and Poulenc recordings...hay!!! kailan pa kaya magkakaroon ng Collegium Records dito?

Basta, tell me when you're here para we can meet uli ok?



I don't believe it.. they're selling the CDs that cheap.. eh here kasi its sooo expensive... grabe... one time nga samahan mo ako kasi its hard to find cds jan sa manila.... hindi kasi properly categorized yung collections nila eh..

Uy pasabi na lang kay AJ na sabihin kay Sir Boy na dapat aralin ng Chorale yung Mass in G. Bad trip ako kasi diba I bought RIAS' Poulenc CD eh meron na pala akong Poulenc na CD.... nakakainis!!!!!

I will be awaiting that Mendelsohn CD of RIAS then.... iba yung interpretation nila nung Mass in G kasya dun sa isa kong CD... mas gusto ko yung sa isa.... i forgot kung aling Choir yun..


By the way.. PEOPLE

BIRTHDAY KO TODAY(Sept 26)....

sopranina
Sep 27, 2000, 02:26 AM
Originally posted by juravit
sopranina: i want to buy your 1k worth CD also. collectors item naman eh. kaya lang where can i get it? sayang bibili sana ako after ng concert n'yo sa CCP kaya lang wala akong dalang money.


Hi, there! You can get it from any member of the GC. We can meet up sometime if you want. Kaya lang you will have to wait pa until mga October 13. Nagpa-reproduce pa kami, eh. Kaya lang di pa pwede sa Oct 14 and 15 kasi nasa Subic kami at that time. Post something here nalang or email me whatever plan you have, ok? Thanks!

sopranina
Sep 27, 2000, 02:35 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BOCCELLI!!!

Blue Knight
Sep 27, 2000, 03:24 AM
well....

I think UST...no doubt but aside from this UP Madz are high caliber performers too.

For the others....sige practice pa hanggang maputol ang litid sa leeg......lol

Monteverdi
Sep 27, 2000, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Boccelli

I don't believe it.. they're selling the CDs that cheap.. eh here kasi its sooo expensive... grabe... one time nga samahan mo ako kasi its hard to find cds jan sa manila.... hindi kasi properly categorized yung collections nila eh..

Uy pasabi na lang kay AJ na sabihin kay Sir Boy na dapat aralin ng Chorale yung Mass in G. Bad trip ako kasi diba I bought RIAS' Poulenc CD eh meron na pala akong Poulenc na CD.... nakakainis!!!!!

I will be awaiting that Mendelsohn CD of RIAS then.... iba yung interpretation nila nung Mass in G kasya dun sa isa kong CD... mas gusto ko yung sa isa.... i forgot kung aling Choir yun..

By the way.. PEOPLE

BIRTHDAY KO TODAY(Sept 26)....



Hey man! Happy Birthday!

I dunno nga kung bakit sale yung CDs...You know they had Bach's St. Matthew Passion by Philip Herreweghe - 3 CDs PLUS CD ROM - P500.00 lang! I can't believe it nga eh! As in niloloko ko yung mga tao sa Tower Records kung pinamimigay nila yun! Hehehe...pero I think marketing strategy nga yun ng Harmonia Mundi ( the label). Pwede kitang samahan sa Tower...kaya lang, paano kung ubos na?

I'm looking for the Poulenc CD of the Cambridge Singers and by the Choir of Trinity College...maganda daw yun eh!

Anyhow, tell me pag nandito ka na para ma-libre mo lahat ng PExers na may alam ng birthday mo! hahaha!

Wag nalang Mass ni Poulenc...Yung kay Stravinsky nalang!!! hehehe!

JURAVIT...bakit ka nagpalit na pangalan? hehehe! Paano kung ayaw ni AJ mamigay ng arrangements niya?

Monteverdi
Sep 27, 2000, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by juravit

bochelli: (tama ba spelling?) hope you could join the chorale's Feb concert. BTW, they have a pre x-mas concert. Same venue... repertoire?... malamang same pa din.... ang walang kamatayang 12 days, first noel, etc.

monteverdi: when can i get the pieces (mass songs)?... sama mo na yoong mga arrangements mo and that of AJ's.

PEOPLE: have you heard "AGEGIS"? Sana the chorale would sing yoong ibang songs nila.



Alam mo, sana wag nalang kayo doon uli mag concert kasi hindi maganda ang acoustics ng chapel na yon (kahit maganda ang interior n'ya at air-conditioned). As if naman parang Westminster o Ely Cathedral ang tunog diba? It wasn't designed for choral performance...last time you had your concert there wala akong marinig...ang layo ng tunog...

Most of our religious arrangements are for SSA kasi...do you still want?

karen_c
Sep 27, 2000, 04:58 PM
BOCCCCEEEELLLLIIII!!!! happy birthday!!!! (although medyo late na) sa yo. patawarin sana kung di ako nakatawag sa yo. I wanted to pero di ko pa napapa-activate ang international roaming ko so di talaga kita matatawagan... at di rin ako makapagemail sa yo kasi alam mo naman na wala akong email talaga... =) anyway, sanay naging maligaya ang kaarawan mo... love you!!!

karen_c
Sep 27, 2000, 05:18 PM
JURAVIT? Where did you get your name? from the song? :) anyway, i think the group is named AEGIS and ive heard a few of their songs... medyo mahirap ata siyang kantahin ng choral groups kasi medyo matataas ang natural voice nung mga singers na baka kapag sinubukan ng mga female singers ng choirs eh maubusan ng boses ang mga to. May kilala ako na mataas ang natural niya pero i doubt kung abot pa niya yung mga tinitira ng singers ng AEGIS... grabe lang... at saka baka pag hindi nakanta siya sa way na kinanta ng AEGIS, di maging ganun kaganda yung effect... anyway, member ka ba ng DLSU chorale?

Boccelli
Sep 28, 2000, 02:20 AM
As promised the songs included in the 5th World Symposium on Choral Music Rotterdam 1999 CD....

Check them out at this webpage..

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/chiuman98

--->under Choral Performances

have fun.. and post your comments!

Monteverdi
Sep 28, 2000, 08:38 AM
TO KAREN_C:

Kilala mo yang Juravit kasi lagi mo yang kasama sa practice. BTW, I know na kung sino ka...you're a kind soul. Do you remember/recognize me perhaps?

juravit
Sep 28, 2000, 11:11 AM
Bochelli: Happy Birthday!!! Uy, sorry nakalimutan ko. It's better late than never. Ano nga yong site ng World Symposium? Yoon lang ba yoong songs ng Chorale na naisama? How much naman is the CD? Ano, sali ka sa concert ng Chorale this December?

Monteverdi: papayag si AJ! Kahit na SSA okay lang.

Sopranina: Goodluck sa performance niyo sa Subic! Sige, kita na lang tayo somewhere, sana hindi sa Ateneo... layo noon eh. what's your e-mail nga pala?

Karen_c: You are right re: AEGIS. Wala na nga pala si Claire...

juravit
Sep 28, 2000, 11:16 AM
Bochelli: Happy Birthday!!! Uy, sorry nakalimutan ko. It's better late than never. Ano nga yong site ng World Symposium? Yoon lang ba yoong songs ng Chorale na naisama? How much naman is the CD? Ano, sali ka sa concert ng Chorale this December?

Monteverdi: papayag si AJ! Kahit na SSA okay lang.

Sopranina: Goodluck sa performance niyo sa Subic! Sige, kita na lang tayo somewhere, sana hindi sa Ateneo... layo noon eh. what's your e-mail nga pala?

Karen_c: You are right re: AEGIS. Wala na nga pala si Claire...

sopranina
Sep 29, 2000, 01:42 AM
Boccelli: Thanks. Oo nga, we didn't have time to interact after the concert. Sayang. Was it during that time that you met May Ann? By the way, if you won't mind, what are you doing there in Chicago? Are you staying there for good? Did you graduate na and plan to take further studies there? Dami kong tanong. Sorry.

Hi, Monteverdi! Di ko kilala si Peter, eh. But do you know Nice Lim? Siya kasi yung pinaka kaclose ko dun. Nate-text ko pa sila at nakakatawag pa sila dito nung nasa Germany pa sila, before Arezzo. After that, wala nang communication dahil siguro every country, palit ng SIM card. I want to buy their CD, too!!! Excited na ako na makita at marinig sila. November 15 ang balik nila, if I remember correctly.

Argh! Ang bongga naman ng Vilnius choir! Hay, ewan! Daanin sa katakut-takut na practice (!), dasal... winner make-up at false eyelashes! Hehe. :p

Juravit: Sige let's meet (reminder lang po, after Oct.13 pa, ok?) somewhere so you can get the CDs. My e-mail addy is reens@eudoramail.com. E-mail me nalang where you want to meet. Wag lang super layo na tipong sa Taft (hehe, sorry) kasi baka ma-late ako sa rehearsal namin at patayin ako ng conductor namin! By the way, salamat sa pag-good luck mo for our Subic performance. God bless!

Boccelli
Sep 29, 2000, 01:55 AM
Originally posted by juravit
Bochelli: Happy Birthday!!! Uy, sorry nakalimutan ko. It's better late than never. Ano nga yong site ng World Symposium? Yoon lang ba yoong songs ng Chorale na naisama? How much naman is the CD? Ano, sali ka sa concert ng Chorale this December?

Monteverdi: papayag si AJ! Kahit na SSA okay lang.

Sopranina: Goodluck sa performance niyo sa Subic! Sige, kita na lang tayo somewhere, sana hindi sa Ateneo... layo noon eh. what's your e-mail nga pala?

Karen_c: You are right re: AEGIS. Wala na nga pala si Claire...



No problem juravit... teka lang... hindi ko tuloy alam kung sino ka.. nagpalit ka ba ng name or ikaw ba si Rachelle alejandro look alike or yung feeling Julia Roberts look alike.. heheheheheh

yes.. im going to join the December concert.... basta may solo ako ha.. hehehehehehehehe



SOPRANINA: to answer your questions, Im here in Chicago for work I'll be back in Manila in a month. I would like to stay here and take my MBA at UC but I can't... bad trip nga eh!..
I got to know May Ann 1998 pa when she was with her friend when they watched the Philippine International Choral Festival.

GUYS... JUST CLICK ON THE LINK I POSTED.... tapos PASOK KAYO SA FOLDER WITH THE NAME "Choral Performances"

ok.. http://briefcase.yahoo.com/chiuman98

juravit
Sep 29, 2000, 11:47 AM
bOCHELLI: Hay naku, ikaw talaga, none of the two that you mentioned. It's good that you can join the group in their christmas concert. sige hula ka pa kung sino ako. 5.....4.....3.....2.....1...... BTW, yoong favorite mo na song na "Tanguendo" sa wakas kakantahin na ng Chorale. Tamang tama since you're joing this X-mas.

Clue: Oprah.... siguro naman you know me na.... hehehe

Boccelli
Sep 30, 2000, 03:09 AM
Originally posted by juravit
bOCHELLI: Hay naku, ikaw talaga, none of the two that you mentioned. It's good that you can join the group in their christmas concert. sige hula ka pa kung sino ako. 5.....4.....3.....2.....1...... BTW, yoong favorite mo na song na "Tanguendo" sa wakas kakantahin na ng Chorale. Tamang tama since you're joing this X-mas.

Clue: Oprah.... siguro naman you know me na.... hehehe



Omigod... ikaw pala.... i didn't know!!! Kakagulat ha.. very ka na pala ngayon at may i internet ka na jan!! hehehehehe

Kamusta na ang work? I hope everything is fine.... jojoin ka pa ba sa chorale(if ur not part of it anymore) or are you still with the group. Hintayin mo naman ako oh!....

Dinounload mo na ba yung songs natin na pinost ko sa internet.... it was our performance in De Doeln sa Rotterdam... Maganda siya... alam mo galing talaga ng Inchun Choir na yan.. and ito pa... there was this Russian Ensembles pala nung World Symposium, siyempre gagayahin ko nanaman sila singing Matona Mia!!... heheheheheheh

Miss you na rin!!.... Win na win pagdating ko jan.. go na go ako!!!!...

See you soon!

Zack
Oct 1, 2000, 06:14 PM
Bocelli:
Galing talaga! na download ko lahat ng songs dun sa website! more songs to come! i've some mp3s of madrigal singers kaso di ko magawang available sa internet kasi bawal ata dahil may copyright eh...
Bravo! Bocelli! Bravo!

L'arsom
Oct 2, 2000, 01:47 AM
Ahheemmmm... Excuse me, makasali nga. I just hope that the commentators do actually have an idea of what they are talking about. It's sad because some choirs tag themselves some fancy-sounding titles from competitions that are actually not the most prestigious. The TEST of the BEST is the European Grand Prix. If you guys never heard of it, then maybe you haven't been looking far beyond your nose. Please research!!!!!!! Don't just depend on Philippine publicity. Too much publicity builds false popularity, sometimes only to find out "no bacon on coming home". tsk.tsk.Sad.
The Philippine Madrigal Singers IS the first and ONLY Filipino choir to have won A-L-L (all five, I'm not exaggerating) the TOP prizes in order to qualify for the EUROPEAN GRAND PRIX. The last one being the Tolosa Grand Prix in 1996. This brought them to Tours, France and won the 1997 European Grand Prix. The Championship. Being the champions in 1997 they were banned from entering any competition in five years. 2002 pa po! They need not decide not to join any competition, they were BANNED as 1997 Champions nga! Got it? Talk about Prestige! UST DID qualify for the European Grand Prix when they won in Tolosa! Sadly, they did not make it. And if they do in the future, it would be "take two" for them. sorry, but that's reality. As for the Ateneo Glee Club, I'm cheering for you. Go, go, get it. Winning in Tours, France qualified them to compete for the 2000 European Grand Prix. Go, go ACGC! Go Rina, lead the Sopranos! Hwag magpa-api!
Elijah, you said UST has nothing to prove? Or you mean can't prove? Right now that pressure lies on the shoulders of ACGC-- do well in October. We're praying for you!!!! The MADZ is an institution, and it has prooven that in the past. Now it's your turn.
As for the spectators and commentators from the outside world, before you exalt some ambitious choral group, do some research first. PLease?
The Ateneo Glee Club did prove themselves in their last tour. Kudos Prof. Joel Navarro, one of my respected, fav. teachers in conducting, next to Eudy and Jojo, of course. At sa nang-aapi sa UP Concert Chorus, ano na nga ang boses ni Prof. Joel Navarro noon sa UPCC? Basta alam ko nagkikita kami sa UPCC Alumni gatherings.
And lastly, let me remind you dearies that some of those year-2000- awards (of ACGC) were won by Jojo Velasco, a former Madrigal himself. Well, need I say more? I rest my case.

Originally posted by ReTiCeNt
Originally posted by elijah:

before...U.P. Madrigal.

ngayon...UNIVERSITY OF SANTO TOMAS SINGERS na! Having won the almost all of the grandest titles in the Best and the Hardest Musical Chorale Competitions in Europe and Germany and recently have gained the title of being the BEST choir in the world (the CHOIR OF THE WORLD TITLE) in Spain.

kung aayusin natin ang pagkakasunod-sunod:

1.UST Singers (being the CHOIR OF THE WORLD)
2.UP Madrigal (won titles in int'l compt'ns)
3.ATENEO COLLEGE GLEE CLUB (being the oldest)
4.others...(including DLSU Chorale...having won some titles in some competition somewhere overseas.)

Kayo...sino sa palagay n'yo?



FYI:
The Ateneo College Glee Club has just been tagged as the 2000 World's Chorale Champion.

juravit
Oct 2, 2000, 09:16 AM
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Omigod... ikaw pala.... i didn't know!!! Kakagulat ha.. very ka na pala ngayon at may i internet ka na jan!! hehehehehe


Kamusta na ang work? I hope everything is fine.... jojoin ka pa ba sa chorale(if ur not part of it anymore) or are you still with the group. Hintayin mo naman ako oh!....


yup... actually, i miss singing kasi it's in my system already. Sure, nasabi na namin kay sir Boy that you're joining us sa X-mas concert. Happy naman kami dahil pati si Leo kakanta daw. :)


Dinounload mo na ba yung songs natin na pinost ko sa internet.... it was our performance in De Doeln sa Rotterdam... Maganda siya... alam mo galing talaga ng Inchun Choir na yan.. and ito pa... there was this Russian Ensembles pala nung World Symposium, siyempre gagayahin ko nanaman sila singing Matona Mia!!... heheheheheheh

...hindi pa kasi walang sound card yoong computer ko.... sayang nga eh... anyway, magkano ba yoong CD ng World Symposium?


Miss you na rin!!.... Win na win pagdating ko jan.. go na go ako!!!!...

See you soon!


... see you soon!
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Monteverdi
Oct 2, 2000, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by L'arsom
Ahheemmmm... Excuse me, makasali nga. I just hope that the commentators do actually have an idea of what they are talking about. It's sad because some choirs tag themselves Champions nga! Got it?....etc, etc, etc...

As for the spectators and commentators from the outside world, before you exalt some ambitious choral group, do some research first. PLease?

[/QUOTE]

Actually, true fans of choral music don't pay much attention to competitions. Consistency in choral excellence is a HARD FEAT. Even the MADZ have experienced that. Remember after sweeping most of the European competitions circa 1989-1991, they went on another European tour in 1994...critics and fans where surprised that their sound wasn't up to par. In one song, The Prayer of St. Francis [their signature song], they even dropped pitch! Towards the end they fell flat a half step to c#. Every choral enthusiast knows this song is arranged in D major...[cf. 1994 MADZ EUROPE TOUR CD, track #17]. Being in tune especially in a difficult work is a very basic yet essential criteria in choral excellence.

Now, see? A champion doesn't mean forever kang magaling. True, the MADZ did change members...kaya nga siguro that Elijah guy said magaling sila dati.

Don't get me wrong. I'm a very big MADZ fan...I attend all their concerts and scour for every single CD that they have released...kahit mga bootlegs ng competitions and concerts nila abroad.

Choral competitions are more difficult now because many European choirs are adopting our style of more expressive singing...with better/smoother legato phrasings...(linya!). I guess legacy na ng MADZ yan. So I couldn't care less if another Filipino choir wins or not (pero sana manalo). But if not, winner pa rin sila kasi I know they faced a tougher field...for example, ACGC will face a difficult test against that multi-awarded Lithuanian chamber choir.

Choral singing is NOT an olympic sport! It is an art that must be appreciated and savored because of its own, intrinsic virtues and the values that it teaches those who indulge in the craft...

Furthermore, choral groups are definitely something that should not be pitted against each other like two basketball teams...they are unique entities in themselves...if you notice wala nang nagpopost ng comparisons dito lately cuz the PExers who write here have realized it na...TAPOS NA YAN! No professional choir in Europe joins any of the competitions you mentioned. So then these choralfests are not true benchmarks of the so called "Choir of the World" title kasi useless and hollow ang basehan dahil hindi lahat ng magagaling na grupo sa Europe kasali.

Each choir is unique! If you want to say something good about your fave choir, do it NOT at the expense of another group! Let your choir stand on its own merits, diba?!

Each group has its own art to pursue, its own standard to attain...fans lang tayong lahat kaya let's support them all!!!





[Edited by Monteverdi on 10-02-2000 at 10:35 AM]

juravit
Oct 2, 2000, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by Monteverdi
Originally posted by L'arsom
Ahheemmmm... Excuse me, makasali nga. I just hope that the commentators do actually have an idea of what they are talking about. It's sad because some choirs tag themselves Champions nga! Got it?....etc, etc, etc...

As for the spectators and commentators from the outside world, before you exalt some ambitious choral group, do some research first. PLease?



Actually, true fans of choral music don't pay much attention to competitions. Consistency in choral excellence is a HARD FEAT. Even the MADZ have experienced that. Remember after sweeping most of the European competitions circa 1989-1991, they went on another European tour in 1994...critics and fans where surprised that their sound wasn't up to par. In one song, The Prayer of St. Francis [their signature song], they even dropped pitch! Towards the end they fell flat a half step to c#. Every choral enthusiast knows this song is arranged in D major...[cf. 1994 MADZ EUROPE TOUR CD, track #17]. Being in tune especially in a difficult work is a very basic yet essential aspect in choral excellence.

Now, see? A champion doesn't mean forever kang magaling. True, the MADZ did change members...kaya nga siguro that Elijah guy said magaling sila dati.

Don't get me wrong. I'm a very big MADZ fan...I attend all their concerts and scour for every single CD that they have realesed...kahit mga bootleg ng competitions and concerts nila abroad.

Competitions are more difficult now because many European choirs are adopting our style of more expressive singing...with better/smoother legato phrasings...(linya!). I guess legacy na ng MADZ yan. So I couldn't care less if another Filipino choir wins or not (pero sana manalo). But if not, winner pa rin sila kasi I know they faced a tougher field...for example, ACGC will face a difficult test against that multi-awarded Lithuanian chamber choir.

Choral singing is not an olympic sport! It is an art that must be appreciated and savored.

Furthermore, choral groups are definitely something that should not be pitted against each other like two basketball teams...they are unique entities in themselves...if you notice wala nang nagpopost ng comparisons dito lately cuz the PExers who write here have realized it na...TAPOS NA YAN! Each choir is unique! If you want to say something good about your fave choir, do it NOT at the expense of another group! Let your choir stand on its own merits!

Each group has its own art to pursue, its own standard to attain...fans lang tayong lahat kaya let's support them all!!!



[/QUOTE]


...GOOD! Well said, Monteverdi!

North_Halsted
Oct 2, 2000, 03:14 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by L'arsom
Ahheemmmm... Excuse me, makasali nga. I just hope that the commentators do actually have an idea of what they are talking about. It's sad because some choirs tag themselves some fancy-sounding titles from competitions that are actually not the most prestigious. The TEST of the BEST is the European Grand Prix. If you guys never heard of it, then maybe you haven't been looking far beyond your nose. Please research!!!!!!! Don't just depend on Philippine publicity. Too much publicity builds false popularity, sometimes only to find out "no bacon on coming home". tsk.tsk.Sad.
The Philippine Madrigal Singers IS the first and ONLY Filipino choir to have won A-L-L (all five, I'm not exaggerating) the TOP prizes in order to qualify for the EUROPEAN GRAND PRIX. The last one being the Tolosa Grand Prix in 1996. This brought them to Tours, France and won the 1997 European Grand Prix. The Championship. Being the champions in 1997 they were banned from entering any competition in five years. 2002 pa po! They need not decide not to join any competition, they were BANNED as 1997 Champions nga! Got it? Talk about Prestige! UST DID qualify for the European Grand Prix when they won in Tolosa! Sadly, they did not make it. And if they do in the future, it would be "take two" for them. sorry, but that's reality. As for the Ateneo Glee Club, I'm cheering for you. Go, go, get it. Winning in Tours, France qualified them to compete for the 2000 European Grand Prix. Go, go ACGC! Go Rina, lead the Sopranos! Hwag magpa-api!
Elijah, you said UST has nothing to prove? Or you mean can't prove? Right now that pressure lies on the shoulders of ACGC-- do well in October. We're praying for you!!!! The MADZ is an institution, and it has prooven that in the past. Now it's your turn.
As for the spectators and commentators from the outside world, before you exalt some ambitious choral group, do some research first. PLease?
The Ateneo Glee Club did prove themselves in their last tour. Kudos Prof. Joel Navarro, one of my respected, fav. teachers in conducting, next to Eudy and Jojo, of course. At sa nang-aapi sa UP Concert Chorus, ano na nga ang boses ni Prof. Joel Navarro noon sa UPCC? Basta alam ko nagkikita kami sa UPCC Alumni gatherings.
And lastly, let me remind you dearies that some of those year-2000- awards (of ACGC) were won by Jojo Velasco, a former Madrigal himself. Well, need I say more? I rest my case.

[QUOTE]

Hi, I just want to react on your post. :)

1. If you read the past posts it was decided that the Madz is no longer included in the options just because of the simple fact that they are in a league of their own already. They've unofficially become the "Official" choir of the Philippines, hence, The Philippine Madrigal Singers.

2. I love the MADZ, UST, DLSU Chorale and ACGC, but please don't make negative comments about accomplishments made by any of these groups. You are right about the MADZ winning the top prizes in the 5 Grand Prix competitions, Gorizia, Varna, Arezzo, Tours and Tolosa, which means they represented the five competitions already(if it did happen) which means it took them five competitions before they got the European Grand Prix(don't know if im right).

3. There are choirs which are closer to certain Philippine choral groups because of their unique sound. The Organizers of the Aberdeen Choral Festival/Competition has always had great relationship with the UPCC. SNK and Musica Mundi is very close to the DLSU Chorale because of their outstanding performances in 1995 which is why they proved to be the choir they did admire by representing Southeast Asia in the 5th World Symposium on Choral Music. Mind you, the DLSU Chorale has been constantly hounded by the organizers of Tolosa for years now because they want the Chorale to represent them in the Grand Prix.

Now, its ACGCs year to shine again!.... last year DLSU Chorale, the Year before UST Singers.......

The MADZ is the model choir of these university choral groups.

Monteverdi
Oct 2, 2000, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by North_Halsted

I love the MADZ, UST, DLSU Chorale and ACGC, but please don't make negative comments about accomplishments made by any of these groups. You are right about the MADZ winning the top prizes in the 5 Grand Prix competitions, Gorizia, Varna, Arezzo, Tours and Tolosa, which means they represented the five competitions already(if it did happen) which means it took them five competitions before they got the European Grand Prix(don't know if im right).

The MADZ is the model choir of these university choral groups.



I think it didn't necessarily take the MADZ five competitions in order to qualify and win the Grand Prix...baka wala pang European Choral Grand Prix nung 1989. Please check lang kasi I can't seem to find anything to confirm that...

Hmmm...model choir? in what way? in terms of choral tone? or bec. other choirs are trying to achieve what they have accomplished?

whoopie
Oct 2, 2000, 06:41 PM
hey there! hay naku, akala ko pa naman tapos na ang tirahan dito sa thread na 'to!=( Peace na lang lahat. Lahat naman TAYO magagaling eh ;)Anyway,

2Bocelli: Grabe ka lang, inggit kami sa 'yo kasi may WSCM CD ka na! Galing ba? Balik ka na pls?! We miss you na eh! Oh no, babalik ka na, di pa rin ako nakikipag-date! Shucks, uy kakausapin mo ko ah!

2Juravit: Sino kang nagmamaganda ka? Hehe....Promise, di kita kilala.

Hello na lang to everyone!!=)

Boccelli
Oct 2, 2000, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by whoopie
hey there! hay naku, akala ko pa naman tapos na ang tirahan dito sa thread na 'to!=( Peace na lang lahat. Lahat naman TAYO magagaling eh ;)Anyway,

2Bocelli: Grabe ka lang, inggit kami sa 'yo kasi may WSCM CD ka na! Galing ba? Balik ka na pls?! We miss you na eh! Oh no, babalik ka na, di pa rin ako nakikipag-date! Shucks, uy kakausapin mo ko ah!

2Juravit: Sino kang nagmamaganda ka? Hehe....Promise, di kita kilala.

Hello na lang to everyone!!=)

Aba.. you have to keep ur promise na you have to go out on a date.. 21 ka na.... baka naman gusto mong ihanap pa kita ng date?

Anywho... kilala mo si Juravit..... just think.... date counselling in Century Park Sheraton.... kilala mo na?

sopranina
Oct 3, 2000, 02:28 AM
To L'arsom: Heya, girl! Hala lagot, ka... you created quite a stir beacuse of your post. Mukhang napataas ng kilay ang mga tao dito dahil dun. Si Sir Joel yata ang section head ng basses ng UPCC nung time niya, if I'm not mistaken (JohnnyBBad, help me out here, please.) How are you na ba? Tuloy ka ba Nov.1-12 sa you-know-where?

Monteverdi: Hi, there! Here's something that may be of interest to you, and the others as well-- the winners of the European Grand Prix(hanggang '98):

1989 in Arezzo, Italy-- Kammerkoret Hymnia(Copenhagen, Denmark)
1991 in Tours, France-- Choeur de Chambre du Conservatoire (Vilnius, Lithuania)
1992 in Gorizia, Italy-- St. Jacobs Kammarkör (Stockholm, Sweden)
1993 in Varna, Bulgaria-- Choeur Jauna Musika (Vilnius, Lithuania)
1994 in Tolosa, Spain-- The Mats Nilssons Vocal Ensemble (Stockholm, Sweden)
1995 in Arezzo, Italy-- Choeur Kallos (Tokyo, Japan)
1996 in Debrecen, Hungary-- Pro Musika Leanikar (Nyiregyhaza, Hungary)
1997 in Tours, France-- The Philippine Madrigal Singers (Quezon City, Philippines)
1998 in Gorizia, Italy-- The University of Mississipi Concert Singers (USA)

==
Shempre, ang ganda! Kung sino pa ang nagpost tungkol dun sa MADZ concert, siya pang hindi nakanood! Kainis talaga. I needed to study. May kinanta daw silang arrangement ng THE FIRST TIME I LOVED FOREVER. To those who were able to watch, kamusta yung show???

Monteverdi
Oct 3, 2000, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by sopranina
Monteverdi: Hi, there! Here's something that may be of interest to you, and the others as well-- the winners of the European Grand Prix(hanggang '98):

1989 in Arezzo, Italy-- Kammerkoret Hymnia(Copenhagen, Denmark)
1991 in Tours, France-- Choeur de Chambre du Conservatoire (Vilnius, Lithuania)
1992 in Gorizia, Italy-- St. Jacobs Kammarkör (Stockholm, Sweden)
1993 in Varna, Bulgaria-- Choeur Jauna Musika (Vilnius, Lithuania)
1994 in Tolosa, Spain-- The Mats Nilssons Vocal Ensemble (Stockholm, Sweden)
1995 in Arezzo, Italy-- Choeur Kallos (Tokyo, Japan)
1996 in Debrecen, Hungary-- Pro Musika Leanikar (Nyiregyhaza, Hungary)
1997 in Tours, France-- The Philippine Madrigal Singers (Quezon City, Philippines)
1998 in Gorizia, Italy-- The University of Mississipi Concert Singers (USA)



Huh? Akala ko ba MADZ lang ang Asian choir na nanalo ng European Grand Prix? Yung 1995 winner ba talagang Japanese choir?

Choeur Jauna Musika...that's the Lithuanian choir that I'm telling you about...may webpage sila, search for it na lang...

Alam mo, looking at this list...im so proud that one of our own is in there...ang sarap tignan! diba? The adjucators nga raw at that particular competition were astounded na nakaupo lang yung choir at walang conductor, given na chamber choir size sila nun...

Boccelli
Oct 3, 2000, 10:22 AM
Hey Monteverdi,

Can you enlighten mo on the differences of being a chamber choir and the other classifications. What are the other classifications and their distinguishing factors?

Sorry for being a little naive on this topic.

Thanks... =)


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Huh? Akala ko ba MADZ lang ang Asian choir na nanalo ng European Grand Prix? Yung 1995 winner ba talagang Japanese choir?

Choeur Jauna Musika...that's the Lithuanian choir that I'm telling you about...may webpage sila, search for it na lang...

Alam mo, looking at this list...im so proud that one of our own is in there...ang sarap tignan! diba? The adjucators nga raw at that particular competition were astounded na nakaupo lang yung choir at walang conductor, given na chamber choir size sila nun... [/QUOTE]

Monteverdi
Oct 3, 2000, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by Boccelli
Hey Monteverdi,

Can you enlighten mo on the differences of being a chamber choir and the other classifications. What are the other classifications and their distinguishing factors?

Sorry for being a little naive on this topic.

Thanks... =)



Actually, I feel that classifications are always being blurred. I had that question sometime ago rin...

ENSEMBLE/CONSORT --- 5 to 12 singers (basta talagang small group)
Ex. King's Singers! Chanticleer! A cappella praise!

*Barbershop quartet --- typically 4 old, american men =)
Indigenous to the US, but actually these are the model of those chipmunks and those singing rodents you can see in the movie Babe the pig. Very distinct sound and harmonies (octaves usually). Ladies groups are called sweet adelaides/doo-woop.

*Madrigal Singers --- 4 to 6 and not more than 12 (hehehe)! The madrigal is a renaissance court song sung for the aristocrats during dinners and entertainment of guests. Ideally one singer to a part. They sightread and are outstanding vocalists of the local court. They definitely sing sans a conductor. ex. Consort of Musicke (best interpreter of Monteverdi madrigals, especially with Emma Kirkby with them), Quink Vocal Ensemble, Deller Consort

*Jazz/Swing choir --- small group singing jazz standards and harmonizing with what else, jazz harmony. Distinct shooby-doo-wap sound and often with "scat" (nonsensical syllables). Often aided by sound system. ex. Take 6, Swingle Singers (ah, here we have a blur! They sing Classical Mozart instrumental tunes with scat!)

CHAMBER CHOIR --- 16 to 20 singers (pero up to 24 "authentic chamber pa")

A mixed choir for the small stage/hall. Typically employed for baroque compositions (i.e. Bach and Handel). I don't know exactly when the term chamber choir first became coined. I think Bach didn't even use the term. Chamber choirs are formed to exploit a particular choral tone, precision, or technique demanded by a certain class of repertoire.

For example, yung Philippine Chamber Choir...they are the leading exponents of Filipino avant-garde choral works.

Bakit ang RIAS Kammerchor more than 30? Ang PCC 33+? Some of these choirs originally started with a few members. As the group grew and as their repertoire demanded it, more members were accepted. Yung RIAS Kammerchor kasi originally Radio Choir yan ng RIAS (I think its a classical FM station in Berlin). Kaya siguro konti lang naman ang magkasya sa loob ng radio studio diba? hehehe...just postulating...

Ganun din ang MADZ...originally 8 lang sila nung 1963 diba?

CONCERT CHOIR or CHORUS --- 25 up; Typically 50 to a hundred singers
For those grand operas and 19th-20th cent. works. Very heavy use of vibrato (hehehe). Typical Carmina Burana choir! ex. London Symphony Chorus (they did that dark, Star Wars Episode 1 choral postulude).

*Show Choir --- any choir that normally sings with costume and has fancy choreography. Uso yan sa mga kindergarten groups (hihihi, just kidding!). Nung prep ako, I was part of my school's show choir, wearing a wierd indian outfit!

OTHER TERMS/TYPES...

Chorale --- not a classification! It's a german hymn of the 17th century. What Bach is known for.

Schola Cantorum --- "School of Singers." Your trained church/liturgical choir.

Cathedral Choir --- lay clerks (Adult Bass, Tenors, Countertenors) with boy sopranos. Mga English Choirs like King's College, Westminster, yung mga kumakanta ng Miserere Mei at Spem in Alium.

Unchanged choir --- boy's choir with unchanged, treble voices. ex. Vienna Boys Choir, Malaybalay Monastery Choir in Bukidnon

Glee Club --- A Glee is an English 4 part unaccompanied song for solo male voices popular during mid 1700s to mid 1800s. The top parts are for male alto. In Germany called Liedertafel. Sometimes sung chorally and rarely women were allowed to take the treble parts. Bec. male altos are rare now, women normally take over their parts. (See! Another blur!)

Specialist Choirs --- they sing nothing but a certain repertoire

*by Period --- Tallis Scholars (Renaissance sacred works), Anonymous 4 (Medieval chants), Hilliard Ensemble (Medieval-Renaissance polyphony)

*by Repertoire --- Moses Hogan Chorale (Afro-american spirituals. Don't say Negro!)

*by Voice type --- Mixed, Male, Female, Gay (Uso sa States yan!)

*Ethnic --- Usually afro-american and with accompanying percussion ensemble (Zap Mama?)

*Specialist sound --- Swingle Singers, Monks (Gregorian Chants)

O ayan, I think I made a term paper out of your question, hehehe...im so bored! My officemates think im doing something very important cuz I look so intense.

People, if you want to add...go ahead...

There's a page somewhere in the internet about choral history. Search for it kasi very informative s'ya.

Bocelli, I dont like your new Verdi album! Pavarotti pa rin! hehehe!

[Edited by Monteverdi on 10-03-2000 at 05:43 PM]

Monteverdi
Oct 3, 2000, 04:54 PM
Hey Boccelli!

Have you heard the group Anuna? They are a young Irish Chamber Choir na puro celtic ang repertoire. Think of them as Enya na choir! Ang galing!

For the longest time I've been baffled with the strange chords/harmonies they sing. Then I discovered somewhere na yung arranger/composer/director nila uses quarter steps in his choral writing! Can you believe that?! Quarter steps! How do you do that?

On the piano, a white key followed by a black key is a half step, i.e. C to C#. A QUARTER STEP is a smaller interval. I dunno kung paano gagawin sa keyboard yun...siguro special tuning or something.

Anyways, this choir sings in quarter steps and it's totally unbelievable how they do it and how they make it sound cool! Grabe! Sabi nga ni AJ gawa siya ng kanta na may quarter steps para kantahin ng chorale...hehehe! Sealing his reputation as a choir sadist! BTW, It's his birthday tom (Oct 4).

Look for their albums...yung Anuna (they sang the Blue Bird by Stanford here), Invocation (The first track is really great), and Omnis (Dulaman, an intense folk song with a time signature change almost every other measure!). Siguro sa World/New Age section ng Tower meron!

juravit
Oct 3, 2000, 06:08 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by sopranina
To L'arsom: Heya, girl! Hala lagot, ka... you created quite a stir beacuse of your post. Mukhang napataas ng kilay ang mga tao dito dahil dun. Si Sir Joel yata ang section head ng basses ng UPCC nung time niya, if I'm not mistaken (JohnnyBBad, help me out here, please.) How are you na ba? Tuloy ka ba Nov.1-12 sa you-know-where?

Monteverdi: Hi, there! Here's something that may be of interest to you, and the others as well-- the winners of the European Grand Prix(hanggang '98):

1989 in Arezzo, Italy-- Kammerkoret Hymnia(Copenhagen, Denmark)

... the DLSU Chorale had the chance to meet this choir during their 95 TOur. As a matter of fact, sa kanila galing yoong kinakanta ng Chorale na "All the Things" by ward Swingle. Yun lang! It's unfortunate that we lost the copy of their CD. :( Anyhow, they are great! But no one, in my opinion, can ever beat the sound of the "Jubilate Choir" from Hungary. Sana may makatrack down na internet site nila.

whoopie
Oct 3, 2000, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by Boccelli
Originally posted by whoopie
hey there! hay naku, akala ko pa naman tapos na ang tirahan dito sa thread na 'to!=( Peace na lang lahat. Lahat naman TAYO magagaling eh ;)Anyway,

2Bocelli: Grabe ka lang, inggit kami sa 'yo kasi may WSCM CD ka na! Galing ba? Balik ka na pls?! We miss you na eh! Oh no, babalik ka na, di pa rin ako nakikipag-date! Shucks, uy kakausapin mo ko ah!

2Juravit: Sino kang nagmamaganda ka? Hehe....Promise, di kita kilala.

Hello na lang to everyone!!=)

Aba.. you have to keep ur promise na you have to go out on a date.. 21 ka na.... baka naman gusto mong ihanap pa kita ng date?

Anywho... kilala mo si Juravit..... just think.... date counselling in Century Park Sheraton.... kilala mo na?



Kuya Bocelli, i didn't promise anything ha! Sabi ko try ko lang. Eh super busy ako kasi 2 thesis ko this term eh. Ang gaga ko no?! So what do you think? May time pa kaya ko makipag-date nyan?! Ganito na lang, ihanap mo ko tapos ayun ang ide-date ko. Yaiks! Feeling ko tuloy ang hopeless ko. So ano pala kung 21 na ko?! Anyway, basta balik ka na ha?....Hahahaha! Kilala ko na si Juravit. Natawa ko bigla sa clue mo. Oo nga pala, sobrang informative ng thread na to ah! Dami mo kasi tanong eh. Close na nga kayo ni Monteverdi eh. Well, sige na. Miss you na talaga. See ya!

Boccelli
Oct 3, 2000, 10:56 PM
Monteverdi... I would love to hear that group then. I have always had a fascination with Celtic Music... sabihin mo kay AJ pahirapan pa niya kami.. lalo na ngayon na medyo tumaas yung range ko.. hehehehehe.. i still have to get used to it though. I need to control the volume and the shifting pati opening ng bibig ko.. hahahahahahahahahahaha

Anywho....

Juravit... sana nakanenok ka ng recording ng Jubilate Girls na cd or tape no para marinig namin... hindi mo ba sila makita sa internet? oh well... go na go ako pagdating ko.. wait for me..!!!!

whoopie.... peste ka talaga pinapahirapan mo pa ako... now i'd have to think of who I'm gonna let you date.... ugh!!!! siyet....

Monteverdi.... you know you have to get to listen to the Korean choir i kept on telling you people... sobrang galing... kahit yung mga nagsosolo.. hindi sumosobra sa pitch unlike yung mga talagang soloista.. pero the singers still have that intensity and clean vibrato... galing nga eh.. sayang yung nasa CD ng WSCM may piano... kasi if i remember correctly they sang quite a few classical pieces.. i'd have to check the programme when i get back home... basta ang galing nila.. sana makahanap ako ng cd nila.... waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


ingats!!.. kudos to you all!!!

obi1
Oct 4, 2000, 02:24 AM
Ey Sopranina..gez who? I watched Madz nung 3 pm ( kc d pwede ng evening...*hint! hint!*). Ang geleng geleng. The song " The first time I loved forever" was great pero didnt quite enjoy the soloist.Finally! I heard Bituing walang ningning .. and I cant blame you crying and being moved by their rendition.Pamatay! As in..aghhkk!! and that encore song they did..with two solo sops. One of them(yung mukhang chinese), was undoubtedly THE diva.From stance to delivery.. sh*t!my undies were on FIRE!..pero mas magaling ka pa rin syempre! hehehe.

Boccelli
Oct 4, 2000, 02:52 AM
Grabe.. Im really intrigued by this Yanni Song ... i wanna hear it na talaga...

I can't wait to go back home and listen to all the great choirs we have.. ACGC.. kelan ang Homecoming concert niyo after Tolosa?? sana makanood kaming lahat.. PRESSURE.. hehehehehehehehehe.. don't worry we'll root for you all the way.. GOOD LUCK sa inyo!! Break a Leg.. or Throat.. or whatever... bring home the ham.. i mean bacon.. hehehehehhe

Galing talaga nating lahat!!!!!

Im still searching for that Celtic choir Monteverdi.. i wanna hear them!!!

Wala ka bang recording jan na pwedeng gawing MP3?

Monteverdi
Oct 4, 2000, 12:14 PM
Ey Boccelli!

Check my briefcase at yahoo below...

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/johnmonteverdi

I've selected the work DULAMAN from Anuna's third CD OMNIS. This is a short, fast Irish/Gaelic folk song about seaweeds! The thing that amazes me about this song is how the composer, Michael McGlynn (who is also Anuna's director), was able to seamlessly employ fast time signature changes in his compositition! Almost every measure iba ang beating! Galing!!! [note: this song can also be found in the Chanticleer CD WONDROUS LOVE]

I hope to upload the following performances soon:

Au Joly Jeu | Clement Janequin | King's Singers
Sing a Song of Sixpence | arr. John Rutter | Cambridge Singers
Sing Joyfully | William Byrd | Cambridge Singers
How Sweet it is to be Loved by You | Take 6
La Guerre (live) | Clement Janequin | King's Singers
Tinig ng Lupa | Ruben Federizon | MADZ batch 1989

There's a problem with our proxy that's why I can't beam this up at the moment...but I hope you do like that Dulaman song...

[Edited by Monteverdi on 10-04-2000 at 04:45 PM]

sopranina
Oct 5, 2000, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by Monteverdi

Huh? Akala ko ba MADZ lang ang Asian choir na nanalo ng European Grand Prix? Yung 1995 winner ba talagang Japanese choir?

Choeur Jauna Musika...that's the Lithuanian choir that I'm telling you about...may webpage sila, search for it na lang...

Alam mo, looking at this list...im so proud that one of our own is in there...ang sarap tignan! diba? The adjucators nga raw at that particular competition were astounded na nakaupo lang yung choir at walang conductor, given na chamber choir size sila nun...

Yup. I have a CD of that competition, yung time na nanalo yung MADZ... and in that CD is the list of winners of the European Grand Prix.

I know what you mean about seeing our country's name in the list. Sobrang nakaka-proud talaga! Kaya kailangan na talagang tigilan ang sobra sobrang pagbigay ng pondo sa sports, eh... hatiin man lang nila para sa sports AT music. It's part of us, we are a very musical people. Why do people fail to see that and still continue to give tooooo much attention on something that we aren't that good in? Kakasad lang.

Boccelli
Oct 5, 2000, 12:54 AM
Originally posted by sopranina
Yup. I have a CD of that competition, yung time na nanalo yung MADZ... and in that CD is the list of winners of the European Grand Prix.

I know what you mean about seeing our country's name in the list. Sobrang nakaka-proud talaga! Kaya kailangan na talagang tigilan ang sobra sobrang pagbigay ng pondo sa sports, eh... hatiin man lang nila para sa sports AT music. It's part of us, we are a very musical people. Why do people fail to see that and still continue to give tooooo much attention on something that we aren't that good in? Kakasad lang.

I totally agree sopranina.... I could never understand why the government gives so much focus on sports. What they should do is support the things which filipinos have been known for and that would be the arts. I wish they would give more grants to the artistic achievers of the country and give them the credit we deserve!

So guys.. what do you say to having an EB this December?? Kita kits tayo sa isang place to talk about whatever our heart desires.... tapos jamming session tayo with Monteverdi playing the piano or him conducting us to songs we all are familiar with....

By the way, who was able to listen to our WSCM Recordings?

Comments please... thanks!!

todd2
Oct 5, 2000, 01:15 AM
monteverdi: hello :) i dropped by the thread kasi i wanted to read what people had to say. i am a fan of our choirs. while going through the replies, i saw the link to your briefcase for a song called DULAMAN. thank you for kindly making that selection available to everyone at PEX. i dont know much about choral music; i just love listening, and listening to DULAMAN sure was a different experience for me. ang husay! again, thank you

Monteverdi
Oct 5, 2000, 09:44 AM
HELLO TO EVERYONE!

I was just able to upload SING A SONG OF SIXPENCE, an English folk song arranged by John Rutter. Check at the link below

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/johnmonteverdi

It's performed here by the Cambridge Singers. They are well known for singing Rutter's works as well as being leading exponents of straight tone singing (i.e. absolutely no vibrato). I just love their brilliant tone!

It's not hard to figure out why choirs love this song...it's challenging and very cheerful! hehehe! Nice example of 20th century counterpoint with subtle jazz rhythms...

This was also sung by the UST singers (on their 1999 CD), and very recently by the De La Salle University Chorale (during their anniv. concert).

***also just finished uploading Au Joly Jeu by the King's Singers! :)

Hope to upload the other songs soon :)

[Edited by Monteverdi on 10-05-2000 at 07:58 PM]

Monteverdi
Oct 5, 2000, 08:16 PM
TO BOCCELLI AND THE DLSU CHORALE:

GRABE!!! Just heard your rendition of Dungdunguen Canto...siguro 10 times na within the previous hour! Ang galing talaga ng sound n'yo!

What can I say? Very tingling execution of dynamics, from forte to subito piano! After listening to hundreds of choirs and ensembles from around the world, you guys are the only ones who are able to execute this kind of dynamics with a unique gracefullness. Hindi by the textbook ang pag vary ng shadings at dynamics. Siguro in this respect very comparable to the 89 MADZ. But then again, your sound is so unique...iba talaga ang pagpapatunog sa inyo (Galing din ni Sir!)...kasi from a different school of choral singing, hindi s'ya typical Filipino choral sound (which really emanated from UP). Yung soprano very European but really unmistakbly Filipino pa rin ang dating! Ang galing...naiiyak na ako! :)

Bocelli, I love that Finnish choir...narinig ko na sila sa MP3.com singing a Baltic folk song I think...matindi yung Pseudo-Yoik! Commissioned ata yan para sa kanila eh.

Pahiram ng CD mo pagdating mo ha! Di bale...may burner naman ako dito, hehehe :)

Boccelli
Oct 6, 2000, 02:27 AM
Hi People,

Thanks for the heart warming comments Monteverdi, don't worry when I get home I have a couple CDs from the WSCM... Interesting music.

i posted two of them the third one.. hindi kaya eh.. 5+Mb kasi eh.... paparinig ko na lang sa yo.. maganda pa naman yun kasi yun yung Inchon Choir na palagi kong binabanggit sa inyo.. galing nilang Chorus... malinis talaga... galing ng soprano na nagsolo... hindi masyadong diva-ish ang quality tamang tama lang ang vibrato... galing talaga.. anywho...
and nilagay ko na songs ay

El Hambo - i forgot the choir who sang this in the Symposium and

The Ritual Dance and The Joiku sang by the World Famous Tapiola Children's Choir.. sobrang interesting piece to...


enjoy..

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/dlsuchorale

ingats..

By the way in a few months concert na ng chorale..

Monteverdi
Oct 7, 2000, 10:01 PM
Hiya to all! :)

I have just added some more choral/a cappella performances in my yahoo briefcase. To date, these are the songs that you can download and play on your WINAMP/MP3 player:

DULAMAN by Anuna -- A fast Gaelic/Irish folksong involving constant time signature changes. Very nice indeed!

SING A SONG OF SIXPENCE by the Cambridge Singers

AU JOLY JEU by the King's Singers -- the world renowed ensemble render one of Clement Janequin's most popular 16th century chansons.

SING JOYFULLY by the Cambridge Singers -- William Byrds most popular English anthems (sacred). One of my fave Cambridge performances because of the exemplary choral tone.

TANGUEANDO by the Philippine Madrigal Singers -- Oscar Escalada's choral favorite sung during their 1994 Europe tour

click on the address below to download any of the files

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/johnmonteverdi

Enjoy! :):):)

sopranina
Oct 9, 2000, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by Boccelli

So guys.. what do you say to having an EB this December?? Kita kits tayo sa isang place to talk about whatever our heart desires.... tapos jamming session tayo with Monteverdi playing the piano or him conducting us to songs we all are familiar with....


Queyszhun lang po, Mr. Boccelli: is this for everyone? Game ako! Just tell me when and I'll see if I can make it. Thanksssss!

pyket
Oct 9, 2000, 08:52 AM
ACGC --- kelan farewell concert ninyo dito sa manila before leaving for tolosa??? balita ko may subic getaway pa raw kayo ah!!! i'm assuming naman na mayroon kayo right?

sopranina: kailangan kong mag-indulge --- hindi ko napanood yung madz the other sunday...

Monteverdi
Oct 9, 2000, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by Boccelli

So guys.. what do you say to having an EB this December?? Kita kits tayo sa isang place to talk about whatever our heart desires.... tapos jamming session tayo with Monteverdi playing the piano or him conducting us to songs we all are familiar with....



Duh! Makikinig na lang ako! Fan lang ako ninyo no! baka ako pa turuan nyo mag-conduct! hehehe! :) Tara! first song na gawin natin ay Exsultate Deo ni Poulenc! hahaha!

Pero sige Boccelli, sabihin mo lang pag dating mo dito!

Zack
Oct 9, 2000, 06:31 PM
Monteverdi:

Pwede pala maging available ang mga kanta ng MADZ eh.. i can donate some.. i really like their "Dang Mengalai" and their "Tula-Tula".. paano ko pede maging available to... baka kasi may copyright eh...

Monteverdi
Oct 10, 2000, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by Zack
Monteverdi:

Pwede pala maging available ang mga kanta ng MADZ eh.. i can donate some.. i really like their "Dang Mengalai" and their "Tula-Tula".. paano ko pede maging available to... baka kasi may copyright eh...

We are sharing files lang naman diba? We're not selling it naman right? It's like "hey Zack, record mo naman ako ng songs from your cd." Besides, yung mga songs that I posted were from albums that you can hardly find here in this country (bad trip nga eh!). Yung MADZ na CD di mo na nga mahanap yung iba.

Furthermore, I'm gonna take them off the briefcase after a while...para ibang songs at choirs naman ang ma-exposed!

Gawin mong MP3...may maliit akong program para d'yan, just tell me if you want I can email it to you.

BTW, anong MADZ batch yan?

Boccelli
Oct 10, 2000, 10:12 PM
Guten Morgen....

Hey guys,

Monteverdi-i bought a CD by the Cambridge Singers ... its ok... there are nice songs in there. But I don't think I'd end up being a fan of them. Im still waiting for this CD called Masterpiece Choral something..... i forgot...

I listened to the MADZ Tanguendo... 94 batch... diba napagusapan na natin na di masyadong magaling yung batch na yun? Di ko lang sure... parang iba kasi yung tunog eh....
Fav ko pa rin yung 89 ... and im sure yung 2000.

TO EVERYONE.... so call kayo sa EB... sige... I'll see what I can do... sino ba ang may malaking bahay dito... hehehehehehehehehe dun na lang tayo mag EB....

tapos.. bring your favorite choral CDs para we can listen to all of them... wipee..... kaya lang baka naman masuka na tayo!!!

take care.... 3 more weeks to go!!!

Monteverdi
Oct 11, 2000, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by Boccelli
Guten Morgen....

Hey guys,

Monteverdi-i bought a CD by the Cambridge Singers ... its ok... there are nice songs in there. But I don't think I'd end up being a fan of them. Im still waiting for this CD called Masterpiece Choral something..... i forgot...

I listened to the MADZ Tanguendo... 94 batch... diba napagusapan na natin na di masyadong magaling yung batch na yun? Di ko lang sure... parang iba kasi yung tunog eh....
Fav ko pa rin yung 89 ... and im sure yung 2000.

TO EVERYONE.... so call kayo sa EB... sige... I'll see what I can do... sino ba ang may malaking bahay dito... hehehehehehehehehe dun na lang tayo mag EB....

tapos.. bring your favorite choral CDs para we can listen to all of them... wipee..... kaya lang baka naman masuka na tayo!!!

take care.... 3 more weeks to go!!!



Anong Cambridge CD binili mo? Si AJ talaga ang mahilig d'yan dahil kay Rutter. Dati favorite choir ko sila kasi sila talaga yung unang English choir na narinig ko. Hindi pilit ang mga soprano (yung sabi mong parang diva). And very pitch secure sila ha! Kaya lang napansin ko, after hearing other good European choirs, masyadong breathy ang tone nila. OK lang din mag-interpret ng mga kanta kasi malinaw.

Kaya MADZ 94 nilagay ko kasi yung ibang MADZ CD na bago marami pang binibenta...baka magtampo sila sa akin, hehehe. I wanted to put nga a cut from the 1989 batch kaya lang ang haba ng mga kanta, I can't upload them to Yahoo. Siguro christmas song nalang from the same batch. [buti nga on target pa rin sila sa pitch eh, kaya Tangueando nalang pinili ko.]

The present batch is much better. Some critic said na hindi pa raw ganun ka gel yung tunog kasi puro bago yung mga members (may mga taga La Salle dun ah!). Pero, grabe...we can only wait and see what great things this current MADZ batch can accomplish...(May concert ata sila at the end of the month sa Philam, not sure lang ha. Also, im looking forward to their Bach recital with the PPO in November sa CCP...kahit di Baroque choir ang MADZ, basta Bach, pwede na!)

JURAVIT -- Oo nga, ang galing ng Swingle Singers! (Sila ba yung nasa carefree na commercial?)

Zack
Oct 11, 2000, 07:41 PM
Monteverdi:

Batch 1991 ng MADZ yung kumanta ng songs na yun... galing ng mga folksongs nila both local and foreign... for my opinion, yun yung batch na pinakamagaling... well of course yung batch 1997... buti na lang at meron na akong mga CDs ng Madz at mga tapes nila... naku.. mag lagay din kaya ako ng mga pure MADZ na songs sa internet.. hmmm... naku.. hanggang sa muli kong pagpost dito... Nice day to all!!!

karen_c
Oct 12, 2000, 03:35 PM
hello everyone!!! sobrang busy na naman sa school... busy sa kakatulog. anyway, hindi kami nakapanood ng concert ng MADZ nung October 1 because of the following reasons:
1. Wala kaming ticket and we weren't sure kung meron pang makukuha dun sa venue.
2. Medyo puyat dahil meron isang nag-birthday...
3. Bangag lahat...

Pero siyempre success naman yun... kelan ba naman naging less than astounding ang performance ng MADZ... grabe... teka...

Monteverdi: Who are you? Paano mo ako nakilala? kilala din kita?

Juravit: Kung sino ka man, magpakita ka! Tanong ako nang tanong pag practice kung sino si juravit, walang sumasagot. Di kaya't... hmmm.... ikaw ba ang favorite tummy ko? o ang pinaka-poging chorale?

Boccelli: We miss you na talaga... at buti ka pa makakapanood ka ng Miss Saigon. Siyempre halos wala nang tickets na available ngayon at kung meron mang available, SUPER MEGA MAHAL!!! How much mo nabili ticket mo? Di kita matawagan kasi di pa rin activated international roaming ko eh... my dad's in texas pala... alam mo ba yun? well, babalik ka na rin naman pala so ok lang... basta bilisan mo na ha...

Whoopie: Eto na naman... na-e-emphasize na naman ang pagka-single natin... hindi naman masama maging single di ba? Well, pero siguro its about time na nga na you start dating... haha!!! masyado ka kasing mapili eh...

FOR EVERYONE:
May pre-Christmas concert kami... sana makapanood kayo... further information - next time na lang...

minette
Oct 12, 2000, 03:39 PM
maraming magtataka...

Monteverdi
Oct 12, 2000, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by karen_c

Monteverdi: Who are you? Paano mo ako nakilala? kilala din kita?



You know me and I know you :) We see each other pag practice ng Chorale :)

Hanggang ngayon hindi mo pa rin kilala si Juravit? hahaha! :) malapit yung latter na hula mo!

JohnnyBBad
Oct 14, 2000, 12:56 AM
Hay, finally, I got my computer fixed and my internet access back!!! Well the Glee Club will be off to Subic in a few hours, and sobrang good luck sa amin becuase we still haven't memorized the pieces :( AAAAAAAARGH!!!

Here's our Subic repertoire:

Santus - Cayabyab
Agnus Dei - Cayabyab
Ride la primavera - Schütz
Vineta - Brahms
Salmo 150 - Aguiar
Si ch'io vorrei morire - Monteverdi
Resignation - Wolf
Musicians Wrestle Everywhere - Carter
Denn er hat seinen - Mendelssohn
Magnificat - Swayne
Awit ni Solomon - Estrada
No Importa la Distancia - arr. Pamintuan
When I fall in Love - the usual!
Someone like you (from Jekyll and Hyde) - arr. Pamintuan
Hanggang Langit - Navarro
Nonot kamo kanako - arr. Palaruan
Caturog na Nonoy - arr. Hernandez
Pamugun - Feliciano
Rosas Pandan - arr. Hernandez

This will be our trial run-cum-concert for the Tolosa competition. I'm soooooooooo tense already!!! A bit of bad news though. The "farewell" concert for Tolosa is supposedly strictly for family and friends kasi maliit lang ang venue sa Ateneo. We might have a homecomming concert when we come back, so try to catch us there na lang.

Mabuhay ang mga Filipino choirs! :)

JohnnyBBad
Oct 14, 2000, 12:59 AM
Hmm by the way, I know it's not choral-related matters, but sinong mahilig sa opera dito? I'm an opera fanatic myself!

Boccelli
Oct 14, 2000, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by JohnnyBBad
Hmm by the way, I know it's not choral-related matters, but sinong mahilig sa opera dito? I'm an opera fanatic myself!

Hey JohnnyBBad...
so that's what happened.. we were wondering where you ran off to... Anyhooo, I didn't know you have your own version of Someone Like You coz we also sing that. I love that song. I actually sang it at my cousin's wedding thanks to Orka.. =)

I do hope i get to hear that version.. kainis naman we wont be able to watch your concert.. can't i pass for a relative para maka pasok ako sa venue.. heheheheheheh

when do you guys leave? good luck sa inyo!!! =)

papabur
Oct 14, 2000, 09:53 AM
hey there bocceli! siguro kilala mo na ko just with my username. sa sobrang haba na ng posted messages dito, i really dont know if you guys know that bocceli here was one of the chosen singers by cayabyab in the international symposium on choral music held here in manila? hehehehe - he rendered his best ethnic vocal abilities to suit the avant garde arrangement of cayabyab of iddem dem malida - together with three of a kind!

Monteverdi: hello. did we attend the same high school? if so, honestly, i never thought that you were such a fan of choral music...thanks for always supporting us...if u see aj, send him my regards...

papabur
Oct 14, 2000, 10:04 AM
johnnybbad,

hi there! its just now that i registered here but i just wanna tell you that i know how you feel. when will you leave for tolosa? sayang gusto pa naman naming manood ng farewell concert nyo. sige ill just wait for your homecoming concert. ang galing galing nating lahat! lets show them that filipinos are not just good kidnappers and jueteng lords-hehehehe mabuhay kayo at tayong lahat!!!

kurashige
Oct 14, 2000, 10:41 AM
JohnyBBad,

pakisabi kay Kuya John and Ate Daphine dumalaw naman sila sa Pharmacy Glee Club, sobrang tagal na silang di napupunta dun eh...pakisabi gud luck na din pati na din sa inyo from The UST-Pharmacy Glee Club. Yung Choirmaster nga pala namin ngayon eh Kasama sa Chorus ng Miss Saigon Manila and sa Summer sa Singapore.

Natapos n'yo na ba yung El Grito(Lamuerte entra y salle dela taberna..) and Pamugun? Kasama ba yun sa repertoire nyo?

Sana makapanood kami ng Farewell Concert n'yo...pagdating n'yo kami naman ang mag-coconcert.

Narinig n'yo na bang kumanta ang PGC? Naikuwento na ba sa inyo ni Kuya John at ni Sir Joel (nagturo din kasi siya samin dati eh) ang PGC?

Gud luck sa Tour n'yo.

Boccelli
Oct 14, 2000, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by papabur
hey there bocceli! siguro kilala mo na ko just with my username. sa sobrang haba na ng posted messages dito, i really dont know if you guys know that bocceli here was one of the chosen singers by cayabyab in the international symposium on choral music held here in manila? hehehehe - he rendered his best ethnic vocal abilities to suit the avant garde arrangement of cayabyab of iddem dem malida - together with three of a kind!

Monteverdi: hello. did we attend the same high school? if so, honestly, i never thought that you were such a fan of choral music...thanks for always supporting us...if u see aj, send him my regards...

Hey there papabur... i love the username....

So i am thinking you got my email already. Im here in my apartment..its friday night... no gimik.. i was supposed to go out with someone tonight but it didn't push thru... damn it! ooops.. sorry about that...anyhoo, did you see the MTV Video Music awards last september.. im watching the reruns kasi eh.. for like the nth time.... funny lang yung voice ni Christina Aguillera.. sobrang paos... di niya matira yung mga notes niya..... sobrang pilit....

Hey guys, I hope you catch Meet the Parents when it gets shown in Manila... its such a funny movie.. you'll love it!!! Sobrang makakarelate yung mga ibang tao... not literally...

TWO WEEKS TO GO... im counting down the days!!!..... I can't wait to go back.. by the way, to the Chorale, tell sir that i got a few pieces here pero not sure if he's gonna like them.

By the way, CHORALE .. please email me the repertoire for the Dec 1 concert.

Sopranina, don't forget the CD i had reserved ha.. hehehehe good luck sa inyo!!! =)

kurashige
Oct 14, 2000, 05:12 PM
JohnnyBBad,

can you tell kuya john that the choir (UST-PGC) need him badly, we wanna see him soon, same with ate daphine. dumalaw naman sana sila bago man lang kayo umalis.

can you post your repertoire for Tolosa, pleeez?

kakantahin n'yo ba ang Makedonska Humoreska and Tangueando...?

thanks in andvance!

Gud luck sa concert n'yo sa Subic...

...kelan yung exact date ng Farewell Concert and departure n'yo? pleeeez? we badly need kuya Joohn Pamintuan, really!

Monteverdi
Oct 16, 2000, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by papabur

Monteverdi: hello. did we attend the same high school? if so, honestly, i never thought that you were such a fan of choral music...thanks for always supporting us...if u see aj, send him my regards...

You leave me in the dark :) We're from the same High School if that school is in Makati :)

choirmaster
Oct 16, 2000, 02:18 PM
Nakakatuwa ang mga discussions dito. I had just spent an hour of my internet time to read all of them. I will not comment on who the best university choir is, baka ako ma-chugi! But some added info on the other messages:

The title CHOIR OF THE WORLD is the name of the equivalent of a Grand Prix winner (best choir during the whole competition) for the Llangollen Eisteddfod in Wales. It has nothing to do with being the best in the world, but only the best for that particular competition FOR THAT PARTICULAR YEAR. (parang Ms. Universe title. Bongga that Fil-Am girl who won this year's Miss America no?)

RIAS Kammerchor is the professional choir of the RIAS Radio station in Berlin, Germany. Full name is RADIO IN THE AMERICAN SECTOR, back when Germany was divided into four sectors, for the four victorious allied powers. Conductor is Marcus Creed. Have watched them live at the Philharmonie in Berlin, and it's better than the recordings!

NO, you don't have to win ALL of the participating competitions of the Grand Prix Europeen to be able to join, you just have to win in one of them. Batch '89 of the Madz did not participate the following year (1990) for reasons unknown, maybe financial. Unlike nowadays, when choirs go to Europe every year (well, almost!), nu'ng araw, they go every 4 or 5 years, with the Madz having an 8 year hiatus (after batch 81 came batch 89, batch years referring to European trips taken). There was also batch 69, 73, 76 and of course 81. You should hear some of the recordings (from the U.P. College of Music) from the previous batches (especially 76, but then naka-reel tape, at sira ang player ngayon ng U.P. Music). They have this recording of Les Chants des Oiseaux that was the basis for the interpretation of succeeding Madz batches.

Teka, ang dami ko nang sinasabi, baka mabuking kung sino ako!

Keep on singing guys!

p.s. sorry, hindi ako marunong gumamit ng icons. Pano ba?

JohnnyBBad
Oct 16, 2000, 03:05 PM
Haaay finally we survived road-testing some of our Tolosa repertoire at our concert in Subic :) Akala ko mamamatay kami without the pieces, but what do you know, we did have a show after all! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Kurashige: yep John knows you nga. No, I haven't heard the UST Pharmacy Glee Club sing, but Kay Balajadia and I did a demo-performance for the PCG about two years ago courtesy of John :) And no, we're not singing Makedonska Humoreska this time (sana i-retire na namin yon! hehehehe) while the El Grito and Malagueña from the Suite de Lorca of Rautavarra we used for competion in Tours, France, and the Pamugún we used in the Maribor, Solvenia competition.

Choirmaster: you were right about the Madz '89. They won the right to represent Gorizia for the 1990 Grand Prix but they didn't piush thru because of financial constraints, according to Jojo V. Naku, knock on wood, sana hindi mangyari sa amin yon next year!!!

Hmmmmm, we might have an open-to-the-public farewell performance after all. Jojo Velasco (who's conducting us for this particular competition) wants to really concertize the repertoire for Tolosa as much as possible para ma break-in ng husto. I never realized how demanding the repertoire was until the concerts in Subic! Considering it was just half of our Tolosa repertoire with some concert pieces inserted in, e wala pang kalahiti ng concert e tiba-tiba na kami! I swear, we really gotta build-up that stamina. Here's the repertoire for our farewell concert(s). It's also the whole repertoire for the Tolosa competitions:

Une vielle chanson - Javier Boll-Portu
Mendekoste Phestetan - Javier Bello-Portu
Amodioa - Javier Busto
Rosas Pandan - arr. George Hernandez
Gabaq-an - Ruben Federizon
O Vos Omnes - Pablo Casals
Ride la Primavera - Heinrich Schütz
Sanctus - Ryan Cayabyab
Agnus Dei - Ryan Cayabyab
O Rex gloriæ - Giovanni Pierlugi da Palestrina
Denn er hat seinen Engeln befohlen - Felix Mendelssohn-Bartholdy
Salmo 150 - Ernani Aguiar
Magnificat - Giles Swayne
Awit ni Solomon - Robin Estrada
Si ch'io vorrei morire - Claudio Monteverdi
Resigmnation - Hugo Wolf
Musicians Wrestle Everywhere - Elliot Carter
Caturog na Nonoy - arr. George Hernandez
Pamugún - Fransisco Feliciano

The following are the pieces for the gala night (cross my fingers!), but I doubt it if we'll be singing it in the farewell itself

Ilay Gandangan - Rodolfo Delarmente
Kyrie - Ryan Caybyab
Aba po, Santa Mariang Reyna
No Importa la Dinstancia (Go the Distance from "Hercules" - arr. John Pamintuan

So, I guess that's it for now. Lemme keep you posted for further details regarding date and venue of our "public" farewell concert.

P.S. Sige, let's have an EB, pero sooner sana, mga November na lang before maging busy tayong laht sa kani-kaniyang choirs becuse of the Christmas season! Take care folks!!!

Monteverdi
Oct 16, 2000, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by choirmaster

RIAS Kammerchor is the professional choir of the RIAS Radio station in Berlin, Germany. Full name is RADIO IN THE AMERICAN SECTOR, back when Germany was divided into four sectors, for the four victorious allied powers. Conductor is Marcus Creed. Have watched them live at the Philharmonie in Berlin, and it's better than the recordings!



Nakakatuwa kasi I've guessed right na radio choir nga yang RIAS Kammerchor. I've heard of a RIAS station before...I don't know kung meron pa nun sa Germany.

Buti ka pa napanood mo na sila...what do you think of them?

Some Smilies:

:) - smile
:( - sad face
;) - wink
:p - beh!

make sure that the box in the options section saying Disable Smilies in This post is UNCHECKED (hehehe, i know obvious, sorry!)

choirmaster
Oct 16, 2000, 09:45 PM
RIAS Kammerchor is exceptional, the members are fully professional. That means, they get paid to sing in the choir. I think they rehearse about 4 hours a day regularly, tapos of course extra rehearsals pag may big concerts. Salary is about 7 to 10,000 Deutsch marks (around 3,500 to 5,000 USD) per month, gross. Entrance is by audition. Their main purpose for existence is to promote the RIAS Rundfunk, as well as singing repertoire exclusive to the radio station. With the system in Germany, you have to pay to connect your stereo system to the FM broadcasts. Imagine that! Makikinig ka lang ng FM, magbabayad ka pa!

Their sound is very homogenous, and naka free forward placement lahat ng boses. Not a single mistake in both intonation and other technical aspects, and of course the interpretation is dependent on the current conductor or guest conductors. You would be surprised at some of the members, mukhang mga nanay! They've probably been singing a long time with the choir.

Additional info: our very own Jonathan Zaens (Madz 89)sometimes moonlights as added bass in the RIAS Kammerchor, when they need more people to perform large works. But of course he has more solo engagements than choral ones.

As for the ateneo glee club's repertoire: ba't ganoon kahaba? How many categories are you guys joining? Grabe, ang bigat ng repertoire!! But it's very varied in style and I'm sure the Europeans will love all of it. It will be very interesting to hear you sing interpretations of Brahms and the other European pieces. How's Jojo V. with regards interpretation? Di ba he studied in Germany? Anyway, I'm sure you'll do well. Keep us posted on when we can watch.

choirmaster
Oct 16, 2000, 10:51 PM
Have been rereading the postings on this forum. A lot of things disturb me. This concerns the title "Chorale champions this year" or "Choir of the World since 1995", etc.

Guys, THERE IS NO CHAMPIONSHIP CONTEST EXISTING THAT CAN CLAIM ITS WINNER AS THE BEST CHOIR IN THE WORLD! The nearest thing to a championship contest is the Grand Prix Europeen, which the Madz won in 1997 and the UST Singers sadly lost in 1999. But then, just to be included as one of six contestants in this competition is already a big thing, because the six competitions are the toughest in the world. The other competitions are also as prestigious, and they have a long history na you will be surprised, yung natatalo sa kanila (mga ibang "pipitsuging competitions"} e win naman sa Grand Prix europeen.

Ateneo won in Slovenia, Riva del Garda, Cork and Tours, but THEY ARE NOT THE CHORAL CHAMPIONS OF THE WORLD THIS YEAR. That title would probably go to the children's choir na nanalo sa Grand Prix Europeen sa Tolosa (IF THERE EVER WAS SUCH A TITLE!) SAME GOES FOR THE UST SINGERS IN THEIR WINNING YEARS. They have been adjudged as the best choir in particular competitions, and are probably the best in Europe at that time, but even those titles are fleeting, at best. THE GRAND PRIX EUROPEEN TITLE IS ONLY FOR ONE YEAR. (Ikaw ba, natatandaan mo kung sino ang nanalo sa Miss world nung 1984? May competition ba kung saan naglalaban-laban ang nanalo sa Miss World, Miss Universe, at kung ano pang misses?) The succeeding year, iba na naman ang panalo. Ang choir mo, nasa listahan na lang. That makes us feel proud of course, na biglang may nakasingit na Philippine choir among all those European names, and it is immortalized in the list of Grand Prix winners. Added attraction pa sa bio ng choir mo. Sa sobrang galing mo, banned ka to compete in the big six for the next 4 or 5 years. I'm not belittling the competitions that our choirs have joined, but be careful about the titles you bestow on these choirs. Baka sa sobrang pag-angat nyo sa kanila (or pag-angat nila sa sarili nila, through PRESS RELEASE), mahihirapan tayong lahat to set the record straight.

One thing is sure: kinatatakutan ang Filipino choirs whenever they compete abroad. A headline in the newspapers from the 1989 competition in Gorizia sums it all up:

FATE LARGO ARRIVANO I FILIPPINI

Loosely translated: pay attention, the Filipinos have arrived! Pag hindi ka pa kinilabutan niyan, e manhid ka na!

Monteverdi
Oct 17, 2000, 09:15 AM
TO CHOIRMASTER:

Somehow I feel the Choir of the World title is somehow inappropriate...hindi naman pwedeng sumali ang mga professional choirs diba? Besides, how does one adjucate a straight tone choir from one that borders on being operatic in tone? It's like comparing two different things, apples and oranges... ;)

Do you have info on the Philippine Chamber Choir? They are really an excellent group, semi-professional(kaya di sila pwedeng sumali sa competitions)...I haven't confirmed if they are going to perform Rachmaninov's Vespers soon, sabi lang sa akin...

Salamat sa info sa RIAS Kammerchor...fave choir ko yan eh! I've heard them under two conductors. One is of course Marcus Creed and the other is Rene Jacobs. Grabe, sobrang perfect nga ang intonation nila...no slips...i've been listening to them with the score in hand, and I just envy their sopranos hitting those high As without ANY semblance of stress or effort...Grabe! Parang mga robot! They almost always generate those beautiful harmonic overtones pagdating nila sa cadences. Tama ka din, most of them mukhang mommy na! May poster ako nila, at natawa nga ako sa sinabi mo eh! Kind of weird kasi dito puro mga youngish faces pa ang mga singers! PCC lang talaga yung medyo mature na ang dating eh! Even sa MADZ may mga college students pa diba?

Anyhow, thanks for the info... :)

JohnnyBBad
Oct 17, 2000, 06:31 PM
Monteverdi: PCC was existent in idea since around 1997. I know Jojo auditioned some people during that time, but for some reason or another, he didn't push through with it. Circa early 1998, he finally invited (yep, until now, memebership is still strictly invitational)and brought together some of the finest, if not legendary, choristers/soloists in Manila, and they debuted as a front act to this all-female Belgian choir (I think)who performed here in the Philippines. Just think: Luchi Reyes, Aileen Cura, Ed Nepumuceno, Robert Delgado, Joel Navarro, etc. were just some of the members who sang/is still singing with them. I was fortunate enough to be invited then, and honestly, nanlamig ako from seeing all of those people in the room. Naisip ko, "What the heck am I doing in this choir?!" All the more, when we started rehearsing, everybody, and I mean everybody, started to almost perfectly sight-read the pieces in sight, which was no mean feat, considering that it was almost an all-20th century repertoire that we were rehearsing. Grabe, I swear mahihila pataas ng husto ang musical expertise mo kasi napapalaban ka sa galing ng mga kasama mo. Too bad the Glee Club commitments prevented me from continuing the PCC stint, but it was a fun and musicaly rewarding experience while it lasted!

Choirmaster: sasalihan namin lahat ng categories sa Tolosa, hence the varied, and yes, heavy repertoire. You do have a very keen knowledge of foreign competitions. Are you also a memebr of one of the big choirs?

sopranina
Oct 18, 2000, 12:05 AM
pyket, hi! shempre pagbalik galing Subic ko lang nabasa message mo. ok naman yung mga concerts dun. we have a sort of farewell concert on Saturday sa Exhibit Hall ng Gonzaga (the dance studio) at sa Sunday (na hindi pa sure yung venue). mga 7pm yata ang start at free siya.

Boccelli
Oct 18, 2000, 02:16 AM
I don't believe this... i won't be able to catch the Glee Club again!!!...

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA..........

Anyhoo, I really wish you guys luck in your Tolosa stint..
I want to hear ur batch's version of Ilay .... (just because its one of our specialties..) i wanted to hear how other choirs interpret the song...

Funny nga kasi one time there was this choir that interpreted Ilay and they had this interpretative dancer do some movement and dance while they were singing it... the funny thing about it was, the movement/dance was totally out of context. Ilay is a song for the Sun God or Praising the Sun... and it seemed like they made it into a death meets hell kind of interpretation... yun lang.. heheheheh

I hope someone records your performance... (hint hint)... so i could hear it when i get back to manila...


WOW... exciting naman.... and i really can't get over your repertoire... it just reminds me of our tour where we also had an exag repertoire...

I heard your mp3 of Cantate Domino... interesting rendition..

SOPRANINA... can't you leave the CD you were going to sell me to someone who's going to be in manila.... I want to hear it na sana as soon as i set foot sa NAIA... heheheheheh

I can't wait for it... will you be able to find a way to leave it with someone so i can get it from him/her..

thanks!!

INGAT KAYO and GOOD LUCK

Monteverdi
Oct 18, 2000, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by JohnnyBBad
Monteverdi: PCC was existent in idea since around 1997. I know Jojo auditioned some people during that time, but for some reason or another, he didn't push through with it. Circa early 1998, he finally invited (yep, until now, memebership is still strictly invitational)and brought together some of the finest, if not legendary, choristers/soloists in Manila, and they debuted as a front act to this all-female Belgian choir (I think)who performed here in the Philippines. Just think: Luchi Reyes, Aileen Cura, Ed Nepumuceno, Robert Delgado, Joel Navarro, etc. were just some of the members who sang/is still singing with them. I was fortunate enough to be invited then, and honestly, nanlamig ako from seeing all of those people in the room. Naisip ko, "What the heck am I doing in this choir?!" All the more, when we started rehearsing, everybody, and I mean everybody, started to almost perfectly sight-read the pieces in sight, which was no mean feat, considering that it was almost an all-20th century repertoire that we were rehearsing. Grabe, I swear mahihila pataas ng husto ang musical expertise mo kasi napapalaban ka sa galing ng mga kasama mo. Too bad the Glee Club commitments prevented me from continuing the PCC stint, but it was a fun and musicaly rewarding experience while it lasted!



Alam mo sabi rin yan ng dating voice teacher ko (who solos with the PCC on numerous engagements)...they have PERFECT SIGHT READING! Jojo never has to waste time hacking at the keyboard...all he has to worry about is the interpretation of the song. I have this abnormally gifted friend who has very near perfect pitch (as in tell him sing G-flat and he'll give it to you!). As a bet we did, I asked him to sing all the parts of a certain work, chosen randomly, on the spot. I picked Bach's Psallite Deo, and guess what? I lost a CD to him! He sung the bass part first, shifted to alto (in countertenor fashion), then to tenor, up to soprano 1, back to bass, etc...all in one rendition of the song! He must have traded his soul for the devil! hehehe...Gusto pa nga niya ng isa pang bet, pero ayoko nang mawalan pa ng CD!

Kaya gusto ko ang PCC kasi sila lang talaga yung formal na classical choir dito. Its as if they dont make the cute songs their bread-and-butter...mostly their repertoire consist of the really hard songs in the catalog of choral songs.

They did Poulenc's Gloria (or was it Mass in G?), Orff's Carmina Burana, and I think soon they'll be doing Rachmaninov's Vespers (hah! This work has Bass parts that reach all the way down to low B-flat! ;)). Plus, as you said they premiere those avant-garde 20th century choral works (which sometimes sound like extended catfights na naka place ang mga boses!).

Well...thanks for the info...sayang di ka natuloy dun! They recently went to a choral festival in Taiwan...there they met another outstanding ensemble, the Tallis Scholars!

BTW, if any of you can convince 40 choral singers, should'nt we try to attempt, just for fun ;), Thomas Tallis' 40-part motet? Yup (for 8 SSATB choirs)! Sige na, para masaya! Hehehe! (I know...sabihin n'yo "mag-isa ka!")

JURAVIT/BOCCELLI/PAPABUR/KAREN_C, etc... Your arranger pala is busy with the PCC...it seems kakanta pa siya sa Vespers performance! He's also being commissioned to compose an extended, avant-garde Alleluia for them. Ang galing n'ya rumaket no?

Boccelli
Oct 18, 2000, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by Monteverdi
Alam mo sabi rin yan ng dating voice teacher ko (who solos with the PCC on numerous engagements)...they have PERFECT SIGHT READING! Jojo never has to waste time hacking at the keyboard...all he has to worry about is the interpretation of the song. I have this abnormally gifted friend who has very near perfect pitch (as in tell him sing G-flat and he'll give it to you!). As a bet we did, I asked him to sing all the parts of a certain work, chosen randomly, on the spot. I picked Bach's Psallite Deo, and guess what? I lost a CD to him! He sung the bass part first, shifted to alto (in countertenor fashion), then to tenor, up to soprano 1, back to bass, etc...all in one rendition of the song! He must have traded his soul for the devil! hehehe...Gusto pa nga niya ng isa pang bet, pero ayoko nang mawalan pa ng CD!

Kaya gusto ko ang PCC kasi sila lang talaga yung formal na classical choir dito. Its as if they dont make the cute songs their bread-and-butter...mostly their repertoire consist of the really hard songs in the catalog of choral songs.

They did Poulenc's Gloria (or was it Mass in G?), Orff's Carmina Burana, and I think soon they'll be doing Rachmaninov's Vespers (hah! This work has Bass parts that reach all the way down to low B-flat! ;)). Plus, as you said they premiere those avant-garde 20th century choral works (which sometimes sound like extended catfights na naka place ang mga boses!).

Well...thanks for the info...sayang di ka natuloy dun! They recently went to a choral festival in Taiwan...there they met another outstanding ensemble, the Tallis Scholars!

BTW, if any of you can convince 40 choral singers, should'nt we try to attempt, just for fun ;), Thomas Tallis' 40-part motet? Yup (for 8 SSATB choirs)! Sige na, para masaya! Hehehe! (I know...sabihin n'yo "mag-isa ka!")

JURAVIT/BOCCELLI/PAPABUR/KAREN_C, etc... Your arranger pala is busy with the PCC...it seems kakanta pa siya sa Vespers performance! He's also being commissioned to compose an extended, avant-garde Alleluia for them. Ang galing n'ya rumaket no?

Hey Monteverdi.. ang aga mo naman..

I just wanted to say na I hope AJ creates something like El Hambo... or Pseudo Yoik.. It sounds very funky and I know he can do it. Puro kasi Tapiola Choirs yung naririnig kong gumagawa or nagpeperform ng mga ganun arrangements eh... im sure our group can do it kasi sanay na kami sa mga sound effects hehehehehehehehehehe

I can't believe AJ is with PCC... i havev't heard that group sing yet... but based on what you guys have been telling me about them... Im sure they really are good...

Monteverdi... malapit na akong umuwi kaya i-ready mo na yung Poulenc na pieces na prinomise mo sa akin!...:)

I can't wait to perform again... Did I tell you guys I auditioned for an all male chorale group here in chicago...
I got accepted but i didn't continue it coz it was too demanding... especially with my work here...

Oh well.. at least alam ko na its sooooo easy to audition here if you are a very good filipino singer!!!... :)

Take care! Have a gread day!

powerpuffghurl
Oct 18, 2000, 11:54 AM
it was so fun reading the entries again....

choirmaster: you make the most sense out of all, and your experience in touring and competing (madrigal ka no???) enlightens our perception of activities happening outside our country.do post more stories :)

sopranina: hoy... ghurl... mas madalas na ata kitang makikita dito than anywhere else so dito na lang kita chichikahin. labas naman tayo minsan, before you guys go abroad uli! miss na miss na kita.

johnnybebadd/sopranina/acgc: rinig ko bakla ka daw? ching! ingat sa mga sakit, and may the voices in heaven sing with you guys in tolosa (not that you need them anyway... repertoire pa lang, panalo na kayo). but a little divine intercession wouldn't hurt, di ba? GO AND DOMINATE THE EURO GRAND PRIX IN DEBRECEN!!!! (mas bongga kung dalawa ire-represent nyo, di ba?)

i wish filipino choirs would record their performances (GOOd performances that is) more often. para documented yung mga choirs sa bansa natin, and even the pieces they sing (their invaluable treatment that is). it's bad enough that only a very small number of people appreciate this beautiful art in our country, and that culture and the arts are the two most unsupported things by our countrymen.

i think Filipino choirs, having proven that they are something to reckon with internationally, should take an active part in spreading this art around the country. nevermind institutions tasked to cultivate the arts, their too wrecked financially. imagine, with each choir concertizing regularly, and providing their services for diplomatic and international functions, it won't be long before the government realizes that proper investment in OUR choirs isn't such a bad idea, and that the provision of support for entities excelling in a field originating from Europe is REALLY A FRESH AND EFFECTIVE IDEA TO CREATE AND STRENGTHEN BONDS with European countries, and the like.

i made a research paper on this matter back in high school: on the evolution of the Filipino choir's role in society. And realistically, for our choirs to enjoy a conscious, RELEVANT role in our society, a lot should start within themselves - with their conscious efforts to promulgate their music internally using both their credibility (backed by awards in the international community) and talent as medium for various RELEVANT roles, from active patrons of the art to a sector in society using the art for social /diplomatic causes.

Let us prove to this skeptic community that the choir is not only a good sound. :)

choirmaster
Oct 18, 2000, 01:44 PM
Monteverdi: Sino si AJ?

johnnybbad: No, I am not a member of the big groups, sorry.

powerpuffghurl: No, hindi ako madrigal.

Everyone: please post news if PCC is really singing Rach Vespers, it's one of my favorite pieces. Nakakaantok sa ganda!! Last time I heard them was when they performed sa St. Cecilia's Hall b4 leaving for Taiwan... di ba they performed Pseudo-Yoik there?

Bakit parang ang feeling ko everybody knows everybody na, behind these name handles? Ako na lang ba ang anonymous??

Wala muna akong info postings, kasi medyo ngarag ako sa trabaho, at tinatamad ang utak ko. Siguro anecdotes na lang:

DID YOU KNOW THAT???.... the PCC is the only Philippine choir invited to the Asia/ South Pacific Symposium on Choral Music to be held in Singapore in August 2001? I found this out while checking their website at http://www.aspscm2001.org/

Yun lang!

Monteverdi
Oct 18, 2000, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by choirmaster
Monteverdi: Sino si AJ?

johnnybbad: No, I am not a member of the big groups, sorry.

powerpuffghurl: No, hindi ako madrigal.

Everyone: please post news if PCC is really singing Rach Vespers, it's one of my favorite pieces. Nakakaantok sa ganda!! Last time I heard them was when they performed sa St. Cecilia's Hall b4 leaving for Taiwan... di ba they performed Pseudo-Yoik there?

Bakit parang ang feeling ko everybody knows everybody na, behind these name handles? Ako na lang ba ang anonymous??

Wala muna akong info postings, kasi medyo ngarag ako sa trabaho, at tinatamad ang utak ko. Siguro anecdotes na lang:

DID YOU KNOW THAT???.... the PCC is the only Philippine choir invited to the Asia/ South Pacific Symposium on Choral Music to be held in Singapore in August 2001? I found this out while checking their website at http://www.aspscm2001.org/

Yun lang!

Si AJ? Siya ang arranger ng DLSU Chorale, esp. yung mga pop nila (My Heart Will Go On, The Prayer, When Will I See You Again, at marami pang iba). Magaling siya na bata (hehehe)! Very complex ang style ng a cappella niya...lush siguro ang word...a composition major sa St. Scho... certified John Rutter fanatic...can also play the piano with 3 limbs.

Bakit parang magkakakilala kami? KC siguro matagal na kaming nagpopost rito...imagine! 12 pages and over a thousand views na!

Oo, naalala ko na...I heard them sing that Pseudo-Yoik song that night...pero mas trip ko yung 2 avant-garde na kanta (Tinig ng Salmo[?] and Awit ni Solomon[?]). Funny that they rendered the tigidingding song with guitar.

Magaling yung soloist na tenor na kasing tangkad ni Ogie... grabe yung range at quality niya!

Actually, many members of PCC are MADZ Alumni...Darleen, Emmanuel, etc...

whoopie
Oct 18, 2000, 07:40 PM
hey everyone!

grabe lang, almost everyone ba dito magkakakilala na?! Basta ako, ang kilala ko lang sina Bocelli, Juravit, Papabur, karen_c, monteverdi, ganda, showgirl, genius101, heyderguy. yung iba like, sopranina and johnnybad, i have an idea kung sino sila.(hey there!)Anyway, ang tagal ko ng di nagpost dito.

Bocelli: Excited na ko na bumalik ka. Haay, wag mo na problemahin yung date-date. Wala ko time dyan ngayon. Nakakaaliw lang yung idea mo na mag-EB! Sana game yung mga tao. That would be fun! Miss you na. TC.

Monteverdi: Anong batch ng chorale yung narinig mo na Dungdunguen Canto? Ganda ba talaga? Naku, '95 yan, i bet! Tama ba? Minsan lang kasi nakanta ng '99 yan eh. Actually sa Europe lang.

Papabur: Sama ka rin sa next concert ha? Excited na ko!

Karen_c: Hello?! Ok lang maging single noh?! By the age of 30 eh wala pa rin, iba na 'yon. Dont worry, "God will make a way...."=)

Sayang naman kung walang farewell concert ang ACGC.=( Goodluck sa GRAND PRIX!

Yun lang, byee!=)

animo_92
Oct 18, 2000, 08:37 PM
a venue for bashing again... hmmm....

to answer the topic posted, I believe all choirs have their strengths and weaknesses. I have watched the UP Madz, DLSU Chorale, Ateneo Glee Club, and even schools like the San Beda Boys' Choir and ang gagaling naman talaga nila (sorry, I haven't watched the UST Singers perfom). They have their own forte and even gimmicks. Ateneo GC, for example, has a strong tenor section; DLSU Chorale has a good soprano section (when I first watched them in 1995, they had a weak tenor section, but I watched them recently and I think they've improved). UE Chorale has also come on its own (they even performed in Mel & Jay). UP Madz, well, what can I say? They've revolutionized chorale singing in the Philippines. Imagine turning a song "MmmmBop" into a chorale piece? (Which our choir sang later on) Whatever singing techniques that I use now, I owe it to them. Ang galing nilang magturo and mag-motivate....

animo_92
Oct 18, 2000, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by Monteverdi
HELLO TO EVERYONE!

I was just able to upload SING A SONG OF SIXPENCE, an English folk song arranged by John Rutter. Check at the link below

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/johnmonteverdi

It's performed here by the Cambridge Singers. They are well known for singing Rutter's works as well as being leading exponents of straight tone singing (i.e. absolutely no vibrato). I just love their brilliant tone!

It's not hard to figure out why choirs love this song...it's challenging and very cheerful! hehehe! Nice example of 20th century counterpoint with subtle jazz rhythms...

This was also sung by the UST singers (on their 1999 CD), and very recently by the De La Salle University Chorale (during their anniv. concert).

***also just finished uploading Au Joly Jeu by the King's Singers! :)

Hope to upload the other songs soon :)

[Edited by Monteverdi on 10-05-2000 at 07:58 PM]

waaahh!!! ang hirap kantahin niyan! ang bilis! para kaming naghahabulan nung practice. pero when you get the hang of it, fun na siyang kantahin... :)

animo_92
Oct 18, 2000, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by Monteverdi
Originally posted by heyderguy:
i think you can buy sir robert delgado's book at the music department of saint's scholastica, manila. well, someone told me that you can get it there, haven't checked it out myself though! anyway, since we're talkin' about him..., anyone out there who has heard of his arrangement of ABA GINOONG MARIA..., personal opinion---GALING! as in MAJOR WINNER!!!! if someone has a copy, please naman contact me and give me one...kahit malabo pa ang kopya! BTW, anybody heard of the holy trinity college grand chorale from puerto princesa, palawan? they're good and they have lottsa untapped potential! yun lang! god bless everyone!
_____________________________________________

Do i know you? baka nga...

Anyway, are you sure si Robert Delgado gumawa nun? Baka si Annie Abeleda (MADZ soprano and choirmaster ng UE Chorale)...kasi meron ako nung piyesa nun...




I think you're talking about ANNA Abeleda (naku, wag mong tawagin Annie, yun, tatarayan ka nun to the max!) She was our choirmaster sa office namin (i mean, former office ko pala). :)

animo_92
Oct 18, 2000, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by Monteverdi
Originally posted by heyderguy:
i think you can buy sir robert delgado's book at the music department of saint's scholastica, manila. well, someone told me that you can get it there, haven't checked it out myself though! anyway, since we're talkin' about him..., anyone out there who has heard of his arrangement of ABA GINOONG MARIA..., personal opinion---GALING! as in MAJOR WINNER!!!! if someone has a copy, please naman contact me and give me one...kahit malabo pa ang kopya! BTW, anybody heard of the holy trinity college grand chorale from puerto princesa, palawan? they're good and they have lottsa untapped potential! yun lang! god bless everyone!
_____________________________________________

Do i know you? baka nga...

Anyway, are you sure si Robert Delgado gumawa nun? Baka si Annie Abeleda (MADZ soprano and choirmaster ng UE Chorale)...kasi meron ako nung piyesa nun...




I think you're talking about ANNA Abeleda (naku, wag mong tawagin Annie, yun, tatarayan ka nun to the max!) She was our choirmaster sa office namin (i mean, former office ko pala). :) And yes, it was Robert Delgado who arranged Aba Ginoong Maria, I heard it being sang by Voice of Manila in their anniv concert.

Boccelli
Oct 18, 2000, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by whoopie
hey everyone!

grabe lang, almost everyone ba dito magkakakilala na?! Basta ako, ang kilala ko lang sina Bocelli, Juravit, Papabur, karen_c, monteverdi, ganda, showgirl, genius101, heyderguy. yung iba like, sopranina and johnnybad, i have an idea kung sino sila.(hey there!)Anyway, ang tagal ko ng di nagpost dito.

Bocelli: Excited na ko na bumalik ka. Haay, wag mo na problemahin yung date-date. Wala ko time dyan ngayon. Nakakaaliw lang yung idea mo na mag-EB! Sana game yung mga tao. That would be fun! Miss you na. TC.

Monteverdi: Anong batch ng chorale yung narinig mo na Dungdunguen Canto? Ganda ba talaga? Naku, '95 yan, i bet! Tama ba? Minsan lang kasi nakanta ng '99 yan eh. Actually sa Europe lang.

Papabur: Sama ka rin sa next concert ha? Excited na ko!

Karen_c: Hello?! Ok lang maging single noh?! By the age of 30 eh wala pa rin, iba na 'yon. Dont worry, "God will make a way...."=)

Sayang naman kung walang farewell concert ang ACGC.=( Goodluck sa GRAND PRIX!

Yun lang, byee!=)


WHOOPIE.. the Dungdunguen Canto performance that Monteverdi critiqued on was of the DLSU Chorale Batch 99 when they performed it in the 5th World Symposium on Choral Music(1999) in De Doeln (Rotterdam, the Netherlands)

Will I still be able to hear the PCC when I get back? I would definitely want to listen to a new professional group that performs avant garde repertoire...

By the way, the DLSU Chorale performed a Bach piece in Europe last year... Darthulas Grabesgesang... it is actually a very intense and soulful piece. I wish that they could sing it here in the Philippines so that other choirs could have an insight on how this choir delivers Bach!

=)

12 more days!

choirmaster
Oct 18, 2000, 11:42 PM
BOCELLI: May I correct something? Darthulas Grabesgesang is the 3rd song of Johannes Brahms' Weltliche Gesaenge op. 42. (I hope we're talking about the same piece!) The first two are Abendstaendchen and Vineta. Vineta is, if I remember correctly, included in the Ateneo Glee Club's Tolosa repertoire. Is that correct, johnnybbad? Anyway, Brahms or Bach, mahirap pa rin i-pronounce ang mga hinayupak na German texts na yan, let alone memorize!

Another beautiful set would be the op. 104, with its Nachtwache I and II, Letztes Glueck, Verlorne Jugend and Im Herbst. Nachtwache II was in the repertoire of the Madz in the late 70's and early 80's, when they sang it for visiting German choral professor Martin Behrmann. I have a recording of the Monteverdi Choir of JE Gardiner, some pieces maganda, some are chaka.

Boccelli
Oct 19, 2000, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by choirmaster
BOCELLI: May I correct something? Darthulas Grabesgesang is the 3rd song of Johannes Brahms' Weltliche Gesaenge op. 42. (I hope we're talking about the same piece!) The first two are Abendstaendchen and Vineta. Vineta is, if I remember correctly, included in the Ateneo Glee Club's Tolosa repertoire. Is that correct, johnnybbad? Anyway, Brahms or Bach, mahirap pa rin i-pronounce ang mga hinayupak na German texts na yan, let alone memorize!

Another beautiful set would be the op. 104, with its Nachtwache I and II, Letztes Glueck, Verlorne Jugend and Im Herbst. Nachtwache II was in the repertoire of the Madz in the late 70's and early 80's, when they sang it for visiting German choral professor Martin Behrmann. I have a recording of the Monteverdi Choir of JE Gardiner, some pieces maganda, some are chaka.


Grabe.. i can't believe i actually wrote Bach.... sorry po.. hehehehehehehehe.. masyado lang siguro akong naguguluhan dito sa work ko ngayon.. yes you are right.. it is Brahms... duh.. ang stupid ko talaga..hahahahaha... i should know that kasi yun yung required piece na ginamit namin sa 1st Johannes Brahms Competition sa Germany. I also like Abendstaendchen that was used in the other category. Personally, I like german songs a lot. Because of the tour last year, I feel more comfortable with german and Im sure the same goes with the Madz(i think) and the other choirs. Speaking german(half baked) helps in singing german pieces coz you can actually emphasize certain syllables especially the one's with umlauts (mali ata ang spelling ko)

DO YOU GUYS LIKE RICHTE(Mendelssohn)?? i want to know kasi if it will have a good response from the choral scene in the Philippines.

Thanks again for the correction choirmaster. :)

papabur
Oct 19, 2000, 09:44 AM
hey there!!! i have been busy lately dito sa office kaya di ako nakapost.

monteverdi: i bet pareho nga tayo ng hs...thats the on across makati cinema square-sobrang familiar ka kasi--siguro youre one batch ahead of me...neway, can i just tell you that we had the chance to sing exultate deo of poulenc last 1995. it was one of our required pieces in our competition in spittal, austria...pagkatapos nun...sinumpa na siya ng group :) im not a wizard or an expert in choral singing, pero what i noticed about his work is ang hilig niya sa clashes!!! pero the ironic thing is...kabit naman siya-hehehehe... change topic-have you heard of the jubilate girls choir? we had the chance to hear them when we competed in arnhem. sila ang kinatakutan namin non...the quality was so enchanting and there was one soloist...cant forget her! galing! to date, sya pa lang ang naririnig kong nagsustain ng ganong kahaba...if ever you come across their cd or web site or whatever, pakisabi na lang :)

bocceli: its approximately 11 days to go!!! excited na lahat kami dito...preparations are ongoing-the works!--red carpet, banda, limo, streamers at confetti :) were gonna meet with the "two"--yung mga makikita mo dyan, sa saturday...para magpadala :) send my regards to ate tues and we cant wait to see you again. rent-singapore is doing auditions here on nov 3...so just you know :)

whoopie: same sentiments...wala akong kilala dito kundi kayo. pero, sobrang interesting ng mga discussions no? at least wala nang choir bashing at kung anu-ano pang pagpapabibo ng bawat isa...senseless kasi...see you around...para sakin mas maganda ka pa dun!!! (if you know what i mean) :)

Monteverdi
Oct 19, 2000, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by whoopie
hey everyone!

Monteverdi: Anong batch ng chorale yung narinig mo na Dungdunguen Canto? Ganda ba talaga? Naku, '95 yan, i bet! Tama ba? Minsan lang kasi nakanta ng '99 yan eh. Actually sa Europe lang.



Batch 99 po ang narinig ko...distinct yung sound eh. Grabe! Hindi ko talaga malimutan yung dynamic shadings nyo dun! Ayoko nang pag-usapan...ma over lang ako! Basta magaling! The best Dungdunguen Canto i've heard.

Sino ka nga ba? Nakikita mo ba ako? Clue naman oh...baka mali ang hinala ko kung sino ka...;)

Monteverdi
Oct 19, 2000, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by Boccelli

Will I still be able to hear the PCC when I get back? I would definitely want to listen to a new professional group that performs avant garde repertoire...

By the way, the DLSU Chorale performed a Bach piece in Europe last year... Darthulas Grabesgesang... it is actually a very intense and soulful piece. I wish that they could sing it here in the Philippines so that other choirs could have an insight on how this choir delivers Bach!


Alam mo, Brahms nga yang Darthulas Grabesgesang (one of his well known secular works)...I have the recording of Brahms by the Monteverdi Choir...hiniram pero di na binalik :( I'm waiting for the RIAS Kammerchor rendition, sana dumating na nga yung order ko :)

Minsan ko lang kayo marinig mag German...yung kay Pachelbel na motet. Mahirap kasi ang German dahil ang style niya very unsuited kung Bel Canto ang pagpapatunog sa choir...may kumanta nga ng Denn Er dito, siguro sa sobrang linya, kami ni AJ nagulat kasi tunog Italian! Sabi ko ok lang, at least mapuso naman! hehehe!

Ah yes, kinanta pala yang Denn Er ng chorale nung last concert nila...pero they are not the choir i was referring to.

RICHTE MICH, GOTT by Mendelssohn is currently being performed by the MADZ. I love their interpretation, very stylized and "romantic"...the unison start by the male voices is "wow grabe!"...SSAATTBB siya...medyo malabo sa chorale kasi kaunti ang guys.

Monteverdi
Oct 19, 2000, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by choirmaster

I have a recording of the Monteverdi Choir of JE Gardiner, some pieces maganda, some are chaka.


Uy! What CD of the Monteverdi Choir do you have? Yan ang pinaka-virtuoso na English choir na narinig ko...siyempre, namesake diba? Clap for your own, hehehe...One of the best baroque choirs you'll ever hear!

Monteverdi
Oct 19, 2000, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by papabur
hey there!!! i have been busy lately dito sa office kaya di ako nakapost.

monteverdi: i bet pareho nga tayo ng hs...thats the on across makati cinema square-sobrang familiar ka kasi--siguro youre one batch ahead of me...neway, can i just tell you that we had the chance to sing exultate deo of poulenc last 1995. it was one of our required pieces in our competition in spittal, austria...pagkatapos nun...sinumpa na siya ng group :) im not a wizard or an expert in choral singing, pero what i noticed about his work is ang hilig niya sa clashes!!! pero the ironic thing is...kabit naman siya-hehehehe... change topic-have you heard of the jubilate girls choir? we had the chance to hear them when we competed in arnhem. sila ang kinatakutan namin non...the quality was so enchanting and there was one soloist...cant forget her! galing! to date, sya pa lang ang naririnig kong nagsustain ng ganong kahaba...if ever you come across their cd or web site or whatever, pakisabi na lang :)



WHO ARE YOU? I swear di kita kilala! From batch Chorale batch 95 siguro 2 lang kilala ko...Juravit is one...the other, eh hindi naman ata Bosconian yun...besides di ko kilala ang mga chorale nung nasa DLSU pa ako :) Mga last year ko na lang sila nakilala, of course Batch 99 na...paano mo ako nakilala? dali, kasi ayokong may anxiety attack! Ask one your choirmates...paranoid talaga ako! :)

Sikat nga yang mga Jubilate Girls na yan dahil duun sa parang walang katapusang solo...parang ganun din sa Trinity College when they sang Barber's Agnus Dei...the sopranos held high Bb for what seemed like 12 seconds...as in! mga alien sila! :D

If you listen to RIAS Kammerchor sing that Exultate Deo, you 'd never believe may clashes (dissonance) ang kanta kasi sobrang perfect ang intonation nila...para silang kumanta ng Bahay Kubo o ABC...ganun sila katindi...as Choirmaster said, effortless ang delivery kasi super tama yung placement ng boses!

animo_92
Oct 19, 2000, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by karen_c
2Boccelli: Ano ka ba? Ginulo mo lang ang sarili mo... hindi si whoopie si ate shawie... wag mo na akong isama sa choices mo kung iniisip mo pa rin kung sino si whoopie... ako na ang magbibigay ng clue sa yo... malapit sya sa inyo nakatira pero malayo... hehe... sana nga makasama ka na sa Valentine concert... comment about Huling El Bimbo? Hindi ko na maalala... tagal ko nang hindi narinig eh. Sana marinig ko ulit. From what i remember, kuwela siya at VIVOCIOUS ang soloista!!! ;)



sa dlsu chorale ba ito? i heard them sing Huling El Bimbo nung anniv concert nila and kuwela nga...nag0stick din sa mind ko yung Sing a Song of Sixpence, When Will I See You Again, saka isa pang kanta (Tagalog) na may sumigaw pang guy ng "DARNA!" (hmmm, i think he's straight, hehehe)

Monteverdi
Oct 19, 2000, 12:37 PM
TO EVERYONE: :)

I believe the MADZ will have a concert at the end of the month at the CCP. They will be performing with the Philippine Philharmonic Orchestra. They'll be doing Bach's Magnificat. If you're familiar with the UST Singer's Psallite Deo nostro in laetitia from their 98 CD, it's actually one of the choruses from this magnificent work (albeit, iba yung text). Watch out for it!

papabur
Oct 19, 2000, 01:27 PM
Monteverdi: There were only three (3) of us who were fortunate enough to tour twice both with Batch 1995 and Batch 1999. Kasama ko si Juravit doon. And the fact that you mentioned "Bosconian", tama ako...bosconian ka rin nga :) yung isa sigurong sinasabi mo taga san beda. ako yung pangatlo...yung hindi mo kilala...yung bosconian...ipagtanong-tanong mo na lang sa '99 kung sino ang pinakamatagal na sa chorale nung umalis kami :) makukuha mo rin yun...dont be too anxious k?

anyway, if that was the way RIAS Kammerchor executed the song...BIBO talaga sila! do you know any choir who already sang Dolcissima mia vita?

got to go!

choirmaster
Oct 19, 2000, 04:38 PM
Alam niyo mga pare ko, medyo huli na nga yang mga piyesang pinag-uusapan ninyo. To cite a few:

Richte mich, Gott - sung by naiwang Madz members (nagtour kasi sila) and AILM Chorale under Jojo Velasco in 1994.

Agnus Dei Barber - kinanta ng UPSA at Ed Manguiat sa International Choral Festival noong 1998 (I was really impressed then with their sound and interpretation).

Suite de Lorca Rautavaara/ Blue Bird Stanford/ As I crossed a bridge of dreams Anne Boyd - premiered by the PCC and Jojo V. in 1998.

Agnus Dei Penderecki/ Magnificat Giles Swayne/ A new heaven and a new earth Sandstrom - premiered by the AILM Chorale under Jojo V. in 1995 at the Bamboo Organ Festival.

Dapat mag-introduce pa tayo ng mga bagong piyesa at premieres to death ang gawin natin, nang hindi tayo naluluma!

Anybody want to attack Schoenberg, Petrassi (pinaglumaan na ng madz way back 60s and early 70s), Toledo (ching!), Jeffrey Ching (lalong ching!), Arvo Pärt, John Tavener and others? hehehe!!!

Monteverdi
Oct 19, 2000, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by choirmaster

Anybody want to attack Schoenberg, Petrassi (pinaglumaan na ng madz way back 60s and early 70s), Toledo (ching!), Jeffrey Ching (lalong ching!), Arvo Pärt, John Tavener and others? hehehe!!!



Sana...

1. Kung may piyesa diba?

Some works are commissioned by specific choirs for specific occassions. Baka ayaw pa nilang mag publish ng piyesa. Besides, most of these composers are still alive. I know one...ayaw niyang ipamigay yung piyesa ng gawa niya kasi feeling niya masisira lang yung composition niya dahil baka hindi ma perform ng maayos...

2. Kung may audience

Contemporary works have a limited audience. Even yung mga classics di ma-appreciate ng iba. Yung Miserere ni Allegri nung kinanta sa parish namin, nagalit pa yung ibang tao! Ang haba raw at di maintindihan yung salita (nye!) LOL :D

3. Kung may kaya at mag persevere

Choirs have severe limitations when attempting to perform difficult music, as compared to an orchestra or any instrumental ensemble. A pianist knows what key to depress, a violinist knows where to fret the strings, a flautist knows what hole/s to cover, etc. A choral singer needs a strong sense of tonic, because for many singers determining a note such as la (A=440) is not as easy as spotting something like 'this is color blue!'. Kaya madali kantahin ang hymns kasi somehow there is a strong, "normal", sense of keys and chord progressions/cadences.

20th century works, in stark contrast, usually are written using 2 keys (bitonal). Some use serialism, the 12 tone system (like Schoenberg), still others are written without any key at all (absolute absence of a tonic center). Schoenberg's works are so often performed miserably even by the world's best choirs kasi sobrang labo ng direction. Performances are described as "fuzzy," and usually get unfavorable reviews. Why? Kasi choirs can't seem to stay in tune. Penderecki's Cherubim Hymn, another 20th century work, seems conceptually ok...but the King's College Choir made it sound as if it was a grand cat fight in the middle of the night! Think clash galore!

I love Arvo Part...ok yung I am the True Vine, Magnificat and Berliner Messe. Si Tavener ok rin...love his Little Lamb and Song for Athene. Ditto for Stravisnsky and his Credo...I have nothing against 20th century composers ha! Talagang mahirap lang ang works nila and for our choirs medyo impractical yung ibang works. Tame na nga yung gawa ni Poulenc kasi at least melodic pa yung mga yun...like that Exultate Deo.

Kaya nga eto yung special niche ng Philippine Chamber Choir. They really strive to do those hard, "unsingable" works. You go to their concerts expecting at least one avant-garde, unfriendly to the ear choral work. And it's up to the listener to decide if he likes it or not.

Sometimes even the best is not enough. To cite:

The Album: Evocation of the Spirit
Repertoire: Barber's Agnus Dei, Gorecki's Totus Tuus, Martin's Mass for Double Choir, Schoenberg's Friede auf Erden
By: Robert Shaw Festival Chorus

Here, you have America's finest choral conductor (a legend actually) handling a select group of singers. The members are choir conductors themselves, music graduates, perfect sight readers, and very dedicated. They are strictly selected for their exceptional abilities.

On their other CDs, they are really superb. But on this particular one, on every song, they seem to have a problem keeping pitch! Barber's Agnus Dei suffers from severe intonation problems towards the end and it is quite muddy na!

Oh well, sometimes I feel works like these can really make a great choir look bad on certain days.

whoopie
Oct 19, 2000, 05:50 PM
hey there everyone!

Bocelli: Omigosh!! Tayo talaga yun?! Naintriga ko bigla a. I wanna hear! We're counting the days....=)

Monteverdi: Actually, di ko na maalala kung pano namin kinanta yung Dungdunguen Canto sa WSCM. Anyway, thanks na rin kasi sabi mo ganda siya and ok ang soprano dun. Talagang the best ah?! Di mo ko kilala? Shucks, kilala pa naman kita!! Kung sino mang magandang nilalang ang hinala mo, malamang ako na nga yun!=)

Papabur: Tenks tenks! That's what friends are for! Wala naman sa ganda yan eh. Pero totoo?! Haha! Wala na kong magagawa, TRUE LOVE eh. Pero malay natin....hehe (asa pa me!) Someday, my prince will come.... (snow white version with matching vibrato-2-d-max)=)

Byee!

Boccelli
Oct 19, 2000, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by Monteverdi
Originally posted by choirmaster

Anybody want to attack Schoenberg, Petrassi (pinaglumaan na ng madz way back 60s and early 70s), Toledo (ching!), Jeffrey Ching (lalong ching!), Arvo Pärt, John Tavener and others? hehehe!!!



Sana...

1. Kung may piyesa diba?

Some works are commissioned by specific choirs for specific occassions. Baka ayaw pa nilang mag publish ng piyesa. Besides, most of these composers are still alive. I know one...ayaw niyang ipamigay yung piyesa ng gawa niya kasi feeling niya masisira lang yung composition niya dahil baka hindi ma perform ng maayos...

2. Kung may audience

Contemporary works have a limited audience. Even yung mga classics di ma-appreciate ng iba. Yung Miserere ni Allegri nung kinanta sa parish namin, nagalit pa yung ibang tao! Ang haba raw at di maintindihan yung salita (nye!) LOL :D

3. Kung may kaya at mag persevere

Choirs have severe limitations when attempting to perform difficult music, as compared to an orchestra or any instrumental ensemble. A pianist knows what key to depress, a violinist knows where to fret the strings, a flautist knows what hole/s to cover, etc. A choral singer needs a strong sense of tonic, because for many singers determining a note such as la (A=440) is not as easy as spotting something like 'this is color blue!'. Kaya madali kantahin ang hymns kasi somehow there is a strong, "normal", sense of keys and chord progressions/cadences.

20th century works, in stark contrast, usually are written using 2 keys (bitonal). Some use serialism, the 12 tone system (like Schoenberg), still others are written without any key at all (absolute absence of a tonic center). Schoenberg's works are so often performed miserably even by the world's best choirs kasi sobrang labo ng direction. Performances are described as "fuzzy," and usually get unfavorable reviews. Why? Kasi choirs can't seem to stay in tune. Penderecki's Cherubim Hymn, another 20th century work, seems conceptually ok...but the King's College Choir made it sound as if it was a grand cat fight in the middle of the night! Think clash galore!

I love Arvo Part...ok yung I am the True Vine, Magnificat and Berliner Messe. Si Tavener ok rin...love his Little Lamb and Song for Athene. Ditto for Stravisnsky and his Credo...I have nothing against 20th century composers ha! Talagang mahirap lang ang works nila and for our choirs medyo impractical yung ibang works. Tame na nga yung gawa ni Poulenc kasi at least melodic pa yung mga yun...like that Exultate Deo.

Kaya nga eto yung special niche ng Philippine Chamber Choir. They really strive to do those hard, "unsingable" works. You go to their concerts expecting at least one avant-garde, unfriendly to the ear choral work. And it's up to the listener to decide if he likes it or not.

Sometimes even the best is not enough. To cite:

The Album: Evocation of the Spirit
Repertoire: Barber's Agnus Dei, Gorecki's Totus Tuus, Martin's Mass for Double Choir, Schoenberg's Friede auf Erden
By: Robert Shaw Festival Chorus

Here, you have America's finest choral conductor (a legend actually) handling a select group of singers. The members are choir conductors themselves, music graduates, perfect sight readers, and very dedicated. They are strictly selected for their exceptional abilities.

On their other CDs, they are really superb. But on this particular one, on every song, they seem to have a problem keeping pitch! Barber's Agnus Dei suffers from severe intonation problems towards the end and it is quite muddy na!

Oh well, sometimes I feel works like these can really make a great choir look bad on certain days.


Monteverdi... you know what.. you never cease to amaze me with your knowledge of these things.... saang libro mo ba napagkukukuha yang mga sinusulat mo... hehehehe... just kidding!!!...

I always get to know new things I never learned before.

Anyhoo, to CHOIRMASTER, i actually know that Richte has been sung by other choirs shempre leading the pack would be the MADZ and I know ACGC sings it.. it was just wondering about audience reactions to it. Is it well appreciated or not.

I have a question to post, should we perform songs that audience can appreciate(pop, famous classical, famous folk, etc.) or should we perform songs to help them appreciate newer and more contemporary works(like the ones you guys mentioned)?(o, napaisip kayo no)

Personally, I love contemporary pieces. Before, I saw this young Japanese choir perform a piece I know for a fact is not German , Italian or whatever. It was Japanese but the structure and the way it was made wasn't at all "normal" or "the usual". I guess I could say it was a contemporary piece filled with intonations unimaginable, clashes galore(the ones that sound well with the music), quick mood changes, intense pianissimos and astounding fffs. All i could say was... WOW....... I wish we'd have more and more conductors/musical directors who are daring enough to at least try....

Take care!

JohnnyBBad
Oct 20, 2000, 12:59 AM
Hmmmmm I think may balak na mag-Schönberg kami for next year's Grand Prix. Good luck talaga sa amin! Ahahahahaha!!! Tapos yung 40-part motet din ni I-forget-his-name. Well, nothing is sure pa naman. And yes, the PCC will be performing Rachmaninoff's Vespers November 16, or something around that time. Tanong ko nga kay Jojo, paano nila ginagawa yung Bb below low C? Sagot niya e buka na lang ng bibig at bahala na si batman! Hahahahahaha

I'm soooooooo tense for Tolosa!!!

JohnnyBBad
Oct 20, 2000, 01:03 AM
By the way nga pala, meron kaming public farewell concert on October 22, Sunday 7:30 or 8 p.m. sa St. Andrew's Church sa loob ng AILM compund. It's for free, so come one, come, all! :)

sopranina
Oct 20, 2000, 02:49 AM
Bocelli: Surelily! Kelan ka ba uuwi? I can ask my sister to give the CD to you tapos give her the bayad nalang.

JBB: San na nga pala ang venue nung para sa parents? Vino-volunteer ni Kuya John yung bahay nung tita niya sa Ayala Heights. Usap nalang kayo, k?

Ciao, Ciao everyone!!! :)

Boccelli
Oct 20, 2000, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by sopranina
Bocelli: Surelily! Kelan ka ba uuwi? I can ask my sister to give the CD to you tapos give her the bayad nalang.

JBB: San na nga pala ang venue nung para sa parents? Vino-volunteer ni Kuya John yung bahay nung tita niya sa Ayala Heights. Usap nalang kayo, k?

Ciao, Ciao everyone!!! :)



Kewl... so how do i get in touch with her. Email me na lang at f5117@hotmail.com okler.... wipee.. maririnig ko na rin kayo.... hehehehehehehe

kinanta niyo rin pala yung Cantate Domino ni Schutz/Schultz(i kinda forgot which one.. baka ma-ching nanaman ako ni choirmaster hehehehehehehe)... kinanta namin siya sa Mendelssohn competition namin sa Germany... its a very nice piece... but to be honest... I hate it.... its kinda boring ... i heard Magnificat already(for the first time ang ignorante ko no) and now im excited to hear your group sing it!.... ang aga niyong nagpost ni JohnnyBBad ah..... is that some sort of early bird thingies... heheheheheheeheh

Sige... ingats kayo...

Monteverdi
Oct 20, 2000, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by JohnnyBBad
Hmmmmm I think may balak na mag-Schönberg kami for next year's Grand Prix. Good luck talaga sa amin! Ahahahahaha!!! Tapos yung 40-part motet din ni I-forget-his-name. Well, nothing is sure pa naman. And yes, the PCC will be performing Rachmaninoff's Vespers November 16, or something around that time. Tanong ko nga kay Jojo, paano nila ginagawa yung Bb below low C? Sagot niya e buka na lang ng bibig at bahala na si batman! Hahahahahaha

I'm soooooooo tense for Tolosa!!!

Talaga?! The name of that 40-part motet is Spem in Alium by Thomas Tallis (It's a grand masterpiece of the Renaissance, scored for eight SATBB choirs). Sobra, sana matuloy kasi ang grande talaga ng kanta na yan! Haunting na majestic!!!

Si Jojo V. :) Talagang kwela pala s'ya! I wish someday I could meet him kasi magaling talaga siya! I'll lookout for that "batman." [Alam mo yung bass singer ng Take 6, si Alvin Chea, kayang kaya mag low Ab! Di ko rin ma-confirm, pero may bass daw before ang King's Singers na umabot ng low G!!! Grabe, mga moo-moo na sila!]

Sana, since you get to talk to him (Jojo), please post here the details of that Rachmaninov concert by the PCC.

Relax ka lang :) That fact that you get to represent our people AND the city of Tours should be reward enough for you! Good luck to the AGC...we are all praying for your success.

Monteverdi
Oct 20, 2000, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by whoopie

Monteverdi: Actually, di ko na maalala kung pano namin kinanta yung Dungdunguen Canto sa WSCM. Anyway, thanks na rin kasi sabi mo ganda siya and ok ang soprano dun. Talagang the best ah?! Di mo ko kilala? Shucks, kilala pa naman kita!! Kung sino mang magandang nilalang ang hinala mo, malamang ako na nga yun!=)



Hello Whoopie :) Sino ka? Paano mo nasabing kilala mo ako? Are you sure you've got the right person? Anyway, di talaga kita kilala...eh, ang hirap pa naman kasi lahat kayo maganda! (bolero no?)

Diba you sang that Dungdunguen Canto song nung homecoming ninyo? We have a tape of that kasi eh...ewan, baka I might have the wrong song...

To Karen_C

Hello! Uy! Mabait ka pala...akala ko dati snob ka... I guess mali pala ako...di lang kasi kita kilala talaga :)

Monteverdi
Oct 20, 2000, 04:51 PM
To papabur [/i]

Hello!!! Ikaw ba yung taga-Citibank? I didn't know that you were a Bosconian pala...

...naku, baka mali ang hinala ko! hehehe! Si Juravit kasi ayaw pang sabihin eh!

Monteverdi
Oct 20, 2000, 05:21 PM
Chika lang kung gaano ka loko yang Schoenberg na yan...This is a review of the Netherlands Chamber Choir, an accomplished professional ensemble supported by the Danish Government (the choir recently celebrated its 60th anniv), where they sang some of Schoenberg's works...(the review was by Gramophone Magazine):


"None of this music is easy to perform, and although the Netherlands Chamber Choir is not new to recording one is soon aware that Schoenberg is not their normal diet. Reinbert de Leeuw often adopts fairly cautious tempos, but ensemble is not always tidy, and the sopranos, in particular, seem strained at times (not just with high notes). Nor is the balance of the parts always clear, with a resonant recorded sound which can blur the individual lines, though for some items—notably the Op. 28 Satires—the acoustic is distinctly drier...The music's great beauty is blunted by too monotonous a rendering, and even though the textures are reasonably clear the effect is to stress the academic surface of Schoenberg's contrapuntal virtuosity while missing the rich emotion which these artfully expressive pieces embody..."


Duh! Choir killer yan si Schoenberg! hehehe joke lang... mahirap lang talaga intindihin yung style niya (12-tone system).

Monteverdi
Oct 20, 2000, 05:26 PM
Sinong may piyesa ng A Cappella Praise vol.2? :)

choirmaster
Oct 20, 2000, 11:43 PM
MONTEVERDI: Iba ka ring klaseng magsulat! Puwede ka nang magtayo ng klase on choral lit! Alam mo bang na-perform na ang Martin's Mass for double choir dito sa Pilipinas? 1994, I think, with AILM Chorale and Madz under Martin Behrmann. Hirap lang, pagkatapos i-perform itong mga works na ito, pahinga muna dahil walang ibang occasion para kantahin siya.

Have you guys heard of this choral clinic to be held at the CCP starting Monday? Ba't parang ngayon ko lang narinig? Huli na naman sa balita... Madz and Mam OA daw will hold the clinic.

Anyway, di yata't kailangan nang magsimula ng isa pang forum, kasi mukha yatang nagdigress na tayo sa original na forum question?

Monteverdi
Oct 21, 2000, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by choirmaster
MONTEVERDI: Iba ka ring klaseng magsulat! Puwede ka nang magtayo ng klase on choral lit! Alam mo bang na-perform na ang Martin's Mass for double choir dito sa Pilipinas? 1994, I think, with AILM Chorale and Madz under Martin Behrmann. Hirap lang, pagkatapos i-perform itong mga works na ito, pahinga muna dahil walang ibang occasion para kantahin siya.

Have you guys heard of this choral clinic to be held at the CCP starting Monday? Ba't parang ngayon ko lang narinig? Huli na naman sa balita... Madz and Mam OA daw will hold the clinic.

Anyway, di yata't kailangan nang magsimula ng isa pang forum, kasi mukha yatang nagdigress na tayo sa original na forum question?

Really? Oh well, sana marinig uli dito kasi maganda yang Mass na yan...actually, the Westminster Cathedral Choir recently won a Gramophone Record of the Year for their recording of Frank Martin's Mass for Double Choir. Yung Gramophone is sort of Classical Music's Oscars/Grammys. And it's striking kasi minsan lang manalo ang choral cd ng record of the year. Somehow for professional choirs ito na yung sort of "competition" nila. John Eliot Gardiner and his Monteverdi Choir has won about 3 or 4 awards na nga! [Sobra pag naalala ko yung di nagbalik ng CD ko nila, napipikon talaga ako! :mad:]

Ikaw ba taga AILM? What choir/s are you in? O baka kasi conductor ka nga? :) Tell us naman, baka ikaw pala si Jojo V., Maam OA, o kaya si Mark Carpio...o baka ikaw si Sir Fidel (hmmm, malabo)... :lol:

Kung may panahon lang ako, I would really want to study choral conducting in AILM...kaya lang ang layo sa amin eh (sabagay may MRT na), atsaka may work na ako... :|

Alam mo, mga first five or so pages pa lang, people figured out na silly yung original topic :silly:

At totoo ngang may workshop!

Hands on Choral Workshop for Conductors
October 23-27 CCP 10:00am - 12:00nn | 2:00pm - 5:00pm
to be led by National Artist for Music Prof. Andrea Veneracion
choirmaster of the Philippine Madrigal Singers

yun ang sabi ng CCP

JohnnyBBad
Oct 21, 2000, 11:16 PM
Yep, tuloy nga tomorrow ang farewell concert namin for Tolosa. It's free and open to the public. Sunday, October 22, 7:30 p.m. at the St. Andrew's Church, AILM Compound, E. Rodiguez Ave., Q.C. Hope to see you there folks!!!

KMnO4
Oct 22, 2000, 12:44 AM
ANO BA YAN!!!!!!:boom::boom::boom:


DI pa ba kayo nagsaswa sa kaka- compare ng schools? TAPOS NA ANG UAAP bakit sinama nyo pa itong chorale na ito...GRABE naman yan!!! o after ng chorale, anong sunod?:confused::confused:

guys, don't be so sensitive if some one posted an info that acknowledges his/ her school. sorry kung medyo nagkamali sya ng info, i believe he doesn't mean any harm or he does not intent to degrade your school. all he's trying to imply that WE FILIPINOS have something to show-off even if we are under crisis. ang hirap kasi sa atin puro hatakan tayo pababa, halos lahat na yata ng estudyante sa mga universities naghahatakan pababa, wala naman ding mangyayari. why don't we just give ourselves a break and stop this crab mentality thing that is existing among us...

:angel:
sheeeshhh....


:cool:

Boccelli
Oct 23, 2000, 02:52 AM
hey guys,
Im here in NYC right now staying with a friend. Just checked out kung ano ang bago sa forum. I didn't know meron palang clinic na iho-hold si Mam OA. So how is everybody doing. I do hope i can maximize my second time here in NYC. Haven't been out yet. Still waiting for my friend.
Sige.... have a great week everyone. See you all soon.
Monteverdi... organize mo na yung EB natin!!...

Take care!

pyket
Oct 23, 2000, 02:56 AM
KMNO4 (aka potassium permanganate): saan nanggaling yon? may bashing pa ba dito??? alam kong walang nagpapababaan ng schools na dito? what post are you referring to? magkakaibigan na ang mga tao dito. ????

i watched the farewell concert ng acgc kagabi. oh my god!!! galeng!!! hindi ako chorister. hindi ako kumakanta. hindi ako marunong kumanta talaga. wala akong alam sa mga technicalities ng music. mahilig lang talaga ako makinig ng choral music. so wala akong karapatang magsabi tungkol sa kung anu-anong flat or off-pitch or whatever any chorister might say. i'm part of the general "babaw" population. so there. pero ito ang masasabi ko: **** ang galing ninyo... kinilabutan ako during the concert. buong-buo kayo kahit sa 16 member choir. hindi talaga tunog 16 lang. i don't know if that's a valid argument, pero ganon feeling ko. i loved the concert.

i won't go into what song i like best. teka... sige na nga. winner sa akin yung denn er hat seinen engeln befohlen --- kinalabutan ako pagpasok pa lang ng mga babae (see, i don't even know kung soprano yung kumanta, alto, o pareho pero kebs!). ****, ibang-iba na talaga. gabaq-an --- grabe lang. first time ko siyang makitang live. i heard the up madz recording from powerpuff dati, pero ****. iba talaga pag may live, at pag nakita mo. bongga ka! sorry if i can't really provide you guys with an even passing critique of the concert, layman lang nga talaga ako eh (i'm hoping powerpuff can lend a hand here, choirmaster, or any other chorister PExer who watched). pero i totally enjoyed it sobra. ****... iba na talaga ang ACGC!!! :)

galeng ninyo!!!

break a leg sa tolosa!!! sana maayos ninyo yung maliit ninyong technical thing. pero i'm sure naman, bongga pa rin whatever happens. :) yung CD ko ng tolosa recordings ninyo ha?! sopranina, beverage!!! :) paki-sabi na rin kay john p, pakopya ulit ng disc 2 ng summer tour ninyo --- nawala ko!!! pleaaaaase!?!

ingat kayo sa tolosa. :) alalahanin: wag mag shopping pag oras ng siesta. wala lang kayong mapapala. ;) ;)

Monteverdi
Oct 23, 2000, 08:58 AM
Would you believe? I spent the whole weekend with my Discman perpetually playing UST Batch 95...ulit-ulit na Cantate Domino! Galing talaga nila! At unique nga si Prof. Calalang mag patunog ng choir.

To Sopranina, Johnnybbad

Oh well, I really would have wanted to catch you guys but church activities kept me from going to Tolosa, este to St. Andrew's Church...di bale bibili na lang ako ng CD ninyo. Pwede bang magkuwento kayo? :)

Sobrang gusto kong marinig yung Mendelssohn ninyo!

Alam n'yo, sorry ha...hindi siguro ako nagbabasa ng matino o duling lang ako :cyclops: Kailan pala ang alis ninyo at when din ang dating?

Boccelli

Sino-sino ba pupunta sa EB? Ano to, ako ba mag-papakain o ikaw? hehehe :)

papabur
Oct 23, 2000, 09:55 AM
boccelli: sabi ko nga youre already in new york. anyway, the "two" already left just today. nagkaron pala ng error yung card na pinadala mo...anyway, i hope youll make the most out of nyc...enjoy and we are really looking forward to seeing you...next week :) dont forget to call from japan k? are you still able to check your e-mail from your office even though youre in nyc? keep us posted...

papabur
Oct 23, 2000, 10:27 AM
Monteverdi: yep! i used to connected with Citibank. Pero i already have a better job. anyway, ako nga yun :)

Monteverdi
Oct 23, 2000, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by papabur

Monteverdi: yep! i used to connected with Citibank. Pero i already have a better job. anyway, ako nga yun :)

Bosconian ka pala?! Di mo sinabi nung nagkikita pa tayo? Atsaka teka, paano mo nalaman na ako 'to?

papabur
Oct 23, 2000, 11:09 AM
i knew because of my choralemates...DLSU that is... you were first introduced to us by aj when we had our concert in up college of music...i think youre 1 batch ahead...i understand you went to dlsu also...been with the chorale since 94...in fact i even saw you on the chorale's last concert, pero hindi na ako performing group...lack of time due to work kasi...maybe on the chorale's next concert...tingnan natin :)

Monteverdi
Oct 23, 2000, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by papabur
i knew because of my choralemates...DLSU that is... you were first introduced to us by aj when we had our concert in up college of music...i think youre 1 batch ahead...i understand you went to dlsu also...been with the chorale since 94...in fact i even saw you on the chorale's last concert, pero hindi na ako performing group...lack of time due to work kasi...maybe on the chorale's next concert...tingnan natin :)

Yes, I remember that particular concert...That was I think the second time I saw you guys (the first was the homecoming concert).

During my studies at Taft, I guess once ko lang napnood yung chorale, nung freshman orientation (required yun eh) :) Kinanta nila yung In My Life...Ganun ako kahilig sa choirs at choral music nun :lol: walang kamalay-malay...

JohnnyBBad
Oct 23, 2000, 02:19 PM
Thanks Pyket (and sa mga PExers na nanood) for your support in watching our farewell concert. I'm glad kahit na nasiyahan ka sa palabas namin, although honestly, I know na marami pa kaming points of improvement :)

Well, the farewell thingie is over and done with. Next stop, Tolosa competitions! Please pray for us guys. When we go there, we would be representing the Philippines, and not Ateneo per se. I think this is the kind of publicicty (and honor, cross my fingers) that the Filipino nation should be getting, and not depressing, and ultimately negative stuff like kidnappings, dissention, and a supposedly curropt head of state.

powerpuffghurl
Oct 23, 2000, 02:32 PM
The performance of the Ateneo de Manila Glee Club last night at St. Andrew's was simply SPECTACULAR. Filipino audiences were given a breath-taking glimpse of the inevitable successes (slash, grandslam in all categories) the choir is to reap in November, when they compete in Tolosa, Spain.

Their repertoire (the programme of the concert basically consisted of the rep. in the categories they will be joining in Tolosa) was masterfully drafted to highlight the ONE FACTOR which should secure their slot in the topmost positions of any competition; and an indelible reputation among the other high-ranking choirs of our country. My point lingers on the theory that the one, obvious reason why Filipino choirs almost always emerge the best among others in competitions, is because of the unique and distinct CHARACTER that effortlessly flows whenever they grace the stage (this is without excluding essential factors, of course). Filipino choirs DO have character: be it the strikingly superior musicality and sensitivity (and a lot, LOT more) of the Madrigals, or the riveting fresh sound of the UST Singers, or the European-like intonation of the La Salle Chorale. All of these choirs, in one time or another, dominated competitions and festivals with the conscious (or unconscious) knowledge of these CHARCTERISTICS. Characteristics that enabled them to logically emerge among others excelling in the same field. In fact, without putting too much emphasis on the achievements of the Filipino choir, the BEST choirs always DO possess a certain character within themselves.

Which leads me back to the Ateneo Glee Club. They are a thinking choir. This is not meant to diss others that they are not thinking while singing. I simply mean this is the character that the Ateneo Glee Club has constantly showed since way-back-dingalo, which can be attributed to the kind of discipline that their conductor has constantly imposed and required from them through the years (which goes something like, "wag ka na lang tumunog kung mali lang din gagawin mo, bobo." CHING!).

This was what i thought while listening to their "newly overhauled" German sound (as in, i'm not kidding, hindi na sila tunog Pilipino). Sixteen people emerged from the side of the chapel, and when they started their Musica Religiosa rep., i was simply awe-struck at the ultimate contradiction that they've managed to resolve: of constantly maintaining a thick, rich, and luscious sound with only 16 voices. This fact was evident in their excellent renditions of Denn er hat seinen Engeln befolden and Magnificat(easily, their signature songs), which exhibited their uniue expertise in both the legato and rhythmic passages. The quality of their forte's is also interesting to note, as they've managed to emmit a sound bordering between forceful and inoffensive, loud and warm, and is always constantly densely-packed. A testament to this claim is evident in their intelligent renditions of O Vos Omnes (i personally like the plain-song treatment), and Sanctus. In both songs, their sheer lightness and refined handling of passages backed an interpretation that you just have to take seriously.

The choir shifts tone textures so impressively as they breezed through O Vos Omnes (Casals), Ride la primavera (Schutz), and Vineta (Brahms) - 3 songs religiously requiring different executions. Their rendition of the Basque peice Mendekoste phestetan was also notable.

The repertoire ends with a superb rendition of Federizon's Gabaq-an, which i was personally skeptic about at first. The song is unwrittenly owned by the Madz, entertaining us Filipino choir-lovers with their distinct interpretation of the tour de force piece. The Glee CLub decided, as always, to attack the song as the peice originally requires it. And as a result, a remarkably resurrected interpretation of Federizon's genuis, which inculcates theatrical elements to creatively and effectively pursue imagery in a choral work.

Of course, hindi mawawala and mga sablay in intonation, and mga pumapaltos na boses - but hey, hindi Filipino choir ang isang Filipino choir kung wala silang problema sa mga aspetong ito. However, the point resides in the degree at which these are commited, and it didn't damage (or even distract) the audience from appreciating other, more relevant aspects of their performance.

Their intelligent, and often definitive, approach to their competition peices, backed by an equally compelling sound should reserve them another spot in the European Grand Prix.

Good luck guys! (pwera usog...) :)

Boccelli
Oct 23, 2000, 02:39 PM
Hey papabur,
I can't access my office email coz its a totally different server. Oh well, Im here with my friend na in Brooklyn. I'm probably gonna meet the others tomorrow or Tuesday. Anyways, alam mo bang wala kaming soprano ngayon. So baka ang dating is mala King's Singers kami at ako ang soprano part.... apat lang kami.... waaaaaa. takot ako..... one of the songs pa naman is Exultate Deo so i have to remember the soprano parts for that... ok na ako sa Our Father at Laudate Domino.... ano pa ba.... buti na lang walang Jubilate Deo(sheryl and vina) hehehehehehe...

I have been listening to CDs lately and to be honest i can't wait to go back home at kumanta... my voice box is itching to sing na!! sige na po at 3AM na dito..

Take care and keep me posted!

papabur
Oct 23, 2000, 03:30 PM
boccelli: hey there!!! i thought you would never check PEx. sige for the meantime, eto muna ang gagawin kong e-mail mo :) take care sa big apple and enjoy. inggit nga ako sa dalawa...we were supposed to see ateneo yesterday but it was their despidida (a lame excuse para magpabigay ng mga padala :)) anyway, really cant wait till you come back. next friday na ang miss saigon stint natin!!! :D update mo ko kung kamusta ang wedding. i think pupunta si ate bevs (do you remember her? - sa canticle?) sa kasal so baka hindi matupad ang ambisyon mong maging soprano :( see you soon...

* sorry kung ginawa na naming e-mail to...boccelli kasi couldnt access his usual e-mail and this is the only medium that we could reach him. FYI :)

Monteverdi
Oct 23, 2000, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by powerpuffghurl
The performance of the Ateneo de Manila Glee Club last night at St. Andrew's was simply SPECTACULAR. Filipino audiences were given a breath-taking glimpse of the inevitable successes (slash, grandslam in all categories) the choir is to reap in November, when they compete in Tolosa, Spain.

Their repertoire (the programme of the concert basically consisted of the rep. in the categories they will be joining in Tolosa) was masterfully drafted to highlight the ONE FACTOR which should secure their slot in the topmost positions of any competition; and an indelible reputation among the other high-ranking choirs of our country. My point lingers on the theory that the one, obvious reason why Filipino choirs almost always emerge the best among others in competitions, is because of the unique and distinct CHARACTER that effortlessly flows whenever they grace the stage (this is without excluding essential factors, of course). Filipino choirs DO have character: be it the strikingly superior musicality and sensitivity (and a lot, LOT more) of the Madrigals, or the riveting fresh sound of the UST Singers, or the European-like intonation of the La Salle Chorale. All of these choirs, in one time or another, dominated competitions and festivals with the conscious (or unconscious) knowledge of these CHARCTERISTICS. Characteristics that enabled them to logically emerge among others excelling in the same field. In fact, without putting too much emphasis on the achievements of the Filipino choir, the BEST choirs always DO possess a certain character within themselves.

Which leads me back to the Ateneo Glee Club. They are a thinking choir. This is not meant to diss others that they are not thinking while singing. I simply mean this is the character that the Ateneo Glee Club has constantly showed since way-back-dingalo, which can be attributed to the kind of discipline that their conductor has constantly imposed and required from them through the years (which goes something like, "wag ka na lang tumunog kung mali lang din gagawin mo, bobo." CHING!).

This was what i thought while listening to their "newly overhauled" German sound (as in, i'm not kidding, hindi na sila tunog Pilipino). Sixteen people emerged from the side of the chapel, and when they started their Musica Religiosa rep., i was simply awe-struck at the ultimate contradiction that they've managed to resolve: of constantly maintaining a thick, rich, and luscious sound with only 16 voices. This fact was evident in their excellent renditions of Denn er hat seinen Engeln befolden and Magnificat(easily, their signature songs), which exhibited their uniue expertise in both the legato and rhythmic passages. The quality of their forte's is also interesting to note, as they've managed to emmit a sound bordering between forceful and inoffensive, loud and warm, and is always constantly densely-packed. A testament to this claim is evident in their intelligent renditions of O Vos Omnes (i personally like the plain-song treatment), and Sanctus. In both songs, their sheer lightness and refined handling of passages backed an interpretation that you just have to take seriously.

The choir shifts tone textures so impressively as they breezed through O Vos Omnes (Casals), Ride la primavera (Schutz), and Vineta (Brahms) - 3 songs religiously requiring different executions. Their rendition of the Basque peice Mendekoste phestetan was also notable.

The repertoire ends with a superb rendition of Federizon's Gabaq-an, which i was personally skeptic about at first. The song is unwrittenly owned by the Madz, entertaining us Filipino choir-lovers with their distinct interpretation of the tour de force piece. The Glee CLub decided, as always, to attack the song as the peice originally requires it. And as a result, a remarkably resurrected interpretation of Federizon's genuis, which inculcates theatrical elements to creatively and effectively pursue imagery in a choral work.

Of course, hindi mawawala and mga sablay in intonation, and mga pumapaltos na boses - but hey, hindi Filipino choir ang isang Filipino choir kung wala silang problema sa mga aspetong ito. However, the point resides in the degree at which these are commited, and it didn't damage (or even distract) the audience from appreciating other, more relevant aspects of their performance.

Their intelligent, and often definitive, approach to their competition peices, backed by an equally compelling sound should reserve them another spot in the European Grand Prix.

Good luck guys! (pwera usog...) :)


Sayang talaga, di ako nakapanood! Talagang lungkot ako :( Ang galing mo mag describe...kung pagkain yun nagutom na ako :)

papabur
Oct 23, 2000, 04:14 PM
PIPOL: siguro sikat na ang forum thread na ito ("Sinong pinakamagaling na university choral group ng Pilipinas?") Our thread is featured in myphilippines.com-a new Philippine search portal-sa hot forums for the month nila...personally, i find that our thread title is no longer appropriate because differences are not discussed here anymore but instead we celebrate, relive and share commonalities and interests on the experiences and knowledge that we possess, that is, choral singing. we should also not exclude our fellow choral groups outside metro manila...given the resources, they can also make it big in the european choral scene. sayang lang nga, few are fortunate enough to experience competing internationally :)

pyket
Oct 23, 2000, 05:27 PM
powerpuffghurl: kita mo, sabi ko sa 'yo, laglag panty ang mga review mo eh. hehehehehe... winner ka talaga ate! buo ang sunday mo no? isipin mo: nakipag-away ka nung umaga, kumanta ka at pinuri nung hapon, siniraan ka nung late afternoon, nagkita tayo kagabi (ching!), winner yung glee club concert, nakakita ka ng bulalakaw (literally), kumain tayo sa burgoos, naka-sight ka ng gwapo (ching ulit!), tapos all the while exams mo the following day!!! bongga ano?! :) :) seriously, nasiyahan ako kagabi kasama kayo. ayun. ching! ;) pero di ba somehow the concert and the "gimmick" afterwards made up for the stresses that day? nakaka-melt ng anxiety yung concert. i swear.

johnnybbad: hello! aba in-acknowledge ako! :) salamat sa concert ninyo. :) at alam ko namang marami pa kayang maaayos at mabubuti sa pagkanta ninyo eh. kayo pa! :) incredibly dedicated people, once they reach the limits of their dreams, break them, and create new ones... as i am sure it is with the glee club. good luck talaga sa tolosa. pagdadasal ko kayo.

sopranina: galeng mo ateeeeeeeeh!!! :) yuck, labas uli tayo pagkatapos ng welcome-home concert ninyo sa november! :) CPK naman! ching! ay, pakisabi kay chris, ingat siya ha. pataba siya sa tolosa. kain siyang maraming hamon. :)

Monteverdi
Oct 23, 2000, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by papabur
PIPOL: siguro sikat na ang forum thread na ito ("Sinong pinakamagaling na university choral group ng Pilipinas?") Our thread is featured in myphilippines.com-a new Philippine search portal-sa hot forums for the month nila...personally, i find that our thread title is no longer appropriate because differences are not discussed here anymore but instead we celebrate, relive and share commonalities and interests on the experiences and knowledge that we possess, that is, choral singing. we should also not exclude our fellow choral groups outside metro manila...given the resources, they can also make it big in the european choral scene. sayang lang nga, few are fortunate enough to experience competing internationally :)


Yung Himig Choir, hailing from Davao, under Alvin Aviola(?) won first place in Cantonigros, Spain in 1997 :)

JohnnyBBad
Oct 23, 2000, 05:55 PM
More accurately, Himig Singers from Davao. Consistently the top prize winner in the college division in the NAMCYA competitions, they went on a European tour in 1997, where they garnered, among other prizes, the 1st prize in the Polyphnic Divion in Cantonigros, Spain. Alvin "Max" Aviola, their conductor, was one of the star basses of the Glee Club during the '81 and '83 batches, along with Arnel De Pano, Moy Ortiz, and I Jun-forget-his-surname.

KMnO4
Oct 23, 2000, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by pyket
KMNO4 (aka potassium permanganate): saan nanggaling yon? may bashing pa ba dito??? alam kong walang nagpapababaan ng schools na dito? what post are you referring to? magkakaibigan na ang mga tao dito. ????

i watched the farewell concert ng acgc kagabi. oh my god!!! galeng!!! hindi ako chorister. hindi ako kumakanta. hindi ako marunong kumanta talaga. wala akong alam sa mga technicalities ng music. mahilig lang talaga ako makinig ng choral music. so wala akong karapatang magsabi tungkol sa kung anu-anong flat or off-pitch or whatever any chorister might say. i'm part of the general "babaw" population. so there. pero ito ang masasabi ko: **** ang galing ninyo... kinilabutan ako during the concert. buong-buo kayo kahit sa 16 member choir. hindi talaga tunog 16 lang. i don't know if that's a valid argument, pero ganon feeling ko. i loved the concert.

i won't go into what song i like best. teka... sige na nga. winner sa akin yung denn er hat seinen engeln befohlen --- kinalabutan ako pagpasok pa lang ng mga babae (see, i don't even know kung soprano yung kumanta, alto, o pareho pero kebs!). ****, ibang-iba na talaga. gabaq-an --- grabe lang. first time ko siyang makitang live. i heard the up madz recording from powerpuff dati, pero ****. iba talaga pag may live, at pag nakita mo. bongga ka! sorry if i can't really provide you guys with an even passing critique of the concert, layman lang nga talaga ako eh (i'm hoping powerpuff can lend a hand here, choirmaster, or any other chorister PExer who watched). pero i totally enjoyed it sobra. ****... iba na talaga ang ACGC!!! :)

galeng ninyo!!!

break a leg sa tolosa!!! sana maayos ninyo yung maliit ninyong technical thing. pero i'm sure naman, bongga pa rin whatever happens. :) yung CD ko ng tolosa recordings ninyo ha?! sopranina, beverage!!! :) paki-sabi na rin kay john p, pakopya ulit ng disc 2 ng summer tour ninyo --- nawala ko!!! pleaaaaase!?!

ingat kayo sa tolosa. :) alalahanin: wag mag shopping pag oras ng siesta. wala lang kayong mapapala. ;) ;)

i'm just referring doon sa mga nakapost earlier...have a nice day!!:smokin: