University Chorale Groups

[mackoydeleon]

PUP Bagong Himig

[realized]

baket wala nanaman members and CHOPA? baket kaya lagi nawawalan? peace!!

anyway, i watched SMMC ..*** friday show nila.. it was okay...ganda ng tunog as always...AT ang linis ah! ang linis ng songs....some songs lang i dnt like 2lad ng iniibig kita..i expected for a "better" rendition pero i still like the madz all-male kahit minsan medyo telenovelic and tempo nila...nandun *** feel sa words and the usual madz hagod...tska ang falsettos ng mga lola nating tenors sa SMMC ah (medyo di msydo carry pero siguro di lang keri mag pop ng mga lola naten!) bongaa pa din ang tunog...more eudy concerts!!!

ACS...bongga! hanep! wow..sir jojo., thanks sa mga sinabi mO!whitacre and palaruan..tao ba kayo? ang dameng basses ahhhhh!!!! wa ako say sa sopranos! bilib ako! whew...

UE concert daw this weekend..i heard somewhere in qc..anybody who knows the details?

MADZ din daw sa ccp in 17...2 shows daw eh...i dnt know *** afternoon show but 8pm ang gala show...may guests daw sila eh...

oh? ano ng balita sa ust singers? go ba sila/kayo sa tolosa?

a friend of mine told me that UPCC will compete sa germany..goodluck! kahit wala akong kilala sa inyo...

a children's choir festival on the 16th daw sa UP music...

october na!! wala bang marian et al and madz??? i want to hear Lauridsen again...

ano yang PUP bagong Himig? bagong choir???

hindi ako nakapanood ng novo concertante!!! sayang....

nasan ang San Beda?

siya, dito lang muna...research muna lola niyo! mabuhay ang koristang pinoY!

[Introvert_S]

I want Lauridsen!!!!


anyway, yung madz schedule sa Saturday sa CCP ay 3 pm and 8 pm.... hmmmmmm magpapagabi ba ako o hindi?

kita kits! good luck to the pinoy choirs!!!

[realized]

ayy...17 is a sunday yata Introvert_S! sunday *** show... =)....watch akez!!

[realized]

i saw the poster sa up music... sa harap...guests are annie nep(3-of-a-kind, former madz)...isay alvarez..robert sena..montet acoymo will be there...ballet philippines...douglas nierras powerdance....etc... exciting!!!! see yah there....bili na ako ticket sa ticketworld!!

[realized]

MADZ concert was great...the UE one was also exceptional...wow...

[Introvert_S]

yup. It was a sunday pala. na-excite ako masyado. di tuloy ako nakanood....

[shulien]

Realized,

Oks lang. :) If you look at pics from ChoPa's last US Tour, you'll see that majority of the members are already abroad (mostly sa States din...). Hindi rin masisi kasi naghahanap sila ng mas magandang oportunidad at kabuhayan doon, at kung di ka umuunlad dito at may visa ka na nga naman...

Unfortunately it's much harder for church choirs to sustain membership than university choirs. When people move on (work abroad, marriage, families...), it's not that easy to replace them. Wala namang yearly supply of freshmen. Kaya nakakabilib ang mga church choirs na tumatagal nang 15 years... 20 years...

We just have to keep our fingers crossed that those who "graduate" from their college choirs would wish to join another choir, para makapag-serve pa rin at di masayang ang kanilang talento.

'yun lang po. :)

[realized]

tama shulien! have a point ah! =)

[charme]

salamat realized for watching sa concert namen last week! (UEC-late reaction eh noh) ingats po at mabuhay! hehe. = )

[realized]

i watched a madz et. al. series coro de san sebastian and MCS..it was fine..i did not enjoy that much

[GadoGado]

The Junior Philippine Conductors Association, in cooperation with the International Federation for Choral Music and the Ateneo de Manila College Glee Club, announces the First National Summit for Choral Music (NSCM), to be held on November 27, 2004 at Escaler Hall, Ateneo de Manila University.



The summit is open to all choral conductors in the Philippines, heads of colleges and conservatories of music and other music schools, as well as music coordinators and teachers who conduct choirs in their respective schools and churches.



The one-day summit aims to discuss the current needs of choral conductors in the country and to find ways of addressing these needs, primarily through the formation of a national organization of choral conductors. Also to be discussed are the Philippine participation in the International Federation for Choral Music, including the World Symposium on Choral Music to be held in Kyoto, Japan in July 2005, and Philippine representation in the World Youth Choir and other international choral organizations.



Special guests of the NSCM include Jonathan Velasco, professor at the Asian Institute for Liturgy and Music and former conductor of the World Youth Choir, and, as the guest of honor, the secretary-general of the International Federation for Choral Music, Jean Claude Wilkens, who will speak on the federations behalf. The summit will close with a fellowship dinner and concert featuring some of the countrys best choirs.



Registration starts on the day itself at 7:00 a.m. A workshop fee of P300 per person will be collected to cover meals and paraphernalia.



For inquiries, please call 445-8485 (Marilyn) or text +639175389978. You may also email philippinechoralsummit@yahoo.com. For early reservations, please email your name, postal address, choir affiliation, position held, and contact numbers.

[aksprn1]

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
Sinong nakaka-alam ng schedule ng mga concerts sa Philam this December? Sino-sinong choirs and kailan ang mga sched nila? Pati na rin yung sa San Agustin.
Thanks!

[realized]

hmm....sa dec. 18 alam ko ust singers...

[sweet_soul14]

alin po? *** xmas treats ng philamlife?
ang alam ko UE chorale sa Dec. 6 6pm.

[sweet_soul14]

hi!
thank you po sa mga nanood ng concert ng UE CHORALE last night. :D

[whitacre_fan]

watched ue last dec. 6...bago ata soloist niyo ng "from a distance". mas type ko siya kesa dun sa dati niyong soloist. parang black yung voice niya. galing!

[Dusty 'Earth']

How does one join the UST Singers? Ano 'yung requirements?

[Introvert_S]

Watch the choral groups from UP (UPSA, UPCC, PMS etc) on jan 25 7:30 pm at the CCP. pls visit the UP website for more details.

Happy Holidays!

[North_Halsted]

heard of news that the rivalry between the singing ambassadors of UP and the choir from DLSU was once again relived.

a caroling competition saw the present batch of the singing ambassadors (assumed the one who won in Arezzo) divided into three sub groups as the competition only required 10 members max while the group called coro animo (believed to be composed of dlsu choir alumni from their 99 tour batch) formed just one group.

history repeated itself when the performance of the la salle choir resulted in a hands down win and NEITHER of the three singing ambassadors subgroups went home with the first place win.

it was noticed by the other competing choirs that there was an air of disbelief coming from the singing ambassadors and that they weren't at all congratulatory towards the winning la salle group.

this seems to be worthy of a showbiz talk show news item. we're still in awe by this here in the u.s. so i don't know why the harshness of the SA camp towards their LS rivals.

[Monteverdi]

im sure bale wala yon sa dlsu group. ever since they have stood by their sound and their technique, however different it may be from other mainstream choirs. if they won that competition, they certainly didnt do so to shut out the groups from SA. as they did in europe in 95, the chorale just did their best. no intrigues or what not. they probably deserve to win because they're good.

kung bitter man yung mga natalo, eh wala nang pakiaalam yung nanalo sa kanila.

[realized]

korak ka dyan monteverdi!

[aksprn1]

"this seems to be worthy of a showbiz talk show news item. we're still in awe by this here in the u.s. so i don't know why the harshness of the SA camp towards their LS rivals."

-- i thought this has evolved into a healthier thread. Apparently, some people (usually not even the actual people involved) just can't keep intrigue out of their systems.

IGNORE. Hindi tayo mag-g-grow (tama ba yun?) diyan.

Next topic please. What's the next big choral event?

[deric73]

korek ka dyan aksprn1!

wag na lang pansinin ang mga gustong magsimula ng kung ano-anong intriga! ibaon na sa limot ang rivalry ng upsa at la salle at wala nang patutunguhan yan!





Originally posted by aksprn1

-- i thought this has evolved into a healthier thread. Apparently, some people (usually not even the actual people involved) just can't keep intrigue out of their systems.

IGNORE. Hindi tayo mag-g-grow (tama ba yun?) diyan.

Next topic please. What's the next big choral event? [/B]

[Boccelli]

Eeps.. bakit may mga ganung posts uli?

Anyways...

The next big event... BEST OF THE BEST sa CCP... malapit na!!! :) YAHOO... can't wait.

I think all the fab choirs are in Manila right now so malamang lahat sila andun sa CCP Showcase. Ang saya! Sana kasama na rin ang ACS, at yung grupo namin, uhm, yung children's choir na nanalo sa Bremen.

Let's all watch out for this one! :D

Nga pala, may hinaggard ako sa isang thread kasi nilait ba naman si Mr. C. hahahaha... siyempre natalakan ko tuloy. hihihihi.

[loneranger]

Originally posted by deric73
korek ka dyan aksprn1!

wag na lang pansinin ang mga gustong magsimula ng kung ano-anong intriga! ibaon na sa limot ang rivalry ng upsa at la salle at wala nang patutunguhan yan!

Korek ka din dyan Deric! I wonder who this guy....North_halsted? If I'm not mistaken, I think this guy had a very cheap breeding and it probably runs in their family from his great great grandparents and all the way down the present generation.

Let's keep pex clean and wholesome pls, pls, pls!!!

[ibongadarna1]

Originally posted by loneranger
Korek ka din dyan Deric! I wonder who this guy....North_halsted? If I'm not mistaken, I think this guy had a very cheap breeding and it probably runs in their family from his great great grandparents and all the way down the present generation.

Let's keep pex clean and wholesome pls, pls, pls!!!


Hi people! Buhay na naman ang inyong paboritong Tiyahin! Pero tama! Tama kayong tatlo nila Askprn1, Deric at Loneranger. Excuse me lang anoh, pwede ba? Paki delete nga sa pex ang North_Halsted na yan at kung hindi ay ipadudukot ko yan sa aking mga amiga.

[loneranger]

Originally posted by aksprn1
"this seems to be worthy of a showbiz talk show news item. we're still in awe by this here in the u.s. so i don't know why the harshness of the SA camp towards their LS rivals."

-- i thought this has evolved into a healthier thread. Apparently, some people (usually not even the actual people involved) just can't keep intrigue out of their systems.

IGNORE. Hindi tayo mag-g-grow (tama ba yun?) diyan.

Next topic please. What's the next big choral event?

Hello aksprn!.........curious lang ako, how should i pronounce your name? cute eh! Kaya lang parang kulang ng letter "i" para maging askpirin, hehehehehehe, joke lang ha! it's unique and i like it.

Anyways, ikaw ba yong kakilala kong maganda at sexy? May friendster account ka ba? I think i know you. Nakita na kita sa personal at alam kong maganda ka.

[Boccelli]

Originally posted by ibongadarna1
Excuse me lang anoh, pwede ba? Paki delete nga sa pex ang North_Halsted na yan at kung hindi ay ipadudukot ko yan sa aking mga amiga.

hahahaha... good one ibongadarna... :)

so kilala niyo na ba yung mga kasali sa Best of the Best this coming Feb?

Alis daw ang MADZ for Bangkok this coming 1st week of FEB... wishing them a good trip!! :D

[mario_lanza]

Hello Fellow Members,

I"m new in this thread and I'm announcing my membership! Where is the welcoming committee?

[mario_lanza]

Originally posted by Boccelli
Eeps.. bakit may mga ganung posts uli?

Anyways...

The next big event... BEST OF THE BEST sa CCP... malapit na!!! :) YAHOO... can't wait.

I think all the fab choirs are in Manila right now so malamang lahat sila andun sa CCP Showcase. Ang saya! Sana kasama na rin ang ACS, at yung grupo namin, uhm, yung children's choir na nanalo sa Bremen.

Let's all watch out for this one! :D

Nga pala, may hinaggard ako sa isang thread kasi nilait ba naman si Mr. C. hahahaha... siyempre natalakan ko tuloy. hihihihi.

Hello Bocelli........Btw, ikaw ba yong kasama ko dati sa Hiraya? Please send me email if you have time. I'm sure ikaw nga yon. How's life treating you? Totoo ba ang nabalitaan kong very rich daw ang fafa mo ngayon at para daw si adonis ang dating. Share naman o.

Anyways, hope to hear from you soon.

[loneranger]

How true is the rumor that the Canticle Choir is being resurrected? I was still in my grade school days when I first heard of this group during the 80's. They were fantastic! Sino sino kaya ang mga members nito kung sakali?

[aksprn1]

loneranger...

Saan mo naman napulot yan? Hasn't it been like almost a decade since their last performance? Pero grabe ha, if that rumor is true, astig yun! Nag-perform na ba sila ulit? Same members ba?

[Boccelli]

Hello.

If totoo ang resurrection ng Canticle Choir... ASTIG NA ASTIG yun. Nakakamiss ang tunog ng ganung klaseng group. Yung ensembles lang siya tapos ang kapal ng sound. Very European. :) Sana tuloy na tuloy nga yun!! EXCITED na rin ako. :)

Wait, baka kung meron ngang re-emergence of this group, baka kasama sila sa Best of the Best.... YAHOO!!! :D

[deric73]

Originally posted by loneranger
How true is the rumor that the Canticle Choir is being resurrected? I was still in my grade school days when I first heard of this group during the 80's. They were fantastic! Sino sino kaya ang mga members nito kung sakali?



ka-abang-abang nga pag natuloy yan! pero sino kaya ang magiging members ng group na yun? last ko silang napanood nun sa philam 1997 yata. grabe, sobrang galing nila!!

[Boccelli]

Originally posted by mario_lanza
Hello Bocelli........Btw, ikaw ba yong kasama ko dati sa Hiraya? Please send me email if you have time. I'm sure ikaw nga yon. How's life treating you? Totoo ba ang nabalitaan kong very rich daw ang fafa mo ngayon at para daw si adonis ang dating. Share naman o.

Anyways, hope to hear from you soon.

Hmmm... hindi ako nag Hiraya mario_lanza. Baka iba yung tinutukoy mo. :) saka re fafa.. hindi po siya rich .. wish ko na lang sana yun. hahahaha

[mario_lanza]

Originally posted by Boccelli
Hmmm... hindi ako nag Hiraya mario_lanza. Baka iba yung tinutukoy mo. :) saka re fafa.. hindi po siya rich .. wish ko na lang sana yun. hahahaha

ooooppppss! Sorry Boccelli! I think iba nga iyon at hindi ikaw. Alam ko na kung sino yon. Sorry again ha!

[theverdict1]

I wonder who the participants are in the next Samut Saring Part II. When is this going to be? How much are the tickets?

Regarding the Canticle Choir....this is one hell of a good choir during the 80s. Who would be the members this time. I don't think the former original members would still be singing in this group cause medyo matatanda na siguro ang mga iyon. Any info on the two subjects?

[rain_fear12]

I wonder who the participants are in the next Samut Saring Part II. When is this going to be? How much are the tickets?


mga choirs daw eh...
DE LA SALLE UNIVERSITY-MANILA CHORALE :handsdown:
PHILIPPINE MADRIGAL SINGERS:rpflag:
UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES CONCERT CHORUS :rocker:
ATENEO CHAMBER SINGERS :wow:
UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES SINGING AMBASSADORS :naughty:
UNIVERSITY OF SAN AGUSTIN TROUBADOURS :)
UNIVERSITY OF SANTO TOMAS SINGERS :spinstar: and the
UNIVERSITY OF THE EAST CHORALE :wink:

ayan daw po mga kasali ng choirs.. di ko alam kung magkano tickets eh...
mgkano nga ba??

[Boccelli]

Holy sh!t!!! Ang ganda ng line up!!!!!!!!! :) YEE HAW!!!!!

[loneranger]

mga choirs daw eh...
DE LA SALLE UNIVERSITY-MANILA CHORALE :handsdown:
PHILIPPINE MADRIGAL SINGERS:rpflag:
UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES CONCERT CHORUS :rocker:
ATENEO CHAMBER SINGERS :wow:
UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES SINGING AMBASSADORS :naughty:
UNIVERSITY OF SAN AGUSTIN TROUBADOURS :)
UNIVERSITY OF SANTO TOMAS SINGERS :spinstar: and the
UNIVERSITY OF THE EAST CHORALE :wink:

ayan daw po mga kasali ng choirs.. di ko alam kung magkano tickets eh...
mgkano nga ba??

This is exciting! Pero sana naman eh 100 pesos lang ang tickets.

[ibongadarna1]

This is exciting! Pero sana naman eh 100 pesos lang ang tickets.

Aba exciting talaga yan. Makakapagbilang na naman ako kung anong choral group ang may pinakamaraming "bakla"....eeeekkkkkkkkk!!! ang saya nyan. Sino nga kaya??????????? Wala bang gustong manghula!?

[theverdict1]

Aba exciting talaga yan. Makakapagbilang na naman ako kung anong choral group ang may pinakamaraming "bakla"....eeeekkkkkkkkk!!! ang saya nyan. Sino nga kaya??????????? Wala bang gustong manghula!?

I mean no offense ibongadarna but don't you find that statement of yours a little bit irresponsible and immature? I think most of the people who will attend that concert has one purpose and that's to "listen to good music".

Again, I mean no offense. Have a nice day!

[rain_fear12]

Aba exciting talaga yan. Makakapagbilang na naman ako kung anong choral group ang may pinakamaraming "bakla"....eeeekkkkkkkkk!!! ang saya nyan. Sino nga kaya??????????? Wala bang gustong manghula!?


tatahimik nlng ako..... no comment ****... :confused:

[mario_lanza]

Well, ako ay pupunta doon at makikinig, manonood, papalakpak at mag-e-enjoy...."YON LANG"

[ibongadarna1]

Oppppssss!!!!! Mukhang naka-offend yata ako ha! O sya sya, manood na lang tayo at sasarilinin ko na lang ang pagbibilang. O ayan, patawarin nyo na ako! :blush2:

By the way, nasan na ba ang mga dati kong kaibigang sila siveria at parang di na nagpaparamdam.

[angelita25]

Limited ba sa mga university choirs lang ang samut saring 2? What about the parish based choirs? Aren't they included in the program. Mahuhusay din naman sila di ba :unhappy:

[rain_fear12]

Limited ba sa mga university choirs lang ang samut saring 2? What about the parish based choirs? Aren't they included in the program. Mahuhusay din naman sila di ba :unhappy:


sa alam ko for university choirs lang yung festival na yun...
sana nga me festival for the church choirs marami ksing mgagaling na church choirs..
like
novo concertante manila
coro de sta. cecilia
chorus paulinus
manila chamber singers
marian choir of cavite
and the others...

sana nga merong festival para mkasli choir nmin...

[angelita25]

You're right! Let's give those church choirs chances din naman!

[Boccelli]

Hmm.. I believe this is the 3rd of the Samu't Saring Series. Meron nung 2002, 2003 and 2005 (sa Feb). Regarding participation of other groups, I am not really sure kung bakit puro school choirs pa lang ang kasama. Maybe sa 4th series eh Church Choirs na nakapagtour na at nanalo ang kasali dito. I.E. Yung Children's choir na tiga Greenhills. They're really good daw eh. :) Saka yung Mandaluyong Children's Choir pati na yung Loboc Children's Choir.

[angelita25]

sana nga merong festival para mkasli choir nmin...

Hi rain_fear! May I ask kung anong choir ka kasali? I'm sure isa dun sa mga nabanggit mo ang kasali ka.

[theverdict1]

Gossips are true! According to a very reliable source, resurrected na ang Canticle Choir at nag-u-umpisa na ng rehearsals. Kelan kaya ang first public appearance ng group na ito after a long absence in the choral scene? This is something to look forward.

[choir_director]

Limited ba sa mga university choirs lang ang samut saring 2? What about the parish based choirs? Aren't they included in the program. Mahuhusay din naman sila di ba :unhappy:

Hello Angelita! You're right and affirmative! Parish Choirs in the Philippines, if I may be allowed to say, are equally good as the university choirs. In fact, most of them had a chance to perform internationally already.

They are fantastic!

[chor_dirigent]

Hello Angelita! You're right and affirmative! Parish Choirs in the Philippines, if I may be allowed to say, are equally good as the university choirs. In fact, most of them had a chance to perform internationally already.

They are fantastic!

Well, I beg to dissaggree. It's quite premature to say at the moment that the parish choirs are already equally good as the university choirs. Given more time and probably in the next 4 years, but not yet this time.

Hindi ko po minamaliit ang mga parish choirs dahil meron naman po sila talagang potentials pero kailangan pa po ng mahabang paghasa.

Humihingi po ng paumanhin at gumagalang.

[loneranger]

Wow, okey ito ha! "Choir_Director versus Chor_Dirigent"!

[ibongadarna1]

Wow, okey ito ha! "Choir_Director versus Chor_Dirigent"!

Ayyyyyy, away ba toh? Ano ba ang issue at ng makasali. :surprised: Sino kaya ang mga ito ha??????? :naughty:

[nuratbelma]

Parish choirs are as equally as good as the university choirs. I know of one parish choir from cavite, yung imus choir, nakalaban nila ang up concert chorus sa arezzo, they palced 4th and upcc got the 6th place sa mixed choirs category finals. Anong ibig sabihin non? We don't have to wait for another 4 years, what for? They also won the grand prize sa neuchatel in 2003. Isn't that enough proof that parish choirs can also make it internationally? I think we just have to recognize their acheivements rather than mock on their potentials.

[chor_dirigent]

My apologies to you nuratbelma. I mean nothing and no harm in what I said and definitely not mocking on their potentials. That was entirely my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of the majority especially the musicians and conductors in this website. Hindi matagal ang 4 years pero sa ngayon ay hindi pa. That's how I look at it and I'm terribly sorry. Lucky for them to grab the 4th place, but it "doesn't necessarily mean that they are better" than UPCC.

If you would be kind enough, may I ask kung kasama ka ba sa choir na ito o ikaw yong conductor?

[ibongadarna1]

Hoy, hoy, hoy!!!!!!!!! Itigil yang mga patutsadahang yan at baka matsugi na naman tayo ng mahal nating moderator dito. Hala, both of you, get out of town at ilabas ang mga kanya kanyang fahfah kesa mag-umpisa na naman tayo ng bangayan.

O ayan na kumare ha, facifier na ako ngayon at di sumasali sa mga intrigang ito. Mabuti na lang at nakapag cursillo ako at kung hindi ay pangungunahan ko ito.

MAGSITIGIL NA!!!!!!!! Mag kamayan na lang kayo o maghipuan mas okey pa.

[theverdict1]

Baka naman pwedeng marinig natin pa muna ang magkabilang panig. Your objection is overruled, ibongadarna. Both parties were simple expressing their opinions and there were no such intrigues that I could sense in their statements.

Relax ka lang at parang ikaw yong nagi imply ng intriga eh wala naman. Magandang issue ito...........equally good and not yet equally good. Go people, express your thoughts in the subject matter.

[nuratbelma]

Would it matter to you if I am a member of that choir, or if i know them, or if i am the director? None of the above! Just read my opinion and see for yourself if i am being sensible or not. I happened to know that there's this choir existing from my UE chorale friend 2 years ago. And for your info, i sing in a church choir too (one of those mentioned in the previous replies) that's why i am reacting to what you've said. Kung ganon, you don't value the result of arezzo 2003? Saang competition ka naniniwala ngayon na ang nananalo ay magaling? Arezzo na nga yon e. Ang taas naman ata sobra ng standard mo. Bakit sa iba hindi mo matanggap na somehow they were better than the other one based sa result ng competition? Naniniwala ka bang magaling ang Ateneo when they won sa Tours, Marktoberdorf, etc. or Madz sa Torrevieja? Siguro naman oo ano cos you also know na magaling sila. E pano yung hindi mo kilala at hindi mo pa narinig? Ganon ba kadaling mag bitiw ng opinion dito sa pex?

In fact, hindi lang church choirs, there are other existing choirs all over the country who are as good as the manila-based university choirs. Andyan ang Himig Singers ng Davao na community choir at inalo rin ang UPCC sa Cantonigros during the late 90s. Don't tell me they were not better than UPCC at that time. Sorry chor_dirigent, i don't want to make this long but i just wanted you to know I certainly disagree by how you think about the church choirs here in the philippines.

[nuratbelma]

and if you may be kind enough too, may i ask kung anong choir hawak mo?

[chor_dirigent]

Dearest Nuratbelma,

You are entittled to your opinion and so am I to mine. I respect yours! Siyanga pala, lalaki ka ba o babae? Siguro we can disscuss this more over a cup of coffee kung babae ka. Pero kung lalaki ka........pustahan na lang tayo sa bilyar.

Have a nice day!

[ibongadarna1]

Dearest Nuratbelma,

You are entittled to your opinion and so am I to mine. I respect yours! Siyanga pala, lalaki ka ba o babae? Siguro we can disscuss this more over a cup of coffee kung babae ka. Pero kung lalaki ka........pustahan na lang tayo sa bilyar.

Have a nice day!

Ang swerte naman ni nuratbelma. Pwede ba chor_dirigent tayo na lang ang mag cafe. ako na lang ang mag lilibre syo at may kasama itong mahihigpit na embraces at torid kisses. Ayyyyyyyyy..... Sige na pls, pls, pls!

[nuratbelma]

See you sa bilyaran. Saan gusto mo, sa Quiapo?

[nuratbelma]

May I say something, don't ask for my identity cos I'm pretty sure na hindi mo rin kayang sabihin kung sino ka. My friends from Novo and ChoPa know you though.

[chor_dirigent]

May I say something, don't ask for my identity cos I'm pretty sure na hindi mo rin kayang sabihin kung sino ka. My friends from Novo and ChoPa know you though.

I'm not asking who you are. I'm just asking you if you're male or female, that's all. Is it big deal to you sweetie?

[mario_lanza]

Malakas ang aking intuition na sa mganda mauuwi ang usapang ito. Anong malay natin, baka bukas makalawa ay mabalitaan na lang ng mga taga pex ang ganito................... "Ikakasal na si Chor-Dirigent at Nuratbelma"!

Ngayon pa lang ay nagpiprisinta na kami ni Bocelli na kumanta ng libre. Hahahahahahaha! :)

Anong say mo ibongadarna? Payag ka ba?

[aksprn1]

hmmm... magulo to ah.

i don't think it's fair to say that the best choirs are categorized into the
university choral groups" eck eck. I'm sure all of you who are really into the choral scene would agree to this. We haven't heard every single choir in the Philippines.

Pero, regarding the Samu't -saring Tinig, if it really is simply a University Chorale Groups festival, then wala naman atang reason para magalit ang parish choirs. The reason you're not included isn't because you're not good, but because hindi kayo university group. Maybe one of you can propose a festival mainly for parish choirs. Maybe if not by CCP, maybe by AILM? That should work :)

Also, ***** yung sinasabi nilang "best of the best" is dahil all of the groups involved have been acknowledged as the "best" in the specific competitions they have joined abroad. I guess it's just to say that this is a showcase a few of those groups.

Hmm.. I don't know if it's any consolation pero sa pagkaka-alam ko, yung original plan wasn't just for university choirs, dapat marami pang ibang kasali. Don't know what happened. Baka budget and/or time constraints kaya nauwi sa isang category of singing groups na lang - "manila based university groups." Take that group mentioned, yung Himig Singers from Davao. I'm sure magaling sila, especially since nanalo na pala sila in Cantonigros, pero sino magfa-fund na pamasahe nila papuntang manila? Same goes for other award winning groups outside the region.

So don't feel bad, CCP hasn't forgotten the capabilities of other choirs. Hindi lang siguro kaya pagsama-samahin lahat ngayon.

[nuratbelma]

We are not questioning about the event at CCP next month. Hindi namin ipagpipilitang sumama sa festival na yan since it's for the best university choirs nga. The reason why i had to express our side is the fact that somebody by the name of Chor_dirigent was saying na church choirs are not yet ready to go international and they are not equally as good as the university choirs. That was my only argument. Sinasabi ko bang dapat kasama kami sa samu't sari festival? Just stick to the issue ok.

[aksprn1]

We are not questioning about the event at CCP next month. Hindi namin ipagpipilitang sumama sa festival na yan since it's for the best university choirs nga. The reason why i had to express our side is the fact that somebody by the name of Chor_dirigent was saying na church choirs are not yet ready to go international and they are not equally as good as the university choirs. That was my only argument. Sinasabi ko bang dapat kasama kami sa samu't sari festival? Just stick to the issue ok.

I am sticking to the issue. I'm also answering the question of Angelita25:

Limited ba sa mga university choirs lang ang samut saring 2? What about the parish based choirs? Aren't they included in the program. Mahuhusay din naman sila di ba

Isn't this the question that started it anyway?

There's nothing wrong with what you said and neither with mine. Don't be too defensive. I wasn't attacking your message. I simply used the choir you mentioned as an example of a group that is good, but can't be included due to various reasons. It may not have answered your concern, but I'm "hoping" that it may have helped her with hers. I wasn't questioning your reason for posting, but just because kayong dalawa ni chor_dirigent ang nag-aaway ngayon eh hindi ibig sabihin lahat ng ipo-post dito eh either kakampihan ang isa sa inyo or hindi. Pakialam ko sa inyong dalawa.

Para kang yung bata sa Tide na feeling niya lahat nagre-revolve sa kanya ... "Ako. Ako na lang na ako. Ako na naman."

Kung gusto mo na concern mo lang ang papansinin dito, magbukas ka ng sarili mong thread.

[theverdict1]

Mukhang medyo defensive nga masyado si nuratmelba. Wala tayong magagawa kung ganun nga ang opinyon ng iba. Para sa akin eh pareho lang ang university choirs or parish choirs but if other people think otherwise eh ok lang. Magkaka-iba ng pananaw ang tao at dapat na lang itong igalang.

Tingin ko nga eh may pagka-childish ka na para sabihin pang tinalo ang UPCC ng choir na ito ng cavite cause medyo may kayabangan ang dating nito. Tama din naman si Chor-Dirigent na It doesn't mean na mas magaling kayo sa UPCC.

Anyways, ito naman kasing si chor_dirigent eh. Pumapatol ka sa girl, ligawan mo na lang kung babae. Kung lalaki naman eh yan ang mukhang problema at kailangang ipaubaya mo na lang sa iba.

Ingat lang ng konti chor_dirigent at sa quipo ka hinahamon ng bilyar, mukhang muslim ito at tagilid ka.

[loneranger]

Tingin ko nga eh may pagka-childish ka na para sabihin pang tinalo ang UPCC ng choir na ito ng cavite cause medyo may kayabangan ang dating nito.

Over Defensive, Yes, pero not naman childish. Unfair yon. Understandable naman kasi if she's a member of that parish choir. Anyone would be defensive in such case and would definitely react in the same manner.

[angelita25]

I think it all started because of my post. Sorry to all. I didn't know and it never came to my mind that the question could stir up a disscussion like this. Can we set it all aside and move on? Member din ako ng isang university choir and my sister is the one who's a member of a parish choir. Sorry, di ko na lang sasabihin kung ano anong choir kami.

[aksprn1]

I think it all started because of my post. Sorry to all. I didn't know and it never came to my mind that the question could stir up a disscussion like this. Can we set it all aside and move on? Member din ako ng isang university choir and my sister is the one who's a member of a parish choir. Sorry, di ko na lang sasabihin kung ano anong choir kami.

no need to apologize for anything. the reason we have discussions groups like this is to discuss and hopefully answer questions without undermining the opinions of others. k lang yan! pampabuhay ng konti :)

[Boccelli]

wow.. what a fascinating batuhan of lines. hehehehe :) (pa-conio ang efek ko dun ah)

so mukhang na settle ang interesting talakayan... sa mga may alam, if i'm not mistaken, third na to in the last 4 years (minus yung prior to 2002) of the Samu't Saring Himig series. Parang the second one ata hindi naman lahat school/university choirs eh. or mali ba ako?

may point yung sa budget, sayang nga at i've heard only great things about Himig Singers of Davao. I soooo want to hear them. Nakakawindang daw. Sana magconcert sila sa Manila.

If ever, yung mga professional choirs (na hindi parish at hindi university affiliated) pwede ding mag festival (i.e. yung mga San Miguel or dating PCC etc.) Nga pala, yung question ko pala is anong classification ng ACS (Ateneo Chamber Singers)? Ano ba talaga ang ibig sabihin ng University Choir?

[aksprn1]

oo nga ano... hindi ba ang official university choir ng ateneo is AGC dahil ang ACS is for alumni talaga? so who will be performing? any info on this?

[Boccelli]

ang alam ko rin naman kasi if ever ang ACS ang magpeperform, sila yung official choir ng Gesu or parang ganun. Sorry sa mga kakilala kong ACS (i need to talk to you more to be more familiar with the group kasi all i know is magaling kayo but other info bona ako.. chez) baka mali lang ang info ko. :)

[angelita25]

Speaking of the canticle choir, our eldest brother who's now in the us navy was one of the founding original member of this group. Most of them came from the kabataang barangay and the st. mary's academy glee club of pasay city during that time. I'll be delighted to tell my brother about this news.

[chor_dirigent]

Speaking of the canticle choir, our eldest brother who's now in the us navy was one of the founding original member of this group. Most of them came from the kabataang barangay and the st. mary's academy glee club of pasay city during that time. I'll be delighted to tell my brother about this news.

I heard of this group although I'm not so familiar with them. Anyways, please say hi to nuratbelma for me. Nakakamiss ang kanyang mga lines.

[mario_lanza]

I heard of this group although I'm not so familiar with them. Anyways, please say hi to nuratbelma for me. Nakakamiss ang kanyang mga lines.

In behalf of nuratbelma, hi din chor_dirigent.

[ibongadarna1]

Nga pala, yung question ko pala is anong classification ng ACS (Ateneo Chamber Singers)? Ano ba talaga ang ibig sabihin ng University Choir?


Hoy Boccelli, simple lang yang tanong mong yan anoh. Ang ibig sabihin ng university choir eh mga choir na taga university tulad halimbawa ng UPCC, UPSA, DLSU Chorale, PNU Chorale, UE Chorale, ACG, PNU Chorale at ang alma mater nating "FAHFAH Chorale". O ayan, malinaw na ha.

Ang ACS ang dating ACG at ngayon eh mga alumni na. ACG ang exixting at ang mga present members nito ngayon.

[SATB]

For those interested, the Canticle Choir will be holding auditions for male and female members.

For more information, please email us at canticle_choir@yahoo.com

[choir_director]

ACG ang exixting at ang mga present members nito ngayon.

Good day ibongadarna. No offense ha, it's ACGC which means Ateneo College Glee Club. Siguro na missed out mo lang yong isa pang C. You're right, the existing is the ACGC. They are the official and not the ACS. Have a nice weekend.

[GadoGado]

Sa mga nagtatanong: as far as I know, the Ateneo Chamber Singers will not be participating in Samu't Saring Tinig since, tama ang mga tao, ACS is not a university choir but also a church/alumni choir. The Ateneo College Glee Club (ACGC) would be participating though as they are still the official university choir of the Ateneo de Manila University.

For my opinion about parish choirs not being invited to participate in the said event: I do agree that there are so many good parishes out there and all of them do indeed deserve to have an event like this. However, Samu't Saring Tinig as far as I am aware is indeed specially intended for University Choirs. I still have the previous Samu't Saring Tinig programme at ang subtitile nga niya ay "a concert of the best university choirs". Kaya hindi nga talaga kasali dito ang church/parish choirs for obvious reasons. I just do hope that the CCP would also organize an event highlighting the talents of our beloved parish choirs din naman - or choirs that fall in a category other than university choirs.

More power to all!!!

[GadoGado]

Another noteworthy event would be the 30th International Bamboo Organ Festival from February 3 to 11, 2005. For the 3rd consecutive year, the Ateneo Chamber Singers and the Philippine Chamber Choir are the featured choirs, together with the Las Piñas Boys Choir and the Festival Choir.

The following international artists will perform on the said event: Guy Bovet, organ, from Switzerland; Luc Ponet, organ; Manu Mellaerts, trumpet, from Belgium (which is also celebrating the 175th year of its independence); conductor Josef Doeller and his choir Domkantorei Graz from Austria; and from the US, former festival artistic director and conductor Miles Morgan.

The following Filipino artists would also be performing: Rachelle Gerodias and Katrina Saporsantos; mezzo Agnes Barredo; tenor Ronan Ferrer, countertenor Mark Anthony Carpio; bass and choral conductor Jonathan Velasco; Mary Anne Espina, assisting pianist; the Ateneo Chamber Singers, Philippine Chamber Choir, Las Piñas Boys Choir, Diego Cera Trio, BSJ Quintet and the Festival Choir. Orchestral accompaniments will be rendered by the Festival Orchestra and the Philippine Philharmonic Orchestra.

The traditional outdoor Concert Under the Trees will feature the country's top pop vocal ensembles The CompanY, the Opera, and TUX--and their special guests Aiza Seguerra and Ella May Saison, in Kantapella at Las Piñas; while Festival Glimpses will be reborn as Fiesta Musika, with an all-Filipino program for organ, choral and chamber compositions, and songs from Filipino sarswelas.

For more details visit http://www.clickthecity.com/cityscope/bamboo_organ_festival.asp

[loneranger]

I just do hope that the CCP would also organize an event highlighting the talents of our beloved parish choirs din naman - or choirs that fall in a category other than university choirs.

I agree with you GadoGado. Sana magkaron ng project ang ccp at puro mga parish choirs naman ang mga participants.

[JohnnyBBad]

Apparently, the Samu't Saring tinig thing this year was meant to showcase university-based choirs that have won competitions abroad - so there.

I remember watching Canticle in a TV Christmas caroling contest thing sometime late 80's or early 90's - Lunch Date pa yata. They sang Christmas Carol, and I remember I was bowled over sa tunog. I even taped it on betamax(!), and wore down the tape sa kakapanood.

Yikes, napaghahalataan yata ang age ko BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Boccelli]

hallur halluran JohnnyBBadd!! :) i'll see you in a week or so. hehehehe :) parating na ang friend natin in a few days eh.

[speedofreak]

For those interested, the Canticle Choir will be holding auditions for male and female members.

For more information, please email us at canticle_choir@yahoo.com

uy! bakit bigla ata nagkaron ng auditions ang canticle?

CHANGE OF TOPIC...

ang ACS ba po PURELY for ADMU/ACGC alumni lang? Last I heard they branched out na, accepting a member from SMMC and ChoPa...

[GadoGado]

uy! bakit bigla ata nagkaron ng auditions ang canticle?

CHANGE OF TOPIC...

ang ACS ba po PURELY for ADMU/ACGC alumni lang? Last I heard they branched out na, accepting a member from SMMC and ChoPa...

ACS is not purely composed but is rather MOSTLY composed of Ateneo/ACGC alumni, hindi pa finalized ang percentage na set per season, but around 70% are supposed to be part of the ateneo community, this includes ateneo alumni (whether alumni of the Ateneo Grade School, High School, or College), Faculty, Staff, and Administrators. Yes there are some members of ACS that have never been part of the Ateneo, but majority of ACS members fall under the Atenean "category".

[Monteverdi]

Si Sir Boy Delarmente pa rin ba ang conductor ng revived Canticle Choir?

Heard a couple of CDs nila...yung performance sa Greece (na pinaghirapan pang ilipat from tape to CD haha), yung studio recording, yung homecoming concert nila...what can I say? for a very small group (around 12 members?)... ang LUPIT nila!!! Ang lupit!

Yung mga parish based choirs na magaling...most of them ang mga conductors/members nila ay galing din sa mga tanyag na university choirs... diba?

[theverdict1]

Si Sir Boy Delarmente pa rin ba ang conductor ng revived Canticle Choir?

Heard a couple of CDs nila...yung performance sa Greece (na pinaghirapan pang ilipat from tape to CD haha), yung studio recording, yung homecoming concert nila...what can I say? for a very small group (around 12 members?)... ang LUPIT nila!!! Ang lupit!

Yung mga parish based choirs na magaling...most of them ang mga conductors/members nila ay galing din sa mga tanyag na university choirs... diba?

You're right monteverdi, malupit nga ang group na yon noon. Pero I'm wondering kung kaya pa nitong revived group na ito ang magpatunog ng ganun kung iba na ang mga members? Kelan kaya ang initial concert ng mga ito at ng makaliskisan natin.

Anyways, could you be more specific and tell us kung sino yong parish based na sinasabi mong galing sa isang tanyag na university?

[ibongadarna1]

Happy Valentine's Day To All!

Buti pa kayo siguro at may mga kanya kanyang dates ngayon samantalang ang aking fahfah ay hayon at sumama sa isa kong kaibigang bakla din. Pag napatunayan kong totoo ang lahat ay ibubulgar ko sila dito sa Pex at ng magkabukuhan na. Pareho din namang bakla ang mag yon.

[choirmaster]

Just wanted you to know that choirmuthrels is still reading your interesting postings. Can anyone give me a list of very good parish choirs, for future AILM festivals? By the way, ang susunod na seminar on choral conducting ay April 4-9, 2005. Alam niyo naman kung ano ang nangyayari gabi-gabi during that time diva? So ireserba na!

[realized]

hpefully, someone will post details about the coming seminar on choral conducting sa AILM...im very much interested to join the seminar..thank you..

[nuratbelma]

Hello pipol!!! Anong nangyari sa CCP's samu't sari festival of the best university choirs? Tahimik ata this time. Anong nangyari sa mga fave groups ninyo? Update naman dyan please.

[popwinter]

Hello pipol!!! Anong nangyari sa CCP's samu't sari festival of the best university choirs? Tahimik ata this time. Anong nangyari sa mga fave groups ninyo? Update naman dyan please.

as usual, ust singers na naman ang sikat nung first night. kabog silang lahat.

[aksprn1]

Talaga namang naglaan ako para sa dalawang gabi!

All choirs were worth watching, may kanya-kanyang style siyempre. But of course, for me, there are a few groups that stood out.

And my personal faves in no particular order are...

UST ... of course, the ever powerful! I wouldn't say it's all volume like others would. Kahit naman malakas yan, kung wala talagang dating eh wala parin. For me, the word is "power." It's part of their style which makes them unique.

San Beda .... very entertaining. Medyo unexpected para sakin ang palabas nila kasi first time ko silang mapanood! It was a good break.

DLSU Choir ... very fine tuning. Ganda pala ng tunog ng group na ito. I did not expect that kasi honestly, hindi ko naman sila masyadong nababalitaan mag-tour or mag-concert ng kasing dalas ng other groups. Kahit konti lang ang members eh na-execute nila yung mga kanta nila ng maganda at malinis. Pero yung last song, parang naka-gulo yung pianist. Gusto yata niya sa timing niya sumunod yung choir at hindi sa conductor.

Madz... super vast improvement since the Samu't-Saring Tinig last 2002 na may ilang boses na nagmistulang mga paru-parung lumilipad. Maganda ang combination ng members nila ngayon. I started appreciating their sound again last December 2003 sa Manila Cathedral and continuous ang improvement.

Hmm... wala akong maisip maidagdag for now! Congrats to all the choirs! Sana may lumabas na CD nung mga best songs sa festival.

[ibongadarna1]

Hello mga sistah.... well, sayang at di ko napanood ang unang gabi ng samut "bading bading ek ek. Pero I heard na the best ang performance ng uste nung gabing iyon. Wala pa din talagang kupas ang dati kong mentor na si fidel. Yong ikalawang gabi ang napanood ko at para sa akin eh tatlong choir lang ang magaling dun..........and Madz, DLSU Chorale at ang aking mga "kabarong" ahahayyyyyyyy....ang San Beda...... pwede bang mag join sa king mga ka-federation?

[aksprn1]

ibongadarna1... kilala kita :) Kwentuhan tayo minsan!

[chor_dirigent]

Congrats to all the Samut Saring II participants. I was a not hundred percent satisfied with some university choirs who performed but at least it was worth seeing and worth the money I paid for the tickets.

Some choirs had a magnificent performance and there are some who needs re-touching. USTE, PNU and UPSA were the best choirs during the first night, while DLSU, SAN BEDA, UE Chorale and MADZ were outstanding during the second night.

Kudos to Fidel Calalang, Luzvi Modelo and Ed Manguiat during the first night.
Kudos to Boy Delarmente, Robert Delgado, Ana Abeleda and Mark Carpio during the second night.

I wish CCP can produce shows like this as often as they can para magkaron ng drive ang mga choral groups para mag-improve pa.

Sana next time naman ang mga Parish Choirs. O ayan NURATBELMA, indorsed na ang ina-asam mo. Pwera react ha. Sa narinig ko sa ibang university choirs eh mukhang pwede na nga ang mga parish choirs na makipagsabayan.

Medyo dissapointed din ako sa UPCC, pero siguro medyo bago pa ang mga members nila kaya ganun. Sana mag concentrate din si Jay vocal qualities rather than the movememnts. No offense, kaya ito ni Jay.

[Boccelli]

ano yung repertoire nung mga different choirs at ano yung mga outstanding interpretations?

[ibongadarna1]

ano yung repertoire nung mga different choirs at ano yung mga outstanding interpretations?

Hay nakuh boccelli, walang makakapag kwento sayo at napakahabang salaysayin. Pero isa lang ang masasabi ko sayo, "napa iyak ako sa pambansang awit", dahil nanalaytay sa akin ang pagiging pilipino........"Isang Baklang Pilipino"!

[loneranger]

Sayang at di ko din napanood. Anyways, mukha yatang walang masyadong feedback sa nakaraang samut na yan. Paki update naman.

[choirmaster]

Dear friends,

We would like to take this opportunity to invite you the 5th Annual Workshop for Choral Conductors, to be held at the Asian Institute for Liturgy and Music on April 4 – 9, 2005. The focus for this year is Vocal Training for Choirs.

In this land of excellent choirs, the AILM workshops on choral conducting have set a high standard that is the envy of many countries in this part of the world. The school is well known for its faculty in choral conducting, and its roster of students and alumni include some of the best choral conductors in Asia today.

For this year’s workshop, we have invited some the country’s top vocal trainers and choral conductors to share with us their knowledge on how they handle the training of voices to produce the desired results. This includes resource persons who are proficient in the training of young voices, youth voices, and mature voices as well. We hope to come up with a sort of “vocalization handbook” that will be beneficial to all teachers of choirs, as well as private teachers in voice.

We pride ourselves to be the only workshop in the country with a series of nightly concerts featuring the top Philippine choirs, and this year is no exception. And, in what we hope will be another tradition, we will include all the participants in the final night, to showcase our efforts during the six-day workshop.

We are all aware of the financial difficulties everyone is experiencing at the moment. We have therefore decided to introduce several options for the workshops. The seminar fee is P3,000, which will include access to all seminars, workshops, clinics, concerts and basic hand-outs. If you want to have lunch with us, please add an additional P400. For those needing lodging and meals, we will charge an additional fee of P1,500 per person for the entire stay (including lunch, so no need to pay the additional P400).

As a final note, I have been chosen Chairman of this year’s NAMCYA Competitions, College Choir category. The AILM workshop will include several lectures on Interpretation and Style, which will be helpful for all of you planning to join the NAMCYA in November.

For further information, please contact: (02)722-5554 (Luz), or (02)7228577 (Debbie), or email at choirmaster@gmail.com.

We hope to see you soon!


Cordially,



JONATHAN VELASCO
Workshop Director

[DaRk._.SoUL]

ANg mahal... anyway... I just want to ask if anyone of you would be able to produce the choral arrangement of DIRAIT-ON of LAURIDSEN...

[chor_dirigent]

Dear friends,

We would like to take this opportunity to invite you the 5th Annual Workshop for Choral Conductors, to be held at the Asian Institute for Liturgy and Music on April 4 – 9, 2005. The focus for this year is Vocal Training for Choirs.

In this land of excellent choirs, the AILM workshops on choral conducting have set a high standard that is the envy of many countries in this part of the world. The school is well known for its faculty in choral conducting, and its roster of students and alumni include some of the best choral conductors in Asia today.

For this year’s workshop, we have invited some the country’s top vocal trainers and choral conductors to share with us their knowledge on how they handle the training of voices to produce the desired results. This includes resource persons who are proficient in the training of young voices, youth voices, and mature voices as well. We hope to come up with a sort of “vocalization handbook” that will be beneficial to all teachers of choirs, as well as private teachers in voice.

We pride ourselves to be the only workshop in the country with a series of nightly concerts featuring the top Philippine choirs, and this year is no exception. And, in what we hope will be another tradition, we will include all the participants in the final night, to showcase our efforts during the six-day workshop.

We are all aware of the financial difficulties everyone is experiencing at the moment. We have therefore decided to introduce several options for the workshops. The seminar fee is P3,000, which will include access to all seminars, workshops, clinics, concerts and basic hand-outs. If you want to have lunch with us, please add an additional P400. For those needing lodging and meals, we will charge an additional fee of P1,500 per person for the entire stay (including lunch, so no need to pay the additional P400).

As a final note, I have been chosen Chairman of this year’s NAMCYA Competitions, College Choir category. The AILM workshop will include several lectures on Interpretation and Style, which will be helpful for all of you planning to join the NAMCYA in November.

For further information, please contact: (02)722-5554 (Luz), or (02)7228577 (Debbie), or email at choirmaster@gmail.com.

We hope to see you soon!


Cordially,



JONATHAN VELASCOna
Workshop Director


Who are the lecturers and conductors in this workshop? Will there be nightly concerts? Who are the invited choirs na magpe perform?

[choirmaster]

Asian Institute for Liturgy and Music
5th Annual Workshop for Choral Conductors
April 4 – 9, 2005

EVENING CONCERTS

The Asian Institute for Liturgy and Music is proud to present the following choirs in a series of nightly concerts from April 4 to 8, 2005, in connection with the 5th Annual Workshop for Choral Conductors. The concerts are open to the public. Concerts start promptly at 7:30 p.m.

Monday, April 4
TIP Choral Society
Leonyl Torres, conductor

St. John Bosco Chorale
Lester Delgado, conductor

Tuesday, April 5
CJ Learning Center Children’s Choir
Emmanuel Miranda, conductor

Philippine Children’s Choir of Mandaluyong
Sebastian Trinidad, conductor

Wednesday, April 6
Ateneo College Glee Club
Malou Venida-Hermo, conductor

San Beda Chorale
Robert Delgado, conductor

Thursday, April 7
College of the Immaculate Conception Chorale
Alfred Samonte, conductor

Coro Cantabile
Sharon Abesamis, conductor

Friday, April 8
Workshop participants final concert
Various conductors

Ateneo Chamber Singers
Jonathan Velasco, conductor

[chor_dirigent]

Looks like this thread is about to die. Terminal, kung baga. Where are the loyal pexers? What happened? Alam ba ninyong patay na si Pope John Paul II? Ni ang Asian Music in Liturgy Workshop ay wala man lang ugong. Successful kaya ito? Nagtatanong lang po.

[choirmaster]

Chor dirigent: Asian Music in Liturgy Workshop? Feel ko talaga ang permutations ng aming mumunting eskwelahan. hahaha! Andyan ang Asian Institute for Liturgical Music, Asian Institute to Liturgy and Music, etc... Salamat naman at meron kang nadagdag.

Yup, successful naman ang workshop this year. Maraming nagpunta na taga ibang probinsiya. Marami din silang natutunan. As for the choral festival attached to the workshops, poor ang audience attendance. Wala kasing publicity e. Pero ang gagaling ng mga choirs. I don't know... people only went kung Madz ang palabas, I guess... nagkataon lang na meron silang performance sa Friday na araw-araw naman ang rehearsals. Siguro next year, kung kukunin ko sila, hindi ko na lang sasabihin kung anong araw sila kakanta. hahahaha!!! As if! Even nung time na we had Madz and SMMC during the workshop, mas marami pa ring hakot ang madz, e wala naman akong publicity na ginawa. Pero ngayon, binigyan ko ng chance ang mga bagong choirs na magperform, kaso wala namang nanonood. Well, it's their loss. I think magagaling sila, and there were flashes of brilliance in terms of interpretation in some pieces. I don't regret for one moment na sila ang inimbita ko this year. Siguro next year mixed naman... may kumakanta, may tumutula, may tumatawid ng alambre...

Kung may time kayo, nood kayo bukas, ACS in some of the choral works from the PAGSAMBA concert.

[realized]

hindi man ako nakarating sa AILM workshops and concerts, naka-attend naman ako ng choral festival ng MCS sa Philam life entitled Colors of Worship II...

Una, Congrats muna sa members ng MCS for the success of their festival. However, mer0n pa ring comments and all na galing sa isang hamak na avid Choral enthusiast.

The stage: sana simple lang..may smoke machine pa kasi at disco lights na nakakadistract ng performance and audience..

The program was okay..the choirs were promising..I liked the Children's choir..The Metroplotian Children's Choir ..they were not the best choir for the night in terms of sound/blending/power etc. but they indeed made a big difference sa lahat ng choirs who performed because of their unique style and cute voices..

University of Makati Chorale: meron palang ganito...at in fairness, the bass section of this choir was very promising...very felt ang voices ng mga basses dito..blending wise, hindi msydo keri..choice of repertoire wasn't that good also and the femalse section was too weak...pero very promising sila and they might be one of the good university choirs kung pagtiyatiyagaan at tututukan...=) diction check din sana...

the Chruch choir na nakalimutan ko ang pangaln was conducted by SMMC bass Ritchie Aqueza? tama ba? puro hatak naman ito..may basses and altos akong nakita na kumakanta sa SMMC...so wala akong comment dito..pero honestly, i didn't like the sound..

UA&P Chorale improved kahit paano...O Magnum Mysreium by Busto lacked hagod ..i used to listen to the madz recording kase eh...they faired ok...

Novo Concertante's sound became different.i liked their sopranos kaso medyo mahina..the tenors sounded foreign tenors maybe because of the German tenor's voice na bumabalot sa section...altos were too---silent..

Imusicapella was OK! for me, they were the choir for the night..with only 18 members, mas makapal pa ang sound nila sa isang choir na may 26 members...blended at matatapang ang singers...very promising..hoping to hear more of Imusicapella...

UE Chorale: they were still good but i was looking for their sound before..medyo na-sad ako kasi medyo nag-iba *** sound nila..it wasn't as broad as before..wasn't as "tickling" as before...nakulangan na ako sa "L" unlike before. The fortes were weak na and the sopranos weren't flying anymore..hit nalang ng hit..but, i like the Pater Noster Soprano Solo. i noticed some changes also sa techniques ng singers..diction was also a major problem.."daniel" and "fiery" of Hogan's spiritual...BUT in fairness, i liked the program , and dikit pa din! and ms. Anna was pregnant pala! in fairness, buntis pa pala!

MCS was ok naman...hindi ko lang gusto *** first song...medyo weak din ang female section.

lastly, next year, chugihin ang host...ang intro ba naman before mag grand choir ay ito--"Please welcome, the chorale choirs!" HELLO?!?!?!?!

Congrats again! Looking forward sa Madz et. al. daw this April every first saturdays! sana mabuhay ang thread na ito sa month na iy0n!

[realized]

correction--sa May pala ang Madz et. al. every saturdays daw sa Philam? please correct me if im wrong

[tuningfork]

Watch the first solo concert of the Madz for this season entitled ACCLAMATION on April 23 and 24, 8 pm at the CCP Main Theater. For tickets please contact 09228023778. See you!

[sopranina]

the Chruch choir na nakalimutan ko ang pangaln was conducted by SMMC bass Ritchie Aqueza? tama ba? ...

hi, realized! the choir is called the Disciples Choir and their conductor is ronnie abarquez (mej malayo yung ritchie aqueza, hehe).

hi, choirmuthrels! i heard about nen... :(

[realized]

sorry...hindi ko naalala ang name..hahahahaha!siguro *** ritchie aqueza na overhere ko lang somewhere..hehehe..anyway, salamat sopranina! =) Ronnie Abarquez

[ibongadarna1]

The stage: sana simple lang..may smoke machine pa kasi at disco lights na nakakadistract ng performance and audience..

The Metroplotian Children's Choir ..they were not the best choir for the night in terms of sound/blending/power etc.

University of Makati Chorale: meron palang ganito...at in fairness, the bass section of this choir was very promising...very felt ang voices ng mga basses dito..blending wise, hindi msydo keri..choice of repertoire wasn't that good also and the femalse section was too weak...pero very promising sila and they might be one of the good university choirs kung pagtiyatiyagaan at tututukan...=) diction check din sana...

SMMC...so wala akong comment dito..pero honestly, i didn't like the sound..

UA&P Chorale improved kahit paano...O Magnum Mysreium by Busto lacked hagod ..

Novo Concertante's...altos were too---silent..

UE Chorale: it wasn't as broad as before..wasn't as "tickling" as before...nakulangan na ako sa "L" unlike before. The fortes were weak na and the sopranos weren't flying anymore..hit nalang ng hit..but, diction was also a major problem.."daniel" and "fiery" of Hogan's spiritual...

MCS was ok naman...hindi ko lang gusto *** first song...medyo weak din ang female section.

lastly, next year, chugihin ang host...ang intro ba naman before mag grand choir ay ito--"Please welcome, the chorale choirs!" HELLO?!?!?!?!

Congrats again!

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HOY, HOY, HOY! Sobrang pamimintas ito ha. Anong choir ka at ginaganyan mo ang mga choirs na yan? Tigilan mo na yang mga intriga mo. May mga pambobola ka pa tapos eh lalait-laitin mo naman. MAGTIGIL KA!!!!!! :no:

[loneranger]

HOY, HOY, HOY! Sobrang pamimintas ito ha. Anong choir ka at ginaganyan mo ang mga choirs na yan? Tigilan mo na yang mga intriga mo. May mga pambobola ka pa tapos eh lalait-laitin mo naman. MAGTIGIL KA!!!!!! :no:[/QUOTE]

Relax ka lang Ibongadarna, mukha namang constructive although lamang ang panglalaet, baka naman gustong makatulong ni realize. Pero I think you're right. It was more of a pamimintas than constructive criticism. :down:

[freebie_ph]

Good Day!
The Coro Animo (DLSU Chorale Alumni) is inviting you to watch our upcoming concert entitled "ENCORE!" on April 30, 2005 8pm to be held at the National Shrine of the Divine Child, La Salle Greenhills. This is a fundraising concert for the benefit of the KUYA Center for Streetchildren. tickets priced at P120.

For more info contact Jet @ 0915-7717368
or Francis @ 0927-6423711

[loneranger]

Good Day!
The Coro Animo (DLSU Chorale Alumni) is inviting you to watch our upcoming concert entitled "ENCORE!" on April 30, 2005 8pm to be held at the National Shrine of the Divine Child, La Salle Greenhills. This is a fundraising concert for the benefit of the KUYA Center for Streetchildren. tickets priced at P120.

For more info contact Jet @ 0915-7717368
or Francis @ 0927-6423711

Coro Animo? Meron Pala nito. Kundirana ba ito? Yong dating group ni Montet Acoymo?

[freebie_ph]

Coro Animo? Meron Pala nito. Kundirana ba ito? Yong dating group ni Montet Acoymo?


Coro Animo is composed of alumni members of DLSU Chorale (main) formerly conducted by Prof Boy Delarmente. Their present conductor is Ms. Lia Ambrosio (presently a member of the madrigal singers).

[choirmaster]

I long for the day when I will see a posting here, na hindi tumutukoy sa SOUND. What about interpretation? Line? period performance? The discussions on sound is sooooooo last century. Maganda nga tunog ng choir mo, yung Brahms mo naman tunog Federizon, ala din.

[choir_director]

I long for the day when I will see a posting here, na hindi tumutukoy sa SOUND. What about interpretation? Line? period performance? The discussions on sound is sooooooo last century. Maganda nga tunog ng choir mo, yung Brahms mo naman tunog Federizon, ala din.

You will definitely remain longing. It is a matter of opinion. I'm sure si Ruben ito, tsktsktsktsktsk, wawa naman ang kaibigan kong si Ruben. Anyways, sino ba yong choir na nagtunog federizon?

[choirmaster]

choir director: Si Ruben ang alin? Yung Federizon? Kaibigan mo sya? So kaibigan din kita. hehehe...

As for the choir na nagtunog Federizon, wala. It was just an example. Pwede ring: maganda nga tunog ng choir mo, pero ang Bruckner mo naman tunog Brahms, ala din.

And you're right, it's a matter of opinion. It's also a matter of ignorance. Kaya tayo madalas matalo sa Polyphonic category sa Europe, totally out of style tayo kumanta ng mga contest pieces nila. I should know. hehehe...

Siguro more workshops? Hirap naman kasi, bigay ka nga ng workshops, wala namang pumupunta, feeling kasi nila, magaling na sila at wala na silang matututunan pa. I should know. hehehehe...

[whirlingwhirlin]

hindi man ako nakarating sa AILM workshops and concerts, naka-attend naman ako ng choral festival ng MCS sa Philam life entitled Colors of Worship II...

Una, Congrats muna sa members ng MCS for the success of their festival. However, mer0n pa ring comments and all na galing sa isang hamak na avid Choral enthusiast.

The stage: sana simple lang..may smoke machine pa kasi at disco lights na nakakadistract ng performance and audience..

The program was okay..the choirs were promising..I liked the Children's choir..The Metroplotian Children's Choir ..they were not the best choir for the night in terms of sound/blending/power etc. but they indeed made a big difference sa lahat ng choirs who performed because of their unique style and cute voices..

University of Makati Chorale: meron palang ganito...at in fairness, the bass section of this choir was very promising...very felt ang voices ng mga basses dito..blending wise, hindi msydo keri..choice of repertoire wasn't that good also and the femalse section was too weak...pero very promising sila and they might be one of the good university choirs kung pagtiyatiyagaan at tututukan...=) diction check din sana...

the Chruch choir na nakalimutan ko ang pangaln was conducted by SMMC bass Ritchie Aqueza? tama ba? puro hatak naman ito..may basses and altos akong nakita na kumakanta sa SMMC...so wala akong comment dito..pero honestly, i didn't like the sound..

UA&P Chorale improved kahit paano...O Magnum Mysreium by Busto lacked hagod ..i used to listen to the madz recording kase eh...they faired ok...

Novo Concertante's sound became different.i liked their sopranos kaso medyo mahina..the tenors sounded foreign tenors maybe because of the German tenor's voice na bumabalot sa section...altos were too---silent..

Imusicapella was OK! for me, they were the choir for the night..with only 18 members, mas makapal pa ang sound nila sa isang choir na may 26 members...blended at matatapang ang singers...very promising..hoping to hear more of Imusicapella...

UE Chorale: they were still good but i was looking for their sound before..medyo na-sad ako kasi medyo nag-iba *** sound nila..it wasn't as broad as before..wasn't as "tickling" as before...nakulangan na ako sa "L" unlike before. The fortes were weak na and the sopranos weren't flying anymore..hit nalang ng hit..but, i like the Pater Noster Soprano Solo. i noticed some changes also sa techniques ng singers..diction was also a major problem.."daniel" and "fiery" of Hogan's spiritual...BUT in fairness, i liked the program , and dikit pa din! and ms. Anna was pregnant pala! in fairness, buntis pa pala!

MCS was ok naman...hindi ko lang gusto *** first song...medyo weak din ang female section.

lastly, next year, chugihin ang host...ang intro ba naman before mag grand choir ay ito--"Please welcome, the chorale choirs!" HELLO?!?!?!?!

Congrats again! Looking forward sa Madz et. al. daw this April every first saturdays! sana mabuhay ang thread na ito sa month na iy0n!


hi, ive watched this comcert too... basically itwas so organized. i think so. the choirs were good, but i beg to disagree with you saying that imusicapella was good.. uhm that night i think the best choir was the MCS. compared to the other choirs that performed, their sound was different,. sila lang *** sobrang 'dikit' *** tunog. *** ibang choirs kase, malakas nga pero may nag sstick out na boses.. like for example, sa U.E, pag pinakinggan mo sila, unang maririnig mo kagad *** soprano. pero in fairness, maganda tunog ng sops nila. i just don't like the sound of their tenors. I also like their choice of repertoire. very entertaining ****. Sa Novo Concertante naman, ang panget ng mga entrances nila. maganda sana *** Ave Maria nila kaso hindi maganda pasok ng sops nila dun. maganda *** Rocka my soul na song.. pero sumablay naman sops nila sa last part.. Imuscapella naman ****** malakas.. parang hindi na define *** pag change nila ng forte to piano and piano to forte.. isa pang panget sa kanila, ****** *** movements nila sa stage. para silang sumasayaw.(understandable naman kase taga UST conductor nila). pero sana less movements kase nakaka distract tlaga.
UAP naman, tunog makapal lang. kulang nga sila sa hagod ng mga songs. pero ok sila in fairness. MCS nakakabitin. 2 lang kase kinanta nila. ramdam mo uing feeling ng songs na kinakanta nila lalo na *** Salmo 13. they sound like the Pilgrim Mission Choir ng korea. though, mahina *** sops nila in some parts, they pulled it off somehow..

again, congrats sa lahat ng choirs.. =p

[sleeplacker]

Hi! I'm from the UA&P Chorale. :) Thanks for your constructive comments on our performances. Please pray for us, as we are training and raising funds for our first international competition in July. :eyecrazy:

Anyway, I'd just like to know if anyone else here is participating in the MADZ et al Festival featuring "The Triumphs of Oriana" this May (all 4 Saturdays at Philamlife, 7:30 p.m.). We will be singing on May 7, together with Coro Cantabile, Lifeline Chorale, and Yamaha Children's Choir. Which choirs will singing for the other 3 nights? Will any of you be watching? Just curious :)

[freebie_ph]

Hi! I'm from the UA&P Chorale. :) Thanks for your constructive comments on our performances. Please pray for us, as we are training and raising funds for our first international competition in July. :eyecrazy:

Anyway, I'd just like to know if anyone else here is participating in the MADZ et al Festival featuring "The Triumphs of Oriana" this May (all 4 Saturdays at Philamlife, 7:30 p.m.). We will be singing on May 7, together with Coro Cantabile, Lifeline Chorale, and Yamaha Children's Choir. Which choirs will singing for the other 3 nights? Will any of you be watching? Just curious :)

Coro Animo will be performing on May 14. :)

[chOirbOy`]

choir director: Si Ruben ang alin? Yung Federizon? Kaibigan mo sya? So kaibigan din kita. hehehe...

As for the choir na nagtunog Federizon, wala. It was just an example. Pwede ring: maganda nga tunog ng choir mo, pero ang Bruckner mo naman tunog Brahms, ala din.

And you're right, it's a matter of opinion. It's also a matter of ignorance. Kaya tayo madalas matalo sa Polyphonic category sa Europe, totally out of style tayo kumanta ng mga contest pieces nila. I should know. hehehe...

Siguro more workshops? Hirap naman kasi, bigay ka nga ng workshops, wala namang pumupunta, feeling kasi nila, magaling na sila at wala na silang matututunan pa. I should know. hehehehe...


Naku Choirmuthrels, hindi sa kaibigan kita (or Idol, for that matter) pero I agree with you! I remember one time may isang choir dito sa amin sa Imus na ng perform ng Bruckner Ave Maria with 11 singers!!!

Anyway, i recently listened to the new Bamboo Organ Festival CD with your performances of Charpentier and Mozart and i do admire the ' period' way you've done it.... though i felt that the Charpentier Ouverture could have used some more 'dotting' to bring out the French Style....

[chOirbOy`]

choir director: Si Ruben ang alin? Yung Federizon? Kaibigan mo sya? So kaibigan din kita. hehehe...

As for the choir na nagtunog Federizon, wala. It was just an example. Pwede ring: maganda nga tunog ng choir mo, pero ang Bruckner mo naman tunog Brahms, ala din.

And you're right, it's a matter of opinion. It's also a matter of ignorance. Kaya tayo madalas matalo sa Polyphonic category sa Europe, totally out of style tayo kumanta ng mga contest pieces nila. I should know. hehehe...

Siguro more workshops? Hirap naman kasi, bigay ka nga ng workshops, wala namang pumupunta, feeling kasi nila, magaling na sila at wala na silang matututunan pa. I should know. hehehehe...


AAATTTT!!!

i remember when we were rehearsing Handel's Zadok the Priest last 2001.... sabi mo ng, back in the 18th C. when they wanted a 'loud' sound, they add more people.... di kaya ang current trend ng pagpapatunog ng choirs sa atin (esp *** sa mga provinces) eh modeled after the MADZ way? i mean.... the MADZ will always be the madz.... ika nga NOT ALL CAN BE AN OLYMPIC WEIGHT-LIFTER... I mean, conductors all around should be TAUGHT how to choose repertoire na KAYA at BAGAY sa choir nila....

[chOirbOy`]

...kasi sila ang kilala sa provinces (thanks to their outreach performances)

it just so happened that when local conductors hear them, they model their sound, no, they model their WHOLE choral program sa MADZ way... i mean think about this- young singers forced to SOUND like the madz? (o sound na naman) Ang nagiging ideal kasi nila kung ano *** narinig nila - even to the point of rehearsing using MADZ recordings ( "o gayahin mo 'to ha" technique )

but dont get me wrong- MADZ is not the problem; we should laud them for all their efforts to bring choral music where it has never been before....

i think it all owes to the fact that Pinoys are so 'fashionista'... kung ano *** uso, gawing natin... tulad sa TV, *** mga palabas knock-offs ng mga foreign shows.... ganun din ang nangyayari sa choral scene.... uso ang whitacre so kantahin natin; uso si Lauridsen so gawin natin...

which leads me back to the issue... their are things, other than sound, involved with choral music....

[mas_sweet]

May inquiry po ako. Pareho ba ang San Beda College Chorale at San Beda Male Singers? I read an article about their concert and it was a very good one. Nalito ako tuloy kung same ba yung dalawa. Ang makakasagot ay may kiss. Hehehe! I'm just happy na nabubuhay ang male choral community kasi sa Europe medyo numerous if not equal ang number ng mixed choirs at equal voices.
Dahil dito sa Pinas, ang daming mahuhusay na mga mixed choirs!

[choirmaster]

Hi Choirboy, long time no see. Ako nga, ayoko pang pakinggan kung ano yung ginawa ko sa bamboo organ festival. Baka makarinig lang ako ng hindi ko gusto, mapamura pa ako.

Did I tell you of the time I gave a choral clinic in Jakarta, and there was this choir which sang Christus factus est with 12 singers... and the amazing thing was, they sang it as if Bruckner actually wrote it for 12 singers instead of more! That was so amazing. They were so secure in phrasing and style, ang ganda ng lumabas. And this was Jakarta in 1999. Akala siguro ng Philippine choirs, hawak pa rin nila ang regional crown sa choral singing. Actually, hawak pa rin natin, pero malapit nang maagaw. Our neighbors are fast catching up. The last winner sa Marktoberdorf was the Parahyangan Catholic University Choir from Bandung, Indonesia.

As for the "gayahin natin ang Madz" phenomenon, hindi mo rin sila masisisi kasi... e sino pa ba gagayahin nila? At hindi nila alam na hindi pala sila dapat gagaya, kasi nga kulang sa impormasyon ang mga conductors ek. I've heard interpretations ng mga kanta na hinango sa interpretations ko, pero alam kong tinenga; in other words, kinopya yung sound and phrasing, pero hindi naintindihan kung bakit ganon ang ginawa ko. I usually explain these sa clinics. May mga nakakakuha, meron ding matigas ang ulo.

I'm usually very passionate about these things. Alam mo bang at the age of 18, may ideal "Madz" sound na ako sa ulo ko? When I handled some of the trainee rehearsals noong umalis sila for their '81 tour, kung minsan hinihinto ko yung rehearsal kasi ayaw magtugma ng naririnig ko dun sa ideal sound na nasa utak ko... e hindi ko pa alam kung paano pagtugmain... bale, nowadays, umangat na siguro ng konte ang nalalaman ko. Kaya naman, mega-share ako sa lahat ng gustong malaman ang mga "secrets" kuno. Kaya lang kung minsan, ino-offer ko na nga ang services ko for free, ayaw pa rin... siguro pag sumingil ako ng mahal, saka lang sila kakagat? hmmmm....

[choirmaster]

Mas sweet: yup, the two are one and the same. magaling sila, thanks to our lowla robert who is their conductor. Ipagdasal natin sila kasi lalaban sila sa Marktoberdorf in 3 weeks, sa all male category. Mej matitinik ang mga choirs na sasali. I will be part of the jury this year sa Marktoberdorf, pero that doesn't mean anything with regards Philippine choirs na sasali. Yun lang.

[choirmaster]

By the way, I hope some of you were able to watch the Madz concert over the weekend. Ganda ng rep, pino ng sound, wonderful interpretation, phrasing, fantastic sops, solos, etc... ripe for competition! aaaayyy... hahahaha!!! Sir Mark, lab you! Bakit parang malapit na kayong maging kamukha ni sir Agot? bwahahahahahaha!!!

[aksprn1]

Hmmm... with regard dun sa pag-gaya sa MADZ... I think a portion of that problem has to do with the audience as well. May bias na kasi ang karamihan sa audience na MADZ dapat ang katulad, kaya kapag mamimintas ng performance ng isang group... compared sa output ng MADZ. Siyempre, we have the basic requirements that are non-negotiable and we all have to meet (like harmony, intonation, dynamics, etc). But aside from that...hay naku, mag-isang malaking nationwide choir na lang kaya tayo kung ganito rin pala.

I admire Sir Fidel and Sir Boy for having their own ideas of what would work for their groups, and of course, being able to pull it off despite it not being part of the "standard." They have their specialties in the repertoire that fits the kind of group they have. Tried and tested (both locally and internationally) ang methods and output nila and the most that a biased audience can do is to not talk about a good performance.

I'm not saying that I don't like the way the MADZ performs. Their style works for them and it has served them well for many many times. I'm also not targetting anyone specific. I'm just saying that the audience has a lot to do with the uniformity in form and sound that is being observed in the choral scene right now (with the excemption of course of the established choirs). It has turned into some sort of generic formula that doesn't really work for all groups because each group has its own capabilities and limitations. Creativity is somewhat hindered because the young and emerging conductors are afraid na pipintasan lang sila... so they take the safe road and copy what "everyone" likes.

I wish that, aside from educating conductors and all that (thank you to those na matiaga mag-hold ng workshops), the audience should be educated as well. The kind of consumers we have will greatly affect the products that we produce. Choral singing is an art form. As its patrons, we should promote its growth by encouraging its endless possibilities. Acknowledging the creative trademarks of conductors means accepting diversity in form and sound. We are one of the most creative people in the world, let us not hinder its development by asking for uniformity.

[choirmaster]

aksprn1: bravo! Well said! Bakit ba hindi ko kayang magsalita ng ganyan... chiz.

Isa rin ako sa tuwang-tuwa sa ginagawa ng Lowla Fidel at Lolowh Boy. Sana'y magtagumpay sila sa lahat ng gagawin nila. Pati na rin ang Lo... ang Sir Mark. chiz.

O ayan ha, hindi na patay ang thread. Huwag lang bangayan please, it's soooooo '90s. chez.

[chOirbOy`]

educate conductors and audiences....

mother, its a good thing that choir of 12 pulled it off... definitely, INFORMED *** conductor...

singil ng mahal??? hahahaha!!! i can still recall the faces nung mga participants sa NAMCYA workshop sa Baguio when you said, "You better pay attention to what im saying, because you might never get chance to hear it again, BECAUSE i am expensive".... hahahaha!!!!!!!

o sa mga mahilig mang gaya, gayahin nyo nga madz ***** (esp si Liaa!!!)

[chOirbOy`]

Hmmm... with regard dun sa pag-gaya sa MADZ... I think a portion of that problem has to do with the audience as well. May bias na kasi ang karamihan sa audience na MADZ dapat ang katulad, kaya kapag mamimintas ng performance ng isang group... compared sa output ng MADZ. Siyempre, we have the basic requirements that are non-negotiable and we all have to meet (like harmony, intonation, dynamics, etc). But aside from that...hay naku, mag-isang malaking nationwide choir na lang kaya tayo kung ganito rin pala.

I admire Sir Fidel and Sir Boy for having their own ideas of what would work for their groups, and of course, being able to pull it off despite it not being part of the "standard." They have their specialties in the repertoire that fits the kind of group they have. Tried and tested (both locally and internationally) ang methods and output nila and the most that a biased audience can do is to not talk about a good performance.

I'm not saying that I don't like the way the MADZ performs. Their style works for them and it has served them well for many many times. I'm also not targetting anyone specific. I'm just saying that the audience has a lot to do with the uniformity in form and sound that is being observed in the choral scene right now (with the excemption of course of the established choirs). It has turned into some sort of generic formula that doesn't really work for all groups because each group has its own capabilities and limitations. Creativity is somewhat hindered because the young and emerging conductors are afraid na pipintasan lang sila... so they take the safe road and copy what "everyone" likes.

I wish that, aside from educating conductors and all that (thank you to those na matiaga mag-hold ng workshops), the audience should be educated as well. The kind of consumers we have will greatly affect the products that we produce. Choral singing is an art form. As its patrons, we should promote its growth by encouraging its endless possibilities. Acknowledging the creative trademarks of conductors means accepting diversity in form and sound. We are one of the most creative people in the world, let us not hinder its development by asking for uniformity.


just what i had in mind.... hmmm di *** **** ako eloquent... hahahaha!!! ask mo pa sa mga kaaway ko :crazytongue:

"It has turned into some sort of generic formula that doesn't really work for all groups because each group has its own capabilities and limitations. Creativity is somewhat hindered because the young and emerging conductors are afraid na pipintasan lang sila... so they take the safe road and copy what "everyone" likes." - this is so true... but its not only a 'safe road' but also an 'easy road' for those who want 'cheap thrills' - *** makarinig lang ng applause eh fulfilled na...

sabi nga ni josh groban when he sang Vincent, "as artists, we are sometimes misunderstood for what we do" - di ko recall *** eksaktong sinabi nya, pero something like this....

and he's right. True artists should not let themselves be carried-off by fashion or let their art be dumbed-down just to be liked....

un lang po for now kasi patapos na shift ko....hehehehe

[dina_B(irgin)]

Hmmm... with regard dun sa pag-gaya sa MADZ... I think a portion of that problem has to do with the audience as well. May bias na kasi ang karamihan sa audience na MADZ dapat ang katulad, kaya kapag mamimintas ng performance ng isang group... compared sa output ng MADZ. Siyempre, we have the basic requirements that are non-negotiable and we all have to meet (like harmony, intonation, dynamics, etc). But aside from that...hay naku, mag-isang malaking nationwide choir na lang kaya tayo kung ganito rin pala.

I admire Sir Fidel and Sir Boy for having their own ideas of what would work for their groups, and of course, being able to pull it off despite it not being part of the "standard." They have their specialties in the repertoire that fits the kind of group they have. Tried and tested (both locally and internationally) ang methods and output nila and the most that a biased audience can do is to not talk about a good performance.

I'm not saying that I don't like the way the MADZ performs. Their style works for them and it has served them well for many many times. I'm also not targetting anyone specific. I'm just saying that the audience has a lot to do with the uniformity in form and sound that is being observed in the choral scene right now (with the excemption of course of the established choirs). It has turned into some sort of generic formula that doesn't really work for all groups because each group has its own capabilities and limitations. Creativity is somewhat hindered because the young and emerging conductors are afraid na pipintasan lang sila... so they take the safe road and copy what "everyone" likes.

I wish that, aside from educating conductors and all that (thank you to those na matiaga mag-hold ng workshops), the audience should be educated as well. The kind of consumers we have will greatly affect the products that we produce. Choral singing is an art form. As its patrons, we should promote its growth by encouraging its endless possibilities. Acknowledging the creative trademarks of conductors means accepting diversity in form and sound. We are one of the most creative people in the world, let us not hinder its development by asking for uniformity.

Very well said! How I wish everyone CAN and WILL read this and try to really think and contemplate on the points you have clearly stated, indeed. There's so much truth in this and I commend you for having such keen obeservations on the matter.

On another note, how would anyone equate these circumstances to the MADz et al.-thing? I personally thinka that this festival has really something to do or has done something to affect THE choral scene in the country - but I must say that i hasn't always been very good. Take a look at most of the choral padagogues which all came from the madz - which, admit it - most patterns their sound to madz. Now, contemplate on this .....

[mas_sweet]

Now i know na isa lang pala yun. Well, they are good. At least tinatayo nila ang bandera ng mga kalalakihan (????). O cge na nga...ang male voices / equal voice dito sa Pinas. Katulad ng na--pangako ko choirmaster may kiss ka saken pag nagkita tayo sa....hehehehe! Thanks po

Naiyak naman ako sa point ni aksprn1. But come to think of it...He is right. E kaso most of the newly emerging conductors just dont have the guts to express what they want or do what they want for their choirs e. Kasi nga sa dami nang nagbabangayan na mga choirs at claiming ng korona sa pagiging "best", e yung mga baguhang conductors ay naliLito Camo na. Sana maging global ang approach ng mga pangunahing choirs dito para kung may 'gayahan' mang magaganap, at least towards global competitiveness tayo. Hindi parang laging may local competitions dito araw-araw.

ok ang thread na to alive na ulet! Mabuhay ang mga nagtuturo ng choir pati ang mga kumakanta sa choir!

[realized]

CONGRATS sa madz...tarush! ...i loved their concert na actually, mega balik ako nung sunday..i loved Abendlied, "Esto les Digo" , the Tippett Spirituals, ay ay kalisud, and the 3 OPM songs sa last part(very madz 80's ang dating)..madami ding nag-cry sa MLK nila...as tribute kay Pope John Paul II...

generally, ganda ng whole concert!!! the last time i heard them was last december, and masasabi ko, the sound, phrasing, lines, pati *** mga decay every phrase at mga cresc. decresec. nila ay mashoray!

kudos and more power madz!!

[aksprn1]

On another note, how would anyone equate these circumstances to the MADz et al.-thing? I personally thinka that this festival has really something to do or has done something to affect THE choral scene in the country - but I must say that i hasn't always been very good. Take a look at most of the choral padagogues which all came from the madz - which, admit it - most patterns their sound to madz. Now, contemplate on this .....

Question for all:

Does a qualified singer equal a qualified conductor?

[loneranger]

Question for all:

Does a qualified singer equal a qualified conductor?

Hoy! Hoy! Hoy! Hindi anoh! Excuse me! Merong mga voice trainors sa mga conservatory na hindi marunong mag-train ng choir.

Regarding MADz et al, baka magaling lang dun sigurado yung kay Jojo Velasco, Robert Delgado, and Anna Abeleda. Wala na.

[BobcatX]

Question for all:

Does a qualified singer equal a qualified conductor?

I don't think so... a good singer doesn't exactly mean that he could be a good conductor too, but it could also happen that a good singer could be a good conductor too and vice versa... There are a handful of people out there who are good singers and good conductors too...

And, a good conductor doesn't equally mean a good singer too...

You are a very talented person and a very lucky person if you are able to sing and conduct very well...
-=-=-
On a side note, congrats to Coro Animo for a very good concert in DLSU Greenhills last night. They were amazing. I am now a fan of theirs.

[whirlingwhirlin]

Hi! I'm from the UA&P Chorale. :) Thanks for your constructive comments on our performances. Please pray for us, as we are training and raising funds for our first international competition in July. :eyecrazy:

Anyway, I'd just like to know if anyone else here is participating in the MADZ et al Festival featuring "The Triumphs of Oriana" this May (all 4 Saturdays at Philamlife, 7:30 p.m.). We will be singing on May 7, together with Coro Cantabile, Lifeline Chorale, and Yamaha Children's Choir. Which choirs will singing for the other 3 nights? Will any of you be watching? Just curious :)

May 28 *** Ateneo Chamber Singers, UE Chorale, Manila Chamber Singers. di ko na alam *** iba pa. ehhehehehe

[freebie_ph]

On a side note, congrats to Coro Animo for a very good concert in DLSU Greenhills last night. They were amazing. I am now a fan of theirs.


Thanks BobcatX for watching our concert! :) We will be performing in madz et al's Triumph's of Oriana on May 14 PhilAM Life Theater. :blush2:

[QRST]

Mas sweet: yup, the two are one and the same. magaling sila, thanks to our lowla robert who is their conductor. Ipagdasal natin sila kasi lalaban sila sa Marktoberdorf in 3 weeks, sa all male category. Mej matitinik ang mga choirs na sasali. I will be part of the jury this year sa Marktoberdorf, pero that doesn't mean anything with regards Philippine choirs na sasali. Yun lang.

Choirmaster, sana naman po pag-uwi niyo from Marktoberdorf, uwian niyo rin kami ng mga balita tungkol sa mga choirs na sumali, anong rep, sound and interpretations nila, sino ang mga (Janice) hurado, etc. Atsaka how do the RP choirs fare as compared to these choirs. Kahit mga behind the scenes, ok din! Chika lang in short. Hehe :)

Bihira po kasi na dumating ang mga first hand information na ito mula sa isang tao na nandun mismo sa gitna ng laban, kumbaga.

Goodluck in your judging! You are truly on the most high flying and consistent leaders of the national choral world... and now truly an international one!

[sleeplacker]

* I just got this from the poster. :) So that's 4 Saturdays of May, 2 shows a day... all shows are at Philamlife Auditorium, U.N. Avenue, Manila. For ticket reservations, you may text or call 0917-8442674 & 0916-4362500. Ticket price: P300


May 7, 3:30 p.m.
Asian Youth Singing Ambassadors (Sharon Abesamis)
Our Lady of Fatima University Chorale (Philip Mabunga)
Philippine Children's Choir from Mandaluyong (Sebastian Trinidad)

May 7, 7:30 p.m.
Coro Cantabile (Sharon Abesamis)
Lifeline Chorale (Warlito Yalung)
University of Asia and the Pacific Chorale (Arwin Tan)
Yamaha Children's Choir (Terence Guillermo)

May 14, 3:30 p.m.
Caceres Chorale (Roy Legaspi)
Coro de San Sebastian (Elsie Eranista)
Napocor Chorale (Anna Abeleda-Piquero)
Singing Christians (Sebastian Trinidad)

May 14, 7:30 p.m.
Celestial Echoes (Warlito Yalung)
Chorus Paulinus (Fred de Santos)
Coro Animo (Liaa Kathryna Ambrosio)
GHC Chorale (Alfred Samonte)

May 21, 3:30 p.m.
A Capella Manila (Noel Bugarin)
Ateneo de Manila College Glee Club (Malou Hermo)
Cultural Center of the Philippines Chorale (Arwin Tan)
Tinig Zone 5 (Fred de Santos)

May 21, 7:30 p.m.
College of the Immaculate Conception Chorale - Cabanatuan City (Alfred Samonte)
Coro de Sta. Cecilia (Christopher Borela)
Kilyawan Boys Choir (Mark Anthony Carpio)
UPLB Chorale (Nilo Alcala II)

May 28, 3:30 p.m.
CJ Learning Center Choir (Emmanuel Miranda)
Coro Dela Reina (Dennis Villacorta)
Manila Chamber Singers (Joel Aquino)
St. Paul University Chorale (Elsie Eranista)
University of the East Chorale (Anna Abeleda-Piquero)

May 28, 7:30 p.m.
Anima Christi Chorale (Joel Anda Boragay)
Ateneo Chamber Singers (Jonathan Velasco)
Metro Bank Chorale (Fred de Santos)
Novo Concertante Manila (Arwin Tan)

[choirmaster]

QRST: Hindi naman. *blush* chiz. Balita ko kasama si pareng Eric (odiva first name basis daw). That's Whitacre. hehehe... iparinig ko ba ang aming I thank you God...? Baka ako himatayin sa kanyang reaction. Sige balitaan ko kayo.

[marcus74]

ano ang balita sa ust singers?

[yUCK_Fou!]

Hello! Medyo ngayon ko lang nasubaybayan ang thread na ito. Medyo bago-bago rin kase ako sa chorale scene (actually, matagal na naglie-low at kailan lang bumabalik). Naiinis lang ako dahil kung nanumbalik agad yung hilig ko sa pagkanta eh sana, at least, nagtry ako sumali sa chorale group ng university ko back then. Nanghihinayang ako sa mga pwede ko sanang matutunan. Pero ngayon na parang "passion" na talaga sa akin ang chorale singing, eh wala na. Graduate na ng college (hehe)! Kaya eto, sumali sa mga church choirs. Pero problema pa rin dahil maganda sana kung yung ibang mga miyembro eh may same level of passion, or higit pa kesa sa akin. Nangyayari tuloy, nastu-stuck sa mga kantang madadali, at 'di ko nafi-feel ang "improvement," sa sarili ko at sa group as a whole.

Eto tanong ko. Is there such thing as "a bit too late to start from scratch and grow" in chorale singing? Eto kasi regret ko talaga. Feeling ko kung tinuloy-tuloy ko lang yung pagkanta since grade school ako (Las Piñas Boys Choir ako before) hanggang college, sobra siguro sa ngayon ang improvement ko. Haaay.

Oo nga pala. Naintriga ako kay choirmaster. Hehe. Ikaw ba at si Mr. Jonathan Velasco ay iisa? Pasensya na at baguhan lang dito. :P

[alanangmaisip]

I'm baaaaaccckkk! Kumusta na ang mga hitad sa thread na itich?

Anyways, maiba tayo ng usapan.

Napanuod ko ang UPSA sa kanilang farewell concert sa Philam recently. Pupunta pala ang mga bata sa Europa. UPSA dear, masyado yata kayong tahimik sa inyong mga aktibidades. Paramdam naman kayo sa mga lolah nyong magaganda't chaka sa thread na itich!

Masasabi ko lang sa concert nyo ay...WINNER ang Yanni's Aria n'yo! I swear, daig n'yo pa ang madz at ue chorale sa version n'yo. Tarush talaga yung nag-duet! Light and pleasant without being overpowering, and effortless lalo na sa high notes! I like it! Parang nakikiliti ako habang kinakanta n'yo ang aria.

Balanced at refined ang tunog n'yo in most of your songs. Wala lang kayong masyadong vocal calisthenics (that Filipinos have a taste for), but the sound is definitely very European! I'm sure wagi na naman kayo sa Europa.

Good luck sa inyo! :naughty2:

[jon_ldm]

is it true na si Erwin Andaya from the UST Singers ay umuupo na rin ngayon sa semi-circle ng MADZ?

[popwinter]

ano ang balita sa ust singers?

UST Singers to perform with international music artists
Manila Bulletin

After a successful eight-month long world tour last year, the UST Singers are at it again. The group will once again share their gift of music, this time in Korea and the United States.

Titled, "Journey On," the two-month tour will be held on April 15.

The group’s most celebrated performance will be at the Kemper Arena in Kansas City on May 7, at the "Springtime of Faith," a Catholic celebration of faith of the Archdiocese of Kansas City, sponsored by the same archdiocese.

To perform with the UST Singers are American tenor Daniel Rodriguez, Grammy award winner Aaron Neville, Dove Award winner Rachel Lampa and the Irish Tenors.

"People who have heard us perform on Fox Channel in Milwaukee and Cleveland last year paved way for this invitation. This tour is another opportunity to showcase the artistry and unique music talent of the Filipinos on international stage. We are proud and grateful that the UST Singers are the only Asian performers in this grand event," enthused Prof. Fidel Gener Calalang, Jr., conductor.

The UST Singers will start its journey to Korea, where they will present a series of concerts at Daejeon Expo Art Hall, Daegu Cultural Center Hall along with the Pilgrim Mission Choir, grand prize winner of the 2nd International Choir Olympics, at the Taejam Art Hall on April 16, 17, 18, respectively.

The concerts are organized and sponsored by Prof. Jae Joon Lee, director of the International Choir Festival of Daegu.

He is also the conductor of several prominent choirs in Korea including the Pilgrim Mission Choir and Daegu City Ladies Chorus.

The choir will be heading off to the United States and shall be visiting 12 states across the continent — California, Nevada, Utah, Washington, New York, New Jersey, Colorado, Missouri, Ohio, Indiana, Pennsylvania and Illinois.

The US leg will be highlighted by a concert at the Marriot Marquis, Broadway Ballroom in New York City, an event sponsored by the UST Medical Alumni Association in America.

The UST Singers will also perform with the University of Utah Singers under the baton of Dr. Brady Allred and presentations at the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels in Los Angeles, University of Washington in Seattle and at Seattle Center for the Philippine Independence Day celebration.

Having been recognized for a decade now as the "Choir of the World," the UST Singers has continuously brought pride and honor to the country having won over 45 international top prizes and distinctions around the world.

The latest being the winner of "Excellence Avec Distinction" for having garnered the highest score in the mixed choir category and the "Ville De Vevey Jury Prize" for best programming and interpretation at the Montreux International Choral Festival in Switzerland; Best Choir award at the World Choral Festival 2004 at Puebla, Mexica, from aong other choirs representing Italy, Spain, Czech Republic, Mexico, Serbia and Montenegro, Portugal and Poland; and a proclamation written and signed by Honorable Jeremy Harris, Mayor of Honolulu, declaring August 20, as "UST Singers Day."

The group will also be releasing a double CD compilation of the best of the UST Singers’ Filipino, international and popular tunes from their past recordings called "Journey On."

This album was recorded and produced by JB Music Company based in Germany

http://www.mb.com.ph/SCTY2005041332527.html

[popwinter]

some links:

www.ust-singers.com

http://www.jb-music.de/shop/artikel.php?id=30&

http://www.conncoll.edu/news/articles/buildarticle.cgi?956065398.txt

http://www.the-tidings.com/2002/1220/concert.htm
http://www.uv.es/cultura/v/efim/musicadim02capella04.htm
http://www.stqv.org/ust_singers/1.htm

[zion]

I'm baaaaaccckkk! Kumusta na ang mga hitad sa thread na itich?

Anyways, maiba tayo ng usapan.

Napanuod ko ang UPSA sa kanilang farewell concert sa Philam recently. Pupunta pala ang mga bata sa Europa. UPSA dear, masyado yata kayong tahimik sa inyong mga aktibidades. Paramdam naman kayo sa mga lolah nyong magaganda't chaka sa thread na itich!

Masasabi ko lang sa concert nyo ay...WINNER ang Yanni's Aria n'yo! I swear, daig n'yo pa ang madz at ue chorale sa version n'yo. Tarush talaga yung nag-duet! Light and pleasant without being overpowering, and effortless lalo na sa high notes! I like it! Parang nakikiliti ako habang kinakanta n'yo ang aria.

Balanced at refined ang tunog n'yo in most of your songs. Wala lang kayong masyadong vocal calisthenics (that Filipinos have a taste for), but the sound is definitely very European! I'm sure wagi na naman kayo sa Europa.

Good luck sa inyo! :naughty2:

I share your sentiments, alanangmaisip (obviously, may naiisip ka rin pala, hehe). Ako naman, nanood sa Abelardo Hall ng UPCM. Magaling ang present batch nila. What I found very interesting is the fact that their repertoire is evolving into a more mature one. I mean, with the exception of a few "tried-and-tested" songs like Inday sa Balitaw and Katakataka, most of their pieces are all profoundly new to my ears. They sung their competition pieces and it just blew me away--very difficult avantgard pieces relying on dissonant arrangements that aptly showcased the choir's gung-ho attitude in attacking the song without sacrificing vocal precision.

UPSA, bring home the bacon. :)

[chaka_khan]

Question:

1. Kasama ba ang Choir of the World contest (forgot the official British name of the contest) sa Top 6 EGP competitions? Kung hindi, Bakit?

2. Pinatos na ba ng ibang mga sikat na choir (like Madz, ACGC, UPSA, etc.) ang Choir of the World contest na yan? Kung oo, anong placing nila? Kung di pa nila pinatos (considering na banner title ng USTE singers ang titulo for a decade now), bakit?

Just wondering.

[jon_ldm]

Choirmutter,

sana po sa mga attendees nyo ng AILM Choral Workshops e magkaroon kayo ng parang exams sa kanilang respective choirs kung naaply nila yng mga itinuturo nyo sa kanila... kasi merong ilan na just for the sake na masabing nag-attend sila, they spend the money of their sponsors/schools... tpos kapag application na, wala rin at balik parin sila sa dati nilang techniques and styles na di mo mawari kung saan nila nakuha... kawawa lang yung mga choirs nila na umaasang matuto sa mga so-called "choir directors"...
sana po may monitoring tayo para makita ang development ng mga choirs... salamat po...

[jon_ldm]

choirmaster,

try to listen to Coro Angeleno of Immaculate Conception Parish, Balibago, Angeles City... their conductor is Eric Robert Santos, formerly with the MADZ, and a present member of San Miguel Master Chorale... Mr. Eudenice Palaruan and Mr. Ryan Cayabyab have heard this choir sing...

[Jerusalem]

Question:

1. Kasama ba ang Choir of the World contest (forgot the official British name of the contest) sa Top 6 EGP competitions? Kung hindi, Bakit?

2. Pinatos na ba ng ibang mga sikat na choir (like Madz, ACGC, UPSA, etc.) ang Choir of the World contest na yan? Kung oo, anong placing nila? Kung di pa nila pinatos (considering na banner title ng USTE singers ang titulo for a decade now), bakit?

Just wondering.

chaka khan,

i dont think its included in the EGP group. by the way, beautiful name (no pun intended). peace out.

[GadoGado]

Question:

1. Kasama ba ang Choir of the World contest (forgot the official British name of the contest) sa Top 6 EGP competitions? Kung hindi, Bakit?

2. Pinatos na ba ng ibang mga sikat na choir (like Madz, ACGC, UPSA, etc.) ang Choir of the World contest na yan? Kung oo, anong placing nila? Kung di pa nila pinatos (considering na banner title ng USTE singers ang titulo for a decade now), bakit?

Just wondering.

If you are talking about the choir of the world title sa Llangolen, hindi pa nga ito pinapatos ng ibang mga sikat na choir like Madz, ACGC, UPSA, etc. for the main reason na hindi nila ito sinalihan. hindi ata kasi pumapasok ang schedule ng competition na ito sa tour schedules ng mga nasabing choir.

[GadoGado]

chaka khan,

i dont think its included in the EGP group. by the way, beautiful name (no pun intended). peace out.

Tama si Jerusalem. Furthermore, the 6 members of the EGP association is formed by the competitions in Tours (France), Arrezzo (Italy), Gorizia (Italy), Tolosa (Spain), and two associate competitions from Varna (Bulgaria) and Debrecen (Hungary)

Source: 29ème Florilege Vocal de Tours (2000) Programme

[ibongadarna1]

Question:

1. Kasama ba ang Choir of the World contest (forgot the official British name of the contest) sa Top 6 EGP competitions? Kung hindi, Bakit?

2. Pinatos na ba ng ibang mga sikat na choir (like Madz, ACGC, UPSA, etc.) ang Choir of the World contest na yan? Kung oo, anong placing nila? Kung di pa nila pinatos (considering na banner title ng USTE singers ang titulo for a decade now), bakit?

Just wondering.

Hoy,hoy, hoy chaka_khan!!! Nag-uumpisa ka ng intriga ha. At bakit? Kaya walang pumatos dun eh kasi di nila kaya ang ganung kabigat na kompitisyon. :crazytongue: Tsaka anong pakialam mo kung banner tittle nila ito eh talaga namang wala ni isa sa mga choirs ang nangahas sumali dun. Siguro isa ka sa mga miyembro na kasali sa isang choir na sobrang inggit sa uste......"maghilamos ka nga", "kabron, kabron"!!!

[angbahomo69]

Ehkkkkkkkkkkkk! Hello kumare! :naughty: Longtime no here. Eto na ulit ako upang ukrayion ang mababahong yan. :ferocious: Sino ba ang kaaway mong ito at mukhang maykayabangan ang damuhong iyan. chaka_khan???? Hayaan mo at matutuklasan din natin kung sino man ang "mahaderang intrgerang yan".

Alam mo ba mare na di ako maka login? Natsugi yata ako ng ating mahal na moderator na halatang hindi ako favorite. Anyways, tuloy ang intriga kung yan gusto ng mabahong chaka_khan na yan.

Nabalitaan mo ba ang madz et al na yan? Nood tayo tapos post natin dito sa pex ang mga walang karapatang choirs na kakanta dun. Saya nito. Basta magsuot tayo ng macho para di nila akalaing ikaw si ibongadarna at ako si angbahomo69. See you mare!

[chaka_khan]

And see you both there sa Madz et al, "ibon" and "baho." Sa totoo lang, kahit kayo nang -ookray, eh, tuwang-tuwa ako sa mga kabaklaan nyo. You made my day mga bru! Wee!!! Ang saya-saya! :diablo:

[ibongadarna1]

And see you both there sa Madz et al, "ibon" and "baho." Sa totoo lang, kahit kayo nang -ookray, eh, tuwang-tuwa ako sa mga kabaklaan nyo. You made my day mga bru! Wee!!! Ang saya-saya! :diablo:

Hehehehehe! Aba at mukhang tinablan ang bruha. Hoy,,, alam naming mas bakla ka sa amin. Sa totoo lang eh ikaw siguro pinaka pangit na baklang makikita namin doon. Subukan mo lang magpakilala doon at ngipin mo lang ang walang kalmot sa amin. Sigurado akong kasama ka sa mga choir na kakanta doon maaring kayo ang pinaka pangit na sasali dun. Pangit, Pangit, Pangit!!! :crazytongue: Mas bakla, bakla, bakla! :clown3:

[angbahomo69]

Hehehehehe! Aba at mukhang tinablan ang bruha. Hoy,,, alam naming mas bakla ka sa amin. Sa totoo lang eh ikaw siguro pinaka pangit na baklang makikita namin doon. Subukan mo lang magpakilala doon at ngipin mo lang ang walang kalmot sa amin. Sigurado akong kasama ka sa mga choir na kakanta doon maaring kayo ang pinaka pangit na sasali dun. Pangit, Pangit, Pangit!!! :crazytongue: Mas bakla, bakla, bakla! :clown3:

Hahahahaha! I told you mare, eh di pumatol nga at girl na girl ang reaction. Don't worry, kaya nating hanapin ang pangit na tsarat ang ilong na iyan. Madaling maamoy yan kasi mabaho at masangsang. "chaka_khan, the ultimate baho", hahahahahaha!

[loneranger]

Well, di naman ***** pangit ang mga kasali sa mdaz et al na yan. I'm sure may magagaling like the Ateneo Chamber, UE Chorale. Ang dalawang ito lang siduro ang may karapatan. I'v seen the et al last year and it was a waste of money. What else is new this time?

Anyways, mukhang ngitngit na ngitngit na ang dalawang ito kay chaka_khan. I dont blame you ladies, I also sensed the motive behind what chaka-khan posted.

[realized]

i watched two saturdays na..there were also great choirs nung 2 saturdays..

for me, these choirs were great the past 2 saturdays

Philippine Children's Choir of Mandaluyong(Baste)
--in fairness to these kids, *** choice of pieces nila ay ndi madali ah..

OLFU Chorale(Philip Mabunga)
--who would have thought na maayos ang choir na it0? they sounded really good..medyo i found it medyo UPSA-ish..ganda nung madrigal nila ..

Coro Animo (Liaa Ambrosio)
--the alumni of DLSU Chorale proved that ndi sa number of singers makukuha ang ganda ng sound..with only 13 yata or 14 performers last saturday, they bested the 3 other choirs, well for my opinion..

Napocor Chorale(Anna Abeleda)
--nag iba na sound nila compared sa last performance nila..well i think tinututukan na ni ms.anna=)

2 more saturdays and i might watch pa...***** lang...=)

[whirlingwhirlin]

please watch the madz et al concert series on may 28.. 7:30 pm...

Ateneo Chamber Singers
Manila Chamber Singers
Novo Concertante Manila
Anima Christi Chorale
Metrobank Chorale...

:crazytongue:

[Boccelli]

I would love to catch ACS on their performance date.. :)

Thanks to those who watched this Saturday. We'll surely accept constructive criticisms for our performance. :)

[angbahomo69]

Di ko pa nakakausap ang aking kumare. Pero kung ako ang tatanungin nyo sa mga napanood ko na ay wala pang qualified. Sa tingin ko din eh mukhang yong choir ni chaka-kan ang pinaka pangit kumanta dun. Madali namang malalaman ang kay chaka-kan dahil maaamoy ito agad dahil sobrang babaho. :diablo:

[chaka_khan]

Di ko pa nakakausap ang aking kumare. Pero kung ako ang tatanungin nyo sa mga napanood ko na ay wala pang qualified. Sa tingin ko din eh mukhang yong choir ni chaka-kan ang pinaka pangit kumanta dun. Madali namang malalaman ang kay chaka-kan dahil maaamoy ito agad dahil sobrang babaho. :diablo:

You're SUPER WRONG! Wala akong choir sa Madz et. al. Yan na nga ba ang sinasabi ko sa mga nag-mamarunong na booba naman. Hahahaha! Hantingin nyo ako hanggang sa gusto nyo. I'm pretty sure, di nyo ako mahuhuli. Weeeee!!! :crazytongue:

Anyway, CONGRATS SA MGA SUMALI SA MADZ ET AL. YOU"RE ALL WINNERS FOR ME! :)

[ibongadarna1]

You're SUPER WRONG! Wala akong choir sa Madz et. al. Yan na nga ba ang sinasabi ko sa mga nag-mamarunong na booba naman. Hahahaha! Hantingin nyo ako hanggang sa gusto nyo. I'm pretty sure, di nyo ako mahuhuli. Weeeee!!! :crazytongue:

Anyway, CONGRATS SA MGA SUMALI SA MADZ ET AL. YOU"RE ALL WINNERS FOR ME! :)

"SIPSEEEEEEEEEEEP"!!!!!!!!! :ferocious: Oy, oy, oy! Sino ang nagsabi sayong pagtiyagaan ka naming hantingin? Ano naman ang mapapala namin sa isang kagaya mong katulad din namin. By the way, Pano mo napili ang pangalan mong chaka_kan? Dapat na pangalan mo eh "Sinakal" dahil ang itsura mo siguro eh yong bagong sakal. :clown3:

Wag ka nang mag maang mangan pa. May choir ka dun at siguradong ang pangit pangit kamanta. Weeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! :crazytongue:

[chaka_khan]

"SIPSEEEEEEEEEEEP"!!!!!!!!! :ferocious: Oy, oy, oy! Sino ang nagsabi sayong pagtiyagaan ka naming hantingin? Ano naman ang mapapala namin sa isang kagaya mong katulad din namin. By the way, Pano mo napili ang pangalan mong chaka_kan? Dapat na pangalan mo eh "Sinakal" dahil ang itsura mo siguro eh yong bagong sakal. :clown3:

Wag ka nang mag maang mangan pa. May choir ka dun at siguradong ang pangit pangit kamanta. Weeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! :crazytongue:

See! Di inamin din na magkatulad din pala tayong mga hitad! Kafatid! Birds of a feather, flock together, INDEED! Luv ya! :naughty2:

[ibongadarna1]

See! Di inamin din na magkatulad din pala tayong mga hitad! Kafatid! Birds of a feather, flock together, INDEED! Luv ya! :naughty2:

Hay type!!!! ok chaka_khan, I love you too, Sige, bati na tayo basta wag mo na lang "okray" ang aking choir. Take care ha..... :)

[angbahomo69]

I would love to catch ACS on their performance date.. :)

Thanks to those who watched this Saturday. We'll surely accept constructive criticisms for our performance. :)

Hello Boccelli dear. pwede bang matanong kung saang choir ka kumanta last saturday?

[madrasta30]

Madrigal Et Al, I've heard them all and what a terrible dissapointment. I totally agree with one of the pexers na nakapanood last year na it was a waste of money. It was indeed a waste not only of money but of time as well. May I suggest to the concert committee of the Madrigal Et Al to screen first their participants before allowing them to perform in public in the future. Musicians are BORN and NOT MADE. Being a madrigal singers, former or present doesn't give you the Go Signal na qualified ka na mag conduct ng choir.

Why don't you hold an audition? It's one of the best way to select the most qualified choirs for an annual program of yours like this. Pagsamasamahin na lang sana yong mga may karapatan in two separate days at wag ipilit sa manonod na kagaya namin ang mga nagpipilit.

There is another saturday left, the 28th of May. I'll be watching it again. Hopefully nandito yong mga may karapatan.

Daghan nga salamat, maayong gabi.

[angbahomo69]

Madrigal Et Al, I've heard them all and what a terrible dissapointment. I totally agree with one of the pexers na nakapanood last year na it was a waste of money. It was indeed a waste not only of money but of time as well. May I suggest to the concert committee of the Madrigal Et Al to screen first their participants before allowing them to perform in public in the future. Musicians are BORN and NOT MADE. Being a madrigal singers, former or present doesn't give you the Go Signal na qualified ka na mag conduct ng choir.

Why don't you hold an audition? It's one of the best way to select the most qualified choirs for an annual program of yours like this. Pagsamasamahin na lang sana yong mga may karapatan in two separate days at wag ipilit sa manonod na kagaya namin ang mga nagpipilit.

There is another saturday left, the 28th of May. I'll be watching it again. Hopefully nandito yong mga may karapatan.

Daghan nga salamat, maayong gabi.



Wow ha, ang galing nito. Hi Madrasta30, hice meeting you and you're right, puro sila trying hard at ma fantasya at ilusyonada. Email mo ako at ng makapag huntahan tayo.

Nasaan ba ang aking kumareng angbahomo69 at napag lilipasan yata. Gising mare at may pagpipistahan tayo. EEEEEEEEEEEKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!

[bajo_ako]

madz et al is truly a success since it entices the general choral community to be a part of its performances by stirring the imagination of listeners who are either excited to revel in a sharing of music or thrilled to once again put people down.

[chaka_khan]

from what i know, the only requirements in joining madz et al are that: 1. your conductor should come from madz, and 2. you pay a specific "participation fee." kaya siguro may mga chakang choir na nakakasali. sayang ang pangalan ng madz.

dapat nga, may screening din ng choirs dyan. di naman kailangan sobrang galing ng sasali, basta ba may dating or potential.

why not organize a USTE et. al. naman? hmmm... :flame:

[ibongadarna1]

madz et al is truly a success since it entices the general choral community to be a part of its performances by stirring the imagination of listeners who are either excited to revel in a sharing of music or thrilled to once again put people down.

Aba at sino kaya ang bajo_ako na ito. Hoy ditche, hindi kami nag pu-put down ng people ano. Nagbibigay kami ng opinion. :ferocious: Tama naman ang obserbasyon ni Madrasta30. Gusto mo ba sabihin na maganda kahit hindi. Palagay ko eh isa ka sa mga conductor na bano doon o maaring alalay ka ng isang choir sa madz et al na inuutusan ng mga miyembrong bumili ng mcdo or burger king na malapit sa philam.

Masama bang magbigay kami ng opinion? Talaga namang madaming walang karapatan doon ah! Siguro conductor sa bus pwede pa pero hindi ng choir. Ikaw nga magbayad ng ticket, magpakahirap mamasahe papunta, pumila tapos eh mga ganung pang baranggay lang pala ang madidinig mo.

[QRST]

Di ba meron pa this weekend... mukhang exciting ang madz et al this weekend...

Ateneo Chamber Singers
Manila Chamber Singers
Novo Concertante Manila
Anima Christi Chorale
Metrobank Chorale...

[sleeplacker]

Hi! Novo Concertante Manila already sang last Saturday (May 21). There has been a change in the schedule. The CCP Chorale will be taking their place on May 28. FYI :)

[loneranger]

from what i know, the only requirements in joining madz et al are that: 1. your conductor should come from madz, and 2. you pay a specific "participation fee." kaya siguro may mga chakang choir na nakakasali. sayang ang pangalan ng madz.

dapat nga, may screening din ng choirs dyan. di naman kailangan sobrang galing ng sasali, basta ba may dating or potential.

why not organize a USTE et. al. naman? hmmm... :flame:

Good Day Chaka_khan.

I agree with you and Madrasta30. Dapat talaga may screening din sila kasi ang dami talagang chaka sa madz et al na yan. It's about time na mamili naman sila. Malaking kalokohan na itong ginagawa nila sa mga mahilig manood ng choir. I think they are trying to establish a trend na komo madz eh qualified conductors na. On the other hand , pwede din naman sabihin nila na they are encouraging their members na maging future conductors kaya sila may madz et al. Pero naman, PLEASE........not on our expense because we're the paying public at gusto natin yong masiyahan tayo sa pinapanood natin.

Hindi lahat eh pwedeng maging conductor ano. Imagine, di ko na sasabihin ang pangalan ng choir, pero sobrang tibay ng mga naturalesa at nangahas pakantahin ang kanilang mga choir.

Madami din namang pwede like yong choir ni Jojo Velasco, Malou Hermo, Robert Delgado, Arwin Tan, Ana Abeleda, Sebastian Trinidad. Ito ang mga kwalipikado. Pero yong iba pwede ba, tigilan sana kami. Magsikanta na lang sila at wag ng mag conduct ng choir.

[aragorn99]

To all those who do not know what the annual madz et al is all about, here is what i think it is... it has been a long time dream of nat'l artist Andrea Veneracion to have festivals like these wherein the events are participated by so many singing choirs may they be good or not so good. The main goal is for the filipino audiences to see who the Filipino choirs are (at least within the madz circle) and for the participating choirs to see where they are standing right now, and how they fare in the philippine choral world to say the least.

I see your point, choirs should be screened but that is not the main goal here. You ask me where am i heading?... the madz et al event is one of the training grounds for the choirs, not only for the choirs of present and alumni members of the madz but is now also extended for those who participated in choral workshops one of those is the Anima Christi Chorale and others as well... to cut it short, they perform... we criticize.

Actually, this year the madz even made it tougher by bringing in madrigal pieces for the participating choirs to sing. Hard though it may seem, they took up the challenge hoping that by this event they (the participating choirs) would know what to do next time they will have a concert and at the same time they hope to gather some following.

Take for example, the novo concertante manila... they started out shaky when they started out but little by little you see growth in them and i think a big part of this is because they continue to support the madz et al series and vice versa. Now they are one of the most promising choirs out there. Another is the ue chorale, nobody thought then that they would fare well in europe but because they continually participate in the et al event, their skills are continually honed maybe not technically because anna trained them well but because a lot of the audience noticed them, audiences that have never heard them before are listening to them now and that helped them to be what they are right now. Them and the others as well.

Having said my piece... I rest my case. :stan:

Ciao!

[loneranger]

We got your point but please, you still have to screen them. Let's face it aragorn99, not everybody in madz eh pwede ng maging conductor. I think you'll be more of help to the chakas pag may screening cause mag pupursige ang mga hindi mapipili at kung wala talaga itong talento eh hindi ito makukuha sa pilit o tiyaga.

Gusto namin sana na makapanood ng mga may ibubuga kaysa sa mga chaka.

[choir_director]

It is also my opinion that those people behind the Madz Et Al have a great responsibility to the viewing public. Masakit man sabihin pero hindi talaga pwede ang ibang choirs na nandun.Ours is a suggestion. Screen them for heaven sake at walang masama doon. Better yet, magpa contest kayo sa mga members ninyong may choir, invite judges na hindi biased, select the best 10 at iyon ang isama ninyo sa et al. Thanks a lot.

[fed_up]

To all those who do not know what the annual madz et al is all about, here is what i think it is... it has been a long time dream of nat'l artist Andrea Veneracion to have festivals like these wherein the events are participated by so many singing choirs may they be good or not so good. The main goal is for the filipino audiences to see who the Filipino choirs are (at least within the madz circle) and for the participating choirs to see where they are standing right now, and how they fare in the philippine choral world to say the least.

I see your point, choirs should be screened but that is not the main goal here. You ask me where am i heading?... the madz et al event is one of the training grounds for the choirs, not only for the choirs of present and alumni members of the madz but is now also extended for those who participated in choral workshops one of those is the Anima Christi Chorale and others as well... to cut it short, they perform... we criticize.

Actually, this year the madz even made it tougher by bringing in madrigal pieces for the participating choirs to sing. Hard though it may seem, they took up the challenge hoping that by this event they (the participating choirs) would know what to do next time they will have a concert and at the same time they hope to gather some following.

Take for example, the novo concertante manila... they started out shaky when they started out but little by little you see growth in them and i think a big part of this is because they continue to support the madz et al series and vice versa. Now they are one of the most promising choirs out there. Another is the ue chorale, nobody thought then that they would fare well in europe but because they continually participate in the et al event, their skills are continually honed maybe not technically because anna trained them well but because a lot of the audience noticed them, audiences that have never heard them before are listening to them now and that helped them to be what they are right now. Them and the others as well.

Having said my piece... I rest my case. :stan:

Ciao!

i agree with aragorn...

in CHORAL FESTIVALS, choirs join because they want to make music and celebrate it without the pressures and quams of competition. kaya nga festival sya, root word: festive. so if we screen choirs to do this, we are denying them their right to celebrate and share their music with us, maski agreeable or hindi pa sa taste natin, the MADZ would not let anyone be denied of that right because, after all, the ultimate goal of the MADZ is to make this a singing country, a SINGING PHILIPPINES.

a choir has to start somewhere...and this would be the right venue for them to do that. the right exposure, the right audience who could greatly appreciate their efforts, and most of all, a place to be around with other musicians so they could learn from each other.

we are all entitled to our own opinion right? so this is mine.

[angbahomo69]

Ok, ok, ok! Pareho kayong may punto. I have a solution! Ibigay lahat sa akin ang mga chakang yan lalo na ang mga male section, yong mga lalaki lang ha??? Ako ang bahala sa kanila at isang araw ay gaganda na ang mga chakang yan. Patitirikin ko ang kanilang mga mata at matututo na silang ngumanga at magkakaron na sila ng expression sigurado pag kanta. Hehehehehehehe!!!!

Okey........CALLING ALL THE TRUE MALE SECTIONS OF ET AL CHAKAS, COME TO MAMA!

[mario_lanza]

A good friend of mine from Madz was kind enough to give me 2 tickets on a separate saturday's show. It was true, very dissapointing ang show. I told her my views about it and agree naman siya. Sabi nga niya wala daw kasing screening at basta member ka at may choir pwede na.

Kuha namin point mo fed_up and yours too aragorn99. I had a strong feeling that both of you were part of the organizing committee. Pero don't you think na self centered ang inyong idea ng madz et al, because it is us, the audience that you are denying of a good show?

This also my opinion and I'm entittled to it kahit pa libre lang ang tickets ko.

[fed_up]

mario_lanza, nope im not in the organizing committee and i respect your views just as i respect the others'.

but being self-centered? too strong a word. it was understood that the concerts were composed of choirs conducted by alumni and current members of the MADZ. its aim is to promote choral music and not to monopolize it. and i can say, a lot of choirs has benefited from this experience. so if the MADZ is self-centered, then it woul've not allowed its members to move on and share what they know to others right?

about denying the audience of a good show...hmmm...i have to agree. but i think the MADZ knows of the situation and that's why they had "balanced programming", mixing the big shots with the rookies.

we always have the option to step out or finish the show. and i admit, if sometimes i dont like what i hear, i do step out...just to avoid being too critical about it ;)

[ibongadarna1]

Hay nakuh, magsitigil na kayo! Tama na ang patutsadahang yan. Huwag kayong mag-alala at ako na ang bahala at ako na ang mangangasiwa ng susunod na madz et al. I'll put all togethere in one show all the big shots at yon lang ang lalabas sa madz et al. On the other hand, pagsasamahin ko din sa isang show ang mga chaka and the tittle of their concert will be - CHAKA ET AL.

So there you are, may concert na din sila at very exclusive pa, hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :crazytongue:

[chaka_khan]

i agree with aragorn...

in CHORAL FESTIVALS, choirs join because they want to make music and celebrate it without the pressures and quams of competition. kaya nga festival sya, root word: festive. so if we screen choirs to do this, we are denying them their right to celebrate and share their music with us, maski agreeable or hindi pa sa taste natin, the MADZ would not let anyone be denied of that right because, after all, the ultimate goal of the MADZ is to make this a singing country, a SINGING PHILIPPINES.

a choir has to start somewhere...and this would be the right venue for them to do that. the right exposure, the right audience who could greatly appreciate their efforts, and most of all, a place to be around with other musicians so they could learn from each other.

we are all entitled to our own opinion right? so this is mine.

Ya, I fully agree with both of you, except that you're missing one VITAL THING: We, the audience, PAY TO WATCH. So naturally, we want our money's worth, and it seems we're not getting it.

If you want, LIBRE na lang ang Madz et al, since may kita naman kayo sa "participation fee," para sa ganun, wala na kayong maririnig na issue tungkol sa screening ng quality ng choirs na nag-jo-join.

At para bawas sa production cost, gawin na lang ang et al sa mga malls like SM or if you want a more "artistic" atmosphere, sa paco park or concert at the park in luneta gawin. Tipid na kayo, reach out pa kayo sa mga masa. Yung San Miguel Master Chorale nga, magaling na, yet libre ang mga shows sa malls!

In short, we pay, you should deliver. Or else, libre na lang.

Watcha think mga mareng "ibon" at "baho"?

[angelita25]

Ya, I fully agree with both of you, except that you're missing one VITAL THING: We, the audience, PAY TO WATCH. So naturally, we want our money's worth, and it seems we're not getting it.

If you want, LIBRE na lang ang Madz et al, since may kita naman kayo sa "participation fee," para sa ganun, wala na kayong maririnig na issue tungkol sa screening ng quality ng choirs na nag-jo-join.

At para bawas sa production cost, gawin na lang ang et al sa mga malls like SM or if you want a more "artistic" atmosphere, sa paco park or concert at the park in luneta gawin. Tipid na kayo, reach out pa kayo sa mga masa. Yung San Miguel Master Chorale nga, magaling na, yet libre ang mga shows sa malls!

In short, we pay, you should deliver. Or else, libre na lang.

Watcha think mga mareng "ibon" at "baho"?


I share the idea of chaka_khan and I think it's great. Kung mas madami din lang ang mga palpak ay gawin na lang sanang libre para mag mukhang out-reach program pa. Bibili ka nga naman ng ticket tapos hindi naman worth ng pera mo ang mapapanood mo plus isama na natin ang pamasahe at hirap ng pagpunta sa venue at pag labas mo gutom ka pa at gagasta na naman sa pagkain.

[chor_dirigent]

The views and opinions expressed herein are all worth considering. I hope the people from the madz et al realized the situation. They should know where they stand now. This is unsolicited but please try to make some changes in future events para wala tayong mabasang ganito cause medyo masakit din.

[ibongadarna1]

Watcha think mga mareng "ibon" at "baho"?[/QUOTE]

Hi mareng chaka_khan! Sorry at medyo ngayon alang ako naka login dahil ang bwiset na internet cafe sa amin eh nagtaas pa ng presyo kaya eto at medyo tipid tipid ng konti.

Tama mare, tama ang iyong obserbasyon at obserbation din ng marami, kaya wala na akong ma say.

Take care mare and I wish you the best.

[GadoGado]

Madz et al could be a good venue for budding choirs to develop, saan pa ba naman kasi sila makakakuha ng opportunity to perform in venues like PhilAm life. However, i agree that the audience deserve good performances considering that they pay.

I have an idea, how about each et al concert would feature a rookie choir and an established choir. dapat creative lang ang pag tawag sa sections such as may Junior choirs section and a senior choirs section. parang may front act kumbaga for a more establish madz et al member choir. that way, the audience are somewhat guaranteed a performance from an established choir and at the same time may exposure na matatanggap ang rookie choir. What do you guys think?

[angelita25]

I'm so sorry to disagree with you GadoGado. The thing is, kung di pa pwede at wag munang pakantahin. And problema eh komo member ng madz eh pakantahin na for the sake lang na makakanta.

According to aragorn99, ganun daw nag umpisa si Ana Abeleda ng UE Chorale at Arwin Tan ng Novo Concvertante. It was due to madz support kaya sila naging magaling sang ayon sa kanya. Excuse me lang ha! Mga may talentong magturo iyon at di kailangan ng madz support para maging magaling ang tinuturuan.

Ang hindi marunong magturo, suportahan man ng buong pilipinas ay wala ding mangyayari.

[ibongadarna1]

I'm so sorry to disagree with you GadoGado. The thing is, kung di pa pwede at wag munang pakantahin. And problema eh komo member ng madz eh pakantahin na for the sake lang na makakanta.

According to aragorn99, ganun daw nag umpisa si Ana Abeleda ng UE Chorale at Arwin Tan ng Novo Concvertante. It was due to madz support kaya sila naging magaling sang ayon sa kanya. Excuse me lang ha! Mga may talentong magturo iyon at di kailangan ng madz support para maging magaling ang tinuturuan.

Ang hindi marunong magturo, suportahan man ng buong pilipinas ay wala ding mangyayari.

Nakuh ha! Di ko alam na mataray ka pala. Pa sweetie sweetie ka kasi noong una. That's my girl. itaguyod ang women's lib!

Anyways, tama ka, tama, tama, tama! Hindi lang buong pilipinas. Isama pa natin ang mga karatig bansa ay walang mangyayari pag walang gitf ang isang taga kumpas. Tulad ng mga napanood ko, QUE HORROR! kayo na ang manghula ng ibig kong sabihin.

Dapat sa kanila ay sumangguni muna kay Madam Auring at alamin ang mga payo nito.

[madrasta30]

There are 1001 justifications and 1001 suggestions but the fact remains, kailangan ng madz ang screening before allowing any choir of their members to join et al.

[QRST]

madami na rin ang nasabi sa madz et al na yan. kelangan ko lang i-share sa inyo ang naiisip ko.

noong wala pang madz et al, nagkakaroon lang ng konsyerto every so other months. tapos, ang choirs na nagpeperform on a full length concert ay isa sa isang daan. tapos nagkaroon ng madz et al. nagkaroon na ng regular concerts around town (every May, and every so often). naging matrabaho na ang pagbubuo ng choir dahil kelangan magperform at kelangan umabot ng isang antas na maipagmamalaki.

siguro, may mga ibang choirs na yun na ang pinakamahusay nila pero di nasiyahan ang mga tao. nagtiyaga na magpunta sa philam. nagpagod. nagutom. gumastos pa. tapos may comments pa na "i generally did not like the performances." of course you are entitled to that. everyone is entitled to what they think.

but let me just share with you a small point. isipin niyo na lang wlang madz et al. wlang performance tuwing May ng mga iba't ibang choirs. once every six months na lang ang mga concerts uli. walang effort na gumaling ang mga choirs kasi walang venue para magperform.

ganyan sa sitwasyon sa labas ng maynila, sa visayas, sa mindanao. kung akala niyo na kasumpa-sumpa ang pagkakaroon ng mga pangit na choral concerts, isipin niyo na lang kung walang concerts at all. maraming choirs sa luzon (outside manila), visayas at mindanao ang gustong-gusto magperform pero walang venue, walang following, walang support.

ito ang sitwasypn namin dito sa labas ng maynila. kung mura lang ang pamasahe papuntang philam (pero mahal siya P8,000 round trip via plane), pupunta kami dun para manuod. pwede kami ma-disappoint sa lackluster performance ng ibang choirs. pero matutuwa kami para sa mga choirs na may pagkakataon magperform. dami ang ibang choirs, walang pagkakataon.

i think that the madz et al is a golden opportunity for us in the choral world to develop our industry by becoming more accessible to a greater majority of people. this way, we can seek more support from people, making choral culture a part of the pop culture, thereby enabling more people to appreciate choral music. di ba ang gusto naman nating lahat is to make more people appreciate the beauty of choral music?

[chor_dirigent]

madami na rin ang nasabi sa madz et al na yan. kelangan ko lang i-share sa inyo ang naiisip ko.

noong wala pang madz et al, nagkakaroon lang ng konsyerto every so other months. tapos, ang choirs na nagpeperform on a full length concert ay isa sa isang daan. tapos nagkaroon ng madz et al. nagkaroon na ng regular concerts around town (every May, and every so often). naging matrabaho na ang pagbubuo ng choir dahil kelangan magperform at kelangan umabot ng isang antas na maipagmamalaki.

siguro, may mga ibang choirs na yun na ang pinakamahusay nila pero di nasiyahan ang mga tao. nagtiyaga na magpunta sa philam. nagpagod. nagutom. gumastos pa. tapos may comments pa na "i generally did not like the performances." of course you are entitled to that. everyone is entitled to what they think.

but let me just share with you a small point. isipin niyo na lang wlang madz et al. wlang performance tuwing May ng mga iba't ibang choirs. once every six months na lang ang mga concerts uli. walang effort na gumaling ang mga choirs kasi walang venue para magperform.

ganyan sa sitwasyon sa labas ng maynila, sa visayas, sa mindanao. kung akala niyo na kasumpa-sumpa ang pagkakaroon ng mga pangit na choral concerts, isipin niyo na lang kung walang concerts at all. maraming choirs sa luzon (outside manila), visayas at mindanao ang gustong-gusto magperform pero walang venue, walang following, walang support.

ito ang sitwasypn namin dito sa labas ng maynila. kung mura lang ang pamasahe papuntang philam (pero mahal siya P8,000 round trip via plane), pupunta kami dun para manuod. pwede kami ma-disappoint sa lackluster performance ng ibang choirs. pero matutuwa kami para sa mga choirs na may pagkakataon magperform. dami ang ibang choirs, walang pagkakataon.

i think that the madz et al is a golden opportunity for us in the choral world to develop our industry by becoming more accessible to a greater majority of people. this way, we can seek more support from people, making choral culture a part of the pop culture, thereby enabling more people to appreciate choral music. di ba ang gusto naman nating lahat is to make more people appreciate the beauty of choral music?

Well said QRST, thanks a lot. Pero those choirs will have their chance in the proper time but not for the time being. Mas mabuti na ang hindi muna sila makapag perform kesa pilitin ng sobrang wala pang ka alam alam ang mga miyembro. There were even choirs who did some challenging pieces na hindi pa kaya at ang nangyari tuloy ay sobrang palpak ng execution.

May I quote you in your last few sentences. How can you make more people to appreciate choral music kung ganun ang productong ihahain natin sa kanila. How can they see the beauty of choral music kung ganung kababa ang level na ipapakita natin sa kanila. Please pardon me QRST, I mean no offense pero talagang ganun ang naging situation ng madz et al na nakaraan.

Naniniwala pa din ako sa kasabihang............"There's no such thing as a bad choir, it's just a bad conductor"!

Screen them!!! Never encourage nor force them to handle a choir if they are not qualified. Kung sa pagkanta sila mahusay, dun sila magpakahusay.

[alanangmaisip]

Naniniwala pa din ako sa kasabihang............"There's no such thing as a bad choir, it's just a bad conductor"!

Screen them!!! Never encourage nor force them to handle a choir if they are not qualified. Kung sa pagkanta sila mahusay, dun sila magpakahusay.

Korek! Look at UPSA. Di naman talaga musikero ang mga miembro, pero dahil sa conductor, naging world-class ang beauty!

teka nga, matanong ko lang, san ba napupunta yung participation fee at ticket sales ng madz et al?

tama ang sinabi ni mareng chaka na libre na lang sana kung ganon ka-swangit ang quality. bakit ANONG MASAMA SA LIBRENG CONCERT? Hmp, ayoko mag-isip ng masama na pinagkakakitaan lang ang mga kawawang participants ng et al, huh? Comment! Comment!

[whirlingwhirlin]

Madz et al could be a good venue for budding choirs to develop, saan pa ba naman kasi sila makakakuha ng opportunity to perform in venues like PhilAm life. However, i agree that the audience deserve good performances considering that they pay.

I have an idea, how about each et al concert would feature a rookie choir and an established choir. dapat creative lang ang pag tawag sa sections such as may Junior choirs section and a senior choirs section. parang may front act kumbaga for a more establish madz et al member choir. that way, the audience are somewhat guaranteed a performance from an established choir and at the same time may exposure na matatanggap ang rookie choir. What do you guys think?


well, i agree with you GadoGado.... the madz et al is a good venue for budding choirs to develop..they give exposure sa mga choirs na bago palang para dahan dahan sila madevelop.. hindi competition ang madz et al kaya dont expext na gnun kagagaling lahat..

sa ibang nag rereklamo sa outcome ng madz et al, next tym, wag nalang kayo manuod. nag rereklamo kayo sa mga chaka choirs pati sa prices ng tickets, eh gustong gusto nyo naman manuod sa kanila...

wait lang, taga anong choir ba kayo? gnun ba kayo kagagaling?? :no:

[ibongadarna1]

well, i agree with you GadoGado.... the madz et al is a good venue for budding choirs to develop..they give exposure sa mga choirs na bago palang para dahan dahan sila madevelop.. hindi competition ang madz et al kaya dont expext na gnun kagagaling lahat..

sa ibang nag rereklamo sa outcome ng madz et al, next tym, wag nalang kayo manuod. nag rereklamo kayo sa mga chaka choirs pati sa prices ng tickets, eh gustong gusto nyo naman manuod sa kanila...

wait lang, taga anong choir ba kayo? gnun ba kayo kagagaling?? :no:

Hoy damuho, anong pakialam mo kung nagbibigay kami ng opinion! I have a strong feeling na isa ka sa mga conductor dun na tsaka ang choir, hahahahahaha, kaya nagpuputok ang butsi mo. :diablo: Pwede ba ha, mahiya ka naman at sa sususnod eh wag ka ng sumali dun. :ferocious:

lakas ng loob mo eh wala ka naman palang alam ang choir mo. Mabuti pa eh manlalaki ka na lang at wala kaming angal dun dahil di kami gagasta.

[ibongadarna1]

Hello Alanangmaisip! Tama ang mga tanong mo, malamang ay pinaghahatian nila yan at pinagkakwartahan and I'm shure itong whirlingwhirlin ang may pinakamalaking share dahil sobra daw itong lalakero.

Sa sobrang defensive nito eh sigurado akong yong choir niya ang pinaka pangit kumanta noon.

[loneranger]

Well, kung ako sa mga madz ay di na lang ako mag rereact para mamatay ang issue. Just let the people say what they want to say cause this is what pex is all about, freedom to speak.

Actually, may isang choir dun na magaling dati at medyo may pangalan na pero sobrang nagiba ito at naging chaka. Depende talaga ito sa nagtuturo.

[alanangmaisip]

Hello Alanangmaisip! Tama ang mga tanong mo, malamang ay pinaghahatian nila yan at pinagkakwartahan and I'm shure itong whirlingwhirlin ang may pinakamalaking share dahil sobra daw itong lalakero.

Sa sobrang defensive nito eh sigurado akong yong choir niya ang pinaka pangit kumanta noon.

(ala kris na accent) CORRECT! Hay! Tita ibon, nahahalata tuloy ang mga pikon na member ng et al! Ba't ba DEFENSIVE ka whirlingwhirlin, huh? sagutin mo na lang ang mga issue, pwede? San napupunta ang pera from the et al ticket sales at participation fee? bat kailangan pa ng tickets eh, pede namang libre since chaka naman ang mga choirs na sumasali. Pwede ba? :splat:

[sleeplacker]

San napupunta ang pera from the et al ticket sales at participation fee?

The proceeds from ticket sales go to the choirs. I think each choir was given 200 tickets, which we were allowed to sell and earn from. It really helped with our fundraising, even after we deducted the participation fee. :)

[choir_director]

The proceeds from ticket sales go to the choirs. I think each choir was given 200 tickets, which we were allowed to sell and earn from. It really helped with our fundraising, even after we deducted the participation fee. :)

Thank you sleeplacker for the info. Piece of advice.....please be selective in the next madz et al.

[alanangmaisip]

Sya, sya. Tama na yang madz et. al. at nakakasuya na. On to other issues.

Mga mare't pare! May ibabalita ako. Alam nyo ba ang De La Salle Voices, official choir ng De La Salle Lipa, ay nag-wagi ng 4th place sa compulsory piece category at best interpretation of a free piece (Tinig ng Lupa) out of a field of 15 countries sa Harmonie Choral Competition sa Germany. Every 6 years daw ito ginaganap. Totoo ba itich mga choir experts dine?

What's interesting here is that there were 2 other Filipino choirs who joined the contest, including the rising (and still rising) Imusicapella, na malayo daw ang placing.

Congrats sa Voices at sa conductor na si Mr. Joven Valeras na dating assistant conductor ng UST Singers at conductor ng Kammerchor Manila. Mabuhay ang USTE, este, Voices pala! eh-hi-hi-hi-hi! :D

[zion]

Wow! Galing naman ng Voices choir. Nice to know that there are good provincial choirs too at hindi lang monopoly ng Metro Manila choirs ang international competitions. Congrats kay Mr. Joven who, from what I've heard before, is a very good conductor. Ika nga, kung may Ana Abeleda ang Madz, may Mr. Joven ang USTE. Yan, dumadami na ang magagaling na conductors! Very good! :)

[sleeplacker]

Thank you sleeplacker for the info. Piece of advice.....please be selective in the next madz et al.

Haha! I'm not from the madz, I'm from one of the participating choirs (UA&P Chorale). :)

[whirlingwhirlin]

uhm, anong klaseng competition un?? :lol:

[alanangmaisip]

uhm, anong klaseng competition un?? :lol:

Ewan. Siguro isang kumpetisyon sa isang bansa sa europa na sinasalihan ng mga choirs mula sa iba't-ibang bansa na may nananalo at may natatalo at regardless kung kilala itich o hindi, the fact is, in the eyes of europeans, any filipino choir joining it represents the country in that competition.

Besides, for an up-and-coming choir like Voices, placing in a European competition (no matter its popularity) is a VERY GOOD START.

Luv ya whirl. :D

[whirlingwhirlin]

hahaha... yeah right.. ;)
i think yan rin yata *** competition na sasalihan sana ng san beda kaso hindi natuloy... :rolleyes:

[alanangmaisip]

hahaha... yeah right.. ;)
i think yan rin yata *** competition na sasalihan sana ng san beda kaso hindi natuloy... :rolleyes:

Baketsha di natuloy ang mga San Bedans?!?

[cute_guy16]

Sya, sya. Tama na yang madz et. al. at nakakasuya na. On to other issues.

Mga mare't pare! May ibabalita ako. Alam nyo ba ang De La Salle Voices, official choir ng De La Salle Lipa, ay nag-wagi ng 4th place sa compulsory piece category at best interpretation of a free piece (Tinig ng Lupa) out of a field of 15 countries sa Harmonie Choral Competition sa Germany. Every 6 years daw ito ginaganap. Totoo ba itich mga choir experts dine?

What's interesting here is that there were 2 other Filipino choirs who joined the contest, including the rising (and still rising) Imusicapella, na malayo daw ang placing.

Congrats sa Voices at sa conductor na si Mr. Joven Valeras na dating assistant conductor ng UST Singers at conductor ng Kammerchor Manila. Mabuhay ang USTE, este, Voices pala! eh-hi-hi-hi-hi! :D

Hi. I researched about that competition and i found out that Imusicapella won the 1st prize in the Mixed Chamber Vocal Group Category sa HARMONIE CHORAL COMPETITION in Germany. Ito yata ang category for a small choir. At tama nanalo nga ang Dela Salle Lipa ng Best Interpretation of a free piece at yun nga siguro ang Tinig ng Lupa.

[sleeplacker]

Hi PEXers!

If you're free next Saturday, June 18, at 5 p.m., please watch "OPA!", our Send-Off Concert and CD Launch. It will be at Philamlife Auditorium (U.N. Avenue, Manila).

* Thanks to our choirmaster Arwin Tan who is always pushing us to do more and do better, we'll be joining an international competition for the first time: the 23rd International Choral Festival of Preveza, in Greece, from July 7-10. We'll be joining 3 categories: Mixed Choirs, Mixed Chamber Choirs, and Mixed Youth Choirs.

* During the concert, we'll also be launching our first CD, recorded live at our school's Li Seng Giap Auditorium. :)

Tickets are at PhP300 (sorry, we still lack funds for our trip), but if you attend the concert, you can get the ticket and CD bundled together for PhP500 only. :)

I hope some of you can make it! For more information, contact 0917-8334564 or uapchorale@gmail.com. Or, just reply to this thread. Thanks!


---> Marie
(from: University of Asia and the Pacific Chorale)

[sablay_talaga]

Hi guys, sinong nakapanuod ng choir ni ALFRED last Monday June 13, 2005 sa Philamlife?

Hay grabe the 2nog ha its so nakakatakot, sobrang mabigat sa dibdib ang kanilang mga forte. Sana naman magkaroon kayo ng SOFT noh na mga kanta. kase baka atakihin ang mga nanunuod sa inyo.

Anyways, gud lak s inyong pag-alis at naway makapag-uwi kayo ng tagumpay........GOD BLESS

[sleeplacker]

Hi again :) Here are some songs we'll be singing for our Send-Off Concert/CD Launch on June 18, 5 p.m. at Philamlife Auditorium, just FYI:

Frohlocket ihr Völker auf Erden (Mendelssohn)
Sicut Cervus (Palestrina)
Locus Iste (Bruckner)
Daemon Irraepit Calidus (Gyorgy Orban)
O Magnum Mysterium (Javier Busto)
Abendlied (Josef Rheinberger)
Gabaq-an (Ruben Federizon)
Bal-laygi (Arwin Tan)
Doña Ubensa
Put Vejini
The Blue Bird
Duerme Negrito
Vecchie letrose
Venikhi
Minsan Lang Kitang Iibigin
Bituing Walang Ningning


* Some songs are our contest pieces and some are from our CD. :)

I really hope some of you can make it. :)

---> Marie

"OPA!" The UA&P Chorale Send-Off / CD Launch Concert
June 18 (SAT), 5:00 p.m.
Philamlife Auditorium, U.N. Avenue, Manila

[sweet_soul14]

hi!
sali kayo ue chorale! we are offering SCHOLARSHIPS!!!
auditions every MWF 6pm MUSICHALL 5th floor dalupan bldg. (near CPA review center) UE Manila.

for more info, msg kayo sa friendster: ue_chorale@yahoo.com
or text 09195751371(judy) 09266204649(julius)09224932881(charme)

[ibongadarna1]

hi!
sali kayo ue chorale! we are offering SCHOLARSHIPS!!!
auditions every MWF 6pm MUSICHALL 5th floor dalupan bldg. (near CPA review center) UE Manila.

for more info, msg kayo sa friendster: ue_chorale@yahoo.com
or text 09195751371(judy) 09266204649(julius)09224932881(charme)

Ay!!!!!!!!! Sige, sige sali kami ng kumare ko. Mareng angbahomo, dali!!!!! May audition sa UE, sali tayo. Aba, kaya namin ng kumare ko ang "do to do". Hanggang kelan ang audition?

[ibongadarna1]

Hi guys, sinong nakapanuod ng choir ni ALFRED last Monday June 13, 2005 sa Philamlife?

Hay grabe the 2nog ha its so nakakatakot, sobrang mabigat sa dibdib ang kanilang mga forte. Sana naman magkaroon kayo ng SOFT noh na mga kanta. kase baka atakihin ang mga nanunuod sa inyo.

Anyways, gud lak s inyong pag-alis at naway makapag-uwi kayo ng tagumpay........GOD BLESS

Hoy sablay_talaga, intriga yan ha! Bakit ka nagbabanggit ng pangalan. Pwede ba, anong apelyedo, hehehehehe.

[choir_director]

To sablay_talaga and ibongadarna!

With all due respect to both of you, although we are free to express our opinions and thoughts in this thread, mentioning of names I think is quite unfair already. I don't intend to offend you both pero sana with reservation naman ng konti. Peace, Peace, Peace!!!! :) :) :)

[peterpipe]

goodluck to all the philippine choirs na magcocompete abroad!

Gorizia italy
Spittal Austria

and 4 Philippine Choirs sa Torrevieja, Spain. 4 na choirs na yan. ewan ko lang kung di pa sila magwagi. kilala nyo na sila??

Abangan natin ang magandang labanan. *okay*

[whirlingwhirlin]

Hi again :) Here are some songs we'll be singing for our Send-Off Concert/CD Launch on June 18, 5 p.m. at Philamlife Auditorium, just FYI:

Frohlocket ihr Völker auf Erden (Mendelssohn)
Sicut Cervus (Palestrina)
Locus Iste (Bruckner)
Daemon Irraepit Calidus (Gyorgy Orban)
O Magnum Mysterium (Javier Busto)
Abendlied (Josef Rheinberger)
Gabaq-an (Ruben Federizon)
Bal-laygi (Arwin Tan)
Doña Ubensa
Put Vejini
The Blue Bird
Duerme Negrito
Vecchie letrose
Venikhi
Minsan Lang Kitang Iibigin
Bituing Walang Ningning


* Some songs are our contest pieces and some are from our CD. :)

I really hope some of you can make it. :)

---> Marie

"OPA!" The UA&P Chorale Send-Off / CD Launch Concert
June 18 (SAT), 5:00 p.m.
Philamlife Auditorium, U.N. Avenue, Manila




The Blue Bird?? hehehe.... la lang.... ;)

[mas_sweet]

Baketsha di natuloy ang mga San Bedans?!?

I heard nagka problem sila sa visa...late na ata lumabas tapos *** ibang members di pa nabigyan so they waited ulet kasi nag re-apply sila. Nung lumabas ata ang visa ng lahat ng members e late na sila sa mga contests.

But i read they are already in Europe now. I saw an article about them that they are being organized by the Philippine Embassy in Scandanavian Countries. Ininvite din ata sila sa Taiwan Festival sa July! Taray!

Well, goodluck mga 'pre! Ipagpatuloy ang pagtaguyod ng male choral music! Go Sir Robert Delgado!!! Mabuhay ka!

[civilized123]

I heard nagka problem sila sa visa...late na ata lumabas tapos *** ibang members di pa nabigyan so they waited ulet kasi nag re-apply sila. Nung lumabas ata ang visa ng lahat ng members e late na sila sa mga contests.

sayang talaga. i heard kasali sana sila sa HARMONIE FESTIVAL and MARKTOBERDORF Competition sa Germany pero di na nga sila tumuloy because of the visa problem. May members din sa UPSA ang di nabigyan. Meron din sa Manila Vocal ensemble. Matindi ang IMUSICAPELLA, out of 18 singers, 10 people ang di nabigyan ng visa. tumuloy pa rin sila at nagcompete with 8 singers. They still won the First Prize sa MIXED CHAMBER CHoir Vocal Group Category sa HARMONIE. Unbelievable.

[whirlingwhirlin]

I heard nagka problem sila sa visa...late na ata lumabas tapos *** ibang members di pa nabigyan so they waited ulet kasi nag re-apply sila. Nung lumabas ata ang visa ng lahat ng members e late na sila sa mga contests.

But i read they are already in Europe now. I saw an article about them that they are being organized by the Philippine Embassy in Scandanavian Countries. Ininvite din ata sila sa Taiwan Festival sa July! Taray!

Well, goodluck mga 'pre! Ipagpatuloy ang pagtaguyod ng male choral music! Go Sir Robert Delgado!!! Mabuhay ka!


onga.... nagkaroon sila ng problem sa visa

[sleeplacker]

Hi! We will be having a Farewell Mass for the UA&P Chorale on:


June 29 (This Wednesday)
6:00 p.m.
at the Stella Orientis Oratory
University of Asia and the Pacific
Pearl Drive, Ortigas Center, Pasig City
(Parking and chapel entrance are along St. J. Escriva Drive, formerly Amber Drive, the street of Astoria Plaza)


Aside from singing during the mass, we will also be singing 12 of our competition pieces (sacred music only, though!) after the mass -- a mini-concert of sorts.

You won't have to pay anything, it's completely FREE. :)

We'll just have donation envelopes available, as well as our CDs for sale. :D (Yes, we still lack money for our trip...) By the way, we are leaving on July 4, next Monday already!

* We estimate that the singing will be finished before 7:30 p.m.. I hope some of you can make it, even if just for the singing after the mass. :)

We need your prayers :bashful:

---> Marie
(You can e-mail any inquiries to mpuyat@uap.edu.ph or uapchorale@gmail.com)

[alanangmaisip]

sayang talaga. i heard kasali sana sila sa HARMONIE FESTIVAL and MARKTOBERDORF Competition sa Germany pero di na nga sila tumuloy because of the visa problem. May members din sa UPSA ang di nabigyan. Meron din sa Manila Vocal ensemble. Matindi ang IMUSICAPELLA, out of 18 singers, 10 people ang di nabigyan ng visa. tumuloy pa rin sila at nagcompete with 8 singers. They still won the First Prize sa MIXED CHAMBER CHoir Vocal Group Category sa HARMONIE. Unbelievable.

Hmmm. Iba ang narinig ko sa isang VERY RELIABLE SOURCE ko. Sabi nya, flopsina daw ang Imusicapella sa MAIN CATEGORY. As in, wala man lang place sa silver group. Kasi daw ang ranking dun, gold certificate, silver certificate, etc., tapos, bawat certificate ata may rank pa. So for example, pwede kang makakuha ng gold certificate 2nd place.

Tama ba 'ko? Paki-reply mga matatalinong choir enthusiasts dyan.

[peterpipe]

to alanangmaisip, its confirmed. first prize po ang imusicapella sa one of the main categories - mixed chamber choir vocal group category. congratulations to them. baka sinisiraan lang sila.

goodluck to UPSA in Gorizia and the Immaculate Conception sa Spittal. I heard San Beda is competing in Taiwan? goodluck to all filipino Choirs abroad.

[tuningfork]

Am inviting everyone to watch ACCLAMATION II on July 9 and 10, 8:00 in the evening at the CCP Main Theater. Tickets at 800, 500, 400, 300, 200. Contact me at 0917-8361875. See you.

[QRST]

goodluck to all the philippine choirs na magcocompete abroad!

Gorizia italy
Spittal Austria

and 4 Philippine Choirs sa Torrevieja, Spain. 4 na choirs na yan. ewan ko lang kung di pa sila magwagi. kilala nyo na sila??

Abangan natin ang magandang labanan. *okay*

Sino po ang mga sasabak sa Torrevieja?

[CHELow]

Im sorry to bring this up again but pls try not to say that what we do is kalokohan coz were just trying to uphold the dream of our NATIONAL ARTIST. Also try to be sensitive to those who did put up the series coz they worked hard for it.I see your point, but please try to also remember that the show was NOT ONLY put up for you. It was also put up for the families and friends of the choristers. Thats why when these choristers ask you to come for free, they ask you: huy...suportahan niyo naman kami. It means that they finally found a venue for them to SHOW their talent and for you to help them by giving suggestions. These people worked hard for the etal and they deserve the proper respect for their hard work.... Your duty to your friends is for you to help out. Thats actually why a schedule was posted for you to know which choir is singing.One would be stupid to watch for support and eventually would not support at all. I think your msgs should be sent to the conductors and not the madz et al coz all were trying to do is to encourage and put up a venue for them. We never encouraged them to sing bad. We just try to encourage their hearts. It was their decision to join. If you came to watch one choir and got disappointed with the others then just comment on the others for their improvement. Lets pull each other up. This should also serve as a lesson to all the other conductors out there including me, that we should shape up and decide wisely. I think joining festivals and competitions need a lot of thinking before acting. Remember that when we sing we communicate and represent a name.Lets try to be productive and leave all our bad filipino habits behind like bahala na or crab mentality. The madz et al never promised a good show...it only promised a display of talent. Please know the difference. It maybe good talent and it maybe bad talent.NO TALENT??? in dont think so...pls dont over react on things. The madz and the madz et at never thought of a kalokohan concert for the public...we just try to do our best in the line of good fatih.

[CHELow]

Madz: Philippine Madrigal Singers

et al: and the others...it does mean the cream of the crop.

festival: an occasion devoted to festive community observances often held annually to celebrate the anniversary of a notable person or event or the harvest of an important product.

I think the madz et al falls under " event or the harvest of an important product. Important because every group was MOVED to work hard. It doesnt matter if the outcome was bad or good... but of course everybody should aim to produce the best. Im sure everybody in the madz et al tried...including the people behind it who are dear friends of mine who never thought of putting up a kalokohan festival....Again, the schedule was posted for you to choose.Thats what i did. so try not to yak without acting upon your yaking. If you wanna help....help....Ang ganda nga nitong pex eh kasi its open to everybody. I also dont think the madz et al wants to do a class legislation on a rule that would prevent people who might not have the chance to perform on stage due to their in ability to devote more time to their craft due to the hardship of life here in our country. Lets try to help each other...hell... if i had an all female choir with an age and vibrato range of 50 to 60....id let them sing there just to let them experience the stage at least before they get all weak. These concerts also make them want to strive....

[CHELow]

With regard to the payment of tickets....thats another form of support....if you dont think the scheduled choir on that day isnt worth watching, or if wala kang pera to support the night then dont buy the ticket for that night ok...i would only think of the series as unfair if the schedules werent posted. I would watch and sing with the madz et al even for the purpose of seeing people get together united without regard for race,status or creed. Thats something that no other sound on earth could ever replace specially in a world of diversities and political rivalries.Support if you want to support.Watch, if you want to watch. If your a conductor then you should understand the fact that concertizing mobilizes people and encourages them to work....just the fact that they have something to look forward to makes them try to do their best....including the conductors.But, conductors, pls think before acting....lets not hastily decide on the fate of the singers if were not so sure...

[CHELow]

as for the conductors that are bein refered here.....the madz et al is a venue for the realization the peoples dreams...if that lowly ex or present madz member conductor dreams to be a conductor then he has all the right to try to realize that dream....thats where your help should come in....the act of drawing the line of whether whos a real conductor or of who has the talent to be one is the conductors guild if there is such...i believe theres one in up...and not the madz et al. UNITY is the operative term here...MUSIC is an international language and nobody should stop that. Its also the thing that moves the madz and the madz et al. And dont worry, if a lowly conductor really doesnt have the talent to be a conductor...itll come to him or her...what they dont wanna miss is just the CHANCE...to be one. If lowly conductors gets chosen to be a conductor somewhere instead of someone else then that lowly conductor probably has something that the other guy dosent. so...let them realize their dream and realize facts by themselves.
peace....i wrote this all in the line of goodfaith and good will.

[CHELow]

Oh, by the way, i just want to complete my thoughts.....ok....it is unfair for the choristers if they get a conductor that doesnt have the talent to teach.Its true and your right about that but no one could ever know his talent until tried and tested through time. Sometimes, even conducting majors doesnt have that talent. I mean, why do we have i.t. managers who dint graduate from an i.t. school? Or why do we have successful chefs who dint take up...damn...i forgot the term but im sure you get what i mean.If coz they have something that others dont. Of course, credetials are important but with the growth of the choral community, sometimes even non-music teachers would be asked to teach a provicial public school choir and participate in festivals in manila for the honor and representation of their province. Thats patriotism...and thats just sublime. So, just sit back, relax and support.Its for the choristers and the managers of the choir to find out if the conductor is cut out for the job and not us. We can only help them. The heart for growth and improvement should never be trampled upon. My God, these are simple and aspiring choirs and conductors...why diss them. I would understand if your dissing major choirs but then again, the madz et al is NOT the madz. Let them realize things by themselves.

[CHELow]

Oh, by the way, i just want to complete my thoughts.....ok....it is unfair for the choristers if they get a conductor that doesnt have the talent to teach.Its true and your right about that but no one could ever know his talent until tried and tested through time. Sometimes, even conducting majors doesnt have that talent. I mean, why do we have i.t. managers who dint graduate from an i.t. school? Or why do we have successful chefs who dint take up...damn...i forgot the term but im sure you get what i mean.If coz they have something that others dont. Of course, credetials are important but with the growth of the choral community, sometimes even non-music teachers would be asked to teach a provicial public school choir and participate in festivals in manila for the honor and representation of their province. Thats patriotism...and thats just sublime. So, just sit back, relax and support.Its for the choristers and the managers of the choir to find out if the conductor is cut out for the job and not us. We can only help them. The heart for growth and improvement should never be trampled upon. My God, these are simple and aspiring choirs and conductors...why diss them. I would understand if your dissing major choirs but then again, the madz et al is NOT the madz. Let them realize things by themselves.You can also support by supporting workshops of the madz lead by our national artist and mark, of u.p. by the dean and of ailm by sir jojo. These are the only bodies that i know of that actively tries to correct and educate the mistakes of others.But for now and for those who these wizards cannot reach due to their bz scheds...lets just try to support them

[solbabydad]

*okay* and AMEN!

[JohnnyBBad]

O Crux - Karl Nysted
Esto les digo
Sanctus - Jerry Dadap, Jr.
Ah, dolente partita - Claudio Monteverdi
Hard By a Crystal Fountain - Thomas Morely
El Manisero - arr. Tania Leon
La Muerte del Angel - Lilliana Cangiano
All We Leave Behind
Light of a Million Mornings - arr. Arnold Zamora
I Will Sing Forever - arr. Chris Borela
Lupa - arr. Noel Velasco
Inang Mahal - arr. Ed Nepomuceno
Dayo-Dayo Kupita - arr. Nilo Alcala (premiere performance)
Ay Kalisud - arr. Annie Nepomuceno
Ating Cu Pung Singsing - arr. Annie Nepomuceno
Tarimbaba - arr. John Pamintuan
Bituing Walang Ningning - arr. Robert Delgado
Hanggang Langit - Joel Navarro


Tickets available at popular prices.

P.S. So far, I heard of 3 Filipino groups competing in Torrevieja: UPSA, CIC Choir, and Saring Himig (technically not a Filipino choir because they're based in the States).

[CHELow]

Hello Alanangmaisip! Tama ang mga tanong mo, malamang ay pinaghahatian nila yan at pinagkakwartahan and I'm shure itong whirlingwhirlin ang may pinakamalaking share dahil sobra daw itong lalakero.

Sa sobrang defensive nito eh sigurado akong yong choir niya ang pinaka pangit kumanta noon.



ibongadarna....Please, If you're not so sure, just dont say anything at all. You're the one who should be questioned here coz you watched even though you dont know what the madz et is all about. A friend of mine asked me to let your comments go coz you might be comin from an uninformed group but Im really sorry...I cant. Its ok for me if you just diss the choirs but if you try to diss the things that we stand for...thats below the belt. Who are you anyway for you to comment like this? you dont know what goes on with the madz et al coz your not part of the family. Whats your name and the name of your choir? What and who gave you the right to speak like this? Dont you know the difference between an opinion and an accusation? Be careful of with your definitions because there are a lot of intelligent people reading this thread.Show yourself...again...whats your name and the name of your choir? lets see if you're worth your comments...In fact, i dont care who you are coz ur outta line boy!!! but for all readers....lets see ur worth...come out in the open. Im reacting like this coz when i wrote my opinion, i dint have time to read all your nonesense...Nonsense because....you watched the et al without understanding and knowing what it is...bring it on!

[CHELow]

Im not part of the people behind the madz et al but ive seen how hard it was for them to put this up....and Yes, Im part of the madz and the madz et al.

[CHELow]

im sorry if i had some lapses in my construction....i was just so pissed that my mind was runnin faster than my fingers.peace...im normal now. :) :) :)
MABUHAY AND FILIPINO CHOIRS!

[CHELow]

hahahaha....MABUHAY "ANG" FILIPINO CHOIRS!!!

[tuningfork]

Immaculate Conception Choir based in Cabanatuan City and conducted by Alfred Samonte, former madz, won 2nd place in the folksong category in Spittal with a score of 91. Choir from Riga, Lithaunia (gran prix winner in2004) won 1st and choir from USA won third. Let's pray for them as they compete in the polyphony category tom.

Mabuhay talaga ang Philippine Choirs!

[ibongadarna1]

ibongadarna....Please, If you're not so sure, just dont say anything at all. You're the one who should be questioned here coz you watched even though you dont know what the madz et is all about. A friend of mine asked me to let your comments go coz you might be comin from an uninformed group but Im really sorry...I cant. Its ok for me if you just diss the choirs but if you try to diss the things that we stand for...thats below the belt. Who are you anyway for you to comment like this? you dont know what goes on with the madz et al coz your not part of the family. Whats your name and the name of your choir? What and who gave you the right to speak like this? Dont you know the difference between an opinion and an accusation? Be careful of with your definitions because there are a lot of intelligent people reading this thread.Show yourself...again...whats your name and the name of your choir? lets see if you're worth your comments...In fact, i dont care who you are coz ur outta line boy!!! but for all readers....lets see ur worth...come out in the open. Im reacting like this coz when i wrote my opinion, i dint have time to read all your nonesense...Nonsense because....you watched the et al without understanding and knowing what it is...bring it on!

Hoy mother, magtigil ka at wala akong kiber sa mga patutsada mong pamaritr effect. Basta galinaga mo next time sa et al at nang di ka mapasama sa mga inu-okray! If I'm not mistaken I think kulang ka himas. O sya sige, kita tayo at ng mapatirik ko ang mata mo. Sa pangalan mo lang na Chelow eh I'm sure choir mo yong pinaka - "low" sa et al. Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!! :bop: