Philosophy in Ateneo

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we whine about our deadly philosophy subjects, but i think deep down we are proud of the fact that we are capable of digesting all those truths and what-have-you. i mean, when i talk to people from other schools, i can't help but mention our philosophy subjects and how they're molding us to the ateneans that we are and have always been -- intelligent, perceptive, and articulate. of course, i have to say that i learned a lot from all 4 philosophy subjects, and feel proud that I was able to rise up to the challenges I faced...with the voluminous readings of Fr. David (heavens! 200 pages a week of Plato!) and his 15-page papers, and with the IQMCN and summun omnium of Lore Aguilar in Tagalog (ang pinakahigit sa lahat..etc, etc.).. SO, how do you like Philosophy in Ateneo?

[Ice Burn]

I really love it and I learned a lot!
College means nothing without Philo!
I'm sure every Atenean agrees! :D

[rors]

i have to agree with iceburn. college is nothing without philosophy! i definitely learned a lot from it. :D

[angelicDAW]

i'm really proud that i went through philosohpy in ateneo. other schools boast about their majors and concentration. they claim that they end up being successful in the corporate world, etc etc. but we know that success is not measured by the money you make, and the meaning of life transcends mere physical living. and yes, we live a more conscious life. makes me wonder though: has everything we learned molded us into the proud elitists we are known to be? in any case, philo has broken my limited vision of the world. even if i cant actually remember which philosopher said what, the insights have stuck in my mind. i think it has created some sort of chain reaction. now that i'm out of school, i actually feel intellectually-starved!

[hudyat]

I remember how before, I used to really fear Philo and it's final orals. Yet, after all is said and done, I can say that I truly profited from Philosophy as a person. Never mind that I just had ok grades, I realized its the ability to think of the world in a more clearer way is the objective of Philosophy.

[yuga]

Subalit huwag nating kalilimutan ang pinakamahalagang birtud na ating natutunan sa Pilosopiya: mas mahalaga ay yaong di pa nalalaman.

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[FarOutFreak]

It's the only thing that keeps me sane, and it's the only thing I look forward to.

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[nowl]

geez louise... am i the only one who hates Philo http://www.pinoyexchange.com/lol.gif?

[tRiStAn]

And what is to be human? Is it not to be for the other?

[clawed_out]

ateneo's philo ?

the best!! - kasi sa ateneo nagphilo ang prof. ko!

[CaRaMBa]

I love Philo. Used to whine a lot because of it, but well, now that I look back, I am SO grateful that we had it. "Kapag nasabi na ang lahat ng masasabi, ang pinakamahalaga ay di pa rin nasasabi." :)

[blue babe]

http://www.pinoyexchange.com/lol.gif buttons: pareho tayo. i have fr. david THIS SEM. imagine, pati law school... :D but its cool. i'm supposed to be reading 300 pages of a book by some guy named Foucault. its cool, but man.. its heavy.

but i generally love philo. it makes me think a lot. :D

and you're right, we do b*tch about it a lot, but deep down, we know we're proud of it. i know i am. :D i have an extra 6 units of law school philo to tuck under my belt after the college units i already took. :D http://www.pinoyexchange.com/smokin.gif

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[natalie_sod]

okay ang philo. i'd love it more if it didn't
have orals......pamatay eh. scary pag orals.
lalo na pag si ferriols ang teacher mo.
hehe.

it's better in Filipino. mas nalalaman natin
kung gaano kayaman ang ating wika. :)

[rors]

salamat naman at maraming nagmemeron dito. :D

[rors]

equal mention also to theology of liberation which like philosophy is likewise touching my mind and spirit until now (to quote brownpau :)).

[brownpau]

Philo in AdMU left me with a lot of lasting reflections which still touch my mind and spirit today in the workplace. I'm really glad we were required to take so much of it.

[hudyat]

I think therefore I am

[Noesis]

Kala ko nun ang philo sa ateneo e magsisimula sa metaphysics; tsk, tsk, hindi pala (he he). Yun tuloy medyo naguluhan ako kasi maraming mga "claims" na binabanggit sa philo eh wala namang proof kundi basta self-evident daw sila. Minsan naman may mga over-generalizations. Tsk tsk. http://www.pinoyexchange.com/angel.gif Pero ok na rin siguro, yung mga sumunod na philo subjects.

[blue babe]

noesis: baka olats lang yun teacher na nakuha mo. ;)

[Noesis]

http://www.pinoyexchange.com/angel.gifmedyo ok naman siya blue babe http://www.pinoyexchange.com/angel.gif

[agila]

natutuwa naman ako at nakita ninyong biyaya ang pilosopiya sa ateneo. napakalaki ang nadulot nito sa pagkatao ko. at sa lahat ng atenista, ika nga ni fr. ferriols, ang pilosopiya ay ginagawa kaya sana buhay pa din ito sa inyo kung nasaan man kayo...at kung may mga pagsubok...pag-asa! sa Kanyang kinahuhulugan ng lahat...ang Meron na meron

[blue babe]

noesis:
actually, you're right. at least about the cop out explanations part. i loved all my philo classes. but sometimes, feeling ko rin, yung explanations that they offer are often cop out. upto now, i still am not satisfied with the explanation of how descartes' dream doubt was destroyed. i know he himself said that his dream doubt couldn't be real, pero.. kulang eh...

[angst]

I am a senior right now and the 8 units that I already took were really worth it even if it means having to read a lot. Plus, I took my Philo in Tagalog. It definitely changed my outlook in life.

[rors]

is it true that 3 units per sem na lang ang philo ngayon? why so?

[schwing]

yup 3 units na lang, new curriculum na starting with our batch, batch 98.

bobing talaga ako sa tagalog, kaya di ako nag tagalog na philo. but okay naman teacher ko eh, english pa. :)

[kmunster]

Originally posted by rors:
is it true that 3 units per sem na lang ang philo ngayon? why so?

i think they cut down on the core subject units to give way to major subjects...they want the students to be more competitive in their respective fields. i think they also axed En26 and Th21

[mark_mark]

he... your stories sound so interesting. too bad i am not taking any philo subject as of the moment. i am looking forward to it.

[BlueOyl]

Originally posted by rors:
is it true that 3 units per sem na lang ang philo ngayon? why so?

From what I heard, decreasing the number of units will allow students more free time (less pressure), hence, more time to STUDY, which is more often the exception than not.

[Ramirez]

I'm not an Atenean, but I did major in Philosophy at San Beda. The philosophy program in Ateneo, although a tad bit phenomenological/existential, is pretty good. Philosophy should be emphasized in all universities. The essence of a real education is not whether it can land you a job upon graduation. The meaning of a genuine education lies in the way it elevates the humanity and intellectual curiosity in the student. Philosophy does that and more. Kudos to the Ateno philo program!

[ollagram_12]

sa unang tikim ko ng philo ngayong sem, masasabi kong nakabubuhay-tao.
lahat sana ng nagphilo sa ateneo, matandaan ang techne ng pagpapakatao. :D

[chito]

Originally posted by natalie_sod:
okay ang philo. i'd love it more if it didn't
have orals......pamatay eh. scary pag orals.
lalo na pag si ferriols ang teacher mo.
hehe.

it's better in Filipino. mas nalalaman natin
kung gaano kayaman ang ating wika. :)

-Hindi naman... Ok naman si Padre Ferriols, basta ba nag-aaral ka wala kang problema sa orals mo sa kanya!

[zimdude]

Up to now, I browse (but not read entirely) philo books and look for philo topics on the Net...

[!!!]

Something I said in another thread:

I'm a MIS graduate of Ateneo and mahirap talaga CS. The disccipline in learning CS is different...
Pero if you take all your subjects seriously, I find Philosophy the hardest, yet most fascinating and rewarding once you reap its "truths"

My CS, ME, and MIS subjects help me excel in my career right now (technical consultant) pero...

Theology and Philosophy made my life a success ... a fulfillement


The only regret (and please, i don't want to think about the phenomenolgy...whatever of regret) was that I was'nt able to take any of Fr. Ferriols class. My teachers were Oris, Fr. David, and some girl with glasses, curly hair, and soft voice. (97, philo 104 ata) ..sayang

**tip to all students***
Always try to get the teachers who are already "institutions" by themselves in college. You will feel strange and empty pag nagkwe-kwentuhan na kayo about your college days - and you can't relate how it feels to be a student of a great teacher...and how they manage to touch and change your lives forever.

Also, tama sabi ng isang guy that don't forget what theo of liberation can do to you ... its different when you're out here na.

Sobrang gamit lahat na napag aralan ko sa MIS in my career right now...SAD, database,etc ...

pero until now Philo pa rin pinag-uusapan pag nagsasama-sama kami ulit...it will really touch your life whether you like it or not..

[sting]

Originally posted by ollagram_12:
sa unang tikim ko ng philo ngayong sem, masasabi kong nakabubuhay-tao.
lahat sana ng nagphilo sa ateneo, matandaan ang techne ng pagpapakatao. :D

hey! u in ph115A? aristoteles 'to ah! etika, to be specific.

several scorpions of thought who stung me: kant. heidegger. marcel. ferriols...

admu philo rules.

[CheeZe]

i like philo but right now i come close to hating it because fr. david's my teacher! grabe, his 4 units of philo seems like 10 to me! grabe, we have to read a whole book in two weeks! but his lectures are sorta ok naman, its just he seems to be practicing his totalitarianism thing on his on his studes.

[cow_sing]

panalo ang philo in tagalog. kaso nga lang medyo nakakakamot ng ulo ang prof ko. nakakabaliw talaga si mr lagliva.

[albertt]

philo in ateneo????

THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!
naging teachers ko si david and garcia =)
learned a lot from them...