Best Engineering School in the Philippines

[frankie]

Which university has the best Engineering College in the Philippines?

[Swatch]

Hmmmmmm...this is just a recycled topic that was posted by Braveheart on his Best....School Series...pero siyempre..sagot ko pa rin is UP, then UST, then DLSU, then Mapua....

[Me]

frankie: go to:
http://www.pinoyexchange.com/Forum13/HTML/000131.html

to see the previous thread about this same topic

Peace.

[vinncho]

Well, the CHED designated as Centers of Excellence (COE) the following Engineering Courses in the De La Salle University Manila - College of Engineering namely:

1. Mechanical Engineering
2. Chemical Engineering
3. Electronics & Communication Engineering
4. Industrial Engineering

Moreover according to CHED, De La Salle's Mechanical Engineering and Chemical Engineering courses are the ONLY CHED-affirmed Centers of Excellence for these two respective Engineering courses.

So in my opinion De La Salle has the BEST College of Engineering in the Philippines.

[Swatch]

Vinncho,

Just want to correct something, DLSU only has three COEs, minus the Industrial Engineering which you mentioned. DLSU is only a Center of Development (1) or COD1 on this category. UP is the only COE with regards to Industrial Engineering. All in all, UP still has the edge since they have more COEs than DLSU.

[Me]

Vinncho:

Are you sure that DLSU's Industrial Engg. program already got CHED's COE citation? Last I heard, only the first three programs that you've mentioned got that elusive citation. But then again that was last year.

Anyway, if indeed the IE program is already a COE then La Salle can safely say that based on CHED's citation she is one of the best, if not the best, in the engineering programs that she offers. This also means that La Salle's Manufacturing and Civil Engg programs are the only ones that are yet to get the COE citation. But I think CHED is not classifying manufacturing engg evidenced by its absence in the previous COE-COD list from the commission. That leaves the Civil engg program to aim for that COE. It is rather a tall order considering that it already shares with UP's Civil Engg program the highest citation given to any other school - a Center of Development (Category 1). But then again if the Chemical and Mechanical Engg programs can do it why can't the Civil Engg give another sole COE for La Salle?

Peace.

[vinncho]

Swatch and Me,

I personally checked with CHED that De La Salle University Manila- College of Engineering's Industrial Engineering Program was given a CENTER OF EXCELLENCE distinction last November 1999.

[bLaCk]

DLSU and Mapua...

[yinyang]

My rankings are as follows:

1. DLSU-Manila
2. UP-Diliman
3. UST
4. Mapua

[Ira]

UP.

[snoc]

Well according to the statement that all in all UP has the most number of COEs well that may be a fact but the thing is that most of the COEs ng UP are also the COEs of La Salle and some courses with which UP got a COE are not even offered in La Salle.UP is not even a COD in Civil Engineering. In fact its only La Salle who got that citation.

[Timothy]

Yup, UP.

[The Punisher]

This is one topic Ateneans can't relate to.

[tigerrguy]

Oo nga kasi hindi kaya ng Ateneo mag-offer ng various Engineering courses. Mahirap kasi.

Pero AB kaya ng Ateneo.

[kessel]

DLSU-Manila has the distinction as the SOLE
Center of Excellence in Chemical Engineering and also in Mechanical Engineering among all Philippine universities as attested to by CHED.

DLSU-Manila and UP-Diliman were both conferred by CHED - Center of Excellence distinctions in Electronics & Communication Engineering and Industrial Engineering.

In terms of engineering labs and facilities having seem the facilities in UST, Don Bosco-Mandaluyong, UP-Diliman, Mapua and DLSU-Manila - DLSU-Manila has the best.

[tr|n|ty]

UP Diliman.

[lorenzo]

Well in the Philippines, high quality ENGINEERING is only offered in DLSU-Manila, UP-Diliman and Mapua.

I'd give the edge to DLSU-Manila due to its industry & CHED-acknowledged better & more modern engineering labs and facilities over UP-Diliman's which sad to say is not that up-to-date(probably due to UP's present government budget constraints).

[jontyboy]

DLSU-Manila has the best Engineering School in the country. The Bachelor courses it offers are:

1. Mechanical Engineering - only COE in the Philippines
2. Chemical Engineering - only COE in the Philippines
3. Electronics & Communication Engineering - COE
4. Industrial Engineering - COE
5. Civil Engineering - COD1
6. Manufacturing Engineering - only course being offered in the Philippines

Aside from the Bachelor courses, its also offers Masteral and PhD degrees in the various Engineering courses.

UP-Diliman is also good but its equipment are not up-to-date.

[blue fever]

U.P. Diliman! d facilities of dlsu are just one thing, it may be better than UP's but aside from that..... lahat na sa UP!

[ayeee]

oh well DLSU has the BEST College of Engineering in the Philippines.

and to think manufacturing engineering is only offered in 2 schools

they are
DLSU (fcourse)and
PLM

[tr|n|ty]

well, DLSU really has top notch facilities... but as blue fever had said..thats only part of it. UP has a lot of talent and faculty. And i have seen first hand what each eng'g person in UP has to go through. That's why it's an honor as it is to finish on time in UP eng'g.

[Timothy]

Like what the two posters here said, high-tech facilities is not equivalent to being the best. It's like saying that a futuristic-designed house is better than a house designed country-style. It doesn't make sense. There should also be brilliant faculty members and inspired, intelligent students. UP College of Engineering may not have the most high-tech facilities, but their students and faculty surpass the other schools mentioned here by at least a mile. And the board results speak for themselves--UP pa rin!

[Ira]

Here's a quote from a poster, Me, who is an engineer. He posted this is the thread with the same subject, which no one seems to have bothered reading, or maybe just chose to ignore. He got this from Manila Bulletin- Power Education Series ( Sept.19, Oct. 10, and Oct.24, 1999).

CHED sets standards in which certain courses offered by diff. schools are to be measured. It is like the ISO 9000 quality standards. A center of excellence (COE) rating means that a course is up to world-standard, a center of development (COD) means that its high standard but not quite COE yet.

1. UP = 10
COE - Geodetic, Metallurgical, Industrial, Electrical - 4
COD1- Chemical, Civil, Elec. & Comm., Mechanical, Mining - 5
COD2 - Computer - 1

2. DLSU =5
COE - Chemical, Elec.& Comm., Mechanical - 3
COD1 - Civil, Industrial - 2

3. UST
COE - Elec.& Comm. - 1
COD1 - Chemical, Electrical, Industrial - 3
COD2 - Civil, Mechanical - 2

4. Adamson
COD1 - Electrical, Industrial - 2
COD2 - Chemical, Civil, Computer, Elec. & Comm., Mechanical - 5

Snoc: Yes, UP is a COD1 for Civil Engg according to a list of COE and COD in Manila Bulletin - Power Education Series (Oct. 24, 1999). Anyway, one less COD1 won't affect UP's ranking above.

To answer the question forwarded by this topic, a ranking of engg schools has to be made. Being an engineer, I'm not inclined on making a ranking based on perception alone. I hope that you agree that one way of "fairly" ranking is by basing it on the no. of school's COEs and CODs. Its not the only way but at least, I believe that, it is FAIR. But by limiting the courses to be considered -to only those offered by one school - it could hardly be called fair. Don't get me wrong I'm not pro-UP nor anti-Mapua. In fact, I'm a Lasallian engineer and my father is a Mapua Alumnus. But you have to agree that no one comes close to UP in terms of diversity and no. of COEs and CODs. So to answer the topic's question, no doubt based on COEs and CODs, UP is the best.

Peace.

[fhunkeemonkee]

it seems that this lasallian engineer is resigned to the fact that UP is the best eng'g school.

peace!!!

[snoc]

WELL NOBODY CAN REALLY BE SURE IF HE REALLY IS A TRUE LA SALLIAN. JUST A THOUGHT. JUST A REMINDER UPDATE YOUR RECORDS..

[Timothy]

Anong connection ng pagiging taga LaSalle niya o hindi niya pagiging LaSalle sa sinabi niya? Does his alma mater make what he said less true? He based his comments on what he read and what he experienced as an engineer, dude. He even cited references. Or does a true LaSallian always say "DLSU THE BEST" kahit wala na sa lugar? Just wondering.

[tr|n|ty]

I have to agree with Timothy, what does not being a true la sallian have anything to do with saying that UP may well be the best eng'g school? it's just a fact that you have to admit..it doesn't mean that you are less of a person by admitting what seems to be the truth. Admitting that you are not the best makes you a better individual because not all can say that.

[dudutt]

DLSU-Manila.

Although UP-Diliman offers more Engineering courses than De La Salle, in the FIVE(5) engineering courses where DLSU & UP-Diliman compete HEAD-TO-HEAD, as per CHED - DLSU's courses are rated higher in three courses and tied in two courses.

Examples:
Mechanical Eng'g: DLSU-COE;UP-COD1
Chemical Eng'g : DLSU-COE;UP-COD1
Elect.& Comm. Eng'g: DLSU-COE; UP-COD1
Industrial Eng'g: DLSU: COE; UP-COE(tie)
Civil Eng'g : DLSU: COD1; UP-COD1(tie)

DLSU-Manila does NOT offer the other four(4) Eng'g courses mining, geodetic, metallurgical & electrical engineering where UP-Diliman has COEs. Nor does DLSU offer computer engineering since in DLSU - a separate College is devoted to Computer Studies & its sub-branches and is not under the engineering department.

DLSU-Manila though offers Manufacturing Eng'g (robotics specialization) which UP-Diliman does not offer & is still currently unrated by CHED since its a pioneering course in the Philippines.

I also give DLSU-Manila the edge in equipment/facilities and caliber of its engineering professors.

However I also have the highest regard for UP-Diliman's Engineering program also.

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[Maico]

UP.

[snoc]

DLSU-MANILA

[yUCK_Fou!]

Sa tingin ko DLSU-MANILA. Oo nga, lamang ang UP sa COE at COD nila pero yun yung mga courses na wala ang DLSU. Pero kung titignan nyo, ano ba ang in-demand na engg course ngayon? Di ba Mech, Chem at ECE? Dito maraming nag-aapply na students. Since na COE ng La Salle ang mga courses na to, La Salle ang d' best.

[jugger]

Top Philippine Engineering schools?

DLSU-Manila, UP-Diliman & Mapua.

Ateneo? ABSENT.

[garrygrey]

DLSU-Manila.

[archerguy]

DE LA SALLE UNIVERSITY - MANILA!!!

[Biancababe]

DLSU is the best in Engineering, as well as in other fields...Computer Studies, Business and Economics, etc. etc.

[_kwekwek]

UP-Diliman. You learn kasi not only within the four corners of the classroom but also from your experiences outside. You'll learn how to stand on your own... you'll learn to be tough... you'll grow more mature... you'll be more aware of societal issues... and the list goes on....

[tRiStAn]

Hands down, it's UP.

[medelyn]

DLSU-Manila is the best in the Philippines when it comes to Engineering. Aside from Bachelor degrees it also offers masteral and PhD degrees in Engineering.

It is to be noted that in the FIVE(5) Engineering courses where DLSU-Manila and UP-Diliman compete HEAD-ON, in NONE of these Five(5) Engineering courses does UP-Diliman OUT-RANK that of DLSU-Manila as per CHED.
Out of the Five(5) Engineering Courses, CHED gives De La Salle the edge over UP-Diliman in THREE(3) courses namely Mechanical, Chemical and Electronics & Communications Engineering.
In the other TWO(2) Eng'g courses namely Civil and Industrial Engineering, CHED ranks both of them equal. It is also a FACT that CHED ranks De La Salle's Chemical and Mechanical Engineering programs as the ONLY
Center of Excellence in the country.

DLSU-Manila is also No. 1 in the Philippines in Accounting, Business/Commerce, Computer Studies, LIACOM, Communication Arts and Mathematics/Sciences.

I would rank UP-Diliman as No. 2 and Mapua No. 3 in Engineering in the country.

[batang uliran]

We've predicated our conclusions a lot on the CHED rankings. But what do these rankings really mean? A good friend of mine who is a UP faculty in EE (a CHED COE) says the CHED people are bean counters who don't really know what they are measuring.

[snoc]

oh.. really.. well thats because he is from UP.

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[Timothy]

oh..really...well thats because you are from dlsu. (great grammar, by the way! i see what you mean by excellent school)

[Braveheart]

LMAO@Timothy!

[batang uliran]

I've known him for a long time and I trust his judgment. He gives a fair assessment of the state of engineering in UP - tops in EE and in the material sciences but terrible in Mechanical Eng. and average in Civil and Chemical. He has nothing but nice words to say about DLSU's Engineering School and says he thinks the competition will be good for both schools. He says DLSU's revenue stream is a definite advantage and that the money he thinks is being put to good use.

[Swatch]

I think La Salle is generally good in Engineering courses but that doesn't mean they dominate the arena. There are actually lots of factors to take into consideration before La Salle can be regarded the dominant icon in Engineering Education. They may be the best (although for me its still UP) in some areas, but on the other hand, they are not the frontrunnner in other areas. For example in Board Exam performance...seldom I see La Salle grads dominating different Engineering disciplines as in landslide ha!...a feat which were already done by UP, Mapua and UST in the past and still doing at present. La Salle is definetly good in design contests, they win some, lose some, but can we regard them as dominant? NO!. In some intercollegiate engineering quiz contests, sometimes they are not even seeded to win. They even didn't place in the top three. After all the analyses done by different sectors like CHED, It all boils into one conclusion...NOBODY is really the BEST!


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[topnotch97]

UC BERKELEY

Univeristy of California
Originally posted by frankie:
Which university has the best Engineering College in the Philippines?

[phomella]

DE LA SALLE UNIVERSITY!!!!

[makoto]

how about msu

[antonn]

Topnotch97:

UC Berkeley is NOT in the Philippines.

For me, the BEST Engineering College IN THE PHILIPPINES are the ff:

1. DLSU-Manila
2. UP-Diliman
3. Mapua

In the FIVE(5) Engineering Courses that DLSU-Manila and UP-Diliman compete HEAD-ON,
CHED ranks DLSU-Manila better in THREE(3) than UP-Diliman and TIED in the other TWO(2).
Whats even more remarkable is the fact that CHED ranks DLSU-Manila's Mechanical Emg'g and Chemical Eng'g programs as the ONLY CENTER OF EXCELLENCE(COE) in the country.

[uptowngirl]

I believe that an up to date engineering facility is a big factor for producing effective engineers. But inspite of UP's lack of facilities, it is able to produce quality engineers. Why? because UP does not let these problems hinder them. They may not have access to the latest equipment but they have the best ATTITUDE.

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[Timothy]

Not to mention the smartest, most driven students.

[uptowngirl]

Timothy, you said it! :D

[mad_0421]

hahaha....ANIMO LASALLE!!!
helloooo....syempre naman noh,mga courses sa lasalle ang pang WORLD CLASS...and of course,what'll be learning w/o the facilities....diba mga taga UP??? di naman pwede i-visualize lang ang learning lalo na sa engineering, kaya kailangan ng facilities..diba?diba?diba?

[Timothy]

Tama ka, mad_0421. Ang pinaka-importante sa paaralan ay ang facilities--di bale nang di sumasabay ang DLSU sa UP pagdating ng exams, di baleng di pa sila nakaka-sweep sa exams, di baleng talagang mas matatalino at driven ang mga estudyante at mga guro kumpara sa DLSU. Saludo ako sa iyong pananaw! Tama ang iyong basehan! Mabuhay ang DLSU! Walang alam na hirit kundi "facilities"!

[mad_0421]

timothy: hmmmmmmmmmm..................

[PUGSLEY]

SAINT LOUIS UNIVERSITY :)

[spookie]

UP DIL SANA KASI THEY ARE WELL ROUNDED AND VERY HARD WORKING. PERO, IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATION SKILLS THEY LAG BEHIND SCHOOLS LIKE ATENEO AND DLSU. AN AVERAGE STUDENT FROM ATENEO AND LA SALLE IS BETTER THAN AN AVERAGE STUDENT FROM UP. BUT THE ONES WHO ARE A CLASS OF THEIR OWN ARE DEFINITELY FROM UP.

[lorenzo]

The fact that DLSU-Manila and UP-Diliman are just about the ONLY PHILIPPINE universities that offer quality Engineering Education amid the vast sea of Engineering College Diploma Mills says A LOT about the philophy of these two universities - THEY ONLY STRIVE FOR THE BEST IN WHATEVER THEY DO.

Personally, I would give the EDGE to DE LA SALLE UNIVERSITY-MANILA over UP-DILIMAN. In fact even in the Engineering Courses they similarly offer, even CHED gives the superiority EDGE to DLSU-Manila.

However, UP-Diliman is very good also in Engineering. I cannot say the same about the other universities offering Engineering courses.

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[BlackUndies]

University of the Philippines - Diliman

[BlackUndies]

IF you took all the equipment away, and you were left to do everything manually, where would the LaSalle people be?

Tanong lang naman.

[Braveheart]

BlackUndies, uummm, Saint Benilde or Dasmariñas? ;)

[jvaniceto]

Braveheart,

DLSU-College of Saint Benilde does NOT offer Engineering courses SINCE it does NOT offer courses offered in DLSU-Manila.

[Swatch]

lorenzo,

How did you come up with a statement that only LA SALLE and UP-DILIMAN can offer HIGH Quality Engineering Education? Can you give me proofs????....C'mon...gimme.....I'm sure you're not an authority to say this. Are you just basing your facts on pure hearsay.???? hmmmm..malamang.....nakikianod sa agos...

As if..these two schools are the only portals of engineering school in the country....are u yourself an engineer or an engineering student?

If not, you don't have the right to say so. That's all!

[mamangbumbero]

I have one thing to say, Mapuans do not spend time with "who's the best school" discussions. We let the board examination statistics speak for us.
Sunday, 30 January 2000
PRC board exams and globalization http://www.mb.com.ph/oped/2000%2D01/oe013007.asp

If this doesn't prove anything, then you're just a bunch guys on crack who won't accept the truth.

stay cool.

Mamang Bumbero

[uptowngirl]

reviving this topic....

[MAX]

umm, i think your point. we're talking about what is the best engineerin sch. in the phils. just wanted to correct you. http://www.pinoyexchange.com/smokin.gif
and one more thing, well-rounded & very hard working ppl CANNOT only be found in UP. i believe a lot of ppl would attest to this fact. ;)
Originally posted by spookie:
UP DIL SANA KASI THEY ARE WELL ROUNDED AND VERY HARD WORKING. PERO, IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATION SKILLS THEY LAG BEHIND SCHOOLS LIKE ATENEO AND DLSU. AN AVERAGE STUDENT FROM ATENEO AND LA SALLE IS BETTER THAN AN AVERAGE STUDENT FROM UP. BUT THE ONES WHO ARE A CLASS OF THEIR OWN ARE DEFINITELY FROM UP.

[24/7]

UP-diliman!!!

[jugger]

Best Philippine Engineering schools:

1. DLSU-Manila
2. UP-Diliman
3. Mapua

[ewe]

Sa mga inhinyero, mahalaga ang RESULTA. Magandang gamiting basehan ng isang magaling na engineering school and performance ng kanilang engineers sa industriya. Sa trabaho kase namin di ka tatanungin kung ilang COEs mayroon ang school, kung anong grade mo sa board exam (some don't even bother to ask if you passed), kung gaano kaganda ang pilot plant ng school ninyo, o kung sumali ka sa battle of the brains. May isang insidente pa nga na ni-lait-lait ng manager ang "school" ng isa sa mga kasama kong engineer dahil di siya "maka-deliver." Nakakalungkot pero totoo.
Bottom line - there sould be homogeneity between the engineering school and its engineers. Kung anong "puno" s'yang "bunga". Ano ba ang mas nakikita ng maraming tao? diba ang "bunga?"
Peace and all good.

[kryptonian78]

DLSU-COE is one of the best.

[Light&Easy]

Best Engineering Schools in the Philippines:

1. DLSU
2. UP-Diliman Ha!
3. UST

Mapua DATI siguro? pero ngayon? doubt it! wala sila maski isang COE's! COD konti lang... DLSU has the most COE's of the 3 i mentioned above, UP second and UST has a COE in ECE, COD-1 in Chemical Engineering,Industrial Engineering,Electrical Engineering...COD-2 in Civil Engineering & Mechanical Engineering!....
Mapua naku paki improve ang facilities at building nyo ha!....sorry pero bulok compared to facilities and laboratories of DLSU,UP & UST!....

And if passing percentage ang paguusapan sa Board Exams in dif. fields of Engineering.... UP, DLSU & UST ang nangunguna and take note these 3-schools have divided among themselves ang mga top-notchers over the various engineering fields! and acc. to PRC UST has the most no. of passers in the 50-100 examinees, DLSU in the 25-50 examinees, at UP-Diliman sa 1-10or20 examinees!

So no doubt UP,DLSU & UST! are the best Engineering Schools in the Philippines!

Mapua.....hmmmmm paki renovate muna ang building n'yo ha nakakahiya!!!

[MEM]

Originally posted by _kwekwek:
UP-Diliman. You learn kasi not only within the four corners of the classroom but also from your experiences outside. You'll learn how to stand on your own... you'll learn to be tough... you'll grow more mature... you'll be more aware of societal issues... and the list goes on....

That's not true!

UP Engineering is 5 years (10 semesters w/ summers) with no practicum.
DLSU Engineering is 4 years and 1 term (12 trimesters w/ no summers) with one summer and one trimester of Practicum, Except in Manufacturing Eng'g and Management, having 3 trimesters (1year) of Industrial Training.

[peepingtom]

DLSU s defntly d best ENG schl der is! m nt frm ENG, bt i hav frnds der. super hi-tec ang facilities nla.

[MiLMarQ]

I say LA SALLE MANILA is the Best in Engineering courses. Because LA SALLE'S facilities are more high-tech. LA SALLE goes for experience and on-the-job training.

[naturallybeautiful]

well, believe it or not, it's RTU as in Rizal Technological College. Pero that is when we talk of Engineering la ha. Their equipment and facilities is way advanced comparing them to other schools and universities.

[xywiz]

Being a graduate of CalTech and a PhD from MIT, I find this thread a waste of time.

Schools can only help GOOD students BETTER!
Best schools can do nothing about BAD/AVERAGE STUDENTS.

[zonrox1]

Congrats to DLSU-Manila for topping again the recent Electronics & Communication Engineering Board Exams.

De La Salle-Engineering --->; No. 1 in the Philippines.

[bobot]

pati dito nagkaka-initan na din.
well, i dont know about u.p. since i've never studied there but i got to say that dlsu's engineering program is pretty good also.
but it all still boils down to the student. maganda nga facilities o kaya magaling faculty pero di naman interested yung student then it wont really make much of a difference.

[s_abella]

UP

[shark]

COE-DLSU
:)
our graduates are highly in demand......
mga company ang tumatawag sa yo di ikaw ang lumalapit.....sa quality ng education and sa performance sa work :)

UST and Mapua are also great schools to study in in terms of Technology based Engineering......In my experience di pa ako maka-encounter ng engineering graduates from UP sa mga Telecoms and IT companies(mostly from UST, Mapua and La Salle lang).

DLSU-COE-ECE
shark

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[rqgepilanno75]

DLSU-Manila has the best College of Engineering in the Philippines.

UP-Diliman and Mapua are very good too in Engineering.

[elaney]

i got the feeling that there are more DLSU - students in PEx than UP students, let's not get into a heated debate over citations and stuff...

u know what's important?
where are the ENGG graduates of UP and La Salle today? it's not the college that matters here but what goes on after that...
(remember that, college students!)

personally, i'll vouched for my university. UP Diliman. as i've said, it's what you do after college that matters the most, and UP has earned it's outstanding reputation not by winning major sports event or high tech facilities (although i admit, DLSU certainly has those two) but because most of its students are not as well-off as that of the others but still managed to excel in their chosen fields.

I have nothing against DLSU Engg (my sister is currently studying there!) but i have great respect for the graduates of UP Engg.

[fReAk]

ngaks isa na naman the best thread.. dont care... nasa sa tao naman yan e...

[banxxx]

MAPUA AND LA SALLE :D

[bobot]

i agree that its up to the student as to how well he can excel in his chosen field. what i just dont get is the perception that dlsu has a great engineering program just because it has high-tech facilities. it's more than just the hi-tech facilities(and they dont even let the students use majority of the machines there)that make its eng program good. magaling din faculty ng dlsu eng and school projects are nothing to sneeze at. add to that the trimestral system which forces you to learn things at a faster rate and you'll see that the facilities is just a part of what makes dlsu's eng program good.

[Maverick]

Mapua Institute of Technology

[Light&Easy]

Mapua! bago kayo magambisyong maging best! eh paki renovate ang buong building nyo at sobrang kahiyahiya! and just for the record you cant claim to be one of the best when you have no proof at present that your indeed one! Mapua Wala kayong CoE's sa kahit saang field! na offered sa schools like UP,DLSU & UST!!!

Only Three schools today can claim to be the BEST! and that it DLSU,UP-Diliman & UST! on the basis of their CoE's and CoD's as recognized by CHED! and Passing Percentage by PRC! as baka isipin nyo na dahil you hit some top places in the board eh best na kayo!?? MAGISING KAYO!

Facilities....Mapua yours is obsolete and quite old needs to be improved!
Laboratories....you damn need the help of an expert!in improving these things!
Quality.... Your drifting away from the major league!...as reflected in different board exams results!!!!....

Your school charges quite high in tuitions but your students dont quite get the facilities that they deserve to have!.. for the record your fee is the third highest next to DLSU&UST! but when it comes to improvements of facilities and laboratories your logging behind the big three!!!

The Quality of Prof. are also quite behind in your dear Mapua! DLSU<;UP&UST! have many masteral and doctoral degree holders while yours are only bachelor degree holder now how can you have quality when your prof. is'nt quality at all!!

Paki renovate ang building nyo! ang panghi! ang sikip! ang dilim! parang pagpumadyak ka eh tutumba na!!!...pls.! lang NAKAKAHIYA!

Mapua....hmmmmm.saka na magambisyon pag na renovate at na uplift na ang facilities nyo!...

Napaka ambisyoso....!!!!

See the light will YOU!tigilan ang Pagiilusyon!




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[vinncho]

I rate the ff. as the Top Engineering Schools in the Philippines:

1. De La Salle University Manila
2. UP-Diliman
3. Mapua
4. UST

[roosevelt69]

Originally posted by frankie:
Which university has the best Engineering College in the Philippines?

Sa Telecommunication and Computer industry marami akong na meet na graduate ng mapua, ust and lasalle pero majority from mapua. lahat sila magagaling pero mas marami lang sigurong graduate na eng. ang mapua kahit na hindi kasing ganda ng ust or lasalle ang facilities nila, hindi naman kasi titingnan yung school mo importante may lisensya...sa UP siguradong mahuhusay ang mga estudyante dahil mahirap pumasok ng College of engineering ng UP pero mukhang konti lang ang graduates nila at yung iba siguro sa ibang field napapadpad pag graduate...

[Maverick]

Light&Easy: hmmm... such a violent reaction (filled with countless exclamation points). anyway, that's your opinion, and i respect it. but i suggest you go inside our alma mater now before commenting on its facilities, or try to find out why most of its graduates are doing well in their chosen fields before making degrading comments about the quality of education there.

stay cool. peace. :D

[This message has been edited by Maverick (edited 07-07-2000).]

[rax]

dlsu and mapua :D

[EpaL_KiNg]

[/b]MAPUA[/b] and LAsalle (masaya na kayo?)

[rao]

la salle? mapua?
hahaha!

[whoboatwhobad]

I have read all the posts on this thread and learned that most of the posters are metro manila based students.Only one post i've read from a promdi student (from MSU).I agree that these schools you are fighting for(maybe with your life :D )are schools having very huge financial capabilities aside from charging exhorbitant tution fees. Yes, they have the best facilities money can buy and the best professors they could pay, but are the courses they offered affordable to everyone?In my opinion, these great courses they offered with CHED's COE/COD certifications are only for the moneyed student,maybe except for UP which gives upportunity to ordinary students with extraordinary intelligence as scholars.
There are schools outside metro manila which also offers excellent engineering education like USC & USJR in Cebu, XU in CDO, MSU in Marawi & MSU-IIT in Iligan.USC,USJR & XU are private schools which also chaged high tution fees.MSU main & MSU-IIT are state universities that produces excellent graduates.Yet these grads finished school without spending lots of money by way of scholarship.These schools also have excelent facilites to talk about...IIT also has CHED's COD1 & COD2 certification to speak of....
Now, which school is the best...those schools for the elite or those schools for everybody?

[shey_anne]

syempre MAPUA...

[jugger]

De La Salle Manila, UP-Diliman and Mapua.

[nuss]

Try Don Bosco...

[Ramirez]

You guys are pathetic. Instead of bickering which engineering school is the best, consider this: which engineering school has done much for the betterment of the Philippines and not multinational corporations.

[mamords]

Originally posted by mad_0421:
hahaha....ANIMO LASALLE!!!
helloooo....syempre naman noh,mga courses sa lasalle ang pang WORLD CLASS...and of course,what'll be learning w/o the facilities....diba mga taga UP??? di naman pwede i-visualize lang ang learning lalo na sa engineering, kaya kailangan ng facilities..diba?diba?diba?


UP Engineering facilities are not bad. We use Cadence in designing microchips. We have Suns and a Silicon Graphics. We have a wafer probe and logic analyzers. Our Comm engg lab is into microwave. It has spectrum and network analyzers. Our Software applications lab is into databases (used outside the university). Our Instrumentation, Robotics, and Control lab is into medical instrumentation. Our DSP-Texas Instruments Elite lab is the only one in the whole country. We teach DSP to the faculty of other engg schools. Most of our labs are open
24 hours a day. So if a bright idea hits you, you can go straght to the lab (of course, you have to be affiliated with the lab first).

Our Yamatake lab won the mobile robot race in the microcontroller design contest.

im not impressed with the board exams but we are hitting a 100% passing rate (if you insist on measuring the worth of an engg school through the board exams. im not impressed with it because all you have to do is answer multiple choice questions-pathetic!)

Best of all (La Salle will never top this), we have the best talent pool. Most science high grads go to UP. And the UPCAT, with the competition, it's like passing through the eye of a needle...

So tell me, what does La Salle have?

[spydee]

Mapuans do not engage in these conversations we just let the BOARD EXAM RESULTS speak for itself!!We do LESS TALK and MORE WORK!!! http://www.pinoyexchange.com/bop.gif

[ALArchEr]

i am proud to say that iam a product of dlsu-coe electronics and communications department. and from what ive experienced from working in two companies, i can say that aside from products of my alma mater, graduates of up are also very good. dont know if i could say the same to graduates of mapua. hehehe

[ALArchEr]

BOARD EXAM??? DUH. in my company, my manager cannot refer to himself an engineer, cannot attach the word "Engr." before his name. why??? he flunked the board exam!!!! he is from mapua, ece batch of 84....check your facts first. please.

Originally posted by spydee:

Mapuans do not engage in these conversations we just let the BOARD EXAM RESULTS speak for itself!!We do LESS TALK and MORE WORK!!! http://www.pinoyexchange.com/bop.gif

[Rockgardener]

i'm not submitting this as proof or
anything...but there's a pinoy in
northern California who holds such
a high engineering position at his fortune
500 company..it makes me dizzy just
imagining the amount of money he makes....

pero napaka simple..he could easily afford
a benz..but he drives an entry-level car..

he dresses himself down..very very humble..
although extremely intelligent..

he's from Mapua.
the second most successful engineer I
know here's from UST...
he was worried at first that firms
wouldn't recognize his degree..and that
he'd have to go through all types of
certifications just to get a decent job..

i told him.."pare..just go in there with your
pencils and sketch pad..show them what
you can do..galing ust ka!..kayang kaya
mo yan!"..

he got the job that day.

It's who you are..and what you can do..

[roosevelt69]

wala sa school yan, ang importsnte may lisensya. maraming topnotcher sa up and lasalle pero pagdating sa trabaho pare-pareho lang ang ginagawa ng mga yan. sa papel lang ang pagiging topnotcher ng estudyante. magaling ang up at lasalle pero kaunti lang ang mga graduates nila ng engineering, kulang ang engineers ng pinas para maging industrialized country 'to.

[rao]

Originally posted by Rockgardener:
i'm not submitting this as proof or
anything...but there's a pinoy in
northern California who holds such
a high engineering position at his fortune
500 company..it makes me dizzy just
imagining the amount of money he makes....

pero napaka simple..he could easily afford
a benz..but he drives an entry-level car..

he dresses himself down..very very humble..
although extremely intelligent..

he's from Mapua.




You must be referring to Dr. Diosdado Banatao. Yeah, you're right, it should not be taken as a proof because Dr. Banatao himself admitted that what he got from Mapua was insufficient.

Entry level car? really? He boasted in the Inquirer that one of his toys is a business jet.

[jerky]

Originally posted by tigerrguy:
Oo nga kasi hindi kaya ng Ateneo mag-offer ng various Engineering courses. Mahirap kasi.

Pero AB kaya ng Ateneo.



Nice one. http://www.pinoyexchange.com/lol.gif

[brandies3]

As usual UST is ALSO No. 4 in Engineering - behind De La Salle, UP-Diliman and Mapua.

[MiSty]

don't know anything really about Engg...all i know is that TOUGH yung course na to..and i'll say, UP Diliman pa rin!!!

[speedo]

http://www.pinoyexchange.com/bop.gif http://www.pinoyexchange.com/bop.gif http://www.pinoyexchange.com/bop.gif DE LA SALLE UNIVERSITY (MANILA) http://www.pinoyexchange.com/bop.gif http://www.pinoyexchange.com/bop.gif http://www.pinoyexchange.com/bop.gif

http://www.pinoyexchange.com/bop.gif =facilities are hi-tech
:D =laboratories are well-equipped and each engineering course has its own lab.
:p =professors with masteral degree
http://www.pinoyexchange.com/angel.gif=state of the art classrooms with VCR, projectors and many more

http://www.pinoyexchange.com/crazy.gif need to ask for more information just visit www.dlsu.com.ph (http://www.dlsu.com.ph)

[speedo]

http://www.pinoyexchange.com/bop.gif http://www.pinoyexchange.com/bop.gif http://www.pinoyexchange.com/bop.gif DE LA SALLE UNIVERSITY (MANILA) http://www.pinoyexchange.com/bop.gif http://www.pinoyexchange.com/bop.gif http://www.pinoyexchange.com/bop.gif

http://www.pinoyexchange.com/bop.gif =facilities are hi-tech
:D =laboratories are well-equipped and each engineering course has its own lab.
:p =professors with masteral degree
http://www.pinoyexchange.com/angel.gif=state of the art classrooms with VCR, projectors and many more

http://www.pinoyexchange.com/crazy.gif need to ask for more information just visit www.dlsu.com.ph (http://www.dlsu.com.ph)

[kessel]

In my opinion the BEST College of Engineering in the Philippines is as follows:

1. De La Salle Manila
2. UP-Diliman
3. Mapua

[blue_bomb]

Originally posted by tigerrguy:
Oo nga kasi hindi kaya ng Ateneo mag-offer ng various Engineering courses. Mahirap kasi.

Pero AB kaya ng Ateneo.



FOR YOUR INFORMATION, WE ALSO HAVE ENGINEERING PROGRAMS
HONORS PROGRAM PA!!! BAKA SA INYO STANDARD LANG KAYA MARAMING KUMUKUHA.
AND BAKA YUNG AB COURSES NAMIN HINDI KA MATANGGAP 'COZ YOU DON'T
HAVE THE BRAINS!!! SHAME ON YOU!!!

[blue_bomb]

Originally posted by jerky:
Nice one. http://www.pinoyexchange.com/lol.gif

WHY IS IT THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SO INSECURE OF ATENEO.
MAYBE THEY DIDN'T PASS THE ACET

[big_bote]

UP ? http://www.pinoyexchange.com/wonder.gif

[This message has been edited by big_bote (edited 07-27-2000).]

[AMETHYST]

La Salle?
eskwelahan ba yan?
puro pera lang ang nasa isip nyan e.
kaya ang laging binabanggit nyan e puro high tech facilities, instruments and everthing.
Kung may pera ka, tiyak pasado ka dyan.
Entrance exam nyo nga ang dali e.
Have you ever been to other schools?
Talo nga kayo sa microcontroller-based design (MOBOT RACE), di ba?
Kumpleto na nga gamit nyo, talo pa rin kayo.
Anong ginawa ng high tech facilities nyo?
WALA!!
Spoonfeeding pa... tsk tsk.

[lilith]

I work in recruitment, and speaking from experience -- certain companies accept ONLY DLSU and Mapua graduates. DLSU particularly because of they are familiar with the latest equipment, which is used in teaching the students.

That's all. :)

[alcuazas]

Originally posted by blue_bomb:
Originally posted by tigerrguy:
Oo nga kasi hindi kaya ng Ateneo mag-offer ng various Engineering courses. Mahirap kasi.

Pero AB kaya ng Ateneo.



FOR YOUR INFORMATION, WE ALSO HAVE ENGINEERING PROGRAMS
HONORS PROGRAM PA!!! BAKA SA INYO STANDARD LANG KAYA MARAMING KUMUKUHA.
AND BAKA YUNG AB COURSES NAMIN HINDI KA MATANGGAP 'COZ YOU DON'T
HAVE THE BRAINS!!! SHAME ON YOU!!!

blue_bomb:

For your info, Ateneo's Management Engineering course is NOT recognized as a real engineering course since it does not include core engineering subjects common to all engineering courses as specified by the CHED.

So the Ateneo ME course is actually a MISNOMER. It is basically a management course with a lot of math subjects.

So please do not confuse Management Engineering as a real Engineering Course just because it carries the word "engineering".

Just an explanation.

BTW to me the best engineering schools in the Philippines are UP-Diliman, DLSU-Manila and Mapua in that order.

[keepthefaith]

Ust and dlsu both have excellent engineering programs, they have excellent facilities for their hands-on training but because of UP’s College of Engineering low quota/student selectivity they still get the best h.s. grads for their engineering programs. But this doesn’t mean that ust and dlsu engineering grads are not as good as up eng grads.

[AngryBird]

Ayos to a. Payabangan ng kung ano meron sa kung kanino.

Aba syempre da best ang pinanggalingan niyo!! Doon kayo nag-aral e. Sus!

Given this fact, ang masasabi ko lang ay worth mentioning ang GALING ng DLSU, UP, at Mapua. MAGALING lang. Kasi kung 'best', subjective masyado e... tsaka sa DLSU kasi ako galing e :)

May nakita akong facilities kanina sa UP. Ayos yun. Actually may mga ka-batch ako noon sa ECE (sa La Salle) na pumupunta pa sa UP para magawa ang thesis nila.

May kanya-kanyang strengths talaga e. Kesyo topnotcher ang mga graduate ng isa, hindi ibig sabihin astig na ang school niya. I agree that where the individual lands after graduation is the judge.

One thing that bugs me though: Mapua graduates are known for being one of the best and most well-trained analysts and techies in the country. Kaso noong nagre-review ako para sa board exam, nasira ang impression ko sa Mapuans. Hindi kasi nila matanggap na may mas matataas sa kanila sa 'mock' examinations, at kung anu-ano pa ang sinasabi. Ang sagwa e. Sana hindi lahat ng Mapuan ganoon.

[AngryBird]

Ayos to a. Payabangan ng kung ano meron sa kung kanino.

Aba syempre da best ang pinanggalingan niyo!! Doon kayo nag-aral e. Sus!

Given this fact, ang masasabi ko lang ay worth mentioning ang GALING ng DLSU, UP, at Mapua. MAGALING lang. Kasi kung 'best', subjective masyado e... tsaka sa DLSU kasi ako galing e :)

May nakita akong facilities kanina sa UP. Ayos yun. Actually may mga ka-batch ako noon sa ECE (sa La Salle) na pumupunta pa sa UP para magawa ang thesis nila.

May kanya-kanyang strengths talaga e. Kesyo topnotcher ang mga graduate ng isa, hindi ibig sabihin astig na ang school niya. I agree that where the individual lands after graduation is the judge.

One thing that bugs me though: Mapua graduates are known for being one of the best and most well-trained analysts and techies in the country. Kaso noong nagre-review ako para sa board exam, nasira ang impression ko sa Mapuans. Hindi kasi nila matanggap na may mas matataas sa kanila sa 'mock' examinations, at kung anu-ano pa ang sinasabi. Ang sagwa e. Sana hindi lahat ng Mapuan ganoon.

[AngryBird]

Ayos to a. Payabangan ng kung ano meron sa kung kanino.

Aba syempre da best ang pinanggalingan niyo!! Doon kayo nag-aral e. Sus!

Given this fact, ang masasabi ko lang ay worth mentioning ang GALING ng DLSU, UP, at Mapua. MAGALING lang. Kasi kung 'best', subjective masyado e... tsaka sa DLSU kasi ako galing e :)

May nakita akong facilities kanina sa UP. Ayos yun. Actually may mga ka-batch ako noon sa ECE (sa La Salle) na pumupunta pa sa UP para magawa ang thesis nila.

May kanya-kanyang strengths talaga e. Kesyo topnotcher ang mga graduate ng isa, hindi ibig sabihin astig na ang school niya. I agree that where the individual lands after graduation is the judge.

One thing that bugs me though: Mapua graduates are known for being one of the best and most well-trained analysts and techies in the country. Kaso noong nagre-review ako para sa board exam, nasira ang impression ko sa Mapuans. Hindi kasi nila matanggap na may mas matataas sa kanila sa 'mock' examinations, at kung anu-ano pa ang sinasabi. Ang sagwa e. Sana hindi lahat ng Mapuan ganoon.

[chick-boy]

how about TIP ( technological Institute of the Philippines)... http://www.pinoyexchange.com/bop.gif magaling din ba yun??! http://www.pinoyexchange.com/bop.gif

[reg]

[mamangbumbero]

Originally posted by Light
Mapua! bago kayo magambisyong maging best! eh paki renovate ang buong building nyo at sobrang kahiyahiya! ... Mapua Wala kayong CoE's sa kahit saang field! na offered sa schools like UP,DLSU & UST!!!


Only Three schools today can claim to be the BEST! and that it DLSU,UP-Diliman & UST! on the basis of their CoE's and CoD's as recognized by CHED! and Passing Percentage by PRC! as baka isipin nyo na dahil you hit some top places in the board eh best na kayo!?? MAGISING KAYO!
Paki renovate ang building nyo! ang panghi! ang sikip! ang dilim! parang pagpumadyak ka eh tutumba na!!!...pls.! lang NAKAKAHIYA!


Napaka ambisyoso....!!!!


See the light will YOU!tigilan ang Pagiilusyon!


[This message has been edited by Light (edited 07-06-2000).]

Clearly a view point from a narrow minded individual.


FYI this thread has come to a very senseless derogatory remark-throwing situation, clearly just a form of "d*ck-measuring" assertions.


I will not rebuttle by throwing mud at you. But instead, I'll give a something to think about. It's quite lengthy, but a good read.

The Filipinos: Why We Are Poor

Please read with an open mind and open heart. Any soul puporting to be patriotic should feel the honesty of this essay.

In one of the luncheons he hosted recently for clients of the Rizal Commercial Banking Corp., Ambassador Alfonso T. Yuchengco asked the writer Francisco Sionil Jose to share some of his observations of the current scene. This is the paper Mr. Jose read on that occasion.

What did South Korea look like after the Korean War in 1953? Battered, poor
- but look at Korea now. In the Fifties, the traffic in Taipei was composed of bicycles and Army trucks, the streets flanked by tile-roofed low buildings. Jakarta was a giant village and Kuala Lumpur a small village surrounded by jungle and rubber plantations. Bangkok was criss-crossed with canals, the tallest structure was the *** Arun, the Temple of the Sun, and it dominated the city's skyline. Rice fields all the way from Don Muang airport - then a huddle of galvanized iron-roofed bodegas, to the Victory monument.

Visit these cities today and weep - for they are more beautiful, cleaner and prosperous than Manila. In the Fifties and Sixties we were the most envied country in Southeast Asia.


Remember further that when Indonesia
got its independence in 1949, it had only 114 university graduates compared to the hundreds of Ph.D.'s which were already in our universities. Why then were we left behind? The economic explanation is simple. We did not produce cheaper and better products.

The basic question really is: why we did not modernize fast enough and thereby doomed our people to poverty. This is the harsh truth about us today. Just consider these: some 15 years ago a survey showed that half of all grade school pupils dropped out after grade 5 because they had no money to continue
schooling. Thousands of young adults today are therefore unable to find jobs. Our natural resources have been ravaged and they are not renewable. Our tremendous population
increase eats up all of our economic gains. There is hunger in this country now; our poorest eat only once a day.

But this physical poverty is really not as serious as the greater poverty that afflicts us and this is the poverty of the spirit.

Why then are we poor? More than ten years ago, James Fallows, editor of the Atlantic Monthly came to the Philippines and wrote about our damaged culture which, he asserted, impeded our development. Many disagreed with him but I do find a great deal of truth in his analysis.


This is not to say that I blame our social and moral malaise on colonialism alone. But we did inherit from Spain a social system and an elite that, on purpose, exploited the masses. Then, too, in the Iberian peninsula, to work with one's hands is frowned upon and we inherited that vice as well. Colonialism by foreigners may no longer be what it was, but we are now a colony of our own elite.

We are poor because we are poor - this is not a tautology. The culture of poverty is self-perpetuating. We are poor because our people are lazy. I pass by a slum area every
morning - dozens of adults do nothing but idle, gossip and drink. We do not save. Look at the Japanese and how they save in spite of the fact that the interest given them by their banks is so little. They work very hard too.

We are great show-offs. Look at our women, how overdressed, over-coiffed they are, and Imelda epitomizes that extravagance. Look at our men, their manicured nails, their personal jewelry, their diamond rings. Yabang -that is what we are, and all that money expended on status symbols, on yabang. How much better if it were channeled into production. We are poor because our nationalism is inward looking. Under its guise we protect inefficient industries and monopolies. We did not pursue agrarian reform like Japan and Taiwan. It is not so much the development of the rural sector, making it productive and a good market as well. Agrarian reform releases the energies of the landlords who, before the reform, merely waited for the harvest. They become entrepreneurs, the harbingers of change. Our nationalist icons like Claro M. Recto and Lorenzo Ta±ada opposed agrarian reform, the single most important factor that would have altered the rural areas and lifted the peasant from poverty. Both of them were merely anti-American.

And finally, we are poor because we have lost our ethical moorings. We condone cronyism and corruption and we don't ostracize or punish the crooks in our midst. Both cronyism and corruption are wasteful but we allow their practice because our loyalty is to family or friend, not to the larger good.

We can tackle our poverty in two very distinct ways. The first choice: a nationalist revolution, a continuation of the revolution in 1896. But even before we can use violence to change inequities in our society, we must first have a profound change in our way of thinking, in our culture. My regret about EDSA is that change would have been possible then with a minimum of bloodshed. In fact, a revolution may not be bloody at all if something like EDSA would present itself again. Or a dictator unlike Marcos.

The second is through education, perhaps a longer and more complex process. The only problem is that it may take so long and by the time conditions have changed, we may be
back where we were, caught up with this tremendous population explosion which the Catholic Church exacerbates in its conformity with doctrinal purity.

We are faced with a growing compulsion to violence, but even if the communist won, they will rule as badly because they will be hostage to the same obstructions in our culture, the barkada, the vaulting egos that sundered the revolution in 1896, the Huk revolt in 1949-53.

To repeat neither education nor revolution can succeed if we do not internalize new attitudes, new ways of thinking. Let us go back to basics and remember those American slogans: A Ford in every garage. A chicken in every pot. Money is like fertilizer: to do any good it must be spread around.

Some Filipinos, taunted wherever they are, are shamed to admit they are Filipinos. I have, myself, been embarrassed explain for instance why Imelda, her children and the Marcos cronies are back, and in positions of power?

Are there redeeming features in our country that we can be proud of? Of course, lots of them. When people say for instance that our corruption will never be banished, just remember that Arsenio Lacson as mayor of Manila and Ramon Magsaysay as President brought a clean government.

We do not have the classical arts that brought Hinduism and Buddhism to continental and archipelagic Southeast Asia, but our artists have now ranged the world, showing what we have done with Western art forms, enriched with our own ethnic traditions. Our professio

[mamangbumbero]

Originally posted by rao:
You must be referring to Dr. Diosdado Banatao. Yeah, you're right, it should not be taken as a proof because Dr. Banatao himself admitted that what he got from Mapua was insufficient.

Entry level car? really? He boasted in the Inquirer that one of his toys is a business jet.

Yes, that's why people go back to school and take their MS, and PhD regardless which college they came from.

Also, I don't see the point of arguing which is the best engineering school in the Philippines since when we go to the global IT market, we are all seen as engineers who graduated in engineering schools in some 3rd world country... and that levels up the playing field.

FYI I know a number of engineers in the US who graduated in an (as earlier claimed) ill-equipped, ineffienct, and piss-smelly place called Mapua Inst. of Tech who earn in the USD 6-digit range, and are only in their mid-20s... This is not to discount engineers from other schools, all 'am pointing out is it is not how glary the facilities, and etc., etc. it is what you know, and can do that matters; regardless, of school, race, nationality. Wala taga-La Salle, Ateneo, UP, UST, Mapua, etc. MIT, UC-Berkeley, UI-Champaine, CalTech, Indian Inst. of Tech, etc.

[My_Labs@@@]

Originally posted by mamangbumbero:
Yes, that's why people go back to school and take their MS, and PhD regardless which college they came from.

Also, I don't see the point of arguing which is the best engineering school in the Philippines since when we go to the global IT market, we are all seen as engineers who graduated in engineering schools in some 3rd world country... and that levels up the playing field.

FYI I know a number of engineers in the US who graduated in an (as earlier claimed) ill-equipped, ineffienct, and piss-smelly place called Mapua Inst. of Tech who earn in the USD 6-digit range, and are only in their mid-20s... This is not to discount engineers from other schools, all 'am pointing out is it is not how glary the facilities, and etc., etc. it is what you know, and can do that matters; regardless, of school, race, nationality. Wala taga-La Salle, Ateneo, UP, UST, Mapua, etc. MIT, UC-Berkeley, UI-Champaine, CalTech, Indian Inst. of Tech, etc.



You Know... I agree with ur opinion on the topic, it really does not matter how nice and clean the school is, or how hi-tech or expensive the facilities are... It is on how good and how persevering the student is.. As many of u would recall, the number 1 in the Bar exam a few years back, was a student from DAgupan , from a not so reputable school, with poor library resources, and such... The case is the same with any field of specialization... Everything depends on the Student.

[Maverick]

mamangbumbero: that's true. pag nasa work na kayo sa umpisa lang yung tanungan kung saang school ka nanggaling or kung anong course yung tinapos mo. when you get into a project, you have to help each other and pick up one another should one of you fall down. tulungan na dyan, ala na payabangan. :D

[jan_21]

I guess still MApuA!!

[jugger]

The best Engineering schools in the Philippines are De La Salle Manila, UP-Diliman and Mapua in that order.

[badabing]

Originally posted by mamangbumbero:
Yes, that's why people go back to school and take their MS, and PhD regardless which college they came from.

Also, I don't see the point of arguing which is the best engineering school in the Philippines since when we go to the global IT market, we are all seen as engineers who graduated in engineering schools in some 3rd world country... and that levels up the playing field.

FYI I know a number of engineers in the US who graduated in an (as earlier claimed) ill-equipped, ineffienct, and piss-smelly place called Mapua Inst. of Tech who earn in the USD 6-digit range, and are only in their mid-20s... This is not to discount engineers from other schools, all 'am pointing out is it is not how glary the facilities, and etc., etc. it is what you know, and can do that matters; regardless, of school, race, nationality. Wala taga-La Salle, Ateneo, UP, UST, Mapua, etc. MIT, UC-Berkeley, UI-Champaine, CalTech, Indian Inst. of Tech, etc.



well said

[kessel]

Originally posted by vinncho:
Well, the CHED designated as Centers of Excellence (COE) the following Engineering Courses in the De La Salle University Manila - College of Engineering namely:

1. Mechanical Engineering
2. Chemical Engineering
3. Electronics & Communication Engineering
4. Industrial Engineering

Moreover according to CHED, De La Salle's Mechanical Engineering and Chemical Engineering courses are the ONLY CHED-affirmed Centers of Excellence for these two respective Engineering courses.

So in my opinion De La Salle has the BEST College of Engineering in the Philippines.



I certainly agree.

[xpert]

it's DLSU-manila :cool:

[My_Labs@@@]

YOu know guys, La SAlle, and MApua, really do have great facilities and labs. THey have the MOney, Thats y their one opf the BEST. But what's interesting is that, UPDil, with all the Budget cuts and "ANcient" Equipment, Y is it that, it is one of the BEST if not THE best Engg, school... UP is like a 486 IBM compt. at Par with PENTIUM III and KMD... PROVES IT, if all things were to be equal, UP is still, and will always be THE BEST

[claptonn]

The best Engineering schools in the Philippines are DLSU-Manila, UP-Diliman & Mapua.

[gongxiaobin]

definitely UP, definitely the Department of Mechanical Engineering of UP Diliman.

[singollo]

up diliman, hands down. the facilities of dlsu, though, are very up-to-date. in the last nstw (national science and technology week) fair held at the pttc, the dlsu displays were impressive. but here you can see the creativity and ingenuity of the up engg students. we may not have access to the most expensive equipment, but we matched their machines and we won the mobile robot races.

i have a lot of respect for mapua, since they usually top the board exams, but i still believe that the up engineering graduate is better, since we have extensive hands on experience in our fields. the board exams are just objective type exams, and not really a good measure of engineering capability.

[leylon]

syempre la salle!!! :D :D :D

[gongxiaobin]

you might even be able to count how many graduates UP college of engineering has every semester while the average residency of a student could be anywhere between 6 or 7.5 years and the many more are being kicked out of the college... that's how difficult UP engineering is.

[claptonn]

Congrats to the La Sallian who recently topped the last Electronics and Communications Engineering(ECE) Board Exams!

[Tomas]

1. DLSU - Manila
2. UP Diliman
3. UST

[karen_c]

What is your basis for this question ba? Is it the performance of the students in school... the EXPENSIVE facilities which you mentioned... the SCHOOL itself... or the results which you get from the students after graduation? Judging the best school is not a matter of determining whose facilities are the most advanced (or obsolete for that matter) because as people have different point of views, they could look at this ONE TOPIC in several different ways. ITS ALL THE SAME BANANA!!! It really depends on the student as one said...

[karen_c]

by the way, masasabi niyo ba naman na ang school ay "NOT ONE OF THE BEST SCHOOLS" just because merong isang student na nagkamali ng GRAMMAR! yun lang ba?

[Ian_langpo]

I think La Salle also.

Kasi, according sa mga graduates ng Marist (school ko nung High), professors ng Mapua ay graduate ng La Salle, or nag-mamasterals sa La Salle.

Correct me if I'm wrong okay?

[adi sophia]

lasalle and mapua

[Hckie]

DON BOSCO is the best Engineering... bulok lasalle at ateneo at mapua..... :)

[rqgepilanno75]

As per CHED standards, DLSU-Manila is the ONLY CENTER OF EXCELLENCE (COE)in two of its Engineering Courses namely Chemical Engineering and Nechanical Engineering in the Philippines.

UP-Diliman only has a CENTER OF DEVELOPMENT (COD) distinction in Chemical Engineering and Mechanical Engineering.

However in Electronics and Communications Engineering, both DLSU-Manila and UP-Diliman have the SAME CENTER OF EXCELLENCE (COE) distinction.

[gambit_21]

http://www.pinoyexchange.com/silly.gif tinatanong pa ba yan? http://www.pinoyexchange.com/angel.gif

http://www.pinoyexchange.com/smokin.gif UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES :D


[This message has been edited by gambit_21 (edited 09-14-2000).]

[cHechE]

http://www.pinoyexchange.com/goon.gif http://www.pinoyexchange.com/goon.gif http://www.pinoyexchange.com/goon.gif
almamatter DLSu syempre then MAPUA.... marami rin akong friends dyan.

[frigy]

dlsu pa rin http://www.pinoyexchange.com/lol.gif http://www.pinoyexchange.com/lol.gif http://www.pinoyexchange.com/lol.gif

[MIP13]

dlsu.

[frigy]

Originally posted by Hckie:
DON BOSCO is the best Engineering... bulok lasalle at ateneo at mapua..... :)
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[woh]

mapua is a great school!!!
we may not be good at first - but in the process...
...we turn out to be the best!!!


peace.

[chinkyeyes12]

U.P. Diliman galing nyo guys !Hi Atom A. !

[charlie_g]

Originally posted by lorenzo
The fact that DLSU-Manila and UP-Diliman are just about the ONLY PHILIPPINE universities that offer quality Engineering Education amid the vast sea of Engineering College Diploma Mills says A LOT about the philophy of these two universities - THEY ONLY STRIVE FOR THE BEST IN WHATEVER THEY DO.

Personally, I would give the EDGE to DE LA SALLE UNIVERSITY-MANILA over UP-DILIMAN. In fact even in the Engineering Courses they similarly offer, even CHED gives the superiority EDGE to DLSU-Manila.

However, UP-Diliman is very good also in Engineering. I cannot say the same about the other universities offering Engineering courses.

[This message has been edited by lorenzo (edited 04-13-2000).]

Had you studied in UP Eng'g, you'd certainly eat your words. For sure.
The fact is, you are in La Salle because you did not pass in UP.

[mac_bolan00]

napaka-brutal mo naman, charlie!

[monsterboy]

GO UP DILIMAN!!!!!

:vale:

the only apparent edge why DLSU is better than UP Diliman is that they claim that they have better facilities. i'm afraid that the University of the Philippines Diliman is at par with these facilities we are talking about, their students are proficient in the software needed to operate these gadgets. hello...ang DLSU ay naghahire pa ng faculty ng UP para magpaturo kung papano gumamit ng mga nabibili nilang equipment....:toofunny: hehehe, if the la salle people dont know it yet, lasalle has already 2 member of our faculty for an endeavor similar to this...

pero magaling din naman ang la salle...but not as proficient in engineering as UP. hehehehehe...

[spicyham]

nye. how can lasalle claim superiority in engineering when it doesn't even offer the whole gamut of engineering courses-

to say that you are the best engineering college based on three courses stamped by a nebulous ched distinction is simply inadequate-

[snowfleuphagus]

I believe that the best COE is in DLSU. Followed by UP. Eh lahat naman yata maganda sa UP. Natalo lang ng DLSU ang UP sa Accountancy, Engineering and Computer Studies.

[alj]

1. UP Diliman
2. DLSU, Main
3. MSU Iligan Institute of Technology
4. MIT
5. U. of San Carlos, Cebu

[m@xELL]

I really don't think that we can just simply compare DLSU & UP since there are eng courses in UP that we do not have in DLSU, although if we're gonna consider what DLSU presently has, they definitely have the edge over UP due to the distinctions that DLSU has received from CHED such as the COE's & COD's........

the only apparent edge why DLSU is better than UP Diliman is that they claim that they have better facilities. i'm afraid that the University of the Philippines Diliman is at par with these facilities we are talking about, their students are proficient in the software needed to operate these gadgets. hello...ang DLSU ay naghahire pa ng faculty ng UP para magpaturo kung papano gumamit ng mga nabibili nilang equipment.... hehehe, if the la salle people dont know it yet, lasalle has already 2 member of our faculty for an endeavor similar to this...

:rocker: I don't see anything wrong with that........well maybe those 2 professors are sick of the stupid system of your school that's why they left......in fact we have 2 professors in the IE Dept. who came from ur school who just received their Masteral Degrees in DLSU and currently pursuing their Doctoral degrees in DLSU as well....why is that??? well according to these 2 professors, they believe that DLSU has a better engineering program than UP, as simple as that! they even confessed that students in DLSU show more sincerity and eagerness in learning.............and about the FACILITY issue well its just one of the areas where DLSU surpasses UP.........you want some more :shrug: .........well we just marked another 100% passing rate in the recent ME Board Exams for the 4th consecutive year. :cheers:


I believe that the best COE is in DLSU. Followed by UP. Eh lahat naman yata maganda sa UP. Natalo lang ng DLSU ang UP sa Accountancy, Engineering and Computer Studies.

correction! I'TS NOT JUST ACCOUNTANCY, IT'S THE WHOLE COLLEGE OF BUSINESS & ECONOMICS hello!!!.........PLUS THE COLLEGE OF EDUCATION that constantly marks 100% passing rate.......and our COLLEGE OF SCIENCE :handsdown:

[vomer]

Originally posted by dudutt
DLSU-Manila.

Although UP-Diliman offers more Engineering courses than De La Salle, in the FIVE(5) engineering courses where DLSU & UP-Diliman compete HEAD-TO-HEAD, as per CHED - DLSU's courses are rated higher in three courses and tied in two courses.

Examples:
Mechanical Eng'g: DLSU-COE;UP-COD1
Chemical Eng'g : DLSU-COE;UP-COD1
Elect.& Comm. Eng'g: DLSU-COE; UP-COD1
Industrial Eng'g: DLSU: COE; UP-COE(tie)
Civil Eng'g : DLSU: COD1; UP-COD1(tie)

DLSU-Manila does NOT offer the other four(4) Eng'g courses mining, geodetic, metallurgical & electrical engineering where UP-Diliman has COEs. Nor does DLSU offer computer engineering since in DLSU - a separate College is devoted to Computer Studies & its sub-branches and is not under the engineering department.

DLSU-Manila though offers Manufacturing Eng'g (robotics specialization) which UP-Diliman does not offer & is still currently unrated by CHED since its a pioneering course in the Philippines.

I also give DLSU-Manila the edge in equipment/facilities and caliber of its engineering professors.

However I also have the highest regard for UP-Diliman's Engineering program also.

[This message has been edited by dudutt (edited 03-22-2000).]

[This message has been edited by dudutt (edited 03-22-2000).]


I agree with you.:cool:

[monsterboy]

pagestarter! yahoo!

of course, i cant blame our faculty for moving to lasalle, kasi naman, ang baba ng sweldo nila sa UP, hindi sila makabubuhay ng pamilya don...

the professors i meant are still with UP, they just helped out DLSU.

may kakilala akong teacher ng ME, he teaches in both UPD and DLSU. he was comparing the students in terms of capability and academic aptitude, and he said na "mahihina talaga ang mga taga-DLSU". thats a direct quote.

im sorry if im not arguing on a debating format--like i do on other threads, pagbigyan nyo na ako! :teehee:

[monsterboy]

pagestarter! yahoo!

of course, i cant blame our faculty for moving to lasalle, kasi naman, ang baba ng sweldo nila sa UP, hindi sila makabubuhay ng pamilya don...

the professors i meant are still with UP, they just helped out DLSU.

may kakilala akong teacher ng ME, he teaches in both UPD and DLSU. he was comparing the students in terms of capability and academic aptitude, and he said na "mahihina talaga ang mga taga-DLSU". thats a direct quote.

im sorry if im not arguing on a debating format--like i do on other threads, pagbigyan nyo na ako!

[rumpelsforeskin]

XAVIER UNIVERSITY CAGAYAN DE ORO

[inhinyero]

UP DILIMAN! No question about it! :D for me it's not about the accreditation of the departments of the college or the number of courses that are available, BUT the QUALITY of the students who graduate. Let's just say that UP Diliman Engineering students make up for the lack of financing and facilities by having more brains... hehehe... peace ;)

[m@xELL]

of course, i cant blame our faculty for moving to lasalle, kasi naman, ang baba ng sweldo nila sa UP, hindi sila makabubuhay ng pamilya don...
the professors i meant are still with UP, they just helped out DLSU.

may kakilala akong teacher ng ME, he teaches in both UPD and DLSU. he was comparing the students in terms of capability and academic aptitude, and he said na "mahihina talaga ang mga taga-DLSU". thats a direct quote.

im sorry if im not arguing on a debating format--like i do on other threads, pagbigyan nyo na ako!

WOWOWEEE! SUPER SOUR GRAPING NA YATA YAN.....JUST TRY TO LOOK NA LANG ON THE RESULTS OF PREVIOUS ME BOARD EXAMS....KAKAININ MO YANG SINABI MO AT NG PROF MO(IF HE REALLY SAID THAT..DUH!) THAT SHOWS THE TRUE CAPABILITY AND ACADEMIC APTITUDE OF A DLSU STUDENT.........WELL, IF YOUR PROF REALLY SAID THAT, I GUESS HE'S ONE OF THE TYPICAL UP PROF NA WALANG PAKIALAM SA STUDENTS NYA......DLSU IS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT COMPARED TO UR SCHOOL..........U WOULDNT UNDERSTAND COZ U NEVER HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF....... U KNOW WHAT I MEAN.......... :rocker:

P.S. MY BROTHER PLACED 11TH IN HIS BATCH WHO TOOK THE ME BOARD EXAM. HE'S JUST ONE OF THE 16 DLSU STUDES WHO MADE IT TO THE TOP 20 INCLUDING THE 1ST AND THE 2ND PLACER.
:cheers:

[Mickey2000]

The best Engineering School in the Phils,well....?????


It depends,naging anong klaseng engineer ka ba, Engineer by profession,or masabi lang na Engineer????

Kahit sa pinakaexclusive Engineering school ka pa graduate kung hindi mo rin lang naman nagagamit ang knowledge mo or wala kang nakuhang knowledge,what's the use of that school being the best Engineering Institution in town?

[Mickey2000]

Originally posted by Light&Easy
Mapua! bago kayo magambisyong maging best! eh paki renovate ang buong building nyo at sobrang kahiyahiya! and just for the record you cant claim to be one of the best when you have no proof at present that your indeed one! Mapua Wala kayong CoE's sa kahit saang field! na offered sa schools like UP,DLSU & UST!!!

Only Three schools today can claim to be the BEST! and that it DLSU,UP-Diliman & UST! on the basis of their CoE's and CoD's as recognized by CHED! and Passing Percentage by PRC! as baka isipin nyo na dahil you hit some top places in the board eh best na kayo!?? MAGISING KAYO!

Facilities....Mapua yours is obsolete and quite old needs to be improved!
Laboratories....you damn need the help of an expert!in improving these things!
Quality.... Your drifting away from the major league!...as reflected in different board exams results!!!!....

Your school charges quite high in tuitions but your students dont quite get the facilities that they deserve to have!.. for the record your fee is the third highest next to DLSU&UST! but when it comes to improvements of facilities and laboratories your logging behind the big three!!!

The Quality of Prof. are also quite behind in your dear Mapua! DLSU<;UP&UST! have many masteral and doctoral degree holders while yours are only bachelor degree holder now how can you have quality when your prof. is'nt quality at all!!

Paki renovate ang building nyo! ang panghi! ang sikip! ang dilim! parang pagpumadyak ka eh tutumba na!!!...pls.! lang NAKAKAHIYA!

Mapua....hmmmmm.saka na magambisyon pag na renovate at na uplift na ang facilities nyo!...

Napaka ambisyoso....!!!!

See the light will YOU!tigilan ang Pagiilusyon!




[This message has been edited by Light&Easy (edited 07-06-2000).]



I guess maybe you are right that those school that you mention is the best engineering school,but not in building a good character to it's student,bec the way I see it,it's very disgusting the way you look down on other school.
Maybe you better transfer in some school na may subject pa ring Good Manners and right conduct,

ps. But I'm not from Mapua,ok.

[geri]

Light&Easy,

ikaw ang dapat kilabutan sa sinasabi mo.... wag mo tingnan yung hitsura nung building... TINGNAN MO YUNG PRODUKTO NUNG ESKWELAHAN... kung saang school galing ang nag-e-excell sa field ng engineering.. kung sino ang magaling sa FIELD... mataas ang percentage ng passing ng UP, UST at DLSU sa board.. kasi konti lang nag te take ng BOARD... mga takot kasi...

[Tom_Riddle]

The question is: Graduates ba nang anong university ang pinag-aagawan ng mga leading engineering corporations? I guess, they can see best kung ano talaga ang quality ng engineers na nanggagaling sa mga schools na nabanggit.

and geri :

may kilala kang taga-UP na takot mag-board exam?

hay...:rolleyes:

[UST_BOY]

1. UP
2. DLSU
3. UST
4. MAPUA:D

[Unbound]

The University of the Philippines - Diliman.
Even if our classrooms are in want of renovation, the old signboards that read "Ialay ang talino sa bayan" never fail to inspire me.

[UST_BOY]

Thats the spirit of a true UPian!

[iskolar]

kahit kulang sa resources, hindi pa rin nagpapahuli ang UP..

di yata biro ang pagiging rank 18 ng UP sa academic reputation sa buong asia (ref: 2000 asiaweek survey).. fyi, sa facilities/resources lang naman bumabagsak ang UP.. :ahh::ahh::ahh:

[UST_BOY]

UNIVERSITY OF SANTO TOMAS
- is still one of the best and FIRST engineering skul in d phils.
brief description:
UST's engineers wer given also a degree in priesthood. Also UST ENGINEERING is the first and only engineering school that produced the best example of Quality engineering. THE UST MAIN BUILDING the first EARTHQUAKE proof building.

UST's BEST:
CoE in ELECTRONICS AND COMMUNICATIONS ENGGR.
*GOOD FACILITIES
*CERTIFIED TOPNOTCHERS
*GOD FEARING PROFESSIONALS
*GOOD ENGINEERING SKILLS
CoD (centers of Development)
-ALL ENGINEERING COURSES

Ang pagbangon ni Santo Tomas!
Viva Universitas Sancti Thomae Aquinatis! Onwards 400 years (1611-2011)

[Unbound]

UP fight! fight!:D

[redkix1]

Mapua! bago kayo magambisyong maging best! eh paki renovate ang buong building nyo at sobrang kahiyahiya! and just for the record you cant claim to be one of the best when you have no proof at present that your indeed one! Mapua Wala kayong CoE's sa kahit saang field! na offered sa schools like UP,DLSU & UST!!!


VISIT MAPUA TECH TODAY!!!!!!


http://www1.mapua-tech.edu.ph/news/nowandthen/library.asp










http://www1.mapua-tech.edu.ph/news/nowandthen/ncc.asp http://www1.mapua-tech.edu.ph/news/nowandthen/faculty.asp http://www1.mapua-tech.edu.ph/news/nowandthen/doit.asp

[benyaki]

Originally posted by geri
Light&Easy,

ikaw ang dapat kilabutan sa sinasabi mo.... wag mo tingnan yung hitsura nung building... TINGNAN MO YUNG PRODUKTO NUNG ESKWELAHAN... kung saang school galing ang nag-e-excell sa field ng engineering.. kung sino ang magaling sa FIELD... mataas ang percentage ng passing ng UP, UST at DLSU sa board.. kasi konti lang nag te take ng BOARD... mga takot kasi...

hmmm... maybe you're right about dun sa dahil konti lang ang nagte-take ng board exam from these schools... but don't you think na merong ibang aspects why konti lang ang kumukuha ng board exams from these schools??? don't you know na in a regular term in from one of these schools, iilan lang ang grumagradweyt ng eng??? i'm not sure na there was one time na less than 15 ang grumadweyt ng mech eng from one of them!!! regulars!!! compare that to the graduates of other engineering schools... although i admit, some would not take the board exams... pero hindi mo naisip na graduates from other schools don't take board exams as well??? peace... :silly:

maybe you're from mapua and i know how you feel... i think yuchengco has been doing a great job in doing a "rehabilitation" of your school... i know, coz i once walked into the halls of that institution, not as a student, but an applicant and an outsider, when i visit that school... malaki na ang pinagbago in these past few years... :silly:

[benyaki]

Originally posted by monsterboy
pagestarter! yahoo!

of course, i cant blame our faculty for moving to lasalle, kasi naman, ang baba ng sweldo nila sa UP, hindi sila makabubuhay ng pamilya don...

the professors i meant are still with UP, they just helped out DLSU.

may kakilala akong teacher ng ME, he teaches in both UPD and DLSU. he was comparing the students in terms of capability and academic aptitude, and he said na "mahihina talaga ang mga taga-DLSU". thats a direct quote.

im sorry if im not arguing on a debating format--like i do on other threads, pagbigyan nyo na ako! :teehee:

i have a friend from dlsu, mech eng student, and he is asking what's the name of the faculty??? does he/she work part time??? :silly:

[UST_BOY]

Ang santo tomas pa rin ang tunay na ina ng inhenyero sa pilipinas. VIVA SANTO TOMAS!

[bUrAoT]

I graduated from UST last 1998 as BS Mechanical Engineering.
No one in our batch failed the board exam which made us the best University in BSME... and I'm still proud of it. *okay*

[UST_BOY]

Originally posted by bUrAoT
I graduated from UST last 1998 as BS Mechanical Engineering.
No one in our batch failed the board exam which made us the best University in BSME... and I'm still proud of it. *okay*
Thats very gud to hear buraot! Congratulations to you, your batch. You have given pride to UST.

[baby_aLLen]

Originally posted by bUrAoT
I graduated from UST last 1998 as BS Mechanical Engineering.
No one in our batch failed the board exam which made us the best University in BSME... and I'm still proud of it. *okay*

yup...magaling talaga jan...i have one classmate whose older bro is taking up mech eng jan sa ust....pinagawa nung bro nya *** kanyang thesis...nahirapan classmate ko...he finished the whole thesis in 2 weeks...

[kLaZoManiaC]

efforts are being made to elevate the status of the whole UST Faculty of Engineering as Center of Excellence.

[kLaZoManiaC]

efforts are being made to elevate the status of the whole UST Faculty of Engineering as Center of Excellence.

[UST_BOY]

Originally posted by kLaZoManiaC
efforts are being made to elevate the status of the whole UST Faculty of Engineering as Center of Excellence.
It only proves that UST is one of the premier, most revered and QUEEN of Engineering Sciences in the Philippines.
VIVA UNIVERSITAS SANCTI THOMAE AQUINATIS!

[ninna__]

i could concede perhaps na magaganda nga equipt ng DLSU... necessary yon para maging maganda ang eng'g school mo... so lamang na lamang DLSU sa UP...

pero kung ang tanong eh, Best Engineering Students.... hmmm... ibang usapan yata... :)

[UST_BOY]

Originally posted by ninna__
i could concede perhaps na magaganda nga equipt ng DLSU... necessary yon para maging maganda ang eng'g school mo... so lamang na lamang DLSU sa UP...

pero kung ang tanong eh, Best Engineering Students.... hmmm... ibang usapan yata... :)
Tunog UP. heheheeee

[redkix1]

pls. visit this site and see the improvements on MAPUA!!!!



http://www1.mapua-tech.edu.ph/news/nowandthen/default.asp


C:desktop/mapuapicture



thanks!!!

[justInStix]

Hu cares about your developments anyway? Sobrang yayabang nyo naman... low tech pala a...*** MAPUA? Oo naman, may bago pa ba sa news na yan? bwahahahaha..

Hu wud ever believe you ha? even an idiot knows what skuls are in line with technology and excellence.. of course not to mention LA SALLE AND ATENEO :taas_kilay:

[justInStix]

Originally posted by mamangbumbero
I have one thing to say, Mapuans do not spend time with "who's the best school" discussions. We let the board examination statistics speak for us.
Sunday, 30 January 2000
PRC board exams and globalization http://www.mb.com.ph/oped/2000%2D01/oe013007.asp

If this doesn't prove anything, then you're just a bunch guys on crack who won't accept the truth.

stay cool.

Mamang Bumbero



And Timothy , kung ang mga kadugo kong lasalista ay walang ibang ***** kundi facilities, Cheers! Bottoms Up for Mapua! na walang ***** kundi "visit this website".
bwahehe...:D

Hmm...buti pa mga tiga Katips silent ***..mind you..they're just being observant huh.:p

From the Maroons and the Archers...

We miss youh
Ateneo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

[justInStix]

Originally posted by Mickey2000




I guess maybe you are right that those school that you mention is the best engineering school,but not in building a good character to it's student,bec the way I see it,it's very disgusting the way you look down on other school.
Maybe you better transfer in some school na may subject pa ring Good Manners and right conduct,

ps. But I'm not from Mapua,ok.


hEY, excuse me? Do you might wana check hu among of us badly needs character building ha? We UP, DLSU and UST don't have to wrap it up on your face unless you want us to.

Our parents didn't prepare us for college and guide us to the best skuls just to become inhuman and not human-like with big heads.

I don't know where in the world you sprouted, I just hope your skul is very proud to have you to belong there moreso if your school has a very good reputation and standards.

Adios!

[justInStix]

Originally posted by justInStix
Hu cares about your developments anyway? Sobrang yayabang nyo naman... low tech pala a...*** MAPUA? Oo naman, may bago pa ba sa news na yan? bwahahahaha..

Hu wud ever believe you ha? even an idiot knows what skuls are in line with technology and excellence.. of course not to mention LA SALLE AND ATENEO :taas_kilay:

And before I leave this thread, I wud just like to add that when it comes to excellence UP will always be there, no matter what. It's one complete sentence. Never questionable. :bow:

[justInStix]

Originally posted by Ian_langpo

I think La Salle also.

Kasi, according sa mga graduates ng Marist (school ko nung High), professors ng Mapua ay graduate ng La Salle, or nag-mamasterals sa La Salle.

Correct me if I'm wrong okay?


Very true. So many. There is a certain faculty dept. that almost or i think all have Masterals here. It's not bad, I think it's good. That wud help Mapua improve pa. I just think they should at least serve La Salle too after their MA's.... after all, they are scholars here, But I don't think that is similar as to the phrase "milking the nature dry"

[justInStix]

Originally posted by geri
Light&Easy,

ikaw ang dapat kilabutan sa sinasabi mo.... wag mo tingnan yung hitsura nung building... TINGNAN MO YUNG PRODUKTO NUNG ESKWELAHAN... kung saang school galing ang nag-e-excell sa field ng engineering.. kung sino ang magaling sa FIELD... mataas ang percentage ng passing ng UP, UST at DLSU sa board.. kasi konti lang nag te take ng BOARD... mga takot kasi...


geri DI KME TAKOT. Do you know how's it like to be in a trimestral system? Oh well, I'm sure you don't that's why you just simply let words get out from your blabber mouth!

Konti ang nagtatake ng board and usually di kasabay ng mga grad from semestral skuls kac we are in a trisem and only few afford to graduate on time, sa hirap dahil sa sobrang bilis at pressure and just imagine na *** na we're given the same scope of lessons just like any other engi'g skul around. Walang nababawas sa mga topics.

To be the a good eng'g skul you must equip your students with knowlede and upgraded facilities in balance. That's the fact. Geared up with an atittude a future engineer ought to have.

[boyaks]

HAVE YOU HEARD :

UNIV. OF SAN CARLOS-TECHNOLOGICAL CENTER
cebu, philippines

...we've got a dean there who is from la salle and you
know people...she always talk about la salle.....


....whats good about la salle...well I DONT CARE!

.....my batch, ece99 got the first place in national
IECEP quiz bowl !!!!!!!....we're proud to be one
of the few.

[UST_BOY]

NO QUESTION!
Pinatunayan na ng PRC, CHED at ang magagaling na alumni:
TATLO LANG ANG TUNAY NA MAGALING
1. UP (alam na natin)
2. DLSU (with COE)
3. UST (with COE)

okey din ang...
1. MAPUA (kaso pangit ng facilities, kailangang ayusin pati dapat maging accredited na ng CHED ang courses nyo)
2. ADAMSON (marami na tong Center of developments)

[mark_d_spark]

i agree that UP is the over-all best school in the Philippines...but not in engineering....
1.UST
2.UP
3.who cares.....

wanna know why UST???we'r d center of excellence in ECE( lasalle got a center of excellence na din yata coz of their high-tech labs cyempre)...alam ko pati sa CHE....the other departments were given center of development...one step away from being center of excellence....pero malapit na coz of their performance in their respective board exams...hav u seen the add posted by PRC sa mla. bulettin last year...it showed the top performing schools in all board exams...UST engg placed # 1 in the 100 and plus examinees...our lowest passing rate in ECE was 85%(beat dat!!!)...imagine you have 150 examinees and you obtain a very high passing rate.our passing rate last november was was 95%,115 out of 121 examinees...yung iba nga schools, konti na examinees, below 30% pa passing rate...UP always got a passing rate of 80% and above BECAUSE THEY HAVE LESS EXAMINEES!!!tska its very embarassing to know that some UP students still flank in their board exams...bakit kaya???akala ko lahat sila skolar ng bayan??? wanna verify if im tellin the truth...go to prc.gov.ph. click on news and events...you'll see there the results of the board exams plus the ranking of the schools...
im a little bit confused why walang ranking ang sa ECE.... ME, EE,CE and CHE have school rankings...pero im pretty sure we'r d #1 sa ECE...

about lasalle,dey r good din...cyempre **** money is directly proportional to the quality of education!!!hirit ng mga taga -UP, dey got no money daw,only brain.... cummon, dami ako kilala na rich kids na taga-UP...tska ur bein funded by the government, that's why mababa tuition nyo....MAPUA???wen i was still small, i believe deyr d best...but i cant see them in the rankings e!!!nabili na yata sila ng lasalle so ***** mag-iimprove na sila...alam ko nirerenovate na classrooms and laboratories nila!!!but napag-iwanan na yata sila eh...


UST #1 Eng'g School !!!

maybe wer a little bit softspoken and humble but dont you ever think dat you're superior dan us...wer taught kasi the essence of humility in our theology classes ...dats why we work silently in our workplace...wer not intellectual monsters na akala mo nakalutang na sa hangin ang paa because they came from a good school!!!

[seav]

Kung COEs at CODs lang naman ang pinag-uusapan eto ang dapat malaman ninyo. (Facts in addition to the ones given in earlier posts.)

UST offers 6 eng'g programs: ChE, CE, ECE, EE, IE, and ME. One is a COE (ECE) and the rest are CODs.

DLSU-Main offers 6 eng'g programs: ChE, CE, ECE, IE, ME, and MEM. 3 are COEs (ChE, ECE, ME) and 2 are CODs (CE and IE).

UP-Diliman offers 11 eng'g programs: ChE, CE, CoE, ECE, EE, GE, IE, ME, MetE, MinE, and MatE. 4 are COEs (EE, GE, IE, MetE) and 6 are CODs (ChE, CE, CoE, ECE, ME, MinE).

Adamson U has 7 CODs (ChE, CE, CoE, ECE, EE, IE, ME).

Map&uacute;aTech offers 11 courses (ChE, CE, CoE, ECE, EE, EMSE, EnSE, IE, ME, MetE, MinE) and has 3 CODs (ChE, MetE, MinE).

Based on the information above (not yet counting PRC Licensure Exam results, industry links, curriculum, and facilities) and depending on how you look at it, either UP or DLSU is the best. UP for its diversity—offering 11 courses with 10 being at least a COD. And DLSU since it has COEs in the more "relevant" courses (ECE, ChE, ME). Not far behind is UST and Adamson.

If you're going to look at PRC Exam results, you need to look at it in a lot of different ways (all years or recent years): Passing rate (percentage or absolute), average grade of passers, topnotcher positions, relevance of exam to actual field situations, etc. You can almost show that any school is the best given the right combination, so I would caution against basing judgement using licensure exam results.

[Tom_Riddle]

Originally posted by mark_d_spark
i agree that UP is the over-all best school in the Philippines...but not in engineering....
1.UST
2.UP
3.who cares.....

wanna know why UST???we'r d center of excellence in ECE( lasalle got a center of excellence na din yata coz of their high-tech labs cyempre)...alam ko pati sa CHE....the other departments were given center of development...one step away from being center of excellence....pero malapit na coz of their performance in their respective board exams...hav u seen the add posted by PRC sa mla. bulettin last year...it showed the top performing schools in all board exams...UST engg placed # 1 in the 100 and plus examinees...our lowest passing rate in ECE was 85%(beat dat!!!)...imagine you have 150 examinees and you obtain a very high passing rate.our passing rate last november was was 95%,115 out of 121 examinees...yung iba nga schools, konti na examinees, below 30% pa passing rate...UP always got a passing rate of 80% and above BECAUSE THEY HAVE LESS EXAMINEES!!!tska its very embarassing to know that some UP students still flank in their board exams...bakit kaya???akala ko lahat sila skolar ng bayan??? wanna verify if im tellin the truth...go to prc.gov.ph. click on news and events...you'll see there the results of the board exams plus the ranking of the schools...
im a little bit confused why walang ranking ang sa ECE.... ME, EE,CE and CHE have school rankings...pero im pretty sure we'r d #1 sa ECE...

about lasalle,dey r good din...cyempre **** money is directly proportional to the quality of education!!!hirit ng mga taga -UP, dey got no money daw,only brain.... cummon, dami ako kilala na rich kids na taga-UP...tska ur bein funded by the government, that's why mababa tuition nyo....MAPUA???wen i was still small, i believe deyr d best...but i cant see them in the rankings e!!!nabili na yata sila ng lasalle so ***** mag-iimprove na sila...alam ko nirerenovate na classrooms and laboratories nila!!!but napag-iwanan na yata sila eh...


UST #1 Eng'g School !!!

maybe wer a little bit softspoken and humble but dont you ever think dat you're superior dan us...wer taught kasi the essence of humility in our theology classes ...dats why we work silently in our workplace...wer not intellectual monsters na akala mo nakalutang na sa hangin ang paa because they came from a good school!!!

i pity you for living in a dreamland...

first, UP doesn't get high passing rates because we have less examinees. we simply get high passing rates! and having less examinees is not our fault. some of us don't appreciate the relevance of the board exams and more importantly, we don't have a diploma mill for your highly esteemed ECE degree.

you got a 95% passing rate in the Nov board? well, good for you! UP made 100% and nobody from UP has ever failed the ECE board exams. if you'd argue that it's because we only had 30 examinees... well, if we're only as good as you are, at least two should have failed right? but nobody did.

second, you seem to have so much respect for an ECE exam which does not have a single electronic circuit and asks questions about children's software... ("LOGO" remember?) oh, and remember that question about anything which occupies space and has weight? even the question was inaccurate... i don't think such an exam is a proper measure for academic merits in ECE. oh by the way, should an ECE really concern himself with the medical term for gradual loss of hearing due to old age? get real man!!!

what then is the proper measure of achievement in any of these disciplines? undeniably it is the quality of graduates and that of their relevant research output --if you attended the ECE Conference last November you would see how your beloved alma matter has shied away from showing any of your papers and researchwork... or could it be because you have none to be really proud of?

finally, don't talk to us about you being softspoken and humble and all that crap. the way you bashed other schools and the way you flaunted your little "achievements" is a proof that you don't have a drop of humility in your veins.

[breakdown98a]

Originally posted by m@xELL


WOWOWEEE! SUPER SOUR GRAPING NA YATA YAN.....JUST TRY TO LOOK NA LANG ON THE RESULTS OF PREVIOUS ME BOARD EXAMS....KAKAININ MO YANG SINABI MO AT NG PROF MO(IF HE REALLY SAID THAT..DUH!) THAT SHOWS THE TRUE CAPABILITY AND ACADEMIC APTITUDE OF A DLSU STUDENT.........WELL, IF YOUR PROF REALLY SAID THAT, I GUESS HE'S ONE OF THE TYPICAL UP PROF NA WALANG PAKIALAM SA STUDENTS NYA......DLSU IS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT COMPARED TO UR SCHOOL..........U WOULDNT UNDERSTAND COZ U NEVER HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF....... U KNOW WHAT I MEAN.......... :rocker:

P.S. MY BROTHER PLACED 11TH IN HIS BATCH WHO TOOK THE ME BOARD EXAM. HE'S JUST ONE OF THE 16 DLSU STUDES WHO MADE IT TO THE TOP 20 INCLUDING THE 1ST AND THE 2ND PLACER.
:cheers:

EXCUSE ME WALA SA PLACING MO SA BOARD EXAMS ANG SUCCESS MO, KAHIT ANO KA PANG SCHOOL, BASTA MAGALING KA, MAGALING KA. PUEDENG TOPNOTCHER KA SA BE, EH WALA KA NAMANG PERSONALITY, HOW CAN YOU BE SUCCESSFUL, DI BA?

YES UP IS ENTIRELY DIFF COMPARED TO UR SCHOOL. DESPITE D FACT NA MGA BULOK ANG FACILITIES NAMIN COMPARED TO URS, WE STILL MANAGE TO GET HOLD OF RESPECTED POSITIONS IN COMPANIES AFTER OUR GRADUATION EITHER IN THEPRI VATE OR THE PUBLIC SECTOR. KAHIT MAY SINGKO KA, BASTA UP ENGG KA, HINDI IBIG SABIHIN BOBO KA. GANUN LANG TALAGA KAHIRAP MAG-ARAL DITO. UP IS ENTIRELY DIFF TO UR SCHOOL NGA PALA KASI KAMI PA RIN ANG NUMBER 1 SA BUONG PILIPINAS.... U WOULDNT UNDERSTAND COZ U NEVER HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF....U KNOW WHAT I MEAN

[breakdown98a]

Originally posted by geri
Light&Easy,

ikaw ang dapat kilabutan sa sinasabi mo.... wag mo tingnan yung hitsura nung building... TINGNAN MO YUNG PRODUKTO NUNG ESKWELAHAN... kung saang school galing ang nag-e-excell sa field ng engineering.. kung sino ang magaling sa FIELD... mataas ang percentage ng passing ng UP, UST at DLSU sa board.. kasi konti lang nag te take ng BOARD... mga takot kasi...

EXCUSE ME HINDI TAKOT KUMUHA NG BOARD MG TAGA-UP. BAKIT KA MATATAKOT KUNG ALAM MONG PARATING 100% ANG PASSING STATUS SA BOARD EXAMS MO (ESP CIVIL ENGG)

[breakdown98a]

Originally posted by kessel


I certainly agree.

well, i trully believe that UP COE is the best engineering college in the country. Well-roundedness ang unang ini-instill sa amin. Specialization comes later. Parang ganito, being smart doesnt mean being a nerd, being active doesn't mean being delinquent.

iun lang po, just thinking aloud

[breakdown98a]

Originally posted by spookie
UP DIL SANA KASI THEY ARE WELL ROUNDED AND VERY HARD WORKING. PERO, IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATION SKILLS THEY LAG BEHIND SCHOOLS LIKE ATENEO AND DLSU. AN AVERAGE STUDENT FROM ATENEO AND LA SALLE IS BETTER THAN AN AVERAGE STUDENT FROM UP. BUT THE ONES WHO ARE A CLASS OF THEIR OWN ARE DEFINITELY FROM UP.

no we don't lag behind admu and dlsu when it comes to communication skills.

[m@xELL]

Originally posted by breakdown98a


EXCUSE ME WALA SA PLACING MO SA BOARD EXAMS ANG SUCCESS MO, KAHIT ANO KA PANG SCHOOL, BASTA MAGALING KA, MAGALING KA. PUEDENG TOPNOTCHER KA SA BE, EH WALA KA NAMANG PERSONALITY, HOW CAN YOU BE SUCCESSFUL, DI BA?

YES UP IS ENTIRELY DIFF COMPARED TO UR SCHOOL. DESPITE D FACT NA MGA BULOK ANG FACILITIES NAMIN COMPARED TO URS, WE STILL MANAGE TO GET HOLD OF RESPECTED POSITIONS IN COMPANIES AFTER OUR GRADUATION EITHER IN THEPRI VATE OR THE PUBLIC SECTOR. KAHIT MAY SINGKO KA, BASTA UP ENGG KA, HINDI IBIG SABIHIN BOBO KA. GANUN LANG TALAGA KAHIRAP MAG-ARAL DITO. UP IS ENTIRELY DIFF TO UR SCHOOL NGA PALA KASI KAMI PA RIN ANG NUMBER 1 SA BUONG PILIPINAS.... U WOULDNT UNDERSTAND COZ U NEVER HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF....U KNOW WHAT I MEAN

envy...yipee...
the results of these exams is just one factor where the excellence of a particular school shows...winning isn't everything, i know that....
so tell me what's the purpose of board exams...well i believe that "HUGE" companies use these results as a gauge or as a basis for hiring and i've proven this to be true in my brother's case
so what do u think made this happen??? simple,it's the good training and discipline that he's acquired from DLSU, he did not graduate as an honor student he was even an irregular student and yet he bested most of ur graduates when he placed 11th...
personality is just another thing...personality alone will not take u anywhere...that's the right way of sayin' that.

peace *okay*

[ian_d_martian]

To tom_riddle:have nothing against UP…I think you’re the best over-all school because of your good student selection and school retention policies…but don’t make the board exam as an excuse …if I know baka isa ka din sa mga frustrated na masama sa top !!!hehehe…tska don't say na hindi tlaga magaling mga taga-UP sa mga objective type of questions...you're sayin na magaling kayo yet you admit na you're not good in the kind of exam we have here???
it’s no big deal din for us mga taga UST…i admit that nasayang lang yung 3 years ko of majoring sa board exam...i think you can still pass the board kahit di ka nag-aral nung college ka coz many of the questions especially sa electronics were out of this world talaga for an ECE graduate...kung pwede nga lang puro design and problem solving ang board exam...im pretty sure we would be able to maintain our passing rate or even better inspite of the fact that we have many examinees...why not kaya i-try ng UP na magproduce ng at least a hundred students yearly sa ECE???i doubt if you would still be able to get a 100% passing rate...tska don't get me wrong ha...kasi some of you wants us to believe that UP students can't fail in the board exam...we'll you should check past board exams and board exams in other courses...
i'm shocked nga to know if a UP student failed a board exam because i used t think before na there's no reason for you to fail an exam kasi nga taga-UP ka and you're the #1 school...pero let's learn to accept victories as well as defeats...hindi **** palagi nasa itaas kayo ng wheel..."bilog ang gulong"....

may i ask, kelan ka nag-start magwork???I bet, nag-full time review ka..ako, I started working May last year…nagstart lang ako magreview 2nd week of august and I know many of my schoolmates na ganun din ang ginawa…board exam is no big deal for us…but we know we have to pass it just to get the title…don’t say na its no big deal sa lahat ng mga taga-UP yung board exam!!!meron din **** taga UP na ksama sa top 20 dba??? Do u know wyant chan???can u please ask him kung hindi sya nag-aim para makasama sa top 20…too bad, # 4 lang cya…alam ko *** over-all awardee ng Globe Telecom Achievement Awards…I expexted talaga dat he’ll land sa top 1... i admire him a lot and i believe that he deserved to be #1...that certainly proves dat kahit na you’re a graduate from the best school , it does’nt mean that you’ll be the best in every aspect of the game…kakatuwa nga lang kasi masyado kayo feeling superior???
Hey, why don’t you look at your feet!!!akala nyo ba nakalutang na kayo sa hangin??
Hehehe…no offense…(I don’t generalize kayong mga taga-UP…I have officemates from your school and they are very humble and simple…I admire them coz talagang magaling sila…para tuloy naiisip ko na tong mga guys na taga-UP na masyadong proud sa kanilang sarili are those students who belong to the lower 25% of their class!!!hehehe)….
.about dun sa ECE conference na sinansabi mo,we’ll im not surprise na marami taga UP ang nagparticipate and konti lang taga UST…common sense na lang…there’s no such thing as Masters of Science in ECE or in EE sa UST…
Unlike sa UP na u have master of science in EE with different majors(
Major in computers and communication, major in microelectronics, major in instrumentation and control, major in power )….that’s the reason why marami napoproduce na research papers ang UP…(ewan ko lang pero I’ve heard na marami daw dun sa mga research papers eh pang-library lang tlaga, they were not used in the industry)…perhaps you can correct me…why don’t you cite some papers na talagang napakinabangan or talagang kapaki-pakinabang…tsaka are you sure na lahat ng students sa UP Eng’g Grad school came from UP???I bet most of them came from other schools din… there’s only two university dito na nag-ooffer ng masters sa ECE…sa lasalle and UP lang…what is offered sa UST is “master of engineering program”…it is intended for faculty members…that’s why I’m not expectin a very complicated research paper from them..i’ve heard that they passed a paper on how to improve the ECE education in this country… if that’s true,then im very proud of it kasi they know how bad the ECE education is in our country…I think it will help a lot kesa naman dun sa mga papers na pang-library lang na gawa ng mga students from other schools who happened to study sa UP Grad School…i admit that if there's one thing na nagla-lag ang mga taga-UST, it's in the research field...thats one of the setbacks ng ust...sa asiaweek na lang,UST got very low score sa research unlike UP, lasalle and ateneo....if it is not to be included in the criterias, then we can be 2nd to UP sa asiaweek survey...pero i dont blame thomasians for not doing research papers...masyado na maliit yung library namin para sa mga research papers na wala nmang pakinabang, pampasikip lang!!!we would rather make one research paper per year, pero yung sigurado **** na mapapakinabangan talaga!!!

[mark_d_spark]

To tom_riddle:have nothing against UP…I think you’re the best over-all school because of your good student selection and school retention policies…but don’t make the board exam as an excuse …if I know baka isa ka din sa mga frustrated na masama sa top !!!hehehe…tska don't say na hindi tlaga magaling mga taga-UP sa mga objective type of questions...you're sayin na magaling kayo yet you admit na you're not good in the kind of exam we have here???
it’s no big deal din for us mga taga UST…i admit that nasayang lang yung 3 years ko of majoring sa board exam...i think you can still pass the board kahit di ka nag-aral nung college ka coz many of the questions especially sa electronics were out of this world talaga for an ECE graduate...kung pwede nga lang puro design and problem solving ang board exam...im pretty sure we would be able to maintain our passing rate or even better inspite of the fact that we have many examinees...why not kaya i-try ng UP na magproduce ng at least a hundred students yearly sa ECE???i doubt if you would still be able to get a 100% passing rate...tska don't get me wrong ha...kasi some of you wants us to believe that UP students can't fail in the board exam...we'll you should check past board exams and board exams in other courses...
i'm shocked nga to know if a UP student failed a board exam because i used t think before na there's no reason for you to fail an exam kasi nga taga-UP ka and you're the #1 school...pero let's learn to accept victories as well as defeats...hindi **** palagi nasa itaas kayo ng wheel..."bilog ang gulong"....

may i ask, kelan ka nag-start magwork???I bet, nag-full time review ka..ako, I started working May last year…nagstart lang ako magreview 2nd week of august and I know many of my schoolmates na ganun din ang ginawa…board exam is no big deal for us…but we know we have to pass it just to get the title…don’t say na its no big deal sa lahat ng mga taga-UP yung board exam!!!meron din **** taga UP na ksama sa top 20 dba??? Do u know wyant chan???can u please ask him kung hindi sya nag-aim para makasama sa top 20…too bad, # 4 lang cya…alam ko *** over-all awardee ng Globe Telecom Achievement Awards…I expexted talaga dat he’ll land sa top 1... i admire him a lot and i believe that he deserved to be #1...that certainly proves dat kahit na you’re a graduate from the best school , it does’nt mean that you’ll be the best in every aspect of the game…kakatuwa nga lang kasi masyado kayo feeling superior???
Hey, why don’t you look at your feet!!!akala nyo ba nakalutang na kayo sa hangin??
Hehehe…no offense…(I don’t generalize kayong mga taga-UP…I have officemates from your school and they are very humble and simple…I admire them coz talagang magaling sila…para tuloy naiisip ko na tong mga guys na taga-UP na masyadong proud sa kanilang sarili are those students who belong to the lower 25% of their class!!!hehehe)….
.about dun sa ECE conference na sinansabi mo,we’ll im not surprise na marami taga UP ang nagparticipate and konti lang taga UST…common sense na lang…there’s no such thing as Masters of Science in ECE or in EE sa UST…
Unlike sa UP na u have master of science in EE with different majors(
Major in computers and communication, major in microelectronics, major in instrumentation and control, major in power )….that’s the reason why marami napoproduce na research papers ang UP…(ewan ko lang pero I’ve heard na marami daw dun sa mga research papers eh pang-library lang tlaga, they were not used in the industry)…perhaps you can correct me…why don’t you cite some papers na talagang napakinabangan or talagang kapaki-pakinabang…tsaka are you sure na lahat ng students sa UP Eng’g Grad school came from UP???I bet most of them came from other schools din… there’s only two university dito na nag-ooffer ng masters sa ECE…sa lasalle and UP lang…what is offered sa UST is “master of engineering program”…it is intended for faculty members…that’s why I’m not expectin a very complicated research paper from them..i’ve heard that they passed a paper on how to improve the ECE education in this country… if that’s true,then im very proud of it kasi they know how bad the ECE education is in our country…I think it will help a lot kesa naman dun sa mga papers na pang-library lang na gawa ng mga students from other schools who happened to study sa UP Grad School…i admit that if there's one thing na nagla-lag ang mga taga-UST, it's in the research field...thats one of the setbacks ng ust...sa asiaweek na lang,UST got very low score sa research unlike UP, lasalle and ateneo....if it is not to be included in the criterias, then we can be 2nd to UP sa asiaweek survey...pero i dont blame thomasians for not doing research papers...masyado na maliit yung library namin para sa mga research papers na wala nmang pakinabang, pampasikip lang!!!we would rather make one research paper per year, pero yung sigurado **** na mapapakinabangan talaga!!!

[FuR_BoL]

i JUST WANA CORRECT SUMTHING BOUT THIS thread, the question to be answered here is WHAT UNIV. HAS THE BEST ENG'G?, we are talking of UNIVERSITIES not a COLLEGE. Has Mapua ever become a university? JUST ASKIN......

[Tom_Riddle]

Originally posted by mark_d_spark
To tom_riddle:have nothing against UP…I think you’re the best over-all school because of your good student selection and school retention policies…but don’t make the board exam as an excuse …if I know baka isa ka din sa mga frustrated na masama sa top !!!hehehe…tska don't say na hindi tlaga magaling mga taga-UP sa mga objective type of questions...you're sayin na magaling kayo yet you admit na you're not good in the kind of exam we have here???
it’s no big deal din for us mga taga UST…i admit that nasayang lang yung 3 years ko of majoring sa board exam...i think you can still pass the board kahit di ka nag-aral nung college ka coz many of the questions especially sa electronics were out of this world talaga for an ECE graduate...kung pwede nga lang puro design and problem solving ang board exam...im pretty sure we would be able to maintain our passing rate or even better inspite of the fact that we have many examinees...why not kaya i-try ng UP na magproduce ng at least a hundred students yearly sa ECE???i doubt if you would still be able to get a 100% passing rate...tska don't get me wrong ha...kasi some of you wants us to believe that UP students can't fail in the board exam...we'll you should check past board exams and board exams in other courses...
i'm shocked nga to know if a UP student failed a board exam because i used t think before na there's no reason for you to fail an exam kasi nga taga-UP ka and you're the #1 school...pero let's learn to accept victories as well as defeats...hindi **** palagi nasa itaas kayo ng wheel..."bilog ang gulong"....

may i ask, kelan ka nag-start magwork???I bet, nag-full time review ka..ako, I started working May last year…nagstart lang ako magreview 2nd week of august and I know many of my schoolmates na ganun din ang ginawa…board exam is no big deal for us…but we know we have to pass it just to get the title…don’t say na its no big deal sa lahat ng mga taga-UP yung board exam!!!meron din **** taga UP na ksama sa top 20 dba??? Do u know wyant chan???can u please ask him kung hindi sya nag-aim para makasama sa top 20…too bad, # 4 lang cya…alam ko *** over-all awardee ng Globe Telecom Achievement Awards…I expexted talaga dat he’ll land sa top 1... i admire him a lot and i believe that he deserved to be #1...that certainly proves dat kahit na you’re a graduate from the best school , it does’nt mean that you’ll be the best in every aspect of the game…kakatuwa nga lang kasi masyado kayo feeling superior???
Hey, why don’t you look at your feet!!!akala nyo ba nakalutang na kayo sa hangin??
Hehehe…no offense…(I don’t generalize kayong mga taga-UP…I have officemates from your school and they are very humble and simple…I admire them coz talagang magaling sila…para tuloy naiisip ko na tong mga guys na taga-UP na masyadong proud sa kanilang sarili are those students who belong to the lower 25% of their class!!!hehehe)….
.about dun sa ECE conference na sinansabi mo,we’ll im not surprise na marami taga UP ang nagparticipate and konti lang taga UST…common sense na lang…there’s no such thing as Masters of Science in ECE or in EE sa UST…
Unlike sa UP na u have master of science in EE with different majors(
Major in computers and communication, major in microelectronics, major in instrumentation and control, major in power )….that’s the reason why marami napoproduce na research papers ang UP…(ewan ko lang pero I’ve heard na marami daw dun sa mga research papers eh pang-library lang tlaga, they were not used in the industry)…perhaps you can correct me…why don’t you cite some papers na talagang napakinabangan or talagang kapaki-pakinabang…tsaka are you sure na lahat ng students sa UP Eng’g Grad school came from UP???I bet most of them came from other schools din… there’s only two university dito na nag-ooffer ng masters sa ECE…sa lasalle and UP lang…what is offered sa UST is “master of engineering program”…it is intended for faculty members…that’s why I’m not expectin a very complicated research paper from them..i’ve heard that they passed a paper on how to improve the ECE education in this country… if that’s true,then im very proud of it kasi they know how bad the ECE education is in our country…I think it will help a lot kesa naman dun sa mga papers na pang-library lang na gawa ng mga students from other schools who happened to study sa UP Grad School…i admit that if there's one thing na nagla-lag ang mga taga-UST, it's in the research field...thats one of the setbacks ng ust...sa asiaweek na lang,UST got very low score sa research unlike UP, lasalle and ateneo....if it is not to be included in the criterias, then we can be 2nd to UP sa asiaweek survey...pero i dont blame thomasians for not doing research papers...masyado na maliit yung library namin para sa mga research papers na wala nmang pakinabang, pampasikip lang!!!we would rather make one research paper per year, pero yung sigurado **** na mapapakinabangan talaga!!!

you are gravely mistaken mark_d_spark!

1) i aint frustrated for not being a topnotcher, if i wanted to --i could have been one, but the only serious reviewing i did was a month before the exam... so i don't really expect to do that well.

2) i didn't say that UP people aren't good in objective questions --if only the questions were relevant enough, objective or not, we could do exceptionally well. i don't suppose "prebycousis" is a relevant e.c.e. term...?

3) it is impossible to produce 100 e.c.e. students a year for a number of reasons:

a. we try to limit the number of students so that the teacher to student ratio and the ratio of students to lab equipment is optimized.
b.

[bytee]

i JUST WANA CORRECT SUMTHING BOUT THIS thread, the question to be answered here is WHAT UNIV. HAS THE BEST ENG'G?, we are talking of UNIVERSITIES not a COLLEGE.



HAVE U READ THE THREAD SUBJECT??

READ AGAIN . .

[kikoNpong]

basta sa ECE ang alam kong da best ang UP DILIMAN. I went to the 2nd ECE conference last Nov. held at UST, and from the qualities of the papers presented by La Salle, Ateneo and UST, panis sila sa UP. lang silbi mga scientific papers nila, pang-machine problem lang.

[mark_d_spark]

hey, it isn't impossible to produce more than a hundred ECE students a year if your school really want...compaer to the students from our school, i but i guess,its because you won't be be able to get a 100% passing rate...tska why limit the students just to optimize the teacher to student ratio???for me, its just another excuse!!!i admire your professors and i think that they are a little better than ours because they have PhDs...so why optimize??? hindi **** ***** maganda na you have a doctorate degree in ECE,but you're teaching a class of 5 or 10 students lang???hehehe...tska why be afraid eh puro **** kayo "iskolar ng bayan"?im very sure that most of the students in UP were highschool valedictorians and salutatorians...and with your good policy in student selection, why not produce more than a hundred of ECE students per year....pero i really doubt tlaga if you cud still obtain a 100% passing rate in any board exam if you have more than a hundred examinees....


tska bout the ECE conference, let us not compare the papers from your school to UST and Ateneo...we don't offer a masters degree in ECE...what is offered sa UST is a master in engineering program which is intended for faculty members to enhance their teaching skills and to become updated with the current techmologies..kaya don't expect that UST will present a very technical research paper...lasalle and UP lang meron masters degree sa ECE and sa UP, there are 4 majors(power,microelec,instrumentation,computers and comm) kaya it is expected that UP will present more papers in any ECE conference...if you want to compare the papers, compare it with the papers from lasalle...tska the students of UP Grad School came from different schools din ****..i bet only a few graduated from UP tlaga...

[Tom_Riddle]

obviously, i wasn't through...

you are saying we don't need to optimize the student-teacher ratio? and you're from the institution whose only contribution to the ECE Conference was a paper on ECE Education? tsk, you're a disgrace mister.

and how shallow can you get? do you think UP even cares if their students take the board exams or not? why would they limit their graduates just to make sure that everyone would pass the board? the major reason why we don't reach the numbers you are proposing is because we have to uplift the high standards we have set. either you meet those standards or you're out... and while we do have more than a hundred ECE freshmen every year, less than half are able to make it through the rigid screening effectively imposed by our undergrad subjects. we don't have the diploma mill that most other schools do when it comes to ECE. in our block, for example, we were 35 during our freshmen year but only 4 of us graduated last March --do you think UP stopped the other 31 from graduating because they might not pass the board exam? that's preposterous!

oh, and you are arguing that the papers we presented in the ECE conference were graduate papers? for your information, more than 90% of the 30+ presentations from UP were done by undergraduate students. now, i'm pretty sure that 90% of 30 is still way more than your 2 papers...

so, where ECE is concerned, by board exam passing percentage and by research output... you are definitely, the weaker link. goodbye!

[william_hayt_jr]

to Tom_Riddle and other UP people out there:
don't argue with those who can't understand. you'll never win.
they're not even in your level... aren't you tired of stooping down to these people?

[seav]

Some more information.

Only 43 students graduated BSECE from UP EEE in the second semester of last year (April 2001). Of those, 36 decided to take the board exams last November 2001 and all passed.

The department actually doesn't care if the graduates take the exam or not. They know that the graduates will excel in the field whether they take the exam or not. Besides, we all know that what is tested in the licensure exams is a far cry from what is taught to us in college.

So I really don't think you should base the quality of education on the board exam results. Some students just study enough to simply pass the exam. Whether you are a board topnotcher or just a 'sabit' you are given the same title: Engineer.

[berhnyfly]

Hey pips , i just wanna ask you. What's the best engineering school ine the country today? For you, what are the basis of excellence that can be used to judge the quality of engineering education being offered in a school?Share your thoughts naman.

[ahock]

mapua is the best

[redkix1]

MAPUA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY

[iskolar]

CHED Centers Of Excellence
ENGINEERING
*Data provided by Fernandita Calimlim, CHED Project Development Officer

CHEMICAL ENGINEERING
DE LA SALLE UNIVERSITY

ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING
UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES

ELECTRONICS AND COMMUNICATIONS ENGINEERING
DE LA SALLE UNIVERSITY
UNIVERSITY OF SANTO TOMAS

INDUSTRIAL ENGINEERING
UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES

MECHANICAL ENGINEERING
DE LA SALLE UNIVERSITY

METALLURGICAL ENGINEERING
UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES


Suma total:

UP - 3 centers of excellence
DLSU - 3 centers of excellence
UST - 1 centers of excellence
















:)

[Swatch]

here we go again.... i could see that berhnyfly is a newbie (feb 2002) at di ko siya masisisi if he/she post a topic similar to what we guys have fought before (furiously actually!).

Papatulan ko pa ba ito? Sige na nga...

Apat na unibersidad/kolehiyo lang sa bansa ako bumibilib sa pagtuturo ng inhenyeriya, in order of merit:

1. UP Diliman
2. UST
3. DLSU
4. Mapua

Mga Honorable mentions:
1. Don Bosco
2. PLM
3. SLU
4. University of San Carlos

Ciao!

[twelve_12]

La Sallian here...my choices are:

1. UP
2. DLSU
3. MIT

[Dominic Reyes]

DE LA SALLE UNIVERSITY!!!!!!!!

[EverAfter]

Well, my recent shot at romance (who left me for Thailand - bummer) attended the Mapua Institute of Technology and had a very high place in the ECE boards.

Sabi niya, magaling daw sa school niya. Biased ang g@go. :lol:

:spinstar:

[GreenGoblin]

In the context of which is the best engineering school in the Philippines, probably none?c Is there any school we can possibly say ?gGood?h and now why are we talking about the ?gBest?h?c Isn?ft it ironic?c

I?fm a graduate of one of the schools you are mentioning right now?c I?fm a little bit proud for where I came from but there?fs a lot more reservation. Maybe its an entire Pinoy culture not to be proud of themselves. Currently I?fm working in what they called ?gFirst World Country?h, though I?fm a ?gThird World Educated Engineer?h I would say, I have a competitive advantage, Why? ?ecoz I belong to those who graduates from a school which builds the character of an engineer?c So much for the CODs and COE?fs of DLSU, the Board Exams of MAPUA, and Highly credible exams of UP and the undermining History of UST?c But it all boils down to the graduate?c If you think your school can carry you on top, how pathetic you shall be!!! But if you think, you can maximize the little resources of your school to fit your needs, well in good, you have the real know how of an engineer.. Its not about the school, its about the graduate!!!

--Anyway, Im a Mapua-tech graduate?c
;) :cool:

[GreenGoblin]

Originally posted by berhnyfly
Hey pips , i just wanna ask you. What's the best engineering school ine the country today? For you, what are the basis of excellence that can be used to judge the quality of engineering education being offered in a school?Share your thoughts naman.

Basis of Excellence:

1. Research- the school which can offer the best research facility and tools would be a big factor.

2. Affiliations - in these times we can always say we have these and that, but without the support of the industry, all are in vain.

3. Faculty
4. Specialization


Just a simple comment on the COD's and COE's CHED is giving, definitely there are standards but are those standards reflect on what the industry needs right now...

Who sets the criteria?
A group of people who until now cannot convince Intel to build a wafer fab in the country...
who cannot convince investors that filipinos can do what malaysians, singaporeans and thais can do... Yes you heard me right, our neighbors are getting stronger and better... and now the chinese.

Where shall you place yourself fellow engineers... these are things we should ponder about... not to disgust each other by trying to prove which is the "BEST SCHOOL" When in FACT "THERES EVEN NO GOOD SCHOOL YET"

Don't try to say that engineers must be well rounded(as one UP Grad have said)... Its the entire opposite...YOU MUST BE SPECIALIZED to be competitive in the current statusquo... Thats why engineering discipline is divided into such fields because of the matter of specialization...

[escaflowne]

basta UST ang unang unang Center of Excellence sa Electronics and Communications Engineering

[berhnyfly]

Wow grabe ang dami na pala ang nagreact sa pinost ko na ito. Sorry ngayon lang ako nakapagsurf ulit. Well, it seems that the debate is between La salle and UP. La salle in terms of its facilities and UP with its quality education and instruction and of course with its bright students(kasama ba ko dun?). I'm an incoming 5th year BS ChE student from UP Diliman at masasabi ko na kailangan na ring iupgrade ang facilities sa Che Lab. Magtataas na nga ang tuition fee this coming June para maimprove ang mga ginagamit na chemicals and wares. Sabi nga ng prof ko sa thermo na super ganda talaga ng facilities sa La salle kaya nageexcel din sila pagdating sa ChE. Pero sa tingin ko mas magaling pa rin ang UP, especially in ChE kasi napanatili ang 100% passing rate except last year which broke the record. But i dont think maapektuhan nun ang quality of education sa UP. Basta ang alam ko ,resourceful ang mga Isko at Iska especially the engineering grads kasi nakakapagisip agad sila ng maraming paraan sa design ng mga products. That's my insight.

Berhny

[berhnyfly]

Wow grabe ang dami na pala ang nagreact sa pinost ko na ito. Sorry ngayon lang ako nakapagsurf ulit. Well, it seems that the debate is between La salle and UP. La salle in terms of its facilities and UP with its quality education and instruction and of course with its bright students(kasama ba ko dun?). I'm an incoming 5th year BS ChE student from UP Diliman at masasabi ko na kailangan na ring iupgrade ang facilities sa Che Lab. Magtataas na nga ang tuition fee this coming June para maimprove ang mga ginagamit na chemicals and wares. Sabi nga ng prof ko sa thermo na super ganda talaga ng facilities sa La salle kaya nageexcel din sila pagdating sa ChE. Pero sa tingin ko mas magaling pa rin ang UP, especially in ChE kasi napanatili ang 100% passing rate except last year which broke the record. But i dont think maapektuhan nun ang quality of education sa UP. Basta ang alam ko ,resourceful ang mga Isko at Iska especially the engineering grads kasi nakakapagisip agad sila ng maraming paraan sa design ng mga products. That's my insight.

Berhny

[Introvert_S]

I agree with you. Di ako ChE pero I hear na mejo kailangang i-upgrade ang facilities ng ChE.

What happened last year? Ilan ba raw ang di pumasa sa board? Sabi kasi ng kakilala ko from KEM, mejo naghigpit na raw ang ChE Dep ngayon dahil sa nangyari

[tekkies]

Holy Angel University in Angeles City , Pampanga

http://www.hau.edu.ph

[n3X]

Originally posted by mamords

UP Engineering facilities are not bad. We use Cadence in designing microchips. We have Suns and a Silicon Graphics. We have a wafer probe and logic analyzers. Our Comm engg lab is into microwave. It has spectrum and network analyzers. Our Software applications lab is into databases (used outside the university). Our Instrumentation, Robotics, and Control lab is into medical instrumentation. Our DSP-Texas Instruments Elite lab is the only one in the whole country. We teach DSP to the faculty of other engg schools. Most of our labs are open
24 hours a day. So if a bright idea hits you, you can go straght to the lab (of course, you have to be affiliated with the lab first).

Our Yamatake lab won the mobile robot race in the microcontroller design contest.

im not impressed with the board exams but we are hitting a 100% passing rate (if you insist on measuring the worth of an engg school through the board exams. im not impressed with it because all you have to do is answer multiple choice questions-pathetic!)

Best of all (La Salle will never top this), we have the best talent pool. Most science high grads go to UP. And the UPCAT, with the competition, it's like passing through the eye of a needle...

So tell me, what does La Salle have?

Dun sa question: PERA.

De La Salle University
COE
Chem Engg, ECE, Mech Engg

COD
Civil Engg, Industrial Engg

UP-Diliman
COE
EE, Geodetic Engg, Industrial Engg, Metallurical Engg

COD
Chem Engg, Civil Engg, Computer Engg, ECE, Mech Engg, Mining Engg

*Data provided by Fernandita Calimlim, CHED Project Development Officer

I would say that its UP. Yung sinasabi ng iba dito sa mga programs like Chem Engg, DLSU daw because COE sila and all. Pero i think hinihingi yung buong school, not a particular program. The UP Diliman College of Engineering offers a wide range of engineering programs, and sa nakuha kong data, karamihan ay Centers of Excellence and Development.

U-nibersidad ng Pilipinas :p

[bjaybrus]

ha?bakit wala ang Ateneo dito?pano ang management engineering?hindi ba sya big deal against all those top eng. courses?:D

[monsterboy]

Originally posted by bjaybrus
ha?bakit wala ang Ateneo dito?pano ang management engineering?hindi ba sya big deal against all those top eng. courses?:D

you may want to look up the thread that discusses the merits of management engg against industrial engg. ME students are quite admitted that management engg focuses more on the management issue, it utilizes the word "engineering" to emphasize the difficulty and analytic nature of the course.

about the ateneo and its engineering courses, i personally find the physics-computer engg fusion as a good combination. much of electrical engineering (to which com engg was derived from) relies on physics. maybe students/graduates of chem/ce would like to participate in this discussion. im quite curious how the two courses complement each other.



Wow grabe ang dami na pala ang nagreact sa pinost ko na ito. Sorry ngayon lang ako nakapagsurf ulit. Well, it seems that the debate is between La salle and UP. La salle in terms of its facilities and UP with its quality education and instruction and of course with its bright students(kasama ba ko dun?). I'm an incoming 5th year BS ChE student from UP Diliman at masasabi ko na kailangan na ring iupgrade ang facilities sa Che Lab. Magtataas na nga ang tuition fee this coming June para maimprove ang mga ginagamit na chemicals and wares. Sabi nga ng prof ko sa thermo na super ganda talaga ng facilities sa La salle kaya nageexcel din sila pagdating sa ChE. Pero sa tingin ko mas magaling pa rin ang UP, especially in ChE kasi napanatili ang 100% passing rate except last year which broke the record. But i dont think maapektuhan nun ang quality of education sa UP. Basta ang alam ko ,resourceful ang mga Isko at Iska especially the engineering grads kasi nakakapagisip agad sila ng maraming paraan sa design ng mga products. That's my insight.


hey, magtataas ang tuition fee this coming semester? at sino naman ang nag approve nyan? im not against it or anyuthing, i just dont think they informed the students properly. im not che, but i also think that the laboratories need a major make over. :lol: akala ko talaga bodega yung lab ninyo. laking gulat ko lang nung dinala ako dun ng kaibigtan ko na che. no offense meant, but it really did not look like a lab. *peace*

[wannababe]

Originally posted by jugger
Top Philippine Engineering schools?

DLSU-Manila, UP-Diliman & Mapua.

Ateneo? ABSENT.


time to say na mahiya ka naman!

remember, der r 5 ateneo skuls n d land and 2 of dis r excelling well, sa bagay ang pinapansin ninyo r skuls n metro manila and those ho r topnotchers but der skuls s very low passing percentage....................

her s d basis, from d report of PRC and CHED, 2 ateneo skuls r topnotchers of d bord exams....
released last march 2000 4 d period 1994-1998
1. ATENEO DE CAGAYAN-XAVIER UNIVERSITY
2.up-dil
3.Silliman University
4.ust
5.Ateneo de Davao
6.PLM
7.Mapua
8.CPU
9.St louis
10.MSU-marawi

sa engineering, i tel u ateneo de cagayan and ateneo de davao r consistently high passing percentage n bord exams.... get d latest
percentage..............
consistent **** na mataas ang passing percentage ng 2 ateneo skuls compare sa ader skuls, kaya naging #2 lang ang up-dil sa statistics n 1994-1998 d b?
i hop der wil b new statistics, yung latest ang dapat para magkaalaman na.......
ader skuls made to top n just 1 yr or 1 bord exam lang, hindi consistent... s dat a ryt 2 b concdr as 1 of d best?

[ann3]

hi peeps:) it seems na your all taking up Engg. courses (obvious ba?):p ..im a senior now and im planning to take up either chem. engineering or BS chem... jst wanna ask what's the diff between the two?

and btw... d ba halos mga lalaki ang kumukuha ng engineering? and masyado bang mahirap at sobrang daming math? pag chem engineering ba kinuha ko madami bang job opportunities? last question is it true na 5 yrs ang chem. engineering sa UP-diliman at sa DLSU 4 yrs ***? hope u guys will help me out here.. tnx in advance:cool:

[kris2003_pshs]

UP and UST.

[singabore]

It's funny that people still considers Mapua one of the best Engineering school in the Philippines. Mapua may "have been" the engineering school of the 80's but today..hello??!!! It's no doubt that its quality has nose-dived. The only thing that keeps it from staying alive is the reputation and its new found investor. This is one school that is sending out graduates in hoards.

I think UP, La Salle and UST offer the best engineering education today. Adamson is worth mentioning too - better than the much-hyped Mapua.

[Green_Balance]

DE LASALLE UNIVERSITY

Centers of Excellence
Mechanical Eng'g
Electronics and Communication Eng'g
Chemical Eng'g

Centers of Development
Civil Eng'g
Industrial Eng'g


UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES DILIMAN

Centers of Excellence
Electrical
Industrial
Metallurical
Geodetic

Centers of Development
ECE
CE
ME
CHE

UNIVERSITY OF SANTO TOMAS

Centers of Excellence
Electronics and Communication Eng'g

Centers of Development
Civil Eng'g
Chemical Eng'g
Industrial Eng'g
Electrical Eng'g
Mechanical Eng'g


*Data By ChED can be seen at Universitybelt.com and Ched site.

[bUbUbLuE]

mmmm??? UP and UST

As far as I know, most of the professors of DLSU's College of Eng'g are graduates of UST Faculty of Eng'g....

[criticguy]

recognized by CHED as center of excellence n d college of engineering......
1.UP-dilman
2.UST
3.DLSU-Manila
4.MSU-IIT

ader w/ 1 or more major....
1.CPU
2.Wesleyan Univ
3.Xavier Univ

[altair]

Originally posted by ann3
hi peeps:) it seems na your all taking up Engg. courses (obvious ba?):p ..im a senior now and im planning to take up either chem. engineering or BS chem... jst wanna ask what's the diff between the two?




BS Chem

You're going to study the science (Chemistry). Reactions are done in small scale (test tubes, beakers). You're going to search for the answers to the "why's".

BS Chemical Engg

You're going to apply the knowledge accumulated in Chemistry to real world problems. Reactions are done in commercial scale (big reaction columns, big tanks, big heat exchangers, basically, unit operations). Kinda empirical because there are a lot of variables that are difficult to capture in equations. You'll be dealing with a lot of empirical curves and tables. You're going to search for the answers to the "how's"

Originally posted by ann3

and btw... d ba halos mga lalaki ang kumukuha ng engineering? and masyado bang mahirap at sobrang daming math? pag chem engineering ba kinuha ko madami bang job opportunities? last question is it true na 5 yrs ang chem. engineering sa UP-diliman at sa DLSU 4 yrs ***? hope u guys will help me out here.. tnx in advance:cool:

The traditional fields (mech, elect) are dominated by males (in terms of population). But there are a lot of women in chem engg and computer engg and electronics and communications engineering (and they get to excel in these fields, a number of women had topped the eee dept of UP in the past few years).


Yeah, maraming Math, di naman masyadong mahirap, tiyaga lang, and you should have the passion for it.


Chem engg people usually land jobs in the oil refining industry (shell, caltex, petron), soap business (p&g, unilever), cosmetics (avon), geothermal industry (pgi, pnoc edc), oilfield services (schlumberger)

Yes, chem engg is a five year program in UP

[agent1611]

Originally posted by altair



BS Chem

You're going to study the science (Chemistry). Reactions are done in small scale (test tubes, beakers). You're going to search for the answers to the "why's".

BS Chemical Engg

You're going to apply the knowledge accumulated in Chemistry to real world problems. Reactions are done in commercial scale (big reaction columns, big tanks, big heat exchangers, basically, unit operations). Kinda empirical because there are a lot of variables that are difficult to capture in equations. You'll be dealing with a lot of empirical curves and tables. You're going to search for the answers to the "how's"



The traditional fields (mech, elect) are dominated by males (in terms of population). But there are a lot of women in chem engg and computer engg and electronics and communications engineering (and they get to excel in these fields, a number of women had topped the eee dept of UP in the past few years).


Yeah, maraming Math, di naman masyadong mahirap, tiyaga lang, and you should have the passion for it.


Chem engg people usually land jobs in the oil refining industry (shell, caltex, petron), soap business (p&g, unilever), cosmetics (avon), geothermal industry (pgi, pnoc edc), oilfield services (schlumberger)

Yes, chem engg is a five year program in UP


Chem Eng'g is a 5 year program in almost all schools!who offer this major!

topping the board exams is more on luck and analytical skills retained but no one can claim monopoly on this because if you are to see the records of the PRC UST also has it's own share of glory in terms of topping the board.

UP Diliman graduates usually have a 100% passing because their population is small in the first place. UP quality is far better because teachers can focus on their students,however,we cannot say that the other schools are inferior to them because records usually bail them out. UST-ECE(for example) are in the 50-100 category because this are the usual number of graduates we produce, when you compare faculty resources UST-ECE also bears a competitive edge with 10 or more faculty member in the majors having obtained a masters degree in MIT-USA, princeton and the likes... when it comes to resources again we can say that we're not behind with philips,Intel,sony,acer and other electronics company providing ample help; I think these are the major reasons why UST-ECE is given a COE status by Ched.

Personally I still believe that UP Diliman maintains a high quality of engineering education but DLSU and UST are not far behind.

[agent1611]

Originally posted by Green_Balance
DE LASALLE UNIVERSITY

Centers of Excellence
Mechanical Eng'g
Electronics and Communication Eng'g
Chemical Eng'g

Centers of Development
Civil Eng'g
Industrial Eng'g


UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES DILIMAN

Centers of Excellence
Electrical
Industrial
Metallurical
Geodetic

Centers of Development
ECE
CE
ME
CHE

UNIVERSITY OF SANTO TOMAS

Centers of Excellence
Electronics and Communication Eng'g

Centers of Development
Civil Eng'g
Chemical Eng'g
Industrial Eng'g
Electrical Eng'g
Mechanical Eng'g


*Data By ChED can be seen at Universitybelt.com and Ched site.

[Dominic Reyes]

DE LA SALLE UNIVERSITY!

ANIMO LA SALLE!

[eclair]

syempre depende sa course yan.
Pero kung yung college of engineering mismo, syempre UP pa rin.
maglasalle ka kung gusto mo alagang-alaga ka. Yung walang kahirap-hirap kang ipapasa. Spoonfeeding.
Sa UP, survival of the fittest, kaya honored ka kung up eng'g grad ka, lalo na kung on time graduation mo. :)

[AbulugAdventure]

UP = Elec'l
DLSU and UST = ECE

[monsterboy]

Originally posted by AbulugAdventure
UP = Elec'l


really? why do you think so?

[scoobydoobydoo]

i agree to agent1611 but you missed one school and that's mapua. Mapua was the number 1 school when it comes to engineering during the 1950's until 1980's together with their rivalry feati!

but today, it is now a different story. Im not saying that mapua is not good anymore. Im just emphasizing that many schools and universities had bloomed out and achieved a center of excellence!!!

1. UP and DLSU
2. MAPUA and UST

Almost all of the engineering courses in DLSU already achieved the Center of Excellence!!! Off course, UP is on the list. UP is our State's University. Followed by the best private school, DLSU. And then ADMU and UST.

Let's stop bashing. Let's accept the fact that UP is number 1, DLSU is number 2, AMDU is number 3, and UST is number 4.

Off course, these 4 big universities have their own specialties.

Okay!!!

Stop bashing!!!

UP Fight!!! Animo Lasalle!!! One BIg Fight!!! Go USTe!!!

Viva to all schools!!!

[cutegirl2002]

Originally posted by scoobydoobydoo
i agree to agent1611 but you missed one school and that's mapua. Mapua was the number 1 school when it comes to engineering during the 1950's until 1980's together with their rivalry feati!

but today, it is now a different story. Im not saying that mapua is not good anymore. Im just emphasizing that many schools and universities had bloomed out and achieved a center of excellence!!!

1. UP and DLSU
2. MAPUA and UST

Almost all of the engineering courses in DLSU already achieved the Center of Excellence!!! Off course, UP is on the list. UP is our State's University. Followed by the best private school, DLSU. And then ADMU and UST.

Let's stop bashing. Let's accept the fact that UP is number 1, DLSU is number 2, AMDU is number 3, and UST is number 4.

Off course, these 4 big universities have their own specialties.

Okay!!!

Stop bashing!!!

UP Fight!!! Animo Lasalle!!! One BIg Fight!!! Go USTe!!!

Viva to all schools!!!


ano kaya basis mo ranking 1,2,3,4 ng mga schools?

you want the real PUBLIC PERCEPTION???????

up/ATENEO are on the list.................

nakapunta ka na ba ng mindanao?

how about visayas?

people from sultan kudarat?

from cebu?

from camiguin?

from davao?

from butuan?

from surigao?

from bukidnon?

from cotabato?

from iligan?

from marawi?

from iloilo?

how about...............

students from University of san jose recoletos?

from cebu normal university?

from Pilar college?

from holy cross of davao college?

from notre dame of marbel university?

from UP-visayas?

from Mindanao State University?

from La Salle Academy?

from ICC-la salle?

................................

ito lang ang masasabi ko,

baguhin ninyo nag repuatation taga-la salle.............

dahil mapapahiya kayo sa provinces............

all the places I mentioned and all the schools I mentioned.....

ay may dapat sana ako ishare..................

if i-compare natin ang la salle sa UP/Ateneo.............

gusto nyo isa-isahin ko..............

yan ang PUBLIC PERCEPTION.............

it takes............. century or millenium, bago mabura....

kaya mga la sallian........... ingat.........

not to mention na kaibigan ko pala mula sa DLSU nagturo sa akin about PEX.........

kaya sisihin nyo sya............

he's a computer science student..............

want 2 know his name?

[redkix1]

R U MAD???????

[chemit_guy]

Personally I chose La Salle dahil nga graduate ako ng chemical engineering ng La Salle. Tsaka iyong nagsasabi na alagang alaga kami na madaling pumasa nagkakamali kayo. naghirap po ako para maka-graduate and ilang gabi rin akong di natulog para sa mga exams and projects namin. we even top the board exam last time. we got the 1st, 2nd and 4th place. so sana walang siraan ng school.

But all i can say is nasa tao iyan. Oo nga magaling school mo pero tamad ka naman, paano makikilala school niyo if tamad estudyante. What it matters eh tapusin ang pag-aaaral. trust me kahit saan ka man galing school, basta ok grades niyo, makakapasok kayo ng magandang trabaho.