Who's better in terms of leadership? TAPAT o Santugon?

[wagkana!]

Ano dlsu guys, who's better in terms of leadership? Post naman kayo diyan!

[Wholesome]

Tapat!

Just check the History of the SC and DLSU.

Tapat leaders are the effective leaders. They don't just give us what we want, they also give us what we need.

[stonehenge]

Tapat!

We don't just make people run for SC. We make them Effective Leaders, then we make them run.

[d_a_z_z_y]

to be honest... there are good and not so-good leaders from both parties.

[Masyadong malaki dear, tagal mag-load. Hope you understand. :)]


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[super blok blok]

Tapat eh?!!
who had most SC Presidents impeached?

Actually it's not a question of to which party they belong, it's a question on how they became efficient during their term...
***** ang di mag-agree dito!

[Wholesome]

Originally posted by super blok blok:
Tapat eh?!!
who had most SC Presidents impeached?

Actually it's not a question of to which party they belong, it's a question on how they became efficient during their term...
***** ang di mag-agree dito!



instead of criticizing Tapat leaders, why don't you give some concrete examples on how efficient santugon leaders are, can you? I don't think so...

take note:
Efficient - performing effectively with the least waste of time and effort. Causative.

[mark_mark]

sorry di ako makarelate http://www.pinoyexchange.com/crying.gif what is tapat? santugon? http://www.pinoyexchange.com/lol.gif

[AKO SI JOLINA M... MALAKI]

TINATANONG PA BA YAN! E DI KUNG SAANG PARTIDO AKO GALING!

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[gorgeous babe]

Originally posted by AKO SI JOLINA M... MALAKI:
TINATANONG PA BA YAN! E DI KUNG SAANG PARTIDO AKO GALING!

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Eh di syempre ALYANSANG TAPAT SA LA SALLISTA!

[sister]

Sino ba ang DAPAT?......Ano ang DAPAT?
Dapat ang LEADERS natin principled, pioneering, professional and persona and that is that!PEACE!

angel

[SANA-Founder]

Originally posted by d_a_z_z_y:
to be honest... there are good and not so-good leaders from both parties.


In TAPAT , there are only few who are not-so-good leaders. But TAPAT CORE are always there to support them . Some are good...Others are better....But most of them are the best..... :cool:

d_a_z_z_y, I know na u did ur job 2 years ago sa CCS. It's just that people in ur party differs from what we believe. We are TAPAT leaders aiming to have a just and free society.



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[introverted]

Originally posted by Wholesome:
instead of criticizing Tapat leaders, why don't you give some concrete examples on how efficient santugon leaders are, can you? I don't think so...


Wow! Defensive ka kaagad ah!!! umiiwas ka kaagad e.... Why not defend your So called TAPAT leaders first diba?! Hopeless na ba!? :D

[mona]

no comment. :)

[king taught]

Originally posted by introverted:
Wow! Defensive ka kaagad ah!!! umiiwas ka kaagad e.... Why not defend your So called TAPAT leaders first diba?! Hopeless na ba!? :D



before you judge others... try to look at yourself first.

we are not defensive... :)

we're just pointing out what you should look at first. http://www.pinoyexchange.com/nerd.gif

y? have yu looked at the mirror lately??? :confused:

[crispypata]

no comment.

[kenny_bugs]

hay naku! wag nga kyo masyadong humble http://www.pinoyexchange.com/bop.gif
do it, don't say it! http://www.pinoyexchange.com/angel.gif

[gwaping]

Originally posted by super blok blok:
Actually it's not a question of to which party they belong, it's a question on how they became efficient during their term...
***** ang di mag-agree dito!



I agree with you one hundred percent, man. In the final analysis, it's not really gonna matter which party you came from. It's who you are. It's what you did, how you contributed to the Student Council during your term that ultimately counts.


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[sabotahe]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by gwaping:
[B] I agree with you one hundred percent, man. In the final analysis, it's not really gonna matter which party you came from. It's who you are. It's what you did, how you contributed to the Student Council during your term that ultimately counts.[B]


i have to agree with this too. for me, leaders were already leaders ever since they were born. the moment they were interested in running for office already made them a leader.

[super blok blok]

Originally posted by SANA-Founder:
Originally posted by d_a_z_z_y:
to be honest... there are good and not so-good leaders from both parties.


In TAPAT , there are only few who are not-so-good leaders. But TAPAT CORE are always there to support them . Some are good...Others are better....But most of them are the best..... :cool:

d_a_z_z_y, I know na u did ur job 2 years ago sa CCS. It's just that people in ur party differs from what we believe. We are TAPAT leaders aiming to have a just and free society.



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Hu told u na konti lang ang ineficient leaders nyo?

Hu are u to count?.....di ko naman sinasabing marami pero lets not brag about something which we cant prove, only the students themselves can say that their leaders are imeffiicient. kasi sila ang nakakafeel ng service....
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Peace to all of you!!!!
:)

[super blok blok]

Originally posted by gwaping:
I agree with you one hundred percent, man. In the final analysis, it's not really gonna matter which party you came from. It's who you are. It's what you did, how you contributed to the Student Council during your term that ultimately counts.


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salamat at may nag-agree sa akin....r u from fast99?

[zorneehk]

to all of you, why bother comparing. honestly, it is like comparing apples with bananas. both of them are fruits but each has its distinct characteristics and taste.

[blue_raver]

yupyup!! Kami fresh apple(TAPAT) sila bulok na saging! mwahahahah!! joke! http://www.pinoyexchange.com/lol.gif

[ben cabigas]

hoy blue raver! easy lang sa mga hirit! baka pasubuin nila sayo yung bulok nilang saging!! hehe. mga taga south talaga, oo.

[introverted]

tsk tsk
Ben, tama na pagiging bitter...
Pati mga taga-south dinadamay mo...

[koljack]

Its not Tapat but I'm not saying its 2gon.

I still say that it is those who can work efficiently and is not dictated by anyother party other than tghe students.

Tigilan nyo na yung mga kalokohan nyo na gagamitin ang history ng SC blah blah...

in my 3 years sa SC I can can only count them using my 2 hands...

Its not under the leadership of a person coming from one party (actually minsan pa nga, he/she simply gets the credit of other people's work) its actually the teamwork behind an undertaking.

[Cronides]

I had been an avid fan of schoolwars and other channels where people try so hard to defend something they believe in to the point of maligning individuals and institutions. But now I consider all of them a BIG WASTE OF TIME :( ! It's good that I got exposed to all of those trash cause I learned to value objective reasoning minus the invectives and comments arising out of emotional outbursts. Eversince, I became hesitant to post in threads like these kasi medyo mababaw madalas ang pinupuntahan. To some extent, I have to admit that I do love comparing and throwing my stones in defense of my party. Pero nakakasawa rin! Hindi ko sinasabing lahat ng tao rito mababaw. I feel that the reason why I said that is because a big number of posters are only freshmen, eh hindi pa sila masyado keen at looking beyond the surface. That's understandable. Pero to those new at posting, I encourage you to read other threads. Crispy Pata, Chad, [INSIDER], vertigo, and yung mga ibang members na are good posters. I'm not saying I'm good but I learned quite a lot from these people, and you might too.

:) ;) :)

PEACE!

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[crispypata]

Originally posted by Cronides:
I had been an avid fan of schoolwars and other channels where people try so hard to defend something they believe in to the point of maligning individuals and institutions. But now I consider all of them a BIG WASTE OF TIME :( ! It's good that I got exposed to all of those trash cause I learned to value objective reasoning minus the invectives and comments arising out of emotional outbursts. Eversince, I became hesitant to post in threads like these kasi medyo mababaw madalas ang pinupuntahan. To some extent, I have to admit that I do love comparing and throwing my stones in defense of my party. Pero nakakasawa rin! Hindi ko sinasabing lahat ng tao rito mababaw. I feel that the reason why I said that is because a big number of posters are only freshmen, eh hindi pa sila masyado keen at looking beyond the surface. That's understandable. Pero to those new at posting, I encourage you to read other threads. Crispy Pata, Chad, [INSIDER], vertigo, and yung mga ibang members na are good posters. I'm not saying I'm good but I learned quite a lot from these people, and you might too.

:) ;) :)

PEACE!



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[jopert]

sa totoo lang wala na akong tiwala sa dalawang partido na yun e. sana may mag emerge na pangatlong partido para magkaroon ng mas maraming magagaking na kandidato.

[wagkana!]

Originally posted by jopert:
sa totoo lang wala na akong tiwala sa dalawang partido na yun e. sana may mag emerge na pangatlong partido para magkaroon ng mas maraming magagaking na kandidato.

In my opinion, medyo mahirap magkaroon ng pangatlong party.

I know for a fact na nahihirapan maghanap ang dalawang partido ng tatakbo, pano pa kaya kung tatlo ito.

Madalas nga kulang ang line-up nila...

[jopert]

Your right wagkana! Masyado kasi silang nagiging totoong politicians e. Puro pangakong napapako.

[strike14344]

blue raver.... sigurado ka bang fresh apple ka? baka mamaya hindi mo pa namamalayan na sa loob nabubulok ka na... tama si ben hinay hinay lang baka masubuan kayo ng bulok na saging ....

ben tama si introverted... wag mo naman idamay ang mga taga south..... baka ikaw rin masubuan ng bulok na saging

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[Tbone]

man, i think belonging to a political party is important, too. not too many students realize this though. it's the political parties which shapes the values and principles of the candidates. so how they work in the office will reflect the banner under which they ran. unless political parties doesn't train them enough, or doesn't train them at all, which is baaad! leadership skills are important, but not enough. maybe in orgs such as those in cso, they are enough. but principles are what makes you efficient in a unit such as the student council.

if you have none, then you ran under a political party just to win a position, but you don't believe in the vision of your party at all. if that's the case, i suggest these people run independently and not use the resources of both parties. that's sad man! i almost ran under santugon, until i found out how they recruit and train the candidates... no offense. hindi naman ako nanira or nag-run under the other party.

by the way, i know about the pro-student, pro-people thing of tapat. i respect and i agree with that belief of theirs. mas maganda siguro kung in action. what about santugon? may i know?


Originally posted by gwaping
[quote]Originally posted by super blok blok:
Actually it's not a question of to which party they belong, it's a question on how they became efficient during their term...
***** ang di mag-agree dito!



I agree with you one hundred percent, man. In the final analysis, it's not really gonna matter which party you came from. It's who you are. It's what you did, how you contributed to the Student Council during your term that ultimately counts.

[crispypata]

Mag-COMELEC na lang tayo!

[sabotahe]

Originally posted by crispypata
Mag-COMELEC na lang tayo!

hehe. tama ka dyan! :D

[kesler]

Originally posted by Tbone
by the way, i know about the pro-student, pro-people thing of tapat. i respect and i agree with that belief of theirs. mas maganda siguro kung in action. what about santugon? may i know?


I am not speaking for Santugon nor am I speaking for my party mates. My personal opinion regarding the "Pro-student Pro-people" thing is, it is good and Santugon also has her own set of principles...but let me just remind the people of the possible repercussions of such a slogan. We are a democracy not a mob democracy. Magalit na ang magalit but we can not always move towards what the students want especially when its sounds unreasonable. Eh kung ganun nalang kung magpapakagrally ako ng at least half of the student population to ask for...let us say **** to jump from the 3rd floor of LS...being pro-student pro-people should s/he jump?

[Chad]

No comment. :D

:bop:
Chad

[nyeta!]

magmalinis na ang mga gustong magmalinis, at magtanga-tangahan na ang gustong magmukhang malinis...

there was a post about, things not being about the party ...and i belive in that.

there was a post that there are good and rotten ones in every party...and i believe in that.

there was a post re: talking about effective leadership is ...and i believe this should really be the case

there was a response about who causes delay...and i believe this is relative. Relative in the semse that, people argue that by raising concerns, you cause delay in the sc functions...THATS SO DUMBo!

hay naku, ano ba to, political ad? malayo pa elections! (ooops, sorry ha, many are into rasing political adban....hehehe)

ano? galit kayo sakin? ganun talaga? nonetheless, i believe na SC matters is and should not be about political parties...and I can't tolerate people who use the sc for political purposes lang. Ano ba tayo talga, a mere reflection of a rotten political system in our society?

SANTUGON calls for change, for dynamism
TAPAT talks of the Salmon, brave and strong never fearing to face the odds

the questions are quite simple, WHEN WE GO FOR CHANGE, are we talking about CHANGE FOR THE BETTER? WHEN WE GO AGAINST THE OODS, the way the salmon does, ARE WE GOING AGAINSTA STUPID SYSTEM OR ARE WE AGAINST A SYSTEM OF ORDER and JUSTICE.

in 1850, HEnry Clay said, "Sir, I would rather be right than be the President."

Why is it hard to uphold the truth. Maybe, and this is feel is the reason behind things, we are already in a system where there has been great abuses of trust and respect, of ideals and morals.

And to think we are lasallians.

btw, I welcome your curses and violent reactions.

God, have mercy on the system!