What can the Top 4 Philippine Universities(UP,La Salle,Ateneo & UST) do to improve

[mtpipina]

What can the Top 4 Philippine Universities - UP-Diliman, La Salle, Ateneo & UST do to further improve their Asian rankings?

[_Mase_]

The most important thing that the top four schools can do now is to form a school-based interaction--helping each other out, exchanging ideas, formulating new ways for the betterment of Philippine education (whici in my opinion is getting worse).

All the top Ivy League schools in the US have some sort of coop between them. Why can't we do that here?

[luya_9]

im just wondering y ua&p was not mentioned?!?

[rors]

maybe because UA&P is relatively new. but i'd like to think it's starting to kick

[Willie Tang]

Maybe these universities ought to learn from each other. Like UP learning from De La Salle its no frat poliscy. Or Ateneo learning from UST the number of digits of enrollment fees...;-).

[alcuazas]

The University of Asia & the Pacific(UA&P) is not in the Asiaweek Top 77 Asian Universities List.

Only Four Philippine Universities are in the Top 77 namely: UP-Diliman(No. 48),DLSU-Manila(No. 71), Ateneo(No. 72) & UST(No. 74).

For UP-Diliman since its evident that despite its annual P 10 Billion subsidy from the Philippine Government , it is NEVER enough - maybe its about time it raises its ridiculously low Tuition Fees.

Quality college education costs a big deal of money so if UP only relys on its annual doleout from the Philippine government then its present outmoded equipment & facilities would continue to deteriorate and so would its current Asian ranking.

[TNT2bluz]

here's one:

How about have their students grow a brain on their own?

[shark]

hahaha TNT2bluz

hmmmmmmm.......the top 4 schools should look into character and moral development programs for their students so they would not act like TNT2bluz :) seriously speaking here.....

[jayveeesq20]

The Philippine Top 4 (UP, La Salle, Ateneo & UST) are doing their best to improve.

I just hope the rest of the Philippine Universities do something to improve.

[Michael_Corderi]

Note: The University of the Philippines is a PUBLIC EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION. IT IS THE GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSIBILITY TO ALLOT SUBSIDY TO U.P. AND OTHER STATE-RUN EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS....kaya sa isang taga-UA&P dyan, hindi puwede na basta na lang itaas ang tuition ng UP coz not all UP studs are rich like you people are...isa pa, ba't ba ang kikitid ng uatk nyo...kagaya kayo ng isang senador dyan, "The State University caters more to the rich than to the poor...." ---->; HINDI KA DAPAT NAGING PUBLIC SERVANT KUNG NAPAKAKITID NG UTAK MO!


And about cooperation between UP,DLSU, ADMU and UST? It is possible. The things that they need to improve. For UP, its to heighten their standards and to be, at least, bette-equipped. And for DLSU and ADMU, to scrap their "coñotic" and "for the rich people only" image...and para sa UST, wag na sanang bahain ang España!

[mark_mark]

me myself i was bothered by the results of the survey.
i actually do not believe in them but a survey coming
from Asiaweek has a sound. i guess it is about time that the Ateneo
administration make necessary changes in its systems. we
do not know what went wrong. i still love my school.

[ollagram_12]

i agree with you mark_mark. I hope the restructuring pays off.

[imogen]

oo magtulungan na lang, wag na mag asaran.

UP is subsidized by the government, ang buwis ng mga tao nag nagpapaaral sa min. so dapat lang na bigyan kami ng budget....

[inihaw]

well i think the four schools should learn from each other. if a school ever committed a mistake, other schools should try to avoid it. <;whtever that mistake will be>; :) kailangan lang to improve is to learn from your mistake diba. and another thing these schools should have a harmonic relationship and we can start this "harmonic relationship" that i am talking abt by not having "school wars". di dapat siraan ang ibang school. we can show our devotion to our very own alma maters in other ways. rather than saying bad things abt other schools. diba! kaya magmahalan tayong lahat! http://www.pinoyexchange.com/angel.gif

[Fernando Sarmenta]

Lets build Network and not Walls;
Lets not Consume Each Other lets HELP one another!
Let us inspire the other schools so that philippine education can get something in return, and improve to a level more acceptable than now! beneficial for our Country, the World and to US!

Para matulungan naman natin ang Pilipinas its not turning for the better but sinking to what we may call oblivion of poverty and unjust human level!

Masarap siguro kung di lang Apat pero maraming Philippine institutions ang makilala para the MASA will get the share of Wealth that they have long been longin for! pero i think our generation will not see this! because ours need to do the toil that generations of the past had forgotten to work on!

Sana para we can all be proud to be Filipino! di kagaya ngayon!

[rqgepilanno75]

I hope to see the day that the other Philippine Universities like UE, FEU, Adamson, NU, Miriam, Assumption, PUP, TIP, Letran, San Beda, Lyceum, Mapua, etc. can enter the Asian Top 77 Universities List.

[cally]

You're right. There's a great need for the top universities to put their heads together and cooperate to improve the lamentable state of Phil. education. Dapat maging mas bukas na sila na magturo ang isang teacher sa iba pang school. Kahit pa survey-survey lang 'yan, may basehan din 'yan.
In the case of the Ateneo, a LOT of improvement has to be done and thank goodness they've started it. They raised the salary of teachers beginning last April and they're starting an IT building this August (daw). And I hope that it will maintain, if not improve, its quality of education despite the growing no. of students.

[Light&Easy]

Ateneo can Fly Back!...
UST can Roar On!...
DLSU can Shoot More!...
UP Can Shines More!...

Pero anong kwenta kong we dont see development& culture change in this country!.... Fernando Sarmenta was right!... it will be more satisfying if we can see more philippine schools! in the list!....

Building Network needs a lot of work specially if other school are only keen on making themselves superior kesa gawing superior lahat! para maraming Makinabang!...

Light!

[banxxx]

ipagawa yung tulo ng mga bubong. tag-ulan na e. sa ches plaza pa lang papuntang gym dami ng tulo. grabe. hope la salle cud fix this.

[elijah]

kailangan ng...

...U.P. ang mas malaking budget...

...Ateneo ng mas extensive na course-offerings...

...ng mahal kong eskwelahan ang U.S.T. ng medyo malaking pasahod sa mga propesor para hindi na ma-pirate ng ibang eskwelahan...

...La Salle ang kahalagahan ng pagiging simple,at ang kahalagahan ng kahulugan ng pagiging humble...



[This message has been edited by elijah (edited 07-06-2000).]

[roosevelt69]

Originally posted by elijah:
kailangan ng...

...La Salle ang kahalagahan ng pagiging simple,at hindi pagiging masyadong 'loud' sa mga achievements...


lahat naman tayo dito sa pex "loud" about our achievements...lahat guilty sa pagiging mayabang... hindi naman parati pero malimit...

pero tama ka 'bout UST dahil lagi na lang na-pipirate yung mga grads na magturo sa ibang school...

[elijah]

Originally posted by roosevelt69:
pero tama ka 'bout UST dahil lagi na lang na-pipirate yung mga grads na magturo sa ibang school...



Ay sobra! Hay nako-imagine for example the chairmen and women of the creative writing centers of the different schools,may isa o halos lahat galing satin.

nakakahabag... :(

[antonn]

mtpipina:

I guess the question should rather be "what should the OTHER Philippine universities do to improve".

The Top 4 Philippine universities are notches better than the rest of the Philippine universities.

[wanpei]

my school (LaSalle) could use more lots, have more trees and benches to hang out at (we're soooo congested!), lower the cafeteria prices (my goodness), and above all SHOW SOME SCHOOL SPIRIT DAMMIT!

[Labamba]

bump

[Thoma§]

You know what these 4 top schools can do for this country? They can all stop the bashing and chiding; then work for the betterment of the academe in general. Before trying to be among the best in Asia, leave a legacy to this country first. The soil that gave life to these institutions.

These schools are powerful institutions, the oldest and the best actually. No doubt about that. Unfortunately because of them, problems arise too. Seeing only "competition" as the main ingredient for success, PEX in particular has seen how these schools set the atmosphere in enmity. Witty exchange of words, subtle defiling, pretensions, apparent tarnishing of school names, feigning achievements, and most of all the neverending tale of stereotyping. All these contribute to further division, fostering negativity and you know what? Nothing happens.

If you're intelligent enough, I know you'll digest the gist of what that paragraph means.

Being the pillars, the potentialities are endless. Its simply us who can make the real wonders of the academe come alive for everyone! :)

[PRINCE_WILLIAM]

UP has been there. Done that…
What UP needs right now is to partner with its equal peers abroad not with some cheap schools based locally. For example, UP and U of Tokyo, UP and Harvard or UP and Cambridge…
Pag UP and ADMU or UP and UST, walang dating ito sa UP. Baka nga nanakawin lang nila ang mga magagaling na profs ng UP or ko-kopyahin ang researches ng mga UP scientists. Mahirap makipag-collaborate sa mga third-tier universities na walang experienced sa malawakang researches. Hindi ito pabor sa UP, pabor ito sa mga gustong dumikit sa UP. Pero, pwede nilang bayaran ang UP para payagan silang dumikit nito…

[palikpik]

Originally posted by Thoma§
You know what these 4 top schools can do for this country? They can all stop the bashing and chiding; then work for the betterment of the academe in general. Before trying to be among the best in Asia, leave a legacy to this country first. The soil that gave life to these institutions.

These schools are powerful institutions, the oldest and the best actually. No doubt about that. Unfortunately because of them, problems arise too. Seeing only "competition" as the main ingredient for success, PEX in particular has seen how these schools set the atmosphere in enmity. Witty exchange of words, subtle defiling, pretensions, apparent tarnishing of school names, feigning achievements, and most of all the neverending tale of stereotyping. All these contribute to further division, fostering negativity and you know what? Nothing happens.

If you're intelligent enough, I know you'll digest the gist of what that paragraph means.

Being the pillars, the potentialities are endless. Its simply us who can make the real wonders of the academe come alive for everyone! :)

sense of proportion, hijo. walang kinalaman ang bashing sa pex sa mga problemang iniinda ng academe o ng pamayanan, if you want to stretch it.

halimbawa, kung pexer man ang walang kwentang taga-up (meron ba otherwise) na si WIMPy fuentebella, i am sure he will the paragon of everything sweet and nice and gay here. pero naman, tignan mo ang ginagawa nya sa totoong buhay.

in a similar light, ateneo will continue to be head and shoulders above the rest in spite of, and if it wants to, even because of bashings in any forum at any level.

may padigest-digest the gist ka pang nalalaman... taga saan ka nga ba?

[Ultra_MegaStar]

Ateneo has already started the collaboration process with international educational institutions. Ateneo already has the benefit of the Jesuit's vast international network of institutions, among others.

UP, on the other hand, does not have the resources nor the network. It's dependent on our government for its budget. There's very limited upside for UP. Beggars can be choosers. Neither can they be relied upon to lead. The future is dim.

Ateneo, DLSU and UST as private institutions with global networks of their own have more upside potential. They can collaborate amongst themselves as well as with their international counterparts.

[XetraDAX]

Marami na ring international linkages ang DLSU.

Sa tingin ko ganun na rin sa UST and ADMU.

[mac_bolan00]

Originally posted by Ultra_MegaStar
Ateneo has already started the collaboration process with international educational institutions. Ateneo already has the benefit of the Jesuit's vast international network of institutions, among others.

UP, on the other hand, does not have the resources nor the network. It's dependent on our government for its budget. There's very limited upside for UP. Beggars can be choosers. Neither can they be relied upon to lead. The future is dim.


name one jesuit-run school that's rated #1 in north america. how about in europe? forget the philippines, we know all about that one.

research institutions. how many jesuits have won a nobel in the last 70 years? are there any?

[Thoma§]

Originally posted by palikpik
sense of proportion, hijo. walang kinalaman ang bashing sa pex sa mga problemang iniinda ng academe o ng pamayanan, if you want to stretch it.

halimbawa, kung pexer man ang walang kwentang taga-up (meron ba otherwise) na si WIMPy fuentebella, i am sure he will the paragon of everything sweet and nice and gay here. pero naman, tignan mo ang ginagawa nya sa totoong buhay.

in a similar light, ateneo will continue to be head and shoulders above the rest in spite of, and if it wants to, even because of bashings in any forum at any level.

may padigest-digest the gist ka pang nalalaman... taga saan ka nga ba?
That's why I limited my example. "PEX in particular" :)

[grinchblood]

Originally posted by _Mase_
The most important thing that the top four schools can do now is to form a school-based interaction--helping each other out, exchanging ideas, formulating new ways for the betterment of Philippine education (whici in my opinion is getting worse).

All the top Ivy League schools in the US have some sort of coop between them. Why can't we do that here?

They've been doing this, believe me. In fact, DLSU-Manila agreed to educate Atenean professors for their graduate studies thru a Memorandum of Agreement, among others.

[Greener_Manure]

Originally posted by grinchblood
They've been doing this, believe me. In fact, DLSU-Manila agreed to educate Atenean professors for their graduate studies thru a Memorandum of Agreement, among others.

Just a clarification. DLSU-Manila is helping Ateneo de Zamboanga (not ADMU) in the field of linquistics. ADMU does not offer linguistics.

ADMU also helps DLSU-Manila in its PhD programs in Mathematics and Chemistry.

There's plenty of reciprocity between these two schools.

ADMU and DLSU are also partners, together with Harvard, in the Asian Institute of Management, the best business school in the Philippines, bar none.

[rsgubank]

Originally posted by Greener_Manure
Just a clarification. DLSU-Manila is helping Ateneo de Zamboanga (not ADMU) in the field of linquistics. ADMU does not offer linguistics.

ADMU also helps DLSU-Manila in its PhD programs in Mathematics and Chemistry.

There's plenty of reciprocity between these two schools.

ADMU and DLSU are also partners, together with Harvard, in the Asian Institute of Management, the best business school in the Philippines, bar none.

Correction too:

ADMU does not actually provide direct assistance to DLSU in the programs of Mathematics and Chemistry because the latter can stand on its own. What it has is a consortium agreement with DLSU and UP-Diliman in the areas of faculty exchange in the sciences (Chemistry, Math and Physics). Both Ateneo and La Salle also have a tie-up with Philippine Normal University in the areas of elementary education majoring in the sciences and in the field of Linguistics.

[mac_bolan00]

thank goodness UP doesn't have to tie-up with other local schools to survive. :lol:

[meyrs17]

Originally posted by Thoma§
You know what these 4 top schools can do for this country? They can all stop the bashing and chiding; then work for the betterment of the academe in general. Before trying to be among the best in Asia, leave a legacy to this country first. The soil that gave life to these institutions.

These schools are powerful institutions, the oldest and the best actually. No doubt about that. Unfortunately because of them, problems arise too. Seeing only "competition" as the main ingredient for success, PEX in particular has seen how these schools set the atmosphere in enmity. Witty exchange of words, subtle defiling, pretensions, apparent tarnishing of school names, feigning achievements, and most of all the neverending tale of stereotyping. All these contribute to further division, fostering negativity and you know what? Nothing happens.

If you're intelligent enough, I know you'll digest the gist of what that paragraph means.

Being the pillars, the potentialities are endless. Its simply us who can make the real wonders of the academe come alive for everyone! :)


i guess bashing helps a lot... it brings out the best in every university...

[PRINCE_WILLIAM]

Originally posted by Ultra_MegaStar
Ateneo has already started the collaboration process with international educational institutions. Ateneo already has the benefit of the Jesuit's vast international network of institutions, among others.

UP, on the other hand, does not have the resources nor the network. It's dependent on our government for its budget. There's very limited upside for UP. Beggars can be choosers. Neither can they be relied upon to lead. The future is dim.

Ateneo, DLSU and UST as private institutions with global networks of their own have more upside potential. They can collaborate amongst themselves as well as with their international counterparts.

Oh, yeah??!
Then check this out, duh!



The ASSOCIATION OF PACIFIC RIM UNIVERSITIES:

Objectives

The Association of Pacific Rim Universities (APRU) is a consortium of 36 leading universities from 16 economies in the Pacific Rim. Formed in 1997, it aims to foster cooperation in education, research and enterprise thereby contributing to the economic, scientific and cultural advancement of Pacific Rim economies.
Structure and Organization

Member institutions are represented in APRU by their Presidents who meet annually to develop strategy and review APRU programs and initiatives. The Chairman of APRU is elected by the members and serves a two-year renewable term. The Chairman of APRU is Professor Shih, Choon Fong, President of the National University of Singapore.
The APRU Senior Staff Meeting is also held in addition to the Annual Presidents' Meeting to review the development and implementation of APRU activities. The meeting makes recommendation to the APRU Presidents.
Steering Committee
The Steering Committee provides leadership and guidance for the Association. It comprises Presidents from member universities representing Asia, Australasia, Latin America and North America. Members of the Steering Committee serve a three-year term. The APRU Chairman also serves as Chairman of the Steering Committee.
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Membership Criteria

To be a member of APRU, candidate universities from around the Pacific Rim must satisfy the following criteria:

·Academic Excellence
A member university should be rated as a leading university of the country, or a premier university within its geographical region. It should have attained broad excellence in carrying out the activities of its educational mission. In particular, the university should have developed innovative and quality educational programs at degree and professional levels in a substantial number of fields.

·Research Intensity
Beyond the educational thrust, a member university must have a mission of promoting research and scholarship. This could be indicated by the level of research funding attracted and the research recognition received. Another indicator is the presence of high-quality, research-based programs conducted at the graduate level.

·Global Outlook
A member university should have a strong international orientation. This could be reflected in its student and faculty profile. The university should participate actively in international activities such as university consortiums, forums or meetings. Another indicator of a university’s global outlook is its research and educational collaborations with overseas institutions, including student, faculty and staff exchange programs.

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APRU Member Universities

Australia;
Australian National University (Canberra)
University of Sydney (Sydney)

Canada:
University of British Columbia (Vancouver)

Chile:
University of Chile (Santiago)

China:
Fudan University (Shanghai)
Hong Kong University of Science and Technology (Hong Kong)
Peking University (Beijing)
Tsinghua University (Beijing)
University of Science and Technology of China (Hefei)
Zhejiang University (Zhejiang)
Chinese Taipei
National Taiwan University (Taipei)

Indonesia:
University of Indonesia (Jakarta)

Japan:
Keio University (Tokyo)
Kyoto University (Kyoto)
Osaka University (Osaka)
University of Tokyo (Tokyo)
Waseda University (Tokyo)

Korea:
Seoul National University (Seoul)

Malaysia:
University of Malaya (Kuala Lumpur)

Mexico:
National Autonomous University of Mexico (New Mexico City)

New Zealand:
University of Auckland (Auckland)

Philippines:
University of the Philippines (Quezon City)

Russia:
Far Eastern National University (Vladivostok)

Singapore:
National University of Singapore (Singapore)

Thailand:
Chulalongkorn University (Bangkok)

United States of America:
California Institute of Technology (Pasadena)
Stanford University (Stanford)
University of California, Berkeley
University of California, Davis
University of California, Irvine
University of California, Los Angeles
University of California, San Diego
University of California, Santa Barbara
University of Oregon (Eugene)
University of Southern California (Los Angeles)
University of Washington (Seattle)

[palikpik]

Originally posted by Thoma§
That's why I limited my example. "PEX in particular" :)

you started your post with a seemingly enlightened "you know what these 4 top schools can do for this country?", tapos sasabihin mo limited to pex in particular?

alam mo, wag ka na mag-attempt sumali sa mga seryosong diskusyon. mang-bash at mamersonal ka na lang. at least dun kaya mong maka garbage points kahit paano.

good luck, chopped liver!

[GreenestTurd]

Originally posted by PRINCE_WILLIAM
UP has been there. Done that…
What UP needs right now is to partner with its equal peers abroad not with some cheap schools based locally. For example, UP and U of Tokyo, UP and Harvard or UP and Cambridge…

Why would world-class institutions like U of Tokyo, Harvard, Oxford or Cambridge waste their time and resources with a 3rd rate public school in a 3rd world country? There's a huge insurmountable gap separating these world-class schools from UP.

Last time I checked, Oxford and Cambridge have more than 50 nobel prize recipients in their faculty, past and present, for a combined total or more than 100. Does UP even have one?:D

UP's "equal peers" abroad are the likes of University of Sri Langka, University of Papua New Guinea, Timbuktu Polytechnic, etc.....

NOT Harvard, Oxford, Cambridge, or of U. of Tokyo... unless you're just into bashing these fine institutions just like you love to bash your #1 local threat THE Ateneo.

There's nothing wrong about being fanatically loyal to your alma mater. But please don't do it as the expense of other schools.

Just sending you back to reality.

[Thoma§]

Originally posted by palikpik
you started your post with a seemingly enlightened "you know what these 4 top schools can do for this country?", tapos sasabihin mo limited to pex in particular?

alam mo, wag ka na mag-attempt sumali sa mga seryosong diskusyon. mang-bash at mamersonal ka na lang. at least dun kaya mong maka garbage points kahit paano.

good luck, chopped liver!
But "sweetie" I can't, because we aren't.

To start, before we can even attempt to make a more ubiquitous approach we must start from the bottom. It's a long process but its very effective in due time and is rewarding. How can a pyramid reach the zenith if its base is weak? The government can start too, with a more robust family indoctrination and foundation, because that's where it all starts and if everyone belongs to a good family we can outdo the languishing system.

I presented PEX, because this is one world I live in presently. The world that is relative to all of us. I can't change the nation overnight neither can you, but I can start with my own simple way. You can start right away too. Stop your bashing, maybe we can start from somewhere. If you can't stomach other schools existing here, you can always leave, nobody's asking you to read our school's achievement. We don't even bother reading yours, so to each his own.

Kaya alam mo, hindi matigilan ng iba na gamitan ka ng walang katapusang kaeklatan at mala-delubyong pambabara kasi hindi ka makausap ng matino. Sa tuwing may magbibigay ng sariling palagay na taliwas sa pag-iisip mo, anong gagawin mo? Siguro subukan mong kilatisin muna ang sarili mo.

The chop liver is great! Wanna have some? ;)

[palikpik]

want yo pass yourself off as eloquent and witty? try cornering four-year olds.

kinikilabutan ako sa'yo!

[Ischaramoochie]

hmmm, still in denial aren't we?

[PRINCE_WILLIAM]

Originally posted by GreenestTurd
Why would world-class institutions like U of Tokyo, Harvard, Oxford or Cambridge waste their time and resources with a 3rd rate public school in a 3rd world country? There's a huge insurmountable gap separating these world-class schools from UP.

Last time I checked, Oxford and Cambridge have more than 50 nobel prize recipients in their faculty, past and present, for a combined total or more than 100. Does UP even have one?:D

UP's "equal peers" abroad are the likes of University of Sri Langka, University of Papua New Guinea, Timbuktu Polytechnic, etc.....

NOT Harvard, Oxford, Cambridge, or of U. of Tokyo... unless you're just into bashing these fine institutions just like you love to bash your #1 local threat THE Ateneo.

There's nothing wrong about being fanatically loyal to your alma mater. But please don't do it as the expense of other schools.

Just sending you back to reality.

It should not follow that because UP has not produced a nobel winner this becomes unworthy for this university to partner with universities abroad that have already produced one or more nobel winners. This is a perfect reasoning of a pathetic loser!
UP has not yet produced a nobel awardee but it has already produced several Magsaysay awardees, the Asian version of nobel according to most experts.
The nobel is pro white. Rarely can an Asian and an African claim this award even if there are a lot of Japanese, Indians and Chinese geniuses who pioneered in the sciences, economics or technology.
But just the same, Stanford and Cal-Berkeley have invited UP to join in an association that foster academic relevance in the Pacific.

If you’re questioning that UP has to partner with U of Tokyo then I guess it’s too late for you to question that now. Both famous universities have already signed a memorandum of agreement to foster collaboration through faculty exchange and students.
Have you heard of the “teleconferencing” proudly announced by one of the pexers? That’s a manifestation of current and future collaboration between these two top universities.

Well, I may be proud that so far only UP has done what most university presidents have perceived a “quantum leap” in advanced education but I’ll be happy to see one day when DLSU, ADMU and UA&P will learn from this UP’s experience.

So, don’t be bitter and cry like a baby if your obvious second-rate university has viewed this as a whole new revolution of a truly world-class undertaking because whatever UP’s achievements and accomplishments are, it extends these to its substandard neighbors. UP is not tightfisted in sharing intellectual information to other universities and you should know this if you claim you are from taeneo. Taeneo University pirates UP profs from time to time.

[mac_bolan00]

it all comes to money. schools like CRC, DLSU-taft and rockwell invite some management guru or best-selling writer to speak. they also invite the public to attend the forum ---for a fee.

at UP, the various colleges and departments feature lectures from nobel prize winners and former heads of state.

LIBRE NA ATTENDANCE, MAY PAKAIN PA!

[Ischaramoochie]

pagkain!!! sama ako... :yum:

[Introvert_S]

may pakain ba yun? naku sana pala pumunta ako. Damn, I missed that Rorty guy. (may pakain kaya?)

[EyePower]

And about cooperation between UP,DLSU, ADMU and UST? It is possible. The things that they need to improve. For UP, its to heighten their standards and to be, at least, bette-equipped. And for DLSU and ADMU, to scrap their "coñotic" and "for the rich people only" image...and para sa UST, wag na sanang bahain ang España! [/B]

I'm from DLSU and proud of it. I must comment though on your statement that DLSU students are coño and that the school, for the rich. That can no longer be farther from the truth. I must admit that there are DLSU students who are coño, but almost all of them can only be found in the Colleges of Business and Economics and Liberal Arts. And they're not even a lot of them. As for the "for the rich people" only, I must strongly disagree. There are a lot of students who benefit from the scholarship programs offered by the school, and these students are not at all well-off. And DLSU also caters to the education of the underprivileged outside the university. There are LS schools offered in the provinces that ask for only 10,000 tuition a year. I think it's in Misamis... But I do know that one of those is an engineering school. There are even night classes conducted in LSGH for 200 pesos a month. Mostly they are for the unfortunate adults who weren't able to finish school and through the night schooling, they get to hold a degree. This is all part of St. John Baptist de La Salle's mission of education for the underprivileged.

[hi_atheneo]

First of all, the question on which school is #4 still remain unsettled.

Yung top 3 pa lang established: Up-The Ateneo-La Salle

The Triumvirate.

Blue *owl* ---> the King!

[XetraDAX]

Originally posted by EyePower
I'm from DLSU and proud of it. I must comment though on your statement that DLSU students are coño and that the school, for the rich. That can no longer be farther from the truth. I must admit that there are DLSU students who are coño, but almost all of them can only be found in the Colleges of Business and Economics and Liberal Arts. And they're not even a lot of them. As for the "for the rich people" only, I must strongly disagree. There are a lot of students who benefit from the scholarship programs offered by the school, and these students are not at all well-off. And DLSU also caters to the education of the underprivileged outside the university. There are LS schools offered in the provinces that ask for only 10,000 tuition a year. I think it's in Misamis... But I do know that one of those is an engineering school. There are even night classes conducted in LSGH for 200 pesos a month. Mostly they are for the unfortunate adults who weren't able to finish school and through the night schooling, they get to hold a degree. This is all part of St. John Baptist de La Salle's mission of education for the underprivileged.


Right!

Meron ding Night School sa De La Salle Zobel. Remember, gicing quality education to the socialy disadvantaged ang main mission ng La Salle schools.

[Thoma§]

bashers should stop bashing so that we can move on (bashers also include thomasians [?] like ustig!).

;)

[immune]

TOP 3 university in the phil lang...wala pang number 4 . UP - ateneo - lasalle palang ...BIG 3 !

[Cyberspace_law]

oist may insekto na naman! taga intramuros ata!

[hi_atheneo]

Originally posted by Cyberspace_law
oist may insekto na naman! taga intramuros ata!

how dare you call others as insects!

dont throw stones when you just live in a glasshouse... you people just barely survived the flash floods that occurred along españa just weeks ago.

Blue *owl* ---> the King!

[immune]

haha..oo nga noh ...HIMALA ! NABUHAY ANG ESPANA ! the BEST UNIVersity ! THE royal and PONTIFICAL ! the BEST LAW SCHOOL ! THE BEST engineering SCHOOL! grabe na toh......ARCHITECT at its BEST ! and BIG 3 school ito . grabe ! kaso yun insekto yata sainyo eh HEPA infected!

[Arneow]

Originally posted by Fernando Sarmenta
Lets build Network and not Walls;
Lets not Consume Each Other lets HELP one another!
Let us inspire the other schools so that philippine education can get something in return, and improve to a level more acceptable than now! beneficial for our Country, the World and to US!

Para matulungan naman natin ang Pilipinas its not turning for the better but sinking to what we may call oblivion of poverty and unjust human level!

Masarap siguro kung di lang Apat pero maraming Philippine institutions ang makilala para the MASA will get the share of Wealth that they have long been longin for! pero i think our generation will not see this! because ours need to do the toil that generations of the past had forgotten to work on!

Sana para we can all be proud to be Filipino! di kagaya ngayon!

right!



Fly Eagle Fly!

[ReaL1ty_B1Tes]

Originally posted by immune
haha..oo nga noh ...HIMALA ! NABUHAY ANG ESPANA ! the BEST UNIVersity ! THE royal and PONTIFICAL ! the BEST LAW SCHOOL ! THE BEST engineering SCHOOL! grabe na toh......ARCHITECT at its BEST ! and BIG 3 school ito . grabe ! kaso yun insekto yata sainyo eh HEPA infected!

tsk tsk tsk....

uunahan na kita:

epal ako, epal ako!

weno ngayon sa'yo?

:evil_lol:

[bakekang]

Originally posted by Thoma§
But "sweetie" I can't, because we aren't.

To start, before we can even attempt to make a more ubiquitous approach we must start from the bottom. It's a long process but its very effective in due time and is rewarding. How can a pyramid reach the zenith if its base is weak? The government can start too, with a more robust family indoctrination and foundation, because that's where it all starts and if everyone belongs to a good family we can outdo the languishing system.

I presented PEX, because this is one world I live in presently. The world that is relative to all of us. I can't change the nation overnight neither can you, but I can start with my own simple way. You can start right away too. Stop your bashing, maybe we can start from somewhere. If you can't stomach other schools existing here, you can always leave, nobody's asking you to read our school's achievement. We don't even bother reading yours, so to each his own.

Kaya alam mo, hindi matigilan ng iba na gamitan ka ng walang katapusang kaeklatan at mala-delubyong pambabara kasi hindi ka makausap ng matino. Sa tuwing may magbibigay ng sariling palagay na taliwas sa pag-iisip mo, anong gagawin mo? Siguro subukan mong kilatisin muna ang sarili mo.

The chop liver is great! Wanna have some? ;)

Bading na bading ang dating - may sweetie pa.

[rave]

bakekang, ahem, but was that a flame?

[zacharaiolsen]

akala ko naman maayos na takbo ng thread, kaya lang sa bandang huli ayan na naman sila. imbis na maka-asar, nakaka-awa na kayo... you know yoursleves. tsk tsk tsk.

[immune]

hahaha....dibali , may TRUCK naman ng BASURA na dadaan sa SCHOOL nyong napakaGANDA !

[immune]

hahaha....dibali , may TRUCK naman ng BASURA na dadaan sa SCHOOL nyong napakaGANDA !

[LongBow]

easy lang mga tsong!!!

[immune]

eh kase REALITY really BITES ! tsk.tsk..accept it!

[Arneow]

are there any badings in UST? i dont see a single bading in THe Ateneo.

on topic: they should tie up more with other universities abroad.

[Fairy_nd_meadow]

stop trolling UST_Tigrex.

[ReaL1ty_B1Tes]

Originally posted by immune
eh kase REALITY really BITES ! tsk.tsk..accept it!

yes, you're right, real1ty really b1tes! then why can't you accept it? dang! and please, stick to the topic will yah?

:evil_lol:

[Thoma§]

see? it's showing already.

[XetraDAX]

Originally posted by Arneow
are there any badings in UST? i dont see a single bading in THe Ateneo.

on topic: they should tie up more with other universities abroad.



feeling mo walang bading sa THE ateneo HS?

[ReaL1ty_B1Tes]

:evil_lol:

[bakekang]

Originally posted by Thoma§
see? it's showing already.

Whatever it is that is showing, "sweetie", I hope you're having fun watching it.

[prodent]

ahihihihi

[MercuryMatters]

Originally posted by Thoma§
see? it's showing already.

Whatever it is that is showing, "sweetie", I hope you're having fun watching it.

***

just quoting a quote that quoted a post

[gAda_gAda]

UST can start improving by closing its doors on corrupt officials and by resolving the case about the ROTC related killing of a thomasian

also, they can improve by teaching the varsitarian how to get credible sources as to prevent them from writing lies

[sagala_queen]

nakulong na ba yung pumatay? graduate ba ng UST yung pumatay? ooops this is way off-topic. sorry.

on topic: establish more international linkages.

[MercuryMatters]

Originally posted by gAda_gAda
UST can start improving by closing its doors on corrupt officials and by resolving the case about the ROTC related killing of a thomasian

also, they can improve by teaching the varsitarian how to get credible sources as to prevent them from writing lies

and get that water treatment plant working!

flooding is still rampant along espana e

[pumpy]

The four schools will have to increase admission standards, and that will mean receiving only around 15 percent of students compared to the number that they are admitting right now.

The four will have to work together and form one university filled with mostly Ph.D.s and students from that 15 percent who plan to engage in research for the sciences or the humanities. The university libraries and laboratories should be consolidated to aid them in their academic work. Financial scholarships should be emphasized for this track since students will not be working outside the university.

The other 85 percent should be invited to take two- to four-year diploma courses in business and related subjects. Faculty members with master's degrees should teach in these technical schools, and the schools should work with businesses and other organizations. (Part of the course work should involve a practicum--preferably, only working students should be admitted, with recommendations from their employers. The money earned from work and support from companies should pay for the tuition, which shouldn't be very high because the working student will not have to subsidize expensive university facilities. But these technical schools may be run by universities and may provide part of research funding.)

The hard part is convincing Philippine employers that a college or university degree is not necessary for much of white-collar work and that management and similar subjects may be taught through diploma courses and certification. It might also be difficult convincing most Filipino students that they are not prepared for university-level work, and should accept vocational or technical training. Finally, the government will have to collect taxes effectively in order to subsidize university education.

In order to make either track appealing, perhaps some sort of wage scale system should be put in place. That is, a researcher or teacher with a university degree should make roughly the same amount of money as a manager with a technical diploma.

[cyber_romancer]

Originally posted by gAda_gAda
UST can start improving by closing its doors on corrupt officials and by resolving the case about the ROTC related killing of a thomasian

also, they can improve by teaching the varsitarian how to get credible sources as to prevent them from writing lies this is a good idea

[MercuryMatters]

^ i hope that wont just go to deaf ears

[gAda_gAda]

^^ don't hope too much...it's ust dba?

[prodent]

it's a pity, no?

[acacia_tree]

walang magagawa ang la salle. ATENEO, UP at UST lang. ahhihihihih

[supremo elyag]

ano ba yan..nagkakagulo na naman dito..

I think it would be great na magtulungan ang UP,ADMU,DLSU& UST to improve each other more mas lalo na tulungan din ang ibang universities/colleges/schools ng pinas.Puro na lang personal na interes ang gumagana e kaya ganito ang kalagayan ng pilipinas! kahit sampung taon pa o ilang presidente pa ang dumating kung ganito ang karamihan sa pinoy,nakakaawa lang tayong lahat..

sa mga nagmamagaling at ayaw makipagtulungan sa kapwa(mga sakim) ito ang masasabi ko>>May God bless you!<<:)

[acacia_tree]

JupiterJives,
i'm right, katulong nga ang mga taga UST!

[acacia_tree]

on topic: walang maitutulong ang lasalle.

[coydeleon]

Why limit it to just 4 universities, why not Philippine education in general?

Plus the mere fact that you have a legit job (whether it be a taxi driver, maid or call center rep) and pay your taxes, your already doing your part for the economy.

Of course, para dun sa mga magiging politico in the future, eh sana naman eh alam nyo na ang gagawin nyo diba?

[Bandido]

^^ mga taenistang politico ba sinasabi mo

[egAd]

Originally posted by coydeleon
Of course, para dun sa mga magiging politico in the future, eh sana naman eh alam nyo na ang gagawin nyo diba?

does this include aspiring generals and rotc officials?

[Bandido]

^^ taenistang politico lang daw.....

[egAd]

Originally posted by gAda_gAda
UST can start improving by closing its doors on corrupt officials and by resolving the case about the ROTC related killing of a thomasian

also, they can improve by teaching the varsitarian how to get credible sources as to prevent them from writing lies

i agree...ust should do these

[Bandido]

^^ eh yung corrupt na presidente ..... ano gagawin don.....

[katche]

Originally posted by egAd
i agree...ust should do these


eh malamang mag-agree ka nga. egad = gada_gada (one and the same!) alangan namang i-contradict mo sarili mong post.

[egAd]

Originally posted by katche
eh malamang mag-agree ka nga. egad = gada_gada (one and the same!) alangan namang i-contradict mo sarili mong post.

dali, gawa ka ng thesis tungkol jan!

ahihi

[yuchengcoo]

drainage system-->needs improvement.:)

[XetraDAX]

stop bashing. instead, help each other out.

[Dennis21]

research collaboration

[kevin_g]

can't improve, why talk about improvement e dito pa nga lang sa pex nag aaway away na mga estudyante from these schools...sad thing to see