Legal Management:ADMU, UST or DLSU?

[Jesuit]

what school has the best program in legal management.

i am about to go to ateneo

[Stirling]

of course, DLSU!

[Lek-Lek]

Jesuit:

Did you attend the JGSOM Open House? If not, then we can just correspond via PM. I'm a graduate of the LM program and I will be happy to address the concerns or issues you might have.

[Limasawa]

Bakit kasama UST? Sabay magaganda mga chicks doon at easy to get but besides that, its not event part of the top schools in the Philippines. Feeling archrival pa ng La Salle then tried to start a rivalry with Ateneo.

[Stirling]

wala pa sigurong nag graduate ng legal management na naging maayos ang pamumuhay sa ngayon.

[Krazie_bone]

Bakit kasama UST? Sabay magaganda mga chicks doon at easy to get but besides that, its not event part of the top schools in the Philippines. Feeling archrival pa ng La Salle then tried to start a rivalry with Ateneo.


Yeah, I can see that you do not belong to any of the so-called "top schools" either. Have you checked your grammar lately? :splat:

[LITHIUM478]

Question: Ano ba career path ng mga LM grads?

[tidus1203]

IMO medyo mahirap sila sa corporate ladder kasi law ang specialty nila unlike their business and marketing counterparts na mas business tlaga focus. However, majority of legal management majors go on to study at law school.

[feisty_virago]

Question: Ano ba career path ng mga LM grads?

From experience, my LM friends in ADMU take two directions. Majority goes to Law School and the others go to diverse fields but with a significant number going to investment/security/insurance houses. (managing mergers& acquisitions, underwriting IPOs/bonds, syndication, securization etc.) :)

[Hisbenz]

Bakit kasama UST? Sabay magaganda mga chicks doon at easy to get but besides that, its not event part of the top schools in the Philippines. Feeling archrival pa ng La Salle then tried to start a rivalry with Ateneo.

excuse me. a lot of UST legal management alumni were successful in their fields. .(despite of only a decade of existance)


in fact Arlene maneja, ust-legal management alumna topped the bar 2003.
international debaters like enrique de la cruz, arlene maneja,etc.

60% of ust LM go for law schools like admu,up,ust and san beda. others ended up as businessman, paralegal, researchers,etc.

UST-Leg Ma reorganized their curriculum having more on law subjects.

[intensity1214.]

1. UST
2. la salle (ok na rin)

'yung iba, wa 'wenta.

:)

[Jesuit]

actually i all passed the 3 schools. LM lahat kinuha ko.

my dad wants me to go to ateneo my mom naman sa ust daw. i heard that ust has a good program in LM. my cousin kasi is from ust LM.

pero hello ateneo na yun, kaya sa ateneo na lang ako.

can anyone here post their curriculum?

[Limasawa]

Yeah, I can see that you do not belong to any of the so-called "top schools" either. Have you checked your grammar lately? :splat:

Never took it seriously but sure sounded the way it was suppose to mean - UST ISN'T PART OF THE INNER CIRCLE.

Translation for Krazie_bone:

(I) never took it seriously but (it) sure sounded (the way) it was suppose to mean as stated above.

Footnote: The English Language belongs to the Germanic Group of European Languages, which include German, Swedish, Norwegian and most languages spoken in Northern Europe. The rest belongs to the Romance Group of Languages, which developed from vernacular forms of Latin spoken across the former Roman Empire. The earliest form of English was spoken in Angle-Land (now England) by a germanic tribe known as Angles. Elements of French was added to the language during the Norman occupation of England. In the 1500s, American colonists brought the language with them to the New World. English spoken America developed separately from England with the former having influences from languages brought by immigrants from other parts of Europe and Mexico who settled the English colonies. American Thomasites introduced American English in the Philippines. Today, English is spoken in most continents of the world and continues to change.

You may find the backgrounder interesting given your serious thought and omnipotent grasp of English Grammar. Its filled with grammatical errors (per Krazie_bone Dictionary) so you'll have to correct them according to the English you know. :naughty:

[Hisbenz]

^^oh, bat off topic na naman dito! mga iba talaga dito! wa wenta

[voltaire_mad]

^^oh, bat off topic na naman dito! mga iba talaga dito! wa wenta

Wa wenta pala. Wag mo na patulan.

[Limasawa]

Kung ako sa yo threadstarter, tanungin mo mga mahilig mag-tagalog dito kung saan sila nag-tapos. Siguradong barok yong mga yon. Kung anong school i-sagot nila, huwag na huwag kang mag-aaral don. Kung hindi, magiging barok ka rin.

[bluemax]

actually i all passed the 3 schools. LM lahat kinuha ko.

my dad wants me to go to ateneo my mom naman sa ust daw. i heard that ust has a good program in LM. my cousin kasi is from ust LM.

pero hello ateneo na yun, kaya sa ateneo na lang ako.

can anyone here post their curriculum?

jesuit,

you can go to the www.ateneo.edu website and look for the link to the john gokongwei school of management site. a copy of the LM curriculum is in there.

re admu's LM program, i think that now it has metamorphosed into a business course that incidentally has a lot of law units. although it can be a pre-law course, it is not primarily designed to be such. despite this, however, several of its graduates have gone on to top the bar exams. those that did not take up law, however, are now doing very well in other fields. i can say without reservation that it is a very good course, having graduated with an LM degree from the ateneo in the early 80's.

it would have helped if you had attended the jgsom open house, as the people there would have answered all of your questions, and then some. but since you have already decided -- welcome to the ateneo! magiging kaklase ka ng anak ko sa june. :)

[Lek-Lek]

bluemax,

Really? You're from the LM program too? :)

Great to hear from alumni like you. We're in the process of preparing the alumni database for the Legal Management program.

[archerguy]

For info on DLSU's BSC Legal Management degree, click HERE (http://www.dlsu.edu.ph/academics/programs/undergraduate/cbe/bs_lm01.asp).

Aside from the law courses, LM majors take the same Accounting, Finance, Economics, Statistics, and Business subjects taken by all CBE students. :)

[Thoma§]

any school is okay but since I am from UST (that's not my course but i do belong to the same college), i'll speak only of UST-LM.

i can say that the university offers a good legal management program even if, in my knowledge, it is one of the newest courses in the faculty of arts and letters. UST-LM is clearly showing signs of progress (following other older & excellent UST-AB programs such as Literature, Journalism and Philosophy) and that one was already stated by hisbenz. they also have an ustetika winner, rosmon tuason; if i'm not mistaken, he's now the president of the UP Writers Club.

in addition, all of the faculty members are practicing lawyers and i can definitely say that they are tough faculty members who are not the bookish types. i can say so because i had some of them as my professors as well. UST-LM is excellent and the curriculum is well-planned.

As for DLSU and ADMU, of course, they definitely offer excellent LM but UST is more practical in terms of the tuition-fee.

[swimbod21]

Never took it seriously but sure sounded the way it was suppose to mean - UST ISN'T PART OF THE INNER CIRCLE.

Translation for Krazie_bone:

(I) never took it seriously but (it) sure sounded (the way) it was suppose to mean as stated above.

Footnote: The English Language belongs to the Germanic Group of European Languages, which include German, Swedish, Norwegian and most languages spoken in Northern Europe. The rest belongs to the Romance Group of Languages, which developed from vernacular forms of Latin spoken across the former Roman Empire. The earliest form of English was spoken in Angle-Land (now England) by a germanic tribe known as Angles. Elements of French was added to the language during the Norman occupation of England. In the 1500s, American colonists brought the language with them to the New World. English spoken America developed separately from England with the former having influences from languages brought by immigrants from other parts of Europe and Mexico who settled the English colonies. American Thomasites introduced American English in the Philippines. Today, English is spoken in most continents of the world and continues to change.

You may find the backgrounder interesting given your serious thought and omnipotent grasp of English Grammar. Its filled with grammatical errors (per Krazie_bone Dictionary) so you'll have to correct them according to the English you know. :naughty:

i cannot comprehend. :)

[Thoma§]

University of Santo Tomas
The Catholic University of the Philippines
Producing leaders since 1611

Faculty of Arts and Letters (1896)
Bachelor of Arts major in Legal Management

*subjects can be in the first or second semester depending on the availability of professors.

First Year

First Semester

ENG 101A Communication Skills
LIT 101 Introduction to Literary Types
ASN 102 Contemporary World Georgraphy/ HIST*
PHL 1 Introductory Philosophy
ECO 101A Basic Economics/College Algebra*
THY 1 Salvation History
SCL 101 Society and Culture
LGM 201 Principles of Management (MAJOR)

Second Semester

ENG 101B Communication Skills II
LIT 102 Filipino Literature in English
HST 101A/ASN 102 History of Civilization/CWG*
PHL 1 Logic
THY 2 Church and Sacraments
PGC/PS 5 Philippine Government and Constitution/Ang Pamahalaan at Ang Konstitusyon*
LGM 1200 Introduction to Law
Math 1/ Math 101 Mathematics (College Algebra)*

Second Year

First Semester

THY 3 Moral Theology
ENG 102 Effective Expository Writing
NS 1 (COMM) Earth Science
MATH 103AB Mathematics of Finance
PHL 3AB/Comp 1 Rational Psychology/ Computer*
RC Rizal Course/Rizal's Life and Work
HST 101b History of Civilization
LGM 2100 Legal Research, Bibliography and Writing

Second Semester

ENG104 Oral Communication in English
NS 2 Biological Science
MATH 103BES Basic Statistics
PHL 3AB/Comp 1 Rational Psychology/ Computer*
FIL 1 Sining ng Pakikipagtalastasan
P. HIST./HIST 101 Philippine History/Ang Kasaysayan ng Pilipinas
THY 4 Social Problems and Current Issues
MKTG Principles of Marketing

Third Year

First Semester

SPN 1 Elementary Spanish
FIL 2BIO Pagbasa at Pagsulat sa iba't ibang disiplina
POL 1102 Dynamics of Philippine Politics
LIT 109a Survey of World Literature
SCL 9/THY 5 Marriage and Family
COMP Computer Application in the Field
LGM 3101 Corporation and Partnership
BA 2 Human Resource Management

Second Semester

SPN 2 Intermediate Spanish
FIL 3 Retorika
PSY 2 (PSY) Experimental Psychology
LIT 109b Survey of World Literature 2
RM&P Research Methods and Proposal Writing
BES 4113 Labor Standards
ACCT 1 Basic Accounting

Fourth Year

First Semester

PHL 2/PHL 6 Ethics
APP/HUM Art Appreciation
LGM 4100 Social Legislation
LAW 1 Obligations and Contracts
BA 12 Production Management
LGM 4103 Principles of Finance
THEWR Thesis Writing
PRAC Practicum

Second Semester

LRT Land Reform and Taxation
BES 4217/LGM 4200 Labor Relations
LGM 4201 Sales, Agency and Special Contracts
LAW 3B Negotiable Instruments
LGM 4203 Persons and Family Relations
LGM 4204 Public Administration
MAN ACCTG. Managerial Accounting
ECO 4204 Managerial Economics
LGM 4207 Policy Formulation and Implementation
TD Thesis Defense

[noinertaus]

may kakilala ako. legal management ang ipnasa nya sa dlsu. kaso pinili niya ang interdisciplinary studies ng ateneo kasi mas gusto niya ang ateneo.

sa aking opinyon kasi, nanghihinayang ako kasi kung tutuusin, mas maganda talaga ang course niya sa la salle. gusto niya mag-law and i think legal mgt. is a better pre-law course. but i think she is just looking after the name of the school.

[Thoma§]

legal management and political science are excellent pre-law courses. tingnan mo naman, they are taught to reason like law students (kaya maraming debaters ang na-foform ng LM), and even the inchoate subjects of law, kinukuha na nila (like obligations and contracts etc..). Saka, they have an edge kasi nakaniig na nila ang mga SCRA, Legal cases and etc.. and their faculty members are lawyers, kaya hindi ka talaga masisindak sa nakagigimbal na pamantayan sa kolehiyo ng batas.

pero, kung nais mong marami kang magamay pagkatapos mong mag-aral ng batas, maari namang kumuha ka rin ng iba. sa akin na lang, i took up journalism as my pre-law course. i know that my law studies (that will be on the first semester of the next school year), will all come as a big shock. pero, alam ko naman na may edge rin ako sa mabilisang pagsulat at pagbasa, na nakuha ko sa pag-aaral ng pamamahayag. saka alam ko naman na wasto ang nakuha kong kaalaman upang bigyan ako ng karampatang paghahanda sa susunod na semestre. lalo na when i had the chance to be a police, political and court reporter, i've experienced encountering legal terms while attending court inquests and promulgations. journalism has, indirectly, taught me to be flexible in the know-hows of the government and the society, because I write about them.

karagdagan pa sa mga nasabi ko na, i took another field kasi ayokong ma-bore at mawalan ng gana sa law school. pagpasok ko sa law school, it will be my first time to encounter most of the things taught there, kaya medyo gaganahan pa akong mag-aral. unlike LM and political science na malamang, ay 'yun din ang ginagawa nila since their college days. well, sa akin lang naman 'yun.

[Lek-Lek]

I have taken the liberty of posting the curriculum of the Ateneo-JGSOM Legal Management program:

a) In parentheses are the number of academic units for each course;
b) In bold letters are important credit courses;
c) In bold and capital letters are the courses comprising the specific curriculum of the program/concentration;
d) Others are part of the Ateneo Core Curriculum taken by all students of the four Loyola Schools, regardless of degree concentration.

FIRST YEAR

First Semester
En 11 Communication in English I (3)
Lit 13 Introduction to Fiction (3)
Fil 11 Sining ng Pakikipagtalastasan sa Filipino I (3)
NatSci Ps1/Bi7/Bi9/Es10/Ch1 (Choose one) (3 units lecture; 1 unit lab)
PE 1 Physical Education
NSTP 1 National Service Training Program 1

Second Semester
En 12 Communication in English II (3)
Lit 14 Introduction to Poetry (3)
Fil 12 Sining ng Pakikipagtalastasan sa Filipino II (3)
NatSci 2 Ps1/Bi7/Bi9/Es10/Ch1 (Choose one) (3 units lecture; 1 unit lab)
Ma 19 Applied Calculus for Business (6)
PE 2 Physical Education
NSTP 2 National Service Training Program II

SECOND YEAR

Summer
ITM 11 Basic Information Technology Applications in Business (non credit)

First Semester
Sci 10 Science and Society (3)
Fil 14 Ang Panitikan ng Pilipinas (3)
Psy 101 General Psychology (3)
Hi 16/18 Asian/Western History (3)
ACC 10 PRINCIPLES OF ACCOUNTING (3)
LAW 21 OBLIGATIONS AND CONTRACTS (3)
PE 3 Physical Education

Second Semester
FLC 1 Foreign Language and Culture (3)
SA 21 Intro to Sociology and Anthropology (3)
Th 121 An Introduction to Doing a Catholic Theology (3)
Eco 102 Basic Economics, Agrarian Reform and Taxation (3)
LS 10 PHILIPPINE BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT (2)
ACC 30 INTRODUCTION TO MANAGERIAL ACCOUNTING (3)
LAW 22 LAW ON BUSINESS ORGANIZATIONS AND INTELLECTUAL PROPERTIES (3)
PE 4 Physical Education

THIRD YEAR

Summer
Eco 111 Intermediate Microeconomic Theory (3)
Hi 165 Rizal & the Emergence of the Philippine Nation (3)

First Semester
Ph 101 Philosophy of the Human Person I (3)
POM 104 QUANTITATIVE METHODS AND OPERATIONS/PRODUCTIONS MANAGEMENT (5)
MKT 101 PRINCIPLES OF MARKETING (3)
LAW 123 SPECIAL CONTRACTS AND NEGOTIABLE INSTRUMENTS (3)
LAW 124 TAXATION (3)

Second Semester
Ph 102 Philosophy of the Human Person II (3)
Th 131 Marriage, Family Life & Human Sexuality in a Catholic Perspective (3)
Hi 166 Philippine History
FIN 103 PRINCIPLES OF FINANCE (3)
LS 100 ORGANIZATIONAL BEHAVIOR (3)
LAW 125 LABOR LAWS & SOCIAL LEGISLATION (3)

FOURTH YEAR

First Semester
Ph 103 Philosophy of Religion (3)
Th 141 A Theology of the Catholic Social Vision (3)
LS 126 STRATEGY FORMULATION (3)
PoS 100 Politics and Governance (3)
MGT/LAW ELECTIVE (3)
Free Elective (3)

Second Semester
Ph 104 Foundations of Moral Values (3)
Th 151 The Catholic Commitment of Today's Filipino: A Synthesis (3)
LS 127 STRATEGY IMPLEMENTATION (3)
MGT/LAW ELECTIVE (3)
MGT/LAW ELECTIVE (3)
Free Elective (3)

*LS 126/127, three MGT/LAW Electives and one Free Elective can be substituted for 18 academic units in the JGSOM Business Accelerator Program
**MGT/LAW Electives and all Free Electives may be substituted for credit units in our partner universities in China, Singapore, Japan, Hong Kong, Hungary, France, Austria, and the United States should a student decide to join the JGSOM Junior Term Abroad Program (JTA)

For more info on the JTA and JGSOMBA Programs, visit www.ateneo.edu/som

[Thoma§]

^^ grabe! may summer subjects pa sa ateneo hehe.

[paralusi]

swerte pa yan at hanggang second year lang summer nila.

[Thoma§]

^^ ako, i really hate courses na may summer, ayos na sa akin na pahirapan ako ng buong school year. kasi i devote my summer reading novels, writing poetry, going to the gym and resting. i won't be able to do all those kung may sched sa school.

[Limasawa]

Biases aside, if you are seriously intent on taking up law in the future and taking LM as pre-law, maybe you should go to Ateneo if you already got accepted there. You may stand a better chance making it into the Ateneo School of Law. Nonetheless, you may have personal reasons for considering DLSU and UST.

[popwinter]

UST's LM curriculum has 25 major subjects; Ateneo has 19 subjects.

In the curriculum, UST has 5 philosophy subjects (3 units each) and 5 Theology subjects (3 units each); Ateneo has 4 philo subjects and 4 theology subjects.

Likewise, UST has 4 literature subjects (3 units each); Ateneo has 2 literature subjects.

[intensity1214.]

mukhang mas maganda nga curriculum ng UST kesa ateneo. eh 'yung sa la salle kaya? hhmmmm....

:)

[popwinter]

UST's curriculum shows that as a catholic university, it gives preponderance to humanistic education: the promotion of dialogue between faith and reason.

[paralusi]

quantity != quality

[popwinter]

my dad wants me to go to ateneo my mom naman sa ust daw. i heard that ust has a good program in LM. my cousin kasi is from ust LM.

pero hello ateneo na yun, kaya sa ateneo na lang ako.

can anyone here post their curriculum?

hello UST yun noh, school ng mga national heroes at 9 na mga santo; kaya sa UST na lang ako.

[alikishi]

parang walang calculus dun sa curriculum ng UST

[Thoma§]

quantity != quality
ust only has 2 sections for LM, fyi.

[Lek-Lek]

The curriculum of the LM program in the Ateneo is a product of the revision of an old curriculum that included 15 units of Theology, 15 units of English and Literature, 16 units of Philosophy, and Family Law.

But the JGSOM repackaged the program with the intention of actively promoting it as a business/management program with special emphasis on business law subjects (not as a pre-law degree). Hence, with the implementation of the new Ateneo Core Curriculum back in SY 1998-1999 that caused the reduction in the units on Theology, Philosophy, English and Law, the faculty decided to introduce 6 units of Calculus (topics here are needed in Statistics, Microeconomics and to some extent Managerial Accounting) and 5 units of Quantitative Methods (statistics, linear programming, transportation models, demand forecasting, operations management) into the program. Again, if the program is to be seen as a management program (similar to Management, Management-Honors Program, Management Engineering, etc.) an emphasis on both the qualitative AND quantitative courses is imperative. That explains why graduates of the LM program pursue a variety of career options (aside from law) such as investment banking, brand management, equities and stock brokerage, treasury, consulting, etc.

Recently, the JGSOM has also been very emphatic on the experiential and hands-on approach it aims to use on all major courses taken by management students, including those enrolled in LM. Students are required to propose detailed marketing, operations, financial and strategic plans supported by extensive market research and quantitative basis. The output required are so detailed students can practically implement them the day after their final panel defense. And this is done every semester in each of the major functional area courses (Mkt 101, POM 104, LS 10, LS 126 and LS 127) required for all management programs.

Addendum to the curriculum posted above:

LM majors are required to take Ma 11 Modern Mathematics I (3 units) on their first semester of college. The course is a pre-requisite for Ma 19.

[Thoma§]

UST's LM curriculum has 25 major subjects; Ateneo has 19 subjects.

In the curriculum, UST has 5 philosophy subjects (3 units each) and 5 Theology subjects (3 units each); Ateneo has 4 philo subjects and 4 theology subjects.

Likewise, UST has 4 literature subjects (3 units each); Ateneo has 2 literature subjects.
ateneo and UST are centers of excellence in philosophy and literature (pareho pang honorific status 'yun). wala ng ibang university ang makakapantay sa achievements ng ateneo at UST sa mga larangang iyan. alumni na lang eh.

actually, wala naman sa dami ng subjects iyan. may kakulangan din naman ang UST curriculum at gayundin sa curriculum ng ateneo.

[Thoma§]

oo nga pala, 'yung sa UST, revised curriculum din na naisakatuparan lang noong taong 2001.

the UST faculty of arts and letters is a big faculty now offering 10 majors (i think they'll be phasing out the AB-BSE program soon--which is in consortium with the UST College of Education). it started only with two programs: bachelor of literature (Litt.B.) in journalism and philosophy under the faculty of philosophy and letters, which was then separate from the UST College of Liberal Arts.

[Hisbenz]

quantity != quality

fyi, we only have 2 sections. we have a maximum of 34 students in my class.

[popwinter]

In UST, regardless of your chosen course, you are required to take at least 15 units of philosophy, 15 units of theology and 21 units of literature and english subjects.

[Hisbenz]

oo nga pala, 'yung sa UST, revised curriculum din na naisakatuparan lang noong taong 2001.

the UST faculty of arts and letters is a big faculty now offering 10 majors (i think they'll be phasing out the AB-BSE program soon--which is in consortium with the UST College of Education). it started only with two programs: bachelor of literature (Litt.B.) in journalism and philosophy under the faculty of philosophy and letters, which was then separate from the UST College of Liberal Arts.


yes, and i am part of the new curriculum wherein we had the major subjects since first year. i wonder why tinanggal na yung subjects like remedial law and political law. but we had our Contemporary Legislation the subject tackles the procurement act (ra 9184) and the cyberspace law. this is one of a hell subject i ever had.

in fact UST legal management has an excellent faculty. we have justices, practicing lawyers like atty. syquia (son of the former ambassador syquia), atty. enrique de la cruz and hey we have arlene maneja-bar top notcher 2002.

when you question the quantity over quality, fyi, in th old curriculum, you can enter the portals of legal management if you at least have a weighted average of 1.5 up. that's why we are screened.

hay..im graduating na rin. im so happy i had this kind of experience in LM.

[popwinter]

ano yung first name ni atty. syquia, hisbenz?

[Hisbenz]

ano yung first name ni atty. syquia, hisbenz?

atty. Jose Luis Syquia. he is also teaching at the UST civil law

[Thoma§]

teka, 2002 ba nag-top si arlene maneja or 2003? when i was in the ateneo professional schools building in rockwell, i saw some atenean law students reading their law/college magazine (o kung ano man ang tawag nila doon). the cover had atty. arlene maneja and the other atenean bar topnotcher. ang pagkakaalala ko, maneja topped the bar in 2002, di ba?

[Hisbenz]

syempre kaka-edit ko lang..hehe

erratum= 2002 po not 2003!

thanks po

[Thoma§]

hehe.. talagang kinarir ang pagbabasa ng mga posts sa pex. :D

[paralusi]

Thomas and Hisbenz,

i was actually referring to popwinter's comparison of the number of specific subjects between the two schools.

as Thomas said, "wala naman sa dami ng subjects iyan."

btw, Thomas, have you decided where to pursue your "Bachelor of Law" degree yet?

[Thoma§]

kahit hindi ako LM, i admire the people and the faculty of LM. one of the people there that i admire most is arlene maneja. she is such an amazing woman. during her time in UST (as a student) she was already central student council president. she's also one of the most outstanding students in the philippines. she graduated magna cum laude sa LM which is a very rare case, considering how hard and tough the faculty is and she also graduated magna cum laude sa UST faculty of civil law. despite passing ateneo and UP (which are the best performing law schools according to the bar exams), she still chose UST. thomasian na thomasian talaga siya since high school.

[Thoma§]

btw, Thomas, have you decided where to pursue your "Bachelor of Law" degree yet?
i haven't decided pa. i want to take a long vacation muna this summer. i want to apply for a teaching post in an english department next semester pero baka i-turn down ko muna 'yun. parang hindi ko kayang pagsabay-sabayin.

[popwinter]

i was actually referring to popwinter's comparison of the number of specific subjects between the two schools.

as Thomas said, "wala naman sa dami ng subjects iyan."

UST's curriculum shows that as a catholic university, it gives preponderance to humanistic education: the promotion of dialogue between faith and reason.

In UST, regardless of your chosen course, you are required to take at least 15 units of philosophy, 15 units of theology and 21 units of literature and english subjects.

Ateneo and UST are both catholic universities. The former boasts of specializing in the humanities.

[Hisbenz]

kahit hindi ako LM, i admire the people and the faculty of LM. one of the people there that i admire most is arlene maneja. she is such an amazing woman. during her time in UST (as a student) she was already central student council president. she's also one of the most outstanding students in the philippines. she graduated magna cum laude sa LM which is a very rare case, considering how hard and tough the faculty is and she also graduated magna cum laude sa UST faculty of civil law. despite passing ateneo and UP (which are the best performing law schools according to the bar exams), she still chose UST. thomasian na thomasian talaga siya since high school.

ever since high school ust na siya. and she graduated valedictorian.

i have this classmate ngayon, lagi syang kinocompare kay maneja because of her excellent performance in her entire college. imagine i-flat 1 ba naman ang lahat ng sem.haha. we are expecting her to graduate magna cum laude or summa cum laude.

btw, thomas, decided ka na ba kung sang school ka? hehe, dito nagtanong eh

[Thoma§]

i already said my answer.

well, i hope she (your classmate) will decide to stay with UST for her law studies. i remember pa nga a person from AB (graduated with highest honors pa 'yun) who passed for enrollment in UP. UST tried to persuade him to stay with UST, pero siyempre, UP nga naman 'yun and mas makakatipid pa siya. He was a topnotcher for UP (2000 ata if i'm not mistaken). sana, UST would provide more facilties and more money for civil law. ang UP, may law center pa and they take care of their law students, sana sa UST din ganoon. puro medical courses, engineering, pre-med and archi lang kasi ang binibigyan nila ng funds.

[Thoma§]

btw, Thomas, have you decided where to pursue your "Bachelor of Law" degree yet?
by the way, i don't know why you placed brackets sa Bachelor of Law. just in case you are being sarcastic, i could not add "s" because of space constraints. try using the user cp.

hay, dapat siguro, LL.B. na lang ang isulat ko :D

[CPA_LLB]

teka, 2002 ba nag-top si arlene maneja or 2003? when i was in the ateneo professional schools building in rockwell, i saw some atenean law students reading their law/college magazine (o kung ano man ang tawag nila doon). the cover had atty. arlene maneja and the other atenean bar topnotcher. ang pagkakaalala ko, maneja topped the bar in 2002, di ba?

^It's "The Practice" magazine - August to September 2004 issue. It's a lesiure magazine for lawyers and not the college magazine of Ateneo. The magazine featured the bar topnotchers for years 2002 and 2003 in that issue.

[Thoma§]

ah ok. sorry, 'di pa ako law student to know that, but i do go to different universities for some reasons and i observe little details i see around (lalo na 'pag magazines and campus newspapers which i love to read).

[paralusi]

by the way, i don't know why you placed brackets sa Bachelor of Law. just in case you are being sarcastic, i could not add "s" because of space constraints. try using the user cp.

hay, dapat siguro, LL.B. na lang ang isulat ko :D

don't mind me. i just have this weird habit of using a set of quotation marks to enclose direct quotations.

[Thoma§]

yeah, i know that. kaso, i can't help it but associate your use of quotation marks to sarcasm.

[Hisbenz]

ano yung first name ni atty. syquia, hisbenz?

uh, atty syquia pala is the pioneer of 'lawyer's review"

[Thoma§]

Kung ako sa yo threadstarter, tanungin mo mga mahilig mag-tagalog dito kung saan sila nag-tapos. Siguradong barok yong mga yon. Kung anong school i-sagot nila, huwag na huwag kang mag-aaral don. Kung hindi, magiging barok ka rin.
nakakainis talaga itong post na ito. walang masama kung mag-tagalog. kahit ateneo, pinamumugaran ng mga manunulat sa filipino at batid nila ang kahalagahan ng wikang filipino sa ating pagka-makabayan. center of excellence pa nga ang ateneo courtesy of TRUE filipinos who love their language like michael coroza and bienvenido lumbera who are also THOMASIANS at lalong hindi sila barok.

teka, filipino ka rin, 'di ba? you also belong to a third-world country.

and you are for "god and country"? :eyecrazy: how about "man for others"? :splat:

[Paris CAC]

I'm not an LM major, but judging from the posts here, I think UST and Ateneo are both good schools when it comes to LM. But, does it follow na when you take your LM in Ateneo (or UST), your chances of getting accepted in the Ateneo (or UST) Law School is high as compared to students from other schools?

[paralusi]

and you are for "god and country"? :eyecrazy: how about "man for others"? :splat:

sabi ni limasawa:

I graduated from La Salle [...]

[Thoma§]

It's easy to pass the UST law examination but it doesn't mean that it's easy to stay. Usually, they start with 10 sections, and next year, 6 sections na lang 'yun (parang sa UST nursing). Sa ateneo, it's a little harder to get in and it's also harder to stay. Ateneo has a better performance/record naman talaga sa bar, so 'yun.

[Thoma§]

i don't care where he graduated. i love writing in filipino and making english more superior to our own language is an insult not just to UST/Ateneo but also to the Philippines. kaya 'di tayo umaasenso.

[Thoma§]

sabi ni limasawa:
i don't remember reading that (in this thread at least).

anyway, sana may mag-post nung curriculum ng la salle and san beda. san beda also has a good LM program.

[paralusi]

i don't remember reading that (in this thread at least).


you are right. it is in another thread.

http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7635580&postcount=6

[Jesuit]

jesuit,

you can go to the www.ateneo.edu website and look for the link to the john gokongwei school of management site. a copy of the LM curriculum is in there.

re admu's LM program, i think that now it has metamorphosed into a business course that incidentally has a lot of law units. although it can be a pre-law course, it is not primarily designed to be such. despite this, however, several of its graduates have gone on to top the bar exams. those that did not take up law, however, are now doing very well in other fields. i can say without reservation that it is a very good course, having graduated with an LM degree from the ateneo in the early 80's.

it would have helped if you had attended the jgsom open house, as the people there would have answered all of your questions, and then some. but since you have already decided -- welcome to the ateneo! magiging kaklase ka ng anak ko sa june. :)

thanks. di ako naka-attend ng jgsom eh!

i think i love the electives of ateneo.


see you soon ateneo

[Limasawa]

nakakainis talaga itong post na ito. walang masama kung mag-tagalog. kahit ateneo, pinamumugaran ng mga manunulat sa filipino at batid nila ang kahalagahan ng wikang filipino sa ating pagka-makabayan. center of excellence pa nga ang ateneo courtesy of TRUE filipinos who love their language like michael coroza and bienvenido lumbera who are also THOMASIANS at lalong hindi sila barok.

teka, filipino ka rin, 'di ba? you also belong to a third-world country.

and you are for "god and country"? :eyecrazy: how about "man for others"? :splat:

Exactly the thinking of an Indio :naughty:

Yes, I am a Filipino and I stand for God and Country. Talking in Tagalog will not make me Filipino which incidentally is also the first language of rapists of the Philippine economy both dead and in death row. Neither will bashing and aren't we all in his own little way. 'Til the next rush of angst ... your honor ...

[Krazie_bone]

i already said my answer.

well, i hope she (your classmate) will decide to stay with UST for her law studies. i remember pa nga a person from AB (graduated with highest honors pa 'yun) who passed for enrollment in UP. UST tried to persuade him to stay with UST, pero siyempre, UP nga naman 'yun and mas makakatipid pa siya. He was a topnotcher for UP (2000 ata if i'm not mistaken). sana, UST would provide more facilties and more money for civil law. ang UP, may law center pa and they take care of their law students, sana sa UST din ganoon. puro medical courses, engineering, pre-med and archi lang kasi ang binibigyan nila ng funds.


Yes, yung nag-bar topnotcher ng 2000 graduated with a degree in Economics sa UST, tapos sa UP nag-law. Naglagay pa nga ng streamer sa harapan ng St. Raymund's building in recognition of his feat. I forgot his name, though.

[Hisbenz]

I'm not an LM major, but judging from the posts here, I think UST and Ateneo are both good schools when it comes to LM.

yes, definitely!

[Thoma§]

^^ yihee!! proud siya. hahaha joke.

[atenean_blooded]

thanks. di ako naka-attend ng jgsom eh!

i think i love the electives of ateneo.


see you soon ateneo

You love the electives, eh?

Try taking Calasanz's "Ethics of Elfland," for an interesting Philo elective.

But really. Since you seem bent on attending the Ateneo, I suggest you worry first about surviving your second year accounting.

But then again, Lek-lek would say that surviving accounting is surviving something straightforward (or, if you end up under the wonderful Dr. Ibarra, straightforward, straightupward, straightsideward, straightdownward, and so on.).

Oh, and be thankful you don't have Mr. Ang for Marketing.

Pero kunin mo si Lek-lek. Saka si Aly Yap. :D

Tama na. Baka patayin na ako ng teachers kong nagpe-PEx. :D

[paralusi]

You love the electives, eh?

Try taking Calasanz's "Ethics of Elfland," for an interesting Philo elective.


during my time, we avoided anything with "calasanz" on it. things might have changed since then.

:D

[Thoma§]

I didn't know na nagtuturo pala si Lek-Lek sa Ateneo.

[CPA_LLB]

anyway, sana may mag-post nung curriculum ng la salle and san beda. san beda also has a good LM program.

San Beda started to offer its Legal Management course just 2 years ago (school year 2003-2004).

As far as i remember, San Beda's LM program has core law subjects patterned after the law subjects in San Beda's College of Law. The law subjects include the following: Obligations and Contracts, Sales, Negotiable Instruments, Banking & Insurance, Partenrship & Agency, Corporation Law, Criminal LAw, Constitutional Law, Taxation Law, Labor Law, Administrative Research, Legal Research & Writing.

If compared with law school subjects, the law subjects of the LM program are essentially civil law, commercial law, taxation, and labor law subjects together with criminal and constitutional law subjects. Mas maliliit nga lang yung units for the subject (not more than 3 units for a subject).

Incidentally, the business law components including Taxation and Labor law are subjects that are part of the curriculum of other business courses (either all or some).

The LM program also has accounting subjects (Fundamentals and Financial Accounting), Logic and Philosophy courses, business subjects (management, marketing, business policy, business finance, human behaviour/organization management) and additional communication skills subjects (speech/public speaking/business writing). No need to mention the general education subjects .

The Legal Management program was designed as a business course and as a pre-law course.

[Thoma§]

^^CPA_LLB Even if it's new, i know it's good kasi patterned siya sa SBC Law. Tanong ko lang pala kung ano 'yung Seminar I-IV sa SBC Law curriculum. Kakabasa ko lang kasi ng curriculum of SBC, Ateneo and UST.

[Hisbenz]

^^ yihee!! proud siya. hahaha joke.


:crazytongue: :crazytongue:

[Hisbenz]

San Beda started to offer its Legal Management course just 2 years ago (school year 2003-2004).

As far as i remember, San Beda's LM program has core law subjects patterned after the law subjects in San Beda's College of Law. The law subjects include the following: Obligations and Contracts, Sales, Negotiable Instruments, Banking & Insurance, Partenrship & Agency, Corporation Law, Criminal LAw, Constitutional Law, Taxation Law, Labor Law, Administrative Research, Legal Research & Writing.

If compared with law school subjects, the law subjects of the LM program are essentially civil law, commercial law, taxation, and labor law subjects together with criminal and constitutional law subjects. Mas maliliit nga lang yung units for the subject (not more than 3 units for a subject).

Incidentally, the business law components including Taxation and Labor law are subjects that are part of the curriculum of other business courses (either all or some).

The LM program also has accounting subjects (Fundamentals and Financial Accounting), Logic and Philosophy courses, business subjects (management, marketing, business policy, business finance, human behaviour/organization management) and additional communication skills subjects (speech/public speaking/business writing). No need to mention the general education subjects .

The Legal Management program was designed as a business course and as a pre-law course.


Is the sbc legal management now member of the ALMAP (association of Legal Management of the Philippines)?

[CPA_LLB]

^^CPA_LLB Even if it's new, i know it's good kasi patterned siya sa SBC Law. Tanong ko lang pala kung ano 'yung Seminar I-IV sa SBC Law curriculum. Kakabasa ko lang kasi ng curriculum of SBC, Ateneo and UST.

^i agree. San Beda's Legal Management program/curriculum is good and very promising considering the core subjects, faculty line-up and academic profile of the students. Also, since legal education is a core competence of San Beda, the school's legal management program should be as competitive.

The subjects Seminar I-IV in the College of Law are actually Theology subjects. Seminar I - Old and New Testament, Sem II - Morality, Seminar III - Justice, Seminar IV - Church doctrines. Up to second year law yung subjects.

[CPA_LLB]

Is the sbc legal management now member of the ALMAP (association of Legal Management of the Philippines)?

No idea. Is this an organization of schools offering a legal management course?

You mentioned an average grade requirement in UST for legal management majors, what is the grade requirement? Up to what year level is it enforced?

[Thoma§]

^i agree. San Beda's Legal Management program/curriculum is good and very promising considering the core subjects, faculty line-up and academic profile of the students. Also, since legal education is a core competence of San Beda, the school's legal management program should be as competitive.

The subjects Seminar I-IV in the College of Law are actually Theology subjects. Seminar I - Old and New Testament, Sem II - Morality, Seminar III - Justice, Seminar IV - Church doctrines. Up to second year law yung subjects.
i see. kung mag-san beda pala ako, may review pa rin pala ng theology.

i had 5 theology subjects in my bachelors degree already; all are similar to SBC's theology subjects.

[Hisbenz]

No idea. Is this an organization of schools offering a legal management course?

You mentioned an average grade requirement in UST for legal management majors, what is the grade requirement? Up to what year level is it enforced?

yes, it is an organization for schools offering legal management.

in the old curriculum, to enter the legal management department, you have to have at least 1.5 weighted average or Up, it is a requirement to further screen the students. Actually it was a quota course.

to the question up to what year it is enforced, as long as you have entered the LM department, you should not fail 3 subjects, or else you'll be debarred not only in LM but in UST.

in my batch now, many of my classmates will not graduate because of failures and im so sad about it.

[the_red_one]

yes, it is an organization for schools offering legal management.

in the old curriculum, to enter the legal management department, you have to have at least 1.5 weighted average or Up, it is a requirement to further screen the students. Actually it was a quota course.

to the question up to what year it is enforced, as long as you have entered the LM department, you should not fail 3 subjects, or else you'll be debarred not only in LM but in UST.

in my batch now, many of my classmates will not graduate because of failures and im so sad about it.

what? 1,5 average to be admitted? i think this is an exaggeration cause if that would be the case, then almost all of the grads of LM would be cum laudes at least....i am from the old curiculum and admission to LM is noit that strict! and the 3 subject failure and the double fail policy is of general application and does not apply only to LM..just to let the truth be known

[atenean_blooded]

during my time, we avoided anything with "calasanz" on it. things might have changed since then.

:D

Well, people now fight over his class slots, as well as those of Fr. Dacanay's. But then again, it's still NEVER ARCILLA for History.

[Bright_Blue]

my friends from ust and dlsu say ust and dlsu LM programs are bulok.

[Hisbenz]

what? 1,5 average to be admitted? i think this is an exaggeration cause if that would be the case, then almost all of the grads of LM would be cum laudes at least....i am from the old curiculum and admission to LM is noit that strict! and the 3 subject failure and the double fail policy is of general application and does not apply only to LM..just to let the truth be known

it was in the old curriculum and that's what i read in amicus before. correct me if im wrong.

btw, most of the cum laudes in magna cum laudes in AB came from LM, just for the record, fyi. im not saying that other course does not represent any. a lot also came from journ, philo, pol sci, lit and bes.

and it does not follow that entering the LM dept will assure you of graduating on time and with honors. to let you know, at some point you should be aware that it also depends on your field of excellence. e kung you're good in writing, then you'll defenitely excel in journ, so on.

kaya nga i reiterated na debarred ka sa ust if you fail 3 subj. and that is the general policy of the university. i never said specific requirement grade so as to maintain the LM dept only.

[Thoma§]

^^ writing is not exclusive to journalism. however, if you really want to be well-rounded in the humanities like history, literature/criticism, current events, even business (business journalism) and the languages, journalism is not a bad choice--ESPECIALLY, if it's THOMASIAN journalism which started, lorded and defined it all.

A journalist is considered the JACK OF ALL TRADES but he is a MASTER OF NONE.

The curriculum of UST is strong sa humanities. In line with this, I wish to raise my dissent sa clamor of some students in AB to remove the spanish subject. Ang laki kaya ng naitutulong noon para maisabuhay ang kasaysayan ng pilipinas (na hindi naman maitatatwa na ang español ay nakapiit na sa ating kamalayan) at magpunyagi ang pag-aaral ng relihiyon sa Santo Tomas, na ang karamihan ay nasusulat sa latin at español. Karagdagan pa diyan, ang pag-aaral ng español sa UST ay isang pagpapalago sa kakayahan ng isang tomasino sa larangan ng pag-aaral ng humanities lalo na sa europa. Without spanish in our curriculum, thomasians will have a hard time understanding classical works. Even Nick Joaquin, whose works mainly focus on the spanish culture of the philippines, found grandeur in the language. IBA TALAGA 'PAG AB NG UST. LINANGAN NG MGA TAO NG SINING, PANITIKAN AT LETRAS.

[Hisbenz]

UST Legal Management Faculty

Abadilla, Franklin, A.B., Ll.B.

Banzon, Gerardo, A.B. Ll. B.

Chua, Antonio A.B. J.D.

Culling Lowell A.B. J.D.

Dela Cruz,Jr. Enrique, A.B. Ll.B. M.A.

Gallego, Geronimo B.S.C.

Jimenez, Danielito, B.S.E., Ll.B.

Lee, Maximo B.S.E.

Maneja, Arlene A.B. Ll.B.

Martin, Edwin A.B. M.A.

Rabago, Florendo A.B. M.A. Ph.D.

Santiago, Dennis A.B. Ll.B.

Santos, Alain JoMarie A.B.

Syquia, Jose Luis A.B. Ll.B. M.A.

Torres, Oscar A.B.,M.A.*

[lucent1425]

ano ba 'yan, naki-sali na naman ang UST, feeling talaga !!!

[voltaire_mad]

ano ba 'yan, naki-sali na naman ang UST, feeling talaga !!!

Well, kasali naman talaga ang UST. The thread involves the legal management courses of ADMU, UST and DLSU. Tama na kasi bashing. Such immaturity.

[intensity1214.]

UST talaga eh.

la salle puede na rin.

'yung iba, gastos lang 'yun.

:)

[ROYALblood04]

UST talaga eh.

la salle puede na rin.

'yung iba, gastos lang 'yun.

:)

What is the vision of the Legal Management program of UST? is it a management program that puts law as their major? or is the program designed to be the perfect pre-law program?

napansin ko kasi na kulang sa quantitative methods yung Legal Management program ng UST... wala man lang calculus.

[Hisbenz]

Aside from the fact that it is the course in the Faculty of Arts and Letters (AB) which offers two distinct, yet equally related subject matters; it also serves as a tool in equipping young and idealistic students to be good lawyers and successful business managers in the next frontier. Better said, LM students seem to be given the privilege to have the best of both worlds. so it is designed to be both the perfect pre-law program and business/management program as well.

[the_red_one]

Aside from the fact that it is the course in the Faculty of Arts and Letters (AB) which offers two distinct, yet equally related subject matters; it also serves as a tool in equipping young and idealistic students to be good lawyers and successful business managers in the next frontier. Better said, LM students seem to be given the privilege to have the best of both worlds. so it is designed to be both the perfect pre-law program and business/management program as well. actually it is a confused major...LM students should not be given the illusion that they have an advantage in law school cause they dont! Ano ba talaga major nila Law o management?

[Hisbenz]

actually it is a confused major...LM students should not be given the illusion that they have an advantage in law school cause they dont! Ano ba talaga major nila Law o management?

In defense to it

Some say that most LM students turn out to be half baked learners after finishing the course-a difficult one. They blurt this out maybe because their course focuses only in one subject matter concluding that unlike the LM course which consists of two subject matters, they can squeeze out the very essence. That we are susceptible to dwell more on one subject matter, say the Legal side or the Management aspect, and completely neglecting one from the other is baseless. they think that there is an imbalance existing in our major. Yet, this would be irrelevant because factually, we can testify that we can still get the most out of our course even though we must concentrate on two major subjects. That is our edge.

[Hisbenz]

Still. others would tell most of us, especially to those who have plans to enter law school, that the subjects we took for four years in college will only be good for the first two weeks in law school, with the condition that if we get that lucky.

That is not what we believe it will become. That is not what we believe we will become. Besides there are a number of considerbale times when our professors would teach us certain principles, which we can use whether we plan to take up law or not; admitting thereafter that they never had the opportunity to learn them during their law school years, for the simple reason that their professors never disclosed to them. Again, it is our advantage.

[paralusi]

now, i'm confused.

[Hisbenz]

now, i'm confused.


confused in what bro?

[Thoma§]

don't mind him. it's hedonism--clad in a clandestine fashion. ;)

[Thoma§]

Hisbenz may master's degree pala si sir enrique "buco" de la cruz. napakatalinong nilalang talaga. magaling na magturo, masipag pa mag-aral.

[Hisbenz]

yup, at sobrang galing magturo. one of the best.

[paralusi]

don't mind him. it's hedonism--clad in a clandestine fashion. ;)

you have to admit that some pleasurable activities are best conducted in secrecy.

but, i digress.

[Thoma§]

kuya paralusi i am very interested to learn your style because you seem to be the authority in sarcasm. it (the mastery of the skill) might prove useful for me when i'm in law school next semester.

i fervently hope, succored by your auspicious guidance, that i can circumvent my professors and wheedle them to believe that i am right all the time. ;)

hisbenz unfortunately, i didn't have sir buco as my professor but i do know a lot of information about him that were related to me by some of his students and of course, because of his commendable achievements. despite not being able to have him as a mentor, i can say that i also had a great learning experience under an equally competent professor rey trillana. no regrets! everything he taught us became part and parcel of who i am today. i enjoyed the thick readings in political dynamics and the weekly recitations.

oh how i would recall some students in arts and letters trembling whenever they are confronted by academic nervousness which they themselves wrought for not preparing beforehand. admittedly, i also had days that i was not able to finish the readings (because they are damn long and i have to attend to seven other demanding subjects) but i guess i was just lucky then for i was not called to recite when i was not prepared.

next semester is definitely going to be entirely different for me. i've learned my lesson. i remember one professor who told me this: "Treat every quiz and recitation day as if it were your last day--meaning, finals". i never forget vehement statements and quotes (i am trained to be a journalist).

[Hisbenz]

UST Legal Management Faculty

Abadilla, Franklin, A.B., Ll.B.

Banzon, Gerardo, A.B. Ll. B.

Chua, Antonio A.B. J.D.

Culling Lowell A.B. J.D.

Dela Cruz,Jr. Enrique, A.B. Ll.B. M.A.

Gallego, Geronimo B.S.C.

Jimenez, Danielito, B.S.E., Ll.B.

Lee, Maximo B.S.E.

Maneja, Arlene A.B. Ll.B.

Martin, Edwin A.B. M.A.

Rabago, Florendo A.B. M.A. Ph.D.

Santiago, Dennis A.B. Ll.B.

Santos, Alain JoMarie A.B.

Syquia, Jose Luis A.B. Ll.B. M.A.

Torres, Oscar A.B.,M.A.*


btw, atty. syquia is one of the authors of the procurement act (ra 9184)

[Hulk]

Why not simply take an accounting course? For example sa UP BSBAA, may required 12 units of Law and 6 units of Taxation, plus you will get tested pa sa CPA Board Exam.


:frank:

[plumpratt]

ano ba 'yan, naki-sali na naman ang UST, feeling talaga !!!

hobby nila yan e :lol:

[plokplok000]

back in the topic guys...

ATeneo will always be number one!
in any aspects..kaya mamatay po sa inggitz yung iba dyan.. :rolleyes:

[plokplok000]

hobby nila yan e :lol:

hmmm... question po... ano pinagkaiba hobby at habby?
i thought its habby devah?

anywayz... If its from Ateneo, it must be good.



One Big Fight po for us!

[Hisbenz]

babuyin ba nag thread, if you guys can't say anything good, spare the thread. pare pareho lang kayong ewan. mga baboy.

[Hisbenz]

so how's the LM people here?

[apir_tayo85]

matanung lang, nagulat aku sa curriculum nang UST LM pag dating nag 4th yr, papanu itinuturo nang sabay-sabay yung mga mag kakaibang batas sa isang sem. kc may kailala akung LM nang ibang skul dalawang law subj na mag kasunod maraming bumagsak kaya hinihiwalay.

tapos diba before mo mas maiintindihan ang law on sales at negotiable inst dapat alam mu muna ang oblicon, papanu napapagsabay yun sa isang sem? ang galing....

[Hisbenz]

matanung lang, nagulat aku sa curriculum nang UST LM pag dating nag 4th yr, papanu itinuturo nang sabay-sabay yung mga mag kakaibang batas sa isang sem. kc may kailala akung LM nang ibang skul dalawang law subj na mag kasunod maraming bumagsak kaya hinihiwalay.

tapos diba before mo mas maiintindihan ang law on sales at negotiable inst dapat alam mu muna ang oblicon, papanu napapagsabay yun sa isang sem? ang galing....

oblication and contracts are taken during the 1st sem of senior year. while the law on sales and negotiale instruments are taken on the second sem.

that's why, the senior year of LM is one of a hell. i suggest they should move some of the law subjects to second year and/or the junior year.

[YellowArcher333]

LA SALLE po ang best in this fields!

[samantha_jones]

any school is okay but since I am from UST (that's not my course but i do belong to the same college), i'll speak only of UST-LM.

i can say that the university offers a good legal management program even if, in my knowledge, it is one of the newest courses in the faculty of arts and letters. UST-LM is clearly showing signs of progress (following other older & excellent UST-AB programs such as Literature, Journalism and Philosophy) and that one was already stated by hisbenz. they also have an ustetika winner, rosmon tuason; if i'm not mistaken, he's now the president of the UP Writers Club.

in addition, all of the faculty members are practicing lawyers and i can definitely say that they are tough faculty members who are not the bookish types. i can say so because i had some of them as my professors as well. UST-LM is excellent and the curriculum is well-planned.

As for DLSU and ADMU, of course, they definitely offer excellent LM but UST is more practical in terms of the tuition-fee.

Actually expensive na din ngayon sa UST when I took my one subject thesis I paid almost 30 thou for 5 measly units. Share ko lang. I am not related to any LM course in all of the schools mentioned but I'm a thomasian from a different college...it dawned on me baka ni-rip off kami ng college ko ah...haha.

[mind_epicycles]

ateneo offers a more rigorous program in general...

taking 6 units of literature is no walk in the park... same goes for philo and theo... kahit super konti ng units, super dami ng dapat mong i-accomplish...

assertion: if a business program (such as LM) has no calculus, then that program is not worth taking because graduates of such programs will be really crippled should they opt to nail down an MBA. although MBA courses focus on functional management areas, I suppose na advanced math methods (such as optimization of functions of three or more variables-learned in calculus) will find its use in such courses.

[hardinero]

curious lang ako, waht are the the job oppurtunities for a LM grad?

[Hisbenz]

curious lang ako, waht are the the job oppurtunities for a LM grad?

para legal, marketing-related, or you can put up your own business. in my case, marketing officer. :)

[markanthonychan]

try feu. tried and tested na ang business courses nla which produces the likes of Alfonso Yuchengco III, Henry Sy, Lucio Tan, etc. malay mo baka maging business mogul ka rin in the future.

[markanthonychan]

try feu. tried and tested na ang business courses nla which produces the likes of Alfonso Yuchengco III, Henry Sy, Lucio Tan, etc. malay mo baka maging business mogul ka rin in the future.

[Hisbenz]

try feu. tried and tested na ang business courses nla which produces the likes of Alfonso Yuchengco III, Henry Sy, Lucio Tan, etc. malay mo baka maging business mogul ka rin in the future.


i saw their curriculum and their roster of faculties. not impressive as DLSU, UST and ADMU, really.

actually the feu LM conducted/hosted the first LM battle of the intelex last March and it's sad to know that the FEU delegates cannot answer the simple questions on obligation and contracts. New ara delegates were actually better that time. UST and DLSU managed to compete in the finals.

[nico_pdoms]

i am in law scool right now, i have classmates who are LM major from admu, ust, dlsu... which is the best? depends what are you looking for. both ADMU and UST have programs that when an LM major graduates, the degree can stand on its own... but if you really want to pursue a career in law school, i suggest you go to DLSU, my classmates from DLSU have a very very solid background when it comes to law subjects.. and the professors, they tell me, are as good as the law school's teachers themselves... so the LM of three school are great...

[NCPAGer]

My cousin is a grad of UST LM and i think he benefitted a lot from it. Basta, gumaling kc siya eh. Sa amin naman sa UP, the best na pre-law ang public administration coz they offer law subjects with high caliber law professors.

Pero bago pa ako awayin, my answer to the question is UST.

[Jesuit]

i am enjoying my stay here in ateneo (legal management)

[lovelty]

up!!! up!!!

[lovelty]

Ei guys, this is not actually my account. Im just borrowing it for this post. What jobs are waiting once you graduate from LM without proceeding to law anymore?

[grapes_of_]

ateneo, then la salle.

nothing follows.

[saglop]

double post

[saglop]

Ateneo's LM program is for those who want to work in the corporate world with "a working knowledge of the legal environment within which all enterprises must operate" (from the JGSOM website). BTW, Ateneo's LM program is not BS Legal Management. It's BS Management, major in Legal Management. Basically, it's a management course with law classes. It CAN but IS NOT meant to be a pre-law course. Also, Ateneo uses liberal education meaning they teach you a little of everything instead of everything about something (at least that's how JGSOM's dean explained it).

I saw DLSU's LM curriculum and it has A LOT of law classes. It looks like it really is meant to be a pre-law course. UST's program is probably similar.

As for job opportunities, LM graduates can have pretty much the same jobs as Management graduates.

[Gospel of Judas]

Jack of all trades, master of none. :D

[star_studded_21]

actually i all passed the 3 schools. LM lahat kinuha ko.

my dad wants me to go to ateneo my mom naman sa ust daw. i heard that ust has a good program in LM. my cousin kasi is from ust LM.

pero hello ateneo na yun, kaya sa ateneo na lang ako.

can anyone here post their curriculum?



nagtanong ka pa.

[Coke-aholic]

ano ka ba? alternick yan ni student_01 noh... UST tsaka Ateneo ang sinasamba niyang skul.. ahihihihi

[Gospel of Judas]

ano ka ba? alternick yan ni student_01 noh... UST tsaka Ateneo ang sinasamba niyang skul.. ahihihihi
Isn't it a perfect match? Ahihihi. :rotflmao:

[Jesuit]

nagtanong ka pa.

i was asking for the ateneo's LM curriculum, dunderhead:lol:

[Jesuit]

ano ka ba? alternick yan ni student_01 noh... UST tsaka Ateneo ang sinasamba niyang skul.. ahihihihi

:D :lol: :rotflmao:

[Coke-aholic]

hi student_01 ahihihi

[student_01]

o, dinamay na naman ba ako, baket ba hinde niyo ako pwede pansinin?

so proud ka na niyan na taga La salle ka? talaga lang ha..

kahet kelan hinde talaga ako pwede ma out of the scence dito sa pEX.

ano ba yun?.. atsaka one more thing medyo busy ako kaya sorry i cannot visit

or open up my account once in a week.

[Gospel of Judas]

Coke-aholic, prrrt! May napipikon. *peace*

:rotflmao:

[Coke-aholic]

hahaha... log out, log in si student_01 aka Jesuit aka preacher000 (kahit ano pang pangalan niyan)

ewan ko lang ha... ndi ko kasi alam ibig sbhin ng "out of the scence" :D

[rx_Tomasino]

student_01, can you please enlighten our minds on what "out of the scence" means? Ganyan ba ang mga tinuturo sa La Salle Antipolo?

[Coke-aholic]

hindi kaya... sa UST kaya siya... Polsci pa nga e.. ikaw talaga... ahihiihih ibinigay na nga niya yung ID number niya.

Basta student_01 aka Jesuit aka preacher = UST...
ahihiihh

[rx_Tomasino]

kahit naman sino kayang kaya mag-imbento ng student number eh.

;)

[Coke-aholic]

Ah basta UST siya... at for sure doon siya mag-gragraduate... sabay kayo rx_tomasino maggraduate... ahihihih bestpren talaga... :D

[babavoom]

LA SALLE pa ren!

sa CBE yata yang LMG kaya for sure its the best! haha!

CBE rocksssssssssss!
ANIMO LA SALLE!!

[rx_Tomasino]

Ah basta UST siya... at for sure doon siya mag-gragraduate... sabay kayo rx_tomasino maggraduate... ahihihih bestpren talaga... :D
ayoko nang kumausap sa nagpupumilit. :rolleyes:

[Coke-aholic]

student_01 aka Jesuit aka preacher , namimiss ka na ni rx_tomasino. huwag ka na magaral, alam naman namin na hindi ka nagaaral like doi... ahihiih

[Jesuit]

^^dunderhead

[Coke-aholic]

ayan na si student_01. ahihiih

ask lang, hindi ka ba nahihirapan maglog in at logout? my gosh ahihiihh

[Jesuit]

ikaw buti may pambayad ka sa pagrerent ng internet?

[Coke-aholic]

hahahahhahaha joker ka ha... ahiihihihi funny ha :D

[FerdinandMarcos]

you should also consider UP and San Beda for LM course

[petrus]

^is that a punch line?

[babavoom]

any courses in CBE ROCKS!!!!!!!!

LMG is one of them. ;)

ANIMO LA SALLE!

[Gospel of Judas]

any courses in CBE ROCKS!!!!!!!!

LMG is one of them. ;)

ANIMO LA SALLE!
You could be the first scholar in Troll Management! :rotflmao:

[babavoom]

^^ duh! stalking, eh? :rolleyes:

your from school by the way? baka **** taga Ubelt ka lang. :lol:

im not bashing! you started it first.

aNiMo LaSaLlE!

[Coke-aholic]

You could be the first scholar in Troll Management! :rotflmao:

I disagree. si student_01 aka Jesuit aka preacher ang first scholar in Troll Management ahihihiih...

[student_01]

whatever Coke-aholic!

this is ******** and nonsense.

tanugin mo pa ang moderator

anyway

coke-aholic, sige para hinde ka na magalit saken, ako nga si preacher000, pate si jesuit, ako na lahat promise

o yan, masaya ka na? ako na lahat pate si rx tomasino, o baka naman pate si kuya danny na moderator ako din,

o yan masaya ka na? ako na lahat, i am using all these alternicks


peace out

[Gospel of Judas]

whatever Coke-aholic!

this is ******** and nonsense.

tanugin mo pa ang moderator

anyway

coke-aholic, sige para hinde ka na magalit saken, ako nga si preacher000, pate si jesuit, ako na lahat promise

o yan, masaya ka na? ako na lahat pate si rx tomasino, o baka naman pate si kuya danny na moderator ako din,

o yan masaya ka na? ako na lahat, i am using all these alternicks


peace out
Mas masisiyahan kami pag ma-baban ka. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

[Jesuit]

o ayan black ship, online kami pareho ng student whatever! dunderhead

[Gospel of Judas]

o ayan black ship, online kami pareho ng student whatever! dunderhead
Edi pati ikaw kastiguhin na din. :p :lol: :rotflmao:

[Coke-aholic]

Pareho magsalita si student_01 tsaka si Jesuit... Hay alternicks talaga... Isama niyo narin si preacher...

log in log out ahihihi

[Jesuit]

oie judas, huwag masyadong maging black ship ha!

[Gospel of Judas]

In or out? :rotflmao:

[ratusratus]

imho, it's better to have a specialized undergrad before taking law like envtl sci etc...