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wafungbata

Feb 24, 2005, 05:38 PM

im a graduating high school student..

i managed to gain acceptance into ateneo de manila university and up-manila and UST... but i already lowered down my choices to admu and up-manila... kasi dito lang sa dalawa na to ko talaga gusto...

ECE sa ADMU at Pharmacy sa UP-Manila ang napasahan ko...

but i have a problem, i dont know which one to go to...

san niyo sa tingin mas ok?!

thanks in advance!!

mac_bolan00

Feb 24, 2005, 05:57 PM

ummm... i think you should post the question at either atenista.net or peyups.com. choose only one site, mind you. that'll give the whole thing objectivity. ;)

wafungbata

Feb 24, 2005, 06:44 PM

hehe.. baka po kasi maging biased sila? ryt? syempre pg nsa up sila, they will be in favor of up.. sa ateneo din..

Altwegg

Feb 24, 2005, 11:25 PM

Eh saan mo ba sa tingin mo mag-eenjoy ka? Duon ka.

:)

wafungbata

Feb 24, 2005, 11:53 PM

un nga ang di ko alam eh.. hehe...

san ba talaga better..? based on my course po..

zen_g

Feb 25, 2005, 12:43 PM

tidus1203

Feb 25, 2005, 04:21 PM

Ateneo is not known for its engineering dapat sa DLSU na lang. Pero thats beside the point. Seriously if you love both professions just go to UP Manila since ok ang pharmacy and medical sciences dito.

blueSUCKS!

Feb 25, 2005, 04:33 PM

Hmmm, actually hindi dapat school ang pagpipilian mo kungdi 'yong course kung saan mo mas gusto. Try this one, picture yourself 10 years from now, will you like the engineer in you our would you rather like to tinker with those medicines? ....... Basta kung saan ka sasaya doon ka ......
good advice *okay*

but for me:

kung sa school, syempre UP, kasi the number one in the Philippines.

kung sa course, mas kayanin ko pharmacy

kung sa profession after 10 years, depende na yan.
kung sa philippines ka, siguro ECE mas okay, but ang alam ko, 90% - 100% ng graduates ng UP Manila including pharmacy, nag-aabroad sa states kaya mas malaki kita. pero ako, i like to work in the Philippines someday kaya ECE nalang pipiliin ko since yan lang naman ang option ko.

rave

Feb 25, 2005, 10:06 PM

About ECE in ADMU, although the course itself is pretty new, Ateneo already has some experience in this field through its previous experience in handling its Computer Engineering programs. So you don't have to worry about ECE in Ateneo being "new and untested". Also, I have to note here that it's not really the school you choose that will shape your future. Both UP and Ateneo are considered top-tier Philippine schools. Kahit saan ka dyan pumasok ok lang, and what will ultimately determine your success will solely be your own efforts and talents.

Now, concerning exactly which one to choose. The only "gotcha" I can think of here is the possible expenses. Do consider that Ateneo will have higher tuition fees. But also consider that Pharmacy will probably cost more in terms of lab fees, materials, and what not. If you're like us normal folk (hehe :D), you'd want to check out the expenses list first and at least consider your funding options. Once you have that out of the way, now comes the more significant factor:

As I said, the choice of school does not matter. Choose the course that you want. Not the course that "will be competitive 5 years from now" or the course that "has higher employment options". No. The greatest factor to consider here is the field in which you have the most interest. Because after this choice, the life that will be laid before you will already be pretty much set. Don't go about regretting 30 years from now thinking about "what could have been". It's not as high-risk a choice anyway; both fields have their own roads to success.

Good luck :)

bishop

Feb 26, 2005, 03:07 AM

i have to represent, so i'd have to say go to Ateneo. :D

cccc

Feb 26, 2005, 04:23 AM

hmm... up ako pero ece ako... upm pharmacy, ayos compared to admu ece medyo relatively new... syempre kung upd ece ka, malamang dun ka na... consisitent 100% passing ang EE at ECE grads sa board exam... pero sa huli, nasa iyo pa rin yan e... ano ba interes mo? ako kaya nasa ece dahil gusto ko... well lahat naman ng schools na pinasahan ko, ece... ang problema lang, baka pag nakapasok ka na, baka mawalan ka ng gana... tulad ko... so pagisipan mo munang mabuti, hope nakatulong ako sa iyo...

Introvert_S

Feb 26, 2005, 08:21 AM

This should be easy. Mamili ako kung ano gusto mo? maging empleyado ng mercury drug o maging lineman ng PLDT/taga-repair ng celfon (joke!)

I'm an ECE alumnus so biased ako. Maraming career opportunities for ECE grads, from IT to Engineering. Kahit trabaho ng computer science graduates puwedeng gawin ng mga ECEs. Yun nga lang, di lahat ng jobs for ECEs ay okay in terms of compensation unless "lumihis ka ng landas" or mangibang bayan ka.

Anyway, isipin mo na lang kung ano ang mas "hate" mo? Chemistry o Physics? Then you decide kung anong kukunin mong course.

Good luck in whatever course you''ll choose.

barako_cafe_00

Feb 26, 2005, 08:45 AM

bakit hindi ka nag-take sa DLSU???? siguro can't afford ka noh or di kaya ng brains mo? ahihihihi
joke lang pow.

Animo La Salle!

wafungbata

Feb 26, 2005, 10:40 AM

huh? di po kasi ko umabot sa deadline ng pagpass ng application sa dlsu.. di ko alam, tapos na pala.. besides, mas gusto ko talga sa admu or up.. tsaka 1 lang klasmeyt ko na ngtest sa dlsu, wala akong kasama.. hehe.. pumasa nga ako ng acet at upcat eh..

sweet_ryan

Feb 26, 2005, 12:33 PM

attend UP Manila.

dexXA

Feb 26, 2005, 02:22 PM

millionaires na lahat ng alumni ng UP Pharmacy na nasa States nagtratrabaho. Mag pharmacy ka nalang. hindi yan based on school choice but course choice. pero kung school coice man, ang ganda ng UP Manila. prestigious yan pare!

melie

Feb 26, 2005, 03:02 PM

Ang layo naman ng courses na pinili mo sa dalawang school. Dun ka kung saang course mo gusto, pareho namang okay *** UP tsaka Ateneo eh. :)

wafungbata

Feb 27, 2005, 09:39 PM

i have a question na lang.. diba pharmacy ang course ko sa up-m...
is there a possibility na pwede kong magenrol sa ECE ng up-d provided i meet the requirements...??

Thoma§

Feb 27, 2005, 09:50 PM

sa opinion ko, pharmacy na lang. my cousin is earning so much now (has a car and a house) sa states as a pharmacist and she's so young (mid-20s).

Stirling

Feb 27, 2005, 10:10 PM

i have a question na lang.. diba pharmacy ang course ko sa up-m...
is there a possibility na pwede kong magenrol sa ECE ng up-d provided i meet the requirements...??
punta ka sa UP Reg's bukas (or ASAP) and tell them you want to have a change of course (from Pharmacy to ECE) and campus (from Manila to Diliman).

UP Reg's will check your UPG kung pasok sa least UPG score ng ECE successful applicant. Kung mas mababa ang UPG mo sa least UPG score ng ECE applicant, hindi pwede. Kailangan mas mataas ang UPG mo.

Okay ang Pharmacy sa UP. 40 applicants lang ang tinatanggap sa course na yan. At, pare, UP Manila na yan. Sikat ka dyan! Wala kanang poproblemahin sa paghahanap ng trabaho sa Pilinas man o sa ibang bansa. :)

wafungbata

Feb 27, 2005, 10:26 PM

Stirling

Feb 27, 2005, 10:38 PM

Here's the ranking of the Top 10 highest UPG cut off for this sy:[U]

1.MBB = Molecular Biology & Biotechnology (Diliman)
2. BAA = Business Administration & Accountancy (Diliman)
3. Chemical Engineering (Diliman)
4. Nursing (Manila)
5. ECE = Electronics & Communications Eng'g (Diliman)
6. Biology (Diliman)
7. Biology (Manila)
8. BS Psychology (Diliman)
9. Business Economics (Diliman)
10 Biochemistry (Manila)
11. Mathematics (Diliman)
12. Physical Therapy (Manila)

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Wafungbata,

kung napansin mo number 5 ang ECE sa may pinakamataas na UPG cut off scores, (I got this from UP Reg's mismo the other day langt) so malamang hindi pwede from Pharmacy to ECE unless maraming ECE successful applicant ang hindi tutuloy. Pumunta ka pa rin sa Reg's to verify kung may chance ka pa. wala pa naman ang start ng registration or confirmation of enrollment.

mr. yotsuya

Feb 27, 2005, 11:03 PM

i think your choices for courses are interesting! they seem to be in the opposite direction in terms of career path (ECE vs Pharmacy?). since i really don't know what you like, I think you should decide first what you really want to do with your life before deciding what school you want to go to! otherwise you might make a mistake. try finding out first from other ECE or pharmacists what they do and see what appeals to you.

(personally, i think our country needs more engineers though.hehe.....)

wafungbata

Feb 27, 2005, 11:13 PM

mr. yotsuya

Feb 27, 2005, 11:29 PM

ano na opinion niyo?

kasi i prefer ECE than pharmacy talaga.. pero kung ganun kaganda and pharmacy ng up-manila, ok *** skin kahit mag-pharmacy na ko... basta for my own good...
40 *** daw kinuha sa pharmacy at nakasama ko dun kaya ok un diba!
sige, ill ask the up reg asap kung pasok ko sa ECE nila...
kung pasok, mapapadali na pagpili ko siguro.. hehe..

heck...if you really prefer ECE, just go for it. If your half hearted about pharmacy and you would just go there because of the prestige of a school then i think that's a wrong way to plan for your future dude. how are we supposed to know what's for your own good?

anyway, i just want to say this, if you're going to take pharmacy and plan on transferring to engg in Diliman, i think you'd probably end up more on the side of chemical engg than ECE. a lot of the first year chem courses may be credited to ChE instead. also, its not easy to get high grades in any of the UP campuses so you cannot be sure if you'll qualify if the time comes. a lot of other students are also thinking about this idea and not many succeed especially since engg has some of the highest grade reqmts. it would be better if you can get in your preferred course during first year and forget about transferring courses. good luck anyway! =P

wafungbata

Feb 27, 2005, 11:36 PM

ah.. ok.. as for now nga po.. ECE pa rin ang choice ko..

Pepe

Feb 28, 2005, 06:18 AM

If you check the IEEE Spectrum Magazine and Communications of the ACM, the next big thing in technology is anything that has to do with biology and medicine.

Introvert_S

Feb 28, 2005, 06:45 AM

pwede naman sigurong through email or phone na lang tumawag sa REG no?

what do u mean?

paano un? if ever man mas mataas ang upg ko dun sa isang passer ng ECE eh i can enroll sa ECE ng up..?? pano *** nalaglag dun sa slot? diba, malalaman na nun na passed siya sa ECE tapos biglang magbabago...

di na malalaglag sa listahan ang originally admitted sa ECE program. you will be ranked with other incoming freshmen na gusto ring magpalit ng course.

anyway, kung talagang gusto mong mag-ECE, mag-inquire ka na ASAP or kung hindi ka ma-admit ka-agad, get good grades at mag shift ka next sem

Ultra_MegaStar

Feb 28, 2005, 07:33 AM

First, choose which course YOU prefer, ECE or pharmacy. That should be the basis for your decision. As for the school, Ateneo is the best but UP is also good.

xxtoyxx

Feb 28, 2005, 08:09 AM

If you like ECE, go for it! Pero siyempre biased ako, mas okay sana kung UP na school, tapos ECE pa ang course. :D I have to warn you though na mahirap i-maintain ang ECE sa UP-D... pero once makatungtong ka ng 3rd year, malalaman mo na kung tama ang pinasok mo or hindi.

Anyway, I know it would help you change your course (UPM Pharm to UPD ECE) if you are a DOST scholar. I have a friend na mataas ang naging priority sa kanya to change course (from a non-eng'g to an eng'g course, na within DEEE, ang department ng ECE) and yun nga, nakalipat siya. You have to inquire and do something about it ASAP, kasi konti ang slots for ECE. Batch namin (incoming '97) ay four blocks lang yata ang ECE (plus ilan samin naligaw sa ibang eng'g blocks). Each block ay 20-30 lang yata na students.

Pero kung going to UPD ECE won't work out, Ateneo ECE is okay din of course. Yun nga lang, di mo maeenjoy ang buwis ng taumbayan. :D Pero in the end kasi, nasa tao pa rin naman yan kung paano siya magpeperform sa chosen profession. It all boils down kung ano gusto mo gawin later sa buhay mo. :)

Good luck sa iyo.

Dacs

Feb 28, 2005, 08:29 AM

Here's the ranking of the Top 10 highest UPG cut off for this sy:[U]

1.MBB = Molecular Biology & Biotechnology (Diliman)
2. BAA = Business Administration & Accountancy (Diliman)
3. Chemical Engineering (Diliman)
4. Nursing (Manila)
5. ECE = Electronics & Communications Eng'g (Diliman)
6. Biology (Diliman)
7. Biology (Manila)
8. BS Psychology (Diliman)
9. Business Economics (Diliman)
10 Biochemistry (Manila)
11. Mathematics (Diliman)
12. Physical Therapy (Manila)

Waw, pang 3 yung course ko sa cutoff :D Good luck na lang sa kanila, at baka magaya sila sa akin bwehehehe :naughty:

wafungbata: Siempre biased ako, kaya sasabihin ko na UP piliin mo. Kaso, kung ang puso mo ay nasa ECE, then go for it. It's better to realize what you want NOW than taking something you don't like and realizing it LATER.

Pero kung DOST scholar ka, puede mo papalitan yung pharmacy to ECE. Bespren ko ganun ang ginawa (polsci -> ECE)

BENEFACTORS.

Feb 28, 2005, 10:38 AM

wafungbata, dude, go to UP Manila. It's obviously the best choice. Hindi ko nga alam ba't you're still considering ECE in Ateneo... Ang alam ko, you go to Ateneo (especially ECE) kung wala kanang option - hindi ka pumasa sa UP (at La Salle).

Ibang-iba ka, sikat ka, respetado ka, importante ka kung nasa UP ka. Bukod sa assured ka na sa 100% passing sa board exams, ang trabaho at magandang future mo ang naka-abang na sayo kung Pharmacy grad ka ng UP.

Hindi 100% ang passing sa Board Exams ang ECE ng Ateneo. At dahil wala pang course sa Ateneo na nakaka 100% sa Board Exams, malamang hindi rin makapag 100% ang passing rate ng ECE board exams ng Ateneo in the future. Allergic sila sa 100% passing rate. Dude, magtanong-tanong ka, totoo itong mga sinasabi ko. Matunog lang ang Ateneo sa Humanities, Philosophy at Law. Yung Sciences at Enginerring ng Ateneo, pinagtatawanan lang yan sa Manila. :lol:

Yung "pilot testing" na sinasabi nila kaya hindi sila nakapag 100% sa Board Exams sa ECE since the first time they sent takers, ay marketing ek-ek lang nila yan. Ganyan din yung sinabi nila noon sa Chemistry Board Exams na hanggang ngayon, more thaa 20 years ago na, hindi parin sila umaabot sa 100%! Even a course like education bihirang-bihira nila kayaning mag 100% sa Board Exams!!! Sa UP, kung meron mang isang taker na bumagsak, nagluluksa ang buong kayupihan.... :D

Kulang sa facilities ang ECE sa Ateneo at yung mga profs dun, yung iba wala man lang master's degree although graduate sila ng UP diliman.

Ang Pharmacy sa UP, established na yan noon pa. Ang employment opportunities mo pag graduate mo doon ay hindi lang sa Pilipinas kung hindi sa buong mundo. International ang recruiters ng Pharmacy and Industrial Pharmacy sa UP. You will earn much more than the combined earnings of your parents now. Ask a UP Pharmacy grad kung meron kaman mahahagilap pa na natira sa Pilipinas.:lol:

Maraming ECE grad sa Ateneo na bum hanggang ngayon. Yung hindi pumasa ng Board exams sa ECE, palamunin pa rin ng mga magulang nila. Ngayon, yung iba, nagre-review ulit pero yung iba, palabuy-labuy nalang at tambay. Gusto mo bang mangyari yan sa buhay mo? Mag Ateneo ECE ka na.

Pero kung hindi, mag UP Pharmacy ka. Assured ka ng magandang trabaho after you graduate sa Philippines man o sa England, Canada, Australia o sa USA.

BENEFACTORS.

Feb 28, 2005, 10:52 AM

First, choose which course YOU prefer, ECE or pharmacy. That should be the basis for your decision. As for the school, Ateneo is the best but UP is also good.
marunong ka pala mag advise? :glee:

imaster mo muna ang s-v agreement mo para matanggap ka sa Lancaster. :lol:

Ultra_MegaStar

Feb 28, 2005, 11:08 AM

BENEFACTORS.

Feb 28, 2005, 11:43 AM

parang gayuma ang open house sa Ateneo, you should skip attending in that spellbinding activity para hindi ka lalong "madisorriented" sa makakabuti sayo. They will only show you the "icing" of the cake - lahat superficial and they will hide the truth from you – kailangan nila ang pera mo! You will be mesmerized by those earth colors of new paints on the walls of the buildings. Itu-tour ka sa campus na more than half of the population ay grade school and high school students. :glee:

Yes, yan lang ang UNIVERSITY kuno na more than half of the population ay mga bata.:lol: Araw-araw, makikipagsabayan ka sa mga batang ito. These kids will compete with you in accessing the limited facilities and resources of the university and you'll be doing that in your whole stay in that university on a daily basis!

Again, importante din ang Board Exams, which unfortunately Ateneo is allergic to it. Like I said, a course as simple as Education can't even manage to get a 100% passing rate in the Boards, how much more a course as dreaded as ECE and which Ateneo is not known for? Think about all these things, dude.

Ang magandang gusali, maiiwan yan sa Ateneo, pero yung knowledge na yon naman talaga ang sadya mo sa unibersidad ay dala-dala mo pag alis mo, and unfortunately, hindi kaya ng isang Ateneo lang makikipag sabayan sa UP nito.

Mag Pharmacy ka na sa UP. Sikat ka na habang pinag-aaralan mo pa ito. Kakaiba ang tingin ng mga tao dyan sa Manila sayo pag UP ka, at madadala mo yang kasikatan mo hanggang pag graduate mo.

Good Luck future isko! You are a jewel of the Philippines.

barako_cafe_00

Feb 28, 2005, 12:16 PM

^^ i thought your banned already?

go La salle!

wafungbata

Feb 28, 2005, 05:01 PM

ganun ba po talaga yun? ewan ko ba.. they say that i choose my preferred course.. pero i can't decide pa talaga kung ano mas gusto ko.. ewan ko ba kung bakit...?..?..?..

my mom said na umattend daw kami sa open house.. tingnan ko na lang after nun..

diba i can request a change of course din nmn sa ateneo?

rave

Feb 28, 2005, 09:51 PM

If you check the IEEE Spectrum Magazine and Communications of the ACM, the next big thing in technology is anything that has to do with biology and medicine.
Let me just try to elaborate on this, kasi baka mapakamot kayo ng ulo kung bakit biglang may pakialam ang IEEE sa biology. There are a lot of studies in the field of electrical engineering and IT nowadays which try to understand the functional phenomena of the human body. The spectrum of research areas is so broad; we have people developing computing systems that understand and react to natural human movement (using sensors and components that mimic human physiological structures, no less), research projects that exploit the peculiarities of human perception to deliver more realistic virtual realities, and research groups developing a whole new computing paradigm that makes use of organic molecules instead of electrical charges and semiconductors. I feel that this field is more and more becoming the "fad" in electronics and IT, similar to 5 years ago, when the fad that arose was 3G and high speed telecoms.

froshie1

Mar 1, 2005, 06:38 AM

the.underworld

Mar 1, 2005, 08:17 PM

I think that you select Pharmacy in UP Manila over ECE in Ateneo since you have more options after you graduate. To tell you the truth, the campus is pretty hideous, I’ve been there myself. Grabe ang pollution (especially noise kasi katabi niya yung LRT, Taft Ave.) at masikip walang tambayan sobrang crowded sa UPM medyo unsafe yung paligid. Ok yung ECE but I recommend that you check Ateneo’s passing rate if it is comparable to other top schools in this field kasi hindi naman ito yung specialty nila. I am not bashing Ateneo, I am just being objective. Maraming magaling na taga-Ateneo.

MacTurd

Mar 2, 2005, 03:19 AM

wafungbata,

I suggest you attend the open house in Ateneo and see for yourself why the best and brightest tend to choose the Ateneo over other schools in the Philippines. Instead of listening to opinionated bashers here in PEx, go to Ateneo, meet the people (students and teachers), check out the facilities, and see for yourself why Ateneo's truly the best. This should also enlighten you as to why many people are envious of the Ateneo and insist on bashing the "Harvard of the Philippines."

Good luck!

I agree with the advice of attending the Open House in Ateneo so that you can see for yourself what it's like there. See the campus, meet the teachers and administrators, the students, and even attend some classes. Do the same for UP. Go there and see for yourself. Then, compare.

I'm sure you will be impressed by Ateneo. You'll understand why the Ateneo is called the "Harvard of the Philippines."

wafungbata

Mar 2, 2005, 10:17 PM

ok.. sa saturday na po un.. attend me..