masters or lia-com?

[cook]

help! which do u think is better? goin to UA&P for 5 years for a masteral degree or goin to DLSU for 5 years for 2 bachelors degree? (business-related)

[Ira]

Personally, I'd go for the masteral degree. A masters would give you a definite edge job-wise over other people who carry bachelor's degrees. I'm not saying that DLSU is worse than UA&P, just that, in the real world, a masters would hold more clout. You also gain more in-depth knowledge about a certain subject compared to 2 bachelor's degrees, which seems a little like a jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none thing.

[purple]

i'm taking up lia-com now in lasalle and i'm not regretting it...although i heard about that masters thing in ua&p before. a lot of people tell me na in lia-com your well-rounded coz ur combining arts and business. well it's really up to you...all i can say is that u won't regret if you take up liacom in lasalle and ur really goin to enjoy it! :)

[lorenzo]

Quite frankly, I believe it would NOT be advisable nor advantageous to take your masteral studies without first gaining at least a 3-4 Year WORK EXPERIENCE.

That is why in De La Salle MBA, an applicant is required to have AT LEAST a 3-year work experience so that the prospective MBA students can better relate to the theories being studied from their personal work experiences.

Regarding De La Salle LIACOM program, it was one of the innovations in college education which La Salle has pioneered in and has been known for. Graduating with 2 degrees - BOTH an AB and a BS Business/Commerce makes the graduate more well rounded and versatile than just an AB graduate.

It is also a known fact that companies prefer a De La Salle LIACOM graduate than just an AB graduate. More often than not, these LIACOM graduates eventually also take their MBAs or MAs after having a 3-Year Work Experience.

So I think taking a Masteral Degree immediately right after college is not advisable to a fresh college graduate with no work experience.

[KuyaDanny]

Agree with lorenzo on the part about getting experience before pursuing the master's degree. Taking time away from school allows one to let his thinking mature. And a mature mind is quite useful in a graduate program (in any field).

I might add, also, that if a master's degree is truly in your plans, you should consider getting it from another institution (not the one where you'll get the bachelor's degree).

Every school has a "mindset" which is formed from a combination of faculty, students, and traditions built up over the years. Every student acquires part of that mindset when he studies at the school. You'd want to try a different school to be exposed to a different mindset. From this broader exposure, you develop an open mind and a broader vision.

[G.ice]

i'm taking marketing mgmt. in dlsu even if i'm taking up a business course i'd definitely go for the liacom program mainly because the lia subject u r taking would compliment the business course you r taking. which would be much better because it would help you to understand more what u r doing.

[BadGiRL]

i'm taking liacom.
mahirap minsan ibalance ang lia and com..lalo na if majoring ka na. kaso, hey! that's the fun part! u get to mingle with 2 different sets of people. (*** and cbe) and u try to mix 2 different worlds.

i'm telling you, iba sa *** and sa cbe. not in a bad way. mas lax ang mga taga ***. and sa cbe parang laging on the go na sila.

contrary to what most people believe, liacom is not about mixing a little bit of lia and a little bit of com and presto, u get liacom. no. u major in both degrees. meaning, u sweat blood double time. what is in the flowchart for the lia-reg is also in the flowchart of the liacom student. same goes with the com part. and, ideally, in the flow chart, u first finish majoring ur lia before u proceed to finish majoring ur com degree. so d talaga halo halo. kasi iisa isahin mo naman e.

masaya sha and besides, bata ka pa. u can always take up ur masters after years of work experience. feel ko d mo rin maappreciate yung masters if u don't know what's it really like outside school e. kasi kaya nga mag mamasters ka para mahasa mo yung natutunan mo na at naexperience mo na.

well..good luck! hope it helps. :)

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[FBF]

m taking uo lia-com ryt now...and i have 2 agree wid badgirl...U RILY HAVE 2 STUDY DOUBLE TYM!it's not just a little of lia and a little of com...but *** i can say is dat, u get 2 be well-rounded since u major in 2 courses...but i wud recommend na rel8d ***...

hmm...my dad also said dat it is not advisable to pursue a masters degree w/o working 1st...so even f u dcide to study in UA&P i suggest you dnt take that up yet...

newayz, gudluk!

[frankie]

LIACOM in De La Salle is the best in the country.

This DE LA SALLE INVENTION is a course which combines a Business degree with an AB degree each with a field of specialization. Aside from LIACOM, De La Salle also offers LIA-ED which is also a two degree course - this time combining a BS Education degree with an AB Degree.

I also agree that it would NOT be advisable to take a masteral course in any field WITHOUT work experience FIRST.

A masteral course can better be appreciated by a person who has worked a few years than a person who hasn't worked YET at all.

[§ínned™]

Frankie, UST started that Lia-com course way back as an addition to its College of Commerce and Business Administration's roster of degrees like entrepreneurship, economics, management and accounting. If I am not mistaken, UST scrapped the Lia-com course in the early-80s (time frame when DLSU's Liberal Arts was split into College of Arts and College of Science, thus offering a Lia-com course) when the UST College of Commerce and Business Administration changed its business courses' concept by adopting curricula with humanities and business combined which is also known as humanistic discipline. Simply put, if you are going to earn a degree in economics you also take courses in literature, languages, philosophy and art history.

Sometimes it really pays to enrich ourselves with the history of Philippine education.

§inned™

[frankie]

Sinned ...

FYI, De La Salle's LIACOM program was already in existence in the 1950s yet - not only in the 1980s when De La Salle U's College of Arts & Sciences was split into the College of Liberal Arts and College of Science.

I know since my uncle who graduated in De La Salle in 1958 took LIACOM also and graduated with two degrees - AB History/Political Science & BS Business Administration.

Same with my older brother who also took LIACOM and graduated in 1967 with two degrees- BS Accounting and AB Economics.

[jugger]

Its better to take De La Salle's LIACOM course in college then take a master's degree only after gaining a 3-4 years work experience.

[tr|n|ty]

I think it's better to take the LIA-COm in DLSU rather than the 5 year BS/masters deal in UAP. I was also faced with that dilemma here in my school. They offered a 5 year BS/MBA program and it looked a bang for the buck kind of deal, i wanted to take it but further advice and consultation made me realize that going out into the real world and actually working and applying what i have learned in undergrad can be an added education to my future MBA. So I opted in getting a double major with a minor to make use of my electives :)

[h2o]

Hello cook. m currently a ua&p student.

Basically, I can give you a background of our courses if your still interested. kasi depende kung anong kukunin mong course. what do you plan to major in ba (what particular business-related course)?

pero isa lang masasabi ko sayo...whatever course your planning to take(if you enroll in ua&p) you can say goodbye to your summer vacations once tumungtong ka na ng 2nd yr. kasi they would require you to take your major courses by then. eh, they would only offer those particular couses during summer. buti pa nga La Salle eh may summer break kahit papano... wahhhhhhhh!!!!!

pero don't worry may 2 weeks break naman before summer classes and another one week break before the 1st semester for the next school year. pero siyempre during that 3 weeks break pabalik-balik ka sa school to do this, do that, get this, get that...blah!blah!blah!

wala lang sharing only. bitter lang ako kasi pasukan ko na tom...sob..sob..sob...

pero siyempre when your woriking already you won't have a break at all so this should not be the reason para ma-discourage ka to enrol in ua&p.(i can give you other reasons to be! hehehe... pero syempre may advantages din)

well just let me know if u still need some information.


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[BadGiRL]

hahaha! :)

[§ínned™]

Umm, frankie, which university is older? That's why I said "way back". By the way, the UST College of Commerce and Business Administration was founded in 1933.

§inned™

[naughty&nice]

if i were u mag-lia com ka na! biased ata ako coz dats my course now...but from *** i hear about the masters in Ua&P di masyado ok *** 1st 2 yrs mo sa college cos puro basic subjects lang tpos 3rd palang ata malalaman kung ano major mo... un lang *** mga narinig ko ha, dnt want to say anything else regarding dat kc bka may ma-offend.

with regards to lia-com... make sure lang u have a nice combination of lia and com course para mas masaya ang aral... pag connected mare-relate mo *** mga subjects mo in both degrees...

pero nakakaloka **** siya ha!!! :confused:
this year i started majoring na for my lia course and at the same time im trying to finish all my accounting subjects on time... tuliro na kami pag end of the term na!!! :confused:

pero fulfilling pag sinasabi ng mga prof na we will benefit a lot from the choice we made in pursuing a double-degree course in la salle :D

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[frankie]

Originally posted by §inned™:
Umm, frankie, which university is older? That's why I said "way back". By the way, the UST College of Commerce and Business Administration was founded in 1933.

§inned™


Although UST founded in 1611 is 300 years older than DLSU-Manila which was founded by the De La Salle Christian Brothers in 1911,
DLSU-Manila's College of Commerce/Business is OLDER than UST's College of Commerce/Business which was founded in 1933.

DLSU-Manila's College of Commerce/Business was founded in 1921.

[§ínned™]

Nope, the College where your Lia-com is, that is College of Liberal Arts, was founded in 1918, but Lia-com in DLSU wasn't offered after like 4 decades after your Liberal Arts was phased out in the early 30s. The DLSU Liberal Arts, however, was reopened in the early 50s and started offering Lia-com as one of the degrees (take note about what you said about your father who graduated in 1958 and your older bro who graduated in 1967. Geez you must be old, te hehehe!, just kidding). Your College of Business and Economics which was founded in 1921 (which isn't called College of Commerce/Business, I believe), on the other hand, did not offer the Lia-com when it started since your Liberal Arts was phased out. The UST College of Commerce, however, started offering its Lia-com degree a year after it was founded.

But if you insist, I'll just digress.

§inned™

[PiAh]

well, as for me, im still in favor of lia-com, even though in a few more years, ill be takin up my masters already... just be sure dat u make ur own choice n dont let anyone decide for u.

[zonrox1]

Yeah, LIACOM is one of the many Educational Innovations De La Salle has made over the years.

If you want to take up AB courses, consider taking LIACOM in De La Salle since aside from just an AB degree you'll also be graduating also with a B.S. Commerce degree each with field of specializations.

Your Undergrad College Education will thus be more rounded. Later after a couple of years, you can then take your MBA or MA.

[X-pac]

ey MARK!
f i wer u, dont go 2 UA&P.
DLSU is acknowledged as one of the better universities in the country. while UA&P, recognized as the most expensive one.
you'll learn nothing in UA&P. trust me. well, except maybe spiritual direction (which i should say s the best that they can offer. no doubt. )
did u know that in UA&P, if u dont meet this certain minimum grade, they won't let u take masters in ur 5th year. what they'll do s that they will just make u graduate the course humanities. ikaw, kung gusto mo mag teacher, perfect yung course na yon. hehe.
wag ka pauto k bernie
the decision is all yours
(*i have nothing against UA&P, my brother is even studying there.)