Help: adoption

[yellowsuzi]

I want to adopt a baby except i'm single.
dswd (govt adoption agency) told me i am qualified but...nasa "low priority"list. hirap maghintay (and to think ang daming kids na lumalaki sa ampunan. i've been to 2 adoption houses, kawawa talaga).

i am not baog. in fact, ive been thinking "magpa-anak" na lang kaya ako hahaha. kaya lang, mas gusto ko mag-adopt.

kaya lang this govt thinks that because im single....di ko kaya maging parent????

[riAbaby]

why not have your own kid? mas masarap ang pakiramdam kung talagang nabuo siya at nanggaling sayo.

siguro mas priority ng government yung mga childless couples since sila eh mag-asawa na at hindi magkaanak (possible na may diperensya *** isa sa kanila), while ikaw eh single pa and siguro naman capable na magka-baby.

siguro maghanap ka na lang ng kakilala mo na willing ipa-ampon yung baby niya.

[redman]

just curious, why do you want to have a child?

[mytitagirl]

try being a temporary foster parent first. i have read a brochure about "cribs" it is located in q.c. (i am not really sure about the address, pero dun sila sa matarik na road paliko papunta sa riverbanks, marikina.) they need foster parents where the child stays temporarily until the adoptive parents or relatives have legal custody of the child.

then you can also volunteer at orphanages?

[periwinkle sky]

It's also difficult being a foster parent because of the emotional risk, You've somehow emotionally "invested" on the kid, only for them to take her/him away from you; unless of course they'd allow you to adopt the child. If you can handle the emotional roller coaster, why not, di ba?

I kinda understand how you feel. You're single (not in a relationship, probably not in love?), but you have this motherly instinct in you. I'm married but when I was single I had that feeling too.

Maybe they think you're not financially capable of raising the child. Have they asked for your ITRs? Here in America, even gay and lesbian couples get to adopt. But then again, this is America.

[yellowsuzi]

Yes, they did. They asked for my ITR, adresses etc. I have a nice job and i can support a child talaga. at 35, ive already bought my own house, i have a car, i have a savings-- a have a lot in batanggas, another lot in bulacan. all that, na-invest ko. why can't i nvest sa future ng isang bata?

why adopt? why not? there's so many kids na walang pamilya. i saw so many ampunan na, it will really break your heart. plus, i think i have a good, decent, comfortable life-- i wanted to share that.

i cannot forget this ep, it happend many many years ago-- there's a 4 or 5 yrs old child na nakita namin sa kamuning road na nagpapasagasa sa mga sasakyan. he's medyo pilay. anyway, shocked ako--- a 4 or 5 yrs old child na gustong magpakamatay???

we saved him, dinala namin sa house nila-- he lives in fairview-- sa squatters area sa manggahan. we found out, wala nang magulang-- he lives with his tiyahin na maraming anak. napapabayaan this kid, ni hindi kumakain.
wala ako nagawa except that. i felt helpless.
student pa lang ako nun e. pero di ko makalimutan lalo na kapag napapadaan ako sa area nila. wala na yung squatters area na yun doon ngayon-- pero palagi ko iniisip kung ano na nangyari sa kid na yun? buhay pa kaya siya? if he is, teen-ager na siguro yun ngayon.... and i doubt kung maganda ang buhay niya.

why adopt? i guess alam mo na.

[Ernestina]

^^^

[redman]

Originally posted by yellowsuzi
why adopt? i guess alam mo na.

actually i still dont because im confused. after you wrote "ive been thinking "magpa-anak" na lang kaya ako," you gave us your ms. universe answer. even if you meant that as a joke, it sounds consistent as to why many single women want to adopt children.

hindi naman ako judge ng ms universe, do tell us the REAL reason why you want to adopt.

[grumpybear]

even if you're low on the priority list, sa sobrang dami ng orphans sa Pilipinas siguro naman makakakuha ka...

[yellowsuzi]

Originally posted by redman
actually i still dont because im confused. after you wrote "ive been thinking "magpa-anak" na lang kaya ako," you gave us your ms. universe answer. even if you meant that as a joke, it sounds consistent as to why many single women want to adopt children.

hindi naman ako judge ng ms universe, do tell us the REAL reason why you want to adopt.

==========

ehhh??????
ayaw mong tanggapin ang reason ko...mukhang mas alam mo e.
people are good you know. i have good intentions.

now, i'm not sure what you're thinking pero parang i can sense na di maganda (im not sure though pero reading your msg--- parang ganun na nga ang dating)

you see, i'm happy being single...i have had relationships but i'm not the marrying kind. i don't need a husband. and i am sure of that. there are people like me you know. (at 35, believe me, i know what i want and dont want).

now for the ms universe answer ---- (i am offended btw). everything i wrote--- totoo lahat yan. that's my reason e. in fact, truth is, kung sa work load ko now....having a kid (either adopted or galing mismo sa akin) malaking bother. but still i want to adopt pa rin... why? again: coz i have a good life! i want to share it. i feel guilty that i have a good life. totoo yan.

kaya lang... i dont think tatanggapin mo ang "mala-ms universe" na sagot ko no? (why? di mo matanggap kasi di "selfish" ang reason ko? Is that it? gusto mong sabihin ko na kaya ko gusto mag-adopt kasi gusto ko me mag-aalaga sa akin pagtanda ko? crap).

and confused ka ha? God. Tao ka ba?
me nangyari na ba sa buhay mo, or me nawitness ka ba sa buhay mo or people around you that changed your life? kung wala.... I DONT THINK MAIINTINDIHAN MO NGA AKO.

[yellowsuzi]

Originally posted by grumpybear
even if you're low on the priority list, sa sobrang dami ng orphans sa Pilipinas siguro naman makakakuha ka... ]


oh grumpybear--- low priority list ako sa 0 mos old babies up to 2 yrs old. pero older children, pwede raw ako-- mas mabilis daw.

[redman]

i have no doubt that your intentions are good. kaya lang, what i was curious to know is the REAL reason why you want to adopt. kasi nga, yung mala ms. universe mong answer was the total opposite of "magpaanak na lang kaya ako."

which one is it?

[SuKiYaKi]

Originally posted by yellowsuzi:

you see, i'm happy being single...i have had relationships but i'm not the marrying kind. i don't need a husband. and i am sure of that. there are people like me you know. (at 35, believe me, i know what i want and dont want).

now for the ms universe answer ---- (i am offended btw). everything i wrote--- totoo lahat yan. that's my reason e. in fact, truth is, kung sa work load ko now....having a kid (either adopted or galing mismo sa akin) malaking bother. but still i want to adopt pa rin... why? again: coz i have a good life! i want to share it. i feel guilty that i have a good life. totoo yan.
why not try adopting a pet first? :shrug: either a dog *puppy* or cat :turncat:. these are living creatures that also need love and nurturing. pets are great child-substitutes with whom you can also share your "good life" with.

(please note: the bolded statement and scrutinize the underlined phrase)

you've mentioned that children "either adopted or from you" can interfere with work. why bother? because, you naturally have a benevolent nature and wish to "spread the wealth" so to speak?! by adopting a pet first you can test your own motives. These animals need just as much attention and devotion doted upon them as children. Then once you have and feel [you can handle parental tasks] and still want a child(ren) in your life...by all means, i'm sure the adoption agency will see your tremendous good nature and desire and will hopefully grace you with one. :beam:

and confused ka ha? God. Tao ka ba?
me nangyari na ba sa buhay mo, or me nawitness ka ba sa buhay mo or people around you that changed your life? kung wala.... I DONT THINK MAIINTINDIHAN MO NGA AKO.
ah! don't mind ole redman he's notorious for conjuring silly comments (sometimes commendable most of the time contemptible)

[redman]

:lol: but i havent said anything yet!

im just curious. "magpaanak na lang" and the ms. universe-like answer contradict eachother.

[yellowsuzi]

sukiyaki, i already have a pet. pet is diff from human being. my motive? god. i don't want to comment na. but im asking you-- what is your motive nang sinabi mo i-try ko muna ang mag-adopt ng peta kesa tao? because, for example, if your in my shoe---- and you really wanted a child and i told you----- wag na, baka di mo kaya, aso na lang kunin mo. hindi ba you will feel, parang minamaliit kita? ang kakayanan mo? im just asking. pls don't get offended.

yes, i said-- having a child actually is a bother (makakaabala sa work ko). yes, true. i said that. that's my fear e. im verbalizing it lang. and im sure even "real working mom's" at one point felt that (and feels guilty abt it).

redman, the "magpaanak" na lang was meant to be a joke di ba? if you will read uli my msg--- halata na joke yun. it's a joke. joke. unless, interested ka na anakan ako??? hahahahahah now, that's a joke too. unless, isipin mo na naman na serious? god, where's your humor man?

peace, people.
this is very real too me. im in aguish! don't make me feel naman that i don't deserve to adopt a child. parang your msg was meant to put me on a defensive. that my motive's bad. that is soooo unfair. actually, im just venting here. i mean, i felt that the long wait sa govt agency is getting on my nerves (na-experience nyo na ba ang red tape?). im really getting frsutrated (i wanted to get my child and move on). i appreaciate "mga kontras" but i will really appreciate it more if you write encouraging msgs... because that's the reason why i put up this thread... to get those....kasi my family and my friends were all kontrabida's too (kesyo why adopt, di ko naman kadugo? god). can you really imagine what i'm going thru?
or people are getting callous na talaga?

[Ladydredd]

yellowsuzi,

i sent you a PM about your problem...hope you received it.

tnx!

[yellowsuzi]

oh btw, sukiyaki, i apologize for that statment. maybe your a pet lover too like me. sorry for snapping at you--- anyway i re-read your msg and thot you meant well naman. im just frustrated lang i guess. (been caring for a pet since i was a kid. been hurt many times too when they died).

redman, no apology for you. but i demand an apology from you.
:)

[redman]

Originally posted by yellowsuzi
redman, no apology for you. but i demand an apology from you.
:)

youre not getting one and when were done, youre the one whos going to be sorry.

Originally posted by yellowsuzi
redman, the "magpaanak" na lang was meant to be a joke di ba? if you will read uli my msg--- halata na joke yun. it's a joke. joke. unless, interested ka na anakan ako??? hahahahahah now, that's a joke too. unless, isipin mo na naman na serious? god, where's your humor man?

alright then. so you were "joking around" and you dont mean it. so is your only reason to want to adopt is because you feel sorry for those poor little ones?

check out bolded word before you answer.

peace, people.
this is very real too me. im in aguish! don't make me feel naman that i don't deserve to adopt a child. parang your msg was meant to put me on a defensive. that my motive's bad. that is soooo unfair. actually, im just venting here. i mean, i felt that the long wait sa govt agency is getting on my nerves (na-experience nyo na ba ang red tape?). im really getting frsutrated (i wanted to get my child and move on). i appreaciate "mga kontras" but i will really appreciate it more if you write encouraging msgs... because that's the reason why i put up this thread... to get those....kasi my family and my friends were all kontrabida's too (kesyo why adopt, di ko naman kadugo? god). can you really imagine what i'm going thru?
or people are getting callous na talaga?

its not that you dont deserve to adopt a child. its because you are in no position to adopt a child.

think about it. youre a single chick in her mid 30s whos so into her career. the problem with you is that youre willing to gamble raising a kid outside of a structured family setting. being able to feed a child doesnt mean youre going to be a good parent. hindi porke mababawasan ang mga batang kumakalam ang sikmura dahil aampunin mo ay magaling ka nang magulang.

its irresponsible and selfish to want to adopt a child just because women feel that they have a need to care for one.

[Ladydredd]

redman,

why pick on yellowsuzi? so what if she wants to adopt a kid? she has her reasons why(and i believe it's valid), and i dont think its necessary for her to explain those to us, or to anyone, for that matter. if you are trying to dissuade her to adopt cuz you believe she's not in the position to do that, i think you are the one who's being selfish. in the first place, who are you to to say who can adopt and who cannot? ano bang qualifications mo to make adoption valid? and ano bang qualifications mo in being a good parent? are you a parent yourself? if you are, are you sure you are a good one?

hindi kita inaaway ha. ang sa akin lang, kung wala kang masabi na maganda, eh wag ka na lang magsalita. kung gusto ni yellowsuzi mag-ampon for reasons na sha lang ang nakakaalam, eh wala na tayo dun. kanya-kanyang paniniwala lang yan eh. if it bothers you so much, eh di wag ka na lang magreply. irespeto mo na lang yung gusto nya. nakakasakit ka kse ng damdamin nung tao sa sinasabi mo eh. hinuhusgahan mo kagad yung tao na wala sha sa posisyon mag-ampon eh hindi mo naman alam yung buong picture at lalong hindi mo naman sha kilala.

ewan ko ha, pero siguro kaya ka bitter about this adoption issue, kse either you are adopted yourself, or meron kang hindi magandang experience sa pag-aampon.

disclaimer lang, hindi ko kilala si yellowsuzi. kaya sana walang magsabi jan na pinagtatanggol ko yung tao kse kakilala o kaibigan ko sha. ang sa akin lang, walang basagan, kung di mo gusto yung arguments sa discussion, eh di wag ka na lang sumali, at lalong wag kang mang-huhusga...

[redman]

this is a public forum, what anyone says is fair game. so you cant say that i shouldnt say anything if i dont agree with yellowsuzi.

im not picking on her. ive had the same position on adoption eversince. and youre right, she doesnt have to tell us why she wants to adopt a child. but theres a right way and a wrong way at doing something. and before i hear the high horse and the self-righteous argument thats frankly gotten old over the years, alam naman natin merong mali at tama ang lahat ng bagay.

lets set aside FEELINGS. lets tackle this with how it is. tama ba na magampon ang isang single person in her mid 30s who admitted that she doesnt have the time? tama ba na magampon ang isang woman in her mid 30s ng bata just because kaya nya ito pakainin? yun ba yon? yun na ba ang basis? just because someone can feed the poor little thing, never mind that she has admitted that shes busy, shes all of a sudden an able parent?

thats the absolute bottomline. the need to be a mother. its irresponsible and selfish to adopt just because of that. no amount of, "ulila na sya, kawawa naman" can justify that.

[Ladydredd]

o sige, if you think that yellowsuzi's reasons are invalid, sabihin mo nga sa min kung ano DAPAT ang rason para mag-adopt ang isang single person like her?

if you argue that she doesnt have the time as she posted earlier, how sure are you that this will be the case when she gets the child? sa pagkakaintindi ko, busy sha ngayon sa career nya, and lahat halos ng time nya is dun napupunta. pero, it doesnt follow na wala na shang time para sa ibang bagay, or para sa adoptive kid nya. pwede naman nyang hatiin ang oras nya pag anjan na yung bata eh, and im sure she can make sacrifices as a mother would do if put in that position.

if you argue na kaya sha nag-aampon dahil kaya naman nya magpakain ng isa pa, at mali yung rason na yun, ano ba ang tama? tingin ko, ang ibig sabihin nya dito, capable sha na bumuhay ng bata. BUMUHAY ha, at hindi magpakain lang. samantalang maraming magulang ang anak ng anak pero ni pakainin ang anak ng tama, hindi magawa. ***** sasabihin mo, kung yun ang ibig sabihin nya, mali yung analogy or delivery ng rason nya. eh anong magagawa mo kung sa ganon nya kayang i-interpret yung ibig nyang sabihin?

at sa tingin ko, ang kitid naman ng pag-iisip mo when you implied that a kid should live in a structured family na may tatay, nanay, kapatid, etc. 2004 na po, at ang definition ng pamilya ay nag-evolve na. family, i believe, shouldnt strictly revolve around the common notion of having a father and a mother. isa pa, i dont think adopting dont deprive anything from a kid, especially the so-called benefits of a structured family setting. as long as the single person can give the love, attention and care that a father and mother can give to a kid, anong problema?

look at it this way, if yellowsuzi is a single parent, would you tell her she's being selfish by choosing to remain single and keeping the child? mali ba na piliin nyang maging single parent kse she's depriving the kid the benefits of a structured family setting? what im driving at is, i believe she can still be a parent, and a good one too, even if she's single. being married doesnt translate to being a good parent, and being an efective parent doesnt require one to be married first.

keep an open mind, pare. pero ***** nga, hindi mo naiintindihan where yellowsuzi is coming from cuz you're not female and you dont have the nurturing instinct in you.

nga pala, being in an open forum dont mean you can bash and judge other people simply because their reasons or form of reasoning dont agree with yours. we may disagree, yes, but propriety and respect should still be present. we're here to exchange views on things, not to pass judgement on others.

peace ulit...

[yellowsuzi]

oh god.

ladydredd, thanks.

redman, sheesh, mabuti na lang hindi kita naging ama. what kind of reasoning ba meron ka? yan ba ang itinuturo mo sa mga anak mo? masyadong nakakakahon ang utak mo. and yes, ang macho ng thinking mo.

do you want me to feel sorry for myself because im single? and yet gusto mag-adopt? sorry dude---- pero i dont feel sorry for myself.

kung yung 18 yrs old na young mother (and married) nga-- kaya maging mom, ako pa? anong diprensya? para sa iyo-- nothing's wrong with her kasi married siya? (kahit na bata pa siya in the first place to be a mom).. and yes, yung mga mahihirap na couple na walang ginawa kungdi mag-anak ng napakarami at hindi mapag-aral at mabigyan ng disenteng buhay ang mga anak nila-----ok lang yun? kasi mag-asawa sila??? kasi mabibigyan nila ng "normal" family life ang mga anak nila???

and ako, kahit na i can give a good decent life sa isang bata,
wala akong karapatan kasi im single????????

ano ba ang ipinagsisintir mo? na ipinagmamalaki ko na kaya kong mabigyan ng good decent life ang isang bata? what's wrong with that??? hindi ba, lahat ng magulang dapat ganun ang ibigay sa mga anak nila? (unless, di mo kayang ibigay yun sa mga anak mo kaya ka inis sa reasoning ko?).

or-- you want me to be mushy para masatisfy ka? you want me to promise that i;ll love and care for that kid? hindi ba given naman yun?

tinitira mo ako, by saying, nag confess ako na busy ako sa work ko-- kaya paano ko mapapalaki ng maganda ang bata? hindi ba ang daming single parent diyan? do you mean to say, di nila rin mapapalaki ng maganda ang mga anak nila?

ayayayayay. i feel sorry for you, dude. nagbago na ang panahon pero naiwanan ka.

[SuKiYaKi]

Originally posted by yellowsuzi:

oh btw, sukiyaki, i apologize for that statment. maybe your a pet lover too like me. sorry for snapping at you--- anyway i re-read your msg and thot you meant well naman. im just frustrated lang i guess. (been caring for a pet since i was a kid. been hurt many times too when they died).
apology accepted. :|

when I first read your previous statement I was flabbergasted at how much you misread my post. I had no intention of offending you or anyone. my post was merely a simple suggestion which can be regarded or disregarded. However, I understand that your sentiment must be due to pure frustration on your current predicament.

It takes a strong woman to work against the system (in this case the adoption agency and who they may see fit as a parent(s)). I certainly hope they see your strong will, determination, and purely benevolent nature to grant you a child(ren). These are admirable qualities a mother can bestow upon her child.

Ladydredd has brought up a certainly logical arguement which i'll quote below:
i dont think adopting dont deprive anything from a kid, especially the so-called benefits of a structured family setting. as long as the single person can give the love, attention and care that a father and mother can give to a kid
I must agree, we have long evolved from the 50's ideal nuclear family (of 2 parents and 2-3 children). Nowadays, it's not only the men working and "bringing home the bacon." Mothers have climbed the working ladder and sometimes earn more than her male counterpart. In those cases, it's normal for the Dad to do what was once "women's domestic chores." My point being, there should be gradual acceptance of the modern times from what was once considered "traditional."

I sincerely wish you the best on your endeavors.

*sigh*

[redman]

Originally posted by Ladydredd
o sige, if you think that yellowsuzi's reasons are invalid, sabihin mo nga sa min kung ano DAPAT ang rason para mag-adopt ang isang single person like her?


wala. theres no reason. a single person has no business adopting a child.

at sa tingin ko, ang kitid naman ng pag-iisip mo when you implied that a kid should live in a structured family na may tatay, nanay, kapatid, etc. 2004 na po, at ang definition ng pamilya ay nag-evolve na. family, i believe, shouldnt strictly revolve around the common notion of having a father and a mother. isa pa, i dont think adopting dont deprive anything from a kid, especially the so-called benefits of a structured family setting. as long as the single person can give the love, attention and care that a father and mother can give to a kid, anong problema?

look at it this way, if yellowsuzi is a single parent, would you tell her she's being selfish by choosing to remain single and keeping the child? mali ba na piliin nyang maging single parent kse she's depriving the kid the benefits of a structured family setting? what im driving at is, i believe she can still be a parent, and a good one too, even if she's single. being married doesnt translate to being a good parent, and being an efective parent doesnt require one to be married first.

keep an open mind, pare. pero ***** nga, hindi mo naiintindihan where yellowsuzi is coming from cuz you're not female and you dont have the nurturing instinct in you.


there you go. i think thats where it all boils down to. you can keep yapping, say anything and everything to justify adopting a child, but again, the absolute bottomline is that need to nurture, the need to fill the void is the reason thats being addressed.

i have an interesting statistic. again, you people are arguing with FEELINGS. im arguing with facts and numbers.

from malaya (http://www.malaya.com.ph/jul25/news5.htm)

it talks about juvenile delinquency. i need you to focus on the part where it says: 78 percent (of juvenile delinquents) live with a single parent while 71 percent are out of school youth. "We are beginning to see the break-up of the Filipino family. Barely two-thirds of 12 to 21-year-olds live with both father and mother," he said.

Salvosa said he felt sad that parents are "giving what they (children) want but not what they need like love, care and limitations. Most parents today are busy trying to survive."


nga pala, being in an open forum dont mean you can bash and judge other people simply because their reasons or form of reasoning dont agree with yours. we may disagree, yes, but propriety and respect should still be present. we're here to exchange views on things, not to pass judgement on others.

peace ulit...

im not bashing. im not judging. im trying to prove a point. the statistics are there. read it and absorb it.

[mytitagirl]

i know several single female with adopted children...they look happy. i believe that every situation depends on the persons involved. love and care cannot be compared to statistics...another's happiness cannot be measured by the same levels as anybody else's. follow your instinct. act on your words, so if you really want to adopt, do it.

[redman]

sure theyre happy. why, their need to be a parent is being fed, of theyre happy! but it doesnt take away the fact that 78% of juvenile delinquents come from single parent households. instincts can be wrong, but numbers dont lie.

you people argue with nothing but feelings. its no surprise that the numbers i cited were ignored. who wants to know the truth when it feels a lot better to dream. it shouldnt be about how you feel about it but whether if its right or wrong.

[Ladydredd]

yeah, statistics dont lie, but its really about how you interpret those statistics. stats are meant to be a guide, pero hindi determining factor in making decisions, especially life-changing decisions. masyado kang bilib sa statistics mo, i wont wonder anymore kung lahat ng desisyon na ginagawa mo sa buhay mo, binabase mo sa statistics.

there's more to life than statistics, dude! ang lungkot ***** ng buhay mo...

get a life, pare! but if you choose to be live in a box and get yourself drowned with your statistics, it's up to you. irerespeto pa rin kita, desisyon at buhay mo yan eh.

..pero dont make judgmental statements such as single people dont have any business adopting kids.

kakalungkot lang to know na after all these years of struggling for equal rights among single and married people, men and women, may mga tao pa rin who choose to remain archived in a closed way of thinking and viewing things..and worse, you encounter some of these people everyday, and some are the ones who make the rules.

anyway, live and let live...

[redman]

Originally posted by Ladydredd
yeah, statistics dont lie, but its really about how you interpret those statistics. stats are meant to be a guide, pero hindi determining factor in making decisions, especially life-changing decisions. masyado kang bilib sa statistics mo, i wont wonder anymore kung lahat ng desisyon na ginagawa mo sa buhay mo, binabase mo sa statistics.

there's more to life than statistics, dude! ang lungkot ***** ng buhay mo...

get a life, pare! but if you choose to be live in a box and get yourself drowned with your statistics, it's up to you. irerespeto pa rin kita, desisyon at buhay mo yan eh.

..pero dont make judgmental statements such as single people dont have any business adopting kids.


there goes feelings again. cant you argue using anything else than feelings? the problem with you "progressive thinkers" is when i state facts and numbers, you become emotional, you then start assuming things about me and frankly i find it both funny and ridiculous. you rebut factual argument with "may anak ka ba?" this whole discussion is between common sense and non-sense. the argument here is simple. theres a right way and a wrong way of doing things. instead of asking "how do i feel about?" ask "is it right or wrong?" instead.

kakalungkot lang to know na after all these years of struggling for equal rights among single and married people, men and women, may mga tao pa rin who choose to remain archived in a closed way of thinking and viewing things..and worse, you encounter some of these people everyday, and some are the ones who make the rules.

anyway, live and let live...

equal rights has nothing to do with this. there are certain things only married people can provide a child. i know you know im right. if a single person starts feeling the need to nurture, magtanim ka ng halaman. wala akong alam na halaman na pumatay or nagnakaw. pagnagkamali ka sa pagaalaga sa halaman, its not gonna end up as a menace to society. imagine that, 78%, thats almost 8 out of 10 juvenile delinquents pinalaki ng single parent.

for all your emotional outbursts and rhetoric based on FEELINGS, do you think you can argue with the facts and numbers i provided? can you rebut with numbers, instead of feelings?

[yellowsuzi]

sukiyaki, thanks :)

redman, sinong naglabas niyang statistic? catholic sponsored ba? im sure. lol.

now, 78% kamo ng juvenile delinquent galing sa single parent household. of course, study ito, among the nalikom na juvenile respondent di ba? ilan sila? 100? i doubt if it's more than that (usually, statistical data's kinukuha sa isang grupo ng individual. propbably, nagpunta ang statistic group na ito sa mga counselling centers like the one in ateneo etc). and i have no doubt na may pag-aaral na ginawa tulad nito...

pero....

ilan naman kayang porsyento ng nanggaling sa single parent household ang lumaking matino? ang lumaking sucessful sa buhay? (oh yes, marami sa kanila, alfredo lim is an example, senator. juan ponce enrile, etc) oh im sure madami din.

and yes, ilan kayang porsyento rin ng juvenile delinquent naman ang naggaling sa isang may dad and mom na pamilya? im sure marami rin.

so it's not really a question kung may pamilyang buo o wala....
di va???

:)

[gazarii]

Hello! I do not wish to comment on the other posts but anyway I also would like to know how to adopt, not for myself but for our helper.

Sorry yellowsuzi but I think it is also appropriate to post my query here because our goals are similar and yet different.

Our helper had a son in her previous live-in partner. She is now married with a different man. The guy wishes to adopt the boy but the problem is, they do not know how. If it will involve money or lawyers, they do not have enough of it. You see, the mother is pregnant while the boy has a heart disease an is due for operation.

If you know pro bono lawyers na rin it would be a big help. Thank you!

[yellowsuzi]

it's ok. sa up may pro bono lawyers. flag ata at may isa pang group na hindi ko matandaan pero you can call Uniev of the Phils and ask.

o kaya go to the lawyers thread dito rin sa PEX. pwede ka magtanong sa kanila what to do saka pwede ka humingi ng info.

[gazarii]

ah talaga? I've been here for 1 year na ata or more pero hindi ko alam yun. May I know what thread? Uy thanks for the info.

[yellowsuzi]

UNder BUsiness and Creers ---THE WORKING FILIPINO ang name ng thread ay LEGAL THREAD V : ask the legal beagles.

sa main page-- scroll down-- makikita mo yung the working filipino.

[yellowsuzi]

creers : careers hehe

[CoolCucumber]

Originally posted by redman

equal rights has nothing to do with this. there are certain things only married people can provide a child. i know you know im right. if a single person starts feeling the need to nurture, magtanim ka ng halaman. wala akong alam na halaman na pumatay or nagnakaw. pagnagkamali ka sa pagaalaga sa halaman, its not gonna end up as a menace to society. imagine that, 78%, thats almost 8 out of 10 juvenile delinquents pinalaki ng single parent.


how do you define single parent? how does the article define single parent?

single as in literally isa lang or single as in a parent who used to have a spouse?

if it's the latter definition then this may be attributed to the child's experience of losing a parent through divorce or separation.

and why did you say that a single parent has no right to be a parent? 3 of my relatives are single and have adopted kids and they are normal. happy and normal. not like the delinquents the article stated.

[gazarii]

thanks! yellowsuzi