The Real DREAM FINAL - PCU vs. UPHR

[Terry Sharon]

eto ang real dream finals kasi naman masyado nyo silang minamaliit eh yan tuloy sila ang nasa final nalason kasi kayo ng kakain ng tuna at sardinas eh may red tide.

[katzet]

Well they say it's a marketing nightmare daw . . . baduy at pang barrangay lang . . .what else can they taunt about Perpetual and PCU . . .

i really don't care who's gonna win . . .basta din lang na defeat ang objectives NCAA . . .

[r_69_e]

ok...

[r_69_e]

still hats off PCU! especially Sanz. great player. I am now rooting for PCU!

PCU! PCU! PCU!

p.s:

can you suggest sa pep ng pcu na dugtungan yung bago o pagkatapos ng "PCU!" chant.

[cards]

i wouldnt call it a dream finals cause many really wanted a letran-san beda finals. but thats how it goes here in NC.

Neither PCU nor Perpetual has won an NCAA title before, and this is already a history in the making for the league because there will surely be a first this 80th season. My advance congratulations to the team who'll win. Like they say, the first time is always the most memorable and sweetest.

May the best team win! :up:

[JayVeeCee]

Both teams will be going for their first ever NCAA Basketball Title.

Parehong "virgin" pa. :D

Congratulations to both PCU and UPHR.

[katzet]

pero come to think of it . .. natalo ang pcu sa letran in both counts sa araneta . . pati na rin perpetual . . .

pang rizal lang talaga siguro sila :)

pero sa totoo lang ang laki talaga improvement ng mga Dolphins . . yung coach candidate din yata sa guiness world record for the the number of wins sa mga teams na nahawakan nya . ..

[carl13]

I really wanted the letran-san beda game in the finals, but unfortunately, by any chance it didn't push through. I was even cheering with my friend, a bedan, in their game against uphds. Anyway, PCU did great! I think they really deserve to win based on the perfromance they showed against the Knights.
Anyway I am still hoping for a letran-beda game, and yes, it would give more publicity and money for the NCAA if it were the game compared to PCUand uphds that are neophytes in the championship arena.
Gudluck to both of them!
Animo Blue
Animo Red
Arriba Letran!

[wynne]

anong pambarangay?...tsktsk napakababa naman ng tingin nila sa dalawang school na to...give them credit,they deserve both in the finals..bakit ba ganun ang tingin nila?

the ncaa played a better final four other than the uaap...di sila concern about marketing,they shuold build and support these two schools..napakaganda ang nilaro nila...i mean the ncaa plays the real though and unpredictable senior basketball..at di pa commercialized..talagang amateur...

now i know how good ato tolentino as a coach...kala ko pam-university of manila lang lang sya...he proved somethin...
san beda will be a better team next year...

[red_blood]

well said... i am happy the PCU won! at long last... they have the chance to get the crown for 8 years... and same goes with UPHDS after 20 years...

regarding Beda.. It's ok... Beda is a great team and will be always great...

GO DOLPHINS FIGHT!
ANIMO BEDA!

[greenberet]

suddenly, a championship match that nobody wants . . . except of course those people who has links with those schools . . . ho-hum !!!


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[redboy]

The reality is--- NCAA is being pitted against UAAP. There is a comparison being made between the two leagues and NCAA is losing the race.

A Lions and Knights Finals would boost the rating and popularity of the NCAA. It's the competing schools' spirit that molds a Finals into a classic one. The more drama and intensity injected into a game, the more audience it would atract. Has anyone here noticed why the games of the NCAA is aired during weekdays and the UAAP on weekends? ABS-CBN, as a profit-oriented company, would put its finger on the golden jar rather than the tar. If NCAA would not attract the needed number of viewers, ABS-CBN might not even broadcast its games in the future. We might end up in Channel 4.

I never said that the students of PCU and UPHS have no school spirit to brag. But compared to that of SBC and Letran, they are a distant second.

The two teams deserve to be in the Finals, but it's not good for the league as a whole. It's a nasty balancing act between an honest to goodness competition and the greedy world of capitalism.

[jhazie]

Originally posted by redboy
The reality is--- NCAA is being pitted against UAAP. There is a comparison being made between the two leagues and NCAA is losing the race.

A Lions and Knights Finals would boost the rating and popularity of the NCAA. It's the competing schools' spirit that molds a Finals into a classic one. The more drama and intensity injected into a game, the more audience it would atract. Has anyone here noticed why the games of the NCAA is aired during weekdays and the UAAP on weekends? ABS-CBN, as a profit-oriented company, would put its finger on the golden jar rather than the tar. If NCAA would not attract the needed number of viewers, ABS-CBN might not even broadcast its games in the future. We might end up in Channel 4.

I never said that the students of PCU and UPHS have no school spirit to brag. But compared to that of SBC and Letran, they are a distant second.

The two teams deserve to be in the Finals, but it's not good for the league as a whole. It's a nasty balancing act between an honest to goodness competition and the greedy world of capitalism.

Very well said!

It's all about reviving NCAA's lost popularity... but that's how it goes so we just have to wait 'til rivals meet in the finals next season. anyway, congratulations to both teams who made it to the finals...

[yellowRanger]

it could have been better if its a Letran vs San Beda finals...alumni palang kita na kayo dyan sa ncaa..

[AussieOy]

The NCAA's popularity got a notch higher when San Beda entered the final four, but now that we're out... well who would want to watch the league now? It's really better for us to leave.

[eddieGIL]

my god ang JOLOGS ng FINALS yuckkkkkkkkk

[Terry Sharon]

Originally posted by AussieOy
The NCAA's popularity got a notch higher when San Beda entered the final four, but now that we're out... well who would want to watch the league now? It's really better for us to leave.

sige layas na noon pa andito pa rin *** sa ncaa

fight NU fight NU.

DOGS TAME LIONS

[katzet]

Originally posted by greenberet
suddenly, a championship match that nobody wants . . . except of course those people who has links with those schools . . . ho-hum !!!


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think of it as Lakers VS. Detroit . . .nobody wants Detroit to win but they did . . .

Discrimination is being frowned in PMAP and in the academe like Harvard. Mga unlearned lang ang gumagawa nun.

[AussieOy]

Well at least ang NU Bulldogs may "breeding" kaysa sa inyo. hehehe Pun intended.

Originally posted by Terry Sharon
sige layas na noon pa andito pa rin *** sa ncaa

fight NU fight NU.

DOGS TAME LIONS

[the Mind]

Pray na lang tayo that it will be for the good of the NCAA. Baka mag UAAP na yung Beda. Mapua will have a leave of absence. Letran might follow Beda. Nightmare. It will not get sponsors. Hmm. rejoice while the iron is hot folks. It will no be long

[redboy]

Originally posted by Terry Sharon
sige layas na noon pa andito pa rin *** sa ncaa

fight NU fight NU.

DOGS TAME LIONS

The NCAA is making the wrong decision in admiting any school it fancies. It sacrifices the quality and the tradition it was able to build for almost a decade. Along with it are the kind of students that pollute the games. Evidence?--please refer to the above post.

In the 80's, the UAAP was only second to NCAA in terms of following and popularity. I remembered my Atenean cousins blaming their school for leaving the NCAA because their Finals match-up against UE was not even given media exposure in the newspapers. They are still craving for the Ateneo and San Beda rivalry because they lost the last time these schools bumped into each other. But now, UAAP has become the premier collegiate league. Just look at the media exposure and sponsors it was able to amass just in a few years.

Frankly, the NCAA should be very wary of the developments that would unfold in the next few years.

1. I heard Mapua might take a leave next year because they would be closing their High School department. What if they finally decides not to come back? Mapua is one of the pillars of the NCAA and it has contributed a lot in its rich tradition. There is no love lost between Mapua and San Beda/Letran, but SBC and Letran would still prefer Mapua (a worthy opponent) to stay in the NCAA. I read somewhere that Mapua is even thinking of applying to the UAAP once it becomes a university.

2. San Beda is working on its firm intent to become a university. The new grade school and high school campus in Rizal (and hopefully the Law School's new campus at the Fort) are just one of the major means to achieve its end. San Beda will definitely try to apply with the UAAP after becoming a university. Many Ateneo alumni have signified their strong support.

3. If the aforementioned developments would push through, I think Letran would also leave the NCAA.

Speculations (except that of San Beda)? Probably. But one thing is for sure, many alumni of San Beda and even Letran and Mapua are no longer satisfied with the leagues competitiveness and popularity. These alumni would prefer reminiscing the old NCAA wars until the 80's.

If these major movements would materialize, NCAA will bump into a thick wall and the fat lady would start singing. It would be a sad ending for the oldest collegiate league in the country.

[crusader_saga]

Baranggay NCAA: UPHR vs. PCU

Sayang, i was thinking it would be SAN BEDA and LETRAN who would eventually meet in the finals. Pero hindi, sayang mataas sana ang ratings ng NCAA.

[dethgawd]

PCU - perpetual finals might be the end of the NCAA

[FerdinandMarcos]

dream finals?!?!
i'd rather call it a nightmare
wakeke, sino magssponsor nyan???
mawawalan ng kita studio23
bka tuluyan ng d i broadcast ang nc nextyear dahil jan sa matchup n yan

[ggow_miles]

hehe gudluck, kyla might be watching! peace!

[potsay]

nabasa ko yung coach ng pcu,66 straight wins in four years sa UM. galing!

[hobbiton]

toss coin na lang ang finals para matapos na ang kahihiyan ng ncaa. larin nmn kwenta mga team na mglalaro.

[katzet]

Originally posted by redboy
The reality is--- NCAA is being pitted against UAAP. There is a comparison being made between the two leagues and NCAA is losing the race.

A Lions and Knights Finals would boost the rating and popularity of the NCAA. It's the competing schools' spirit that molds a Finals into a classic one. The more drama and intensity injected into a game, the more audience it would atract. Has anyone here noticed why the games of the NCAA is aired during weekdays and the UAAP on weekends? ABS-CBN, as a profit-oriented company, would put its finger on the golden jar rather than the tar. If NCAA would not attract the needed number of viewers, ABS-CBN might not even broadcast its games in the future. We might end up in Channel 4.

I never said that the students of PCU and UPHS have no school spirit to brag. But compared to that of SBC and Letran, they are a distant second.

The two teams deserve to be in the Finals, but it's not good for the league as a whole. It's a nasty balancing act between an honest to goodness competition and the greedy world of capitalism.

"it's not good for the league" says who? why don't we go back to the purpose the league was organized anyway . . is it for money? is that all we care about?

[red_blood]

SOUR GRAPING? BITTERNESS? INSECURITY?

run on your blood...

goodluck!

GO DOLPHINS FIGHT!
ANIMO BEDA!

[katzet]

some filipinos are worst than Hitler . . .

[kalogz]

well letran ay malapit-lapit na rin maging university, bali-balita, may pinapagawa na silang building somewhere... ewan ko kung anong course ang nandon...

[cherlize]

Originally posted by redboy
The reality is--- NCAA is being pitted against UAAP. There is a comparison being made between the two leagues and NCAA is losing the race.

A Lions and Knights Finals would boost the rating and popularity of the NCAA. It's the competing schools' spirit that molds a Finals into a classic one. The more drama and intensity injected into a game, the more audience it would atract. Has anyone here noticed why the games of the NCAA is aired during weekdays and the UAAP on weekends? ABS-CBN, as a profit-oriented company, would put its finger on the golden jar rather than the tar. If NCAA would not attract the needed number of viewers, ABS-CBN might not even broadcast its games in the future. We might end up in Channel 4.

I never said that the students of PCU and UPHS have no school spirit to brag. But compared to that of SBC and Letran, they are a distant second.

The two teams deserve to be in the Finals, but it's not good for the league as a whole. It's a nasty balancing act between an honest to goodness competition and the greedy world of capitalism.

I couldn't have agreed more, redboy......

[cherlize]

Originally posted by Terry Sharon
eto ang real dream finals kasi naman masyado nyo silang minamaliit eh

dream finals?........... oo nga.:rolleyes:

gudlak na lang sa NCAA.......(sigh)

[frankeesl]

guys tama na siguro to.. respect na lang natin ang pcu-uphr game!

[wynne]

konting respeto naman sa PCU at UPHDS...kung ayaw nyo sila na maglaro o makita eh di hwag...para saan pa ang NCAA o nagpaliga pa sila kung ganun lang na pera at ratings sa TV lang habol...hwag nyo na i-compare ang UAAP...mahirap nang magsalita..

para sa kin humanga ako sa NCAA dahil tunay silang tagapagtaguyod ng collegiate/amateur basketball...hindi sila concern sa marketing o paano sila kikita...

[greenberet]

Originally posted by katzet
think of it as Lakers VS. Detroit . . .nobody wants Detroit to win but they did . . .

Discrimination is being frowned in PMAP and in the academe like Harvard. Mga unlearned lang ang gumagawa nun.

a whole lot of people, including me wanted Detroit to take a piece of LA . . . with the bruising plays of the Wallace boys, the energy of Rip and of course the tactics of Larry Brown . . . but thats a completely different story and a different forum of PEx

discrimination has nothing to do with this . . . i am looking at the NCAA title series from a viewpoint of a fan that has no NCAA affilition . . . i am neither a student, an alumni or even an owner of an NCAA-member school - capish ??? . . . lets face it, the NCAA games is not being telecast for the viewing pleasures of people with NCAA affliations alone . . . how many people across the Philippines and even in the Metropolis know these two schools anyways ??? . . . if you are from south Metro you would know Perpetual and if you are from the vicinity of Taft Ave. you know PCU but if you are from not anywhere near these place, a typical Pinoy wouldnt know that these schools even exist unless he has seen a game of these on TV of course . . .

thats why alot of NCAA viewers think that the NCAA season ended when San Beda and Letran took a bow . . .


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[saint_sinn3r]

hey just came back.....

congrats sa PCU for making it!!! Always believed, and look where we are now.... FINALS!!! Finally!!!

I can't seem to hear from the "critics" na ang yayabang last week.......

hmmmmm wonder what happened to them....... curious lang......

hi to katzet and red_blood!

Go Dolphins Fight!!!

[andrea zera]

bakit ba iritang-irita kayo kung uphr & pcu ang maglalaban sa finals??? 'di naman big deal 'di ba??? kasalanan ba nila kung graduate na or nag-pbl/pba na ang mga star players niyo??? pana-panahon lang 'yan... sana tanggapin na lang natin ng maluwag kung ano'ng nangyari... wala naman sigurong dayaan na nangyari dahil live nating napapanood ang mga games... siguro nga, oras na talaga nila para makatikim ng pagkapanalo...

tsaka 'di ba may binabayaran ang mga schools na parang contribution nila sa NCAA??? ang hindi ko lang alam, kung mas malaki talaga binibigay ng sbc, csjl, mit, ssc, & csb sa league para masabing mas nakaka-angat sila kaysa dun sa tatlong schools... kung pare-pareho lang naman, eh bakit kung parang sino silang nagmamataas na akala mo mas mayabang pa sa UAAP schools kung umasta...

pansin ko lang... mas nauna NCAA kaysa UAAP pero mas sikat ang UAAP... kulang lang talaga siguro sa funds ang NCAA kaya ganun ang nangyayari...

***i watched the game yesterday (PCU vs. CSJL)... wala nang upuan sa letran so sa side na lang ng PCU ako umupo... gusto ko lang naman malaman kung sinong mananalo kaya ako nanood... hindi talaga maiiwasan na may mga students na *ewan ko ba kung ano pwedeng itawag sa kanila* na 'di mo alam kung sobrang papansin lang o kung ano man ang nais nila mangyari sa buhay nila... ako nahihiya para sa school nila... mga nakaupo pa naman sa 1st row ng reserved tapos kung ano-ano ginagawa... kitang-kita tuloy... hay nako... kaya nasasabihan na squatter eh... sana tinatago na lang nila 'yung mga ganung students para 'di mapahiya 'yung school...***

wala lang... :D la ako masabi eh... :D

animo beda!!! :D
animo benilde!!! :D

[saint_sinn3r]

Originally posted by the Mind
Pray na lang tayo that it will be for the good of the NCAA. Baka mag UAAP na yung Beda. Mapua will have a leave of absence. Letran might follow Beda. Nightmare. It will not get sponsors. Hmm. rejoice while the iron is hot folks. It will no be long

Sourgraping....... maybe you're not good enough for the NCAA

Originally posted by the Mind
Common, love your school. Show some decency and culture. Admit defeat and you will do good to your school.

Sinabi mo yan.....

panindigan mo..... bading ka ata e, walang palabra de honor

[AussieOy]

Letran? University? Ano yan? Magbubulyawan sila ng UST? Won't that strain the order's resources supporting two Dominican Universities? And so close to each other?

[dayspin]

oks yan!!!


at least 2 hindi ganung ka-popular na school ang pumasok...para ipakita na balance ang league ...dream match up


its like... having...... nu and adamson for finals sa uaap

[saint_sinner]

IMO it's doesnt matter whoever makes it to the finals.....

the NCAA was created to foster sportmanship and camaraderie between the member schools. All 8 members fight it out and the best ones meet in the finals.... plain and simple.....

the PCU UPHR finals shows that they both played well in the eliminations and the Final Four, and they DESERVE..... let me repeat DESERVE to be in the finals......

I got a lot of feedback from friends in the UAAP that they look forward to be watching the finals on TV, and I don't think the ratings will go down.... Its something new for the NCAA, and I believe a lot of people will check the finals out.....

Go Dolphins Fight!

[touyakito]

Originally posted by wynne
konting respeto naman sa PCU at UPHDS...kung ayaw nyo sila na maglaro o makita eh di hwag...para saan pa ang NCAA o nagpaliga pa sila kung ganun lang na pera at ratings sa TV lang habol...hwag nyo na i-compare ang UAAP...mahirap nang magsalita..

para sa kin humanga ako sa NCAA dahil tunay silang tagapagtaguyod ng collegiate/amateur basketball...hindi sila concern sa marketing o paano sila kikita...

Tama ka!!! hindi naman mukhang pera sa NCAA maliban sa ibang school. Gusto nyo tapatan ko mga pagmumukha nyo ng pera. Yun lang pala magpapaligaya sa inyo... Ha Ha Ha. Sorry to say this: mas mukha kayong jologs sa mga sinasabi nyo... sinong gusto nyong makapunta sa finals Letran at Beda?!?! yukkksss!!! yang mga letran na yan magrerent lang ng service bus nila hindi pa maka afford ng aircon (kadiri kayo!!!) wag kayo mag deny nagtapat ang mga bus natin (im frm ALTAS)
nung cheering compition, at yang mga Beda na yan sinasabihan ang perpetual na Squater nung 2nd game, ehhh sinong mukhang squater?!?! diba magsasara na nga kayo!!!

Payamanan na lang!!!

masyado kasing minamaliit ang Dolphins at Altas...

[redboy]

Originally posted by katzet
"it's not good for the league" says who? why don't we go back to the purpose the league was organized anyway . . is it for money? is that all we care about?

I never said that the NCAA was organized for profit.

Reality check for you:

There is no debate that the real purpose of a collegiate league is to foster sportsmanship and friendshp. Unfortunately, with the changing times, everything is forced to work with capitalism and that includes the NCAA, UAAP, etc.

Every collegiate league needs all the exposure it could get and television coverage is the fastlane to popularity.

However, major television networks like ABS-CBN would only televise games of a league that would entice the needed number of major sponsors/advertisements. But major sponsors would only allow their products be seen during a game that commands viewer followings. So the NCAA should do its part by giving what the viewers like:

1. Quality ballgame:
2. Thrills and excitement. These include loyal followings of the students of well-known/popular schools, etc.

Unfortunately, since UAAP is fast becoming the most popular collegiate league, most, if not all, of the blue chip players of the juniors squad of the NCAA schools are transferring to the former. Even good players from around the nation are keen on playing for a UAAP member school and NCAA is the second choice. This would sacrifice the quality of the ballgames in the NCAA.

As to the second, I may sound elitist and many would be offended by what I am about to say but I believe this is the painful truth, only Letran, San Beda and Mapua have the rich tradition, students, alumni and popularity that can show what a real collegiate basketball Finals should be.

When San Beda entered the Final Four, the ratings of the NCAA jacked-up because even the followers of the UAAP schools followed the Lions' crusade. That is why ABS-CBN is already planning something special if San Beda collides against Letran in the Finals.

Some would cry discrimination. Probably yes. But that's how things work and the NCAA has no choice but to dance with the tune. If the NCAA would lose the race against the UAAP, it would not be impossible if the league would fade away considering likewise the planned exodus of old members. Right now, I'm even surprised when I learn from other people that they only know UAAP and thought that Letran, Mapua and San Beda is part of that league. To some people, NCAA is virtually unknown.

[redboy]

Originally posted by touyakito
Tama ka!!! hindi naman mukhang pera sa NCAA maliban sa ibang <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=school&v=56">school</a>. Gusto nyo tapatan ko mga pagmumukha nyo ng pera. Yun lang pala magpapaligaya sa inyo... Ha Ha Ha. Sorry to say this: mas mukha kayong jologs sa mga sinasabi nyo... sinong gusto nyong makapunta sa finals Letran at Beda?!?! yukkksss!!! yang mga letran na yan magrerent lang ng service bus nila hindi pa maka afford ng aircon (kadiri kayo!!!) wag kayo mag deny nagtapat ang mga bus natin (im frm ALTAS)
nung cheering compition, at yang mga Beda na yan sinasabihan ang perpetual na Squater nung 2nd game, ehhh sinong mukhang squater?!?! diba magsasara na nga kayo!!!

Payamanan na lang!!!

masyado kasing minamaliit ang Dolphins at Altas...


This kind of post really gives me the CREEPS!

NCAA is biting the dust against the UAAP, so at least let's try posting cerebral ideas/opinions unlike the one above. Mukha na tayong pang-barangay na liga dahil sa katulad mo!

[AussieOy]

This is a piece of bull. This league is by far from what you say fostering sportmanship and camaraderie. Hoolaganism and crowd jeering are not among of them. There's no such respect exist in this league. Tell that to the UPHR crowd who made extra strides to bring carefully made posters, in huge sticks even written with insults.

Originally posted by saint_sinner


the NCAA was created to foster sportmanship and camaraderie between the member schools. All 8 members fight it out and the best ones meet in the finals.... plain and simple.....

[katzet]

Originally posted by redboy
I never said that the NCAA was organized for profit.

Reality check for you:

There is no debate that the real purpose of a collegiate league is to foster sportsmanship and friendshp. Unfortunately, with the changing times, everything is forced to work with capitalism and that includes the NCAA, UAAP, etc.

Every collegiate league needs all the exposure it could get and television coverage is the fastlane to popularity.

However, major television networks like ABS-CBN would only televise games of a league that would entice the needed number of major sponsors/advertisements. But major sponsors would only allow their products be seen during a game that commands viewer followings. So the NCAA should do its part by giving what the viewers like:

1. Quality ballgame:
2. Thrills and excitement. These include loyal followings of the students of well-known/popular schools, etc.

Unfortunately, since UAAP is fast becoming the most popular collegiate league, most, if not all, of the blue chip players of the juniors squad of the NCAA schools are transferring to the former. Even good players from around the nation are keen on playing for a UAAP member school and NCAA is the second choice. This would sacrifice the quality of the ballgames in the NCAA.

As to the second, I may sound elitist and many would be offended by what I am about to say but I believe this is the painful truth, only Letran, San Beda and Mapua have the rich tradition, students, alumni and popularity that can show what a real collegiate basketball Finals should be.

When San Beda entered the Final Four, the ratings of the NCAA jacked-up because even the followers of the UAAP schools followed the Lions' crusade. That is why ABS-CBN is already planning something special if San Beda collides against Letran in the Finals.

Some would cry discrimination. Probably yes. But that's how things work and the NCAA has no choice but to dance with the tune. If the NCAA would lose the race against the UAAP, it would not be impossible if the league would fade away considering likewise the planned exodus of old members. Right now, I'm even surprised when I learn from other people that they only know UAAP and thought that Letran, Mapua and San Beda is part of that league. To some people, NCAA is virtually unknown.

You have a point and I agree with you but not on the point “that NCAA has no choice but to dance with the tune”. Correct me I’m wrong but it’s just a lame excuse for their refusal to think outside of the box. We always have a choice. They can go back to the drawing board and review their strategy.

If it is rating they want well, it is always the unexpected, the unusual that make up a good story. What made the ratings went up was the Lions unexpectedly getting into the final 4 and not Letran’s winning again the championship because that was almost possible and that was what everyone was expecting.

Filipinos love good stories. What could be more inspiring than the rag-to-riches story like the one started by Philstar?
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Rags-to-riches tale unfolds
By Joey Villar
The Philippine Star 09/17/2004

……….. Only last year, the two finished tied at the bottom and nobody expected the two to reach the Final Four, much more, the championship round this season.

But the Altas and the Dolphins have defied all odds by going all the way to the championship with two dramatic semifinal victories and will now dispute the crown that would give the victor the recognition as the league’s best. . . ……….
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Consider the John Gokongwei story and other stories of successful Filipinos who made it to top. . .

Call me idealist, non-conformist or a sentimental fool but my only wish is that the media would support, give, and create equal opportunity for everyone.

It’s a hopeless case to compare NCAA to UAAP in the same way that Letran, Beda, and Mapua can’t be compared with DLSU, Ateneo and maybe UP.


Cheers :)

[katzet]

Originally posted by AussieOy
This is a piece of bull. This league is by far from what you say fostering sportmanship and camaraderie. Hoolaganism and crowd jeering are not among of them. There's no such respect exist in this league. Tell that to the UPHR crowd who made extra strides to bring carefully made posters, in huge sticks even written with insults.

on lighter note, I admired the gesture of one of the officers of San Beda who tried to stop the jeering Beda crowd from taunting UPHD during the BEDA - UPHD match at the ARANETA.


world peace everyone :)

[wife_tpw454]

:mad: :mad: DREAM FINALS????:mad: :mad: well i think its not:mad: :mad: IT'S A NIGHTMARE...IT IS A RALLY OF SQH2O

LETRAN WILL STILL BE CHAMPION FOR US:)
ARRIBA LETRAN
ANIMO SAN BEDA

[katzet]

Originally posted by greenberet
a whole lot of people, including me wanted Detroit to take a piece of LA . . . with the bruising plays of the Wallace boys, the energy of Rip and of course the tactics of Larry Brown . . . but thats a completely different story and a different forum of PEx

discrimination has nothing to do with this . . . i am looking at the NCAA title series from a viewpoint of a fan that has no NCAA affilition . . . i am neither a student, an alumni or even an owner of an NCAA-member school - capish ??? . . . lets face it, the NCAA games is not being telecast for the viewing pleasures of people with NCAA affliations alone . . . how many people across the Philippines and even in the Metropolis know these two schools anyways ??? . . . if you are from south Metro you would know Perpetual and if you are from the vicinity of Taft Ave. you know PCU but if you are from not anywhere near these place, a typical Pinoy wouldnt know that these schools even exist unless he has seen a game of these on TV of course . . .

thats why alot of NCAA viewers think that the NCAA season ended when San Beda and Letran took a bow . . .


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just for the sake of argument how big is "a lot of NCAA viewers"

and what exactly is your point?


cheers! same here am not from any of those school affiliated with the NC . . . i have good friends who are basketball players

[redboy]

Originally posted by katzet
You have a point and I agree with you but not on the point “that NCAA has no choice but to dance with the tune”. Correct me I’m wrong but it’s just a lame excuse for their refusal to think outside of the box. We always have a choice. They can go back to the drawing board and review their strategy.

If it is rating they want well, it is always the unexpected, the unusual that make up a good story. What made the ratings went up was the Lions unexpectedly getting into the final 4 and not Letran’s winning again the championship because that was almost possible and that was what everyone was expecting.

Filipinos love good stories. What could be more inspiring than the rag-to-riches story like the one started by Philstar?
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Rags-to-riches tale unfolds
By Joey Villar
The Philippine Star 09/17/2004

……….. Only last year, the two finished tied at the bottom and nobody expected the two to reach the Final Four, much more, the championship round this season.

But the Altas and the Dolphins have defied all odds by going all the way to the championship with two dramatic semifinal victories and will now dispute the crown that would give the victor the recognition as the league’s best. . . ……….
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Consider the John Gokongwei story and other stories of successful Filipinos who made it to top. . .

Call me idealist, non-conformist or a sentimental fool but my only wish is that the media would support, give, and create equal opportunity for everyone.

It’s a hopeless case to compare NCAA to UAAP in the same way that Letran, Beda, and Mapua can’t be compared with DLSU, Ateneo and maybe UP.


Cheers :)


Back to the drawing boards?

THE POINT, IS THERE IS NO CHOICE. If we lose the support of ABS-CBN, that's a ticket to Catmandoo for the NCAA. Rags to riches type of a story? Gokongwei story? It's like comapring a banana to an apple. No parallelism.

I'm sorry but if the NCAA cannot guarantee a strong contention against the UAAP, it will go down the sink hole. It will continue to exist, but would anyone here be genuinely satisfied being part of a league that only merit a 4x4 column in a newspaper?

Just try visiting the sites of PEX and University Belt.

I feel sorry for you when you said that it is a hopeless case to compare NCAA with UAAP. The NCAA is too proud to say that it cannot go head-to-head against the UAAP. I sure hope you are alone in having such kind of thinking. No wonder--you already raised the white flag.

You even top it all off by saying that Letran, San Beda (not Beda) and Mapua cannot be compared with DLSU, Ateneo and UP. Inasmuch as I would like to air my overwhelming objection to what you have just stated, it ain't worth my two cents.

I grew up following the games ever since Ateneo and La Salle is still with the league. To see it getting bamboozled and relegated as the second best collegiate league is a tragedy indeed.

[orks]

dahil sa pag katalo ng letran at beda, nagmukang interbaranggay ang NCAA finals.... bakit?? kyo na bhla mag isip kung bkit... *** malaman ang sgot... manood nlng kyo ng finals... :-} nsabi ko *** to dahil nrin sa mga narrinig ko, sa MRT,LRT sa SM, or even sa mga book store... ang BAHO dw ng finals ng NCAA...... SORY HA!!! narinig ko ***!!!!!!!!

[Clarkent]

Originally posted by redboy
The NCAA is making the wrong decision in admiting any school it fancies. It sacrifices the quality and the tradition it was able to build for almost a decade. Along with it are the kind of students that pollute the games. Evidence?--please refer to the above post.

In the 80's, the UAAP was only second to NCAA in terms of following and popularity. I remembered my Atenean cousins blaming their school for leaving the NCAA because their Finals match-up against UE was not even given media exposure in the newspapers. They are still craving for the Ateneo and San Beda rivalry because they lost the last time these schools bumped into each other. But now, UAAP has become the premier collegiate league. Just look at the media exposure and sponsors it was able to amass just in a few years.

Frankly, the NCAA should be very wary of the developments that would unfold in the next few years.

1. I heard Mapua might take a leave next year because they would be closing their High School department. What if they finally decides not to come back? Mapua is one of the pillars of the NCAA and it has contributed a lot in its rich tradition. There is no love lost between Mapua and San Beda/Letran, but SBC and Letran would still prefer Mapua (a worthy opponent) to stay in the NCAA. I read somewhere that Mapua is even thinking of applying to the UAAP once it becomes a university.

2. San Beda is working on its firm intent to become a university. The new grade school and high school campus in Rizal (and hopefully the Law School's new campus at the Fort) are just one of the major means to achieve its end. San Beda will definitely try to apply with the UAAP after becoming a university. Many Ateneo alumni have signified their strong support.

3. If the aforementioned developments would push through, I think Letran would also leave the NCAA.

Speculations (except that of San Beda)? Probably. But one thing is for sure, many alumni of San Beda and even Letran and Mapua are no longer satisfied with the leagues competitiveness and popularity. These alumni would prefer reminiscing the old NCAA wars until the 80's.

If these major movements would materialize, NCAA will bump into a thick wall and the fat lady would start singing. It would be a sad ending for the oldest collegiate league in the country.

How about Mapua, Letran and San Beda to form a new league..

Just like what UP and UST did during the early years of NCAA..

[katzet]

Originally posted by redboy
Back to the drawing boards?

THE POINT, IS THERE IS NO CHOICE. If we lose the support of ABS-CBN, that's a ticket to Catmandoo for the NCAA. Rags to riches type of a story? Gokongwei story? It's like comapring a banana to an apple. No parallelism.

I'm sorry but if the NCAA cannot guarantee a strong contention against the UAAP, it will go down the sink hole. It will continue to exist, but would anyone here be genuinely satisfied being part of a league that only merit a 4x4 column in a newspaper?

Just try visiting the sites of PEX and University Belt.

I feel sorry for you when you said that it is a hopeless case to compare NCAA with UAAP. The NCAA is too proud to say that it cannot go head-to-head against the UAAP. I sure hope you are alone in having such kind of thinking. No wonder--you already raised the white flag.

You even top it all off by saying that Letran, San Beda (not Beda) and Mapua cannot be compared with DLSU, Ateneo and UP. Inasmuch as I would like to air my overwhelming objection to what you have just stated, it ain't worth my two cents.

I grew up following the games ever since Ateneo and La Salle is still with the league. To see it getting bamboozled and relegated as the second best collegiate league is a tragedy indeed.

so what exactly is your point blame Perpetual and PCU for winning the game?

[blue_squatters]

dream or a nightmare?

[saint_sinn3r]

Originally posted by AussieOy
This is a piece of bull. This league is by far from what you say fostering sportmanship and camaraderie. Hoolaganism and crowd jeering are not among of them. There's no such respect exist in this league. Tell that to the UPHR crowd who made extra strides to bring carefully made posters, in huge sticks even written with insults.

Boy, were you born yesterday? Or Aussie basketball is a bit soft compared to Filipino basketball? Wake up dude!!! Hooliganism and crowd jeering ARE part of basketball, especially for us Filipinos. From grassroots basketball to the PBA (Ginebra games), the crowd IS always the sixth man...... Gotta live with it.

[redboy]

Originally posted by katzet
so what exactly is your point blame Perpetual and PCU for winning the game?

Sa iyo naggaling yun, di sa akin.

I never blamed PCU or Perpetual. What I'm just saying is the cold truth ------ backlash of a PCU and Perpeptual Finals with regards to the popularity and viewer following of the NCAA. We are not talking about the achievements of both squads and their determination to reach this far. We are talking about the effect on the marketability of the NCAA with the viewers.

No matter what we say---"malakas manlait", "bakit ganun kababa ang tingin sa PCU at Perpetual", "they deserve to be in the Finals", etc. The fact remains---the Finals is a big letdown for the NCAA.

One last thing, why did PCU and Perpetual even agreed that the Finals be played in the RMC? Bakit di man ginawa sa Araneta Coliseum so the venue won't be an eye sore for the T.V. viewers.

[AussieOy]

Let's leave PBA out of this since there's really no school spirit involved there- it's all about the money and our country sucks in pro basketball anyway.

I'm not giving the UAAP a good light but at least there the schools show respect, unlike in the NCAA, garapalan ang bastusan. STUPIDO!!!

Originally posted by saint_sinn3r
Boy, were you born yesterday? Or Aussie basketball is a bit soft compared to Filipino basketball? Wake up dude!!! Hooliganism and crowd jeering ARE part of basketball, especially for us Filipinos. From grassroots basketball to the PBA (Ginebra games), the crown IS always the sixth man...... Gotta live with it.

[greenberet]

Originally posted by katzet
just for the sake of argument how big is "a lot of NCAA viewers"

and what exactly is your point?


cheers! same here am not from any of those school affiliated with the NC . . . i have good friends who are basketball players


read again my text and you would know exactly my point . . . no need to elaborate . . . you should be old enough to comprehend . . .

[saint_sinn3r]

Originally posted by AussieOy
Let's leave PBA out of this since there's really no school spirit involved there- it's all about the money and our country sucks in pro basketball anyway.

I'm not giving the UAAP a good light but at least there the schools show respect, unlike in the NCAA, garapalan ang bastusan. STUPIDO!!!

Boy, its OBVIOUS that you don't know Filipino basketball..... I suggest watch more basketball before making these comments and start acting like an expert....

[the Mind]

Katzet is a PE teacher na kabit ni Suarez.

Saint-sinner is a matandang dalaga who licks ----- of olano

[saint_sinn3r]

Originally posted by the Mind
Saint_sinner is a heretic... loser...sour graping. Admit mo na kasi that you are just a lowly sardines that you were beaten. That you can't accept defeat..That you are nothing in this world. that you are cheaters. TAPOS ans kaso

Sige mag post ka pa.........

[ryce_djembe]

Originally posted by touyakito
(im frm ALTAS)
nung cheering compition, at yang mga Beda na yan sinasabihan ang perpetual na Squater nung 2nd game, ehhh sinong mukhang squater?!?! diba magsasara na nga kayo!!!

Payamanan na lang!!!

masyado kasing minamaliit ang Dolphins at Altas...

what closure are you talking about?!? the GINORMOUS SAN BEDA RIZAL CAMPUS has just recently opened, how come san beda will close?!

about the squatter thing, *** ba nanguna?! when we, the proud bedans were singing our alma mater hymn (even though our team lose the game) , kayong mga altas bulitas ang nambastos! all of you were chanting "uwi na kyo!" while we were singing. isn't that a form of 'pambabastos'?! maybe ur school doesn't have any alma mater hymn that's why nang-asar na lang kyo!!! dahil dun kaya kyo nasigawan na squatter! iskwater mga ugali!

for your info, singing the school hymn after every game has been a long-time tradition in the ncaa as far as we can go back during the 70's when ateneo was still in the league... nito na lang nawala....

during that time, intensity between rival schools like san beda & ateneo was really up to the extremes. however, if the game is already finished, the winning school has the chance to sing its hymn 1st, followed by the losing team...then everybody would just stand up and applause as if no hard fought game occured. that's a display of pure sportsmanship...

payamanan na lang?!?! geesh mate...are you sure that you know what you're talking about?!? eto na *** eh...after the game between san beda & your school, lahat kayo eh nagtatakbuhan papunta sa mga ni-rent nyong bus baka kasi maiiwan kayo!! eh ang mga bedista san nagpunta?! sa parking lot...take note, sa PARKING LOT just across the RMC!! get the logic croykie?

and also, nung game 1...who's cars occupied the araneta coliseum parking lot?! sa mga bedista! wake up your willy.....:D

that's all i can say...

[boredtoday]

^ bayaan mo na yan tsong... nakarugby yan.

[AussieOy]

Take the higher road. Let them have their 5 min of fame.

Originally posted by ryce_djembe
what closure are you talking about?!? the GINORMOUS SAN BEDA RIZAL CAMPUS has just recently opened, how come san beda will close?!

about the squatter thing, *** ba nanguna?! when we, the proud bedans were singing our alma mater hymn (even though our team lose the game) , kayong mga altas bulitas ang nambastos! all of you were chanting "uwi na kyo!" while we were singing. isn't that a form of 'pambabastos'?! maybe ur school doesn't have any alma mater hymn that's why nang-asar na lang kyo!!! dahil dun kaya kyo nasigawan na squatter! iskwater mga ugali!

for your info, singing the school hymn after every game has been a long-time tradition in the ncaa as far as we can go back during the 70's when ateneo was still in the league... nito na lang nawala....

during that time, intensity between rival schools like san beda & ateneo was really up to the extremes. however, if the game is already finished, the winning school has the chance to sing its hymn 1st, followed by the losing team...then everybody would just stand up and applause as if no hard fought game occured. that's a display of pure sportsmanship...

payamanan na lang?!?! geesh mate...are you sure that you know what you're talking about?!? eto na *** eh...after the game between san beda & your school, lahat kayo eh nagtatakbuhan papunta sa mga ni-rent nyong bus baka kasi maiiwan kayo!! eh ang mga bedista san nagpunta?! sa parking lot...take note, sa PARKING LOT just across the RMC!! get the logic croykie?

and also, nung game 1...who's cars occupied the araneta coliseum parking lot?! sa mga bedista! wake up your willy.....:D

that's all i can say...

[touyakito]

Originally posted by ryce_djembe

payamanan na lang?!?! geesh mate...are you sure that you know what you're talking about?!? eto na *** eh...after the game between san beda & your school, lahat kayo eh nagtatakbuhan papunta sa mga ni-rent nyong bus baka kasi maiiwan kayo!! eh ang mga bedista san nagpunta?! sa parking lot...take note, sa PARKING LOT just across the RMC!! get the logic croykie?


Kung pwede lang magkotse nun bakit hindi ehh kaso required kaming sumama sa service bus!!!

[aZtec_27]

It was a very exciting game yesterday. More like of the Battle of the Underdogs.:) Despite of your fears of it being a marketing nightmare, it really helps build true sportmanship in the league coz its giving different teams a chance to play in the finals and show what they've got. And for a change din, some may disappointed coz their bets weren't able to make it but panahon panahon lang yan. if the players were able to accept their defeat might as well do too. Sometimes games can be so boring pag same teams lang ang maglalaban sa finals, and so predictable.:)

[theo78]

it was a great game yesterday...in fairness...i expect a rugged game 2...if game 1 was kinda physical, oh well...basta wala lang away...and thank goodness, it's araneta...can't stand the heat at rizal...

[red_blood]

aztec_27, you are right dude!

the game yesterday was really exciting..

i was in dermclinic yesterday and all the clients and even the doctors were all excited and shouted when PCU got the basket.. comparing how i reacted... as if they came from PCU..

well at least.. the two teams caught their attention..

regarding.. losing money because it is not marketable.. well, lets leave it to ABS-CBN... they are "ABS-CBN"... they have the best people in marketing industry... it's their job to promote it.. there are no bad products.. only lousy marketing strategy..

[red_blood]

Originally posted by theo78
it was a great game yesterday...in fairness...i expect a rugged game 2...if game 1 was kinda physical, oh well...basta wala lang away...and thank goodness, it's araneta...can't stand the heat at rizal...

it was held in RMC cause i think Araneta wasnt available yesterday... the next 2 games will be in Araneta..

see yah!

[theo78]

yeah, i wish philsports...yun sana kung nag san beda-letran yung finals...available pala siya kahapon...anyway, okay lang

[ryce_djembe]

Originally posted by touyakito
Kung pwede lang magkotse nun bakit hindi ehh kaso required kaming sumama sa service bus!!!

what an excuse....gradeschool stuff!

[ms_suave]

just wnt to say to touyakito...ISIPIN MO MUNA PINAGSASABI MO!!!!

eto yung mga sinabi mong kalokohan!!!!

1. "sinasabi mong magsasara na ang beda"
- dude, howcome na magsasara ang beda e nagkakaroon nga sila ng expansion e. Do u knw SBC Rizal for HS and SBC Alabang(formerly St. Benedict College), include also the SBC College of LAW at the fort? Sa tingin mo ba na magsasara beda habang nageexpand sila?

2. "sino kayang mukhang squatter?"
- KAYO, bkit? kayo kasi nangungunang mang-asar ng "beda-tulo laway" and sinasabayan pa kyo ng banda nyo kaya kayo nasabihang 'SQUATTER". Di naman kami mangangantyaw if di nyo kami prinovoke.

3. "required kayo sumakay ng service bus"
- kung talagang may wheels kayo e magdadala na kayo nun kasi alam nyong malayo ang araneta sa south. di rason yung required kayo sumakay ng service bus.

ayoko na sana *** patulan pero gusto kong ipaalam sayo yung mga di mo alam. Please bago ka magpost,siguraduhin mong TOTOO ipopost mo!

Ayaw ko makipag-away. PEACE BRO!!!!

[ryce_djembe]

easy lang bro...hayaan mo na yan.

[chiqui donnabel]

ah, basta! ako PCU pa rin!

sana nga, after 8 long years, maka-1st time naman ang dolphins!

-aba, like a virgin n itu!!!-

[LeMoNMiNt]

uPhR oR pCU?! lets see on wed kung cnu **** mananaLo..
gudluck for both teams...


PCU sTill in SpiRit

[theo78]

good luck! :)

[LuMbErJaCk]

end this tread. nkakasma ng loob. just think wa d other guy have said. "PCU vs UPHDS myt b d end of NCAA".. how rude ****. anyway, dis is a free country. say *** u want. sigh!

[Clarkent]

Originally posted by touyakito
Kung pwede lang magkotse nun bakit hindi ehh kaso required kaming sumama sa service bus!!!

ang tanong.. meron ba?

[Clarkent]

Originally posted by touyakito
Tama ka!!! hindi naman mukhang pera sa NCAA maliban sa ibang school. Gusto nyo tapatan ko mga pagmumukha nyo ng pera. Yun lang pala magpapaligaya sa inyo... Ha Ha Ha. Sorry to say this: mas mukha kayong jologs sa mga sinasabi nyo... sinong gusto nyong makapunta sa finals Letran at Beda?!?! yukkksss!!! yang mga letran na yan magrerent lang ng service bus nila hindi pa maka afford ng aircon (kadiri kayo!!!) wag kayo mag deny nagtapat ang mga bus natin (im frm ALTAS)
nung cheering compition, at yang mga Beda na yan sinasabihan ang perpetual na Squater nung 2nd game, ehhh sinong mukhang squater?!?! diba magsasara na nga kayo!!!

Payamanan na lang!!!

masyado kasing minamaliit ang Dolphins at Altas...

Social Climber ka ba? Bat ka ganyan..

Its a FACT na that people from other schools (like most of those from NCAA) think Perpetual is a not-so-good school.. (or partang pampagulo lang sa nCAA since its 1984 debut)

Pero dahil sayo, the image of your school has turned worst than before..

tumigil ka na, baka malimutan na namin na paaralan pala UPHDS hinde isang bus sa tapat ng RMC lang

[jerem]

touyakito, kawawa ka naman, you cant use your own car...hehe