FINEX-eliminations round!

[pox]

hello pips. today is the eliminations round of the 6th inter-collegiate finance competition.plz post naman the winners.thanks!

[alikishi]

UP Diliman topped it with 435 pts (I think). 2nd is DLSU-Dasmarinas with 380. Lasalle Manila was 5th with 330 and Ateneo de Manila is in 6th with 315 pts

[XetraDAX]

really? oh no,, bakit pang 5th lang ang La Salle!

[pox]

well, UP cebu is also on top with 375 pts.!

we beat san carlos.

[tracy_0621]

wow, congrats UP!

[coup_plotter]

Kudos to the UP CBA students!!!

[dcomet]

really? oh no,, bakit pang 5th lang ang La Salle!

how about noting la salle-dasma's performance?

[yeah_right?!]

What happened to De La Salle - Manila? Well, it aint that late to catch up with the leaders. Cmon y'all.. show 'em what you got..

[Lek-Lek]

The event last Friday determined which schools will make it to the Finals next week (September 22, at the Lyceum of the Philippines). At the finals, regardless of the rankings during the elimination rounds, all schools will have to start from zero.

So, people from AdMU and DLSU-Manila, there is still hope. :D

[Hulk]

Man I had a great time as judge last Friday! *okay*

Here are some facts for you guys:
1. There are 20 teams that qualified to this year's final round.
2. It's the first time that no wildcards qualified, meaning the groups were pretty well balanced.
3. Four (4) La Salle schools qualified in this order:
DLSU-Dasmarinas (380)
DLSU-Lipa (??)
DLSU-Taft (330)
DLSU-Bacolod (325)
Hehe! Even Bacolod nearly beat Taft.
4. Two (2) UP schools qualified, namely UP-Diliman (435) and UP Visayas (375). UP Iloilo was eliminated at the last question by CPU.
5. Two (2) Ateneo schools qualified, namely Ateneo de Manila and Ateneo de Zamboanga.
6. Surprise qualifiers include Pasig Catholic College and Enverga.

Good luck to all qualifiers on Sept. 22!


:frank:

[Lek-Lek]

Hulk: Which leg of the elims did you handle?

[Hulk]

Bacolod. *okay*


:frank:

[Lek-Lek]

Oh, I see.

I have a few suggestions sana to make the future stagings of the ICFC more exiciting.

There is this contest sponsored by the Operations Research Society of the Philippines - the ORSP Quiz - and the questions are constructed such that there is no room for wild guessing - meaning, there are no possible answers to choose from and the contestants will really have to KNOW and SOLVE for the answers.

Maybe you can suggest to the JFINEX Committee that questions in future contests be constructed in the same way?

[alikishi]

maybe you could also request the judges and quiz masters of the Manila leg to brush up on their english :D

did anyone remember: "Can I have some quiet please?!?!" :eek:

[Hulk]

I will try to send your constructive suggestions to them.

In the finals, I am expecting an exciting match-up between UP-Diliman and a resurgent DLSU-Taft. Whoever wins between the two, gets to finally take the trophy home. However I expect a lot of darkhorses this time. A lot of schools have picked up experience during the past few years that will enable them to compete for the top prize. I expect UP-Visayas and USLS to challenge.


:frank:

[halikinu_rahrah]

Originally posted by Hulk
Man I had a great time as judge last Friday! *okay*

Here are some facts for you guys:
1. There are 20 teams that qualified to this year's final round.
2. It's the first time that no wildcards qualified, meaning the groups were pretty well balanced.
3. Four (4) La Salle schools qualified in this order:
DLSU-Dasmarinas (380)
DLSU-Lipa (??)
DLSU-Taft (330)
DLSU-Bacolod (325)
Hehe! Even Bacolod nearly beat Taft.
4. Two (2) UP schools qualified, namely UP-Diliman (435) and UP Visayas (375). UP Iloilo was eliminated at the last question by CPU.
5. Two (2) Ateneo schools qualified, namely Ateneo de Manila and Ateneo de Zamboanga.
6. Surprise qualifiers include Pasig Catholic College and Enverga.

Good luck to all qualifiers on Sept. 22!


:frank:

ewan ko lang ha, pero wala talagang ka-krebi-krebilidad ang Finex competition ngayon.

[alikishi]

Originally posted by halikinu_rahrah
ewan ko lang ha, pero wala talagang ka-krebi-krebilidad ang Finex competition ngayon.

krebilidad? or is it kredibilidad? :bleh:

[halikinu_rahrah]

thanks!

[talipandas9]

bakit walang kredibilidad ang jfinex this year?

let us see on sept 22 how up, lasalle, ateneo and ust will fare? univ of san carlos was runner up to dlsu-m last year. i think dlsu-m beat lipa (?) in the elims....

[Lek-Lek]

Originally posted by Hulk
I will try to send your constructive suggestions to them.

In the finals, I am expecting an exciting match-up between UP-Diliman and a resurgent DLSU-Taft. Whoever wins between the two, gets to finally take the trophy home. However I expect a lot of darkhorses this time. A lot of schools have picked up experience during the past few years that will enable them to compete for the top prize. I expect UP-Visayas and USLS to challenge.


:frank:


I hope the pressure gets shifted to UP-Diliman and DLSU-Manila. But do expect AdMU to give it their best shot in the finals. ;)

[Hulk]

If Ateneo wins, the stakes would be bigger next year kung puro ng yung tatlong schools.

Personally, I wish a school other than the Big 3 wins it! Hehe! Parang basketball din ang ICFC, someday the other schools will eventually catch up. After all, the contest was designed mainly to serve as a benchmark for the respective finance programs of the participating schools.


:frank:

[Lek-Lek]

If the format of the contest stays the same, I will have to agree with you Hulk.

But I am not sure whether the same will be true if the suggestions I made in my previous post will be implemented. Or it may actually level everything out for everyone, and who knows, the contestants of the Big 3 schools may just have been playing on mere luck by simply guessing amongst the choices. ;)

Btw, aren't they going to make the ICFC a regional competition? That should be more exiciting - imagine competitors from NUS, HKUST, Chulalongkorn, etc.

[Hulk]

I think that's the plan, to eventually bring it to a regional level. Maybe in a few years our schools will be competing with the best of Asia and Australia. I wanna see how we compete with the Chinese, Aussies and Indians! *okay*

Hehe! Dapat pwede din tayong gawa ng Dream Team of 5 contestants. Now that's an interesting idea. What combination of courses/programs (i.e. UP's BAA, ADMU's ME, DLSU's MFI, etc.) would best represent RP in an Asian finance competition?


:frank:

[Lek-Lek]

I am not really sure. Ateneans are a bit disadvantaged because of our curriculum structure. As of now, we're simply hoping to consistently be in the Top 3 of each ICFC edition.

We're probably more confident with strategy games and marketing stuff.

Anyway, I am quite confident our team this year will give it a very good fight come September 22. :)

[Dennis21]

Congrats to UP Diliman!

bakit walang UPLB? Meron bang Finance dun?

[cHaSeR]

Can someone here post the names and courses of the players from UP-D, ADMU, and DLSU-M?

[YFU'ER]

Hulk and LekLek,

Why doesn't the Finex use the question/answer phase as a means to come up with 5 worthy schools. This will test the students basic knowledge. The finals should then be the time tested Socratic method where in the team has to take a specific position using all their Finance knowledge.

Let us say the 5 finalist are named on a Saturday afternoon. All teams are given the same case to defend infront of a distinguished panel. All the teams are sequestered in a hotel overnight to work on their presentation without outside help. All they need is a laptop and a printer to prepare their analysis but no internet access or cell phones please. By reverse order of finish, the teams are given 45 minutes to come up with a solution and answer questions from the judges. The final results are announced Sunday afternoon.

Using the case method in the finals will level the playing field for all schools. It tests the contestants analytical skills in conjunction with the basic understanding of Finance. Now this will definitely tests the contestants ability to handle pressure.

[Lek-Lek]

YFU'ER: You are talking of the US b-school paradigm - where students tackle cases in competitions. I doubt it if FINEX can or is willing to change the format of the ICFC and pattern it the way Americans do.

To me, that is the ideal contest format. It will not only test the contestants' abilityto apply finance theory to real world business cases and scenarios, that too, will test grace under pressure, confidence and eloquence. And I am of the opinion that the abovementioned characteristics are qualities that business leaders today must have.

cHaSeR: Our five contestants come from four different programs;

BS Management-Honors Program
BS Management, major in Legal Management
BS Management Engineering
AB Economics-Honors Program

[Lek-Lek]

YFU'ER: By the way, your suggestion of letting the contestants stay overnight in a hotel with laptops and printers is a bit too idealistic. Grabe, FINEX can't even provide them with decent calculators. You'll probably get shocked if you see what kind of calculators are given to contestants.

[YFU'ER]

Lek-Lek,

Idealistic, yes. I also wanted to take out cheating as part of the equation. As I see it, none of the participants will actually be doing much sleep but more number crunching during the night preparing their defense for the orals and hard copy.

This reminds me when they first allowed calculators in college. Professors had to check all calculators to give people a level playing field. Some of my classmates owned expensive HP programmable calculators. They plugged all of the necessary formulas into the calculators. Big advantage. The administration became wise and instead supplied calculators that they had to return, calculators were similar to those used in accounting boards.

The other schools may howl at the oral portions in defending their case analysis. Why? Big advantage to Ateneo, LaSalle and UP. But you are right, in the business world any expensive project has to be defended among your peers.

Off-topic:

I thought you were headed to AnnArbor? Magaling din and program ng UT-Austin, Berkeley, UI Champaign-Urbana and the school of Victory. Good luck to your team and your career in academia.

[Lek-Lek]

YFU'ER,

I do hope that FINEX seriously looks into the possibility of holding oral case defense competitions for the final rounds in future ICFCs. In my opinion, future business leaders should be trained how to thrive in very vague situations, where there is a need to structure issues, organize possible solutions and arrive at optimal decisions. After all, the real world of business and finance isn't as concise, clear and simple as solving a multiple choice problem for 150 seconds.


As for my graduate school stuff, I think UM-Ann Arbor wasn't willing enough to take me in. ;)

That's okay. I applied to an MS program that required solid foundations in accounting, but you see, I only managed to show up to 9 credit units of accounting for my undergrad degree.

Next year, I'll go through a more serious process of applying to US b-schools, this time to MBA programs. I'm most definitely applying to the good school in Philly where victory got his MBA and will soon finish his Ph.D. Aside from that, I'll also apply to two schools in Illinois (one in Chicago and another one in nearby Evanston), one in Soldiers Field, Boston, and another one in Charlottesville, Virginia. The latter two schools are more renowned for their dreaded case methods. ;)

[YFU'ER]

LekLek,

Heh heh heh. A big correction. There is no B school in Soldiers Field. Soldiers Field is the stadium where the Chicago Bears play their home games. Two miles north of Soldier Field are the evening B school campuses of both Northwestern and Chicago.

What, no CBS? I can not believe that Rabbaddal has not tried to recruit you for his own alma mater.

If you decide to attend any of the B schools in the Chicago area, send me a PM. I'll take you out, my treat.

It is now harder to apply to the top schools offering an MS degree in Accounting. The reason is because all accounting grads can no longer take the accounting boards directly out of college. They must earn additional units through graduate school hence they flock to the MS programs majoring in Accounting or Taxation to meet the requirements. Some avoid the MBA altogether because one needs to get several years of experience before they can get accepted to the top B schools and an MS degree is only 1 additional year of schooling compared to the MBA of 2 years. This ruling took effect a year or two ago.

[Lek-Lek]

YFU'ER,

I'll have to correct you. I didn't say there's a "Soldiers Field" in Illinois. I said, I'm applying to two schools in Illinois, one in Chicago and another one in nearby Evanston.

I also said, I'll probably apply to two more schools, one of them is located in Soldiers Field, Boston, MA (Harvard Business School). ;)

[ROYAL-blood]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek
As for my graduate school stuff, I think UM-Ann Arbor wasn't willing enough to take me in. ;)

That's okay. I applied to an MS program that required solid foundations in accounting, but you see, I only managed to show up to 9 credit units of accounting for my undergrad degree.

Next year, I'll go through a more serious process of applying to US b-schools, this time to MBA programs. I'm most definitely applying to the good school in Philly where victory got his MBA and will soon finish his Ph.D. Aside from that, I'll also apply to two schools in Illinois (one in Chicago and another one in nearby Evanston), one in Soldiers Field, Boston, and another one in Charlottesville, Virginia. The latter two schools are more renowned for their dreaded case methods. ;)


Oh my gully! The Atenean cyclone smacks PEX once more. And this time around, it’s even more awful! :shakehead:
I mean, is there really a need to chat about where you’re going for your post-grad studies in this very thread? Hell-ooo!!!!! Geniuses, what’s it this time for, ha?!
What’s the need for broadcasting it in a forum that’s supposed to be tackling matters entirely outlaying from your personal dreams! Geniuses, why!!!!!!! Why do you always have to publicize who is this Atenean loser going to which loser B-School!!!! The nerve!!!! When will these Atenean pretensions be ever stopped!!! Oh HOPE, where are you? The Philippines’ Financial crisis is still in the loom and here you are people flaunting your absolute nonsense. Please!!!!
And Dudes, what’s the PM for? If you’re here to JUST exhibit your imaginations, please do it clandestinely especially if that long-awaited offer remains a mere dream up to now. At least, you’re helping some UP iskos and La Sallites to save their pukes for the next Atenean cyclone to strike in the immediate future.

Kapal muks!


:throwup:

[ROYAL-blood]

Congrats to UP!

May it be in just a mere contest or not, the world knows UP is ALWAYS the champion because all the best students are in UP. Those representatives of other schools are just mere UPCAT rejects.

Mabuhay ang UP!

Pahiyain ang mga mayayabang!

[Ultra_MegaStar]

^ ^ citycass, LBS, gerry_lim, etc., etc. ^ ^

What are your credentials?

1. Rejected from Ateneo
2. Accepted in UP
3. Allegedly studied "English for Foreign Students" in Warwick U (whatever that is)
4.
5.
6.
7.

Please feel free to add. We are willing to be impressed. :lol:

"Mr UP the best in the whole universe" .... reincarnated for the nth time! :lol:

Let's start the countdown to his being banned in PEx. :lol:

1....2.....3....4....5.....6....... .. .. ... ..

[Lek-Lek]

Originally posted by ROYAL-blood
Oh my gully! The Atenean cyclone smacks PEX once more. And this time around, it’s even more awful! :shakehead:
I mean, is there really a need to chat about where you’re going for your post-grad studies in this very thread? Hell-ooo!!!!! Geniuses, what’s it this time for, ha?!
What’s the need for broadcasting it in a forum that’s supposed to be tackling matters entirely outlaying from your personal dreams! Geniuses, why!!!!!!! Why do you always have to publicize who is this Atenean loser going to which loser B-School!!!! The nerve!!!! When will these Atenean pretensions be ever stopped!!! Oh HOPE, where are you? The Philippines’ Financial crisis is still in the loom and here you are people flaunting your absolute nonsense. Please!!!!
And Dudes, what’s the PM for? If you’re here to JUST exhibit your imaginations, please do it clandestinely especially if that long-awaited offer remains a mere dream up to now. At least, you’re helping some UP iskos and La Sallites to save their pukes for the next Atenean cyclone to strike in the immediate future.

Kapal muks!


:throwup:

Excuse me, I will not engage you in anything. I am a teacher, and I have to maintain a certain level of demeanor in a public forum such as this. I was asked in this thread - I simply answered straight on this thread too.

Tell you what, I don't use PM unless someone sends me a message using that feature first.

Mayabang? If that's how you take it, wala akong pakialam. At least ako, may mukha akong iharap kung sino ako. Hindi ko alam kung kaya mo ring gawin iyan. Imaginations? Maybe to you, yes. But I am of the strong belief that I DID NOT offend anyone.

[intensity1214]

anu-ano 'yung mga 20 schools na nag-qualify? thanks. :)

[halikinu_rahrah]

Originally posted by Ultra_MegaStar
^ ^ citycass, LBS, gerry_lim, etc., etc. ^ ^

What are your credentials?

1. Rejected from Ateneo
2. Accepted in UP
3. Allegedly studied "English for Foreign Students" in Warwick U (whatever that is)
4.
5.
6.
7.

Please feel free to add. We are willing to be impressed. :lol:

"Mr UP the best in the whole universe" .... reincarnated for the nth time! :lol:

Let's start the countdown to his being banned in PEx. :lol:

1....2.....3....4....5.....6....... .. .. ... ..

:lol:
alalay 'yan ni Dion Warwick.

[Hulk]

Originally posted by intensity1214
anu-ano 'yung mga 20 schools na nag-qualify? thanks. :)

Ateneo de Manila
Ateneo de Zamboanga
Central Luzon State University
Central Philippine University - Iloilo
De La Salle - Dasmarinas
De La Salle - Lipa
De La Salle - Manila
Far Eastern University
Holy Angel University
Manuel S. Enverga University
MSU - Iligan Institute of Technology
Pasig Catholic College
University of the East - Caloocan
University of the Philippines - Cebu
University of the Philippines - Diliman
University of San Carlos - Cebu
University of San Jose Recoletos - Cebu
University of Sto. Tomas
University of St. La Salle - Bacolod
Xavier University - Cagayan de Oro


:frank:

[ErwinRafael]

ngayon na ang finals.

good luck sa ating lahat. may the best school win. :)

[camerlengo]

any updates

[camerlengo]

guess UP DILIMAN won
3 times champion
and i heard
it was a runaway...

[cHaSeR]

1st - UP Diliman
2nd - UST
3rd - AdMU
4th - MS Enverga University
5th - DLSU-Manila

Sigh...Too bad La Salle wasn't able to make a grand slam this year. It's obvious that the other schools had come into this competition more prepared than La Salle.

So I guess UP-D is finally going to bring home the wooden trophy for having won the competition three times already.

Congratulations to UST for making 1st runner-up. I was just wondering, does UST have a Finance course? Kudos to Enverga as well for making it to the Top 5.

[tyanak_me]

Hehe...

I ran out of our meeting to look at this thread. Our bosses (mostly from Lasalle) are also curious. Looks like mac_bolan00 is going to do more strutting around our office.

Congratulations to the other teams by the way. I think it could have gone any way.

[yellowRanger]

kudos ust! you took as ll by surprise!

[XetraDAX]

Congrats UP!

[ROYAL-blood]

Originally posted by yellowRanger
kudos ust! you took as ll by surprise!
Why?
you sounded like UST never won any competition other than cheering......... :lol:


nakakapagod na talaga mag congrtas sa UP o mga taga UP......... sa lahat nalang ng bagay champion ang UP!!!!!


pwede ba next time wag naman champion? Give others a chance..


UP! UP! UP! UP! UP! UP! UP! UP! UP! UP! UP!

[yellowRanger]

ah oo nga kaya ngayon lang ulit kayo nanalo after such a long time di ba lasalle ang nananlo sa finex.

you sounded as if we even want o congratulate your squad and I hate to burst your ego naka tsamba lang ho kayo kung alam mo lang!:lol"

kawa wa ka naman hangang ngayon umiiyajk ka parin sa napaka pangit na performance ng PEP ssquad nyo ayun sa dinami dami ng peress release before the cheering competition OLATS! Paruin!

get over it sore loser!

hay royal-blood BADING! BAKLA ! ***!

[tyanak_me]

So go tumble head over heels all you want. Your brain's useless after all. Konting practice pa sa finance. Baka hindi lang second place and matsambahan nyo! :rotflmao:

[ROYAL-blood]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek
Excuse me, I will not engage you in anything. I am a teacher, and I have to maintain a certain level of demeanor in a public forum such as this. I was asked in this thread - I simply answered straight on this thread too.

Tell you what, I don't use PM unless someone sends me a message using that feature first.

Mayabang? If that's how you take it, wala akong pakialam. At least ako, may mukha akong iharap kung sino ako. Hindi ko alam kung kaya mo ring gawin iyan. Imaginations? Maybe to you, yes. But I am of the strong belief that I DID NOT offend anyone.

You won't engage with me in anything? :eek: Excuse me too but what was the need to quote my post for if you never had wanted to engage with me in the first place, hu!

So, you are now a teacher lek-lek? How petrifying that fuc&*(n news is. That is quite alarming, frightening, terrifying and upsetting report! You have always been known as a very mayabang pexer and here you are so proud to flaunt your current undertaking.......... Tell you frankly, your news is one BIG Sh!t, for all you care. Sa ubod mo ng yabang hayop k@, i'm sure you would be breeding your students the wrong way! Kawawang mga atenistang mga musmus na mga yon….. I'm sure sila yung papalit sa tronong kinalalagyan nyo ngayon. But looking back, okay lang if you keep on breeding airheads......... at least, the UP and La Salle people have always valid reasons to ridicule ateneans. Hahaha :lol:

Bawasan nyo yabang nyo at baka next time, maawa ang mga taga UP at La Salle and they might be more than willing to let you taste a victory once in a while. I know you’ve always wanted to smack a bit of it, don’t you?


Mabuhay ang UP!
The tunay champion. Ginagaya pati sa sayaw. :lol:





Tell you what, I don't use PM unless someone sends me a message using that feature first.

nagpapawata ka...........

[ROYAL-blood]

Originally posted by yellowRanger


get over it sore loser!

hay royal-blood BADING! BAKLA ! ***!

for all i know you've always wanted to have a piece of me. :bleh:

[ErwinRafael]

wag na kayong magtalo. very convincing win talaga ang UP. 84% ng questions nasagot nila.

congrats to everybody who participated in this year's ICFC. it's also very good to see the provincial schools doing really well.

FEU maintained its position from 7th place last year. I wish we could have done better, but at least we proved that our entry into the Top 10 last year was not a fluke. I guess we have to prepare better (and much much earlier) for next year's contest, lalo na kung meron na talagang international participants.

It was my first time to head the coaching job for an ICFC team. It was intimidating to see my former teachers coaching the UP Diliman squad. I hope that, in a way, I would make my former teachers proud by doing good in the competition.

Until next year!!! And please stop the school bashing.

[alikishi]

Originally posted by Hulk
I will try to send your constructive suggestions to them.

In the finals, I am expecting an exciting match-up between UP-Diliman and a resurgent DLSU-Taft. Whoever wins between the two, gets to finally take the trophy home. However I expect a lot of darkhorses this time. A lot of schools have picked up experience during the past few years that will enable them to compete for the top prize. I expect UP-Visayas and USLS to challenge.


:frank:

it looks like the match-up between UP-Diliman and the "resurgent" DLSU-Manila didn't happen.

[Cyberspace_law]

kudos UP diliman for winning, kudos also to my school UST for bagging the 1st runner up

[voltaire_mad]

Congratulations to the winners. Congrats to UP for winning 1st place. Congrats to UST for the 2nd place. I hope you help get our country out from its fiscal crisis. He he he.

[Tomasaiyan]

Originally posted by cHaSeR
1st - UP Diliman
2nd - UST
3rd - AdMU
4th - MS Enverga University
5th - DLSU-Manila


Congratulations to UST for making 1st runner-up. I was just wondering, does UST have a Finance course? Kudos to Enverga as well for making it to the Top 5.

Ho-hum. Congrats to the winning schools.

[Introvert_S]

Congratulations to all the winners!

[huntfan]

Congratulations to UP Diliman for winning the competition!

Congratulations also to all the teams who made it to the finals.

[camerlengo]

what are the scores

[Hulk]

Originally posted by alikishi
it looks like the match-up between UP-Diliman and the "resurgent" DLSU-Manila didn't happen.

Yep, it didn't. I should have realized that DLSU's performance in the UAAP and the ICFC are perfectly inversely related!:lol:

I also didn't anticipate that UP had a freakin', mutant super-team this year. I've heard that even the UP faculty was afraid to go up with them in head-to-head competition! :lol:

If what I've heard is right, some members of the team would receive some very valuable "prizes" from certain interested parties aside from the fact that they could start naming their compensation packages after graduation.

Congratulations to UP! You make me proud to be a UPian and a UPJPian! *okay*

ErwinRafael Don't you think that it's time that you tweaked FEU's curriculum towards the CFA standard. I spoke to your participants last night and they said that they weren't prepared for some of the topics, specifically asset valuation. By making the changes in curriculum it would not only prepare you earlier, but it would also enable you to field a sustainable, powerhouse team.


:frank:

[Lek-Lek]

Hulk: Sabi ko sa 'yo eh. Haha. We may not have Finance or Accounting majors, but we'll give it a good fight. I believe you've asked them what programs they're enrolled in, right?

For now, I'm happy with the fact that only two schools have managed to place consistently in the Top 3 of the ICFC: AdMU and UP-Diliman. :D

Oh, by the way, one of our contestants asked us to tell you that they got the answer right on one of the accounting questions not because of chamba. :D I think she showed you her solutions on that?

Sige, congrats to UP and UST for now! See you all next year!

[Hulk]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek
Hulk: Sabi ko sa 'yo eh. Haha. We may not have Finance or Accounting majors, but we'll give it a good fight. I believe you've asked them what programs they're enrolled in, right?

For now, I'm happy with the fact that only two schools have managed to place consistently in the Top 3 of the ICFC: AdMU and UP-Diliman. :D

Oh, by the way, one of our contestants asked us to tell you that they got the answer right on one of the accounting questions not because of chamba. :D I think she showed you her solutions on that?

Sige, congrats to UP and UST for now! See you all next year!

Nice meeting you dude! *okay*

Yes I did ask kasi it was apparent on who was the resident expert on a given subject.

Hey hindi ako yung nag-ask kung "chamba," si Edwin Fernandez yun! :lol: Pero bilib ako dun sa nakuha nila yung arbitrage question given 3 financial markets, that was one tough question! *okay*


:frank:

[Lek-Lek]

Oh, I didn't know. Si Edwin pala yun. :D

You're right, UP-D sent a freakin' powerhouse team this year. That's something we'll have to match next year. But since our curriculum is really not that finance or accounting-oriented, we'll probably make it up na lang through a more rigorous training program, hopefully with the help of some ADMU alums who are also CFAs. Even before the finals yesterday, we've been scouting for who to include in our roster for next year. :)

[intensity1214]

ang galing ng USTe!!! GO GO GO!!!

ano ba prizes ngayon? 'di ba 'yung top 5 teams eh may parang gagawin sila?

congrats din sa ibang winners. :)

[Hulk]

By the way, I pitched the idea of a fill-in-the blank type questions to the question-writers. I don't know if there would be changes next year though. I believe the case presentation method would be years away if it ever gets adopted, although if there was ever an ICFC for grad schools then it should be the format for the finals just like the L'Oreal competition.

But hey, you've got your wish, the competition would soon go international!

As for the rest of us judges, we've decided that it's more financially beneficial to act as consultants and judges to the other schools next year, especially the provincial ones. :lol:


:frank:

[Hulk]

Originally posted by intensity1214
ang galing ng USTe!!! GO GO GO!!!

ano ba prizes ngayon? 'di ba 'yung top 5 teams eh may parang gagawin sila?

congrats din sa ibang winners. :)

I think UP-Diliman got:
P1.2MM worth of MBA scholarships from AIM, P75,000 cash, software packages from Microsoft, the roving trophy, a replica of the roving trophy, a championship trophy, medals, several days stay in Puerto Azul, dozens of gift certifcates from various sponsors and bragging rights! That's aside from the scholarships for CFA Level 1 review in AIM for 5 people that they got from the Elims. Plus, several job offers from impressed FINEX members.

The top 6 teams get to attend the 3-day Citibank Junior Banker's Congress at the Makati Shangri-la.


:frank:

[tyanak_me]

One of our bosses here used to judge the contest. He's from Lasalle but he's surprised it took UP this long to bag the championship.

Correct me if i'm wrong but DLSU is the only back-to-back finex champion, right?

[dnx90]

Originally posted by camerlengo
what are the scores

UP-Dil - 840
UST - 600
Ateneo - 580
Enverga - 480?
DLSU - 460?
USC - ?

I'm not sure about the last 3 scores... maybe someone else can fill it in.

[Hulk]

Enverga scored 560, 1 question behind Ateneo


:frank:

[rabbaddal]

Originally posted by YFU'ER

What, no CBS? I can not believe that Rabbaddal has not tried to recruit you for his own alma mater.


I tried to dangle a set-up date with a pretty Fil-Am undergrad pero ayaw pa rin kunin.:lol:

What's it gonna take? Julia Stiles?:D

[camerlengo]

so who are coming back for the UPD team next season?

[Hulk]

Nobody is coming back for UP. FINEX rules state that participants can no longer join future competitions.


:frank:

[camerlengo]

thats a fair rule...

[Lek-Lek]

Originally posted by Hulk
By the way, I pitched the idea of a fill-in-the blank type questions to the question-writers. I don't know if there would be changes next year though. I believe the case presentation method would be years away if it ever gets adopted, although if there was ever an ICFC for grad schools then it should be the format for the finals just like the L'Oreal competition.

But hey, you've got your wish, the competition would soon go international!

:frank:

What about problem solving without choices? Meaning, clear and complete solutions should be presented.

Yeah, I look forward to seeing contestants from Chulalongkorn, Nanyang, NUS, University of Hong Kong, HKUST, etc. competing in the ICFC.

You mentioned the L'Oreal competition - that's something we're not willing to give easily to UP. Guess which Philippine school managed to make it to the Top 280 teams worldwide? ;)

You are a BAA graduate, diba? Maybe you can also ask UP CBA to join the Harvard Business Plan competition; it's a general management competition. The contest specifies that Philippine entries should come from undergrads. Those who will make the cut will fly to Boston for the finals. ADMU JGSOM is definitely sending in entries.

[Hulk]

Yeah that's what I told the question writer, no choices, but I don't know if they would heed it.

We have a homecoming in December so I could bring up the matter of the HBP competition. Sayang pala I wanted to join the L'Oreal comp last year pero wala akong mahatak na teammates, masyado kasing heavy yung program namin dahil 1 year lang.


:frank:

[Lek-Lek]

I hope they would. Kasi it really minimizes the "chamba" factor that Edwin Fernandez pointed out. :)

Oh, were you enrolled in a graduate program last year?

[YFU'ER]

Originally posted by rabbaddal
I tried to dangle a set-up date with a pretty Fil-Am undergrad pero ayaw pa rin kunin.:lol:

What's it gonna take? Julia Stiles?:D

Sobra naman kung Julia Stiles ang offer!

How about a final offer of personal introduction to a Pinay Sarah Lawrence co-ed from a politically connected family in Manila. Follow that up with a summer internship prior to grad school and after his first year with your IB firm. ;)

Kaso, that offer will pale in comparison if Victory wades in with his offer. A simple TA position for a Wharton under grad professor would be a no brainer. Bwahahaha, parang ganoon kadali! :D

[dnx90]

Originally posted by Hulk

I also didn't anticipate that UP had a freakin', mutant super-team this year.


:frank:

Talk about freakin talent! These kids practically could have sat down one whole round and still would have won the competition.

The UP crowd really went nuts during the fifth question of the last round... they knew that they had the trophy in the bag already.

CONGRATS AGAIN UP!

[alikishi]

now, where are the Lasallites?

[YFU'ER]

Originally posted by alikishi
now, where are the Lasallites?

They are all in Araneta .... . Di bale na!

I'm shocked that you'd stoop to the level of the bashers. :eek: Be magnanimous that your team finished ahead of theirs. Ain't revenge sweet. :D

In the end, only UP supporters can gloat because their team kicked @ss.

[archerguy]

Originally posted by alikishi
now, where are the Lasallites?

We're here reading and we humbly accept our loss. Satisfied now?

Congrats to UP!

[Bazooka_Joe]

Originally posted by archerguy
We're here reading and we humbly accept our loss. Satisfied now?

Congrats to UP!

nice.
:handsdown:

half(?)-lasallian here. :blowsmoke:

Congrats to UP and syempre to UST! minsan lang manalo sa finance competition ang USTe, e.
puro accounting major siguro ang pinadala ng Commerce ngayon.

[lighthaus]

Never-mind alikishi. At least he finally showed his TRUE COLOR. He is now a certified La Salle basher.

Funny thing is...why I am not surprised? ;)

CONGRATULATIONS UP!

And to La Salle..there's always next year. At least you're the only team to win Back to Back in the Finex.

[intensity1214]

Originally posted by Bazooka_Joe

Congrats to UP and syempre to UST! minsan lang manalo sa finance competition ang USTe, e.
puro accounting major siguro ang pinadala ng Commerce ngayon.

consistent naman ang UST sa top 4-5. simula na ang hataw ng UST niyan sigurado. :)

[pox]

Originally posted by tyanak_me
One of our bosses here used to judge the contest. He's from Lasalle but he's surprised it took UP this long to bag the championship.

Correct me if i'm wrong but DLSU is the only back-to-back finex champion, right?

tell your bosses that UP aslo won back-to-back championships in the first two years of finex, 1999 and 2000. then 2004...:rolleyes:

[huntfan]

Who were the past champions of FINEX?

[dnx90]

tell your bosses that UP aslo won back-to-back championships in the first two years of finex, 1999 and 2000. then 2004...:rolleyes: [/QUOTE]

actually lighthaus is right.... only dlsu has had back to back championships

1999: UP
2000: Ateneo
2001: UP
2002: DLSU
2003: DLSU
2004: UP

although UP was first to bag the replica trophy, I don't think UP or any of the other schools will prepare anyless for the next FINEX comps. expect a dog fight next year... but hopefully UP will have a repeat of its dominating performance again. :D

[tyanak_me]

So I was right, UP is not a back-to-back champion. :rolleyes:

[n3X]

Who represented UP pala?

[dnx90]

^^^

Andie Antonino
Grace Dumalaog
Ryan Lim
Judie Montegrico
Myrose Victor

All BAA students..... I heard that they were all already offered jobs by citibank; while they were attending the Junior Bankers congress.

[alikishi]

Originally posted by lighthaus
Never-mind alikishi. At least he finally showed his TRUE COLOR. He is now a certified La Salle basher.

Funny thing is...why I am not surprised? ;)

CONGRATULATIONS UP!

And to La Salle..there's always next year. At least you're the only team to win Back to Back in the Finex.

me? a lasalle basher? hahaha sige lang :) sabi mo eh. :bow:

[slasherette_19]

Originally posted by Bazooka_Joe
nice.
:handsdown:

half(?)-lasallian here. :blowsmoke:

Congrats to UP and syempre to UST! minsan lang manalo sa finance competition ang USTe, e.
puro accounting major siguro ang pinadala ng Commerce ngayon.

yup...3 from accounting..1 from business administration...and 1 from economics..sabi ng prof namin..

congrats to ust!:)

[kundera_tan]

Originally posted by tyanak_me
So I was right, UP is not a back-to-back champion. :rolleyes:

UP GOT THREE FINEX TROPHIES.
LA SALLE GOT TWO:D

[ROYAL-blood]

Originally posted by kundera_tan
UP GOT THREE FINEX TROPHIES.
LA SALLE GOT TWO:D
what about your alma mater UST? :lol:

[ROYAL-blood]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek
What about problem solving without choices? Meaning, clear and complete solutions should be presented.

Yeah, I look forward to seeing contestants from Chulalongkorn, Nanyang, NUS, University of Hong Kong, HKUST, etc. competing in the ICFC.

You mentioned the L'Oreal competition - that's something we're not willing to give easily to UP. Guess which Philippine school managed to make it to the Top 280 teams worldwide? ;)

You are a BAA graduate, diba? Maybe you can also ask UP CBA to join the Harvard Business Plan competition; it's a general management competition. The contest specifies that Philippine entries should come from undergrads. Those who will make the cut will fly to Boston for the finals. ADMU JGSOM is definitely sending in entries.

ubod ka talaga ng yabang lek-lek. Teacher ka ba talaga?
Nangarap ka pang kalabanin ang NUS, UHK at HKUST? Ang lakas ng luob mo mayabang ka. sa Pinas nga panis na panis ang team mo, NUS o UHK pa kaya? :lol: ang hilig mo sa daydreaming teacher.....

at ang laki mo namang t-a-n-g-a gawing excuse "my dear school does not have a finance and accountancy courses ek-ek...!" Hayop! champion ka talaga sa katangahan teacher... excuse ba yan? nak ng puts, kung wala kayong finance and accounting subject, wag kayong mag join, as simple as that! Palusot ka pa, halata ng talonan ka! tinalo pa kayo ng UST. bwahahaha... :lol: :lol: :lol:

[intensity1214]

i agree with ROYAL-blood this time. bakit may excuse na "my dear school does not have a finance and accountancy courses" kapag natatalo. eh, 'di 'wag na lang sumali, 'di ba? :shrug:

dapat tanggapin kasi na talo, as in TALO na. bawi na lang next year. :)

[alikishi]

Originally posted by ROYAL-blood
ubod ka talaga ng yabang lek-lek. Teacher ka ba talaga?
Nangarap ka pang kalabanin ang NUS, UHK at HKUST? Ang lakas ng luob mo mayabang ka. sa Pinas nga panis na panis ang team mo, NUS o UHK pa kaya? :lol: ang hilig mo sa daydreaming teacher.....

at ang laki mo namang t-a-n-g-a gawing excuse "my dear school does not have a finance and accountancy courses ek-ek...!" Hayop! champion ka talaga sa katangahan teacher... excuse ba yan? nak ng puts, kung wala kayong finance and accounting subject, wag kayong mag join, as simple as that! Palusot ka pa, halata ng talonan ka! tinalo pa kayo ng UST. bwahahaha... :lol: :lol: :lol:

san ka ba galing? kakasakay mo palang ba ng Light Rail Transit? :)

the reason why we still join these kinds of competition is to benchmark our students with other "supposedly" better schools in finance and accounting.

I can honestly think that if our students have undergone the same number of units for accounting, finance and economics most probably, they'll be doing a lot better than this.

We do not have any regrets with the way we design our courses. I think our alumni are proof and testament to its effectivity. It's just that winning these kinds of contests are just pluses to our name.

[n3X]

Originally posted by dnx90
^^^

Andie Antonino
Grace Dumalaog
Ryan Lim
Judie Montegrico
Myrose Victor

All BAA students..... I heard that they were all already offered jobs by citibank; while they were attending the Junior Bankers congress.

Terminals? hokei.

[Lek-Lek]

Why we still join? Simple, we're promoting the Gokongwei School of Management brand. Yes, we don't have finance or accounting programs, but take note - amidst all the competition, there are only two schools that can brag about consistent Top 3 performance in the ICFC: AdMU and UP-D. Nobody, not even you, can take that honor away from us. Yes, we managed to do that, without Finance or Accountancy programs! Aside from UP, can other schools do that?

You don't believe me? Ask your fellow UPian (taga-UP ka naman diba, at least according to your allegations) Hulk; he served as judge last Wednesday, and we had a little chat during the contest.

[Fortune]

ano talo DLSU
di ba DLSU pinakamagaling dito

di bale mas kilala naman DLSU sa BASKETBALL
dun na lang manalo bukas

[muchomuchacho]

please excuse self confessed transvestite ROYAL-blood aka. TRANSVESTITE aka. TANAKA aka. MBAwannabe aka. charlie_g aka. jason_s for his delusions. he is only sourgraping about ateneo because his beloved UP and warwick did not make it to the l'oreal estrat magic circle. i'm sure he feels offended that ateneo students do better than a UK school that charges 10 times more in tuition. kawawa naman yung bata. :bigcry:

[Flyingmouse]

ust has never won?

either that is a fake list o nagkadayaan.

[Flyingmouse]

ahihihi.

[coup_plotter]

Congrats UP!

Unibersidad ng Pilipinas!!!

[voltaire_mad]

Originally posted by intensity1214
consistent naman ang UST sa top 4-5. simula na ang hataw ng UST niyan sigurado. :)

Sana. I hope the think tanks here can help bail out our country from its so called fiscal crisis. Kudos to the winners.

[alikishi]

Originally posted by voltaire_mad
Sana. I hope the think tanks here can help bail out our country from its so called fiscal crisis. Kudos to the winners.

coincidentally, that was the same topic of the speach of mr. bobby de ocampo. That was a nice speach

[intensity1214]

'yung mga sasaling schools next year, kapag natalo kayo gawa rin kayo ng excuse tulad ng: eh kasi 'di nakapag-aral nang mabuti 'yung team o kaya sabihin na lang na walang accounting/finance sa school ninyo kahit meron. tanggap naman 'yang mga excuse na 'yan eh.

[kundera_tan]

Originally posted by ROYAL-blood
what about your alma mater UST? :lol:

di mo ba talaga ako titigilan!!!!!??

di ako tga-UST. pero di ko inaaway ang ust.

guto me meet tayo at isaksak ko sa baga mo ang lahat lahat ng form 5 (di mo lam ang form 5?) ko? isama narin natin ang lahat ng changemat at prerrog form. gusto mo makita mga classcard ko? eh ang ID ko? suntukan na rin tayo para matigil na rin ang kababawan mo, gusto mo? baka naman magtago ka pa sa likod ng mga bro mo niyan. kung may frat ka man? o baka soro?

seriously, i'm a 4th year UPSE student graduating this april (i'm more than sure of that) ikaw kaya?
so pwede ba tigilan mo na ako??????????

*********
sorry kung off topic. di ko lang talaga mapigilan. haaay. sana kasi di muna tumaggap ng bagong account and Pex. para maiwasan ang paglaganap ng mga walang kwentang alternicks.

[ROYAL-blood]

Originally posted by kundera_tan
di mo ba talaga ako titigilan!!!!!??

di ako tga-UST. pero di ko inaaway ang ust.

guto me meet tayo at isaksak ko sa baga mo ang lahat lahat ng form 5 (di mo lam ang form 5?) ko? isama narin natin ang lahat ng changemat at prerrog form. gusto mo makita mga classcard ko? eh ang ID ko? suntukan na rin tayo para matigil na rin ang kababawan mo, gusto mo? baka naman magtago ka pa sa likod ng mga bro mo niyan. kung may frat ka man? o baka soro?

seriously, i'm a 4th year UPSE student graduating this april (i'm more than sure of that) ikaw kaya?
so pwede ba tigilan mo na ako??????????

*********
sorry kung off topic. di ko lang talaga mapigilan. haaay. sana kasi di muna tumaggap ng bagong account and Pex. para maiwasan ang paglaganap ng mga walang kwentang alternicks.
Thomas

You hypocrite tripple-X-chromosome thomasian..... :lol:

[ROYAL-blood]

Originally posted by kundera_tan
di mo ba talaga ako titigilan!!!!!??

di ako tga-UST. pero di ko inaaway ang ust.

guto me meet tayo at isaksak ko sa baga mo ang lahat lahat ng form 5 (di mo lam ang form 5?) ko? isama narin natin ang lahat ng changemat at prerrog form. gusto mo makita mga classcard ko? eh ang ID ko? suntukan na rin tayo para matigil na rin ang kababawan mo, gusto mo? baka naman magtago ka pa sa likod ng mga bro mo niyan. kung may frat ka man? o baka soro?

seriously, i'm a 4th year UPSE student graduating this april (i'm more than sure of that) ikaw kaya?
so pwede ba tigilan mo na ako??????????

*********
sorry kung off topic. di ko lang talaga mapigilan. haaay. sana kasi di muna tumaggap ng bagong account and Pex. para maiwasan ang paglaganap ng mga walang kwentang alternicks.

sa kakatambay at kakasilip mo sa peyups.com, naaral mo yang form 5, bluebook, new look na classcards, fraternities at ang fahvhorates mong sororoty pati na ang mga hilig ng UPians.

Bilib din ako sayo talagang ni-research mo ang UP ng tudo. pati instructors and profs ng UPSE nimemorize mo. :lol: ano bang nangyari sayo at ginagawa mo yan, Thomas? Loyalty!!!!!!!!! :D

[kundera_tan]

^ meet tayo ngayon na.

nasa Alva ako. sa 2nd floor ng citi mall sa may philcoa.

i'm surprised di ka pa rin banned.

[ROYAL-blood]

Originally posted by alikishi
the reason why we still join these kinds of competition is to benchmark our students with other "supposedly" better schools in finance and accounting.

So, you do believe that UP is "supposedly" better than Ateneo? Why? Just because UP offers accountancy programme should it be "supposedly" a better school? Perhaps, but you disregarded the fact that UP has better students and faculty or mentors -- very, very “fit” than Lek-Lek - that very mayabang-ayaw-magpatalo-maski-talo-na-PEXER. In fact, almost all that are matriculated in Ateneo are UPCAT rejects. I hope you won't consider this claim as bashing because this is just a plain fact.

[ROYAL-blood]

Originally posted by kundera_tan
^ meet tayo ngayon na.

nasa Alva ako. sa 2nd floor ng citi mall sa may philcoa.

i'm surprised di ka pa rin banned.
why should i be banned? is it a crime to expose it that you're a thomasian pretending to be a male species este a straight UPian? :lol:

You are but Thomas, a thomasian sicko! why won't you just pretend to be an Atenean so i would leave you alone hiding under a blue cloak? do we have a deal?

[kundera_tan]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ROYAL-blood
why should i be banned? is it a crime to expose it that you're a thomasian pretending to be a male species este a straight UPian? :lol:

You are but Thomas, a thomasian sicko! why won't you just pretend to be an Atenean so i would leave you alone hiding under a blue cloak? do we have a deal? [/QUOUTE


you are calling me a sicko, my, my, why am i not surpirised?
boy and girls- that is known as projection.....

:)

if Thomas wouldn't comment anything about this, then I have to assume you are him. He is you. you are one and the same.....

i tell you, i haven't given up the thought of meeting you and swiping my UP ID on your (nightmarish?) face.

[ROYAL-blood]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek
Why we still join? Simple, we're promoting the Gokongwei School of Management brand. Yes, we don't have finance or accounting programs, but take note - amidst all the competition, there are only two schools that can brag about consistent Top 3 performance in the ICFC: AdMU and UP-D. Nobody, not even you, can take that honor away from us. Yes, we managed to do that, without Finance or Accountancy programs! Aside from UP, can other schools do that?

You don't believe me? Ask your fellow UPian (taga-UP ka naman diba, at least according to your allegations) Hulk; he served as judge last Wednesday, and we had a little chat during the contest.

I do understand your Ateneo Gokongwei needs promotions but when you do promotions you don't swank! Please review your marketing notes teacher lek-lek. You do promotions with a slogan: "our team placed 3rd despite the absence of BS in Finance and Accountancy programmes"? That’s absolutely a weird catchphrase, dude, and the funny thing is, that’s exactly the way you do.

The truth is, you were not actually promoting, not and never at all. Kunyare ka pang nag-congratulate sa winners (UP and La Salle, UST) but then may singit ka rin, “we don’t have accountancy and finance courses” ek-ek... So, what do you mean to say? That if only that Ateneo has a BS in Accountancy programme and a BS in Finance programme, UP would lose to Ateneo?????????? Just for that mere reason? Ang babaw mo! Kung talo ka, talo ka! At huwag kanang magpapalusot pa. At, kung totoong teacher ka, huwag kang mayabang!!!!!!! Nakakatakot ang style mo kasi your egotism can influence your students the wrong and diabolic way. My point here is, accept defeat and learn from it. Nakakahiya ka if you don’t know this simple value, teacher ka pa naman…… or nag teacher ka nalang dyan sa Ateneo kasi you’re Jesuit education could not give you a high-paying job in the corporate world. Mayabang ka kasi kaya the realities do spank your dreams all the time. Magtiis kang tumangap ng 20k per month salary. :lol:

BTW, meron bang BS in Finance sa UP Diliman?

[ROYAL-blood]

Originally posted by kundera_tan
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ROYAL-blood
why should i be banned? is it a crime to expose it that you're a thomasian pretending to be a male species este a straight UPian? :lol:

You are but Thomas, a thomasian sicko! why won't you just pretend to be an Atenean so i would leave you alone hiding under a blue cloak? do we have a deal? [/QUOUTE]


you are calling me a sicko, my, my, why am i not surpirised?
boy and girls- that is known as projection.....

:)

if Thomas wouldn't comment anything about this, then I have to assume you are him. He is you. you are one and the same.....

i tell you, i haven't given up the thought of meeting you and swiping my UP ID on your (nightmarish?) face.

:lol: :lol: :lol:



give it up, Thomas. You're getting comical...... hahahahaha....

[Lek-Lek]

Precisely I was pointing out a marketing issue for a business school! I was hoping you can get the issue which should somehow follow the line: "Here is a b-school which does not offer accountancy/finance programs yet managed to place consistently in the Top 3 of the ICFC". That should speak of the quality of training given to students.

Hindi mo ba nakukuha? It's analogous to a one-legged runner who made it to the medal standings of the marathon. :)

And just in case you want me to reiterate a concept in finance, we're going for minimal variance in our ICFC performance. And so far, only two teams, I repeat, managed to consistently place in the Top 3: UP-D and AdMU.

Don't worry, I have reviewed my marketing notes well. The JGSOM particularly takes pride in its marketing thrust, kaya nga we placed first in the Asian Strategic Marketing Case Defense Contest e. I believe UP-D was among the finalists. :)

Our students informed me that they developed good working relationships with the contestants of UP-D during the Citibank Young Bankers' Congress, and the class, style and panache that they have shown really amazed me. Same goes to UPian Hulk. Makes me wonder if your alleged fellow UPians will be equally proud of you, given your actuations here.

[alikishi]

So, you do believe that UP is "supposedly" better than Ateneo? Why? Just because UP offers accountancy programme should it be "supposedly" a better school? Perhaps, but you disregarded the fact that UP has better students and faculty or mentors -- very, very “fit” than Lek-Lek - that very mayabang-ayaw-magpatalo-maski-talo-na-PEXER. In fact, almost all that are matriculated in Ateneo are UPCAT rejects. I hope you won't consider this claim as bashing because this is just a plain fact.

it is either you're UPian that is in the lowest IQ bracket or you're not a UPian at all. When I said "better" schools, I meant schools which has programs that are vert much aligned on the topics covered by the Finex ICFC (specially BAA of UP).

Now, on your claim that almost all that are matriculated in Ateneo are UP rejects...

When 20% of incoming freshmen students are valedictorians, salutatorians and honorable mention awardees during their high school (top 5) go to the Ateneo, do you think they didn't pass UPCAT? hahaha

[Lek-Lek]

Just to add, you know it's not so much on winning the championship of individual competitions per se. It's how a school performed in a series of competitions during a given school year. At the JGSOM, we analyze our performances in several academic contests and benchmark ourselves against our perceived competitors, i.e., UP CBA and DLSU CBE.

So far, this year, here's a summary of academic competitions that UP, AdMU and DLSU joined.


UP CBA
FINEX ICFC - Champion
PMA Case Defense Competition - Regional Winner and One of the 6 finalists

AdMU JGSOM
FINEX ICFC - 2nd runner-up
PMA Case Defense Competition - Regional Winner and Overall Champion

DLSU CBE
FINEX ICFC - 4th runner-up
PMA Case Defense Competition - Regional Winner, Non-finalist


Upcoming Competitions: 5th PANA Integrated Marketing Communications Competition and the L'Oreal E-strat Challenge.


If you want, I can also make a similar summary of last year's academic competitions for you - the very same information we include in our campaign materials and annual report. :)

[intensity1214]

lek-lek, true, your school can still manage to be part of the top 3 even without accountancy/finance programs in your school, but the pexers are just worried about your conditioning them that if ever ateneo misses the top 3 in the future, the same excuse stays, and that is, uhm, very atenean. :)

[Flyingmouse]

hindi pa pala nananalo ang ust.

kawawa naman.

[tyanak_me]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek
Just to add, you know it's not so much on winning the championship of individual competitions per se. It's how a school performed in a series of competitions during a given school year. At the JGSOM, we analyze our performances in several academic contests and benchmark ourselves against our perceived competitors, i.e., UP CBA and DLSU CBE.

So far, this year, here's a summary of academic competitions that UP, AdMU and DLSU joined.


UP CBA
FINEX ICFC - Champion
PMA Case Defense Competition - Regional Winner and One of the 6 finalists

AdMU JGSOM
FINEX ICFC - 2nd runner-up
PMA Case Defense Competition - Regional Winner and Overall Champion

DLSU CBE
FINEX ICFC - 4th runner-up
PMA Case Defense Competition - Regional Winner, Non-finalist


Upcoming Competitions: 5th PANA Integrated Marketing Communications Competition and the L'Oreal E-strat Challenge.


If you want, I can also make a similar summary of last year's academic competitions for you - the very same information we include in our campaign materials and annual report. :)
..unless my logic is hopeless. Consistent top performance in competitions means only one thing: That school likes to invest and prepare for competition.

It's a lot like investing millions for one's basketball team. :rolleyes:

[intensity1214]

scary noh?

no wonder education in the philippines is going down the drain.

[Flyingmouse]

wawa naman ust.

pero hindi kaya nagkadayaan lang?

[Lek-Lek]

Well, your interpretations are beyond my control. I can only present you with the clear perspective from which the JGSOM sees things. That is, if we are to promote the Gokongwei School of Management brand, much like the way Wharton, Kellogg, Harvard, Stanford, Sloan, Columbia, Chicago, Fuqua, Darden and Haas did, we'll have to make noise that is audible to the business community. And this is nothing more than a strategic implementation of our long-term goals. Kaya nga management, diba? Plain and simple as that.

intensity1214: We'll get to that point if and when AdMU JGSOM indeed misses the Top 3 of the ICFC. For now, we are indeed very happy about the way we have been doing these past years. Take note, we're not sourgraping - and we congratulate UP-D and UST for being the better teams this year - but we are really satisfied with our consistent Top 3 performance. Let's just settle with the unadulterated facts for now - wala munang what if ganyan, what if ganito scenarios. :)

[alikishi]

eh hanggang what-if ganito, what-if ganyan lang naman ang iba diyan eh

[halikinu_rahrah]

Originally posted by ROYAL-blood
[]ubod ka talaga ng yabang lek-lek. Teacher ka ba talaga?
Nangarap ka pang kalabanin ang NUS, UHK at HKUST? Ang lakas ng luob [/ mo mayabang ka. sa Pinas nga panis na panis ang team mo, NUS o UHK pa kaya? :lol: ang hilig mo sa daydreaming teacher.....

at ang laki mo namang t-a-n-g-a gawing excuse "my dear school does not have a finance and accountancy courses ek-ek...!" Hayop! [/ champion ka talaga sa katangahan teacher... excuse ba yan? nak ng puts, kung wala kayong finance and accounting subject, wag kayong mag join, as simple as that! Palusot ka pa, halata ng talonan [/ ka! tinalo pa kayo ng UST. bwahahaha... :lol: :lol: :lol: ]



hahahahaha. i was right! UP - Diliman ang sikat sa mga taga province!!!! yehey!!!

[intensity1214]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek
intensity1214: We'll get to that point if and when AdMU JGSOM indeed misses the Top 3 of the ICFC. For now, we are indeed very happy about the way we have been doing these past years. Take note, we're not sourgraping - and we congratulate UP-D and UST for being the better teams this year - but we are really satisfied with our consistent Top 3 performance. Let's just settle with the unadulterated facts for now - wala munang what if ganyan, what if ganito scenarios. :)

but lek-lek, you have already adulterated the facts by the mere mention of your not having accountancy and finance programs. i tell you, this will be the war whoop of your fellow atenistas if you miss the top 3. :)

[alikishi]

Originally posted by intensity1214
but lek-lek, you have already adulterated the facts by the mere mention of your not having accountancy and finance programs. i tell you, this will be the war whoop of your fellow atenistas if you miss the top 3. :)

did you ever try to visit www.ateneo.edu/som and look at the 6 programs offered by the John Gokongwei School of Management? As far as I know, these are the following:

BS Management Engineering
BS Management major in Legal Management
BS Management - Honors Program
BS Management - Standard Program
BS Management major in Communications Technology Management
BS Management of Applied Chemistry

These are the facts and I think Lek-Lek didn't change/distort any fact/s. hmmm...

[alikishi]

Originally posted by tyanak_me
..unless my logic is hopeless. Consistent top performance in competitions means only one thing: That school likes to invest and prepare for competition.

It's a lot like investing millions for one's basketball team. :rolleyes:

Well, I guess we are all guilty of this. I heard that UP started their training last year pa (2nd semester) by offering a CFA-related elective specifically to prepare students for the finex contest.

[intensity1214]

Originally posted by alikishi
did you ever try to visit www.ateneo.edu/som and look at the 6 programs offered by the John Gokongwei School of Management? As far as I know, these are the following:

BS Management Engineering
BS Management major in Legal Management
BS Management - Honors Program
BS Management - Standard Program
BS Management major in Communications Technology Management
BS Management of Applied Chemistry

These are the facts and I think Lek-Lek didn't change/distort any fact/s. hmmm...

i said adulterated, not distorted. what the pexers are worried about is that lek-lek has already debauched the minds of your fellow atenistas who would surely whoop "no accountancy, no finance" for the future losses. :)

[Lek-Lek]

intensity1214: Don't worry - not having an accountancy program is not an excuse, but a constant reminder that we can perform consistently well. We'll keep that in mind for future ICFCs! But for now, yes, UP-D and UST were the better teams, but we aren't losers at all - we received one of the three winners' trophies. ;)

Going back to "adulterate" I believe the word means "impure, counterfeit, not genuine, corrupt". I don't think I adulterated any facts when I said AdMU does not have accountancy or finance programs. That's a plain, simple and unadulterated fact. :)

[alikishi]

Originally posted by intensity1214
i said adulterated, not distorted. what the pexers are worried about is that lek-lek has already debauched the minds of your fellow atenistas who would surely whoop "no accountancy, no finance" for the future losses. :)

i'd like to divert your attention to http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=adulterated

[Flyingmouse]

dude, thomasian lang yan. wag mo masyado pitpitin.

[dnx90]

Originally posted by alikishi
Well, I guess we are all guilty of this. I heard that UP started their training last year pa (2nd semester) by offering a CFA-related elective specifically to prepare students for the finex contest.

if I'm not mistaken UP just copied DLSU's style of preparing 1 year in advance.

[mac_bolan00]

^^
NANTUTSA!!!!

is the idea of preparing one year in advance patentable? :rolleyes:

[kundera_tan]

Originally posted by ROYAL-blood
I BTW, meron bang BS in Finance sa UP Diliman?

simpleng bagay di pa alam....:rolleyes: :D

haay. sino ngayon ang nagpapanggap......?:)

[Dennis21]

Originally posted by alikishi

When 20% of incoming freshmen students are valedictorians, salutatorians and honorable mention awardees during their high school (top 5) go to the Ateneo, do you think they didn't pass UPCAT? hahaha

is being a high school valedictorian an assurance of passing the UPCAT?
Our valedictorian at Hope Christian failed to get into UP Diliman when he applied for the BS in Chemical Engineering course so he went to Ateneo and majored BS Chemistry with Computer Engineering. I'm not saying Ateneo is not a high standard school but it is still more of a back-up school rather than the school of choice for the vales, salus and the rest of the top 10 in high standard high schools. You might even be surprised that a lot of high school valedictorians and salutatorians of Ateneo High School are enrolled in UP Diliman and Manila.


On Topic: Congratulations to all the winners especially to UP Diliman for being the FINEX champion for the 3rd time.

[YFU'ER]

Originally posted by ROYAL-blood
or nag teacher ka nalang dyan sa Ateneo kasi you’re Jesuit education could not give you a high-paying job in the corporate world. Mayabang ka kasi kaya the realities do spank your dreams all the time. Magtiis kang tumangap ng 20k per month salary. :lol:

BTW, meron bang BS in Finance sa UP Diliman?

Lek-lek,

See, you should not have given up uour job in IB to take a low paying job teaching in Ateneo. The last time my professor friends from both Ateneo and UP shared the individual pay scale of each school, Ateneo pays more for their instructors than UP given the same educational background and experience.

[alikishi]

Originally posted by Dennis21
is being a high school valedictorian an assurance of passing the UPCAT?
Our valedictorian at Hope Christian failed to get into UP Diliman when he applied for the BS in Chemical Engineering course so he went to Ateneo and majored BS Chemistry with Computer Engineering. I'm not saying Ateneo is not a high standard school but it is still more of a back-up school rather than the school of choice for the vales, salus and the rest of the top 10 in high standard high schools. You might even be surprised that a lot of high school valedictorians and salutatorians of Ateneo High School are enrolled in UP Diliman and Manila.


On Topic: Congratulations to all the winners especially to UP Diliman for being the FINEX champion for the 3rd time.

look who's generalizing? You cannot also say that based on one account (the valedictorian of Hope Christian High School). Even Lek-Lek turned down BAA in UP for Legal Management in Ateneo. I turned down IE for Management Engineering in Ateneo. A friend of mine who is an oblation scholar in UP chose Philosophy in Ateneo. A lot of my batchmates in ME who are even not in the top 20 of their respective high schools are also UPCAT passers.

When 20% of incoming freshmen students are valedictorians, salutatorians and honorable mention awardees during their high school (top 5) go to the Ateneo, do you think they didn't pass UPCAT?

All Im saying is that it is highly unlikely that students in the Top 5 of each high school not to pass UPCAT. This therefore makes my assumption to be likely true.

[alikishi]

Originally posted by YFU'ER
Lek-lek,

See, you should not have given up uour job in IB to take a low paying job teaching in Ateneo. The last time my professor friends from both Ateneo and UP shared the individual pay scale of each school, Ateneo pays more for their instructors than UP given the same educational background and experience.

I have always thought that UP pays more to their teachers (I dont know why). Sabi ko nga kay Lek-Lek eh tanggapin na yung offer ng Lehman Brothers sa kanya sa singapore eh.

[Introvert_S]

sadly, hindi. UP faculty is covered by the Salary standardization Law for government employees so let's say, ang salary ng isang instructor ay di nalalayo sa suweldo ng isang karaniwang empleyado ng city hall...

[intensity1214]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek

Going back to "adulterate" I believe the word means "impure, counterfeit, not genuine, corrupt". I don't think I adulterated any facts when I said AdMU does not have accountancy or finance programs. That's a plain, simple and unadulterated fact. :)

of course, that ateneo doesn't have accountancy and finance programs is a fact. true, that's an unadulterated fact, but a corrupted excuse in the future if ever ateneo misses the top 3. :)

[Lek-Lek]

Originally posted by intensity1214
of course, that ateneo doesn't have accountancy and finance programs is a fact. true, that's an unadulterated fact, but a corrupted excuse in the future if ever ateneo misses the top 3. :)

Again, that's something that wasn't explicitly stated here. :)

There was nothing in my posts that would have indicated what you were leaning to. If at all, we are happy with our performance notwithstanding the inherent limitations of our curriculum.

Well, let's see if AdMU misses the Top 3. ;)

[mac_bolan00]

I notice there's always a way to take the shine off every UP victory while, on the other paw, other schools are so good at explaining loses.

[ustTHEbest]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek
Well, your interpretations are beyond my control. I can only present you with the clear perspective from which the JGSOM sees things. That is, if we are to promote the Gokongwei School of Management brand, much like the way Wharton, Kellogg, Harvard, Stanford, Sloan, Columbia, Chicago, Fuqua, Darden and Haas did, we'll have to make noise that is audible to the business community. And this is nothing more than a strategic implementation of our long-term goals. Kaya nga management, diba? Plain and simple as that.

intensity1214: We'll get to that point if and when AdMU JGSOM indeed misses the Top 3 of the ICFC. For now, we are indeed very happy about the way we have been doing these past years. Take note, we're not sourgraping - and we congratulate UP-D and UST for being the better teams this year - but we are really satisfied with our consistent Top 3 performance. Let's just settle with the unadulterated facts for now - wala munang what if ganyan, what if ganito scenarios. :)


up&ust are the best. ateneo should just dream on.

[yellowRanger]

eto ang di ko kinakaya kung mag comment...name palang alam mo nang hinid taga uste gusto lang i drag yung name namin sa away...konting delikadesa naman dyan.

[kundera_tan]

Congartulations to the UP team.....

Sana next year ulit.... sasali kaya si sixtus (i forgot his last name)?
basta 4th year BAA student siya ngayon. hehe. crush ko kasi siya dati... claasmate ko dati sa Comm2.
*****
Hi to Royal-blood....:cool:

[coup_plotter]

Originally posted by Dennis21
is being a high school valedictorian an assurance of passing the UPCAT?
Our valedictorian at Hope Christian failed to get into UP Diliman when he applied for the BS in Chemical Engineering course so he went to Ateneo and majored BS Chemistry with Computer Engineering. I'm not saying Ateneo is not a high standard school but it is still more of a back-up school rather than the school of choice for the vales, salus and the rest of the top 10 in high standard high schools. You might even be surprised that a lot of high school valedictorians and salutatorians of Ateneo High School are enrolled in UP Diliman and Manila.


On Topic: Congratulations to all the winners especially to UP Diliman for being the FINEX champion for the 3rd time.

AS EXPECTED!!! Alot of Vales and Saluts of elite schools is MM enrolled in UP Diliman and Manila.

Here are the lists :

Miriam HS, Poveda, Ateneo, PhiSci, MaSci, CSA, Assumption HS, St. Scho - Mla and Mkna, Xavier, ICA, LSGH, DLSZ, UPIS, St. Benedict, Grace Christian HS etc...

GO UP!!!

[SurreyWiltshire]

and if they fail the UPCAT, they would go to the Ateneo! hahaha

[SurreyWiltshire]

Originally posted by intensity1214
i said adulterated, not distorted. what the pexers are worried about is that lek-lek has already debauched the minds of your fellow atenistas who would surely whoop "no accountancy, no finance" for the future losses. :)

:glee:

that's the problem with Ek-Ek aka tesseract aka jtwothree.
kung manalo sila, sasabihin kahit wala kaming Accountancy and finance course, we still manage to be in the Top 3.
kung talonan man, ganon din ang excuse!
:lol:

[SurreyWiltshire]

Congats to UP! congrats to UST for the chamba!
but i believe that UST's accountancy and financial management courses are stronger than Ateneo's sisiw ME. :D

[mandennis]

Originally posted by intensity1214
lek-lek, true, your school can still manage to be part of the top 3 even without accountancy/finance programs in your school, but the pexers are just worried about your conditioning them that if ever ateneo misses the top 3 in the future, the same excuse stays, and that is, uhm, very atenean. :)
on the other hand, can you come up with a good excuse just in case UP or DLSU misses the top 3 or 5 in future FINEX competitions?

[intensity1214]

the other teams are better and the "excuse" should stop there. :)

[Lek-Lek]

Originally posted by SurreyWiltshire
Congats to UP! congrats to UST for the chamba!
but i believe that UST's accountancy and financial management courses are stronger than Ateneo's sisiw ME. :D

If that's your assertion, then I'm not in a position to defend ME. I'll let alikishi, himself, an ME graduate and currently teaching one of the ME program's most feared subjects - Intermediate Operations Research.

[carlos]

UP won convincingly. Ateneo lost. Now, atenean 'titsers' are all over this forum...hell-bent on defending their school's loss to the Finex using the ages old 'we-don't-have-acctg-and-finance-courses-thats-why-it's-understandable-we-lost' crap of excuse. Ho-hum. Tsk, tsk. After La Salle's loss, alikishi got excited and wished to hear excuses from la sallites...but he failed...for lasallians were humble enough to accept defeat....Hence alikishi showed his true color. Ek ek aka tesseract kept on rubbing ...'ateneo and UP are the only schools to consistently place in the top 3...while continuously saying that 'we-don't-have-acctg and finance..'excuse. Tsk, tsk....forever silang nakiki ride-on to UP's glory....speaking as if they and UP are of the same level. Tsk tsk...
Seems like atenean 'titsers' don't have much to do in campus..so they have a lot of free time Pexing. tsk, tsk.

Poor atenean students.

[kapitangkiko]

Originally posted by intensity1214
the other teams are better and the "excuse" should stop there. :) *okay*

[intensity1214]

carlos, it's really painful to accept defeat. :D

the other teams are way better and the excuse should have just stopped there.

usually a problem makes tick when someone starts explaining the excuse. :D

[Lek-Lek]

Why do some people here seem to have missed the fact that AdMU is one of the three winners? :) Last I know, we got the 2nd runner-up trophy - and I don't suppose losers get trophies, no?

I have said it over and over again - we are perfectly happy with the way our team performed not only this year but during the previous editions of the ICFC. :)

[intensity1214]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek
Why do some people here seem to have missed the fact that AdMU is one of the three winners? :) Last I know, we got the 2nd runner-up trophy - and I don't suppose losers get trophies, no?

I have said it over and over again - we are perfectly happy with the way our team performed not only this year but during the previous editions of the ICFC. :)

lek, no offense, but there's no such thing as "perfectly happy" when you know that you could have done better. :)

[koichi777]

Originally posted by SurreyWiltshire
Congats to UP! congrats to UST for the chamba!
but i believe that UST's accountancy and financial management courses are stronger than Ateneo's sisiw ME. :D

in the first place, it is unfair for ME to be compared to such course. UST's accountancy and financial management focuses primarily in accountancy and finance (obviously) while ME is a general management course pattered to the Management Science Program of Sloan School of Management in MIT (focusing on quantitative and qualitative approach in decision making).

UST's Accountancy and Financial Management program trains students to be accountants and financial managers while ADMU's ME (including BMH, BM, CMT, MAC, LM) are geared towards general management (be it entrepreneurship or in corporations).

It is also unfair for ME to be compared to such as the ME program only accepts the top 10% of students who passed the ACET. If you wish, I can also present to you statistics of the composition of students in the freshmen, sophomores, juniors and seniors in terms of how many are valedictorians, salutatorians and honorable mentions from their respective high schools. Dun palang wala ka nang masabi ;)

[intensity1214]

Originally posted by koichi777
It is also unfair for ME to be compared to such as the ME program only accepts the top 10% of students who passed the ACET. If you wish, I can also present to you statistics of the composition of students in the freshmen, sophomores, juniors and seniors in terms of how many are valedictorians, salutatorians and honorable mentions from their respective high schools. Dun palang wala ka nang masabi ;)

and this 10% could only place 3rd in a competition.

[koichi777]

Originally posted by carlos
UP won convincingly. Ateneo lost. Now, atenean 'titsers' are all over this forum...hell-bent on defending their school's loss to the Finex using the ages old 'we-don't-have-acctg-and-finance-courses-thats-why-it's-understandable-we-lost' crap of excuse. Ho-hum. Tsk, tsk. After La Salle's loss, alikishi got excited and wished to hear excuses from la sallites...but he failed...for lasallians were humble enough to accept defeat....Hence alikishi showed his true color. Ek ek aka tesseract kept on rubbing ...'ateneo and UP are the only schools to consistently place in the top 3...while continuously saying that 'we-don't-have-acctg and finance..'excuse. Tsk, tsk....forever silang nakiki ride-on to UP's glory....speaking as if they and UP are of the same level. Tsk tsk...
Seems like atenean 'titsers' don't have much to do in campus..so they have a lot of free time Pexing. tsk, tsk.

Poor atenean students.

ouch... ang sakit mo naman magpatama. :bash:

oo na... hindi na kami magaling :(

[huntfan]

I encountered a similar FINEX competion thread in the other sites (archerpride.com). From there I found out the results of previous FINEX competition.

Year 1st Place 2nd Place 3rd Place 4th Place

1999 UP Diliman La Salle UA&P Assumption

2000 Ateneo UP Diliman La Salle UST

2001 UP Diliman La Salle Ateneo UST

2002 La Salle UP Diliman Ateneo UST

2003 La Salle Ateneo UP Diliman San Carlos

2004 UP Diliman UST Ateneo MSE University

So if the above is an accurate record of the results, then it is only the team from UP Diliman who has consistently placed in the top 3 of FINEX competition. Ateneo was not in the top 3 in 1999. :)

[camerlengo]

because there are no accounting and finance courses in admu....

bwa ha ha ha

[mandennis]

Originally posted by intensity1214
lek, no offense, but there's no such thing as "perfectly happy" when you know that you could have done better. :)
akala ko ba it should "stop" there and the arguments/excuses/explanations were given and enough is already said. now, what's your good excuse for becoming sutil?

[kapitangkiko]

mandennis, "stopping there" was the good excuse just in case UP or DLSU misses the top 3 or 5 in future FINEX competitions?. not the case here. and maybe if some people would just accept it and categorically state that the winning team this year is just WAY better...

[tammers]

there is no accountancy and finance in Ateneo that's why we always lost to UP, De La Salle and UST. :lol:

and to think two titsers of Ateneo pa ang nagpakalat nyan. ha ha ha.


lek-lek, mayabang na bading!

[mac_bolan00]

so what's the difference between one who was consistently in the top-3 to the one who, except for 2003, was consistently in the top-2?

i really notice that many PEXers suck at analyzing numbers. :rolleyes:

[tammers]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek
Just to add, you know it's not so much on winning the championship of individual competitions per se. It's how a school performed in a series of competitions during a given school year. At the JGSOM, we analyze our performances in several academic contests and benchmark ourselves against our perceived competitors, i.e., UP CBA and DLSU CBE.

So far, this year, here's a summary of academic competitions that UP, AdMU and DLSU joined.


UP CBA
FINEX ICFC - Champion
PMA Case Defense Competition - Regional Winner and One of the 6 finalists

AdMU JGSOM
FINEX ICFC - 2nd runner-up
PMA Case Defense Competition - Regional Winner and Overall Champion

DLSU CBE
FINEX ICFC - 4th runner-up
PMA Case Defense Competition - Regional Winner, Non-finalist


Upcoming Competitions: 5th PANA Integrated Marketing Communications Competition and the L'Oreal E-strat Challenge.


If you want, I can also make a similar summary of last year's academic competitions for you - the very same information we include in our campaign materials and annual report. :)

Pero baklang lek-lek, wala pong BS Marketing sa UP Diliman kaya dapat lang hangang 3rd place lang sila. :lol: :lol: :lol:


insecure na atenistang bakla! teacher pa man din. ha ha ha

[kapitangkiko]

i think huntfan's point was that, assuming the above tally were true, stating that amidst all the competition, there are only two schools that can brag about consistent Top 3 performance in the ICFC is inaccurate.

[tammers]

Originally posted by mac_bolan00

i really notice that many PEXers suck at analyzing numbers. :rolleyes:

si lek-lek at aticus lang yon. yung mga bading na titsers ng ateneo. mga pasaway sa lipunan. ha ha ha :lol:

[Lek-Lek]

Originally posted by huntfan
I encountered a similar FINEX competion thread in the other sites (archerpride.com). From there I found out the results of previous FINEX competition.

Year 1st Place 2nd Place 3rd Place 4th Place

1999 UP Diliman La Salle UA&P Assumption

2000 Ateneo UP Diliman La Salle UST

2001 UP Diliman La Salle Ateneo UST

2002 La Salle UP Diliman Ateneo UST

2003 La Salle Ateneo UP Diliman San Carlos

2004 UP Diliman UST Ateneo MSE University

So if the above is an accurate record of the results, then it is only the team from UP Diliman who has consistently placed in the top 3 of FINEX competition. Ateneo was not in the top 3 in 1999. :)

But you are assuming that Ateneo joined in 1999! :)

When I say consistently, it is pertinent, of course to assume that we joined those years we made it to the Top 3.

Just in case you're not in the know, Ateneo was invited in 1999 but we declined. Instead, we asked for observer's status, and thereafter, the next year, Ateneo did join and won the Championship.

Therefore, my contention still stands: we consistently placed within the Top 3 of the ICFC.

[Lek-Lek]

Originally posted by tammers
Pero baklang lek-lek, wala pong BS Marketing sa UP Diliman kaya dapat lang hangang 3rd place lang sila. :lol: :lol: :lol:


insecure na atenistang bakla! teacher pa man din. ha ha ha

Eh wala rin naman kaming BS Marketing sa Ateneo a. :)

Sinabi ko bang meron? That means, sa Marketing contests, walang may advantage or disadvantage, and one gets to really compare apples to apples.

And correction - UP-D is yet to make it to the Top 3 of PANA and PMA.

[tammers]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek

Just in case you're not in the know, Ateneo was invited in 1999 but we declined. Instead, we asked for observer's status, and thereafter, the next year, Ateneo did join and won the Championship.

then after that, it never tasted a victory anymore. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Originally posted by Lek-Lek
Therefore, my contention still stands: we consistently placed within the Top 3 of the ICFC.

hang galing-galing tahlagah noh. despite walang accountancy and Finance courses sa Ateneoh. hang galing. hello... :lol:

[tammers]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek
Eh wala rin naman kaming BS Marketing sa Ateneo a. :)

Sinabi ko bang meron? That means, sa Marketing contests, walang may advantage or disadvantage, and one gets to really compare apples to apples.
wala din namang BS Finance sa UP a. so hindi apple-to-apple? :glee:

[Lek-Lek]

Originally posted by intensity1214
and this 10% could only place 3rd in a competition.

Bakit, ilang beses na ba nakapasok school mo sa Top 3?

[Lek-Lek]

Originally posted by deepCOOL
You’ve been ridiculous all throughout in this thread.
You missed the fact that UP won it 3 times, La Salle won it twice and Ateneo won it once, since this competition started. But here you are conceitedly defending your school why it failed to grab the championship trophy. I think you and your fellow titsers are the ones who missed the message which the pexers are trying to send across, that having no Accountancy and Finance course shouldn’t be your excuse every time your representatives fail to take hold of the championship trophy.

Here’s the tally of past winners:
UP – 3
DLSU – 2
AdMU – 1

Don’t give us the “we-are-consistently-in-the-top-3” excuse therefore ateneo is ............... that's lame. ]

Did I ever say "We did not win the championship because...."????

I never said that, I believe. What I said was "We placed 3rd, and we are very happy even if we don't have an accounting program."

Ang layo yata ng inference mo.

[tammers]

^ bat, sinabi nya ba may vale/salu o UPCAT passers sa school nya? :glee:

[Lek-Lek]

Originally posted by tammers
wala din namang BS Finance sa UP a. so hindi apple-to-apple? :glee:

Pero may accountancy. :)

[huntfan]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek
But you are assuming that Ateneo joined in 1999! :)

When I say consistently, it is pertinent, of course to assume that we joined those years we made it to the Top 3.

Just in case you're not in the know, Ateneo was invited in 1999 but we declined. Instead, we asked for observer's status, and thereafter, the next year, Ateneo did join and won the Championship.

Therefore, my contention still stands: we consistently placed within the Top 3 of the ICFC.

@Lek Lek... Yeah I am not "in the know" so thanks for the info. :)

[Lek-Lek]

Originally posted by tammers
then after that, it never tasted a victory anymore. :lol: :lol: :lol:



hang galing-galing tahlagah noh. despite walang accountancy and Finance courses sa Ateneoh. hang galing. hello... :lol:

Okay lang. Basta huwag lang kami mawala sa Top 3, okay na okay pa rin yan. :)

[Lek-Lek]

Originally posted by huntfan
@Lek Lek... Yeah I am not "in the know" so thanks for the info. :)

Okay. Peace. :)

[tammers]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek
Pero may accountancy. :)
yah, so?
and it's a finance contest, remember?
don't tell me walang accountancy and finance subjects sa ateneo. pero kung wala nga, why did your school sent out contestants in a contest where you think disadvantage na pala kayo? di ba stupidity yon? :lol:

[Lek-Lek]

Originally posted by tammers
yah, so?
and it's a finance contest, remember?
don't tell me walang accountancy and finance subjects sa ateneo. pero kung wala nga, why did your school sent out contestants in a contest where you think disadvantage na pala kayo? di ba stupidity yon? :lol:

May I rephrase lang your question if I may, "...did your school send out contestants in a contest where you think disadvantaged na pala kayo?"

Well, yes we have accounting subjects, but we only take them in as much as they can be used in marketing, operations and strategy. Yes, we think we are a bit disadvantaged, but for the sake of establishing good relationships with the business community, one of our primary customers, we join the contest, and it is our goal to maintain our Top 3 performance each year. Modest goal? Maybe. But what's important is we get to achieve it.

[kapitangkiko]

i think we'll have to give it to ateneo, that they do perform well in these contests.

pero just to restate:
UP's overall performance is better.
and UP won this year's round very convincingly.

[Lek-Lek]

kapitangkiko: I agree with you, but only in the FINEX ICFC. It's a different ballgame altogether when we talk of the Philippine Marketing Association and the Philippine Association of National Advertisers. I'll have to assert that we're better than UP CBA in marketing.

[kapitangkiko]

^^^granted. but this thread is FINEX...

[tammers]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek
May I rephrase lang your question if I may, "...did your school send out contestants in a contest where you think disadvantaged na pala kayo?"

may pa rephrase -rephrase pa itong baklang ito. dont try to divert the topic. nag-aral din ako ng grammar maski hindi hamak sa FEU lang ako. pero wala kaing, natalo kami sa UP, DLSU, UST kasi wala kaming Accountancy and Finance. :lol: :lol:


Originally posted by Lek-Lek

Well, yes we have accounting subjects, but we only take them in as much as they can be used in marketing, operations and strategy. Yes, we think we are a bit disadvantaged, but for the sake of establishing good relationships with the business community, one of our primary customers, we join the contest, and it is our goal to maintain our Top 3 performance each year. Modest goal? Maybe. But what's important is we get to achieve it.

so ateneo offers accounting and finance subjects. so stop sour graping and accept it that your school lost to better teams/schools. Like what some people here are saying, it is just a contest. pero contest palang, ayaw mo na magpatalo maski talo ka na. :lol:

and ateneo's objective is to be in the top 3? so much for a very expensive school.

[Lek-Lek]

kapitangkiko: no prob. I'll give FINEX to UP-D hands down. :)

As I said before, kanya kanyang strengths lang yan.

[alikishi]

Originally posted by tammers
yah, so?
and it's a finance contest, remember?
don't tell me walang accountancy and finance subjects sa ateneo. pero kung wala nga, why did your school sent out contestants in a contest where you think disadvantage na pala kayo? di ba stupidity yon? :lol:

I think Ateneo sent out contestants to ICFC because we believe that even we can prepare for it. I can remember the times when Ateneo would join the Industrial Engineering Competition and would consistently lose to UP, La Salle and Mapua (i think). But after serious thoughts, iba talaga ang IE sa ME so hindi na namin pinagpilitan yung sarili namin dun sa contest na yun

[tammers]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek
kapitangkiko: I agree with you, but only in the FINEX ICFC. It's a different ballgame altogether when we talk of the Philippine Marketing Association and the Philippine Association of National Advertisers. I'll have to assert that we're better than UP CBA in marketing.

in a CONTEST! but to say your students are generally better than UP students, that's crap!

I think patusok mo nalang puwit mo sa bakayo. :lol: :lol: :lol:

anong problema mo bading?

[alikishi]

Originally posted by kapitangkiko
i think we'll have to give it to ateneo, that they do perform well in these contests.

pero just to restate:
UP's overall performance is better.
and UP won this year's round very convincingly.

Yes. UP is probably the best school in terms of accountancy and finance. Mukha ngang maganda yung BAA program niyo.

[tammers]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek
kapitangkiko: no prob. I'll give FINEX to UP-D hands down. :)

As I said before, kanya kanyang strengths lang yan.

ohhhhhhhhhh did you say that?
show us your old post saying that.

[alikishi]

Originally posted by tammers
in a CONTEST! but to say your students are generally better than UP students, that's crap!

I think patusok mo nalang puwit mo sa bakayo. :lol: :lol: :lol:

anong problema mo bading?

aray ko po... masakit yan :bash:

[tammers]

Originally posted by alikishi
I think Ateneo sent out contestants to ICFC because we believe that even we can prepare for it. I can remember the times when Ateneo would join the Industrial Engineering Competition and would consistently lose to UP, La Salle and Mapua (i think). But after serious thoughts, iba talaga ang IE sa ME so hindi na namin pinagpilitan yung sarili namin dun sa contest na yun
buti naman ateneo knows how to analyze where to put itself once in a while. at least, walang: ateneo lost to UP kasi wala kaming IE subjects ek-ek. sa FINEX, what's the point of defending your school? this is just a contest tapos parang mamamatay na si lek-lek kung hindi nya ma defend ang school nya why it lost to UP, UST DLSU etc... 6th place lang ang school ko pero, happy na ako sa school ko. eh, si lek-lek, nauubos na ang energy nya kakadefend sa ateneo. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[alikishi]

or is it ganito?*poke*

[alikishi]

Originally posted by tammers
buti naman ateneo knows how to analyze where to put itself once in a while. at least, walang: ateneo lost to UP kasi wala kaming IE subjects ek-ek. sa FINEX, what's the point of defending your school? this is just a contest tapos parang mamamatay na si lek-lek kung hindi nya ma defend ang school nya why it lost to UP, UST DLSU etc... 6th place lang ang school ko pero, happy na ako sa school ko. eh, si lek-lek, nauubos na ang energy nya kakadefend sa ateneo. :lol: :lol: :lol:

it is basically because they think that they can perform at par with the other schools in the Finex ICFC.

Since the ICFC is pattered to the CFA level 1 exams, Ateneo students can do well in the contest

[tammers]

Originally posted by alikishi
it is basically because they think that they can perform at par with the other schools in the Finex ICFC.

Since the ICFC is pattered to the CFA level 1 exams, Ateneo students can do well in the contest
ah yon pala e.
then what's the point for lek-lek to reason out, ateneo lost to UP and etc becuase it didn't have accountancy and finance courses. if he has a well-shaped mind, is there really a need to say those things?

[Lek-Lek]

Meron inherent advantage ang UP-D and the rest kasi di na nila kailangan aralin ng todo ang financial accounting. And besides, their curriculum leave a lot of space for finance courses.

Ateneo, on the other hand, devotes 2/3 of the entire curriculum to core subjects and 1/3 to the specific degree. And since we're really general management in orientation, we can only rack up a maximum of 9 units (3 subjects for accounting and finance), but notwithstanding that, we place in the Top 3 and yes, we are damn proud of it!

alikishi's point is this: Ateneo still has to do a lot of studying or reviewing if only to equalize the advantage of the other schools.

[Lek-Lek]

Originally posted by tammers
in a CONTEST! but to say your students are generally better than UP students, that's crap!

I think patusok mo nalang puwit mo sa bakayo. :lol: :lol: :lol:

anong problema mo bading?

That is the reason why we are secluding the discussions here to the contests e. If at all, they are the only heuristic measures we can use to make our assertions.

And seems like you're hallucinating: I don't remember making any contentions that sounded like "generally better, etc. etc." anywhere in this thread? Okay ka lang?

Please lang, don't drag USC-Cebu into this one.

[tammers]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek
Meron inherent advantage ang UP-D and the rest kasi di na nila kailangan aralin ng todo ang financial accounting. And besides, their curriculum leave a lot of space for finance courses.
Then that's what makes them the better team to Ateneo. there's absolutely no need for sour graping and all then. When you say congrats, you should mean it. otherwise, don't say it if it leaves a scratch in your heart when you say it. The UP team is a clear winner and it's so clear that even execs of citibank and etc were very, very much impressed with their showings. I bet even Ateneo teachers were very much impressed too. That's how excellent they are. furthermore, UP is the only school that won this contest 3 times or that's 50% wins since this contsest has been founded. And here you are so arrogant that can't accept UP's supremacy in this field. How could you? You didn't even pass UPCAT. duh!

[alikishi]

I bet even Ateneo teachers were very much impressed too. That's how excellent they are

I was impressed with the UP team (specially that mutant girl hehhe) this year. Galing nga. Pero last year, medyo napa :eek: ako

[Lek-Lek]

tammers,

I'll leave you to continue hallucinating about unverifiable facts.

Basta ako, I already said for how many times that I do not consider ourselves losers since we're in the winners' circle. And winners never do the "sourgraping" thing. Yes, I was impressed by UP's performance, that's why I congratulated them. But it makes me feel really good knowing that those who didn't make it to the Top 3 even had accountancy and finance majors in their ranks. That was the point that I was hoping you could read since the beginning - but apparently, I had to explicitate it for you.

But if you want to know, the UP team developed good relationships with the Ateneo team and were even surprised to know that two of our contestants are juniors and are yet to complete their legitimate finance courses. :)

[tammers]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek
That is the reason why we are secluding the discussions here to the contests e. If at all, they are the only heuristic measures we can use to make our assertions.

And seems like you're hallucinating: I don't remember making any contentions that sounded like "generally better, etc. etc." anywhere in this thread? Okay ka lang?

Please lang, don't drag USC-Cebu into this one.

secluding or whatever, don't make any stupid, non-sense issue about what should it takes to win a FINEX. you'd only sound like your fellow atenean, Boy Abunda making malandi chismis and all. :lol:

and what's USC-Cebu? what's the purpose of you dragging that school in this disccussion? Are you sure you're not the one hallucinating?

[tammers]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek
tammers,

But if you want to know, the UP team developed good relationships with the Ateneo team and were even surprised to know that two of our contestants are juniors and are yet to complete their legitimate finance courses. :)
wtf! here we are again with your bobos.
why send out juniors in a stiff contest like the FINEX?
It;s either you're understatimating this contest or your school could not find qualified contestants from the senior level to represent for this year's contest. :lol: :lol: :lol:

alam mo, bumabalik palagi sayo mga kata n g a han mo. :lol:

[Lek-Lek]

tammers,

USC-Cebu placed 6th. Diba sabi mo 6th place lang school mo?

Unless....hmmmm....


if you cannot defend your arguments logically, then quit the crap. the term "whatever" alarms me to a person desperate for the gift of logic and the endowment of linguistic sophistication.

[Lek-Lek]

Originally posted by tammers
wtf! here we are again with your bobos.
why send out juniors in a stiff contest like the FINEX?
It;s either you're understatimating this contest or your school could not find qualified contestants from the senior level to represent for this year's contest. :lol: :lol: :lol:

alam mo, bumabalik palagi sayo mga kata n g a han mo. :lol:

Eh sa wala na puwede isali e???

Besides, hindi ako ang pumipili. The one behind the choices has his own reasons - reasons which may not be palpable to you.

[tammers]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek
Eh sa wala na puwede isali e???

Besides, hindi ako ang pumipili. The one behind the choices has his own reasons - reasons which may not be palpable to you.

so, you're saying there's another one who's more t a n g a than you are in Ateneo? :lol:

[tammers]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek
Eh sa wala na puwede isali e???



wala na ba talagang matalino sa seniors dyan sa ateneo?
wala ng mapagpilian sa seniors.... wawa naman. so much for an expensive school.

[tammers]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek
tammers,

USC-Cebu placed 6th. Diba sabi mo 6th place lang school mo?

Unless....hmmmm....


if you cannot defend your arguments logically, then quit the crap. the term "whatever" alarms me to a person desperate for the gift of logic and the endowment of linguistic sophistication.
I'm from FEU. I thought my school placed 6th. if its not, then i don't know how my school's representatives fare this year. last year, i heard we placed 6th and that's so much for a school like FEU. and i humbly accept enough the defeat to UP, DLSU and etc....

[Lek-Lek]

Originally posted by tammers
I'm from FEU. I thought my school placed 6th. if its not, then i don't know how my school's representatives fare this year. last year, i heard we placed 6th and that's so much for a school like FEU. and i humbly accept enough the defeat to UP, DLSU and etc....

Now nobody will take you seriously here.

FEU did not make it to the Top 6 last year - if they did, they would have been included in the 1st Citibank Young Bankers' Congress. Tell you what, never meddle into something which you do not fully know - and don't insult us, when you look and sound pathetic yourself.

[mac_bolan00]

here's my bottom line for you, lek-lek. you praise this year's winners in two sentences whereas you expand a losing team's position in pages.

in an air of celebration for victors and friendly banter for losers, your lengthy discussions are crass, irrelevant and insulting. the only consistency in you is your desire to praise a school beyond anyone's caring. that holds whether THAT school happens to win in a competition or not. i remember how you used to put down UP trollers in early 2000 by reminding them of ateneo's finex win in 1999, and how you spent months ranting over UP's win in 2000 using the same tired arguments. get it? you've been repeating the same tired points for nearly five years! so how has the reality of 5 years if finex contests affected your style?

[cHaSeR]

Lek-Lek,

I think you've proven your point more than enough in this thread. We're all happy that Ateneo has consistently placed in the Top 3 ever since the inception of the FINEX-ICFC in spite of it not having an Accounting or Finance undergrad program. Just don't keep rubbing it in. I'm a Lasallian and I take criticisms constructively, but when provoked, I would defend my Alma Mater, whatever happens.

You must realize that your statement "I am proud of the fact that Ateneo has consistently placed in the Top 3 ever since the beginning" has been posted so many times in this thread that it would most likely trigger violent reactions, from Lasallians most especially. Why? It's because we were the ones who lost the crown; we were the ones who weren't able to defend our title; we didn't get to take home the wooden trophy; we were the ones who faired poorly this year; we only made 4th runner-up; and, just as you said, we did not consistently make the Top 3. I've accepted the fact that our team this year paled in comparison to our back-to-back powerhouse players from the past two years. We accept our loss whole-heartedly and we are not RATIONALIZING our defeat. The best we can do now is evaluate our team's performance this year and see where exactly we need to improve on. As for you, Lek-Lek, I think you should stop repeating the "proud-to-have-consistently-made-it-to-the-Top-3" line because, frankly, NAKAKABASTOS NA SIYA MINSAN.

I hope I don't hear violent reactions to my post. I'm simply being honest. Please take note that my views don't necessarily reflect that of the whole Lasallian student body.

[twerpy_craphead]

Originally posted by cHaSeR
1st - UP Diliman
2nd - UST
3rd - AdMU
4th - MS Enverga University
5th - DLSU-Manila

Sigh...Too bad La Salle wasn't able to make a grand slam this year. It's obvious that the other schools had come into this competition more prepared than La Salle.

So I guess UP-D is finally going to bring home the wooden trophy for having won the competition three times already.

Congratulations to UST for making 1st runner-up. I was just wondering, does UST have a Finance course? Kudos to Enverga as well for making it to the Top 5.




WHOAH! :eek: i couldn't believe and never actually thought that MS Enverga University-Lucena City won 4th place! hehe...that really is good news for them. tsk...di na pala dapat minamaliit ngayon ang Enverga...hehe...now i know which school i can transfer to in case i get kicked out off my current school(im from Lucena, that's why)...LOL...

[twerpy_craphead]

Originally posted by cHaSeR
Lek-Lek,

I think you've proven your point more than enough in this thread. We're all happy that Ateneo has consistently placed in the Top 3 ever since the inception of the FINEX-ICFC in spite of it not having an Accounting or Finance undergrad program. Just don't keep rubbing it in. I'm a Lasallian and I take criticisms constructively, but when provoked, I would defend my Alma Mater, whatever happens.

You must realize that your statement "I am proud of the fact that Ateneo has consistently placed in the Top 3 ever since the beginning" has been posted so many times in this thread that it would most likely trigger violent reactions, from Lasallians most especially. Why? It's because we were the ones who lost the crown; we were the ones who weren't able to defend our title; we didn't get to take home the wooden trophy; we were the ones who faired poorly this year; we only made 4th runner-up; and, just as you said, we did not consistently make the Top 3. I've accepted the fact that our team this year paled in comparison to our back-to-back powerhouse players from the past two years. We accept our loss whole-heartedly and we are not RATIONALIZING our defeat. The best we can do now is evaluate our team's performance this year and see where exactly we need to improve on. As for you, Lek-Lek, I think you should stop repeating the "proud-to-have-consistently-made-it-to-the-Top-3" line because, frankly, NAKAKABASTOS NA SIYA MINSAN.

I hope I don't hear violent reactions to my post. I'm simply being honest. Please take note that my views don't necessarily reflect that of the whole Lasallian student body.




well, what do you expect from "them"? it's very typical of ateneans...



win or LOSE, it's the EXCUSE they CHOOSE!




nuff said...

[Dennis21]

Originally posted by mac_bolan00
here's my bottom line for you, lek-lek. you praise this year's winners in two sentences whereas you expand a losing team's position in pages.

in an air of celebration for victors and friendly banter for losers, your lengthy discussions are crass, irrelevant and insulting. the only consistency in you is your desire to praise a school beyond anyone's caring. that holds whether THAT school happens to win in a competition or not. i remember how you used to put down UP trollers in early 2000 by reminding them of ateneo's finex win in 1999, and how you spent months ranting over UP's win in 2000 using the same tired arguments. get it? you've been repeating the same tired points for nearly five years! so how has the reality of 5 years if finex contests affected your style?
aray ko po. masakit po mga sinabi nyo, sir, lalo't na pag mahangin yung pinagsabihan.

[Dennis21]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek
Eh sa wala na puwede isali e???

:eek: :eek: :eek:

naubosan na ng talents ang ateneo.............

[Dennis21]

Originally posted by alikishi
Yes. UP is probably the best school in terms of accountancy and finance. Mukha ngang maganda yung BAA program niyo.
But Lek-Lek does not seem to agree with you this time. He still thinks the Ateneo team, which placed a dismal 3rd, is the better team. and to think, he has been saying that since 5 years since........

[archerguy]

Keep it cool cHaSeR. There are just some people here who like to rub salt in the wound. It's just very un-Lasallian.

I suppose you've read the FINEX thread last year (where we won Back2Back). Compare it with the posts in this thread. See the difference?

We're a class act. ;)

[Thoma§]

originally posted by Chaser
1st - UP Diliman
2nd - UST
3rd - AdMU
4th - MS Enverga University
5th - DLSU-Manila

Sigh...Too bad La Salle wasn't able to make a grand slam this year. It's obvious that the other schools had come into this competition more prepared than La Salle.

So I guess UP-D is finally going to bring home the wooden trophy for having won the competition three times already.

Congratulations to UST for making 1st runner-up. I was just wondering, does UST have a Finance course? Kudos to Enverga as well for making it to the Top 5.
Hmmm.. we don't have that course but we do have Business Administration, Accountancy, Economics and Information Management (that recently transfered to the UST College of Science). Anyway, UST is a good commerce school but i guess UP, Ateneo and La Salle are better schools than UST in this field since they dominate competitions, board examinations and even the field of commerce.

congrats to everyone! cheers! ;)

[Lek-Lek]

Originally posted by mac_bolan00
here's my bottom line for you, lek-lek. you praise this year's winners in two sentences whereas you expand a losing team's position in pages.

in an air of celebration for victors and friendly banter for losers, your lengthy discussions are crass, irrelevant and insulting. the only consistency in you is your desire to praise a school beyond anyone's caring. that holds whether THAT school happens to win in a competition or not. i remember how you used to put down UP trollers in early 2000 by reminding them of ateneo's finex win in 1999, and how you spent months ranting over UP's win in 2000 using the same tired arguments. get it? you've been repeating the same tired points for nearly five years! so how has the reality of 5 years if finex contests affected your style?

But whatever is happening here never started with me. I was having a nice discussion with Hulk, when suddenly, people...I mean....

You can't blame me - I was just explaining my position and perspective. You may be right - we have indeed repeatedly insisted that we don't have these programs that other schools have - and believe me, during a dinner last night hosted by our Dean, he too, reiterated that point (and how it makes him very proud) - but again, it's also in response to a lot of criticisms hurled against us, repeatedly each year! Review the entire thread, and you probably will see that an alleged UPian, Royal-Blood started it all. So, unless matigil sila, we won't stop either.

[Lek-Lek]

Originally posted by cHaSeR
Lek-Lek,

I think you've proven your point more than enough in this thread. We're all happy that Ateneo has consistently placed in the Top 3 ever since the inception of the FINEX-ICFC in spite of it not having an Accounting or Finance undergrad program. Just don't keep rubbing it in. I'm a Lasallian and I take criticisms constructively, but when provoked, I would defend my Alma Mater, whatever happens.

You must realize that your statement "I am proud of the fact that Ateneo has consistently placed in the Top 3 ever since the beginning" has been posted so many times in this thread that it would most likely trigger violent reactions, from Lasallians most especially. Why? It's because we were the ones who lost the crown; we were the ones who weren't able to defend our title; we didn't get to take home the wooden trophy; we were the ones who faired poorly this year; we only made 4th runner-up; and, just as you said, we did not consistently make the Top 3. I've accepted the fact that our team this year paled in comparison to our back-to-back powerhouse players from the past two years. We accept our loss whole-heartedly and we are not RATIONALIZING our defeat. The best we can do now is evaluate our team's performance this year and see where exactly we need to improve on. As for you, Lek-Lek, I think you should stop repeating the "proud-to-have-consistently-made-it-to-the-Top-3" line because, frankly, NAKAKABASTOS NA SIYA MINSAN.

I hope I don't hear violent reactions to my post. I'm simply being honest. Please take note that my views don't necessarily reflect that of the whole Lasallian student body.

You know how I congratulated you last year for DLSU's back-to-back championship. But just like you, I was only provoked. Why not review the entire thread and see for yourself who started it all? Again, when provoked, I will vigorously defend the Ateneo.

[Playingmouse]

may peace reign in this thread.

pero hindi pa pala nananalo ang ust? nakakahiya naman.

[intensity1214]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek
You know how I congratulated you last year for DLSU's back-to-back championship. But just like you, I was only provoked. Why not review the entire thread and see for yourself who started it all? Again, when provoked, I will vigorously defend the Ateneo.

lek, sorry, but you have provoked people to provoke you.

[alikishi]

Originally posted by Playingmouse
may peace reign in this thread.

pero hindi pa pala nananalo ang ust? nakakahiya naman.

nakakatawa ka ah

[Dennis21]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek
So, unless matigil sila, we won't stop either.

at nanakot ka pa ha. :eek:

[ROYAL-blood02]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek

You can't blame me - I was just explaining my position and perspective. You may be right - we have indeed repeatedly insisted that we don't have these programs that other schools have - and believe me, during a dinner last night hosted by our Dean, he too, reiterated that point (and how it makes him very proud) - but again, it's also in response to a lot of criticisms hurled against us, repeatedly each year! Review the entire thread, and you probably will see that an alleged UPian, Royal-Blood started it all. So, unless matigil sila, we won't stop either.

kaya ba mayabang ka kasi mayabang din ang dean nyo? :lol:
hindi lang mayabang ang dean nyo, ang laki pang t a n g a.
we lost to UP, La Salle etc because we dont have BS in Finance/Accountancy. :lol: :lol: :lol:
anong klasing rason yan? rason ng maid yan. :lol:

[mac_bolan00]

^^
for once i agree with you, gerry_lim! :lol:

[ROYAL-blood02]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek
Why do some people here seem to have missed the fact that AdMU is one of the three winners? :) Last I know, we got the 2nd runner-up trophy - and I don't suppose losers get trophies, no?

I have said it over and over again - we are perfectly happy with the way our team performed not only this year but during the previous editions of the ICFC. :)

3rd place is not enough to be winners yet you speak as if your representatives emerged as champions.

3rd place is just 3rd place. champion is champion!

[kundera_tan]

:) Basta mahalaga nanalo ang UP.
Sana makasali si sixtus next year.:*)

[cHaSeR]

So I guess the a-priori expectations of many are true: DLSU-Manila's performance in the FINEX-ICFC is almost perfectly negatively correlated to its performance in the UAAP Men's Seniors Basketball Tournament (the past four years, that is).

[Hulk]

Yep, I was right, their performances in both competitions are perfectly negatively correlated (so far)! I guess, a school cannot have all the blessings. :lol:

1999: Champion - UAAP Men's Basketball / FINEX (UP)
2000: Champion - UAAP Men's Basketball / FINEX (Ateneo)
2001: Champion - UAAP Men's Basketball / FINEX (UP)
2002: Champion - FINEX ICFC / UAAP (Ateneo)
2003: Champion - FINEX ICFC / UAAP (FEU)
2004: Champion - UAAP Men's Basketball / FINEX (UP)

:frank:

[intensity1214]

Originally posted by Lek-Lek
kapitangkiko: I agree with you, but only in the FINEX ICFC. It's a different ballgame altogether when we talk of the Philippine Marketing Association and the Philippine Association of National Advertisers. I'll have to assert that we're better than UP CBA in marketing.

could someone post the top 3 PANA winners (from the start of the competitions to last year's). thanks. :)

[SurreyWiltshire]

Originally posted by ROYAL-blood02
kaya ba mayabang ka kasi mayabang din ang dean nyo? :lol:
hindi lang mayabang ang dean nyo, ang laki pang t a n g a.
we lost to UP, La Salle etc because we dont have BS in Finance/Accountancy. :lol: :lol: :lol:
anong klasing rason yan? rason ng maid yan. :lol:

:glee:

walang accountancy at finance course sa ateneo.

[acacia_tree]

Originally posted by intensity1214
could someone post the top 3 PANA winners (from the start of the competitions to last year's). thanks. :)

Ateneo won it 3 times!

[twerpy_craphead]

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Originally posted by intensity1214
could someone post the top 3 PANA winners (from the start of the competitions to last year's). thanks.
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Originally posted by acacia_tree
Ateneo won it 3 times!





tsk...call yourself an intellectual, eh? he's not asking who won it 3 times, he's asking who are the top 3 winners....


so dumb...
so atenean...

[Ultra_MegaStar]

^^May napikon na, just he because they're not the top winners in the PANA Marketing Competition. Well, you won the UAAP men's basketball title naman this year ha and you have such clean comfort rooms naman. ^^ :lol:

Crabs are all over the Philippine Islands. No wonder we're in such a pathetic shape.

[samurai_faegen]

It would be good if you compute for the winning percentage of each school in different academic contests.

Isang lang ang katakataka sa Finex contest. People still mix finance with accounting when in reality they are very different animals. Base sa narinig ko eh parang accounting contest lang itong Finex contest. Ibang usapan pag finance na.

[tyanak_me]

You heard wrong there boy. No matter how much so-called finance people try to differentiate themselves, they are in the same circle as accountants.

I've a better qualifier for percentage winnings per school. Weigh the percentages by the peso value per unit in that school.

Ateneo will be lucky if it makes it to the top-20. :lol:

[samurai_faegen]

We are not talking about social structure here but essentially tools for business. I pity your company if your VP for Finance is your trusted accountant.

Saan ka nag aral or nagtapos? Halatang kulang na kulang ang tuition mo eh or nasayang lang ang pera ng nanay at tatay mo. :lol:

[Hulk]

Let's settle the issue. There's a great difference between the mindsets of a finance man and an accountant. An accountant follows accounting rules, while a finance man tries to look beyond these rules.

However, to say a finance man doesn't need to understand accounting is preposterous. For a finance man to see beyond the rules, he has to understand the rules. Both FINEX and the CFA Institute understand this interdependence that is why 40% of the Level 1 & 2 of the CFA Exam is on accounting. For the recent FINEX ICFC finals, 28 of the 77 test bank questions were in accounting or financial statement analysis. So to say that it is an "accounting contest lang" is simply wrong.


:frank:

[mac_bolan00]

actually, i agree that the underlying principles between financial management and accounting are the same. It's only when one goes to the specific tasks when it has to borrow from other disciplines (like economics, math and psychology).

[intensity1214]

so wala pa ring nakakasagot ng tanong ko. sinu-sino ang mga usual top 3 sa PANA simula nang nagpa-contest ito? :)

[intensity1214]

so wala pa ring nakakasagot ng tanong ko. sinu-sino ang mga usual top 3 sa PANA simula nang nagpa-contest ito? :)

[mac_bolan00]

Originally posted by samurai_faegen
We are not talking about social structure here but essentially tools for business. I pity your company if your VP for Finance is your trusted accountant.

Saan ka nag aral or nagtapos? Halatang kulang na kulang ang tuition mo eh or nasayang lang ang pera ng nanay at tatay mo. :lol:
tyanak and i work in the same bank. here's a run-down of the top-managers:

president: liacom-dlsu, MBA - kellog: a guy whose forte is really marketing (taught marketing at dlsu) but somehow went into banking

EVP: ?-from dlsu - worked as both a lending officer and a back-room adminstrator

SVP for account management: accounting-dlsu, MBM-AIM - funny how a cpa finds himself in charge of the bank's lending portfolio. ask any banker and he'll tell you the life of a bank depends in its accounts management.

SVP for remedial accounts: AB econ - admu, MA econ-UAP - a jack-of-all-trades. has worked in nearly every operating function of a bank.

SVP for new accounts: accounting - dlsu. another wayward accountant, eh?

SVP branch banking: ba - UP, tasked with increasing total deposits by at least 1.5 billion pesos a year.

VP controller - ba-admu with minor subjects in computer science. ok, the acountant's job is being handled by a non-acountant. don't screw your face. he is the former IT manager and accounting these days is fast becoming an IT function.
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note: the EVP is the son of the chairman while the controller is a long-time employee of the bank. the president and all the SVPs were hired only a few years ago for their skill and experience.

[tyanak_me]

Originally posted by mac_bolan00
tyanak and i work in the same bank. here's a run-down of the top-managers:

president: liacom-dlsu, MBA - kellog: a guy whose forte is really marketing (taught marketing at dlsu) but somehow went into banking

EVP: ?-from dlsu - worked as both a lending officer and a back-room adminstrator

SVP for account management: accounting-dlsu, MBM-AIM - funny how a cpa finds himself in charge of the bank's lending portfolio. ask any banker and he'll tell you the life of a bank depends in its accounts management.

SVP for remedial accounts: AB econ - admu, MA econ-UAP - a jack-of-all-trades. has worked in nearly every operating function of a bank.

SVP for new accounts: accounting - dlsu. another wayward accountant, eh?

SVP branch banking: ba - UP, tasked with increasing total deposits by at least 1.5 billion pesos a year.

VP controller - ba-admu with minor subjects in computer science. ok, the acountant's job is being handled by a non-acountant. don't screw your face. he is the former IT manager and accounting these days is fast becoming an IT function.
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note: the EVP is the son of the chairman while the controller is a long-time employee of the bank. the president and all the SVPs were hired only a few years ago for their skill and experience.
The chief credit analyst and risk officer graduated BS Geology from UP. He's even licensed to work as a geologist. :lol:

[intensity1214]

i'll be impressed if this bank is one of the top 5 philippine banks. :)

[tyanak_me]

Originally posted by intensity1214
i'll be impressed if this bank is one of the top 5 philippine banks. :)
In its category it's number 2. :)