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HARE
Aug 6, 2004, 09:29 PM
I find it so annoying when Accounting major friends brag that they're taking up the HARDEST course ever been conceived by the Commission on Higher Education... Whaaa!

Minsan sa sobrang inis ko, I find myself thinking na what if, after I finish my course, try ACCOUNTING?...

Anyway, if ever naman, where can I study? UP BAA will surely not accept me kasi diba super high ang Quota nun, and I doubt if they accept trasferees, same as UST, they do not accept transferries right?. How about DLSU? SAN BEDA?

Introvert_S
Aug 6, 2004, 09:48 PM
don't fret. Engineering majors also make that claim ( not that it's not true, he he). Nursing majors also make that claim, with the added hint of superiority complex because they sure have an opportunity to earn green bucks unlike the engg majors. In short, may nadadalian, may nahihirapan

If you're not keen on logic, you'll have a hard time surviving accting. According to my CPA friends, understanding the "logic" of a transaction is very critical in accounting.

HARE
Aug 6, 2004, 10:09 PM
but I have an IQ of 142..hehe joke!

citycass
Aug 6, 2004, 10:25 PM
^ I don't think that's high enough to get you onto the BAA programme of UPD. :D

Try La Salle (if you can afford).

longshot_21
Aug 7, 2004, 12:30 PM
ganun naman dito pinas. everybody is claiming about being the hardest. that their number 1. that they're the best or that they're excellent. law schools, radio stations and networks included.

nkakatawa. inferiority complex.

Aquinatis
Aug 7, 2004, 01:40 PM
Well... If you're good at Logic and Analysis... I don't think accounting is a problem.

Ang hirap kasi sa accounting dapat "3-D" ka mag isip... every ins and outs of the entity's economic resources in a transaction should be accounted for... It's difficult to explain if you are not "accounting" oriented...

And Having a nationwide passing percentage of 18.5% (on average) in the board really says a lot...

Pero depende din talaga sa tao yan... Some of my classmates see accounting as just an extension of the typical Bookkeeping class in Highschool.

IMHO, Accounting is a challenging program, but not really that difficult if you "THINK LOGICAL".

Take it from an impartial Accountancy Major;)

Silverprophet
Aug 7, 2004, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by HARE
I find it so annoying when Accounting major friends brag that they're taking up the HARDEST course ever been conceived by the Commission on Higher Education... Whaaa!

Minsan sa sobrang inis ko, I find myself thinking na what if, after I finish my course, try ACCOUNTING?...

Anyway, if ever naman, where can I study? UP BAA will surely not accept me kasi diba super high ang Quota nun, and I doubt if they accept trasferees, same as UST, they do not accept transferries right?. How about DLSU? SAN BEDA?

It's not hard if you understand the format. Learning ACCOUNTING in school is boring. No two ways about it, ACCOUNTING is boring. Unless you are actually handling money, most of the time it doesn't make much sense.

Therefore, don't bother learning it unless you have a specific need for it. When your own money is on the line, I guarantee that you'll get real interested damned quick! :D

I do accounting as a hobby because I like numbers with P and $ in front of them and it saves me from hiring some B@$+@rd who will cook the books and rip me off.

citycass
Aug 7, 2004, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by longshot_21
ganun naman dito pinas. everybody is claiming about being the hardest. that their number 1. that they're the best or that they're excellent. law schools, radio stations and networks included.

nkakatawa. inferiority complex.

It's really hard to get into UP BAA. This is a FACT not a hype or an advertisement for UP. You may try it for yourself if you're doubting me. :D

Amongst this year's BAA freshmen students are the vale, salu and 2nd honorable mention of La Salle Greenhills; the salu of Ateneo de Manila; the vale of Ateneo de Davao; the vale of Poveda; the vale of CSA; the vale of Grace Christian HS; the vale of St. Jude; the vale of Quezon City Science High School; the vale of UPIS; the vale of St. Theresse-Cebu; the vale of St. Paul's Pasig.

Of the 87 BAA freshmen, 22 were high school valedictorians. 9 are Oblation Scholars.

For further verification on UP's BA and BAA student's Bio-data, you may go to room 106, College of Business Administration, UP Diliman.

cyber_romancer
Aug 7, 2004, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by citycass
It's really hard to get into UP BAA. This is a FACT not a hype or an advertisement for UP. You may try it for yourself if you're doubting me. :D

Amongst this year's BAA freshmen students are the vale, salu and 2nd honorable mention of La Salle Greenhills; the salu of Ateneo de Manila; the vale of Ateneo de Davao; the vale of Poveda; the vale of CSA; the vale of Grace Christian HS; the vale of St. Jude; the vale of Quezon City Science High School; the vale of UPIS; the vale of St. Theresse-Cebu; the vale of St. Paul's Pasig.

Of the 87 BAA freshmen, 22 were high school valedictorians. 9 are Oblation Scholars.

For further verification on UP's BA and BAA student's Bio-data, you may go to room 106, College of Business Administration, UP Diliman.

you surely have a lot of time in your hands researching these facts:)

cyber_romancer
Aug 7, 2004, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by citycass
It's really hard to get into UP BAA. This is a FACT not a hype or an advertisement for UP. You may try it for yourself if you're doubting me. :D

Amongst this year's BAA freshmen students are the vale, salu and 2nd honorable mention of La Salle Greenhills; the salu of Ateneo de Manila; the vale of Ateneo de Davao; the vale of Poveda; the vale of CSA; the vale of Grace Christian HS; the vale of St. Jude; the vale of Quezon City Science High School; the vale of UPIS; the vale of St. Theresse-Cebu; the vale of St. Paul's Pasig.

Of the 87 BAA freshmen, 22 were high school valedictorians. 9 are Oblation Scholars.

For further verification on UP's BA and BAA student's Bio-data, you may go to room 106, College of Business Administration, UP Diliman. wow considering you are only a member of this forum for only about 1 1/2 or 2 months you already accumulated such high number of posts tells me that you are not really a busy person:)

citycass
Aug 8, 2004, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by cyber_romancer
wow considering you are only a member of this forum for only about 1 1/2 or 2 months you already accumulated such high number of posts tells me that you are not really a busy person:)
classes will start on august 13.

citycass
Aug 8, 2004, 12:11 AM
Originally posted by cyber_romancer
you surely have a lot of time in your hands researching these facts:)

The vale of LSGH is still in contact with me through our peyups.com pm account. I got that from Him, btw.
and this makes my 200th post. :D

LongBow
Aug 8, 2004, 04:51 PM
Is Accounting Hard?- In many ways, yes.

LongBow
Aug 8, 2004, 06:36 PM
^coming from an average student.

jump
Aug 8, 2004, 07:55 PM
in many ways madali din. kung ikumpara mo sa engineering saka ibang science course, napakadali ng accounting.

LongBow
Aug 8, 2004, 08:07 PM
i suppose you've taken both accountancy and engineering courses.

demented_guy
Aug 8, 2004, 10:29 PM
Jump, how did you know that Accountancy is easier that Engineering? Care to elaborate?

I'm a BSA major and Accounting is hell. Pero it's relative naman. Some find it easy and some do not (like me). Add to that the pressure of having to maintain a certain cutoff grade to be able to proceed to the next level (in my case, 83 dapat). Depende rin sa program ng school na pinapasukan mo (DLSU in my case)

LongBow
Aug 8, 2004, 10:46 PM
ya, let's hear from jump. the guy's probably a CPA- Engineer! :)

demented_guy
Aug 8, 2004, 11:00 PM
CPA-Engineer... Hmmmm... Pede na gamitin ang expertise niya sa both fields sa Long Term Construction Contracts...

NYAHAHAHAHA! :D :D :D :cheers: :cheers: :D

WeAreThePExers
Aug 8, 2004, 11:29 PM
No offense to business students and graduates, but accounting and other business courses are way too boring for me.

My 2 cents. :)

fatgrrl_slim
Aug 9, 2004, 01:37 AM
I've always believed that there are no easy or hard subjects... it depends on the person's innate capabilities and interests. Mahirap ang Accounting kung hindi mo type ang tumitig sa mga numero at mag-analyze ng mga accounts. Pero kung mahilig ka sa math at mahusay ang logic and analysis mo, Accounting should be a breeze. Actually kahit mahilig ka sa Math, depende pa din eh. Merong mga nadadalian sa Engineering subjects na Math-related pero hirap na hirap sa Accounting subjects that require analysis of financial transactions in addition to computation of values (like Auditing Practice and Management Accounting). Not to mention that Accountancy students also have to take 12 units of Law and 12 units of Taxation.

Ergo, hindi porket Engineer ka or whatever (o may IQ ka na above 140), sisiw lang ang Accounting sa yo. Not necessarily.

Suddenly I remember Jessica Zafra's column before where she mentioned that she was considered one of the brightest when she was at St. Theresa's coz she's so good in English, then she went to Phil. Science and felt like a complete idiot next to her classmates who can barely construct a grammatically correct English sentence, but can rattle off polynomials with ease. Depende talaga yan sa natural na abilidad at interes ng tao.

BTW: Accountancy subjects do inject a little bit of Engineering concepts in them. eg. PERT-CPM which is mainly taken in Engineering, tine-take up din yun sa Management Accounting courses. And yes, mas madali sigurong intindihin yung Long-term Construction Contracts pag may background ka sa Engineering. :)

mac_bolan00
Aug 9, 2004, 11:47 AM
why is a high current ratio bad today but good in a year's time? :D

slasherette_19
Aug 9, 2004, 04:58 PM
to the question is accounting really that hard..my answer is yes..that's why i didn't major it..but my mom who is a CPA says it's that easy..malamang di ba..CPA sya..pero hirap talaga ko dito..one more thing i don't like numbers kaya siguro wala din yung desire ko na pagbutihin ang accounting..satisfied na ko sa pasang-awa.

smbgal
Aug 9, 2004, 05:15 PM
coming from an ave student (like me), acct is indeed hard for me..i like math and analyzing and stuff like that..pero it's really hard talaga..esp the exams..and i do feel bad about it..i don't BRAG about it to my friends, i just tell them kasi i really feel bad..and cmpre i do go to my friends, and it doesn't mean na i have this inferiority complex thing..add the pressure and a whole lot of things pa, ay naku, just like what my senior friend (im in junior) told me, sa acctg daw samin (ust), girl or guy talagng iiyak..please refrain from judging something you don't know that well, it's really offensive

jump
Aug 9, 2004, 06:18 PM
alam nyo kung bakit ko alam, kasi yung mga lagpak ng engineering (EEE) saka science (MBB), mga naging kaklase ko sa accounting. hehehe. Take note, hate na hate nila at wala sila kainteinteres sa accounting. Frustrated engineers at medical practitioners ika nga. Sabagay, related din naman sa accounting, engineering and doctoring financial statements!!

Pag sinabi ba madali yung kursong kinuha mo, it makes u any less of a person? Wag kasi defensive, katuwaan lang. CPA ako pero inaamin ko naman mas madali yung kinuha ko course kesa don sa kapatid kong engineer saka docktor. Pero di ako nahihiya, pasensyahan na lang, kasi mas malaki kinikita ko sa kanila!!! haha :P

ar!ene
Aug 9, 2004, 08:10 PM
im a bsa grad of 2004. i have to agree with previous posts that it is indeed relative whether you would consider it difficult or not..

kapitangkiko
Aug 9, 2004, 08:22 PM
tama, depende sa calling.
i had a classmate na almost nasipa sa engg and had to shift to baa - he excelled!
ako naman, i managed to finish engg pero hirap na hirap sa acctg subjects nung nage-mba. kaya eto frustrated mba pa rin. :(

guinevere_79
Aug 10, 2004, 01:20 AM
Accounting is hard if one's aptitude for logic and numbers is not above average.

I chose Accounting as my undergrad course precisely because I was looking for a course would be a breeze for me... it was just my pre-law course anyway. I didn't have any problems with Accounting mainly because I've always been more inclined to solving problems and applying logical reasoning. I never ever considered Engineering or Science as my undergrad course because I am so poor at those subjects, it's almost embarassing :lol:.

The reason why a lot of Accounting majors proclaim that the course is difficult is because most of the students are taking Accounting for the wrong reasons. If you survey a typical Accounting block and ask them if they really want to be an accountant, you wouldn't really get a straight answer. Most are just there because their parents told them to take that course, or because of the notion that's it's relatively easier (compared to other courses with professional exams) to get a job after passing the accounting board exam. Does anyone really aspire to be an accountant? No. Even I admit that I took that course for the wrong reasons.

froshie1
Aug 13, 2004, 09:40 AM
For me yes, for my beloved mama (+) no, she's really good at it and she even land number 11 in the board exam! Ganun ata pag UP eh.

Btw, answering your other questions why don't you try transferring? Kung mataas ba ang GPA mo eh baket hindi? At sa standards ng UP BAA based sa kwento ng mama ko eh talagang matindi dun, dahil noong patapos na sila at magtetake pa lang ng review ng board exam, eh nagkakanchawan sila lalo na iyong mga mahihina. sinasabing "wag ka na magboard!! baka mabahiran ang score ng UP, magkakaron ng bagsak" hehe ang mean nila ano pero totoo iyon.

ƒREQUENCY
Aug 14, 2004, 07:05 AM
Accounting is not THAT hard. :)

Try Electrical Engineering... it is THAT hard. :p

If you don't believe me, try and ask a BAA major...

cyber_romancer
Aug 14, 2004, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by citycass
^ I don't think that's high enough to get you onto the BAA programme of UPD. :D

Try La Salle (if you can afford). how stupid is the UP system ba? turning brilliant people into board flunkers? i dont believe that!

evidence: half their batch failed this may board exams and this is a fact

disturbed_erick
Aug 17, 2004, 04:56 PM
how stupid is the UP system ba? turning brilliant people into board flunkers? i dont believe that!

evidence: half their batch failed this may board exams and this is a fact
dito sila bumagsak:

law and taxation
audit theory and practice
management advisory services

ako ayoko na after 2 exams ng ba114. nasusuka nako pag nakakakita ako ng sfas/ias.

rains_delight
Aug 18, 2004, 11:45 AM
accounting requires logic. If you know the principle of debit and credit, accounting would be easy.

Introvert_S
Aug 19, 2004, 07:44 AM
Originally posted by cyber_romancer
how stupid is the UP system ba? turning brilliant people into board flunkers? i dont believe that!

evidence: half their batch failed this may board exams and this is a fact

and less than half of UST's examinees failed the May exams (29 out of 74). this is a fact.


anyway, accountancy in general is a popular course. for obvious reasons, the slots are limited so a slot is assured if you have a high UPG in the UPCAT(which is influenced by HS grades and the exam itself--hardly an accountancy aptitude test after all). now, there maybe high school campus figures in the BAA program but a number of them have to struggle to survive and finish the course in less than 7.5 years. You maybe in great danger if your grades are just near the limits for you to stay in the program. With the recent results of the board exams, mukhang tataas na naman ang mortality rate ng BAA. I hope the admin though addresses this problem para hindi na "seasonal" ang performance ng UP

silliman
Mar 14, 2005, 11:13 AM
i think it is. grabeh kasi eto eh. as in. debit here, credit here. and everything. pero it's exciting lalo na pag nakapasa ka sa mga mahihirap na chap exams. everthing here is really a test of endurance. It's like a reality tv show. it's a game of survival.. Dream, believe, survive...accountancy.
anong say nyo mga fellow JPIANS....

Illumina_Ti
Jun 20, 2009, 11:16 PM
mga tol...if you wil base the level of difficulty in the results of board exams...probably it's the CPA board exam that tops the very low passing rate here in the philippines...

that's my opinion lang po....exception yung sa bar exams ...talaga namang mahirap ang law ....essay type kasi ^_^ heheheheh...

lockex
Jun 20, 2009, 11:41 PM
Kung sa pahirapan ng government exams, madali pa ang CPA. Nandyan ang bar. Tapos yung pang foreign service na pang vice consul(na I really want to take, kaso di ko alam mga subjects dito).

Accountancy is easy. Cakes. Logic lang yan, hindi math actually(pero entry level math is also very easy kung magaling ka sa logic). Mas laking gusto ko ang kursong ito kaysa sa mga liberal arts or the like na maraming pinapasang papers and etc. I'd rather have hard exams than other requirements.

Larry Tan
Jun 21, 2009, 06:20 AM
Kung sa pahirapan ng government exams, madali pa ang CPA. Nandyan ang bar. Tapos yung pang foreign service na pang vice consul(na I really want to take, kaso di ko alam mga subjects dito).

Accountancy is easy. Cakes. Logic lang yan, hindi math actually(pero entry level math is also very easy kung magaling ka sa logic). Mas laking gusto ko ang kursong ito kaysa sa mga liberal arts or the like na maraming pinapasang papers and etc. I'd rather have hard exams than other requirements.

That's the #6 in the May 2009 CPA Board Exam talking. He took the board right after graduating last April. Astig talaga yan.

Illumina_Ti
Jun 21, 2009, 04:30 PM
wow galing naman........

ganun talaga buhay...sadyang may pinanganak na magaling sa chosen field...heheheh...sana ganun din ako...^_^

Larry Tan
Jun 21, 2009, 05:06 PM
Yung #2 sa May board exam, graduated last April too, si "humanely_cpa" pexer din, sa PRTC nag undergrad review.

desirexist
Jun 25, 2009, 12:27 AM
Duh, i believe engineering is far difficult than accountancy!
Talents in mathematics (e.g. analyzation) is very neccessary
or else u'll end mekaniko(ME) or electrician(EE), haha.

My opinion though!

desirexist
Jun 25, 2009, 09:32 PM
I changed my mind! Accountancy is really confusing. Hakhak :)

100%wagi
Jun 28, 2009, 08:42 AM
It really depends on you. If you're pitiable in analysis, it will be very thorny for you to muddle through the problems provided by your professor. If you're driven to get ahead of others, it will be slightly easy. Accountancy is really hard, nevertheless.

I just hate people underestimate this course by saying accountancy = bookkeeping. I want to kick the *** of those persons who take this course too lightly. They prejudice this course without knowing what this course really means. And bookkeeping is just .01% of this course.

^_^V
Jun 28, 2009, 02:29 PM
Wag nio nlang pansinin *** mga nagsasabi na madali *** accounting. What is important is that ur humble. Kung nahihirapan ka ok lang un. kung nadadalian ka naman sa subject d mo na kelangan sabihin na easy db?

Ateneo_CdeO
Jul 1, 2009, 05:33 PM
don't underestimate accountancy program coz it's definitely not your average type of course.

As an accountancy student, I can say that this course is difficult since it really requires deep analysis and logic. So if you think you're good in analyzing, then go for it! Honestly I am not good in analysis but thank God I still manage to survive despite of all the challenges I had. But the battle has not yet finish..it's still a long battle over debits and credits!

Accounting is not hard if you just know the concepts and principles. Even how difficult the problem is, as long as you know the principle, there's no way you can't get the right answer. Charreeeng...

Good luck to all of us aspiring CPA!

ralphvillanueva
Jul 18, 2009, 08:08 AM
i think accounting is not a hard course...rather, your classmates should say..accounting is a challenging course...you need to be persistent and diligent to be an accounting as well as logic based...accountants as they say are made not inborn such as those who are taking physics, chemistry and molecular biology...you need not to be good in math you just need to put the lessons in your heart and review the concepts and principles....hope you got my message deep inside...hehe~

ralphvillanueva
Jul 18, 2009, 08:10 AM
y**ou need to be persistent and diligent to be an accountant as well as logic based

ralphvillanueva
Jul 18, 2009, 08:12 AM
**not inborn maybe you think most of my sentences are grammatically wrong in nature....there are even sentences in the provision of law such as not void...etc...hope this might be clear..so you will not think i'm stupid as you've thought...hehehe~

ralphvillanueva
Jul 18, 2009, 10:44 AM
Nota Bene: I would like to restate my preceeding statements from this:
Accounting should not be taken as a difficult rather as a challenging course. Among the undergraduate courses, accounting is the most beneficial since we are talking about "money". Yet, as they say, accountants are made. Yes, they are. You need not to be "genius" in mathematics so you will be a good accountant. You need to be diligent in the lessons. For those who are thinking that their courses are more difficult than accounting, please don't brag too much of your course because they are all created to make a significant contribution in our society. "Kanya-kanyang hirap lang lang".

sheen0510
Aug 7, 2009, 11:59 PM
logic at english siguro *** nagpapahirap sa accounting but personally, i don't believe that accounting is a very difficult course. i mean, i'm a graduate of a math-based course prior to taking accountancy pero mas nahirapan ako sa una kong course. ewan lang... or dahil gusto ko talaga ang course ko ngayon? though perseverance (i think) is very much needed in accountancy.

i will be a CPA! :)

HoneyAndClover
Aug 8, 2009, 11:06 PM
Sa UST naalala ko lang they take around 1500 na freshmen students.

that same batch nung naging seniors 200 + na lang ang regular students.

Entrance exams says nothing. Karamihan nga ng students na bumabagsak ng ENG and NURSING ng ust, accountancy ang bagsak. Madaling pumasok sa impyerno. Mahirap makalabas. hahaha.

I love my course. It is very challenging. Mathematically challenged kasi ako. But so far, ok pa naman ako. Senior na ako and surviving. :)

Kanya-kanyang forte yan. My prof in Tax says that the bar exam is nothing compared to the hell that was accounting. Well, his opinion not mine.

Thomas.Mapua
Sep 20, 2009, 03:31 AM
Sa UST naalala ko lang they take around 1500 na freshmen students.

that same batch nung naging seniors 200 + na lang ang regular students.

Entrance exams says nothing. Karamihan nga ng students na bumabagsak ng ENG and NURSING ng ust, accountancy ang bagsak. Madaling pumasok sa impyerno. Mahirap makalabas. hahaha.

I love my course. It is very challenging. Mathematically challenged kasi ako. But so far, ok pa naman ako. Senior na ako and surviving. :)

Kanya-kanyang forte yan. My prof in Tax says that the bar exam is nothing compared to the hell that was accounting. Well, his opinion not mine.

UST ka ba? haha kay sir macmod galing yan :)) CPA sa heart anyways ako failed ako sa ECE waiting ako sa accountancy yet im doing good in the acct program in UST :D
Accountancy is not math its logic, Enggineering is math (less logic i presume) but i just cant compare accountants with nursing and other med courses... all they do is memorize... ***** ayaw ko magmemorize huhuu

Larry Tan
Sep 20, 2009, 05:39 AM
logic at english siguro *** nagpapahirap sa accounting but personally, i don't believe that accounting is a very difficult course. i mean, i'm a graduate of a math-based course prior to taking accountancy pero mas nahirapan ako sa una kong course. ewan lang... or dahil gusto ko talaga ang course ko ngayon? though perseverance (i think) is very much needed in accountancy.

i will be a CPA! :)

Ang nagpapahirap sa accounting ay lack of (1) reading comprehension skills, (2)note-taking skills & (3) self-learning skills.

Kung meron ka niyan, di dapat mahirap ang accounting.:rotflmao:

time_saver02
Sep 27, 2009, 02:41 PM
meron k bng answer s Auditing ProblemsChap 11 (PPE) and MAS Chap 16 and 19,,pls paemail naman s time_saver02@yahoo.com tnx

namie_a
Oct 28, 2009, 12:11 AM
I think there is no hard or easy program. (Although I love accountancy!) Every program has its purspose. That's why it exist. That's the reason why we shouldn't take any program lightly for that matter.

jet_focus
Oct 29, 2009, 12:16 PM
If your only bullet is memorization, Accounting will be very difficult.

=)

grim_reaper1814
Nov 17, 2009, 10:56 PM
Duh, i believe engineering is far difficult than accountancy!
Talents in mathematics (e.g. analyzation) is very neccessary
or else u'll end mekaniko(ME) or electrician(EE), haha.

My opinion though!

we don't do analyzation in accounting. we do analysis. hehehe

ida_takahashi
Nov 18, 2009, 10:38 AM
we don't do analyzation in accounting. we do analysis. hehehe

natawa naman ako dito! :rotflmao: