AB Psychology: UP or Ateneo ?

[hart]

Hi. Please help me to decide which between the two schools is better in AB Psychology. If anybody has any description or knowledge of how the Psych program works in each school, it would be most appreciated. Thanks.

[kungpow]

If you want a holistic education, one that encompasses fields in the natural sciences, social sciences and humanities together with a substantial amount of units in psychology, go to Ateneo.

Otherwise, if you want more subjects related to your course, go to U.P.

I have three friends, sophomores, majoring in Psychology. One in DLSU, one in Ateneo and the last in U.P. During discussions pertaining to psychology, only my friends from DLSU and U.P. can understand each other. The reason? Because the DLSU and U.P. psych majors have already taken more psych units than the one from Ateneo who had only taken up an introductory course in psych.

It also doesn't hurt that U.P. is way cheaper and offers better facilities than Ateneo.

[hart]

any more thoughts/ help?

[juantwothree123]

Originally posted by kungpow
If you want a holistic education, one that encompasses fields in the natural sciences, social sciences and humanities together with a substantial amount of units in psychology, go to Ateneo.

Otherwise, if you want more subjects related to your course, go to U.P.

I have three friends, sophomores, majoring in Psychology. One in DLSU, one in Ateneo and the last in U.P. During discussions pertaining to psychology, only my friends from DLSU and U.P. can understand each other. The reason? Because the DLSU and U.P. psych majors have already taken more psych units than the one from Ateneo who had only taken up an introductory course in psych.

It also doesn't hurt that U.P. is way cheaper and offers better facilities than Ateneo.

huwag isingit ang La Sale, please. masakit sa mata.

[atenean_blooded]

Ateneo.

[massive08]

If you after the prestige of the school, choose UP.

[Kimberly Jones]

I recommend Ateneo.

[bishop]

Ateneo.

[smilewarrior]

Both ateneo and up are good schools. The only difference would be the tuition fee.

[Thoma§]

ateneo

[Introvert_S]

UP!!!

http://web.kssp.upd.edu.ph/psych/index.htm

[Thoma§]

bakit 15 units lang yung 1st year sa curriculum ng UP (e.g. yung sa 1st sem)? or hindi lang talaga nakasulat yung iba kasi parang electives ba siya or something?

[Introvert_S]

most courses naman in UP, normal lang na konti lang yung subjects mo. yung iba, nagdadagdag pa ng subjectsm that is kung makakuha pa sila....

problem usually starts during the succeeding sems... those deceiving 3-unit courses sometimes eh napakabigat kaya mahirap din makakuha ng mataas na grades

[Thoma§]

buti nga kayo konti lang, sa amin required yung fixed 24 units grrr. :mad: plus pa yang theology and rotc, pati babae kasama na ngayon.

so ibig sabihin ba you can add other subjects kahit hindi kasama sa curriculum? say, kunwari english major ka tapos you want to add a few units sa history puwede? or required din na dapat may electives? parang medyo complicated yung tanong ko no? :D kasi i find the system complicated too, pero challenging ha. :)

[JJM]

Originally posted by Thoma§
buti nga kayo konti lang, sa amin required yung fixed 24 units grrr. :mad: plus pa yang theology and rotc, pati babae kasama na ngayon.

Hi Thomas. I think the reason being, sobrang demanding ang every subject sa UP whether it is a 3-unit or a 5-unit subject. Every prof demands a mastery of his/her subject at wala silang paki kung magkasabay man ang mga exams mo, that is why a 15-unit load in a semester is the brim for a desirable workload. I can’t imagine having a 24-unit load in a semester. Pag meron kang 18 units in one semester, patay na ang social life mo nyan. 24? Patay ka na. :D


Originally posted by Thoma§
so ibig sabihin ba you can add other subjects kahit hindi kasama sa curriculum? say, kunwari english major ka tapos you want to add a few units sa history puwede? or required din na dapat may electives? parang medyo complicated yung tanong ko no? :D kasi i find the system complicated too, pero challenging ha. :)
Pwede if your adviser will allow you to take it. Normally, if your past grades were all okay, pwede. But if you have a drop, removal or fail, I’m afraid your adviser won’t allow you to take a subject that is not in your course syllabus.




OnT: Both schools do offer this program excellently. But, if I have that privilege to choose where to go (between UP and Ateneo) for Psychology, I will choose UP because it is a more reputable school and has a generally better alumni roaster in this particular field. It would also help that UP has an excellent medical school and my chances of getting admitted to UP-PGH is higher, should I decide to proceed to Med School later on.

[Thoma§]

originally posted by JJM
I can’t imagine having a 24-unit load in a semester. Pag meron kang 18 units in one semester, patay na ang social life mo nyan. 24? Patay ka na. :D
Hi. :D Actually totoo yang 24 units, tapos pagnagdodorm ako (sa loob ng university) puro madre at pare din ang nag-iikot, kaya dehins ka talaga mag-eenjoy, parang patay na bata ba :D Actually, yung 24 units is just the academics, wala pa diyan yung 1.5 unit ng PE and 1.5 ng ROTC (for your 1st year) sobrang ngaragan talaga, after 1 sem pa nga ako nakapanood ulit ng pelikula eh :D. my brother who studied in Pharmacy has 27 units pa nga eh. may subjects siya na 5 units (laboratory) almost every semester.

anyway, last post ko na ito, i was just asking kung bakit ang konti ng units, medyo napahaba ang usapan. :D

[tyanak_me]

At Diliman, a regular sem has between 15 and 18 units. You're considered overloaded with 21. In the summer, it's 8 units (so two 3-unit subjects is considered tops). I hear summer classes in other schools reach 9, sometimes even 12 units.

[smilewarrior]

Perhaps there are less units in UP because we're not required to take theology subjects (please corect me if I am wrong, i'm assuming that if you study at a catholic university, regardless of your course, your required to take religion subjects). On that note, does UP offer theology subjects( I honestly don't know)?

The most units I've taken during my undergrad days was 21 units. I can't imagine what it's like having to deal with 24 units of course work. Having only 16 or 18 units course work does not necessarily equate to a an easier academic life, just look at the students at the college of law.

As I've said, I know that both ateneo and UP are good schools for AB psychology.

[tyanak_me]

^^

From ateneo, right? We weren't required to take 12 units each of theo and philo and our other minor subject requirements are rather weak. I'm going to speak for science majors here and I swear our math, chemistry and physics loads are deadly.

In addition to the much-hated triumvirate mentioned above, we have tonnes of major subjects, some of them we're required to take as early as freshman year. That's one thing nice about UP. You have a lot of qualified professors who can offer courses way past DECs requirements.

[smilewarrior]

^^

Sorry if my previous post was confusing, but I can't be from Ateneo as Ateneo does not offer dentistry. I did get accepted at Ateneo, I just chose to go to UP instead.

[tyanak_me]

You're a dentist? Well, as my plastic surgeon likes to say, "If you have to go, go with a smile."

;)

[hart]

anybody have more opinions?

[eigenvector008]

hart

it's april 3, time is running out. you should decide now on which school to choose.

but i suggest that you go to UP so that you can widen your world that is restricted only between home and school.

try to meet new people. be "open to possibilities."

[urs2pid]

If you are intelligent and can afford it, go for the best. Go to Ateneo!

[aieka]

Originally posted by kungpow
If you want a holistic education, one that encompasses fields in the natural sciences, social sciences and humanities together with a substantial amount of units in psychology, go to Ateneo.

Otherwise, if you want more subjects related to your course, go to U.P.

I have three friends, sophomores, majoring in Psychology. One in DLSU, one in Ateneo and the last in U.P. During discussions pertaining to psychology, only my friends from DLSU and U.P. can understand each other. The reason? Because the DLSU and U.P. psych majors have already taken more psych units than the one from Ateneo who had only taken up an introductory course in psych.


hmm.. pero ang introductory psych course ay tini-take ng UP psych majors sa 1st year, 2nd sem pa. so basically, uhm.. yung bulk ng psych subjects ay makukuha mo pag 2nd year ka na (na i think is mej late na rin), which also has limits kasi they only allow up to 3 psych courses sa isang sem.

BA Psych program in UP has a lot of electives. ikaw pipili nun, whether you want to concentrate in business ad, sa educ, sa anthro, philo or polsci if you're a law wannabe, and heck, even French! (or pwede ring halo-halo). The curriculum also requires you to take units in math, chem, and bio, and philo and other GE courses (pero RGEP na nga pala).

research-oriented ang psych sa UP. halos bawat psych course may papers, may mini-papers, major papers. kaya nga walang thesis ang psych kasi along the way ang dami mo nang "thesis" na ginagawa. wala ring OJT.

and on the sides: masaya ang UPD psych department, aside from mahangin sa PHAn (psych majors have their own building. mwehe Ü), close talaga ang people sa dept, may good working relationship between teachers, staff, and students.

:D

[hart]

how bout sa Ateneo? What focus ng Psych program nila? Thanks.

[boogerflicker]

psychology is basically studying people. and you 'll have lots of practical applications in UP Diliman's collection of diverse and bizarre people.

[eigenvector008]

Originally posted by hart
how bout sa Ateneo? What focus ng Psych program nila? Thanks.

hart

you have to make up your mind.

ateneo's BS Psych is already closed.

more than the development in the field, ateneo also emphasizes formation. you will have jesuit teachers who are as good as your school's director or even better.

when it comes to standard and quality, you can never doubt ateneo's.

[Ultra_MegaStar]

Originally posted by hart
how bout sa Ateneo? What focus ng Psych program nila? Thanks.

I hope this helps in answering your question regarding the focus of Ateneo's pyschology program. This info came from Ateneo's website. I think the undergraduate degrees, while more general in scope, also tend to have the same focus as the postgraduate degrees.


ATENEO Department of Psychology - Degree Programs

PhD in Psychology, Major in Clinical Psychology

The Clinical Psychology program meets the twin imperatives of teaching students to engage in excellent clinical research and do effective and creative psychotherapy. Their development as clinicians is anchored on a solid foundation of psychological theory and research combined with training on sound and responsive clinical practice. The students’ research preparation trains them to contribute to basic and applied knowledge of clinical issues, and to critique and enhance the current models of understanding and delivering clinical services in the field.

The students’ professional preparation includes various areas of clinical practice such as: conducting accurate clinical assessment and diagnosis; providing effective psychotherapy; serving as expert witnesses in court for cases that require psychological expertise; doing advocacy work for government and non-government organizations; teaching and forming future counselors and psychotherapists; and educating the public on mental health issues through involvement in community outreach programs or the mass media.


PhD in Psychology, Major in Social Psychology

The Social Psychology program prepares students for advanced research/teaching on the behavior of individuals and groups in social and organizational settings. It equips them with skills for careers as scholars in academic and other research settings and entails areas of interest such as social changem political psychology, peace psychology, cultural psychology, community psychology, gender and enviornmental issues.


MA Major in Psychology, Concentration in Child and Family Developmemt

The Child and Family Development program equips the student with the theoretical and research foundations in normative child development and family relationships. It provides opportunities for students to develop more specific knowledge and competencies for working in applied fields such as early childhood education and child counseling. Thus, training in teaching, caring and assessing skilss in preschool environments, as well as research competencies in early childhood education are emphasized. The program also prepares students to address the issues and problems relating to adjustments of children, youth and families considered vulnerable and at risk. Students develop a range of skills which they can apply in work involving child/youth/family institutions and agencies, intervention program development and evaluation, community work or social policies.


MA Major in Psychology, Concentration in Counseling Psychology

The Counseling Psychology program emphasizes the wholistic formation of competent counseling psychologists who can help individuals and groups in a variety of settings. In particular, the program prepares students to work in the areas os psychological assessment and diagnosis, counseling/psychotherapy, and research. This is accomplished by providing knowledge through a wide array of courses in the dynamics of normal and abnormal human behavior, approaches to counseling/psychotherapy, skills in psychological testing and test evaluation, and research. Graduates of the program are able to work in the academe as teachers or guidance counselors, private clinical practice, industry, government and non-government agencies, and hospitals.


MA Major in Psychology, Concentration in Social and Community Psychology

The Social and Community Psychology program trains students to understand social issues using interpersonal/intergroup theories and research. Examples of such issues are peace and conflict, environment, gender, poverty, national development, governance and political change. Students learn to design and implement intervention in social systems, maximizing knowledge that is culturally embedded in local practices. Graduates may work in various academic, government and social development settings as teachers, researchers, trainors and human resource managers. The program is suited for students interested to pursue a career in government and non-government institutions.


MA Major in Psychology, Concentration Industrial-Organizational Psychology

The Industrial-Organizational Psychology program provides students with theoretical and research foundation on human behavior in the work setting. It develops relevant abilities needed to practice as a competent and socially responsible human resource professional. Students acquire scientific knowledge on human processes and dynamics at the individual, group and organizational levels. They develop skills in organizational diagnosis, assessment, interventions planning, implementation and evaluation of human resource management technologies for application in various settings. In addition, students learn the humanistic value orientation of attaining organizational effectiveness through improved quality of work life for employees. Graduates of the program are prepared to respond to issues and problems involving people at work by serving as consultants and change agents for business, industry, labor, public, academic, religious, community, and health organizations.

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[im_atheneo]

in no time, expect some Thomasians to include their Psychology program in this thread.

sana wag naman ganun, the thread title says it all na nga e

thank you

Blue *owl* ---> the King!

[juantwothree123]

I believe thomasians can butt in. kahit kulelat sila sa Ateneo at up. mas may karapatan naman kaysa sa iskul-bukol dun sa taft. ;)

[im_atheneo]

haha

i bet you've once again made their day!

Blue *owl* ---> the King!

[atenean_blooded]

If you can judge "the kind of ateneo psychology by means of this thread," and then conculde "it goes without saying that you will only grow to be mayabang wiht the kind of psychology ateneo offer (sic)."

If you use PinoyExchange as a basis for your decisions regarding your academic (and perhaps, professional) future, you...

1. don't just need a degree in psychology--you need a psychiatrist
2. should go back to high school and wallow in the pettiness there
3. perhaps shouldn't get a college degree yet

I'm sure Pexers like Victory and rabbadal will agree.

[im_atheneo]

hey, dont be too hard on the thomasian boy...

sigh, if only they could see the true picture

Blue *owl* ---> the King!

[coup_plotter]

Nyek...

BA Psych in UP Diliman is a quota course.

Hirap pumasok. they set limits to incoming freshie.
Honestly, UP Psychology is the BEST in the Phils.
the problem is the admission.

if u failed UP BA/BS Psych try ATENEO.

lolz.

[proscenium]

depende yan sa kung anong gusto mong maging pagkatapos mo gumraduate. if you want to take up law, it might be better to take up psych in UP, kasi maraming electives yun. matino naman ang psych sa UP, in general...but if you want to become part of a company's HR department, mejo mahina ang UP jan kasi walang HR subjects. :)

[2nd-in-Line]

^

despite that, most of those HR heads in big corporations are graduates of UP.

[toyo]

go to ateneo, magaling sila sa mga courses na blah blah blah... psychology, philosophy, law, business management, management engineering, etc. Guarranteed, basta blah blah, ateneo nah!

[coup_plotter]

Unibersidad ng Pilipinas!

[happyniccolo]

^ kindly read the title of this thread. please do. peace!

[Bazooka_Joe]

hey there happyniccolo

just pardon JupiterJives and choco_mouse.
they are ateneans. :D
you'll see their nicks and banned alternicks everywhere.
ingat dude, may sakit sa utak yang mga yan. :D

para hindi off-topic: Ateneo. magaling sila sa reverse psychology.

:blowsmoke:

[Wilma_Galvante]

UP. its an insult to all UPians kung icompare sila sa mga ateneans. :)