Mas sikat ba talaga UAAP sa NCAA? [Archive]

fill_me_pls

Sep 19, 2003, 09:42 PM

Yes the UAAP is more glamorous.

the BIG FOUR universities in the Philippines: The Ateneo, La Salle, UP, and UST, are members of this league.

maybe if arch rivals la salle and ateneo opted to stay in the NCAA, baka mas sikat pa ang liga nato kesa sa UAAP. but thats already history. but for now, the ncaa will always be second to the UAAP.

my .02. :D

boredtoday

Sep 19, 2003, 11:28 PM

do you really have to rub it in?

AltarBoy^_^

Sep 19, 2003, 11:37 PM

You can't blame 'em. Someone was asking a question and it just so happens that it is the truth. Live with it. Or pray to heaven that UAAP suffers from the lack of advertisers. :D

fill_me_pls

Sep 20, 2003, 12:09 AM

Originally posted by boredtoday
do you really have to rub it in?

no offense meant for ncaa fans, were talking here about popularity. and the UAAP is obviously more popular than the NCAA...even in provinces.

however, in terms of basketball intensity, i say they are equal. :D

JaMiEcRuZ

Sep 20, 2003, 12:49 AM

uhuh!!

nastrans

Sep 20, 2003, 08:38 AM

in terms of balance, siguro NCAA over UAAP

orangef1

Sep 20, 2003, 09:36 AM

mas nauna kasi i-televise ang uaap kaysa sa NC

marco3

Sep 20, 2003, 10:19 AM

UAAP has ATENEO, LA SALLE, UP, UST... these are the top schools in the country. No offense to NC member schools... but just go around the corporate world and who do you see on top of those corporations? graduates from those 4 schools... so, it's just logical that these guys would do their best to support their respective schools through sponsorships...

YFU'ER

Sep 21, 2003, 06:55 AM

Originally posted by AltarBoy^_^
You can't blame 'em. Someone was asking a question and it just so happens that it is the truth. Live with it. Or pray to heaven that UAAP suffers from the lack of advertisers. :D

Keep on dreaming! As long as the top managers of the big companies in the Philippines are graduates of UP, LaSalle and Ateneo they will be supporting the UAAP.

Pati ang mga media outlets, Lopez of ABS-CBN is an Atenean. If the buyout of GMA pushes through, Tony-boy Cojuangco is the current or past president of the Ateneo Alumni Association.

How successful is the UAAP? Even Sev Sarmenta doing the telecast people prefer to watch the UAAP and he is a die hard Atenean by way of Letran or SBC grade school. One of his students in Ateneo, Jude Turcuato has a very successful cable show concerning the UAAP. Sometimes, the NCAA games are not even mentioned in the papers but the UAAP is always mentioned. Even columnists weigh in with their personal comments like Jonelle So, Quinito Henson and others. Sorry, mga Atenista and LaSallians pala sila!

Get the point! :D

boredtoday

Sep 21, 2003, 09:02 AM

Originally posted by fill_me_pls
Yes the UAAP is more glamorous.

the BIG FOUR universities in the Philippines: The Ateneo, La Salle, UP, and UST, are members of this league.

maybe if arch rivals la salle and ateneo opted to stay in the NCAA, baka mas sikat pa ang liga nato kesa sa UAAP. but thats already history. but for now, the ncaa will always be second to the UAAP.

my .02. :D bakit kasama ust? duh. :rolleyes:

Yohei_Mito

Sep 21, 2003, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by marco3
UAAP has ATENEO, LA SALLE, UP, UST... these are the top schools in the country. No offense to NC member schools... but just go around the corporate world and who do you see on top of those corporations? graduates from those 4 schools... so, it's just logical that these guys would do their best to support their respective schools through sponsorships...

**** lang huh??? bka *** ibang grad ng schs na nabanggit mo eh grad din nung hs sa ncaa schools....sobrang bias lang ****

sir leon

Sep 21, 2003, 05:47 PM

Not all top managers of the corporate world came from those schools. Well, some became CEO not because they have the intellect to climb to the corporate world but mainly because it was merely inherited by them. Sadly, their parents did not graduate from the top 4 universities mentioned. Mostly, the pioneers in Philippine business also did not come from aforementioned schools. They came from china. Others became CEO because they became dummy for Marcos and ended up owning the firm when Marcos died. Other schools products also contributed a lot to Philippine business and politics. UP produced Marcos, Enrile, Salonga, Monsod and many more, Ateneo produced the pro spanish Rizal, Manglapus, and gordon, San Beda produced Mitra, Saguisag, Bobit Sanchez, and Raul Roco. West Point's Fidel Ramos, Macapagal from asssumption. And letran's aguinaldo, mabini, osmena, luna, quezon. and la salle's senator ralph recto - vilma santos' husband.

pip

Sep 21, 2003, 06:44 PM

Uaap ang popular for now, pero 2-3 more years ng tv exposure ncaa will catch up. and magagaling mga nakuha na rookies kaya gumanda yung laro sa ncaa. Good luck sa LC & SSC kme Sa SBC wait na naman next season.

Blue Knight

Sep 22, 2003, 03:41 AM

good point, sir leon.

YFU'ER

Sep 22, 2003, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by sir leon
Not all top managers of the corporate world came from those schools. Well, some became CEO not because they have the intellect to climb to the corporate world but mainly because it was merely inherited by them. Sadly, their parents did not graduate from the top 4 universities mentioned. Mostly, the pioneers in Philippine business also did not come from aforementioned schools. They came from china. Others became CEO because they became dummy for Marcos and ended up owning the firm when Marcos died. Other schools products also contributed a lot to Philippine business and politics. UP produced Marcos, Enrile, Salonga, Monsod and many more, Ateneo produced the pro spanish Rizal, Manglapus, and gordon, San Beda produced Mitra, Saguisag, Bobit Sanchez, and Raul Roco. West Point's Fidel Ramos, Macapagal from asssumption. And letran's aguinaldo, mabini, osmena, luna, quezon. and la salle's senator ralph recto - vilma santos' husband.

Yes, but where did they send their children or their childrens children to school?

comsite_boy

Sep 22, 2003, 09:54 AM

oo nga naman...kulang lang *** sa fund ***** and advertisements...

kung tutuusin,ateneo vs.lasalle lang ang malakas na game sa UAAP.malakas ang kita ng UAAP pag 2nd dalawang team na ito ang naglaro.....sa NCAA naman its LETRAN VS SAN BEDA

wala lang!

marco3

Sep 22, 2003, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by YFU'ER
Yes, but where did they send their children or their childrens children to school?

i'm a grad from an NCAA-member school but i have to admit YFU'ER is right...
But NCAA doesn't really have to follow the path of UAAP. it doesn't have to be glamorous. anyway, it's not about the glamour it's about the game. perhaps NCAA should just concentrate on developing the level of their games rather than on getting commercialized...

jerem

Sep 22, 2003, 03:38 PM

yes mas ok ang uaap sa ncaa. sa mga players na lang, sa mga cheerleaders, sa telecast , sa venue, sa graphics sa tv. lahat na yata ng maganda napunta sa kanila.tsaka *** mga students nila very supportive.wish ko lang maging tulad nila tayo.

typical_me

Sep 22, 2003, 03:41 PM

YEAH, ITS A GAME!

honestly, my school is a UAAP member pero my friend and I always watch NCAA games on tv and minsan LIVE- HANDSDOWN *** ng friend ko sa lahat ng teams ng NCAA. I was surprised how players and coaches unite, d students cheer with their respective skuls! Its more maka-MASA!

KAYA hayaan nyo na.. LETS JUST PLAY AND HAVE FUN!

PEACE...

jerem

Sep 22, 2003, 03:44 PM

uy si BAYANI "BF" FERNANDO galing ng mapua! isn't it great! he,he,he,he!:bomb:

agent_qpid

Sep 22, 2003, 03:58 PM

depende..

kung tatanungin mo yung mga tatay, nanay at mga lolo nyo mas sikat ang NCAA

pero kung yung mga Gen-X and Gen-Y UAAP naman.

Ganun lang yun..

Fortune

Sep 22, 2003, 06:28 PM

UAAP is more popular

but if you want "larong kanto" yung bara bara at may konting bugbugan players man o fans sa NCAA ka na

parang PBA is to UAAP
MBA is to NCAA

ok sana ang NCAA
pero magulo kaya hindi dinudumog ng advertisers
bad image kasi

parang di na naalis sa 70s era

Beka Lat

Sep 22, 2003, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by mHacE_9
ndi ****.... ***** mejo........ sobra kc *** pgppromote & ads about UAAP eh.......
agree!

_eMaYtEe_

Sep 22, 2003, 08:52 PM

yah! lagi na *** sila ang mga nasa ads en commercials porque university lang sila. kung tutuusin dapat NCAA mas sikat kc mas matagal sya kaysa UAAP. *** mga schools sa UAAP nsa NCAA dati nag tayo *** sila ng bagong league nung nagkaroon ng war 3 schools lang sila nun nakiapid n *** iba. mapua lagyan mo ng elementary pede na yan maging university... university of engineers kaso ang pangit d bah 8 yrs old ka pa *** HB pencil na gamit mo mag drawing ka *** t-square na pang guhit mo. dapat pantay lang yan!!!! or better yet, mas focused sila sa NCAA!

VIVA MAPUA!!!

_eMaYtEe_

Sep 22, 2003, 09:03 PM

hawak *** ng UAAP *** name na university un ***!! kung venue usapan magtayo kayo ng isa pang coliseum o bigay nyo sa NCAA *** araneta tignan *** natin kung alin na mas maganda! anywayz flexible namn kami ok *** un!

lasalleforever

Sep 22, 2003, 09:08 PM

syempre naman kahit sa member
schools kita naman na mas sikat
talaga ang UAAP.

pero dapat huwag magpapaiwan ang
ang NCAA.

maganda naman ang pag handle ng
studio 23 sa tv exposure ng NCAA.
so in due time sisikat din ng husto
ang NCAA.

sir leon

Sep 22, 2003, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by YFU'ER
Yes, but where did they send their children or their childrens children to school? I think its more of family tradition, I went to SBC because of my cousins, Abraham Mitra followed the footsteps of Ramon Mitra and graduated at SBC, Raul Roco's son went to SBC law but unfortunately bowed out after a year, Saguisag's sons went to SBC as well as Bobit Sanchez's son. The bagatsings also went to SBC. Quezon City has been administered by bedans; Mathay, Belmonte and soon Herbert Bautista. Well, if Im a Mapuan i will send my son to Mapua or If Letranite to Letran. If your from DLSU, Ateneo or UP then send your sons there. That is our God given choice.

Once upon a time, there was only one collegiate league in the Philippines and that was NCAA (1924), but because it became commercialized; UP, NU, and UST left to form the UAAP in the late 1930's leaving behind San Beda, Ateneo, DLSC, Letran, Mapua and JRC. The three left because of commercialization issues. Ateneo left because of personal games between San Beda in 1977, resulting into injuries and damages in properties during clashes at RMC and Araneta Col. DLSC left in 1983 because of Letran. But only gained UAAP membership after UST agreed to let them in sometime in 1986.

It is only in the Philippines that the Universities tend to disassociate from Colleges, although NCAA same as the US NCAA welcomes both Universities and Colleges alike. Well, its true that UAAP is given more publicity because of the size of member schools, but the fact remains that UAAP is an offspring of the NCAA and UAAP schools are welcome back to field their teams in the NCAA - for them to truly show what true sportsmanship is all about.

Yohei_Mito

Sep 22, 2003, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by Fortune
UAAP is more popular

but if you want "larong kanto" yung bara bara at may konting bugbugan players man o fans sa NCAA ka na

parang PBA is to UAAP
MBA is to NCAA

ok sana ang NCAA
pero magulo kaya hindi dinudumog ng advertisers
bad image kasi

parang di na naalis sa 70s era

di mo nmn maalis sa basketball ang maging magulo....

_eMaYtEe_

Sep 22, 2003, 10:17 PM

un!!! tanx SIR LEON un *** exact na nangyari *** nagkaron ng NCAA en UAAP. that's what im trying to say. it all started in NCAA. *** d tamang sabhin na " in due time" sisikat din ang NCAA. sumikat na ang NCAA, sikat na ang NCAA at, sisikat pa ang NCAA.

*** lang namn pinuputakte yang UAAP ng mga ads kasi university sila lam nila sila madatong *** mas mapapakinabangan pero 4 me mas maganda games sa NCAA seryoso!

Yohei_Mito

Sep 22, 2003, 10:21 PM

seryoso sa NCAA and balance ang teams :D

francis16

Sep 23, 2003, 08:45 AM

ok lang yan kc ilang taon ding sumikat ang ncaa. kc dati ang ncaa sa channel 13 & appetizer *** ng pba tapos ang uaap sa channel 4 naman.

cutealex_19

Sep 23, 2003, 08:55 AM

mas sikat **** ang uaap sa ncaa...
kahit na ncaa ang skul ko.. no offense ok.. just the fact...
sa laro plang ng uaap e parang gusto na nilang maglaro sa pbl agad... mas advertised ang uaap, meron din naman ang ncaa pero kokonti *** ****.. kung di pa magfafinals e d dudumog ang advertisers. sa ncaa naman kc d na nawala ang bad image, parang iniisip ng mga tao after ng game e may rambulan sa labas.. LALO NA PAG FINALS ANG LETRAN AND JRU. expect it! meron yan patago nga lang.. ateneo and lasalle proves that they are the best in uaap, mas exciting sila panoorin kc nga diba archrivals **** sila..
pero sana man *** maging patas na ang pagaadvertise ng games ng uaap and ncaa para walag discrimination..

peace!!!!! Aribba Letran!

chain_saw8

Sep 23, 2003, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by sir leon
Not all top managers of the corporate world came from those schools. Well, some became CEO not because they have the intellect to climb to the corporate world but mainly because it was merely inherited by them. Sadly, their parents did not graduate from the top 4 universities mentioned. Mostly, the pioneers in Philippine business also did not come from aforementioned schools. They came from china. Others became CEO because they became dummy for Marcos and ended up owning the firm when Marcos died. Other schools products also contributed a lot to Philippine business and politics. UP produced Marcos, Enrile, Salonga, Monsod and many more, Ateneo produced the pro spanish Rizal, Manglapus, and gordon, San Beda produced Mitra, Saguisag, Bobit Sanchez, and Raul Roco. West Point's Fidel Ramos, Macapagal from asssumption. And letran's aguinaldo, mabini, osmena, luna, quezon. and la salle's senator ralph recto - vilma santos' husband.

sa mapua... c BF bayani fernando....
and lahat ng naging secretary of DPWH....

_eMaYtEe_

Sep 23, 2003, 06:38 PM

nice one chain_saw!

diseased

Sep 23, 2003, 11:32 PM

uaap is more commercialized kaya mas sikat...
but when it comes to the intensity of the games pareho lang

ianth

Sep 24, 2003, 07:28 PM

uaap is more commercialized kaya i can say na mas sikat nga sya. pero kung gusto mo ng mas unpredictable na games, it's better to watch the ncaa

Lenny

Sep 24, 2003, 10:10 PM

Yes

_eMaYtEe_

Sep 24, 2003, 10:40 PM

Originally posted by ianth
uaap is more commercialized kaya i can say na mas sikat nga sya. pero kung gusto mo ng mas unpredictable na games, it's better to watch the ncaa

Yah! i agree! mas maganda games ng NCAA standings malulupit! ngayon pangalawa bukas *** ka na! *** every game sa NCAA importante d *** UAAP talagang kita mo na! mas marami daw kc sila makukuhang pera pag mas marami silang ilalagay na ads sa UAAP *** lumalabas mas sikat sila.

AltarBoy^_^

Sep 24, 2003, 10:52 PM

Glamour and prestige are not the only factors that make UAAP greater, its because they know they can get the right people for their teams and can give them a brighter future. But we should all commend the NCAA schools for trying to keep up with the times by getting quality players with less glamour and hopefully, not sacrificing their future after they rendered their services for their respective schools. Climbing up the professional basketball ranks is not an easy task, only a few are chosen to step up to the big league and the ironic part is that years and injuries are against them. Risky, yes. Profitable? Only for a decade or two, if you count a player's lifespan in a league. Games in the NCAA are as unpredictable as a player's lifespan. :smokin:

ganda_koh!

Sep 25, 2003, 08:54 AM

i think mas sikat lang *** school sa uaap pro it doesn't mean na mas sikat na *** uaap sa ncaa...

Shelly_rush

Sep 25, 2003, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by ianth
uaap is more commercialized kaya i can say na mas sikat nga sya. pero kung gusto mo ng mas unpredictable na games, it's better to watch the ncaa

Aight. PAgNC games hindi consistent yung nasa top kaya medyo suspense yung mga standings and results ng mga game. Sa UAAP nga predictable yung mga asa Top 4 kasi elims pa lang kita na agad yung nasa taas.

Advertisers opt to place ads in UAAP other an NC because the viewer share for UAAP is much higher compare to NC plus they're targetting the alumni of those schools.

orangef1

Sep 25, 2003, 09:19 AM

very boring ang UAAP

actually dalawang team lang naman ang naglalaban dun eh. You know who is it.

Yohei_Mito

Sep 25, 2003, 09:23 AM

korek!

FraGiLe_gaL

Sep 25, 2003, 03:44 PM

shempre UAAP. it's obvious, *** bang naive dito? budget palang noh. and besides, mas malalaking population ng mga schools na kasali sa UAAP. true rin na mas naunang i-televise sa studio 23 ang UAAP tsaka pansing ko lang, kapag finals ng NCAA, hindi masyadong mayunog compared sa finals ng UAAP. Maraming tv exposure pati sa mga commercials diba? and one more thing, mas maraming sponsors ang UAAP and ang games nila hindi sa Rizal ginaganap. minsan sa araneta pa! unlike sa NCAA, kapag opening lang sa araneta maybe because i've said earlier, mas malaki ang population ng schools na involved sa UAAP. kaya yun. pero i always watch NCAA games kasi dun ang letran. ahehe...

ARRIBA LETRAN:macho:

qtmartian

Sep 25, 2003, 10:46 PM

it's just that,, uaap,, we talk about "bigtime" universities and ncaa,, we talk about just colleges.. know what i mean?

Cromwell

Sep 26, 2003, 01:01 AM

Originally posted by boredtoday
bakit kasama ust? duh. :rolleyes:

Bakit naman di makakasama UST? Sa Asiaweek's Special Report on Best Universities in Asia eh 4 lang ang included sa Philippines UP, ADMU, DLSU at UST......ikaw san ka ba nag-aaral? wala lang natanong ko lang.......

MC21

Sep 26, 2003, 01:47 AM

Ncaa is more exciting and intense. The rakings of each teams this past season are so "tight". Look at the case of San Beda, they're way up the rankings on the first round, but unfortunately, never got a semifinals slot. Thanks to my Benilde.

And for Benilde, all I can say is that they're unpredictable. It’s so amazing to think that they almost swept the entire second round, after a winless first round. Kaya talaga nila!

And Lastly, I would like to congratulate Letran. All the while, I thought San Sebastian is the super team this past season, and surely, Letran's victory proved me wrong.

Basically, all teams are leveled. The game is more dangerous! And we like it. :)

Now, what I would like to see is the merger of the two collegiate leagues. Let the UAAP and NCAA unite! to break all forms of barriers, to prove who has the best sports programs. Basically. The possibility of this idea is very high, given the right time, and the right business opportunity. I really think that advertisers could capitalize on this merger.

Well, the more the merrier. This could raise the level of competition, fare distribution of opportunity and publicity.

Animo Benilde

MC21

Sep 26, 2003, 01:51 AM

Ncaa is more exciting and intense. The rakings of each teams this past season are so "tight". Look at the case of San Beda, they're way up the rankings on the first round, but unfortunately, never got a semifinals slot. Thanks to my Benilde.

And for Benilde, all I can say is that they're unpredictable. It’s so amazing to think that they almost swept the entire second round, after a winless first round. Kaya talaga nila!

I would like to congratulate Letran. All the while, I thought San Sebastian is the super team this past season, and surely, Letran's victory proved me wrong.

All teams are leveled. The game is more dangerous! And we like it. :)

Now, what I would like to see is the merger of the two collegiate leagues. Let the UAAP and NCAA unite! to break all forms of barriers, to prove who has the best sports programs. The possibility of this idea is very high, given the right time, and the right business opportunity. I really think that advertisers could capitalize on this merger.

As the saying goes, "the more the merrier". The merger could raise the level of competition, fare distribution of opportunity and publicity.

Animo Benilde

renvic

Sep 26, 2003, 02:11 AM

As far as i concern! Masmasarap manood ng UAAP than NCAA ngyn!!! Mas malakas kc ang UAAP players kaysa NCAA players ngyn.. Nde ka2lad dati... The 5 peat years of Baste... Kada may battle of the champions... Baste lagi ang nananalo... Palit nmn tayo ngyn... UAAP time nmn, tapos na *** time ng NCAA eh... Tapos nasa kanila pa ang big three school (Ateneo, U.P and La Salle)... So ano pa iaangal natin mga NCAA`ers...

boredtoday

Sep 26, 2003, 02:33 AM

Originally posted by Cromwell
Bakit naman di makakasama UST? Sa Asiaweek's Special Report on Best Universities in Asia eh 4 lang ang included sa Philippines UP, ADMU, DLSU at UST......ikaw san ka ba nag-aaral? wala lang natanong ko lang....... talaga? credible ba naman ang rankings ng asiaweek? sa balita ko hindi na nga nila tinutuloy ang ranking nila na yan dahil nga hindi sila credible!

Sa San Beda ako nag-aaral. May iba ka pang tanong?