BlackICE vs. Norton Internet Security 2000

[minimax]

Hello.

As a follow-up to my question on firewalls, which software do you prefer: BlackICE or Norton Internet Security 2000?

[torvix]

Hahaha!

Walang sasagot sa 'yo sa mga tanong na ganito. Yung isa eh tungkol sa port scanner.

Hacker ka ba?

[TNT2bluz]

I prefer black ice defender but I like the privacy features of Norton Security 2000 which was formerly Atguard.

[minimax]

Originally posted by torvix:
Hahaha!

Walang sasagot sa 'yo sa mga tanong na ganito. Yung isa eh tungkol sa port scanner.


I was just asking. No need to show off your stuff yet, Mr. Lamer. Salamat na lang sa pagsagot mo.

Originally posted by torvix:

Hacker ka ba?


That depends on your definition of a "hacker."



[This message has been edited by minimax (edited 09-05-2000).]

[cjgambit]

BlackIce Defender combines general firewall protection with excellent diagnostic tools but lacks the application-specific settings and ease of use of either ZoneAlarm or Norton Firewall. You're better off with either of those two programs.

Note that NIS2K comes with Norton Firewall so its hard to compare it with BlackIce since BlackIce is a firewall not a all-in-one Net security program like NIS2K.

Teka!! na-nuke ka na ba? at sa Internet Security ka naka-focus..?*nagtatanong lang*

[This message has been edited by cjgambit (edited 09-05-2000).]

[minimax]

thanks, cjgambit for the advice.

i just thought of installing a firewall as a precaution. =)

[leonitram]

Question please!
What does it mean by "nuke" in the internet? That's not an H-bomb I think.

[torvix]

Originally posted by minimax:
That depends on your definition of a "hacker."

[This message has been edited by minimax (edited 09-05-2000).]

Sorry, minimax.

[TNT2bluz]

Originally posted by leonitram:
Question please!
What does it mean by "nuke" in the internet? That's not an H-bomb I think.

getting nuked means that you've become a victim of a DOS attack (denial of service) wherein your ports are flooded with network requests until your computer buckles and shuts down

ICQ can be nuked using downloadable software. all you need is an IP address, and an open port to send 10,000 consecutive messages, if he or she's on broadband, their connection can survive, but how does a PC handle that many messages and iterations of "uh-oh" at one time?

DOS attacks can also happen by just flooding your connection with network requests to a point that you can send out a request of your own and receive responses because yourbandwidth is all choked up.

that's the skinny at least.

[minimax]

Originally posted by torvix:
Sorry, minimax.

Apology accepted.

[lonewolf]

la lang... anyone here tried zonealarm pro? i'm using it right now... no probs naman...

[torvix]

Sometimes, I wonder whether its money well spent when we buy these security products. I may rather be very very very vigilant in securing my servers rather than be confident with these firewalls around.

[torvix]

I recommend knowing your operating systems at heart, the ins and the outs, and how to secure them by not using firewalls. After this, you can install perhaps the cheapest but effective ones.

I am a really paranoid person and really see to it that my computers are secure, but hey. What the heck! Most of the attacks can fly right through the most secure firewalls in the universe.

An amateur programmer can write codes that can send a thousand simultaneous requests per second in a cgi program of a web server computer inside a firewall and thus one form of a DOS attack described by TNT.

Remember, we often hear of reports by hackers (not "crackers") that study firewalls about them penetrating some very very expensive firewall products. The sad part is that these reports are true.