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Ice Burn
Jul 19, 2003, 04:27 AM
A Microchip Makes Its Mark: VeriChip & the Beast (http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/news/020131a.asp)
By Dale Hurd CBN News Senior Reporter

Mark of the Beast or marvel of technology?

CBN.com - PALM BEACH, FL — Imagine having a microchip inside your body that would store your identity and important medical information, and might even tell people where you are. Is it a sign of the end times or simply a sign of progress?

Microchip technology is no longer just for Palm Pilots and cell phones, now people can store important information about themselves right beneath their skin. A chip about the size of a Tic Tac can carry up to six lines of text, readable with a scanner.

Science fiction has become reality. A Florida company plans to bring their new VeriChip to the market this year. It's a product that excites a lot of people, but worries many others.

"The VeriChip is an advanced, digital identification technology," explained Doctor Keith Bolton, the vice president and chief technology officer at Applied Digital Systems in Palm Beach, Florida. It will be the first company in the world to offer the microchip for insertion into humans.

"The first component is a very small microchip. The other component is a proprietary, patented, handheld scanner, that reads the information from the chip," Bolton said.

The initial use of the VeriChip will be to store personal identification or medical information, such as details about any implanted medical devices like pacemakers or artificial limbs, or any allergies to medication. In an emergency, it could save a life. Dr. Richard Seelig, medical advisor at Applied Digital, implanted a chip in his arm and his hip area a few months ago.

"Yes, it’s in my right forearm and there is no bump or anything that you can really see, and if you just gently pass your finger over it it's right in this area right here," Seelig demonstrated. "The technique just involves a little bit of local anesthetic into the skin, and just a slight amount of pressure... it takes about seven seconds to do, and that was that — wear a band-aid, that was the end of it."

The Jacobs family in Coral Springs, Florida would like to be the first family to receive the VeriChip. "I was watching the news with Derrick and there was a segment on the VeriChip, and he was so intrigued with the VeriChip. After it was over he stood up and said, ‘I want to be the first kid to have that chip implanted in me,’" said Leslie Jacobs.

"Everybody uses computers in their everyday life, and as people get more and more close to computers, people can't even live without computers for one day," Derrick said. "So I think it’s just another step closer in the evolution of man and technology."

But for Derrick’s dad, Jeff, who suffers from a number of medical challenges, the VeriChip could be a lifesaver. "They would know who to contact, they would know what medications I'm on, and it’s quite a few. They would know what I'm allergic to, what kind of operations I've had and where there might be problems. I can't wait to get it because it will make me feel so much more secure," Jeff said.

Future versions of embedded microchips could carry a person's full identification in place of I.D. cards that can be lost or stolen. That could put a dent in the growing problem of identity theft, and make the world a little safer.

"We would like to know for sure as best we can that the people in that cockpit of that airplane belong there and they are the right people, that people who work at nuclear power plants are the right people and they should be there," Seelig said.

Still more advanced versions of the microchip someday might be able to track a person’s location through a global positioning system [GPS].

Right now Applied Digital Solutions sells a separate system for tracking and monitoring called Digital Angel, which consists of a device similar to a wrist-watch and a module worn on the belt. It is marketed to the families of Alzheimer's patients because, as Bolton demonstrates, it can locate loved ones anywhere in the world, from any P.C. in the world.

"Pete is outside and he has the Digital Angel monitor on, and we're going to monitor his position from this Internet access P.C.," Bolton illustrated. "What we're showing here is he is on the corner of Coconut Grove and Royal Palm Way." And that is exactly where Pete was.

A GPS tracking device is currently too large to fit into the tiny VeriChip, but miniaturization is probably only a matter of time. Some believe a tracking device inside the body could deter kidnapping. "We've had six Latin American countries in here in just the last two weeks, and they are begging us to create an embedded integrated technology," Bolton said.

But the thought of being tracked and carrying vital information in the body makes a lot of people’s skin crawl. And it reminds some of a frightening prophecy in the Bible about the mark of the Beast.

Revelation 13 says the Beast will force everyone "to receive a mark on his right hand or forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the Beast or the number of his name... His number is 666."

Applied Digital has been attacked by some Christians for making what some fear is a prototype mark of the Beast. So does this chip, as it is now, have any relationship to the prophecy in the book of Revelation? CBN News asked Regent University professor Doctor Joseph Kickasola.

"My judgement is, no they do not," Kickasola said. "I think it's both illogical and unfair to make that assertion, and let me tell you why. I think the Bible clearly says the mark of the Beast is for buying and selling and that it is also coerced, it's government enforced. On the face of it, these microchips are for good purposes, like for medical records, like for lost children. They're not for buying or selling, as is described in the book of Revelation."

And Bolton stresses the VeriChip is voluntary. "We live in a free society," he said. "You can either elect to smoke [or not]. You can elect to have the VeriChip. So it’s a freedom of choice technology."

But what about a future in which everyone must take an embedded chip if they want to drive or work in secure environments? Kickasola stresses that any government coercion would collide with the First Amendment.

"Government cannot coerce us to speak," he said. "And a microchip speaks a lot, it has a lot of information in it. The one threshold in the Bible we must not pass is the threshold of coercion, whereby we have a state or federally enforced form of identification in our body."

The tiny VeriChip would seem to contain more than electronics: hope, fear, opportunity, some politics and perhaps a dash of theology. But it is another piece of technology that will likely become a part of everyday life.

Ice Burn
Jul 19, 2003, 04:34 AM
I'll never have this implanted. They may say it's for identification now and medical benefits but who knows what other extras it might contain. Who knows what other things they'll put in it? Tracking device? Self-destruct options?

Hexley
Jul 19, 2003, 08:04 AM
IceBurn,

ur "news article" (if you can call it that) is from the Christian Broadcasting Network. They've been to known to spread FUD (Fear Uncertainty & Doubt). If I recall correctly its founder endorsed the destruction of the "evil" followers Islam & that NutraSweet was cancerous. They're a Christian Extremist Group as bad as those Islamic Extremist Group. Yes they dont blow things up but they spread so much hate on the airwaves that you'd wonder if they're what they claim they are, Christians.

Ice Burn
Jul 19, 2003, 10:21 AM
here's the actual site for the chip

http://www.adsx.com/prodservpart/verichip.html

and here's the brochure for the verichip

http://www.adsx.com/investorrelations/pdfs/VeriBro.pdf

Yeah I know the previous article is from a Christian group but it doesn't change the fact that the verichip is now in circulation which will serve as a means of identification or worse...

Besides, with these microchips under your skin and the government being able to watch your every move...Hello big brother.

Hexley
Jul 19, 2003, 12:23 PM
Iceburn,

I think this post is more appropriate for Realm of Thought (http://207.44.234.62/~admin1/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=21).

We have little to fear or worry about this Verichip. If pinoys dont like the idea of a national ID system what more have them implanted with ID chips? Also the cost of such surgery and technology would be too much for the Philippines. According to this article (http://www.rednova.com/news/stories/3/2003/07/18/story001.html) the chip would cost $150 & a compulsary $50 annual fee. The scanning hardware & software would cost another $1200. We can't even modernize our election processess ito pa?

In the article it also mentions the other benefits it can give to users of the chip. A serial number identifying you could serve as a way for doctors to access your medical history in the event you get hurt so they know what is your current physical health and allergies are. For a person like me that would be wonderful as I am allergic to certain anestisia.

As for the tracking ppl with GPS I think it's a good idea. Imagine if you will you're a child of a rich merchant. You get kidnapped by the Abu Sayaff and as usual the PNP, NBI & Military have no idea where you are. They could simply get the code from the family and locate the you. This is a bit morbid but what the hey. In the event you didn't servive and your head, hand and feet were cut off they have a way to identify a rotting corpse.

VeriChip is ideal for communities or individuals who have the money to spend. Too bad the Philippines & most Pinoys cannot afford it.

As for the sign of the beast a lot of ppl (including CBN) claimed that the smartcard, cellphone, pagers, debit/credit/atm cards with magnetic tape was what the "prophecy" was speaking off. They event went as far as saying the Nazi swatstika IS the sign of the beast.

CBN's "article" is written for the superstitious, militia member, conspiracy nut, uneducated, anti-government, uninformed, technophobes, paranoid & blind followers in America. It is no better than an American tabloid.

Imagine if you will Brother Mike & other popular ministers making their own "news" network. It'll probably be like this.

For your reference check out articles compiled by Google News (http://news.google.com/news?q=verichip+&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=G&edition=). As of 820pm there are 48 legitimate articles talking abou the VeriChip.

kaningbrown
Jul 19, 2003, 05:21 PM
OMG... YOU GUYS ARE BLOODY *****s.
YOU ACTUALLY FELL FOR A GAG THAT IS A MORE THAN A YEAR OLD.

Here, visit where it all began

http://www.idchip.com/s1/idchip.htm

maybe you could get some sense out of this tomfoolery.
So its really true... people do fall for the most stupid of things... twice. Oh and yeah... in case you didnt figure it out, ITS A HOAX

So maybe if i release a site like this:

http://www.bigredhair.com/boilerplate

or this

http://www.bonsaikitten.com/

you'ld all bloody fall for it again

kaningbrown
Jul 19, 2003, 05:25 PM
Oh and yeah... THE SITE LOOKS REALLY COOL. SOMEWHAT REMINISCENT OF WHAT MY 4th grade BROTHER DID LAST YEAR FOR A PROJECT.

The maker of the site should think of something a lot more original dont you think? Suxxor.

Hexley
Jul 19, 2003, 05:41 PM
HEY MORON

READ WHAT WAS SAID & LINKED BEFORE YOU POST. It'll save you a lot of embarassment.

The Indian Times (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?msid=83101)
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/aptech_story.asp?category=1700&slug=Mexico%20Microchip)
Houston Chronicle (http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/business/2000147)
Business Wire (http://www.businesswire.com/cgi-bin/cb_headline.cgi?&story_file=bw.071703/231985299&directory=/google&header_file=header.htm&footer_file=)
Business Wire (http://www.businesswire.com/cgi-bin/cb_headline.cgi?&story_file=bw.071703/231985477&directory=/google&header_file=header.htm&footer_file=)
Wired News (http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,59676,00.html)
Business Wire (http://www.businesswire.com/cgi-bin/cb_headline.cgi?&story_file=bw.063003/231815690&directory=/google&header_file=header.htm&footer_file=)
Business Wire (http://www.businesswire.com/cgi-bin/cb_headline.cgi?&story_file=bw.070103/231825539&directory=/google&header_file=header.htm&footer_file=)
South Florida Business Journal (http://southflorida.bizjournals.com/southflorida/stories/2003/06/30/daily21.html)
The Register (http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/31461.html)
Europemedia (http://www.europemedia.net/showfeature.asp?ArticleID=16962)

Ice Burn
Jul 19, 2003, 07:46 PM
This is not a hoax you idiot. And Hexley was nice enough to post additional articles on this chip.

Besides, it is more commonly used these days in thoroughbred horses to prevent mixups and to track them in the event that they are stolen.

Hexley:

Since the chip is to be planted in your hand, what makes you think would kidnappers would not hesitate chopping off your hand? Or than again, an advanced form identity theft/ identity switching would occur since it is most likely that a number of these chips will be sold off the black market to people who would like to conceal their identity.

Tracking you, watching your every move. Freaky...

Yeah it's still a long way off for the Philippines thank goodness. But I'm in the US, so the moment they start making these chips mandatory, well, it's still a long way off but, still... I'd never have one implanted.

Hexley
Jul 19, 2003, 08:30 PM
Iceburn:

There are other places you could implant the chip other than the hand. Also how would the kidnappers know if you're implanted with the chip? Our kidnap rings are highly organized but unsophisticated. If they had the technical know how to detect such gadgets I wouldnt think they'd be in the trade. My dear, I think you've been watching too much TV & movies. Sure they can happen but it is highly unlikely.

As the other articles mentioned it is optional & the relevant government agencies would disallow the localized storage of personal information on the chip sans the ID code.

As for industrial applications it would do wonders with warehouse management. You'd know precisely where the chipped palets are and what it contains, expiration date, date of entry, supposed date of exit, the history of the palet, etc. It would revolutionize the supply chain management industry. I should know... I'm in it. ;)

As the CBN yarn mentioned forced chipping of people would be against there constitutional & human rights.

What I dont like about it is that I have to go under the knife. I hate surgery.

Ice Burn
Jul 19, 2003, 09:51 PM
hehehehe, been watching too much of that Spy show on Tech TV. The one that explains all these high tech gadgetry and actually shows them how it works. :lol:

But then again, if you see how easily they spy on people with all these tech thingies, what makes you think that they're not going to utilize the verichip for this purpose?

Hexley
Jul 20, 2003, 07:57 AM
Then dont live the lifestyle that calls for other ppl spying on you. ;)

If you can't take the heat then get out the kitchen. :)