economics?: up, admu, dlsu, ust?

[atrix]

when it comes to economics, which school is the best?
i am just interested, insights please.=)

[dekster]

This link (http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=99138) might help in answering your query.

[Exterminator]

To be safe, stick to the TWO TOWERS OF PHILIPPINE EDUCATION -- Ateneo and UP. You can't go wrong.

[archer_nemesis]

If you're really a serious student who's also ambitious, go to Ateneo or UP. Good faculty, intelligent fellow students, stimulating classroom discussions, tough exams, demanding standards..... These will stretch your abilities..........great learning environment and training for the future. On the other hand, if you're just average and want a more relaxing environment, these are not the right schools for you.

[Braveheart]

ang alam kong pinaka-magaling eh la salle at ust. mga grads nila ang bumabandera talaga eh.

[mac_bolan00]

trust 'ol chickenheart to crash a pair of airliners into the two towers. :lol:

[saywhat]

Of course, when it comes to Economics, you can never go wrong with UP.

They say University of Asia and the Pacific (UAP) is also good.

See HERE (http://www.uap.edu.ph/b_t_academic_sec.html)

[jtwothree]

UP is the best in Economics program, be it Business Econ or AB Economics. I don't need to explain 'coz most of the Pexers would agree with me.
Ateneo is far second. Good faculty.
Lasalle and UST are far third.
In Lasalle, AB and BS Economics are under one college whereas in UST, AB Economics in under Liberal Arts and BS Econ is under Commerce (I have a friend from UST-BS Econ).
But from what I heard, Lasalle is currently hiring Professors from STANFORD University to teach in theie Eco Programs. Hebigat!

[ebtg]

Ahem. The UP School of Economics has stopped offering an AB Economics course about two decades ago.

The UPSE has two undergraduate programs, BS Economics and BS Business Economics (offered jointly with the College of Business Administration). The institution is the sole Center of Excellence in Economics, according to CHED.

Its faculty and research output is "nationally unparalleled." Compare its faculty with that of other schools and note where they earned their Ph. D.'s.

http://www.econ.upd.edu.ph

[atrix]

im actually taking up eco in ateneo.
i asked the question coz i wanted to know how you people think about which school offers the best program in eco.

economics in ateneo is AB Eco, but it is also highly mathematical, making other people wonder why in the world EcO is an AB course alongisde courses such as Psychology and Comm.

I feel Eco in Ateneo is good, but i am not in the right position to say that is is the best in the Phils. UP Eco is a COE. I heard Admu Eco Dept is doing all it can to catch up with UP. As you can see , Eco in ATeneo has a great history such as Pres. Arroyo teaching in Ateneo for about a decade and producing good graduates who are now in high positions in their respective fields.

but honestly,
i think UP still ofers the best program, ateneo next, then dlsu.
i think no other school comes close as of the moment. ust and uap can be considered dark horses, also san beda.

[criticguy]

magshare nga para meron naman ako sense **. :D :D :D


seriously speaking,

here are the best list of the best Economist in the Philippines.

Juanito Remulla
Jose Fernandez
Lilia Clemente
Leonardo Sarao
Manolo Lopez

bout d topic, I think UP is the best becase they're the one who produced the best economist.


PEACE

[melloncollie]

UP pa din talaga. i'm not from UP pero i think UP is the best when it comes to economics.

next would be UAP.

yun lang.

[cHaSeR]

I think it would be UP, then De La Salle, then the Ateneo, and finally UST. But I believe UA&P has a good Industrial Economics program, if I'm not mistaken.

Though one must take into consideration the fact that the only way to make an unbiased judgment in this case is by one having had the pleasure of studying in all these schools at least during one point in his/her life.

Now, as a reply to what jtwothree said about La Salle economics, it is untrue that the BS and AB Economics programs are both under one college. In the contrary, the AB Economics course is under the College of Liberal Arts while the BS Applied Economics program is under the College of Business and Economics. Although they are part of two different colleges, both programs are under the Economics Department of De La Salle University. The subjects, but more importantly the electives, being taken by AB Economics majors are very much different from those being taken by BS Applied Economics students.

Just wanted to clarify that...:D

[Lek-Lek]

I think it's got to be UP-D, ADMU, DLSU, then UA&P.

[mac_bolan00]

Originally posted by criticguy
here are the best list of the best Economist in the Philippines.

Juanito Remulla
Jose Fernandez
Lilia Clemente
Leonardo Sarao
Manolo Lopez

where'd you get this? i see at least two people here whe were NEVER PRACTICING ECONOMISTS but rather, they distiguished themselves in the industry and gov't service.

the mark of a really good economist is one who cranks out lots of meaningful research work and figures prominently in international journals and conferences. by this, i don't mean some bald-headed opus dei guy who writes in familiar english just to satisfy ignorant makati executives.

[AgnasKa]

i've worked with econ grads from up, dlsu, ust, ua&p and ateneo. magagaling mga grads ng up, ust, la salle. medyo na-disappoint ako sa mga taga-ateneo. hindi sila maka-deliver sa mga research namin. pansin ko rin na pumapalya sila sa finance.

u&ap, ok lang, may laban din.

[victory]

Originally posted by mac_bolan00
the mark of a really good economist is one who cranks out lots of meaningful research work and figures prominently in international journals and conferences. by this, i don't mean some bald-headed opus dei guy who writes in familiar english just to satisfy ignorant makati executives.

Nice one, mac. :glee:

[sandwave]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ebtg

The UPSE has two undergraduate programs, BS Economics and BS Business Economics (offered jointly with the College of Business Administration). The institution is the sole Center of Excellence in Economics, according to CHED.

That's right. UPSE faculty is definitely top caliber, they have the best of both worlds--research-wise and field-experience wise. Most of our books and publications on Philippine economics (models/ theories) are written by them, and most if not all of them are actively involved in consultancy work which keeps them grounded in the real world (applications). The SE library (the largest next to the main library, i think) provides complete research materials and several economic journals. Weekly symposia/ seminars are held concerning current issues or newly published journals, that are attended by both faculty and students.

So there, UP's economics program can only be the best!

(by the way, im a UP bus econ grad heheh)

[haberdasher]

what's ur basis again as to which school is the best in the field of economics?

we can always assume that these schools are the best, having top calibre faculty ek ek ... eh how come pag nasa "corporate" world na sila, nangangapa na ....

[gobbledygook]

Why not visit the UP Forum site and check it out yourself? It's WWW.PEYUPS.COM. I suggest that ateneans visit the site as well for some enlightenment. UP students don't even consider you guys as their toughest competitor nowadays. tsk..tsk..

[sum1]

ang isang magandang way to compare graduates is through contests. kasi dito mo malalaman kung sino mas maraming alam o hindi. from a wide variety naman ang mga tanong sa mga contests, ang problema lang walang matinong contest ng economics sa pilipinas.

yung nearest is yung jpes na economics contest. kaso medyo mahirap i-gauge kung sinong magaling. up madalas ang nananalo sa contest na to (up ecosoc), seconded by either la salle or ateneo (la salle last year). kaso hindi natin pwedeng sabihin na up nga ang pinakamagaling kasi yung ibang org sa up (obem and i forgot the other one) sobrang baba ang mga scores. contest talaga to ng mga members ng jpes, hindi magandang venue para i-rank ang mga universities.

sana lang, magkaroon ng isang talagang contest for all economics students, siguro funded by pes, kaso includes all universities, hindi mga jpes members lang.

[criticguy]

Originally posted by mac_bolan00

where'd you get this? i see at least two people here whe were NEVER PRACTICING ECONOMISTS but rather, they distiguished themselves in the industry and gov't service.

the mark of a really good economist is one who cranks out lots of meaningful research work and figures prominently in international journals and conferences. by this, i don't mean some bald-headed opus dei guy who writes in familiar english just to satisfy ignorant makati executives.

from my Father who is an ecnomist, a businessman and a lawyer.


hmmm... mali yata akala mo.

:lol: :lol: :lo:

PEACE

[kakaenes]

ateneo and a numbers-heavy course?
save the user, jail the pusher.

[mac_bolan00]

Originally posted by criticguy


from my Father who is an ecnomist, a businessman and a lawyer.


hmmm... mali yata akala mo.

:lol: :lol: :lo:

PEACE
maybe. but i know SCORES OF PRACTICING ECONOMISTS, all of whom are at PhD level.

[Econ_major]

I think I would like to clarify what one pexer said. AB Economics and BS Applied Economics DOES NOT BELONG IN THE SAME COLLEGE HERE IN DE LA SALLE UNIVERSITY. AB economics is under the College of Liberal Arts and BS Applied economics is under the College of Business and economics. The College of Education also has a BSed major in Economics program.

I'm currently taking up Economics here and I'm quite sure to say that my profs are good and the curriculum of economics here in dlsu is one of the best that ive seen. Ateneo's economics program is the only one who has come close to DLSU's econ program.

[atrix]

just want to tell that in the recent Junior Phil Econ Society Eco Quiz bee held in DLSU-Taft yesterday, UP and Ateneo won in the individual and team category event respectively.

maybe, this can be a sign that UP and Ateneo are the two best eco schools in the country today.

DLSU was second and third in the individual and team category respectively, quite a nice showing as well.

12 different orgs from UP, UPLB, DLSU-M, Dlsu-D, UST, NEU, PLM, ADMU, San Beda joined the competition.

[archer_nemesis]

Originally posted by atrix
just want to tell that in the recent Junior Phil Econ Society Eco Quiz bee held in DLSU-Taft yesterday, UP and Ateneo won in the individual and team category event respectively.

maybe, this can be a sign that UP and Ateneo are the two best eco schools in the country today.

DLSU was second and third in the individual and team category respectively, quite a nice showing as well.

12 different orgs from UP, UPLB, DLSU-M, Dlsu-D, UST, NEU, PLM, ADMU, San Beda joined the competition.

It's not just a sign. It's a fact.

As I said before, you can't go wrong with the twin towers of Philippine education - Ateneo and UP.

It's proven time and again. The "market" is the best judge of the best schools -- the "market" being the top H.S. students.

It's not a coincidence why the best and brightest students tend to go to the Ateneo and UP. In general, the best schools attract the best students. (Although, admittedly there are flukes as well. That's why you find a few bright students wandering in the Malate area once in a while as if they died and ended up in "limbo" land. Thank God they are a rare sight though.):D

[MissDaisy]

CONGRATS to Ateneo and UP. You're really the best.

[atenista_comn]

archer_nemesis and Exterminator are one and the same...
pathetic taenean... how many other nicks do you have?
for someone who constantly complains about the number of students in dlsu, you seem to believe that numbers do count.

pathetic taenean...

[ebtg]

Ateneo's win was a little controversial. Apparently, their contestant for the individual category was also part of their team. At any rate, congratulations. Until proven otherwise, you deserve it.

Congratulations to Sarah Daway, representing the Economics Society of the UP School of Economics, for winning the individual category.

[FRIEDBLUEEAGLE]

Originally posted by atenista_comn
archer_nemesis and Exterminator are one and the same...
pathetic taenean... how many other nicks do you have?
for someone who constantly complains about the number of students in dlsu, you seem to believe that numbers do count.

pathetic taenean...

Oh that explains why they both don't know the difference between the color black and the color blue!

:lol: :ladiesman: :lol:

[criticguy]

Originally posted by FRIEDBLUEEAGLE


Oh that explains why they both don't know the difference between the color black and the color blue!

:lol: :ladiesman: :lol:

the difference???

black is your favorite color.

blue is archer_nemesis' favorite color. bwahahahahaha.

idol , bago yang "smilies" mo. ang ganda!

gayahin ko nga.

:lol: :ladiesman: :lol:

PEACE

[atrix]

Originally posted by ebtg
Ateneo's win was a little controversial. Apparently, their contestant for the individual category was also part of their team. At any rate, congratulations. Until proven otherwise, you deserve it.

Congratulations to Sarah Daway, representing the Economics Society of the UP School of Economics, for winning the individual category.

Regarding that, we asked the officers of JPES if we can use our individual contestant for the team too, and they said yes. That is allowed.

Peace.
Congrats to the winner of the individual category -=)

[dekster]

darn... that's rather disappointing news for me... oh well...

any info on who the members of the dlsu team were?

anyway... congrats to UP and ateneo...

[sum1]

atrix, pwede pala yun haha.

anong place ng ibang up teams (aside from ecosoc)? mababa ba?
nakakapagtaka talaga, every year ecosoc nananalo tapos yung mga iba super baba na.

[stanley]

Originally posted by atrix
just want to tell that in the recent Junior Phil Econ Society Eco Quiz bee held in DLSU-Taft yesterday, UP and Ateneo won in the individual and team category event respectively.

maybe, this can be a sign that UP and Ateneo are the two best eco schools in the country today.

DLSU was second and third in the individual and team category respectively, quite a nice showing as well.

12 different orgs from UP, UPLB, DLSU-M, Dlsu-D, UST, NEU, PLM, ADMU, San Beda joined the competition.

Did UST send contestants to that EcoKNOWmics quiz bee? Our preliminary exams started last saturday and I thought our org had not sent any... just a question though...

[sandwave]

Originally posted by sum1
atrix, pwede pala yun haha.

anong place ng ibang up teams (aside from ecosoc)? mababa ba?
nakakapagtaka talaga, every year ecosoc nananalo tapos yung mga iba super baba na.


di naman...during our time (2000), UP ETC won 1st, UP OBEM 2nd. Talagang magagaling mga econ orgs from UP :)

[atrix]

Originally posted by sum1
atrix, pwede pala yun haha.

anong place ng ibang up teams (aside from ecosoc)? mababa ba?
nakakapagtaka talaga, every year ecosoc nananalo tapos yung mga iba super baba na.

im not sure but i think the other up orgs did not fair well. they did not place in the top 3 for the indi and the team, only up ecosoc. uplb's contestant for the indi won third, however.

i think ust also sent their reps, ust aes and ecosoc.....

[riza_arnaud]

I've got a question: how many units in total (majors lang po) of Economics do you guys have in your uni? I'm just curious... And what are the courses in that program? :) Thanks in advance! It's basically the same, right? :)

Best in Economics? Let's face it: + one vote for UP :) But that doesn't mean other schools are not as competent. Pag hindi nyo kasi alam yung environment ng school ng iba... you criticize right away. :)

Peace

[dekster]

Originally posted by riza_arnaud
I've got a question: how many units in total (majors lang po) of Economics do you guys have in your uni? I'm just curious... And what are the courses in that program? :) Thanks in advance! It's basically the same, right? :)

Peace

The AB econ program at Lasalle consists of 12 3-unit subjects namely: intermediate microecon, interm. macroecon, economic stats, int'l econ, dev't econ, econometrics, mathematical econ, public finance, econ research 1 and 2 (thesis) and finally, two free econ electives such as monetary theory, labor econ etc...

The main difference between then AB and BS program lies in the electives where the BS program has mostly business specific econ classes. Also, the BS applied econ program has at least 3 units of operations research which is considered a major.

[ebtg]

THE LONG-WINDED ANSWER: The core economics subjects which every Econ major in the School of Economics in Diliman is required to take up include:

Econ 11: Markets & the State (i.e. Introductory Economics)
Econ 101: Macroeconomics
Econ 102: Microeconomics
Econ 106: Elements of Mathematical Economics
Econ 131: Quantitative Economics
Econ 199: Undergraduate Thesis

Each student is also required to take 5 3-unit economics electives. Some of these electives are:

Econ 121: Monetary Economics
Econ 141: International Economicss
Econ 151: Public Economics
Econ 153: Project Evaluation
Econ 161: Industrial Organization
Econ 181: Labor Economics
Econ 191: Development Economics

Above are the most commonly offered courses every semester. Other electives that have been recently offered are Agricultural Economics (Econ 171) and Resource and Environmental Economics (Econ 172). Occasionally, Econ 198 (Special Topics in Economics) have been taught and these are, well, special topics. These include, but are not limited to: Economics of Regulation, Law & Economics, Economics of Governance and Game Theory.

Those are common to both B.S. Economics and B.S. Business Economics students of the School of Economics. The difference lies in the free electives of both courses. 14 3-unit electives are available to the former (which can range from language electives to Sociology to as far as Community Development) while only 2 3-unit electives can be taken up by a BSBE student. The other 12 courses are converted into Business Administration subjects such as Finance, Marketing, Management and Accounting.

THE QUICK ANSWER: Economics students in the UPSE are required to take 36 units of major subjects.

[Braveheart]

that's interesting, ebtg.

sa UST, eto naman...

BS Economics

ECO 1. Elementary Economics w/ Land Reform and Cooperative
ECO 2 Advanced Economics
ECO 3 Macroeconomics Theories and Problems
ECO 4. Microeconomics Theories and Problems
ECO 5. History of Economic Thought
ECO 6. Statistics for Economics (with Computer Applications)
ECO 7. Econometrics (w/ Computer Applications)
ECO 8. Economic Development
ECO 9. Public Sector Economics
ECO 10. Business Finance, Money and Banking
ECO 11 Agricultural Economics
ECO 13 International Economics
ECO 17 Economic Research I
ECO 12 Managerial Economics
ECO 14 Labor Economics
ECO 15. Economics of International Finance
ECO 16 Mathematical Economics
ECO 18 Economic Research 2 and Project Feasibility Study

AB Economics

ECO 101A Basic Economics/College Algebra
ECO 201 Business Management
ECO 1201 Philippine Economic History
ECO 8 History of Economic Thoughts
ECO 3101 Statistics for Economists
ECO 3102 Macroeconomics
ECO 3201 Microeconomics
ECO 3B Econometrics
ECO 3203 Money and Banking
ECO 4101 Agro. Indus. Economics
ECO 6 International Economics
ECO 4103 Urban and Regional Economics
ECO 4104 Environmental Economics
ECO 4201 Public Sector Economics
ECO 4202 Current Economic Problem
ECO 4203 Finance Marketing Analysis
ECO 4204 Managerial Economics
ECO 4205 Economic Development
ECO 4206 Political Economic
ECE 525 Practicum/ Project Study

sana, post din ang sa la salle, u&ap at ateneo. :)

[atrix]

required subjects:

Ec 102- Basic Economics, Taxation & Agrarian Reform
Ec 111- Intermediate Microeconomic Theory
Ec 112- Intermediate Macroeconomic Theory
Ec 115- Introduction to Mathematical Economics
Ec 116- Statistics for Economists
Ec 117- Introduction to Econometrics
Ec 121- Development Economics
Ec 171- Economic Research I
Ec 177- Theory and Practice of Social Development

each student needs to take up three eco electives, some of which are:

-International Finance
-Introduction to Information Economics
-Economics of Money and Banking
-Economics of Natural Resources and Environment
-NGO's in the Philippine Economy
-Rural Development
-History of Economics
-International Economics

[riza_arnaud]

dekster, ebtg, Braveheart, atrix Thanks for your posts! :) So far we've got DLSU, UP, UST, and ADMU. I'm taking Economics at dlsu and I'm just thinking if there is any difference between the courses offered. More please? Pansin ko medyo iba *** sa dlsu eh... o nagkakatalo lang sa names? And their nature is just the same? Para kasing ang dami sa iba eh... Or are they just choices for electives?

What about Graduate Studies? Could anyone post some information on that? Especially in UP ebtg? Thanks!

I've noticed fights rooting again so let's just continue the "normal" and "uninterrupted" flow of discussion here please. :)

[stanley]

I think there have been some changes in the BS ECONOMICS curriculum of UST because we are already taking up Mathematical Economics this semester... :confused:

[RECORDER]

The 4 schools excel in economics, I must agree to that one. But since I belong to UST, (arts and letters) I think the AB eco of UST is good. Some of the faculty members were my professors.

[qwert]

Originally posted by jtwothree
UP is the best in Economics program, be it Business Econ or AB Economics. I don't need to explain 'coz most of the Pexers would agree with me.
Ateneo is far second. Good faculty.
Lasalle and UST are far third.
In Lasalle, AB and BS Economics are under one college whereas in UST, AB Economics in under Liberal Arts and BS Econ is under Commerce (I have a friend from UST-BS Econ).
But from what I heard, Lasalle is currently hiring Professors from STANFORD University to teach in theie Eco Programs. Hebigat!

AB and BS eco in la salle are not under one college. the ab program is still under the college of liberal arts while the bs program is under cbe. although this speaks only for our batch.(id 101) i think sa id 103 pareho nang nasa college of business.
and yes la salle has profs that took up their masters and doctoral degrees from stanford. and even yale. dr tullao and dr. intal are just some of the profs who came from those schools.

[stanley]

there are also UST professors who took up their masters/Phd degrees in esteemed schools in Europe...

:D

[dhines]

what's best about UP school of economics is the flexibility of curriculum and the freedom of students to choose their subjects. i don't know if this still holds true though...

i was supposed to be an octoberian but i deferred my thesis 'coz i still didn't want to graduate. i took up mandarin instead. on the next,i took up my thesis, investment management (a BA course), international economics (my 6th econ elective), and international marketing (a BA course)

[dingclancy23]

so we have a clear winner here.. and i agree...

you could never go wrong with upse......

[palikpik]

Originally posted by RECORDER
The 4 schools excel in economics, I must agree to that one. But since I belong to UST, (arts and letters) I think the AB eco of UST is good.

very sound logic. sure you aren't a philo major?

[reyna_elena]

forte yan ng DLSU-Manila. kaya La Salle university.

rankings ko.

1. DLSU - Manila
2. Ateneo
3. UP - Diliman
4. UST

:)

[dingclancy23]

pero di ibig sabihin na "forte" niyo yun e mas magaling na kayo sa ateneo/up sa economics.........

and up is the lone center of excellence in this field

[jason_s]

In addition to dingclancy23, those who take up Economics in other schools are those who did not make it in the UPCAT, ma DLSU o ma ADMU pa yan. Magtanong-tanong ka sa mga kaklase mo, lahat sila bumagsak sa UPCAT.





UP Fight!

[ErwinRafael]

not true. i know a couple of studes who chose to study in another school even after passing the UPCAT.

don't let that UPCAT get into your head, Jason. it's just one exam.

anyway, i am planning to take a Master's Degree in Economics in UP after finish my MBA in FEU. kailangan bang mag-enroll muna ako ng mga Math courses? highest math kasi na nakuha ko ay introduction to calculus.

[gwapo_atenista]

ATENEO AND UP-DILIMAN!

DLSU has no chance in hell.

[atrix]

Originally posted by jason_s
In addition to dingclancy23, those who take up Economics in other schools are those who did not make it in the UPCAT, ma DLSU o ma ADMU pa yan. Magtanong-tanong ka sa mga kaklase mo, lahat sila bumagsak sa UPCAT.





UP Fight!

talaga lang ha. im taking up economics in ateneo, and i passed the upcat. jason, ang laki talaga ng problema mo. get a life.

[jason_s]

Originally posted by atrix
talaga lang ha. im taking up economics in ateneo, and i passed the upcat. jason, ang laki talaga ng problema mo. get a life.
Are you trying to tell me that you passed Economics in Diliman but you turned it down and instead took the same course in the "other" school?

One big bull$hit!

[charlie_g]

Oo nga. sinong niloloko nyang atrix na yan? parang suicide yang ginawa mo atrix.

kalokohan!

[jason_s]

Opps... no more bashing please.

[atrix]

Originally posted by jason_s
Are you trying to tell me that you passed Economics in Diliman but you turned it down and instead took the same course in the "other" school?

One big bull$hit!

yup. maybe because i had the money, and dont want to be an activist?

[Braveheart]

:wave: atrix, kelan ba ang inter-university econ quiz contest?

at 'wag mo na lang pansinin 'yung mga kabobohan, ka-estupidahan at kalandian ng iba riyan. :)

[atrix]

Originally posted by Braveheart
:wave: atrix, kelan ba ang inter-university econ quiz contest?

at 'wag mo na lang pansinin 'yung mga kabobohan, ka-estupidahan at kalandian ng iba riyan. :)

i think sa january pa yung junior phil eco society quiz bee. wherein up and admu are the defending champs. =)

[palikpik]

Originally posted by atrix
i think sa january pa yung junior phil eco society quiz bee. wherein up and admu are the defending champs. =)

so there...

[maxterspade12ph]

if you graduated in DLSU-economics, natural na may "edge" ka dahil ang top businessmen ay galing sa dlsu..

[horned_01]

Big deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ang dami pa ngang dapat gawin sa free elective namin na put*ng inang psych na yan!!!!!


pero, hindi na talaga dapat itanggi na UP ang pinakamahusay sa larangan ng economics....

at siyempre nandoon si mareng winnie.
at tatalino pa ng kaklase ko. gaya ni tesa......

[jtwothree]

i believe ok ang curriculum ng Ateneo, up-diliman and ust.

ok din naman ang lasale e. may edge ka, lalu na kung Lasallian ang employer. Yun ang maganda sa LaSale's program. priority ka ng LaSallian employers, kahit utak-Feati o PCU ka ka pa.

peace

[stanley]

grrrrr... too bad I couldn't join the YEC convention this year.

:(

[Aquinatis]

UST has a good Economics program. Be it AB or BSC.

I Believe UP's and Ateneo's are also equally good.

Ewan ko lang yun sa DLSU... siguro naman OK din.

[dekster]

what happened ba sa young economists convention this year?? was there a thread posted about this? :)

[stanley]

I would really have participated in the YEC if it weren't for my toxic schedule for this month. The topic for this year was very informative since some speakers talked about the Parliamentary System and stuff like that. Mukhang mas masaya ngayon yata eh. May interaction na among the participants unlike last year. But the food during the recent convention wasn't as satisfactory as last year's daw. hehehe...

who won the best undergraduate thesis award?

[prinsipe_bubwit]

no one.

[VjSophie]

hi everyone! i attended the Young Economists Convention last friday and saturday. The topics were indeed very interesting. 2 Thumbs up for Professor Patalinghug of UP who discussed the topic of fiscal federalism in the said event. I think he's great ( btw, am from Lasalle , i love my profs for they are great, but there is something different about sir patalinghug , medyo laid back ang aura na super smart ). UP won the best undergraduate thesis award, it has something to do with the OFW's earnings..Lasalle grabbed 2nd and 4th place :) Well for me , UP is regarded as the institution that offers the best economics education, but La Salle also has got a brilliant set of faculty members ( even experts in their own respective field like trade and education ). :) I can say I'm proud to be a DLSU B.s. Economics student because I really get to learn alot. :)

[prinsipe_bubwit]

epectitus patalinhug is the man!

[dekster]

Originally posted by VjSophie
hi everyone! i attended the Young Economists Convention last friday and saturday. The topics were indeed very interesting. 2 Thumbs up for Professor Patalinghug of UP who discussed the topic of fiscal federalism in the said event. I think he's great ( btw, am from Lasalle , i love my profs for they are great, but there is something different about sir patalinghug , medyo laid back ang aura na super smart ). UP won the best undergraduate thesis award, it has something to do with the OFW's earnings..Lasalle grabbed 2nd and 4th place :) Well for me , UP is regarded as the institution that offers the best economics education, but La Salle also has got a brilliant set of faculty members ( even experts in their own respective field like trade and education ). :) I can say I'm proud to be a DLSU B.s. Economics student because I really get to learn alot. :)

I'm glad to hear that the YEC is being continued. :) Thought it stopped after the one I participated in back in Feb 2002 cos I never heard about it again.

I was a little tampo before cos it seemed that the results of the competition wasn't really talked about much pero ok lang. We still bagged the trophy. We tied for first place with UPLB's entry and I must admit that I was so impresseed with her topic (simulation of corruption or something like that).

What month did the 2nd YEC take place in? Who won the best thesis? :)

Anyway, sana makabalik saatin ulit yung award next year!! :D

[mac_bolan00]

Originally posted by NorthernFACE
VjSophie, andun din me sa convention. i'm from ateneo, btw. grabe, ang galing talaga ng mga taga peyups, no? hands down talaga me sa kanila. di pa naman ata professor si patalinghug. instructor lang ata o mali lang dinig ko?
his nickname is ling-ling or pataling-ling but we usually call him nixao (from "the gods must be crazy" ---spitting image).
anyway, dr. ling-ling is a full professor at the college of bus. admn. and at one time director of the DBA program. he was my teacher during MBA for microecon. according to my brother who's an economist, his real forte is industrial institutions. and his knowledge is international.

[VjSophie]

mac_bolan00 : woah!!! he really impressed alot of people in the conference. I myself was entranced by his wisdom and intellect. :) He's got this really laid-back aura, parang ok lang kausapin mo the whole day! I think Prof. Emmanuel De Dios was also brilliant, and was called "Paul Krugman of the Philippines.". But Dr. Ponciano Intal, my own prof, is my idol as well :) Brainy brainy brainy :)

dekster : it was held last January 23 and 24 at CSB Angelo King Hotel :) UP bagged the best thesis awards, which has something to do with OFW earnings. :)

NorthernFace : from ADMU? I pressume that you were in the workshop wherein UP students were the ones who presented ? I think in fairness, you should have seen the Lasallians present in the other workshop about Fiscal Decentralization. I enjoyed the workshop for I got to listen to alot of views by different people. It kinda surprised me when the groups presented their own resolutions, halos parepareho lang. And they said that economists had very different views. We might just be confined to textbook setting, i hope not...

[mac_bolan00]

Originally posted by VjSophie
I think Prof. Emmanuel De Dios was also brilliant, and was called "Paul Krugman of the Philippines.".
you got that right. according to the PhD-level economists i know, manny de dios is the very best at the UPSE, heir apparent to the late dean encarnacion. the other really good people there are medalla and fabella.

[neutrogena]

Originally posted by atrix
im actually taking up eco in ateneo.
i asked the question coz i wanted to know how you people think about which school offers the best program in eco.

economics in ateneo is AB Eco, but it is also highly mathematical, making other people wonder why in the world EcO is an AB course alongisde courses such as Psychology and Comm.

I feel Eco in Ateneo is good, but i am not in the right position to say that is is the best in the Phils. UP Eco is a COE. I heard Admu Eco Dept is doing all it can to catch up with UP. As you can see , Eco in ATeneo has a great history such as Pres. Arroyo teaching in Ateneo for about a decade and producing good graduates who are now in high positions in their respective fields.

but honestly,
i think UP still ofers the best program, ateneo next, then dlsu.
i think no other school comes close as of the moment. ust and uap can be considered dark horses, also san beda.

atrix. econ is supposed be mathematical. why is it in the ARTS colleges/faculties of universities with psychology and the likes? kasi economics is foremost a social science. i hope they taught u that in ateneo.

baka sabihin nyong biased ako. but having to attend different conferences of different universities, meet different economics majors, siguro naman there's some truth to what i say.

in terms of economics teaching, i could always say la salle, ateneo and up are almost equal.

mabigat ang faculty ng up. true. come to think of it, it's the state university. research-wise good. kaso in terms of quality, it might be just the same.

case in point. for the past how many years. true up wins the jpes ecoknowmics award. ang second place palipat-lipat lang sa ateneo at la salle (2002, la salle, 2003, ateneo ata). though if you think of it, merong 3 teams ang up sa contest. and usually ang 2 teams na yun would place way below. (sa 2002 i think yung 2 other teams ng up placed lower than schools we normally don't view as "equals").

so maybe for teaching, pare-pareho lang talaga. output ng mga students (researches) ng mga ito comparable naman.

though only the up school of econ could offer a ph.d program in economics kasi nga sila yung merong malaking faculty talaga.

ua&p, medyo i doubt this university produces really good students. as far as i've heard (correct me if this is true), for their undergrad level, they take econometrics while they are doing their theses, which for me is mali. kasi econometrics is supposed to be a tool for your research; how can you make good research if you don't know which statistical tool to use yet right? meron din silang ladderised program na after 1 year me masters ka na. i believe master's level course should be at the masters level. period. their advanced microeconomics class is like sooo undergraduate in nature. (i've finished my masters degree already, abroad).

ust. i've read researches by ust people. and frankly, they know their s*it, but they don't know how to expand it further, with the use of econometrics. sayang lang.

for other schools. nakakaawa talaga. i remember once sa YEC, a school in manila sent its representative (rationally, this rep should be the best they could give right?). now, her research was soooo bad that after many people started to question her method (i was one of them, knowing her topic very well, mali sobrang ang model nya), she started crying. ngek.

:eek:

walang measure sa teaching economics kasi for student achievement (like board exams etc) so mahirap ang ched magdistinguish who is upto standards. so sana ang pes could work with ched to penalise schools which offer economics programs that wouldn't be upto a certain standard. case in point again. i've seen the syllabus of an intermediate micro of a school that offers a bs econ degree. guess what the book is? while the whole world uses varian as a standard text, this school uses samuelson (which if you read his preface, it's an introductory econ book). for intermediate macro, they use case and fair. double ngek.

[pio_valenz]

Originally posted by mac_bolan00
you got that right. according to the PhD-level economists i know, manny de dios is the very best at the UPSE, heir apparent to the late dean encarnacion. the other really good people there are medalla and fabella.

He was my prof in Econ 11 many years ago. He wasn't as well-known yet at that time but he had a way of keeping his students attentive.

Not an easy task if you're conducting a class at SE's auditorium.

[ebtg]

In terms of innate and brilliant economic intuition, the best minds in the School of Economics are (in decreasing order) Medalla, Monsod and de Dios.

[ebtg]

As for the best undergraduate thesis at the YEC, it was also awarded the Gerardo P. Sicat Award in the School of Economics as the First Best Undergraduate Thesis in 2003. "The Contribution of OFW Remittances to Income Inequality: A Decomposition Analysis" by Nico Masulit Ravanilla and Joseph de Pano Robleza. It, together with the Second Best is available for download at http://www.econ.upd.edu.ph/students/sicat.htm.

For a look at the level of output we produce at the School and how extremely divorced it is from the average of other institutions, you may also look at "Price Adjustments and Asymmetry in the Philippine Retail Gasoline Market" by John Michael Ian Sioson Salas, which won the First Best Undergraduate Thesis in 2002. It was published as "Asymmetric Price Adjustments in a Deregulated Gasoline Market" in the Philippine Review of Economics, Volume XXXIX, No. 1, June 2002.

I don't see why this debate should continue. It is clear, from where I stand, which economics school is the best in this god-forsaken country.

[prinsipe_bubwit]

the debate is never over for ust.

[dekster]

Originally posted by neutrogena
for other schools. nakakaawa talaga. i remember once sa YEC, a school in manila sent its representative (rationally, this rep should be the best they could give right?). now, her research was soooo bad that after many people started to question her method (i was one of them, knowing her topic very well, mali sobrang ang model nya), she started crying. ngek.

:eek:



I think I was also there for this one but I can't recall the topic. Was this the one from an exclusive girls school on taft?

[kundera_tan]

Originally posted by ebtg
As for the best undergraduate thesis at the YEC, it was also awarded the Gerardo P. Sicat Award in the School of Economics as the First Best Undergraduate Thesis in 2003. "The Contribution of OFW Remittances to Income Inequality: A Decomposition Analysis" by Nico Masulit Ravanilla and Joseph de Pano Robleza. It, together with the Second Best is available for download at http://www.econ.upd.edu.ph/students/sicat.htm.

For a look at the level of output we produce at the School and how extremely divorced it is from the average of other institutions, you may also look at "Price Adjustments and Asymmetry in the Philippine Retail Gasoline Market" by John Michael Ian Sioson Salas, which won the First Best Undergraduate Thesis in 2002. It was published as "Asymmetric Price Adjustments in a Deregulated Gasoline Market" in the Philippine Review of Economics, Volume XXXIX, No. 1, June 2002.

I don't see why this debate should continue. It is clear, from where I stand, which economics school is the best in this god-forsaken country.

I could not agree more. I'm a third year econ major in UPSE, and I really have no doubt with the capabilities of my school. Everything in UPSE is a test (ala starstruck). The exams are so hard, especially those by ma'am Carlos..... (I remember my 101).
We also have to maintain a GWA of 2.5 (i.e 70/100) every semester...... kung 'di mo ma-attain un, goodbye econ.... isa pa, we also have to pass both econ 106 (mathematical econ) and econ 131 (quantitative econ aka econometrocs) in our junior year. kund 'di, bye-bye econ........ haaaay...... misana nga gusto ko nang mag-quit.

[atrix]

ATENEO & UA&P DOMINATE JPEZ QUIZ BEE

In the annual JPES EcoKnowMics Quiz Bee held last Saturday at the UP School of Economics, Ateneo and UA&P bested other schools in the individual and group category respectively...

Here are the competetion results:

Individual:

Ist- Ateneo
2nd- UA&P
3rd- DLSU

Group

1st-UA&P
2nd- UA&P team 2
3rd- Ateneo

Congarts to Ateneo and UA&P!
Suprisingly,UP faired poorly.....

[mickey_ratt]

wasn't ust invited?

[kundera_tan]

the quiz bee asked factual questions....
walang analysis....
anyways, congrats sa mga nanalo.

[jj9527]

one contest wouldnt qualify as a category for a school to be named the best.

josko naman.

obviously UP SE is the best. ALL tenured faculty members (except winnie monsod--who finished but did not defend her dissertation because she got married then got pregnant) have PhDs. Everybody has extensive pioneering research and extension work here and abroad. And the student selectivity as well as retention rate will easily defeat the other schools.

And Academic Freedom---in other schools kahit dika magaling o kahit bagsak ka pwede lakarin basta malakas ka sa pari. In UP you can finish with honors kahit makipagsigawan ka sa isang prof.

[closet_cute]

LA SALLE and UP lang.

ateneo and ust are good too.

[atrix]

Originally posted by jj9527
one contest wouldnt qualify as a category for a school to be named the best.

josko naman.

obviously UP SE is the best. ALL tenured faculty members (except winnie monsod--who finished but did not defend her dissertation because she got married then got pregnant) have PhDs. Everybody has extensive pioneering research and extension work here and abroad. And the student selectivity as well as retention rate will easily defeat the other schools.

And Academic Freedom---in other schools kahit dika magaling o kahit bagsak ka pwede lakarin basta malakas ka sa pari. In UP you can finish with honors kahit makipagsigawan ka sa isang prof.

sungit ha, hehe.
kayo naman, sinasabi ko lang yung result ng contest, napaka-defensive niyo na. hehe. enjoy life!

peace=)

[halikhikk]

if by economics you mean pagtitipid, ust na yan!

[stanley]

in terms of laity, an animal is just like you.

[halikhikk]

ahihihi!

[tigra_fire]

Nagpaalam ka pa

[Thoma§]

Originally posted by halikhikk
ahihihi!
*peace* :yum:

[Cyberspace_law]

Originally posted by halikhikk
if by economics you mean pagtitipid, ust na yan!

tipid-tipiran! :p

[halikhikk]

i take it back. mahal nga pala ang tuition sa ust.

ahihihi.

[greenman]

kundera_tan,

Are you from UP Economics? Maybe you know my friend Donald Ngwe? Second year standing nya ngayon sa Diliman. Personal ko siyang kakilala way back from our high schools days at La Salle Greenhills. He was rumored to have aced (top 1) the UPCAT during his time. He was btw, the class valedictorian of the class 2002.

Kumusta naman ang scholastic standing nya dyan? Dean's List ba?

[dekster]

you know its quite ironic that here we are trying to figure out who's the best in economics but there's another thread in the academe asking about utility and consumer preferences (microeconomics) and no one's been able to answer it so far hehe...

I admit I'm very rusty on the topic now but perhaps someone who isn't could help him/her? ;)

[moira]

if you want to take economics seriously as a career and take a PhD and all, go to either ateneo or up. apply for the economics-honors program if you can in admu.

if you feel like say, you want to be more of an accountant, go to lasalle. i hear good stuff from some acquaintances i've met about their applied eco with accountancy degree. if ever i went to lasalle, that would have been my course.

[paralusi]

Originally posted by NorthernFACE
i am a 1st yr student of the ateneo majoring econ. i'm flattered that you consider our econ already on UP's level but the sad truth is, it is not yet there. i'm confident though that our econ is way better than la salle or ua&p's. i'm going to transfer to UP next school year if i'll pass their entrance exam for transfer application.
mababa ang retention rate dito sa ateneo. in my batch (class of 2007), from the original 100 students in 1st sem, 1st year, maybe only 60 students or lesser will move on to the 2nd year level. he rest sisipain palabas ng school or kailangan mag shift to polsci or IS, mamimili nalang sila. :D ako, i'm happy 3.87 average ko kasi medyo madali pa ang 1st year dito and i will take my current average para matangap ako sa UP Econ. Not that I don't like the econ here in the Ateneo is just that, i like UP's econ more. punyetang UPCAT lang kasi yan. hindi ako tinangap last year. sana okay this year. i'm hoping this time. :)

i just don't remember people from ateneo calling the economics programs "econ."

[muchomuchacho]

Maybe he's not from Ateneo at all.:lol: Oh well buking na naman.

[Kimberly Jones]

Top-tier Philippine schools in Economics: Ateneo and UP

Second-tier: UA&P and DLSU

[kusanagi12]

I dont think I am in a position to say which eco program is best since I only had the opportunity to enroll in one school.. hehe =)

Anyhu, a lot of schools have outstanding professors, outstanding subjects, outstanding graduates and a separate program for the arts side and the business applications side. Each eco program of ANY school is unique on an individual-perspective basis. Too many factors. We should also consider the relatively different basic preferences and utility levels (satisfaction levels, for non-eco people) of each individual.

What I can only tell you are what the DLSU eco program has to offer.... (somewhat objective recap for people who are still confused)

(1) Double Degree program. Com-Com or Lia-Com. Learn more in a relativley less amount of time.

(2) Trimester system. More units in a year.

The differences are more of a double-edged sword. Do you think you can absorb everything in a fast-forward pace? Do you think the coverage is extensive? Do you think you can meet the deadlines, projects, quizzes, exams in both degrees? Do you think you still have time for other activities?

To end, if an international academic standard is what you are looking for, then, by all means, consider looking up an international foreign body that has the evaluation standard most simlar to yours.

*Note: author up Applied Economics-Marketing in DLSU with above average grades. Bragging rights? Nope. Someone else will always be better. Just plain and simple credibility..

[VjSophie]

IMHO, i think DLSU is included in the top-tier schools. I'm quite confident about the school's standards. :)

[kundera_tan]

Originally posted by greenman
kundera_tan,

Are you from UP Economics? Maybe you know my friend Donald Ngwe? Second year standing nya ngayon sa Diliman. Personal ko siyang kakilala way back from our high schools days at La Salle Greenhills. He was rumored to have aced (top 1) the UPCAT during his time. He was btw, the class valedictorian of the class 2002.

Kumusta naman ang scholastic standing nya dyan? Dean's List ba?


donald is one of my orgmates in UP Ecosoc......
sabay kami nag econ 11...pero ahead ako ng i year sa kanya...
third yeard standing na kasi ako...siya 2nd pa lang.
consisitent university scholar yata siya.... (a grade of 1.5 or better) yes, he's an oblation scholar..i just don't know if he was able to mantain it....

[JJM]

naks naman. sikat pala si donald pati dito sa pex.
kilala ko din siya by acquaintance but i never knew he was the valedictorian of La Salle greenhills. Bigatin pala si tong Donald.

Eh, si Michael Jamias kilala nyo rin ba? Valedictorian din daw siya ng La Salle greenhills last year. He is a BAA major and a member of JPIA. Lahat daw ng grades nun flat 1. kaka-ingit talaga yung mga galing la salle greenhills.

[voltaire_mad]

Just an honest question from a person whose not familiar with economics. You all say that this school or that school has the best economics program, or these 2 schools are the 2 towers, or these schools are the high tiered schools, and why the hell does our dear old mother land, the Philippines, has a sorry excuse for an economy? Does this mean that these schools produce the best "economists" that the Philippines has to offer? Tsk tsk. Please answer honestly.

[WeAreThePExers]

A very good question. :shrug:

[Introvert_S]

why, who has the last say? the teachers? the economists?

[kundera_tan]

Originally posted by voltaire_mad
Just an honest question from a person whose not familiar with economics. You all say that this school or that school has the best economics program, or these 2 schools are the 2 towers, or these schools are the high tiered schools, and why the hell does our dear old mother land, the Philippines, has a sorry excuse for an economy? Does this mean that these schools produce the best "economists" that the Philippines has to offer? Tsk tsk. Please answer honestly.

:rolleyes:

wala ka nga talagang alam sa econ....:(
gusto ko sanang sagutin tanong mo pero huwag na lang....
tatalino ka pa...

[atrix]

Originally posted by kundera_tan
:rolleyes:

wala ka nga talagang alam sa econ....:(
gusto ko sanang sagutin tanong mo pero huwag na lang....
tatalino ka pa...

you're totally missing the point.
a country doesn't rely on economics alone.
kaya nga may government, ngo's,civil societies,church, etc.

all of these factors contribute to the entirety of a nation.

parang mo na rin sinabi na ang up at ateneo law,walang kwenta,dahil masama ang image ng judiciary system dito sa atin.

[rodentor]

Originally posted by voltaire_mad
Just an honest question from a person whose not familiar with economics. You all say that this school or that school has the best economics program, or these 2 schools are the 2 towers, or these schools are the high tiered schools, and why the hell does our dear old mother land, the Philippines, has a sorry excuse for an economy? Does this mean that these schools produce the best "economists" that the Philippines has to offer? Tsk tsk. Please answer honestly.

may i ask which school you come from?

[mac_bolan00]

one dinner at behrouz says voltaire is either a management or accounting craduate. :D

[Ischaramoochie]

hmmm. how's the food there?

[rodentor]

you'll like it there.

there's brain there.

[Ischaramoochie]

really? haven't tried it yet. Ox Brain at Mr Kabab sounds good though.

[kusanagi12]

Im afraid I have to agree with voltaire_mad. The country does have poor governance..

As for the programs, students and teachers, there are soo many factors. Why doesnt a sound eco program ensure success..

(1) Some top economists are not too patriotic. They prefer to venture elsewhere due to working conditions, salary, etc. Sad but true.. Example. If your tuition is x amount for one sem, and your salary in the Philippines is, say the same amount for one year.. Extremes but you get the point..

(2) Other economic strategies. Economic strategies are somewhat a chess game. There are many ways to attack a problem. You also have to consider of the strategies of other countries that may affect your initial srategy.

(3) Do not assume equilibrium. All economic strategies are dynamic. The problem, the solution and the approach is not the same 100% of the time.

(4) Conflicting theories. I have mentioned about having different solutions to one problem. The conflict may lie within a team where economists cannot reach an agreement about the optimal solution.

(5) External Factors. Herding behavior, Information Assymetry (for non-economists, unequal information distribution among levels), etc. may lead to fluctuations in rates, differences in perceptions, valuation, etc. that may be beyond the expectations of an economist.

The list goes on and on and on. These are to name a few. Am i saying there is no hope? Not necessarily. This is the dilemma. The government points to the people for the lack of funding (tax evasion, shortcut here, shortcut there) to do anything significant but the people points to the government for not doing anything and depleting the funds (corruption, red tape, padrino system, etc.). It is a cycle of mistrust..

[stanley]

so which dya think should be done first, changing the government or chaning ourselves??
:looking:

[greenman]

It must be UP and DLSU.
If Poe will win, this is what he'll do:
Take note, mga tiga UP, DLSU lang ang mga kasali.




Among the experts tapped by Poe's camp are Raul Fabella, dean of the School of Economics of the University of the Philippines (UP), and Bernardo Villegas, a Harvard University-trained economics professor now with the University of Asia and the Pacific.

Raul Pangalanan, dean of the UP College of Law and doctor of laws, Harvard University, and Victor Andres Manhit, former education undersecretary and now professor of Political Science at De La Salle University (DLSU) were also named to the circle of advisers.

According to Escudero, it was the Koalisyon ng Nagkakaisang Pilipino (KNP) presidential candidate who sought the help of these experts.

Poe unveiled his team of advisers at a time when the peso has fallen against the dollar, government debt has suffered a ratings downgrade and the stock market has become volatile.

His poor background in education and his silence on his economic platform compounded fears of businessmen about his lack of experience in managing the country's affairs.

But Escudero brushed aside these concerns, saying, "These distinguished personalities, coming from the academe, the business community, the labor sector and NGOs, all share a common vision -- that of a better Philippines. It is a vision that guides the campaign of Mr. Poe."

'A-team'

Other members of the team the KNP described as "intelligent, experienced, pragmatic and patriotic" are Ponciano Intal Jr. (Angelo King Institute for Economics and Business Studies; Ph.D., Yale University), Calixto Chikiamco (columnist and political economist), Epicetus Patalinhug (professor, UP School of Business Administration) and Romy Bernardo (former finance undersecretary and director of the Asian Development Bank).

The rest of the economic advisers are Benjamin Espiritu (chair, Business and Governance Department of DLSU, Graduate School of Business), Vic Macalincag (former finance undersecretary), Ben Marcelino (professor of Economics, San Beda College), Manny Dannug (dean of College of Economics, Finance and Political Science, Polytechnic University of the Philippines) and Leo Gonzales (professor, Agricultural Economics, UP Los Baños; international agriculture economist).

In the area of governance, Poe has sought the help of Francisco Magno (professor of Political Science, DLSU), Julio Teehankee (professor of Political Science, DLSU), Joel Mangahas (professor of Governance, UP-National College of Public Administration and Governance), Danny Reyes (professor of Governance, UP-National College of Public Administration and Governance) and Allen Surla (professor of Urban Planning, DLSU).

Renato de Castro, a professor of International Relations at DLSU and chair of International Studies, was included in the team to advise him on international relations and security

[greenman]

Originally posted by FaGoTomato
Hahaha :lol: Nice logic. How Lasallian? Poe's credibility must be improving.
well, my statement wasn't definitetive, so don't fret. however, if you take into account the famous people in economics whom FPJ's camp have considered the best to consult with or to lead, then it would be UP and DLSU.


Peace.

[VjSophie]

Im from dlsu and i have asked my professor to verify or explain their side why they were on the list on FPJ's a-team. A renowned economist , and professor in dlsu who belongs in that list didn't actually AGREE to be on FPJ's team. He didn't make any promise. Some people were included in the list without confirming their "yes".

[kusanagi12]

stanley.. the funny thing is it is best (optimal, hehe) to have changes simultanously. Since it is a deadlock, trust should work both ways. It is safe to say that there is a history of mistrust. If both does not start trusting each other, there is no incentive for any party to start doing things in good faith.

vjsophie.. heard about that through classmates lang. just wanna confirm.. you were referring to Intal, right?

[rodentor]

ateneo, up, la salle.

then uap.

nothing follows. thanks!

[narra_tree]

grabe yung thesis ng mga taga la salle, ang daming grammatical error.

[sagala_queen]

my gosh! this pathetic taenean has a new nick!

[egAd]

ust now has improved their curriculum in economics

they have now included the concept of the break even point

good for them

[HARE]

You don't have to spend too much money to study economics.

The best thing to do is that, if you didn't pass UP, go to UST, study economics, perform well,if possible graduate with honors.

[egAd]

Originally posted by HARE
go to UST, study economics, perform well,if possible graduate with honors.

this is a very very big possibility if you are in ust

[Bandido]

^^ bago daw nick mo para makaiwas ka sa isang pexer???? totoo ba ito.....

[Coño Guy]

just study at UP Econ, and meet the best economist of the country today, sir emmanuel de dios. teaches also 4 languages while teaching us economic history. hehe. :D

[coup_plotter]

Originally posted by ebtg
Ahem. The UP School of Economics has stopped offering an AB Economics course about two decades ago.

The UPSE has two undergraduate programs, BS Economics and BS Business Economics (offered jointly with the College of Business Administration). The institution is the sole Center of Excellence in Economics, according to CHED.

Its faculty and research output is "nationally unparalleled." Compare its faculty with that of other schools and note where they earned their Ph. D.'s.

http://www.econ.upd.edu.ph

UP School of Economics is the sole Center of Excellence of CHED for ECONOMICS!!! KUDOS to UPSE!

[yuchengcoo]

it's up and admu.

[cretinous00]

I want to know how the UPSE managed to acquire its status as the best SE in southeast asia. I know the late Dean Joe Encarnacion was highly respected in the US and in some European countries.

[medokhil]

UP lang !

Bakit palaging sinasali ang UST as one of the options, pwede ba ?

[Coño Guy]

Originally posted by cretinous00
I want to know how the UPSE managed to acquire its status as the best SE in southeast asia. I know the late Dean Joe Encarnacion was highly respected in the US and in some European countries.

In 1999, it has been named as the sole center of excellence in economics in the philippines. The school has been overachieveing since the time of the late dean jose encarnacion. even visiting professors come here to teach at the fabled school. Why? It has the best faculty in terms of academic achievement. Around 90% of the faculty have PhDs with the exception of maam monsod, sir alonzo, maam navarro, and the instructors. (highest in the UP System) In order to teach at UP Econ, or just study the PhD program, you have to be invited by the school. Just to be an instructor, you have to have and MA from the school. and basically, more than 2.0 average in your econ subjects.

We have three Professor Emireti in the name of Edita Tan, first woman economist in the country to get the PhD from UC Berkeley, Dr. Sicat who has a PhD in Massachusets Intitute of Technology and Dr. Onofre Corpuz, PhD from Harvard University.

the school has high standards in accepting undergrad students, like most of us graduated this year are cum laude and up (around 40 kami out of 90 grads). high ang standars, kaya nga daw half of us that enter the college end up shifting in other courses.

the school also has one of the best libraries for research in economics in southeast asia, because they are one of the most updated with respect to journals. The intellect of the school doesnt decline because the profs are recquired to present discussion papers and dissertations every year.

They say nagmumulto pa daw si dean encarnacion sa third floor. anyways, to continue, it is the only school of economics recognized by the other PhD school givings in the US and Europe. You are highly recognized if you study in the states and they learn you are from UP Econ. Sayang nga c sir alonzo, dissertation lang kulang niya sa University of Chicago, the school that most profs receive the nobel prize for economics. Si ma'am monsod, PhD candidate din from University of Pennsylvania, an Ivy League member.

Entering the school is one thing, surviving it is another. grabe ang inabot ko kay ma'am carlos nung econ 101 ko, halos himatayin ako sa exam, that was my very first 5 1/2 hour exam and i got 29.275 out of 60. i got 2.5 in my final grade sa kanya. haha.

I think that beside the faculty, quality of students is also a factor. luckily, most grads of the school get fat paying jobs here (yipee).

The school supports scholarships and fellowships of great students. they really are the best in policy making. although may pagkabiased din sila **** sa capitalist western side economics. Only sir de dios has enough understanding of the othere side of the spectrum. may pagka elitista din minsan.

some of my profs:

Dr. Carlos- Econ 101
Dr. Quimbo - Econ 102, 191, 131
Carlos Tan - Econ 131
Dr. De Dios - Econ 109

Even other schools of asia are elibs sa econ. sadly, the policies they recommend to the government are never endorsed. but they are trying their best to serve the country. Perks of being an econ student in UP:

1. aircon lahat ng classroom
2. may tagabura ng blackboard
3. maganda ang upuan at mesa
4. maganda ang tambayan, may tv pa
5. sarap matulog sa lib

[yuchengcoo]

Originally posted by medokhil
UP lang !

Bakit palaging sinasali ang UST as one of the options, pwede ba ?


ouch.:D

[Cyberspace_law]

UP and UST

[Cyberspace_law]

lalo na mga taeneans! sensya na

[Bazooka_Joe]

Originally posted by yuchengcoo
ouch.:D

why ouch? you're from what school? :D

:blowsmoke:

[egAd]

Originally posted by medokhil
UP lang !

Bakit palaging sinasali ang UST as one of the options, pwede ba ?

hayaan mo na

it's the oldest naman e

[ustTHEbest]

UP AT UST LANG!!!!

[intensity1214]

UST
then
la salle
then up-diliman (puede na)

wala na.

:)

[happyniccolo]

whoah!* roll eyes*

[UranusUses]

Originally posted by intensity1214
UST
then
la salle
then up-diliman (puede na)

wala na.

:)

deranged thinking

[kundera_tan]

I'll be doing my thesis (BS ECON;UPSE) this sem..under prof. alburo....
i wanted maam bautista kaya lang ubos na slots. Grr.

[grun]

Originally posted by intensity1214
UST
then
la salle
then up-diliman (puede na)

wala na.

:)

hahaha.. could you give us a sample of the research done at the economics dept of ust? preferably one that is "heavy" in econometrics :)

[Coño Guy]

Originally posted by kundera_tan
I'll be doing my thesis (BS ECON;UPSE) this sem..under prof. alburo....
i wanted maam bautista kaya lang ubos na slots. Grr.

ei, Sir alburo, i know is "Sicat Material" thesis adviser. Good luck. :) mine before was dr. kraft, but we got our topic from ma'am bautista. lowest na ata binibigay sa thesis ang 2.0. we got 1.25 e. :)

[Coño Guy]

Originally posted by ustigmatizm
economically speaking, ust is, was and always the best!

viva!

hmm, maybe before, say like 1800s. coz wala pa naman UP, Ateneo, and La Salle. :D

[riza_arnaud]

That's odd... To be honest, in my four years of being a student of Economics in DLSU, I never heard about UST's Econ program, much less hear recognition about it. And believe me, I go around asking people about other academic institutions and their high calibre programs. UPSE still tops the list of course, then DLSU follows. I heard about UA&P's and I must say it ranks third on my list.

[Kooikerhondje]

Just what exactly do you mean when you say economically speaking?

[PlutoPlays]

^ saying the least?