Being a prostitute - a fair basis for expulsion from school?

[josevelarde]

ala lang just a thought. it is still a sex scandal diba? pero what if it was in order to earn for skul? help brothers and sisters and mama and papa.... hay naku....




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[Sweetkay]

If we were living in a fair world, it wouldn't be a fair basis especially if the reason is indeed to be able to attend school and not like those sluts who make themselves a prostitute to get the luxuries of life eventhough they have parents supporting them or apt money.

But then, it's not a fair world.

I don't see prostitution as a sex scandal ... sex scandals involves a cd or tape of you doing it right?

It's a scandal, but not a sex scandal.

Sheesh ... my stand ... I don't think it should be the sole basis for expulsion.

This is just me okay:?:

[BabyFATS]

I don't think sexual activities have to be taped in order to be considered scandalous. :shakehead: Strictly speaking, I think if sex happens beyond its purpose - that of procreation - scandalous na yon, makasalanan na.

Kung yung premarital sex nga at masturbation, kino-consider na makasalanan, yun pa kayang magpabayad para dito?

As far as Pinoy culture is concerned, eskandalo yan, lalo na kung Catholic school ang pinapasukan mo, :down: Syempre kasi tinuturuan ng moral values ang tao sa school, tapos malalamang mag-e-engage sya sa mga immoral activities. Syempre hindi kukunsintihin yan ng school. Otherwise, masisira din naman ang pangalan ng eskwelahan dahil mawawalan sila ng kredibilidad.

And kung earning for school lang kaya sya nagp-prosti, hindi pa rin yon sapat na dahilan sa tingin ko. :no: Pwede mo namang gawan ng paraan kung gugustuhin talaga. Mag-enroll sa public school, and under a scholarship program, para konti o walang gastos. Marami namang schools na nag-o-offer ng scholarship program.

Aminin na ang totoo, madali ang kita sa pagp-prosti. Baket ka pa magpapakahirap kung pwede kang kumita ng pera nang pahila-hilata lang, di ba? :rolleyes:

[mintymalone]

I think so... wala namang school na gustong magkaestudyanteng prosti. Besides, kaya ka nga nag-aaral para magkaeducation tapos nagproprosti ka pala on the side.... That doesn't sound too logical.

[c0ngster]

for catholics schools, i think so.

[hannah17smb]

http://www.baynet.net/~philip/manga/images/gif/marsloop.gif yeah, as for catholic schools, students who are "prostitutes" maybe resented. i dont think so with the public schools and like here in the states... :|

[tin28]

para sa akin, if she's decent and respectable pag asa skul sya and she doesnt do the trading in school, then let her be...wala naman syang sinasaktan sa mga tao sa skul eh...pero syempre kailangan guided pa rin ng admin yun...at least give the person credit for trying to earn money for herself...yun nga lang its not the kind of job na acceptable dito sa pinas...as long as di nya dala image ng school nya while working like wearing their uniform on the way to a conquest

[heymikey]

Well if the girl is still in high school, chances are that she is still a minor; therefore, what she is doing is illegal and her pimp should be arrested and put to jail. As for the girl, I don't think she should be expelled from school unless she goes to a private catholic school.

[kidcharlemagne]

It doesn't matter if you're a prostitute or just plain sexually indiscreet.

Ang mabuti tumahimik ka na lang, huwag kang magyayabang, at piliin mong mabuti ang magiging kliyente mo. Kung mahuli o mabuking ka, be prepared for the consequences.

Colleges and universities have clear-cut guidelines on what comprises "morally accepted behavior" among their students, and it is to their best interests for all to toe the line. Wala kang laban once they throw the book at you!

Ang sinasabi ko lang ay kung meron kang ganyang sideline, pwes huwag na huwag mong ipangangalandakan sa eskwelahan ninyo!!!

[Mickey2000]

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/268834/xmasmickey.jpgFor me,whatever the reason,as long as you can afford to pay the tuition fee and you follow the school "rule"(ie:no drinking inside the school,no drugs,no crime or in that case don't do their job inside the school), they don't have any reason not to accept you or to expelled you,kasi parang they don't wanna give chances to people like that,kung lahat ng school hindi sila tatanggapin kasi prosti sila or ex prosti,paano pa ma che change yung lifestyle nila?I don't think being a prosti is a big crime,kung hindi nila tatanggapin yung mga ganon dahil sa masama galing yung pera,how about yung mga anak ng politican na mga magnanakaw sa gobyerno:?:Kapag dito sa US,the student can press charges against discrimination.

[Dunedain]

I'm troubled with this idea where schools kick out students who just happen to be prostitutes. For one, the school nor anyone has the right whatsoever to any of the students activities OUTSIDE the school. Do they even have to know what rituals you go through just to take a bath nor find out what brand of underwear you're wearing? The best part is that they (student prostitutes) get kicked out of Catholic schools, just because they practice the oldest profession on the planet. Weird. And they call themselves Catholics. HYPOCRITES!!! Aren't schools (no matter what religious background it may be) supposed to EDUCATE students and prepare them for the world they will be walking into. All this time, my Catholicism belief or faith is where I am required (voluntarily) to help the misfortune regardless of race nor religion nor profession, including the prostitutes. Seriously, I'd personally LOVE to nail those who kick out the student prostitutes to the cross - UPSIDE DOWN and I'll even add a smile as a bonus.

[milkyman]

i'm sure there are women who go through college by selling their bodies i.e. stripping or prostitution. and have been successful in both school and life. is it so wrong for them to try survive and make their lives better? but then again should we also tolerate drug dealers the same way? and but then again, prostitutes can also carry/spread disease. should we also tolerate that and risk other student's health? what about taking care of the name written on your diploma? should we tarnish our hard earned education? well to be honest, in a competitive world, its either him/her or me. i'd rather choose my own well being but in case i find one rather keep my mouth shut rather than risking both our necks.

however, i believe that in the incident of the university finding one, it would rather keep things quiet rather than make a big fuss about it.

[Sinta]

People who have to do this for a living should still be able to go to school no matter what. Why cut off that possiblity that they can learn to do other things then sell their bodies? Without education, they will just continue with their work.

Also, if it helps school, well their life. No one should criticize them. Their life, their responsibilities.

[sayuri_succubus]

Technically, YES, this is Philippines, prostitution is illegal, its considered a criminal offense.

[00c3]

Originally posted by milkyman
i'm sure there are women who go through college by selling their bodies i.e. stripping or prostitution. and have been successful in both school and life. is it so wrong for them to try survive and make their lives better? but then again should we also tolerate drug dealers the same way? and but then again, prostitutes can also carry/spread disease. should we also tolerate that and risk other student's health? what about taking care of the name written on your diploma? should we tarnish our hard earned education? well to be honest, in a competitive world, its either him/her or me. i'd rather choose my own well being but in case i find one rather keep my mouth shut rather than risking both our necks.

however, i believe that in the incident of the university finding one, it would rather keep things quiet rather than make a big fuss about it.


i agree with you that its not wrong for them to try to survive. that is one major thing we strive in this world- survival.. however i do not agree with you when you compare prositutes with drug dealers. i view them as different things. mainly because prostitutes dont affect others' lives that much. mostly 'transactions' with prostis last just for a night and thats it. but drugs have longer effects to the users. Dealers can corrupt the users more than prostis can ever corrupt their customers. second, dealers get much higher income than prostis. lastly, prostitutes themselves are the merchandise unlike pushers where they do not have to use their bodies to earn.

what do you mean risks other students health? im not really familiar with medical things, but as far as i know diseases that prostis acquire are usually STDs. how can fellow students be infected? unless they hired the services of the prostis.. but then that is their fault.

[00c3]

if you place your question in a Philippine context, perhaps it is... mainly as many have said that it is not legal yet here... but generally i say it is not fair.. i do not think condemning people would help a not... why not give them the education? that way, there are more chances they can get out of the 'profession' and live better lives...

[Chad]

Prostitution is a crime in the Philippines. Private schools can always cite the principle of Academic Freedom and boot you out. What would be your defense? "Sir, I don't sell my body inside school anyway." "Sir, I don't announce to my clients that I'm from _______ school while they f&*k my brains out." How different would that be if one of the students happened to be a drug pusher? "Sir, I don't sell my drugs in school anyway."

Schools try to keep themselves informed about what their students do outside their campus. Imagine, Dunedain, if a prostitute happened to study in your school. One, he/she would be deemed a danger to the other students in your school. Why? He/she is a temptation to other students to engage in a crime -- prostitution. He/she is a danger to the moral fabric of the school by indirectly promoting the activity. He/she is endangering the physical health of the students by exposing his/her student clients to STDs. Hell, if you wanna get really technical about it, he/she is engaging in a commercial pursuit within school grounds without the consent of the school. :lol: Sorry, that was a hit against my alma mater - you need a permit to sell things inside school. Anyway....

Same banana with drug pushers. Murderers. Thieves. Gamblers. I'm sure there are a lot of sad stories as to why these people turn to prostitution, but the fact of the matter is, the school has a responsibility to protect the general student populace from people who endanger them. Now, would you complain if a school kicked out a drug pusher who engaged in the trade to pay for his/her sibling's tution fees? I applaud the reason as to why he/she sells drugs, but I wouldn't want him/her in my kid's school. Hell, I wouldn't want him/her in this country.

Educate the students about prostitution, go ahead. If you find out that one of your students is a prostitute, I think the school should require that kid to go for counselling ASAP and should discourage it. Kicking the student out would be the final option, but as much as I abhor a kid losing an education, I can't fault the school for that.

[00c3]

what if it turns out the other way? what if having a prostitute classmate make students realize the hardships of life and the importance of striving hard to achieve something in liife? what if it makes students see how fortunate they are to be in school?

one thing more, i dont think a prostitute who is in school would commercialize herself inside campus. most of the time student prostis do not want to let the campus know what their profession is. first of all they would not want discrimination in school, and second their afraid of being kicked out.

[Chad]

00c3
Do you have to hob-knob with a drug pusher to realize that drugs are a menace to society? Must you befriend a prostitute to know the dangers of sexually transmitted diseases? Must you walk around with a loaded gun to understand the danger of carrying a weapon? Must countries develop their own nuclear weapons to comprehend the danger of WMD?

There are countless other sources for students to realize the hardships of life. Your own folks for example, are usually slaving away to get you into good schools. How many students are actually leading a double life, working at part-time jobs just so they can study? These can be role models as well.

Sure, a prostitute who sells his/her body to pay for tuition fees will probably inspire other students to realize how fortunate they are. Are prostitutes the only way for students realize that? Even if prostitutes can be viewed to inspire students to value what they have, they are also a source of danger. From the school's point of view, why should i have someone as a role model (note: I use role model very loosely in this post) who, at the same time, posts a danger to the students, when I can have these other students who role models and who do NOT pose a danger to the students?

Oh, and you'd be surprised as to how many student prostitutes sell their wares inside campus.

[00c3]

did i say that these prostis are the sole role models of society? i must agree with you though that there are numerous sources that a student can realize the hardships of life. however sometimes one realizes the value of everything if they see it through the eyes of another. for example, many students take for granted how their folks overwork to get them into a good school. but if they saw someone their age doing all the work, or dirty jobs, just to buy a new book.. that has more impact on them.

somehow i would understand it if a Catholic school would kick out a prosti student. they have a moral image to maintain. however i think public schools and state Us should not deprive any student of education if it is sought for. one of the big duties of the state is to educate its people. and if they deprive a prosti that? what would you think would happen? well prostis probably stay prostis and thats a bigger problem. or maybe they can establish a school for these people, but never deprive them of education

[Ice Burn]

If Prostitution becomes legal then the schools don't have a right to kick out students who engage in it.

However, the law states that prostitution is a criminal act therefore schools have a right to do so. After all they expel thieves, drug pushers and so forth as part of cooperating with the law.

All I can say is, for all the men and women selling their bodies to put themselves through school, I commend you for wanting to finish your education, just don't get caught...

[balanuS]

I think the schools should observe due process. A prostitute is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. So while the decision is pending, the student/prostitute should be allowed to continue studying provided he/she complies with all the academic requirements.

[Chad]

00c3
The point is, these prostitutes endanger the students. Plain and simple. The school weighs the pros and cons of having a student prostitute around. There is nothing a prostitute can give to benefit the students that the school cannot get from another safer source. It's that simple.

I agree that state universities should have more lattitude when it comes to accepting students. But even so, the mere fact that a student is wilfully engaging in a crime - prostitution - warrants that person more attention. I agree with balanus, due process should be observed. But if and when the prostitute has been proven guilty, it's the school's responsibiity to act accordingly, in the best interest of the students at large.

however sometimes one realizes the value of everything if they see it through the eyes of another. for example, many students take for granted how their folks overwork to get them into a good school. but if they saw someone their age doing all the work, or dirty jobs, just to buy a new book.. that has more impact on them.
Does it have to be a prostitute? A student prostitute? Why can't it be a working student? One who's income comes from a legal source? Are you saying that since the student prostitute's already there, might as well take advantage of him/her and use him/her to educate the students? That's pretty foul, both on the students and on the prostitute him/herself.

[Mickey2000]

http://www.boomspeed.com/carolrobert/mickey.gifIf being a prostitute is a crime, what happen to the customer?
What charges you gonna file against them:?: