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kikay77
Dec 10, 2002, 11:06 AM
Hi all,
need advice on how this exam goes. also the interview (do they have one?)

much tx

zippo_d_frog
Dec 13, 2002, 01:53 PM
huh
super dali lang
wala yatang bumabagsak

tylerdude
Mar 22, 2005, 11:02 AM
im plannin to take the exam this april. how difficult is it? kelangan ba mag-aral pa?

intensity1214.
Mar 22, 2005, 01:48 PM
'yung friend ko grad ng la salle nag-apply 2 years ago, nakapasa siya. may interview raw. isa sa tanong sa kanya: what does mba stand for? pagka-sagot niya, sabi nung nag-interview sa kanya: EXCELLENT!

mukhang maganda nga mba sa ateneo.

:)

alikishi
Mar 22, 2005, 07:24 PM
'yung friend ko grad ng la salle nag-apply 2 years ago, nakapasa siya. may interview raw. isa sa tanong sa kanya: what does mba stand for? pagka-sagot niya, sabi nung nag-interview sa kanya: EXCELLENT!

mukhang maganda nga mba sa ateneo.

:)

really??? nagapply ka rin ba dun?

intensity1214.
Mar 22, 2005, 10:45 PM
nope, i didn't bother, but i don't blink at interesting stories.

:)

wichita_kansas1
Mar 23, 2005, 11:34 PM
^^ sa UST ka na lang mag MBA. parang la salle din dun, e. mga clerk and fresh grads ang classmates mo.
:naughty:

queen_of_taft
Mar 25, 2005, 07:12 PM
Hi all,
need advice on how this exam goes. also the interview (do they have one?)

much tx

napakadali ng entrance exam sa AGSB. parang mga college entrance exam sa UE, FEU, NU etc..

queen_of_taft
Mar 25, 2005, 09:46 PM
^^ i concur.

MacTurd
Mar 25, 2005, 11:10 PM
FACT: The CHED ranked the Ateneo MBA program as the best in the Philippines. Here's the link to the article (http://www.mb.com.ph/issues/2005/01/28/YNCP2005012827293.html) that concluded that the Ateneo's MBA program is the best.

Would you rather believe the CHED or the bashers here in PEx?

Nuff said.

queen_of_taft
Mar 25, 2005, 11:45 PM
baka inedit at dinaya yang article na yan ha! haha

Craig_North
Mar 26, 2005, 12:37 AM
Sayang lang ang money mo sa deateneo :naughty: :naughty:

Take your MBA at UP if you can. Second choice is DLSU maraming UP professors dun. :stan:

RollsRoyce
Mar 26, 2005, 12:59 AM
FACT: The CHED ranked the Ateneo MBA program as the best in the Philippines. Here's the link to the article (http://www.mb.com.ph/issues/2005/01/28/YNCP2005012827293.html) that concluded that the Ateneo's MBA program is the best.

Would you rather believe the CHED or the bashers here in PEx?

Nuff said.

You have a point. I'd rather believe CHED.

MacTurd
Mar 26, 2005, 04:38 AM
According to Singapore News and World Report, Ateneo is no. 10 in Asia. UP is not even in the top 10 list.

According to the CHED's Top Universities in the Philippines, Ateneo is no. 1.

According to Harvard's HPAIR, they consider the Ateneo HPAIR as their only official chapter in the Philippines.

Ang daming maiinggit na naman!

ON TOPIC

Despite the opinions of the bashers in PEx, nobody can dispute the CHED study that ranks the Ateneo MBA program as the best in the Philippines. Just look at the link above.

Just hope and pray your school makes it to no. 2 in next year's study behind the Ateneo. :lol:

Galing talaga ng Ateneo, "The Harvard, MIT and Oxbridge of the Orient." Not only that. It's a safe campus for the elite. The students can enjoy studying without getting raped, held up, kidnapped, or stabbed to death. :nuts:

Stirling
Mar 26, 2005, 09:40 AM
According to Singapore News and World Report, Ateneo is no. 10 in Asia. UP is not even in the top 10 list.:
:eyecrazy:
Huh! Where’s that report? Show us the link to that report.


According to the CHED's Top Universities in the Philippines, Ateneo is no. 1.
:eyecrazy:
Where’s that report? Show us the link to that report.


According to Harvard's HPAIR, they consider the Ateneo HPAIR as their only official chapter in the Philippines.
Where’s that report? Show us the link to that report.


This Atenean troll has gone crazy over surveys and reports which obviously do not exist in the real world. He has repeatedly argued that such surveys and reports exist but until now he could not show us the link to reports signifying his claims that Ateneo is better than UP. Because the reality is – and we already know – his claims exist only in his imagination. :lol:

For the last time, I’ll give you a chance to prove at once that you’re no liar like your fellow pasaway Ateneans here in PEx. If indeed such reports exist, show us the link. Have a little concern to your already destroyed reputation. :lol:

I’ll tell you what the realities are. If there's one university in the Philippines which is recognised by Harvard, that would be no other than UP as it is also the ONLY recognised university by APRU member universities. Here’s the link: http://apru.nus.edu.sg/about/members.htm

For the record: An Ateneo degree is NOT a recognised degree in Harvard, Oxford, Warwick, Cambridge, Stanford and the like. You need to have a Master's degree before you will be admitted to study in any Master's programme in any of these prestigious universities I mentioned.

UP-HPAIR is still very active and it is fully recognized by Harvard. HPAIR-Ateneo, which many people do not know that it exists, is gradually dying to vanity. It has no longer have any creditable programme which it used to have when UP students were still extending help to them. One of the founders of Ateneo_HPAIR is the son of my dad’s staff whom I sacrificed my CAP College Assurance plan just for him to study in Ateneo. His name is Mark, an UPCAT reject who’s now a graduating MBA student in Ateneo GSB. Kaya nga sabi ko, bulok talaga yang Ateneo MBA. Imagine, Mark was able to study MBA straight from undergrad. He applied in UP and La Salle. As expected of him, his application was turned down.

Ang daming maiinggit na naman!
Obviously, walang na-inggit sa bulok na Ateneo mo. Huwag ka lang mag-imbento.

MissDaisy
Mar 26, 2005, 10:38 AM
New study reveals state of Philippine graduate studies


Only one percent of the country’s 195 graduate schools offering programs in education, public administration and business education scored outstanding marks in a recent evaluative survey commissioned by the Commission on Higher Education (CHED).

The study categorized schools into seven clusters, where the majority (58 percent) fell into middle ground but very few could compare favorably with international standards of quality graduate programs.

Conducted by the Fund for Assistance to Private Education (FAPE), the study found only two graduate schools of business, both in the National Capital Region (NCR), who fell into Cluster I-Outstanding category. The Ateneo Graduate School of Business, with campuses in Salcedo Village, Rockwell Center and off-site campuses in Cebu, Subic and Sta. Rosa, Laguna; topped the evaluation and earned the highest score of 4.6 out of a possible perfect score of 5.0.

Seven schools from NCR, Region IV-Southern Tagalog, Region VI-Western Visayas and Region XI Southern Mindanao were classified under Cluster II-Superior.

Schools that fell under Clusters I and II were found to have well qualified faculty members who held key managerial positions in top companies. Graduate students themselves held managerial positions in their place of work. Study programs maintained active linkages with business and industry. School administrations provided adequate state-of-the-art resources including up-to-date electronic references that were accessible to students. Faculty members were well compensated.

On the other end of the spectrum, 7 percent of the schools evaluated scored poorly. Business graduate programs that fell under the Cluster VII-Poor category were found in Region I-Ilocos, Region II-Cagayan Valley, Region III-Central Luzon, Region IV-Southern Tagalog, Region V-Bicol, Region VII-Central Visayas, Region XII-Central Mindanao, ARMM and CARAGA.

These graduate schools were mostly just one-room affairs where all transactions ranging from enrolment, library work and research, faculty study and even classes were conducted. In most of the schools, the graduate programs were run by retired personnel who were not updated on current business developments. Usually only two or three faculty members taught all the course offerings of a program. Most of these institutions were also family-owned and run, and most responsibilities were overseen by close family members. Even faculty and staff obtained their degrees in-house.

CHED is set to evaluate the results further and will consider gradually phasing out programs from low performing schools. A total of 199 graduate schools were listed offering graduate business programs in the Philippines but four were not operating their programs at the time of the study. A team of academic experts and graduate school professors conducted the study over a ninemonth period.

To kikay77 - Good luck with the exams! Hope you pass and make it to the best MBA program in the Philippines. Don't mind the bashers here. They're just bitter and jealous of Ateneo, which is not unusual here in PEx. :)

Ultra_MegaStar
Mar 26, 2005, 10:50 AM
^ ^ That's true. Many are jealous of the Ateneo, the best school in the Philippines. Especially the ACET rejects who are now in UP and Warwick daw and kuno. Just read the posts of these pathetic bashers. Kakaaliw talaga kasi PIKON sa pagka-OLATS.

Ang saya talaga when you're no. 1 like the Ateneo. Best MBA in the Philippines and that's according to the CHED, not mere personal opinions but the plain and simple FACT.

Ang saya-saya! Ateneo, "The Harvard, MIT and Oxbridge of the Philippines." :spinstar:

ROYALblood04
Mar 26, 2005, 12:22 PM
For the record: An Ateneo degree is NOT a recognised degree in Harvard, Oxford, Warwick, Cambridge, Stanford and the like. You need to have a Master's degree before you will be admitted to study in any Master's programme in any of these prestigious universities I mentioned.

are Duke University and the National University of Singapore included in that list of prestigious Universities?

camerlengo
Mar 26, 2005, 04:22 PM
dami kong office mates na nag MBA sa Ateneo
majority non officers
iba di nakatapos
pero bat walang nangyayari sa careers nila

cortez143
Mar 26, 2005, 05:26 PM
Stirling is such an amusing pexer. :glee:

thanks for the laugh, dude (dudette?)

haha

grun
Mar 26, 2005, 06:15 PM
is it true na mas mahal na ang UP MBA kesa sa ADMU at DLSU?

Stirling
Mar 26, 2005, 11:12 PM
^ ^ That's true. Many are jealous of the Ateneo, the best school in the Philippines. Especially the ACET rejects who are now in UP and Warwick daw and kuno. Just read the posts of these pathetic bashers. Kakaaliw talaga kasi PIKON sa pagka-OLATS.

Ang saya talaga when you're no. 1 like the Ateneo. Best MBA in the Philippines and that's according to the CHED, not mere personal opinions but the plain and simple FACT.

Ang saya-saya! Ateneo, "The Harvard, MIT and Oxbridge of the Philippines." :spinstar:
well, what else can I say...mahirap talaga makipag-usap sa ga.go. :lol:

Stirling
Mar 26, 2005, 11:19 PM
are Duke University and the National University of Singapore included in that list of prestigious Universities?
Duke, yes. NUS, no.

ROYALblood04
Mar 27, 2005, 12:27 AM
Duke, yes. NUS, no.

okay, okay... now are you sure that Duke university do not admit students into their masters program (or even their Ph.D program) when the student does not have a masters degree yet?

Stirling
Mar 27, 2005, 02:13 AM
okay, okay... now are you sure that Duke university do not admit students into their masters program (or even their Ph.D program) when the student does not have a masters degree yet?
:eyecrazy:
You did not complete you sentence. Are you trying to be "playing safe"?

OK, here's the GENERAL condition:
Prestigious universities in the US, Canada, New Zealand, Australia and the United Kingdom require their international applicants a proof of equivalency of their undergraduate qualification that must be a full equivalent to their own. Embassies of these countries are tasked to submit a list of universities that are considered acceptable. Unfortunately, only one university in the Philippines was considered to their list – the University of the Philippines.

Exceptions exist, though only in extreme cases, because aside from the quality-ranked of your college, your undergraduate qualification, grades, work experience, recommendations, GRE and honours received are also weighed in.

Due to this guideline, only in extreme circumstance that a fresh Ateneo graduate will be accepted to study for master's degree.

Ultra_MegaStar
Mar 27, 2005, 05:39 AM
^ Bunch of baloney! Hogwash! Poppyc0ck!

There are more Ateneo college graduates in the graduate schools of the top universities like Harvard, Stanford, Princeton, U Penn, Northwestern, Yale, NYU, Columbia, UC Berkeley, Oxford, Cambridge, LSE, LBS, etc. than any other college in the Philippines (including UP and DLSU).

After all, Ateneans represent the largest single block of Filipino students in the top universities in the USA and in Europe. No other group from other universities in the Philippines even comes close. That's a fact.

BACK ON TOPIC

The CHED study concluded that the best MBA program in the Philippines is the Ateneo MBA. To those who are not at par with Ateneo's MBA, tough luck! Inggit lang kayo. :naughty2:

To those who are taking the exams, good luck. Hope you make the cut. If so, welcome to the best MBA program in the Philippines.

To those who'll fail, don't worry. There's always UP and DLSU for you. They're okay din naman even if they are not as good as Ateneo. Just try to be good sports about it and don't become an Ateneo basher in PEx like that Warwick guy (kuno) who, up to now, has problems dealing with rejection.

Ateneo: "The Harvard, MIT and Oxbridge of the Orient." :spinstar:

ROYALblood04
Mar 27, 2005, 08:35 AM
:eyecrazy:
You did not complete you sentence. Are you trying to be "playing safe"?

OK, here's the GENERAL condition:
Prestigious universities in the US, Canada, New Zealand, Australia and the United Kingdom require their international applicants a proof of equivalency of their undergraduate qualification that must be a full equivalent to their own. Embassies of these countries are tasked to submit a list of universities that are considered acceptable. Unfortunately, only one university in the Philippines was considered to their list – the University of the Philippines.

Exceptions exist, though only in extreme cases, because aside from the quality-ranked of your college, your undergraduate qualification, grades, work experience, recommendations, GRE and honours received are also weighed in.

Due to this guideline, only in extreme circumstance that a fresh Ateneo graduate will be accepted to study for master's degree.

eh pano kung fresh graduate tapos sa Ph.D program? maliit na ang chance?

Limasawa
Mar 28, 2005, 04:28 PM
ATeneo is still a Filipino school, the best university (kung totoo nga) in the most insignificant nation in world. Your nerve to compare to US schools, the best Philippine school can't even compare to least significant community college in America. Lahat tayo bulok. Kung baga, may negro na pumunta sa Pilipinas at sinabing konyo siya and he graduated from the top school in Zimbabwe. You really think he will earn your respect? You really think a Cum Laude of Ateneo will at least be given a clerical position in US companies? I don't think so.

ROYALblood04
Mar 28, 2005, 07:55 PM
I think a cum laude of Ateneo will be given a good opportunity outside (even in the US)

onecarlos
Mar 29, 2005, 02:54 AM
The exchange of snide remarks in this thread is way too entertaining. Ewan ko sanyo basta ako madami ako natututuhan sa Ateneo. At di pa madamot magturo ang mga prof. For instance, I had this lawyer-professor who teaches the subject law in business (my elective in Ateneo MBA, btw). He had given out bonus lessons not covered in the course syllabus -- like torts and damages.

Ok na sana kaso daming snob, mostly Filipinos. Kaya I end up having foreigner schoolmates as friends in school -- last term, I made friends with an Indonesian, two Chinese, and a Turk.

Cheers!!!

Craig_North
Mar 29, 2005, 04:05 AM
According to Singapore News and World Report, Ateneo is no. 10 in Asia. UP is not even in the top 10 list.

According to the CHED's Top Universities in the Philippines, Ateneo is no. 1.

According to Harvard's HPAIR, they consider the Ateneo HPAIR as their only official chapter in the Philippines.

Ang daming maiinggit na naman!

ON TOPIC

Despite the opinions of the bashers in PEx, nobody can dispute the CHED study that ranks the Ateneo MBA program as the best in the Philippines. Just look at the link above.

Just hope and pray your school makes it to no. 2 in next year's study behind the Ateneo. :lol:

Galing talaga ng Ateneo, "The Harvard, MIT and Oxbridge of the Orient." Not only that. It's a safe campus for the elite. The students can enjoy studying without getting raped, held up, kidnapped, or stabbed to death. :nuts:
Mahiya ka naman!! :no: - deateneo -Harvard and MIT of the Orient (fantasy -gumising ka). :eyecrazy: Here in the US in our company, there are around 100-200 Pinoy Engineers and scientists and I need to meet even one deateneo graduate-wala -zero . Most of them are UP, Mapua,CIT (Cebu) and DLSU graduates and you will be proud of them dahil lumalaban sila ng sabayan sa US graduates here (UCBerkeley,Davis ,UCLA and even Stanford). You better give a proof to your claim. We met a Management Engineer graduate from deateneo working at Macys-medyo may itsura pero parang bading.

Pale Rider
Mar 29, 2005, 04:58 AM
You know, no one's gonna convince anyone else of anything. Basta, as long as you know your university has given you a lot, that should be enough.

Seriously, why do we even refer to things like surveys conducted by third parties in order to express pride for our schools? I honestly don't understand it. I mean, it's nice and all when things like the CHED study pop up and place my alma mater in a good light, but are they at all necessary for me to be proud of the Ateneo? Hell no. What makes my alma mater so great to me? Well, I'll need to narrate the past 16 years of my life before I can make anyone even REMOTELY understand that.

Thing is, wherever you came from, what will determine success in your life will be the decisions YOU make. Getting a degree from God knows where will not ensure a comfortable professional life. I mean, most of todays' success stories even involve college dropouts, people who didn't even give a cr*p about getting degrees or anything. Sure, university will give you the tools you need, but is a graduate from one of the "elite" schools (ADMU, DLSU, UP) guaranteed to end up better off than someone from, say, a public school? Not really.

Point ko lang is, don't get too carried away with this "pataasan ng ihi" business that's SO getting to be the norm around here. If you're truly happy with what your university has given you, you shouldn't really feel the need to argue about it and label other schools "inferior." People who resort to that usually suffer from some sort of insecurity. Matamaan na lang ang matatamaan.

Peace.

Craig_North
Mar 29, 2005, 05:42 AM
:kyle: We have to enlighten everyone if somebody is claiming to be ( like deateneo - when she doent deserve the claim). 400 years of the Friars educational legacy of elitism in the Philippines had enslaved the Filiipino masses.Differing opinions should not moved or bother anybody if your claim is credible!! :no: The truth and wisdom will set you free.

Pale Rider
Mar 29, 2005, 06:24 AM
^ Agreed. But when you get right down to it, don't we all contruct our own realities? Yeah, some claims are indeed more credible than others, but is there really an absolute TRUTH in existence when you're dealing with an issue such as "Which school is better?" Mentioning "cold, hard facts" like the CHED study or the Asiaweek reports will surely lend credibility to your claim, but inevitably someone else comes up with another "credible source" to argue in favor of his/her school. Then the retorts become personal and suddenly there's this big b*tchfight over the friggin' internet. What's the point, man?

The only thing I'm saying is that we can all be as proud of our educational pedigrees as we can, but it doesn't have to come at the expense of people from other schools. I passed the UPCAT and ACET back in 2001, and I chose Ateneo. Is it because I think Ateneo's WAY better than UP? Do I think any less of my friends who chose UP? Absolutely not. I just felt that staying in the Ateneo, the place where I spent my formative years, would prove to be the best situation for me. I also felt that the Ateneo would give me the best opportunities for my professional life. Do I make that claim in defamation of the UP, La Salle, or UST educational programs? Certainly not. I don't need to refer to any other "sources" to justify why I think the world of my alma mater. Matter of fact, I don't need to justify it, period.

Perhaps there's a deeper reason behind all this boasting and posturing, but please forgive me if I totally fail to comprehend. It still eludes me to this day.

Craig_North
Mar 29, 2005, 08:07 AM
^^ Mahilig mag grand posturing ang deateneo :eyecrazy: Claiming winning debating contest and other questionable contest -voila - Harvard and MIT of the orient na-fantasy of iskul bukol!! . :no: In the real world, UP had published a lot scientific and business research papers by its graduates that are recognized wordwide.Even other colleges -the like of Mapua had their Ed San Juan-(NASA moon rover) and Engineer Banatao of Silicon Valley here in California(he is responsible for the clear colored like TV interface of the PC you are now watching- before it is like a monochrome green pc). He is nearing the 3/4 Billion net worth now.You have to substantiate your claim before broadcasting it or kayabangan lang yun.Deateneo can not even be included in the likes of AIT (Asian Institute of Technology.- Bangkok,Thailand) and TECHNION of Israel.
Remember then , when CBS broadcast a story questioning the military record of
President George Bush to bash his image. It turn out that the supporting documents are false and CBS 60 minutes programmed was tarnished and 3 senior officials were fired and probably ended Dan Rather 's career.Hope you are enlightened of somebody s crap .

Krayon
Mar 29, 2005, 08:16 AM
Just remember, Craig_North, UP is not exactly the best school in Asia. Not even one of the best.

The Philippine educational system is lagging behind, and the includes UP, Ateneo, La Salle, UST. Stop bickering. The sorry state of our schools is nothing to be proud of.

Pale Rider
Mar 29, 2005, 08:20 AM
^^ Mahilig mag grand posturing ang deateneo :eyecrazy: Claiming winning debating contest and other questionable contest -voila - Harvard and MIT of the orient na-fantasy of iskul bukol!! . :no: In the real world, UP had published a lot scientific and business research papers by its graduates that are recognized wordwide.Even other colleges -the like of Mapua had their Ed San Juan-(NASA moon rover) and Engineer Banatao of Silicon Valley here in California(he is responsible for the clear colored like TV interface of the PC you are now watching- before it is like a monochrome green pc). He is nearing the 3/4 Billion net worth now.You have to substantiate your claim before broadcasting it or kayabangan lang yun.Deateneo can not even be included in the likes of AIT (Asian Institute of Technology.- Bangkok,Thailand) and TECHNION of Israel.
Remember then , when CBS broadcast a story questioning the military record of
President George Bush to bash his image. It turn out that the supporting documents are false and CBS 60 minutes programmed was tarnished and 3 senior officials were fired and probably ended Dan Rather 's career.Hope you are enlightened of somebody s crap .
You've just perfectly illustrated my point. Thanks, I guess.

Pare, ikaw na ang bahala. Basta, I've said what I've said. If you wanna continue the endless bashing then be my guest. I don't need it. Maybe you do.

Craig_North
Mar 30, 2005, 05:05 AM
Just remember, Craig_North, UP is not exactly the best school in Asia. Not even one of the best.

The Philippine educational system is lagging behind, and the includes UP, Ateneo, La Salle, UST. Stop bickering. The sorry state of our schools is nothing to be proud of.
:no: Remember most of OFW (nurses,doctors,engineers and other professiionals) are graduates and products of Philippine schools and universities. Economic limitations is a major obstacle for its present state but inspite of this , year after year these schools like UP, DLSU ,Mapua, UST and other schools are
producing graduates that are excelling here and abroad . OFW s are sending $10-15 Billion dollars to the Philippines ;that is keeping the Philippine economy
afloat. Magtago ka na lang sa palda ng mga deateneo Jesuitas Miss Krayon.
UP is not the best in Asia but is one of the best and and an excellent school. Dapat nga instead of budget cuts for education ;increase more funding for research as breeding ground for emerging industries which UP is already doing. :sweatdrop:

Krayon
Mar 30, 2005, 05:52 AM
Your comment changes nothing. We are still lagging behind. And don't you think it's sad that people have to leave the country in order to give thier families a good life? I do.

P.S. I'm a guy. And I'm not studying in Ateneo. Or UP. Or La Salle. Or UST. I don't know where you got those conclusions.

And I agree - more funding for UP. The facilities there are sadly lagging behind.

KINGS.
Mar 31, 2005, 05:37 AM
^ Agreed. But when you get right down to it, don't we all contruct our own realities? Yeah, some claims are indeed more credible than others, but is there really an absolute TRUTH in existence when you're dealing with an issue such as "Which school is better?" Mentioning "cold, hard facts" like the CHED study or the Asiaweek reports will surely lend credibility to your claim, but inevitably someone else comes up with another "credible source" to argue in favor of his/her school. Then the retorts become personal and suddenly there's this big b*tchfight over the friggin' internet. What's the point, man?

The only thing I'm saying is that we can all be as proud of our educational pedigrees as we can, but it doesn't have to come at the expense of people from other schools. I passed the UPCAT and ACET back in 2001, and I chose Ateneo. Is it because I think Ateneo's WAY better than UP? Do I think any less of my friends who chose UP? Absolutely not. I just felt that staying in the Ateneo, the place where I spent my formative years, would prove to be the best situation for me. I also felt that the Ateneo would give me the best opportunities for my professional life. Do I make that claim in defamation of the UP, La Salle, or UST educational programs? Certainly not. I don't need to refer to any other "sources" to justify why I think the world of my alma mater. Matter of fact, I don't need to justify it, period.

Perhaps there's a deeper reason behind all this boasting and posturing, but please forgive me if I totally fail to comprehend. It still eludes me to this day.
Ang masasabi ko lang: Anyone who believes UP is not the number one in the Philippines is either ignorant, or mentally deluded.

KINGS.
Mar 31, 2005, 05:45 AM
eh pano kung fresh graduate tapos sa Ph.D program? maliit na ang chance?
Did you understand what Stirling was saying?

Pale Rider
Mar 31, 2005, 05:51 AM
Ang masasabi ko lang: Anyone who believes UP is not the number one in the Philippines is either ignorant, or mentally deluded.
Opinions are like @$$holes. Everybody's got one. You're free to express yours as long as you respect everyone else's right to do the same. My opinions are far different from yours but trust me, I'm neither ignorant nor deluded.

KINGS.
Mar 31, 2005, 05:53 AM
Just remember, Craig_North, UP is not exactly the best school in Asia. Not even one of the best.

The Philippine educational system is lagging behind, and the includes UP, Ateneo, La Salle, UST. Stop bickering. The sorry state of our schools is nothing to be proud of.
So, what makes a university become one of the best in Asia? In other words, what are the criteria to become one of the best in Asia?

KINGS.
Mar 31, 2005, 05:58 AM
Opinions are like @$$holes. Everybody's got one. You're free to express yours as long as you respect everyone else's right to do the same. My opinions are far different from yours but trust me, I'm neither ignorant nor deluded.
Did you ever say UP is not number one in the PHilippines, a$$hole?

Pale Rider
Mar 31, 2005, 06:06 AM
Did you ever say UP is not number one in the PHilippines, a$$hole?
Hey, no need to be so formal.

I do not think UP is the undisputed #1 school in the Philippines. I don't think there IS one, really. It largely depends on the student, what type of environment he/she is most comfortable with, what area of study he/she is interested in, and other things as well. Schools are not there to win awards, score highly in surveys, or win contests. They are there to serve students. If you think that there's ONE school that's the best in ANY situation, I'd call that a very narrow-minded perspective. I'm an Atenean but I'd never call Ateneo the best in the Philippines. What I WOULD claim is that it is the best for me.

KINGS.
Mar 31, 2005, 06:14 AM
Ateneo is the best for you. OK, I won't argue further because "best" is relative. but is it the number ONE in the Philippines? Did you understand what I was asking from you? Do not set a personal criteria. You are "nobody" to set the criteria for all to agree.

Pale Rider
Mar 31, 2005, 06:27 AM
You're asking me to make a stand but at the same time, "forbidding" me to set a criteria with which to make that stand. Do you realize how stupid that is?

Christ, I never knew UP could produce airheads like this specimen. Don't you think you're being just a BIT self-absorbed, not to mention classless? I mean, you've already thrown "@$$hole" at me and called me a "nobody," even if you don't know anything about me, while I've basically kept my arguments clean. You see the difference now? I don't feel the urge to hurl pointless insults your way because I know my arguments speak for themselves.

You, on the other hand, need to put people down to feel better about yourself. Isn't that why you've just been banned for the umpteenth time?

KINGS.
Mar 31, 2005, 06:41 AM
enough of your drama. lumalabas lang ang pagka bakla mo. go straight to the point.

You're curving the criteria to suit to your PERSONAL needs that's why it's the best for YOU. but that's only for you hence the nobody. unless you can justify that you're someone, you'll remain a nobody. My question is: is your "the best" also the number one school?

Pale Rider
Mar 31, 2005, 06:47 AM
Okay, I guess you wanna ignore the issues you can't rationalize away...

Lemme ask YOU a question. Who decides what the number one school is? Is there an all-knowing entity that makes the assessment? Ano yung proof mo that UP is number one beyond any doubt?

Well, I guess we're both nobodies, then. I'm not intimidated by anyone, least of all you. Besides, anyone who resorts to "bakla" insults in a proper argument cannot be of too much substance. I've made friends out of brilliant students, valedictorians, salutatorians, you name it. You do not possess their class, their open-mindedness, nor their objectivity when it comes to discussions. Therefore, you are a NOBODY as well, dig?

KINGS.
Mar 31, 2005, 07:24 AM
Okay, I guess you wanna ignore the issues you can't rationalize away...

Lemme ask YOU a question. Who decides what the number one school is? Is there an all-knowing entity that makes the assessment? Ano yung proof mo that UP is number one beyond any doubt?

Well, I guess we're both nobodies, then. I'm not intimidated by anyone, least of all you. Besides, anyone who resorts to "bakla" insults in a proper argument cannot be of too much substance. I've made friends out of brilliant students, valedictorians, salutatorians, you name it. You do not possess their class, their open-mindedness, nor their objectivity when it comes to discussions. Therefore, you are a NOBODY as well, dig?
Ha ha ha... that defense mechanism you’re employing is clearly working against you.

My question wasn't subjective. It should have required you to answer either a yes or a no. nevertheless, your article reached 3 paragraphs containing mostly of comments to side issues. The fact that you're more concentrated to commenting on the side issues and explaining these in a quite flamboyant way prove that you're a woman trapped in a man's body. :lol: and in such a case, i won't argue further with you. i'd rather that you call me "low class" than being an insecure bakla. :lol:

Pale Rider
Mar 31, 2005, 07:33 AM
Cool. Then we agree to disagree. After all, we're NOBODIES, so we don't have to agree all the time, 'di ba?

Honestly dude, I don't know why you find my delivery so unusual. Nasanay ka ba sa kabarukan at kasablayan? Actually, don't bother answering that question...

Pare, those "bakla" shots only work on people who are insecure, lonely, and weak (not to mention equipped with the maturity of a fifth-grader). When life's going as good as it is for me right now, it's real hard to complain about anything at all, even harder to make a fuss over childish little insults. Knock yourself out, dude. It's all good. :lol:

ROYALblood04
Mar 31, 2005, 08:21 AM
Did you understand what Stirling was saying?

linilinaw ko lang...

hindi pa nga ako sinasagot eh

Ultra_MegaStar
Mar 31, 2005, 10:03 AM
Okay. Despite all the sideshows, personal insults, bashing, etc. in this thread, nobody can dispute the fact that the Ateneo MBA is the no. 1 MBA program in the Philippines according to the CHED study.

Kakainggit talaga ang Ateneo noh? Always no. 1 na lang. That's why there are so many people who are envious of the Ateneo, so aptly called "The Harvard, MIT and Oxbridge of the Orient."

Ang saya talaga! :spinstar:

ROYALblood04
Mar 31, 2005, 06:25 PM
tagal naman ni stirling? na ban ba siya? hahaha

Pale Rider
Mar 31, 2005, 09:39 PM
^ Dunno, pare. Dunno. :wiseguy:

Ultra_MegaStar
Mar 31, 2005, 11:38 PM
^ ^ ^ Stirling has been banned, which is not surpirisng at all. That's his 103rd banned alternick. His latest alternick is KINGS. :elf:

He's easy to find. Just look for the usual subject-verb mistakes and anti-Ateneo sentiment in his posts and you'll find him. His trademark is his envy and insecurity of the Ateneo, "The Harvard, MIT and the Oxbridge of the Orient." He also likes to bash the respectable moderators of PEx, which is his biggest boo-boo. IMO, that really makes him "boo-boo." :worm:

Pale Rider
Mar 31, 2005, 11:42 PM
Stirling has been banned. Not surpirisng at all. That's his 103rd banned alternick. His latest alternick is KINGS. :elf:

He's easy to find. Just look for the usual subject-verb mistakes and anti-Ateneo sentiment in his posts and you'll find him. :nuts:
Also look for the "UP's the best" fanaticism and the lame "bakla" potshots. Plus, if you also check out the UAAP threads, look for the guy (?) who knows absolutely NOTHING about basketball and starts PMSing the moment it's even REMOTELY suggested that UP won't win the Men's Basketball crown this year. :lol:

MacTurd
Apr 1, 2005, 12:20 AM
JUST SHARING SOME OF THE LATEST NEWS REGARDING THE HARVARD BUSINESS SCHOOL OF THE PHILIPPINES -- The Ateneo Graduate School of Business


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News Update from the AGSB


The Philippines’ and Asia’s First Ever MBA-Cooperatives Management Signed

The first ever MBA Program for cooperatives in the Philippines and in Asia was launched in March 2005 with the signing of the Memorandum of Agreement detailing the provisions of the undertaking between the Ateneo Graduate School of Business (AGSB) and the Coop Institute for Excellence.
Signing for AGSB is the Vice President for the Professional Schools and Dean of the AGSB, Dr. Alfredo R. A. Bengzon and the Chair of the Coop Institute for Excellence, Dr. Caridad Maadil. The ceremony was held at the Blue Room in the Ateneo Professional Schools’ Rockwell Campus and attended by a number of cooperatives directors and managers from all over the Philippines, including Nueva Viscaya, Samar, Bicol, and Novaliches. These same people are candidates for the program designed to enhance their managerial and leadership skills to strengthen their respective organizations. There are about 65,000 listed cooperatives in the Philippines which are regulated by the Cooperatives Development Authority.

In his remarks, Dr. Bengzon said that he was stimulated by the opportunity to be developed from this partnership in line with AGSB’s thrust at helping build the nation as embodied in its Mulat-Diwa Program. In her response, Dr. Maadil said that cooperators believe that they have a different purpose in the marketplace—that even as they succeed like any other business, cooperatives have a social purpose. This essence of cooperatives as both a business and a social enterprise is expected to be captured by this pioneering MBA program.

She said that the Coop Institute, which groups together the various cooperatives in the country, has chosen the AGSB as partner not only because it is adjudged the top business school in the country but also because AGSB and the Coop Institute share the same values and principles of service for others.

The curriculum and programs will be co-developed with experts from both institutions. It is envisioned that the MBA-Cooperatives Management program will be simultaneously held in Luzon, Visayas, and Mindanao using the Ateneo-Regis program and delivery platforms of acceleratedness and adult-learner orientation.

Also present in the signing were AGSB Associate Dean Alberto Buenviaje and Mr. Senen Bacani, a former AGSB faculty member and secretary of the Department of Agriculture during the Aquino administration. Mr. Bacani sits as one of the Coop Institute directors. Also present was Mr. Romeo Villamin, Coop Institute Executive Director.

The MBA-Cooperatives Management program is set to start in June or earlier depending on the speed by which the various cooperatives in the country nominate and process their applicants to undergo AGSB entrance qualifications.

Dr. Cesar A. Mansibang, APS Registrar, was master of ceremonies.

Ateneo-Regis MBA Executive Program Accredited by the Department of Veteran Affairs of the United States Embassy

As proof of its excellent curriculum and program delivery platforms which are recognized locally and internationally, the Ateneo-Regis MBA Executive Program was approved and given an accreditation by the Department of Veterans Affairs of the United States Embassy for the educational training of its veteran citizens who have decided to reside in the country after their retirement. Many of these veterans are Filipino-Americans who came back to the country after their retirement.

The approval came in a letter from the Department of Veteran Affairs dated 21 March 2005 addressed to Dr. Mansibang informing the AGSB that the Ateneo-Regis Program has been approved.

A number of veterans are now enrolled in the Program both under audit status (for those who do not have plans of completing the MBA degree) and under credit status (those who want to earn the degree). Some of them are enrolled in the Cebu campus, others in Subic, and still others in the Rockwell campus.

Sanata Dharma University Officials Visit AGSB

Three officials from the Sanata Dharma University, a Jesuit institution located in Yogyakarta, Indonesia, visited the AGSB in March 2005 to explore possible linkage opportunities. Dr. Cesar A. Mansibang, APS Registrar, met Mr. Alex Kahu Lantum, Dean of the Faculty of Economics, Mr. Gregorius Hendra Poerwanto, Head of the Management Department, and Mr. Hansiadi Yuli Hartanto, Head of the Accounting Department.

The guests discussed with Dr. Mansibang their desire for a possible co-development or twinning program for Masters in Management, and faculty and student exchange. Dean Lantum explored the possibility for some AGSB faculty members to teach under certain conditions in the just-implemented Masters in Management Program in Sanata Dharma and to help in developing and improving its curriculum.

Dr. Mansibang agreed that all these proposals are do-able, mentioning AGSB’s current linkages with two business schools in France where faculty and student exchanges have already taken place and are currently increased under the auspices of the International Programs of the Ateneo de Manila University.

At least three of the Indonesian university’s professors are graduates of our MBA Standard Program and are now teaching in their respective colleges.

More email exchanges will be made in the near future to cement possible agreements on the matter. Mr. Lantum invited Dr. Mansibang to visit Sanata in the future.
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{End of Quote}

ATENEO: The Pride of the Philippines
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aucklander_222
May 17, 2005, 12:34 PM
AGSB is a diploma mill. that's a fact.

atenista_c_me
May 18, 2005, 06:16 PM
gosh..too many inggits here.. haha!

beckom
May 20, 2005, 11:16 PM
Wish ko lang yung mga sumasagot sa thread e intindihin kung ano yung tanong ng thread starter. Ask lang po sya advise regarding the entrance exam ng Ateneo MBA hindi po sya ask ng opinion (stupid or otherwise) kung alin ang pinakamagaling na MBA program.

grim_reaper1814
May 21, 2005, 04:45 PM
ewan pero nabasa ko somewhere na AIM ang 3rd best school in the world para mag mba!

ate_nean_gurl
May 23, 2005, 07:07 PM
i think Ateneo MBA and AIM were at the same level. medyo lamang ng konti ang skul ko because of our pretigious and envied REGIS PROGRAM. :)

If its from Ateneo, it must be good!

tylerdude
May 24, 2005, 04:51 PM
guys, can you help me decide which program to choose? the standard program or yung middle managers? i'm already 29 years old and i'm working for a multinational company in a supervisory role. will i be wasting my time and effort if i apply for the standard program instead of applying in the program for middle managers?

ate_nean_gurl
May 24, 2005, 04:54 PM
^^
If it's from THE ATENEO, it must be good so any programs will do the same.

;)