Buhay Pinoy sa Amerika

[da Sweetest pinay]

Kala niyo madali dito sa Amerika..siguro sa iba kung marunong makisama or magaling sa mga nego-negosyo na yan...kung hindi..puro ka utang...

[MsAnonymous]

Hahaha..Sheesh! It's not that bad...I still believe that with all the educational and job opportunities available in the US, you'll certainly go places if you work hard enough....Everything is laid out and it's all up to you whether or not you want to take advantage of them...Well, I guess it all just depends on the individual....Just don't give up! ;)

[piper-sf]

hay naku, mahirap kung wala kang relatives, You'll feel left out kung ikaw lang magisa. Pero masasabi ko lang, kung sa states kayo titira ang magiging buhay nyo lang eh bahy-trabaho-bahay-trabaho, except na lang kung marami kang kakilala dito....masasabi ko lang mas masarap ang buhay dyan.Lalo na kung marami kang pera.

[chick-boy]

is it true that life in the states is all work and no play?!

[yax-ytterp]

Originally posted by chick-boy:
is it true that life in the states is all work and no play?!

shempre it's up to the person naman eh. kasi naman sa states puro utang so you really have to pay for your debts by working really hard... as in hard! also, pagod ka na nga sa trabaho pagdating mo sa bahay you still have to do your own chores. Unlike kasi sa PI, madali kumuha at hindi ganun ka-expensive ang maid, sa states, cleaning lady lang sobrang mahal na! Di pa kasama yung laundry, dishes... haaayyy sus, yoko na bumalik dun! http://www.pinoyexchange.com/boom.gif

[LUIS BUCOY]

I'm assuming you guys and gals are all single. But kung ang pamilya mo ay nasa Pinas malungkot. No matter how many relatives you have they can't replace your loved ones. It's all work...work...drink....drink.... http://www.pinoyexchange.com/lol.gif

[MsAnonymous]

Originally posted by chick-boy:
is it true that life in the states is all work and no play?! Well I guess it really depends on the person nga....I mean we're getting along great here...It's certainly not all work....I guess you just gotta wait till you're really settled and financially stable.....It'll come...

[:Þ]

It depends on the person. It really does.

siguro nasanay na rin ako na hindi kasama mga relatives ko, that's why okay na ko sa ngayon..

Buhay amerika? hmm.. you gotta work a little bit.. yeah.. pero heto lang ang masasabi ko..

(pabulong)"Ang sasarap ng chicks dito!!" http://www.pinoyexchange.com/yummy.gif http://www.pinoyexchange.com/yummy.gif http://www.pinoyexchange.com/yummy.gif

So Such.

[crazymacaddict]

mahirap nga...nakakalungkot. pero, inaaliw naman ako ng mga kaupisina ko pero, NAKAKAPAGOD MAG INGLES!!!!!!!!!!!!

it's good that i have this powerbook to keep me company. naku, kung hindi....MALOLOKA NA AKO!!!!

wala kasi akong pamilya dito,eh. wala rin akong boyfriend. kung bakit kasi pumayag pa ako sa boss ko na MAGPA-IMPORT DITO SA AMERIKA.

pero, ok lang. i'm learning a lot of things here na di ko matututunan sa pilipinas siguro....tulad ng paglalaba, pagluluto, maglinis, kausapin ang sarili ko, makipagtawanan sa sarili ko, makipaginuman sa sarili ko.

HAAAYYYYYYYY!

[kabayo]

ako dahil sa walang relatives, pagdating ko, una kung ginawa ... nag kiss muna kao kay mickey mouse ... tapos nag-try ng long drive ... mga 4-hours ... ngayon ang record ko ay 12 hours na ... tapos nag-tiis mabuhay sa hamburger at sub ... until nakakita ng asian market at nakabili ng bigas at ulam ... hehehe ... slowly lumabas na ang mga ibang pinoy (may mga nakita na akong kaibigan) ... so life slowly gets back to normal ... ngayon, marunong na ako mag-ingles (ibig sabihin,maski may laman ang bibig ng kano at nagsalita, mai-intindihan ko na) ... nakakalibot na rin, may mga kaibigang pilipino na napapasyalan, at kaya ko nang mabuhay sa hamburger at credit card ... trabaho na lang ang worry ko ... hehehe ... baka masisisante kasi sa ka-i-internet .. hehehehe

[LeZzli]

I guess I'm one of the lucky ones who's now based here with their whole families. Plus, I've got a really sweet bf, who I've been going out for almost a year now, so the term "all work and no play" doesn't really apply to me. Yup, hardwork is a must, but I think that applies to anybody who wants to succeed regardless of where he/she lives. Other than my having to be away from my friends back in the PI (whom I terribly miss), I would say I've found a "new" home here.

[Jonny]

man ya'll spoiled!!!! what's wrong with all work and no play?? For people whose culture is like that, there isn't anything wrong with it.. It's simply a cultural issue and not a "Life is Harder in the US" issue.

Doing ur OWN laundry, buying your own groceries, washing your own dishes and cooking your own food ain't that bad...

[lapok]

Life here in States madali lang. Sa akin hindi na ako nanibago, kasi ginagawa ko rin naman yung mga gingawa ko sa PI like trabaho, gimmick, barkada, hugas plato, do your chores sa bahay, linis nang kotse, etc. (Tinuruan agad kami nang parents namin how to be independent when we were in PI in case na we moved out). Basta alam mo lang ang mga gimmick dito para ka na ring nasa PI. Ang mahirap lang dito is how to find a real friend not like in the PI madaling hanapin. And tama si p: sarap nang bebots dito.

[GiftOfAcabar]

Just want to know how's life and work in US specially in NY or NJ since I would be based in NY or NJ.

I heard that the work loads there are lighter compare to what we have here.

What about the treatment? Do we get the same response compare to that of their locals?

Thanks.

[f0r5aK3n]

dude, check out this link in another thread... :)

http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=33971

[GiftOfAcabar]

Originally posted by f0r5aK3n
dude, check out this link in another thread... :)

http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php3?threadid=33971

thanks

[ForJake69]

f0r5aK3n is good in out-sourcing. anyway, here's my comment: :)

GiftOfAcabar, re workload, depende sa company. Sometimes, workload here is worst than what we have there. But most of the times, mas maganda dito. Duties and responsibilites here are properly observe (most of the time).

sometimeswe don't get the proper response coz they don't understand us. usually,they're nice.

Originally posted by GiftOfAcabar

Just want to know how's life and work in US specially in NY or NJ since I would be based in NY or NJ.

I heard that the work loads there are lighter compare to what we have here.

What about the treatment? Do we get the same response compare to that of their locals?

Thanks.

[GiftOfAcabar]

Originally posted by ForJake69
f0r5aK3n is good in out-sourcing. anyway, here's my comment: :)

GiftOfAcabar, re workload, depende sa company. Sometimes, workload here is worst than what we have there. But most of the times, mas maganda dito. Duties and responsibilites here are properly observe (most of the time).

sometimeswe don't get the proper response coz they don't understand us. usually,they're nice.


ForJake69: thanks. I've been hearing a lot of good things regarding their (americans) treatment with us, Filipinos. Well, soon enough I'll be answering my own question when I get there. But it's definitely good to hear from co-filipino working there, it helps alot, thanks again .

[Mr. Green Card]

This is a thread for Filipinos now living in America. Post your experiences, insights, reflections, sentiments, and stories here.

[rusyanjill]

Well, I always believe that US is not the only place where milk and honey abounds. I also do believe that most Filipinos (esp those who haven't been in the US) have a wrong perception of what's life in the US.

I have nothing against the US. In fact, I indebted to Uncle Sam.

Here, you earn $$$$, you spend $$$$$$$$.
Here, you cannot have the luxury of having your own maid, driver, etc.
Here, you have to do all things by yourself.

[Mr. Green Card]

Let me begin with my story.

It's been almost 5 months since I arrived here in America. When I first got here, it was a sigh of relief for me. Finally, "the land of milk and honey". Finally, I'm going to where thousands of Filipinos dream of setting foot on. Legally, at that. I was awestruck and looked forward to living in America.

I left behind a lot just for a chance to live here. I left behind my friends, my family, and a girl I loved so dearly. I left behind a social stature that I had amassed by studying in one of the top universities in the Philippines. I was set to inherit a family business that would keep my life comfortable enough. But then, I chose to leave, upon the insistence of my father. He felt there are greater opportunities for me in America than in the Philippines. He felt the country was going nowhere at the way it's run right now.

And so I moved to America. I knew life in America was a whole different change but I was prepared for it. Or so, I thought.

As the months have progressed, I find myself longing and longing for what I have been accustomed to back in Manila. I miss so many stuff that have been a permanent fixture in my life, such as my friends. I miss the night outs, the gimiks, the places my friends and I go to, etc.

And most of all, I miss the girl I loved the most, my Mulan (she looks like Mulan, hehe).

As I now realize, life in America is materially convenient but emotionally difficult. I hardly have friends here. I couldn't get a job (I'm living off my savings right now and it's getting smaller and smaller). I miss a special someone over there in Manila.

Every night, I lie awake on my bed, thinking what could have been if I just stayed. Every night, I lie awake on my bed thinking about her, how she is, what she's doing, and if there's someone else, someone new in her life because I'm no longer physically there for her. Every night, scenes from "Sana Maulit Muli" (out of pathetic depression, I actually bought a VCD of this here and I watch it every so often) flash through my head as I recall how difficult life actually is in America. I see the struggles and I take it to heart each time I see the parallelisms between the scenes and the experiences I have in my life.

But I made a choice. I cannot turn back on this. I have no choice but to live it out now that I'm here. Like what was said in the movie: maraming nagpapakamatay para makapunta dito tapos aalis ako? It's irrational to leave now that I'm here. I guess I just have to be stronger and realize that the sacrifices will eventually pay off.

Totoo nga, malungkot ang buhay Amerika. Kaya lang, kailangang panindigan ko na ito, ngayong nandito na ako.

[Mr. Green Card]

Originally posted by rusyanjill
Well, I always believe that US is not the only place where milk and honey abounds. I also do believe that most Filipinos (esp those who haven't been in the US) have a wrong perception of what's life in the US.

I have nothing against the US. In fact, I indebted to Uncle Sam.

Here, you earn $$$$, you spend $$$$$$$$.
Here, you cannot have the luxury of having your own maid, driver, etc.
Here, you have to do all things by yourself.

I know. I'm learning to live on my own without the conveniences I used to have. But it's okay, I'm getting used to it.

[nothinFancy]

Uhmmm... Marami na ba kayong utang? Hahaha!

[Mr. Green Card]

Originally posted by nothinFancy
Uhmmm... Marami na ba kayong utang? Hahaha!

Utang na loob, marami... :lol:

[soulthird]

ano ba status mo Mr. Green Card? anyway, obvious naman sa user name... hehe. Anyway I think I'll be on your situation a few months from now.

Looking back, would you have gone back here had you known na ganyan?

[luffta]

Originally posted by soulthird


Looking back, would you have gone back here had you known na ganyan? [/B]

Same here....i miss my family and friends a lot but i made a choice to live and work here. First,its not easy to just give up the convenience of having a maid. i don't even know how to use the dishwasher:D ,washing machine and dryer (lahat lumiit).
2nd---its hard to find real friends her
3rd---my boyfriend then broke up with me
4th---which is really the hardest..my mother died 5 years ago and going home is the toughest for me..i cried all the way home...... and now every time the phone rings early in the morning scares me cause it might be another bad news.
i guess the only good thing that happened for me here is that i can provide the monthly financial support my family needs because i have a good job.
looking back...i wish i never came here so i could have spent more time with my mom....and i miss her so much. i don't think i can recover from it ,ever.:~(

[Mr. Green Card]

Originally posted by soulthird
ano ba status mo Mr. Green Card? anyway, obvious naman sa user name... hehe. Anyway I think I'll be on your situation a few months from now.

Looking back, would you have gone back here had you known na ganyan?

I don't know. A part of me's telling me I made the right choice yet another part of me is saying I didn't.

Oh well...

[heymikey]

Originally posted by luffta
which is really the hardest..my mother died 5 years ago and going home is the toughest for me..i cried all the way home...... and now every time the phone rings early in the morning scares me cause it might be another bad news.
That's really sad. :~(
It may be 5 years too late, but I want to offer my condolences.

[clawed_out]

mr. green card, i think we're on the same boat. who knows, we can still bring out the best of what we have here.

[Mr. Green Card]

Originally posted by luffta
Same here....i miss my family and friends a lot but i made a choice to live and work here. First,its not easy to just give up the convenience of having a maid. i don't even know how to use the dishwasher:D ,washing machine and dryer (lahat lumiit).
2nd---its hard to find real friends her
3rd---my boyfriend then broke up with me
4th---which is really the hardest..my mother died 5 years ago and going home is the toughest for me..i cried all the way home...... and now every time the phone rings early in the morning scares me cause it might be another bad news.
i guess the only good thing that happened for me here is that i can provide the monthly financial support my family needs because i have a good job.
looking back...i wish i never came here so i could have spent more time with my mom....and i miss her so much. i don't think i can recover from it ,ever.:~(

My condolences too, luffta.

[Mr. Green Card]

Originally posted by clawed_out
mr. green card, i think we're on the same boat. who knows, we can still bring out the best of what we have here.

Yeah, I hope so too.

[soulthird]

this gives me really valuable insight. You see, I'm leaving for the US next week. I'm doing this not because I have financial needs to fulfill, but as a personal goal I have for myself because I have wanted this since I was in my teens, and also I want to say to myself that at least I've tried if things don't go well. There are certain tradeoffs and I'm letting go of things here in Manila and setting sights on things unknown.

[Mr. Green Card]

Originally posted by soulthird
this gives me really valuable insight. You see, I'm leaving for the US next week. I'm doing this not because I have financial needs to fulfill, but as a personal goal I have for myself because I have wanted this since I was in my teens, and also I want to say to myself that at least I've tried if things don't go well. There are certain tradeoffs and I'm letting go of things here in Manila and setting sights on things unknown.

Good luck!

[coZee]

lumaki ako sa isang typical pinoy family na may relatives sa US. so while i was growing up you hear them telling stories, ang ganda sa amerika, you can buy everything there basta masipag ka tapos dagdagan mo pa ng mga napapanood mo sa tv and movies.
so in a way parang na brainwashed ka na dapat paglaki ko pupunta din ako sa amerika.

fast forward, i finished college and i have a good job that pays well (dollars sweldo)sa pinas but still there is something inside telling me that i must go to the US...and so i did!

now its been couple of years na andito ako sa US. totoo yung mga narinig ko nung bata ako, maganda sa US, you can buy anything basta masipag ka, dami opportunities, etc.
dito natuto ako maging independent, budget your money, clean the apt, the car, i learned how to cook, kung siguro nasa pinas pa ako hanggang ngayon pag prito lang ng itlog ang alam ko.

inspite of all the achievements, material things i have right now, parang may kulang. i miss my friends there, my family, miss the gimiks (nothing beats the nightlife in manila!), miss ko yung kakain ka sa goodah pagkatapos ng gimik (yung mami king dito sa LA hanggang 9pm lang). sabi nga nila you cant have the best of both worlds.

minsan tuloy naiisip ko na bumalik na sa manila, pero pag nakikita ko na pabagsak na economy sa pinas nagdadalawang isip na ako.
i agree with mr green card, life in America is materially convenient but emotionally difficult, unless siguro kasama mo na lahat ng loved ones mo dito.

maswertehan ko lang itong super lotto dito, ill take the next flight available papuntang pinas!

[soulthird]

thanks for sharing your experience CoZee. I guess living there really is a character builder.

[rusyanjill]

Well, I still believe that US is not the only place where milk and honey abound. Malaki ang mundo at sana wag masyadong maging America-centric ang mga Fils. If you have lived some years of your life in the US, like some of us do, malalaman mo ang totoong picture ng US. Bakit maraming US citizens (mostly hindi Pinoy) ang umaalis sa US. Madami ako friends, after college, they went to Japan, China, Africa and Europe to work and find their kingdom. Mga Filipinos naman gagawin lahat makarating lang sa US.

For those who made it in the US despite everything they have been through, I am really proud of you!!!!

Ingat and GOD BLESS sa lahat!!!!

[fartmanfart]

mag pex na lang ng mag pex para di masyadong malungkot. mr.greencard keep us updated ha.

[Melferg]

Mr. Green Card I feel you... I feel the same way. Gimiks, friends and places we go to back home .....and then i ask myself sometimes what will my life would be if i didn't leave the Phil.? You know what? After 13 yrs. of being here... I still ask myself the same question.... but this time... i don't sounds that i have regrets (like before) on coming over here.... because I know I made the right decision.....Now i'm happy and contented with my husband whom i met 10 yrs ago and of course my boys... my two little angels.....So Mr. Green Card just hangin there ...you're only been here 5 months give yourself at least a year or two then if you still feel the same way... no job still or not happy with your job...no friends...no new girlfriend :) in short you still feel "homesick " and miserable. Then U.S. is not for you...I suggest follow what your heart says.....Good Luck to you :) :) :)

[heymikey]

Originally posted by rusyanjill
Madami ako friends, after college, they went to Japan, China, Africa and Europe to work and find their kingdom.
Well, there is a different mentality between young Americans and young Filipinos about life after college. From what I have been seeing, filipinos who grew up in the Philippines have this mentality that after college, you have to go find a job, start having a career, and start making some money. In the US, it is typically different. While there are some who think this way, there are a LOT of young people who think differently. It is true that there are a lot of recent college graduates temporarily moving to a different country, but the reason is not to find the "land of milk and honey". For them, it's not about the money. It's about life experiences. They want to move to a different country to experience culture that is foreign to them. Some do it for a short time like going on a backpacking trip for several months. Some do it longer like working for 5 years. Working in a foreign country does not necessarily mean higher salaries for them. In fact, most of the time, they receive lower salaries to what they might receive in the US.

In other words, people from developing countries move because of better job opportunities and higher salaries. For people in highly developed countries (especially young people nowadays), it's for life experiences. Here in Canada alone, there are a LOT of international youth programs (http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/123go/menu-en.asp) to get young Canadians (maximum age is 30) exposed to foreign cultures.

I agree with you that the US is not the only "land of milk and honey". But, you can't compare the mentality of Americans with that of Filipinos. The reason behind their decision to move to a different country is totally different from filipinos.

[Mr. Green Card]

Originally posted by Melferg
Mr. Green Card I feel you... I feel the same way. Gimiks, friends and places we go to back home .....and then i ask myself sometimes what will my life would be if i didn't leave the Phil.? You know what? After 13 yrs. of being here... I still ask myself the same question.... but this time... i don't sounds that i have regrets (like before) on coming over here.... because I know I made the right decision.....Now i'm happy and contented with my husband whom i met 10 yrs ago and of course my boys... my two little angels.....So Mr. Green Card just hangin there ...you're only been here 5 months give yourself at least a year or two then if you still feel the same way... no job still or not happy with your job...no friends...no new girlfriend :) in short you still feel "homesick " and miserable. Then U.S. is not for you...I suggest follow what your heart says.....Good Luck to you :) :) :)

Thanks...

[seven]

This is what I think....

You guys feel that way because you experienced life in Manila before you came over. But for some who lived most of their lives here, this is indeed the land of milk and honey and this is home. They do not find any reason to go back home to Manila except for vacation.

If most of your family is in Manila, you would definitely feel home sick. But if they are here, there is no reason for you to feel sad, right. So it really depends. If you come here with your family, then you will be fine. But if you come here on your own, unless you lived your life independently before in Manila, then you won't have any problem.

I believe that we Filipinos grew tightly knit as a family and that is the greatest reason that you guys feel depressed and claim that here, it is all about the material things. Well, you left the Philippines for money, right. So that is a real deal. You have to take that as a given.

For me, my family is here except for my brother who prefers to finish college in Manila before he moves back here. He is here every Christmas break and summer vacation. So we see him twice a year and we make sure we chat every night if he is not busy. Aside from that, I am fine. I get stressed, but I make sure I psyche myself to make me feel better. It is all in your mind. Whatever your mind conceives, your body feels.

I suggest you feel good about your decision now. You are here and make the most out of it. We all now that life is as hard as hell. And if we make it even harder, then it is all up to us.

You can live anywhere in the world and realize that your family is by far the greatest gift you will ever have. Yes, you can help them by having a life here and earning enough to support them way back home, but then, if you becaome too sick to even make it to work everyday, then you might as well just go home. I mean, you a earn a little, but you will feel better knowing that you would not have to deal with home-sickness no more.

Always remember that the most important things is life are not things.

As long as you take care of yourself, you make sure your family is emotuionally happy and not just materially fulfilled, then you are fine.

Good luck. God bless. :)

[rabbaddal]

Migrating to the US would be a good time to network with people / organizations that share the same professional, personal and recreational interests with you. It's a good opportunity to keep yourself productive, broaden your horizons, enhance your skills and meet new people all at the same time.

Here in NY, there is CORE - an organization of young Filipino professionals that engages in various business and social activities within the Filipino community. It's one of those organizations where original Pinoys and Fil-Ams work side-by-side. There are probably similar organizations everwhere there is a large Filipino population.

You can also try working with groups that do not have any ethnic theme, but cater to your interests nonetheless. There's a lot of opportunity for personal development in the US if you seek it out.

[luffta]

mr.green card and hey mikey:

thanxs...good luck na lang sa atin dito.

[fRoGgy_buDdY]

Everything's gonna be alright guys.... :)

Life in AMerica, isn't that bad...
well yeah, for me, I think the first two years were the hardest....but I learned that I'm lucky to be here, plenty of jobs, the luxury of driving any car you want, and mahn! I love school here!....with those financial aid I'm getting, I don't think I'll have any of those if I'm in the Philippines....

[pinay24]

Originally posted by rusyanjill
Well, I still believe that US is not the only place where milk and honey abound. Malaki ang mundo at sana wag masyadong maging America-centric ang mga Fils. If you have lived some years of your life in the US, like some of us do, malalaman mo ang totoong picture ng US. Bakit maraming US citizens (mostly hindi Pinoy) ang umaalis sa US. Madami ako friends, after college, they went to Japan, China, Africa and Europe to work and find their kingdom. Mga Filipinos naman gagawin lahat makarating lang sa US.

For those who made it in the US despite everything they have been through, I am really proud of you!!!!

Ingat and GOD BLESS sa lahat!!!!

Life here in America is what we think it is. And it is not true that it is easy to get a job unless na lang if you are welling to accept minimum wage.

I have been livingg here for almost 4 years now & for those of you guys who wants to get here maybe you should think about it first. Try Europian countries instead or Canada. My husband is from Europe & compared here in America, Europe has much far nicer oppurtunities & offer. They look after there citizen, here in America if you don't have any money then you don't get any services, justice etc.

If we think America is the Land of the Free, it is not. It is the absolute opposite, the land of the fee.

UTANG? I don't like mangutang. Yong husband ko has but as for me NO. Very perfect yong credit ko kaya nga daming offer but I don't like being tied up with those credits & credit cards with different companies. Hehehhe

[clawed_out]

how to get a good credit rating?

open up an account (credit card), buy a candy bar at the supermarket using your plastic.

pay it when the bill comes. close the account. :)

[gotcha2]

bakit kaya halos lahat (if not all) of the nurses that has been or still working sa Europe ay gustong mangarap na makakuha ng working visa sa USA. I've known quite a few na nandito na sa Tate and looks like they are more satisfied.
Anong meron sa US na wala sa Europe (beside sa $$$ of course)

[SiOMs]

Originally posted by rabbaddal
Migrating to the US would be a good time to network with people / organizations that share the same professional, personal and recreational interests with you. It's a good opportunity to keep yourself productive, broaden your horizons, enhance your skills and meet new people all at the same time.

Here in NY, there is CORE - an organization of young Filipino professionals that engages in various business and social activities within the Filipino community. It's one of those organizations where original Pinoys and Fil-Ams work side-by-side. There are probably similar organizations everwhere there is a large Filipino population.

You can also try working with groups that do not have any ethnic theme, but cater to your interests nonetheless. There's a lot of opportunity for personal development in the US if you seek it out.

hi i was just wondering where exactly in New York is this org based? kasi my boyfriend's there right now, and he's kinda lonely there. maybe if he met other pinoys who're in the same position as he is, he'll feel better :)

what kind of activities do you do? do you play sports esp. basketball during the weekends? he loves sports kasi and that might be the best way to convince him to at least try joining your org.

many thanks! :D

[heymikey]

Originally posted by gotcha2
Anong meron sa US na wala sa Europe (beside sa $$$ of course)
Lower taxes. Lower prices. Higher income. Probably less racism.

In other words, they will save more $$$ in the US compared to in Europe.

[Mr. Green Card]

Originally posted by gotcha2
bakit kaya halos lahat (if not all) of the nurses that has been or still working sa Europe ay gustong mangarap na makakuha ng working visa sa USA. I've known quite a few na nandito na sa Tate and looks like they are more satisfied.
Anong meron sa US na wala sa Europe (beside sa $$$ of course)

Probably relatives who migrated a long, long time ago. Isn't it a wonder majority of Pinoys normally have kamag-anak in America?

So that makes them desire to move here instead of other places. In a way, they'll feel at home pa rin kahit papano. Eh sa dami ba naman ng Pinoy dito eh...

And besides, America is the "land of opportunity", diba?

[rabbaddal]

Originally posted by SiOMs
hi i was just wondering where exactly in New York is this org based? kasi my boyfriend's there right now, and he's kinda lonely there. maybe if he met other pinoys who're in the same position as he is, he'll feel better :)

what kind of activities do you do? do you play sports esp. basketball during the weekends? he loves sports kasi and that might be the best way to convince him to at least try joining your org.

many thanks! :D

CORE is based in Manhattan.

Most of CORE's activities revolve around professional networking with other young Filipino professionals (doctors, Wall St., etc.), socializing and cultural awareness. CORE members also engage in recreational activities like camping, skiing, etc.

Check out the CORE website for more info:

http://www.core-nyc.org/

Your boyfriend's membership will be very much welcome. Besides being fun, it will also help him build some very useful contacts.

[julie_d]

I think it is a more materialistic society. I am using the word materialistic in a non-judgmental sense. The things you felt you did not need before when you were in the Philippines, you find yourself needing over here.

For instance, in the Philippines, people are happy to stay home during weekends, be with family and friends, talk, watch TV. Happiness is cheap.

Here, you are almost always expected to be doing something cool over the weekend, especially a long weekend. On Mondays, the standard question is -- "What did you do over the weekend?" or "Where did you go for Labor Day weekend?". Staying home just does not cut it anymore (well, because you do not have as much family and friends to entertain you anyway). It is just plain boring to many Americans.

For me, I am reminded why I like the US whenever I see an incredibly good play (I am a theater buff so that makes me happy). See, that requires spending money, too. Gone are the days when being happy just means hanging out with friends for free at your house. Watching a play (or, for other people, shopping, going to theme parks, etc.) gives a different sort of happiness but it need not be superior to the happiness you get from being around a lot of family and friends in the Philippines.

[clawed_out]

that's the norm here in america but it doesn't mean that you have to outdo them on your weekend escapades.

staying home doesn't cut it? well, as ive said...

[Mr. Green Card]

Originally posted by julie_d
I think it is a more materialistic society. I am using the word materialistic in a non-judgmental sense. The things you felt you did not need before when you were in the Philippines, you find yourself needing over here.

For instance, in the Philippines, people are happy to stay home during weekends, be with family and friends, talk, watch TV. Happiness is cheap.

Here, you are almost always expected to be doing something cool over the weekend, especially a long weekend. On Mondays, the standard question is -- "What did you do over the weekend?" or "Where did you go for Labor Day weekend?". Staying home just does not cut it anymore (well, because you do not have as much family and friends to entertain you anyway). It is just plain boring to many Americans.

For me, I am reminded why I like the US whenever I see an incredibly good play (I am a theater buff so that makes me happy). See, that requires spending money, too. Gone are the days when being happy just means hanging out with friends for free at your house. Watching a play (or, for other people, shopping, going to theme parks, etc.) gives a different sort of happiness but it need not be superior to the happiness you get from being around a lot of family and friends in the Philippines.

Hahaha, I was asked about my weekend too! I guess that's common over here. :D

[takawtamayo]

Originally posted by pinay24
Life here in America is what we think it is. And it is not true that it is easy to get a job unless na lang if you are welling to accept minimum wage.

I have been livingg here for almost 4 years now & for those of you guys who wants to get here maybe you should think about it first. Try Europian countries instead or Canada. My husband is from Europe & compared here in America, Europe has much far nicer oppurtunities & offer. They look after there citizen, here in America if you don't have any money then you don't get any services, justice etc.

If we think America is the Land of the Free, it is not. It is the absolute opposite, the land of the fee.

UTANG? I don't like mangutang. Yong husband ko has but as for me NO. Very perfect yong credit ko kaya nga daming offer but I don't like being tied up with those credits & credit cards with different companies. Hehehhe


yeah it's true about Europe--it's an easier life--
and Europeans are more family oriented--
but still each place has it's pros and cons--
i guess it's good to explore frist-if this is possible--
----
and yeah--in the US you ahve to work your butt off--you can't be a Juan Tamad and expect to eat and such..
well well well.. you can't ahve everything i guess

who here is from Hawai-i?

[«FickleMinded»]

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*pexadik*-- I was like MR GreenCard 3+ years ago,and yeah,it really takes a lot of time and pain (emotionally) to adjust here,it feels like "It's Me And Me against the world" and it's really hard for me bec I'm not a houshold person,as in I kow nothing in terms of houskeeping, even pag timpla ng kape in the morning or paghanda ng isusuot kong damit at shoes sa office,mom ko nagaasikaso,my sister always clean my room in exchange of a shopping galore for weekend,but when I moved here,I need to do everything,as in nangangapa ka,yeah,everything is automatic but I don't have any idea how it works,good thing I learn everythng easily,in no time at all,alam ko na lahat gamitin,ngayon nga I can do lot's of things at the same time,i just got lucky bec when i came here,I live in a city,so public transpo is always available,but if you live in sub-urb,you need to rely on others for a while not until you get your own car.So far,right now,I feel comfy na with everything, but of course,i miss my family the most,and my friends where you can visit them anytime you want,unlike here,you need to call them first to make it sure na may dadatnan kang tao sa bahay ,at kung meron naman,you can't stay that long para lang makipagkwentuhan,bec household chorse are waiting to be done,nakakahyang abalahinbut that's how it is!

[takawtamayo]

really? so parang masimportante pa yung house chores kaysa sa friends?

[NewFoundGlory]

it's really hard for me adjusting here... puro work, i don't have social life anymore. huhu. ikaw na kayod, ikaw pa asikaso sa sarili mo. lol. hindi kagaya sa pinas, kung ikaw kakagayod, sitting pretty ka na lang pag-uwi sa house. then.. dahil 6 months pa lang ako here, i don't have so much friends. friends ko lahat gurang. haha. kung may mga bata naman, iba trip sa buhay. pero ok din experience ko dito, i realized na i can be a really strong person and very independent.

[Melferg]

Originally posted by takawtamayo
really? so parang masimportante pa yung house chores kaysa sa friends?

Yah sa pinas nakakarelax ka lagi dito makakarelax ka lang pag wala ka ng chores....pag day-off o weekend laging schedule.. laundry, linis ng bahay, mag grocery, 2 days off are not enough. See ni wala pa yung pasyal nyan pano pa yung relax.....yan ang buhay Amerika...

[Mr. Green Card]

Originally posted by Melferg
Yah sa pinas nakakarelax ka lagi dito makakarelax ka lang pag wala ka ng chores....pag day-off o weekend laging schedule.. laundry, linis ng bahay, mag grocery, 2 days off are not enough. See ni wala pa yung pasyal nyan pano pa yung relax.....yan ang buhay Amerika...

This is so true...

[Ice Burn]

Originally posted by NewFoundGlory
it's really hard for me adjusting here... puro work, i don't have social life anymore. huhu. ikaw na kayod, ikaw pa asikaso sa sarili mo. lol. hindi kagaya sa pinas, kung ikaw kakagayod, sitting pretty ka na lang pag-uwi sa house. then.. dahil 6 months pa lang ako here, i don't have so much friends. friends ko lahat gurang. haha. kung may mga bata naman, iba trip sa buhay. pero ok din experience ko dito, i realized na i can be a really strong person and very independent.

I'm in the same boat. I've been here little over 3 months. I really didn't like it in the US when I went to grad school. I actually went home after grad school despite having job offers. But there's a catchphrase, I said I'll only work in the US if the UN or the World Bank offers me a job. So that's why I am back. I can't renege on such a great opportunity.

I have no friends, no family and no relatives in this State unlike in California where I had relatives. It was really hard at first especially for the first 2 weeks. I actually lived in the sister-in-law of my mom's friend (Whew!) because I had no idea where to go or live. I was going to stay in a hotel but thanks to the goodness of her heart inampon ako and helped me looked for an apartment as well as helped me buy stuff. I'm really grateful to her.

But I'm glad I have met some friends already (thanks to Ateneo's alumni association). Most of the folks there are in their 50's and 60's and konti lang kaming 20's and 30's so we have stuck together and now hang out. I'm the youngest in the group and most of my friends are least 4 years older than me. But it's cool. I am trying to network as much as possible. Meeting people helps alleviate the boredom and loneliness.

As for housechores, well, things have to be done. No maid to do it for me. One thing's for sure, since laki akong sanay sa katulong and the house is always clean, naging OC ako about this. I really keep my apartment clean and orderly.

[«FickleMinded»]

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*pexadik*-- it's not really like that,but of course if you are the visitor,you feel awkward naman na while your friends talk to you she also doing some stuff at the same time,kaya usually,they really set a date ulike sa pinas na you can drop by at their house anytme,or just call your friends for some lakwatsa and that's it,here,it's totally different.

[takawtamayo]

Originally posted by «FickleMinded»
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*pexadik*-- it's not really like that,but of course if you are the visitor,you feel awkward naman na while your friends talk to you she also doing some stuff at the same time,kaya usually,they really set a date ulike sa pinas na you can drop by at their house anytme,or just call your friends for some lakwatsa and that's it,here,it's totally different.

sabagay maiilang ka nga kung nakaupo ka lang don.

Yah sa pinas nakakarelax ka lagi dito makakarelax ka lang pag wala ka ng chores....pag day-off o weekend laging schedule.. laundry, linis ng bahay, mag grocery, 2 days off are not enough. See ni wala pa yung pasyal nyan pano pa yung relax.....yan ang buhay Amerika...

and i thought my life was fast-paced--generally speaking life there sounds pretty fast

[takawtamayo]

Originally posted by «FickleMinded»
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*pexadik*-- it's not really like that,but of course if you are the visitor,you feel awkward naman na while your friends talk to you she also doing some stuff at the same time,kaya usually,they really set a date ulike sa pinas na you can drop by at their house anytme,or just call your friends for some lakwatsa and that's it,here,it's totally different.

sabagay maiilang ka nga kung nakaupo ka lang don.

Yah sa pinas nakakarelax ka lagi dito makakarelax ka lang pag wala ka ng chores....pag day-off o weekend laging schedule.. laundry, linis ng bahay, mag grocery, 2 days off are not enough. See ni wala pa yung pasyal nyan pano pa yung relax.....yan ang buhay Amerika...

and i thought my life was fast-paced--generally speaking life there sounds pretty fast

[«FickleMinded»]

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*pexadik*-- yung iba kasing mga nagbabalikbayan masyadong exaggerated kung makapagkwento,kesyo mura lang daw ang bilihin,pero hindi naman sinasabi kung magkano sweldo nila at kung saan saan sila namimlli(baka hanggang thridt store or wal-mart lang ang bilhan nila),or sasabihin madali lang maghanap ng trabaho, hindi naman sinasabi kung ano trabaho nila,kaya tuloy ang US overrated masyado sa 'pinas.

[Melferg]

Originally posted by «FickleMinded»
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*pexadik*-- yung iba kasing mga nagbabalikbayan masyadong exaggerated kung makapagkwento,kesyo mura lang daw ang bilihin,pero hindi naman sinasabi kung magkano sweldo nila at kung saan saan sila namimlli(baka hanggang thridt store or wal-mart lang ang bilhan nila),or sasabihin madali lang maghanap ng trabaho, hindi naman sinasabi kung ano trabaho nila,kaya tuloy ang US overrated masyado sa 'pinas.

Maraming trabaho kung hindi ka mamimili at saka yung mga nagbabalikbayan tama ka puro walmart at thrift town lang yun...kung marami kang pasasalubungan( syempre marami para sikat ka ) magmimili ka ba sa Macys o Nordstrom? lahat ng pasalubong mo doon mo bibilhin? i doubt it Max kagad ang credit card mo.

[clawed_out]

melfreg: madaming trabaho? if you like to work as a food server, yes.

pero kung medyo technical ang line of work mo eh medyo mahirap din ang opening. maski yata clerical mahirap din eh.

[pinay24]

And I gree na madaming work if you don't mind working for a minimum wage & be a servant but when it comes to technical & some professional works here you can hardly find a job. Yong iba nga na matagal ng nagtatrbaho sa kumpanya & to think na they are one of the best in their field nalalay-off pa rin.

Mostly yong successful na pinoy dito ang iyong mga nurses or those who get lucky working for a prominent company na medyo matagal na sa kumpanya. The rest naghihirap din and to think na most of the filipinos who went back sa Pinas are very proud at treated as somebody di lang nila alam baka medyo naghirap pa sila pagpunta dito.

Ang hirap kasi sa ating mga pinoy eh ayaw nating tumanggap ng pagkatalo at failures kaya gagawin lahat wag lang makita ng iba na naghihirap din ang buhay. Let us just be honest seguro madaming pinoy na nandito sa US na nakatira sa isang bubong kung saan marami ang nakatira and not in a nice area.

I actually know some filipinos who are working in some stores & you can see it that they don't like their jobs but I guess they don't have a choice but to get that jobs or else they don't have a job at all. Makikita mo na nakasimangot yong mukha pag may customer.


Originally posted by Melferg
Maraming trabaho kung hindi ka mamimili at saka yung mga nagbabalikbayan tama ka puro walmart at thrift town lang yun...kung marami kang pasasalubungan( syempre marami para sikat ka ) magmimili ka ba sa Macys o Nordstrom? lahat ng pasalubong mo doon mo bibilhin? i doubt it Max kagad ang credit card mo.

Sorry but I don't buy stuff from thrift stores not even walmart. Wag namang ganyan insulto naman iyan sa iba. Anyway I bought my stuff from Macys and bath & body works, yves rocher, victorias secret & make sure it is of good quality- yes but I make sure I set the right amount that I have to spend. Since this is my frist time to send them package there & I make sure it would be sulit naman.

Mura nga ba ang bilihin dito? Hay ewan ko lang kabaligtaran naman ata. Ni mismong star fruits nga na ipinamimigay lang sa amin kahit 10 pa gusto mo. Dito nakakabili lang ako ng 1=$3.99. Lahat dito mahal unless na nga lang if you go to thrift stores & live sa not nice area where everything you can get very cheap.

[Melferg]

Hello.... ang walmart kahit saan mo makikita kahit pa sa nice neighborhood at saka porket ba thrift town akala mo cheap lang. May mga celebrity nga namimili sa mga second hand store kung naghahanap sila ng "Vintage" stuff. At saka pwede ba magpakatotoo na lang hindi insulto ang mamili don thats what you call "Smart Buying". Pati toiletries mo sa Macys at Victoria Secret mo binibili. Bumibili ka rin sa Target. Albertson, Safeway at Kmart. Kaya ang Walmart alam mo rin bumili dyan. Kung ang pinapasalubong mo sa atin ay binibili mo pa don sa Macys., well siguro marami kang pera at mahilig ka lang sa signature.

[Melferg]

Originally posted by clawed_out
melfreg: madaming trabaho? if you like to work as a food server, yes.

pero kung medyo technical ang line of work mo eh medyo mahirap din ang opening. maski yata clerical mahirap din eh.

Ano bang sabi ko maraming trabaho kung hindi kayo mamimili....
Ako kasi pag dating ko dito wala pang 2 Weeks nakapag trabaho na ako hanggang dumami na ang source ko marami ka ng mapapasukan kasi may mag rerecomend na sayo...

[Melferg]

Originally posted by clawed_out
melfreg: madaming trabaho? if you like to work as a food server, yes.

pero kung medyo technical ang line of work mo eh medyo mahirap din ang opening. maski yata clerical mahirap din eh.

Kahit anong trabaho i try nyo para lang stepping stone para makita sa record ninyo na may experience na kayong nagtrabaho dito, then magkakaron na kayo ng source malay nyo matyempuhan nyo yung linya na gusto nyo.....

[Lightspeed]

Technical, clerical, customer service and even some higher-end jobs kagaya ng accounting, HR, medical support, IT and even marketing are increasingly being outsourced to India and the Philippines.

Dito sa Pinas, everyday padami ng padami ang mga jobs related to the outsourcing wave.

Siguro naman hindi mawawalan ng trabaho diyan sa Amerika dahil malaki naman 'yang economy.

I agree that the nurses, teachers and other service-related jobs ang magiging malakas sa Amerika. Pero other than these jobs na kailangan talaga ng human presence, I think most jobs in the U.S. can be outsourced sa Pinas.

[starchase]

Originally posted by Melferg
Hello.... ang walmart kahit saan mo makikita kahit pa sa nice neighborhood at saka porket ba thrift town akala mo cheap lang. May mga celebrity nga namimili sa mga second hand store kung naghahanap sila ng "Vintage" stuff. At saka pwede ba magpakatotoo na lang hindi insulto ang mamili don thats what you call "Smart Buying". Pati toiletries mo sa Macys at Victoria Secret mo binibili. Bumibili ka rin sa Target. Albertson, Safeway at Kmart. Kaya ang Walmart alam mo rin bumili dyan. Kung ang pinapasalubong mo sa atin ay binibili mo pa don sa Macys., well siguro marami kang pera at mahilig ka lang sa signature.

You're right Melferg...mayayabang lang ang nagsasabi na hindi sila namimili sa Walmart. I grew up here and this my home, i'd say I have a good job and happy with my job but of course naman dito rin ako nagstudy, simula sophomore. And yes we shop at walmart, k-mart, target, and costco.

The only time I'd go to Macys is when they are having a big sale like 50-60% off, crazy lang ang magshop sa macys and pay full price.

Experience in America...ang remember ko lang na di ko like is..we came here in the land of the opportunity on Sept. 20, 1981.. and guess what?..school had just started..bummer...I know for a fact that most pilipinos know how to speak and undertand english after all we were required to speak english at our school back home so i thought this US migration thingy would be a piece of cake..but let me tell you this.. when I got to school and the children started talking to me I would always find myself staring at them..you know why? I couldn't understand a word they say.

Fortunately for me I had a pilipino teacher who helped me out and introduced me to other pilipinos so everything was fine after that. I felt like home again. Yes I missed my friends back home too but my whole family were here with me so I didn't get too homesick.

Tagalog ang salita namin sa bahay, so ang mga anak ko ay marunong magtalog kahit medyo barok. May youngest brother who came with us at the age of 7 is still fluent sa tagalog specially when he's speaking with the tiyas and the tiyos.

Oh yeah..haven't gone back to pinas since '85 la lang di pa lang nagkaron ulit ng opportunity to go back..maybe when my folks retires back home.

Sabi ni pinay24 siguro marami dito na nagsasama sa isang bubong and not in the nice place siguro nga..we started that way din..pero sa simula lang yun..after few years isa isa na kaming magkakapatid na nakabili ng bahay namin in a nice place..after we all got a job of course and besides nothing is wrong with sharing a place with your family?...

[clawed_out]

some people have standards, i'm sorry to burst your bubble.

some people are not smart shoppers they go for what they like, not what's cheap.

i dont either shop at walmart & kmart. i dont like their items. cheaply made- pwera yung groceries but they dont have the best bargains either. i like costco & target better.

so what kung puro ok at high end brands ang gamit mo? eh kung yun ang standards at taste mo eh. is there something wrong with that? does it matter if you can effortlessly support that kind of lifestyle?

melfreg, with all due respect. what you are implying is to get whatever with all your kung hindi ka mapili type of reasoning kaya nilinaw ko lang.

i'm not like you & likewise. like pinay, i try to aim a little higher. (& shop at whatever store that catches my fancy)

mapa barney's to saks fifth pa siya or thrift store.

so, aim high.(companies won't hire you if you dont meet the specified work related knowledge & experience- remember that you are competing with an unknown number of people, a good word from someone "inside" helps a little). now, do you need to be a cum laude to serve fries with that?

[Mr. Green Card]

Originally posted by starchase
You're right Melferg...mayayabang lang ang nagsasabi na hindi sila namimili sa Walmart. I grew up here and this my home, i'd say I have a good job and happy with my job but of course naman dito rin ako nagstudy, simula sophomore. And yes we shop at walmart, k-mart, target, and costco.

The only time I'd go to Macys is when they are having a big sale like 50-60% off, crazy lang ang magshop sa macys and pay full price.

Experience in America...ang remember ko lang na di ko like is..we came here in the land of the opportunity on Sept. 20, 1981.. and guess what?..school had just started..bummer...I know for a fact that most pilipinos know how to speak and undertand english after all we were required to speak english at our school back home so i thought this US migration thingy would be a piece of cake..but let me tell you this.. when I got to school and the children started talking to me I would always find myself staring at them..you know why? I couldn't understand a word they say.

Fortunately for me I had a pilipino teacher who helped me out and introduced me to other pilipinos so everything was fine after that. I felt like home again. Yes I missed my friends back home too but my whole family were here with me so I didn't get too homesick.

Tagalog ang salita namin sa bahay, so ang mga anak ko ay marunong magtalog kahit medyo barok. May youngest brother who came with us at the age of 7 is still fluent sa tagalog specially when he's speaking with the tiyas and the tiyos.

Oh yeah..haven't gone back to pinas since '85 la lang di pa lang nagkaron ulit ng opportunity to go back..maybe when my folks retires back home.

Sabi ni pinay24 siguro marami dito na nagsasama sa isang bubong and not in the nice place siguro nga..we started that way din..pero sa simula lang yun..after few years isa isa na kaming magkakapatid na nakabili ng bahay namin in a nice place..after we all got a job of course and besides nothing is wrong with sharing a place with your family?...

I know what you mean regarding understanding the American english. I think it's more of the pronounciation and diction that confuses us rather than understanding the words.

As for Walmart, Target, Costco, K-Mart and such stores, well we all want to get the best of our dollars, diba? But I wouldn't mind shopping at Macy's, now that I'm getting an employee discount (20% off + whatever sale promo they have!). :D

[«FickleMinded»]

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Originally posted by pinay24
Sorry but I don't buy stuff from thrift stores not even walmart. Wag namang ganyan insulto naman iyan sa iba. Anyway I bought my stuff from Macys and bath & body works, yves rocher, victorias secret & make sure it is of good quality- yes but I make sure I set the right amount that I have to spend. Since this is my frist time to send them package there & I make sure it would be sulit naman.

Mura nga ba ang bilihin dito? Hay ewan ko lang kabaligtaran naman ata. Ni mismong star fruits nga na ipinamimigay lang sa amin kahit 10 pa gusto mo. Dito nakakabili lang ako ng 1=$3.99. Lahat dito mahal unless na nga lang if you go to thrift stores & live sa not nice area where everything you can get very cheap.
--hindi ko naman sinabing cheap ang mamili sa mga thrift store or wal-mart,dahil kahit ako eh namimili din naman sa mga ganon,I even bought a stuff from a Dollar Store,ang ibig kong sabihin,yung mga nagbabalikbayan,lalo na yung medyo may kahanginan kung makapagkwento masyadong exaggerated,example mamimili ng mga key-chain.baseball cap or any souvenir stuff sa wal-mart na kunwari eh label ng iba-ibang State at ipamamalita na nakarating sila doon.
Tapos meron din sasabihin madaling makabili ng bahay,of course it's true,pero hindi naman nila sasabihin na nung unang dating nila dito eh nakatira sila kung hindi sa garage ng kamag-anak eh sa basement,or nakikitira muna pansamantala,and I'm not talking about those who can afford to rent a $1k studion in SF kahit kararating lang,kung talagan naman can afford,why not di ba?at saka iba dito kesa sa 'pinas, hindi tinitingnan ang pagkatao mo thru the brand of your stuff,so why bother to tell your friends and family in the Phils. where do you really bought it,not unless,yun nga medyo "pasikat" effect :rolleyes:
I'm talking abt "exaggeration" here,not the way you live your life in US,kaya yung mga nakakarining ng kwento akala nila ganon kadali mag-start ng buhay dito.

[bluerunner]

this is just my opinion...

kung sanay ka talaga sa luho, may maid sa bahay, lahat ng household chores may gumagawa para sa iyo, then i guess mahihirapan ka talaga sa US... been there for 4 months for company training, and i can honestly say na nagustuhan ko ang way of living sa US, kasi nga dito sa Pilipinas sanay ako sa hirap, sanay akong kayod ng kayod, lahat ng household chores kaming member ng pamilya ang gumagawa... so di na mahirap sa akin ang mag-adjust...

[«FickleMinded»]

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Originally posted by Melferg
Kahit anong trabaho i try nyo para lang stepping stone para makita sa record ninyo na may experience na kayong nagtrabaho dito, then magkakaron na kayo ng source malay nyo matyempuhan nyo yung linya na gusto nyo.....
--this is so true, bec actually they don't need your experience naman bec they can train you,but the need a reference to inquire abt your attitude in work,plus having a local job experience is a plus.

[Mr. Green Card]

Originally posted by bluerunner
this is just my opinion...

kung sanay ka talaga sa luho, may maid sa bahay, lahat ng household chores may gumagawa para sa iyo, then i guess mahihirapan ka talaga sa US... been there for 4 months for company training, and i can honestly say na nagustuhan ko ang way of living sa US, kasi nga dito sa Pilipinas sanay ako sa hirap, sanay akong kayod ng kayod, lahat ng household chores kaming member ng pamilya ang gumagawa... so di na mahirap sa akin ang mag-adjust...

Sanay din ako sa mga maid dati. Pero ngayon ayos lang, madali ko namang natutunan yung mga household chores eh. Minsan nga lang, nakakatamad magluto! :D At hindi ako marunong magplantsa so puro "wrinkle free" na lang binibili ko! :lol:

[starchase]

Originally posted by clawed_out
some people have standards, i'm sorry to burst your bubble.

some people are not smart shoppers they go for what they like, not what's cheap.

i dont either shop at walmart & kmart. i dont like their items. cheaply made- pwera yung groceries but they dont have the best bargains either. i like costco & target better.

so what kung puro ok at high end brands ang gamit mo? eh kung yun ang standards at taste mo eh. is there something wrong with that? does it matter if you can effortlessly support that kind of lifestyle?

melfreg, with all due respect. what you are implying is to get whatever with all your kung hindi ka mapili type of reasoning kaya nilinaw ko lang.

i'm not like you & likewise. like pinay, i try to aim a little higher. (& shop at whatever store that catches my fancy)

mapa barney's to saks fifth pa siya or thrift store.

so, aim high.(companies won't hire you if you dont meet the specified work related knowledge & experience- remember that you are competing with an unknown number of people, a good word from someone "inside" helps a little). now, do you need to be a cum laude to serve fries with that?

sure if you can really support that kind of lifestyle why not?..kasi I know a lot of pilipinos na always complaining na marami silang utang..left and right pero ang gamit nila signature, hindi ko naman malalaman na signature ang mga yon if they didn't tell me..kasi they all look reg. Ako i'm happy to say na ang utang ko lang ay ang bahay ko. I do use credit card but just enought na i can pay it in full by the end of the month...kasi I need to eh to keep my credit score high. Sa line of work ko credit history is important..they check it before they hire you.

aim high..well I really don't see the connection bet. that and buying expensive stuff...you see when you go on an interview the interviewer doesn't ask whether you use signature or not or where you shop...ang importante sa kanila is how you sell yourself and how presentable you are and if you look confident and you look professional.

[clawed_out]

sorry, pero that's in response to his job preference. & no, it obviously has no relevance with the brands you choose. :lol:


fickleminded, sorry but you are wrong. work related experience counts a lot in order for you to be hired. that's one of the criteria they look while scanning resumes.

the training you'll be given is about what system the company uses & the what the culture of the company is. when you are hired, you are expected to have the required skills needed for the job, all you need is minor adjustments to fit in the company.

hindi ka nila tuturuan ng database sa training mo, you're expected to be a master of it.

[starchase]

Originally posted by clawed_out
sorry, pero that's in response to his job preference. & no, it obviously has no relevance with the brands you choose. :lol:


fickleminded, sorry but you are wrong. work related experience counts a lot in order for you to be hired. that's one of the criteria they look while scanning resumes.

the training you'll be given is about what system the company uses & the what the culture of the company is. when you are hired, you are expected to have the required skills needed for the job, all you need is minor adjustments to fit in the company.

hindi ka nila tuturuan ng database sa training mo, you're expected to be a master of it.

correct ka dyan..sa work namin one of the requirements is :experience is a must.

[heymikey]

Originally posted by clawed_out
sorry, pero that's in response to his job preference. & no, it obviously has no relevance with the brands you choose. :lol:


fickleminded, sorry but you are wrong. work related experience counts a lot in order for you to be hired. that's one of the criteria they look while scanning resumes.

the training you'll be given is about what system the company uses & the what the culture of the company is. when you are hired, you are expected to have the required skills needed for the job, all you need is minor adjustments to fit in the company.

hindi ka nila tuturuan ng database sa training mo, you're expected to be a master of it.

There seems to be a lot of misunderstandings here. I'm not sure if people really understand what the others are saying.

(1) First of all, what Melferg was saying was that there are a lot of jobs out there IF you are not picky and IF working at a fast food store or at Wal-Mart is not a problem for you. Please take into consideration those IF statements.

(2) When fickleminded said that "work experience" was not necessary, he/she was implying about service-oriented jobs like being a cashier at Wal-Mart, etc. I don't think he/she was implying that you don't need work experience or even a formal training to become a neurosurgeon or a nuclear scientist. Let's face it, America isn't the Philippines where you need to be a college graduate to work at a call center. Some jobs don't need work experience.

While I do agree with what you said that it is hard to find a job if you are specific in what kind of jobs you want, and those specific jobs require work experience, Melerg and fickleMinded were talking about a different class of jobs -- something you probably aren't interested in.

[altair]

talk about north american pinoys being pabo


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[Melferg]

To those people who didn't know where is this shopping conversation come from...We're talking about "Pasalubong" you sent to the Phil. where do you shop?. If im going to shop at those" Luxury" store that they mention, its going to be for me not for me to send it to the Phil.(ano ko hilo). This is a thread for "Buhay Amerika" not whether you shop for signature or not. And may i say people here shoudn't give sermon and tell other people what they should do in their lives, it's their's not yours. Mr GreenCard who make this tread is still adjusting and still dont know whether he'll like US or not. Your experience and good advice is the one asked here, not your shopping escapades.

As for job topics its not about interest its about exposing yourself to get source for the job you're targetting at the same time meeting new friends to fight the word "Homesick". Mr. GreenCard is only been here for less than a year he can't just soar right away. Mr. GreenCard this is for you "establish" and take one day at a time, didn't i say give yourself a year or 2..... then you won't need our opinion.... you will be able to answer that to yourself....To all of you Good Luck and PEACE:)

[grumpybear]

Originally posted by altair
talk about north american pinoys being pabo


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/kwanghwamun/daehan_wayguk_dislike_1.jpg

Ano'ng pabo?

[clawed_out]

Originally posted by heymikey
There seems to be a lot of misunderstandings here. I'm not sure if people really understand what the others are saying.

(1) First of all, what Melferg was saying was that there are a lot of jobs out there IF you are not picky and IF working at a fast food store or at Wal-Mart is not a problem for you. Please take into consideration those IF statements.

(2) When fickleminded said that "work experience" was not necessary, he/she was implying about service-oriented jobs like being a cashier at Wal-Mart, etc. I don't think he/she was implying that you don't need work experience or even a formal training to become a neurosurgeon or a nuclear scientist. Let's face it, America isn't the Philippines where you need to be a college graduate to work at a call center. Some jobs don't need work experience.

While I do agree with what you said that it is hard to find a job if you are specific in what kind of jobs you want, and those specific jobs require work experience, Melerg and fickleMinded were talking about a different class of jobs -- something you probably aren't interested in.


maybe it's you who just got it.

all i'm saying is aim high. (& yes, i am not interested in taking jobs away from highschool kids here).

melfreg, hindi mo ba nagpagtanto na the thing that you call "shopping escapades" eh parte din ng buhay amerika?


grumpybear, pabo= turkey. loud & annoying or maybe something else. (the person who said that happens to hate/ dislike america & almost everything that's related to usa).

on being homesick

the thing is you will have friends along the way, it is up to you wether you're open to expanding your horizon. & eventually learn how to accept what you have and get the most out of it.


more with life being restarted

it's all in our determination to succeed. how? only you can answer that.

[heymikey]

Originally posted by clawed_out
maybe it's you who just got it.
Yeah, I got that feeling too. :eek:

[Mr. Green Card]

Originally posted by Melferg
To those people who didn't know where is this shopping conversation come from...We're talking about "Pasalubong" you sent to the Phil. where do you shop?. If im going to shop at those" Luxury" store that they mention, its going to be for me not for me to send it to the Phil.(ano ko hilo). This is a thread for "Buhay Amerika" not whether you shop for signature or not. And may i say people here shoudn't give sermon and tell other people what they should do in their lives, it's their's not yours. Mr GreenCard who make this tread is still adjusting and still dont know whether he'll like US or not. Your experience and good advice is the one asked here, not your shopping escapades.

As for job topics its not about interest its about exposing yourself to get source for the job you're targetting at the same time meeting new friends to fight the word "Homesick". Mr. GreenCard is only been here for less than a year he can't just soar right away. Mr. GreenCard this is for you "establish" and take one day at a time, didn't i say give yourself a year or 2..... then you won't need our opinion.... you will be able to answer that to yourself....To all of you Good Luck and PEACE:)

Haha, salamat sa pagbati!

[clawed_out]

it's almost halloween. masaya kapag halloween, try attending halloween parties.

& december- march are good months to ski/snowboard. medyo may kamahalan ng konti but it's fun.

[heymikey]

Originally posted by clawed_out
it's almost halloween. masaya kapag halloween, try attending halloween parties.
Yeah... dess up in a costume and go trick-or-treating. I loved that when I was a kid. I'm sure you will love it too.

[Melferg]

I think job here in the US is
50% experience 50% luck

My sister is a registered nurse sa PI, she took bar exams 4 times and she keep on failing so nasa level pa rin sya ng mga aid nurses.

My sister -in- law freshly graduate nakapasa kagad ngayun nurse na sya Stanford

My husband doesn't know anything about technical staff he's previous job is not even related, he used to work in restaurant but now he's been working for DELL for 5 years as a Computer Technician.

I had a friend Archi graduate nagsimula sa mervyns and i think networking na ....

[grumpybear]

Originally posted by clawed_out
grumpybear, pabo= turkey. loud & annoying or maybe something else. (the person who said that happens to hate/ dislike america & almost everything that's related to usa).


thanks clawed_out

[grumpybear]

The one thing I regret is that I never learned how to cook. So now I have to call my Mom, who's in Manila, every once in a while so that she could teach me how to cook some dishes.

[Krakista]

Originally posted by Melferg
My sister is a registered nurse sa PI, she took bar exams 4 times and she keep on failing so nasa level pa rin sya ng mga aid nurses. Siguro kailangan niya munang mag-aral ng law 'no para makapasa sa bar exams ... :bonkself:

[«FickleMinded»]

http://www.miamihost.net/ims/u/SweetPea_no8/Dolls/snoopy.gif
Originally posted by clawed_out
sorry, pero that's in response to his job preference. & no, it obviously has no relevance with the brands you choose. :lol:


fickleminded, sorry but you are wrong. work related experience counts a lot in order for you to be hired. that's one of the criteria they look while scanning resumes.

the training you'll be given is about what system the company uses & the what the culture of the company is. when you are hired, you are expected to have the required skills needed for the job, all you need is minor adjustments to fit in the company.

--I might partially wrong but it doesn't mean you are 100% right,like what heymikey said,I was referring to a service-oriented job,not a rocket-scientist-type-of-job or to be a Microsoft CEO maybe, what I'm trying to point out is,IF you just arrived here in US,regardless of how many Diploma/degree (esp if it was from the Phils.) you carry with you everytime you apply for a job,most of the company don't really give a single $hit about it, they will asked for your reference(local job experience) so they have someone to called and inquire abt your job attitude, ie if you are easy to get along with,early at work etc..etc..Of course most of us here want to aim high and to achieve what they called "american dreams" but I guess the thread topic was about "buhay amerika" at an early stage.
hindi ka nila tuturuan ng database sa training mo, you're expected to be a master of it.
--this one,I'm not really sure abt it, usually all you need is a hs diploma or GED,and in no time at all if you really work hard and your boss think you really deserved it,you might find your self on top of the corporate ladder.

[«FickleMinded»]

http://www.miamihost.net/ims/u/SweetPea_no8/Dolls/snoopy.gif
Originally posted by starchase
correct ka dyan..sa work namin one of the requirements is :experience is a must.
--of course,they expect you to have a work experience,if you are applying for a big time dot com company, like at least you already know how pc works, but if you only applying as a data entry or data encoder to some car dealer or any small business out there,I don't think "experience" is a must!

[Melferg]

Originally posted by «FickleMinded»
http://www.miamihost.net/ims/u/SweetPea_no8/Dolls/snoopy.gif

--I might partially wrong but it doesn't mean you are 100% right,like what heymikey said,I was referring to a service-oriented job,not a rocket-scientist-type-of-job or to be a Microsoft CEO maybe, what I'm trying to point out is,IF you just arrived here in US,regardless of how many Diploma/degree (esp if it was from the Phils.) you carry with you everytime you apply for a job,most of the company don't really give a single $hit about it, they will asked for your reference(local job experience) so they have someone to called and inquire abt your job attitude, ie if you are easy to get along with,early at work etc..etc..Of course most of us here want to aim high and to achieve what they called "american dreams" but I guess the thread topic was about "buhay amerika" at an early stage.

--this one,I'm not really sure abt it, usually all you need is a hs diploma or GED,and in no time at all if you really work hard and your boss think you really deserved it,you might find your self on top of the corporate ladder.

Correct!!! Kaya di nila ma gets ang mga sinasabi ko eh....early stage in the US., read the previous post ...before u comment. kaya na left and right na yung topic...like the word Wal-mart nag come up lang naman yun ng pagusapan ang pasalubong sa PI, i didnt say mag apply ka sa Wal-mart( sa target lang hehehhe joke joke). Kaya yung "shopping escapades" iba sa topic ng looking for a job in the US.

[Melferg]

Originally posted by Krakista
Siguro kailangan niya munang mag-aral ng law 'no para makapasa sa bar exams ... :bonkself:
hahhah sshh wawa naman my sister papasa rin yun love ko yun ....pag nakapasa yun "doktor " na :)

[Melferg]

Originally posted by Krakista
Siguro kailangan niya munang mag-aral ng law 'no para makapasa sa bar exams ... :bonkself:

kaya pala nurse sister hindi makapasa bar exam pala kinuha eh hhahahhaha

[clawed_out]

Originally posted by grumpybear
The one thing I regret is that I never learned how to cook. So now I have to call my Mom, who's in Manila, every once in a while so that she could teach me how to cook some dishes.


grumpybear: first step, learn how to boil water. then next dish woul dbe hard boiled eggs. hehehehe

next chapter eh pritong pagkain. :)

it's easy to cook, it's like learning how to ride a bike. you might not get it for the first time but if you keep on trying you'll be good at it.

[Mr. Green Card]

Originally posted by grumpybear
The one thing I regret is that I never learned how to cook. So now I have to call my Mom, who's in Manila, every once in a while so that she could teach me how to cook some dishes.

Mag-de lata ka na lang! O kaya "microwaveable" dishes! That's what I always do. It's either that or I just buy food from restaurants. :p

[pinay24]

Originally posted by starchase
You're right Melferg...mayayabang lang ang nagsasabi na hindi sila namimili sa Walmart. The only time I'd go to Macys is when they are having a big sale like 50-60% off, crazy lang ang magshop sa macys and pay full price.

Crazy? I don't think so - I said to my husband one time that he does not have to buy me a certain product( perfume at that time $100+ from Macy's because I think it is too expensive. He replied back to me " WHY NOT IF I CAN AFFORD IT?" " IF you like it & you can afford it , why shouldn't you have it?"

Originally posted by Melferg
Hello.... ang walmart kahit saan mo makikita kahit pa sa nice neighborhood at saka porket ba thrift town akala mo cheap lang. May mga celebrity nga namimili sa mga second hand store kung naghahanap sila ng "Vintage" stuff. At saka pwede ba magpakatotoo na lang hindi insulto ang mamili don thats what you call "Smart Buying". Pati toiletries mo sa Macys at Victoria Secret mo binibili. Bumibili ka rin sa Target. Albertson, Safeway at Kmart. Kaya ang Walmart alam mo rin bumili dyan. Kung ang pinapasalubong mo sa atin ay binibili mo pa don sa Macys., well siguro marami kang pera at mahilig ka lang sa signature.

Hello- porke ba't I don't buy or shop at walmart mayabang na? Why would I bother to shop at walmart & waste my 20 minutes drive means almost an hours wasted time back & forth( 8 miles away from my place base on the internet if I can just go to the nearest shopping malls(Beverly center, century city, Rodeo) in a matter of 10 minutes even less & buy some things out there where I am safe pa. And it is my own money naman that I spend. I don't owe anyone or borrowed any money para lang makabili ng gusto ko. Basta ba hindi ako sakit sa ulo o pwerhisyo sa ibang tao. Di rin sa mahilig ako sa signatured I just go for quality lang talaga especially sa mga toiletries since I have a very sensitive skin.

And what I was referring to ng sabihin kong "Wag namang ganyan insulto naman iyan sa iba". when one person said " kung saan saan sila namimlli(baka hanggang thridt store or wal-mart lang ang bilhan nila Any fickeminded gets ko na kung anong ibig mong sabihin.


PEACE baka kung saan ang punta nito.

[lechon x]

2 words lang po:

colonial mentality

or

utak talangka

:D

[Cassiejane42]

Hi nabasa ko lahat ang mga post dito from page 1 to 3.. But una magpapasalamat ako kay Melferg.. dahil siya ang nagturo ng daan papunta dito or pauwing Maynila sa sulok ng Internet na kinalalagyan natin ngayun lahat..

Ibabahagi ko rin sa inyo ang aking karanasan kung sakaling mahaba man at meron kayong time magbasa dahil.. Baka ako ang pinaka may mahabang panahon na dito sa America.. Kung sa hirap at lungkot na nararanasan ninyo sa ngayun.. I been there.. Done that.. Pero isa lang ang talagang kaya kong ipagmalaki bilang isang Pilipina na naka-tira sa lupa ng Banyaga Since November 1986.. Hanggang ngayun hindi ko pa rin pina-palitan ang Pilipino Citizenship ko.. dahil puwede ka namang magtrabaho dito. nang hindi ka U.S. Citizen mag-apply ka lang for 5 or 10 sa U.S Embassy they give you one.. Americano ang asawa ko.. at may isa akong anak.. dumating ako dito sa America ni ang mag-drive hindi ako marunong.. ngayun kung may sakit ang anak ko at talagang Emergency.. pati yata ang Four wheel drive truck ay ma-i-drive ko.. dahil iyan ang una kong natutunan dito how to survive, kung ang asawa mo ay U.S Military in Navy department, and you are all alone in every six months cruise, crying every night will not help you and do any good.. if you dont know how to drive you can't find a job.. Kung maghahanap ka nang trabaho at nag-bus ka lang at kung may appointment ka at you need to be there on time for an Interviews at nag-bus ka lang dahil wala kang pera para mg taxi.. Then you better say bye-bye to that job..

marami pa akong naging karanasan na puwede ninyong maging guide for your strength and I am all ears to help you .. dahil maituturing kong survivor ako dito sa America.. ang ibang mga kalahi - kong Pilipina na nag-Internet I just turn them down a couple of months ago after trying to help them and guide them how live in Stranges Land.. But they choice to betrayed me after they got all the informations they need.. They thought they had enough information.. But they we're wrong.. So kung meron kayong magiging tanong at kung paano ako na ka-survive sa Lungkot.. I am willing to help out to ease some pain of loneliness.. Alam ko na ang maging Tanong nang iba .. siguro.. Why until now I am still Pilipino citizenship.. that i will wait who asked first.. Oh, di ba.. suspences thriller na agad..

again nice knowing you all.. lalo na si Melferg.. Thank you for being such a nice new friends..

[Mr. Green Card]

Hay... Ang lungkot talaga ng Buhay Amerika... :sad:

[Cassiejane42]

Originally posted by Mr. Green Card
Hay... Ang lungkot talaga ng Buhay Amerika... :sad:

do you want to talked about it baka maka-tulong ako sa iyu at kahit papaano malalampasan mo rin ang lungkot sa pang- araw-araw.. Lalo na ngayung malapit na ang pasko, sa atin sa Pilipinas nagpapatugtog na nang pamasko. dito sa America talagang hihintay mo ang Christmas eve.. dahil baka batuhin ang bintana mo pag nagpa-tugtog ka ng maaga at sabihin sa court na you disturbing the Peace.. :D

[clawed_out]

Originally posted by Mr. Green Card
Hay... Ang lungkot talaga ng Buhay Amerika... :sad:

go out & have some fun. get busy, alisin mo ang pag iisip mo na malungkot ka dahil talagang malulungkot kalang.

you're old enough to know the difference & how to deviate from it. just do it.

[rusyanjill]

yes, go out and meet people!!!!

[Mr. Green Card]

Originally posted by clawed_out
go out & have some fun. get busy, alisin mo ang pag iisip mo na malungkot ka dahil talagang malulungkot kalang.

you're old enough to know the difference & how to deviate from it. just do it.

I know, I know. It's just that I miss someone special. Someone who's over there in Manila...

[junben_c]

kalimutan niyo na ang lungkot. yung mga ibang pinoy nga nagpoprotesta para makapag trabaho sa mga magugulong lugar gaya ng iraq, kayo pang nasa america na sandamakmak ang mga pinoy ay nalulungkot pa? tsk tsk tsk :(

[trixxie]

Originally posted by Mr. Green Card
Hay... Ang lungkot talaga ng Buhay Amerika... :sad:


pls don't be sad.

[fartmanfart]

mr,. green card. mag pex na lang ng mag pex para di masyadong nalulungkot. ituring mong blog mo ito para naman updated kami sa escapades mo jan...

[Melferg]

Originally posted by Mr. Green Card
Hay... Ang lungkot talaga ng Buhay Amerika... :sad:


Mr. GreenCard alam mo bang you're just a bridge away from me....nagpupunta ako dyan sa SF to bar hop o clubbing....

[clawed_out]

ayan, you've got yourself a buddy.

[Mr. Green Card]

Thanks for the support. It's just that I miss someone special in Manila kaya malungkot buhay dito.

How I wish she was here too...

[Cassiejane42]

Originally posted by Mr. Green Card
Thanks for the support. It's just that I miss someone special in Manila kaya malungkot buhay dito.

How I wish she was here too...

she was there with you.. always in your heart.. :)

[NewFoundGlory]

anyone from montana area? bka meron gimik naman tayo, hehehe. dito sobrang lungkot kasi mountains. hehe konti pinoy. lol. kung may mga filipino, puro matanda na. :(

[Mr. Green Card]

Originally posted by Cassiejane42
she was there with you.. always in your heart.. :)

And on my mind...

[fartmanfart]

yihaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa^^

[Cassiejane42]

Originally posted by Mr. Green Card
And on my mind...

and that too.. you will survive! believe me,.. you just dont know it soon who knows maybe she was in your arms.. :)

[Mr. Green Card]

Thanks...

[holy_smoke]

America means in tagalog, trabaho, trabaho, trabaho. Kaya mga PExr's, trabaho, trabaho meron pang 30 to 40 years na bubunuin.

[clawed_out]

not really.

depende sa iyo yan.

[Mr. Green Card]

Originally posted by holy_smoke
America means in tagalog, trabaho, trabaho, trabaho. Kaya mga PExr's, trabaho, trabaho meron pang 30 to 40 years na bubunuin.

I think you're right. Kayod, kayod, kayod ang Buhay Amerika.

[Mr. Green Card]

I wish I could vote in the upcoming elections. Sana manalo si Kerry para gumanda ang economy.

[fartmanfart]

kerry! kerry! keri nya yan

[NOKiE]

It'll be easier before you know it, Mr. Green Card, and then you'll be heading back to PiNAS for some well-deserved vacation. Just don't wait that long. I've been a Californian since Dec., 1987, and hadn't gone home since just last 2001 for 2 weeks and just last month for 3 weeks.

So you're a Macy's employee? Union Square?

[Mr. Green Card]

Yeah, I work for Macy's but I'd rather keep the location a secret...

[C.I.C.C.I]

Originally posted by Mr. Green Card
Yeah, I work for Macy's but I'd rather keep the location a secret...

Since you said youre based in SF.....i think its either Stockton and O'Farrell

[NOKiE]

There's also Stonestown Galleria right next to SFSU. You also live in the City? Must be cool to be minutes away from North Beach, Nob Hill, and the Square.

What you need, Mr. Green Card, is to get together with other Bay Area PExers and play hookie on a Wednesday or something. It may not be much to ease your homesickness, but it's a start. :)

[soulthird]

sa Serrramonte shopping area ka mag work Mr Green Card. Bawat lingon ko may Pinoy.

[soulthird]

re: Pasalubong, bumili na lang kayo sa Marshall's, Ross, TJMaxx, what have you. Then alisin ang tag :D :D :D

[NOKiE]

Originally posted by soulthird
re: Pasalubong, bumili na lang kayo sa Marshall's, Ross, TJMaxx, what have you. Then alisin ang tag :D :D :D

Lorna Tolentino shopped at Marshall's last year during a Filipino event at Yerba Buena Gardens. :)

[pokerbuff]

Hi,

Wow, naghahanap ako ng mga pinoy na katulad ko. Yung umalis ng pinas to look for a better life, pero hinaharap yung emotional toll.

Ito ang istorya ko: Pumunta ako dito as a masterals student. Ngayon, nagtatrabaho ako as a software engineer. Naghihintay akong i-sponsor ng employer ko. Pero, sa loob ko, ok lang yung hindi ako i-sponsor. At least, mapapadali choice ko kung mag-i-stay ako dito o babalik na lang sa Pilipinas. Less then one year palang ako sa employer ko, at gusto kong magbakasyon sa Pinas, pero hindi pwede.

Recently, binreak ako ng long time girlfriend ko of 9 years. May plano sana kaming magsama dito pag nakakuha na ako ng working visa, pero, nag-confess siya na wala na siyang nafi-feel para sa akin. So, wala naman akong magawa. Minsan, iniisip ko kung tama ba yung pumunta ako dito... Pero wala namang silbi yung ganun, kasi, andito na ko. Kelangan ko na lang magpursigi.

Natutuwa naman ako na madami ding palang pinoy na more or less katulad ko. Kala ko ako lang yung may ganitong problema. Dalawa lang kasi kaming pinoy dito sa Iowa na kilala ko. At 2 hours apart pa kami, so, most of the time mag-isa lang ako... Minsan out of touch na ako sa mga nangyayari.

So, hopefully ok tong community dito. I look forward to participating and contributing my points of view.

Btw, pangalan ko ay "Bong", pero had to change it to "Chris" dahil siyempre, hindi american yung Bong e. lol Meron din bang may ganitong experience?

Salamat.

[margust]

ano bang latest news dyan? anong meron dyan?paano ba ko makakapunta dyan

[«FickleMinded»]

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*pexadik*--NOKiE:Are you talking abt the "Pistang Filipino",dyan yata palagi ginagawa sa yerbe buena,naka-attend ako one time nung year 2001 pa,at ang guest pa nga eh si miss america (yung from hawaii)
Bong:what you mean kapareho mong experience?na nagpalit ng name?;) (j/k)ganyan lang talaga,kaya mag pex ka na lang, ako din nawili na lang sa kaka pex or kakajoin ng mga message board nung dumating dito,pero nasa 'pinas pa ako nung nagregister, mabut nga at bigla kong naalala na may Pex nga pala. :)

[NOKiE]

Probably. These past few Filipino events I've seen including the 2002 Fiesta Filipina at the Civic Center were pretty disappointing--not much Filipinana and predominantly, more like nothing but, hiphop.

[bebe_luvsu]

mas masaya sa Pinas..yun na yun

[pokerbuff]

oo fickeminded, yung pangalan nga tinutukoy ko. Hindi kasi masyadong familiar yung 'bong' e. :D Salamat sa imbitasyon mo.

:cheers:

bebe_luvsu, depende din. Masaya sa Pilipinas. Pero, pwede kang maging masaya kahit ano piliin mo. Bawat lugar ay may advantage at disadvantages. Kelangan mo lang ma-appreciate. =)

[toron]

Originally posted by trixxie
pls don't be sad.

kung pwedeng ganyan lang ka dali e

[pinoy2b]

pinas anytime

[toron]

^ "home" parin e no

[>>>sugahbabe<<<]

i really dont like it here!!!!i think i made the wrong choice!!!it takes time to adjust, well ganun naman talaga daw!!ang sakit sakit talaga!i had everything there!!!i just left the philippines to stay with my mom and also because im an american citizen.pero sobra ang sakit talaga kasi dun na ko lumaki saka thats the place i call home!!pero im glad na mat tfc kami **(filipino channel)saka maraming filipino sa school ko!!!

[NOKiE]

Probably worse having to migrate during your junior year in PiNAS. Imagine, a year and and a few more months 'till high school graduation only to be put on hold. Worse, American school system runs upto the TWELFTH GRADE, which meant I had to be pulled back to freshman year.

[Mr. Green Card]

Originally posted by >>>sugahbabe<<<
i really dont like it here!!!!i think i made the wrong choice!!!it takes time to adjust, well ganun naman talaga daw!!ang sakit sakit talaga!i had everything there!!!i just left the philippines to stay with my mom and also because im an american citizen.pero sobra ang sakit talaga kasi dun na ko lumaki saka thats the place i call home!!pero im glad na mat tfc kami **(filipino channel)saka maraming filipino sa school ko!!!

You'll get through it, someday. It just takes time.

I know what you're going through because I'm right there, right now.

[Lightspeed]

Just listen to your hearts.

Pakinggan kung ano ang sinisigaw ng puso n'yo - Pinas or Amerika. Then carefully weigh all the pros and cons.

[takawtamayo]

Originally posted by >>>sugahbabe<<<
i really dont like it here!!!!i think i made the wrong choice!!!it takes time to adjust, well ganun naman talaga daw!!ang sakit sakit talaga!i had everything there!!!i just left the philippines to stay with my mom and also because im an american citizen.pero sobra ang sakit talaga kasi dun na ko lumaki saka thats the place i call home!!pero im glad na mat tfc kami **(filipino channel)saka maraming filipino sa school ko!!!

how long ka na diyan?

[«FickleMinded»]

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Originally posted by pokerbuff
oo fickeminded, yung pangalan nga tinutukoy ko. Hindi kasi masyadong familiar yung 'bong' e. :D Salamat sa imbitasyon mo.

:cheers:

*pexadik*--ganon ba? :),alam ko marami din nagpapalit ng name, yung iba spelling ang pinapalitan, kunwari like ng name mo, Bong,gagawing Bhong, or Vhong,or Vong,yung iba naman lalagyan lang ng "h" yung name nila.Kapag naging citizen ka na,punta ka na lang sa name registry,at magpapalit ka ng iyong official name :D

[yekyek]

If i have a choice I'll still be in manila.although i can have anything i want here i still longing for the life that i have left behind i miss my family and friends .

[pokerbuff]

Originally posted by Mr. Green Card
I think you're right. Kayod, kayod, kayod ang Buhay Amerika.

Hindi naman lahat. Siguro sa umpisa lang ito, dahil hindi tayo sanay. Pero, mukang may magagandang things din dito. Masasanay din tayo. :cheers:

[pokerbuff]

Originally posted by >>>sugahbabe<<<
i really dont like it here!!!!i think i made the wrong choice!!!it takes time to adjust, well ganun naman talaga daw!!ang sakit sakit talaga!i had everything there!!!i just left the philippines to stay with my mom and also because im an american citizen.pero sobra ang sakit talaga kasi dun na ko lumaki saka thats the place i call home!!pero im glad na mat tfc kami **(filipino channel)saka maraming filipino sa school ko!!!


Sugahbabe,

Dami din akong iniwanan sa Pinas na kaibigan at pamilya. Hwag kang mag-alala, ndi ka nag-iisa. Kung ma-i-ease yung pag-adjust mo, post mo lang nararamdaman mo dito sa thread na ito. Dito at least parang "Pinas" pa rin ;)

[toron]

ako gusto kong makalabas naman ng bansa natin, pero gusto ko rin dito nga ako sa Pilipinas titira parin.
Btw, kayong mga sa Hawaii o may mga kaibigan o mga kapamilya sa Hawaii -wag ninyong kalimutan iboto si Gabbard para sa congressio at siya ang magiging connection nating mga pinoy sa US congress- para madalian rin kaming mga relatives ninyo dito sa Pinas namakapunta diyan para bisitahin kayo :) kung di muna kayo makauwi dito sa Pinas, we'll bring the Pinas to you nalang- bisita diba?
:)

[Lightspeed]

I'd also like to be given the opportunity to travel to far-off places.

But I'd like the Philippines to be my home-base because this is where I belong. :)

[Mr. Green Card]

Everybody vote for JOHN KERRY today!

[soulthird]

whoops Bush won!

[Mr. Green Card]

Originally posted by soulthird
whoops Bush won!

Yup, Bush won. Now I have to start praying.

[clawed_out]

why?

do you think the war would've stopped if kerry won?

do you think the stock market would've risen if kerry won?

[Mr. Green Card]

Can't say. But Bush's track record isn't the least bit positive. I believe America needed a change. The people who had the power to vote didn't want it.

There is nothing we can do about the election outcome. Let's all pray that the second term of Bush will turn around - for the better (better economy, less debt, less conflicts/wars). We've had enough.

[toron]

on the contrary, I'm really glad that Bush won because he is still the lesser of two evils. With him the war is abroad, whereas if Kerry won, the war would be internal- within the boarders of America.

[clawed_out]

we share same sentiments toron.

not that the war would go internal per se but kerry has to continue the battle bush has started& it means starting from the scratch again. he might do more damage than what W has already brought.

We can't get enought. If you've had enough then i guess, there's no where else to go but die.

not that i care who won, just let bush finish what he'd started.

[altair]

and bush finishing what he started may mean the draft BWAHAHAHAHA

patay kayo dyan

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[gotcha2]

^FYI ..This was a bill introduced by Democrat Charlie Rangel. The only two people who voted for it are Democrats.


No doubt that when Charlie Rangle (D) introduced the bill he was trying to make a point. But to then come out and say that Bush was in favor of a draft when no republican or Bush had anything to do with it?

Let me ask this, if the bill would have passed, who's fault would it have been?

Democrats because they introduced the bill?

or

Bush because the Republicans are in the majority?

It just shows how Democrats are twisting the issue to try and pin it on Bush.

the bill was voted down

[altair]

duh

if the the problem in Iraq will persist for more than 10 years, there will definitely be a draft

whether the bill would be sponsored by a democrat or a d*a*m*n*e*d republican is irrelevant

there are already signs of the overextension of american forces

extended tours, forces pulled off the Korean peninsula...


bwahahahaha!!!! that will be the beginning of the end of american hegemony


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[gotcha2]

^ duh & duh

take note *if*

in 10 yrs. ? duh again

USA will have a new prez on the 5th yr.

hay nakow, marami talagang nag mamarunong na mga noypi :rolleyes:

[altair]

tingnan na lang natin

american boys are gonna die!!!!!!


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[Mr. Green Card]

Okay, enough of the political talk. We have threads at Local and Foreign Issues for that.

All I can say is I hope Bush will do a better job on his second term. Let's end all political discussions HERE. Thank you.

[binibini4_u]

It is disheartening for fathers and mothers and young adults leaving home and try their luck abroad for a job.Due to to increase of sending workers overseas it created dysfunctional families, growing kids lacking parental supervision because mom and dad must leave the country to earn a living and support them. Either stay in RP and starve to death making a salary that can barely bring food to the table or work overseas so the kids can go to school and get a proper education. Its a delimma for parents everytime one of them decides to work overseas especially for married people. They're not sure when they come back their husband or wife is still at home waiting for them or already have an affair. A lot of OFWs suffer from loneliness working overseas especially if they have wife/husband and kids. When I was living in another country, I've witness a lot of our fellow filipinos crying whenever they receive letters from their kids especially mothers and sometimes the kids have bad news about their dad. And men received bad news too just like women but the WORST they don't receive any letters from their loveones. If foreign investors is allowed 100% ownership of their business I can see a LOT OF FILIPINOS doesn't have to travel overseas for a job as the job is at home. We have a lot of well educated filipinos, the problem there is NO JOB opportunities in RP, so they must try their luck overseas even if they don't want to be away from their family. If they work at home they generate revenue for the government in the form of taxes and it is always witheld from their paychecks. One person working in RP is putting 4 people at work. An office clerk working, has to buy her food, the tindera at the carinderia makes money from her, the tindera hires a cook or waitress, that person puts another pinoy at work, the tindera buys produce and meat for cooking, that is another person in business..the vegetable vendor buys her product from the farmer. Just imagine how many people can be put to work by one person working as a clerk. This protectionism practice in RP that has been going on since we declared independence in 1946 actually was CREATED to concentrate the WEALTH of the NATION to the elite ONLY. This is an uneven distribution of wealth because a common filipino cannot benefit from that. In fact the rich get richer at their own expense. There's a big gap between the rich and poor in RP. Here in the US if Donald Trump and Bill Gates can eat fillet mignon an ordinary American can eat it too because it is within the person's reach. A Mcdonald sales clerk can eat fillet mignon if she wanted to, that is only $20 the most and if you cook it yourself that is much cheaper you can feed 3 people with fillet mignon. When there's a LOT of work and majority of the people are working, the price of basic commodities will also go down because farmers would be planting like there's no tomorrow, the market would become highly competitive.

Filipinos are DECENT, I'm very very PROUD of my race and my people. If we have a lot of jobs back home, people wouldn't commit a crime like kidnapping and etc, because THERE IS WORK. They wouldn't even join the NPA-CPP because they have better things to do with their life and that is making an HONEST LIVING. If the Arroyo administration is really serious with her goal to build a strong republic this is one avenue in our government that MUST be change. A strong republic relies on the health of its people not rhetorics or hiring more cops and judges. I'm totally dissapointed with the sitting President; she wants to build a strong republic but she is NOT making changes in our laws that could have GREATER IMPACT in our economy and put a LOT of people to work.

WE filipinos are very attach to our home, we have a close knit family ties which is an envy of other nations. But we are losing that. I hope people in the House of Congress would change that law as right now the laws we have is very unfriendly to foreign investors but it feeds corrupt individuals; a common filipino is lucky if he receive a crumb from that.
**leslie**

[clawed_out]

so what if we get drafted?

millitary school? only there's a fat chance of dying, so what? we're all going to die anyway. i'd rather die with a cause be it for the country i'm living or natural death.

american boys may die but the whole korea might vanish. :)

[altair]

uh

37,000 american boys are in the forward area south of the DMZ

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[toron]

^^ pabayaan mo na.. diba, as they say, "He who is blind cannot see." :rolleyes:
Who can trust a congregation of braying asses?

[rabbaddal]

Originally posted by binibini4_u
If foreign investors is allowed 100% ownership of their business I can see a LOT OF FILIPINOS doesn't have to travel overseas for a job as the job is at home. We have a lot of well educated filipinos, the problem there is NO JOB opportunities in RP, so they must try their luck overseas even if they don't want to be away from their family. If they work at home they generate revenue for the government in the form of taxes and it is always witheld from their paychecks. One person working in RP is putting 4 people at work. An office clerk working, has to buy her food, the tindera at the carinderia makes money from her, the tindera hires a cook or waitress, that person puts another pinoy at work, the tindera buys produce and meat for cooking, that is another person in business..the vegetable vendor buys her product from the farmer. Just imagine how many people can be put to work by one person working as a clerk. This protectionism practice in RP that has been going on since we declared independence in 1946 actually was CREATED to concentrate the WEALTH of the NATION to the elite ONLY. This is an uneven distribution of wealth because a common filipino cannot benefit from that. In fact the rich get richer at their own expense.

This is true. Imagine how much more dynamic (and alive) companies like Islacom and Manila Hotel would have been had foreign investors been allowed to invest in these industries. What's more disturbing than constitutional provisions is the seemingly arbitrary, illogical and biased interpretation of the law. It makes the Philippines more unpredicatble and consequently more unattractive to foreign investors. It's not so much the gov't not creating enough opportunities, but rather the gov't shooting the country in the foot and throwing away opportunities that come Filipinos' way.

Take this recent DOJ ruling that threatens the main driver of job growth in our country - ICT. It's bad enough that most industries find the Philippines unattractive for investment, but now even the few that we manage to attract will now be turned off.

Here's the PEX thread over at the "Working Filipino" forums:

DOJ Opinion No. 29 Threatens Investments, Jobs (http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=189447)

[C.I.C.C.I]

Off Topic:

I hope we do not forget where we come from.

I work in a bank and in retail and met a number of Filipinos who do not like to speak the Pilipino language in front of other Filipinos.....

Truly disgusting

[em]

hahaha.. i hear you C.I.C.C.I!! may mga ganun talaga.. as in.. porket ang tagal tagal na dito.. they think na they are better than other Filipinos.. talupan mo man sila, core to core.. they still are Filipinos.. what's worse eh yung mga ilang buwan pa lang dito.. kung mag filing.. hayyy.. our forefathers must be rolling in their graves right now..

[C.I.C.C.I]

Originally posted by em
hahaha.. i hear you C.I.C.C.I!! may mga ganun talaga.. as in.. porket ang tagal tagal na dito.. they think na they are better than other Filipinos.. talupan mo man sila, core to core.. they still are Filipinos.. what's worse eh yung mga ilang buwan pa lang dito.. kung mag filing.. hayyy.. our forefathers must be rolling in their graves right now..

I think it's fine if you were really raised here or better still born here but if you were raised in the pHilippine way of life then that is a truly different story altogether....



But ,haven't you noticed that these Filipinos who do not like to speak Pilipino in front of other Filipinos are those who barely finished school in the Philippines.....or barely have a degree......and a number just worked in blue collar jobs.....?

PEACE!!!

[Dunedain]

Originally posted by C.I.C.C.I
Off Topic:

I hope we do not forget where we come from.

I work in a bank and in retail and met a number of Filipinos who do not like to speak the Pilipino language in front of other Filipinos.....

Truly disgusting

Want to know much worse? A couple of years ago, me and my cousin went out buying seafood. At that time, I was wearing a Hawaiian shirt. An Asian guy approached me and asked if I was from Hawaii. My answer was: "No. I'm Filipino. You look like one. Are you Filipino as well?" His reply: "No. I'm Ilocano." Hasnep! Dehins lang ako sigurado kung matatawa ako or gugulphin ko sa saksakan ng *****. Kailan kaya nagkaroon ng bansa ang Ilocos?

[pokerbuff]

Dunedain,

Howard Roark? So, I presume you read Ayn Rand's Fountainhead? Gusto ko sanang basahin e, kaso lang, kapal na libro.

[Dunedain]

Originally posted by pokerbuff
Dunedain,

Howard Roark? So, I presume you read Ayn Rand's Fountainhead? Gusto ko sanang basahin e, kaso lang, kapal na libro.

Yep. Read Fountainhead three times. Other books I've read more than once (to name a few): LOTR, Red October, Rainbow Six, Red Storm Rising, Fields of Fire, and Dune series.

[seoulman]

Originally posted by grumpybear
Ano'ng pabo?

Uhmmmm... babo is a Korean word meaning: dumb, stupid, idiot... you get the picture. :D

[iheart17]

hi!!! can you send me your email addresses?! i badly need it for a school project! thanks a lot!!!! email ad is sevhunteen@yahoo.com

i'll send out a survey..it's about online shopping..quick lang!!! please..thanks!!!

[bauer]

Let me begin with my story.

It's been almost 5 months since I arrived here in America. When I first got here, it was a sigh of relief for me. Finally, "the land of milk and honey". Finally, I'm going to where thousands of Filipinos dream of setting foot on. Legally, at that. I was awestruck and looked forward to living in America.

I left behind a lot just for a chance to live here. I left behind my friends, my family, and a girl I loved so dearly. I left behind a social stature that I had amassed by studying in one of the top universities in the Philippines. I was set to inherit a family business that would keep my life comfortable enough. But then, I chose to leave, upon the insistence of my father. He felt there are greater opportunities for me in America than in the Philippines. He felt the country was going nowhere at the way it's run right now.

And so I moved to America. I knew life in America was a whole different change but I was prepared for it. Or so, I thought.

As the months have progressed, I find myself longing and longing for what I have been accustomed to back in Manila. I miss so many stuff that have been a permanent fixture in my life, such as my friends. I miss the night outs, the gimiks, the places my friends and I go to, etc.

And most of all, I miss the girl I loved the most, my Mulan (she looks like Mulan, hehe).

As I now realize, life in America is materially convenient but emotionally difficult. I hardly have friends here. I couldn't get a job (I'm living off my savings right now and it's getting smaller and smaller). I miss a special someone over there in Manila.

Every night, I lie awake on my bed, thinking what could have been if I just stayed. Every night, I lie awake on my bed thinking about her, how she is, what she's doing, and if there's someone else, someone new in her life because I'm no longer physically there for her. Every night, scenes from "Sana Maulit Muli" (out of pathetic depression, I actually bought a VCD of this here and I watch it every so often) flash through my head as I recall how difficult life actually is in America. I see the struggles and I take it to heart each time I see the parallelisms between the scenes and the experiences I have in my life.

But I made a choice. I cannot turn back on this. I have no choice but to live it out now that I'm here. Like what was said in the movie: maraming nagpapakamatay para makapunta dito tapos aalis ako? It's irrational to leave now that I'm here. I guess I just have to be stronger and realize that the sacrifices will eventually pay off.

Totoo nga, malungkot ang buhay Amerika. Kaya lang, kailangang panindigan ko na ito, ngayong nandito na ako.

haha! dude! parehong pareho tayo man! right on the dot! exact pare! la lang ako vcd nun movie na yun.. i see your from frisco... i have plans of moving there in a couple of months. but yeah totoo lahat sinabi nito si Mr. Greencard. Sometimes it can really make you think. Anu kaya balik nalang ako dun? Specially if di mo naman kelangan gawin to. Pero andito kana eh. O kaya lam mo yun you have a life back home....came from a good school sa may katipunan.... definitely can get a good job sa Ayala kung ayaw mo umasa sa pamilya mo... and then suddenly.. boom! Where am I? what am I doing here eh? But then on the flipside, a mans gotta do what a mans gotta do. Maganda na rin *****... Ibang buhay naman. Actually, everyone in this thread gave good insights on coming to America. Karamihan totoo! But hey what are you gonna do? sit back, relax suck in the experience...! Andito na tayo boys and girls! So far marami nako natutunan dito... but I surely miss my home. Manila is always home...

So sa lahat ng pareho ng experience namin o sa mga may plano na pumunta dito.. hey try it out! Surely, your in for a ride!!!! Goodluck to us!!!!

[soulthird]

I'm actually contenplating on moving there. pero it seems mahirap nga... to the point that people who actually did it are recommending against it. oh well.

[tagaAplaya]

ako appreciate all na meron ako dito sa estados unidos.. it seems to me na maraming tao na wa! wah ! biatch biatch ... because
a) they're so used to having 5 to 10 maid do all the stuff for them (wash their butt, cook, wash their underwear that when they get here clueless.
b) i hear this a lot " taga paglinis lang naman kayo ng banyo eww ! that's kadiri .. what's wrong with you people ? matutu kayong maglinis
c) masyadong mayaman sa pinas they can't stand getting up early and show up for work ? stay in pinas then we don't need you here !
d) is it really that easy sa pinas ?
*******
to make it dito sa US ... opinion ko .. don't go sa CA .. why ? MAhal doon ang bahay/kotse/insurance/ try north dakota di biro lang.. but your 100k in say charleston,wv can go a long way compare sa la land .. try a different tribe naman,state hang out with other american. madaming asians (chinese,vietnamese,koreans,indians) are doing really good kapag may own business sila.. hindi mahirap dito nasasayo iyon eh
mabuhay ka pilipinas..

[C.I.C.C.I]

bump...........

[philpay]

What happened to Mr. Greencard is true for many immigrants. Hindi lang naman mga pinoy ang nakaka-experience niyan. It's called "culture shock." And anyone who moves to a new place goes thru the shock from 6 months to 1 year on the average. If it's an entirely new culture (like from Pinas to Tate), it could last for one year. Kung di ka pa emotionally and psychologically prepared to face the hardship, the shock could last up to 2 years.

The way to lessen the shock is to look at the good points in the new culture you are living in. Enjoy it and love it. Thank God for the opportunity, and keep in touch with other Pinoys who will encourage you. Stay away from the kapwa-depressed. And make friends with your neighbors. Pretty soon you'll be up and about.

As for girlfriends you've left home, eh ganyan talaga yan. If you can't live without her, go home or take her home. :naughty:

I moved to the US when I was a teen and went thru the shock for 6 months. Then I moved back to Pinas and went thru the same cultural shock for 2 years! It lasted longer pagbalik kasi I put down our Pinoy culture comparing it with American culture. I learned from that. Masama pala yun.

[Raf378]

I think the majority of the culture shock that pinoys have when they get to the States boils down to two things: Independence & Self-Reliance.

These are two values that kids in America (whether you're white, black, asian, latino, etc) are raised with.

Let me give examples:

-Housework: When I grew up in the States it was just me, mom, & dad. No servants/helpers. My mom did the laundry, but she gave me all my clothes to fold. I was responsible for cleaning my room. I had to clean the dishes every 3rd day (mom, dad, me, repeat). Take out the trash. Wash the car. Etc. Now, I live in Manila having finished med school and am in an internship. When I visit my relatives in Las Pinas, they have a maid & driver. My cousins don't do ANY housework and they look at me weird when I go clean up after myself after having a snack.

-Life after college: In the States, generally and if financially capable; fresh graduates tend to live on their own and balze their own trail. Here, at least among my family, after college my cousins stay and live at home until they're married.

So, my advice for people migrating to America. Learn to do things on your own. Learn to cook. When you get to the US open up a credit card account but pay it in full at the end of the month. That way you don't end up paying huge amounts of interest. Live within your means. I definitely can't live the lifestyle I do here in the Philippines back home in NY. I'd go broke in a month.

[philpay]

Add to that:

Difficulty in communication -- not just in english but also other patterns of communication -- verbal and non-verbal, forms of respect (in speech and action), expressions of anger, hatred, emotion, distress, displeasure, pleasure, etc. It's not easy learning new forms and patterns of communication. For example, Americans are generally outspoken and easily express displeasure without regard for the feelings of others. That is opposite Filipino culture.

Discrimination -- although this is illegal, yet it nonetheless exists in many areas of American society. Caucasian vs Afro-American, Afro-American vs Latino, Latino vs. Asian-American, etc. This is something many Filipinos are not and cannot prepare themselves for before immigrating. We have a very peaceful co-existence among our different language groups. Generally, Filipinos are a very peace-loving people. It is hard for us to make sense of the animosity between racial groups living in the same community. Take that to the work place and it gets worse for the poor immigrant.

[Raf378]

Discrimination ... Generally, Filipinos are a very peace-loving people. It is hard for us to make sense of the animosity between racial groups living in the same community.

This is off topic. But in my experience, quite a few Pinoys I've encountered seem to have some sort of instilled hostility towards blacks that I just don't understand. Case in point, I remember being in a mall here in Manila when I walked into a shop that had a black tourist couple looking at clothes. I could hear the sales ladies saying things like "ang baho" and "ungoy". I gave a dissaproving look at them and was tempted to tell the couple that the salespeople were badmouthing them.

[obiwan]

I think it's fine if you were really raised here or better still born here but if you were raised in the pHilippine way of life then that is a truly different story altogether....



But ,haven't you noticed that these Filipinos who do not like to speak Pilipino in front of other Filipinos are those who barely finished school in the Philippines.....or barely have a degree......and a number just worked in blue collar jobs.....?

PEACE!!!

Yes that really annoys me.... what i also find weird are the filipinos who buy a range rover or a friggin $50,000 mercedes benz but live in a rented 1 bedroom studio!!!

[obiwan]

This is off topic. But in my experience, quite a few Pinoys I've encountered seem to have some sort of instilled hostility towards blacks that I just don't understand. Case in point, I remember being in a mall here in Manila when I walked into a shop that had a black tourist couple looking at clothes. I could hear the sales ladies saying things like "ang baho" and "ungoy". I gave a dissaproving look at them and was tempted to tell the couple that the salespeople were badmouthing them.

Yes that is wrong,, and to think we all get mad when the caucasians make racial comments about filipinos still living in trees!! its good to show the uneducated that what they doing is wrong...

[Raf378]

Actually I remember a thread about foreigners who understand tagalog. The poster's story was that they were in NJ getting their gas tank filled and the gas guy was black. The poster's aunt was visiting from the Pinas. She walked by the guy and said "Ang baho nya!". The guy then made an obvious display of smelling himself and said, "Bakit?! Amoy ba ako ng bayabas o durian?" Turns out the guys used to be stationed at Clark. Na hiya tuloy yung tita.

[obiwan]

Actually I remember a thread about foreigners who understand tagalog. The poster's story was that they were in NJ getting their gas tank filled and the gas guy was black. The poster's aunt was visiting from the Pinas. She walked by the guy and said "Ang baho nya!". The guy then made an obvious display of smelling himself and said, "Bakit?! Amoy ba ako ng bayabas o durian?" Turns out the guys used to be stationed at Clark. Na hiya tuloy yung tita.

more to that, i hear that some understand the word "itim" even if they dont know tagalog.... they know they are the ones being referred to by the filipinos

[XCLUSIVEperson]

super saya sa america............pag tourist ka... pero ilang months nalang matatapos na yung pention ko at dyan nako magwowork after i graduated..

[burnik2001]

Lets not fool ourselves.

Pinoys are racist too- against dark skinned people (except PBA imports, NBA players and celebrities) and chinese. You see it on TV, I see it in everyday life.

Try going to a hotel and compare the service they give to an ordinary pinoy and to a caucasian tourist. Discrimnation against pinoys in ones own country too. How sad.

[obiwan]

Lets not fool ourselves.

Pinoys are racist too- against dark skinned people (except PBA imports, NBA players and celebrities) and chinese. You see it on TV, I see it in everyday life.

Try going to a hotel and compare the service they give to an ordinary pinoy and to a caucasian tourist. Discrimnation against pinoys in ones own country too. How sad.

thats true. i experienced that myself in the oakwood hotel in glorietta, i was so pissed i complained to the manager who admitted that that happens a lot... :no:

[TheEqualizer]

Everyone is a racist to a certain extent. Even blacks discriminate against asians and white. It's plain human nature. "Aesthetic reality" tawag ata dun. Even among pinoys, we discriminate the Bisayas, Ilocanos, the iskwater. Kung siguro lahat ng pinoy Tagalog at class A, we would discriminate against religion or sex. Kung lahat Catholic at lalaki, against ugly, etc. As humans, we would always find something to discriminate against.

Payo ko sa mga gustong pumunta ng US, migrate to low-cost states such as Arizona, Florida, NC or PA if you have the option to do so. Taxes are low and houses are affordable. Stay away from CA, NY, NJ. They're very expensive states to live in.

Brace yourselves, cause you're gonna be your own tsimoy, yaya, labandera, hardinero, karpintero, plumber, etc. Bahay-upisina is going to be your life. If you're single, you could go to bars to meet other singles. But males don't have as many choices as females do. American men like asians, but the women are not into Asians, sorry. Tayong mga lalaki ay mas marami pa ring choices sa Pinas. Also be ready for Pinoy boring parties, you'll have plenty of them.

If you're into night-outs in Manila, you won't find the same satisfaction here. Iba ang crowds sa bars sa Amerika. You may feel like you're a stranger.

Dito dalawa lang classes, walang A,B,C,D. Super-rich and the rest of America. You don't feel rich no matter how hard you work or how much you accumulate. Kahit jaguar pa kotse mo you don't really feel pinaghirapan mo; cause most people could buy a jaguar anyway if they wanted to. Sa Pinas, bumili ka lang ng civic, e feeling rich ka na. In short, money is easy but it's hard to enjoy it here. That's why pinoys go back home as balikbayans to enjoy them there.

And this is a hard, cold fact: You'll never be white in America, period.

[burnik2001]

Everyone is a racist to a certain extent. Even blacks discriminate against asians and white. It's plain human nature. "Aesthetic reality" tawag ata dun. Even among pinoys, we discriminate the Bisayas, Ilocanos, the iskwater. Kung siguro lahat ng pinoy Tagalog at class A, we would discriminate against religion or sex. Kung lahat Catholic at lalaki, against ugly, etc. As humans, we would always find something to discriminate against.

Payo ko sa mga gustong pumunta ng US, migrate to low-cost states such as Arizona, Florida, NC or PA if you have the option to do so. Taxes are low and houses are affordable. Stay away from CA, NY, NJ. They're very expensive states to live in.

Brace yourselves, cause you're gonna be your own tsimoy, yaya, labandera, hardinero, karpintero, plumber, etc. Bahay-upisina is going to be your life. If you're single, you could go to bars to meet other singles. But males don't have as many choices as females do. American men like asians, but the women are not into Asians, sorry. Tayong mga lalaki ay mas marami pa ring choices sa Pinas. Also be ready for Pinoy boring parties, you'll have plenty of them.

If you're into night-outs in Manila, you won't find the same satisfaction here. Iba ang crowds sa bars sa Amerika. You may feel like you're a stranger.

Dito dalawa lang classes, walang A,B,C,D. Super-rich and the rest of America. You don't feel rich no matter how hard you work or how much you accumulate. Kahit jaguar pa kotse mo you don't really feel pinaghirapan mo; cause most people could buy a jaguar anyway if they wanted to. Sa Pinas, bumili ka lang ng civic, e feeling rich ka na. In short, money is easy but it's hard to enjoy it here. That's why pinoys go back home as balikbayans to enjoy them there.

And this is a hard, cold fact: You'll never be white in America, period.



Korek ka dyan. Kahit anong gara ng bihis mo (Kaysa Prada, Burberry, D&G, or whatever) or kotse mo, kahit doktor ka, nurse, abogado or whatever professional, you will still be considered inferior by most (though not all) "whities" (whether you are in US, Canadoa or Europe) , even by those with less brains and money. Once you come to terms with this fact, then life will be a little bit easier.

[obiwan]

why do some filipinos like to spend beyond their means? like buy a $50k mercedes benz when they only earn $40k per year?

[Raf378]

like buy a $50k mercedes benz when they only earn $40k per year?

Extended financing plan.

[tagaAplaya]

And this is a hard, cold fact: You'll never be white in America, period.
meaning that you'll never be somebody (tama ba ?). walang mararating ika nga dahil pinoy ka,brown skin and all ?
if that's what it means then Asian Indians either forgot or pakin deaf.
their skin ay mas dark sa atin they have as heavy accent compare sa pinoy.. so why then Indians are fortune 500 ceo .. own hotels,restaurant and big businesses.. technologies,finance,medicine,business.. they're all over the place..
question is are they really that better than pinoys(intellectually) ?
or there just too many whinny @ss pinoy using the race card all the time - reasons why they're still where they are ..

Is there a correlation why Pinoy here ay ganyan ? nadala ang mentality na :cycle na pep talk sa ating mga anak..
mahirap ka lang ok na to .. hindi ka grumadweyt sa up,ust,ateneo,lasalle kaya wala kang kwenta .. kaya naman ang 8 out of ten biggest companies sa pilipins ay owned by tsinoy... kase wala yata sa vocabulary..

good morning... mga katanigan ko lang ..

[burnik2001]

question is are they really that better than pinoys(intellectually) ?
or there just too many whinny @ss pinoy using the race card all the time - reasons why they're still where they are ..

Is there a correlation why Pinoy here ay ganyan ? nadala ang mentality na :cycle na pep talk sa ating mga anak..
mahirap ka lang ok na to .. hindi ka grumadweyt sa up,ust,ateneo,lasalle kaya wala kang kwenta .. kaya naman ang 8 out of ten biggest companies sa pilipins ay owned by tsinoy... kase wala yata sa vocabulary..

good morning... mga katanigan ko lang ..

Mali ka dyan. Hindi naman financial success ang pinaguusapan dito. Sabi nga eh "MONEY IS EASY". Ang pinagsusulatan dito ay racisn in the context of "social life" and "social acceptance".

[obiwan]

1. the chinese, EVERYWHERE in Asia are the top business leaders, Malaysia, thailand, indonesia, singapore etc. not just in the philippines....

2. the Indians as a race and culture are very competitive by nature...and business minded as well just like the chinese.... i dont think they are smarter than us....its just that with sheer population only.... assumining in a given population that 5% of the pool will be genuises and succesful businessman....that is at least 100 million people between china and india.....and most of them want to live outside their home country ...you get 5% from the philippine population...that is only 4 million.... I am sure that if there were also 1 billion filipinos, we would see more billionaires....

.....but then again, not everyone thinks that wealth and power are the important things in life........

[tagaAplaya]

Mali ka dyan. Hindi naman financial success ang pinaguusapan dito. Sabi nga eh "MONEY IS EASY". Ang pinagsusulatan dito ay racisn in the context of "social life" and "social acceptance".

- so dito ka lumaki you went to preK and kinder hindi ka na accepted ng mga kano dahil iba ang kulay mo ?
- noong college ka dito did you hang out w/ pinoy lang ? dahil feel mo na ayaw nila sayo dahil pinoy ka ? that aint right ..
- ngayong college graduate ka na and maraming pera (loaded easy money) donald trump still won't hook up w/ you or bill gates ?
- kana (puti) ..i doubt na maraming pinoy na gustong date ang (itim)na gusto mong eh ask out aayaw sa'yo kaya ang akala racism.. not accepted ang pinoy socially ? baka naman maraming 3x movie silang napanood and asians have the reputasyon na pencil d1ck.
- i know a lot of kids who grew up here na ang barkada ay lahok lahok(puti,itim,indian,korean) you name it ... and they date or end up marrying yoong mga expose sila.. kumbaga kinalakhan na nila
- racism happens but using it always as an excuse ay mahirap din..

[burnik2001]

Mali ka dyan. Hindi naman financial success ang pinaguusapan dito. Sabi nga eh "MONEY IS EASY". Ang pinagsusulatan dito ay racisn in the context of "social life" and "social acceptance".

- so dito ka lumaki you went to preK and kinder hindi ka na accepted ng mga kano dahil iba ang kulay mo ?
- noong college ka dito did you hang out w/ pinoy lang ? dahil feel mo na ayaw nila sayo dahil pinoy ka ? that aint right ..
- ngayong college graduate ka na and maraming pera (loaded easy money) donald trump still won't hook up w/ you or bill gates ?
- kana (puti) ..i doubt na maraming pinoy na gustong date ang (itim)na gusto mong eh ask out aayaw sa'yo kaya ang akala racism.. not accepted ang pinoy socially ? baka naman maraming 3x movie silang napanood and asians have the reputasyon na pencil d1ck.
- i know a lot of kids who grew up here na ang barkada ay lahok lahok(puti,itim,indian,korean) you name it ... and they date or end up marrying yoong mga expose sila.. kumbaga kinalakhan na nila
- racism happens but using it always as an excuse ay mahirap din..


Mali ka naman tol. Wala namang gumamit ng racism na "excuse". Fact of life lang yan sa developed nations (USA, Canada, Europe or Japan) na mababa ang tingin ng marami (hindi lahat) sa Pinoy. Pwede mong ideny all you want but that is the fact and it is NOT an excuse for anything. It is a FACT that explains why majority (not all) of native pinoys I know (not FIL AM) go home all the time (2-3X/year), because they want to feel "Sikat" and "make yabang" their HARD EARNED money that is otherwise NOT appreciated by Joe Schmo in his adopted country.

Also, do not compare an american born and bred pinoy with a transplanted pinoy. The american borns have no previous pilipino lifestyle and social clique to reminisce about.

[TheEqualizer]

And this is a hard, cold fact: You'll never be white in America, period.

Let me clarify this. This is not about skin, this is about us being foreigners. Americans may not discriminate you nang harapan, but they will discriminate you in other ways simply because you're different. Like I said, it's plain human nature/instinct. You won't get some of their jokes, you'd find yourself nakikitawa lang sa kanila. You'd feel a stranger in their malls, parties, and other gatherings. Most pinoys only congregate amongst themselves at pag me naligaw na American, nakakaawa kasi tagalog ang usapan.

Kaya nga bahay-upisina lang pinoy rito kasi nga wala masyadong maka-hang-out.

Kahit yumaman ka pa, magaling mag-ingles, you'd always be pinoy at heart. Your country is called the Philippines. Hahanap-hanapin mo pa rin kapwa mo pinoy, maybe not in America dahil iba na ugali nila, pero dun sa bayan mong sinilangan.

I may sound nationalistic, but I'm just stating the fact. Anyone who tries to shun their identities is fooling himself.

[burnik2001]

http://news.inq7.net/regions/index.php?index=1&story_id=37932

This is even worse. Discriminated against by FOREIGNERS in MY OWN COUNTRY.

[j42002]

originally posted by adri(e)lle kapuso thread

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[chinita_grl]

Is it really hard to find a white collar job there kahit I.T. background mo?

[chinita_grl]

Is it really hard to find a white collar job there kahit I.T. background mo?

[C_ZONE]

it is @ chinita_grl...

[j42002]

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[F-A Soldier]

mahirap na masarap...just like anywhere.

[tagaAplaya]

Mali ka naman tol. Wala namang gumamit ng racism na "excuse". Fact of life lang yan sa developed nations (USA, Canada, Europe or Japan) na mababa ang tingin ng marami (hindi lahat) sa Pinoy. Pwede mong ideny all you want but that is the fact and it is NOT an excuse for anything. It is a FACT that explains why majority (not all) of native pinoys I know (not FIL AM) go home all the time (2-3X/year), because they want to feel "Sikat" and "make yabang" their HARD EARNED money that is otherwise NOT appreciated by Joe Schmo in his adopted country.

Also, do not compare an american born and bred pinoy with a transplanted pinoy. The american borns have no previous pilipino lifestyle and social clique to reminisce about.

* ibang bandwidth yata kaya hindi mag ugma ..

what this he/she says :Ventada

Posts: 68 Black American comes in a restaurant with an attitude. The waiter asks him to calm down and behave properly. The Black American guests retorts, "Your telling me off because I'm black isnt it?!"

Why do I feel that most Filipinos (including highly educated posters here at PEx) think with a slave mentality. Filipinos feel as if they are always oppressed or discriminated. The thing is if we could only develop the paradigm shift that we are us Filipinos are equal with non-Filipinos, then most of us would be more open-minded.

"Appeal to PITY is a fallacy". I remember hearing this in one of my liberal arts class during college. You don't beg for respect, you earn it. Unfortunately, Filipinos would rather be pitied on than be respected.

[eccentriQ]

mas masaya sa Pinas..yun na yun

hay.. totoo, totoo.. :|

[itt]

mahirap po ba kumuha ng travaho pag BA course? [marketing]? eh kung magtayo ng retail store?paang craft shop? sorry po kung OT
:bluefish:

[j42002]

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[C.I.C.C.I]

off topic:

I work in retail and I noticed that a number of Filipinos love to ask EXTRA paper bags and plastic bags....and if they are not given an extra bag they raise hell even if it has been explained to them that it is company policy to limit the number of bags given......


In the store I work, sales associates , supervisors and managers cringe their noses when this weird thing happens....



Why Are a number of filipinos so needy of paper bags and plastic bags?

[tagaAplaya]

off topic:

I work in retail and I noticed that a number of Filipinos love to ask EXTRA paper bags and plastic bags....and if they are not given an extra bag they raise hell even if it has been explained to them that it is company policy to limit the number of bags given......

In the store I work, sales associates , supervisors and managers cringe their noses when this weird thing happens....

Why Are a number of filipinos so needy of paper bags and plastic bags?

* nordstrom ba ? - baka pag nagpapadala eh ibinabalot doon - oy yaman ah ;)
* plastic bags ? is it big/small enough to fit the trash can sa banyo.. like plastic bag from the grocery stores ? .. recycle ika nga .. kaysa sa bibili pa ng hefty bags ? maybe...

[burnik2001]

:lol:

Hindi lang pinoy. I remember sa Harrods na may Japon na sumisigaw dahil di sya binibigyan ng 6 bags for his 6 pens that he bought.

When we went to Japan we figured out why the guy acted that way. When we bought six pens sa Toky disney, they automatically gave us six bags. Ganyan yata culture nila, mahilig sa pasalubong.

[C.I.C.C.I]

:lol:

Hindi lang pinoy. I remember sa Harrods na may Japon na sumisigaw dahil di sya binibigyan ng 6 bags for his 6 pens that he bought.

When we went to Japan we figured out why the guy acted that way. When we bought six pens sa Toky disney, they automatically gave us six bags. Ganyan yata culture nila, mahilig sa pasalubong.

ok i stand corrected.....most Asians :D especially filipinos.......

honestly, filipinos, chinese and black people have a bad reputation in most retail stores.....nakakahiya

[toskeg]

up up :angel:

[mikedv]

Hello guys, I have a question and I know it's going to raise some eyebrows and it will definitely give me some ridicule, but please I hope you'll give me a chance lang with my question....

My Visa expired 2 years ago, hindi ko na renew kaagad, nung nag apply ako ay na deny na ako, ayoko nang mag dwell sa details pero talagang ganun eh, super strict na ang US Embassy.

My question is this, I know money talks, and I have money, I have here 15,000 USD with me, and by hook or by crook gusto ko na talagang pumunta and eventually stay sa states. Sabi nila meron daw dyan arranged marriages or pwedeng mag bayad nalang ng lawyer, but the thing is, paano ko naman magagawa yun kung currently wala naman akong US Visa.

Do you know of anything that I can do?

Please don't chastise me, pero I know some of you will, I don't blame you. But dun sa may mga alam dyan na paraan please PM nyo nalang ako.

Thanks.

[boge]

Extended financing plan.

that's so true..

i mean some filipinos here are just buying expensive and luxurious stuffs to show-off to others na may kaya sila and sometimes in the end ang laki laki ng binabayad na utang or they are working 16hours straight just pay off their debts.

hindi din ok yun ha.

[boge]

Is it really hard to find a white collar job there kahit I.T. background mo?

hindi. if you'll look at the job openings here there are a lot na I.T jobs. you just have to be ready that you can compete with other applicants pag nakakuha ka ng interview some are more or less experienced or what.. that's what you should expect pag white collar job.. very competitive talaga.. pero in the end sobrang ok yung sweldo mo.

you just have to show the H.R na kaya mo yung trabaho yun.. and why they should hire you kaysa dun sa iba. Madalas naman wala silang discrimination dito paghiring ng mga employees eh. nabibilib nga sila sa mga pinoys na marunong mag-english na fluent kahit may accent.

you just have to be patient. hindi lahat madali. dito kasi may chance ka na makuha mo yung dream job mo..

[boge]

ang mahirap minsan dito sa states..

yung own kababayan mo pa yung naninira syo dahil sa inggit at payabangan.

[frax2002]

from www.igma.tv forumTHE LOPEZES' SCANDALS.

part one:the meralco overcharge.(this is whre your meralco bills go!)

year 1994:unang nagpalabas ang meralco ng bagong scam...este,scheme pala,scheme sa pagbabayad ng kuryente....

eto ay ang purchased power adjustment o mas kilala sa tawag na PPA.

sa bagong patakaran,kontrolado na ng meralco ang pagtataas at pagbaba ng singil sa kuryente sa kadahilanang....

1.hindi mapigil ang pagsadsad ng piso,kaya kailangan na kontrolin ang pagtaas ng singil.

2.kakaunti pa lang ang mga IPP's(independent power producers) na mag susupply ng kuryente ...

pinatupad ng meralco sa pangunguna ni manuel lopez(ceo,president ng meralco.)ang bagong patakaran noong kasagsagan ng mga brownouts sa kamaynilaan.

ilang taon rin ang nakalipas...1995...1996...1997...1998...1999...2000...2001...2002...hanggang sa malaman ng taumbayan ang kalokohan ng mga lopez....nag overcharge pala ang meralco!!!!

ayon sa imbestigasyon ng gobyerno,nagovercharge ang meralco ng mahigit...believe it or not...P 32 Billion.

ayon sa imbestigasyon,noong 1994 pa nagaganap ang anomalyang ito.....

at nakalipas ang 9 na taon ay hindi nalaman ng tao ang kalokohan ito!

saan napunta ang overcharge?

kung papansinin ang nakaraan,dalawa lang ang pupuntahan ng scam...este,scheme pala,scheme na ito......

una,sa bulsa ng mga lopez..at pangalawa....itanong niyo kay eugenio.....

nakapagtatakang ang isang institusyon ng kuryente ay naninigil ng sobra sobra....bakit kaya?

ABS-CBN:Nakinabang sa Overcharge?

naitanong niyo na ba ito sa sarili niyo?

1.bakit ang mamahal ng production ng abs-cbn gayong hindi kayag gumastos ng ganito kalaki ang mga producers nila?

2.bakit walang utang ang abs-cbn gayong ang laki laki ng gastos nila sa progams nila?

3.bakit kaya kahit na mahal ang produksyon ng programa ng abs,pataas ng pataas ang kita nito,samantalang ang sa meralco,kahit di gumagastos ay paliit ng paliit ang kita nito?

.....naku,baka masagot yan nila manuel lopez at ni eugenio III

3.45 Billion:taun-taon na ninanakaw!

sa nakalipas na 9 na taon,ilang bilyon na ba ang ninakaw ng mga lopez?

do this formula:the overcharge/the no.of years.

sa nakalipas na 9 na taon,P 32 Billion ang ninakaw sa manileno ng mga lopez,so:P 32 Billion/9 Years=P 3.455555555 Billion!!!!!!!!!(actually,the no.5 in the answer is infinite,walang katapusan!)

ngayon,maganda ba ang ginawa nila?

Overcharge,Ayaw Isauli?
bakt aya isauli ng MERALCO ang overcharge?

eto ang patunay.

eto yung pahayag ni elpi cuna,chairman ng meralco nang ipag-utos ng SC(supreme court) na isauli ang 32,463,927,318.02 pesos na over-charge nila sa taong-bayan................

"we cannot return the P32-B.ppa that was oer-charged by meralco,if we do that,metro manila will suffer major black-outs...this scenario would stop the operations of go't facilities like hospitals,jails and prisol cells,et.al

one day after that,kinapanayam siya ni kuya mike enriquez sa SAKSI SA DOUBLE B.narito ang pahayag niya.

MIKE ENRIQUEZ(M.E.):mr.chairman,sinabi nyo raw ho na hindi nyo
magagawang isauli ang 32 billion pesos na
overcharged nyo sa taong bayan,ano ho ang
masasabi nyo rito?

ELPI CUNA(E.C.):a........ang ibig ko pong sabihin sa panayam na yon
ay BAKA HINDI na po namin maisauli ang halagang
iyan dahil pag ginawa po naimn yan ay baka magkaroon
ng MAJOR BLACK-OUTS sa metro manila.

M.E.:teka.....ano ho,mr chairman?(dito,medyo tumaas ang bose ni kuya
mike dahil sa pagkagulat.)

E.P.:opo...mapuputol po ang serbisyo ng meralco.

M.E.:p...papaano ho mangyayari yon?(medyo tumaas uli ang boses niya.)
ano po ang koneksyon ng pagsasauli ng over charged na ppa nyo
sa taong bayan[sa pagkakaroon ng black-outs],mr chairman?

E.P.:ah....kung mangyayari po kasi iyon,mauudtlot po ang distribusyon ng
kuryente sa ating mga kababayan,pag nangyari po iyon,
maaapektuhan po pati ang serbisyo ng mga government facilities
katulad po ng ospital,hindi nila maseserbisyuhan ang mga pasyente
nila,gusto nyo ho ba na mangyari yon?(sinabi nya yon in soft and
gentle manner)

M.E.:excuse me po,pero malayo po ang sagot nyo sa tanong nyo, ang
tanong ko po e ganito,ano po ang koneksyon ng pagkakaroon ng
malawakang black-out sa pagbabayad ng sobrang singil nyo,mr
chairman?(dito,medyo naiirita na si kuya mike,pero patuloy siyang
nagtatanong.)

E.P.:yun nga ho,manong mike,ano....yunho ang mangyayari kung sakaling
ibalik namin ang overcharged namin sa taong bayan.

nang dahil siguro sa pagkairita kaya nag-proceed agad sa ikalawang tanong si kuya mike.

yan ang mga pahayag na lumabas sa bibig ng mga big bosses ng meralco,kayo na ang bahalang humusga sa kanila,basta ako,ang masasabi ko,GARAPAL SILA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



ABS-CBN:ginamit ang overcharge!

nakinabang ba ang ABS-CBN sa overcharge ng meralco?

sagot:may patunay man o wala,OO!!!

ayon sa imbestigasyon ng ERC at ng gobyerno,kalahati sa overcharge ng meralco ang pinaghatian ng mga kapatid na kumpanya nito...at syempre,kasama na dito ang ABS-CBN.

taun-taon,nasa P 1 Billion ang kita ng ABS-CBN sa kanilang mga programa...and form 1994 hanggang 2002,hindi ito nabawasan...hanggang sa nabuko ang kalokohan ng mga lopez.....

kaya nang magrefund(kung saan 25% pa lang ang nabibiyayaan nito...),nadamay ang kita ng ABS.....nabawasan ng husto....

kasama na rin sa mga nadamay ang kita ng mntc,maynilad at bayantel.

ABS-CBN:Maraming Imported Programs...

Bakit kaya maraming imported programs ang ABS-CBN noong 1994-2002?

sagot:Itanong kay Manuel Lopez.

kaya Anime Kabayan,wag na po kayong magtaka kung bakit maraming anime na pinalabas ang ABS-CBN noong 1994-2002.....nasa title.

Protektado ng Gobyerno!!!

alam niyo ba kung bakit noong 2003 lang inimbestigahan ng gobyerno ang kalokohan ng ABS-CBN,MERALCO at ng mga Lopez?

sagot:

1.May Utang na dapat bayaran ang govt sa mga Lopez.

Remember the Martial Law days?,bakit pinasara ni Marcos ang ABS-CBN?

sagot:

a.dahil malaki ang utang nila sa govt.
b.ayaw ni marcos na may kumakapit sa pamahalaan niya.

ngunit noong 1986,nagbukas uli sila nang dahil sa kagustuhan ng mga tao...although hindi pa sila kasikat noon.

at naisip ng ating gobyerno na may utang sila na dapat bayaran sa ABS,at sa mga lopez.....

kaya ang naisip nilang ibigay sa mga mokong:INCENTIVES.

2.protektado sila ng mga INCENTIVES ng pamahalaan kaya di sila magalaw nito....

3.umaangal na si Juan Dela Cruz... ang taas ng singil sa kuryente,tubig,cable at telepono.....

kaya hindi kusang ginawa ni Pang.Arroyo ang imbestigasyon....nagingay lang si Juan...napilitan lang si ate glo.

P 32 Billion Lang?

hindi dapat P32 Billion ang isauli ng mga Lopez sa MERALCO consumers....tumubo na ito ng interes....kaya pasalamat kayong mga lopez kayo,P 32 Billion Lang ang ibabalik niyo sa amin!!!!!

paano pa kaya pag may interes?

o,yan mga kapuso,may mga susunod pang rebelasyon sa mga hinayupak na yan!!!!

next topic:Kapit sa Gobyerno!

[burnik2001]

ano na namang kabulbulan yan. wala namang koneksyon sa pinaguusapan dito. :lol:

[burnik2001]

that's so true..

i mean some filipinos here are just buying expensive and luxurious stuffs to show-off to others na may kaya sila and sometimes in the end ang laki laki ng binabayad na utang or they are working 16hours straight just pay off their debts.

hindi din ok yun ha.

Pare, baka naman gusto lang nilang ienjoy and pinaghirapan nila. Di naman ibig sabihin na pinagyayabang nila yon. Siguro dito pa sa pinas pwede nilang iyabang, pero alam naman siguro nila na waepek yan sa US.

[boge]

Pare, baka naman gusto lang nilang ienjoy and pinaghirapan nila. Di naman ibig sabihin na pinagyayabang nila yon. Siguro dito pa sa pinas pwede nilang iyabang, pero alam naman siguro nila na waepek yan sa US.

yeah some of them want to enjoy it i understand na meron talagang mga taong parang binibigyan nila ng reward yung sarili nila sa pagtratrabaho ng sobra sobra.

what i'm just trying to say is that some filipinos here buy expensive stuffs tapos nagtratrabaho ng 16hours para lang mabayaran yun. hey i also encountered talaga some filipinos na pinagyayabang nila yung kanilang mga mercedes/bmw or kahit simpleng kotse na customize. hindi ko naman nilalahat meron talagang mayayabang at nagyayabang, minsan talaga nakakainis na kasi eh. hey.. they don't need to show-off parepareho lang kami dito.

meron pa nga ibang pilipino pinamumukha nila na ang tagal2 na nila dito na kesyo ganyan or ganyan.. eh hellow option lang namin pumunta dito dahil ok na ok kami sa pinas. we just went here dahil this is an opportunity hindi dahil kailangan namin unlike some of them dahil nahihirapan sila sa pinas.

[boge]

minsan talaga nakakainis na yung pinipigilan mo na wag patulan.

pero sa sobrang sobra na, hindi mo na mapigilan mambara sa mga pilipinong mayayabang dito

[gpanch]

ano na namang kabulbulan yan. wala namang koneksyon sa pinaguusapan dito. :lol:

Yeah! And so outdated :lol: . Natutulog yata sa kangkungan ang mokong. :lol: