Best Universities in the Philippines

[storm_catcher]

excuse me lang po,curious lang kung sino man nakakaalam pwede bang paki rank kahit 1-10 or to 5 lang, yung best univ. sa phil. nag-research kasi ako, sabi sa Asia Week (2000) pa 'to ha la me makita mas latest UP,DLSU,ADMU,UST, sa business schools (course) naman sa phil. AIM,UP (coll. of bus), DLSU (BMG) sa research DLSU,UP,ADMU... kung pwede paki update... sana yung totoo ha, yung may pruweba na maipapakita... if you ask me kung anong purpose ko ba't ko tinatanong... wala lang curious lang po... masama ba mag tanong!

[Smat]

1 ateneo - small university but very high standards
2 up - broadest course offerings and very good quality throughout
3 ust - strong in specific areas like medicine, archi, philo, fine arts, journalism.

[storm_catcher]

ops... wala munang kokontra!

http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/features/mba/data/philippines.html

http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/features/universities2000/schools/multi.overall.html

mern kayo ng mas recent?

so lumalabas:

1/ UP

2/ DLSU

3/ AdMU

4/ UST

sa Business

1/ AIM

2/ UP

3/ DLSU

--->>> ayos... Go La Salle!:rolleyes:

[Royal_Highness]

1 - UP or Ateneo
3 UST

___________
DLSU is excluded because of its tambakan reputation.

[RECORDER]

My Opinion <-- I stress on this one ok? ;)

Socially Elite:

1. DLSU
2. ATENEO
3. UST
4. UP

Quality of Students (Brilliance, student selectivity/rententivity and morals)

1. UP
2. ATENEO
3. UST
4. DLSU

[twelve_12]

If salary per capita is the basis:
1)DLSU
2)ADMU
3)UP

In other words, it's not how good other people think you are, but rather how good you really are.

PS:The rankings are not mine. Got those from a survey. I just can't remember the organization that conducted the survey.

[tyanak_me]

Check your logic. If what you're saying is true, you're proof to the saying "money doesn't automatically confer intelligence."

[alj]

Originally posted by RECORDER
My Opinion <-- I stress on this one ok? ;)

Socially Elite:

1. DLSU
2. ATENEO
3. UST
4. UP


What do you mean by "Social Elite"? Perhaps you meant "universities where there are high proportions of affluent/rich students in ratio to the universities’ population". If that were what you meant, you'd be flabbergasted you'd find out it’s very hard to park your car in UP-Diliman campus more so in UP-Manila.


Where rich students go:

1/2. Ateneo/De La Salle
3. UA&P
4. UP


Where rich students want to go:

1. UP
2. Ateneo
3. De La Salle

Other universitites are always back up schools. This is a fact!

[storm_catcher]

Originally posted by Royal_Highness
1 - UP or Ateneo
3 UST

___________
DLSU is excluded because of its tambakan reputation.

:bash: excuse me? TAMBAKAN REP! alam ko at TOTOO TO! na UST ang tambakan, diba you have the so-called 3rd choice! so kahit na di ka pumasa sa Entrance Test, basta may pera ka at gusto mo talagang ipagpilitan ang sarili mo eh, makakapasok ka! :scream: don't deny, I know this for a fact! [esp. sa College of Education ng USTe] :spank:

[charcoal]

university of the philippines
ateneo

[dijkstra]

hindi pa ba kayo nagsasawa sa ganitong topic?

Originally posted by storm_catcher
ops... wala munang kokontra!

http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/features/mba/data/philippines.html

http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/features/universities2000/schools/multi.overall.html

mern kayo ng mas recent?

so lumalabas:

1/ UP

2/ DLSU

3/ AdMU

4/ UST

pwede na bang kumontra? i think so.

do you why asiaweek's latest ranking was in year 2000? that is because it has realized that it is not credible in doing that. otherwise, they would have extended it until 2002.

your source for ranking is already outdated.



sa Business

1/ AIM

2/ UP

3/ DLSU

--->>> ayos... Go La Salle!:rolleyes:

according to asiaweek lasalle ranks number 1 in the philippines, how come that you are a poor reflection of this rank? it only shows that asiaweek is not credible and reliable.

do you know why ateneo was not in list of best mba schools? check this: http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/features/mba/missing.html

i think your last line should not be Go la salle, but bobo la salle. if you are not convinced, you better check your head. of course, i can't expect you to find anything because there is nothing there.

[dijkstra]

i missed out something

Originally posted by dijkstra
according to asiaweek lasalle ranks number 1 in the philippines,

. . .in terms of research and publication. . .

[eigenvector007]

Originally posted by alj


Where rich students want to go:

1. UP
2. Ateneo
3. De La Salle

Other universitites are always back up schools. This is a fact!

it is very easy to say "this is a fact" but it is very difficult to show proofs that will back that up.

[alj]

Originally posted by eigenvector007


it is very easy to say "this is a fact" but it is very difficult to show proofs that will back that up.

Helloooooo! If you were offered to study in UP with scholarship wouldn't you get it?

[Maroonest]

Originally posted by alj
Helloooooo! If you were offered to study in UP with scholarship wouldn't you get it?

Not necessarily. There are other factors apart from money that come into play in the decision-making, such as: school culture, school safety, overall environment, school crowd, facilities, family tradition, religion, location, etc.

I, for example, ended up in UP but my first preference was really ADMU because of family tradition, among others. I did not get accepted to the course I wanted to take in ADMU but got what I wanted in UP.

Peace.

[alj]

Originally posted by Maroonest


Not necessarily. There are other factors apart from money that come into play in the decision-making, such as: school culture, school safety, overall environment, school crowd, facilities, family tradition, religion, location, etc.

I, for example, ended up in UP but my first preference was really ADMU because of family tradition, among others. I did not get accepted to the course I wanted to take in ADMU but got what I wanted in UP.

Peace. That’s a rare case! At least not UST over UP.

[Braveheart]

well, i chose ust over up. another rare case? :)

[joekristoffer]

pero *** naman sa skul yan di ba... nasa student?

[dijkstra]

Originally posted by alj


Helloooooo! If you were offered to study in UP with scholarship wouldn't you get it?


i got accepted in UP with my first choice economics. that implied an automatic scholar ng bayan status.

on the other hand, i did not get my first choice in the ateneo. i was given 100% scholarship for tuition and fees, living allowance and book allowance.

in the end, what school did i choose?

ateneo.

if i chose UP, i could have been worse off. to compare myself with my former high school classmates who chose UP, i think i am a lot better in a lot of things particularly in keeping my self in the right direction without the guidance of my parents.

my former classmates who chose UP have already been into drugs, have gotten their girlfriends pregnant, and have become violent, disrespectful and quarrelsome. to use an appropriate term, patapon na ang mga buhay nila.

the question now is: if UP students were offered scholarships in the ateneo, would they have chosen ateneo?

i think so.

17% of the students of the ateneo are scholars. a lot of them are honor students from high schools in different provinces. in fact, for 2 consecutive years, the valedictorians of the ateneo come from poor families.

one of them is roselle ambubuyog, the blind valedictorian. if she chose UP over the ateneo, she could have been worse off. you just don't know how much support ateneo has given her.

[ashley_05]

Originally posted by dijkstra
the question now is: if UP students were offered scholarships in the ateneo, would they have chosen ateneo?

i think so.

...
one of them is roselle ambubuyog, the blind valedictorian. if she chose UP over the ateneo, she could have been worse off. you just don't know how much support ateneo has given her.

Answer I chose UP. ;)
I got my ADMU 1st choice and a scholarship, still, I choose UP. For me, nothing beats UP in quality education. :cool:
And, not all UP students turn out to be "patapon"... becoming who you are now is not at all related to the school you chose to go to. Man forms the course of his own life. Kaya if your acquaintances turned out to be "patapon", that is their own doing... UP has nothing to do with it. :rolleyes:
As a matter of fact, I am in UP and I am nowhere near being a "patapon." :p

About Roselle Ambubuyog, are you aware that she is now in UP? Taking up a graduate degree, I think. And, do you know that she is an Oblation Scholar? :)

[alj]

Dijkstra,

I’d like to respond to your comments point by point. Please read below.



“i got accepted in UP with my first choice economics. that implied an automatic scholar ng bayan status.”


Congratulations! I always have higher admiration to those who have successfully hurdled the UPCAT. Economics is a “Quota” course so that made me to believe that you are very, very intelligent. I did not pass that same exam 3 years ago. That must have caused me to believe I’m substandard compared to the UPians. But, mind you. I passed the ACET – BS Biology but opted to enroll in MSU-Iligan.




“on the other hand, i did not get my first choice in the ateneo. i was given 100% scholarship for tuition and fees, living allowance and book allowance.”

I’m curious. Not that I don’t believe you but I always thought Ateneo gives out scholarship (specially 100%) to those applicants belonging to the top 15% in the ACET. If the Ateneo has offered you a scholarship, you must have scored well in their entrance test, don’t you think? I don’t think even Ateneo’s ME could monopolize those top 15% ACET qualifiers. So how can they (Ateneo) have given you full scholarship plus the stipend when you only did fairly in their tests? Shouldn’t they expect you to be extremely good? Such an extreme case but possible!




“in the end, what school did i choose?

ateneo.”


Well, that’s your personal choice and you may have good reasons for choosing Ateneo over UP. But I hope the reason NOT being quality and prestige.




“if i chose UP, i could have been worse off.



That is just your mere conjecture! Many people who have graduated from UP are better off economically than most graduates from Ateneo. But I have to agree; few Ateneo grads really get very successful.




to compare myself with my former high school classmates who chose UP, i think i am a lot better in a lot of things particularly in keeping my self in the right direction without the guidance of my parents.

my former classmates who chose UP have already been into drugs, have gotten their girlfriends pregnant, and have become violent, disrespectful and quarrelsome. to use an appropriate term, patapon na ang mga buhay nila.”


There should have been varied reasons why some of your former classmates chose to destroy themselves (literally) rather than taking advantage of the excellent education UP offered them.

Their UP education has put your old pals lives is disarray? Maybe or, maybe not!

I shouldn’t think UP educate its students to ruin their lives. I thought UP teaches its students to think and to aspire to be leaders. Your friends dilemma must have been caused by UP’s open society. A culture that UP is very much known for. If you think you cannot stand the trials of UP’s intense milieu then UP is certainly NOT for you. Weak people is not for UP and UP is not for week students! If you’ll have to analyze carefully the shared-quality of most of UP’s successful alumni, its “strong character” apart from wit that you’ll realize they have.







“the question now is: if UP students were offered scholarships in the ateneo, would they have chosen ateneo?

i think so.”



I should say, perhaps. But the figure is insignificant. The “yield” percentage of 93% of UP is far higher than the 49% of the Ateneo.







“17% of the students of the ateneo are scholars. a lot of them are honor students from high schools in different provinces. in fact, for 2 consecutive years, the valedictorians of the ateneo come from poor families.”



100% of students in UP are scholars. The bracket 9ners of UP who are paying P300 per unit are also considered scholars. UP is a government subsidized! What UP students are paying is only a fraction of the whole cost of a UP education. P12,000 per semester for a medicine proper course is a meager more so for a P5,600 per semester for a UP Law degree!

UP enrolls many HS valedictorians. In my opinion, it has the most number of HS valedictorians and salutatorians than any university in the country. Not even Ateneo could come close to this feat! You rarely convene HS honor students outside the ME and ECE departments of the Ateneo. Don’t count La Salle here. They’re certainly NOT in the same level.







“one of them is roselle ambubuyog, the blind valedictorian. if she chose UP over the ateneo, she could have been worse off. you just don't know how much support ateneo has given her.”



Good for Roselle! But she never got into UP Diliman the first time she applied in UP. And where is she now? She’s in UP-Diliman taking further studies in Mathematics. You see, even top Ateneo graduates want a bit of their lives spent at UP for career progression. And, who knows? You might go to UP for your Masteral or Doctorate when you could no longer afford to study abroad for the high cost of education associated with living there.

[Braveheart]

that's crap, alj.

[alj]

Originally posted by Braveheart
well, i chose ust over up. another rare case? :)

I hope I did not offend you but my answer to your question is a big yes.:p

[alj]

Originally posted by Braveheart
that's crap, alj.

And that’s sourgraping, braveheart.

[Braveheart]

:lol:. you're such an immature u.p. ***** from msu-iligan. the name of the school has nothing to do with success. my bro's a up grad and i am more successful than he is not bec. i am thomasian and he's from up, but bec. i am smarter than he. :)

[alj]

Originally posted by Braveheart
:lol:. you're such an immature u.p. ***** from msu-iligan. the name of the school has nothing to do with success. my bro's a up grad and i am more successful than he is not bec. i am thomasian and he's from up, but bec. i am smarter than he. :) I'm sorry to say that your seemingly poor writing skills do not level up to your self-acclaimed success story. There is no way you could be smarter than your brother who is from UP. The fact that he is from UP suggests that he is way above your intellectual prowess and your being in UST implies you’re a second rate trying hard UP wannabe. At least I’m honest enough to admit that I’m not from an elite university.

UST in the league of UP, Ateneo and La Salle? In your dreams!


Btw, most successful people have a sound manner. Watch yours if you've got one.:rolleyes:

[Braveheart]

poor writing skills? saan?

hindi talaga ka-league ng UST yung 3 yun kasi mas angat ang UST sa mga 'yun. :p

tumigil ka na nga, taga-msu iligan ka lang eh, d ba? :)

[alj]

Originally posted by Braveheart
poor writing skills? saan?

tumigil ka na nga, taga-msu iligan ka lang eh, d ba? :) Oh, you poor Thomasian you! You are a big disgrace to your fellow thomasinos. You can even hardly detect simple grammatical flaws you yourself committed and you’ve got the balls to taunt others.

I’d rather be in MSU-Iligan feeling good in my studies and having to enjoy my life than be a thomasino who pompously feels he has distended credentials but knows scantily and thinks poorly.

And, yes! It’s the individual rather than the school you have gone to, as you’re a big example of.

[Braveheart]

where?

[wired_00]

Originally posted by storm_catcher


:bash: excuse me? TAMBAKAN REP! alam ko at TOTOO TO! na UST ang tambakan, diba you have the so-called 3rd choice! so kahit na di ka pumasa sa Entrance Test, basta may pera ka at gusto mo talagang ipagpilitan ang sarili mo eh, makakapasok ka! :scream: don't deny, I know this for a fact! [esp. sa College of Education ng USTe] :spank:


Check your facts. UST offers NO third choice when u take the USTET. And don't pass into others your school's reputation. Kayo lang ang "kahit di pumasa sa entrance test basta may pera at gusto ipagpilitan sarili eh makakpasok na".:rolleyes:

[wired_00]

Originally posted by alj


What do you mean by "Social Elite"? Perhaps you meant "universities where there are high proportions of affluent/rich students in ratio to the universities’ population". If that were what you meant, you'd be flabbergasted you'd find out it’s very hard to park your car in UP-Diliman campus more so in UP-Manila.


Where rich students go:

1/2. Ateneo/De La Salle
3. UA&P
4. UP


Where rich students want to go:

1. UP
2. Ateneo
3. De La Salle

Other universitites are always back up schools. This is a fact!



Fact? Says who? you? Pfft... Pfft... Pfft... TRY HARDER... :rotflmao:

[wired_00]

Originally posted by alj


Helloooooo! If you were offered to study in UP with scholarship wouldn't you get it?

NO. UST is Royal. Pontifical. Catholic. UP is not.

[mac_bolan00]

thank GOD UP isn't. :D

[wired_00]

This is how I personally see it.

UP is ahead the other three schools (AdMU, UST, DLSU). But there are a lot of factors that make applicants choose the other three (excellence in specific fields, a catholic upbringing, homogeneity of students, etc.) I think the rankings of the other schools after UP are very close to one another, so there is no reason to brag one is far more better than the other.

[wired_00]

Originally posted by mac_bolan00
thank GOD UP isn't. :D

and never will be.

[sievolym]

KAKAPAGOD NA!!!!! Hindi ba niyo nare-realize na kahit ano pang proof ang ipakita mo dito eh siguradong meron at merong kokontra-bulate!!!!! Abe, eh kung anu-anong survey results ng kung sinu-sinong magazines ang lumabas telling all of us rankings ng ilang schools dito sa Pilipinas…ano? Bilib ba lahat dun?! Hindi naman di ba?! May isa, dalawa, tatlo at kung ilan-ilan pa diyan ang pumuputak at nagrereklamo at nagsasabing hindi credible ang survey results at ang nag-conduct ng survey, etc…etc…etc…

Sige, mag-away tayong lahat hangga’t gusto natin….Ipagtanggol ang iskuwelahang pinasukan at pinapasukan pa ng iba diyan! Pero saan ba ang bagsak ng lahat ng pagtatalong ‘to? Sa tao rin!!! Sa estudyante!!!! Oo nga, galing ka sa magandang eskuwelahan, UP, Ateneo, UST o kung saan man, pero nasa tao pa rin yun kung ano magiging takbo ng buhay mo after school.

Gaya nung sabi ng isang nag-post dito….siya graduate ng UST, yung kapatid graduate ng UP, pero mas-successful daw siya kasi he’s smarter…whatever……so nasa tao pa rin yun!!!

It helps, pag-nagapply ka ng work at medyo iba ang tingin pag graduate ka ng UP o Ateneo, pero it is not a guarantee…hindi lang yon ang tinitingnan mga ineng at amang, sus ginoo! Kaya nga may resume eh! Ilalagay mo dun ang iba pang mga bagay-bagay tungkol sa iyo at sa buhay mo sa pinasukan mong iskwelahan at dun makikita ang potential mo…kung meron man.

Ako, graduate ako ng UP Diliman – Chem Eng’g…heto suwerte naman at nakakuha ng magandang trabaho. Pero, hindi lahat ng kasama ko dito sa office eh lahat taga-UP. May-taga UST….Mapua….at kung saan-saan pa…and kung ang basehan lang ng pagtanggap ng mga kumpanya sa mga aplikante nila eh ang iskuwelahang pinasukan mo nung nag-aaral ka pa….kung UP man ang pinakamagaling na iskwelahan, eh di sana, puro taga-UP kami lahat dito....ang kaso, hindi eh!!!

Hay naku, basta…ako masaya at gumraduate ako sa “isa” sa pinakamagandang iskwelahan dito sa atin….well ayon na rin sa iba, at siyempre base na rin sa experience ko. Pero honestly, wala akong masabi tungkol sa ibang schools kasi hindi naman ako nag-aral dun at hindi ko alam kung paano tin-train ang mga estudyante. If I say that UP is a good school…it is…kasi I’ve experienced it! Pwede wala na lang kokontra lalo na't kung hindi ka taga-UP. Kung atenista ka at sabihin mong magaling ang ateneo, ok fine!!! Sabi mo eh!!! :winker:

If I say that Ateneo is good, or UST man (baby ko, taga-UST, I love you!!! Smart yun!!!) …well ang basis ko na lang siguro eh yung mga naikukuwento ng mga kaibigan kong duon nag-aral at nag-aaral.

YUN LANG TENK YU!!!!

KAKAPAGOD TALAGA!!! BAHALA NA NGA KAYO SA MGA MONAY NIYONG PI-PE!!!!!

Sige na, mag-aral na lang kayo mabuti!!!!

[wired_00]

Originally posted by alj


I hope I did not offend you but my answer to your question is a big yes.:p

Excuse me, but for your information, a lot of students at UST were UPCAT passers but still preferred to study in UST. And I think the same case goes with AdMU and DLSU. Not all of us are UPCAT rejects, you know. I for one, passed UPLB but opted to study at UST. Don't say its a rare case. You're not enrolled in any of those aforementioned schools which does not bring you to a good position in making comments like that. I don't wanna bash you, ok? Its just not good to hear comments like that.:)

[wired_00]

SIEVOLYM is correct. This is getting sick. Don't pexers ever get tired of bashing one another? As if everyone cares who is the best...

peace.






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...and everything's just another footprint in the sand.

And everyone's just another face in an empty crowd...

[sievolym]

Ang kulit!!! sabi nang mag-aral mabuti eh!!!!! :mad:

[slick_chick]

Originally posted by sievolym
Ang kulit!!! sabi nang mag-aral mabuti eh!!!!! :mad:

hoy wag kang mag-inarte dyan! syempre mag-aral talaga ng mabuti di mo na kelangan sabihin basta UP pa rin at Diliman, take note yung iba nagfi-feeling na branch dyan... naku... :vomit:

[criticguy]

accdg. to BPI , the country's top universities:

Metro Manila

Ateneo de Manila University
De La Salle University
University of Sto. Tomas
University of the Philippines-Diliman

Luzon

St. Louis University
University of the Philippines-Los Baños

Visayas

Silliman University
University of San Carlos

Mindanao

Ateneo de Davao University
Xavier University-Ateneo de Cagayan


PEACE

[cathy_so]

I think you have some facts twisted. A very dear relative of mine who works at the HRD of BPI says in this order:
1 – UP
2 – Ateneo
3 – De La Salle

And for the your information this is how other credible institution ranks our local universities:

British Council:

1 – UP
2 – Ateneo
3 – UST


Acceptable to Australian Universities:

UP/Ateneo/De La Salle/UA&P (grad studies only)


US Ranking:

1 – UP
2 – UST

[miller31]

to the thread starter: look at what you've done? nag-away-away lang ang mga nagpost dito. it is stupid to rank the best schools in the philippines kasi WALANG MAGPAPATALO SA MGA YON. can't you get that!

it is really pathetic how people will go out of their way in bringing other schools down just to pull theirs up. it is so disgusting that i just can't believer the UPians, Ateneans and yes, even La Sallians are willing to stoop to new lows just to defend their misguided sense of "school pride."

pexers, let's try to ignore these kinds of threads, wala naman tayong nahihita eh. all that people do is to bash the other person's school. di pa ba tayo magsasasawa.

to the moderators: these are the kind of threads that you MUST CLOSE! these sow the feeling of animosity and disunity among the youth, and what's worst, these are the people who are in the position of shaping the nation's future (the up, dlsu and admu students). maybe all of you need some time to reflect on the negative effect of letting threads like these proliferate her in pex.


peace to all.

[sievolym]

Originally posted by slick_chick


hoy wag kang mag-inarte dyan! syempre mag-aral talaga ng mabuti di mo na kelangan sabihin basta UP pa rin at Diliman, take note yung iba nagfi-feeling na branch dyan... naku... :vomit:


:bounce2:

[sievolym]

Originally posted by slick_chick


hoy wag kang mag-inarte dyan! syempre mag-aral talaga ng mabuti di mo na kelangan sabihin basta UP pa rin at Diliman, take note yung iba nagfi-feeling na branch dyan... naku... :vomit:

:bounce2: Sino? Kausap mo? :superevil:

[sievolym]

Originally posted by storm_catcher


:bash: excuse me? TAMBAKAN REP! alam ko at TOTOO TO! na UST ang tambakan, diba you have the so-called 3rd choice! so kahit na di ka pumasa sa Entrance Test, basta may pera ka at gusto mo talagang ipagpilitan ang sarili mo eh, makakapasok ka! :scream: don't deny, I know this for a fact! [esp. sa College of Education ng USTe] :spank:

Eh ano nga ang magagawa mo kung gusto nga ipagpilitan nung tao sarili niya?

Ano ngayon ang gusto mo palabasin? Kung hindi pumasa yung tao dun sa gusto niya pasukan, yung lilipatan niya na eskuwelahan eh TAMBAKAN na ang tawag mo?!?! Asus!

Saang school ka galing?! :confused: Ano pinagmamalaki mo?!

[InevitablyMe]

:shrug:

:shrug2:

:bookworm2:

:vale:

[InevitablyMe]

Originally posted by sievolym
KAKAPAGOD NA!!!!! Hindi ba niyo nare-realize na kahit ano pang proof ang ipakita mo dito eh siguradong meron at merong kokontra-bulate!!!!! Abe, eh kung anu-anong survey results ng kung sinu-sinong magazines ang lumabas telling all of us rankings ng ilang schools dito sa Pilipinas…ano? Bilib ba lahat dun?! Hindi naman di ba?! May isa, dalawa, tatlo at kung ilan-ilan pa diyan ang pumuputak at nagrereklamo at nagsasabing hindi credible ang survey results at ang nag-conduct ng survey, etc…etc…etc…

Sige, mag-away tayong lahat hangga’t gusto natin….Ipagtanggol ang iskuwelahang pinasukan at pinapasukan pa ng iba diyan! Pero saan ba ang bagsak ng lahat ng pagtatalong ‘to? Sa tao rin!!! Sa estudyante!!!! Oo nga, galing ka sa magandang eskuwelahan, UP, Ateneo, UST o kung saan man, pero nasa tao pa rin yun kung ano magiging takbo ng buhay mo after school.

Gaya nung sabi ng isang nag-post dito….siya graduate ng UST, yung kapatid graduate ng UP, pero mas-successful daw siya kasi he’s smarter…whatever……so nasa tao pa rin yun!!!

It helps, pag-nagapply ka ng work at medyo iba ang tingin pag graduate ka ng UP o Ateneo, pero it is not a guarantee…hindi lang yon ang tinitingnan mga ineng at amang, sus ginoo! Kaya nga may resume eh! Ilalagay mo dun ang iba pang mga bagay-bagay tungkol sa iyo at sa buhay mo sa pinasukan mong iskwelahan at dun makikita ang potential mo…kung meron man.

Ako, graduate ako ng UP Diliman – Chem Eng’g…heto suwerte naman at nakakuha ng magandang trabaho. Pero, hindi lahat ng kasama ko dito sa office eh lahat taga-UP. May-taga UST….Mapua….at kung saan-saan pa…and kung ang basehan lang ng pagtanggap ng mga kumpanya sa mga aplikante nila eh ang iskuwelahang pinasukan mo nung nag-aaral ka pa….kung UP man ang pinakamagaling na iskwelahan, eh di sana, puro taga-UP kami lahat dito....ang kaso, hindi eh!!!

Hay naku, basta…ako masaya at gumraduate ako sa “isa” sa pinakamagandang iskwelahan dito sa atin….well ayon na rin sa iba, at siyempre base na rin sa experience ko. Pero honestly, wala akong masabi tungkol sa ibang schools kasi hindi naman ako nag-aral dun at hindi ko alam kung paano tin-train ang mga estudyante. If I say that UP is a good school…it is…kasi I’ve experienced it! Pwede wala na lang kokontra lalo na't kung hindi ka taga-UP. Kung atenista ka at sabihin mong magaling ang ateneo, ok fine!!! Sabi mo eh!!! :winker:

If I say that Ateneo is good, or UST man (baby ko, taga-UST, I love you!!! Smart yun!!!) …well ang basis ko na lang siguro eh yung mga naikukuwento ng mga kaibigan kong duon nag-aral at nag-aaral.

YUN LANG TENK YU!!!!

KAKAPAGOD TALAGA!!! BAHALA NA NGA KAYO SA MGA MONAY NIYONG PI-PE!!!!!

Sige na, mag-aral na lang kayo mabuti!!!!

*okay*

:bow:

correct ka jan ... its very tiring na kasi!! you guys came from the best schools right ... sige na ok na lahat na kayo "the best" !!okay ... buhay nga naman ... :rotflmao:

[criticguy]

Originally posted by cathy_so
I think you have some facts twisted. A very dear relative of mine who works at the HRD of BPI says in this order:
1 – UP
2 – Ateneo
3 – De La Salle

And for the your information this is how other credible institution ranks our local universities:

British Council:

1 – UP
2 – Ateneo
3 – UST


Acceptable to Australian Universities:

UP/Ateneo/De La Salle/UA&P (grad studies only)


US Ranking:

1 – UP
2 – UST

hahaha...

funny...

did i ranked? hmm.

my list were alphabetically accdg to the region...

okey?

PEACE

[storm_catcher]

Originally posted by criticguy


hahaha...

funny...

did i ranked? hmm.

my list were alphabetically accdg to the region...

okey?

PEACE

nice defense I should say...

[storm_catcher]

sa mga nag-iinit na dyan...
lang pikunan... posts lang...

:greenhat:

[joekristoffer]

Its not the school or university... it's the quality of the students that are enrolled...

[sievolym]

Originally posted by storm_catcher
sa mga nag-iinit na dyan...
lang pikunan... posts lang...

:greenhat:

..nga naman....:blah2:

Pero may pinagmamalaki ka nga ba? :devious:

[cathy_so]

Originally posted by criticguy


hahaha...

funny...

did i ranked? hmm.

my list were alphabetically accdg to the region...

okey?

PEACE

Sorry, ha. I have completely misunderstood your post.:o tapos mali pa grammar ko.:o Dapat: And for the your information this is how other credible institutions rank our local universities:
Kakahiya talaga:o

[neogattaca]

accdg. to BPI , the country's top universities:

What no UPV??????:mad:

Those BPI ****** might have been looking the other way!!!

Or they are simply blind.

slick_chick quote:

What branches???

Other universities in the UP system are not just mere branches:mad:

ohh, I get it, u also feel the Diliman so called "superiority".
You got too much hot air in you;) maybe you need someone like me to get you back to reality.

[panicroom]

ateneo de manila

and

up-diliman

[articus]

para sa ibang mga mayabang diyan kayo ang mga klaseng taong kinahihiya ng mga Universities niyo...

to be honest guys, wala naman ata kayong na contribute sa mga pinagmamalaking eskwelahan nyo... your just living in the illusion na dala kayo sa mga qualities ng inyong school :cool:

for all the UPV "Scions" people we rule....

wag na kayong humirit pa... its in print na:D

[RiKiMaRuH]

Originally posted by wired_00



Check your facts. UST offers NO third choice when u take the USTET. And don't pass into others your school's reputation. Kayo lang ang "kahit di pumasa sa entrance test basta may pera at gusto ipagpilitan sarili eh makakpasok na".:rolleyes:

you're totally wrong. in the application process, UST does not offer a third choice, but when the results are up, students who reached the quota who didn't pass either the first or the second choices can choose a third choice course.

[storm_catcher]

Originally posted by wired_00



Check your facts. UST offers NO third choice when u take the USTET. And don't pass into others your school's reputation. Kayo lang ang "kahit di pumasa sa entrance test basta may pera at gusto ipagpilitan sarili eh makakpasok na".:rolleyes:

I THINK YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE WHO SHOULD CHECK YOUR SO CALLED 'FACTS!'

I took the test and I PASSED! After the exam we were told that the result is going to be posted on the Lobby of the educ. bldg. and the letters will follow, if for some reasons we don't pass [don't know what 'coz the test is pretty easy...] we could try and apply for another course [the so called 'third choice' tambakan: College of Education! source: my UST friends from College of Commerce] all we need to do is to pay some amounts and in some cases undergo an interview then.... WHALAH! TOMASINO KA NA!

[ZaMaZiPaZaM]

Originally posted by storm_catcher


I THINK YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE WHO SHOULD CHECK YOUR SO CALLED 'FACTS!'

I took the test and I PASSED! After the exam we were told that the result is going to be posted on the Lobby of the educ. bldg. and the letters will follow, if for some reasons we don't pass [don't know what 'coz the test is pretty easy...] we could try and apply for another course [the so called 'third choice' tambakan: College of Education! source: my UST friends from College of Commerce] all we need to do is to pay some amounts and in some cases undergo an interview then.... WHALAH! TOMASINO KA NA!

totoo yan! yung cousin ko di pumasa pero nasa USTe sya ngayon!

:greenhat:

[cutegirl2002]

1. Ateneo de Manila
2.UP-diliman
3.DLSU-Manila
4.UST
5.UA&P
6.Xavier University
7.Silliman University
8.UP-Los Baños
9.Ateneo de Davao
10.St. Louis University

[snowtiger]

ateneo de manila university
de la salle university
university of the philippines

:)

[Precious84]

and others....

UP's other branches
Ateneo de Manila University (all branches)
De La Salle University (all branches)

***and I emphasize, my own opinion ha? I really don't know with the other universities 'coz I just don't trust anything at all unless I experience it

but...

I somehow agree with alj and totally agree with sievolym.

additional lang...

the quality of the system of education of the best universities is not based on factors such as financial and personal (the students) although these really do affect the output

for example, with UA&P, Ateneo and DLSU, their financial ability to purchase top-of-the-line educational facilities, not to mention, high-tech visual gadgets for educational assistance, helps a lot in a student's academic development therefore making them technically in advantage over the other students of other universities

in UP's case, and other not-so-affluent universities (such as PUP, PLM), it's ability to open new alternatives to expensive high-tech educational facilities, makes the students emotionally and tactically in advantage over other students who can't relate during times of extreme crisis and poverty; this system of thought included in the educational curricula of these kinds of schools is still, no doubt, one of the factors why most people consider them as the best






I used to believe that the quality of the output (the grads) of a university determines its fate in terms of being one of the best.

Relative ang case na yan.

It also depends on the specialty of a certain university. Kung AMA or STI, we could totally conclude that they're two of the best computer schools in the country because they focus in developing their computer courses.

Tapos pwedeng sabihin na nasa system na rin ng pagtuturo ng mga professors nadedetermine kung ok or the best ang education sa isang univ. Hindi dahil sa summa cum laude sila or they graduated with a doctorate degree nasasabing the best ang isang institution because they have these people. Merong magaling nga intellectually pero sa way ng pagtuturo at resourcefulness, ok ba sila?






And time and again, I repeat, no bashing please :)

[Xgames]

Originally posted by Precious84
and others....

UP's other branches
Ateneo de Manila University (all branches)
De La Salle University (all branches)



just for a correction.

ADMU has no branches.

maybe you mean Ateneo Network composed of 5 Ateneo schools in the Philippines.

a branch campus is different from an independent school. l

[Precious84]

Originally posted by Xgames


just for a correction.

ADMU has no branches.

maybe you mean Ateneo Network composed of 5 Ateneo schools in the Philippines.

a branch campus is different from an independent school. l


ah ok. sabi mo eh. thanks for correcting me. :)

[whyte]

Originally posted by neogattaca

What no UPV??????:mad:

Those BPI ****** might have been looking the other way!!!

Or they are simply blind.




:D :D :D :D

Mas mataas pa ang standard sang CPU kay sa UPV!
Dalahig lang kamo sa UP "syndrome"!

[tyanak_me]

Originally posted by dijkstra
i got accepted in UP with my first choice economics. that implied an automatic scholar ng bayan status.

on the other hand, i did not get my first choice in the ateneo. i was given 100% scholarship for tuition and fees, living allowance and book allowance.

in the end, what school did i choose?

ateneo.

if i chose UP, i could have been worse off. to compare myself with my former high school classmates who chose UP, i think i am a lot better in a lot of things particularly in keeping my self in the right direction without the guidance of my parents.

my former classmates who chose UP have already been into drugs, have gotten their girlfriends pregnant, and have become violent, disrespectful and quarrelsome. to use an appropriate term, patapon na ang mga buhay nila.

the question now is: if UP students were offered scholarships in the ateneo, would they have chosen ateneo?

i think so.

17% of the students of the ateneo are scholars. a lot of them are honor students from high schools in different provinces. in fact, for 2 consecutive years, the valedictorians of the ateneo come from poor families.

one of them is roselle ambubuyog, the blind valedictorian. if she chose UP over the ateneo, she could have been worse off. you just don't know how much support ateneo has given her.
What you're saying is a witless guy who'll probably flunk out of UP, screw around, and do drugs, will do well in Ateneo.

Will all you liars please quit this now? The UP Registrar's Office says more than 97% of those admitted into a program in Diliman actually matriculate in Diliman. You people are pathetic.

[cathy_so]

Originally posted by tyanak_me The UP Registrar's Office says more than 97% of those admitted into a program in Diliman actually matriculate in Diliman.

That is TRUE. This year, the yield in UP Diliman is 97.78% while 98.92 in UP Manila. UP Visayas has the lowest with only a 82.11% yield.

[frank]

I am a complete "outsider". I am British, live in England, and have had all my education in English schools and universities. I work at present in a British University. I have never been to the Philippines.

I am interested in other cultures, especially East Asian ones (my parents were Chinese), and am very interested in Higher Education (universities etc.). The USA HE system is especially interesting, and the Philippine system seems to be in some ways quite similar to the American.

It might interest some of you engaged in this "discussion" how a complete outsider, who has studied some of the evidence on the internet, view things. As far as I can see, at present, the "ranking" goes something like this:

1. UP

(large gap)

2= DLSU, ADMU, UST. These three seem to rank very closely together, and it's probably largely subjective in which order you place them. Most of the posts in these "discussions" seem to be students and alumni of these three institutions trumpeting the superiority of their alma maters. There's nothing necessarily wrong with that - loyalty is a virtue - but sometimes more heat than light is shed by this sort of partisanship.

(quite large gap)

The others.

It appears that Adamson is moving up, and possibly UAP, and there are others such as Mapua IT, Philippine Christian U, Philippine Normal U,Technological UP, and some colleges. But this is largely a guess, as the evidence gets less and less as you move "down" the scale. UE and FEU seem to have medical faculties for which there is some regard - but the final UAAP university, NU, doesn't seem to rate very highly, academically speaking (pity that they're not doing too well in this year's basketball tournament)

I repeat, I am an outsider with no personal experience or knowledge of the Philippine Higher education system. So this may be very far of the mark. However as I said, it might be of interest what the scene looks like to a complete outsider.

I note that so much of the concentration seems to be on institutions in the Metro Manila area. Surely this over-concentration can't be a "good thing".

[Incidentally, the university at which I work regularly comes near the bottom of the annual "league table" of British universities]

Best wishes to all

Frank Hung

[storm_catcher]

Originally posted by frank
I am a complete "outsider". I am British, live in England, and have had all my education in English schools and universities. I work at present in a British University. I have never been to the Philippines.

I am interested in other cultures, especially East Asian ones (my parents were Chinese), and am very interested in Higher Education (universities etc.). The USA HE system is especially interesting, and the Philippine system seems to be in some ways quite similar to the American.

It might interest some of you engaged in this "discussion" how a complete outsider, who has studied some of the evidence on the internet, view things. As far as I can see, at present, the "ranking" goes something like this:

1. UP

(large gap)

2= DLSU, ADMU, UST. These three seem to rank very closely together, and it's probably largely subjective in which order you place them. Most of the posts in these "discussions" seem to be students and alumni of these three institutions trumpeting the superiority of their alma maters. There's nothing necessarily wrong with that - loyalty is a virtue - but sometimes more heat than light is shed by this sort of partisanship.

(quite large gap)

The others.

It appears that Adamson is moving up, and possibly UAP, and there are others such as Mapua IT, Philippine Christian U, Philippine Normal U,Technological UP, and some colleges. But this is largely a guess, as the evidence gets less and less as you move "down" the scale. UE and FEU seem to have medical faculties for which there is some regard - but the final UAAP university, NU, doesn't seem to rate very highly, academically speaking (pity that they're not doing too well in this year's basketball tournament)

I repeat, I am an outsider with no personal experience or knowledge of the Philippine Higher education system. So this may be very far of the mark. However as I said, it might be of interest what the scene looks like to a complete outsider.

I note that so much of the concentration seems to be on institutions in the Metro Manila area. Surely this over-concentration can't be a "good thing".

[Incidentally, the university at which I work regularly comes near the bottom of the annual "league table" of British universities]

Best wishes to all

Frank Hung

thanks for your views :lily: :angelwings: :lily:

:greenhat:

[alj]

Originally posted by frank
I am a complete "outsider". I am British, live in England, and have had all my education in English schools and universities. I work at present in a British University. I have never been to the Philippines.

I am interested in other cultures, especially East Asian ones (my parents were Chinese), and am very interested in Higher Education (universities etc.). The USA HE system is especially interesting, and the Philippine system seems to be in some ways quite similar to the American.

It might interest some of you engaged in this "discussion" how a complete outsider, who has studied some of the evidence on the internet, view things. As far as I can see, at present, the "ranking" goes something like this:

1. UP

(large gap)

2= DLSU, ADMU, UST. These three seem to rank very closely together, and it's probably largely subjective in which order you place them. Most of the posts in these "discussions" seem to be students and alumni of these three institutions trumpeting the superiority of their alma maters. There's nothing necessarily wrong with that - loyalty is a virtue - but sometimes more heat than light is shed by this sort of partisanship.

(quite large gap)

The others.

It appears that Adamson is moving up, and possibly UAP, and there are others such as Mapua IT, Philippine Christian U, Philippine Normal U,Technological UP, and some colleges. But this is largely a guess, as the evidence gets less and less as you move "down" the scale. UE and FEU seem to have medical faculties for which there is some regard - but the final UAAP university, NU, doesn't seem to rate very highly, academically speaking (pity that they're not doing too well in this year's basketball tournament)

I repeat, I am an outsider with no personal experience or knowledge of the Philippine Higher education system. So this may be very far of the mark. However as I said, it might be of interest what the scene looks like to a complete outsider.

I note that so much of the concentration seems to be on institutions in the Metro Manila area. Surely this over-concentration can't be a "good thing".

[Incidentally, the university at which I work regularly comes near the bottom of the annual "league table" of British universities]

Best wishes to all

Frank Hung
Hey, mate. You are almost accurate with your observations: UP being the top university in the Philippines, the Phil Educational System almost patterned from that of the US, and a bit others except that UST is not in the same breathe as that of ADMU and DLSU. Oh, no way. That is a big insult to the upscale Ateneans and La Sallites and a big ridiculous, too. It should have been the best considering the number of years it exist but with the kind of faculty and students it attracts, in NO way it could level the 2 elites schools.

In case you don’t know, only a UP diploma is acceptable or recognized by UK universities. There are two reasons for this. First, UP is considered as a world-class university and its graduates are at par with most graduates from other prestigious universities in the US or UK. Second, there is a two-year deficiency in college preparation for most Philippine schools.

I am going to graduate this March from MSU-Iligan. I am applying for graduate studies in Psychology at the University of Warwick in Coventry, England. I have visited the campus several times because of my interests in the place. It is one of the very few modern university campuses in the whole UK. My younger brother is reading Biochemical Engineering at University College, London. He is on his 3rd-year now and doing well academically. He got 2 As in his “A” Level and a B in one subject. He wanted to study Physical Therapy is UP Manila but was turned down due to stiff competition for a place.

Thank you for visiting this site.:)

Cheers!

[Braveheart]

Originally posted by alj

Hey, mate. You are almost accurate with your observations: UP being the top university in the Philippines, the Phil Educational System almost patterned from that of the US, and a bit others except that UST is not in the same breathe as that of ADMU and DLSU. Oh, no way. That is a big insult to the upscale Ateneans and La Sallites and a big ridiculous, too. It should have been the best considering the number of years it exist but with the kind of faculty and students it attracts, in NO way it could level the 2 elites schools.



yeah, UST is way above them. don't insult the royal and pontifical university of santo tomas, please. thank you. :)

[Stampede]

Originally posted by alj

In case you don’t know, only a UP diploma is acceptable or recognized by UK universities. There are two reasons for this. First, UP is considered as a world-class university and its graduates are at par with most graduates from other prestigious universities in the US or UK. Second, there is a two-year deficiency in college preparation for most Philippine schools.

I am going to graduate this March from MSU-Iligan. I am applying for graduate studies in Psychology at the University of Warwick in Coventry, England. I have visited the campus several times because of my interests in the place. It is one of the very few modern university campuses in the whole UK. My younger brother is reading Biochemical Engineering at University College, London. He is on his 3rd-year now and doing well academically. He got 2 As in his “A” Level and a B in one subject. He wanted to study Physical Therapy is UP Manila but was turned down due to stiff competition for a place.

Thank you for visiting this site.:)

Cheers!

akala ko ba UP diploma lang ang acceptable and recognized sa UK. why even bother applying at warwick if they only recognize UP grads? what am i missing here?

[Braveheart]

ang labo nga niyang kausap ni alj eh. taga-msu-iligan siya tapos mag-aapply sa isang UK university tapos UP diploma lang ang acceptable or recognized by UK universities??? ano 'yan niloloko niya sarili niya? ang labo na talaga ha! wala ng kredibilidad na talaga si alj ha! kaya sabi ko nga eh sabunutan niya na lang sarili niya eh. tsk, tsk, tsk. :silly:

[alj]

Originally posted by Braveheart
ang labo nga niyang kausap ni alj eh. taga-msu-iligan siya tapos mag-aapply sa isang UK university tapos UP diploma lang ang acceptable or recognized by UK universities??? ano 'yan niloloko niya sarili niya? ang labo na talaga ha! wala ng kredibilidad na talaga si alj ha! kaya sabi ko nga eh sabunutan niya na lang sarili niya eh. tsk, tsk, tsk. :silly:
Oh, you don’t get it. That’s the catch!;) If you're smart, you comprehend. Oki?:p

[ashley_05]

Originally posted by frank
I am a complete "outsider". I am British, live in England, and have had all my education in English schools and universities. I work at present in a British University. I have never been to the Philippines.
....

I believe Mr. Frank here is absolutely right.

No subjective POV, mind you. :)

I am in the University of the Philippines, but I totally agree with his observations. :D

I chose UP not because it had the best facilities. It doesn't, trust me. If I wanted that, I would have chosen ADMU or DLSU. It isn't near my house. If I wanted that, I would have chosen UA&P. It isn't my parents' alma mater... It isn't an "ancient" famous university. If I wanted that, I would've chosen the oldest there is... UST.

I chose UP because ever since I was young I knew it just had to be the school I would go to. Nowhere else.

It provides the best education. UP professors are the most impressive individuals in the world.

(Imagine being offered by La Salle ten times your present salary and rejecting it just because you believe teaching is not a money-making business, it's a vocation.)

And, for me, those two facts about UP are enough to rank it as the best. :cool:

As for the others... they aren't that bad. Schools like Mapua, PLM, etc. are just relatively new schools. They don't have "heroes" for alumni like Ateneo. But, they are great schools. They cater to specific courses. If I was interested in engineering, I would've gone to Mapua... (pero I'm dumb with math and that's a different story...) ;)

For the people who still won't allow themselves to be subdued, stop. Imagine you're an outsider of your school then judge you school as you perceive it. Think. Think hard.

[ZaMaZiPaZaM]

Originally posted by alj

Hey, mate. You are almost accurate with your observations: UP being the top university in the Philippines, the Phil Educational System almost patterned from that of the US, and a bit others except that UST is not in the same breathe as that of ADMU and DLSU. Oh, no way. That is a big insult to the upscale Ateneans and La Sallites and a big ridiculous, too. It should have been the best considering the number of years it exist but with the kind of faculty and students it attracts, in NO way it could level the 2 elites schools.

In case you don’t know, only a UP diploma is acceptable or recognized by UK universities. There are two reasons for this. First, UP is considered as a world-class university and its graduates are at par with most graduates from other prestigious universities in the US or UK. Second, there is a two-year deficiency in college preparation for most Philippine schools.

I am going to graduate this March from MSU-Iligan. I am applying for graduate studies in Psychology at the University of Warwick in Coventry, England. I have visited the campus several times because of my interests in the place. It is one of the very few modern university campuses in the whole UK. My younger brother is reading Biochemical Engineering at University College, London. He is on his 3rd-year now and doing well academically. He got 2 As in his “A” Level and a B in one subject. He wanted to study Physical Therapy is UP Manila but was turned down due to stiff competition for a place.

Thank you for visiting this site.:)

Cheers!

ust??? way above admu and dlsu... lolz, comm'on don't make me laugh!!!

we all know and the rest of the country knows that the De La Salle University [Manila] and the Ateneo de Manila University [Katipunan] are competing for the number 2 rank in the country when it comes to academic excellence!!!

why is it that ust always gets in the way... papansin??? pag-may topic na involve ang dlsu at admu at medyo nagkakainitan na lagi na lang sumisingit ang ust... hmmm... kulang sa pansin!!!

please lang ust you are way out of league in these two BIG schools... ayusin nyo muna ang drainage system nyo kasi pinasukan na rin ata ng baha pati utak nyo!

:greenhat:

[cutegirl2002]

Originally posted by ZaMaZiPaZaM


ust??? way above admu and dlsu... lolz, comm'on don't make me laugh!!!

we all know and the rest of the country knows that the De La Salle University [Manila] and the Ateneo de Manila University [Katipunan] are competing for the number 2 rank in the country when it comes to academic excellence!!!

why is it that ust always gets in the way... papansin??? pag-may topic na involve ang dlsu at admu at medyo nagkakainitan na lagi na lang sumisingit ang ust... hmmm... kulang sa pansin!!!

please lang ust you are way out of league in this two BIG schools... ayusin nyo muna ang drainage system nyo kasi pinasukan na rin ata ng baha pati utak nyo!

:greenhat:

she's an anti-UST! ask the thomasians like altweg and braveheart! alam na nila yan.

[ZaMaZiPaZaM]

i don't have any personal grudge against ust, but the they are acting... as if they are SUPERIOR, hell no! they know it, and they should live with it!

[rsgubank]

I think you have some facts twisted. A very dear relative of mine who works at the HRD of BPI says in this order:
1 – UP
2 – Ateneo
3 – De La Salle

***This is by far the industry practice. So no comment on this one.

And for the your information this is how other credible institution ranks our local universities:

British Council:

1 – UP
2 – Ateneo
3 – UST

***This one's based on the number of literary folios that have come out from the three mentioned universities. La Salle though is not far behind considering its strength is found in its engineering, sciences and business courses.

Acceptable to Australian Universities:

UP/Ateneo/De La Salle/UA&P (grad studies only)

***This is based on the number of UP/Ateneo/La Salle graduates who have come to study in Australia for graduate studies.


US Ranking:

1 – UP
2 – UST

***This is based on the number of medicine graduates of both UP and UST who have succesfully passed the various State Board Exams in the USA.

***Note: Among law schools here, only UP and Ateneo graduates enjoy an advantage over other philippine law school products in the USA.


Conclusion: Each school has its own comparative advantage which cannot just be simply denied. Comparing apples with oranges is a futile exercise. At the end of the day, it's not going to be your school, but rather, it's going to be a question of well you received and processed all the learnings your school gave you.

[storm_catcher]

wala lang...

animo! dlsu...

La Salle RAH!

[cathy_so]

:)

[articus]

whyte quote:


Mas mataas pa ang standard sang CPU kay sa UPV!
Dalahig lang kamo sa UP "syndrome"!

i took your exams at parang nabobo pa ako... pang elementary lang talaga, if not pang kinder.

standard? ok ka lang? dont even think about it, nakakatakot... we made a name for ourselves not because under the UP system kami, makikita mo naman sa mga students kahit sinong kunin mo sa amin (UPV students) kayang patumbahin kayo...
in terms of brains of course,

wag kanang magmayabang pa dahil wala ka namang maipagmayabang:D

by the way we dont compare ourselves to you, mababa na masyado kayo, no offense "pre" get to know UPV first baka madedepressed ka lang...;)

[alj]

Originally posted by articus


i took your exams at parang nabobo pa ako... pang elementary lang talaga, if not pang kinder.

standard? ok ka lang? dont even think about it, nakakatakot... we made a name for ourselves not because under the UP system kami, makikita mo naman sa mga students kahit sinong kunin mo sa amin (UPV students) kayang patumbahin kayo...
in terms of brains of course,

wag kanang magmayabang pa dahil wala ka namang maipagmayabang:D

by the way we dont compare ourselves to you, mababa na masyado kayo, no offense "pre" get to know UPV first baka madedepressed ka lang...;) As far as I know, UPV is better than UST pa nga, eh. This is not meant not meant to bash UST, ha. I can just simply observe that UPV students are real smart peeps while many in UST are not smart students at all.

[neogattaca]

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whyte quote:


Mas mataas pa ang standard sang CPU kay sa UPV!
Dalahig lang kamo sa UP "syndrome".
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Like, in your dreams!!!
What standards??? Do CPU have any?
As far as I know, your entrance exam sucks... very pathetic perhaps.
And because of so many students, the quality of education is affected.
Imagine, a GWA of 2.0 can get you into the Dean's List.
No sweat!!!

alj quote:
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As far as I know, UPV is better than UST pa nga, eh. This is not meant not meant to bash UST, ha. I can just simply observe that UPV students are real smart peeps while many in UST are not smart students at all.
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kudos to you alj!!!:)
MSU-Iligan students are really much wiser than CPU students.
Whyte, lampusan ta ka chair.... STUPID
Whyte, ulo mo puro air.... STUPID

[rastaman]

Peyups, man.

[xxikickers]

:sunnysmile:

1. UP
2. Ateneo de Manila
3. La Salle
4. UST
yun lang pwera lang ang UA&P pura kaartihan lang naman nandon eh ekis ang campus nila isang building lang!

[CRUELA]

I study in UP Diliman. But my other friend studies in La Salle (and her lover in UST) my OTHER friend studies in Ateneo.

Oo nagaaway kami pag UAAP.
... pero sa totoo lang, every time na nasa loob ako ng main lib ng UP, basang basa ang kilikili sa init, naiinggit ako sa Ateneo na aircon ang lib.

Pag kumakain ako sa Casaa (mag-isa na nga) *** pang maupuan, naiinggit ako sa La Sale na may Aristocrat sa loob ng campus. Pag hinihingal ako sa paglalakad palipat-lipat ng building o namamanhid ang mga talampakan sa kakahintay ng ikot jeep, naiinggit ako sa mga taga-UST.

Pag nag-aaral ako sa ilalim ng puno sa Sunken garden o di kaya sa AS lobby, sumasakit ang braso ko sa kaka-bugaw ng lamok (at langaw), naiinggit ako sa mga paaralang maganda ang facilities.

Pero pag nakaupo na ko sa classroom na sira ang kaisa-isang electric fan at kumikindat ang ilaw at pumasok na ang prof ko na basa sa ulan, nalulunod sa dami ng papeles na bitbit, at nirarayuma na (Hi Sir Rene Villanueva) (na by the way 5th time National Book Awardee na) pero na-check ng mabuti ang mga test papers, handa sa lecture niya at siksik liglig ang kaalaman sa pinagsasasabi, nagpapasalamat ako. Pinagpala pa rin ako.

I make the most of what my school has to offer. I heard too many stories already of unemployed (or underpayed) university graduates not to learn my lesson.

I love UP (matatapang, matatalino, waaaaaa-langa takot...)... but i hate the facilities.

Ikanga ng kaibigan kong taga-La Salle nang makita ang isang kwarto sa UP, " Classroom ba yan?!".

Ewan kung sinong mas magaling. Ewan kung sinong the best.

Do you get high grades? Are you a college scholar? Dean's list? Do you make your parents proud?

O kung sa bulok na sistema ng bansa naman ang mga tanong ay: Anong apelyido mo? Sinong kilala mo?

Am i making sense EVEN?

Sakit na ng kamay ko.

TOodles!

[katjared]

UP, ADMU, DLSU, UST! No more, no less! Hehehe...:p

[ahrjhey]

:cool: PEYUPS PA RIN!!!!!!!!! D BEST

[ZaMaZiPaZaM]

Originally posted by katjared
UP, ADMU, DLSU, UST! No more, no less! Hehehe...:p

*okay*

[shamhoy]

I study in UP Diliman. But my other friend studies in La Salle (and her lover in UST) my OTHER friend studies in Ateneo.

Oo nagaaway kami pag UAAP.
... pero sa totoo lang, every time na nasa loob ako ng main lib ng UP, basang basa ang kilikili sa init, naiinggit ako sa Ateneo na aircon ang lib.

Pag kumakain ako sa Casaa (mag-isa na nga) *** pang maupuan, naiinggit ako sa La Sale na may Aristocrat sa loob ng campus. Pag hinihingal ako sa paglalakad palipat-lipat ng building o namamanhid ang mga talampakan sa kakahintay ng ikot jeep, naiinggit ako sa mga taga-UST.

Pag nag-aaral ako sa ilalim ng puno sa Sunken garden o di kaya sa AS lobby, sumasakit ang braso ko sa kaka- bugaw ng lamok (at langaw), naiinggit ako sa mga paaralang maganda ang facilities.

Pero pag nakaupo na ko sa classroom na sira ang kaisa-isang electric fan at kumikindat ang ilaw at pumasok na ang prof ko na basa sa ulan, nalulunod sa dami ng papeles na bitbit, at nirarayuma na (Hi Sir Rene Villanueva) (na by the way 5th time National Book Awardee na) pero na-check ng mabuti ang mga test papers, handa sa lecture niya at siksik liglig ang kaalaman sa pinagsasasabi, nagpapasalamat ako. Pinagpala pa rin ako.

I make the most of what my school has to offer. I heard too many stories already of unemployed (or underpayed) university graduates not to learn my lesson.

I love UP (matatapang, matatalino, waaaaaa-langa takot...)... but i hate the facilities.

Ikanga ng kaibigan kong taga-La Salle nang makita ang isang kwarto sa UP, " Classroom ba yan?!".

Ewan kung sinong mas magaling. Ewan kung sinong the best.

Do you get high grades? Are you a college scholar? Dean's list? Do you make your parents proud?

O kung sa bulok na sistema ng bansa naman ang mga tanong ay: Anong apelyido mo? Sinong kilala mo?

Am i making sense EVEN?

Sakit na ng kamay ko.

TOodles!

:handsdown:..sniff..sniff man, that's the best piece i've read....

yeah, doesn't matter where you came from...it's how you make full use of what you've learned from the academe..andami kase dito akala nila eh dadalhin sila pangalan ng eskuwelahan nila...mga bobito naman

[MaLeiBoG]

1. UP
2. DLSU
3. never mind, meron bang 3 below... ???

*okay* PEACE

[joinus4free]

I pass UP, DLSU and UST entrance exams, but I choose DLSU because it is just 6 kilometers from our place. Sa tingin hindi magandang basis yung dami ng students na nag-aaply sa school to measure the schools performance. Meron naman tayong iba't ibang reason sa pagpili ng schools. Sa totoo lang most of my schoolmates in highschool ay nasa PLM. I know most of them also pass UST entrance exam or maybe even UPCAT, but they choose PLM because of financial reason.

Kaya pala ako hindi kumuha ng ACET kasi madaming mayayabang sa Ateneo and matapobre mga kilala kong Atenean. At least sa DLSU, ok ang COE.

[ashley_05]

Originally posted by CRUELA
I study in UP Diliman. But my other friend studies in La Salle (and her lover in UST) my OTHER friend studies in Ateneo.

Oo nagaaway kami pag UAAP.
... pero sa totoo lang, every time na nasa loob ako ng main lib ng UP, basang basa ang kilikili sa init, naiinggit ako sa Ateneo na aircon ang lib.

Owel, may point ka talaga dian. Pero, owel, cool pa rin ang mainlib ng dili...

Pag kumakain ako sa Casaa (mag-isa na nga) *** pang maupuan, naiinggit ako sa La Sale na may Aristocrat sa loob ng campus. Pag hinihingal ako sa paglalakad palipat-lipat ng building o namamanhid ang mga talampakan sa kakahintay ng ikot jeep, naiinggit ako sa mga taga-UST.

No... uber COOL sa akin ang experience na ito. Saan pa bang schl ka makakasakay ng jeep para lang pumunta sa next class mo? Tsaka, "thrilling" naman in a sense ang caf experience... basta you just have to be "skilled" enuf.

Pag nag-aaral ako sa ilalim ng puno sa Sunken garden o di kaya sa AS lobby, sumasakit ang braso ko sa kaka-bugaw ng lamok (at langaw), naiinggit ako sa mga paaralang maganda ang facilities.

Uhm, try finding another place... Lib kaya?

Pero pag nakaupo na ko sa classroom na sira ang kaisa-isang electric fan at kumikindat ang ilaw at pumasok na ang prof ko na basa sa ulan, nalulunod sa dami ng papeles na bitbit, at nirarayuma na (Hi Sir Rene Villanueva) (na by the way 5th time National Book Awardee na) pero na-check ng mabuti ang mga test papers, handa sa lecture niya at siksik liglig ang kaalaman sa pinagsasasabi, nagpapasalamat ako. Pinagpala pa rin ako.

True... true! TRUE!

I make the most of what my school has to offer. I heard too many stories already of unemployed (or underpayed) university graduates not to learn my lesson.

Oh well... true pa rin.

I love UP (matatapang, matatalino, waaaaaa-langa takot...)... but i hate the facilities.

Don't be too harsh. Although we don't have the best, doesn't it make you wonder kung bakit tayo pa rin ang BEST?

Ikanga ng kaibigan kong taga-La Salle nang makita ang isang kwarto sa UP, " Classroom ba yan?!".

Hehe... sana marinig niya ang sinasabi ng Histo prof ko about La Salle... *super evil*

Ewan kung sinong mas magaling. Ewan kung sinong the best.

Siyempre tayo... sino pa ba?

Do you get high grades? Are you a college scholar? Dean's list? Do you make your parents proud?

Uhm... next!

O kung sa bulok na sistema ng bansa naman ang mga tanong ay: Anong apelyido mo? Sinong kilala mo?
Am i making sense EVEN?
Sakit na ng kamay ko.
TOodles!

Hehe... I have enough principles not to become that. After all, I got through my 18 years of existence without using my connections... I believe I have the guts and the talent... problem nga lang ay wala ako talagang specific na goal.

Oh well, basta, mapa-UP ka man o hindi... as long as you have the "attitude", you will certainly become what you want to be... :D

[Altwegg]

Originally posted by alj
As far as I know, UPV is better than UST pa nga, eh. This is not meant not meant to bash UST, ha. I can just simply observe that UPV students are real smart peeps while many in UST are not smart students at all.
So what else is new with this creature's posts?

Anyways, I can just simply observe that UST students are real smart peeps while many in MSU are not smart students at all.

[ashley_05]

Sa medicine, UP is simply the best!

Get this...

> UP is FIRST in the 2002 med boards! And, almost lahat ng nasa Top 10 ay UP grads... I mean, more than 5 of the Top 10 are UP peeps...
> In fact, 2 lang ang hindi pumasa sa boards... so ang rate ng passing sa UP ay 98.plus%... compare mo sa 50.plus% na passing rate sa buong nasyon.

O-ha! Lupit talaga!

Go COLLEGE OF MEDICINE!

Go UP-MANILA!

GO UNIBERSIDAD NG PILIPINAS!

;) :D :cool:

[ashley_05]

Originally posted by Altwegg

So what else is new with this creature's posts?

Anyways, I can just simply observe that UST students are real smart peeps while many in MSU are not smart students at all.

Define smart in the most objective way possible (if you can).

Peace na kayo! Dali na! :D

[ZaMaZiPaZaM]

Originally posted by ashley_05


Define smart in the most objective way possible (if you can).

Peace na kayo! Dali na! :D

ang [t]a[r]a[y]!!!

[kalimer]

UNIBERSIDAD NG PILIPINAS!

[qtkeri]

Observations:

Ateneo de Manila

1. Good at philosophy courses and liberal arts, probably the best in the country.
2. It is NOT PURELY a liberal arts school, it is also a technical-business school.
3. Accepts ACET, DLSU, UPCAT and UST entrance exams passers.
4. Around 60 to 70 percent of the students are honor students from all over the country and the rest of the world.
5. Not all are mayabang and conyo – Ateneo is a diverse community.
6. ACET is probably the hardest entrance exam a high school student can take.
7. Level 3 – PAASCU Accreditation : January, 2003 aiming for Level 4.
8. Majority of the Faculty members have college, masteral and Ph.Ds earned from Ateneo and abroad.

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De La Salle

1. Good at accounting and engineering courses.
2. Accepts ACET, DLSU, UPCAT and UST passers. Not all flunkers of ACET and UPCAT go to DLSU, but many students who have flunked ACET and UPCAT REALLY GO TO DLSU, that’s why DLSU gets the impression of ACET and UPCAT flunkers.
3. Many are also honor students from high schools going to the many courses offered by DLSU.
4. Classrooms are air-conditioned which I think it should be considering the environment around DLSU.
5. Remedials are offered. Therefore, a chance to pass the course. Someone should confirm this. I heard many students from DLSU can attest to this.
6. DLSU Main and Benilde have some kind of an “invisible war”. Many La Sallians are irked by the fact that some Benilde students claim to be from the Main. La Salle is still La Salle, Benilde is still part of the system.
7. Majority of the Faculty members have college, masteral and Ph.Ds earned from DLSU, UP, UST and abroad. Ateneo, a really small percentage.
8. Not all are also mayabang. Many are gimikeros and party people.

[mrquick]

Originally posted by qtkeri
Observations:

Ateneo de Manila

4.Around 60 to 70 percent of the students are honor students from all over the country and the rest of the world.


most probably from jesuit schools. (Ateneo de Manila,Davao, Naga, Cagayan de Oro, Zamboanga, Sta. Maria School in Iloilo, Sacred Heart in Cebu, Xavier School in san Juan)

[ashley_05]

Originally posted by ZaMaZiPaZaM


ang [t]a[r]a[y]!!!

Define taray.

Hehe... peace! :D

[ashley_05]

Originally posted by qtkeri
6. ACET is probably the hardest entrance exam a high school student can take.

Mas nahirapan ako sa UPCAT. :D

7. Majority of the Faculty members have college, masteral and Ph.Ds earned from DLSU, UP, UST and abroad. Ateneo, a really small percentage.

Lots of DLSU profs were "taken" from UP. :)

[teenidolzupot]

Originally posted by qtkeri
Observations:

Ateneo de Manila


7. Level 3 � PAASCU Accreditation




:lol::rotfl::rotflmao::grinroll::glee::toofunny::bungi:

[cathy_so]

Originally posted by ashley_05
Lots of DLSU profs were "taken" from UP. :)

I think this is also the same in Ateneo's faculty line-ups.

Pero mas nahirapan ako sa ACET. I wonder though I was offered acceptance when I thought I did poorly in their exam.

Funny, but true. :)

[qtkeri]

Taken from the UAAP thread:

Maybe it's because UP does not excel that much in basketball, entering the final four and the finals, that's why , there's not so much hype or bragging on " We are better in academics". Although, some UP students really brag that we are better in academics, maybe not in PEX , but out there during academic competitions, your typical school-bashing chat, at homes, at school, etc.


Come to think of it, if UP became the "arch-rival" of La Salle and not Ateneo, I assume it would also brag about UP being "better in academics". Many would agree that this is the truth.

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Time and time, Ateneo , UP and De La Salle would always compare with each other which is the better school for many reasons:

1. The ACET, UPCAT and DLSUCET:

You say what's the big deal on these entrance exams? It is a big deal. Don't you think your employment exams is also a big deal?

ACET and UPCAT are known to be the toughest entrance exams, even in the provinces. Yes, some will say that DLSU is the hardest exam. Whatever.

Actually, there are passers of all the three exams (UPCAT, ACET and DLSUCET) and one student choose to study in DLSU, for example because of the course or location, family tradition, etc.

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FOR THE RECORD:

Not all flunkers of UPCAT and ACET go to DLSU, BUT MANY ( around 50 to as many as 3,000 STUDENTS REALLY go to DLSU or UST if they do not pass the ACET and UPCAT.


( The numerical figures depend on the number of high school applicants each year).


UP and DLSU should be a likely more "match" because it offers almost all the same courses. Ateneo has less courses to compare with UP or DLSU, or even UST.

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Which makes DLSU get the impression and the TRUTH that DLSU accepts ACET and UPCAT flunkers.


2. The students achievements and alumni

Ateneans and UP alumni , they say , always dominate Law and Government. How come ? Because it offers Law school.

Running into Politics does not mean you have a Law degree. Take for example, Pres. GMA. She does not have a Law degree, just MA Econ. at ADMU and Phd. from US. There is also a handful of politicians from DLSU like Ralph Recto, etc. BUT, Ateneans and UPians are more in numbers present in this field.


Business:

UP and Ateneo again, represent a good number of prominent alumni in the business. So, is DLSU. DLSU alumni just so happened that it has produced more "PROMINENT FAMILIES ...BORN with a SILVER SPOON type of alumni" compared to UP and Ateneo's "BECOMING PRESIDENTS OF CORPORATIONS" through hard work and commitment.

and many more reasons....

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Each school has its own share of arrogant people bragging " We are better in academics".


But, how come only Ateneo is in the limelight and gets the most impression of being mayabang and many outsiders are maybe insecured and envious about this?


How come many also don't believe that DLSU is also number one in academics even with all those rankings, surveys, accreditations, etc.?


How come UP does not brag that so much and not really "sensationalize" the idea? How come UP is also a threat to DLSU when it comes to academics?


Is bragging different from the truth? I guess so.


:cool:

[monty]

You guys should not fight over which one is the best..but rather uplift the Philippine education system because we're about 3 years off/behind with the American counterparts.

In the US, Kindergarten is compulsary and is included in the elementary school program. Elementary is Kinder to 5th grade. Then you have the 6th, 7th and 8th grades and they're the middle schoolers or Junior High. 9th-12th is the High school counterpart of the Philippines 1st-4th year HS.

Mas na-eenhance ang pag-aaral with an extra 2-3 years of education. Kahit gano ka kagaling or kayaman or graduate ng UP, DLSU, Ateneo or UST hindi pa rin considered here in the states as a bachelor's degree but rather an associate which is like 2 years of college.

[qtkeri]

Originally posted by monty

You guys should not fight over which one is the best..but rather uplift the Philippine education system because we're about 3 years off/behind with the American counterparts.

In the US, Kindergarten is compulsary and is included in the elementary school program. Elementary is Kinder to 5th grade. Then you have the 6th, 7th and 8th grades and they're the middle schoolers or Junior High. 9th-12th is the High school counterpart of the Philippines 1st-4th year HS.

Mas na-eenhance ang pag-aaral with an extra 2-3 years of education. Kahit gano ka kagaling or kayaman or graduate ng UP, DLSU, Ateneo or UST hindi pa rin considered here in the states as a bachelor's degree but rather an associate which is like 2 years o
f college.


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3 years lang? I thought it was more. :) Comparing Phils. with USA, goodness. Maybe America should donate money and resources to the Phils. educational system to help the country be competent.

As a matter of fact, kahit average student at hindi ka ganon kayaman or kagaling din sa America, you would still have a decent job because of a strong economy. What more if you are a graduate of ivy league schools like Harvard, Yale, Stanford, etc.


Sige nga Monty, sana bigyan mo kami ng pang - tuition and the privilege to go to US to study, live and work there.


Wala na rin kami makain kasi ginastos na sa pag-aaral. Kawawa naman kami dito noh?


;)

[cathy_so]

Originally posted by qtkeri
Take for example, Pres. GMA. She does not have a Law degree, just MA Econ. at ADMU and Phd. from US. There is also a handful of politicians from DLSU like Ralph Recto, etc. BUT, Ateneans and UPians are more in numbers present in this field.
:cool:
GMA has a PhD. in Economics from UP-Diliman and not from a US university. She has, however, studied MBA at Georgetown University, Washington D.C., USA where she and former US president Bill Clinton were classmates.

For the record:
There are more UPians entered in Politics than graduates of any university in the country. Ateneans in Politics is not even one third of the vast number of politicians who are from UP.

[cathy_so]

Originally posted by qtkeri
What more if you are a graduate of ivy league schools like Harvard, Yale, Stanford, etc.


Sige nga Monty, sana bigyan mo kami ng pang - tuition and the privilege to go to US to study, live and work there.
;)
Stanford is not an ivy-league member university. There are only 8 ivy-league member universities and they all can be found in the east coast of the USA.

The 8 ivy-league members are:

1. Harvard, Cambridge, Massachusetts
2. Yale, New Haven, Connecticut
3. Princeton, Princeton, New Jersey
4. Columbia, New York, New York
5. Cornell, Ithaca, New York
6. U. Penn, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
7. Brown U., Providence, Rhode Island
8. Dartmouth College, Hanover, New Hampshire

Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, Maryland was invited to join in the league but turned it down because the university would rather concentrate in academics. Johns Hopkins didn’t realize that joining in the league would further enhance their reputation as among the finest universities in America.

That invitation was made more one hundred years ago.

Trivia:
Many richer countries in Asia are financing their bright citizens to study in either USA or UK fro college. Among these countries are: Malaysia, Hong Kong, Thailand, Indonesia, Singapore, Taiwan, South Korea and China. But, their best and finest students shall have to stay home to continue their college in their premiere university. Most countries in the Middle East are doing this. This was the proposal to our government before UP was established.

[freakster2k1]

i am just curious, what are the 'criteria' for the term best?

[qtkeri]

Originally posted by cathy_so

GMA has a PhD. in Economics from UP-Diliman and not from a US university. She has, however, studied MBA at Georgetown University, Washington D.C., USA where she and former US president Bill Clinton were classmates.

For the record:
There are more UPians entered in Politics than graduates of any university in the country. Ateneans in Politics is not even one third of the vast number of politicians who are from UP.



Right! Georgetown University is a Jesuit US school pala, for the information of others.

[monty]

Originally posted by qtkeri

3 years lang? I thought it was more. :) Comparing Phils. with USA, goodness. Maybe America should donate money and resources to the Phils. educational system to help the country be competent.

As a matter of fact, kahit average student at hindi ka ganon kayaman or kagaling din sa America, you would still have a decent job because of a strong economy. What more if you are a graduate of ivy league schools like Harvard, Yale, Stanford, etc.

Sige nga Monty, sana bigyan mo kami ng pang - tuition and the privilege to go to US to study, live and work there.

Wala na rin kami makain kasi ginastos na sa pag-aaral. Kawawa naman kami dito noh?
;)

Mahal din ang tuition fee dito. The average per credit/hour in a university is $250.00 per credit. (Sa Philippines you call it per unit ). So isang subject which is normally 3 credits (or 3 units) is around $750.00 na. What more kung 15-18 credits (units) ang kukunin mo? Kaya majority of students here (about 65%) are working part time because their parents can not afford the high tuition fees. More so, nag-aaply pa sila for scholarships and financial loans.

Sa mga community colleges mas mababa, about $100-125.00 per credit ang tuition.

Mga Students nga dyan sa Philippines pa-cellphone cellphone na lang and parents pa ang nagbabayad ng tuition. So mas ok pa dyan than here in North America.

[kublais]

Originally posted by monty
You guys should not fight over which one is the best..but rather uplift the Philippine education system because we're about 3 years off/behind with the American counterparts.

I agree. I think the delay is even more so when it comes to the sciences and engineering.


In the US, Kindergarten is compulsary and is included in the elementary school program. Elementary is Kinder to 5th grade. Then you have the 6th, 7th and 8th grades and they're the middle schoolers or Junior High. 9th-12th is the High school counterpart of the Philippines 1st-4th year HS.

Ang equivalent ng grades 7, 8, 9 & 10 sa US ay yung 1st, 2nd, 3rd & 4th year High School dito sa Philippines. Yung 11th & 12th naman ay yung first 2 years ng college dito sa Philippines. Kaya kung pansin nyo sa college curriculum nyo, yung 1st and 2nd year subjects (around 72 Academic Units) ay mga general education subjects (GE) pa. Pag 3rd year college na dito sa Philippines, dito na mag umpisa ang MAJOR subjects. Kung regular AB or BS courses, more or less 2 years lang ang duration nito with more or less 72 Academic Units and 3 years pag enginering with more or less 108 units. Included na dyan ang internship or practicum kung required ng course.

In the US, you generally have to earn around 120 Academic Units to graduate a baccalaureate degree in any BS or AB courses, and around 150 Units for engineering courses. Almost all these courses are Major Subjects or subjects devoted to your field of specialization. Most bachelor's degree courses in the US can be studied in three years for any AB or BS courses or four years for any engineering courses thereby cutting 1 year in finishing a course.

So, kung titignan mo ng mabuti, parang parihas lang ang number of hours required for students to attend classes when counting from kinder class to college at halos same age lang sila pag mag graduate sa college.

Tignan mo ‘to:

USA: Age: PHilippines:Public Private:
Kinder 5 yrs. old K1 (kinder) K1
1- 6 yrs. old K2 K2
2- 7 yrs. old 1 Grade 1
3- 8 yrs. old 2 2
4- 9 yrs. old 3 3
5- 10 yrs. old 4 4
Middle Schoolers:
6, - 11yrs. old 5 5
7, - 12yrs. old 6 6
8, - 13yrs. old 1st - High School 7
9, - 14yrs. old 2nd 1st-HS
Senior High:
10, - 15 yrs. old 3rd 2nd
11 – 16 yrs. old 4th 3rd
12 – 17 yrs. Old 1st year - college 4th
University:
1 18yrs. old 2nd 1-College
2 19yrs. old 3rd 2
3 20yrs. old 4th 3
4 21yrs. olc 4th

Sa States, usong-uso yung "i'll take a year out coz i need to save to payoff my tuition next school year." hinba? kaya matanda na silang mag graduate sa college.



Mas na-eenhance ang pag-aaral with an extra 2-3 years of education. Kahit gano ka kagaling or kayaman or graduate ng UP, DLSU, Ateneo or UST hindi pa rin considered here in the states as a bachelor's degree but rather an associate which is like 2 years of college.

Here, I totally disagree with you. Never naging Associate Degree ang UP Diploma sa buong America or even in Europe. Both diploma and academic transcripts from the University of the Philippines (all campuses) are internationally validated by the Apostille from the Hague. In accordance with the resolutions reached at The Hague Convention held on October 5th, 1961, diplomas, certificates and transcripts issued by UP shall be officially legalized in all countries of the world. Ganyan po ka credible ang UP Diploma!!!

Ang pagkaalam ko, UP degree lang from the Philippines ang widely accepted in other countries. Hindi mo ba alam na with your UP Baccalaureate degree (any field) pwede ka ng mag Masteral sa Harvard, Yale, Princeton or Stanford. But, with your Ateneo, La Salle or UST diploma, you need to have a Masteral here in the Philippines bago ka pweding mag Masteral dyan sa America. Tanong mo yan sa university mo.

[brighton]

Originally posted by kublais
Ang pagkaalam ko, UP degree lang from the Philippines ang widely accepted in other countries. Hindi mo ba alam na with your UP Baccalaureate degree (any field) pwede ka ng mag Masteral sa Harvard, Yale, Princeton or Stanford. But, with your Ateneo, La Salle or UST diploma, you need to have a Masteral here in the Philippines bago ka pweding mag Masteral dyan sa America. Tanong mo yan sa university mo.
Ha?! Widely accepted din ang La Salle degree, ha! Kaya nga when I was choosing where to go between La Salle and Ateneo, hindi ako nagdalawang isip na mag La Salle. Of course, I would have wanted to study in UP sana kung natangap ako. E, kaso, LB!:rolleyes: Layo!

My dad has an MBA from Wharton of UPenn. He was an Accounting (LIACOM) graduate of La Salle and he told me he wasn't required by Wharton to take up a Master's to be admitted to their B-school. He had more than 5 years work experience though in managerial level before he was accepted. So, maybe there is also exemption to this rule. Pag Master's in Business Administration, no need to study for a Master's first in a local university.

Well, I'm just sharing.

[brighton]

Back to the topic:

UP is still the number 1 university in the country by a distance. There maybe a close rival in a specific field of study such as in Accounting: UP & DLSU, Com.Sci: UP & DLSU, Law: UP & ADMU, Med: UP & UST, etc... but when it comes to a whole range of discipline, nobody comes close. And, those who say otherwise are lying!

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DLSU is the number 2 university in the country when it comes to the number of high quality courses offered. DLSU as a university is a very stable one. Cash rich that anything it wants it gets. This university doesn't need funds from the government to stand or stand out. DLSU's facilities are state-of-the-art and are comparable to UP's or even to some of the bests in the Asian Region. DLSU's students were highly selected and generally inferior to UP's by a hair strand, which for me is a just minor issue.

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ADMU is the number 3 university in the country. It has well-equipped facilities for its students and amongst their faculty members are "somebody" in their field. On the other side of the coin, Ateneo concentrates in few courses and are mostly in the liberal Arts and the Social Sciences. I am not discounting the fact that their (Pure) Science Departments are Centers of Excellence and are really very strong.

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Observation:

Like DLSU, ADMU students were highly selected. It has in fact a reputation of having the hardest entrance test which I still find it “questionable” because the school still accepts the same sets of applicants who were also admitted at UP and DLSU.

Generally, the first choice university is always UP. This is reflected in the huge numbers of applicants applying to that university every year since its foundation almost a hundred years ago. Sabi nga ng mga tito at tita ko: “if UP was already founded in Rizal’s time, he would have studied there, no doubt!” Now, those who were not accepted in UP, the chunk were spread between La Salle and Ateneo. Few go to UA&P, another elite university and UST, a powerhouse in allied medical professions. There are others who later decided to remain in their provinces due to several reasons. Most prevalent of which are: longing ness and financial.

There are also those who passed the UPCAT but insist not to go to UP. Reasons are varied and mostly were sensible. Example is loyalty to school. I know some people who went to Ateneo and have become very blue! Too bad, they become myopic at times. But, that’s their enjoyment and source of pride. For many of them, having gone to Ateneo is the best part of their lives. The same here in La Salle… you’ll meet very bright students who can equal those from UP but insisted to be here because of “loyalty”. There are also those who think a specific course offered in a rival university is relatively at par with UP. Example, Com. Sci of La Salle and of UP’s or Management Engineering of Ateneo and UP’s IE, etc…

I can’t say much about UST. They are not in our league. As for the UA&P, it is still a baby in the academia. We still have to wait for an era to join the “elite league”.

[freakster2k1]

brighton a very good analysis. But again the question i ask is what is the criteria for the word 'best'?

[karl_edvard]

at long last, we're makin some sense here. nice!!

[ashley_05]

Originally posted by freakster2k1
i am just curious, what are the 'criteria' for the term best?
Accdg to my Histo prof, the survey of the best universities in Asia was based on the facilities of the school, the quality of education and other things.
University of the Phils ranked highest among Phil schools, but it would have ranked higher had it not been dragged down by a low score in the school facilities category.

In my opinion, isn't that a plus? UP does not have very hi-tech facilities but still manage to be the very best.

GO U-P! :D

[ashley_05]

According to (again) the same Histo I prof, the University of the Philippines was established in 1908 during our stint as an American colony.
The Americans realized that the schools offering tertiary education were all sectarian (ADMU, UST, DLSU). They needed to start a school similar to their universities... non-sectarian but equally competitive.
PEYUPS was their answer. UP-Manila was born. :cool: :D

[freakster2k1]

1. I understand how you see it as a plus, but it isn’t. However, sometimes surveys tend to misled us. I am not saying that UP is not a good school, frankly it may also be the one I would have applied if I choose to study in the Philippines. I wonder what was the breakdown in the point system? I mean, did the surveyor gave facilities equal importance with ‘# of distinguished professors’.

2. However, you were the first of the many that actually tried to answer it by giving a qualitative explanation why UP is the best. And based on the fact you presented it is the best.

3. But, what does this mean? What does this entail? We already, at least you and I established it is the best school; now we need to take it a step further. What does this mean? and please don’t tell me, that means UP students are genius. Try to be a bit more constructive.

[ashley_05]

Originally posted by freakster2k1
1. I understand how you see it as a plus, but it isn’t. However, sometimes surveys tend to misled us. I am not saying that UP is not a good school, frankly it may also be the one I would have applied if I choose to study in the Philippines. I wonder what was the breakdown in the point system? I mean, did the surveyor gave facilities equal importance with ‘# of distinguished professors’.

2. However, you were the first of the many that actually tried to answer it by giving a qualitative explanation why UP is the best. And based on the fact you presented it is the best.

3. But, what does this mean? What does this entail? We already, at least you and I established it is the best school; now we need to take it a step further. What does this mean? and please don’t tell me, that means UP students are genius. Try to be a bit more constructive.
1. I am not sure of the criteria or the means used or what year it was (I believe it was two years ago cuz I think I saw it somewhere before even before my prof told us about it.). But, I was sure that they didn't use "# of distinguished profs" as a criteria. They used the number of school amenities and the quality of education as parts of the basis. For quality, I do not know how they measured it. Maybe, they based it on the results of schools in board exams among other things.
I'm sure surveys can often mislead. But, when they all say the same thing, don't you think their results can somehow be trusted? ;)

2. Thank you. I hope I really did. :D

3. Geniuses can be found in every school. Not all UP students are geniuses. But, they are all "thinkers"... cuz, let's admit it, anyone who's in school has brains, even those people who haven't stepped into school. What matters now is how the school cultivates their brains and their potentials into something beneficial both for themselves and for the country. UP is simply one of the best schools who know how to "extract" these potentials. (This part is my opinion. Anyone can refute it based on his/her own subjective POVs.)
:cool:

[cool_water]

i guess the thread starter wants a survey-something supported by statistical methods and not just opinions. :)


storm_catcher , maybe you can visit CHED's website if there's any info. Pex people can only offer opinions. :)

[kublais]

Originally posted by ashley_05
According to (again) the same Histo I prof, the University of the Philippines was established in 1908 during our stint as an American colony.
The Americans realized that the schools offering tertiary education were all sectarian (ADMU, UST, DLSU). They needed to start a school similar to their universities... non-sectarian but equally competitive.
PEYUPS was their answer. UP-Manila was born. :cool: :D ... what happens next? The best applicants have forgotten the existence of those sectarian schools.


Wait; was La Salle founded earlier than peyups? Don't think so.

[freakster2k1]

I agree with you. Schools are special. Each one of them although different tries to achieve one thing, and one thing only, to give their ‘students’ a rich experience. If your school does not provide you this, then maybe you are in the wrong school. If we bicker on my school is the best ****, then we will all end up not getting that rich experience. What is it? Those that experience it knows. If after 4 years, you don’t know what this means, then maybe you attended the wrong school.

[juantwothree123]

Originally posted by Royal_Highness
1 - UP or Ateneo
3 UST

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DLSU is excluded because of its tambakan reputation.

that's not true. DLSU is not a tambakan. maraming high schools students na pumasa sa adamson, ust, feu, pup, csb and psba entrance test, but opted to enrol in dlsu.

[Ischaramoochie]

galing maghukay! :D

[rbpgoldie]

UST PA RIN THE BEST!

[tigra_fire]

Kung tingin niyo na walang bobo sa UP eh kayo mismo ay BOBO!

assumption:Bobo equated with *****!

[mac_bolan00]

but then:

concluding that

p = x

where p is a population and x is bobo cannot be proven by a theorem that

x = 0

in another population P wherein some of its elements also belong to p. this, regardless of your assumption that

x = y

wherein y is *****.

[Thoma§]

Hehe :D

[saybernuk]

Originally posted by biggfatratt
ateneo and up.

la salle pwede na rin.

then uap and csb.

lumped next together are san beda, mapua, feu, adamson, ue, siliman, usc.

yun lang ang mga reputable.

big liar! hindi ka-lvel ng UP at DLSU ang ateneo!


UP at DLSU.
then UA&P
then UST
then CSB, Beda
then NU, ateneo, ama.

[stanley]

I can't wait to see biggfatratt and saybernuk start a babble fight...

:moviebuff:

[saybernuk]

hindi ko papansinin si biggfatrat, 'coz we're not at the same level!
I'm from the Level Four university, s/he's from Level 3, Three, tatlo, tres, sa, tulo! Level three. ka-level nia ang UST at PUP. :)

[Aquinatis]

So dinadamay mo na din ang UST at PUP?? Grabe taga DLRT ka nga....

Haven't you heard that Ateneo and UST have the best debate teams in RP?

Alam ko madaming DLRT grads ang nag artista... siguro kasi hindi kinaya ng "utak"...

[Thoma§]

let's enjoy the show, guys. :D

TODITS LANG YAN SA ACADEME! :D

[im_atheneo]

Originally posted by Aquinatis
So dinadamay mo na din ang UST at PUP?? Grabe taga DLRT ka nga....

Haven't you heard that Ateneo and UST have the best debate teams in RP?

Alam ko madaming DLRT grads ang nag artista... siguro kasi hindi kinaya ng "utak"...

though i would love to make "gatong"...

grabe... whattalogic.

The statement "Haven't you heard that Ateneo and UST have the best debate teams in RP?" just DOESNT FOLLOW.

anyway...

Blue *owl* ---> the King!

[Thoma§]

o, puso mo, bro. :D

[Ischaramoochie]

tama! tapos si biggfatratt yung dandruff :lol:

[AgnasKa]

Originally posted by Ischaramoochie
tama! tapos si biggfatratt yung dandruff :lol:


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! oo nga 'noh? :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Thoma§]

uy!! huwag niyong ganyanin ang ulam kohhh!! :mad:

*peace*

(o may typoh akoh -- ayokoh nah poh at bomibelog nanaman ang ngosoh koh)

[im_atheneo]

Originally posted by Ischaramoochie
tama! tapos si biggfatratt yung dandruff :lol:

wahaha! Joke of the Year!

buti na lang di kita ka school, ang boring siguro ng buhay ko kung ganyan magjoke mga classmates ko.

Blue *owl* ---> the King!

[Ischaramoochie]

i see. you have a different version of boring. oh well, poh-tay-toe/po-tah-to...

[sanpo]

napuno ng tubig yung utak dahil sa baha.. kaya corny

[im_atheneo]

stop that sanpo!

i bet all thomasians here would beg to disagree since it has been said (and legend has it :D ) that they have already installed a WATER TREATMENT PLANT to combat the flooding.

i know the term sounds weird (and inappropriate) but hey, to each his own. They are thomasians and we arent.

Ischaramoochie: i think you mean boredom... you are forgiven.

Blue *owl* ---> the King!

[mac_bolan00]

im_ateneo,

who teaches civil engineering at ateneo? water treatment facilities cannot combat flooding.

[im_atheneo]

Originally posted by mac_bolan00
im_ateneo,

who teaches civil engineering at ateneo? water treatment facilities cannot combat flooding.

naku baka ma-ban ka!

anyway, ganito ang explanation sa kin dyan ng isang thomasian...

"natatawa talaga ako dito kay atheneo, kaya nga water treatment plant e kasi tini-treat niya yung flood(water)!"

hm... i wonder if they call their aircons as digital ice.

Blue *owl* ---> the King!

[Thoma§]

here we go again with the endless debates (re: water treatment facility ng UST)

sus naman. isang thread na ang sinayang natin para lang ipaliwanag ko sa inyo ang pinagkaiba ng water treatment facility sa drainage. :*)

originally posted by biggfatratt
with all due respect to gays, di ba you people are supposed to be fun and funny?

what happened to you, moochy?
in fairness, you really make me laugh all the time. ;)

ang machow ko.

[saybernuk]

ayan PURO BADING from ATENEO and UST ang andito. labas na nga me.

basta sa mga ateneans under the magis spell of the jesuitas, Ateneo is the best! :lol:

[saybernuk]

Originally posted by Ischaramoochie
tama! tapos si biggfatratt yung dandruff :lol:

kuto si bigfatratt aka juantwothree123, kayo mga polgos!

[saybernuk]

ok lets stick to the topic guys.


ATeneo is the best University in the Philippines and in the whole wide world!



















































I lied! :lol:

[ar!ene]

i believe up is the best, though im from ust..

[juantwothree123]

Originally posted by mac_bolan00
im_ateneo,

who teaches civil engineering at ateneo? water treatment facilities cannot combat flooding.

o bakit may sumasabat na matanda dito? Please read the whole thread first before you intrude. ang hirap kasi masyadong maraming alam.

[im_atheneo]

binura kasi ng mga mods yung previous posts ko e...

anyway, sinabi talaa ng mga Thomasians yun.

Blue *owl ---> the King!

[Thoma§]

did your friend suggest that too? :blush:

he/she should be the one in vacation, not you. *pacute*