law and masteral degree

[alberic_00152]

Hey guys, just wondering if it is possible to take law and a masters degree in the same time?

[prof_x]

Originally posted by alberic_00152
Hey guys, just wondering if it is possible to take law and a masters degree in the same time?

You can take Law and Medicine for that matter. This really depends on you - on how you manage your time.

[alberic_00152]

Uhuh..
Eventually I have a professor who si taking his PhD and she is planning to enroll into law school.
Well you're right about that prof_x, it really depends on one's time management.

[Introvert_S]

aawwww!!!! hindi ba parang torture yon.....

[alberic_00152]

Well intovert_s, torture nga yun. pero na sa tayo nga if he can manage his/her time and if he can survive it then great!

Ako nga after makagraduate i'll enroll to law then i'll try to take my masters degree. Kung kaya ko at matatagalan ko, maganda. kung hindi naman i'll stick to one first.

[alberic_00152]

hey guys,
what do you think a good combination as a masters degree and a doctoral degree if you like to be specialized in different fields? and would it be a right choice to take a Master of Laws (LLM) and a Doctor of Civil Law (JCD) if you're a Bachelor of Laws (LLB) holder or if you're a lawyer and if you want to be in an academe?

[IMHOTEP]

alberic good luck 'pre :cool:

Sa totoo lang, parang nakakatakot yung gagawin mo. pero kung kaya mo naman, eh sige, diretcho.

Masters ako next year sa SBC. baka magturo din ako dun.

About naman dun sa COED at University thing ng eskewela natin ( I assume taga BEda ka). Oks lang din sa akin yun. Kita ko rin plano nila. ONe of my friends in the current admin told me about the plans they have for our alma mater and its for the best din naman of the sbc community.

PAX

[alberic_00152]

hey sir imhotep!

Yup bedista ako and i'm a 3rd yr. AB Philo and HRD student. Ikaw, anong course mo? that would make you an alumnus of our school right?

Nakakatakot nga yung binabalak ko. college of law na lang natin ako kukuha ng law then masters ko sa UST (Public Administration) pagnatapos ko yung masters tuturo din ako sa CAS habang tinatapos ko yung law at para medyo may konting income. (policy kasi ng CAS dapat masteral degree graduate ka
para maging faculty)

Oo nga sir. sa una medyo masama pa ang pakiramdam ko dun kasi parang napaka abrupt nung implementation. i even join the current SC administration in their protest. pero nung nadkadialogue between the CAS admin, naliwanagan nako and i'm now in support with their plans.

maganda yang binabalak nyo sir. maganda ang masteral degree offerings ng Beda. mukhang nalalapit na ang pagiging formator mo sir imhotep!

[alberic_00152]

Marami kasing abugado na hangang Bachelor of Laws (LLB) lang ang kinukuha nila then after that tapos na. Maganda siguro kumuha pa ng mga graduate degrees para pwede kahit saan.

[alberic_00152]

kung magawang kong tapusin masters ko at law in the same time magaling at pwede ko nang iderecho sa Doctoral.

I want to become a lawyer - academician.

[alberic_00152]

marami kasing nagsasabi na it would be impractical na kumuha pa ng graduate degrees if you're already earned a law degree because it is already a graduate degree.

[PUGSLEY]

Originally posted by alberic_00152
Hey guys, just wondering if it is possible to take law and a masters degree in the same time?

Yes, its possible only that both courses are very rigorous and demanding.

Just wondering why would you want to take these courses at the same time when in fact a Master's degree can be finished in 2 years and a Law Degree in 4 years.....

What's the rush?

[WebbeR]

PAX!

'ey bro it's possible alryt. i almost did it myself. i agree that it requires excellent time management indeed. but while i was in law school, i was also working @ the same time so i had the master's degree set aside for until the time i get 2 finish law school...which i already have & m gearing up now 4 d bar. pls. pray 4 me brods. i'd really appreciate it. lahat na rin kaming barristers this sept. newayz, as m writing this, it occured to me na kung ano na kaya ang itutuloy ko na master's? will it be my MBA or Master of Laws? or magturo na rin?

well neway, first thing's first: the bar exams! :D

U.I.O.G.D.

[IMHOTEP]

Originally posted by WebbeR
PAX!

'ey bro it's possible alryt. i almost did it myself. i agree that it requires excellent time management indeed. but while i was in law school, i was also working @ the same time so i had the master's degree set aside for until the time i get 2 finish law school...which i already have & m gearing up now 4 d bar. pls. pray 4 me brods. i'd really appreciate it. lahat na rin kaming barristers this sept. newayz, as m writing this, it occured to me na kung ano na kaya ang itutuloy ko na master's? will it be my MBA or Master of Laws? or magturo na rin?

well neway, first thing's first: the bar exams! :D

U.I.O.G.D.

Good Luck Webber and to your fellow barristers! Make San BEda proud once more! :)

That in all things God may be glorified!

PAX

[alberic_00152]

hey sir webber, goodluck syo sa bar exam! dont worry 'll include you in my prayer to The Our Lady of Monserrat (lagi kasi akong nagdadasal dun e) Make our Alma Mater proud!

Dito ka ba sa College of Law ng Beda?

Well sir depende syo kahit ano dun pwede kung pero i think mas mataas ang Master of Laws kaysa Master of Business Administration and with it you can teach both in the CAS and College of Law already. You're really gearing up to become a formator which i really admire.

good luck sir webber at balitaan mo naman ako kung nkapasa ka sa Bar ha?!


jc00152@sanbeda.edu.ph

[Bea19]

Wow! Sobrang galing mo na mag budget ng time kung mapagsaby mo pa! Ako ngalang ubos na oras ko sa law school e. Pero **** after 4 years ko sa law makapag masters din ako in Public Relations! haayyy wish ko lang!

[alberic_00152]

Bea19, just aim for it at cguradong magagawa mo yon. Ikaw na isang law student...

san ka ba nagtatake law?

[WebbeR]

PAX!

big tnx brods 4 wishing us luck & 4 d prayers. i appreciate it. we all do in one way or another & rest assured tht we will do our best in making the Bedan Community proud once more despite all the controversies & criticisms tht have recently came to our alma mater.

alberic_00152 : yes i finished my LLB in San Beda just last SY. finished my bus. mngt. & entrep. degree dyan na rin. :)

thnks again in behalf of the Bedan Barristers!

U.I.O.G.D.

[Bea19]

Alberic. sa UPHR in Las Pinas. Anyway bglaan ko lang naman naisipan mag law. I was about to take my MA in UA&P e malapit lang sa amin ang UPHR so sabi ng Mom ko try ko lang ang law for fun. Next sem talaga mga 11 units lang kukuhanin ko. Nakakaloka e!

[alberic_00152]

Bea19, oo nga sabi rin ng iba nakakaloka talaga ang law. But i'm rooting to take it pagnakagraduate nako (next year) and i'll try to work out with an MA (kung makakaya ng time management ko.) Pero bilib din ako sa mga taong katulad mo. very patient. kelan ka pala gragraduate ng law (LLB)?

Sir Webber, LLB (i mean Atty. Webber. hehe), bedistang-bedista ka pala. nakakatuwa lang talaga. galingan mo sa bar at ipagdadasal talag kita. buti hindi ka masyadong na****nse o kinakabahan para sa Bar? (mas maganda yun para hindi masyadong mapressure)

Webber and Bea19, how do you study and memorize those laws?
Sabi kasi ng abugadong prof. namin hindi raw effective magmemorize ng verbatim. Mas effective daw na basahin mo ng ilang try hanggang maintindihan mo at nakaprogram na sa utak mo *** laws or yung story ng isang kaso (para lang daw na nagbabasa ng comics. yung mga importanteng details lang ang kukunin) is that true and would that be effective?

And another thing, how about fraternities/sororities ng mga law students? member ba kayo, Sir Webber at Ma'am Bea19?

[MR_MKALGLGPANTY]

Hi.

If you're pertaining to a course-specific masterals degree, then I agree with almost everyone here...it really depends on whether or not you could manage it. You could do it simultaneously if you could properly manage your time as well as the workload. I know someone five years ago who took up law in San Beda (full load), was working (full time) and was taking up a masteral's degree in Industrial Relations at the University of the Philippines. She managed unscathed.

If you're pertaining to a generic (for lack of a better word) masteral's degree, however, please bear in mind that by virtue of a Supreme Court memorandum, A law degree is now considered a master's degree. The full text is copy-pasted below:

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Republic of the Philippines
Supreme Court
Manila

MEMORANDUM FOR:

All Concerned Office

For your information, attached is a photocopy of the letter dated February 19, 2001 of Ms. Ester A. Garcia, Chairperson, Commission on Higher Education (CHED) informing the Honorable Chief Justice that the CHED has accredited the degree of Bachelor of Laws with corresponding Bar eligibility as equivalent to a relevant Master's Degree per its en banc Resolution No. 038-2001, a copy of which is likewise attached. Parenthetically, the said Resolution includes the degree of Doctor of Medicine with corresponding board eligibility as equivalent to a relevant Master's degree.

March 15, 2001


EDEN T. CANDELARIA
Deputy Clerk of Court and
Chief Administrative Officer

Copy furnished:
Office of the Chief Justice
Offices of the Associate Justices
Philippine Judicial Academy
Judicial and Bar Council
Office of the Court Administrator
Office of the Clerk of Court
Offices of the Division Clerks of Court
Office of Administrative Services
Office of the Chief Attorney
Office of the Reporter
Judicial Records Office
Office of the Bar Confidant
Management Information Systems Office
Fiscal Management & Budget Office
Medical and Dental Services
Library Services
Printing Services

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Republic of the Philippines
OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT
COMMISSION ON HIGHER EDUCATION


February 19, 2001
HONORABLE HILARIO DAVIDE, JR.
Chief Justice
Supreme Court of the Philippines
Padre Faura Street corner Taft Avenue
Ermita, Manila

Dear Chief Justice Davide:

I am pleased to inform your good office of the en banc decision of the Commission on Higher Education on the accreditation of Bachelor of Laws (LI.B.) with bar eligibility as equivalent to a relevant Master's Degree per attached Resolution No. 038, Series of 2001. The rationale behind this is that Bachelor of Laws is a higher degree requiring completion of a first bachelor's degree before proceeding to the professional degree program.

The Civil Service Commission (CSC) as per Memorandum Circular No. 1-A, Series of 1997, likewise recognizes degree holders of Bachelor of Laws with bar eligibility for permanent appointment to Division Chief positions provided that applicants meet other requirements of the post. This is further supported by an earlier ruling of the CSC which considers an applicant who is at least a holder of a Master's Degree qualified for the post of Division Chief.

In view of the above CHED policy and rationale, any other master's degree earned by the individual relative to the discipline of law is considered equivalent to a second or third Master's degree as the case may be.

Thank you and best regards.


Very truly yours,


ESTER A. GARCIA
Chairperson

[WICKEDQUEEN]

It depends. Kung kaya mo ba e, bakit hindi. But it's more practical to focus on one degree, especially if you're going to take up law, because law studies are notoriously and unbelievably demanding. This is very true if you plan to take up law in ALS. The reason why ALS do not allow students to work or take up another masters' degree while taking up their JD program is that, the study load in ALS is extremely heavy. :( This was also the reason why I had to let go of my masterals in La Salle. :(

[alberic_00152]

Uhuh...point well taken and thanks for those infom especially about the CHED Memorandum. But JD means Juris Doctor which also means Doctor of Law (not Laws) or Doctro Jurisprudence. Would that mean that the JD degree of ALS is a Doctoral degree? are the JD graduates of the ALS used Doctoral gowns during their commencement exercise?

[alberic_00152]

Another thing, is it possible to take Master of Laws even without the Bachelor of Laws or even you haven't finished the LLB?
And in connection the CHED Memorandum, Wil it will make the Master of Laws equivalent to a Doctoral Degree?

[alberic_00152]

What school here in the Philippines offers a PhD in Public Policies (not Public Administration)?

[alberic_00152]

just wondering about the JD degree of Ateneo School of Law, is that really an equivalent to a doctoral degree?
And saang school dito sa Philippines and nagooffer ng graduate studies sa Public Policy?

[CORN_U]

Originally posted by alberic_00152
Marami kasing abugado na hangang Bachelor of Laws (LLB) lang ang kinukuha nila then after that tapos na. Maganda siguro kumuha pa ng mga graduate degrees para pwede kahit saan.

You're right. A prime example is Chief Justice Davide. Hanggang LLB lang siya.

[WebbeR]

well to tell u frankly, i think there's not one barrister who's not tense or petrified when it comes to taking the bar this Sept. :) as it draws near, u can't help but wonder whether or not u've learned enough or have been equipped enough to take on the ultimate herculean task.

as for ur question on whether or not it's more effective not to memorize verbatim but taking focus on the gist of it, it's all up 2 u. my advice, do whatever it is tht works 4 u. different strokes for different folks ryt? but still, it's better if u do know it verbatimly & understand it @ d same time. :)

oh & 1 more thing bro, if u really want 2 b good @ whatever u take on, take up the attitude/character of my maxim: There is no room for mediocrity. & u shall not go wrong.

PAX!

U.I.O.G.D.

[alberic_00152]

Thanks 4 that advice!!

[Bea19]

Sabi nga ng classmates ko bakit ko pa daw balak mag M.A e magiging lawyer na nga daw ako. hehehe balak ko lang naman e. Ang mahrap lang pagsabayin is alam ko night classes din ang M.A and law e. So medyo impossible na ****. Sa UPHR kse walang frats kse medyo knoti lang kme 1 section per year level, tapos 6pm everday ang class.
In terms of memorization wala pa akong ma shashare kse lagi akong bokya sa recitation dahil di ko mamemorize ang mga lecheng articles na yan. freshie pa lang ako. I plan to finish law in 5 or 6 years. Dinrop ko yung Pol law 1 ko kse si Atty. Juanito Arcilla from Beda e inivite mag turo ni Jistice Cruz sa amin e hndi ko sya type magturo masydo ako na strestress so dnirop ko sya.

[WICKEDQUEEN]

Hi alberic_00152!

just wondering about the JD degree of Ateneo School of Law, is that really an equivalent to a doctoral degree?

Honestly, I don't think so because when you compare the doctoral degrees of law of other countries, the load is way heavier compared to ALS. Or it can also mean that ALS standards are different from those schools. But what I'm absolutely certain is that, 1) it is possible for you to take a JD program in ALS without finishing an LL B (that's what I did but it'll be alot easier if you would take LL B first) and 2) the JD program in ALS is definitely more difficult compared to other LL B degrees - not only because you have to write a thesis before you graduate, but also for the mere fact of studying, er, mastering laws and jurisprudence. It is a major requirement for us to memorize almost everything in verbatim, otherwise, we flunk. :( This is especially true with all the codal provisions of criminal, labor, constitutional, civil, political, and remedial law and how it is properly construed and invoked. Kasi dito naman as long as you graduated from a recognized law school and you passed the bar, you can already practice law.

[sedfrey]

Originally posted by WICKEDQUEEN
Hi alberic_00152!
Honestly, I don't think so because when you compare the doctoral degrees of law of other countries, the load is way heavier compared to ALS. Or it can also mean that ALS standards are different from those schools. But what I'm absolutely certain is that, 1) it is possible for you to take a JD program in ALS without finishing an LL B (that's what I did but it'll be alot easier if you would take LL B first) and 2) the JD program in ALS is definitely more difficult compared to other LL B degrees - not only because you have to write a thesis before you graduate,


For sure, the Ateneo JD is NOT a Ph D. It's just a tougher LL B. Oh, and you CAN'T take an LL B before taking the JD, that would mean that you're already entitled to take the bar.


but also for the mere fact of studying, er, mastering laws and jurisprudence. It is a major requirement for us to memorize almost everything in verbatim, otherwise, we flunk. :( This is especially true with all the codal provisions of criminal, labor, constitutional, civil, political, and remedial law and how it is properly construed and invoked. Kasi dito naman as long as you graduated from a recognized law school and you passed the bar, you can already practice law.

Over naman, kung ganun, no one will pass Ateneo. It's impossible to memorize the law verbatim! I've survived up to 3rd year without memorizing verbatim. However, I do read the materials three times before every exam. Different subjects emphasize different things. In Consti 1, codal provisions are important. In Consti 2, jurisprudence is important. Labor is also very jurisprudential, so you have to pay close attention to cases, especially new cases. Civil Law doesn't really have to be memorized verbatim may be codal oriented, so it might pay to know the provisions. But in Remedial (Procedural) law, DON'T MEMORIZE THE CODAL PROVISIONS VERBATIM. You don't need to! As long as you know how things all fit together, no need to memorize anything!

[WICKEDQUEEN]

Originally posted by sedfrey

For sure, the Ateneo JD is NOT a Ph D. It's just a tougher LL B. Oh, and you CAN'T take an LL B before taking the JD, that would mean that you're already entitled to take the bar.

:wave: ! Pero kuya you know what? I wish I could've taken LL B first before the JD. Hirap sa mga professors namin e. :( That way I can appreciate my JD studies more because somehow I have a background knowledge. Well I guess it's comparably tough when I take an LL B in other schools as well, or it might be that we didn't have much luck when we were provided a set of 'punishers' for teachers - cruel and tormenting insofar as memorizing, analyzing, and giving a high stack of cases is concerned.

Over naman, kung ganun, no one will pass Ateneo. It's impossible to memorize the law verbatim! I've survived up to 3rd year without memorizing verbatim. However, I do read the materials three times before every exam. Different subjects emphasize different things. In Consti 1, codal provisions are important. In Consti 2, jurisprudence is important. Labor is also very jurisprudential, so you have to pay close attention to cases, especially new cases. Civil Law doesn't really have to be memorized verbatim may be codal oriented, so it might pay to know the provisions. But in Remedial (Procedural) law, DON'T MEMORIZE THE CODAL PROVISIONS VERBATIM. You don't need to! As long as you know how things all fit together, no need to memorize anything!

Not really impossible... but our teachers actually require us to memorize the law in verbatim. :depressed: Some professors reason out that we won't get to be effective lawyers if we cannot invoke the law in verbatim and interpret it in the proper perspective...Sana nga he's only bluffing or testing our resolve e...But can you imagine that for statcon alone, this teacher flunks and humiliates us in recitation just because we failed to recite his own definition - even if our own words convey just exactly the same meaning? I just hope and pray that I pass his exams. :depressed2:

Or sana swertihin kame na mababait teachers namin for next sem - if we pass this sem, that is. *me crosses fingers and prays hard*

[sedfrey]

Originally posted by WICKEDQUEEN


:wave: ! Pero kuya you know what? I wish I could've taken LL B first because we failed to recite his own definition - even if our own words convey just exactly the same meaning? I just hope and pray that I pass his exams. :depressed2:

Or sana swertihin kame na mababait teachers namin for next sem - if we pass this sem, that is. *me crosses fingers and prays hard*

Oh my god, do you have Atty. Paguia for statcon? haha, good luck. :)

No such thing as an easy set of teachers na. :( Every section has a mixed set.

[alberic_00152]

Uhuh...thanks for those advice!

Kahit paano I have already some ideas when enter Law after i graduate from my AB degree sa SBC. Sabi nga nung isang prof. namin masyadong murder and Law kasi nakita daw nya yung isang Law Student na umiiyak in her class kasi pinapagalitan nung isang justice na law prof. dahil hindi raw makasagot sa recitation. Siguro kasama na sa package ng Law School ang complete humiliation, don't you think?

But for a certain JD is not a PhD or any Professional Doctoraten right?...But how come i could see JD graduates use doctoral gowns during academic convocations? And if you already have an LLB why not take LLM instead of JD?

[alberic_00152]

And how come JD graduates use doctoral gowns but LLB graduates uses bachelor's gowns pero pareho lang naman silang first degree sa law?

[WICKEDQUEEN]

sedfrey:

:lol: natumpak mo kagad! :glee: ano kaya magandang gift sa birthday nun?

easy set of teachers? hmmmm sabagay. pero sa ibang sections, buti pa sila 2 o 3 o 4 lang yung pamatay nilang mga teachers. samin isa o 2 lang yung mabaet. :(


alberic:

Definitely. Nung first days of school, kami napapaiyak nalang after e, tas direcho sa chapel. 'Lam mo yun? Yung aral na aral ka tas biglang nablanko yung utak mo sa sobrang kaba? Tas babarahin ka for every word they consider as mistakes? Madugo masyado. :hopeless: Pero yung frustration nagiging inis. Yung inis nagiging drive para husayan sa susunod...para matuwa naman sila kahit konte. Ganun talaga ang mapait naming kapalaran e... :(

Well I guess our JD in ALS oughts to be as it is as defined by law dictionaries. Kaso if you'd get to know about law PhD's or JD's or LL M in other countries, it's a lot different e. (Sabagay LL B sa Oxford anlaki ng pinagkaiba sa LL B ng UP). Basta however we may classify it, our kuya Sedfrey's right in saying that JD in ALS is only a tougher LL B. Our JD program is never equal to an LL B degree, either. It's on a higher level.

As for doctoral gowns...well...I think our upper batchmen are the ones more qualified to answer. I'll go ask.

Taking an LL M after finishing an LL B is also a good option if somebody really wants to master Law. Thing is, no other lawschool in the Philippines that we know of offers an LL M. Syempre rather than take up an LL M abroad, it's more practical to avail of almost similar degrees higher than LL B here in the Philippines. Though I still have plans to take up an LL M or a PhD or a degree on [Public] International Law specialization because that's what I dream of practicing, for now it's more practical to study here. Wala pa'kong pera pang-abroad e. ;)

[alberic_00152]

Thanks for the informations.

OO nga wickedqueen talagang kasama na siguro yung complete humiliation sa Law School. Nakakasama ng ang loob yung ready ka nang magrecite tapos ma memental-block ka at babarahin ka pa ng mga prof. Bilib din ako sa determination ninyo. Galing talaga.

Please do ask about the doctoral gown thing, curious lang ako.

If i'm not mistaken UST and UP offers LLM while UST offers Doctor of Civil Law.

[alberic_00152]

Wickedqueen,

Yeah, its good to take graduate studies on law especially if you want to specialized on a certain field. And Public International Law is a good field.

Yes, i'm right about it. UP and UST offers LLM (but UP temporarily suspended its admission...i don't know why) and UST offers the Doctor of Civil Law degree.

And please do ask your upperclassmen in ALS (i guess you're taking your Law there.) about the doctoral gown for JDs (but not for LLBs given the fact that those two are both first degree in Law) just curious about it. Thanks!

[sedfrey]

Originally posted by WICKEDQUEEN
sedfrey:

:lol: natumpak mo kagad! :glee: ano kaya magandang gift sa birthday nun?

easy set of teachers? hmmmm sabagay. pero sa ibang sections, buti pa sila 2 o 3 o 4 lang yung pamatay nilang mga teachers. samin isa o 2 lang yung mabaet. :(

Well, try to get on the good side of Atty. Paguia. He flunked 18 in his 2nd year admi law class. :( I actually did well in his statcon class, but only because I got his style immediately for his exams, which is, be PASSIONATE while writing.

Btw, do you also have Atty. Sedfrey? Kawawa class niya. sobrang dami cases, wala pang matututunan :( I had him and Paguia for first year first sem. Kung nagkataon you have Commissioner Veloso din, naku, I'll pray for you. :(

ALS is only a tougher LL B. Our JD program is never equal to an LL B degree, either. It's on a higher level.

As for what level that is, I guess it's really that our JD trains you for further studies, if you want to. The impression I have of an LL M is that it's not just a professional degree, like you study stuff to use in your work. I think Masters and Doctorates are for people who want to contribute to a particular field by contributing original ideas backed up with real research. Our thesis requirement is our "baptism of fire" in this intensive research/original contribute brouhaha. For instance, I heard this story that the thesis of Enrile in Harvard (LL M) was the first law he passed as a Senator.

As to humiliation, I guess it's like Atty. Cesar Villanueva says -- better to be humiliated in class than to be humiliated in actual practice, before a judge, while representing a multi-million dollar case. Di ba kung sinisigawan ka, it's maasim, like lemons? Well, the challenge for you is to make lemonade out of the lemons.

[Bea19]

Ako dinorop ko na yung Pol. Law ko. Sa 2nd yr ko na itake nakakpressure msydo e, atska ako i'm taking my time. Pero if law is really not for me mag MA na lang **** ako. Tips naman on how to memorize provisions oh!

[alberic_00152]

Napansin ko lang na puro matatanda ang mga prof. sa law. If not, mga may experience sa field ng law (e.g: justices, commissioners, etc.) pero wala pa akong nalalamang batang abugado na nagtuturo.

[alberic_00152]

Napansin ko lang na puro matatanda ang mga prof. sa law. If not, mga may experience sa field ng law (e.g: justices, commissioners, etc.) pero wala pa akong nalalamang batang abugado na nagtuturo.

And curious lang ako, sa Harvard yung mga JD graduates uses doctoral gowns e sa Ateneo School of law ba they also use doctoral gowns sa mga JD graduates nila? Pero bakit yung mga LLB pang Bachelors lang e kung tutuusin they're both first degree in law?

[WICKEDQUEEN]

alberic:
young profs? samin meron! marami-rami rin. karamihan mga nag- LL M or PhD abroad.

bea:
try mo lang-
- read it and memorize it like how you memorized "Our Father" and the "Apostle's Creed" or "Hail Mary". kami kasi nagme-memorize hanggang sa pag-shower, pagjebak, pagbihis, habang kumakain, bago matulog, etc. :glee:

- read it aloud/mentally (whichever is more effective) a number of times and write it on paper. cover your codals, resist the urge of looking, and if totally unsuccessfull, that's the time you only refer to your codal.

- focus and concentrate. this was my major problem way back in college but since it was a necessity, i simply had no other choice. empty your mind with all other thoughts, understand well the meaning and how the language was employed, take it by heart with all passion like a lawyer in court (naaks!), and say it aloud.

-reading related jurisprudence is also helpful. kunyare, Tsing Ming Tsoi v. Gina Lao Tsoi - successfully invoked Art.36 (Psychological Incapacity) - the requisites root cause, juridical antecedent were present..... [this case is very interesting. ingat lang sa laughtrip.]

- use keywords and letters, and number them. kunyare, Art.36 in Family Code - Psychological Incapacity as a ground for voidable marriage.

O kaya,

1987 Consti, Art.8 - Judicial Branch. Judicial Power - SC. "...duty of the Courts to
1)settle actual controversies involving (what?)
-rights legally demandable and enforceable,
2)and to determine whether or not there exist a grave abuse of discretion
3)amounting to lack or in excess of jurisdiction
4)in the government or any branch or instrumentality thereof."

O kaya,

sa RPC,
requisites of self defense(3)- self defense is in Art.11 Par.1:
1)UA [unlawful agression],
2)RNotME [reasonable necessity of the means employed],
3)LoSP [Lack of sufficient provocation]

hope this helps. :bungi:

kuya sedfrey:
awww! that's bad. :( ansama ng feedback ko sa kanya e. "I've never seen a wrong answer PERSUASIVELY WRITTEN!" tawa pa sya non. :(

Yes we have Atty. "Sedfrey" Kawawa compared to other sections pero masaya doon, we have the edge. Galing ng training nya. All of us know exactly when and how the constitutional provisions work - while for other people in other sections, more often they don't know what we know. Meron naman kami natutunan kahit papano, madami actually. ;)

We don't have Commissioner Veloso but I heard he teaches in 1-E. Madugo nga raw sa kanila. Sa'min mabait si Atty. Azucena.

So if our thesis requirement is more like "baptism of fire" with contributing ideas backed up by real research, then I guess that's it! Kasi when I asked my other friends in UP or San Beda Law, they don't write their thesis. Tayo lang! ;)

As to humiliation, I guess it's like Atty. Cesar Villanueva says -- better to be humiliated in class than to be humiliated in actual practice, before a judge, while representing a multi-million dollar case. Di ba kung sinisigawan ka, it's maasim, like lemons? Well, the challenge for you is to make lemonade out of the lemons.

:bounce2:

[alberic_00152]

uhuh...i think maganda kung mga bata ang law profs. mas magaling ang output pati environment sa mga students. e sa San beda law pulos matatanda, iisa lang ata yung bata (hindi ko pa nga sure kung bata nga o mukhang bata lang yung nakita ko) kasi karamihan sa law faculty sa Beda are the likes of Atty. Saguisag, Cong. Nachura, etc. (pulos matatanda kaya madaling uminit yung mga ulo nila!)

[Bea19]

Hayy mdterms na namin! Mukhang malabo mga sagot ko sa persons. Sa thur na ang crim law ko. Actually nabasa ko ang Tsi Ming tsoi..heheheh tawa nga kme ng tawa. Dapat ang Partner nya yung girls sa CA vs. Jimenez.heheh thanks for the advice! Medyo namemeorize ko na cila kaya lang pag may namememorize ako may ibang nakakalimutan din ako.Anyway sanayan lang ****.

[fox_broderick]

Yup I think it's possible na pagsabayin mo law degree & masters degree because I know someone in the graduate school na ganoon ang kaso niya. Kaklase ko pa sa La Salle.

But brace yourself though, you have to be a full-time student in that case and be emotionally fit to work on 2 degrees 'coz to work on 2 degrees could be taxing and demanding.

On being a full-time student, well, siyempre masasakripisyo ang paghahanap mo ng trabaho. Or if you insist on having a work, get a part-time ones kung kaya mo pa magtrabaho while juggling 2 degrees.

At tsaka, you also have to master the art of managing your time & priorities.

[adelantado]

goodluck webber!!

try to beat our batch last year 3 topnotchers number !! eric, rex, george heheheh

kung hindi lang line of 7 ang tax ko pasok ako sa top ten and san beda would have had 4 top notchers hehehe

ANG POGING BEDISTA HEHEHEH

APB

[TwIsTeD_Rubz]

There's NO SUCH WORD AS MASTERAL. yun lang...


but yeah y not? mga medico legal med and law yun. maybe it's ok to get the MASTER'S degree if it doesn't overlap with the Law degree.