Young Entrepreneurs ** tayo

[Krakista]

President: We're gonna talk business but maybe not talk about doing business yet. There'll be serious talk, plain talk and we may also discuss the haosiao goings-on in this business world. Care to join us? :) (http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45421&pagenumber=106)

[SILENTMAX]

haosio?

pardon for my ignorance ano po ibig sabihin neto?

[marlo_kalbo]

It's Chinese for "siraul0"... or something like that.

-kalbo

[SILENTMAX]

oh ok.


Mr president
i can guarranty you with a no bs eb full of business talks and plans on world domination :D

i mean if you cant rule the world why bother?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha :p

hows that for haosio .......

[Krakista]

Originally posted by marlo_kalbo
It's Chinese for "siraul0"... or something like that.

-kalbo That's siaosiao not haosiao. I don't know the literal translation of haosiao but from the context of its usage it sort of means trickery or hocus-pocus.

Re: EB

Btw, after the EB at Tazza Cafe, we can go billiards or sing at the KTV bar across the street. For those who live in the north, this is your opportunity to attend a PEx EB. This is as north as we can get. I Hope to see you next week.

[President]

question lang, what is the line of biz of people attending the eb? all fil-chi ba?

[babyme]

hey sama me sa EB but wait who can i get in touch with ???
para namna organized tayo hehehhehe

[zimdude]

enjoy the EB! I think I'll be at the Web Awards... but if it ends early, habol ako! :sunnysmile:

[Krakista]

Originally posted by President
question lang, what is the line of biz of people attending the eb? all fil-chi ba? Various line of businesses--trading, manufacturing, services, food, software, construction equipment, etc. No, it's not all Fil-Chi, but majority is Fil-Chi.
Originally posted by babyme
hey sama me sa EB but wait who can i get in touch with ???
para namna organized tayo hehehhehe You can get in touch with me. Just check your Private Message Box. We're organized naman as this is the 14th EB I'm doing. :)

[SILENTMAX]

uy ok yan i add ko rin linya ko.

trading
I.T.
computer Services
and
Agriculture





and nope im not fil chinese :)


cavitenio ako :)
tatay ko cavitenio
lolo ko cavitenio
tatay nang lolo ko cavitenio
lolo nang lolo ko cavitenio


saio saio na ba?

[erols72]

tagal kong nawala sa thread na to.

nababad kasi ako sa Sports Center.

pwede ba?

nasa real estate, construction business ang linya ko.

[SILENTMAX]

lam mo naman that everbody is welcome eh :)
welcome back :)

[Krakista]

See you all tonight! *party* :cheers: *party*

[SILENTMAX]

how did the eb go?

im sorry that i didnt make it
i was so tired from a previous engagement that i i just though to just go home. i was in alabang so it was from far south to far north and i knew the traffic was also heavy going there.



next time makati naman :D

[summit012]

Guys, What business do u think will be a hit in the coming 2003 and beyond? and why? Let's share some ideas.

(note: Think as if u are a tycoon looking for opportunities that will only need small capital)

[Krakista]

SILENTMAX: There were just 6 of us at the EB but we had great fun! :bounce2: Yup, the traffic was bad especially in our area and even though the venue was near to my place I had to fetch and drive someone home in Mandaluyong. Yup, next time Makati na lang pero ikaw na lang mag-organize para sure akng pumunta and I'll just back you up. :D (http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45421&pagenumber=107)

[Krakista]

Originally posted by summit012
Guys, What business do u think will be a hit in the coming 2003 and beyond? and why? Let's share some ideas.
Our PC penetration rate is less than 1% a year ago and I could imagine there would be a market for affordable, reconditioned PCs.

[SILENTMAX]

hmmm 2003?

salons: dont ask me why i just see a lot of growth in it
a spinoff would be a day spa.

ill be posting some more :)

[Krakista]

Pugon-baked pandesal, the next bandwagon?

Pan de Manila is the "original" and some gaya-gayas have already come out. There's Panaderos along South Superhighway, Makati which is just a block or two before the closest Pan de Manila. Another one I saw just this evening was Pan de Pinoy along Reina Regente in Binondo which is more or less a kilometer away from the nearest Pan de Manila in J. Abad Santos Avenue in Tondo.

Selling like hotcakes is an American idiom that means to be disposed of quickly. Here, to be PC, it's better to say selling like pandesal. :)
(http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45421&pagenumber=107)

[SILENTMAX]

my friend asked me about that pandesal

uummmm whats PUGON?

yung ang tanong nya sakin eh di react ako eh di pandesal?!?!?!

heheheh whats the right answere ba?

[Krakista]

PUGON - brick oven over wood fire.

BTW, just passed by both Pan de Manila and Panadero's along South Superhighway past midnight. They both have long lines. As for me, still working at this time. :)


Check out this website (http://viloria.com/) of one of LG's besprens --> http://viloria.com/ :D

[SILENTMAX]

I

just finished reading entrep magazine cover to cover
been thinking about kakrista's offer to organize the young entreppreneur eb
been thinking about the posibilities of doing a feasibility study on it, aplying it, and executing it
so heres my plan, they say the best managers find others with the great skill that they dont have, and hiring them to execute their plans for them so im getting an aide from a real life events organizer and asking her to actually setup the plans for it.

but i need ur help i have re read the thread and have come up with 39 unique posters genuinenly interested in business im currently sending pm's to ur inbox and asking if you would be interested in attendin an eb in the near future (like lets say jan/feb) i have come up with subject topics and common interests that we could all tackle but the main thing here is networking with similiar entrepreneurs and helping each other out. And making friends !

in lieu of this i also have thought of another great(stupid/ridiculus/insane/ludicruise) IDEA! and it will be detailed in part two of this post. i hope we could make this eb a success but its going to be a lot of hard work blood sweat and tears to pull it off. help me help you in this quest for the first ever Young entrepreneurs EB.

[SILENTMAX]

II

hi there this thread started as a way for young entrepreneurs to help each other and share ideas we are all inexperienced in some areas and have greater know-how in others
This thread was successful in helping a lot of individuals:
in business planing, business location, brainstorming ideas, permits, and general questions.
I want us to take it a step further by forming a Mobile Young Entrepreneurs group.

sometimes i have second thoughts about things. stupid questions about other things and sometimes just need to bounce of ideas of others And i cant get on the net. sometimes there no one to turn to. and u feel like ur all alone in ur business. ( i know most do, as they say being an entrepreneur is one of the most loneliests jobs)

Solution?

Mobile Young Entrepreneurs group ( a group of Young(yes older generations can join we need everybodies help) Entrepreneurs that are connected via mobile phones exchanging messages via sms(txt).


this will help our group better achieve our goals.
the following are the possible benifits

-instant replies
-immediate answeres to possible problems that our rambling in your head
-some one to lean on or talk to when problems arise in your business
-sharing ideas and just someone to chat with that could be of help
-having other people to txt with enables us to have other opinions about our ideas/dilemmas(we dont really need to take it but this gives us an option)
-problems with employees? txt a mye friend and have an idea on how to deal with the situation that the friend may have erlier ecountered
-problems with the permits? txt any of the mye friends to know at least what is needed in aquiring it.
-there are tons of other information that we could share but we need each others cooperation and general maturity on handling this. (helping others find their way sometimes offer a greater satisfaction than generating profits)
-and the best benifit of all...... making a friend

i know this might be a longshot but if we could only form at least 5 or more people this group network could really be of help

to start the ball rolling i will give my cell number
anybody interested in joining just txt me with ur name and ur msg of intention to join

MY NUMBER (Currently edited for privacy ) check ur PM's
my cell number is there
(pls no spam/special offers or forwarded msg's)

there is a requirement though and it is just one.

when u txt me with ur intent to join u must also want to help others this means that ur number must be also available to other mye friends and u can also be asked questions on anything under the sun. so its always a two way street.

i hope that we can form something great.



ps for any questions just PM me and i will try to get to u as soon as possible

[velocity000]

I suggest u screen the people that will join your core group coz not everybody can be a good adviser, nor can be friend, nor can be a biz partner. Beware of conmen. Better start with your circle of friend.

[SILENTMAX]

you have a good point there

statement duly noted

[SILENTMAX]

and getting back to a previous subject

anung business ang maganda for 2003?

[m4ppych4n]

Hi All,

M really interested in talking biz. When is the next EB for the month of Dec?As in, gusto ko na talga mag-biz and I have some ideas in mind...pero ewan ko kung gaano ka feasible...anyway, please let me know.

thanks and hope to see an EB date posted here soon!

ciao!:)

[SILENTMAX]

hi there m4ppych4n
welcome to the thread!!! :)


business for 2003:

ive recently observed a relativiely new business which is going the way of the lechon manok and the counter strike pfenomenon......... its the car wash. i have noticed them sprouting up everywhere it seems that they make good money with what they have. i did a little bit of studying and heres what i found out

-low barrier of entry 15k-30k gets you a complete business
-overhead is low. water/cleaning materials/manpower
the overhead is low becouse you only use up resoures when actually cleaning and pay your emplyees only with the amount of cars they have washed
-location: needs to be in a mid to high traffic area. but the good news since you only need a flat space rent is low considering u dont need a building. just setup a tent(trapal) and ur own ur way

have interviewed a couple of owners they really havent given me exact figureds on their earnings but observing their business they are making money.

-no definite leader: their is not one name brand car wash franchise that has stood out. which is a good thing for anybody wanting to start a car wash business since you have a level playing ground to start with.

-a spinoff of this business which has a unique customer base of its own is car detailing. Meguirs detailing and other detailing shops caters to the upper market with a little more money to burn using of all things as toothbrushes to hyper clean your car. what you end up with is a car almost right off the showroom.

in anycase hth :)

[velocity000]

good keep posting.

Let's try to look at opportunities in the eyes of a tycoon. I mean find opportunities that other people failed to see. Look for problems we can solve and make money in the process. Keep sharing. :)

[m4ppych4n]

Hi Silent Max,

Thanks for the welcome. Anyway, i may also be planning to set up a prawn farm as well. It has been on my mind since early this year, anyway...as soon as an EB date is posted, I hope you can update me on your biz plans of your prawn farm. I also have a good background of the biz but not much on the tech/operations side.

I also have another biz idea in mind but I just want to wait for the EB before really discussing it with ppl who are bent on having their own biz as well.

Thanks again.

[cbc22]

Hi,

Patulong naman oh. :D I'm thinking of buying something sa Pinas, tapos balak kong ibenta sa eBay.

Ang mga naisip ko ng mga bagay na pwede ay yung lumang collection ko ng comic books, o posters or even rare CDs. Kung meron pa sana kayong maisip, mas ok. Mas maganda lalo kung may alam kayong pwedeng distributor o source ng mga ito.

Salamat ng marami. :D

[BaLdoMarO]

SILENTMAX
your mobile entrepreneurs group idea sounds good...very feasible indeed, though, I think that the head honchos should have strong business acumen, foresight and good all round business skills. This will be a fantastic way to pool our ideas, resources and contacts. If we want to succeed in our respective businesses we have to establish a strong foundation of business networks that would support us, especially in dire and grim circumstances.

[SILENTMAX]

the point of this was for an alternative to pinoyexchange. which seams to be painfully slow this time.

to all the people who txted i have ur numbers will be sending out msg's soon(indexing)

[geekhead]

guys! I'm just a newbie here and i plan to go into business for added income and for my future na din. Kasi me and my gf are planning to get married next year and my salary isn't enough for the both of us pos may babay na din na on the way.:) Before i borrowed like 200T sa dad ko for my buy n sell ng cars but it didn't work out.:( Right now i plan to borrow money from my dad AGAIN pero this time balak ko mga 10-30T lang. What type of business can you suggest guys kasi yung iniisip ko na tipog fish balls, and squid balls di ata mabenta. Hope you could help me a starting entrepreneur have the attitude and the tools to survive in the real world. Thanks!:)

[marlo_kalbo]

Originally posted by SILENTMAX

-low barrier of entry 15k-30k gets you a complete business



Low barrier of entry means competition. So if anyone (I am) is interested in this business they better act fast, earn money and get out of the business before it reaches the point of diminishing returns.

Question: What things are covered by the 15k-30k investment?


-marlo

[SILENTMAX]

pareng marlo i'll leave it to you to find out. adventure mo na yan pare and to help u find out if its really feasible.... dont trust me find out for urself.

but generaly here are the things you will need

-permit
-place
-equipment
-consumables
-employee wage for at least a month( i prefer 3-6)
(use this as ur buffer)

[b_9904]

hey guys, just drop by... i own my own business... m into marketing household items.

[Archimedes]

Hey guys who wants here to form an IT software startup company.So freelancers, or any IT professionals who would want to join the company just post here. Those who have their small IT startup company are also welcome to join. There are lots of benefits and opportunities in IT, and we should take advantage of them.

I envision that this company would not only be a philippine company but would also be a world class IT company rivaling those of India. I believe we have the potential to make a difference. ACT NOW

Let's make our own destiny!!!

post here cool:

[velocity000]

Originally posted by Archimedes
Hey guys who wants here to form an IT software startup company.So freelancers, or any IT professionals who would want to join the company just post here. Those who have their small IT startup company are also welcome to join. There are lots of benefits and opportunities in IT, and we should take advantage of them.

I envision that this company would not only be a philippine company but would also be a world class IT company rivaling those of India. I believe we have the potential to make a difference. ACT NOW

Let's make our own destiny!!!

post here cool:



What kind of software do u intend to develop?

[b_9904]

geekhead:

this is corny but this will make you a succesful entreprenuer...

TOOLS:

FAILURE MY FRIEND is the only tool you will ever need... bec. wid failure you will learn new things... remember its not how many times you fall down but how many times you get up!

some things that will help you succeed:
1. plan ahead
2. take action...work!!!
3. analyze the result of your work (daily/monthly/yearly)
4. adjust (if the result is- you adjust your plan, means of execution, etc, etc... basta ADAPT, if the result is + llok for ways to make it more +)

btw, im a forever living drop out... so any of you guys wanna what attitudes you need, tools, and everything...join for atleast a yr...meaning be active! but dont take my word for it...try mo!

archimedes:

GO dude!!! there is safety in numbers...sana magsuceed ka nga!!!

merry xmas and happy new yr to everybody!!!

[SILENTMAX]

interesting qoute.

The artist(entrepreneur) is nothing without the gift,

but the gift is nothing without the work.




____________________________________

join the young Entrepreneurs SMS ring
Pm me for details....

[Archimedes]

Originally posted by velocity000




What kind of software do u intend to develop?


We first plan to put up a web development firm first as our first business before going into the customized software biz. Why? are you also knowledgeable about software?

[velocity000]

Merry christmas and prosperous new year to all of us. Hope next year will be a breakthrough year to all entrepreneurs. :D

[SILENTMAX]

merry christmass to all and to all ahappy new year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



another edition of "qoutes of the day"

No idea is original there is nothing new under the sun Its never what you do but how its done -NAS

[mupheza]

Originally posted by Archimedes



We first plan to put up a web development firm first as our first business before going into the customized software biz. Why? are you also knowledgeable about software?


IMHO, the field of web development is saturated already. Too much competetion. You have to differentiate from all these software vendors.

To be successful in this field, you must keep in mind that software development skills are not the only ingredient, you need reliable marketing staffs too. You need contacts to sell the products/services to your clients.

If you ever need freelance developers in VB/.NET/Java/J2EE, pls contact me. mupheza@yahoo.com!

Wish you good health & more wealth this coming 2003!

[SILENTMAX]

Business brightspots for the upcoming year ahead

stylish weddings
any wedding related business seems to be upbeat for the coming year ahead

Beuty parlors

call centers

pawnshop/lending

spas/wellness centers

[velocity000]

Here's what I believe a lucrative biz for 2003

1. Car repair shop that specializes in pollution control.
2. Security services for VIP.
3. Business consulting (specially for small and medium entreprise)
4. Visa consulting business.
5. Nursing school or caregiver school.

Keep posting. Happy new year. :)

[SILENTMAX]

new trends:

one of my sidelines is electronic toys so i thought to share you with this new trend like the past hits(tamagotchi tamiya pokemon and others)

i heard about this a couple of months ago 2-3 to be exact it was a hit in hongkong and singapore didnt really know it was also going to be popular here. hmmm procastinated (now its in the early mid spike popularity curve)

if anybody has 10k-30k i suggest u act quick go to ur nearest friendly neighborhood divisoria wholesaler

its called beyblades

theres already imitations of it so i hope u try and get the originals and expose it to ur clients then have tournaments and such to expose more potential customers.


been seeing a lot of kids buying it and more interested in it
the avg range is elementary and some colege students





now go and make money :)

[art727]

:cool: SILENTMAX; binabasa ko ang thread na ito at talaga namang napakaganda ng mga topic ninyo..alam ninyo dapat mapabilang ka sa TOYM (Ten Outstanding Young Men) sa Philippines dahil sa pasimuno mong ganito at dapat mayroon ding TOYW (for women) naman...
Btw..mayroon lang akong isang tanong na hindi nabanggit dito..kasi ang Uncle ko ay nagumpisa ng isang maliliit na business at ang mga ito ay Mini-Donuts (Orbits) gumagawa ng maliliit na donuts (actually ang Uncle ko ang Original nito sa Pinas) at siguro nabalitaan mo ito! At nag-mushroom ito sa may crossing sa Shaw.

Kaya lang mayroong isang may pera diyan na nakita ang balutan(container) ng Mini-Donuts ng Uncle ko, at pumunta ang taong ito sa Tate ay bumili ng marami at ginawang Franchise..at pinagbabayad ang uncle ko ng franchise fee, samantalang siya ang originator ng business...Tanong ko SILENTMAX! cover ba ang machine ng uncle ko ng Franchise nila? o he can operate on his own?...thanks SM!! ps..isinarado na niya at nasa kanya pa ang machine kung may interesado ibebenta niya or for rent or for lease ang mga kagamitan...pm..me..interested party lang pls.. btw..I complain to the company here in Minnesota..at sinabi sa akin na..you own that machine and he doesn't have any control about your business..and to get out of trouble, the sales manager told my uncle to just scratch the logo..and continue my uncle business, now what is the law in Philippines about this..to enlighten who would fall into this same mess. thanks geyn!

[art727]

:cool: Isa pa!..SILENTMAX, nagtayo uli siya ng isa pang business na Video Rentals at itinayo niya ito sa Katipunan road duon sa loob ng Mini-golf duon..ang tanong ko maganda pa ba ring business ito ganoong makakalaban mo ay mga pirata? Kasi ang kanyang mga video movies ay lahat originals galing dito sa states bago ang kumumpitensiya sa kanya ang ACA video rentals na bago pa lamang sumisikat noon, at puro duplicates ang kanilang movies(copies)...Tanong ko SILENTMAX!, legit ba ang pagkokopya nila?...kasi tinanong ko ang kinukunan ng Uncle ko ng mga movies sabi nila...It's impossible they will be allowed to acquired rights, kasi it is a million dollars income here if you can get those rights!..sa states itong sinasabi niya ha!..so how they acquired those? My uncle applied the right to distributes videos and rentals, pinahirapan siya ng VIDEOGRAM REGULATORY BOARD,. samantalang kumpleto ang kanyang papeles..ang nangyari isinarado niya..Ang Video Rental ng uncle ko ay isa sa pinakamaganda noon sa Katipunan road...Sayang! kung wala sanang palakasan..at talagang paiiralin ang competitions nakatayo pa sana ang business ng uncle ko...note: interested party who wants to rent old original movies or lease..pm me!

[art727]

:cool: napuna ko rin na maraming taga rito sa amerika ang gustong mag-business ang masasabi ko lang ay ito..as lesson na nangyari sa uncle ko...

A) hanggat maari huwag kang kukuha ng mga relatives mo as empleyado mo..
Bakit kamo?..kasi halimbawa mga pamangkin mo (gaya ng isang nabasa ko dito) very relax sila sa pagtatatrabaho, at dahilan nga sa kamag-anak nga nila ang may-ari..Isa pa! halimbawa dumispalko sa iyo ng malaing kuwarta, siyempre ipapakulong mo ba ang pinsan mo na anak ng uncle mo? kakahiya diba?

SILENTMAX!..bigay ka naman ng TIPS kung paano malalaman mo ang magiging empleyado mo ay mapagkakatiwalaan? paano mo sila maii-screen, at kumusta na ang mga empleyado mo? Ano ang mga strick rules na pina-aala-ala mo sa knila na subject to firing and possible lost of their job...and to make it worse if you can't avoid due to the severety of the offense..."JAIL TIME!"

I will contribute the business in 2003...coming soon..

[art727]

:cool:SILENTMAX...you take care of the business sides and I will take care the Effective Communications to (people) customers, like interpersonal problems, basic principles of employee /owner relationship..emotion things like emphaty,rapport,valuing people,and to understand them..satisfying customers is one reason why business thrives to go forward..


Dr.Albert Mehrabian, a UCLA professor, once researched communication effectiveness to customers..
a. 7% depends on the words we say
b. 38% depends on how we say words at them.
c. 55% depends on nonverbals-such as body language and gestures.

Fascinating, isn't it?
Think about this and it adds a whole new dimension in understanding (why some of them lost their customers) What effective communication is all about..

Kasi! napuna ko nga diyan sa mga establishments sa Pinas sinusundan ka ng kanilang mga mata habang nag-bro-browse ka ng bibilhin...kung ipapakita mo ang ganoon..maniwala kayo o hindi talagang nakaka-IRITA!..that's a lesson #1..a NO!NO! attitude..to add..pati sekyu! kung makatingin...if you will continue the pattern..then treat all of them as "SHOPLIFTERS!" sometimes believe it or not the one who looks very KAGALANG-GALANG! are the ones who does it.."remember that actress Winonna Ryder?"

[SILENTMAX]

Originally posted by art727
:cool: SILENTMAX; binabasa ko ang thread na ito at talaga namang napakaganda ng mga topic ninyo..alam ninyo dapat mapabilang ka sa TOYM (Ten Outstanding Young Men) sa Philippines dahil sa pasimuno mong ganito at dapat mayroon ding TOYW (for women) naman...
Btw..mayroon lang akong isang tanong na hindi nabanggit dito..kasi ang Uncle ko ay nagumpisa ng isang maliliit na business at ang mga ito ay Mini-Donuts (Orbits) gumagawa ng maliliit na donuts (actually ang Uncle ko ang Original nito sa Pinas) at siguro nabalitaan mo ito! At nag-mushroom ito sa may crossing sa Shaw.

Kaya lang mayroong isang may pera diyan na nakita ang balutan(container) ng Mini-Donuts ng Uncle ko, at pumunta ang taong ito sa Tate ay bumili ng marami at ginawang Franchise..at pinagbabayad ang uncle ko ng franchise fee, samantalang siya ang originator ng business...Tanong ko SILENTMAX! cover ba ang machine ng uncle ko ng Franchise nila? o he can operate on his own?...thanks SM!! ps..isinarado na niya at nasa kanya pa ang machine kung may interesado ibebenta niya or for rent or for lease ang mga kagamitan...pm..me..interested party lang pls.. btw..I complain to the company here in Minnesota..at sinabi sa akin na..you own that machine and he doesn't have any control about your business..and to get out of trouble, the sales manager told my uncle to just scratch the logo..and continue my uncle business, now what is the law in Philippines about this..to enlighten who would fall into this same mess. thanks geyn!


napatulala ako dito :)

if i understand this correctly and i'd like to think that i do :D

your uncle started a mini donut machine business?
somebody replicated it in the states and is now bringing the franchise business here?


does he have patents on the machine or the container?
if he doesnt palitan nalang nya yung pangalan.
malamang the rights to the mini donuts have been patented in the states it sucks but he who has the patents owns the business
(just ask sony(playstation) who just lost a case against nintendo(million dollar settlement))

[SILENTMAX]

Originally posted by art727
:cool: Isa pa!..SILENTMAX, nagtayo uli siya ng isa pang business na Video Rentals at itinayo niya ito sa Katipunan road duon sa loob ng Mini-golf duon..ang tanong ko maganda pa ba ring business ito ganoong makakalaban mo ay mga pirata? Kasi ang kanyang mga video movies ay lahat originals galing dito sa states bago ang kumumpitensiya sa kanya ang ACA video rentals na bago pa lamang sumisikat noon, at puro duplicates ang kanilang movies(copies)...Tanong ko SILENTMAX!, legit ba ang pagkokopya nila?...kasi tinanong ko ang kinukunan ng Uncle ko ng mga movies sabi nila...It's impossible they will be allowed to acquired rights, kasi it is a million dollars income here if you can get those rights!..sa states itong sinasabi niya ha!..so how they acquired those? My uncle applied the right to distributes videos and rentals, pinahirapan siya ng VIDEOGRAM REGULATORY BOARD,. samantalang kumpleto ang kanyang papeles..ang nangyari isinarado niya..Ang Video Rental ng uncle ko ay isa sa pinakamaganda noon sa Katipunan road...Sayang! kung wala sanang palakasan..at talagang paiiralin ang competitions nakatayo pa sana ang business ng uncle ko...note: interested party who wants to rent old original movies or lease..pm me!



as far as i know
aca has originals only

maybe when they started they used copies but this was when piracy was not being policed.
anti-piracy is now being practiced here in the philiphines ive noticed it start a year ago and has been progressing


aca is registered with the videogram regulatory board therefore they would loose their liscence if they copied their videos


on a side note

dvd is fast become popular here as an alternative to vcd but vcd still remains to be the popular format. this was due to piracy and cheap vcd players


vcd players 1000-2000
dvd players 3000-4500 or 10k-30k for high end stuf but in the philiphines who would buy that?

story from my dad(actualy a conversation between us)

anak: tay bakit yung mumurahin na washing machine ang binili natin 3k(plastic washing machines made in china currently a hit among the masa)

tatay: kasi anak bakit tayo bibili nang washing machine na 30k-50k na katulad sa duty free eh ok naman yang washing machine na yan mura na nakaka linis naman. kung masisira sya eh di bibili nalang tayo nang bago. eh kung nasira yung mahal na washing machine eh di i papa ayos pa natin.
___________________________________________________

its amazing that the filipino public is accepting the washing machine

[art727]

:cool: No! SILENTMAX, my uncle purchased that machine called "Lil' ORBITS" somewhere in Minnesota a big company who manufactured those mini-donut machines..He did not invented the machine, Oh! no! , he bought it! and brought four of them machines to the Philippines, purpose?, so he can help my nieces and nephews to learned and to have some responsiblilites, and this is by letting them to run a small business . As I said, it was doing fine! money was pouring!., Patok! na Patok!.until this one guy( a lawyer?) who had money, went to Minnesota and bought a lots of these machine..shipped to P.I. and applied to franchise these donut machines.. That same year my uncle held a title as sole distributors of the Donut machine in the country, the company in Minnesota knew about it..What they don't know about is the planned of this guy. He applied to franchise these Minnesotas Donut machine, their own products in the Philippines. See! that's the problem with the franchise board there!, they don't investigate if the product is a franchised item or not or the company knew about it or will even allow it.! This is why we complained to the company and herer what they say.."They told us that their product is not, for a franchised and will not intend to! It also add; "I guess they can do these things in the Philippines without asking us?" my uncle was still recognized as the distrubutor in the Philippines!...btw!..the guy's application to franchise board was approved and this is when the whole mess started, he told our workers they cannot operate anymore, he is trying to swallow that small business, instead of paying franchise fee, my uncle decided to just closed the business ..the Minnesota company told my uncle that they were very sorry, but told us to just get rid of the logo and continue our operation..My uncle did not! this is when some of the genius pinoy copied it(the machine!)..and Wow! it was nice..I can't believed after I saw one of them, It looks original!It was a great replica of the machine!

SILENTMAX!!!..Don't you think it was the same thing in MCdonald Hamburger?..There's only one Franchise company of MCdonald it was located and based here in the U.S!., I don't have any idea...how can they formed another FRANCHISE in the Philippines? and keep the proceeds?...Can anybody do the same?, Let's say I purchase a JOLIBEE in the Philippines, a grant to operate here in the U.S..."Is it Ok for me to franchise and sell JOLIBEE here and keep the proceeds? Is that the way it is happening now in Philippines to MCdonald? Buy it here in the U.S.! and Franchise it there in the Philippines? no matter what the mother(original) company says!"

SILENTMAX!..This is the scenario my uncle told them.."Look,If we agree and join that franchise of his in the Philippines, Are you willing to pay any amount to one of our customers if so happen if they got sick and died because of your end product?, as the manufacturer of the machine, are you willing to cough up millions of dollar if I got sued and lost my case?" just like other franchisers used to in paying a numbers of complainant here in the U.S.? At this question... We got them cornered and told us immediately that they will call long distance to Philippines to informed the guy not to bother my uncle, and let him operate the machine. SILENTMAX!..I hope this guy was reading this thread..and others who are about to franchise some products in the future...

[SILENTMAX]

im sorry to have had mis understood


if you buy a master franchise of jollibe here to have it granted a us location then yes you can have all the proceeds you want regardless of what jolibee says

although you will be paying a master franchisee fee.
this is one way of jollibe's plan of opm (other peoples money)

this works.


on your mini donuts
i sugest that you just get a lawyer and drag that guy into court and just have a legal battle. its better and gives you time to plan out things.
if you want a simple alternative. just scratch out the name or add another letter. this also works.
if the guy persists to harras you into his franchise again same as above just sue him for harrasment


alas the justice system of the philiphines currently sucks and dont expect anything to happen anytime soon or within the next 10 years becouse its that slow. use our justice system for delay tactics only.


its sad that your uncle withdrew as i have seen those mini donuts do well.

another alternative for his nephew is just to purchase a franchise of potatoe corner. cost is 150k all in. roi in 2 years.(just a suggestion)



disclaimer:

i do not know all or most or none at all about business stuff. for me this is just a hobby i just re dispense things that i have heard/read about and what i say should not be taken as the end all word. you should also ask others.
i am only human and i could be wrong :)


but then again isnt it cool that your earning your living doing the things that you love?

[himura_kaoru]

I dont own the business, but I'm helping out my mom.

My mom's into bread and cake productions in Alabang Muntinlupa. We're looking for companies, canteens or cafes who need regular suppliers of cakes or other pastries. I'm planning on starting my own business within this year, so even though I'm still working full-time, I help out my mom as much as I can during my free time. I get to learn more about sales and marketing aside from the operations aspect of business from helping her. If anyone is interested or knows someone who is, please pm me and I will reply with the details asap. Thanks.

[SiOMs]

hi!

nakakatuwa naman at may thread pala na ganito dito sa PEx :) share ko lang din ha. kami ng sis ko nag-start ng maliit na business nung july '02. beaded accessories lang po ang business namin hindi kagaya nung mga IT, Car wash, etc business na kelangan ng malaking money para simulan. start up?below 5K. and after almost 6 months we hit the 6 digit mark. gulat nga din kami kasi hindi naman namin akalain. by the way, im 19 and my sis is 20. :) gusto din namin sumama sa eb, pero ano ba average age ng mga entrepreneurs dito? baka di kami maka-relate hehe.

p.s. to silentmax: that's a great idea, you putting up an Entrep Ring...parang support group *okay*

[SILENTMAX]

himura_kaoru

welcome to the thread :)

drop by often and ask away if you have any questions and if you can supply any answeres to the other poster's who have asked questions dont hasitate to post :)

[SILENTMAX]

Originally posted by SiOMs
hi!

nakakatuwa naman at may thread pala na ganito dito sa PEx share ko lang din ha. kami ng sis ko nag-start ng maliit na business nung july '02. beaded accessories lang po ang business namin hindi kagaya nung mga IT, Car wash, etc business na kelangan ng malaking money para simulan. start up?below 5K. and after almost 6 months we hit the 6 digit mark. gulat nga din kami kasi hindi naman namin akalain. by the way, im 19 and my sis is 20. gusto din namin sumama sa eb, pero ano ba average age ng mga entrepreneurs dito? baka di kami maka-relate hehe.

p.s. to silentmax: that's a great idea, you putting up an Entrep Ring...parang support group *okay*


hi there :)
were all young here :) kaya di ka ma out of place
im 22

you are never too young to start your own business and capital is never really an issue, (dont qoute me on this heheheheh :p ) whats more important is you like what your doing and your enjoying it at the same time

good job sa business nyo ive also read some about beads and they are perfect for bazaars i wish you two more power

ps.
i was a 2nd year highschool kid when i started in my basketball card business. i just saw a little spot in the glass showcase(for candies and chippy) in my mom's canteen to put my basketball cards for sale. who knew it would sell?


sometimes the least expected things are the ones that surprise you.

[fossil7]

im a new fan of young entrepreneurship. hope to learn more ideas from u brave guys... :D

[Cirque]

keep on posting you guys! *okay*

[toyota]

hi guys!

need some tips on how to put up a tiangge.
i have a business space (aprrox. 150 sq.m.) near jeep terminals, schools, banks.

thanks in advance.

[Johnny]

hi. i'm an entrepreneur myself, and i think it's great that you have this thread.

if you guys don't mind, i just want to promote the services i offer. if you know anyone who may be needing web design and development, contact me. you get 50% of what i make. we split it even.

i am an independent web consultant of one of the country's major audit firms. Here's a sample. (http://www.punongbayan-araullo.com) I prefer to do sites that require a lot of updating.

also... check out my thread at the Classifieds section. Look for the one entitled, KILIG VIDEOS, these are 5-10 min. videos to be shown during wedding receptions.

text me at 09176679418

[sapiro]

saan ba source (dito metro manila) ng
frozen PANGA, LAMAN & BUNTOT ng Tuna,
including price (pickup or delivered)

Guys:

sino may input sa ihaw-ihaw business. pa share naman...
thanks.


SILENT MAX:

have u visited the container van mall along araneta ave. qc,
ok ba or medyo may problema ang location
ok daw ang rent.

[izph]

hi there!!

hey guys this is a vry interesting thread...i didnt have tme 2 read arnd PEX a lot...well abt me i start arnd 19 or smething...i used 2 sell HS books in my country...kase my prices were lower and gud print ... i tried a lot of stuff...

ryt now im a prepaid internet card distributor in metro manila...i also sell sim,cell phne, other accessories bt nt always... btw im still studying 4th yr comp. engg... turning 21 ok...

you can start buz w/ the smallest possible capital and age doesnt matter its all about ur stand and u like what ur doing?

if any1 wanna venture into this buz or wanna buy discounted internet cards jst PM me or txt 09198706373

tnx a lot

[SILENTMAX]

yessss pex is back and so is
"YOUNG ENTREPRENEURS"

this is your DJ spining anybody want to make requests :)




sorry just bumping it up :D

[korni]

Does anybody here know anything about running a taxi business? Is it easy to get a taxi franchise these days? I need your input. Thanks.

[SILENTMAX]

im not sure about the taxi business

anybody knows the heads up on this?

ummm if you really want to start/bootstrap it why dont you purchase a taxi car with the taxiline already in it. just ask when the line will expire.

buy and sell usually have a couple of cars with a taxiline for sale. some at rockbottom prices

browse the sunday buliteen and check the classifieds theres usually some for sale.

[m4ppych4n]

Hi All...esp to those who'd be most knowledgeable with what i'll be posting below....


Can anyone give me an idea of the current market condition for businesses like seafood supplies, producing tiger prawns, crabs and milkfish? I'd like to have an idea of the current market state on this kind of business...


For those who are alrdy in the biz, can you please give me tips on prospective buyers and what to watch out for when getting into this kind of biz...


Thanks all!!!:)

[Kazz]

Originally posted by SILENTMAX
importing something

im currently studying this method

from what ive learned

-freight service
-broker

it seems you already have access to the place so all you need is a freighter service ummm i could give you the detailed paperwork neccesary pero medyo mahaba just pm me. if ur really interested in knowing

what is ur capital?
pls be adviced that medyo malaki ang kailangan mong kapital even if maliit lang na value ang product na i import mo it ay dahil sa
-taxes
-freight service
-pagod mo
-and did i say taxes tariffs already :)

hope this helps :



hi m currently studying abt importation can u send me the


detailed paperwork neccesary ? tnx :>

[diwata28]

profitable ba ang events-management business? we plan to put up one by next year, with a starting capital of 10k.

what do you think?

thanks

[kucha]

Hi guys! i'm new here:) . Pls help naman I need your inputs about franchising. My priority is food franchise. Any advice kung anong maganda franchise? May list na ako pero I need to study pa sa kanila kung ano ang mas ok.

Here are my list :

1. HenLin - francise fee is P300k
2. Potato Corner - francise fee is 200k
3. Binalot - franchise fee is 200k
4 Kowloon - franchise fee is 50k

guys, do you think profitable pa yung mga franchise na binangit ko? If you have more franchise na alam na ok pls post naman. My budget is between 500k to 700k all in na. Any suggestion sa place kung saan ok?

[SILENTMAX]

of the list only potatoe corner is on my radar :) unahan tayo :)

gosh 200 na franchise nya. when i asked about it dati sa conference 150 lang quote sakin.

price wise potatoe corner is a steal. at 150 ha. 200 seams a little bit steeper.

-all potatoe corners "i" "have" observed have made money.

[mickeyREN]

Archimedes: Hire me! I know a lot about software development, in fact, i am marketing my own now for mobile phones!

anyway guys, how about some support for an indie mobile developer? here are the details:

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-3 different views
-A counter for your free text messages
-and many more

Keep track of your calls! Call Counter will keep count of all your incoming and outgoing calls and shows your peak and off-peak calls duration. It also includes settings where you can configure the peak and off-peak time of your cellular network provider and their corresponding rates.

Features:
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-shows total cost for for your calls
-and many more

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thanks!!!

***i am also currently looking for a full-time job, here's my thread on the 'A Working Filipino' thread..., if anyone is interested to hire me... just drop me an email or something.

[SILENTMAX]

mickeyren:
i have observed that in software development only two branches are making money now here in the philiphines
-comercial software for business
-celfone software

good luck on your endevour i wish u all the best

btw pls pm me im interested as to the cost of the call/sms counter

i suggest you aproach the the two top celular providers and even sun cellular for a partnership in which you could charge the user for the use of your software. like for ringtones and mms

nix and the other pex creators are now into this line of business i suggest you "make kulit" them for insights in how you can break in to this arena

[SILENTMAX]

Originally posted by m4ppych4n
Hi All...esp to those who'd be most knowledgeable with what i'll be posting below....


Can anyone give me an idea of the current market condition for businesses like seafood supplies, producing tiger prawns, crabs and milkfish? I'd like to have an idea of the current market state on this kind of business...


For those who are alrdy in the biz, can you please give me tips on prospective buyers and what to watch out for when getting into this kind of biz...


Thanks all!!!:)

billion peso industry
good money
export posibilities especialy in japan where there is a high demand for tiger prawns

[SILENTMAX]

Originally posted by Kazz
hi m currently studying abt importation can u send me the


detailed paperwork neccesary ? tnx :>

i suggest you read the book

selling to the world: your fast and easy guide to exporting and importing
by l fargo wells available at national bookstores

"give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach a man how to fish and you feed him for a lifetime" -confucious

[summit012]

Originally posted by SILENTMAX
i suggest you read the book

selling to the world: your fast and easy guide to exporting and importing
by l fargo wells available at national bookstores

"give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach a man how to fish and you feed him for a lifetime" -confucious


how much is the book?

[sayuri_succubus]

Would anobody have any idea on how much is a second hand printing machine?

Any input will be appreciated. :)

[Totnak Boy]

The Asian Institute of Management, in its continuing effort to fuse Robert Kiyosaki concepts in its curriculum, is now holding professional Cashflow games this coming June 22 and 29, 2003.

You may have heard of Robert Kiyosaki's Cashflow board game through his Rich Dad Poor Dad series. But to those not familiar, it is a board game akin to Monopoly, but deals with more advanced topics such as business, stocks and real estate. More than anything, it lets players realize their money habits and their sense of business risk. The game is very educational as it prepares your mindset when you go out in the real world on your path to financial freedom.

We're privileged to have with us a professional cashflow mentor and trainor who flew in from indonesia to conduct the games at AIM.

He was previously an expat of a multinational company to both Malaysia and the Philippines, and has gone into business since.

He has since done several Rich Dad Poor Dad seminars and has conducted several cashflow games in Indonesian companies.

The games will be held on June 22 and 29 (Sundays) at the Concepcion Rm., 3rd Floor, ACCM Bldg, AIM Campus, Paseo de Roxas, Makati, from 8AM to 12NN.

Tickets are at P500 per session (early bird rate at P350 until June 14), snacks included.

Tickets are available through me, contact me at 0919-3813085 for details.

This is a limited seating engagement; contact me for reservations.

Hope to see everyone there!

P.S. SILENTMAX--dude, if you still have that voucher for a free game, you can avail of a session for free :)

[anne]

Originally posted by almonds101
Wow, im glad somebody thought of putting up a thread like this Its really very informative. :)
I just graduated last march actually, and im now working as an analyst (systems analyst) in an IT company in ortigas(though im not really an IT person). But i really plan to go into business a year or a few months from now. Siguro medyo na-impluwensiyahan na rin kasi ako coz my parents are businesspeople --they're in the garments and real estate industry. But my bf is in the food biz. 2 months pa lang business niya but its doing pretty well.

So tanong lang.... my bf is planning to expand his biz. Planning stage pa lang talaga but his long-term goal is to have his biz franchised. a few months from now, he and I might put up a 2nd branch(partnership...para hati kami sa pag-generate ng capital)....and then we'll research more abt going into franchising. Do u think it would be ok for me to go into business after 6 months or so of working in the corporate world.....or mahirap pa coz im just a fresh grad? ;)

Im really interested to go into business na but my parents say its lonely to be a business person unlike pag sa ofice, may officemates...marami ma-mi-meet, etc.....so they want me to work in an office ---bf ko na lang daw pumasok sa business-wag na ako. If anything is stopping me or discouraging me.....its my parents, feeling ko medyo walang tiwala rin that il succeed in business (for whatever reason i dont understand)

You've mentioned that your parents are business people and that they are into garments. May family biz din kami textile factory. Yung tela namin pang t-shirts. ok lang ba if we make business with your parents?

[marlo_kalbo]

Originally posted by SILENTMAX
mickeyren:
i have observed that in software development only two branches are making money now here in the philiphines
-comercial software for business
-celfone software



Grabe, parang alam mo lahat ng industry ah. Yan lang talaga ang kumikita ngayon, as in rolling businesses sa software, ** sa Pinas at least.

-marlo

[SILENTMAX]

Grabe, parang alam mo lahat ng industry ah. Yan lang talaga ang kumikita ngayon, as in rolling businesses sa software, ** sa Pinas at least.

pare naman. :) i dont, it was just my observation. im in the it field becouse of my course which is com sci i just veered of into another field becouse its(business) what really interests me more

[SILENTMAX]

Originally posted by sayuri_succubus
Would anobody have any idea on how much is a second hand printing machine?

Any input will be appreciated. :)

second hand printing machine?
offset printing? for media advertisements? for newspapers?
for gloss printing? item printer(such as the ones used to print ballpens?

there was a graphics expo last june 4-7 sayang should have posted sooner :) rami dun printers

generaly offset printers range from 50k-400k

[marlo_kalbo]

Hehehe OK. Ako rin CS, pero mas interesado ako sa business. Kelan ko lang narealize. :(

BTW, does anyone here know how much a Gas Station nets per month?

-marlo

[SILENTMAX]

gas stations
recently featured on entrepreneur magazine

5m-10m and above startup


i'll ask around for monthly gross

i'm also studying this as of the moment actualy been doin a feasibility study of it for the past 2 years. still capital is of the main issue unless you go for zenergex

[marlo_kalbo]

Abot kaya yan ng 500k/month?

-marlo

[sayuri_succubus]

http://www.desireemendoza.com/smileys/samurai.gif

Originally posted by SILENTMAX
second hand printing machine?
offset printing? for media advertisements? for newspapers?
for gloss printing? item printer(such as the ones used to print ballpens?

there was a graphics expo last june 4-7 sayang should have posted sooner :) rami dun printers

generaly offset printers range from 50k-400k

Thanks Silent Max! A friend informed me there will be an exhibit by Printers Association of the Philippines sometime September. :)

Medyo kasi focused sa desktop at outdoor printing yun sa Phil. Graphic Expo

[missywitchy]

HELP!!!

I own a computer rental shop and recently opened a school supplies shop. My problem is this.... I need info. on where I could procure bond paper and copy paper . Nalibot ko na ang Divisoria pero lahat halos ng price nila ay halos kapantay na ng National Bookstore. Kung meron kayong alam I would really appreciate it if you can give me any infos.

Since small time lang ako. Yung pwedeng bumili ng per box lang. Saka kung pwede yung below 100 ang price per ream.

Thanks a lot.

p.s kung mayroon din kayong alam na reliable supplier ng iba pang school supplies ok rin if you can send me infos.

Lastly, meron ako friend na gusto bumili ng mga China made na Louis Vitton bags, Gucci etc. kung meron kayo mairerekomenda na supplier. Pambebenta nya rin ito.

Thankx!!!:)

[korni]

Originally posted by marlo_kalbo
Hehehe OK. Ako rin CS, pero mas interesado ako sa business. Kelan ko lang narealize. :(

BTW, does anyone here know how much a Gas Station nets per month?

-marlo

Interesado rin ako malaman ano ang net per month ng Gas Station. Kaso lang malaki ang kailangang capital for this type of business. Hopefully somebody here can give us some insights about this biz.

[SILENTMAX]

ok did some calculations these are just posibilites though
from entrepreneur magazine:
big gas stations require a minimum of p150,000 worth of gas inventory for a single day

also stated that avg take of big gas stations per litter is .40 to .80 cents

avg gas now is 20 pesos per liter

150k / 20 per liter avg price of gas = 7500 *.40 cents = 3000 a day x 1 month = 93000 a month net

take note this is set at a minimum which is not that bad

as always i have a b#lsh*t filter when doing this kinds of calculations so i make it always a point to get the lowest amount posible and then go from there.


90k a month 10m capital so at worst you have an roi of 9 years. but at least you are still at a positive.

id rather work 9 years of my life knowing at that end of 9 years i would get to have my very own gas station. than being an employee working 9 years and ending up with gold watch

personaly i think with a good location an roi of 3 years is posible

[korni]

Silentmax, ang galing mo talaga pag dating sa business. Ang rami mong alam. :)

Isa pang tanong... Madali lang ba kumuha ng franchise? Magkano naman ang franchise fees?

Ang 9 year ROI mo ay based on selling gasoline only. Pwede ring magtayo ng service center, rent out parking space to taxi drivers, etc....

[SILENTMAX]

to find if you qualify you should write them a letter of intent. then they will asses your qualifications via an interview and asses if u have the financial capability/mentality to run a franchise of theirs

the 5m/10m capital already includes the franchise fee
whats interesting to note about this is back when gas companies was still not deregualized and the big 3 reigned. to set up a gas franchise one had to at least have 15-25m capital before they even entertain you. now with the new players total/eastern/avgas/zenergex the big 3 are easing with their franchises and doling them out to the less financialy capable(but the will to succede). will this be a a successful venture this cannot yet be known.


the 9 year roi is just a a balpark figure. of course you could have other services like oilchange/carwash/convenience store

keep in mind though that with the 5m-10m capital this would not include land :(





ah truely the best things in life are free
sent to me by a close friend :*) :

the greatest handicap .......................fear
most useless asset.............................pride
hardest thing to do............................to begin
the best day.......................................today
the greates mistake............................giving up



i fill my life with quotes and motivational/insipirationals sayings and a person who shares my passion of it is a true rare find.


excerpts from "motivational quotes"
selling is unique... it is the only field where one is paid to be rejected. To succeed, it takes a special person, but even the very best will get down occasionally. A salesperson once said: " I am like a storage battery constantly discharging energy, and unless i am recharged at frequent intervals, i soon run dry. "

thats what quotes/motivational/inspirational sayings are all about.
....... recharging batteries.

[marlo_kalbo]

Hindi kasama dun sa computations yung mga monthly costs like salary, water, electricity, maintenance costs, etc.

-marlo

[SILENTMAX]

tama!

:D

[SteadyBoy2k]

Teka brainstorm pa ako! Gusto ko talaga nang business ko.

Nung 13 ako, nagpapabili ako sa piloto kong relative nang Air Heads for $3 isang karton na may 60 pcs. Benta ko dati 5 pesos.. ang lakas sa kita! hehe! Pero ngayon, iba na, kelangan mag-brainstorm.

Ano ba pwede ko iconsider sa pagbrainstorm nang ideas? BTW, I'm a 19yr old college student(work part-time) in the USA w/ family in the Philippines.

[SteadyBoy2k]

For those in retail business with their own store, i suggest reading "The Science of Shopping" by Paco Underhill.
It's about retail do's and don't's and the mechanics of human shopping behaviour. Might give you an edge... :D

[dac]

The science of shopping by paco underhill is really a very good book about consumer behavior and how people behave inside a store and how they shop.

example. Boomerang effect happens when you enter a grocery store to buy milk or eggs. after buying it, you immediately head for the counter. so what they did was put the dairy section at the back of the store so you have to travel all the way across the store.

the more time you spend on the store will increase the probability of a compulsive buy. thus the delaying factor being used in the design layout of the store.


example 2: guys buying pants and shirts in a store will purchase the item if it fits them when they try it on. as simple as that.

women tend to go around several shops trying everything on before finally deciding on which item and store they want to buy it from.

mirrors can increase your sales cause buyers can immediately assess if clothes will lokk good on them.


and finally.... men are more likely to buy clothes when they are in the company of women. (meron kasi 2nd opinion) guaranteed buy.

[SteadyBoy2k]

... and women's shopping time get cut when they're with guys. :)

[SteadyBoy2k]

Today me and a friend brainstormed. One of my ideas is to raise meal/wax worms and then sell them. I think i jumped in w/o putting a lot of thought into it. Altough, i already have experience with them since i raised them when i was a kid for my fish. We headed out to pet-smart and got 50 wax worms for $3.99. Then went to Safe Way and got bran (4.99 X 2) and Honey 6.99. I already spent more or less $15.00!

Ok! So how can i make money of them? Where do i sell them when (if i'm successful) they reproduce? Do i talk to the owners?

[SteadyBoy2k]

If i want to make a survey for a product like home made lumpia or sago. What do i need to know? What questions do i need to ask?
Pls. give me info on conducting surveys.:D

[sayuri_succubus]

Philippine Business Fair 2003

http://www.philbiz2003.com

[SILENTMAX]

Originally posted by SteadyBoy2k
Today me and a friend brainstormed. One of my ideas is to raise meal/wax worms and then sell them. I think i jumped in w/o putting a lot of thought into it. Altough, i already have experience with them since i raised them when i was a kid for my fish. We headed out to pet-smart and got 50 wax worms for $3.99. Then went to Safe Way and got bran (4.99 X 2) and Honey 6.99. I already spent more or less $15.00!

Ok! So how can i make money of them? Where do i sell them when (if i'm successful) they reproduce? Do i talk to the owners?

i suggest you stalk your local fishponds/lakes for weekend fishermens. sell it as organic meal worms with hand outs on how your raised them.

keep a close watch for competetions and contests in fishing. these could yeild goldmines in attracting customers. it would help if you delivered and have a contact number so you could always be on call.

i know there are other uses for mealworms like petfood and delicacies. but id rather not touch on that and let the others help naman :)

[SILENTMAX]

Originally posted by marlo_kalbo
Hindi kasama dun sa computations yung mga monthly costs like salary, water, electricity, maintenance costs, etc.

-marlo

-salary per person minimum wage is 250(a day)x 5 man 31250
-security guard 1 night watch 12500 a month
water is 1500 a month
electricity is 15000 a month
misc 10k

31250
12500
1500
15000
---------

60250 over head

[karl184]

Hi guys! i'm new here . Pls help naman I need your inputs about franchising. My priority is food franchise. Any advice kung anong maganda franchise? May list na ako pero I need to study pa sa kanila kung ano ang mas ok.

Here are my list :

1. HenLin - francise fee is P300k
2. Potato Corner - francise fee is 200k
3. Binalot - franchise fee is 200k
4 Kowloon - franchise fee is 50k

guys, do you think profitable pa yung mga franchise na binangit ko? If you have more franchise na alam na ok pls post naman. My budget is between 500k to 700k all in na. Any suggestion sa place kung saan ok?

kucha,

i can suggest you a place.just txt me 1t 09168642511 or just leave your email ad.

tnx!!!

[karl184]

to kucha

rice in a box franchise for only 90 thou.they suggest or recommend places in schools,my cousin is curretly the pres. of school concessionare. She can help you out to have your franchise and instant place. They offer also installment basis.The good thing is she can put you in school na 100 percent na kikita esp now na may one vacant na place.try to contact her 09168642511 or email at shiesoliman@yahoo.com.Get that opportunity.sayanag bka mkuha yung plce.
tnx!!!:*)

[cereal_killer]

does anyone have any information on how to secure a US Bank account?

given the ff:

1. a filipino, living in the Philippines
2. with no US Federal tax number or US Social Security number.

and can be 100% managed online.

thanks.

cereal killer

[missywitchy]

Today I received a visit from some guy who said that he was connected with AMDG, the licensing arm of siera and Blizzard, the company that produced Counter Strike. So to make the long story short, he informed me of the renewed effort by Sierra to have all network gaming centers to use licensed software. The amount is 3,080 installment around 2500 per license (1 pc = 1 licence) kung cash.

My questions is this:

1. Meron ba ritong mga owners ng network gaming shops na pinuntahan na nila, regarding this.

2. What do you think, business wise.... mababawi ba.

3. Lastly, sabi nya using license software will enable me to join Phil. gamers Assoc. ,... ang tanong ko lang will joining this organization is enough assurance that we will be protected from unreasonable restrictions and unfair business practices in the future.


honestly, if I can afford it I would like all my softwares licensed. So I agreed and he is giving me enough time para naman wag maging mabigat ang pagbabayad ng license.

PS.

kasama sa package nila ( until June lang ito) ang ang War Craft III, Diablo II, and a couple more software games.

[sayuri_succubus]

Originally posted by missywitchy
Today I received a visit from some guy who said that he was connected with AMDG, the licensing arm of siera and Blizzard, the company that produced Counter Strike. So to make the long story short, he informed me of the renewed effort by Sierra to have all network gaming centers to use licensed software. The amount is 3,080 installment around 2500 per license (1 pc = 1 licence) kung cash.

My questions is this:

1. Meron ba ritong mga owners ng network gaming shops na pinuntahan na nila, regarding this.

2. What do you think, business wise.... mababawi ba.

3. Lastly, sabi nya using license software will enable me to join Phil. gamers Assoc. ,... ang tanong ko lang will joining this organization is enough assurance that we will be protected from unreasonable restrictions and unfair business practices in the future.


honestly, if I can afford it I would like all my softwares licensed. So I agreed and he is giving me enough time para naman wag maging mabigat ang pagbabayad ng license.

PS.

kasama sa package nila ( until June lang ito) ang ang War Craft III, Diablo II, and a couple more software games.

SILENTMAX, eto yun sinasabi ko sayo last Thursday.

misswitchy, ayan si silentmax ask mo sya, your in the same business

[SILENTMAX]

e-mail me at silentmax@hotmail.com for info re: amdg
:)

[Satoy]

Hello guys,

I opened a gaming center last February. I found a place near the gate of two subdivisions that I thought was not yet saturated with network gaming shops. The place is doing fairly well. I lost money for the first two months, but started earning since then. However, the shop earned the same amount during April and May, and looks like June too. At this rate, I'll only recover my investment in about four years or so.

Now a question. I still have some extra space in my shop. What else can I add or offer to increase my profits?

I acquired a ref and started selling softdrinks last april, and it looks good. Galing pala pampaikot ng pera ang softdrinks. The earning from selling softdrinks was enough to cover the entire electricty cost for the whole shop.

At oongapala, I have a full-time regular job, so that means I can't offer products or services that will require a lot of my time. I do the accounting and the payroll for my shop every Saturday. For the rest I have to depend on two employees who are both fairly competent with their computer skills.

I'm thinking of selling globe and smart prepaid cards even though there are many stores around us already selling them. I think the demand is high and consistent. Problem is: wala ako mahanap na supplier. Can anyone help me on this?

Thanks. I'd really appreciate it if you have any ideas what other products or services i could sell or distribute. I really enjoy my work and it really pays me well with a high salary and regular travel abroad, but hell, it feels good to run your own business.

More power to young Filipino entrepreneurs.

[marlo_kalbo]

I think your problem is trying to recover your investment.

Softdrinks is good. Always been.

Adding prepaid cards won't do you any good, unless you are willing to add more capital to your business.

Maybe decorating the place will attract more customers. If your place is more "game-like", then most likely players will be back in your shop. Have good lighting, sanitation, and just make the place comfortable for your customers. Caring for your customers goes along way.

You might also want to give discount coupons. An example will be to give a discount if a customer can bring in more customers not already in your membership list, or if he comes in a group of at least 8 or so.

And speaking of membership, have a membership list so you can have statistics of your customers.

Hope this helps you. :)
-marlo

[kucha]

Originally posted by karl184
Hi guys! i'm new here . Pls help naman I need your inputs about franchising. My priority is food franchise. Any advice kung anong maganda franchise? May list na ako pero I need to study pa sa kanila kung ano ang mas ok.

Here are my list :

1. HenLin - francise fee is P300k
2. Potato Corner - francise fee is 200k
3. Binalot - franchise fee is 200k
4 Kowloon - franchise fee is 50k

guys, do you think profitable pa yung mga franchise na binangit ko? If you have more franchise na alam na ok pls post naman. My budget is between 500k to 700k all in na. Any suggestion sa place kung saan ok?

kucha,

i can suggest you a place.just txt me 1t 09168642511 or just leave your email ad.

tnx!!!

thanks for the info, cge i will call her :)

[Skirt01]

this is really an inspiring thread.. keep it coming...

due to my desire to make both ends meet, i try to venture on buy and sell. bags for ladies. i buy the items in cash (todo tawad since i go for the wholesale price) then i sell them on installment basis sa office. i study the buying capabilities of my market. kaya i give the item on 2-3 installment. also i buy PX items (VS cologne and lotion) then sell them 3-4 gives. mabagal man, kumikita pa rin. at least ikot ang pera di ba?
at kakaenjoy ah



=========================
Rex Interactive (http://www.rexinteractive.com)

[Skirt01]

Originally posted by missywitchy
HELP!!!
p.s kung mayroon din kayong alam na reliable supplier ng iba pang school supplies ok rin if you can send me infos.


meron isang bodega sa Divisoria, tago lang kasi yung lugar eh. pero mura talaga siya. i-post ko next tym yung street ah alam ko puntahan pero di ko alam exact location eh. hehehe. if you buy your items by wholesale, mas ok


Lastly, meron ako friend na gusto bumili ng mga China made na Louis Vitton bags, Gucci etc. kung meron kayo mairerekomenda na supplier. Pambebenta nya rin ito.



ilan pieces ang gusto nya? pwede ko ibigay sa kanya in less price. i sell bags and wallets. she can check the China-made class A bags and wallets kung magkano ang benta sa greenhills and Tutuban, mura pa rin ang selling price ko.



===============
Rex Interactive (http://www.rexinteractive.com)

[missywitchy]

Skirt 01,

I will really appreciate the infos. (reg. school supplies) and regarding your offer. give me a quote and I will show it to my friend. Kahit i-pm mo na lang sa akin. From our last conversation gusto nya yata yung mga class A na bags.

[JETTO]

ei, may alam akong business mababa lang *** capital, and sure na kikita kayo basta masipag lang kayo and ur willing to learn... kung interested kayo pls email me at cycko_freak@hotmail .com...
hope to hear from u!

[summit012]

Originally posted by JETTO
ei, may alam akong business mababa lang *** capital, and sure na kikita kayo basta masipag lang kayo and ur willing to learn... kung interested kayo pls email me at cycko_freak@hotmail .com...
hope to hear from u!


Y not post the details here?

[JETTO]

im not posting kasi baka magkaroon kayo ng misconception about this business... if you're interested i can meet up with you and explain the marketing plan... it's comprehensive and easy to apply... hope to hear from you...:)

[boldon]

missywitchy:

pamco is a good place to buy cheap school supplies. it is a wholesale store located in nueva street and across carvajal street, in ongpin. i think a ream of bond paper costs around 88-90 (dating price to pero i don't buy in bulk kc), and the worksheet is cheaper by 4 pesos, if u buy a whole sheet, and cheaper pa if u buy 2 whole sheets or more. ballpens are likewise the same (per box naman to).

satoy:

d new eload by smart earns well at a minimal rate of investment (4 pesos earnings per 26 pesos invested). and so far, globe 100 had a rousing welcome. if u want, u can stock low on d 300's and concentrate on these two. selling ppd internet cards may also add to ur line (earnings hir r better than globe and smart). a friend of mine has a gaming biz din and asyd from d gaming and internet rentals, she offers printing and typing din, xerox and fax transmissions. sells ppd cards (globe, smart, isp, blast, pacific), beverages (softdrinks and juices), candies and junk foods (chippy and stuff). d reason y m telling u dis is because ur type of location and hers' r exactly d same (baka mas tago pa yung kanya), but all the same it's still full and people come and go (from i don't know where! kakatuwa di ba?) and to think people wud just come and play!
if ur not that far from me (tondo), maybe i can supply u wid d cards. or we can work something out. txt me 4 queries 09174391949

[izph1]

interested in internet cards any brands all other info jst txt me 09228004881 or mail iz_ph@yahoo.com

[fossil7]

missywatch, totoo ba yung claim ng AMDG guy for liscensing? parang walang nababalita tungkol dito?

boldon, could you give more info sa eload ng smart at globe 100. san pdeng makakuha neto?

[m4ppych4n]

<B>Hi all esp to SilentMaxx who may be able to help me...</B>

I will soon be embarking on an aquaculture biz...milkfish and prawn farming...i think there is a very good market for this...

Here are my questions to cross-check this biz:

1. what should i watch out in venturing into this kind of business?

2. are there any more tips you can suggest to me to help me in this kind of biz?


Will appreciate your answers on the questions i posted...i have also done some research on this biz and m quite excited na but it will always help to hear all your insights!

Thanks and hope to hear from you all...

:)

[darksyde]

Originally posted by Skirt01

i sell bags and wallets. she can check the China-made class A bags and wallets kung magkano ang benta sa greenhills and Tutuban, mura pa rin ang selling price ko.



Hi I told my gf that you were selling bags and wallets and she was interested. Can you send me a proposal at rcantor@sturmdogg.com . Thanks!

[velocity000]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JETTO
im not posting kasi baka magkaroon kayo ng misconception about this business... if you're interested i can meet up with you and explain the marketing plan... it's comprehensive and easy to apply... hope to hear from you...:) [/QUOTE


is this an mlm or networking biz? what products?

[SILENTMAX]

Originally posted by m4ppych4n
<B>Hi all esp to SilentMaxx who may be able to help me...</B>

I will soon be embarking on an aquaculture biz...milkfish and prawn farming...i think there is a very good market for this...

Here are my questions to cross-check this biz:

1. what should i watch out in venturing into this kind of business?

2. are there any more tips you can suggest to me to help me in this kind of biz?


Will appreciate your answers on the questions i posted...i have also done some research on this biz and m quite excited na but it will always help to hear all your insights!

Thanks and hope to hear from you all...

:)

try to contact aani and attend their seminars. they focus on agriculture/aquaculture

i just came from aani kanina attended their tilapia breeding seminar with mr guerrero "father of tilapia in the philiphines" it was a great seminar.

i can supply you with red tilapia and ulang(supplies pending)
i bootstraped my red tilapia hatchery hopefully i can generate the fry's. wish me luck

milkfish seems to be not in demand these days. but im preatty sure if you can grow it somebody will buy it.

[SILENTMAX]

Originally posted by velocity000
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JETTO
im not posting kasi baka magkaroon kayo ng misconception about this business... if you're interested i can meet up with you and explain the marketing plan... it's comprehensive and easy to apply... hope to hear from you...:) [/QUOTE


is this an mlm or networking biz? what products?

shneeky these people are hmmmm......

[missywitchy]

Boldon, thanks sa infos. reg. sa school supplies.

Re: AMDG

I checked the SEC and DTI websites and I didn't find their company name and P.N.G.A (the org. they were supposed to be organizing, composed of computer shops that uses only licensed software) so right now I have my doubts.

I've been to their website and it does exist (the website I mean! :-)....) But I don't believe that this is enough proof of the legality of their existence. Because anybody can put up a website. Even high school students can put up websites. So I am taking their claim with a grain of salt. And , I still would want some proof before I pay anything.

PS, thanks nga pala to SILENTMAX the additional info. and advice reg. this was really helpful.

[sayuri_succubus]

Originally posted by SILENTMAX
shneeky these people are hmmmm......

Do you smell MLM silentmax? :D

[sayuri_succubus]

Originally posted by missywitchy
Boldon, thanks sa infos. reg. sa school supplies.

Re: AMDG

I checked the SEC and DTI websites and I didn't find their company name and P.N.G.A (the org. they were supposed to be organizing, composed of computer shops that uses only licensed software) so right now I have my doubts.

I've been to their website and it does exist (the website I mean! :-)....) But I don't believe that this is enough proof of the legality of their existence. Because anybody can put up a website. Even high school students can put up websites. So I am taking their claim with a grain of salt. And , I still would want some proof before I pay anything.

PS, thanks nga pala to SILENTMAX the additional info. and advice reg. this was really helpful.

Hello misswitchy....nakita ko na yun email from my inbox na nagcirculate months ago about AMDG

The Blackmail of AMDG to earn easy buck!!!

Binlak-Mail na ba kayo ng grupo na'to ... punta kayo
sa congress meeting after holy week!!!


In case you dont know, AMDG is bullying all network
gaming shops in the Phils. They claim they are the
exclusive distributor of Sierra and Blizzard Products.
If you dont buy from them, they threaten to raid your
shops.
IF they are exclusive, how come there are more
branches of Datablitz in major malls than them.
http://amdg.net.ph

Now here's the reason why they threaten. They
definitely earn easy money in short span of time. View
the Sierra/Blizzard Pricing @
http://www.pbase.com/amdgphi

Given:

* CS OEM $2.00 Per PC (Order by P.O.)

* Warcraft III $200,000.00 for 20,000 licenses (1 Main
License + 19 Addl Licenses = 20 x 1000 units)
* Diablo 2 $100,000.00 for 20,000 licenses
* Starcraft $ 50,000.00 for 20,000 licenses
* Aliens vs. P $ 10,000.00 for 20,000 licenses
* Empire Earth $100,000.00 for 20,000 licenses

TOTAL $460,000.00


* Terms of both Agreement: Nov. 1, 2002 to Oct. 31,
2003.

* AMDG needs to sell licenses to 1,000
Cybercafes/Gaming Centers.

* AMDG markets P 2,500 / PC + 10% VAT (2 Games CS &
WARCRAFT + 4 FREE GAMES - dIABLO2, SC, Aliens, Empire)




Computation:

CS OEM (take note not Commercial Site License) $2.00 /
PC

Warcraft III ($200,000 / 20,000 licenses) $10.00 / PC
Diablo 2 ($100,000 / 20,000 licenses) $5.00 / PC
Starcraft ($50,000 / 20,000 licenses) $2.50 / PC
Aliens vs ($10,000 / 20,000 licenses) $0.50 / PC
Empire Earth ($100,000 / 20,000 licenses) $5.00 / PC

TOTAL $25.00 / PC
EXCHANGE RATE x 52
IN PESO = P 1,300.00


AMDG PRICE PER PC P 2,750.00
COST PER PC 1,300.00
NET PER PC 1,450.00




FOR EXAMPLE:

AMDG LICENSED ALL NETOPIA BRANCHES (60+ Branches +
average of 40 PC's each)


P 2,750.00 X 60 BRANCHES X 40 PC'S = 6,600,000.00
GROSS
P 1,450.00 x 60 BRANCHES x 40 PC's = 3,480,000.00 NET
BEFORE TAX

3.5M NET FOR 1 TRANSACTION ONLY! gOOd BUSINESS!!!


Take Note: What they are selling are also CS OEM
(for personal use not for commercial use)



For references:

http://www.congress.gov.ph/committees/commnews_det.php?newsid=735
http://www.pbase.com/amdgphi/amdg-vug_agreement_for_cs

[m4ppych4n]

thanks for giving me some insights abt the biz...do you have the contact number and address of AANI?

will appreciate it a lot so that i can also attend some of their seminars and see abt breeding either milkfish and prawns and crabs or if i shd start on tilapia along with prawns and crabs also...

thanks a lot!

:)

[missywitchy]

So are you saying that if I buy say,.... online.... or ask my sister to buy me individual license for each of my pc... mas makakamura pa ako... hmmmmmm.....

[SILENTMAX]

missywitchy

the software you buy at the stores are retail and cannot be used for comercial purposes, there are some instances where now according to the "eula" you could use retail software as in example of warcraft3

buying cs retail in datablitz does not entitile you to commercial liscencing of the software

sames as in windows :(

you need a comercial site "enterprise" liscence from microsoft.

[SILENTMAX]

Originally posted by sayuri_succubus
Do you smell MLM silentmax? :D

no comment
:D

[missywitchy]

I understand that..... but the question is this.... mayroon bang available na "enterprise" license ang mga pc games.... nagpunta ako sa website nila kangina .... the marketing is aimed at individual users...

[SILENTMAX]

meron this is what is being used in singapore states and other 1st world countries. this is what amdg is.

medyo off topic na tayo just e-mail me nalang :)

[SILENTMAX]

:)

a reason to smile
http://www.xboxaddict.com/images/comics/xbox_comic1.jpg


id like to meet this kid. :)

[Skirt01]

Originally posted by darksyde
Hi I told my gf that you were selling bags and wallets and she was interested. Can you send me a proposal at rcantor@sturmdogg.com . Thanks!


i think i already sent a reply to your email.

[marlo_kalbo]

If you don't want to pay business licences to Microsoft, you can use Linux and just run WINE, which emulates the NT environment. You can run you applications from there, although you will still need licenses for the applications, and it is alot more tricky than just running the applications under Windows.

:)

-marlo

[missywitchy]

Just want to correct myself.... AMDG is registered with SEC and DTI... it just turns out that the search feature (or whatever they are called) of DTI and SEC sucks big time.

[joben]

From Archimedes:
Hey guys who wants here to form an IT software startup company.So freelancers, or any IT professionals who would want to join the company just post here.

Whats the latest on this one? I'm interested. I've been an independent consultant/contractor for a while now. There are some projects I can't get into because I lack *resources* established IT shops have: people, business entity/representation. I'm also into development but have been involved mostly on the business process and design side.

[joben]

Just went through entire thread whew! :D

Keep on posting. SILENTMAX, Marlo, et al... you know who you are ;) thanks for all the insights, input, suggestions.

[Markus]

Misswithcy,
Have you tried Nueva Street in Binondo? Dyan ang bilihan ng mga offie supplies not Divisoria.

[missywitchy]

Originally posted by Markus
Misswithcy,
Have you tried Nueva Street in Binondo? Dyan ang bilihan ng mga offie supplies not Divisoria.


thanks for the info.... I will go there next time I purchase new stocks.

[majorbino]

Originally posted by Satoy
Hello guys,

I opened a gaming center last February. I found a place near the gate of two subdivisions that I thought was not yet saturated with network gaming shops. The place is doing fairly well. I lost money for the first two months, but started earning since then. However, the shop earned the same amount during April and May, and looks like June too. At this rate, I'll only recover my investment in about four years or so.

Now a question. I still have some extra space in my shop. What else can I add or offer to increase my profits?

I acquired a ref and started selling softdrinks last april, and it looks good. Galing pala pampaikot ng pera ang softdrinks. The earning from selling softdrinks was enough to cover the entire electricty cost for the whole shop.

At oongapala, I have a full-time regular job, so that means I can't offer products or services that will require a lot of my time. I do the accounting and the payroll for my shop every Saturday. For the rest I have to depend on two employees who are both fairly competent with their computer skills.

I'm thinking of selling globe and smart prepaid cards even though there are many stores around us already selling them. I think the demand is high and consistent. Problem is: wala ako mahanap na supplier. Can anyone help me on this?

Thanks. I'd really appreciate it if you have any ideas what other products or services i could sell or distribute. I really enjoy my work and it really pays me well with a high salary and regular travel abroad, but hell, it feels good to run your own business.

More power to young Filipino entrepreneurs.

Just wondering, Satoy. Since you have a full-time job, paano mo naiiwan yung Gaming Center mo? To the employees lang ba, or someone you really trust (relative, friend) or did you hire a manager/supervisor?

[xpact45]

hi! any of you guys know where I can find suppliers for plastic containers/pack for pasta packaging?

[SILENTMAX]

in front of new divisoria mall.

tons of choices, rock bottom prices. basta pigain mo nang pigain

[xpact45]

thanks for the big help dude. I'll try going there one of these days!

[velocity000]

To those who want to play Cash Flow, take note of this schedule and confirm your attendance by calling Mr. Ron Dizon tel. 02-5249254 or 0920-9064891

Venue: Hot Cafe (along Roxas Blvd., infront of USA embassy)
Date: 2&9 July 2003, Wednesday (and every Wednesday)
Time: 5:30 pm

Pls. bring the ff: calculator, pencil and eraser.

[snop]

Originally posted by SILENTMAX
in front of new divisoria mall.

tons of choices, rock bottom prices. basta pigain mo nang pigain

Thanks for your tips Silentmax,

Have been reading the Enterpreneur magazine you recommended last year. Great articles.

We're particularly interested in this month's issue - something about gasoline stations. It was about this 32 young MBA grad who put up 1.2 million pesos.

Anyone here into it, or have insights to offer?

Thanks again!

aka mannyb;)

[Satoy]

Originally posted by majorbino
Just wondering, Satoy. Since you have a full-time job, paano mo naiiwan yung Gaming Center mo? To the employees lang ba, or someone you really trust (relative, friend) or did you hire a manager/supervisor?

Hi there,
I have two employees. one has been with our family for years and is very trustworthy. The other is my wife's brother.

[joben]

Who's going to the philbiz2003 fair at the SM Megatrade Hall this coming July 4-6? Is there an EB in the offing? :D

[summit012]

marami bang exhibitor? how much is the entrance fee?

[SILENTMAX]

I'll be going on saturday afternoon till evening

this is for the philbiz fair

july 5

lets start the eb at 6pm at jollibee 4th floor megamall
im preatty sure medyo malpit na dyan yung exhibit

for info and anyone wanting to go pls txt 09175022189

doesnt matter if there just a few of us. lets make this eb happen

[Spyfrat]

boss max et al, baka makapunta kayo ng ilo2 nxt wk, may seminar ukol sa aquaculture.

galing www.seafdec.org.ph

Your are invited to a

ROAD SHOW OF AQUACULTURE TECHNOLOGIES

On the occasion of its 30th Anniversary, the Southeast Asian Fisheries Development Center (SEAFDEC) Aquaculture Department will present a road show seminar on all commercially viable technologies it has developed, on July 7 & 8, at the Barcelo Sarabia Manor Hotel and Convention Center, Iloilo City.

SEAFDEC specialists will present grow-out and breeding technologies of important aquaculture commodities that are mature and ready for commercialization. Each technology presentation will include a discussion on its economics.

The seminar will cover important aquaculture commodities such as: shrimp, milkfish, mud crab, grouper, snapper, seabass, rabbitfish, tilapia, carp, catfish, seaweed, abalone, and seahorse; under a wide variety of culture systems that includes: ponds, tanks, cages, pens, and floating structures.

Businessmen, entrepreneurs, professionals and students in aquaculture and related industries, from across the country, are expected to attend providing an excellent opportunity to establish or expand business and professional contacts.

SEAFDEC would be pleased to have you and your friends in this important event. For reservation or more information, please contact Aquabiz Secretariat: tel (33) 5119172, fax (33) 5118709, and email: aquabiz@aqd.seafdec.org.ph

[trader68]

A VCD-MP3-CD PLAYER! it is very handy for presentations and recreational entertainment with the whole family outdoors or even for private usage. complete with all accessories: video cable, remote control, earphones, and an adaptor! really very handy you can play the portable and compact player almost anywhere! only php2500..has complete accessories: full-function remote, earphones, adaptor, and video cables! if intrested we can meet in de la salle university manila area!!

[velocity000]

Silentmax: u went to the CF game pala. sayang wala ako. punta ka next week? nakalabas ka ba? ilan ang naglaro?

[Tushie]

YOUNG ENTREPRENEURS WHO NEED FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE... AS LONG AS YOUR CONCEPTUALIZED BUSINESSES ARE INNOVATIVE, CREATIVE, AND FEASIBLE...THIS COMPANY MIGHT HELP YOU.

INNOVATIVE PHILIPPINES INC.
1001-1005 10/F HERRERA TOWER,
VA RUFINO COR. VALERO STS
SALCEDO VILLAGE, MAKATI
894-1490
09172001286
LOOK FOR MS. SUNSHINE CASTILLO
(SUNSHINECASTILLO@YAHOO.COM)

[SILENTMAX]

kuya spy:

salamat sa inbita pero medyo malayo para sa akin. maybe next time pag nakaluwag luwag. naghihintay na ako dito samin manganak ang mga red tilapia ko. sabik na sabik na ako maging tatay :)

(public service announcement)
if anyone needs a stocks broker spyfrat is your man. service guaranted, with a smile :) he looks out after your best interest. and has lots of patience(especialy sa mga katulad ko na napaka kulit) so if your looking for an honest and reputable broker spyfrat is your go to guy. :)

sir spy pwede ko ba i post e-mail mo dito :)

[SILENTMAX]

taken from another site

benjamin,
there are various ways of measuring one's success in life.
but the most significant of all i believe is happiness in life.... having this (happiness) my friend... you are truly made.

this is my personally take on it:
i believe i am succesful because.....

i remember father peter eugenio (a priest cm member and drives a gsr), he told me that one time he blessed a very wealthy and old dying man in his sick bed. the old man said "father, ako nagpayaman lang noong malakas pa ako pero ngayon i am dying, people will not remember me. i wish i could have done it differently."

my professor in my college days once told me that our purpose in life is not to live for ourselves but for others. true happiness, success and fulfillment comes from helping others. rememering this and fr. peter's story made sense to me.... on how i should go about living.

i am a teacher of sorts at 33. i am a project manager for resorts and hotels (dsm69, fq320 and trx know the details of my job). when i am in my sick bed and look back i could be at peace with myself because i know that i have helped others to be better both in their work and overall outlook in life. of course having a nice house and a good paying job along the way helps me enjoy life more.

however, you could have all the money in the world but you could also be empty. what is more important is your relationship with others. "if you want to be first/ successful, you have to be last" - Jesus Christ.

having a big house, a nice ride and a high paying job does not mean 100% success in my book. being at peace and contended with yourself is.

.... having a warm humble home, a loving wife and God-fearing kids to come home to is pure heaven!

i envy this man.

i believe in bayanihan( not with a crustacean that hangs out in the bottom of the sea)
this is the reason why we should help each other out.

theres no point in climbing a mountain only to find out that you'll celebrate making it to the top alone. mas masaya pag may kasama ka sa taas to make it into a party diba?

"it is one of the most beautiful compensations of this life that no man can sincerely try to help another without helping himself" -ralph waldo emerson

[SILENTMAX]

Originally posted by velocity000
Silentmax: u went to the CF game pala. sayang wala ako. punta ka next week? nakalabas ka ba? ilan ang naglaro?

yup i played, 7 of us played i was the 5th person that got out of the rat race.

[velocity000]

Originally posted by Tushie
YOUNG ENTREPRENEURS WHO NEED FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE... AS LONG AS YOUR CONCEPTUALIZED BUSINESSES ARE INNOVATIVE, CREATIVE, AND FEASIBLE...THIS COMPANY MIGHT HELP YOU.

INNOVATIVE PHILIPPINES INC.
1001-1005 10/F HERRERA TOWER,
VA RUFINO COR. VALERO STS
SALCEDO VILLAGE, MAKATI
894-1490
09172001286
LOOK FOR MS. SUNSHINE CASTILLO
(SUNSHINECASTILLO@YAHOO.COM)


what's the deal or catch? r u offering a loan or a partnership?

[velocity000]

Originally posted by SILENTMAX
kuya spy:

salamat sa inbita pero medyo malayo para sa akin. maybe next time pag nakaluwag luwag. naghihintay na ako dito samin manganak ang mga red tilapia ko. sabik na sabik na ako maging tatay :)

(public service announcement)
if anyone needs a stocks broker spyfrat is your man. service guaranted, with a smile :) he looks out after your best interest. and has lots of patience(especialy sa mga katulad ko na napaka kulit) so if your looking for an honest and reputable broker spyfrat is your go to guy. :)

sir spy pwede ko ba i post e-mail mo dito :)

can u post spyfrat's contact info here? what broker is he working for? thanks

[candycandy]

what is this thread all about? can i join ? :D


:drive:
candy2

[SILENTMAX]

welcome to young entrepreneurs thread

candy candy

this thread is all about being in business by yourself. to break free from being an emplyee, this is about taking control of your future, and seeing to it that you have a more fruitful life :)

ever been the one in ur class selling stuff? yung tipong lam nila ikaw yung negosiante sa groupo. then this is the thread for you :)

guys lets help candycandy out :)






btw

eb is still set @ july 5 megamall 4th floor jolibee 6pm(ehem :) ) onwards
pls txt 09175022189 for more info
i will be the one in jolibee holding the latest copy of entrepreneur magazine. see you guys there.

[trader68]

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[trekblazer]

hello everyone!

hi to all, it's a great thread!

this is my first post here. I'm currently starting up my business and like some of you, i have questions that i hope you can help me with. :D

1.) Anybody know the lowdown on calculating lease rates for empty lots in the Makati and Ortigas CBD? Let's say the office space in the buildings around the empty lots are renting at 200-500/sq-meter*month?

2.) What should i expect when negotiating for a lease? What should i do and not do?

3.) Can i already conduct negotiations, hiring, and incur expenses for the business, prior to the registration with SEC?

4.) May EB mamaya! Pwede sumama?

5.) Tax avoidance: Can one charge rent for a home office and charge it to the business as an expense? What other legal ways do you guys have?

6.) Does anybody have a list of permits necessary for setting up in Pasig? I currently have one for QC and another for Marikina.

7.) Anyone know if Hollow-blocks making is a viable industry?

[chinkiechina]

Looking for suppliers of:

1. boutique items (bags, shoes, garments,accessories)
2. office supplies (materials for a computer shop)
3. VCDs and CDs

Please let me know. Salamat.

[SILENTMAX]

Originally posted by trekblazer
hello everyone!

hi to all, it's a great thread!

this is my first post here. I'm currently starting up my business and like some of you, i have questions that i hope you can help me with. :D

1.) Anybody know the lowdown on calculating lease rates for empty lots in the Makati and Ortigas CBD? Let's say the office space in the buildings around the empty lots are renting at 200-500/sq-meter*month?

2.) What should i expect when negotiating for a lease? What
should i do and not do?

3.) Can i already conduct negotiations, hiring, and incur expenses for the business, prior to the registration with SEC?

4.) May EB mamaya! Pwede sumama?

5.) Tax avoidance: Can one charge rent for a home office and charge it to the business as an expense? What other legal ways do you guys have?

6.) Does anybody have a list of permits necessary for setting up in Pasig? I currently have one for QC and another for Marikina.

7.) Anyone know if Hollow-blocks making is a viable industry?


1. p500 pesos per sq meter an example of 100sqm lot
200*100=20,000
lot leases are usualy 2-10 years contract
4X4 setup 4 months down 4 months deposit (common agreement)
P160,000 initial cash outlay

2. expect the initial cash outlay malaki talaga. bargain bargain bargain. laging may kaunting tawad pa yan :) u could make it 2x2 or 4x2 4months down 2 months deposit
check for security check the building premises, check for traffic

3. r u setting up a corporation? bakit sec? im not sure about corporations pero for single proprietorship is you could start hiring and conducting negotiations pero you need your dti permit for the contract with the lease so when you sign your contract with your lessor you already have your dti
once you have your dti and have strated acquirng the permits for the local goverment you could start operations. (u could start your operations before your local business permits as long as nilalakad mo na papales mo)

4. YES everbody is welcome pls txt 09175022189

5. pls consult the legal beagles of the other thread also here in TWF for detailed info as im not much of an acountant or a lawyer :)

6. more or less ganun rin ang requirements in all municipalities you said you already have the lists of req of municipalities. what changes though are the local ordinances the rules that must be followed.

7. im sorry im not familliar with hollow blocks or the cement industry. all i could contribute is that there is an ongoing boom in the construction sector so that might be of warm news
btw high growth is recorded in the provinces and not in the MM area.

hth :D

disclaimer: i do not know everything i just re-dispense info that i have gathered, i am a wide reader and as such i remember a lot of useless stuff. if my info would be wrong pls forgive me im only human and do make mistakes. :)

[lyrehs]

wonder how your EB turned out?

ive been an avid viewer of this thread for almost a week now.. i havent read all the post yet.. medyo mahaba na kasi..

im glad to know that some of you are actually venturing into agri-bussiness. my ultimate dream is to have my own farm..i haven't got the capital to start though.. so im thinking of venturing into small investment opportunities to earn some capital for a start up on my ultimate dream. i still can't decide which one though.. hopefully this thread can give me more ideas and help.

keep the ideas coming guys and gals! and thanks!

[SILENTMAX]

Originally posted by lyrehs
wonder how your EB turned out?



no comment :D

[SteadyBoy2k]

I'm taking an entreprenuer class and intro to business to get the basics before i start.

[lyrehs]

SteadyBoy2k: what school? saka how long ang course/class?:)
SilentMax: ala talagang kwento? sige na nga..tanong ko na lang how much *** entrepreneur magazine saka saan nakakabili saka tuwing kailan sila nagrerelease ng bagong edition:)

[joben]

latest entreprenuers mag talks about retailing. Great issue since I and my wife are looking at this for the longest time now.

[SILENTMAX]

lyrehs:
entrepreneur magazine philphines is available at your local newstands
comes out every first week of the month at 100 bucks

[SILENTMAX]

double post :P

[lyrehs]

ok. thanks silentmax :)

[Skirt01]

Okay ba ang negostong pampasaherong dyip? anyone who has an idea about this business, your insights will be greatly appreciated. Salamat!

[ansons]

guys, siyempre, pag kailangan ninyo ng appliances sa pagbubukas ng bagong negosyo tulad ng aircon, gas range, rice cooker, thermos para sa small canteen, bili naman sana kayo sa amin. :)

tiyak na may discount yan!

or kung gusto ninyo mag buy and sell ng mga appliances, puwede rin! we will give u the best discount, kayo na ang bahala tumubo. :)

http://www.ansons.com.ph/anson.gif
feel free to call us up at
2432092, 2432097, 2432101

[allan15]

just txt me kung meron kayong alam sa mga PREPAID CARD Dealers..... i want o buy prepaid cards. for cell use. txt me 0918-938-0366

By the way.........

FOR YOUR BIR registrations and DTI registrations and SEC incorporations.... and tax problems... txt me 0918-938-0366

[allan15]

pag may referral kayo na magpapagawa ng

Bookkeeping, filing of returns, or any tax concerns

just txt me 0918-938-0366
meron kayung commisison

[SILENTMAX]

allan15

welcome to the young entreps thread!!

i think weve met before sa makati workers eb!
nice to have you dito sa thread
pls drop by often and ask/answere questions so that we may all benifit in the shared information :)

[ate germs]

hi guys!

sorry but i haven't read all the posts here, kaya di ko sure if anyone already posted anything about WATER REFILLING STATION business. I'm planning to put up one, gagawa palang ako ng feasibility study. I don't want to buy a franchise kasi malaking capital ang kakailanganin ko dun, plan ko to put up my own. I have a source of the equipment (which is new in the philippines, Japan technology). Anyone here who can give me tips on how to run this kind of business? Where to buy the pet bottles? What are the legal requirments? Pls help!

[SILENTMAX]

im currently in the middle of a short feasibilty study on water filtering and reverse osmosis:


all i can tell you right now is this
given the right location( near a subd) and perfect planning and execution you will make money

[marlo_kalbo]

I recently joined this Network Marketing. I know I know, alot of you guys are skeptical about Network Marketing/MLM, but I am too.

I've been looking into alot of these MLM. I've read SEC's advisory and to the best of my knowledge, Sophie Martin passes all tests.

1. It has a low membership fee. (although it claims it doesn't, it does hehehe just terminology) Only 300 pesos, so the thrust is not really to acquire members in order to have earnings from their membership fees, but to earn from downlines selling while you get commissions from the said downlines.

2. The prices are very affordable, and to the best of my knowledge, competitive and fair. The products are designer bags (of Paris designs), jewelries, and watches.


Please tell me your feedback and input. Of course if this is another scam, I'll be glad to leave it. :)

Any if you want to get more info, you can contact me through:

0919 5048277
0916 2107450

-marlo

[marlo_kalbo]

Also, you are not forced to buy their products when you join, unlike in an MLM I know, which I feel, makes it networking.

-marlo

[Zeratul]

Two words.

FORGET IT.

Do you wanna be a certified SCAMWAY RACKETEER selling THE POWER OF DREAMS!? Do you want to be doing HAKOT-RECRUIT to everyone you see!? Do you want to sell FALSE HOPES to others, in the process, lose your dearest friends and family by using them as pawns to monetary accumulation? Hello!?

Better to put up a business of your own or set up a joint venture with family or friends. Better have something you are accountable for, rather than rest your hopes like a weird zombie of an MLM cult peddling useless P500 shampoo & the power of wet dreams, unless you want to join Rose baladjay in her cell. :D :D

SCAMWAY RACKETEERS are @$$Holes. Nuff said.

[SILENTMAX]

To all computer center owners

Im calling an upward trend and a posible bubble on "RAGNAROK"
well whatever it will end up to be its on fire now

early june 1000-2000 players online
late june 2000-3000 players
early july 3000-4000
right now its hitting 6000 players consecutive all online.

i suggest that if you have the following:
counter strike capable computer
and a fast dsl internet connection.
by all means pls install this game now!!.

dial up accts are limited to 3-4 players only



hth
:D now go and make money :*)




ps. remember "RAGNAROK" you'll be hearing a lot of this game in the near future........










disclaimer: silentmax is not affiliated with levelupgames or the game ragnarok. as such this views are only of an opinion.

[razzp]

Originally posted by marlo_kalbo
I recently joined this Network Marketing. I know I know, alot of you guys are skeptical about Network Marketing/MLM, but I am too.

I've been looking into alot of these MLM. I've read SEC's advisory and to the best of my knowledge, Sophie Martin passes all tests.

1. It has a low membership fee. (although it claims it doesn't, it does hehehe just terminology) Only 300 pesos, so the thrust is not really to acquire members in order to have earnings from their membership fees, but to earn from downlines selling while you get commissions from the said downlines.

2. The prices are very affordable, and to the best of my knowledge, competitive and fair. The products are designer bags (of Paris designs), jewelries, and watches.


Please tell me your feedback and input. Of course if this is another scam, I'll be glad to leave it. :)

Any if you want to get more info, you can contact me through:

0919 5048277
0916 2107450

-marlo

P300 membership fee? Still unreasonable. Ours is a lowly P6.00. The company shouldn't earn from membership fees but from the sale of products. P6.00 is reasonable because you only pay for the paper and ink.

[razzp]

Originally posted by Zeratul
Two words.

FORGET IT.

Do you wanna be a certified SCAMWAY RACKETEER selling THE POWER OF DREAMS!? Do you want to be doing HAKOT-RECRUIT to everyone you see!? Do you want to sell FALSE HOPES to others, in the process, lose your dearest friends and family by using them as pawns to monetary accumulation? Hello!?

Better to put up a business of your own or set up a joint venture with family or friends. Better have something you are accountable for, rather than rest your hopes like a weird zombie of an MLM cult peddling useless P500 shampoo & the power of wet dreams, unless you want to join Rose baladjay in her cell. :D :D

SCAMWAY RACKETEERS are @$$Holes. Nuff said.

Still our shampoo is not useless. Try it to prove your point.

[SiOMs]

Originally posted by chinkiechina
Looking for suppliers of:

1. boutique items (bags, shoes, garments,accessories)
2. office supplies (materials for a computer shop)
3. VCDs and CDs

Please let me know. Salamat.

hi chinkiechina :)

we're selling beaded necklaces and fabric bags. do you have a boutique/shop/stall? where is it located? :)

thanks!

p.s. ano ginawa nyo sa eb? :D may nakapunta na ba sa Networking Night ng Entrepreneur magazine? ano gingwa dun? :D

[SiOMs]

Originally posted by allan15
just txt me kung meron kayong alam sa mga PREPAID CARD Dealers..... i want o buy prepaid cards. for cell use. txt me 0918-938-0366

By the way.........

FOR YOUR BIR registrations and DTI registrations and SEC incorporations.... and tax problems... txt me 0918-938-0366

hi allan15 :)

are you planning on buying prepaid cards by bulk?

***

nueva street in ongpin... school supplies lang ba available dun? san kaya meron ng mga colored recycled paper, cardboards, and other paper products?

thanks! :)

[888888888]

for young ppl who wants big opportunities here and abroad, read this:

i am 19 and im earning an average of 30T a month. and im working partime. about 2 hrs a day. great?! well...i have clients from london, los angeles and tokyo. i'm working with one of the best companies in the world.

credentials:
harvard-stanford schools of med affiliated
sydney-salt lake-athens-beijing olympic endorser
US olympic team; endorsed
highest compensation rate in the world: 115%
listed in the new york stock exchange

these are but a few of our credentials. we are looking for entrepeneurs that are ambitious and who are willing to learn.

if you are intrested, give me a call: 09208353815 look for chris

[summit012]

Originally posted by 888888888
for young ppl who wants big opportunities here and abroad, read this:

i am 19 and im earning an average of 30T a month. and im working partime. about 2 hrs a day. great?! well...i have clients from london, los angeles and tokyo. i'm working with one of the best companies in the world.

credentials:
harvard-stanford schools of med affiliated
sydney-salt lake-athens-beijing olympic endorser
US olympic team; endorsed
highest compensation rate in the world: 115%
listed in the new york stock exchange

these are but a few of our credentials. we are looking for entrepeneurs that are ambitious and who are willing to learn.

if you are intrested, give me a call: 09208353815 look for chris



let me guess, nu skin?

[summit012]

Originally posted by 888888888
for young ppl who wants big opportunities here and abroad, read this:

i am 19 and im earning an average of 30T a month. and im working partime. about 2 hrs a day. great?! well...i have clients from london, los angeles and tokyo. i'm working with one of the best companies in the world.

credentials:
harvard-stanford schools of med affiliated
sydney-salt lake-athens-beijing olympic endorser
US olympic team; endorsed
highest compensation rate in the world: 115%
listed in the new york stock exchange

these are but a few of our credentials. we are looking for entrepeneurs that are ambitious and who are willing to learn.

if you are intrested, give me a call: 09208353815 look for chris



let me guess, nu skin?

[summit012]

Originally posted by 888888888
for young ppl who wants big opportunities here and abroad, read this:

i am 19 and im earning an average of 30T a month. and im working partime. about 2 hrs a day. great?! well...i have clients from london, los angeles and tokyo. i'm working with one of the best companies in the world.

credentials:
harvard-stanford schools of med affiliated
sydney-salt lake-athens-beijing olympic endorser
US olympic team; endorsed
highest compensation rate in the world: 115%
listed in the new york stock exchange

these are but a few of our credentials. we are looking for entrepeneurs that are ambitious and who are willing to learn.

if you are intrested, give me a call: 09208353815 look for chris



let me guess, nu skin?

[SILENTMAX]

Originally posted by 888888888
for young ppl who wants big opportunities here and abroad, read this:

i am 19 and im earning an average of 30T a month. and im working partime. about 2 hrs a day. great?! well...i have clients from london, los angeles and tokyo. i'm working with one of the best companies in the world.

credentials:
harvard-stanford schools of med affiliated
sydney-salt lake-athens-beijing olympic endorser
US olympic team; endorsed
highest compensation rate in the world: 115%
listed in the new york stock exchange

these are but a few of our credentials. we are looking for entrepeneurs that are ambitious and who are willing to learn.

if you are intrested, give me a call: 09208353815 look for chris


sir if your not going to post the name of the company then pls dont "advertise" your racket here. we dont take KINDLY to shady deals with "x" company. if you going to do it RIGHT post the company's name or do not post at all.

im going to be at bit harsh here. but sir you are not an ENTREPRENEUR. you are a SALESMAN. and you are under somebody that controls your future.

we will have none of that here.

[marlo_kalbo]

Originally posted by Zeratul
Two words.

FORGET IT.

Do you wanna be a certified SCAMWAY RACKETEER selling THE POWER OF DREAMS!? Do you want to be doing HAKOT-RECRUIT to everyone you see!? Do you want to sell FALSE HOPES to others, in the process, lose your dearest friends and family by using them as pawns to monetary accumulation? Hello!?

Better to put up a business of your own or set up a joint venture with family or friends. Better have something you are accountable for, rather than rest your hopes like a weird zombie of an MLM cult peddling useless P500 shampoo & the power of wet dreams, unless you want to join Rose baladjay in her cell. :D :D

SCAMWAY RACKETEERS are @$$Holes. Nuff said.

Err... I was hoping you would post the breakdown of your analysis.

Pardon me, but you sound like network marketers themselves. :) j/k

Anyway, just to guide you as what I am trying to get from you, I have these ideas:

1. The product's price is competitive, signature bags selling for 300-1000, compared to the other brands that sell for 2000-5000.

2. I don't see the hakot-recruit you're saying. I can see that the main thrust is really selling the products the company offers.

3. False Hopes? If you don't sell then business won't be good. I don't know any business existing that generates income without selling. As my mentors tell me, every business starts with selling.

4. Please don't make harsh generalizations. Seeing one as a scam (sorry, in my 7 years of studying MLMs, there REALLY ARE alot of scams around) doesn't necessarily indicate that another is.

5. All I want is the rational part. No emotions please.

6. I'll be transferring this to the other thread since I think it fits it better than the yourng entrepreneurs thread.

-marlo

[SILENTMAX]

Originally posted by marlo_kalbo
I recently joined this Network Marketing. I know I know, alot of you guys are skeptical about Network Marketing/MLM, but I am too.

I've been looking into alot of these MLM. I've read SEC's advisory and to the best of my knowledge, Sophie Martin passes all tests.

1. It has a low membership fee. (although it claims it doesn't, it does hehehe just terminology) Only 300 pesos, so the thrust is not really to acquire members in order to have earnings from their membership fees, but to earn from downlines selling while you get commissions from the said downlines.

2. The prices are very affordable, and to the best of my knowledge, competitive and fair. The products are designer bags (of Paris designs), jewelries, and watches.


Please tell me your feedback and input. Of course if this is another scam, I'll be glad to leave it. :)

Any if you want to get more info, you can contact me through:

0919 5048277
0916 2107450

-marlo

"Sophie Martin"

pare im glad your putting out yourself on the line. here are my thoughts on your situation.

300 pesos membership is not that low 5 years back i joined a mlm with a entry fee of 500 pesos.i forgot the name of the company pero we sold soap. back then forever living was also just starting out and i was also asked to join that but i opted to join the first one. big mistake. it folded in 3 months. :(


what makes mlm and networking shady in my book is the way they include deceit in their startegy. starting out to deceive people is not a good way to make a living.

personaly i think sophie martin resembles "sundance".

in anycase if you have problems go to http://www.i-reklamo.ph/
its by dti
or
http://www.dti.gov.ph/

for more info :)
hth

and remember everybody has to start somewhere
i wish you all the luck. (now if you could only start something with you being the boss..........) :)

[SILENTMAX]

red tilapia fingerlings for sale
also known as kingfish(honestly it looks like a goldfish)

sr treated(hormone replacement)
grows to 10-12 inches in 4-6 months (well hopefully)
2 pesos per fingerly
dahil sr treated pero

(but if you act now)
i'm giving a super low low introductory price of

1 peso per fingerling

it tastes like lapu-lapu and at a cheaper price

restaurant price per kilo is 500
palengke price is 250-300
traders price is 150-200

usualy 2 red tilapias per kilo. avg size

pls call/text 09175022189

[doctor_doom]

Originally posted by marlo_kalbo
I recently joined this Network Marketing. I know I know, alot of you guys are skeptical about Network Marketing/MLM, but I am too.


Mawalang-galang po, napadaan lang ako.

Pareng Marlo, ito po ang post ko doon sa isang nagbabalak pumasok sa Nu Skin. You might be interested also:

OK… Sorry kung medyo negative ang dating ko. Nadala na kasi ako sa network marketing na yan. To be fair, suggest ko lang na basahing mo muna ang thread na ito:

http://marketphil.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=2421

After reading what the author posted, gumawa ako ng listahan ng mga questions and information to ask the presentors. Tapos, I attended the presentations. ***** I attended at least 8 opportunity presentations. I asked them the same questions and requested the same information. Ang resulta, none of them gave me all the answers. Sabi lang, magandang opportunity ito, you can be rich, you can make a lot of money, o kaya naman confidential daw ang information na hinihingi ko. Yung iba, nagpakita pa ng Xerox na “income checks” daw. Ang problema, if they are offering the opportunity, they are obliged to give you the real information, di ba? After all, it’s your money at stake. How can you determine if you have a legitimate shot in making real money if you don’t have the right info? Para sa akin, yang MLM na yan, ginagamit lang ang karamihan ng mga kawawang recruit to make money for the ones na nakaupo sa top ng pyramid. Marami akong friends na ng drop out na kasi the MLM program did not deliver what it promised. Yung ibang nag-stay, they are making some money pero it’s not the millions na binobongga ng mga promoters. Ayun, hirap pa rin sila, hassle pa. Bawat get together naming, puro produkto na lang ang usapan, tapos gusto pa kaming bentahan. Nakaka-turn off. Eto kayo naggu-good time, tapos nagiging bentahan ang usapan. Bwiset talaga.

Some of the questions I asked and information I requested:
--What is the dropout rate? (Obviously, a high dropout rate is not good)
--What is the average gross income of an active distributor? (You want to know how much REAL income you can expect to make. Remember you still have to deduct your “business” related expenses to get your NET income)
--How many active distributors are there at each income level? (You want to see what the entire MLM structure looks like and to see how the distributors are clustered)
--What is the average income of these active distributors at each income level? (You want to see how income is distributed within the entire MLM)
--Can I make significant income without recruiting? (If they say yes, they’re lying. The idea of network marketing is to recruit other people, that why it’s called “Network marketing”)

This is what I found about this MLM crap:
--They don’t want to reveal any answers to probing questions like these. Sabi lang, confidential daw (which is a lot of bull).
--The entire MLM structure DOES look like a pyramid.
--At least 90% of distributors are at the bottom.
--The dropout rate is very high, meaning recruits just come and go. By the time na the new recruits realized na nagoyo sila, it’s too late. They lost money and spend their efforts uselessly.
--Sabi ng friend ko sa States, mahigpit na ang US government sa MLM and the consumers are more educated about these things kaya a lot of them are going overseas where the laws are weak and the people are more gullible.
--Your chances of becoming rich is less than 2%.
--These MLMs encourage you to go to seminars, buy self-help books, tapes and other materials not for the reasons you think. They want you to stay excited para hindi ka umalis sa network so that they can bleed more money out of you. The worst part is, you have to pay for these things! Optional daw, pero the way they say it, para bang you will look stupid if you don’t buy it. Remember, all of these things you pay, you have to deduct doon sa income mo kasi expenses ito. Kung tunay sila, dapat free ang seminars, all expenses paid, at saka free din ang mga books, tapes, etc.

OK lang kung mag-attend ka ng mga MLM presentations. But huwag ka mag-padala sa mga high-pressure tactics doon sa meeting. Get the information (the real ones, not the hype they give you), go home, and review it. Figure out how you can make it work and what your chances are, tapos make a decision.

In my case, sinuka ko na yang MLM. Mabuti pa itong real negosyo ko. Nag-ipon ako ng konting pera, nagsimula sa munting buy and sell. Ngayon, biyahe na lang ako sa Thailand and vicinity para mamili ng mga ibebentang imported goods dito. Nde sa pagyayabang pero July pa lang, pwede na akong mag-relaks for the whole year.

[Carpe_Diem_Z]

Originally posted by Zeratul
To all computer center owners

Im calling an upward trend and a posible bubble on "RAGNAROK"
well whatever it will end up to be its on fire now

early june 1000-2000 players online
late june 2000-3000 players
early july 3000-4000
right now its hitting 6000 players consecutive all online.

i suggest that if you have the following:
counter strike capable computer
and a fast dsl internet connection.
by all means pls install this game now!!.

dial up accts are limited to 3-4 players only

hth
now go and make money

ps. remember "RAGNAROK" you'll be hearing a lot of this game in the near future........


disclaimer: silentmax is not affiliated with levelupgames or the game ragnarok. as such this views are only of an opinion.

Just an additional info, pls chk this sites:

1. http://www.level-up-games.com/ragnarok/html/index.jsp
2. http://enweb.ragnarok.co.kr/

:)

[lyrehs]

ako rin na-encourage na ng MLM... The product is diamond. so far wala pa naman akong nababalitaan na scam about it. Medyo mataas nga ang investment cost eh. madali lang sana yung scheme nya kasi dalawa lang ang kailangan.. but since medyo takot din ako na baka scam, i joined with another interested friend under a partnership arrangement. Tinulungan na kami ng upline namin to recruit one downline so isa na lang sana kikita na kami.. pero hindi naman namin maasikaso na mag-invite..

after two years, andun natutulog ang money namin.. the last we heared nag-increase na ang value ng investment fee, ibig sabihin parang nag-earn din naman ng interest ang money namin..

Honestly until now i think it is a good investment and hindi scam.. mahina lang talaga akong mag-sales talk.. my partner and i recently decided to sell it na lang... we thought it is attractive for those who are planning to enter that MLM kasi nga may downline na kami so isa na lang ang kailangan nya mag-earn na agad sya.. sana nga lang talaga mabenta namin yun.

[hooch]

what type of business can i do with this small amount? i'm thinking of prepaid cards but i have no idea where i'd get these items and how much.

help please.

[marlo_kalbo]

Originally posted by SILENTMAX
"Sophie Martin"

pare im glad your putting out yourself on the line. here are my thoughts on your situation.


Hehehe if this is a scam, then I am just a poor stupid soul fooled by the company.


300 pesos membership is not that low 5 years back i joined a mlm with a entry fee of 500 pesos.i forgot the name of the company pero we sold soap. back then forever living was also just starting out and i was also asked to join that but i opted to join the first one. big mistake. it folded in 3 months. :(


I dunno, I think I have the option to burn 300 pesos from myself.


what makes mlm and networking shady in my book is the way they include deceit in their startegy. starting out to deceive people is not a good way to make a living.


Well my upline told me the thrust is really in the selling of the products.

But of course if your downlines are good business people you will benefit too because of royalties.


personaly i think sophie martin resembles "sundance".


Any cross references?


and remember everybody has to start somewhere
i wish you all the luck. (now if you could only start something with you being the boss..........) :)

Yes I have plans starting my own MLM company, because the marketing is so effective, and the costs are very low.

-marlo

[Satoy]

Originally posted by SILENTMAX
red tilapia fingerlings for sale
also known as kingfish(honestly it looks like a goldfish)

....

pls call/text 09175022189

Hi SilentMax, is there a ready market for this? Thanks man.

[SILENTMAX]

marlon:



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300 pesos membership is not that low 5 years back i joined a mlm with a entry fee of 500 pesos.i forgot the name of the company pero we sold soap. back then forever living was also just starting out and i was also asked to join that but i opted to join the first one. big mistake. it folded in 3 months.

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"I dunno, I think I have the option to burn 300 pesos from myself."



back then 500 pesos was a lot for me. kapit patalim dati ako to save up i ate skyflakes and used my allowance as additional capital (seriously totoo to) so i got hurt really bad by networking/mlm's
what also ticked me off is their preasured selling. pero honestly in defence of other networkers. i do use some products like forever living/ and dakki



Mr satoy:
yes there is a market, i can direct you to the traders who will happily take the red tilapia of your hands.... at a wholesale price :)


btw: ragnarok watch/ its close to hitting 7000 concurrent users its at 6920 right now.

[attyaseron]

I am planning to set-up a cashflow group to be based here in Las Piñas. This invitation is open to anybody who is interested. At the moment, the group is only in its conceptualization stage. I have a Cashflow 101 board game. The primary purpose of the group is not only to play the Cashflow board game and share the insights of Robert Kiyosaki and other financial experts but most importantly, to serve as brainstorming sessions for business ideas, real estate and other income-generating sources. In other words, to form a team for planning, establishing and growing businesses. For this purpose, the Cashflow game shall be played for free. Location and regularity of meeting will be discussed later. If you are interested, text me at 0917-8265740.

[contactagent]

E-COMMERCE CENTER PACKAGE (ECCP) is a service facility for secured online shopping and online payment via the e-payment portal, where a Merchant can sell and accept payment, and where a customer can shop, order and pay for goods and/or services sold thru the internet. Our ECCP accepts online (electronic) payment from customers who are using any MegaLink / BancNet ATM cards.

So if you want a website like this, http://www.cyberlink.net.ph/E-Payment/e-payment/epayment.htm just email your contact informations to kendrickpeps@yahoo.co.uk (mailto:kendrickpeps@yahoo.co.uk )

have a nice day!

[sayuri_succubus]

Originally posted by lyrehs
ako rin na-encourage na ng MLM... The product is diamond.

There was also a scam years ago concerning gold coins and gold bars...

[dac]

talk about MLM groups,
a few years ago we were bidding for a big project with a well known MLM group so we decided to do a credit check as well as research on the financial setup and background of the group.

its interesting to note that inspite of the big project involved,
previous suppliers are no longer interested or asked to bid.

a check with a consultant revealed that MLM groups usually do not own any assets.

what you have is an office.
a bank account.
a warehouse.
a warehouse full of products.


thats it. if the company folds up. you get to confiscate a warehouse full of overpriced products.

oh by the way, its a rented warehouse.

given the huge investment we are going to commit to their project and the level of risk, we decided to let this one go
inspite of the big profit.

i guess its just not our cup of tea.

what i'm trying to point out is that dealing with a reputable, solid company with solid assets is a much better option. just in case they encounter financial difficulty, youd know where you stand
(and what assets you can seize)

think about it

[marlo_kalbo]

Hey Silentmax!


Yung feasibility? :)

-marlo

[SILENTMAX]

toll sensya na di ko pa nahahanap seminar notes ko andun yung gist of my feasibilty hiyang hiya na ako sa iyo.
kung may mga tanong ka sa feasibilty tanong mo na lang sakin sa pm. you have no idea how much info ive memorized :)
ive been really busy with my aug. deadline for the coffeeshop kasi and between that and ragnarok(which has hit 8k players) i have been preaty busy.

btw
(patriotic hat on)

onward philipines. bayan muna bago ang ating bulsa.

(patriotic hat off)

[marlo_kalbo]

Parang baliktad a...

Di ba dapat ako mahiya sa yo dahil ako nanghihingi ng tulong?

:LOL:

-marlo

[SILENTMAX]

china expo on aug 14-16

btw ragnarok watch: 9500 players as of today

[summit012]

Originally posted by SILENTMAX
china expo on aug 14-16

btw ragnarok watch: 9500 players as of today


pls. give details about the expo.

[dimple24]

Helo guys! help naman.. im planning ksi mag tiange bka me alam kyo... *** ksi akong alam na nagoorganize e. pa-post naman o tks ah...:)

[geekhead]

guys i need extra income so i plan to go into a simple business. I've studied the other biz and i know now na medyo ok na biz yung prepaid cards, internet cards, eload biz. Do you know any person to contact with this kind of business and mga how much kaya magagastos ko to start up? I paln kasi to hand out flyers pag start na ako and we're living in a condo so siguro lahat dito kuha ko na as customers.:) Thanks in advance!:p

[aji]

Originally posted by geekhead
guys i need extra income so i plan to go into a simple business. I've studied the other biz and i know now na medyo ok na biz yung prepaid cards, internet cards, eload biz. Do you know any person to contact with this kind of business and mga how much kaya magagastos ko to start up? I paln kasi to hand out flyers pag start na ako and we're living in a condo so siguro lahat dito kuha ko na as customers.:) Thanks in advance!:p

Ok yung biz na yan... for net cards try co icontact yung customer service for them to transfer you sa sales.. try to look for the sales contact number sa net card itself if not got o the website mismo. Capital depends upon the net card company. For Example, yung Fuel internet card requires you to buy from them 100pcs nung 100 denomination na cards for a certian price ata. Roughly 10K din magagastos mo dun kung face value yung bayad mo for the 100pcs. But still... depende sa company. For Eload go to a Smart Wireless center nearest you for inquiries and requirements.. But I do know that you have to buy a retailer sim pack approx 400 pesos yun with an initial load of 300 ata. Then you can deposit a certain amount so that yun yung gagamitin mo to load other people. I think smart will give you the promo mats na rin like the small banners you see sa stores. that's all the info I have as far as I know.

[aji]

Lhuillier is an active angel investor. They hold a biz plan contest every year and those with the best biz plan gets to take a capitalization of 300k. As you can see 300k is quite small but then ang target kasi nila ay students who wanna start their own small biz.

[Una_dagmar]

Can anyone make suggestions as to which small business is practical? I'm on a very low budget plus this will serve as some kind of sideline lang...pandagdag pamuhay.

[Ninjakid]

Hi guys, i'm kind of new here..just want to share my thoughts.

"over 50% of small businesses fail in the first year and 95% fail within the first five years."

I don't want to sound pessimistic but I just want to remind the people in here to be extra cautious in their business
efforts specially if you're just starting out. The most important thing that most people overlook is their lack of experience
in whatever endeavor they're trying to pursue. Second is insufficient cash to "run" their business.

Lemme just start by saying that any idiot with a brain can start their own business. Staying in business and actually earning a profit is the hardest part specially in today's volatile economic and political environment in the Philippines.....Let's talk about lack of experience first...just bcoz you're the best panadero in town doesn't mean you should start your own bakery. Starting a business requires that not only should you have the technical skills but also the business skills and enough capital to start AND stay in business without months of profit. Study, research,
work and talk with smart people who've done the same thing you're trying to do - LEARN. Being the best panadero will not help you when you're dealing with banks, your taxes, business partners, debt/rent payments, insurance, zoning issues, etc. However, having business skills can, most of the time (not always), compensate for your lack of technical skills (You can hire the best panadero to work for you). Second, lack of sufficient cash. Most of the time, people invests in high-risk businesses without having senough cash to cover for unexpected expenses/repairs/catastrophe/accidents/debts/zero profit. Most of the time it'll take businesses months (even years) to turn in a profit. Most of your revenues will be used to pay your rent, employees, utility (electricity,water, phone bills, net connection, etc.), etc. You need to have enough cash reserves to pay for all of these just in case (and you most probably will) you're running low on cash and revenues. Your best source of cash is your savings, or if you dont have enough cash....Get a loan, or maintain several open credits from your local bank,
credit card companies, your dad's retirement savings, house equity, your rich-aunt-who-visit-alot-during-xmas, etc. BUT be extremely careful and use these as your last resort. if you're in business for months and you're still not earning any profit, it might be time to ask yourself if your business plan
is working (bad location, poor demand for your product, tight competition, poor business management, etc.) and if you think you already have too much debt and your business is not improving, Get out of it and start all over again, re-think your business strategy ask yourself what are you doing wrong. Which leads me to my suggestion....

If you're just starting out, get into a low-risk venture with a high return of investment (if you do your homework correctly). And try to have multiple sources of income (yes, if you're still working DONT QUIT YOUR DAY JOB!), or as i've said...start off with a low-risk business with a steady cash flow before you start with a high-risk business venture....the retail and food industry is very volatile, has a very high failure rate, and if you're just starting out, a very low return of investment and profit (atleast in the next few months/years.- except for ESTABLISHED franchises). what's preventing the latest foot and mouth disease or red-tide scare from driving away your customers? what's preventing an ESTABLISHED and better-funded competing company from stealing your customer away from you? How about the retail industry? increased competition in the retail industry means your pricing needs to be competetive and sometimes you need to slash prices to the point that you're hardly even getting a profit for each sale...unless you have several branches/stores you're hardly ever going to earn any profit from selling something...

I hear someone asking, "how about the stock market, bonds, currency speculation??just by looking at the current (and future) economic and political climate of our country... I strongly....no...I violently :mad: suggest......you dont put any of your money in the the stock or bond market, specially if you're just starting out!!! The latest Magdalo incident sent the stock market spiraling down faster than I can say" take my money off the ****in stock market!!!"...what's preventing another crazed trigger happy cop/soldier from doing the same thing again??..crime/corruption in the gov't/insurgency/terrorism/mass unemployment and on and on and on...our country is in deep ****...........and currency speculation??? That's even worse, don't even think about it!! But if you're going to ask me, always bet AGAINST the peso!!! but since your money is in peso....you're going to lose your money if you bet against it!! :D....so unless you have a multi-million dollar bank account off shore (preferably in switzerland) and you
dont mind losing thousands/millions of your money in a span of minutes/hours/days....I advise you take your hard earned money some place else.

My suggestion for people who are just starting out......start in real estate....it's low-risk, value of the property increases overtime (if you have the right location), has a steady
cash flow (multi-family/office space rentals), has a high return of investment and a relatively better chances of earning a profit........ you can 1) Flip a property (buy it, hold the contract, sell it right away for a modest profit) 2) Buy the property, Fix it and Sell it for a slightly higher profit 3) Buy a rental property (multi-family apartment, office bldg., student dorm, strip mall, etc.), rent it out, manage it (or hire a professionally trained manager), get steady stream of cash flow. 4) invest in REITs.....ofcourse you still have to do alot of things before you can jump into the real estate band wagon....you have to learn the ins and outs of real estate investing, do alot of research, look for good deals, negotiate with banks/get financing, work with real estate agents, working with lawyers, working with accountants, work with tenants, learn how to manage rental properties, etc. But I found out that in real estate, the amount of effort you put into your real estate deals will be more than compensated if you do your homework correctly... If you're just starting out, you should look into government or bank foreclosures (depending on where you are). the government or banks are desperate to get rid off forclosed properties and sell to someone. Banks don't want to manage properties and they want to get paid, they want the property to start generating money so that they can get back any outstanding loans on the property. The Government sometimes insure housing and urban development projects through government housing loans (they are actually loans made by commercial banks that are guaranteed and insured by the gov't. to help low income families buy a house - check your local city hall). Sometimes people won't be able to pay and default on their mortgage payments and the gov't/bank will have to foreclose the property. Usually you can get a very good deal out of foreclosed properties because banks are motivated to sell the property, usually at a much lower price than it's original selling price. Buy it, renovate it (if the property is in good condition you can skip this step), Sell it for a profit to someone else. Go on to your next real estate deal. and this time, aim for a bigger property...repeat 100 times. While you're buying and selling properties, you can hold on to several rental properties just to be sure you have another source of income.

When you're ready to invest in that hot new company selling SQUIDBALLS, you'll still be confident you have your real estate properties generating cash if you found out the next month SQUIDBALLS aren't going to be the "next big thing" you hoped it would be...:D

well...that's it for now. Bye.

P.S. don't forget to incorporate.

[Mymnosene]

ha... silentmax, i've been trying to contact you... whatever happened to the
small entrep's eb? it's nice to have a group like this....

finally got a client for my small service biz... but still holding a nine-to-six here in
corporate makati... wish me luck.

sulong, young entreps!!!!

[SILENTMAX]

hi
sorry ngayun lang ako reply been busy with my coffee shop
heres setbacks for you.... aug 1 soft opening and sept 1 grand opening pero ang nangyari hangang ngayun di pa ako open:( tapos im going to overshoot my budget by 20%

pero i am focuse kaya ko to :D

hopefully in 1 week bukas na to.

the eb/and the mye group never really materialezed but as 1 door closes another opens, the cashflow group are the best group of people ive met we hold cashflow baordgames every monday at tazza cafe roxas. the baordgames is only there to have a purpose of meeting. pero most of the time we talk about business ideas from the stock market to side business to launching interactive cd's from micro to macro everything under the sun.
the group consists of
travel agent
a lawyer
re brokers
software engineers
ceo of software company
some 9-5's
and me a small time racketeer :P

were trying to widen our scope of area kaya if anybody wants to join pls do!!!

[pbrg]

My friend and I are planning to join bazaars this year, any tips/advice? Should we look for items to sell first or look for venues? how much do we need to start the business? pros and cons of consignment? how do we mark up the items? We're planning to sell baby clothes, ladies wear, bags and shoes. Thanks in advance ;)

[pbrg]

My friend and I are planning to join bazaars this year, any tips/advice? Should we look for items to sell first or look for venues? how much do we need to start the business? pros and cons of consignment? how do we mark up the items? We're planning to sell baby clothes, ladies wear, bags and shoes. Thanks in advance ;)

[mcgyver8]

hi guys!

i'm looking for pioneers for a new business industry.

qualifications

people with positive attitude
hardworking
good work ethics
visionary
internet literate
has a never say die attitude
teacheable


email icm@internationalbookstore.biz

[President]

Originally posted by SILENTMAX
hi
sorry ngayun lang ako reply been busy with my coffee shop
heres setbacks for you.... aug 1 soft opening and sept 1 grand opening pero ang nangyari hangang ngayun di pa ako open:( tapos im going to overshoot my budget by 20%

pero i am focuse kaya ko to :D

hopefully in 1 week bukas na to.

the eb/and the mye group never really materialezed but as 1 door closes another opens, the cashflow group are the best group of people ive met we hold cashflow baordgames every monday at tazza cafe roxas. the baordgames is only there to have a purpose of meeting. pero most of the time we talk about business ideas from the stock market to side business to launching interactive cd's from micro to macro everything under the sun.
the group consists of
travel agent
a lawyer
re brokers
software engineers
ceo of software company
some 9-5's
and me a small time racketeer :P

were trying to widen our scope of area kaya if anybody wants to join pls do!!!

silentmax: where is tazza cafe roxas? what time? sabay pa ata kay ron in Manila. sana drop by ka uli sa hot cafe. :) hope you can set an eb para sa group mo n d manila group. :)

[SILENTMAX]

este hot cafe pala sa tabi ata yung tazza

yupe its the same group

kay ron dizon yung group na yun

velocity: pre post naman kung kelan next board game next monday ba ulit?

[the_BuGs]

Hello suggestion sa magandang business? kung me 300K ka anong business na pwede mong itayo?

Tanong lang magkano Franchising fee ng Hen Lin? at iba pang resto? para magka idea naman ako... kasi gusto ng wife ko mag franchise sa hen lin... eh la naman kaming idea kung magkano franchising nito...

[j3rz3y_gurl]

hello guys.... ako naman gusto ko sana mag franchise ng GRILL QUEEN.... can anybody help me kung paano sila mako-contact.... all i know kasi eh is 200K franchise fee nila i just forgot to get their contact number before dun sa nabasa ko

[velocity000]

To those who want to play Cash Flow, take note of this schedule and confirm your attendance by calling Mr. Ron Dizon tel. 02-5249254 or 0920-9064891

Venue: Hot Cafe (Roxas Blvd. corner TM Kalaw St. Ermita, Manila)
Date: 18 Aug 2003, Monday
Time: 5:30 pm

Pls. bring the ff: calculator, pencil and eraser.

[jazzy]

Hello, im into business of selling home living products. All of our products are unique and exclusive from us. We are still looking for new products to add to our line. Maybe you can suggest a supplier that can provide us. Finder's fee will be lucrative :)

Btw, this thread is really helpful and inspiring. Im looking forward for a success story of business where inspired by this thread.

[velocity000]

any biz opps?

[SILENTMAX]

9526 paying subscribers for ragnarok!!!!!!

hmmm now how do i make money of this info.....:D

[the_BuGs]

Hello suggestion sa magandang business? kung me 300K ka anong business na pwede mong itayo?

Tanong lang magkano Franchising fee ng Hen Lin? at iba pang resto? para magka idea naman ako... kasi gusto ng wife ko mag franchise sa hen lin... eh la naman kaming idea kung magkano franchising nito...

[President]

Originally posted by the_BuGs
Hello suggestion sa magandang business? kung me 300K ka anong business na pwede mong itayo?

Tanong lang magkano Franchising fee ng Hen Lin? at iba pang resto? para magka idea naman ako... kasi gusto ng wife ko mag franchise sa hen lin... eh la naman kaming idea kung magkano franchising nito...



According to RK, most of the wealthy in america r selling and not the buying investors. they are selling their shares of their company. Like Mc Donalds, they r selling the franchise and not the buying.

My point is, since u have P300k. try to look for a problem, then solve it. then perhaps franchise the idea. I know, this is easier said than done. hey, its worth the risk, besides thats entrepreneurship is all about.

Now, if ur thinking of having partners, dito lang kami. then we can be inside investors diba:D there is power in numbers. pm mo lang ako. but seriously, try to organize a team to help u. :)

[petite63]

SILENTMAX,

where is fti? can you give me more info bout the aani seminar.

thanks!

[SILENTMAX]

Originally posted by dimple24
Helo guys! help naman.. im planning ksi mag tiange bka me alam kyo... *** ksi akong alam na nagoorganize e. pa-post naman o tks ah...:)

theres going to be a bazaar at starcity pls look it up sa newspaper

[SILENTMAX]

Originally posted by the_BuGs
Hello suggestion sa magandang business? kung me 300K ka anong business na pwede mong itayo?

Tanong lang magkano Franchising fee ng Hen Lin? at iba pang resto? para magka idea naman ako... kasi gusto ng wife ko mag franchise sa hen lin... eh la naman kaming idea kung magkano franchising nito...

the small stand/kiosk are in the 150k-200k range the one that janice de belen owns which is a 10sq meter small shop hits at 300k-500k depending on size.

im not sure about the full blown restaurant peo malang 1m plus yan total capital.

[SILENTMAX]

Originally posted by Una_dagmar
Can anyone make suggestions as to which small business is practical? I'm on a very low budget plus this will serve as some kind of sideline lang...pandagdag pamuhay.

with the risk of sounding too much like a recording

pre-paid cards

buy and sell...

[the_BuGs]

Originally posted by SILENTMAX
the small stand/kiosk are in the 150k-200k range the one that janice de belen owns which is a 10sq meter small shop hits at 300k-500k depending on size.

im not sure about the full blown restaurant peo malang 1m plus yan total capital.

Anong kiosk naman yun?

[SILENTMAX]

yung katulad sa mga aluminum na squidball kiosks
honestly im not sure if its henlin pero they sold siopao and siomai

[SILENTMAX]

marlo
pare ito na feasibility study ko
due to extensive reasearch and time constraints i will have to charge you with this feasibility study
Two regular yums payable upon the succes of your company :)

2 years ago i took some seminars on outsourcing the seminars were about the many posibilities of
outsourcing procdures which could be replicated in the philipines



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Call center operations and its feasibilty study in philiphine business


Types of outsourcing

Web based programming work,html flash,sql database(online):
the pros on this was that it was relatively easy to do and required 1 to a couple of IT programmers.
all the equipment are readily available. the negative side to this is india and china could pay a programmer
100 pesos a day to do this

medical transcription: this was based on digital voice recording in wav format to be typed written by an encoder in digital
manipulable format. this is more grunt work/low skill and more or less employee intensive and as previously stated
india and china could duplicate this for much less.

Database encoding:
another outsorcing need its a procedure in which raw data in picture form is encoded into a database format for specific
use. this is where survey's usualy end up. same as above indian/china could also compete and dominate in the field

programing:
this is where we have a little more breathing room. Qualtity programming is a little hard to come by and some corporations
will pay for quality work, bullet proof/six sigma programming. Finishing jobs on time also place highly
as well as company integrity in a corporation. "Quality" work is where we could have an advantage displacing
the low costs of india and china. negative side is we are all dead even in this. the only advantage india has is infrastructure
and the only china advantage is mass workers. Filipino programers are more skilled than chinese programers
and we are at par with indian programmers


There are other outsourcing procedures with more or less the same procdures of taking a job which can
be easily reproduced and taking it in another country where it could be done effciently.
while not paying dollars for an american counterpart to do the said work.


This leads us to call centers

Call center procedure inbound: where a person calls a company's helpline/infodesk and is redirected to a call center.
although done before in the united states. call center corporations have found it cheaper to have it based
in another foreign country where they could save in employee wages. instead of paying an agent 2880 dollars a month
they could pay a foreign counter part outstoundingly less some even paying only 300 dollars a month

call center procedure outbound: a procedure in where the call center agent calls clients soliciting a sale or calling for surveys
or having a questionare asked. this procedure could be more profitable for the call center becouse of sales
/commisions involved. this is also more demanding to the agent placing high preasure on the agent to make
many contacts/sale having a quota on how many contact calls they should accomplish

+Positive side:
call centers medium is in the english language, it is my opinion that this will be the iternational business language
with mandarin placing 2nd. the philiphines has currently 73 million English speaking filipinos all in the philiphines
according to a wow statement. Filipinos has accepted western culture and has more or less accepted the customs
slangs and idiosyncricies associated with american culture

-Negative side:
relatively high startup and high overhead costs
india is still the leader and china is catching up, some corporations even resorting to hiring filipino english teachers
Philiphine limited infrastructure has limited call centers to makati, ortigas and is slowly growing in alabang.



COSTS: in raw data form
all in php

50000 a month trunk line rental
250000 a month avg long distance charge for a 20-40 seater center
15000 a month avg employee wage
5000-10000 per sq/m a month avg depending on location (fort=5k / ayala ave =10k)
25000 each computer call center ready
200000 network lan-wan profesionaly installed equipment included
30000 most likely meralco bill for 40 seater
28000 internet connection leased line
24000 securityguard for 24 hours




It is in my general opinion that a startup capital of 5m is what would require for a bare minimum bootstrap
operation of a call center
for a viable statup operation i would suggest at least 8m-10m capital




Why call centers situated in the philiphines would succede.

With philiphines having the highest Concentration of English speaking people
in the eastern side of the world. we cannot be beat

Low overhead
Low initial investment compared to international standards
Tax breaks (inside economic zones which some of the call centers in subic/clark are now situating)
a goverment ready willing and able to accomodate the incoming foreign investments. (due to interpretation)

A battle for the countryside (eco zones) (calabarzone)
with makati and ortigas being the epi-center of the call center corporations. it is hard to overlook this concentration.
the cost is somewhat high in this area and the traffic which cuts into eficiency will undermine its future growth.

a Solution to this is what intel has done. intel was based in makati and had a provincial counter part in "gateway" cavite
an eco-zone. it has now moved most its operations and offices to cavite enjoying most of the tax breaks
related to ecozones. They have low lease/rent and relatively low traffic rate therby improving eficiency and lowering
overhead costs. with less of the stress, smog, preasures associated with the metropolis, intel engineers in cavite
can now breath a sigh of relief, they can now be more creative and more productive.

this feasibilty abruptly ends here unfinished as this is just a rough draft








on a side note
for more info and feasibilty studies my e-mail is on the top, i will work for regular yum's which coincidently is on sale at jolibee :)

[President]

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[amaw]

Hi everyone!

This is my first time to go into business and I really need some help. I am about to assume ownership (single proprietorship) of a small internet cafe. Can you please tell me what are the things, especially documents that I need to obtain from the current owner before I finally assume ownership of the business? Am I liable for the current owner's unsettled obligations even after ownership is already transferred? Thanks for the help.

[Ninjakid]

Originally posted by SILENTMAX

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LOL :D anyone could've written your so-called "feasibilty study". and to tell you the truth I don't think you know what you're talking about!! :D:D:D

[Krakista]

Originally posted by Ninjakid
anyone could've written your so-called "feasibilty study". and to tell you the truth I don't think you know what you're talking about!! You're entitled to your own opinion but I think you'd better get back to your own previous posts which sounds more like a prescription for moving towards or staying in poverty. :D :D :D

[Ninjakid]

Originally posted by Krakista
You're entitled to your own opinion but I think you'd better get back to your own previous posts which sounds more like a prescription for moving towards or staying in poverty. :D :D :D

:D hehe fan yata to ni SILENTMAX :D:D:D

what post exactly are you referring to Krakista? :)