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Why It Doesn't Always Work The Second Time Around: Marketing 101 and Psycho

In marketing you will often hear that if you do something once and it works, it will work again. No doubt. No uncertainty. A mailing to a direct mail list is successful, so you do it again. A banner ad brings in people, so you run it again.

Often what works does so because of proven, underlying reasons. Marketing at the highest level is becoming very scientific. InfluenceAtWork.com is a good site to introduce you to the science of persuasion and influencing others.

Yet, sometimes, what works once does not work the second time around. Understanding why what worked one time did not work the second time is fertile ground for increasing your understanding of marketing.

The goal is to learn the "Whys" of success. If you can understand why what worked once didn't work the second time, you will be ahead of most marketers.

Take a simple example of the movie Psycho. The original Hitchcock thriller stunned the audience and won a spot as one of the all-time great thriller movies.

Recently, there was a remake of Psycho. Did it work as a successful film? No.

Why not?

Well, one, it sucked. Sucking the second time around will lead to failure. You need the quality of the original. But, even if the remake had been exceptionally well done, it could never have made the impression the original Psycho did.

The reason that Psycho so shocked the audience the first time around was due in part to the expectations of the moviegoers. Think about how the movie starts.

We are following around this attractive lady who has a bunch of money and who looks like she is embezzling it. She gets in a car and drives to a hotel. We are about a third of the way into the film.

What is the viewer's natural conclusion about this lady? She is the protagonist. The assumption is that we will be following her story through the rest of the movie. The moviegoer is not used to seeing the main character killed one-third into the film. That is unexpected. That is shocking. The shock is that we have not been following the main character!

Forget the big knife coming down behind a curtain and the blood. That you could have dealt with, if you were only a few minutes into the film. Horror flicks have never been new!

What you couldn't deal with was the sudden shock to your expectations in the natural flow of the storytelling. Moviegoers have expectations of how a film will unfold.

The new Psycho could never achieve this. Everyone knows the story. Everyone knows the plot. The original magic can never be restored. You can't shock the audience by killing off the "main" character the second time around.

Take a more subtle way of distracting a movie-going viewer. Of making the viewer feel just a bit uncomfortable. Watch the scene in Saving Private Ryan where typists are composing letters to the families of those killed in action. We overhear what is being written. We see the stacks of letters. We see row and row of women at typewriters.

We stop to watch one attractive lady as she types and glances aside. She glances aside and looks straight into the camera. She looks at us, the audience. It is as if we have been discovered eavesdropping on private thoughts.

It only takes a split second, but it startles the viewer. Filmmakers have long been aware of this effect. And, new actors often try to sneak a look into the camera spoiling the shot. But, here the effect is intentional. Or, maybe, Spielberg is just losing it.

Great filmmakers not only understand the film medium, but also understand the relationship between the characters on screen and how they influence the audience. They understand the interaction between the audience and the film.

In the same way, marketers should try to understand the interaction between the product they are marketing and the people buying the product. Even if the product and the offer remain the same, the perception and needs of the person can change a great deal.

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A Fork In the Road: Negotiation, Humor, and Business Moves

I'm no negotiator and I know it. If you want to read negotiation from a master negotiator, read anything, everything from Harvey Mackay. He lives on negotiation. In one of his books, he mentions a key factor in negotiating is having superior knowledge to the person you are negotiating with.

Information is good, but, I will add, superior strategy is also useful.

Being able to target two purposes at once. In chess, weak moves tend to threaten the opponent in only one way. It only puts pressure on one opponent piece. It is hard to win if all you do is make moves that attack one piece.

The opponent will usually have a one-move response to effectively counter your single threat. The most effective moves are those which simultaneously threaten two of your opponent's pieces.

Consider the powerful forking behavior of a chess knight. A knight can be very fun or a very annoying chess piece, depending upon whether you or your opponent is using it more effectively. The killer knight move is forking the opponent's king and queen with your knight.

If, in one move, you can put your opponent in check and at the same time be threatening the queen, and no options exist for your opponent taking your knight, you have probably won the game. Doing the same to two rooks will probably put you up enough material so that you will win the game also.

Of course, this is easier said than done. But, the fact remains, threaten two pieces at once, and it is very difficult for your opponent to protect both with only one move. If you can make repeated moves, each targeting more than one helpless chess-piece victim, your position will gain immensely.

Now, as I said, I'm not a competitive guy. Personally, I think competition brings out the worst in me. I would rather seek a mutually beneficial deal. While aggressive negotiation is useful for some forms of negotiation, it is a deadly flaw in other negotiation arenas.

The other day, I was getting clothing from the laundry machine and the TV was on. A talk show host was interviewing some very attractive young ladies who wanted to be stars. I just caught one line of the show, but it was a great line.

This incredibly attractive blond said, "I'm a Barbie, living in a Barbie world. AND I WILL BE ON BAYWATCH!"

The audience happily applauded. I realized two things.

&nbspOne. I want to be a producer on Baywatch.

And two. No need for two. I got in the punch line.

Humor works because it makes a second implicit connection between what is said and what might really be meant. You see not just one connection, but two connections. One funny. Hopefully.

People are always looking for ulterior motives. And, I don't use the term "ulterior" with derogatory connotations. I just mean more than one goal is being targeted. Often, the secondary goal is just as meaningful as the directly-stated goal. And, the unstated goal doesn't have to be sinister.

Good films make use of this in humor, but also in another powerful way. They state something more significant or provide insight that resides just below the surface of what is directly said.

One of my favorite movies, Rocky, has a scene where Adrian has just been invited into Rocky's apartment. He wants to show her his exotic pets, two turtles named Cuff and Link.

He holds them up and says, "These are the turtles I told you about."

She says, "I know. I sold them to you."

"Of course, you sold them to me. I remember that. I came in and I bought the turtles. Then I came in and bought the bowl. Then I... You know I had to get rid of that mountain cause it kept tipping over."

Great writing. Who among people Stallone's age who had a fish tank can't remember having some silly mountain or such thing that kept tipping over? And, trying to get it to keep from falling was no small matter. Usually, it had to go. Beaten by an ornament. A great line. Small talk, but at the same time lightly touching upon a real minor life frustration. Tipping mountains.

But, is Rocky really an amphibian aficionado? No. Not that he doesn't like his turtles. He does. We learned this in an earlier scene, so we don't doubt that he is a good turtle owner, as well as a good guy.

But, in a way, what Rocky is really saying is, "I like you. I kept coming to the store, not cause I needed a mountain, but because I wanted to see you." He is sincerely interested in her. Hardly, conveying a sinister thought.

And probably not trying to convey a hidden implication at all. The beauty of such often missed implicit meaning is that it usually is true. Not planned at all. But, what is projected. What is understood.

If you try to force hidden meaning, you will probably fall into superficiality. But, once you learn that much more is nearly always conveyed than just what is stated, you will be able to do two things.

One, you will be alert for hints that the other person is giving you. About issues that concern them that they do not directly wish to state. They might think to do so is tacky. Yet, they have the concern.

Once you can see the concern, you can try to address it. Put the person at ease on the issue, maybe.

Two, you can be more alert to what you are saying. You can learn to spot verbal slips that might cost you. Giving away a concern of yours that you don't want the other party to see, for example. Like the fact that you need the deal much more than they do.

Mackay says good negotiators often make a notebook history of what happens during a negotiation. Summarize what happened. Then you can examine it later and see how you can improve as a negotiator. Ask, "What were the deciding factors in the negotiation?"

I never have kept such a negotiation diary, myself. Then, again, I'm no Harvey Mackay.

To have a practical example of how you might approach making every opportunity count for two or more strong moves, consider the case of a consultant.

Your first goal as a consultant is, of course, to generate business. Let's suppose you have a client for whom you have just completed a project. That's Move One. You generated the business and earned some money.

But, now to maximize your payoff, do the following. First, ask the client if he or she knows anyone else who might be able to benefit from your services. If so, get the name of the person and ask the client if he or she will recommend you to the person. This way you are seeking referrals from every job you do. You add to your prospect list.

Second, ask if you can use the person as a reference. Some people don't like to be bothered giving references, but others do. Many consultants neglect this. They are willing to generate the business, but then they never build more good references.

You have now created a very effective fork. You have not only served a client, but you have possible new clients and references to your prowess. But, you are not done yet.

A week or two after finishing your project, call the client and ask if everything is OK. Is there anything you can help them with? Free of charge, of course. Any other big projects they need? Not free of charge, of course. And, ask them to keep you in mind in the future if they might have needs related to what you do.

This helps build goodwill. It shows you are concerned about the client and at the same time helps ensure some future business.

Finally, a very interesting study showed that as some men age, they often seriously loose brain cells. Not the best thing! One of the first things to go is the sense of humor. This leads to the stereotype of the Grumpy Old Men.

Related to this, young and healthy chimps tend to be playful. Their brains are actively growing. But, as gorillas age, their brain shrinks. They become more morose. Less likely to enjoy a good gorilla joke.

Becoming more antisocial might be OK for a 300-pound gorilla who can stomp anything and anyone in his way, but in the human world, with that attitude you will lose. You can't roll over everyone in your path and hope to succeed. You need to learn to negotiate for your benefit, but at the same time try not to exploit the other party. Take advantage and it will certainly be a one-time negotiation.

There is strategy in being good-natured. Keep sharp by laughing.

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A Comparison of Direct Mail Catalog Marketing to Internet Marketing

Many people compare the relatively new field of Internet marketing to the much older and established field of direct-mail marketing and, specifically, niche catalog selling through the good old USPS.

The comparison is valid. Direct mail shares much with Internet Marketing. As I said in my new book, Thinking Like An Entrepreneur, the new methods of Internet marketing are the natural evolution of direct mail.

What are the differences?

Well, at present, marketing over the Internet is still very much the province of niche sellers. A site which tries to be everything to everyone will not succeed. Most items sold simply do not appeal to most people.

Yet, we all have our specialized areas and interests. While general mail-order catalogs, like Sears, have struggled and become extinct, specialized catalogs to niche markets have thrived.

Consider specialized catalogs to outdoorsmen such as Cabela's, Gander Mountain, and The Sportsman's Guide. Being from Minnesota, I see many catalogs and catalog companies catering to fishermen, campers, hunters, and other outdoor types.

Still, while many people order from such catalogs, the industry, itself, has gotten extremely competitive. Gander Mountain had a beautiful catalog that was relatively well-targeted. But, the costs of larger full-colored catalogs are significant, and the catalog was abandoned.

Cabela's catalog is much like the old Gander Mountain catalog. It has extremely high quality printing and is moderately-well targeted. However, it suffers from the same difficulty plaguing all high-quality print catalogs. Printing and mailing costs.

The only way to recoup high printing costs is to pass the cost on to the consumer. But, people who really belong to a given niche market receive many, many catalogs. The people who are significant buyers within a niche receive cheaper catalogs often printed in newsprint or similar quality.

What these cheaper catalogs lack in elegance, they make up for in selection and in pricing. Often, these catalogs are nothing more than lists and lists of products and the associated price. And, the price is lower than the advertised price of the high-quality print catalog.

Where does the customer buy?

Usually, from the lower-priced catalog.

Lesson 1 of Direct Marketing
The heavy buyers within any niche tend to know the products they are buying. They have probably read product reviews and have strong opinions about which products they might buy. Within the niche, they are informed buyers. And, they get many catalogs that offer the same products. Unless you truly have proprietary products, even if you are selling to a niche market, you are in a commodity-type business. Low-cost seller of the desired product gets the order.

Given the above lesson, how do catalog sellers with higher-quality color catalogs that are aimed more at selling rather than offering the best price survive? It is not by selling to a targeted niche! As stated, the real niche buyers tend to be price aware and know what competitor's prices are.

Catalog companies with more expensive catalogs survive, or try to, not by targeting the real niche, but rather by skimming the surface of the niche. By generating sales not to the most serious hobbyists, but by selling to the rainy-day hobbyists. By selling to those with a lukewarm interest in the area.

The advantage of this strategy is that for every truly dedicated fisherman, there are probably hundreds or thousands of rainy-day fisherman. Or, sunny-day fishermen. Whatever.

The disadvantage is that these lukewarm people buy fewer bobbers. Actually, they probably buy more bobbers, and basic hooks to use with night crawlers they brought to the surface the night before by flooding their backyard with water. But, they do tend to buy fewer of the killer-must-have-high-tech lures. The ones made of plastic, but that feel like live bait. They tend not to like the idea of casting something costing $5 into the weeds.

It is precisely these higher-end toys that the more expensive catalogs are selling. Not to mention depth finders and other necessities. But, the core buyers of such toys are the serious hobbyists.

Lesson 2 of Direct Marketing
&nbspIn addition to the real niche buyers, any market has many more less-informed buyers who are much less price aware. They like to view themselves as knowledgeable in the field under question, but at heart they are dilettantes. Also, many people who are just getting involved with a specialty area will have first marketing exposure to the area from the companies that more aggressively promote their catalogs to more general audiences. These will tend to be the more expensive glossy catalogs.

Which are you? A company marketing to a niche? Or, a company really marketing to the fringe of the niche? Many catalogs, circulated by companies that think they are niche marketers, are really directed to the fringe of the niche.

That is not to say this practice is bad. Many real niches are very small, and many direct marketing companies seek growth. It is difficult to grow into a niche. This demands becoming the low-price provider of products and goods that are most highly desired by the niche. It would mean your company's growth would be market limited.

Let's turn our attention away from catalog sellers and toward direct mail used to promote one product via a typical direct-mail package. Perhaps, a #10 envelope with a promotional letter, a flier, a lift letter, and a coupon and order card.

Success in direct mail involves testing. I briefly discuss direct mail testing in Thinking Like An Entrepreneur and won't go into detail here. But, small changes made to the offer, the copy, and the mailing package do affect response significantly. Going from 1.0 order from every one hundred mailing packages sent out to 1.3 orders per every one hundred is a significant increase.

But, direct mail gurus know response is usually not their main interest. They often want to maximize profits on the particular mailing. A mailing that draws only a 0.8% response might be far more profitable than a response of 1.5%.

The key factor that makes the mailing getting only a 0.8% response more profitable than the mailing generating a 1.5% response is the price of the product. In addition to testing the copy, the offer, and the graphics of the mailing package, a most significant goal in direct mail testing is to test the price you charge for the product.

Maybe, $50 for the product's price will maximize profitability on the mailing. But, maybe $100 will make even more, despite a drop in response rate. Direct mail marketers test price.

You send out 5,000 pieces pricing the product at $50, or probably $49.99 or some such thing. You send out 5,000 pieces pricing the product at $99.95 or whatever. And, you test a midrange price by sending out 5,000 pieces, price testing at $75.

It is the response to your price testing that will be used to set the price assigned to the product when you do the roll-out mailing to the entire mailing list. Changes in the price often will determine whether a particular offer is profitable or not for the direct-mail company.

But, what would happen if you sent two different offers to the same customer? One offering the product for $50 and the other for $100? The customer would probably order the product for $50!

What if the customer had already ordered for $100 when he gets your piece offering the same exact product for $50? The customer is not a happy camper anymore. He feels you charged him more and took advantage of him.

The lesson is that direct-mail price testing works because the market being sent the promotional pieces is not price efficient. No one knows what the offer made to the other guy or gal is. You can discretely test $50 versus $100 and then use the information of your testing to set the final price which will be used with your roll-out to the entire list. And, the price chosen will be a significant factor in determining the financial success of the promotional mailing.

Notice how price inefficiency, or customer unawareness of your competitor's pricing (and even your own pricing sometimes!), is a key factor in both catalog marketing and direct mail.

Lesson 3 of Direct Marketing
You test offers. You test copy. You test teaser copy on your envelope. But, most important you test price. Testing is used to determine what price is best for a direct mail product. Only upon finding the optimal price do you set the product's price.

Can you price test on the Internet? Is it possible a customer will only see one of your two offers? No. The customer will likely come across both offers and both prices. The Internet does not allow conventional methods of direct mail where you can test and then roll-out.

Once a product is online, it is online for all to see. There is no ability to test only a small portion of a niche market and to make roll-out decisions based upon the test. The Internet gives consumers more power and makes markets more price efficient. The Internet makes price comparisons easier when dealing with retail products. It doesn't matter if those products are within a niche.

Internet marketing is niche marketing. Direct mail is niche marketing. But, so is starting a scuba shop in California. All appeal to some small segment of the overall population, but the methods of direct mail do not rollover unmodified to Internet marketing.

While it would be trivial for a company to put up two different web pages with the same product offered at different prices, and even lead customers selectively to one or the other, for a company that is seeking to build a customer base and preserve reputation, Internet price testing is not a good option.

The area of the Internet corresponding most to direct-mail testing is Internet banner ad testing. Multiple banners can be run and you can measure the "clickthrough" for each banner, or how many people click on the banner and go to your web page.

And, you can examine what proportion of the people arriving from a banner are converted into online sales. You must factor out the site from which the people are arriving for this to be valid.

As discussed in Thinking Like An Entrepreneur often the most important factor in growing a marketing-oriented business is not the rate at which you can get people to place their first order with your company. The real key is the rate at which you can convert first-time buyers into repeat buyers.

At present, Internet banners are relatively untargeted. But, in the future, banners will be highly targeted. Whereas traditional direct mail focuses upon getting lists of prospects, who are all very similar, and then finding an offer that is appealing to the aggregate, the evolution of Internet marketing will eventually target marketing right down to the individual level.

Computer programs, called recommendation engines, will be used to select the content to be displayed to a given consumer. Information about a given person, stored in a database or in some cookie-equivalent concept, will be used to help generate most web pages. The individual customer profile will be used to recommend books, CDs, what banners are most appropriate to that particular customer, etc.

Pages will be dynamically generated to the taste of the customer. Anyone looking over the person's shoulder will say, "What weird ads you have. Here's one from Mole (film lighting), one about a new book on Active X, one about Chinchilla farming."

Of course, the person's real passionate hobby will be developing Active X controls that control lighting of Chinchilla farms. Take a look at netperceptions.com, a Minnesota-based company which is a leader in developing software that works behind the scenes to recommend products. It really is amazing stuff.

As Thinking Like An Entrepreneur mentions, this is the future direction of direct mail. While traditional direct mail is about testing and roll-out and segmentation of people by shared proclivities and interest, one-to-one marketing will be much more up-close and personal. Go ahead, try to find a mailing list of Active X programming Chinchilla farming filmmakers!

The potential exists to generate web pages that really are more like collections of direct-mail promotions. An interest in film lighting might merit a flashing banner ad from Mole. Your interest in Active X programming might elicit a recommendation of a new book on Active X. Your interest in Chinchilla farming will generate an ad for…lingerie. Oh, well, there will always be some bugs in any computer program!

Personalization will become very impersonal behind the surface. And the programming and data filtering demands will become relatively significant. Because of this, larger companies will be best able to use the power of recommendation engines and such behind-the-scenes customer evaluation tools. At least for a while, much of this power will be too highly-priced for smaller companies.

Companies that are making intelligent decisions about Internet business, such as amazon.com, will acquire customers, because they can provide a very customized "personal" shopping experience. Imagine going into a bookstore and finding it filled with shelf after shelf of books all of which are about topics that greatly interest you. But, these businesses are also aware of the need to be price competitive. Ordering from the competitor is only a click away.

What does this all mean for the smaller business that has relied upon direct mailing of catalogs? Same question as always: Are you really marketing to a niche, or are you just nipping the fringe of the niche? If you have been nipping at the fringe of a niche, your life is going to become complex. But, if you satisfy the demands of the most price-conscientious and knowledgeable members of your niche, you should be well positioned as you put your catalog online.

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A Younger Person Wants To Start a Business, Wonders If Taking Risks Pays Off, In General, and Worries About How To Pay Back Borrowed Money If The Business Fails

That you are young is an advantage to you in taking the risk to start your own business. If you would fail, you would still be young enough to build a career in another field or start another business in another direction. One way or another, you would have time to recoup lost earnings. Look at your first business as partially a learning experience. Try to make some money, yes, but learn about business and don't over extend yourself financially.

I like to see new entrepreneurs who are actually concerned about being able to pay off a loan if their business would not take off. This is a good sign of responsibility. Too many young people just want start up funds and never consider what happens if all doesn't go according to plan. Maintaining this attitude of responsibility will help you in getting the funds you seek. Banks seldom borrow to smaller start up companies, venture capitalists are only interested in start ups with explosive growth potential ($10 million in revenue in 3 years for example), so you will need to really hunt to find your financing options.

Before you raise any funds, you want to evaluate the opportunity in depth. You must make an estimate of the profit margins you will be able to maintain. You want to get a handle on what is reasonable level of sales for the business you are considering (and then how much of this sales revenue is retained as profit). Estimating sales is never easy, but it helps to have reasonable guesses as to what might likely happen on the upside and on the downside.

Having conservative estimates of sales should help you from overextending yourself financially. You will not take on large overhead, etc. in anticipation of huge and unrealistic sales that never materialize. Never spend money in anticipation of getting rich.

As a general rule, I believe you are rewarded for higher risks you take in life. No one who ever achieves real financial success does so by being an employee. It is also easier to do what you want, if you run your own business. But, there is intelligent risk taking (where you work to understand the business opportunity you contemplate, you predict profit margins, etc, and you try to start a business endeavor that puts the odds of success in your favor) and there is foolish risk taking (not thinking before you start an endeavor, not considering likely margins, etc.)

You can do a lot to reduce your risks 1) by studying the opportunity. 2) by working really hard to bring your dream to fruition. The consequences are strongly influenced by your own efforts. Through study and hard work, you can reduce the risk of your ventures significantly. This is often what separates those who succeed from those who fail.

There is a great book, Against the Gods by Peter Bernstein that covers the history of risk. It is true, when we learn to evaluate risk, we are no longer at the mercy of the gods. We are in control of our lives and can make our life decisions based upon rational criteria. Finally, do learn simple financial decision making. This will enhance your chances of success significantly.

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A Younger Person Wants To Start a Business, Wonders If Taking Risks Pays Off, In General, and Worries About How To Pay Back Borrowed Money If The Business Fails

That you are young is an advantage to you in taking the risk to start your own business. If you would fail, you would still be young enough to build a career in another field or start another business in another direction. One way or another, you would have time to recoup lost earnings. Look at your first business as partially a learning experience. Try to make some money, yes, but learn about business and don't over extend yourself financially.

I like to see new entrepreneurs who are actually concerned about being able to pay off a loan if their business would not take off. This is a good sign of responsibility. Too many young people just want start up funds and never consider what happens if all doesn't go according to plan. Maintaining this attitude of responsibility will help you in getting the funds you seek. Banks seldom borrow to smaller start up companies, venture capitalists are only interested in start ups with explosive growth potential ($10 million in revenue in 3 years for example), so you will need to really hunt to find your financing options.

Before you raise any funds, you want to evaluate the opportunity in depth. You must make an estimate of the profit margins you will be able to maintain. You want to get a handle on what is reasonable level of sales for the business you are considering (and then how much of this sales revenue is retained as profit). Estimating sales is never easy, but it helps to have reasonable guesses as to what might likely happen on the upside and on the downside.

Having conservative estimates of sales should help you from overextending yourself financially. You will not take on large overhead, etc. in anticipation of huge and unrealistic sales that never materialize. Never spend money in anticipation of getting rich.

As a general rule, I believe you are rewarded for higher risks you take in life. No one who ever achieves real financial success does so by being an employee. It is also easier to do what you want, if you run your own business. But, there is intelligent risk taking (where you work to understand the business opportunity you contemplate, you predict profit margins, etc, and you try to start a business endeavor that puts the odds of success in your favor) and there is foolish risk taking (not thinking before you start an endeavor, not considering likely margins, etc.)

You can do a lot to reduce your risks 1) by studying the opportunity. 2) by working really hard to bring your dream to fruition. The consequences are strongly influenced by your own efforts. Through study and hard work, you can reduce the risk of your ventures significantly. This is often what separates those who succeed from those who fail.

There is a great book, Against the Gods by Peter Bernstein that covers the history of risk. It is true, when we learn to evaluate risk, we are no longer at the mercy of the gods. We are in control of our lives and can make our life decisions based upon rational criteria. Finally, do learn simple financial decision making. This will enhance your chances of success significantly.

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A Younger Person Wants To Start a Business, Wonders If Taking Risks Pays Off, In General, and Worries About How To Pay Back Borrowed Money If The Business Fails

That you are young is an advantage to you in taking the risk to start your own business. If you would fail, you would still be young enough to build a career in another field or start another business in another direction. One way or another, you would have time to recoup lost earnings. Look at your first business as partially a learning experience. Try to make some money, yes, but learn about business and don't over extend yourself financially.

I like to see new entrepreneurs who are actually concerned about being able to pay off a loan if their business would not take off. This is a good sign of responsibility. Too many young people just want start up funds and never consider what happens if all doesn't go according to plan. Maintaining this attitude of responsibility will help you in getting the funds you seek. Banks seldom borrow to smaller start up companies, venture capitalists are only interested in start ups with explosive growth potential ($10 million in revenue in 3 years for example), so you will need to really hunt to find your financing options.

Before you raise any funds, you want to evaluate the opportunity in depth. You must make an estimate of the profit margins you will be able to maintain. You want to get a handle on what is reasonable level of sales for the business you are considering (and then how much of this sales revenue is retained as profit). Estimating sales is never easy, but it helps to have reasonable guesses as to what might likely happen on the upside and on the downside.

Having conservative estimates of sales should help you from overextending yourself financially. You will not take on large overhead, etc. in anticipation of huge and unrealistic sales that never materialize. Never spend money in anticipation of getting rich.

As a general rule, I believe you are rewarded for higher risks you take in life. No one who ever achieves real financial success does so by being an employee. It is also easier to do what you want, if you run your own business. But, there is intelligent risk taking (where you work to understand the business opportunity you contemplate, you predict profit margins, etc, and you try to start a business endeavor that puts the odds of success in your favor) and there is foolish risk taking (not thinking before you start an endeavor, not considering likely margins, etc.)

You can do a lot to reduce your risks 1) by studying the opportunity. 2) by working really hard to bring your dream to fruition. The consequences are strongly influenced by your own efforts. Through study and hard work, you can reduce the risk of your ventures significantly. This is often what separates those who succeed from those who fail.

There is a great book, Against the Gods by Peter Bernstein that covers the history of risk. It is true, when we learn to evaluate risk, we are no longer at the mercy of the gods. We are in control of our lives and can make our life decisions based upon rational criteria. Finally, do learn simple financial decision making. This will enhance your chances of success significantly.

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Decision-Making, The Dot.com Shakeout, and Entrepreneurship

As entrepreneurs drive rapidly down the Information Super Highway, today, they are needing to slow down and swerve often to avoid Entrepreneurial Road Kill. Failed ventures, abandoned ventures, and pained ventures running around without a CEO, waiting for the next, oncoming entity to mercifully finish it off, are among the clutter.

Every so often an energetic entrepreneur gets caught in the oncoming headlights, freezes, and wonders why. Why is it that their idea which seemed so fundable only months ago fails to dazzle investors today? The team is the same. The company's market is the same. Operationally, nothing has changed for the worse within the company.

The only difference is that darn stock market and the lower valuation it is giving to Internet ventures. And, that makes all the difference. Whether we take it from a Stephen Covey Maxim, or elsewhere, we must remember the first thing about decision-making: "Begin with the end in mind."

More appropriately, when we are trying to understand the actions of others, ask what their objective is. The goal of many of the venture capitalists and some of the entrepreneurs was simply to take a company public to have highly-valued shares to sell on the open market. Long-term viability of the business model meant little, compared to the salability of the "story" of the company.

This is why so many Internet, consumer-retailing companies sprouted up and received funding. It's not that they were great long-term opportunities with sustainable, solid profit margins. Rather, retail investors understood: "There are a lot of toy buyers. Internet sales have advantages over mortar stores. WOW! Internet toy sales will be big! Here's a great market opportunity! BUY!"

Then, these dubious companies found their way into established mutual funds. Why? What is the motivation of the professional money managers? Not to underperform the broader stock market. If the market tanks and all mutual funds do poorly, people won't blame their money manager. It's the market's problem, not the manager's.

But, if overvalued stocks continue to go up, and a manager is left behind, because he wouldn't buy overvalued stocks, money pours out from his mutual fund. Possibly, he is replaced as the fund's manager. This creates a strong incentive for professional money managers to be momentum players in a bull market, buying stocks of any quality that appear to be going up.

Finally, some of these companies are turned into "business failure" case studies to show what went wrong operationally and where the company failed. This misses the point. Multiply number of shares sold times the sold-at price to decide if these ventures really failed their founders and early backers. Don't always chalk up "failure" to bad decision-making.

How do entrepreneurs make good decisions that will enhance the chances of building a successful business? What separates good decision-making from bad decision-making?

H.W. Lewis, author of Why Flip A Coin? The Art and Science of Good Decisions, summarizes decision making:

1. List your possible actions.

2. List the possible consequences of each action and the desirability (sometimes called "utility") of each consequence.

3. Try to evaluate the probability that each action will lead to a given consequence.

4. Choose the action which has the best expected outcome or utility.

Lewis writes, "It sounds complicated, but really isn't, and even trying to go through the process can force us to think. We don't have to do it perfectly to stay ahead of the game. In the real world, we don't have to do anything perfectly to stay ahead of the game."

Why Flip A Coin? is a fun-to-read book that will get you thinking. It should be required reading for all entrepreneurs. It discusses hedging (betting against yourself to come out ahead), Lancaster's Law (bigger armies tend to win, so, maybe, an uneasy partnership is better than no partnership), and decision-making in the face of competition. Plus, you'll learn all sorts of interesting tidbits, like the folly of the sacrifice fly in baseball, and the inherent difficulties in group decision-making.

Lewis says that one problem is not really knowing what we want to achieve through the decision. This is a problem with many product-based companies. Their goal is to create profitable products, but too often they do inadequate market research to know what their customers really want. It's difficult to create a high-demand product by guessing.

John Vinturella, author of The Entrepreneur's Fieldbook, writes about the value of focus groups. A struggling company with repeated product failures was being kept afloat by their one profitable product—a fish finder.

So, the company hired a market researcher who carefully selected a focus group. With her guidance, writes Vinturella, "They talked about the solitude, about the struggle of man versus fish, about the camaraderie with their buddies. With her nudging, they talked about depth finders: what they liked, how much they spent, where they bought them. Then she had the tapes transcribed and analyzed the contents, searching for oft-repeated verbs and common emotions."

Vinturella tells us two key factors emerged. The fishermen thought that fish finders were difficult to read in bright light and that they were too difficult to use. Previously, the company thought fishermen liked pushing buttons, the more the better. Knowing their market, the company's new product addressed the real concerns of the people who used it. The company went from struggling to being an industry leader.

Other companies, however, have had dismal results with poorly-led focus groups and customer surveys. Part of the problem is that to make good decisions people need to care about the outcome. Creating customer incentives to give useful marketing information is part of the market researcher's job.

Some entrepreneurs instinctively know a certain product or service is likely to be successful. But, this only comes from much industry experience. Vinturella says, "The process of creating or seizing an opportunity is less the result of a deliberate search than it is a mindset of maintaining a form of vigilance that is sensitized to business opportunity. This frequently relates to the prospective entrepreneur's current profession or interests...."

Vinturella also points out that many new entrepreneurs fail to distinguish between ideas and opportunities. He writes, "... A business idea is not a business opportunity until it is evaluated objectively and judged to be feasible. You may wish to choose two to five of the ideas that seem most promising for more detailed study. Trying to consider too many would spread your time, energy, and focus too thin. At the same time, if you focus too early on only one business idea, you are more likely to become attached to it, and could lose your objectivity."

Lewis agrees about the need to sample options and discusses The Dating Game in Why Flip A Coin? A person wishes to choose the most desirable mate (you can set your own criteria of desirability!) from among a pool of a hundred willing, potential spouses. You can only date each person once.

How do you select your mate? If you just select the first candidate who comes along, or randomly select one for that matter, your chances of getting the best is only 1/100. But, if you sample the first thirty-six candidates to get an idea of the quality of the field and select the next candidate that ranks higher than any of the first thirty-six, you have a 1/3 chance of winding up with the best. This is a tremendous improvement in your chances!

That's something to keep in mind when courting companies for investment. New angel investors should read many business plans before deciding where to commit their capital.

The same lesson applies to hiring potential employees, or even to bidding on items on eBay. Don't fear missing the great buy. Be thankful for the experience of sampling the population. Consider bidding on a gizmo. Buying the first gizmo will seldom give you the best gizmo deal. You don't know what gizmos tend to sell for. But, if you watch a few gizmo auctions, when the next gizmo comes up for auction, you'll have an idea of the range of prices at which gizmos tend to sell. And, you didn't have to do any math to enhance your chances of success!

I pointed out to Lewis that studies of successful entrepreneurs tend to show that they are overly optimistic, relative to what reality objectively seems to justify. If this is true, couldn't we conclude that more knowledge (and, hence, more effective decision-making) won't necessarily lead to more success? Isn't optimism conducive to success?

Lewis replied, "I don't really disagree that ignorance is sometimes bliss. On the other hand the argument that successful entrepreneurs are often successful because they took irrational risks misses the point that many unsuccessful would-be entrepreneurs are unsuccessful precisely because they were irrational. There are usually more failures than successes, so you have to be careful about how you normalize your data.... I once chaired a committee that looked into the rate of pilot error in the cockpit. The data, obtained by interviewing pilots, showed that they rarely made mistakes, and usually responded effectively to in-flight emergencies. Of course only surviving pilots were interviewed for the study."

Similarly, five years from now, much of the Internet Entrepreneurial Road Kill will have vanished from the stock market. Those investors and entrepreneurs who remember the ride will be a bit wiser for the experience.

Peter Hupalo

[validus]

Any other suggestions in starting up a business for the young entrepreneur?

Actually I'm planning to start my low-investment franchise this month. I decided to franchise for many advantageous reasons especially to learn more about the system and use it for myself in the future. Before I wanna start a Computer / Internet Shop but now it seems so costly and the ROI is so slow. So I finally decided on franchising food products that has originality on it so that a have a good market. Can anybody share what they are up to right now?

Thanks!

what originality do you have in mind? product originality? service originality? presentation originality? if you're thinking of something new to offer the market, i must say that i wouldn't be that easy. it normally takes a very long while for entrepreneurs to develop such products.

and one more thing.. simple lang naman gusto ng mga pinoy eh. they don't need anything fancy to satisfy their hunger or thirst (that is if you're thinking of a food cart biz). instead ask the same question to yourself.. what do i like? what are the things that take the most of my money and other people's money?.. such questions would give you a fair idea of what to conceptualize. take this into consideration. then make a feasibility study!

good luck!

[SILENTMAX]

thought for the day

"There is no use whatever trying to help people who do not help themselves. You cannot push anyone up a ladder unless he be willing to climb himself." - Andrew Carnegie

[validus]

^^ so true!

[SILENTMAX]

When youve got so much success in your pocket its soo easy to be condescending and ive seen this with young entrepreneurs. my self not excluded. we have to keep this in check. there are up times and then there are downtimes. but you should never ever think you are above someone just becouse you right now are very succesfull....
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CEOs say how you treat a waiter can predict a lot about character
http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20060414/bs_usatoday/ceossayhowyoutreatawaitercanpredictalotaboutcharacter
Office Depot CEO Steve Odland remembers like it was yesterday working in an upscale French restaurant in Denver.



The purple sorbet in cut glass he was serving tumbled onto the expensive white gown of an obviously rich and important woman. "I watched in slow motion ruining her dress for the evening," Odland says. "I thought I would be shot on sight."


Thirty years have passed, but Odland can't get the stain out of his mind, nor the woman's kind reaction. She was startled, regained composure and, in a reassuring voice, told the teenage Odland, "It's OK. It wasn't your fault." When she left the restaurant, she also left the future Fortune 500 CEO with a life lesson: You can tell a lot about a person by the way he or she treats the waiter.


Odland isn't the only CEO to have made this discovery. Rather, it seems to be one of those rare laws of the land that every CEO learns on the way up. It's hard to get a dozen CEOs to agree about anything, but all interviewed agree with the Waiter Rule.


They acknowledge that CEOs live in a Lake Wobegon world where every dinner or lunch partner is above average in their deference. How others treat the CEO says nothing, they say. But how others treat the waiter is like a magical window into the soul.


And beware of anyone who pulls out the power card to say something like, "I could buy this place and fire you," or "I know the owner and I could have you fired." Those who say such things have revealed more about their character than about their wealth and power.


Whoever came up with the waiter observation "is bang spot on," says BMW North America President Tom Purves, a native of Scotland, a citizen of the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland, who lives in New York City with his Norwegian wife, Hilde, and works for a German company. That makes him qualified to speak on different cultures, and he says the waiter theory is true everywhere.


The CEO who came up with it, or at least first wrote it down, is Raytheon CEO Bill Swanson. He wrote a booklet of 33 short leadership observations called Swanson's Unwritten Rules of Management. Raytheon has given away 250,000 of the books.


Among those 33 rules is only one that Swanson says never fails: "A person who is nice to you but rude to the waiter, or to others, is not a nice person."


Swanson says he first noticed this in the 1970s when he was eating with a man who became "absolutely obnoxious" to a waiter because the restaurant did not stock a particular wine.


"Watch out for people who have a situational value system, who can turn the charm on and off depending on the status of the person they are interacting with," Swanson writes. "Be especially wary of those who are rude to people perceived to be in subordinate roles."


The Waiter Rule also applies to the way people treat hotel maids, mailroom clerks, bellmen and security guards. Au Bon Pain co-founder Ron Shaich, now CEO of Panera Bread, says he was interviewing a candidate for general counsel in St. Louis. She was "sweet" to Shaich but turned "amazingly rude" to someone cleaning the tables, Shaich says. She didn't get the job.


Shaich says any time candidates are being considered for executive positions at Panera Bread, he asks his assistant, Laura Parisi, how they treated her, because some applicants are "pushy, self-absorbed and rude" to her before she transfers the call to him.


Just about every CEO has a waiter story to tell. Dave Gould, CEO of Witness Systems, experienced the rule firsthand when a waitress dumped a full glass of red wine on the expensive suit of another CEO during a contract negotiation. The victim CEO put her at ease with a joke about not having had time to shower that morning. A few days later, when there was an apparent impasse during negotiations, Gould trusted that CEO to have the character to work out any differences.


CEOs who blow up at waiters have an ego out of control, Gould says. "They're saying, 'I'm better. I'm smarter.' Those people tend not to be collaborative."


"To some people, speaking in a condescending manner makes them feel important, which to me is a total turnoff," says Seymour Holtzman, chairman of Casual Male Retail Group, which operates big-and-tall men's clothing stores including Casual Male XL.


How people were raised


Such behavior is an accurate predictor of character because it isn't easily learned or unlearned but rather speaks to how people were raised, says Siki Giunta, CEO of U.S. technology company Managed Objects, a native of Rome who once worked as a London bartender.

More recently, she had a boss who would not speak directly to the waiter but would tell his assistant what he wanted to eat, and the assistant would tell the waiter in a comical three-way display of pomposity. What did Giunta learn about his character? "That he was demanding and could not function well without a lot of hand-holding from his support system," she said.

It's somewhat telling, Giunta says, that the more elegant the restaurant, the more distant and invisible the wait staff is. As if the more important the customer, the less the wait staff matters. People view waiters as their temporary personal employees. Therefore, how executives treat waiters probably demonstrates how they treat their actual employees, says Sara Lee CEO Brenda Barnes, a former waitress and postal clerk, who says she is a demanding boss but never shouts at or demeans an employee.

"Sitting in the chair of CEO makes me no better of a person than the forklift operator in our plant," she says. "If you treat the waiter, or a subordinate, like garbage, guess what? Are they going to give it their all? I don't think so."

CEOs aren't the only ones who have discovered the Waiter Rule. A November survey of 2,500 by It's Just Lunch, a dating service for professionals, found that being rude to waiters ranks No. 1 as the worst in dining etiquette, at 52%, way ahead of blowing your nose at the table, at 35%.

Waiters say that early in a relationship, women will pull them aside to see how much their dates tipped, to get a read on their frugality and other tendencies. They are increasingly discussing boorish behavior by important customers at www.waiterrant.net and other blogs. They don't seem to mind the demanding customer, such as those who want meals prepared differently because of high blood pressure. But they have contempt for the arrogant customer.

Rule works with celebrities, too

The Waiter Rule also applies to celebrities, says Jimmy Rosemond, CEO of agency Czar Entertainment, who has brokered deals for Mike Tyson, Mario Winans and Guerilla Black. Rosemond declines to name names, but he remembers one dinner episode in Houston a few years back with a rude divisional president of a major music company.

When dinner was over, Rosemond felt compelled to apologize to the waiter on the way out. "I said, 'Please forgive my friend for acting like that.' It's embarrassing. They go into rages for simple mistakes like forgetting an order."

Rosemond says that particular music executive also treated his assistants and interns poorly - and was eventually fired.

Odland says he saw all types of people 30 years ago as a busboy. "People treated me wonderfully and others treated me like dirt. There were a lot of ugly people. I didn't have the money or the CEO title at the time, but I had the same intelligence and raw ability as I have today.

"Why would people treat me differently? Your value system and ethics need to be constant at all times regardless of who you are dealing with."

Holtzman grew up in the coal-mining town of Wilkes-Barre, Pa., and in the 1950s saw opportunity as a waiter 90 miles away in the Catskill Mountains, where customers did not tip until the end of the week. When they tipped poorly, he would say: "Sir, will you and your wife be tipping separately?"

"I saw a lot of character, or the lack thereof," says Holtzman, who says he can still carry three dishes in his right hand and two in his left.

"But for some twist of fate in life, they're the waiter and you're the one being waited on," Barnes says.

[omeng]

Jesus maria joseph !!!

Anong kababalaghang ito? :D


So, EB on April 29, Saturday. Around 5pm.

Makati Area, Public place.

Suggestion please. Will decide after tomorrow.

Buenas diaz to all. ;)

[omeng]

business oppurtunity for entreps with travel agencies

i need 3 resorts
camping resorts
one for beach (snorkeling)
one for mountains (nature)
one for historical
one week for each camping place
then 30 people max capacity

so basicaly i need 3 different resorts 1 for each week
it has to be clean becouse they are foreigners and it has to be cheap
we want them to come back again and we need to show them what filipino hospitality is all about
pls send quotes to rcjskala@gmail.com

edit add:
i also need COASTERS tourist coaster buses to rent for 3 weeks

sayang tol, di uubra ang resort ng kaibigan natin... www.campogranderesort.com

[aphyist]

hi guys! meron po bang may alam ng contact number ng mga bazaar organizers pati na din weekend markets? im very interested... jeniebsaphy@yahoo.com is my email ad, in case may mga infos kayo na gustong isend...maraming salamat...

[SILENTMAX]

helping out a friend


shop inside betty's closet!
pls shop at her virtual store
items below 200

http://bettyjoy01.multiply.com

[validus]

hi guys! meron po bang may alam ng contact number ng mga bazaar organizers pati na din weekend markets? im very interested... jeniebsaphy@yahoo.com is my email ad, in case may mga infos kayo na gustong isend...maraming salamat...

http://bazaarnow.blogspot.com/

[aphyist]

thanks validus!

[sharingan]

wala pa bang entrep night invitation or talagang walang entrep night this month?

[Krakista]

Sa 29th, somewhere near your workplace.

[SILENTMAX]

guys im thinking of opening my outsourcing business to my clients.

how would this work out. what percentage is viable to open this to my clients in exchange for venture capital money?

ive really ran out out seed capital for this. i want to hire more people but im so limited.

what percent can foreigners own a "telecom services" (anu ba sector to?outsourcing?) company?

mam. uwi ka na pinas. need ko advice :D

i was thinking 10 percent for a signifacant holding of this new venture in exchange for a paltry amount equivalent to a foreigners bottle of moet. or crystal....(pinot noir?)

[validus]

@silentmax: is this the one you were zealously guarding? san ka ba naka tie-up?

[Brice]

as young entrepreneur medyo mahirap pro rewarding atleastnagsimula ka sa small time and sa ibaba.

Pinaka hate ko.(big companies)
1. When asking for possible business transactions(lyk kuha ka supply sa kanila) they usually ignore you,(masyado kang minamaliit) i have a lot experience na ganito(merun isa loyal kami sa kanila bili products sa supermarkets or distributor pero nung medyo bulk orders na diretso kami sa kanila, una entertain pro nung nakita nila small time pa lang they said i'll contact u next week,pero wala ni isang call or text) so dahil sa incident na 2 i shifted sa imported brand(mas lower pa ang price) until now good business relationship kami ng importer nung product. and as now pinagaaralan ko na ren yung industry which yung belong yung nangmaliit sakin nun, im willing to invest and become a major competitor ng brand na yun, wala sila kalaban ganu, it might be "mataas ang aim" ko pro kakayanin ko hehe. humanda sila mga hambog sila hehe

[Brice]

as young entrepreneur medyo mahirap pro rewarding atleastnagsimula ka sa small time and sa ibaba.

Pinaka hate ko.(big companies)
1. When asking for possible business transactions(lyk kuha ka supply sa kanila) they usually ignore you,(masyado kang minamaliit) i have a lot experience na ganito(merun isa loyal kami sa kanila bili products sa supermarkets or distributor pero nung medyo bulk orders na diretso kami sa kanila, una entertain pro nung nakita nila small time pa lang they said i'll contact u next week,pero wala ni isang call or text) so dahil sa incident na 2 i shifted sa imported brand(mas lower pa ang price) until now good business relationship kami ng importer nung product. and as now pinagaaralan ko na ren yung industry which yung belong yung nangmaliit sakin nun, im willing to invest and become a major competitor ng brand na yun, wala sila kalaban ganu, it might be "mataas ang aim" ko pro kakayanin ko hehe. humanda sila mga hambog sila hehe

[validus]

hahaha. with a vengeance, eh? ayos lang yun. can you give a hint kung ano yung company na yun? usually ganun naman pag nagsisimula ka eh. kailangan mo munang magpakilala at gumawa ng magandang reputasyon. tapos dun pa lang nila malalaman na pwede ka na sa kanila. ok lang yan bro.

nasa entrep forum ka rin ba? parang nakikita kita dun.

good luck!

[SILENTMAX]

guys i need software programers with background in accounting

hospital needs accounting software for their operations...
lowest bid wins

guys the owners here are really thrifty when they say lowest bid. we mean lowest bid.

pls pm me for contact person and address hospital is located in gen trias in cepza.

@kakrista pards lam ko linya mo to. you can have first crack at this pm me or call me dude.

[SILENTMAX]

joke for the day

"An English princess with an Egyptian boyfriend crashes in a French
tunnel, driving a German car with a Dutch engine, driven by a Belgian who
was high on Scottish whiskey, followed closely by Italian Paparazzi, on
Japanese motorcycles, treated by an American doctor, using Brazilian
medicines! And this is sent to you by an filipino, using Bill Gates'
technology which he stole from the Japanese. And you are probably reading
this on one of the IBM clones that use Philippine-made chips, and Korean
made monitors, assembled by Bangladeshi workers in a Singapore plant,
transported by lorries driven by Malaysians, hijacked by Indonesians and
finally sold to you by a Chinese! which if the cpu gets broken you can call tech support in the us which will be re-routed to the philiphines and you can talk to a filipino who will not talk tagalog and but only english....

That's Globalization

i love outsourcing :D
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the philiphines has a chance at this... sugod mga kapwa sme's theres a big pie out there regarding outsourcing. find your niche and dream big!!!

[SILENTMAX]

hi. just helping out a friend...

can you guys all pass thing link around or link to it. or at least tell all your friends about it.

http://susanople.com/

its a blog :)

[validus]

the philiphines has a chance at this... sugod mga kapwa sme's theres a big pie out there regarding outsourcing. find your niche and dream big!!!

How do you suggest that to be done by the young entreps? particularly on the SME level? please enlighthen us master!

[tqbfjotld]

as young entrepreneur medyo mahirap pro rewarding atleastnagsimula ka sa small time and sa ibaba.

Pinaka hate ko.(big companies)
1. When asking for possible business transactions(lyk kuha ka supply sa kanila) they usually ignore you,(masyado kang minamaliit) i have a lot experience na ganito(merun isa loyal kami sa kanila bili products sa supermarkets or distributor pero nung medyo bulk orders na diretso kami sa kanila, una entertain pro nung nakita nila small time pa lang they said i'll contact u next week,pero wala ni isang call or text) so dahil sa incident na 2 i shifted sa imported brand(mas lower pa ang price) until now good business relationship kami ng importer nung product. and as now pinagaaralan ko na ren yung industry which yung belong yung nangmaliit sakin nun, im willing to invest and become a major competitor ng brand na yun, wala sila kalaban ganu, it might be "mataas ang aim" ko pro kakayanin ko hehe. humanda sila mga hambog sila hehe

haha nakakatuwa parang napanood ko na to sa pelikula ah :lol:

[SILENTMAX]

@validus. punta ka nang eb pre. kwentuhan nalang tayu nang mga kwentong barbero...



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WORK FOREVER!!!!
" They tell us that when someone is doing what they love, they're working at peak efficiency, have the highest productivity, and will make the most money!
taken from "Millionaire-Next-Door" and "The Millionaire Mind:

New motto: 'Work Forever'
http://cbs.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?dist=newsfinder&siteid=mktw&guid=%7b0636F531-C813-444C-BF5C-84A1558E915C%7d&symbol=&print=true&dist=printTop

[SILENTMAX]

@ validus... dude pare di ako master (secreto nang mga guapo)

you can call me max nalang. or pare, or repapips or dude.
racketeer lang ako. minsan siniswerte lang minsan palyado. pero sige parin nang sige.

di ako matalino. masipag lang (sabi nang iba workholic..ang negative naman...)

yan lang yun. ang secret is work hard and dont give up... tapos who knows baka ikaw swertehin ka rin ;)

"the harder i work, the luck'ier i get" -i forgot who's quote was this.

[SILENTMAX]

damn you BDO. "OVER EXPOSED MY BUTt" bpi took a chance at me. how come you wont?

watch pag umasenso tong new venture ko i will tell the world how a struggling entrepreneur was shown the door by BANCO DE ORO. (entrepreneur/sme friendly bank.... my butt.)

man... where am i now going to find captial for this venture...

arrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
this is so frigin frustrating...

[SILENTMAX]

im sorry bdo but i will post this and send this to all blogs forums and emails to everybody i know.

you say your a entrepreneur friendly bank you say your an sme friendly bank....

THEN PROVE IT!!!!

outsourcing is the future. how come you wont lend me money to prove it!!!!!

[SILENTMAX]

double post...

[decaf]

been in the oursourcing business since 2000 but our company was registered only in 2003. we do software, hardware, firmware development work for other companies. 3 of the products we developed were displayed in the recently concluded CeBIT - one of the largest technology trade show in the world

here's my 2 centavos worth regarding outsourcing...

there is a big pie out there. but be realistic about your dreams. your outsourcing business will allow you to have a comfortable life even after your retirement but it will not make you the new bill gates or even a don jaime zobel de ayala. the thing about outsourcing is it's very skilled labor intensive. if you want to grow you have to hire more people. your growth is linearly proportional to the number of skilled labor you hire - your employees are your main investment and there is a limit to this. whereas in product development, you can have exponential growth visa-a-vis your investment.

referrals are very important for a start up. the first few clients that we got are from referrals. contrary to what kevin costner said, if you build it they won't automatically come. tell your friends, relatives, classmates, neighbor's friend's classmate's fiance's dogwalker's uncle's mistress about your company. build website, join forums - like this one, mailing list, trade shows - later, if you already have money to spare.

know your overhead when making a bid. it's much larger than it seems, specially for start ups. you have to factor in the administrative cost, warranty cost - you have to provide support long after you have delivered the product, employee downtime - even when there are no new outsourced projects you still have to hold on to your employees because of the warranty previously mentioned.

do your homework before you approach any venture capitalist. what venture capitalists here and abroad are looking for are potential growth and/or sustainability. it may be making money now but will it still be making money 5 years from now when other players have entered the field. last month, together with other technology start ups, i presented our company to dada banatao - the most successful filipino engineer/entrepreneur/venture capitalist in silicon valley. the questions he asked me were: what's your differentiator? what makes our outsourcing company so special that it can do what other outsourcing companies in the philippines and india can't do?

based on experience lang po... can't claim to be an expert in outsourcing...

[SILENTMAX]

An open letter to

Mr Henry Sy

Take a chance on me sir. i know back then when you were starting out someone took a chance on you. What would have happened if the people who took chances on you never did? Take a chance on Entrepreneurs. Take a chance on YOUNG entrepreneurs. Take a chance on sme's. Take a chance on the outsourcing platform.

We are the future of the country. we are the ones extremely taking risks in this dimly lit country of ours. I know some will fail. But there are others who will succede. Outsourcing is my future I beleive in this with so much optimism and resolve. i know i am going to be "under too much exposure" when i get a loan from you, but i am the one taking all the risk. i know the risk i will be getting myself into. I know i am headstrong and a little bit optimistic, but you have to be this way if you do business in the philiphines. We are the ones who laugh madly at adversity while seeing the curruption,politicking and the deteriorating state of the Philipphines as a whole. Yet we still choose to do business here. We choose to STAY. I hope you can find it in your heart to give entrepreneurs a chance. Young or Old.

We are still here. WE choose to STAY. Give us a chance. Have faith in us.

Sincerely
A simple Young Entrepreneur
MAX


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guys if you have a blog or can spread this letter around pls do. i know some inq people are reading this forums. pls if you might find it in your heart to post it in inq(or other newspapers) i would be very much obliged.

[omeng]

Max, might help this one...

You are cordially invited by the Entrepreneurs Society of the
Philippines to its Entrepreneurs Business Forum.

Ma. Luna Cacanando-David of the Small Business Guarantee and Finance
Corporation will present the programs and facilities of this agency
under the Department of Trade. The focus of the talk will be on how
the agency can help SMEs with their financing requirements. Visit the
website at www.entrepreneursociety.com.ph to view the resume of the
guest speaker.

Date and time:
Thursday April 27, 2006 11:30 am - 2:30 pm

Venue:
Roces Room, Club Filipino, Greenhills, San Juan

Phone:
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[omeng]

nice inputs, decaf.

welcome aboard.

[omeng]

nice inputs, decaf.

welcome aboard.

[beefnmushroom]

whine, whine, whine

silentmax,

first, you curse and "threaten" banco de oro. after that, you dared them to take a risk. then your last move... you begged.

please don't assume that you're representing the young entrepreneurs (i'm not one of them because i'm not that young anymore). many of them do not resort to such cheap, childish tactics. many of them are more resourceful than that. besides, many of them do not even rely on banks for financing.


it bothers me to read something like this from a battle-hardened entrepreneur. it's very similar to this: "waaaah! mommy, bakit si bunso may kendi, ako wala? waaaaah! mabait din naman ako a, mataas din grades ko, bakit siya lang ang binigyan mo? waaaah!". so sad.

young entrepreneurs in the thread, i hope you look for other role models.

[beefnmushroom]

does anyone know of any successful entrepreneur who "whined his/her way to success"? i'm fond of case studies, and i think this will make an interesting case.

[elohai]

hi,

nice topic!
my problem is mainly marketing, computer software yung business namin. at medyo malaki na yung nagastos mga 50k++ kung i aad yung personal expense 100k++ pa
personal referral based kasi yung ganito (parang real estate) dahil malakihan yung babayarin ng customer.

within my personal network naman kkaunti lang yung interesado gusto pa nga libre nalang. *** instead of advertising it to newspapers or other forms of traditional marketing we just gave away our product.

madami na nga nagsasabi ibang line of business nalang yung pasukan ko pinagiisipan ko pa.

Jed
my free accounting software (http://elohai.livejournal.com)

[omeng]

Hi Guys! Update lang at confirmed nato... especially sa mga lurker young entrep :D

EB on 29 April, Saturday.

Venue: Superbowl of China (Glorieta II).

Time: 7pm


Please confirm your attendance (PM me). Don't worry about the food and drinks, it will be funded by Silentmax foundation. (no kiddin)

[decaf]

ano ba criteria dyan para makasama? is 32 still considered young?

[omeng]

Doesn't matter, decaf. I look 42. :D

We would be glad to meet you in flesh.

[omeng]

Double post...

[SILENTMAX]

tama ka. im not someone anybody should look up to. or be their role model... all i do is whine and dont do anything about my situation


T@nga ako. ang t@nga t@nga ko. sa sobrang katngahan ko i trusted my employees. t@nga talaga ako kasi nag bigay ako nang tiwala sa kanila.

T@nga ako kasi di naman talaga ako marunong mag negosyo di ako leader di ako organizer. di ako matalino.

napaka hinang klase akong tao. im stupid im ignorant in T@nga im bobo

wag kayong maniwala sakin puro kabobohan lang ang sinasabi ko. again. like ive said. im a nobody

i just use this thread as a platform (my own soapbox, some people have their blogs. i have my soap box) to voice out what i think.

if you find it usefull then good. if you think this is all Bulls%it then leave.

if you want to look up to somebody. look upto your parents. they should be your role model.
if you want others then read books and find your heroes in business (mine is sam walton and warren buffet. one of the cheapest and thriftiest people you will ever read about)

again all i do is whine and talk nonesense dont listen to me.

i will now step off my soapbox

__________________________________________
@omeng lunch break na namin dito. i just used my 1 hr break to post this be back at 1am.
oras nang ibang bansa nga naman....

[Trevi]

do your homework before you approach any venture capitalist. what venture capitalists here and abroad are looking for are potential growth and/or sustainability. it may be making money now but will it still be making money 5 years from now when other players have entered the field. last month, together with other technology start ups, i presented our company to dada banatao - the most successful filipino engineer/entrepreneur/venture capitalist in silicon valley. the questions he asked me were: what's your differentiator? what makes our outsourcing company so special that it can do what other outsourcing companies in the philippines and india can't do?

based on experience lang po... can't claim to be an expert in outsourcing...

Hi to all !! :)

@decaf....we should take your advice seriously... If you can talk and present in person to THE man (Its DADO (for Conrado - not Dada) that can make BILL GATES (a first hand account of my partner-for-life) wait during (for a one-on-one) an IT convention / fair in Las Vegas Nevada in 2002. I doff my hat to you *okay* You could be the next poster boy of Filipino IT specialist.........do us proud...we all need inspiring stories. I hope you get him as VC :bop: :)

[SILENTMAX]

whine, whine, whine

silentmax,

first, you curse and "threaten" banco de oro. after that, you dared them to take a risk. then your last move... you begged.

please don't assume that you're representing the young entrepreneurs (i'm not one of them because i'm not that young anymore). many of them do not resort to such cheap, childish tactics. many of them are more resourceful than that. besides, many of them do not even rely on banks for financing.


it bothers me to read something like this from a battle-hardened entrepreneur. it's very similar to this: "waaaah! mommy, bakit si bunso may kendi, ako wala? waaaaah! mabait din naman ako a, mataas din grades ko, bakit siya lang ang binigyan mo? waaaah!". so sad.

young entrepreneurs in the thread, i hope you look for other role models.


man screw this you cant judge me. you dont even know me

you dont know the preasure i face from my family from my relatives and from some friends

you dont see the disapointing look on my dad's face when i fail

you dont know that i promised my grandfather that i will become rich on my own accord when he was about to die.
i will become rich or die trying.

you dont know that today i was seriously thinking jumping in front of a speeding jeepney.

you dont know that there are times at night when i want to point a gun to my head and blow my brains out

hell im worth more dead than alive anyway (i have my parents to thank for that)

to me failure is detrimental to my health

I am willing to die for this.

[beefnmushroom]

tama ka. im not someone anybody should look up to. or be their role model... all i do is whine and dont do anything about my situation

T@nga ako. ang t@nga t@nga ko. sa sobrang katngahan ko i trusted my employees. t@nga talaga ako kasi nag bigay ako nang tiwala sa kanila.

T@nga ako kasi di naman talaga ako marunong mag negosyo di ako leader di ako organizer. di ako matalino.

napaka hinang klase akong tao. im stupid im ignorant in T@nga im bobo

wag kayong maniwala sakin puro kabobohan lang ang sinasabi ko. again. like ive said. im a nobody


whatever you say



if you want to look up to somebody. look upto your parents. they should be your role model.
not necessarily

[beefnmushroom]

man screw this you cant judge me. you dont even know me

you dont know the preasure i face from my family from my relatives and from some friends

you dont see the disapointing look on my dad's face when i fail

you dont know that i promised my grandfather that i will become rich on my own accord when he was about to die.
i will become rich or die trying.

you dont know that today i was seriously thinking jumping in front of a speeding jeepney.

you dont know that there are times at night when i want to point a gun to my head and blow my brains out

hell im worth more dead than alive anyway (i have my parents to thank for that)

to me failure is detrimental to my health

I am willing to die for this.

tindi ng contrast ng last two posts mo a.

you used to make a lot of sense (one of only a few people in this thread). but since you're using the forum as a sounding board, it gave me an opportunity to judge you (everyone is judging everyone else, whether you like it or not), based on what you write. if you had presented your side properly by using carefully chosen words, my respect for you would have skyrocketed.

it all started when you claimed that you are a "battle-hardened" entrepreneur, when nobody was claiming otherwise. but you backed it up with whiny posts. and now you're contemplating suicide?

i read this quote somewhere (i think it was from a pinoyexchange thread as well):
"pressure can do two things: burst water pipes, or create diamonds"
what is pressure doing to you?

[SILENTMAX]

all your doing is pushing people to the edge.

is this what helps you sleep at night?

[SILENTMAX]

Boss kd. pasensya na medyo mag advertise lang muna ako.

comercial lot right for sale
assumed balance scenario
cuevasville subdivision Molino bacoor
walking distance from sm molino. 10 mins from alabang town center
300ft away from verdana homes and the Verdana Town Center

comercial lot.
block 14 lot 11 lot area 120sqm

total selling price 1m

of the 45% down down payment. there is still an outstanding P124,350 left
of the 55% balance payable in 5 years
you will have to pay 12,439.20 every month

i will try to get pics of the lot. theres already a partialy built building near it. its a preatty nice place to setup a business.
all i need are offers. any real offers.

Lot For Sale Dasmarinas Cavite, southplains executive subdivision
for sale by owner
2 adjoined lots 164 sq/m each for sale at dasmarinas cavite
easter morning frontage.
clean papers already verified by bpi bank
asking price is 4000 per sq/m but still negotiable
pls call or txt 09224245155 for inquiries
or pm me. or send email at dacionenpago@yahoo.com
http://pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?p=14195977#post14195977

pls if may ka kilala kayu na buyer pa forward. finders fee for brokers

all i need are offers. any real substancial offers.

[Krakista]

my problem is mainly marketing, computer software yung business namin. at medyo malaki na yung nagastos mga 50k++ kung i aad yung personal expense 100k++ pa. personal referral based kasi yung ganito (parang real estate) dahil malakihan yung babayarin ng customer.

within my personal network naman kkaunti lang yung interesado gusto pa nga libre nalang. *** instead of advertising it to newspapers or other forms of traditional marketing we just gave away our product.Viral marketing is the way to go with software. Giving it away free is one way of doing viral marketing. If you want to go on the fast track, sneak into a tradeshow and give away CD's of your software.
madami na nga nagsasabi ibang line of business nalang yung pasukan ko pinagiisipan ko pa.I also get such feedback. This is a line of business that does not reap dividends immediately as the process of building such software for sale is long and arduous. However, you have to decide whether you are in the intellectual property business, software contracting, or technical support business or all of them. Take note there are some free and opensource softwares out there already like TurboCASH (http://sourceforge.net/projects/turbocash/) and if you're merely into providing support, you might as well spare yourself the process of reinventing.

[b]Hi Guys! Update lang at confirmed nato... especially sa

mga lurker young entrep :D

EB on 29 April, Saturday.

Venue: Superbowl of China (Glorieta II).Hey, wasn't it me who initially sounded a meetup or an EB on the 29th? Anyway, you go ahead with it and I'll just go ahead with what I had started since invites had already gone out. This one will be held in Libreria in Tomas Morato. For those interested, please PM me for an invite. :)

(Its DADO (for Conrado - not Dada)Actually, it's Diosdado. :)

[SILENTMAX]

Thought for the day

"Spent so many years being a hard-working entrepreneur......... and all i got was this lousy T-shirt"

[omeng]

No, it's Diosdada. :D

Kraks, cencia na at napag-utusan lang ako. :D Check your PM

Dude Max, keep your cool. 'Di ka na nasanay kay pareng Beefs.

[omeng]

Morning Guys!!!

Merge na lang yung ke Kraks sa Tomas Morato.

Here's the details;

Libreria Books & Coffee ( http://www.malaya.com.ph/nov14/livi1.htm )
184 Tomas Morato Avenue,
Quezon City

29 April 2006 4:00PM, Saturday

Kraks, ano pinaka-landmark nito? Thanks

[Krakista]

Libreria (http://www.malaya.com.ph/nov14/livi1.htm) is beside 7-11 and opposite Grappa's. UCC Coffee and Teriyaki Boy are on its neighboring block. Its closest major intersection is that of Roces Avenue.

You may bring your laptops for presentations. WiFi and AC power is free.

[decaf]

Hi to all !! :)

@decaf....we should take your advice seriously... If you can talk and present in person to THE man (Its DADO (for Conrado - not Dada) that can make BILL GATES (a first hand account of my partner-for-life) wait during (for a one-on-one) an IT convention / fair in Las Vegas Nevada in 2002. I doff my hat to you *okay* You could be the next poster boy of Filipino IT specialist.........do us proud...we all need inspiring stories. I hope you get him as VC :bop: :)


yup. it's dado. sorry for the typo error.

gusto ko man magyabang na na-meet ko si dado in person pero the reality is it's not a one on one meeting. there are 10 us, technology start ups, that presented to him when he visited manila last month. i don't think i'll get him as vc anytime soon. mukhang hindi outsourcing yung gusto nya. but it was still a good learning experience. advice nya sa amin is to use outsourcing only to gain r&d experience and para magkapag-ipon ng pera. the big margin is in product development. actually yun din yung plano namin pero siniguro muna namin na we have a stable bread and butter in outsourcing before we invest in developing our own product/application

[Trevi]

@decaf..you are off to a good start. Not everyone is given the chance to meet a legend (some even PAY to hear legends talk in seminars) and be within 5/10 meters away from one. I hope the wonder dust rubs off on you...for the meantime, why not try DOY VEA's group? I am sure you know him and his capabilities. Good luck :-)

@SilentMax - Relax, my friend. Sometimes, the problems are not big as it seems. Panic only serves to exacerbate.

@Omeng / Krakista - Its about time for another EB, though I am sorry I could not join this one. However, should this extend to after 9pm, Omeng just text me, I might be able to join.

@beefnmushroom - Your presence was sorely missed. Welcome back.

[SILENTMAX]

clearing the noise:
clearing the mechanism

business notes:
wouldnt you know it. if this isnt pointing me in the right direction i wouldnt know what will....

i got a contract to update websites daily today.... it was the darnest thing becouse i wouldnt have thought that my clients would have other uses for my services.. and they found other ways to outsource their business to me.

one of my goals this year was to turn on a dime. it was easier said than done.
ive gotten so complacent and rather a little big that it has become harder for me to move. still i have to dispatch my mall branch and concentrate on my main branch. mall branch is only 26 strong but main branch's capacity can be extended to 40 strong with overflow capacity bringing it to 60 strong. preaty soon i will lock this down and convert the whole damn thing into outsourcing. the funny thing still is this is all words and plans nothing real yet.

my movement feels like a friggin 10 wheeler truck so slow to move and have to cover a wide range just to turn..... i need to turn on a dime...... like a porsche.

[SILENTMAX]

@mam trevi
mam pasencia na. it must be the cavitenio blood in me, add to this the american culture and you get a preatty messed up kid.

mam don't you sometimes feel the cavitenio blood in you wanting to fight for what you believed in?
i believe in entrepreneurship. i believe in filipino's

i am Proud.... ney... damn PROUD to be a Filipino....(warts and all.)




they say that back then cavite produced so many generals. Young kids who fought(and died) for what they believed in.

one of them was Aguinaldo.

[ate germs]

maybe you should instead refocus your target market and make the needed adjustments.

go primarily for clients in the industrial sector. sell your dishwashing liquid to small restos, small bars, small hotels and the like. that way you'll avoid competition in the grocery/supermarket level where the customers are mostly guided and influenced by what they see and hear in the media. dyan pa lang lamang na lamang ang mga big companies na malaki ang advertising budget.

tapos mas madali mawala ang hiya mo kung mag deal ka w/ people exposed in the business side of things kasi you'll be dealing w/ them on a professional level. just be prepared w/ your presentation *okay*

just my two cents. hope this helps :)
hi baludoy. tnx for the tip on focusing sa industrial sector. balitaan ko kayo ng updates sa biz ko.

[decaf]

they say that back then cavite produced so many generals. Young kids who fought(and died) for what they believed in.

one of them was Aguinaldo.


aguinaldo? wasn't he the one who ordered the bonifacio brothers killed, betrayed the revolution for a few thousand pesos (pact of biak na bato), was sued by his fellow 'patriots' in hong kong for embezzlement of the biak-na-bato money, returned to the philippines after receiving money and arms from the united states and to escape trial in hong kong, pledged allegiance to the united states during the phil-american war? :)

[omeng]

yesterday was a long day. today will be longer. :(

fight till the last drop of blood !?!?

[SILENTMAX]

@decaf


pards. maybe diosdado doesnt get it yet. let him not get it. its his ideas. if he's blind to outsourcing then let him be.

we are on the right track. Globalization will not hurt the philiphines. it will help us. The WORLD IS FLAT now. anything that can be done over the internet can be done in the philphines. and this encompases all things it. sme's and large corporation alike will be in the same level playing field. the garage startup dream has arrived in the philiphines. we have the technology we have the people we have the infrastructure.(thank god for pldt bringing fiber optics here.... finaly. You rock MVP) .

My vision of the philiphines is so bright. we just have to "not" shoot ourselves in the foot. in 2-3 years mining will surpass all others as the primary source of our gdp. it will help us so much. cant you see the philiphines is so rich in mineral resources. we have so much of this. yet its all underground.... Outsourcing will take a foothold in our lives. night will turn into day and days will turn into night. you see mcdonalds going 24/7 you see jolibee following suit. Our future is soo bright. all we need is people to see it. we need our sme's to push the envelope. we need people to try things out. This is what im passionate about and ive chosen this as my dream and im hanging on for dear life.

pards
if he cant see this. and he see's outsourcing as something small. then let him be. let him believe in his dreams while we believe in ours.

[decaf]

aguinaldo? wasn't he the one who ordered the bonifacio brothers killed, betrayed the revolution for a few thousand pesos (pact of biak na bato), was sued by his fellow 'patriots' in hong kong for embezzlement of the biak-na-bato money, returned to the philippines after receiving money and arms from the united states and to escape trial in hong kong, pledged allegiance to the united states during the phil-american war? :)

let me retract my statements about aguinaldo. don't want to step on anybody's toes. consider me an inept amateur historian trying to be cute kahit hindi naman :)

[Krakista]

pards. maybe diosdado doesnt get it yet. let him not get it. its his ideas. if he's blind to outsourcing then let him be.It's just that he's on a different plane or on the other side of this outsourcing thingie. In case you didn't know, he and Gordon Campbell founded Chips & Technologies back in 1985 which precipitated the attack of the clones which are presently the ubiquitous PCs. Outsourcing has been around for a long time, he's certainly not blind to that. I'll bet he outsourced manufacture of those C&T chipsets and the popular S3 graphics cards somewhere here in Asia.@Omeng / Krakista - Its about time for another EB, though I am sorry I could not join this one. However, should this extend to after 9pm, Omeng just text me, I might be able to join.It's very likely we'll go beyond 9PM but we'll prolly be in some open air grill place a few hundred meters away as someone's picking the tab for the red wine and possibly the beer too.

[elohai]

Thank you for your advice!
I saved it on my PC and would read it over and over again!

What do you think about using Direct Selling software? believe it or not i tried selling it to grocries and internet cafes.. on groceries, i spoked to some managers but most of them 45-60 yrs old dont wanna bother spending their time and money on "Computers". I did receive feedback that "Hindi kami interesado". on Internet cafes its either we could not contact the Owner himself. its always the cafe attendant. may masungit pa nga. After these we decided to give away our software. kung paano kami kikita siguro bahala na yun. basta gusto namin may gumamit muna ng ginawa namin sayan naman kasi.

What do you think?

Viral marketing is the way to go with software. Giving it away free is one way of doing viral marketing. If you want to go on the fast track, sneak into a tradeshow and give away CD's of your software.
I also get such feedback. This is a line of business that does not reap dividends immediately as the process of building such software for sale is long and arduous. However, you have to decide whether you are in the intellectual property business, software contracting, or technical support business or all of them. Take note there are some free and opensource softwares out there already like TurboCASH (http://sourceforge.net/projects/turbocash/) and if you're merely into providing support, you might as well spare yourself the process of reinventing.

Hey, wasn't it me who initially sounded a meetup or an EB on the 29th? Anyway, you go ahead with it and I'll just go ahead with what I had started since invites had already gone out. This one will be held in Libreria in Tomas Morato. For those interested, please PM me for an invite. :)

Actually, it's Diosdado. :)

jed
free accounting software (http://elohai.livejournal.com)

[SILENTMAX]

pards.pasensya na. if i might have offended you, and your hero. its just ive only heard of dado here in the philiphines, and also from mam tina... ok ill tell you a short story about where im coming from( guys pasensya na i love telling stories, i am a story teller like my dad. mga kwentong barbero talaga. if writting only made as much money as entrepreneuring...)

i grew up in silicon valley. from elementary to highschool. my dad was working at that time for U.s. courier as a humble messenger. he would tell me great stories about the guys at Next. and then he would tell me of a guy who was really fun and cool. he sometimes signed for the packges in his shorts. even though it was a really fancy office. he's name was steve jobs..... my dad would tell me about the grand parties he saw at apple. He would tell me of how simple mr jobs was. of how mr jobs would release chickens in the compound and his people would chase after it to get a prize. he's route would encircle san jose. milpitas and all around silicon valley. his life was delivering messages to tech companies and some now defunc startups. his stories were the stuff i grew up on, the stuff of legends. back then we would go around silicon valley looking for cheap used computer parts. and how my first pc was an across/acer 386. he encouraged me to be involved with computers. he showed me the way and i walked the path of learning. learned all about pc's as much as i can. i grew up on prodigy and compuserve. i grew up on Sanfrancisco's coolest bbs the Khaos phaktory. back then i was so much into the american culture i thought i was american too. i was proud to be american.. even if i was not. needless to say that going back to the philiphines was one of the best things that ever happened to me. here i am a filipino. i brought my patriotism here, now as a filipino. i brim with pride and joy, and shout out that FILIPINO AKO. and this is where i will stay.


i was always hard on myself for not being there when the tech bubble hit. where millions were made out of ideas. and ideas alone.i missed the boat.(i was still in high schoold then) im now making up for lost time. working hard and keeping pace. i hope i make it. mr jobs and the guys from yahoo were my "tech" heroes. add to that now Larry Page and Sergey Brin.


this story was brought to you by the letters J, the fruit apple and the number 9

PBS channel 9 would not be possible without funding from viewers like you...

PBS Rocks... (yeah i know we didnt have cable back then..)

[SILENTMAX]

nananawagan

to the guy connected with oriental.

pre.

im sure by now youve heard of what happened to my sister. how could you guys treat her that way?.

look all she asked was 5 mins to upgrade her pc in the lobby as we dont allow people upstairs.. how could you deny her this just becouse were filipino?.... how come when its a foreigner you guys look the other way... i know oriental has a lot of foreigners. but dont treat us this way just because were filipino.

how do you propose we sell to our korean associates oriental as a good site for an international language school. if your Admin made the philiphine head of this international language school cry...

look just because were not foreigners. dont treat us as 2nd class citizens in our own country. my sister already has had already problems with this in borcay. why do you this in our own home?

[Krakista]

What do you think about using Direct Selling software? believe it or not i tried selling it to grocries and internet cafes.. on groceries, i spoked to some managers but most of them 45-60 yrs old dont wanna bother spending their time and money on "Computers". I did receive feedback that "Hindi kami interesado". on Internet cafes its either we could not contact the Owner himself. its always the cafe attendant. may masungit pa nga. After these we decided to give away our software. kung paano kami kikita siguro bahala na yun. basta gusto namin may gumamit muna ng ginawa namin sayan naman kasi.

What do you think?I am not an expert on Direct Selling or Marketing of software. The only advice I can give is think in terms of the customer's benefits when selling your software. What's in it for them? Give them a free trial.

I've already called LIBRERIA and confirmed our reservations for 4PM tomorrow. SILENTMAX, omeng, Trevi, zimdude, Codeboy, MickeyREN, Dr. Benny, sharingan, and the man (http://www.magicalogic.com) who did PGH, hope to see you all. For those who'd be making a last minute decision to come, you may call or text me at my secondary cell at +639168906341.

[SILENTMAX]

At a time when Leaders are so hungry for power. lets look at a leader. who decided to

step back and let others lead.

_______________________________________________________________
The Manila Times
Sept 80 1967
Hall of Fame (Column)
by Sol H. Gwekok


L. Topacio: builder of Zapote fort

Had not the brave and fearless General Licerio Topacio Cuenca of Cavite given way to his

young and gallant provincemate, General Emilio Aguinaldo, history would have taken a

different course. But instead of assuming presidency of the Revolutionary Goverment

which was originally offered to him, Topacio let Aguinaldo have it by endorsing

wholehearted his nomination during the momentous Imus convention in 1897.

When aguinaldo was advised of his election to this exalted position, he was at his

camp in Pasong Santol, a barrio of Imus, busy directing the skirmishes with the Spanish

enemy. Despite the summon that he take his oath of office and assume the new post, he

refused to leave the battlefield. Only after a second summon had been sent to him that

he agreed to go and lead his fellow Rebels in the common cause.

Aguinald who was ever grateful to the Imus PATRIOT, sought in return, Topacio's

advice when-ever he was faced with serious and perplexing political matters that needed

immediate and sound judgement from him whom he held in highregard and absolute

confidence.

It was bruited about that Topacio was the lone associate of Aguinaldo who could

approach him and cheer him up from the discouragement which he suffered constantly

during the revolutionary days, especially when he began encountering military reverses

from the Spanish forces who invaded Cavite and the surrounding provinces.

So solicitous was Topacio for aguinaldo's welfare that he even looked after his

morale by boosting it whenever he found it exceedingly low, and by making Aguinaldo

regain his composure and return to him the entusiasm and interest in persuing further

the war efforts. In this manner he saved Aguinaldo on several Occasions, and saw him

rise to prominence and fame.

In the set-up of the revoutionary goverment, Topacio was named a member of the

cabinent with his appointment as the ministro de fomento. As his duties were similar to

those of the military engineer today, he became Aguinaldo's project engineer and

supervised the field work of the revolutionary army.

Topacio was the first high ranking Filipino rebel official not only to plan out but also to build actually the fortification of the Zapote bridge in Zapote in February 1897.

For his invaluable service and outstanding achievements to the revolutionary movement as

well as for his extraordinary courage and fighting spirit, Topacio was given the rank of

"General of the Revolution."

A native of Imus, Cavite, Topacio was born on Aug 27, 1839. He was 85 when he died on

April 19, 1925.

Topacio joined the Katipunan secret society soon after its introduction in Cavite

Province. He was among the first Katipunan members to urge Supremo Andress Bonifacio to

wage a revolution against Spain in his desire to put the numerous abuses being commited

by the Spanish officials of the administration on the filipino people.

One of the two local Heroes of Imus - the other being Colonel Felipe Topacio who was

with Colonels Bonso and Pawa in the Command of the Aguinaldo Troops that Captured the

Bonifacio brothers, Andress and Procopio, at the Limbon, Indang Cavite - Topacio was

Recently honored by the Municipal council with renaming of the town plaza to "General

Licerio Topacio"

[SILENTMAX]

@mam

you see mam. history likes to repeat itself... its fate i tell you ;)

[Krakista]

EB ongoing right now here at Libreria. 8 of us in attendance. You can still catch us as we'll be around much longer.

[SILENTMAX]

Thought for the day

"If you want to test a mans true character, give him power"


absolute power, absolutely corrupts .......

[lehboy]

sayang guys i wasn't able to attend, had our company outing last night. maybe next time.

[SILENTMAX]

I think i just had my first Billion dollar idea (with pinky finger on the lips)

omg. it was a eureka moment like a lightbulb flashing above my head.

Id like to thank Beef for pushing me to the edge. Nothing like Being pushed to the edge to get your creative juices flowing. man i hate your guts, but you rock.
im tired, angry, hungry, bouncing off the walls, Half past CRAZY. but im loving it.



here's how it happened.

i had a friend from cebu come over. i let slip about my outsourcing while we were drinking coffee. and i pitched my idea without even thinking about it.... (wait wait. first i said out the idea, then i thought to myself hey that sounds good.... then later realized it was a brilliant idea.) all bes said was "thats probably going to take a lot of money" i couldnt beleive how my original plan was so small. i was looking at the problem and not at the solution. If they could pay 1000 americans(higher than min wage salary) to do this over the net. then why cant we pay 1000 filipino's to do this over the net?.......... lets outsource it right away.



man oh man. im so pumped right now. its probably a couple of million dollar's easy if this idea flies. but if i play my cards right. it could become a billion.

[SmartKid]

CASHFLOW ® 101 WORKSHOP for the month of MAY: http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=251748

[SILENTMAX]

mam... take a look at this..

Sunday, October 17, 2004
THE OTHER VIEW
By Elmer A. Ordonez
Bonifacio in Cavite


Participants at the recent conference on local and national history held in Indang, Cavite visited two historical landmarks connected to Andres Bonifacio in his ill-fated trip to the province.

The first is the Bonifacio monument in barrio Limbong near the conference site, where the hero was arrested by officers of the newly formed Philippine revolutionary government, headed by Emilio Aguinaldo. The other is the bahay na bato in Maragondon where Bonifacio and his brother Procopio were tried for treason and condemned to death.

The other site to visit could have been the place in a nearby mountain where Bonifacio and his brother were executed. But then its inaccessibility must have deterred the conference organizers from making it a part of the sightseeing trip.

Otherwise, one looks in vain for any other monument (street or plaza) in the province of Cavite honoring Bonifacio who organized and led the Katipunan in the early stage of the revolution. One realizes that Cavite is Aguinaldo country where the general and president of the First Philippine Republic is fully revered, and Bonifacio and those who fled to Cavite—the only province under rebel hands—are still referred to as “alsa balutan.”

From experience, I know the subject of Bonifacio meeting his end in Cavite is a sensitive subject, and I have seen colleagues in University of the Philippines, Diliman, lashing out at Aguinaldo and his men for “killing” Bonifacio. I was myself criticized for using the “neutral” word “executed” instead of “killed” to describe (in my book on Aguinaldo for young readers) what happened to Bonifacio in Cavite. On the other hand, having come from U.P. I was once accused of being pro-Bonifacio by a Caviteño.

Now retired and settled in Imus, Cavite with my wife who is a great-granddaughter of Gen. Licerio Topacio, a close adviser of Aguinaldo, am I, identified with U.P., now immune from suspicions of being a Bonifacio partisan? And having written on Cavite leaders Topacio and Aguinaldo I am not exactly appreciated by some colleagues in Diliman who are indeed Bonifacio partisans.

Much has been said about the clannishness of Caviteños—particularly “cavi*tismo” (as if it were an affliction) during the 1896 Revolution. Of course, the people of Cavite take pride in the role their forbears played at the time; e.g. the first Filipino victory over Spanish forces led by General Aguirre was won in Imus on September 1, 1896, followed by heroically fought battles in Binakayan, Noveleta, Zapote, Pasong Santol, and later Alapan where the Philippine flag was first unfurled. The national anthem was written by a Caviteño, and of course, the First Philippine Republic was led by Aguinaldo.

The late Isagani Medini, U.P. professor of history, was himself a Bonifacio partisan (cf. his biography of Bonifacio published by Tahanan Books), but when he, upon retirement, continued his research on Cavite and touched on the events and personages of the 1896 Revolution, he began to see more objectively the role of Aguinaldo.

The comprehensive history of Cavite (through grassroots accounts and local history) is now being undertaken by the Cavite Studies Center (headed by a U.P. Ph.D. Emmanuel Calairo from Novaliches) of De La Salle University in Dasmariñas. The Cavite Historical Society led by Cesar A. Virata, grandson of General Baldomero Aguinaldo, president of the Magdalo Council of the Katipunan, now has chapters in all the towns of Cavite—which serve to make the locals historically conscious.

U.P. Professor Bernardita Reyes Churchill, a descendant of General Pantaleon Garcia and president of the National Historical Society (founded before the war), pledged at the Indang conference to continue the work of Isagani Medina on Cavite.

The Indang conference itself (organized by Churchill and Calairo) which had for its theme “Focus on Cavite and Beyond” generated scholarly papers adding to the growing body of historical writing under the rubric “local history in the context of national history.”

Hopefully the work of sincere historians will help illumine a dark chapter of our history and heal the wounds in our racial memory—such that Andres Bonifacio will be given his due as a national hero, honored throughout the land especially in the province of Cavite where he met his end.



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http://sayoc.com/article_info.php?articles_id=8&osCsid=bf5b80456e4840f75edb29da322fbf41
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http://www.geocities.com/kabitenyo1/toplice.htm
LICERIO TOPACIO (1839-1925)

A SIGNIFICANT point in history concerning Licerio Topacio needs clarification. One biographer, Sol H. Gwekoh, says that had Topacio not gallantly given way to a young man, Emilio Aguinaldo, he would have been the leader of the Philippine Revolutionary. Another biographer, Benjamin M. Bolivar, claims that Topacio “declined the honor” when Aguinaldo offered him the leadership of the Revolution.

Collating and analyzing all the facts involved in this particular case, what really happened was the following:

Because of the on-going Lachambre offensive in Magdalo territory, only eight Magdalo leaders were able to attend the Tejeros Convention on March 22, 1897. They were Baldomero Aguinaldo, Daniel Tria Tirona, Felix Cuenca, Cayetano Topacio, Crispulo Aguinaldo, Antonio Montenegro, and an unidentified Magdalo leader. Except for Montenegro and this unidentified leader they were all members of the Magdalo Council or Government.

Licerio Topacio was the eldest of the Magdalo leaders present. In deference to his age he must have been considered by the group for nomination as president of the Revolutionary Government to be established. But he declined because he was too old (58) and that the presidency needed a younger, stronger man. The next choice was Emilio Aguinaldo, who was absent, defending the strategic Pasong Santol in Dasmariñas against repeated assaults by Lachambre’s troops.

It was an excellent and lucky choice. Aguinaldo was elected president of the Revolutionary Government in absentia.

Looking back to this crucial incident in our history, it cannot be denied that Aguinaldo had a big edge over Topacio not only in age (28) d stamina but also in military experience and prestige. After the Battle of Imus (September 3, 1896) and the Battle of Binakayan (November 9-11), Aguinaldo’s prestige as a military leader had risen like a meteor, making him a living legend. It was this image as a living legend, more than anything else that won for Aguinaldo the majority votes in the Magdiwang dominated Tejeros Convention.

Had Licerio Topacio, instead of Aguinaldo, been nominated in the Tejeros Convention, the chances were that he might have been decisely beaten by a younger and more famous man, Andres Bonifacio, the Katipunan Supremo and Haring Bayan (king) of the Magdiwang Council or government. Of course, with such an outcome “history would have been taken a different course,’ as claimed by biographer Gwekoh.

Born in Imus, Cavite, on August 27, 1839, to Miguel Topacio, a former gobernadorcillo, and Marta Cuenco, the young Licerio finished his studies in Imus. He was not able to pursue higher education in Manila. But he kept on developing his inborn talent by self-study, and when the Revolution broke out he showed exceptional leadership in battle.

After the Philippine-American War Topacio was twice appointed as municipal president of Imus. He died on April 19, 1925 at the age of 86.

[Source: (1) Sol h. Gwekoh, “Licerio Topacio: Builder of Zapote Fort,”Hall of Fame, Manila Times, August 10, 1967; (2) Benjamin M Bolivar,” A Historical Study of the Town of Imus,” unpublished M.A. thesis, 1965; (3) Emilio Aguinaldo, Mga Gunita ng Himagsikan, Copyright by Mrs. Cristina Aguinaldo Suntay. Manila, 1964; and (4) Memoirs of General Artemio Ricarte. Manila, National Historical Commission, 1963.]

[SILENTMAX]

Thought for the day

If you read the articles. even aguinaldo didnt want to be president. he just wanted to fight for what he beleived in..... gusto lang dati nila ang isang bagay... ang ikabubuti nang ating bansa...

its a big contrast right now when you see everybody wanting to become president.. or prime minister or just wants power....

Lets all work together guys. tama na yan lets all just work together para sa ikabubuti nang ating bansa.

[SILENTMAX]

joke for the day


this is how the english dialect has impacted other countries....
__________________________________________________________
OFFICIAL LANGUAGE FOR EUROPEAN UNION CHANGED
From German To English

The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the European Union rather than German, which was the other possibility.

As part of the negotiations, the British Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5-year phase-in plan that would become known as "Euro-English".

In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c." Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy.

The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of "k." This should klear up konfusion, and keyboards kan have one less letter.

There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f." This will make words like fotograf 20% shorter.

In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible.

Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling.

Also, al wil agre that the horibl mes of the silent "e" in the languag is disgrasful and it should go away.

By the 4th yer people wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v".

During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and after ziz fifz yer, ve vil hav a reil sensibl riten styl.

Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech oza. Ze drem of a united urop vil finali kum tru.

Und efter ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted in ze forst plas.

[PoshBoss]

May ma-i-re-recommend ba kayong murang HR Outsourcing for Call Center?

[omeng]

Good morning to all.

Nice seeing you again at eb, krakz. Si cowboy ba yun katabi mo? Newei, Cowboy, atin-atin nalang ang pinag-usapan natin. :D - And krakz, Extend my best to your gang!

GOwin, more moolah to your ITC. Di tayo masyadong nakapag compare ng notes. Ang layo kasi ng biz natin sa isat-isa. :D

Max, tsong, musta ang buhay empleyado? Wag ka na raw makikipag-away sabi ni Mitch. :lol:



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Guys, on last tuesday of June there will be an entrep night out. Let's set up this for our upcoming EB.

[decaf]

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Guys, on last tuesday of June there will be an entrep night out. Let's set up this for our upcoming EB.



gusto ko sana pumunta sa last eb kaso may lakad kami ni misis. sana makapunta ako ng next time. baka kapag pumunta ako makakuha pa ng client o magaya yung well guarded secret ni max. :)

[SILENTMAX]

condolences to mr tiger woods on the loss of his father.

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May 3, 2006, 9:06PM
Earl Woods, Father of Tiger Woods, Dies

By DOUG FERGUSON AP Golf Writer
© 2006 The Associated Press

— Earl Woods, who was more determined to raise a good son than a great golfer and became the architect and driving force behind Tiger Woods' phenomenal career, died Wednesday morning at his home in Cypress, Calif. He was 74.

"My dad was my best friend and greatest role model, and I will miss him deeply," Tiger Woods said on his Web site. "I'm overwhelmed when I think of all of the great things he accomplished in his life. He was an amazing dad, coach, mentor, soldier, husband and friend. I wouldn't be where I am today without him, and I'm honored to continue his legacy of sharing and caring."

A habitual smoker who had heart bypass surgery in 1986, Woods was diagnosed with prostate cancer in 1998 and was treated with radiation. But the cancer returned in 2004 and spread throughout his body.

Last month, he was too frail to travel to the Masters for the first time.

The last tournament Woods attended was the Target World Challenge in December 2004, when his son rallied to win and then donated $1.25 million to the Tiger Woods Foundation that his father helped him establish. The Tiger Woods Learning Center, another vision inspired by his father, opened in February.

Woods decided not to play in the Wachovia Championship this week in Charlotte, N.C. Two of his best friends on tour, Mark O'Meara and John Cook, withdrew from the tournament and flew to California to be with him.

Jack Nicklaus, who also was 30 when his father died, said he had long "admired and related to the close bond" shared by Tiger and Earl.

"My father was my best friend, my mentor and perhaps my greatest support system. Earl was all of that to Tiger," he said.

Earl Woods was more than a golf dad, more than a zealous father who lived vicariously through his son's achievements.

He had played catcher for Kansas State, the first black to play baseball in the Big Eight Conference, and he had been a Green Beret for two tours in Vietnam. But he felt his true purpose was to train Tiger, and he watched his son evolve into the dominant player of his time _ the youngest player to win the career Grand Slam _ and one of the most celebrated athletes in the world.

"I knew Tiger was special the day he was born," Woods said in a May 2000 interview with The Associated Press.

Woods introduced Tiger to golf by swinging a club as his son watched in a high chair. Tiger appeared on the "Mike Douglas Show" at age 2, played exhibitions with Sam Snead and Nicklaus, and his television appeal was solely responsible for quantum gains in PGA Tour prize money.

Even so, Woods said he never intended to create a champion golfer.

"I make it very, very clear that my purpose in raising Tiger was not to raise a golfer. I wanted to raise a good person," Woods told Golf Digest magazine about his book, "Training a Tiger: A Father's Guide to Raising a Winner in Both Golf and Life."

Woods gave his son freedom to develop a love for golf on his own, not letting him play unless his homework was done, making him call his father at work to ask if they could practice. Along with the games they played, Woods taught him to be mentally strong by jingling change in his pockets and warning him of water hazards when his son was in the middle of his swing.

It all worked.

Tiger Woods set records that might never be broken by winning three straight U.S. Junior titles, followed by three straight U.S. Amateurs. At age 30, he already has won 48 times on the PGA Tour with 10 major championships, and he set a PGA Tour record by going seven years and 142 consecutive events making the cut.

In the forward to his father's book, Woods said: "In retrospect, golf for me was an apparent attempt to emulate the person I looked up to more than anyone: my father. He was instrumental in helping me develop the drive to achieve, but his role _ as well as my mother's _ was one of support and guidance, not interference."

PGA Tour commissioner Tim Finchem said Woods will be remembered for providing Tiger every opportunity "to become the world's best golfer and an outstanding representative of the game and its values."

Foremost for Woods was raising a son who could influence life beyond golf. Woods was black and his wife, Kultida, whom he met during one of his tours to Vietnam, was Thai and Chinese.

Tiger Woods won twice in his first seven PGA Tour events after turning pro in 1996 at age 20 and was named Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year. Woods predicted greatness for Tiger on and off the course, telling the magazine that his son "will do more than any other man in history to change the course of humanity."

"He's the bridge between the East and the West," the father said. "There is no limit because he has the guidance. I don't know yet exactly what form this will take. But he is the Chosen One. He'll have the power to impact nations. Not people. Nations. The world is just getting a taste of his power."

Perhaps the lasting image of Earl Woods came the next spring, at the 1997 Masters, when he stepped onto the 18th green and wrapped his arms around a 21-year-old son who shattered records at Augusta National, a watershed victory that changed the appeal of golf and sent him to the greatness his father had always predicted.

Earl Woods was born March 5, 1932, in Manhattan, Kan., the youngest of six children. His parents died by the time he was 13.

His father wanted him to play for the Kansas City Monarchs in the Negro Leagues, and his mother stressed education. Woods wound up going to Kansas State, graduating in 1953 with a degree is sociology.

Woods did two tours during the Vietnam War as a member of the U.S. Army Special Forces, rising to the rank of lieutenant colonel. It was his second tour that shaped the latter part of his life:

He met Kultida Punsawad, who was working as a receptionist in Thailand, and married her in 1969. He fought alongside Lt. Col. Nguyen T. Phong of the South Vietnamese army, a friend he nicknamed "Tiger" because of his courage and bravery. Woods promised Tiger Phong that he would name a son after him.

Eldrick "Tiger" Woods was born Dec. 30, 1975.

Earl Woods moved to Cypress, Calif., _ to the house where he died _ and set up a makeshift practice range in the garage with a mat and a net, placing his son in a high chair as he practiced.

The education went beyond swinging a club.

"I tried to break him down mentally, tried to intimidate him verbally, by saying, 'Water on the right, OB on the left,' just before his downswing," Woods once said in an AP interview. "He would look at me with the most evil look, but he wasn't permitted to say anything. That's the frustration. He couldn't say a word, but he always had an escape word. He never used it.

"One day I did all my tricks, and he looked at me and smiled," Woods said. "At the end of the round, I told him, 'Tiger, you've completed the training.' And I made him a promise. 'You'll never run into another person as mentally tough as you.' He hasn't. And he won't."

Woods was proud of saying he never left his son with a babysitter, but his goal was to eventually let Tiger run his own life.

"I had pulled back, one item at a time," Woods once told the AP. "Instead of going to several tournaments, it was a couple of tournaments, then one tournament. All of a sudden, he was running everything. I stood there and watched it happen. Because that was my job _ to prepare him to leave."

Besides his wife and Tiger, Woods is survived by three children from his previous marriage.

A private service will be held Friday.




a nike commercial featuring tiger woods. man this guy is soo good.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Pf-gPpXqXyk&search=nike%20tiger%20woods

[SILENTMAX]

Tiger woods quotes


“no matter how good you get you can always get better and that's the exciting part”

“One of the things that my parents have taught me is never listen to other people's expectations. You should live your own life and live up to your own expectations, and those are the only things I really care about it.”

“I'm trying as hard as I can, and sometimes things don't go your way, and that's the way things go.”

“I get to play golf for a living. What more can you ask for - getting paid for doing what you love.”

“My dad has always taught me these words: care and share. That's why we put on clinics. The only thing I can do is try to give back. If it works, it works.”

“My main focus is on my game.”


______________________________________
(He's most powerful words...)
______________________________________
"I smile at obstacles."

"My will can move mountains."

"I will do it with all my heart."

[SILENTMAX]

I Smile At Obstacles
What is an obstacle? The dictionary defines 'obstacle' as
a thing that blocks or hinders progress.
An obstacle is a challenge. It's a problem.
It's an opportunity to grow and develop.
Tiger doesn't run away from challenges. He welcomes them.
He looks forward to them. He embraces them.
For by having challenges Tiger gets better. His skills improve.
Tiger Woods smiles at obstacles. Smile - and embrace - your
obstacles. Most of your obstacles are in your own mind.

My Will Moves Mountains
Tiger Woods' ability to concentrate is legendary. He knows
what he wants and he doesn't stop until he gets it.
When Tiger says "My Will Moves Mountains" he means
* Focus.
* Dedication.
* Commitment.
* Persistence & Perseverance.

Tiger knows what he wants. He has a target. He sets goals,
creates a plan, and then accomplishes them.
Tiger believes he can do anything if he put his mind to it.
Nothing is insurmountable. No mountain is too high.
No river to wide. No golf course is too tough.

What about you?
What are your goals? Dreams? Desires?
What do you want to do with your life? What do you want to accomplish?

There's an old saying, "When a man knows what he wants,
he will move heaven and earth to get it."
What mountains do you want to move?
Where is your focus? Your commitment?

I Will Do It With All My Heart
When Tiger Woods does something, he's completely and
totally committed. He works. He practices. He studies.
He doesn't want to be good. He doesn't want to be better.
He wants to be the BEST.

He's focused like a laser beam. His concentration is
two inches wide and five miles long.
Then there's you, me, and everybody else. Our concentration is
two inches long and five miles wide. We've short attention
spans, and even smaller concentration levels.

And you wonder why you're not the huge success you could be.
If you want to become good. If you want to become great. If you
want to become a legend, it takes hard work, dedication and focus.
People say you "Pay the price for success." That's flat out wrong!!!
You pay the price for not being a success. You pay a price for not
accomplishing your goals. You pay a price for not living your dreams.
You pay a price for not having the things you want,
both for yourself and your family.

Tiger Woods doesn't make excuses. He expects VICTORY!
Use Tiger as your example. Smile at obstacles. Move mountains.
Make commitments to do the best you can. And you'll achieve more than you ever dreamed.

[Trevi]

Hi to all. Its been awhile since I posted here. Nice backreads......

I wanted to go to the EB...but when I texted MAx / Omeng...umuwi na daw ??!!! Next time.

@ SilentMax - Thanks for the snippets of history you shared. I most certainly appreciated that of Topacio and, and Aguinaldo.....hmmm.. if you believe in stars..wonder if ours have conspired ? or aligned in this cycle... I just heard from the grapevine that the esteemed Chairman of the Yuchengco Foundation / RCBC, our esteemed kababayan, put together an AI / JV for one of our upcoming young 23 + tropang Imus upstart - OUTSOURCE. :-)... Time to wave those Flags on the 12th...makapunta nga. :-)

My Best to all.

[SILENTMAX]

@mam
lets get rolling.


Video for the day.
somebody to be proud of our very own Manny "Pacman" Pacquio.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eBczv5UnzBg&search=noypi
nicely edited. nicely done.
We are pinoy's no one will praise us but ourselves. lets start praising each others good works. for if we praise them enough. we bring out the best in them

[SILENTMAX]

visit the philiphines

explore our country. explore the wealth of wonder it brings.
tangkilikin ang sariling atin!!
explore our own country

its beauty its grandness. visit all the islands of the philippines


http://youtube.com/watch?v=1oIZw8NX0Os

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9BJ_hbj306M&search=%20Tourism%20philippines

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HN6yaYKkLzM&search=%20Tourism%20philippines

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YdBANriBrlw&search=%20Tourism%20philippines

http://youtube.com/watch?v=X04ZCNQ3DOo&search=WowPhilippines
(our strength in the english dialect. as show in this vid)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IfkX2i1B7Ww&search=WowPhilippines
our chocolate hills!

and now my favorite
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QUXkoIJpEP0&search=%20Tourism%20philippines
i love how strong the effect was in the closing sequence

[omeng]

Quote for today:

"Life is too short to be little." - Disraeli

[tennisace]

A quote for all Entreps from the pages of T.Ace's crumpled notes:

"Adversity is the stone on which I grind my sword"

[Krakista]

Perseverance is the hard work you do after you get
tired of doing the hard work you already did.

- Newt Gingrich

[SILENTMAX]

@ omeng check this bible verse out :)

Matthew 5:5
Blessed are the meek:
for they shall inherit the earth.

[wandergirl]

hi peeps...i'm planning to start a food biz this coming school year. It would be a merienda business where I'd be selling hamburgers, fotolong sandwich, ham sandwich, etc....do u guys think it's a good biz? any one have a rough estimate in terms of how much capital needed for this kind of business? my place of choice would be along university belt...any piece of advise? tnx

[baludoy]

can anyone recommend to me a credible and cheap supplier/s of medical equipment/s. particularly those w/c are used by nursing students?pls...

[validus]

hi peeps...i'm planning to start a food biz this coming school year. It would be a merienda business where I'd be selling hamburgers, fotolong sandwich, ham sandwich, etc....do u guys think it's a good biz? any one have a rough estimate in terms of how much capital needed for this kind of business? my place of choice would be along university belt...any piece of advise? tnx

Griller P1,500
Gas tank w/gas 1,100
Thong 20
Turner(sansye) 30
Bread knife 35
Catsup and mayo container@10 each 40

Burger patties ( P20.00@6 pcs)
Buns (P10.00@6pcs)
Catsup (P65.00/gallon)
Mayonnaise (P180.00/gallon)
Hamburger plastic (P15.00/100 pcs.)

Yield:
1 gallon of catsup can make 300 hamburger
1 gallon of mayonnaise can make 600 hamburger
1 pack of hamburger plastic can handle 100 hamburger
50 packs of hamburger patties for 300 hamburgers
50 packs of hamburger buns for 300 hamburgers

1 gallon of catsup P65.00
1/2 gallon of mayonnaise 90.00
3 packs of hamburger plastic 45.00
50 packs of hamburger patties 1,000.00
50 packs of Hamburger buns 500.00
250 ml cooking oil 20.00

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P 1,720.00

Griller P1,500
Gas tank w/gas 1,100
Thong 20
Turner(sansye) 30
Bread knife 35
Catsup and mayo container@10 each 40

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Total start up cost with
initial inventory and equipment P4,445.00

300 hamburger x P10.00 = P3,000

pero puhunan mo is 1,720 lang

kaya;

3000 - 1,720 = P1,280.00

variable kasi yung bayad sa location mo at sa tauhan mo. once you have a definite figure for that, kumpletuhin mo nalang yung kulang. ikaw narin bahala mag mark-up. mag bench-mark ka muna.

goodluck!

[Papichulo168]

^^
Great info sir validus!

I am also considering a Hamburger/Sandwich business near a huge call center in our area. I just have some follow up questions on the above:

Where did you get these suppliers?

Burger patties ( P20.00@6 pcs)
Buns (P10.00@6pcs)
Catsup (P65.00/gallon)
Mayonnaise (P180.00/gallon)
Hamburger plastic (P15.00/100 pcs.)


And to everyone...

Can anyone point me (too long to back read) who is the franchiser for the Purefoods hotdog stalls you can find in most supermarkets and malls? I'm talking about the stall that sells hotdog sandwhiches, burgers and barbeques inside the food stall rows in most large supermarkets.

[SILENTMAX]

@papi nice angle
always follow the money. ofw,call center workers, and expats(oh beleive me theres a lot more comming in) case studies im working at.

thought for the day
"Can you really explain to a fish what it's like to walk on land? One day on land is worth a thousand years of talking about it, and one day running a business has exactly the same kind of value." -warren buffet

[omeng]

Dude max, i'm may not a meek but this freakin' world was designed for freak like me. :D

[SILENTMAX]

anak ka nga ni Donald Trump pare hahahaha

i respect that. in this life we must follow our own paths.. to each his own. *okay*

God Speed

[validus]

papi: PM ko sayo later yung contact numbers ng mga suppliers. san location ba balak mo?

[wandergirl]

tnx a lot for the info...saan ba nakakabili ng griller? sa divisoria ba meron nun?

Griller P1,500
Gas tank w/gas 1,100
Thong 20
Turner(sansye) 30
Bread knife 35
Catsup and mayo container@10 each 40

Burger patties ( P20.00@6 pcs)
Buns (P10.00@6pcs)
Catsup (P65.00/gallon)
Mayonnaise (P180.00/gallon)
Hamburger plastic (P15.00/100 pcs.)

Yield:
1 gallon of catsup can make 300 hamburger
1 gallon of mayonnaise can make 600 hamburger
1 pack of hamburger plastic can handle 100 hamburger
50 packs of hamburger patties for 300 hamburgers
50 packs of hamburger buns for 300 hamburgers

1 gallon of catsup P65.00
1/2 gallon of mayonnaise 90.00
3 packs of hamburger plastic 45.00
50 packs of hamburger patties 1,000.00
50 packs of Hamburger buns 500.00
250 ml cooking oil 20.00

=====================================
P 1,720.00

Griller P1,500
Gas tank w/gas 1,100
Thong 20
Turner(sansye) 30
Bread knife 35
Catsup and mayo container@10 each 40

=======================================
Total start up cost with
initial inventory and equipment P4,445.00

300 hamburger x P10.00 = P3,000

pero puhunan mo is 1,720 lang

kaya;

3000 - 1,720 = P1,280.00

variable kasi yung bayad sa location mo at sa tauhan mo. once you have a definite figure for that, kumpletuhin mo nalang yung kulang. ikaw narin bahala mag mark-up. mag bench-mark ka muna.

goodluck!

[validus]

pwede kang bumili ng griller sa divisoria. tabora st. paikot ng yllaya st.

for patties, catsup and mayo, you can contact Ayin @ 943 7201 or 0927 279 2706.
for hotdogs and footlongs, you can go to any cdo or holiday factory outlet. marami kang mahahanap nun.

good luck!

[Papichulo168]

I got your PM sir validus. Thank you for replying. The call center (I cant say the exact location) is situated in a semi-residential/commercial area. So there are just a few food establishments nearby. I've worked in a call center and I remember, we were always hungry but we were sick and tired of the food sold by the concessionaires inside. We also like to smoke right after eating and that's not possible with the internal concessionaire.

I am considering setting up the burger/hotdog stand similar to the one I just described...

^^
And to everyone...

Can anyone point me (too long to back read) who is the franchiser for the Purefoods hotdog stalls you can find in most supermarkets and malls? I'm talking about the stall that sells hotdog sandwhiches, burgers and barbeques inside the food stall rows in most large supermarkets.

...or just take a franchise from that purefoods hotdog/burger/barbecue stand in Supermarkets. Kasi when I get hungry when I do my grocery in SM Megamall that's the stand in the foodstall row that I always end up eating at.

[laptopboy2005]

i want to establish a business, it's just that i don't have enough resources, money. i don't have assets either. is there anyway i can borrow money from someone or can u advise me what to do. thanks

[validus]

^^ if ever you have that money (the amount that you desire), what business do you want to establish?

you see, a lot of people think that you've got to have that capital to start the business.. how about working on it from a "business idea" to "acquiring the capital"? believe me, it would be easier that way.

here's a hypothetical question.. If I give you half a million now, what would you do with it?

[omeng]

Pwede bang sa akin mo na lang ibigay ang half a million na yan? :D

==========================================================

Thought for today:

"Nurture your mind with great thoughts; to believe in the heroic makes heroes." - Disraeli

[validus]

@ omeng: I've heard that you've been earning more than that amount every month.. wag mo nang patusin 'to bro! hahaha

@silentmax: You're interested with golds, right? how about this:

saudi commemorative gold coin (with certificate)- pure gold!

Quality: Proof
Composition: 91.67% gold
Diameter: 36mm
Coin Weight: 30 grams
Shape Edge: Round/Milled
Year Issued: 1999
# of units Avail: 10 coins

Certificate of Authenticity by Monnaie De Paris and Saudi Arabian Monetary Agency.

I also accept referrals.. I could arrange the commission terms for you.

P.S.- This also goes to anybody who's interested to earn "some". you can contact me through PM.

Thanks!

[Trevi]

@ omeng: I've heard that you've been earning more than that amount every month.. wag mo nang patusin 'to bro! hahaha



I agree. :) Not good to be greedy/ ;)
Leave some for others...Mahirap maging sobrang mayaman Omeng - di mo alam kung sino and tunay na nagmamahal sa iyo (sa dami ba naman nila). :rotflmao:

[omeng]

ey.. ang millions lang sa akin ay ang neuron sa brain ko.. sila billions.

sabi nga nila.. "it's hard to be a good samaritan when you have nothing to give."

wala akong ganyan max.. walang magkamali na pipirma sa pre-nup. wahhhh :lol:

happy weekend to all YE. I'll spend mine to www.campogranderesort.com. weekend hunting muna.

[tennisace]

I agree. :) Not good to be greedy/ ;)
Leave some for others...Mahirap maging sobrang mayaman Omeng - di mo alam kung sino and tunay na nagmamahal sa iyo (sa dami ba naman nila). :rotflmao:
A quote from my all-time favorite money-maker, Gordon Gekko:

"Greed is good. Greed is right. Greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms -- greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge -- has marked the upward surge of mankind."

While Omeng relaxes at the Campo Grande Resort, I'm headed for my own personal spa, otherwise known as the bath tub.

[Uncle Louie]

@mam
lets get rolling.


Video for the day.
somebody to be proud of our very own Manny "Pacman" Pacquio.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eBczv5UnzBg&search=noypi
nicely edited. nicely done.
We are pinoy's no one will praise us but ourselves. lets start praising each others good works. for if we praise them enough. we bring out the best in them

Maybe you and some of the succesful entrepreneurs should try helping some of the young Filipinas stuck in this line of work http://www.2.livejasmin.com/allonline.php?livejasmin_session=01d05a1060c2711726938c6fc97a27a2 .
Maybe you should try to help get some of the young teen prostitutes off the streets of Manila and elswhere in the Philippines. The Philippines was once thought of to be the next Japan, now it is a haven for pedeophiles. How could you be proud of a country the turns a blind eye on this. The rich, corrupt officials and law enforcement do nothing but pad there wallets.

[SILENTMAX]

@ uncle louie
well think of something.



thought for my day. (from a sound bite)

"Let's say you do
please your father...

and you are completely successful
and completely self-reliant...

and you know that
he's proud of you.

Then what?
It's tough to imagine, right?
beacause then you'd actually
have to figure out what you want. "

[SILENTMAX]

The Optimist Creed
The following version, without the title "The Optimist Creed," is quoted from Science of Mind 71 (June 1998): 50.

Promise Yourself

To be so strong that nothing can disturb your peace of mind.

To talk health, happiness, and prosperity to every person you meet.

To make all your friends feel that there is something worthwhile in them.

To look at the sunny side of everything and make your optimism come true.

To think only of the best, to work only for the best and to expect only the best.

To be just as enthusiastic about the success of others as you are about your own.

To forget the mistakes of the past and press on to the greater achievements of the future.

To wear a cheerful expression at all times and give a smile to every living creature you meet.

To give so much time to improving yourself that you have no time to criticize others.

To be too large for worry, too noble for anger, too strong for fear, and too happy to permit the presence of trouble.

To think well of yourself and to proclaim this fact to the world, not in loud word, but in great deeds.

To live in the faith that the whole world is on your side, so long as you are true to the best that is in you.

[SILENTMAX]

Yahoo CEO laments not buying Google
May 11, 2006 4:21 PM PDT

In the annals of missed opportunities by tech CEOs, Yahoo Chief Terry Semel has a doozy.

In a talk with The New Yorker writer Ken Auletta as part of a Newhouse School lecture series, Semel was asked what his dumbest decision was after taking the job at the Net media company in 2001.

(The story may have been told before, but it's still a delight to hear from Semel's lips.)

Shortly after joining Yahoo, Semel said, company founders Jerry Yang and David Filo suggested he look at buying up-and-comer Google, whose Stanford grad founders looked up Yahoo's inventors. So Semel said he had dinner with Larry Page and Sergey Brin, asking them what their business was with Yahoo paying only $7 million annually as its biggest licensor of Google search technology.

"They had no thought process on the subject," Semel said in the conversation, which was posted online Thursday at the New Yorker Web site.

So Semel nevertheless asked to buy Google. They replied that they wanted $1 billion and didn't want to sell. Semel said he'd think about the price.

Another dinner and Semel agreed to the $1 billion. Larry and Sergey replied that they wanted $3 billion and didn't want to sell.

"I couldn't and didn't buy this company and the rest is history," Semel said, adding that it was also fortuitous because that harkened the birth of the search-advertising business.

Not too long after that, Overture Services, then GoTo, approached Semel's company with a plan to add $75 million to Yahoo's bottom line with revenue from paid-search advertisements, when it had been losing money after the dot-com bust.

"Turns out we earned over $200 million that year (from Overture) and that was the start of search," Semel said.
Posted by Stefanie Olsen

http://news.com.com/2061-10811_3-6071461.html?part=rss&tag=6071461&subj=news

[Uncle Louie]

@ uncle louie
well think of something.



thought for my day. (from a sound bite)

"Let's say you do
please your father...

and you are completely successful
and completely self-reliant...

and you know that
he's proud of you.

Then what?
It's tough to imagine, right?
beacause then you'd actually
have to figure out what you want. "

Silentmax...I don't get your point, sorry.

Here is a letter to me just this week by someone that works for the US Navy, an American....

Quote:

I have had my friend check in to the entire Cyber Sex industry in
Phillipines and provide me with deals on the house used on Jasmin
there are 4 main owns of these house which number about 85 the girls
in
Jasmin in are also on ABC.com and at least one other. You will noticee
at
time the say a number of performers have changed catagories, which men
they
have be switched from one service to another. One of the group of house
offer not only on line but full prostitution. They send people out
to the
providences to get girl from the poorest of family. Pay there way the
city
where the house is. Most girls never leave the house as long as they
work
for it. they must pay for their computer,cell and food. What they get
after
is so small. many house mothers are lesbian and eventually will have
their
way with the girl convincing them they love them. These girls end up
as
slaves trapped because their expense eat up their income.

Also many of the girls are given the store they are to tell men to get
them
involved there for spending more money.


We must do what we can to stop this. I have written the UN human
rights
commission to see what influence they might have.

this has to stop. `Name withheld "end quote"


I've checked and personally asked a couple girls involved in this and most of what he said is true. His friend has already helped one girl get back with her family. I was never a Filipino citizen, born on US soil to non Filipino citizens. I am part Filipino and lived there for a number of years. I haven't lived there in 30 yrs but my heart is still with the Phils and with the Filipino people and its beautiful culture. But it's hard to mave back with all the negative that is happening there. I've spent $450 of my own money in the last 30 days to try to help out. I can't do this much longer or by myself. I have bills to pay here also. I was surprised to find an American involved in helping the children of the Phils out. I don't know how many more of them are trying to help and for how long now. I haven't heard any help coming from the Phils, just a move to shut these places down. Without any alternative jobs , this will run them into prostitution. Sure, what the Phils needs is more young prostitutes to help the economy and tourism right. Maybe you businessmen should go into a partnership and start your own cybersex business. I heard the money is really good.

[Uncle Louie]

In case you took that literally, my last three sentences were meant as sarcasm. Oh, and I know this guys name and gov't e-mail. I withheld his name here.

[omeng]

Welcome back Uncle Louie.

T'ace, funny... i was about to say those things. Deym! :lol:



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[omeng]

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[SILENTMAX]

@uncle louie
im getting you. but if i may ask. is this the right forum to voice out your opinion? this is the young entrepreneurs thread. this thread was created to help out young entrepreneurs. it seams like your trying to get a rise out of me and i may say it is working. i am mad at the scenario but i have no political inclination ive been asked whether i am for or against goverment. i just say to hell with them and let me do my own work. I beleive that if i keep pushing for outsourcing then there will be jobs that will be created out of thin air. imagine just your knowledge and "laway" and you could have any job you wish for in the outsourcing industry. "laway" lang ang puhunan. some see this is a dead end job. i see this as a way out for so many of my people who are poor hungry and sick of seing all the things wrong in my country. i have been using what little of my influence to see this future come true. ive pushed for computer centers to create demand. ive pushed for pldt to improve its lines and lower broadband internet cost. now im pushing what little influence i have to see startup sme's to start seeing the light of outsourcing. this will provide a lot of jobs. i dont beleive in large corporations helping out my country i beleive in sme's. this in my opinion will solve your problem and mine. by giving options. i can only open the door for my people. they themselve out of their own free will, will have to go in.

[Uncle Louie]

Omeng..thanks for the welcome back. I never deleted the subscription to this thread, just never unsubscribed. I just kept deleting my mail after reading part of the posts in my e-mail. The last one I read before I posted was this...

"We are pinoy's no one will praise us but ourselves. lets start praising each others good works. for if we praise them enough. we bring out the best in them".

Sorry, Silentmax. I know this is the wrong forum, but if anyone would have the knowledge and possible solution to this problem, that I came across a month ago, I thought that this forum would have the best people. The members of this forums business knowledge and knowledge about the current situation in the Phils is far better than mine. I was hoping that if I could just reach the heart of one person here it might make a difference for someone. I consider myself Filipino, even though I never was a Filipino citizen and only one of my parents are Filipino. It hurts me to see our young girls forced into this line of work.

[Uncle Louie]

Please don't get me wrong, I am actually pro legalization of prostitution. It is in fact legal in some parts of Nevada and perhaps some other states. But, nobody should be forced into prostitution or stripping, specially minors. It is a shame that young Filipino girls have to choose between this line of work and starvation.

[baludoy]

this is a follow up to my earlier question, anyone here can refer me to a supplier of medical paraphernalia like gauzes, needles, and such

[omeng]

guys, just promoting this resort again... :D

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a99/omengski/campogrande032.jpg

[Uncle Louie]

Omeng, this is not meant for anything against you. The irony for me in all of this is, while you and others are enjoying the peace and relaxation of this resort in Bulacan, a young girl is now in one of Jasmins apartments in Manila because her father was one of the victims of the recent slayings in Bulacan this year. This was the last girl I spoke to just in the last 2 weeks. I didn't want to mention it after your promotion of this resort, but I did anyway. Sorry , if you have stake in this business.

I was going to check out a nice house on a large piece of property for sale, for my brother in law this year and also another lot for myself to build a house on, both in Bulacan. She's asked me to not buy in Bulacan. She said, "Uso na ang patayan doon". I've looked into this, and she wasn't kidding. There has been an extraordinary amount of political and other unsolved slayings and disappearances in Bulacan.

[Uncle Louie]

Omeng, this is not meant for anything against you. The irony for me in all of this is, while you and others are enjoying the peace and relaxation of this resort in Bulacan, a young girl is now in one of Jasmins apartments in Manila because her father was one of the victims of the recent slayings in Bulacan this year. This was the last girl I spoke to just in the last 2 weeks. I didn't want to mention it after your promotion of this resort, but I did anyway. Sorry , if you have stake in this business.

I was going to check out a nice house on a large piece of property for sale, for my brother in law this year and also another lot for myself to build a house on, both in Bulacan. She's asked me to not buy in Bulacan. She said, "Uso na ang patayan doon". I've looked into this, and she wasn't kidding. There has been an extraordinary amount of political and other unsolved slayings and disappearances in Bulacan.

[tennisace]

Uncle Louie,

I feel your pain. It’s a deplorable situation. The entrepreneurs in this forum can, as S.Max has indicated, help by opening the doors of opportunity to these poor souls. However, the government has a greater duty and obligation by virtue of their mandate to enact stricter laws to protect these innocent victims and enforce them to the fullest extent regardless of who the brains are and how much they’re willing to pay. Sadly, this reprehensible activity remains to be an option to those who are seeking to make a quick buck forcibly at the expense of the innocent. There is no question that at the root of this lies the scourge of poverty. We, as entrepreneurs can and will do whatever we can to help provide opportunities, contribute to the economy and alleviate poverty. We can just hope that the government will do what’s right by these poor folks and big business will get a conscience and help without any political strings attached.

[Uncle Louie]

Ace...I agree with everything you have said and I thank you for your concern. You are specially correct about the government hardly doing anything. When I was last there, we went to a bar near Shangri-la Makati. I was surprised that the drinks were as expensive as in bars here in SF, CA, and yet it had a lot of local patrons. What struck me though was when we walked out of the bar at 5AM that morning, there were these little kids selling roses. A guy tried to shoo them away and I told him to stop. My brother and I bought every single rose these 4 kids were selling went back into the bar and gave them to the women working there and the women patrons. When they thanked us, I told them to thank those little kids working outside because it is a gift from them and not us. We then turned around and walked out. I was hoping this will send a message across, but I doubt it did.

I lived both in Baguio and near Dagupan Pangasinan from the mid 60s to late 70's. I was back there almost 5 years ago after being away for 20+ years. Although there was a lot more traffic and overcrowding, I noticed a lot of positive economic and modern changes. But, the thing that stayed with me the most is, the hospitality and cultural beauty of the Filipino people hasn't changed a bit. Of course I saw a lot of westernization, but I look deeper than that, and Filipinos are still the same inside as they were when I lived there. Even though, they worked harder and longer hours with less pay than Americans, they were a lot happier, showed less stress and never complained.

Americans tend to complain too much on the little things, ie, it's too warm, too cold, I got too much work today, it's so slow at work today, I don't like the color of my carpet, color of my house trim, color of my car, etc, etc. Guys even complain here when asked to work overtime and the work is slow. Yes, $70 per hour sitting on their asses sipping coffee and watching a DVD movie and some still complain. I myself started to complain about little things also.
Then I found the above mentioned site and learned that a lot of these girls work 10 or more hours just sitting and smiling in front of their webcam pretending to enjoy being verbally abused by others. A lot of them work from after dinner through the morning, some work from sunrise to midnihgt, hoping for someone to take them into a private session so they could earn a buck that day. They have a quota of $1000 per 15 days gross in-private $$ or could get kicked out of the job and their apartment, that's why they'd rather work long hours 7days a week, even through illness, than take a break. One girl just go back from the hospital for possible kidney infection. This is due to them not taking bathroom breaks when they need to in fear they may loose a possible private session. A lot of them are very underweight and one admitted to be anemic. The lowest weight they could state in their profile is "under 100 lbs". Well, 68 to 80 lbs is under 100#. Some of these girls are obviously under 18 and had to mistate their ages to get to work there.

After learning this, man, I am embarrased for myself and people I know for complaining about our easy work here when there are so many, even in the US that would love to have our jobs. Yes, folks there is poverty here also. People too live on the streets and under bridges in the US, but there is also governmant welfare, private non-profit organizations and church groups willing to feed most of the hungry here.

[SILENTMAX]

sir you only show us the problems. why not share with us your possible solutions. i am with you on this, no doubt. but what do you think in your opinion you can do (without goverment intervention) to help out? do you know of any ngo's? that are us based and might be of help. what are your solutions what are the options what are the steps what are the scenarios. what do you see, what could happen?

sir if you visit the philiphines soon lets chat. hell ill even pick you up from the airport lets drink coffee and bounce of ideas. bouncing of ideas is fine. but after that i hope we could do something with action.

[omeng]

Buenas diaz, amigos and amigas!

Uncle Louie, no big deal.

San Rafael is known as an NPA infested town, but still, after more than 20th visit, there is only one group I saw. Most of the time, there are vans, cars, jeep, etc in that place. I believe they established their own republic, and guess what? It's "Bulalo Republic". Ask T'ace if he enjoyed the food the last time he visited bulacan.

Kiddin' aside, I don't know, man. There are a lot of NGO's out there extending their arms. Vice president of the Philippines is the head of DSWD. ABS CBN has this Bantay Bata. Gawad Kalinga is in full blast in their cause. Etc. etc.

I agree with tennisace. It's a Herculean job and I cannot even lift this 160lbs barbell without spotter. Let them do their job, and let me do my job for I do what I do best.

I needed to relax, and that's the nearest and cheapest place I could think of. And beside, business with leisure will always be my agenda. It's a must to an entrepreneur to have some relaxation after so too many pressures and toxic that goes into our brain, otherwise, you will be end up in a hospital bed.

You have no idea what happened to my business in last 30 days. "Puro bagyo". But I'm still kicking and I have to be tough, otherwise, lot of opportunities will be lost and lot of employees will be jobless. I cannot go on for further details. I'm not use to lift my own chair, pardon me.

Anyway, living in the Philippines is not so bad. TV News always rationalized things. Bad news for them is good news. Just like when this "Gloria resign movement" went to makati and ate glue declare State of Emergency, and most pinoy outside pinas are very worried, but in fact, in my place, everything are normal, in short "business as usual".

[SILENTMAX]

hmmm was up. early in the wee hours of the morning....and found myself in this situation.

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do i get a loyalty award for this? boss kd. come on :) at least that avatar option to show that neat puss in boots pics i have for an avatar. im just in it for the attention from the other side of our species...:D

[Uncle Louie]

sir you only show us the problems. why not share with us your possible solutions. i am with you on this, no doubt. but what do you think in your opinion you can do (without goverment intervention) to help out? do you know of any ngo's? that are us based and might be of help. what are your solutions what are the options what are the steps what are the scenarios. what do you see, what could happen?

sir if you visit the philiphines soon lets chat. hell ill even pick you up from the airport lets drink coffee and bounce of ideas. bouncing of ideas is fine. but after that i hope we could do something with action.

Max...I really don't have any solutions. Im sorry I had to dump this problem here, but I thought the collective brilliance of the businessmen and businesswomen in this forum may be able to come up with something.

Like I said before, I left the Phils in 1978, went back in early 80's then again 4 years ago. I stayed mostly in the province and everyone seemed to be happy, including my cousins in Manila and friends in Baguio. My cousins have told me business was never the same since 9/11, but I always thought things were still ok. My wife and I still help out what we can for our relatives in the Phils. The last year alone we've sent over $3000 mostly for medical bills and some gifts. This is not easy on our pocket book. Both my wife and I have to work to pay our kids $30k/year college costs, mortgage, etc. After work we stil have to do the house chores. We don't have, cooks, maids, laundrywomen and drivers on our payroll. We have to do it all. I do most of the house and car maintenance myself also. I have spent $450 or so now without my families knowledge. I cannot keep depleting my bank account as my wife will soon find out. Trust me she won't understand. Would yours? Imagine, "Hey Hun I want to retire in the Phils, in the mean time I want to support a few young female strippers over there". "Sure Louie, just show me how to use your shotgun once again" LOL. I laugh but this has been killing me for a month now and I dont think I could or should take this stress much longer. Why should I have to worry about this? Why are other local Americans here worrying about this? I'm not saying Filipinos are doing anything. There is a heated discussion on the RP gov't website forum about this http://www.gov.ph/forum/thread.asp?rootID=35615&catID=13 . Although I haven't posted or read the entire thread, I only saw one guy make a difference for someone and he happens to be Italian. He took one of these girls out of this industry and married her and they are living happily in Italy.

[Uncle Louie]

I have heard Filipinos here say that if they stop sending money home to their relatives their nieces might become prostitutes. I've heard from other Filipinos that have been there within the last year or so say that prostitutes as young as 12 and 13 are working the streets in Manila and the police drive by and do nothing. I thought all this was exaggeration as Filipinos like to do, but then I came across this site (Jas) and after speaking to a few workers there, I realized there is a problem brewing or maybe it has been brewing for sometime now.

Businesses require customers and consumers to thrive and as the country is driven more into poverty, these consumers will sowly be depleted. Of course you could say that there will always be foreign based customers, but as poverty rises so does crime. And with the rise of crime, tourism will decline in the Phils. Because of the internet news travels fast around the world if you care to search and read. And tourists as well as businessmen wanting to travel and do business in another country usually do their research. It's known that a number of mayors have been killed lately in Ilocos, a number of baranggay captains have been slain recently in Bulacan, not to mention the other slaying s and disppearances there and around the Phils. The NPA and other insurgencies are onthe rise again just like during Marcos' martial law. When people are impoverished and see no relief in sight and someone offers them some hope they will jump onthe band wagon. Read for yourself... http://www.philippinerevolution.org/
I beleive that these militant groups are part of the problem and not the solution, but people joining them don't know any better because they haven't seen anything better yet. Then, you have the news about the muslim extremist groups in the south. And by the way I think we are kidding ourselves if we beleive they are only in the south. With all the muslims spread througout Luzon today, how would you know that there isn't one massive plot in the works. Sorry I kinda got off topic here, but I'll let it stand. Then, the news about prostitution, child prostitution and the Phil cybersex industry. So how can we attract tourism and foreign business when this is what the world is reading about the Phils. Remeber bad news sticks better than good news. One industry that may benifit is the Philippine SEX industry, but,is this the Phils you want your children to grow up in? Is this what you want the Philippines to be known by?

[SILENTMAX]

sir if you visit the philiphines soon lets chat. hell ill even pick you up from the airport lets drink coffee and bounce of ideas. bouncing of ideas is fine. but after that i hope we could do something with action.
@uncle louie
i know you would ask why i would go to such extents and i know even mam tina asks this of me on my sponsoring the eb's but simply put this old chinese proverb should explain

"A single conversation with a wise man is worth a month's study of books."

i read about 3 books a month. and if i save money just by talking to a wise man. then dammit i would go that route ;)




and the reason why i beleive in jobs..

"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. "

[Uncle Louie]

Max... Thanks! I'll take you up on the coffee if I happen to be there.

Omeng...I understand it's business as usual to people there. That's how It felt when I was there. But more Filipinos I know that planned to retire there came back than stayed in RP. The family and friends of the balikbayans massacred there will never visit again. I can't convince my wife to retire there. Niether could the guy from Cavite convince his wife after her family was massacred. For people abroad, tourists and business people, it is not business as usual when all they read is this. I've tried to explain to people here that if you lived outside of the US and all you read was about, Jeffrey Dahmer, the school massacers, the rape and child molestations that we have here, earthquakes, 9/11, new Orleans Flooding, you won't want to move to US either. But there is a lot more good that people could personally relate about the US after they visit or live here that overshadows any bad news. This hasn't been the case with news and verbal info from people that have come back from RP. The main complaint is emergency personel response time. I tell them I don't live my daily life thinking that I may need emergency care sometime in my lifetime. I say when it happens it happens. Most of my friends and relatives that needed emergency hospitalization died anyway even after a 10 minute response time.
Nevertheless, this problem is not going to get better. You know its just going to multiply exponentially. These are future mothers in our country. What do you think their children would most likely become if this is ignored.

[omeng]

My last reply on that topic..

http://www.mama-children.org/ - my good business friend never forget to make some donation here.

[jazzy]

You might be interested to see the cars driven by Billionaires.

http://www.forbesautos.com/advice/toptens/billionaire2006/01-billionaires.html?partner=bill_cars_promo

[Papichulo168]

^
That was interesting. And to think that no-name rappers and ball players have better looking cars than these billionaires.

[cashwriters]

hey first of all, i would like to announce that me and my biz will be featured n a magazine soon.

anyway, for those young entrep out there: anong mga problems/conflicts na iencounter nyo sa nyong business?

ako, unfortunately, my own dad discourages me and tells my clients not to buy from me. he tells them that my business is in a bad shape, they they shouldn't make deals with me. sakit 'no?talaga:mad: :( his reason: coz he doesn't want me to have extra curricular activities/ business/ sidelines; just to focus in my studies daw....poor me...

eh kayo?

re problems/conflicts--there will always be little issues that pop up from time to time. If its not an operational issue, it will be equipment/network related issues, it's all par for the course. Just have a system in place where you fix problems quickly. Remember: it's your ability to foresee, deal with and overcome problems that will give you a leg up on the competition. They face problems too, so it all boils down on how you deal with issues that pop up.

Regardless of what you do, don't quit.

[omeng]

WORDS TO LEARN BY
By Dr. John C. Maxwell

In my years studying leadership and evaluating leaders, I have stumbled across a leadership shortcoming that continually amazes me. Leaders will manage a team, work with the same individuals every day, yet hardly know anything about their people! These leaders have never prioritized acquainting themselves with the dreams, thoughts, hopes, opinions, and values of those they lead.

The best leaders are readers of people. They have the intuitive ability to understand others by discerning how they feel and recognizing what they sense.

I have found that leaders overestimate the amount of time and effort needed to get to know someone. In fact, in only one hour with you in private conversation, I could, probably by asking three questions, find the passion of your life:

What do you dream about?

A person's dreams are powerful revealers of passion. When a person starts to talk about their dreams it's as if something bubbles up from within. Their eyes brighten, their face glows, and you can feel the excitement in their words.

What do you cry about?

Passion can be uncovered by peering into the hurts deep inside a human soul. The experience of pain or loss can be a formidably motivating force. When listening to a story of grief, you hear a voice thick with emotion, you see watery eyes flooded with feeling, and in that moment you glimpse the intense connections between a person's deepest pain and their greatest passion.

What makes you happy?

I have fun hearing what makes people tick and seeing the smile that comes when they talk about where they find joy. Enjoyment is an incredible energizer to the human spirit. When a person operates in an area of pleasure, they are apt to be brimming with life and exuding passion.

If you can uncover a person's dreams, hurts, and joys, you've discovered the central dimensions of their life. This lesson is designed to show you the types of questions that can draw out the passion inside of a person. I've included my own answers to give you an understanding of how the process works. Try to limit your answers to one or two words. Also, notice how each question is asked both positively (what makes you happy) and negatively (what makes you cry). I have found that by expressing opposite feelings and emotions, you reveal your true inner self.

To maximize this lesson, I'll give you four easy assignments.


Ask yourself and answer the questions posed in the lesson. In doing so, you'll enhance your self-awareness.

Share your answers with your team to allow them to learn about you.

Ask your team to answer the questions to encourage their self-discovery.

Ask your team to share their answers with one another. This practice will bring team members closer together.
What is your biggest asset?
My greatest asset is my attitude. I discovered this when I was in high school, and the coach of my basketball team appointed me as team captain at the beginning of the year.

I was surprised, because I wasn't the best player on the team. John Thomas was the best player. I was the second or third best player, but I wasn't the best. I was sitting on the floor of the gymnasium with my teammates, and I think the same question was in all of our minds—why is John Maxwell going to be the captain of the team? Anticipating our questions, our coach gave an explanation, "Of all the players on this team, the kid with the best attitude is John Maxwell. He doesn't get discouraged, he believes that we'll win the game, and he's going to be the captain of the team."

What is your biggest liability?
My biggest liability is unrealistic expectations. As with many weaknesses, my unrealistic expectations are the Achilles Heel of my strength.

Many years ago I quit hiring, and I have stayed away from it ever since because I'm a terrible hirer. Why? Because I naturally look for the best in people. When I see a potential employee, I see the raw talent, and I begin thinking how I can help shape the person into a star. I've had numerous failures hiring lousy leaders because I convinced myself I could mold a flawed leader into a top performer.

What do you like most from others?
For me, it's encouragement. Encouragement is the oxygen of the soul, in that it allows you to breathe. Encouragement supports and sustains leadership, especially during the hard times.

What do I like least from others?
I cannot stand people who make excuses—blamers, complainers, and explainers who refuse to accept responsibility for their mistakes.

I admire a person who will admit their faults since it shows me the inner character of that individual. I can accept another's imperfection if they take ownership of their errors because we're all human, and we all fail from time to time.

What is the best thing to have?
I think the best thing to have is friends. For me nothing compares to the joy and fulfillment of going through life with friends you can laugh with, cry with, and celebrate alongside.

What is the worst thing not to have?
I can't imagine a life without hope. Even if my health is failing or my financial situation is grim, if I have hope, I can see a way out of my difficulties.

Hope is the foundation of all change. When people come to me as leaders and they say, "I want to create change within my organization. What should I do?" My response is the obvious answer, "You have to create hope." Nobody changes unless they think life is going to improve. Hope is the motivation that allows people to change.

[SILENTMAX]

as not to be accused of being overly optimistic. ill share a diff kind of quote

____________________________________________________________

Negative thought for the day
"the most dangerous men in this world are those that do not want wealth or power but to share their pain with the world."

[Papichulo168]

as not to be accused of being overly optimistic. ill share a diff kind of quote

____________________________________________________________

Negative thought for the day
"the most dangerous men in this world are those that do not want wealth or power but to share their pain with the world."

And that is the reason why I do not see any of you guys in the LAFI thread. My hat's off to you guys here at TWF!

[Uncle Louie]

My last reply on that topic..

http://www.mama-children.org/ - my good business friend never forget to make some donation here.

Omeng, thanks for the link. I posted this link in another forum also. Has your friend or yourself checked into how legitimate this organization is? Have you seen any of these places mentioned on the webiste? I'll try to ask our local Catholic church and Filipino Organizations here for ideas and maybe sponsorship for Ma'ma children or see if we could form something similar here.

Max.....I reread you post again and I don't know why I missed it the first time. I hope you didn't mean you wanted to have coffee with me because you think I'm a "wise man". I think you'll find it a waste of coffee if you think you'll save money on books by chatting with me. Most of the wise men I know have been mentioned on this forum before or are members of this forum (not me). If I had you guys as mentors growing up, I would be a multi-millionaire by now and then, I could've made a difference in helping these poor people. My dad retired in the Phils from the US Navy when I was in grade two. Before that we travelled a lot and I've really never seen him work much. I have however, seen him help a lot of people and was well respected for that.

[decaf]

I have heard Filipinos here say that if they stop sending money home to their relatives their nieces might become prostitutes. I've heard from other Filipinos that have been there within the last year or so say that prostitutes as young as 12 and 13 are working the streets in Manila and the police drive by and do nothing. I thought all this was exaggeration as Filipinos like to do, but then I came across this site (Jas) and after speaking to a few workers there, I realized there is a problem brewing or maybe it has been brewing for sometime now.

Businesses require customers and consumers to thrive and as the country is driven more into poverty, these consumers will sowly be depleted. Of course you could say that there will always be foreign based customers, but as poverty rises so does crime. And with the rise of crime, tourism will decline in the Phils. Because of the internet news travels fast around the world if you care to search and read. And tourists as well as businessmen wanting to travel and do business in another country usually do their research. It's known that a number of mayors have been killed lately in Ilocos, a number of baranggay captains have been slain recently in Bulacan, not to mention the other slaying s and disppearances there and around the Phils. The NPA and other insurgencies are onthe rise again just like during Marcos' martial law. When people are impoverished and see no relief in sight and someone offers them some hope they will jump onthe band wagon. Read for yourself... http://www.philippinerevolution.org/
I beleive that these militant groups are part of the problem and not the solution, but people joining them don't know any better because they haven't seen anything better yet. Then, you have the news about the muslim extremist groups in the south. And by the way I think we are kidding ourselves if we beleive they are only in the south. With all the muslims spread througout Luzon today, how would you know that there isn't one massive plot in the works. Sorry I kinda got off topic here, but I'll let it stand. Then, the news about prostitution, child prostitution and the Phil cybersex industry. So how can we attract tourism and foreign business when this is what the world is reading about the Phils. Remeber bad news sticks better than good news. One industry that may benifit is the Philippine SEX industry, but,is this the Phils you want your children to grow up in? Is this what you want the Philippines to be known by?

my take on this issue...

i think poverty in the philippines is a hydra-headed social problem that should be attacked at all fronts. some people, like the young entrepreneurs here, can address the cause of the problem by providing employment. while others, like uncle louie, can focus on alleviating the miseries of poverty's victims. we can't say that one method is better than the other. both are worthwhile endeavors that should be respected and emulated.

[SILENTMAX]

Rap quote of the day



“We as rappers must decide what’s most important, And I can’t help the poor if I’m one of them, So I got rich and gave back, to me that’s the win-win"
from the lyrics of "moments of clarity" -JayZ

[SILENTMAX]

Perspectives

my heart bled today...

on my way to work.
I saw an old lady with her husband. Her husband was gasping for air and from the looks of it was about to faint.. at first i thought to stop then i knew i was going to be late for work. i hesistated for a second but i did stop. i approached them and ask how i could help. i asked if i could bring them to the hospital as i knew one was nearby. they said they wouldnt get admitted to the ER. they were told to go to san lazaro.it pained me to hear her say that. You see i know a little bit about hospitals. and i knew how they worked and i knew their side of the story. but i didnt know where san lazaro was. In my state of confusion and fear of being late for work. i violated my rule. i gave them money. i dont beleive in handouts their a patch they are temporary and handouts will never be the real solution.. i badly wanted to take them to the hospital. I asked them for forgiveness and said sorry i couldnt help them more. and with tears in my eyes i left.

My heart bleeds three stars and a Sun
does yours?

[Uncle Louie]

That was very noble of you Max. At least you stopped. I bet most people just kept going pretending not to see what was happening. Your a good man in my book.

[cashwriters]

To Uncle Louie:

Re the sexcam/webcam exploitation biz in the Philippines: Good points. There is SOME progress being made to address this problem. The government IS doing something to eradicate the problem. The raids on cybersex dens have been ramping up lately. http://in.tech.yahoo.com/050526/137/5yp1t.html (raid ending in killing of 2 dutch operators) http://www.newsflash.org/2004/02/ht/ht005449.htm (11th raid in 2 years)

The pace is escalating and the perpetrators are on notice. Unfortunately, there's no SPECIFIC law that bans cybersex dens/sex cam operations directly. The police have to resort to the Prostitution/human trafficking statute. There IS a proposed senate bill ( http://news.inq7.net/infotech/index....story_id=25717 )but it is bogged down in the Senate.

There is probably some level of participation from telecom companies in helping monitor Internet traffic to crack down on these types of operations.

So... the government is not exactly standing back and letting the problem fester. Unfortunately, given the dire economic straits of certain sections of our society, the lure of (reported by the media) up to P30K per night for some performers or worse, organized crime that force women to do this, means that there will be more and more people lured to this extremely exploitative form of online entertainment. The best approach would be to seek US or EU help in cracking down on the websites that process payments for these since they would be aiding and abetting the local scumbags that exploit women and children to provide this 'entertainment' They can also seek US/EU assistance to crack down on affiliate programs and intermediaries that seek to promote sex cams.

You said you live in the US, try writing your congressman and/or senator. The US has anti-sex tourism laws that have nabbed several foreign scumbags who visit the philippines to prey on children. I'm sure something similar can be established--US companies that create a system where kids or women can be exploited are crushed by the heavy hammer of US justice.

Here in the Philippines, those concerned about this issue should express their support to SENATOR REVILLA to keep pushing for the passage of his bill. Email Senator Revilla here: senbongrevilla@senate.gov.ph also email the rest of the senate by clicking their profiles here: http://www.senate.gov.ph/senators/sen13th.htm

[cashwriters]

Back to the topic at hand. Silentmax is right... outsourcing is huge. It takes effort, some capital, and contacts to make it happen. The outsourcing pie is huge. Although call centers get the most attention there are huge opportunities in the following fields:

collections
medical billing
email-based support services
insurance billing problem consultancy
online marketing
document encoding
document quality control
remote server maintenance
niche media services (comic books, etc)
animation-related services
multimedia presentations for SMEs
etc etc

Basically, anything that requires human analysis and input that can be transmitted over the Internet. This is a perfect opportunity for overseas Filipinos who may have contact with decision makers in their companies for such offshore outsourced work.

The choice is obvious: why pay someone $40K a year in the US when you can pay someone here in the Philippines $20 a day ($5000 a year) for the same job? Why hassle with expensive costs in the US when you can outsource all of it for one easy and convenient monthly package.

I can't share my contact list, resource list, or marketing materials but here's some steps anyone can follow to generate their own list:

1) If you're abroad, make a list of people you know that work for medium-sized companies. If you're in the Philippines, search the web for mid-sized corporate contacts. Look for online directories that are open.

2) Write down your proposal for outsourcing. Price out your cost advantage. Add some 'labor padding' to make up for any productivity shortfalls/contingencies. Write out the most common tasks associated with these activities. Price out the competition in the US/CAN/EU. Build a PDF brochure (write it in Word then export as PDF). Try to include some nice pictures to make it very professional.

The ABOUT US section is EXTREMELY important. If you don't have a solid background in the field you wish to service, recruit other Pinoys who DO. Set up an informal alliance with them or consultation relationship and ask for their permission to include them (and their heavy hitting background/experience) in your brochure.

Remember to SELL SELL SELL in the brochure. There's no space for "hiya" or a false sense of humility. The key is to be confident without being cocky, to be direct and not beat around the bush. You have to frame the conversation in terms of questions where the only answer is "YES, I'll buy from you!"

3) Using a VOIP phone (Skype out is good, Vonage is good too), call the people you know who are vaguely connected and research their connections. Call the companies and ask for the contact info of the decision makers. Call these decisionmakers, get their email, send them your brochure.

4) Follow up on the calls after they've gotten your brochure. Discuss the service offerings in greater detail. Setup a follow up schedule or schedule a meeting. Cluster your meetings far in advance to allow for the visa application process.

5) Travel to the US/EU. If you're a US citizen, this should not be a problem. If you have a Philippine passport, apply for a visa, explain the nature of your trip. Print out emails and other corroboration to prove that this is the nature of your trip.

6) Meet your contacts. Follow up with phonecalls. If the contract is small or lower scale middle size, from my experience, the client will not request a site tour. This helped me a lot on many ocassions since a few of the outsource businesses I was pushing in the US were in "embryonic" stages that required THAT PARTICULAR contract in order to grow. Once your operation grows, you can arrnage for on site visits for the client so you can land BIGGER contracts.

7) Other steps: contract drafting, setting up bank wire payments, setting up operations chain of command, setting up operations procedures, etc.

8) These are broad steps that worked for me, you don't have to follow it step by step. I encourage you to make your own custom-tailored path that suits your contact list and resources.

REMEMBER, If a growing number of Filipino-Americans (such as my case) have moved back to the Philippines to set up and grow outsourcing businesses, there's no reason why YOU can't do it as well. Your main focus should be on MAKING A PROFIT. However, keep in the back of your mind that the MORE JOBS YOU CREATE, the better our country will be. Help others help themselves.

I hope this helps. I outlined the steps above in broad strokes to allow people maximum space for their own creativity and problem solving. Don't take this as THE AUTHORITATIVE step by step guide. There's many out there. This is just a distillation of what worked for me.

I wish all the fellow entrepreneurs that read this the best!

[Uncle Louie]

Cashwriters...I don't beleive raids on cybersex joints is part of the solution. Lot of these girls are forced into this line of work, not by someone else, but by choice. "Forced by choice"...is that an oximoron? The other choices are starvation or prostitution. Given these three choices, cyberstripping seems like a pretty attractive choice isn't it? Most of these girls support their families including parents that can't work and younger siblings. Abruptly closing these joints give them only 2 other choices. Which one would you choose? The problem in the Phils is, there are not enough jobs for high school graduates that pay living wages. Why is current enrolment in college or a college degree a requirement for fast food jobs in the Phils? These jobs in the US are mostly filled by currently enrolled high school students or new high school graduates. Who needs a college degree for cashiering or flipping and bagging hamburgers? These are easily learned by on the job training. These high school grads here sometimes end up becoming assistant mgrs and mgrs of these joints giving them enough experience to move to a better company or move up higher in the company without ever going to college.

There are not enough jobs in the Phils., even for college graduates, period. That's why a lot of positons which could easily be filled by high school graduates are being filled by college students and grads.

Yes, I've read about the nabbing of the American engaged in child sex as he landed here, but why wasn't he nabbed by the local authorities there? Why isn't anything being done on the streets? Not just child prostitution, but also child labor in general. These working children should be followed home to see if they have a parent capable of working, and if they find parents like these, there children should be taken away, put in an orphanage, and their parents jailed. If I was there and happen to follow a working kid home to a father who is spending the childs earning by gambling and drinking, I would be compelled to beat him at the least. If cops are on the take to overlook child prostitution then evidence should be gathered and these cops should be reported and jailed.

There are enough rich people in the Phils to make a difference, if they only care. A lot of them own vacation homes here and in other parts of the world. They know that if things get too rough for them in the Phils., they could easily bail out and leave. Most Filipinos living and working there, do not have that luxury.

[cashwriters]

Cashwriters...I don't beleive raids on cybersex joints is part of the solution. Lot of these girls are forced into this line of work, not by someone else, but by choice. "Forced by choice"...is that an oximoron? The other choices are starvation or prostitution. Given these three choices, cyberstripping seems like a pretty attractive choice isn't it? Most of these girls support their families including parents that can't work and younger siblings. Abruptly closing these joints give them only 2 other choices. Which one would you choose? The problem in the Phils is, there are not enough jobs for high school graduates that pay living wages. Why is current enrolment in college or a college degree a requirement for fast food jobs in the Phils? These jobs in the US are mostly filled by currently enrolled high school students or new high school graduates. Who needs a college degree for cashiering or flipping and bagging hamburgers? These are easily learned by on the job training. These high school grads here sometimes end up becoming assistant mgrs and mgrs of these joints giving them enough experience to move to a better company or move up higher in the company without ever going to college.


Imperfect as it is in terms of addressing the whole wide spectrum of socio-economic issues you raise behind the sexcam/cybersex industry, the ongoing raids/investigations/digital tracking is the only solution until the new law passes making all forms of cybersex work illegal. It is just one part of the puzzle, but society has to start somewhere. Society must not legalize or tolerate such activities because it leads to moral decay, breeds an environment where women and children have a higher chance of being abused, and invites the Syndicato and other local versions of the Mafia to start killing each other and other operators and practice extortion in this legal 'twilight zone.'

Everyone contact your senator/congressman and let's get SB 1892 passed. It's just a first step, I know. But it's a step in the right direction.

[omeng]

Guys, if we could limit our communication within the thread topic, better for a young entrep, like me, cough, cough. :D

Did you know that Sen. Villar passed this senate bill 509, proposing this teaching of entrepreneurship in primary, secondary and college level? And replace those subject not relevant anymore in our time. He said, entrep education should start at the earliest level.

Kaya, guys, yung mga patumpik-tumpik na palurker-lurker dyan, kayo din, baka pag dating ng panahon (hindi ni aiza) maging boss niyo ang mga nakababatang nag-aral ng entrepreneurship. :D

Be your own boss, ika nga. ;)

[omeng]

Btw, very good input, cashwriters.

==========================================================

Quote for today;

"Set your goals high... and then exceed them!" - from the Magic of Thinking Big by Dr. Schwartz

[omeng]

mag-gre-greet lang sandali..

Happy Birthday, Silentmax? :D

[Krakista]

this is a follow up to my earlier question, anyone here can refer me to a supplier of medical paraphernalia like gauzes, needles, and suchTry MedXpress at tel. 634-3333.

[omeng]

The 6.5B SM 'Mall of Asia' will be open tomorrow. Sy said, "This is our own way to contribute to the economy. 10,000 new jobs will keep the ball rolling."

[omeng]

Quote for tonight;

"Success means winning."

[baludoy]

krakista says:

Try MedXpress at tel. 634-3333.

thanks i'll try this but i'm more inclined to talk to a wholesaler of stuffs like those. any more referrals? :)

[Trevi]

thanks i'll try this but i'm more inclined to talk to a wholesaler of stuffs like those. any more referrals? :)

You can try FAR EASTERN MEDICAL SUPPLY - Main office is in SHAW BLVD. There are a lot of Medical Suppy Co(s) but the cheaper products you can get from traders who service / indent to/for Governemt Hospitals. If you have time, Why not go to PGH and/or the likes of San Lazaro hopsital and ask the Purchasing officers/clerks their accredited suppliers. You can also call the office of your-favorite-congressman and ask the staff kung sino sino suppliers ang matiyaga mag-alok sa mga boss nila ng medical supplies para sa kanilang district :) - FYI.

[sweetwahm]

hey entreps and would-be entreps, pasali din ha?

i'm in the process of putting up my own biz. working on my business plan right now para i can at least spare myself from too much surprises. i hope i have my arse covered, hehehehe.

a quick question po: i will be manufacturing a product. say my raw materials come from another place pa and i will be paying freight to have them shipped to me. in determining the cost of producing my actual product, should frieght count? freight varies on the amount (weight?) of raw material purchased, so how do i include it in computing, for example, the cost of 1 product? sorry guys if it sounds like a stupid question but i really wouldnt be asking if i knew how. i just need to determine how much it costs so i can set the price. :)

[omeng]

Welcome on board, Sweetwahm.

Nothing to sorry about, it's a good question, but to be well prepared into that battle, I strongly suggest that you attend this "Basic Importing" in PTTC. Will you export your product? If that is so, then I strongly suggest again to attend this "Basic Exporting" at PTTC. They have also this "Product Costing" and "Custom Valuation". Investment will only be less than 12k and 15 days, if i'm not mistaken. These are good seminars/training that you can get. It's cheap because it's subsidize by the government. Plus you will get good contacts for your products, i.e. packaging design, etc.etc.

Best of luck. ;)

[zerone]

sino nakakaalam nung main office ng siopao factory? pati contact info? thanks.

[omeng]

May 26, 2006

The InTourPreneur Conference is a 3 day business conference that is focused on promoting ICT, Tourism, and Entrepreneurship as Cebu's Competitive thrust in developing the economy. Entrepreneur Magazine, as a partner to the Cebu Chamber of Commerce would like to invite you to attend this conference as a way to understand and expand to the Southern Philippines market.

The first day, June 21, is the main plenary where top government officials, and businessmen discuss the big picture of the growth of ICT, Tourism & Entrepreneurship/ Franchising and the opportunities of Southern Philippines / Greater Cebu plays.

June 22, the second day, the delegate has a choice of five tracks to choose from:


ICT Conference (ICT Track)
Tourism Congress (Tourism Track)
Health and Wellness Forum (Tourism/ SME Track)
ComputerWorld Executive Briefing on E-LGU (ICT Track)
Franchising Conference (Entrepreneur Track)

June 23, the third day, the delegate may have a choice of three tracks:


Entrepreneurship Conference (Entrepreneur Track)
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ComputerWorld Briefing on E-SME (ICT/Entrepreneur Track)

This conference with more than 100 top speakers is P2,300 for three days ( including 3 lunch and 6 snacks) if delegate confirm and pays before June 15. It will be P2,800 between June 16 to 20, and will be P3,200 for onsite registration.

Our co-presentor, Cebu Pacific always has special promos and discounts available all year round for those who book early. We recommend you to check these fares out. For delegates who are not able to avail of their promos may write the Cebu chamber of Commerce. We can issue a certification to you which will allow you to get 30% off regular fares for attending INtourPreneur. The following are also special Waterfront Hotel rates for delegates:

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[Krakista]

sino nakakaalam nung main office ng siopao factory? pati contact info? thanks.The Siopao Factory (http://www.siopaofactory.com/). Or you can try Pao Express along D. Tuazon, a block away from your pizza supplier. You can call them at (632) 7819377.

[zerone]

The Siopao Factory (http://www.siopaofactory.com/). Or you can try Pao Express along D. Tuazon, a block away from your pizza supplier. You can call them at (632) 7819377.

Thanks Krakista!

Also silentmax thanks for the PM!

[omeng]

Good morning, guys!

Pampagana for this week. Good article from Donald.

Each Success is the Beginning of the Next One
by Donald J. Trump

What lies behind us
and what lies before us
are tiny matters compared
to what lies within us.

-- Emerson

That thought by Ralph Waldo Emerson has always been an inspiration to me. It gives me energy to keep going full force because I know I still have a lot to accomplish. No matter what I may have achieved, or plan to achieve, I know it’s ‘a tiny matter’ compared to what I am capable of doing. Think about it. How can we be complacent with that kind of thought pattern going on? It would be impossible!

When I hear people say things like “It’s impossible to do more!” I always smile to myself and think, “I’ve just started!” It’s just a great way to feel. I’d like you to have that feeling, too, because it’s like having stepping stones in all the right places just waiting for you to see them.

Sometimes it helps to minimize your achievements to yourself so that you will be eager to do more. You might say, “Yeah, that was good, but I’m just getting warmed up” as a way to keep yourself challenged. The best achievers are those who are self-motivated and naturally curious, people who don’t need to be told what to do next. Strive to be that kind of person. Entrepreneurs are driven by inner forces. That’s a great way to live as well as a great approach to life.

What lies within us? Hopefully, there are a lot of great ideas and plans for the future coupled with confidence in our ability to achieve them. I think Emerson was alluding to this idea of hope in his statement. It’s important for survival, and it’s important for success. Sometimes it is what keeps us going when the odds may not be on our side. Don’t underestimate the power of some of the unseen or intangible forces in your life. Just because you can’t see something doesn’t mean it’s not there. The first person to give you a chance should be yourself.

So give yourself a chance every single day! Some people really are their own worst enemies. Don’t fall into that abyss, because that’s really what it is. Have you ever watched children when they are trying something new? They are excited, they are eager, and they welcome the challenge. That’s an attitude to recapture or to emulate. The enthusiasm that discovery provides is a reliable way to make sure that everything you are doing is paving the way towards your current as well as future successes. I recently received a letter from my kindergarten teacher. She wrote that what she remembered most clearly about me was that I never stopped asking questions. I wrote back to tell her that some things never change—that I still ask a lot of questions. I said that it had obviously served me well, and I thanked her, belatedly, for her patience many years ago. Every one of my questions was the beginning of the next one.

So here’s one question for you. If you had nothing at all to do, what would you do? And after you did that, what would you do? And after you did that, what would be next on your list? I call that multi-thinking versus multi-tasking. Most people have at least a few things they want to do. Sometimes one thing leads to another—that’s a form of discovery. Discovery breeds discovery, as in success breeds success. Questions are thoughts with a quest.

Can you guess what the quest is? Knowledge. Knowledge is power. That’s one reason you’re reading this essay. No one is born a know-it-all. Wouldn’t that be a little boring? I think it might be. Fortunately, at this time in history, things are moving so quickly that no one has the right to boredom. Just keeping up is the challenge we all have today. I like that challenge because a challenge equals a success just waiting to happen.

Let’s end this with a few good questions.

What lies behind you? What are your life experiences and education up to this point?
What lies before you? What are your goals, your plans, your aspirations?
What lies within you? Do you have what it takes to succeed? Do you know the full extent of your abilities yet? Do you know what the future holds for you? Do you know how your dreams will evolve?

All of life is full of mystery, including your life, which is no tiny matter. So don’t sell yourself short on something that important. Today is just the beginning.

[superfishy]

Hello guys! I'll be on-board this forum as well. May movement na ang business e. :)

[trizfores]

hello fellow entrepreneurs,

i have a business offer for you guys if you're interested. i'm a dealer looking for some retailers that are willing to sell load. all kinds of load. not just limited to prepaid. the capital's very limited. lowest investment package starts at P300 only!!!

interested parties, contact me asap!

regards,
bea

0917-5001111

[baludoy]

tnx trevi :)

[csa-entrep]

one of my dreams is to organize a group of young entrepreneurs, under the age of 30, that have or are planning to start their own business...

i already have a list of friends (more than 30-40 people), that i would be able to invite into the group.. these people are really bsiness minded..

from those people, they would also be able to bring their friends in...

anyways, the group would be no charge, and we will be gathering once a month at a specific place to share business ideas and interact, and meet new people.. everyone will be under 30, maybe around the 25-26 age range at average.

would anyone here in PEX, or if not here in PEX, would anyone will be able to refer their entrep-minded friends to join the group?

this group will NOT in any way tolerate any MLM related subjects. this will be pure networking of various business trends and issues, and also sharing of ideas and business ventures. MLM subjects will not be allowed.

you can send me or reply to this thread with your name, age, and what industry you are in and what experience u have.

i plan to move forward with this group by around end of june, after i finish some current business projects..

thanks!

chris

[speQter]

Hey folks!

I'm planning to buy a shawarma franchise because I found a nice location for it. It's near a market, a school, a jeep terminal and a church.

Can anyone tell me what permits I need to obtain?

Thanks!

[sweetwahm]

Welcome on board, Sweetwahm.

Nothing to sorry about, it's a good question, but to be well prepared into that battle, I strongly suggest that you attend this "Basic Importing" in PTTC. Will you export your product? If that is so, then I strongly suggest again to attend this "Basic Exporting" at PTTC. They have also this "Product Costing" and "Custom Valuation". Investment will only be less than 12k and 15 days, if i'm not mistaken. These are good seminars/training that you can get. It's cheap because it's subsidize by the government. Plus you will get good contacts for your products, i.e. packaging design, etc.etc.

Best of luck. ;)

thanks a bunch omeng. ya, i know pttc, i've been fortunate to attend a few seminars sponsored by my work. i wasnt in on costing and pricing though. :( my product is not for export for now but a basic exporting seminar will probably do me a lot of good. the raw materials are a bit tricky kasi it has to be imported. there are substitutes in the local scene, but very few and rather inferior in quality. i can't say what my product is right now but in a survey i did for my target market, its showing some potential. This is really just a hobby for me but my hubby's been encouraging me for some time to consider going into business (so that i can at least continue tinkering with the stuff i do and cover the cost of the materials i use). i've given it some thought, and yeah, i guess i can do this. i'll keep you guys posted on my developments. :)

[omeng]

Best of luck!

Quote for today;

"As a general rule, the most successful man in life is the man who has the best information."

- Benjamin Disraeli

[cyclops22]

csa-entrep : sure can i join? pero u said around 25-26 range I'm only 22 so i will your baby boy sa group hehe- mukang alam kokung san school ka? malamang same school tayong pinanggalingan hehe

[omeng]

csa-entrep, goodluck with your dreams. But I don't know man, interacting with same age and more or less same business experience will not give much wisdom for both parties. But I don't know again man, maybe it's just me. :D

[csa-entrep]

one of my dreams is to organize a group of young entrepreneurs, under the age of 30, that have or are planning to start their own business...

i already have a list of friends (more than 30-40 people), that i would be able to invite into the group.. these people are really bsiness minded..

from those people, they would also be able to bring their friends in...

anyways, the group would be no charge, and we will be gathering once a month at a specific place to share business ideas and interact, and meet new people.. everyone will be under 30, maybe around the 25-26 age range at average.

would anyone here in PEX, or if not here in PEX, would anyone will be able to refer their entrep-minded friends to join the group?

this group will NOT in any way tolerate any MLM related subjects. this will be pure networking of various business trends and issues, and also sharing of ideas and business ventures. MLM subjects will not be allowed.

you can send me or reply to this thread with your name, age, and what industry you are in and what experience u have.

i plan to move forward with this group by around end of june, after i finish some current business projects..

thanks!

chris

definietly guys you are welcomed to join.

please PM me your email and cellphone number, also your entrep experiences, i will keep you posted of future events, by the end of the month or mid july.

i will also gather a database, para naman first meet naman natin marami rami namang tao.

i said kanina that the people would "average" around 25-26, but there will be people still that are 22, 23, etc.

omeng, yes i know i understand that we are interacting with less experienced people (compared to older people with more experience), but the mindset of the person on entrep is what really matters.

moreover, its also advantageous to be interacting also with people at your level as you can grow with them.

[DarkStreet]

^Good luck Chris, like Omeng said, interacting with the same age...well, all of my friends are businessmen and wer in the same industry and the same age, i dnt get all of good ideas from them, much better if the group are composed of experienced youngs and good matured businessmen tulad ng Alumni Organization ng school ninyo.

opinion lang.

[Trevi]

definietly guys you are welcomed to join.

omeng, yes i know i understand that we are interacting with less experienced people (compared to older people with more experience), but the mindset of the person on entrep is what really matters.

moreover, its also advantageous to be interacting also with people at your level as you can grow with them.

@CSA-entrep MOST (note qualifier) young start-ups think that being with like-minded - like-age entreps translates to collective strength.....not really. Depending on the orgs leadership, orgs management and most of all orgs objective, this can be counter productive. Just think, managing ALL 20+something ideas, energy drive and gung-ho...somebody's gotta listen to someone. ;) good luck!

Hi Omeng :) thanks for the e-mail. Hope all is well with you. :) I accepted a teaching load (1 subject lang naman/3 units) this June. Chance ko bang mag pay-back sa taxpayers at iskolar ng bayan. EB tayo (mga da-mats :rolleyes:) soon. My office okay for our venue. Everybody welcome. Hello to all...Kraks, Max and the rest :)

[omeng]

Hi Professora Trevi! Galing naman. :D

Not very well here. After that storm, it's now raining. Waiting for the sunshine. :D

Nag sa-sunset boulevard yata si Max sa mall of asia.

Noted about EB. First week July, I guess.

[omeng]

Welcome aboard DarkStreet!

May we know what business are you in?

===============================================

Quote for today;

"When you feel your progress on the job is slowing down, THINK BIG."

- D. Schwartz

[omeng]

Hello Superfishy.

Care to share your business here? Your experience as a start up?

[Krakista]

China Software Industry Report 2006 (http://news.csdn.net/n/20060530/91074.html)

Huawei is number 1 with about USD 2B and Microsoft China is number 14 with about USD 250M.

[lady_insong]

Hello to all.

[sweetwahm]

Hey everyone :wave: Just checking in to get some daily dose of those inspirations you guys post :)

[omeng]

Hello, too, lady_insong.

**********************************************************

Seven Steps For Creating Successful Marketing
by Jay Conrad Levinson


1. Find the inherent drama within your offering.

After all, you plan to make money by selling a product or a service or both. The reasons people will want to buy from you should give you a clue as to the inherent drama in your product or service. Something about your offering must be inherently interesting or you wouldn't be putting it up for sale. In Mother Nature breakfast cereal, it is the high concentration of vitamins and minerals.



2. Translate that inherent drama into a meaningful benefit.

Always remember that people buy benefits, not features. People do not buy shampoo; people buy great-looking or clean or manageable hair. People do not buy cars; people buy speed, status, style, economy, performance, and power. Mothers of young kids do not buy cereal; they buy nutrition, though many buy anything at all they can get their kids to eat -- anything. So find the major benefit of your offering and write it down. It should come directly from the inherently dramatic feature. And even though you have four or five benefits, stick with one or two—three at most.


3. State your benefits as believably as possible.

There is a world of difference between honesty and believability. You can be 100 percent honest (as you should be) and people still may not believe you. You must go beyond honesty, beyond the barrier that advertising has erected by its tendency toward exaggeration, and state your benefit in such a way that it will be accepted beyond doubt. The company producing Mother Nature breakfast cereal might say, "A bowl of Mother Nature breakfast cereal provides your child with almost as many vitamins as a multi-vitamin pill." This statement begins with the inherent drama, turns it into a benefit, and is worded believably. The word almost lends believability.


4. Get people's attention.

People do not pay attention to advertising. They pay attention only to things that interest them. And sometimes they find those things in advertising. So you've just got to interest them. And while you're at it, be sure you interest them in your product or service, not just your advertising. I'm sure you're familiar with advertising that you remember for a product you do not remember. Many advertisers are guilty of creating advertising that's more interesting than whatever it is they are advertising. But you can prevent yourself from falling into that trap by memorizing this line: Forget the ad, is the product or service interesting? The Mother Nature company might put their point across by showing a picture of two hands breaking open a multivitamin capsule from which pour flakes that fall into an appetizing-looking bowl of cereal.


5. Motivate your audience to do something.

Tell them to visit the store, as the Mother Nature company might do. Tell them to make a phone call, fill in a coupon, write for more information, ask for your product by name, take a test drive, or come in for a free demonstration. Don't stop short. To make guerrilla marketing work, you must tell people exactly what you want them to do.

6. Be sure you are communicating clearly.

You may know what you're talking about, but do your readers or listeners? Recognize that people aren't really thinking about your business and that they'll only give about half their attention to your ad— even when they are paying attention. Knock yourself out to make sure you are putting your message across. The Mother Nature company might show its ad to ten people and ask them what the main point is. If one person misunderstands, that means 10 percent of the audience will misunderstand. And if the ad goes out to 500,000 people, 50,000 will miss the main point. That's unacceptable. One hundred percent of the audience should get the main point. The company might accomplish this by stating in a headline or subhead, "Giving your kids Mother Nature breakfast cereal is like giving your kids vitamins—only tastier." Zero ambiguity is your goal.


7. Measure your finished advertisement, commercial, letter, or brochure against your creative strategy.

The strategy is your blueprint. If your ad fails to fulfill the strategy, it's a lousy ad, no matter how much you love it. Scrap it and start again. All along, you should be using your creative strategy to guide you, to give you hints as to the content of your ad. If you don't, you may end up being creative in a vacuum. And that's not being creative at all. If your ad is in line with your strategy, you may then judge its other elements.



Jay Conrad Levinson is the creator of the Guerrilla Marketing series of books - the best selling series of business books in history. He is also responsible for some of the most successful ad campaigns in history, including *the* most successful in history: The Marlboro Man. Jay is responsible for countless small businesses becoming huge household names. Learn how he does this in his latest book: "Guerrilla Marketing for the New Millennium".

[chick_00_kisses]

my mom wants me to operate a travel agency...
*** mga magsschedule ng mga city tours...
like chinapanorama.

[omeng]

.......... :d

[omeng]

But you're just a kid? :D

After I finished college, I attended this 2 weeks training in airline passenger booking and ticketing. That time, "bond" for having travel agency was P500k. Accreditation from the airline (issuing your own ticket) is another thing for it will cost you a lot. Last year, i heard that to get PAL accreditation to issue a ticket, was P2M (I am not so sure how true). Then you will have also "quota" for this. So most agency today, do not issue tickets, most of them are called booking office.

Why call or go travel agency when you can text them via your mobile phone and get a confirmation for your seat? :D

City tours can be sub contract.

[zerone]

Omeng: where'd u take the training for the airline passenger booking and ticketing? :) was it worth it?

also, does anybody know a kakanin/sapin-sapin supplier? thanks. :)

[Krakista]

also, does anybody know a kakanin/sapin-sapin supplier? thanks. :)Not me. :) But it makes me wonder whatever happened to La Chesca? I think it presents an opportunity for anyone who wants to fill the niche vacated by La Chesca.

[omeng]

Zerone: At Trafalgar Building in Makati. Company is ABACUS. The fees was 5k+, if my derailed mind serves me right. :D Almost all were recommended to different travel agencies. I think, 85% was hired but not me because i was hired by a domestic airline as direct. Worth naman, kasi dahil din naman duon, nagpabalik-balik ako sa boracay and palawan.. he he.

[jazzy]

Some question in incorporating. I plan to register a new business under Corporation type, but I dont want to partner to anybody, except probably my wife. As far as I remember, one of the requirements for incorporating is, there must be 4-6(not sure about exact number) people will serve as incorporators. What's the workaround for this?

Thanks!

[chick_00_kisses]

But you're just a kid? :D

After I finished college, I attended this 2 weeks training in airline passenger booking and ticketing. That time, "bond" for having travel agency was P500k. Accreditation from the airline (issuing your own ticket) is another thing for it will cost you a lot. Last year, i heard that to get PAL accreditation to issue a ticket, was P2M (I am not so sure how true). Then you will have also "quota" for this. So most agency today, do not issue tickets, most of them are called booking office.

Why call or go travel agency when you can text them via your mobile phone and get a confirmation for your seat? :D

City tours can be sub contract.

am a kid, yeah! am 18 lang.
part of the plan is to be a ticketing office too!
pero siguro ngayon part nalang.
for it costs too much!

we want to focus sana on tours...
and educational trips for the grade/highschool...
like sa corregeidor... fort santiago...
mga ganun.

do i still have to be accredited kung ganun lang?
have accreditation from dept. of tourism?

thanks!

[omeng]

Chick: Better if you will go to DOT. Since they promote so much philippines, for sure they will accomodate your concerns. Try to look for the Entrepreneur Magazine with the feature of how to have your travel agency as a business. You can find old issues at Filbars.

By the way, I was just kidding with the "kid" thing. Dalaga ka na pala. :D


Jazzy: You will be needing 5 people. Get a dummy for the 3. Give them 1% each. Rest is yours and to your wife. Good luck.

[csa-entrep]

Some question in incorporating. I plan to register a new business under Corporation type, but I dont want to partner to anybody, except probably my wife. As far as I remember, one of the requirements for incorporating is, there must be 4-6(not sure about exact number) people will serve as incorporators. What's the workaround for this?

Thanks!

theres alot of hard work on this... alot of leg work..

i would suggest that you have an accountant or anyone knowledgeable to do it for u, if you have a budget for professional fees..

by-laws, cover sheet, mayors permit, business permit, documentary stamps, etc. theres so many.

and yes, just get dummies... people you can trust, just in case something happens.

but yes, a corporation is 10x better than a sole proprietor... your personal assets are safe, and tax benefits too

[omeng]

csa-entrep, do you have your own corporation? thanks

[Trevi]

Some question in incorporating. I plan to register a new business under Corporation type, but I dont want to partner to anybody, except probably my wife. As far as I remember, one of the requirements for incorporating is, there must be 4-6(not sure about exact number) people will serve as incorporators. What's the workaround for this?

Thanks!

If its just you and the wifey, then go into a GENERAL Partnership (there is a LIMITED partnership too). Corporation needs a minimum of 5. You can assign nominal shares. You still have controlling interests.

[Trevi]

and yes, just get dummies... people you can trust, just in case something happens.



Come to think of it, this is a funny statement.:)
No wonder stats say that only 8% of Corporations registered yearly stay in business

Nominees, is the politically correct term. :bop:

[beefnmushroom]

No wonder stats say that only 8% of Corporations registered yearly stay in business


just curious, where did you get that stat? is that data for the philippine setting?

[zerone]

Not me. :) But it makes me wonder whatever happened to La Chesca? I think it presents an opportunity for anyone who wants to fill the niche vacated by La Chesca.

san kaya ako makakahanap? hmm... oo nga, i wonder where did they go? pero diba 1 branch lang meron sila? yung sa ongpin? sarap naman ng food nila e.

[zerone]

Zerone: At Trafalgar Building in Makati. Company is ABACUS. The fees was 5k+, if my derailed mind serves me right. :D Almost all were recommended to different travel agencies. I think, 85% was hired but not me because i was hired by a domestic airline as direct. Worth naman, kasi dahil din naman duon, nagpabalik-balik ako sa boracay and palawan.. he he.

oh. i've heard bout that na nga. i thought you went to a different one. thanks!

[jazzy]

Thanks csa-entrep, Trevi and omeng.

[omeng]

What a beautiful day today!!! I really love me. :D

[lady_insong]

What do you mean pag young entrep? Newbie here

[trizfores]

hello,

i'm looking for business partners that want to venture in the electronic loading business. even though minimal time is put into the business, it's ok with me. the business is lucrative. can you imagine how many people use prepaid loads in the country???!!! if you're interested, please do contact me at trizfores@yahoo.com or 0917-5001111. god bless!

[omeng]

trizfores, I cannot imagine. :D . By the way, why don't you present here on the board so we could make discussions?

[omeng]

What do you mean pag young entrep? Newbie here

young entrep means barely legal. :lol:

it was discussed already on the board. scavenger mode ka muna. :D

[phat_azz_TKD]

hello... aspiring entrepreneur po ako... does anyone have a sample or a copy of a product questionnaire? i would just like to see the format and the introduction... i'm in the early stages of marketing e. please give me a pm. thanks. :)

[csa-entrep]

yes i do have my own corporation... it is a big help.. seriously..

Trevi - NO. general partnership pag dalawa lang kayo is still not corporation, and you are not covered legally whatsoever with your personal life. its just almost the same as a sole proprietor. a corp is a person without a soul in which if it is sued, it can only sue the assets owned in the corporation..

also, not to mention tax benefits.

[Trevi]

yes i do have my own corporation... it is a big help.. seriously..

Trevi - NO. general partnership pag dalawa lang kayo is still not corporation, and you are not covered legally whatsoever with your personal life. its just almost the same as a sole proprietor. a corp is a person without a soul in which if it is sued, it can only sue the assets owned in the corporation..

also, not to mention tax benefits.

csa entrep- I never said a partnership was a corporation. I just said that if you wanted to keep it to two parties, then go for a Partnership. What is the fear in being sued / having legal issues, when you are doing a legal business.

For me Tax is a very personal thing. If you want to shave off some is one's own decision.

Get a good accountant and a lawyer and RUN the business, make it profitable and make it work.

[jazzy]

Another question: Im thinking of hiring a certain person as a manager and will offer her a (percent) shares for the new corporation, what will be a fair agreement for both party in case she(manager) decided to leave the company?

Thanks!

[Trevi]

Another question: Im thinking of hiring a certain person as a manager and will offer her a (percent) shares for the new corporation, what will be a fair agreement for both party in case she(manager) decided to leave the company?

Thanks!

@jazzy is this part of her compensation ? or an incentive ? Is the shares her contribution as industrial partner ?

IMO the first thing is to know WHY you are giving her shares. Then with that settled you can now draw up with a fair agreement between the two of you. I am NOT a lawyer, but thats how I would do it.

The others in the thread may have better ideas.

[omeng]

Jazzy, can you give more details on it?

[omeng]

5 Reasons To Journal Your Goals

Writing out your goals, sharing them with others and actually visualizing your success will bring you powerful results!

It doesn't really matter how you record your goals - it only matters that you take the time to really focus on them. But, the more detailed your wants and needs are spelled out on paper and in your mind, the more accurate they'll be to achieve.

Even by writing out your goals you are more likely to achieve them. It's true, even if you wrote the goals and then threw away your journal you are still more likely to achieve your goals than avoiding this exercise all together.

The goals you write are still there in your subconscious mind. Give your mind a boost and add more detail and visualization to the goals you plan to accomplish.
For example: One of your personal goals maybe to own a new sports car someday. Okay, now detail the type of car, color, options and the date you plan on getting the new car.

Reason #1 Helps To Relieve Stress - The exercise of journaling is not only good for your mental state, but your physical state as well. Yes, it will help with confusion, anger and stress.

When you journal your goals you know where you are headed, what you truly want out of life and you begin to create a blueprint towards a higher level of success.

Reason #2 Helps To Analyze Solutions - When you write out your needs and wants honestly and completely, you will find that you lose yourself in your writing.

You may find additional meaning to the things you say or do. You may also find the solutions to overcome the obstacles that are holding you back from reaching your goals.

When overwhelming life events are reduced to words on paper, words that can be analyzed and seen from a different perspective with our thoughts, you will gain a new perspective of the situation and find new solutions for seemingly difficult problems.

Reason #3 Discover Hidden Talents & Aspirations - Let your feelings flow without critiquing the way you write them. Simply pour out your heart and your feelings. You will be amazed at how your writing and focus will improve. The hardest part is getting started.

But once you have a dozen or so goals written down, keep going until you reach 101. If you open your mind and focus on where you want to go without setting limits the words should flow quickly and easily.

Reason #4 Increase Your Creativity - Everyone has the ability to become more creative. Journaling flues the creative spirit and soon your ability to communicate on paper will also help you to dramatically improve your personal interaction with other people as well.

Reason #5 Unlocks Your Subconscious - Your journal can be a therapist. A journal does not complain, cry or judge you in anyway. Your goals journal will accept your thoughts and ideas freely and easily without question. By transcribing emotions onto pages, you can gain a better prospective of your emotional life.

Not only is a journal a therapist and motivator to help you reach your goals, it also will revel your dreams, future accomplishments, hopes for the future and remind you of your aspirations.

Journals are tools to help you discover the wisdom you already possess. Sometimes, this wisdom will surprise you. Other times, it will challenge you. Always, it will come directly from you, empowering you to trust yourself and to take action by giving you the deep-seated knowledge that you know more than you think you do.

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[kyan101]

pwede po bang maki join?....

trizpores
ako po interesado sa business nyo. PM nyo po ako....
salamat po.....

[jazzy]

Jazzy, can you give more details on it?

The share will be part of her incentive. I would like to offer her a lucrative package and let her feel that the business is also her business. Im just worried what will happen if she decided to leave and yet still partly own the company. Is it ok to take it back once she resign or buy it in really low price tag?

She is currently working as a manager in a more stable company. So i have to offer her irresistable package.:)

[omeng]

ok, but the problem with that kind of agreement (industrial partner, if i may say), she can still easily let go with the business. If i am with your shoes, I will ask her to pay the equivalent shares that she will take. In case she doesn't have the money yet for the shares, then, "utang niya sa kompanya yun", if later on, the business is doing good, then "divedendo" time, 'awasin' dapat sa kanya yon.

Better this way, kung ang pag-alis niya ang iniisip mo at wala naman siyang ibinibigay na pera para sa shares, then you don't have to pay her. Don't tell me na mag-kakautang ka pa sa kanya? Sana ikaw na lang ang boss ko. :D

Two things, obligation and commitments. Dapat ma-realize niya yan. But this is me. :D

[csa-entrep]

csa entrep- I never said a partnership was a corporation. I just said that if you wanted to keep it to two parties, then go for a Partnership. What is the fear in being sued / having legal issues, when you are doing a legal business.

For me Tax is a very personal thing. If you want to shave off some is one's own decision.

Get a good accountant and a lawyer and RUN the business, make it profitable and make it work.

1. i own a corporation, and technically i am doing 100% of the work, more about LIKE a sole proprietor. i own 96% of the business, each other person owns 1%.

2. i am doing legal business, and i dont pressume to be sued, but protection is always needed just in case anything may happen.

3. if you dont still understand the power of owning a corporation, buy rich dad 1 book, theres a whole chapter there about owning corporations. read that chapter first before getting back at me.

[omeng]

cough.. cough.. makabili nga ng rich dad book na yan. :D

[jazzy]

Thanks omeng and the gang. :)

Ayaw ko lang malagay ang business o ang sarili ko sa alanganin.:naughty:

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[tennisace]

1. i own a corporation, and technically i am doing 100% of the work, more about LIKE a sole proprietor. i own 96% of the business, each other person owns 1%.

2. i am doing legal business, and i dont pressume to be sued, but protection is always needed just in case anything may happen.

3. if you dont still understand the power of owning a corporation, buy rich dad 1 book, theres a whole chapter there about owning corporations. read that chapter first before getting back at me.
First, I think it’s fair to say that most, if not all of the participants in this thread understand what a corporation is.

Second, there is no such thing as one person “technically” doing 100% of the work. Either you are or you aren’t, plain and simple. According to Phil. corporate rules, at least 5 people should technically be doing the work. You have it the other way around.

Third, Kiyosaki’s primer on corporations does not fully address the state of Philippine corporate affairs and the issues therein. In the US, one may choose among several business structures: sole proprietorship, partnership, limited liability company, limited liability partnership, S corporation and C corporation. The IRS also allows some latitude on the method of taxation. Plus, corporate rules allow a single person to establish a company. There is no capitalization requirement, and you’re not even required to have a bank account. As long as you can pay for the filing fees, you’re in business. In most cases, you can file your biz applications online. Your federal tax ID number can be obtained immediately thru one simple toll-free phone call. And, unlike in the Phils., the SEC is not allowed by law to be involved in the business of any privately-held enterprise. US business rules are set up to encourage the establishment of entrepreneurship under a system of free enterprise. In the Phils., this is not the case. The references for corporate Philippines should be sourced locally, not on some material published overseas by a foreign author who is addressing the state of affairs in his own country.

Fourth, the corporate “veil” or “shield” that you alluded to is no longer as bullet-proof as it once was. One’s personal assets are in fact vulnerable and can be seized. Hence, it is not unusual for rich corporate executives to employ asset protection and wealth preservation strategies to shield their personal assets from encumbrances and/or seizures.

Fifth, there’s no question that corporations offer the greatest tax advantages. However, we also need to understand that the tax benefits are not automatic. One must be meticulous in preserving paper trails. Deductions have to be qualified and justified.

It would behoove you to listen to what Trevi has to say.

[omeng]

Nagbago isip ko.. di na ako bibili ng rich dad. :lol:


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Quote for today;

"Die rich."

[tennisace]

From the yellowed pages of tennisace quotes:

Opportunities appear bigger going than coming.

[Trevi]

3. if you dont still understand the power of owning a corporation, buy rich dad 1 book, theres a whole chapter there about owning corporations. read that chapter first before getting back at me.

No breast beating here, but I DO OWN One corporation at 96% ,..actually, a holdings company for several small/medium businesses I have started and founded. I am also part of several other companies where I was invited to invest, ..and uhmm .but not as a dummy....

I have read the book, thank you. In Hardbound. If you want the audio cd's I have them too. :)

I would normally not put much credence to your responses and posts, but if you may, please do some backreads to know that I am not a greenhorn, and I am not lacking in academic foundation and work experience not to know what you are talking about.

[Trevi]

First, I think it’s fair to say that most, if not all of the participants in this thread understand what a corporation is.

It would behoove you to listen to what Trevi has to say.

Hi TennisAce..thanks. :) I don't like to think we WERE once like THAT....;) Wisdom nga naman...

I just don't know if it is better to show your SCARS..or your STARS to get some respect..whatever it is, if you EARN it then you have it.

My best regards.:)

[tennisace]

Oh, I think stars are earned thru scars. As far as respect is concerned, you know you have mine. Same goes to those who give this thread its life and purpose, although some of us are "young" only in our minds. hehehe

[circa]

HI mga bossing,
after ng dti registration, ano ba sunod mayor's permit o BIR muna?
thanks in advance

[omeng]

^ barangay --> mayor --> bir

[sharingan]

im back! musta na sir omeng,max,krakista and company? kumusta na business ninyo? hope you're doing fine

[ThAHuStLa]

I need some bright enterprising minds on this question guys....

I am setting up a start-up IT business with a capitalization of around 400k PHP. I'm sort of confused with the suggestions made here in PEx. In terms of expenses paid (income tax for Sole Prop and Corp tax and double taxation for Corporation) where do you think it would be more advantageous? Most accountants I've spoken with are recommending that I register under a corporation for the same reason stated by csa-entrep. Any insights on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot.

[omeng]

Police Entrepreneur

All vendors in sunset boulevard in Mall of Asia are required to pay 50pesos if they want to enter and sell in that area. They are about morethan 30 vendors. P1,500 per day or P45,000 per month. What an instant money!?!

1 pack of morris cost me 50 bucks.

[Trevi]

Police Entrepreneur

All vendors in sunset boulevard in Mall of Asia are required to pay 50pesos if they want to enter and sell in that area. They are about morethan 30 vendors. P1,500 per day or P45,000 per month. What an instant money!?!

1 pack of morris cost me 50 bucks.

Saan kaya napupunta ang "Tong" na iyan...I don't think papatulan pa iyan ni Tatang (Sy) masyado na yan barya para sa KANYA... baka pang FTB (for the boys) ni mayor iyan.

Ang reclaimed area ba is part of Pasay o Manila ?

Btw Omeng, feeling patriotic ako yesterday, panay ang wagayway ko ng bandila kahapon. I was mighty proud..though dual na ako, it sure feels better holding the pinoy, rather than the maple leaf. :)

[tennisace]

I'm allergic to maple.

[omeng]

It's Pasay, I think. Baka nga FTB pero nababa na naman ang tingin ko sa kapulisan.

Nagkabit kami ng malaking flag sa building ng office namin. Very big and it's cool. Btw, FSP founder want to meet you in August. Who knows, baka ikaw ang magtatag ng chapter sa canada. Ika nga "iwagayway mo ang bandila mo". :D

bok, at bakit ka naman allergic? di ka sanay mag-french? :lol:


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KD, papatalastas lang from FSP...



Message: June 12, 2006

To All,

In behalf of Flag Society Philippines, We want to
send our sincere thanks and gratitude to the
jubilant Students, Teachers, the Principal, the
Officers and Staff of Dr. Alejandro Albert
Elementary School. Also to the parents who where
there and of course, it would have not been that
exciting, joyful and meaningful without ABS-CBN
TV Network, Marc Logan and the crew which made
it possible to address our patriotic awareness
campaign to reach greater audience.

Perhaps we don't know what are the sentiments of
the tele-viewers, What they felt, what they think
about the event, and what message are we trying
to instill. Lets hope the efforts will not just end as
another patriotic mood that will falter in short
period of time.

Even more, fellow Flag Society compatriots we
need to exert more effort. As we hope to see one
day, that, not only the schools, but other sectors
as well, would see the patriotic beauty of what we
are trying to advocate.

We hope to see the Tri-color Flag, with three stars
and the sun , shining and raising the Filipino Spirit
especially in challenging times that continue to
shadow our society.

Lets hope it will bring some inspiration among the
populace who have seen and heard so much
confusion brought by divisiveness.

Lets not allow reality to conquer our hopes. We
can out shine the great mood of hopelessness. If
we only join all our hands.

There is strength behind the Flag, Just waiting to
be uncovered. If we could only stop by for a
moment and gaze upon it.

It can symbolize our renewed hopes to see a
united Filipinos. But perhaps we need first to raise
that spirit. We must see that spirit. It should
become visible. From one school to another, from
one home to another, from one Filipino to another
The flag can symolize that spirit. And as it spread
all over, it will become collective strength, a
bayanihan effort, the flag theory principle to help
the country to inspire our leaders and the populace
by working together.

The Flag cannot satisfy our hunger nor it can pay
our debts but it can raise our spirit. It can be a
spark or a start of something good for the country.
The oneness of Filipinos.

But the question will remain unanswered until that
statement of spirit is not hoisted.

" Wave that spirit, the new Filipino sprit, Wave the
Filipino Flag "

Salamat sa inyong lahat and God Bless
Flag Society Philippines***

Today marks Philippine Independence Day and the
1st founding Anniversary of our infant movement
Flag Society Philippines (2005-2006)

[omeng]

im back! musta na sir omeng,max,krakista and company? kumusta na business ninyo? hope you're doing fine

business is surviving. :D

how about you? started your own business already? hope so.

[omeng]

I need some bright enterprising minds on this question guys....

I am setting up a start-up IT business with a capitalization of around 400k PHP. I'm sort of confused with the suggestions made here in PEx. In terms of expenses paid (income tax for Sole Prop and Corp tax and double taxation for Corporation) where do you think it would be more advantageous? Most accountants I've spoken with are recommending that I register under a corporation for the same reason stated by csa-entrep. Any insights on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot.

If you are from US, Corp or LLC. Have some back read.

[tennisace]

bok, at bakit ka naman allergic? di ka sanay mag-french? :lol:


I'm really allergic to maple, my doctor says. Magaling ako mag-French.

French kiss, that is. hehehe

[baludoy]

how do you feel about similar stores, almost duplicate even, sprouting in your immediate vicinity? i know you can't do anything about it but be innovative and the like but how do you really feel about it?

[Trevi]

I'm really allergic to maple, my doctor says. Magaling ako mag-French.

French kiss, that is. hehehe

Most Americans break out in hives ,,when they hear the song Oh! Canada :rotflmao: you included :)

[Trevi]

It's Pasay, I think. Baka nga FTB pero nababa na naman ang tingin ko sa kapulisan.

Nagkabit kami ng malaking flag sa building ng office namin. Very big and it's cool. Btw, FSP founder want to meet you in August. Who knows, baka ikaw ang magtatag ng chapter sa canada. Ika nga "iwagayway mo ang bandila mo". :D

bok, at bakit ka naman allergic? di ka sanay mag-french? :lol:


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Seriously, I thought there were more Phil Flags thi years than the previous years (except in 1998)..or baka mas aware na lang ako ngayon. I saw quite a few cars bearing the flag - flashback nga kasi i remember when i was young, most of the cars had one during Independence day. :)

Kudos to you and your group Omeng. :) Ipagpatuloy niyo iyan.

[tennisace]

how do you feel about similar stores, almost duplicate even, sprouting in your immediate vicinity? i know you can't do anything about it but be innovative and the like but how do you really feel about it?
If it surprises you that something like this would happen, then you haven’t done enough for your business. It could mean that you’ve managed to put your business on the fast track to failure.

Competition is a given in doing business. Copycatting, imitations and/or counterfeiting is to be expected. These issues should have been dealt with in the planning stages of the business and the appropriate strategic protocols should have been established. If you find yourself scrambling when some copycat steps into your spotlight, you’ve got a serious problem. While no one can know what the future holds, you can always mitigate the negative issues that can and will occur, put your business in a position to absorb the effects of unforeseen circumstances, and fortify the advantages your business has over others. Situations like this magnify the importance of business planning.

If you feel sorry for the copycat and are confident that you will tear this copycat to shreds in a dogfight, then you have done your homework and have done right by your business.

[omeng]

Dear friend of Entrepreneur Philippines,

Thinking of getting a franchise?

If you are, join Entrepreneur Philippines' 55th Networking Night entitled "To Franchise or not to Franchise" on June 27, 2006, from 6 PM to 9 PM at Asian Institute of Management (AIM) Eugenio Lopez Foundation Bldg, 123 Paseo de Roxas, Makati City, and discover the pros and cons of franchising.

The Networking Night is a casual business get-together hosted by Entrepreneur Philippines Magazine and is open to both existing and aspiring entrepreneurs. This month, we have invited Philippine Franchise Association (PFA) president Robert Trota, Crystal Clear president Jose Soler, Association of Filipino Franchisers, Inc. (AFFI) Press Relations Officer and Binalot president Rommel Juan to provide tips as well as share their franchising experiences!

A copy of the June or July Entrepreneur magazine will serve as entrance. Food and drinks are on us. Please confirm your attendance at least 2 days before the event.

Should you wish to confirm your attendance, please send an email with subject: Networking Night to jaffa.joseph@summitmedia.com.ph or call us at 631-8971 loc.146.

Thank you and hope to see you there!

JAFFA JANUS JOSEPH
Sr. Marketing Associate

[baludoy]

tennisace: point taken my friend

[omeng]

Quote for today:

"Selling sanity is easy."

[SILENTMAX]

And im back :)
after exactly 1 month of no posting in pex i think im ok.
hi my name is max. i am a recovering pexaholic. and i promise to regulate my posts from now on.
ive been busy working at a call center in mall of asia that its been actualy quite easy to stay off pex when
your realy busy

one thing about being an employee though is that i find that i suck at it. to many restrictions. its hard for me to move without stepping on too many feet. ah well. im learning and i really need to learn fast. ive already thought about resigning but im thinking i should see what christmas is like in big a corporation.... hey it might be fun.

[SILENTMAX]

im currently working for a company who used to be the most admired company in america. and now currently doing 8th.

i intend to seek out what makes this company great.

[omeng]

Tsong, baka naghahanap ka lang ng mabibiktima? he he :D

[SILENTMAX]

nakupo boss out of the market na ako. :D ikaw nalang. the intentions were there when i started pero life has a funny way of turning out. ikaw nalang boss. rami ko pwede i reto sayo na cute.

cut and paste(from my postings at http://www.financemanila.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=321&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)
some kind words from someone who is so much better than me in living life:
(or how i need to put this here so i can finaly take it off my cellphone becouse my inbox is full) (my support system who is as much a "quotes" person as i am)

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in life if your are intelligent your are admired
if you are wealthy you are envied
if you are powerful you are feared
but if you have a good heart
you are loved.

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the important thing is not to be bitter over life's difficulties
learn to let go of the past & recognize that everyday won't be sunny,
& when you find yourself lost in darkness & despair, remember -its only in
the black of night that you can see the stars, & those stars will lead you back home

so dont be afraid to make mistakes, to stumble to fall.. Because most of the time
the greatest rewards come from doing things that scare you the most

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whatever happens to your day just relax and manage to make a smile
life is not a problem to be solved but a gift to be enjoyed
make everyday your best day.

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Lord when i lose hope becouse my plans have come to nothing
help me to remember that your love is always greater
than my disappointments & your plans for my life are always better than my dreams
amen

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in life there are times that you have to face tough decissions
either you make it or you break it.. but do remmember whater way you go
there are no wrong decisions in life its for you to make it right.


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if you dont go after what you want, youll never have it
if you dont ask the answere is alwayz no
if you dont step forward, your alwayz in the same place
take risks 4 life goes on
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the art of being happy lies in the power of finding happiness
in ordinary things. life does not forces us to be the best, it only asks
that we try

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there are some people who meet that somebody
that they can never stop loving, no matter how hard they try.
i wouldn't expect you to understand that, or even beleive it.
But trust me, there are some love that don't go away.
and mayber that makes them crazy, but we should all be lucky to end up with
that somebody who has a little of that insanity.
somebody who never lets go. somebody who cherishes you forever -ally mcbeal